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Speaker 1: Wow, a new year is upon us. Twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I have never felt so happy to have a

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Speaker 1: Have you noticed it has that new year's smell. It's

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Speaker 1: a drink smoke. Dang it, Oh, Tony Katz, that's America's.

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Speaker 2: Favorite amateur drinker, Fingers Maloy. It is the true end

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Speaker 2: of the year review. Now, we know a lot of

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Speaker 2: people do the review. The review there it is, see

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. I promise myself I'd speak better the

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Speaker 2: review types of programs. But they don't wait for the

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Speaker 2: end of the year. Not us here at hey, drink smoke.

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Speaker 2: We wait for the ball to be dropped before we

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Speaker 2: have the discussion with you. And we don't do a

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Speaker 2: as Fingers mLOY would say, who has the time?

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Speaker 1: That's so true.

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Speaker 2: We do a top three list, our top three bourbons

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Speaker 2: and our top three cigars. Now, a little bit of

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Speaker 2: housekeeping in this, we did grab a cigar to smoke.

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Speaker 1: This right here is from Oliva.

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Speaker 2: This is the Master Blends three right here at the Churchill.

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Speaker 2: It's a seven by fifty, which means it's seven inches long.

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Speaker 1: Always makes fingers who I.

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Speaker 2: Laugh, and the ring gauge is the fifty the diameter

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Speaker 2: with the laughter, sixty four ring gauge will be a

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Speaker 2: full one inch around. This is what we decided to

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Speaker 2: grab today. This is a Connecticut broad leaf wrapper. No,

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Speaker 2: it's Connecticut broadleaf. It's not Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a Connecticut broad leaf.

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Speaker 2: It's Connecticut broad leaf. Yeah, I knew, I wasn't. I

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Speaker 2: wasn't out of my mind. Nicaraguan and the binder in

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Speaker 2: the filler. I smoke these when I do my Monday

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Speaker 2: through Friday show. I smoke on the air and I

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Speaker 2: smoke these a lot, much bigger cigar when I first

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Speaker 2: smoked it than I ever thought it was gonna be,

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Speaker 2: but a.

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Speaker 1: Very very enjoyable smoke. Smokes well me.

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Speaker 2: I've been having a lot of problems with cigars lately,

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Speaker 2: and I'll get into that in the future. But wanted

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Speaker 2: bourbons that were highlighting the The bourbons that we chose

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Speaker 2: or what we choose from has nothing to do with

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Speaker 2: what got released this year. It has nothing to do

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Speaker 2: with what people say, are the top end bourbons?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no. First of all, it doesn't necessarily have

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Speaker 2: Whatever we reviewed fingers from y in the past year

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Speaker 2: is up for grabs. Anything we drank in the last

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Speaker 2: year can be your bourbon of the year, your drink

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Speaker 1: Crystal pepsi done.

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Speaker 2: We didn't have that though, couldn't find it, couldn't find

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Speaker 2: any zema either. It was very disappointing. Secondly, it doesn't

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Speaker 2: have to be a bourbon. We've done bourbon, We've done rye,

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Speaker 2: we've done tequila, we've done rum. It could be any

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Speaker 2: we've done beer. It we have done I believe we

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Speaker 2: did a can cocktail this year. It could be ah,

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Speaker 2: when you when you see our picks, it has to

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Speaker 2: you can go back and catch those episodes. Just get

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Speaker 2: the podcast Whereverdence you get your podcast, look for Eat, Drink, Smoke.

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Speaker 2: We're going to start with you fingers maloyna. Oh we

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Speaker 2: are well, We're gonna start with you just in the

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Speaker 2: basics when you're looking at a bourbon of the year,

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Speaker 2: and we'll talk more about this cigar right here, which

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Speaker 2: I've been smoking a little bit more than fingers before.

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Speaker 1: You got here.

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Speaker 2: When you are taking a look fingers at what you

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Speaker 2: you chose for a Bourbon of the year, What were

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Speaker 1: First of all, I don't know if you felt this

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Speaker 1: most difficult year to put together a list for me. Really, Yes,

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Speaker 2: Not only we didn't discuss this, we go into this

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Speaker 2: what your three were. We don't discuss it. We don't

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Speaker 1: But we don't go over it.

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Speaker 2: I so felt that way about bourbon, and I did

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Speaker 2: I had four bourbons or four drinks on my list

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Speaker 1: I had eleven cigars on my list. Hah. And it

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Speaker 2: It was difficult for me to come up with the

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Speaker 2: because I'm still not one hundred percent sure that I've

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Speaker 2: got it right. You'll have to tune in next week

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Speaker 2: to get our cigars of the year. This is the

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Speaker 1: But I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: It's not that anything was particularly bad. But if you

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Speaker 1: Not my palette.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, right, I don't really bag on on too

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Speaker 2: don't really bag on too many beverages. There can cocktails.

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Speaker 2: But it was, it was. It was hard, Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 2: It could be that we've had so many things that

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Speaker 2: you're right, compared to the cigars, there were very few

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Speaker 1: And I think part of that too is we made

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Speaker 1: been an odd year, and maybe that had an influence

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Speaker 1: I'm ready for twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: I have never in my life felt like, my gosh,

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Speaker 2: I can't wait for this to be over I have

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Speaker 1: Because I think it's a stupid way to feel. Years

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Speaker 2: It's not like, Okay, anything I did I dealt with

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Speaker 2: I don't have to deal with now, same crap. Right,

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Speaker 2: it's still the same stuff. I've got to deal with,

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Speaker 2: I was just I think what I was looking forward

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Speaker 2: we need to talk about Las Vegas. Okay, there are

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Speaker 2: two things just off the bat. First, had the fun

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Speaker 1: Week the Casino Royale four dollars ninety nine cent hot dog. No.

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Speaker 1: Vegas is so out of their holy damn minds. You're you're, you're.

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Speaker 2: that's you, Vegas. Oh my gosh, you are out of

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Speaker 2: an eating trip. I gambled ninety dollars wow the whole

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Speaker 1: I went for the food. I knew what I was doing.

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Speaker 2: Steve Whin and you better change some things because nope,

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Speaker 2: and when people get angry with you, you deserve it.

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Speaker 2: So we'll get into that. We will get into Fingers Malloise,

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Speaker 1: That's not easy. His top three bourbons.

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Speaker 2: So what makes a bourbon worthy of our top three?

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Speaker 2: That's a good question. And the answer after six years

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, for me, you know, people who

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Speaker 1: value guy and Tony is the money's money guy. That's right,

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Speaker 1: That is right. So I picked three bourbons that aren't

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Speaker 1: even lower than that. Number one for me value, especially

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Speaker 1: Holy cow, it was good. The suite on that the

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Speaker 2: Oh we did that too, nice. Yeah, drink coupons bothways.

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Speaker 2: That's right, TK. But in the big life, eat drink smoking,

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 2: That is fingers below a very very happy a new year,

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Speaker 1: Top three is enough.

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Speaker 2: Our top three bourbons, which is based on anything we

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Speaker 2: a canned cocktail.

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Speaker 1: Why are you so anti canned cocktails?

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Speaker 1: Fingers Wi has been going through his top three.

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Speaker 2: Number three on his list was the Kirkland Signature bottled

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Speaker 1: Oh? Okay, so this is my splurge bottle, Tony right,

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Speaker 1: this bottle is forty nine dollars and everything he picked

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Speaker 1: I'm the value guy on the show. I'm not claiming

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Speaker 2: Right, So then this is what you made your criteria. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I get it now.

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Speaker 1: This also was the sweetest of the top three. This

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Speaker 1: the two XO American Oak.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I did not I did not see that coming.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, hard working voice over the lot.

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Speaker 2: I will tell you that this year Fingers Withlin and

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Speaker 2: you know what, as we picked for me, that isn't

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Speaker 2: As I said, to create my bourbon list was very easy.

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Speaker 1: And you know what's hilarious about that? Because you know

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Speaker 1: be a guest? I swear once a month I will

437
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 1: get a pitch from someone who is like, you're a

438
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: fitness influencer. So you need to have Jack Lalane's ghost

439
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: on your show.

440
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 2: Doesn't know Jim Fix, but brings up a good Jack

441
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 2: Lalaane reference. Oh gosh, figures well, we do need to

442
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 2: move it into News of the week. We are smoking

443
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 2: from all of our This is the Master Blend's three.

444
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 2: We're doing the Churchill seven by fifty. And you do

445
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 2: want to get your notebooks out? What did you eat today?

446
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 2: What'd you drink today?

447
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: The weather?

448
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 2: It's been freezing in Indianapolis, Indiana where we are. But

449
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 2: you want to break that cigar into thirds, first, third, second, third, final, third, Right,

450
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 2: get your notebooks out, start fresh for twenty twenty six,

451
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 2: Get a notebook, write it down.

452
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: What'd you eat? Today, What do you drink today?

453
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 2: And then break the cigar into thirds first, third, second, third,

454
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 2: final third.

455
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: And what are the flavors that you get out of

456
00:23:58,359 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: the cigar.

457
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 2: This is a this stick is a much bigger, stronger

458
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 2: stick than I was expecting when I first got it. I

459
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 2: was I found a deal on them, and I got

460
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 2: I got a bundle, and I'm like, you know, compared

461
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 2: to the Olive A V or what I really like,

462
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 2: the V Millennio, which I love in my humidors filled

463
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 2: with those are a much smoother presentation. This is much

464
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 2: much bigger, much more bold in its presentation compared to those.

465
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's overwhelming, but there's a lot of

466
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 2: tobacco here. You got the Connecticut Broadleaf, which I love

467
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 2: happening with with a lot of strength and vigor. It

468
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 2: does smoke very very well. It's got really solid construction here.

469
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 2: But this is a big This is a bigger stick.

470
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 2: I think then people would think of if they're getting

471
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 2: in all of a V.

472
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: Certainly the gees and O's this is this is a

473
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: bigger stick than you. I think people realize, Yeah, I'm interested,

474
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, I know, we don't work.

475
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: We're crunched for time. But to me, there's a little

476
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: bit of cocoa, like a little bit of earthiness and

477
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: some oak. Are you getting any of that?

478
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 2: I I think that with with anything that's got that

479
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I got that.

480
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: Wood, but it's not you know, specifically oak that that

481
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 1: Connecticut broad leave right.

482
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 2: That bigness can come in a in a series of ways,

483
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 2: and I don't think, uh, feeling a cocoa or some

484
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 2: level of a dark chocolate is necessarily out of the realm.

485
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Speaker 1: I'm a little more.

486
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 2: Coffee on this, and I'm just I'm I'm very very

487
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,959
Speaker 2: tobacco on on on what's happening here. There's just a

488
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Speaker 2: lot of a lot of strength going in going in

489
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Speaker 2: to this stick, and so I'm taken more by the

490
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Speaker 2: by the strength than anything else.

491
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Speaker 1: I would also argue.

492
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Speaker 2: That in in that in that chocolate coffee conversation, there's

493
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: also a bit of a of a berry conversation that

494
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 2: that's taking place, right because you're talking about these the

495
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 2: coffee coming from you know, the bean and everything else,

496
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: and that is where I think a fair amount of

497
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 2: that that flavor is. It just has a it has

498
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 2: a strength that goes cheek to cheek and has a

499
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Speaker 2: bit of depth.

500
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Speaker 1: So are you pairing this right now with coffee or

501
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 1: die coke? Die coke on this one? Okay, yeah, yeah,

502
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: I thought would be a little too much for me.

503
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: I've got coffee and it's it's nice, and you know,

504
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: I also have a little bit of Mocha creamer in

505
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: my coffee today. So maybe that, oh, you're.

506
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 2: All screwed up? Good lord? Is this in your humid

507
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 2: or first seventeen dollars a stick? Yeah, okay, before you

508
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: say that, I want you to know that maybe your

509
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 2: local lounge is different.

510
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: I have found deals on this all over.

511
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Speaker 2: The place that would put you less than ten bucks,

512
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: and then I would have several in my humid or

513
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: for less than ten dollars a stick. There have been

514
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 2: real deals I've found on this. The Master Blends three,

515
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: we're doing the Churchill seven by fifty. I think it's

516
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Speaker 2: if you can find the deals. I mean it's seventeen dollars.

517
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 2: It's a little bit of a push the deals.

518
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: Absolutely, no question.

519
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 2: It is twenty twenty six, Happy New Year, everybody, and

520
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: we are doing our top three bourbons of the year.

521
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: It's eat, Drink, smoke.

522
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: I'm Tony Kats and that is America's favorite amateur drinker.

523
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: Fingers melloy, what say you? How did we get through

524
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: almost the entire first hour without wishing everyone a happy

525
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: New Year? I did?

526
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: Did you?

527
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: Many times? I don't think you did. I mentioned that

528
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: it was the new year. Let's go back to the

529
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: audio replay.

530
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Speaker 2: I wish to everybody a happy new Year. I did,

531
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Speaker 2: mek Tony Katz. I apologize for those of you just

532
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 2: tuning in. Tony wishes you a happy new Year. I

533
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,479
Speaker 2: hope it's wonderful. I hope it's fantastic. I hope you

534
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 2: drink good things this year. We're going over what we

535
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: drank last year? What are our top three bourbons? We

536
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 2: are reviewing, of course, or picking from what it is.

537
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: We reviewed.

538
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: What it is we had on the show, whether it

539
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 2: was a bourbon, raw, a rum, it's tequila, a canned cocktail,

540
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: whatever it was that we tried on the show was

541
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Speaker 2: eligible to be our bourbon or drink of the year.

542
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: And Fingers Maloy, wh brings us to your number one?

543
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: Your number three was the Kirkland bottled and Bond from

544
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: a Costco at twenty seven dollars a bottle. Your number

545
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 2: two was two XO A lovely presentation a bourbon at

546
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,479
Speaker 2: forty nine dollars at ninety nine cents. I believe so

547
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 2: you kept everything under fifty dollars. You did this purposefully.

548
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 2: You want to keep things under fifty dollars.

549
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: Which brings us to.

550
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Speaker 2: Your number one bourbon, the number one bourbon for Fingers

551
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 2: Maloi that he reviewed in twenty twenty five, right here

552
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: on Eat Drink Smoke, Get the podcast wherever you get

553
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: your podcasts, just look for Eat Drink Smoke. And it

554
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 2: turns out it's not even a bourbon. No, it's not shocking.

555
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: It's a rye. I know that would knew that would

556
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: make you happy. But Tony, this isn't the small rye.

557
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: Oh no, it's not a medium rye. It's not even

558
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: a large rye, Tony. It's a giant rye, a giant roe,

559
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: the Redwood Empire Emerald giant rye coming in at ninety proof.

560
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: Tony, you went with the Redwood Empire. Yes, okay, knock

561
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: me over. I did not see that coming up. And

562
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: here's first of all, the artwork on the label. Yeah,

563
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,479
Speaker 1: I dig it, but that's not the of a giant

564
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: picking up a tree. How about that? Yeah? Not ai.

565
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: That giant on the label looks like a young abe vagoda.

566
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: How's he doing? Huh? You don't want to ask, oh

567
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: boy or fish?

568
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: Uh?

569
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: Okay, So let's get into this. The mash Bill Tony

570
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: ninety five percent Rye five percent malt barley is aged

571
00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: four years. Like I said, it's ninety proof for me.

572
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: What really is interesting about this is, Okay, you get

573
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: the Rye spice, but there's a nice bit of pepper

574
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: to it as well. So this is a little bit

575
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: anti what I normally picked, because I've usually got a

576
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: nice sweet tooth, but this was very unique with that.

577
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: You had the ry spice, but you have that nice

578
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: bit of pepper as well. It also has some citrusy

579
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: notes and it's got a good bit of oak.

580
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: Thirty five dollars a bottle. I gotta tell you, I

581
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 2: am impressed. I am a Rye guy. I like Rye

582
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: more than than Bourbon. I have no rise on my

583
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: top three, and I.

584
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: Swear to you it didn't even come to mind. How's

585
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: That was a weird year for us for show, well

586
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: in general, but for the show definitely a weird year, man,

587
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: I totally agree.

588
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: We were discussing this earlier and the first time ever

589
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: where I'm like, Man, I'm glad that year and I

590
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: don't think that way. It's not the way I act.

591
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: And I can't figure out why for you? Why are

592
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: you glad this is all over? Even though nothing has changed.

593
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: Twenty six nothing has changed at all. As you know, Tony,

594
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: I have two passions in life. One live, laugh, love, right,

595
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: and then the other is monitoring social media outrage. That's it.

596
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: Those are his passions and the social media outrage this

597
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: year was off the charts for a number of reasons.

598
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: Whether it was the election of course, the terrible tragedy

599
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: with Charlie Kirk getting assassinated, you know, the economic difficulties

600
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: regarding inflation, all that stuff. It's it's not been a

601
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: good year on social media as opposed to previous years.

602
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: We have got.

603
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: World class fraud going on in Minnesota and by the way,

604
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: all across the country with how people took advantage of

605
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: COVID funds and other funding for children.

606
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: What's going on is massive to the tune of billions.

607
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: When to talk about the nationwide, and there are people

608
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: saying well, you shouldn't talk about that because that you're

609
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: just going after a group of people, and that's just bigoted.

610
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: There's no caring about the fraud because people have made

611
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: it political as.

612
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: Opposed to This affects everybody.

613
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: You're white, you're black, you're Asian, you're Hispanic, you're Jewish,

614
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 2: you're Christian, you're gay, you're straight, doesn't matter. The fraud

615
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 2: affects every single American. You should be opposed to fraud.

616
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 2: We can't even agree to be opposed to fraud.

617
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: Fingers molloy. Well, no, of course not, because everything is political.

618
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty five, everything is political. So you don't

619
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: see it getting better, of course not. It's not gonna

620
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: get worse until one day the asteroid hits and releaves

621
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: us of all of this. Oh, are you a believer

622
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: in the sweet medior of death? I look up to

623
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: the sky every day, wondering when it's going to happen.

624
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: Every night he's looking at the star. He says, you

625
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: you could follow us. Come on, come on, but this

626
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: Redwood Empire Emerald giant Rye giving him salvation in the madness.

627
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a little sample ring because all you're

628
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: ready for this. I've been ready for this all year.

629
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: There it is.

630
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: He's doing what's known as the Kentucky chew, moving the

631
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: juice around the palate. Get a feel for it. I

632
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 2: believe in the two SIPs methodology. The first SIPs really

633
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: set the taste buds. The second step to really get

634
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: an idea of the flavor's fingers miloin.

635
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: It's exactly what I said. It's got a little bit

636
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,959
Speaker 1: of citrus, it's got a nice bit of oak. That

637
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: rye spice is there, and then there's a nice bit

638
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: of pepper. Now it isn't a pepper bomb. It's not

639
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: gonna punch you in the face, but that pepper is there,

640
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: and as the rye spice dissipates on your palate, that

641
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: pepper lingers and actually maybe intensifies a little bit. It

642
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: doesn't play like ninety proof, so you think it plays bigger,

643
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: but no, I think it. If you said this is

644
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: eighty proof, I'd be like, yeah, of course, it's eighty

645
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: props mild he's milder. It's not that there's a huge difference,

646
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: this huge jump between ninety and eighty, but you know,

647
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: you start creeping up towards one hundred, people start thinking

648
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: to themselves, Wow, that's really gonna hit hard. It doesn't.

649
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: There's a nice little bit of sting on the tongue, gentle,

650
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: warmth in the chest, just really enjoyable. I can understand though,

651
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: why for you this would not be a go to

652
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: Rye because that Rye spices is there, but it isn't

653
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: the It's not the thing that really influences your palette.

654
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: And I know you're a huge Rye guy.

655
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: What's interesting is that when we're doing the show, like like,

656
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: there are times I'll be like wow, or I'll engage like, ah.

657
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: This is really something.

658
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: But that's at the moment, and men, I cast myself,

659
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 2: does it really stick with me? Is it something that

660
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 2: I remembered? And so for me, when I picked my

661
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: top three, there were things that I remembered. For what

662
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 2: reason did it stay in my brain other than there

663
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 2: was some other connection there that mattered?

664
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: This one did not, but it did for you.

665
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 2: Yes, the redwood m the giant emerald Rye is what

666
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: he chose. Fingers Filly, this is your bourbon.

667
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: Of the year. Yes, so thirty five dollars a bottle.

668
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: It may be difficult to get your hands on. But

669
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: if you see it and grab it, and definitely if

670
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: it's at your local lounge, you you have to give

671
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: it a try. How's it pairing with the Master Blends

672
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: three cigar? It it's okay, you know the I For me,

673
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: the rye and pepper may be overwhelming the cigar a

674
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: little bit, but it's a decent pairing. It's not a

675
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: great flavor medley with the coffee. No, the three together,

676
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: you really flavor that with a mocha. That's all we had.

677
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 1: You know what I've been doing lately, I've been putting

678
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: heavy whipping cream in my coffee.

679
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 2: So that is a great way to do coffee, but

680
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 2: it can really torture your stomach if you do too

681
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: much of it.

682
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: Speak for yourself, it's not pretty. I get seventy five

683
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: percent of my meals at a gas station. A little

684
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 1: heavy whipping cream is not going to destroy my stomach.

685
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: Do you like the depth that it gives the coffee? Yeah,

686
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: and then it also takes a little bit of the

687
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: bite away. To me, I'm really enjoying that, and I'm

688
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: not putting any sweetener in. So it's nice just to

689
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 1: be able to take a little bit of that heavy

690
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: whipping cream and put it in the coffee. No sweetener

691
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: at all, No, just a heavy whipping cream. I was

692
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: out of heavy whipping cream. See what with a mocha? Yeah,

693
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: that's gonna mess up with days buns.

694
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have got more bourbon to try. My top

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Speaker 2: a good year in review. It's a drink smoke Come

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Speaker 2: Tony Kasts. That is America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers ALOI

729
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Speaker 2: a very happy new year to you and to yours

730
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Speaker 2: and to your bourbon collection which hopefully you will drink

731
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 2: this very year, this very weak, this very day.

732
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Speaker 1: So we're going over it.

733
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: Fingers Moy already gave us his top three bourbons of

734
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: the year in his top three, well, one of them

735
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: wasn't even a bourbon. He started with the Kirkland bottled

736
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 2: in Bond that is from Costco. That bourbon there on

737
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: one hundred proof at twenty seven dollars a bottle, coming

738
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 2: in at number three. He then went to the two XO,

739
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: a really good pick by okay, ok that was a

740
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: very very nice pick, forty nine dollars and ninety nine

741
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: cents a bottle. And he in his number one pick

742
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: went with the Redemption Rye Redwood Empire, Redwood Empire, Redemption Rye.

743
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 2: He went with coming in at what was that thirty

744
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 2: five dollars a bottle? Thirty five bucks bottle. There his

745
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: only rules, he made them for himself. He wanted to

746
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 2: stay under fifty dollars a bottle. After that, there are

747
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 2: no rules except that we only are doing the things

748
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: that we reviewed on the show.

749
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: And we reviewed bourbons, and.

750
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: We reviewed rise and tequilas and RUMs and canned cocktails.

751
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: No caned cocktail major list. Every can cocktail makes my list.

752
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: I'm just not being specific what list it is.

753
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: It's funny because it's true. I've got my top three

754
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: to get to as well. Now, Fingers only decided some

755
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 2: of the things that he was looking at was specific

756
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 2: to the idea of price. I did not pay any

757
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: attention to price whatsoever. Just so happens, nothing is above

758
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: sixty dollars a bottle.

759
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: Really, just so happy. I did not look at price.

760
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: At all when I thought about my bourbons of the year.

761
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: Same thing is true with cigars. We're smoking, by the way,

762
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: from all of other Master Blend's three. We're doing the

763
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 2: Churchill seven by fifty, coming in at seventeen dollars seventeen

764
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: dollars and fifty cents a stick. But as I said,

765
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 2: you can find deals on these things. And I'm way

766
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: further I started smoking earlier than Fingers, way further ahead

767
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 2: than you.

768
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,959
Speaker 1: You're into the second third. I'm into the final third.

769
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: It is a.

770
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 2: Coffee tobacco forward, a kind of stick, much stronger than

771
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 2: you would get from certainly the Oli a V or

772
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 2: what I love the Millennial. I think the Millennial is

773
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 2: a spectacular smoke. I've got them all over the human

774
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 2: or this is an add on because I was able

775
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 2: to find a good deal on bundles, and.

776
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: I have not regretted it.

777
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: At all, but it is definitely a bigger stick Connecticut. Broadly,

778
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 2: there's a lot more strength that you're feeling in this cigar.

779
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 2: I'm pairing Die coke, he's got now a Die coke?

780
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 2: He did have coffee? And then does it pair with

781
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 2: our bourbon choices for the day, Maybe not, but our

782
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 2: bourbon choices are based on what we selected for the year.

783
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: The cigar is just wanted something nice to smoke with

784
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, great hand feel. If you're watching us

785
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: on YouTube right now, you can see I'm showing you

786
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: a nice even burn. The construction is fantastic, and like

787
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: you said, you can find it. Certain retailers will sell

788
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,479
Speaker 1: it between eight and ten dollars.

789
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. When I got this, I found it online for

790
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: under ten dollars a stick, and I said, yes, please,

791
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 2: let's give that.

792
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 1: And I never tried it. It was weird.

793
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: It It never fell into my my thinking because I

794
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: would be like the v or if I'm doing all

795
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: of it, or.

796
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: The Millennial, and it never fell into my thinking.

797
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: It is in retailers right here in Central Indiana where

798
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 2: we are, retailers all across the country, but I.

799
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: Have found the deals online.

800
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 2: I was like that's fantastic, and now it's in the

801
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: humane or and it's.

802
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: Been a joy when you do something like that, When

803
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: you buy a stick that you've never tried before, you

804
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: know absolutely nothing about, do you just like to buy

805
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: one or do you like to grab a five pack

806
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: that you see a lot of times so you can

807
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: try it more than one.

808
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 2: I have to buy more than one because because of

809
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: the notebook methodology, right, you're going to go back, you know,

810
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 2: and when you put things into your note book, what'd

811
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 2: you eat today, what'd you drink today?

812
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: And you're breaking down the cigar.

813
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: I'm always saying, go back, you go back a month later,

814
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 2: six months later, whatever it is, and smoke it again.

815
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: So I always believe in two. I don't normally buy

816
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: five packs. I so there is a really fascinating philosophy

817
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: about this. Where the five pack the packs are they

818
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 2: do sell well, right, this is something that people buy

819
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: asposed of buying a whole box. I find the five

820
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 2: pack packaging to be disgustingly ugly, mediocre and low class

821
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 2: to sell a fame, Oh my god, the whole thing,

822
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 2: It just it looks cheap as hell.

823
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: And so when I think about doing my own cigars.

824
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: We've talked about.

825
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 2: I really thought twenty twenty five was going to be

826
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 2: the year. It will be twenty twenty six of a

827
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 2: Tony Kat's cigar or something that's eat, drink, smoke indorsed.

828
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: I've been working on this, thinking about this, talking to

829
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 2: people about this. I just haven't found it yet. Really

830
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 2: where I want to be, who I want to do

831
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: this with. You know, I have a couple of desires,

832
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 2: and maybe some I won't be able to and some

833
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 2: I will. This question about the five pack comes up

834
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: all the time, and I'm like, the five pack is

835
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 2: it's it's it is.

836
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: A cheap packaging.

837
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: Then you take a look at some of the packaging

838
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: that's out there and it's like it's coming in a humidor.

839
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: I am not a believer in this.

840
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: The idea that hey, buy this, uh these cigars and

841
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: it comes in in a beautiful box that could be

842
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: a humid or. Personally, I'm not down for that. I

843
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: think that's overkill. But I do think that the presentation

844
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: matters incredibly. It's so much a part of the story.

845
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: The band matters. All these things do matter. They compliment,

846
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: It sets an expectation level and I find the five

847
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 2: pack to be just this. It looks like cheap crap.

848
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 2: It drives me crazy.

849
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: I will disagree with you slightly on the pack that

850
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: you can buy that comes in a humid or, simply

851
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: because that's what I bought for my first humid or.

852
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: It was like, oh, here's a sampler pack of cigars

853
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: and it comes in a humid or. Because I didn't

854
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 1: know at the time whether this was going to be

855
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: a lifestyle I was going to get into. And you know,

856
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: that's one thing we talk about all the time. When

857
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: you are spending a lot of money on these cigars,

858
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: you got to have a good place to store them.

859
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 1: And I didn't know if I wanted to jump right

860
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: in and buy an expensive humid or or, you know,

861
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: so it came with the box. I found it very

862
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 1: quickly that when a lot of times when you buy

863
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: a pack like that, the humid or isn't something that

864
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna want to keep very long.

865
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: So now I can get into a whole humid or

866
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: conversation and how I want. Of the things I've been

867
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 2: working on in twenty twenty five is a new company

868
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 2: starting with somebody we know, the owner of Premiere Arms

869
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: and PA Jewelers here in Central Indiana, who I do

870
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 2: a lot of work with on the radio side, starting

871
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 2: a company called Oak and Iron Supply, very much based

872
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 2: on EDC every day carry items and things like that,

873
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: and we have brought in a whole line from Zycard.

874
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 2: Now Zycar is not a sponsor of this show, and

875
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: you can use other cutters and other lighters and other humidors,

876
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: but I've brought in some of those things to have

877
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: in the shop, including the Calavera line, which is you know,

878
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: Dios de las Mortas kind of look with the skulls

879
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: and very colorful, and that humid or with that ashtray

880
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: and that cutter which you can get as a pack.

881
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 2: We'll be offering it on the show in the next

882
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. And I chose that humidor for itstal

883
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 2: for it's looking that it would be a little bit

884
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: of an art piece, a little bit of a great

885
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: first humidor. And then you can, of course add cigars

886
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 2: to it as opposed to and it does come with

887
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: some cigars, but as opposed to when you go out

888
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 2: and you buy a box and all of a sudden

889
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: you realize the box price is so much more expensive

890
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 2: because it's also a humid or what you're talking about

891
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: was something purposeful. What other people do is engage it

892
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: as well. This is the packaging and therefore it's commanding

893
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 2: a higher price. That's the part that I have issue with.

894
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: But I still think about a cigar. But right now

895
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: we're thinking about bourbon. My top three bourbons of the year,

896
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 2: and they're not all bourbons. That is that. That is

897
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 2: my tease. Ladies and gentlemen, We will get into that.

898
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 2: Make sure you have subscribed to the podcast. Wherever it

899
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 2: is you get your podcast Eating Smoke YouTube, look for

900
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 2: Eatring Smoke and be a subscriber there. We have a

901
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 2: lot to get to. So how does one determine the

902
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: best bourbons of the year. Well, first of all, you

903
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 2: have to be a professional like myself and Fingers Maloy.

904
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: Yes, I determine if I wait, I called us professionals,

905
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: that's funny. See Drink Smoke.

906
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. That is America's favorite amateur drinker.

907
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 1: Fingers Maloy. We're not professionals. We never have been.

908
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: We've never made the claim. It's a love of the art,

909
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 2: it's a love of the juice. It's wanting to try

910
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 2: things and sharing with you at that price, whether it's

911
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 2: in our liquor cabinet or not. We'll leave grading systems

912
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 2: and that to others, and the pretentiousness to others. And

913
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 2: there's a lot of pretentiousness out there. It's gotten really

914
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 2: gross and really ridiculous. We are trying things, we're sharing

915
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: it with you. You agree, you disagree. I hope you

916
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 2: come back because we do appreciate you being here quite

917
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: a bit. We are doing our top three bourbons fingers one.

918
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 2: I did his I'm about to get into mind. If

919
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 2: you missed any part of it, get the podcast wherever

920
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: it is you get your podcasts, just look for Eat, Drink,

921
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: Smoke and subscribe. So when I came up with my list,

922
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: and as we've discussed, I didn't have a big list.

923
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: I went through, Okay, here's what we drank over the

924
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: last year.

925
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 2: I had four names. I had four names on my

926
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: list and that was it. And I'll tell you that

927
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 2: in the in the number four position for me, one

928
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: of the things that I that I came across was.

929
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 1: That I was only kind of.

930
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 2: Half torn on one of them.

931
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: Only on one of them.

932
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: It was either to go with the bullet bottled and bonded,

933
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 2: which I found surprisingly good, or to go with this

934
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 2: as my number three. I went with this. This is

935
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: Espie House. This was the George seventeen ninety four, the

936
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 2: most expensive on my list, at sixty dollars and ninety

937
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: nine cents a bottle. Look at you, sixty dollars and

938
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: ninety nine cents. I thought this was a very very surprising,

939
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: surprising piece. I had never heard of it. I had

940
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: never been around it. I wasn't around anybody who had

941
00:48:55,680 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 2: heard of it. It's a very pretty nose, pretty nose.

942
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 2: It had a lot of the sweetness, the caramel, bit,

943
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: a butterscotch, some honey.

944
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: It was. It was that it was.

945
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 2: Surprising, I think, is what took me on. This right here,

946
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 2: this is the SB House. Not the SB Awards. That's

947
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 2: that's ESPN. This right here the SB House. Let me

948
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: see if I can throw that into your camera.

949
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: Look at that.

950
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 2: I I found it to be just so pleasant, just easy.

951
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 2: It kept in my head. There are bottles that we

952
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 2: try here, and Fingers will take some with him.

953
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 1: We end up giving it away.

954
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 2: This state, this state, and I've always kind of take

955
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 2: kept an eye on it and taken a look at it,

956
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: realized that we.

957
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: Drank it then, but we haven't had it since.

958
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: And you're gonna have your number three. I'm gonna have

959
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: my number three, and then then I'll have my number one. Right,

960
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 2: that's just a little sip er here. Excuse me, Oh

961
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 2: look at you.

962
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: He's he didn't he didn't even bother what the whole

963
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: Kentucky chew? Nah? Just I went right in, I went

964
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 1: right in? Right? There? Is it tech? A little sweeter

965
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: than you normally go for?

966
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, first things first, fifty one percent alcohol by

967
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,959
Speaker 2: volume or one hundred and two proof, Thank you, thank

968
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: you very much. I don't have a mash bill here.

969
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 2: That's that's that's undisclosed. Yes, a little bit sweeter, but

970
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 2: beautifully beautifully presented, especially again surprising. Yes, sixty dollars is

971
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 2: where a lot of people are like, Okay, that's a

972
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: kind of cutoff for me. I'm not so sure if

973
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 2: I want to spend that money. I'm telling you, A

974
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 2: refinement a a beautiful, beautiful bit of sweet. There's a

975
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 2: touch of heat that exists a center chest, but it's

976
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 2: it's so pleasant, easy as neat, which I think is

977
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 2: one of the things that really moves me is it.

978
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: Does it work neat?

979
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: That's where I like to be, not on the cube,

980
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 2: not on the chip, neat, And if it does, that's

981
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 2: where I tend to go. So s B House, this

982
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 2: is the George seventeen ninety four. They also have a

983
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: weeded bourbon. This is this is I just think is

984
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 2: just just a beautifully beautifully dunebourb.

985
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: I feel like one of the themes this year. And

986
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: it may just be recency biased with me, but I

987
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: feel like I've noticed with a lot of the things

988
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: that we reviewed this year where you would drink something

989
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: neat and you're kind of like, ah, that's all right,

990
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: and then it took you going to putting it on

991
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: a rock before you're like, oh, okay.

992
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 2: There were a couple that really did shine when they

993
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 2: were on when they were on a cube, that is

994
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 2: absolutely true, more than maybe in any year we had that.

995
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, that's that's worthwhile.

996
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 2: But when it goes, when it comes for me to

997
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 2: say where is my money really going?

998
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: What really moves me, it has to be on the knee.

999
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 2: The neat has to work as a presentation piece before

1000
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: anything else happens.

1001
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: So I'm the main I remember that being sweet as

1002
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: to me if I remember it, and then I also

1003
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: I thought there was also some like a little bit

1004
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: of dark fruit to it as well. If again. But

1005
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: here here's my question to you, coach. The juice matters.

1006
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: But when you know you're putting together a bourbon collection

1007
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: that's going to be on display, how much does presentation matter?

1008
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: Do you? That's a really cool bottle.

1009
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a beautiful bottle, and the way it's done again,

1010
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 2: I think presentation matters greatly. I think presentation matters a ton.

1011
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: I think this is a beautiful gift bottle to beautiful

1012
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 2: bottle to have everything about it, I just I just

1013
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 2: totally dug it. The connection to George Washing of course,

1014
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: and they have a ride. They have something called the

1015
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 2: Midnight which is in this black bott which super cool.

1016
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: See no, I dug it. So sp House is my

1017
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: number three and very very very happy with them. Let

1018
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 2: me get to a quick news story here and I'll

1019
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 2: get to number two and number one coming up. You

1020
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: have got Lows purchasing a competitor. It's not home depot.

1021
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: That would take a lot of money. There's a group

1022
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 2: called Foundation Building materials that is being purchased.

1023
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: For eight point eight billion dollars.

1024
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 2: Now, some people would take a look at this and say, wait,

1025
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 2: are people still really doing any level of home renovations.

1026
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 2: They've got three hundred and seventy locations in the US

1027
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: and in Canada, even if you've never.

1028
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: Heard of them.

1029
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 2: And I would argue that this is a great example

1030
00:53:55,000 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 2: of as the economics of the country have changed and

1031
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 2: people are done in a lot of ways with their

1032
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 2: home renovation projects because they did that during during COVID.

1033
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: This is just an opportunity thing.

1034
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: There was an opportunity to further increase their market share.

1035
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 2: There was an opportunity for cash to really talk as

1036
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 2: the people are dealing with a tougher and tougher industry

1037
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 2: because well, you did so many home renovations and so

1038
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 2: many's own projects during COVID that they are they don't

1039
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 2: exists as much as they do, They don't exist as

1040
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 2: much right now as they did then. So it's a

1041
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 2: perfect opportunity. I really thought we'd see more of this

1042
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. I think we're gonna see a

1043
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 2: bunch of this in twenty twenty six.

1044
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: What's interesting is it appears as though this company it

1045
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: stocks more of the you know, like the construction type

1046
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: stuff like the dry wall, hardware, commercial doors, insulation, not necessarily,

1047
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 1: oh I want to go pick out a light fixture

1048
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: some of the stuff that Lows. So it seems like

1049
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: it's more of that type of of product than what

1050
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: Lowe's focuses on.

1051
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be helpful to them in supply chains

1052
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 2: and things like that. But the point is this isn't

1053
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 2: as much of a sign of Oh, the economy is bad,

1054
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: and the economy has plenty of issues as much of Okay,

1055
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: there was an opportunity.

1056
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 1: That's the way I take this.

1057
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 2: By, and let's see if it makes Lows more competitive.

1058
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 2: Eat drinks, smoking in your cigar and bourbon foody extravaganza.

1059
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz, that's fingers, melloway, Happy New Year to you.

1060
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: I grabbed a robusto version. What's the matter? I just

1061
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: quoted Eddie Money off air and I don't know why. Well,

1062
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: if people knew you at all, it's kind of like

1063
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: a normal thing. When Henry Lee Summer was just waiting

1064
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: on deck and I went with Eddie Money.

1065
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 2: I already finished my master Blend's three at Churchill.

1066
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: So I grabbed the robusto version. Did you really I

1067
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: didn't even notice you do that? Wow? You're welcome? Got

1068
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: what I do? Did you have them both sitting next?

1069
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: Did you go? Wow? I was so focused on having

1070
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: a really good radio segment here I completely missed you

1071
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 1: leave the table. So we're doing our top three bourbons

1072
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: of the year.

1073
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 2: Fingers Molloy did his, starting with number three, the Kirkland

1074
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 2: Signature Bottled and Bonded bourbon.

1075
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: He went number two.

1076
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 2: He went over to the two xo American Whiskey, which

1077
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 2: again really nice pick, and he ended it with what

1078
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 2: was it called the It's the Redwood Empire Emerald Giant Rode. Yeah,

1079
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: I remember the Redwood the Redwood Empire, which was a

1080
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:45,240
Speaker 2: pick from our digital expert Sarah Smith. So congratulations, Sarah.

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00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 2: You picked a number one right there. That was his

1082
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 2: number one pick. My number three was the Spi House

1083
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 2: the George seventeen ninety four my number two pick. Because

1084
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: if we do this every year, we come up with

1085
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 2: our top three. Some people do a top five, our

1086
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 2: top ten, but they're willing to do way more work

1087
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 2: than we are. And it's based on what it is.

1088
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 2: We drank here and we did bourbons, RUMs, tequilas, ries,

1089
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 2: canned cocktails. We could pick from any of those things.

1090
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 2: There really is no rule other than that. Fingers molloy

1091
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 2: decided to keep himself under fifty dollars a bottle that

1092
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 2: was for him the thing that mattered for me. I

1093
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 2: paid no attention to price whatsoever. It didn't matter to me.

1094
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 2: I didn't think about it nothing. I said, what do

1095
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 2: I remember and actually went back and listened to the episode.

1096
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 2: June twenty twenty five, we happened to be at blend Barsigar.

1097
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,919
Speaker 2: We were happened to be there blenbarsigar dot com, where

1098
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 2: we've done a ton of our shows before we built

1099
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 2: the studios here I have had. I am not an

1100
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 2: Irish whisky guy. I've never been an Irish whisky guy.

1101
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 2: There was a bitterer there that doesn't work for me.

1102
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if others would call it a bitterer,

1103
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 2: but to me, that's why I call it. But there

1104
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 2: have been some that have just transcended. There's a different

1105
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 2: flavor happening. I have felt really good things about Redbreast,

1106
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 2: and I felt really good things about Middleton and on

1107
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 2: this day we did Keeper's Heart Irish and American whiskey

1108
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 2: coming in at one hundred and ten proof applause from

1109
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 2: Fingers malloy. And what I remember was this was a

1110
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 2: first of all, it didn't taste like Irish whiskey. This

1111
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 2: was a crazy luscious presentation. And we went back and

1112
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 2: listened to the episode where I took the first sip

1113
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 2: and I was.

1114
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: Like, smooth.

1115
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 2: It just it knocked me over, that spice that existed,

1116
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 2: that sting all throughout the tongue. But it was just

1117
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 2: such a it was so surprisingly not Irish whiskey that

1118
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 2: it elevated the experience for me from the guys who

1119
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 2: had been doing the work at Jamison's. This beautiful combination

1120
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 2: of these two things that was just bringing something. And

1121
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 2: the word I kept using was luscious. How it filled

1122
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 2: the cheek, How it it, you know, enveloped the entire

1123
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 2: mouthfeel there. I love that stuff more and more, I'm

1124
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 2: loving that stuff. So the Keeper's Heart, which I don't

1125
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 2: even have a bottle here, I don't know where, and

1126
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 2: maybe because we had it there and I didn't have

1127
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 2: a bottle here, but I thought I had a bottle here.

1128
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 2: The Keeper's Heart Irish and American one hundred and ten

1129
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 2: proof whiskey is my number two bourbon of the year.

1130
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 2: It's Irish whiskey. So there's only there's only one bourbon

1131
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 2: on my list. I'm telling you that's a little teas

1132
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 2: there's only one bourbon on my list for bourbons of

1133
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 2: the year. This was a nice kind of okay. I

1134
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 2: wasn't expecting it. How great is this a bourbon coming

1135
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 2: in at forty four dollars in ninety nine cents?

1136
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: Oh jeez, there you go. It was under fifty. So

1137
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: I remember, you know, and you you, and I listened

1138
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: to the review again when when you mentioned this, the

1139
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: first thing I said was, if I remember correctly, it

1140
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: didn't hit you like a normal Irish whiskey, a typical

1141
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: Irish whiskey. And I remember that to be correct. I

1142
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: wish I liked Irish whiskey more. I wish I liked

1143
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: Scotch more. Those just aren't things that I moved by.

1144
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: But I remember drinking that and enjoying it, thinking at

1145
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: the time, this doesn't taste like a typical Irish whiskey

1146
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: to me, and I do I also stay away from it.

1147
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 2: I think this was a bartender or Shortenaer Brian who

1148
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 2: recommended this one to us, and it was just it

1149
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 2: was it was great. It was a great, great feeling,

1150
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 2: and there was on the nose an ethanol hit for sure,

1151
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 2: one hundred and ten proof, but it was it was

1152
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 2: a nice I.

1153
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: Thought about it.

1154
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 2: I've thought about it since, and so that's why it's

1155
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 2: on my list at number two. The Keeper's Heart Irish

1156
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 2: and American one hundred and ten proof.

1157
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: So this is two in a row that are over

1158
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: one hundred proof. Yeah. Yeah.

1159
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 2: The the SB House was one hundred and two hundred

1160
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 2: and two proof.

1161
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,439
Speaker 1: So and I'm not saying that you shy away from

1162
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: over one hundred proof, but it surprises me a little

1163
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: bit that we are now playing with two over one

1164
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: hundred per I'm sure the third will be like one

1165
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: hundred and forty.

1166
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 2: I am an enigma. I try my best figures. The

1167
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 2: way we have news of the week to do we do.

1168
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 2: We have a series of things that we need to

1169
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 2: get to, and we were talking about the economy a

1170
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 2: little bit.

1171
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: You found this story at USA today.

1172
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 2: About retirees not taking required distributions, which is really really weird. Vanguard,

1173
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 2: which of course is a massive, massive fund. By the way,

1174
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 2: we don't give recommendations. You invest wherever it is your

1175
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 2: investment professional tells you to invest. Was looking at required

1176
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 2: minimum distributions right four one k's I r ra's right.

1177
01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 2: And how people weren't taking these distributions? Yeah, and I

1178
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 2: don't know how that's possible. And twenty four percent of

1179
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 2: people took a withdrawal that was too low to meet

1180
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 2: the requirement.

1181
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: I found myself very, very confused by this story. I

1182
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of people, unfortunately, you know, want

1183
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: to do stuff on their own and just go ahead

1184
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 1: and take withdrawals out without actually seeing what the minimum

1185
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: that they're supposed to take out happens. And then a

1186
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: lot of times too, I believe in the story it

1187
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: says people who have a really really small IRA, like

1188
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: a really small balance, right, A lot of times just

1189
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: well like ah, who needs to take your required minimum

1190
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: withdraw out? While you still do it doesn't matter what

1191
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: the balance is.

1192
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 2: It seems so if somebody had something as simple as

1193
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 2: five thousand dollars and they're not taking out what they

1194
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 2: need to take out is required, they're getting penalized for

1195
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 2: it and they're not you know, It's one thing when

1196
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 2: you've got nineteen subscription services and you realize, like after

1197
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 2: eight months you're still paying for that gym membership or

1198
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 2: after eight years, Right, that's one thing. This is your investments,

1199
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 2: and that's the part, and maybe that's the part that

1200
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 2: kind of struck me, as wait, how is that possible?

1201
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: How are you not and are you.

1202
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 2: Managed through some level of organization a td A schwab

1203
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 2: And I'm just mentioning names.

1204
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm not a cute making any accusations and they're not

1205
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: telling you. I don't I don't even know how any

1206
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: of this is possible. So USA Today has a story

1207
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: that we're referring to. It says most investors who missed

1208
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: their mandatory withdrawal had balances under five thousand dollars in

1209
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: their account. I wonder because I've noticed this, you know,

1210
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: with fingers Moist Senior moving in a lot of these

1211
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: companies move away from snail mail and want you to

1212
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: go to an strictly online notification email or whatever. And

1213
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,919
Speaker 1: maybe maybe some are just forgetting because they aren't getting

1214
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: snail mail.

1215
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 2: Because well could no, not because they're not getting because

1216
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 2: they're not getting snail mail because they don't know how.

1217
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: To look at the other stuff. Yeah, it's not.

1218
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 2: Well, that's a problem that that that is a serious

1219
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 2: issues that.

1220
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: Kind of kind of blew my mind.

1221
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 2: I think the other part of this is I'm taking

1222
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 2: a look at this economy.

1223
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: I know the issues that are out there. I'm surprised

1224
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: people aren't taking out more.

1225
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 2: Much more because they're they're they're not keeping up with

1226
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,439
Speaker 2: the the inflation, they're not keeping up with the new

1227
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 2: property taxes, the new car insurance to help everybody.

1228
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 1: I know, the health insurance went through, not for me.

1229
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: I don't know why health insurance went.

1230
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 2: Through the freaking roof. People are out of their heads

1231
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 2: about this. So I'm surprised that's something more not being

1232
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 2: taken out. So this story kind of blew my mind.

1233
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 1: Paranoia about making sure you have enough money to get

1234
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: through life.

1235
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 2: So they're not taking it out because they might need

1236
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 2: it for the quote unquote you need.

1237
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: That's even worse.

1238
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 2: It's time to get to number one, my top bourbon of.

1239
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 1: The year and fingers molloy, it's not even a bourbon.

1240
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: Oh well, I assume then it's a rye see drink smoke,

1241
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: come Tony Katz.

1242
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 2: That is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers MALOI, it's also

1243
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 2: not a rye. What it is shocking, but it is true.

1244
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 2: We've been doing our top bourbons of the year. Fingers

1245
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 2: Muloi went first, starting as he did with the Kirkland

1246
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 2: bottled in bond in third place. Second place went to

1247
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 2: two XO American Whiskey, and he ends it with the

1248
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 2: Redwood What is it? The Redwood Redemption, the Redwood rye,

1249
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 2: the you can't do the name.

1250
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 1: You keep going with the redemption. You're throwing that in there.

1251
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 1: It's the Redwood Empire, Emerald Giant Rye. It's not redemption. No,

1252
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 1: there's no redemption. Why am I saying redemption? There's never

1253
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 1: any redemption?

1254
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 2: Ah, there it is. He was a fan of it.

1255
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 2: That his pick of the year. If you missed anything,

1256
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 2: go back and subscribe to the podcast Eating Smoke and.

1257
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: You'll get all of this.

1258
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 2: My top three is a unique list, he said, Fingers did,

1259
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 2: I'm not doing anything over fifty dollars, and he came

1260
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 2: up with his list. I said, I'm not even paying

1261
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 2: attention to that. What moved me? What is it that

1262
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 2: I remember? And there were three things that I really

1263
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 2: remembered for really. My honorable mention was the Bullet bottled

1264
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 2: in bond. Number three was the Espie the George, which

1265
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 2: SB House bourbon I thought was just absolutely terrific, and

1266
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 2: that is the.

1267
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: Only bourbon on my list which is super weird.

1268
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 2: Number two was the Keeper's Heart, which is the Irish

1269
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 2: American whiskey one hundred and ten proof. Really something else,

1270
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 2: even with that big sting, it was something else. But

1271
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 2: number one since we first tried it, and I'm not

1272
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 2: sure when that was, just a few months ago. I

1273
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 2: think it was early fall. I think it was early fall.

1274
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 2: I have not stopped thinking about it. I've been places

1275
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 2: where I purchased it for other people. I am surprised

1276
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 2: I still have the bottle. That bottle is right here.

1277
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 2: My Number one this year is the Baku twelve year Rum.

1278
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely positively, indubiably terrific. It came across a little thin

1279
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 2: at the first, and I do think that that holds true.

1280
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 1: But what excuse me, I'm gonna take a sip, right, Oh,

1281
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 1: I look at you taking SIPs? You are you doing

1282
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: the Memphis punch? You're doing the Kentucky chew?

1283
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 2: Oh good gosh, what comes through in that sweetness, that creaminess.

1284
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 2: Uh you know I at the time, I said, you

1285
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 2: know it, it ends a little bit bitter, but that

1286
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 2: could be the the the dark chocolate that that's that's

1287
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 2: going on there.

1288
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: The the people over there at picou.

1289
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 2: Rum dot com b A c o O talk about

1290
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 2: it as a tres leche's cake. That's a really nice

1291
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 2: description of this, of this creaminess and of this this

1292
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 2: this this caramelized kind of kind of feel. It is

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01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 2: truly sensational. Now, what's really weird is that my picks

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01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 2: have much more sweetness.

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Speaker 1: Yeah than oak.

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01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 2: I love oak, except these picks tell me that maybe

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01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 2: my palate has changed and what I like has changed.

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01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 2: The smoothness here, the no sting, the richness that that

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01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 2: that enveloping of the tongue, that feel in the in

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Speaker 2: the in the lower cheek, the the finish that lingers

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01:08:56,360 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 2: and lingers with this, this this color full sweet and

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01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 2: this this it's it's not like a traditional rum. You're

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01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 2: not getting you're not getting a Baccardi kind of feel

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01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 2: out of it. Just this this will pair with anything

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01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 2: pairs with the cigar that we're doing. The Master Blend's

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01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,719
Speaker 2: three would pair with almost any cigar in my humidor

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01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 2: would go with dessert, go with after dinner, go with

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01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 2: before dinner, afternoons it I'm telling you. The Baku Rum

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01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 2: the twelve year has been a revelation. And they do

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01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 2: in eight years. Well, I think they do a five year. Also,

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01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 2: this bottle is thirty five dollars in ninety nineteen. Oh,

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01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 2: look at you. I cannot say enough about what I

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01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 2: felt about it then and how I continue.

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Speaker 1: To drink it now. Now you are correct. We reviewed

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01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: this the last weekend in September of twenty twenty five.

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01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: Shame on me for when I go to the liquor store,

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01:09:56,360 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: I just walk to the bourbon section. Don't know why

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01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 1: I don't buy more of this because I absolutely love it.

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01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: It's do you want some? No, I still have plenty

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01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 1: of my rye right here that I'm very happy with.

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01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 2: I found the Bakou room is a must. And at

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Speaker 2: thirty five ninety nine I.

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01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 1: Should have told people this was your Christmas gift.

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01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 2: Any party you're going to any afternow year's probably here.

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01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 1: It is boom. No.

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01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 2: No, there are no regrets, none, not a single regret.

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Speaker 1: Going on to a very successful twenty twenty six, the

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01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 1: Baku twelve year for me, the Redwood Empire, Emerald Giant Rye.

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01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 1: I have to pose this question to you. I'm not

1330
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 1: proposing a change to what we do to the show

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01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 1: to what I'm about to ask you to you drink

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01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 1: Smoke Nation to our Bourbons of the Year. Do you

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01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: think people get annoyed that we call it Bourbons of

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01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 1: the Year when a vast majority of the drinks a

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01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 1: lot of years are not bourbon. No, no one's listening.

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01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm not. Uh. We we call it what we call it.

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01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about the show as the it is.

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01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 1: It is.

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01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 2: It is radio wise of the largest bourbon and cigar

1340
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 2: radio review program in the country.

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01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 1: That's what we are. We're on more radio stations than

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01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 1: anybody there. I think there are some.

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01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 2: Podcasts that are bigger than us, but in terms of

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01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 2: radio there's there's absolutely no one bigger. And we call

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01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 2: it what we call it, and I think that I mean,

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01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 2: if if you think we should change and instead of

1347
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 2: being your cigar bourbon foody extravaganza, we've done more food

1348
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 2: this year than ever before.

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01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 1: We're getting much better at that. I'm just talking about

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01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: the list. Should we should we be the cigar beverage,

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01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: foody nov I'm not talking about the show. We can

1352
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 1: we can expand it out. Do you want to change it?

1353
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 1: We can call it the Joe Rogan podcast. That's not taken.

1354
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 1: You want to call it the Adam Carolla Show. What

1355
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 1: about the Runner podcast? What was the name of What

1356
01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 1: was the name that runner from Last Hour? It's not

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01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 1: Jimmy Smith's.

1358
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 2: Jimmy Smith's was an actor from La Law and West

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01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:11,879
Speaker 2: Wing and he of course endorsed the Dewey Potty pot.

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01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 1: Is how you clean out your sinus?

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Speaker 2: Uh, the listen, we we now, I think we're fine.

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01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 1: It was called Bourbons of the Year.

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01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 2: Those are my three and I'm telling you the bakoup

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01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 2: is fantastic. I'm sorry I didn't find this earlier in

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01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,759
Speaker 2: my life. It's just terrific. Now if you missed anything,

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01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 2: it is there at Eat Ring Smoke. We get the

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Speaker 2: podcast Whereverdence you get your podcasts. Also, U two things. First,

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Speaker 2: Defiance Beef dot com. That's where you get your steaks.

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Speaker 2: You know how good the baku rum is with a

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Speaker 2: rabbi from Defiance Beef. Absolutely sensational.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: It is right here in Indiana directly to your table.

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Speaker 2: Everything cuts your specifications, frozen, individually packed and then sent

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Speaker 2: to you. The strips, the ribbis, the tenderloins, the stew meat,

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Speaker 2: the skirt steaks, the brisket. It's all there. Order a

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Speaker 2: quarter coow, halfcow, fol cow, whatever it is. We've been

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Speaker 2: having a ball with these things. That's Curnoiin's earlier in

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Speaker 2: the week. Got some ground beef to frosting right now,

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Speaker 2: Eat drink smoke. That's number one, number two. What do

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Speaker 2: we have geared up for twenty twenty six, Well, first

1390
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 2: next week we've got our cigars of the year. We

1391
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 2: wait until after the year is over to do our

1392
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 2: top three bourbons and our top three cigars. We will

1393
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 2: be doing Cigars of the Year next week. We still

1394
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,640
Speaker 2: have more drinks to do. We've got more tequilas to

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01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 2: add and other things. We have been working well on

1396
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 2: the food and we're gonna be building that out.

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Speaker 1: There's there.

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Speaker 2: The only thing we didn't get to this year, Fingers,

1399
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 2: that we want to was the book. We did not

1400
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 2: get to Let's Go Grill. I want that done, and

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01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 2: I also want to bring about the cookbook. We've been

1402
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 2: talking about this. We've been sharing recipes, talking about things.

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01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 2: They're things that we've tried from others and we want

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01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 2: to bring to people. So that's on tap for twenty

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01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 2: twenty six, but mostly just a quick thank you. It

1406
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,799
Speaker 2: was an incredible year for us, incredible year for growth

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01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 2: and for We were trying things with the videos and

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01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 2: we're seeing great success there.

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Speaker 1: So YouTube dot com slash Eat Drink Smoke. Check that out.

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Speaker 2: The new website you should be seeing in about a

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Speaker 2: week for Eat Drink Smoke. You just go to Eatdrink

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Speaker 2: smokeshow dot com. Nothing about that changes for you. Looking

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Speaker 2: forward to that, and thank you Eat Drink Smoke Nation

1414
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 2: for all the support. Fingers, boy Tony Kasts eat, drink, smoke,

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Speaker 2: Happy New Year, everybody,