1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: In the picturesque town of Colorado Springs, Colorado. A loving 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: mother of two who dedicated her life to caring for 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: others as a healthcare worker has gone missing. Unable to 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: locate her, her mother takes action by mobilizing the police 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: to initiate a desperate search for her. As the investigation unfolds, 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: detectives uncover unexpected twists that lead to surprising outcomes, revealing 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: truths that no one anticipated. So we asked a question, 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: what happens when love becomes fatal? This is a Fatal 9 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: Attraction podcast with Over the Edge. 10 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: March eleventh, twenty twenty. It's a chilly morning in Colorado Springs, Colorado, 11 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: the Centennial state's second largest city. 12 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: Colorado Springs is one of the most beautiful cities. 13 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 4: In the country. It's one of the top places in 14 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 4: the United States to live. 15 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 5: It is home to Pike's Peak, home to a lot 16 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 5: of great hiking picturesque fused. 17 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: However, on this Wednesday, one Colorado Springs resident is too 18 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: anxious to take in the natural beauty around her. 19 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 5: Carlene Blower was worried because it had been three days 20 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 5: since she'd talked to her twenty eight year old daughter, 21 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 5: Elizabeth Kramer. She has not returned any of her calls. 22 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 6: Initially, it wasn't too concerning because Elizabeth was grown and 23 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 6: she was living her life right. 24 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: But now she's learned that no one else has heard 25 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: from Elizabeth either. 26 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 7: I haven't talked to her in a couple of days, 27 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 7: and that's not like her to not call me. 28 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 5: Carlen heard from her daughter's boyfriend, George Little, and he 29 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 5: said that he had not seen Elizabeth in several days ago. 30 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 5: She then called Elizabeth's ex, the father of her two kids, 31 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 5: davy On Rogers. Davy app says that he has not 32 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 5: seen or heard from Lizzie since Sunday night as well. 33 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 8: Okay, okay, I'm laving. 34 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: When Carlen contacts the healthcare center where Elizabeth works. 35 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 9: She hasn't worked for several shifts. 36 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: Her fear turns to panic. 37 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 5: She had not been to her shifts, she had not 38 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 5: called in. They have not heard anything from her in 39 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 5: about three days. 40 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 8: This is unlike Elizabeth. 41 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: Now convinced that something terrible has happened to her daughter, 42 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: Carlene decides to call the Colorado Springs Police Department to 43 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: ask for help. 44 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 10: Color the Springs to consire how may help you. Yes, 45 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 10: all am calling because I have concerned about my daughter 46 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 10: and I don't know how to do a world fare 47 00:02:58,880 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 10: for her. 48 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 6: It's every mother's worst fear for your child to be missing, 49 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 6: to not know what's going on. 50 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: Elizabeth Kramer was Lizzie to her family and friends, and 51 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: to everyone else. She was the life of the party. 52 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 6: Lizzie was a very joyful person and she knew no stranger. 53 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: She is a ball of fun. 54 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 5: So how's sporting? 55 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 11: That's going great? 56 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 3: And making lots of new friends. 57 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: The kind of person who savored the simple life. Lizzie 58 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: was happy to spend her days and join the company 59 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: of close friends and family. 60 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 6: At the end of the day, what matter most of 61 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 6: her was spending time with her loved ones. 62 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 5: She is very fun loving and that's very endearing for 63 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 5: all of her friends and family who just loved being 64 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 5: around her. 65 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: She brought the same infection enthusiasm to her romantic relationships, 66 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: especially when she met a man named Davion Rogers. 67 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 5: In twenty sixteen. Elizabeth and Davion came together and what 68 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 5: you could really call a whirlwind romance. 69 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: It was an instant attraction. 70 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 8: I knew at the moment I saw you standing up. 71 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 3: What did you know? She's young? He's young. 72 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 2: He got a little swag, or to him, got a 73 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: bit shame if I introduced myself. 74 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 12: Every woman was a confident man, she bites. They staw 75 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 12: this relationship, stop it. 76 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 6: It was fun, it was exciting, it was energetic. 77 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 2: And before long it was serious. 78 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 6: Within three years, they had already had two children and 79 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 6: they were talking about getting married. 80 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: But just as the relationship started to look like it 81 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 2: would last, Lizzie and Davion began to drift apart. 82 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 4: Their relationship hit a rock. It began to grow stagnant. 83 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: They've lost connection, lost communication. Eventually they decided it was 84 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: time to move on. 85 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 5: They ended up separating. 86 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 4: Lizzie understood that it was either stay here and be stagnant, 87 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 4: or move on and grow and find that one true love. 88 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 2: And it didn't take her long to find mister Wright. 89 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 6: After Elizabeth and dave An broke up, she started a 90 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 6: new job at a healthcare company. 91 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 5: In the course of her new job, she met George 92 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 5: Little Good Grida, Thanks. 93 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 2: So do you. George was several years younger than Elizabeth, 94 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: but he had the same enthusiastic personality. 95 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 12: She's had the opportunity to see him every day, get 96 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 12: to know him. She see that he's ambitious, he's driven. 97 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 5: They would talk and they would laugh and have these 98 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 5: great interactions at work, and that eventually spilled over into 99 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 5: their personal lives afterwork. 100 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 8: What are you doing later today? 101 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: Nothing right now? 102 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 6: Lizzie and George's relationship progressed pretty quickly. At the end 103 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 6: of that year, they had decided to move in together. 104 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: The decision to live together came with its own problems. 105 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 6: At that time, George was living in a small apartment. 106 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 5: There wasn't enough room for Lizzie and her children to 107 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 5: move in with him. 108 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 6: Was very heartbreaking for her to have to be separated 109 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 6: from them. 110 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 2: But by early twenty twenty, George and Elizabeth found a 111 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 2: new apartment. 112 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 5: Their new place was big enough for them and her kids. 113 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 3: She was in a position where she and Dimanca have 114 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 3: split custody of the children. 115 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 6: She was feeling very hopeful for the future for her, 116 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 6: George and the kids. 117 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: But now Elizabeth's mother is telling the police that no 118 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: one has heard from her daughter in three days. 119 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 10: Sort of father concerned for her, and her boyfriend's concerned 120 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 10: for her, and I'm future for her and she. 121 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: Has a special reason to be worried. 122 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 5: According to her mother, Elizabeth had been suffering from emotional 123 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 5: problems ever since giving birth to her last child. 124 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 7: After childbirth, the levels of estrogen and progesterone and women 125 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 7: severely drop, which can lead to depression. 126 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 10: I'm concerned that her toe their close partentspression has haunt her. 127 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 5: That makes Carlina is concerned that her daughter may have 128 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 5: hurt herself. 129 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 10: She has been something educating with supposedly drug and alcohol. 130 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: No pay won't think that a child will commit. 131 00:07:58,600 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 3: Sus of. 132 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: Detectives are investigating what occurred that early morning and what 133 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: truly happened to the beloved mother. Stay tuned for more 134 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: of the Fatal Attraction podcast. 135 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: The life of Colorado Springs healthcare worker and mother of 136 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: two Elizabeth Kramer had become a daily struggle. 137 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 5: After Lizzie had her last child. She had been suffering 138 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,239 Speaker 5: with a severe bout postpartum depression. 139 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 8: She was falling into a deep hole. 140 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: But in the fall of twenty nineteen, it appeared to 141 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: her family that she was finally making improvements. 142 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 11: She had gotten a job at a healthcare facility and 143 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 11: she was really enjoying what she did. 144 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 5: She started a new relationship with a guy from work 145 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 5: named George Little who seemed to really adore. 146 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: Her look great, and she'd started working on a custody 147 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: arrangement with her ex and father of her kids, davy 148 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:12,359 Speaker 2: On Rogers. 149 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 5: That is an incredible feeling, feeling like everything is working out. 150 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 2: But now her mother has called the Colorado Springs Police 151 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: to report her daughter missing. 152 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: Carlen hadn't her from Elizabeth in three days, and that 153 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 3: gave her a cass for alarm. 154 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 6: Her anxiety was through the roof. 155 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: Carlene tells the police that she's afraid her daughter's disappearance 156 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 2: might be connected to her postpartum depression. 157 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 5: Her mother is concerned that she might have done something 158 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 5: to hurt herself. Do you know where she is right now? 159 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 10: I don't. I have no idea, Okay, So we can 160 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 10: air information to officers in the area so they can 161 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 10: start looking for her. 162 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 2: After the call, Elizabeth's mother heads to the police station 163 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: to give detectives more information. 164 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 8: You want to take a seat here, So when was 165 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 8: the last time you saw your daughter? It was on Thursday. 166 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 9: We had lunch like a mother's daughter. 167 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 5: Spade that Lizzie seemed normal and she was telling her 168 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 5: mom how excited she was to see her children again 169 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 5: on Sunday for dinner. 170 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 11: They spoke again on Sunday prior to Elizabeth picking up 171 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 11: the boys. 172 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: But a couple of days later, Carleen got a disturbing call. 173 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 5: George, Lizzie's current boyfriend, calls Carleen and tells her that 174 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 5: he's concerned about her whereabouts. 175 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 9: He said the last time that he saw her was 176 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 9: on Sunday, just before. 177 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 8: She went to pick up her kids from their father. 178 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 9: Yes, Davianna Rodgers. 179 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 5: Carlen, of course, immediately calls Davey on. 180 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 3: Davion let her know that, yes, Lizzie had come by 181 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 3: the house. She picked up the children around five pm. 182 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: She dropped them back off around seven pm, and she 183 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 3: left and he hadn't heard from her either. 184 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: Even more concerning is that Caroleene believes her daughter has 185 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,119 Speaker 2: been self medicating for her depression. 186 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 5: Her mom thought that maybe she was in such a 187 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 5: severe state of postpartum depression that maybe she was indulging 188 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 5: in prescription medication. 189 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 9: What makes you think that, because when I talked to 190 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 9: Davian he told me some things. 191 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 4: Devion told Carleen that Lizzie stole prescription painkillers from him. 192 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 3: He said she was stealing pain medication from him and 193 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 3: disappearing for days on in. 194 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 9: I'm just so afraid. I'm afraid that she may have 195 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 9: done something to herself. 196 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: Defective share Carlene's concern. 197 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 5: The police are convinced that their sufficient cause for worry, 198 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 5: so they issue a BOLO for Elizabeth's car and they 199 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 5: start the process of obtaining warrants to look into her 200 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,599 Speaker 5: bank account records or social media records. 201 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 2: Well waiting on a response to the warrants, investigators started 202 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 2: conducting interviews with those closest to Elizabeth. 203 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 5: They want to know everybody that she talked to in 204 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 5: the days leading up to her disappearance. 205 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 2: They start with the last person known to have seen her, 206 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: her ex boyfriend, Daveyon Rogers. 207 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 8: When was the last time you saw Elizabeth? She came 208 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 8: over here on Sunday. 209 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 4: Devion told them that Lizzie came over around five pm. 210 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 11: She picked up the kids and took them out to dinner, 211 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 11: then she dropped them back off at around seven o'clock. 212 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 8: After that, he'd never seen her again. 213 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: Davion admits that things have been tense between him and 214 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: his ex lately. 215 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 5: Davione says that he has been fighting Lizzie for custody 216 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 5: of their two children. 217 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 4: Why don't you want her to have custody because I 218 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 4: don't trust that she'll take care of the kids. 219 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 5: He says that she has been irresponsible. She's disappeared for 220 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 5: days without contacting him or the children. 221 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:29,359 Speaker 2: Davion also confirms Carlene's suspicions that Elizabeth was self medicating 222 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 2: with drugs and alcohol. 223 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 5: He says that she has been abusing drugs and she 224 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 5: has also stolen pain medication from him. 225 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 8: I have to ask you this, Did you have anything 226 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 8: to do with Elizabeth disappearing? 227 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 10: No, Sir. 228 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 5: Daviyon said that even though he didn't want her to 229 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 5: have custody, she was still the mother of his children. 230 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 4: Although they had their issues, he was super worried about her. 231 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: But before more investigators leave, Davion brings up something else 232 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: that he says has been troubling him. 233 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 4: Did you ask George You mean George Little Yeah, the 234 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 4: god she's been living with me. 235 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 8: He really thinks there's something deeper going on. 236 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 3: He believes that her new boyfriend, George, has something to 237 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 3: do with her disappearance. 238 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: Brace yourself for more of this tragic story. This is 239 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: the Fatal Attraction podcast. Hey true crime listeners, we'd like 240 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: to introduce you to something new from TV one on 241 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: the Urban one podcast network. Explore the mesmerizing tales of 242 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: women turned supervillains arrested for crimes all in the name 243 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: of love. What links would you go to for love? 244 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: Let's listen to TV one's for My Man podcast. 245 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 13: Twenty year old Deborah Brown breaks out of her shell 246 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 13: when she meets a smooth talking charmer on the streets 247 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 13: of Waukegan, Illinois. 248 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: She was hoping to be loved and willing to make 249 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 3: such a huge sacrifice for that. 250 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 13: But when her man's twisted perversion send him running from police, 251 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 13: Deborah willingly tags along and helps bring his monstrous fantasies 252 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 13: to life. 253 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 3: The horror and the trail of terror that they left 254 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 3: behind left a clouds over communities. 255 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 5: With Fulton and Deborah were as evil as any couple 256 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 5: could be. 257 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: See what lengths some women would go for love. 258 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: Police and Colorado Springs have learned that missing twenty eight 259 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: years Elizabeth Kramer was struggling with postpartum depression and drug use. 260 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 3: Postpartum depression is something that so many women suffer from 261 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 3: after having a baby and puts them in a very dark, 262 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 3: negative space that is dangerous. 263 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: But now her ex boyfriend Davion Rogers has told investigators 264 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: that he doesn't believe in overdose or suicide is behind 265 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 2: her disappearance. 266 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 5: Damian does not believe that Lizzie hurt herself. 267 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 4: He thinks that the new boyfriend, George, has something to 268 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 4: do with Lizzie going missing. 269 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 8: Why do you think George might be unwoked because the 270 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 8: way she was when she came over on Sunday, But. 271 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,119 Speaker 6: On this particular day, her behavior was just very strange 272 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 6: and very out of character. 273 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 5: Normally, when Lizzie comes to pick up the kids, Davion 274 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 5: brings them down to the car, He loads them in 275 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 5: and everything is fine. 276 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: But on Sunday she took the kids and their backpacks 277 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: down to the car herself. 278 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 6: He believes that it's because George. 279 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 9: Was with her. 280 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 8: George was in the car and Lizzie was trying to 281 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 8: keep them apart. 282 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 6: He said she seemed like she was afraid of George. 283 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: If Davion is correct, it contradicts what George told Elizabeth's mother. 284 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 5: George says the last time he saw Lizzie was when 285 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 5: she left the apartment to go pick up her kids 286 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 5: for dinner. 287 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 4: That means George was actually the last person that saw 288 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 4: Lizzie alive. 289 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: After talking to Davion, investigators asked George Little to come 290 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 2: in for an interview. 291 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 3: He tells police officers that he will do anything to 292 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 3: help find Lizzie. 293 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 8: All I say it is between her and elizabeths good, 294 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 8: really good. 295 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 6: He tells them that things were going great with him 296 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 6: and Lizzie, that they were happy. 297 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 8: Did you go with her to get the kids? 298 00:17:58,440 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 2: No? 299 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 8: I never go with her. Do you sure about that? 300 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 11: Davion seemed pretty convinced that George was in the car 301 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 11: while Elizabeth was picking up the kids, so detectives just 302 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 11: came right out and asked him whether or not he 303 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 11: was involved. 304 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 8: Did you have anything to do with her disappearance? Man, 305 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 8: I'm trying to help find her. Why would you ask 306 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 8: me that. 307 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 6: He stated that he loved her a lot and that 308 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 6: he would never harm her. 309 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: But he says he knows someone who could. 310 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 5: While Davion was pointing the finger at George, George actually 311 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 5: says they need to be looking at Davion. 312 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 8: That guy's scary. What do you mean? 313 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 6: He said the Davion was very jealous of him, to 314 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 6: the point that he would actually threaten him. 315 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 2: George also claims that Devion's stories about Elizabeth's drug use 316 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: are outright lies. 317 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 5: George tells the police that the most she has ever 318 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 5: done is drink and made be some marijuana, which is 319 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 5: legal in Colorado, but she has never done anything harder 320 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 5: than that. 321 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 3: He lets the police know that Davian had been feeding 322 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 3: Lizzie's mom different stories about her drug use and disappearances. 323 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 8: I know one thing for sure. If something happened to her, 324 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 8: it wasn't suicide. 325 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 4: George wasn't concerned that Lizzie did something to herself. 326 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 8: He was concerned that Dabion did something to her. Thank 327 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 8: you for. 328 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: Investigators have now heard two different stories from Elizabeth's boyfriend 329 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 2: and her ex, but they don't know which one is true. 330 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 3: Detectives subpoenaed both of their Internet and phone records to 331 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 3: see what was really going on between them and Lizzie. 332 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: However, they're still waiting for the results. When they get 333 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: their first big break in the. 334 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 5: Case, detectives were notified that a nine to one to 335 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 5: one call came in earlier that morning reporting a suspicious 336 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 5: abandoned vehicle. 337 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 10: Fine not going to help him. Who if a vehicle 338 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 10: might be sold, is it your vehicles on the streets. 339 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: Will be good Batch's as soon as possible. 340 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 2: When police ran the place, they discovered that it's Elizabeth SUV. 341 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 11: Patrol officers contacted the detectives who were working the case, 342 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 11: and they came out to search the car and the 343 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 11: surrounding areas. 344 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 3: They did not find Lizzy inside of or around the car. However, 345 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 3: they did find red stains in the car. 346 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 5: They noticed something that looks like blood smear on the 347 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 5: car seats, which is not a good sign in any 348 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 5: missing person's case. 349 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 2: Detectives canvas the neighborhood hoping someone saw the person who 350 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 2: abandoned the vehicle. 351 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 6: No one has seen anything or heard anything. 352 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 5: That's not looking good. At this point, there's not a 353 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 5: whole lot to go on in terms of where. 354 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 12: She is. 355 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 2: Until a few days later when there's another break in 356 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 2: the case. It starts with two teenagers in the mountains 357 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 2: outside Colorado Springs. 358 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 7: They were hiking. They founded this fifty gallon bin. 359 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: It was a. 360 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 6: Plastic tulle that had been duct taped closed. 361 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 2: It immediately peaks their curiosities. 362 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 4: The teenagers get really curious and they cut the duct 363 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 4: tape off. 364 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 7: When they opened this bind, they find a body there. 365 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 6: This missing person's case turned into a homicide investigation. 366 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: Stay with us for more of the Fatal Attraction podcast. 367 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: Two weeks after twenty eight year old mother of two, 368 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 2: Elizabeth Kramer disappeared, hikers outside Colorado Springs have stumbled across 369 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 2: a dead body in the woods. 370 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 7: I can't even fathom what they were experiencing in that moment. 371 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 7: I'm sure of fear and confusion, like what is happening 372 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 7: right now? 373 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 3: And what do I do about it? 374 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 2: Detectives are quickly called to the scene. To make a 375 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 2: positive identification. 376 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 11: They would need to run her prints to confirm, but 377 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 11: the detectives were fairly certain that the woman in the 378 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,719 Speaker 11: toat was Elizabeth Kramer. 379 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 2: Detectives also had a theory for how she ended up there. 380 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 5: There was a road that ran atop a cliff overlooking 381 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 5: the spot where the toat was found. It looks like 382 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 5: it was pushed off the edge. 383 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 3: It's clear this is a dumping ground. This is not 384 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 3: where the actual murder occurred, but it's not clear how 385 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 3: she died. 386 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 4: There was really no trauma that they can see that 387 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 4: was done to the body. 388 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 5: It's not until they get to the autopsy that they're 389 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 5: able to determine a cause of death. 390 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 2: The post mortem exam reveals a phenomenon known as petikia 391 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 2: burst blood capillaries. 392 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 5: The medical examiner was able to determine that there were 393 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 5: tiny blood vessels in Elizabeth's eyes that were broken. 394 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 6: It's a clear sign that Elizabeth had been strangled to death. 395 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: The amount of passion and rage that it takes to 396 00:23:54,920 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 3: strangle somebody to death is crazy. 397 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 2: But who had that kind of rage against Elizabeth Kramer. 398 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 5: The obvious suspects were the men in her life, her 399 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 5: boyfriend George, or her ex Davion, but it was also 400 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 5: possible that Elizabeth was involved with someone her family or 401 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 5: her boyfriend didn't know about. 402 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: Looking for answers, investigators interview people at the healthcare company 403 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,719 Speaker 2: where she and George both worked. 404 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 3: When police speak with Lizzie's coworkers, they discuss how devastated 405 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 3: and heartbroken they are to have lost her. 406 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 2: As far as her coworkers are concerned, one suspect can 407 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 2: be ruled out. 408 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 5: Lizzie's co workers said that she was extremely happy with George. 409 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 3: There's no way George was evolved. 410 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: But that's not what they say about Davion. 411 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 8: Davion was a bad guy. 412 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 3: Lizzie had confided in themsel several times that not only 413 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 3: was Davion a cheater, but he was also very violent 414 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 3: toward her. 415 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 2: Elizabeth wasn't just dealing with postpartum depression. 416 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 8: She would come into work crying all the time because 417 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 8: of the things he did to her. 418 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 12: Lizzie said that Davion had been beating her. 419 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: Her coworkers say they've seen the evidence for themselves. 420 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 6: They tell a story of her coming to work with bruses. 421 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 3: She's been putting up with him for. 422 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 2: A long time. 423 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 3: We tried to help her, but she said she had 424 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 3: to stay with Lizzie tried to stay and endure the 425 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 3: abuse for the sake of her children. She really didn't 426 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 3: have anywhere to go or await out, so she thought 427 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 3: that if she just took it, things would get better. 428 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: But a horrific incident in December changed everything. 429 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 11: Around Christmas, Lizzie was getting ready to take a shower 430 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 11: when Davion stormed in. 431 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 5: He grabbed her by her hair and tried to bend 432 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 5: her over the sink to rape her. 433 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: After that, there was no going back for Lizzie. That 434 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 2: was the final straw. 435 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 6: She just realized that this was not going to get 436 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,959 Speaker 6: better for her or her children, and she had to 437 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 6: make a change for their safety. 438 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,239 Speaker 3: She and George had already been forging a relationship, so 439 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 3: she went to George to ask if she could move 440 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 3: in with him. 441 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 2: Elizabeth felt she'd finally managed to escape. 442 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 5: She got out of that toxic relationship and began a 443 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 5: new relationship with George Little. Her life began picking up 444 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 5: and looking brighter at that point. 445 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 2: But Davion began using the children to try to control her. 446 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 4: You wouldn't let her see them. He said that he 447 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 4: was going to get full custy. 448 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 3: And he was fighting her attempt to get joint custody. 449 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 2: And eventually she confided in her coworkers that Daviane was 450 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: stalking her. 451 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 3: She will say, he always watches me, he sees me, 452 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 3: he knows what I'm doing, And this made her coworkers 453 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 3: very alarmed. 454 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 2: But most alarming of all is what Elizabeth told her 455 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 2: boss two weeks before she disappeared. 456 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,959 Speaker 3: She came into work and she was crying. 457 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 5: She wasn't sure what to do about it. 458 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:32,479 Speaker 9: He said he's gonna koche. 459 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: Brace yourself for more of this tragic story. This is 460 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: the Fatal Attraction podcast. 461 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 2: Police in Colorado Springs suspect that Elizabeth Kramer was strangled 462 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 2: by someone close to her, and after talking to her coworkers, 463 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 2: they believe they've identified the monster in her life, the 464 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: father of her children, Davion Rogers. 465 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 5: Lizzie, about two weeks before she went missing, came into 466 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 5: her supervisor's office and told her that Davion had threatened 467 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 5: to kill her. 468 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 3: Elizabeth's boss told her to stay away, to keep her 469 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 3: distance from Davion, but that was hard. 470 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 2: Because Davion had her children. 471 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 3: She just couldn't stay away from the kids, and eventually 472 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 3: she went back so that she could see her children. 473 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 2: Detective suspect that's what Davion was counting on. 474 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 7: The worst abuse most women will experience is when they're 475 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 7: leaving the relationship, because at that point that partner that's 476 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 7: doing the abuse, they no longer feel. 477 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 2: Like they're in control and rather than give up control. 478 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 2: Detectives believe Davion had killed her, but they need evidence 479 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: to prove it. 480 00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 11: They have these incriminating statements from George and her coworkers 481 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 11: about Davion, but nothing really substantial to back up those. 482 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 2: Statements until they received the records they'd requested from Davy 483 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 2: on cell phone. 484 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 3: Once the subpoenas were returned and police had the phone 485 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 3: wreckers and the social media records, police found out that 486 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 3: Davion was still very much obsessed with Lizzie. He had 487 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 3: directly threatened her, not only on text but via social media. 488 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: But even more shocking is what the investigators find and 489 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: its Internet search history. 490 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 4: They found searches or how to get away with murder, 491 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 4: how to get rid of a bloodstain from a carpet. 492 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 5: He had been looking up things about black magic and 493 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 5: how to use a voodoo doll to kill somebody, how 494 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 5: to make strangulation look like an accident. 495 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 2: It wasn't just out of morbid curiosity, it was training. 496 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 3: Davion had watched several videos on how to do a 497 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 3: rear naked chokehold, a martial arts maneuver that was consistent 498 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 3: with the way in which Lizzie was murdered. 499 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 2: It's enough to convince detectives that Davione killed Elizabeth, but 500 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 2: they need more evidence before they can make an arrest. 501 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 5: They already have a lot to go on, but what 502 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 5: is really the nail in the coffin is the surveillance video. 503 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 2: Across the street from Davion's apartment is a public high school, 504 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: and when detectives contact the staff, they learned that there's 505 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 2: a security camera pointed right at their suspects front door. 506 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 5: They're able to see that. On Sunday evening, Lizzie did 507 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 5: go over to Davion's apartment to pick up the children 508 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 5: for dinner. 509 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 3: The footage from the surveillance cameras showed Elizabeth pulling up 510 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 3: and parking, getting out of her car at four point 511 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 3: thirty three pm. 512 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 5: She enters the apartment, but they do not see her 513 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 5: come back out. 514 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 2: Instead, they see Davyon. 515 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 12: He come out of the apartment, no sighs or her. 516 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 12: He gets in the car, moves it about four houses down. 517 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 2: After moving the car, he goes back inside the apartment. 518 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 3: Sometime goes by and another black man shows up. 519 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 5: The other man brought a large item to the door, 520 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 5: waited outside, and was then seen helping davy On carry 521 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 5: it away from the apartment. 522 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 2: It looks like the ben that Elizabeth's body was found in. 523 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 3: At no point while police were watching the surveillance footage. 524 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 3: Did they ever see Lizzie leave the apartment? 525 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 2: It's the proof the investigators have been looking for. 526 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 6: The police finally have enough evidence to charge davy On. 527 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 2: On June seventeenth, twenty twenty, police take Davion into custody 528 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 2: at his apartment. They immediately conduct an interview, hoping to 529 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 2: close the case with a confession. 530 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 5: They give him an opportunity to come clean and tell 531 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 5: the truth. Davion denies that he had anything to do 532 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 5: with Lizzie's murder. 533 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 4: Davion was sticking to his story. You know, he didn't 534 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 4: change up anything. 535 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 2: So detectives decide it's time to lay all their cards 536 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,479 Speaker 2: on the table. 537 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 8: We can just bring you down here for no reason. Okay, 538 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 8: we got some new information in the case. 539 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 5: They tell Davion that they have the video, they have 540 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 5: the Internet search as they have this evidence against him. 541 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,239 Speaker 12: When they let him know, hey, you can't get out 542 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 12: it is he cracked. 543 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 3: He finally says he is ready to tell the truth. 544 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 8: She came over to pick up the kids, like I said, 545 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 8: but then something happened. 546 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 3: When Lizzie got there. He informed Lizzie that he did 547 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 3: not trust her and did not want her to have 548 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 3: the children. 549 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 7: They got into a heated argument about custody. 550 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 5: They're getting into a shouting match. 551 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 2: And it quickly turned into more than just shouting. 552 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 7: He told her he was taking the kids and he 553 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 7: was moving to Memphis. 554 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 3: He said, it's set Lizzie off, and she lunged at him. 555 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 8: She came at me like she was trying to grab me. 556 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 8: What'd you do? 557 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 10: I like. 558 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 3: Pushed her off me. 559 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 2: But according to Devion, that wasn't the end of it. 560 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 3: Davion said that once he pushed Lizzie off of him, 561 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 3: she grabbed a knife. She turned around and told him 562 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 3: that if he was gonna take the children, that she 563 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 3: was gonna kill all of them. 564 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 2: Davion says he had to protect himself. 565 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 8: I didn't have a choice. I couldn't let her cut me. 566 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 8: That's when he put her in the joke on. 567 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 3: He really intended to just restrain her. 568 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 7: He didn't even realize he was choking her so hard. 569 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 3: He did not mean to kill her. 570 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: Stay with us for more of the Fatal Attraction podcast. 571 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 2: Armed with security camera video and their suspects incriminating internet 572 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 2: search history, Colorado Springs police have arrested Davion Rogers. For 573 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 2: the murder of his ex girlfriend Elizabeth Kramer, but now 574 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 2: under questioning, Davion has told them they have it all wrong. 575 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 5: Davion insists that he never intended to hurt Lizzie. 576 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 8: Debione said that Lizzie attacked him. I didn't have a choice. 577 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 8: I couldn't let her cut me. 578 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 5: In an attempt to defend himself, he puts her in 579 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 5: a chokehold and didn't realize how hard he was squeezing. 580 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 2: Until he realized she was dead. 581 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 3: Davion told the detectives that he panicked. His first thought 582 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 3: was to go outside and move the car. 583 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 10: It's crazy because all I could think was maybe if 584 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 10: nobody knew she was there. 585 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 8: Would be okay. 586 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 2: But he also had to get rid of the body. 587 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 8: How did you do me? A favorite? 588 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 3: Mandavian called one of his friends and had him go 589 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 3: buy a fifty gallon tote and bring it to the house. 590 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 8: Did you tell him why you needed such a big toat? 591 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 4: No, No, sir, He had no idea about Lizzie being dead. 592 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 3: Davianne had him stay outside and wait. While his friend 593 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 3: was outside, he wrapped up Lizzie's body and stuffed it 594 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 3: in the toe. 595 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 7: All this time the kids were in the back room. 596 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 2: After putting her body in the toad, Davion asked his 597 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 2: friend to help him carry it to her car. 598 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 8: You don't want to know it's here, don't even ask. 599 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 6: He insists that his friend had no idea and that 600 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 6: he was just helping him. 601 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 2: When the toad was loaded into the car, Davion drove 602 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 2: into the mountains outside Colorado Springs. 603 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 11: Davion had his friends stay behind with the children while 604 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 11: he went to dispose of the body. 605 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 3: Davion's point of going into the mountains was looking for 606 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 3: a place to dispose of the body. 607 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 2: Davion says that he drove to a spot where the 608 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 2: road ran beside a cliff. 609 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 3: He backed the car up to the very edge. 610 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 7: Davian stated that he just kicked the band over the people. 611 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 2: Then he drove back to Colorado Springs. 612 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 3: Davion abandoned Lizzie's car in Colorado Springs. He got a 613 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 3: ride home and then started to clean up and get 614 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 3: rid of any that could have been potential evidence. 615 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 8: I wish it never happened. I mean, I wish she 616 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 8: hadn't come at me like that. HU didn't want to 617 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 8: hurt her. 618 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 5: The police are not really buying that. They know that 619 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 5: it takes several minutes to strangle somebody. 620 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 2: It also doesn't fit with what investigators found in his 621 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 2: Internet search history. 622 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 4: They feel he was so upset that Lizzie was leaving 623 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 4: him for George that he had already planned when killing her. 624 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 5: They end up charging him with first degree murder. 625 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 2: When Davion goes on trial on February twenty fifth, twenty 626 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 2: twenty one, the prosecution tells the jury that the death 627 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 2: of Lizzie Kramer was no accident. 628 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 4: This was premeditated. This is something that Davion had planned 629 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 4: to do. 630 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 3: Prosecutors state that his motive in murdering her was the 631 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 3: fact that Lizzie was leaving him for another man. He 632 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 3: doesn't want her to take his kids away from and 633 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 3: start a new life with some other guy. 634 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 2: Davion refused to accept that their relationship was over, but 635 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 2: nothing could persuade her to get back together with him. 636 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 3: Elizabeth was not going to go back to an abusive relationship, 637 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 3: no matter how hard he tried. 638 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 5: Davione has felt like if he couldn't have Lizzie, nobody could. 639 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 2: In the end, he decided she had to die. 640 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 6: This was done out of jealousy out of him losing 641 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 6: his sense of control over the relationship. 642 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 3: Prosecutors made it clear that this was not a crime 643 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 3: of passion. Davione has spent several days searching and planning 644 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 3: out how he was going to kill her. 645 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 2: By March eighth, he was ready. 646 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 3: When Elizabeth showed up to take her children to dinner. 647 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 3: Davion took that opportunity while she was alone to end 648 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 3: her life. 649 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 2: He knew he was going to commit this crime. 650 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 8: He's prepared for it. 651 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 2: He struck without warning. 652 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 3: Davion caught her off guard as soon as she walked in, 653 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 3: put her in the chokehold that he had been practicing. 654 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,760 Speaker 5: He held it extremely tightly for several minutes. 655 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 3: Davion had plenty of time to realize what was happening, 656 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,720 Speaker 3: and still he did not loosen his grip. 657 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 2: It was deliberate and cold blooded. 658 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 4: This all happened while the kids were playing in the 659 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 4: back bedroom. 660 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 5: They're able to paint a pretty clear picture of Davion 661 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 5: as a murderer and a monster. 662 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 2: The defense argues that Davion never intended to kill his 663 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 2: ex girlfriend. 664 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 7: He maintains that Lizzie left him no choice because she attacked. 665 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 2: Them but the evidence is against him. 666 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 6: Davion had prepared this for months and that's all recorded 667 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 6: by his phone records, his computer records. 668 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 2: On September ninth, twenty twenty one, the jury reaches a decision. 669 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 3: They found Davion Rogers guilty of first agree murder. 670 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 7: He was sentenced to life in prison without parole. 671 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 5: Davion Rodgers is behind bars for life and he will 672 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 5: not ever be able to get out to inflict farm 673 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 5: on anybody else. 674 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 2: Police, prosecutors, and family agree that justice has been served. 675 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 2: He've had no remorse in it, so the sentence was 676 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 2: well deserved. 677 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 5: The murder, it was just so horrific, so cold, let 678 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 5: it so callous. 679 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 2: Davion stole the mother of his children's life at the 680 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 2: moment when she had finally found happiness. 681 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 8: Elizabeth has so much to look forward to. 682 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 4: She was a happy, joyful person who had the opportunity 683 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 4: with George to start a new life, and that was 684 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 4: stolen from her. 685 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 3: Elizabeth wasn't deserving of the end that she found. Nobody 686 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 3: deserves to be stuffed into a tote and kicked over 687 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 3: the side of a cliff. 688 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,879 Speaker 2: And Lizzie Kramer isn't the only victim. 689 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 7: Lizzie and Davian's kids. They've lost two parents. 690 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 5: It's just a tragic story all around. 691 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 1: Code hearted, intentional, and profoundly sad are the words that 692 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: come to mind when reflecting on the tragic tale of 693 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Kramer. Love can manifest in many forms, but when 694 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: it is intertwined with abuse leading to the unthinkable, it 695 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: forces us to confront some of the complex and often 696 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 1: painful nature of what love truly means. Elizabeth Kramer was 697 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: not only a devoted mother and cherished friend, but also 698 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: a beacon of light in the lives of those fortunate 699 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,320 Speaker 1: enough to know her. Her absence is deeply felt, leaving 700 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: a void in the hearts of those who love her. 701 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 1: Coming up on the next episode of the Fatal Attraction podcast, 702 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,320 Speaker 1: I Love Our Little Family. 703 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 2: She'd spent her life looking for love in all the 704 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 2: wrong places. 705 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 3: She was a type that loved and loved hard. 706 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 8: All she really wanted to do was be accepted. 707 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 12: After several failed relationships, she wanted something different. 708 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 2: And she'd finally founded with a man who promised her 709 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 2: a better life. 710 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 3: He was handsome, he was consistent, he was everything that 711 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 3: she wanted. 712 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 2: Brother a passionate love story will end in an imaginable tragedy. 713 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: We all know that feeling when love finally finds you. 714 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: There's nothing quite like it. However, when a young mother 715 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:14,399 Speaker 1: of four from Marietta, Georgia falls in love, the feelings 716 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 1: seem mutual and genuine, But then a twist disrupts the 717 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 1: euphoria and the situation takes a shocking turn when the 718 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: police receive a mysterious call, prompting them to investigate and 719 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: uncover the truth. Tune into the next episode of the 720 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 1: Fatal Attraction podcast. We will see you in the next episode.