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Speaker 1: Printing the money because we have no money, and Casey Daniel,

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Speaker 1: ninety three tembld you why PC, Well, we told you.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday it is the Year of the Listener, and as

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Speaker 2: a program for you today, ninety three WIBC. It is

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Speaker 2: the Kendall and Casey Show. I'm Rob, Casey's out. Ethan

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Speaker 2: Hatcher from Saturday Night on the Circle joins us, and

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Speaker 2: we've got so much to get to with Maduro Ethan,

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Speaker 2: because that was just a wild day in that New

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Speaker 2: everybody to stick around because coming up at ten o'clock,

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Speaker 2: and we talked about this yesterday on the program, there

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Speaker 2: is an issue that involves billions of taxpayer dollars on

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Speaker 1: It's this Mid State's Corridor project. I haven't even heard

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Speaker 1: of this. Rob.

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Speaker 3: I am really looking forward to this conversation because this

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Speaker 3: because if all the facts on the ground are true,

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Speaker 2: So Jason mcguay and you got to tell everybody you

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Speaker 2: know to tune in today at ten o'clock because this

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Speaker 2: Police related to misusing commissary money. And then all of

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Speaker 2: and this whole case just disappears. Right, this feels like

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Speaker 2: and this is like such an important issue. And my

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Speaker 2: billion dollar plan to build ad depends on which estimate

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Speaker 3: Now you're always on top of things, Rob, how has

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Speaker 1: The corridor is coming. The corridor is coming.

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Speaker 2: Well, so it's and we'll get into all of this

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Speaker 2: All right, So I declared this the Year of the

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Speaker 3: Now, Rob, I'm not trying to be insensitive here. I

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Speaker 1: But ninety two years old, that's.

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Speaker 3: Around the age we start having serious conversations about maybe

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Speaker 1: I don't like you, you go squish.

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Speaker 2: And here he is in our country, after causing a

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Speaker 2: This is fascinating watching the Democrats try to figure out

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Speaker 1: So they can't say that.

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Speaker 3: Good thing that mcdurea is no longer in power?

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Speaker 5: Maduall was a dictator, He is a thug, and he

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Speaker 2: And this is why we talked about this on a

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Speaker 1: Like how hard would that be to say?

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Speaker 3: Well, see, I have some mixed thoughts about this, rob

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Speaker 1: Look at a rack.

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Speaker 3: It did not significantly improve after Saddam husaying, Look at Libya,

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Speaker 2: we talked about this yesterday. It's totally fine, and you're

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Speaker 1: But it plays out so bad when this guy.

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Speaker 2: Who was a brutal killer and has has contributed to

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Speaker 3: The Democrats are completely ridiculous, nonsense characters. And I think

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Speaker 2: So Ted lu what is he He's still a rep right,

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Speaker 6: Certainly, this illegal action by the president does also take

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Speaker 2: He sounds so the illegal, this illegal action. Right as

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Speaker 2: Like this idea of covert military action, direct strikes. Whatever

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Speaker 3: I'm curious what your thoughts are about the motivation for

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Speaker 2: Here's the deal I will make you, because Jarrett Lewis

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Speaker 1: Done, Ethan.

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Speaker 2: And then you have this tweet that his lieutenant governor

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Speaker 2: This is a really potential to be a really nasty story,

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Speaker 3: It's a very important issue to consider. But my question

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, coming up ten o'clock we will have that interview.

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Speaker 2: Don't miss it. This needs to be on your radar.

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Speaker 2: You need to know about this, and it is. They're

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Speaker 2: certainly he's a part of the equation, right, he was

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Speaker 2: having annual deficits. But the Trump administration printed more money

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Speaker 2: than Biden, and especially in twenty twenty, a whole bunch

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Speaker 2: of it, which has now come out, went to stuff

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Speaker 2: like this daycare scam, where they just threw money at

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Speaker 2: the states said here catch And now they're feigning this

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Speaker 2: outrage over the Minnesota daycare scame when you are the

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Speaker 2: people that contributed to it.

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Speaker 3: As fast as the money was being given out, it's

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Speaker 3: almost impossible to keep track of where every penny of

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Speaker 3: that was going.

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Speaker 1: Look at the huge scam that the PPP loans turned

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Speaker 1: out to be. Yeah, absolutely all right.

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Speaker 2: So Tim Walls came out yesterday, governor of Minnesota, former

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Speaker 2: vice presidential candidate for the Democrats, and he announced that

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I want you to listen to these comments he made

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Speaker 2: because instead of doing the right thing, which is saying

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Speaker 2: I was in charge, I oversaw this money getting distributed. Clearly,

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Speaker 2: this money was not going to the purposes it was expressed.

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Speaker 2: We were not providing proper oversight. The buckrests me what

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Speaker 2: any sort of decent person would say, right, especially on

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Speaker 2: something of this magnitude. We're not talking about nine dollars here,

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Speaker 2: We're talking at potentially, what was it, nine billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this. He blames the YouTuber kid that exposed this,

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Speaker 2: and the Republicans in Minnesota who have no power over anything,

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Speaker 2: and Donald Trump, who's not in charge of Minnesota. He

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Speaker 2: blames everyone but himself.

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Speaker 7: Listen, but the political gamesmanship we're seeing from Republicans is

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Speaker 7: only making that fight harder. We've got Republicans here in

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Speaker 7: the state legislature playing hide and seek with potential whistleblowers.

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Speaker 7: We've got conspiracy theorist right wing YouTubers breaking into our daycares,

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Speaker 7: demanding access to our children. We've got the President of

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Speaker 7: the United States demonizing our Somali neighbors and wrongfully confiscating

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Speaker 7: funds that Minnesotans rely. It's disgusting and it's dangerous.

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Speaker 1: Notice he doesn't say it didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: He isn't saying, oh, this is being made up, it's

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Speaker 2: being exaggerated, this is a fake news. He never denies

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Speaker 2: the thing that the YouTube kid uncovered is happening. But

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Speaker 2: then he proceeds to blame everybody but himself but the DFL,

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Speaker 2: which is the Democrat Farm and Labor Party, essentially the

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Speaker 2: Democrats who run Minnesota. That's what it's just called in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: He blames everyone but himself.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's also being dishonest and libelous when he suggests

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Speaker 3: that Nick Shirley was breaking in to these daycare centers.

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Speaker 3: Nick Sureley didn't break in anywhere. In fact, they did

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Speaker 3: everything they could to prevent him from entering and prevent

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Speaker 3: him from finding out more information. And as far as

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Speaker 3: I'm aware, he acted lawfully and within the bounds of

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Speaker 3: what is legally acceptable.

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Speaker 1: Plus, these are supposed to be public buildings.

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Speaker 3: Rob anyone from off the street can come into a

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Speaker 3: daycare center and apply to be part of their services

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Speaker 3: if they want, and they have children that are ready

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Speaker 3: to enroll, so theoretically he should be allowed to come

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Speaker 3: into this public establishment.

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Speaker 2: But we have to mention this again because what's happening

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Speaker 2: in Minnesota is completely disgusting and everyone should be outraged.

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Speaker 2: But when you look at if somebody were to do

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Speaker 2: the same thing here in Indiana and they were to

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Speaker 2: look at what happened with Medicaid in the state of

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Speaker 2: Indiana under Eric Holcomb from twenty twenty four until really

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Speaker 2: the end of his term, and the amount of able

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Speaker 2: bodied people who were capable of working who were thrown

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Speaker 2: onto the Medicaid rolls because of just like with this

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Speaker 2: daycare stuff in Minnesota, all the money that was coming

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Speaker 2: in from the federal government and all the money that

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Speaker 2: was wasted on people who didn't want to get off

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Speaker 2: their duff and go to work. Like we sit on

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Speaker 2: some phony moral high horse here in judgment of Minnesota

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Speaker 2: because they did this, it's horrible, But we have our

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Speaker 2: own stuff here. See the Indiana Economic Development Corporation and

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Speaker 2: the hundreds of millions of dollars that are being exposed

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Speaker 2: that we're part of waste, fraud and abuse in which

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Speaker 2: people who were controlling the decisions where the money went,

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Speaker 2: we're sending that money to companies they were affiliated with.

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Speaker 2: It is disgusting that these Indiana Republicans try to act

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Speaker 2: as though our house is clean.

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Speaker 1: It is not.

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Speaker 2: Now is it nine billion dollars like Minnesota? Maybe not,

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Speaker 2: don't know, but it's a lot of money, and it's

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Speaker 2: our money, and they abused.

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Speaker 1: It just the same way as the people in Minnesota did.

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Speaker 3: What was about a ninth of the size of Minnesota's abuse,

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Speaker 3: wasn't it didn't It lead to about a billion dollar

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Speaker 3: shortfall because of the hip two point zero Medicaid plan.

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Speaker 2: And think about how many people are still probably on

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Speaker 2: the program that shouldn't be now they're kicking Remember, they're

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Speaker 2: making it harder for severely disabled children for their parents

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Speaker 2: to get paid to take care of them. They screwed

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Speaker 2: those people. But if you did.

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Speaker 1: An actual audit, it actually you.

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Speaker 2: Went and gutted, went in and found out what was

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Speaker 2: going on that Medicaid program. You're going to find so

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Speaker 2: many people who could get off their asses and go

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Speaker 2: to work in this state who are choosing not to

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Speaker 2: because they're being financially incentivized by getting free or five

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Speaker 2: or ten dollars a month insurance.

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Speaker 3: I think part of the reason why healthcare expenses have

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Speaker 3: gotten so out of control for the average person is

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Speaker 3: because of all this free money that is floating around

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Speaker 3: that incentivizes these hospitals and healthcare institutions to grab as

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Speaker 3: much as humanly possible. It's the same thing that has

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Speaker 3: driven tuition costs through the roof as soon as the

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Speaker 3: United States government nationalized student loans because it incentivized these

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Speaker 3: institutions to no longer provide a quality education. That's not

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Speaker 3: what it's all about. It's about he's getting as many

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Speaker 3: warm bodies through the door as possible. And I think

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Speaker 3: healthcare has worked the same way all right. One more

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Speaker 3: clip from Walls trainer Timmy. He says he's.

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Speaker 2: Very proud of Minnesota and despite this little nine billion

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Speaker 2: dollar discrepancy, the status quo is onward and upward.

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Speaker 7: I'm on the job. I'm focused on making sure that

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Speaker 7: we stay America's best place to live and raise kids.

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Speaker 7: No one will take that away from us. I'm proud

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Speaker 7: of the way we treat our neighbors. I'm proud of

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Speaker 7: the way that we welcome people to this state. I'm

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Speaker 7: proud of the way that we innovate, and I'm proud

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Speaker 7: of the way that we are optimists for the future.

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Speaker 7: No one's taking this away from us, not the fraudsters, certainly,

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Speaker 7: not this president, not on my watch.

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Speaker 2: Zero accountability ethan, none whatsoever, not even acknowledging what happened,

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Speaker 2: not even saying this happened. You know, if you want

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Speaker 2: to try to spin it, you say something like, hey,

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Speaker 2: our hearts were in the right place. We were trying

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Speaker 2: to provide childcare, sol parents could go to work. Clearly

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Speaker 2: we screwed up. Clearly made a mistake.

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Speaker 1: You know what.

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Speaker 2: He's putting it on everyone who had nothing to do

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Speaker 2: with this, including the guy who exposed the story. They

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Speaker 2: need to put a little asterisk behind that statement. Nobody

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Speaker 2: can take this away from us, asterisk because it's already gone.

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Speaker 2: The money's already out the door, and they already built

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Speaker 2: burnt Minneapolis to the ground during the Summer of Love

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, and I don't think that city's ever

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Speaker 2: fully recovered. As many leftist major metropolitans have not all right,

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Speaker 2: real quick, because I want to play this in case

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Speaker 2: people think, well, Robin Ethan are a couple of radical

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Speaker 2: right wingers and they're just making it up. Here is

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Speaker 2: former Biden official, Michael Larassa is his name, and he

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Speaker 2: was talking about walls and even he's talking about even

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Speaker 2: a former senior member of Biden's staff was talking about

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Speaker 2: how completely screwed up this is.

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Speaker 8: I've been a little disappointed in how the governor has

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Speaker 8: handled this from the beginning. By the way, he hasn't

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Speaker 8: demonstrated the kind of contrition or humility that a executive officer,

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Speaker 8: the executive of a state, should demonstrate when there is

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Speaker 8: this these prosecutions of what seems to be mass, massive

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Speaker 8: examples of government failure, state agencies, six to seven state

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Speaker 8: agencies that just clearly broke down and really betrayed the

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Speaker 8: taxpayers with what would be.

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Speaker 1: Nine billion dollars in fraud.

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Speaker 8: And I haven't seen that humility and contrition fromhim that

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Speaker 8: I would have liked to have seen from somebody who

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Speaker 8: should be taking responsibility because it happened under his watch.

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Speaker 2: This crap is happening everywhere in every state of the Union,

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Speaker 2: and if you think it isn't happening here, you're dreaming.

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Speaker 2: Kettley Casey Show, ninety three WIBC ninety three WIBC. It's

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Speaker 2: Kennelly Casey Show and rob Ethan's in for Casey today.

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Speaker 2: Big news coming down. Yesterday, the Board for the Corporation

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Speaker 2: of Public Broadcasting voted to formally dissolve the organization. And

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Speaker 2: this comes after Congress basically wiped out their money. He said, look,

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Speaker 2: there's a gajillion private radio stations in this country. Why

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Speaker 2: are we paying for these people essentially to compete with

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Speaker 2: people are trying to earn the money the old fashioned way.

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Speaker 2: And I wanted to play this clip for you. It's

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Speaker 2: from John Kennedy, Senator from Louisiana, and he was talking

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Speaker 2: yesterday on the Senate floor about why the Corporation of

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Speaker 2: Public Broadcasting went down, got its public funding cut, and

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Speaker 2: he's talking about because of their liberal bias on everything.

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Speaker 9: I don't have a problem with these headlines. This is America.

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Speaker 9: If you want to publish articles like this, which no

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Speaker 9: person with a brain above a single cell organism would

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Speaker 9: call fair and balanced.

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Speaker 1: If you're a.

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Speaker 9: News outlet and you want to publish this kind of

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Speaker 9: stuff that is your right as an American. We have

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Speaker 9: freedom of the press, we have the First Amendment. You're

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Speaker 9: not free in our country if you can't say what

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Speaker 9: you think. You're not free in our country if you

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Speaker 9: can't express yourself. I'm all for this, if that's what

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Speaker 9: these outlets want to do, but I'm not for taking

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Speaker 9: five hundred million dollars every single year and giving it

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Speaker 9: to these stations to the exclusion of everybody else so

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Speaker 9: they can do.

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Speaker 1: He's absolutely right. He's absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: And there's many fine people locally who work for various

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Speaker 2: public broadcasting outlets, and they do a nice job, and

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Speaker 2: I hope they land on their feet, and I hope

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Speaker 2: that their careers continue to thrive because we need good

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Speaker 2: people in the media.

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Speaker 3: What happened to the PBS telethons? Because I thought they

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Speaker 3: used to have these public funding drives and at the

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Speaker 3: end of every program they say in this program was brought.

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Speaker 2: To you by viewers like you through taking it from

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Speaker 2: your taxes. Absolutely, all right, We're going to take a break. Ethan'

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Speaker 2: said for Casey today when we come back, Jason McCoy

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Speaker 2: from the Property Rights Alliance, he is going to join

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Speaker 2: us and we are going to talk about a story

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Speaker 2: that I think could could potentially maybe after today, it

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Speaker 2: will end up being front and center in Indianapolis media.

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Speaker 2: It should be a story across the state. It is

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Speaker 2: this multi billion dollar proposal to fund the Mid States

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Speaker 2: Corridor project to connect sixty four to sixty nine. And

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Speaker 2: the part of this that you can't escape is how

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Speaker 2: our Governor Mike Brawn might financially benefit from it. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk about it coming up next. Kenn On The Casey Show,

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Speaker 2: ninety three WIBC