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Speaker 1: Why from Ball Hartlier and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 2: We look at the statute and some of us think

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Speaker 2: about the legislative history and what Congress's intent was when

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Speaker 2: we're interpreting the statute. I don't recall, and maybe we have,

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Speaker 2: but I'm just curious about this really heavy reliance on

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Speaker 2: the nineteenth century understanding of the word election day, especially

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Speaker 2: when we have a more recent understanding that has been

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Speaker 2: implemented and Congress hasn't said anything about it.

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Speaker 3: I would say the nineteenth century evidence of meeting is

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Speaker 3: the best evidence of the original public meaning of the

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Speaker 3: statutes at the time they were adopted eighteen forty.

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Speaker 2: And you're saying that governs we have to interpret election day,

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Speaker 2: notwithstanding that Congress may have wanted states to experiment, that

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Speaker 2: states have experimented and done other things. We are bound,

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Speaker 2: you say, by exactly what election day people thought it

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Speaker 2: meant at the time these statutes weren't acted.

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Speaker 4: Right, Well, if election day doesn't mean election day, and

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Speaker 4: then what in the world does election day mean?

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Speaker 5: Katanji Brown Jackson, I mean, if it.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't mean election day the day of the election, what

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Speaker 4: does it mean? Tony Katz, Tony katz today. Good to

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Speaker 4: be here, guys, good to see you.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. This weekend seemed to take forever.

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Speaker 4: This is the case regarding mail in ballots arriving late.

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Speaker 5: This is serious stuff, you.

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Speaker 4: Know by now, At least for me, I believe election

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Speaker 4: day should be a twenty four hour period. It should

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Speaker 4: be a full twenty four hour period. There should be

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Speaker 4: no early voting whatsoever. It should also be we should

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Speaker 4: take it and make it a holiday, which is to say,

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Speaker 4: there is no excuse not to vote on election day.

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Speaker 4: Let us end the possibilities for fraud. Let us certainly

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Speaker 4: and the madness of willing nilly mail in balloting. And

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Speaker 4: let us end the idea that a ballot outside of

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Speaker 4: military or true absenteeism that arrives after the cutoff should

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Speaker 4: be counted. What a nonsense, irrational and holy violent opinion,

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Speaker 4: just madness.

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Speaker 5: This is that case.

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Speaker 4: All fifty states require ballots to be cast or postmarked

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Speaker 4: honor before election day.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 4: I don't even like the idea that it's postmarked election

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Speaker 4: day because it shows up later, but one could argue

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Speaker 4: they voted on the day. All right, Let's count that.

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Speaker 4: Let's count that there are fourteen states that have a

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Speaker 4: grace period.

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Speaker 5: What do you mean a grace period? What the bloody

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Speaker 5: heck is a.

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Speaker 4: Receiving and counting regular ballots from a day to several

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Speaker 4: weeks after the election. The only reason to allow something

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Speaker 4: to happen several weeks after an election is to encourage

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Speaker 4: the opportunity for fraud. The end, We're insane, We are

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Speaker 4: out of its, out of our mind to think this.

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Speaker 4: But this is the case in front of us. Now again,

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Speaker 4: I'm willing to concede. If it's postmarked on the day

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Speaker 4: of election day, I don't actually like it. I think

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Speaker 4: the votes have to be in so they can be

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Speaker 4: counted on election day.

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Speaker 5: This is the case.

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Speaker 4: And Katanji Brown Jackson, Atlanta Kagan, they were just speaking.

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Speaker 4: But brown Jackson, who can't stop talking, thinks.

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Speaker 5: That the definition, or at least.

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Speaker 4: What the way I interpreted her, If the definition of

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Speaker 4: what election day is is from the nineteen hundreds, you

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Speaker 4: think that's good enough and the answer is in the

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Speaker 5: I think she was saying they at.

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Speaker 4: Least understood the difference in a man and a woman,

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Speaker 4: so maybe they still had it right here here she

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Speaker 4: is in her own words as I pick up as

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Speaker 4: these or arguments are actually happening as we speak, original

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Speaker 4: public meeting and of course Condra that is Greek listener

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Speaker 4: General John.

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Speaker 3: De statues eighteen forty four, eighteen forty five, and eighteen

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Speaker 3: seventy two about the exact thing that mississippis, almost the

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Counsel Justice Thomas, just to leave him this.

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Speaker 7: Show me what the act is that you think has

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Speaker 7: to be done by election day, by the official peak

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Speaker 3: All ballots have to receive in the ballot box has

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Speaker 5: Has together perposely what do we do?

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Speaker 6: And I know you did.

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Speaker 7: This, and I am a little upset, not a little,

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Speaker 7: a lot upset by many of the statements in your brief,

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Speaker 7: quoting historical sources out of context. But the Pains Treatise

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Speaker 7: on the Law of Elections to Public Officers you claim

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Speaker 7: had a traditional rule was that the legal votes duly

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Speaker 7: offered at the polls, but not actually deposited in the

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Speaker 7: ballot box cannot be counted. But I look to that

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Speaker 7: treatise and it says in some of the states that

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Speaker 7: is the rule, but that in others, and also for

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Speaker 7: the US House of Representatives, the rule was the opposite.

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Speaker 7: As Pain wrote, it was an eighteen eighty eight and

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Speaker 7: established rule of the House of Representatives of the United

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Speaker 7: States that a vote offered an unlawfully rejected, so it

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Speaker 7: wasn't accepted at the polls will be counted in a

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Speaker 7: contest even if not accepted by officials on election day.

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Speaker 7: And we have another source, youe site.

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Speaker 5: We'll get to that source in a second.

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Speaker 4: This all stems from a case in Mississippi or a

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Speaker 4: story of Mississippi, which allows a five day grace period

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Speaker 4: that allows mail in ballots postmarked by election day to

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Speaker 4: received and counted. This is the law that's under the

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Speaker 4: review being challenged only by the RNC, the Republican National Committee,

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Speaker 4: also the Libertarian Party of Mississippi.

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Speaker 5: They argue that.

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Speaker 4: Federal law mandates ballots be received by election day and

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Speaker 4: that allowing post election receipts violates the single federal election day.

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Speaker 4: My argument would be, we don't have a single federal

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Speaker 4: election day, which is the whole damn problem. But they're

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Speaker 4: making the argument that even if a guy like I

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Speaker 4: it's account they're saying, no, no, no, no, no, that's not

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Speaker 4: how we do this.

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Speaker 5: If election day.

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Speaker 4: The day we count, everything is this day, this Tuesday,

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Speaker 4: this whatever day, Well, the next.

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Speaker 5: Day we count, we don't count anything afterwards.

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Speaker 4: Now, having reviewed this for all of five minutes, I'm

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Speaker 4: with them. Even if you postmarket on election day, where

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Speaker 4: I originally said, well, you can at least give it

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Speaker 4: a couple of days to get to you know, your

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Speaker 4: job is to get it in before then you're voting

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Speaker 4: on election day or better Yet, we're counting on election day.

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Speaker 4: We're not counting for days after. Now, I know what

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Speaker 4: you're saying, Tony. Part of the damn problem in America

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Speaker 4: is we're always counting for day after. Every other country

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Speaker 4: millions of votes they can count in three hours.

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Speaker 5: We take two weeks. Because our system.

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Speaker 4: As we have allowed it to be abused, I mean abused,

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Speaker 4: is built on the opportunity for engaging in fraud. We

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Speaker 4: don't have to debate with lesser minds about this. We

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Speaker 4: know this to be true, and we have to do

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Speaker 4: everything in our power to stop it from happening.

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Speaker 5: So this case pretty important.

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Speaker 4: And I would be very I am very curious. Right

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Speaker 4: one quick posting over there at the AP, the court's

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Speaker 4: conservative justices appear mostly skeptical of Mississippi's defense of its

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Speaker 4: five day grace period. Hugely important. This is a hugely

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Speaker 4: important case that isn't going to get.

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Speaker 5: I mean today doesn't seem.

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Speaker 4: To be getting much coverage at all, because well, everything

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Speaker 4: is Trump.

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Speaker 5: Made a deal with Iran. What do you mean Trump

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Speaker 5: made a deal with Iran with who? Who in the

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Speaker 5: world did President Trump make a deal with? I like deals,

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Speaker 5: But the way you hear the President say it, oh yeah,

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Speaker 5: oh we'll have peace in our time. Now, he's not

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Speaker 4: But if you allow the regime to stay, you're only

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Speaker 4: begging for a problem, I mean a huge one. I

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Speaker 4: will share with you what is going on between the

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Speaker 4: we don't even know who the Iranians have to negotiate with.

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Speaker 4: Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz.

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Speaker 5: Today. These talks go well.

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Speaker 8: And you don't think he's gonna be a back club again.

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Speaker 9: If these talks go well, when you reach a ceasefire

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Speaker 9: agreement with Iran, do you believe Israel would abide by

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Speaker 9: that agreement.

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Speaker 8: I think Israel will.

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Speaker 10: Be very happy with what we have. We just spoke

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Speaker 10: very happy. This will be peace for Israel, long term peace,

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Speaker 10: Garret Deed Peece. If this happens, and you know, I

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Speaker 10: can't guarantee it, but I think it's going to And

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Speaker 10: my life is a deal. That's all I do is

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Speaker 10: deal is my whole life. I think this is something

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Speaker 10: that's going to happen. And why wouldn't it happen? So

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Speaker 10: tomorrow morning, sometime their time, we were expected to blow

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Speaker 10: up their largest electric generating plants that costs over ten

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Speaker 10: billion dollars to bill. It's a very good one. There

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Speaker 10: it collapses. Why would they want that? So they called,

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Speaker 10: I didn't call. They called. They want to make a deal,

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Speaker 10: and we are very willing to make a deal. It's

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Speaker 10: got to be a good deal, and it's got to

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Speaker 10: be no more wars. No more nuclear weapons. They're not

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Speaker 10: going to have nuclear weapons anymore. They're agreeing to that.

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Speaker 10: Any of that stuff is no deal.

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Speaker 4: Now this sent the market into super happy times. It's like,

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Speaker 4: my goodness, this is all gonna be just great, this

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Speaker 4: is gonna be over. I have a question, and my question,

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Speaker 4: mister President, is we have destroyed their leadership. We have

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Speaker 4: killed everybody in charge. Who are we negotiating with?

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Speaker 5: Tony Katz? Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 4: Guys, good to be here, good to be with you.

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Speaker 4: This was the president today. Now he's supposed to be

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Speaker 4: speaking later. It's going to be it's Memphis, right, Producer Landon,

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Speaker 4: All right, it's a I mean we know that he

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Speaker 4: had already sent ice agents there. It's going to be

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Speaker 4: a safety conversation. Fine, you know you've got ice agents

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Speaker 4: on how things are going there. These four hour, five hour,

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Speaker 4: six hour lines that have been taking place because Democrats

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Speaker 4: won't fund the Department of Homeland Security like they should.

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Speaker 4: They want the pain gone from themselves to fund TSA.

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Speaker 4: But the truth is many Democrats are now on the

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Speaker 4: record saying the pain is great.

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Speaker 5: It gives US leverage.

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Speaker 4: They don't care if you go on spring break. They

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Speaker 4: don't care if you get to see mema, they don't care.

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Speaker 4: They're very clear about this. I don't know who the

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Speaker 5: How it's possible to come to some kind of a

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Speaker 5: deal on Iran. How does that work?

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Speaker 4: Including Well, if there's a deal, we're going to go

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Speaker 4: in and take the enrich uranium ourselves. Well, now we're

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Speaker 4: because even I, who do this every day no different

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Speaker 4: and then I have to remind myself Tony, in a

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Speaker 4: two very very different things. So let's start with where

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Speaker 4: seeing here? President Trump writing today, I am pleased to report.

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Speaker 4: Based on the tenor and tone of these, in depth

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Speaker 5: The secretary of State in Israel? What did it matter?

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Speaker 5: Hell is the tree of Iran? There's no administration, there

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Speaker 4: We're at war and I don't think anything has changed,

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Speaker 8: This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 4: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be here, Good

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Speaker 5: Be the subject.

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Speaker 4: And I am only interested in doctors who can pass

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Speaker 4: the best of our ability. But education, or I should

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Speaker 5: She is a.

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Speaker 5: That is not at all.

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Speaker 4: Anything that is worthy of study. Sociology degree at the

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Speaker 8: She is.

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Speaker 5: This professor, and she wants.

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Speaker 4: You to know some very very very important things.

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Speaker 11: And the idea that I have to get up here

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Speaker 11: You for using lesbian politics as a front for your transphobia,

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Speaker 6: Of girlfriends with penises. Now, perhaps, just.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I'm thinking in retrospect.

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Speaker 5: That I probably, if we were friend and should have

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking maybe I'm a bad guy, and I would

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Speaker 5: None of them bring me a blizzard.

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Speaker 4: Need some Oreo in the My wife bought sugar free Oreos.

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Speaker 4: It's really it's it's it's it's really bad. I didn't

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Speaker 5: This woman really said this.

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Speaker 11: Shame on you, Shame on all of you, and shame

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Speaker 4: No, you haven't. You've never had a girlfriend with a penis.

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Speaker 4: Never once. It never happened. It's a lie. Now, you

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Speaker 4: You lie.

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Speaker 5: One of the hardest problems we have is that.

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Speaker 4: How does one keep up with all the madness in

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Speaker 4: The answer is no. I love you more and the

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Speaker 4: answer is no. And that's what you do. Gotta make

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Speaker 4: it stop. Gotta make it stop. Parents need to be

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Speaker 4: the people.

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Speaker 5: Who make it stop.

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Speaker 4: How do you stop your kids from getting indoctrinated by

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Speaker 4: actually stopping them.

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Speaker 5: That's how it's done.

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Speaker 4: You stop them, you say no.

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Speaker 5: Now, this is a lot easier if you start from

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Speaker 5: a basis of your their parents and not their friends.

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Speaker 4: See, if you try to be a parent your kid's

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Speaker 4: friends their whole life.

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Speaker 5: You can't actually stop them because a friend can't do that.

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Speaker 4: But you're the parent. A parent is not a friend.

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Speaker 4: I am not my kid's friends. I am their father,

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Speaker 4: and it is a very different job. I like my job,

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Speaker 4: sometimes a thankless job, but I am not their friend.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to be my kid's best friend. I

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Speaker 4: want my kids to have a best friend or friends.

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Speaker 4: In general.

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Speaker 5: I want to be their father, be the only.

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Speaker 4: Person in their life who never ever ever lies to them,

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Speaker 4: Be the only person in their life who will always

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Speaker 4: answer them honestly and doesn't judge them, discusses the pros

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Speaker 4: and the cons. You want my opinion, and I'll give

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Speaker 4: it to you. After that, you are.

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Speaker 5: Grown ups, make the call and then work with what happens.

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Speaker 4: But if you're not willing to tell your kid, no,

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Speaker 4: this is my money and it's not going to that.

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Speaker 4: I'm not filling your head with that crap because no

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Speaker 4: girlfriend ever had a penis. If you're not willing to

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Speaker 4: say that, you're not a good parent. If you say

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Speaker 4: to me, who am I to tell you about being

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Speaker 4: a parent, I'm a rational human being making a declaration.

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Speaker 4: And if people don't want to listen to the show,

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Speaker 4: SCROWM don't care. If you send your kid to a

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Speaker 4: school where the professor says, my girlfriend's a penis says

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Speaker 4: that's a bad school.

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Speaker 5: That's a bad teacher.

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Speaker 4: You shouldn't send your kid there, and if you do,

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Speaker 4: you're a.

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Speaker 5: Lousy, crap parent.

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Speaker 4: Now all you have to do is stop do you

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Speaker 4: know how easy it is not to be a lousy

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Speaker 4: crap parent. Allow me to help you start by not

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Speaker 4: being a lousy crap parent.

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Speaker 5: You stop doing the lousy crap thing, You stop doing it,

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Speaker 5: you start changing that. Oh yeah, it'll be weird because

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Speaker 5: your kid may not be used to it. But whoever

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Speaker 5: said it was too late to change, not me, not you,

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Speaker 5: not the world.

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Speaker 8: No it's not.

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Speaker 5: It's not too late. You gotta at least try.

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Speaker 4: And you have to say, you have to recognize that

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Speaker 4: academia is not education. Academia is broken. Education is necessary.

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Speaker 4: There's a difference. I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony

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Speaker 4: Katz today.

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Speaker 12: As the days continue, this is going to continue to

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Speaker 12: get worse. We are certainly grateful, of course for President Trump,

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Speaker 12: Director Allons and where's our home, and for the ICE

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Speaker 12: support and they're going to be conducting non specialized security support,

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Speaker 12: you know, manning the exit lanes, crowd management, line control,

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Speaker 12: h So we're incredibly grateful again for their support to

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Speaker 12: help alleviate the challenges that our officers are facing, that

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Speaker 12: the traveling population is facing.

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Speaker 8: But you know, we're hopeful, but we're going to continue

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Speaker 8: to focus on the.

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Speaker 12: Mission and if this drags on, it's going to continue

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Speaker 12: to get worse.

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Speaker 5: He's discussing.

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Speaker 4: That's Adam Stall, He's the acting deputy TSA administrator.

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Speaker 5: Me I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 4: The show is Tony Katz today, and he is discussing

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Speaker 4: ICE assisting TSA in getting these lines handled because of

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Speaker 4: the government's shutdown, because of what it is that Democrats

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Speaker 4: have done. So ICE is now assisting.

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Speaker 10: Now.

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Speaker 5: This is a very, very I think smart move.

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Speaker 4: The thing that hasn't been able to answer is does

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Speaker 4: this to anyone rehabilitate ICE's image?

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Speaker 5: So if lines go from four.

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Speaker 4: Hours to forty two minutes, which is still too long.

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Speaker 4: But I'm trying to be reasonable here, and ICE is

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Speaker 4: all about pleases and thank you have a nice day.

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Speaker 4: And they approach things with a professionalism and a bit

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Speaker 4: of a smile to people say, you know what, they

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Speaker 4: did a great job. Do they feel better? They so

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Speaker 4: calm down. Like I went through security, ICE was there,

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Speaker 4: it was fine. Does it rehabilitate an image? I don't

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Speaker 4: have an answer. I am curious what that might look like.

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Speaker 4: I wonder how upset this made the political left. You

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Speaker 4: wanted to find homeland security, you want to put children

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Speaker 4: at risk. You want to make sure kids can't see

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Speaker 4: Grandma for spring break, or go down to Daytona Beach

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Speaker 4: or wherever it is and find love and then find

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Speaker 4: it again the next night, then find it again the

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Speaker 4: next night, and then twice in the afternoon after that,

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Speaker 4: then once again the night after that, and then have

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Speaker 4: to go see their doctor. If you want to stop

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Speaker 4: kids from doing that, well, then my god, you are animals.

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Speaker 4: Democrats have not given up the ghosts on this think

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Speaker 4: that this is a winner, winner position. They're thrilled with

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Speaker 4: the pain that they're causing. I don't know yet if

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Speaker 4: this is a winning move for Trump, it can't be

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Speaker 4: a bad move. Take me from a four hour line

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Speaker 4: to a forty one minute line and people will say, good,

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Speaker 4: I'm glad they're taking this seriously. Question is are Republicans

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Speaker 4: far enough to run on it? And the answer to

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Speaker 4: that is to the Republicans, probably not.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 4: I saw this too, Mike, that Ice is already finding

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Speaker 4: people in the country illegally at the airports. I listen,

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Speaker 4: if you're in the country illegally, you're in the country illegally.

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Speaker 4: I have zero issue with you being arrested for this

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Speaker 4: no problem with it whatsoever.

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Speaker 5: But can I say, and this.

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Speaker 4: May sound like I'm not focused on the right things,

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Speaker 4: if I think I am, I would rather they were

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Speaker 4: focused on the line through You put ice in to

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Speaker 4: prevent the shutdown of airports, and you put ice in

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Speaker 4: as a pr move to say we're the ones getting

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Speaker 4: things done for you, not these ridiculous democrats. Don't cloud

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Speaker 4: that image. You want exactly that we serve. You just

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Speaker 4: gonna bring us to a statement from people like Sean Duffy,

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Speaker 4: the Secretary of Transportation, who I like.

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Speaker 5: Regarding Trump and oil and prices.

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Speaker 4: We will get into all of it. Find everything at

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Speaker 4: tonycats dot com. We've got more coming up. This is

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Speaker 4: Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 1: Line from ball Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 8: It's Tony Katz Today, and that's why I'm here today.

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Speaker 10: In fact, we were going to cancel because we have

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Speaker 10: a couple of events going on, as you probably notice.

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Speaker 8: So they said, oh, we'll cancel Memphis. We can.

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Speaker 10: I said, We're not canceling Memphis for anything where not cancel.

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Speaker 8: We're not going to cancel Memphis.

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Speaker 10: But we do have some big things happening and very

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Speaker 10: positive I have to say so before getting to our

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Speaker 10: important discussion this morning, let me provide a brief update

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Speaker 10: on Operation Epic Fury, which is a very good name.

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Speaker 10: As it turns out, that was the name they showed

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Speaker 10: me twenty names, Sir, what name would you like? I

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Speaker 10: didn't like any of them, And then I get toward

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Speaker 10: the end, I said, you got to be kidding. What

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Speaker 10: Operation Epic Fury? I love that name.

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Speaker 4: I would prefer Operation dead Ayatola new regime.

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Speaker 5: Go have lunch, but that seems to have been too

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Speaker 5: long for a T shirt.

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Speaker 4: Tony Kats, Tony Kats today, guys, an absolute pleasure to

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Speaker 4: be with you. That is President Trump. He is there

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Speaker 4: in Memphis. You know, there has been a lot of

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Speaker 4: movement into Memphis, like in Washington, d C. To get

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Speaker 4: the streets safer. So he is there to discuss what's

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Speaker 4: going on. But of course he's not going to have

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Speaker 4: a conversation without discussing the latest out of Iran and

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Speaker 4: the possibility of a deal there. I just don't know

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Speaker 4: how this deal is supposed to work because I don't

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Speaker 4: know who he's negotiating with. He put it out there.

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Speaker 4: There have been good conversations regarding quote, a complete and

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Speaker 4: total resolution of our hostilities in the Middle East, based

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Speaker 4: on the tenor and tone of these in depth detailed

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Speaker 4: the constructive conversations which will continue throughout the week. I've

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Speaker 4: instructed the Department of War to postpone endy and all

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Speaker 4: military strikes against Uranian power plants and energy infrastructure for

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Speaker 4: a five day period, subject to the success.

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Speaker 5: Of the ongoing meetings and discussion.

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Speaker 4: Well, just two days before this, he said, if I

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Speaker 4: don't have a deal from the Iranians, I'm gonna blow

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Speaker 4: up all their crap ah, power.

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Speaker 5: Plants, everything ah all gone. And then he puts out this.

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Speaker 4: My question is, who is he negotiating with the administration there?

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Speaker 4: The regime has been mostly killed, is most baton now speaking.

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Speaker 5: That's that's the Sun. That's the son who's allegedly gay.

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Speaker 4: I have no idea, and that was the reason why

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Speaker 4: the Iotola didn't like him. He is more of a

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Speaker 4: hardliner than his father. We've heard he's been he's been disfigured.

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Speaker 4: We've heard he's been incapacitated. That place is being run

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Speaker 4: by the Iotola pen It's like the autopen but for Iotolas.

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Speaker 4: So who is running the scene here. That's the question

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Speaker 4: who is in charge and how are we negotiating with them?

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Speaker 4: So let's take it now to President Trump speaking at

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Speaker 4: this event.

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Speaker 8: And it's very appropriate for what's taking place, if you know.

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Speaker 8: And in Iran, because.

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Speaker 10: We knocked out their navy, we knocked out their air force,

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Speaker 10: we knocked out their anti aircraft, we knocked out everything,

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Speaker 10: and we did it with fury. Actually, as I announced earlier,

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Speaker 10: based on preliminary conversations between the United States and Iran

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Speaker 10: over the past two days, I've directed the Department of

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Speaker 10: War too temporarily postpone plans strikes against major energy and

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Speaker 10: electricity targets in Iran. They have very very big, new

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Speaker 10: actually and very expensive billions of dollars that cost to

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Speaker 10: build missile, one of our powerful ones, and it comes

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Speaker 10: down to the ground like it was made out of dust.

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Speaker 8: But to determine whether a broader agreement can.

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Speaker 10: Be reached, we've had very good discussions, very very good discussions.

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Speaker 10: And you have to understand, I know my whole life

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Speaker 10: has been a negotiation, but with Iran, we've been negotiating

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Speaker 10: for a.

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Speaker 8: Long time, and this time they mean business.

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Speaker 10: And it's only because of the great job that our

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Speaker 10: military did is the reason.

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Speaker 8: They mean business. They want to settle and we're going

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Speaker 8: to get it done. And I hope, so hopefully this

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Speaker 8: will be possible.

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Speaker 10: But no matter what, we'll ensure that Iran never obtains

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Speaker 10: a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 8: They can't have a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 10: They would have had one if we allowed the Obama.

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Speaker 8: Deal to stand.

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Speaker 10: That was the rand nuclear deal they called it. They

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Speaker 10: would have had one. Marsha III, I'll tell you.

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Speaker 4: What, well, we'll tell you what in a second. The

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Speaker 4: Iran nuclear deal was never a worthy deal. The Iran

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Speaker 4: nuclear deal never made any sense. The Iran nuclear Deal

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Speaker 4: was a spectacular world class mistake. The Iran Nuclear Deal

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Speaker 4: was about allowing around to proceed and pretending like we

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Speaker 4: were doing something. There's still a defense for it out there,

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Speaker 4: which is kind of remarkable.

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Speaker 5: There shouldn't be. It's maddening to think that there could be.

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Speaker 10: Author we would have nuclear weapons up there. When would

662
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Speaker 10: you say, two years ago, three years ago, four years ago,

663
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Speaker 10: we would have been in a position that nobody wants

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Speaker 10: to be in.

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Speaker 8: We won't allow ourselves to be in that position. Over

666
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Speaker 8: the past three whark weeks, the.

667
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Speaker 10: United States military and our partners have been decimating Rand's

668
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 10: military capabilities with overwhelming firepower skill lethality enforced, and we're

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Speaker 10: destroying their ballistic missiles and drones programs, with launchers down

670
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Speaker 10: by more than ninety percent.

671
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Speaker 8: We're hitting their launchers.

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Speaker 10: At a level that nobody even thought of before ninety percent.

673
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Speaker 10: They can't launch them, and they don't have very many

674
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Speaker 10: of them because most of them have been annihilated. But

675
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Speaker 10: we've annihilated the defense industrial base, eliminating their navy.

676
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Speaker 8: That one hundred and fifty eight ships sat down. I

677
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 8: said to my people, why didn't.

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Speaker 10: You capture the ship? I said, were they good or not?

679
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Speaker 10: They said they were great, sir, So why didn't you

680
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Speaker 10: capture We could use them. They said, it's more fun

681
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Speaker 10: to put them at the bottom of the sea.

682
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Speaker 8: But they're not there anymore.

683
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Speaker 10: So we eliminated their navy peat right, and that's gone.

684
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Speaker 10: We eliminated their air force, We eliminated all of their

685
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Speaker 10: air defense, everything, We eliminated everything there is to eliminate,

686
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Speaker 10: and we eliminated them. We eliminated their leaders. We had

687
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Speaker 10: we had the first set of leaders.

688
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Speaker 8: They gone.

689
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Speaker 10: Then they met, eighty eight people met and it said,

690
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Speaker 10: I mean, it's said they couldn't have made a deal.

691
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Speaker 8: We could have made a deal with them a long

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Speaker 8: time ago.

693
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Speaker 10: Then the second set eighty eight people met to pick

694
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Speaker 10: a new leader, and they're now extinguished, and then they

695
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Speaker 10: meeting again.

696
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Speaker 8: But now nobody wants to be the leader.

697
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 10: It's one of the few political jobs that nobody wants

698
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:37,439
Speaker 10: anywhere in the world.

699
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 8: Nobody wants it.

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Speaker 4: So who did you make a deal with? You understand

701
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Speaker 4: I'm not mad. I'll tell you the moment where I

702
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 4: would lose my mind. If you tell me that a

703
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 4: deal is made that some connection to the Ayatola remains

704
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Speaker 4: in charge and the IRGC still exists, then I'll say,

705
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 4: what the hell are we doing?

706
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Speaker 5: Thirteen lives lost? What the for?

707
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Speaker 8: What? Oh?

708
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Speaker 5: Then there will be words. Absolutely Trump knows what he's doing.

709
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Speaker 4: If you're not going to ruin the regime and the

710
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Speaker 4: regime so it is ended for forever, then he didn't

711
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Speaker 4: do the job. Once you decide you're going to go in,

712
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 4: that's the goal, and everything else is remarkably stupid.

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Speaker 5: Well Tony, the goal.

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Speaker 4: Was to end any ability for them to have a

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Speaker 4: nuclear weapon. So we're okay with them still being able

716
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Speaker 4: to engage in terrorism because you know, I'm told by

717
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Speaker 4: the Tucker puppets and the so called intellectuals that the

718
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Speaker 4: Ayatola had a fatoi against making nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 5: That's what Joe Kent actually tried to say.

720
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Speaker 4: This guy from counter terrorism who resigned because the Israelis

721
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Speaker 4: are dragging us into war.

722
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Speaker 5: A year or so.

723
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Speaker 4: When you were ago, when you were running for Congress,

724
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Speaker 4: you were all about supporting the Israelis. Now all of

725
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 4: a sudden you realize there's money on the other side.

726
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Speaker 4: We see you, Joe Kent unimpressed. Oh the service that

727
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 4: you put to the country. Yeah, that was then someone

728
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 4: very aptly said that Benedict Arnold was an American hero

729
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 4: until he wasn't. Tucker Carlson was an incredibly important voice

730
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Speaker 4: until he wasn't. Did you know that Lucille Ball used

731
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Speaker 4: to be the queen of comedy.

732
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Speaker 5: There was a.

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Speaker 4: Time where a guy by the name of Andrew Dice

734
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Speaker 4: Clay was selling out Madison Square Garden. Things change, Those

735
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Speaker 4: people have changed. I don't mean Dice or the late

736
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Speaker 4: Lucille Ball. I certainly do mean Tucker for sure, on

737
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Speaker 4: every way, in every single way.

738
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Speaker 5: But these are the people who said this has.

739
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Speaker 4: Got a country going after a nuclear weapon's ridiculous. And

740
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Speaker 4: then they said, this country can't send missiles anywhere.

741
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Speaker 5: They can't send missiles a long distance.

742
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Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, they've purposely curtailed their missiles

743
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Speaker 4: so not to upset the world's community. They fired at

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Speaker 4: Diego Garcia. They fired at Diego Garcia, twenty five hundred

745
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 4: miles away. It's basically a base that's controlled by the

746
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Speaker 4: United States and the British twenty five hundred miles away,

747
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Speaker 4: and they fired missiles. One missile fell apart. Designing a

748
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Speaker 4: missile that can handle that many miles of travel at

749
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Speaker 4: that speed at those heights, it's not easy to do.

750
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Speaker 4: The other missile was shot down by a destroyer that

751
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Speaker 4: was stationed at Diego Garcia. You tell me we had

752
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Speaker 4: military assets ready to go just in case the Iranians

753
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Speaker 4: did something. Maybe we knew something, maybe we knew it

754
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Speaker 4: was possible. But now the world knows it's possible that they.

755
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 5: Were trying to do this. So they can do.

756
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Speaker 4: This twenty five hundred miles. I'm pretty sure that means

757
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Speaker 4: they can reach nearly the.

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Speaker 5: Whole of Europe.

759
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Speaker 4: And next time you see the Europeans counterwauling or moaning

760
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Speaker 4: or covetching about Greenland. Remember they go to bed every

761
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Speaker 4: night thanking God America's here and praying that Trump gets

762
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Speaker 4: his Greenland project. Oh they'll be furious and they'll claim

763
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Speaker 4: that they got him to do this to that, because

764
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Speaker 4: of course they want to look good for their people.

765
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Speaker 4: All politics are local. But they need the United States

766
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Speaker 4: controlling some part of Greenland because they need Golden Dome,

767
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Speaker 4: Golden Dome like Israel's Iron Dome.

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Speaker 5: That's Trump's next want. That's what Space Force is going

769
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Speaker 5: to do. That's what all this is put together for.

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Speaker 4: You have Greenland so you can keep tabs on China

771
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Speaker 4: and Russia, not just their comings and goings in the Arctic,

772
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Speaker 4: but also the travel of hypersonic weapons. Hypersonic missiles follow

773
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Speaker 4: the curvature of the earth as opposabilistic which move itself

774
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 4: into the atmosphere and then back down, which means you

775
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 4: have more time to see them.

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Speaker 5: Not true.

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Speaker 4: With hypersonics following the curvature of the earth, you have

778
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Speaker 4: much less reaction time, so you need to be in

779
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Speaker 4: the forward advanced places to be able to see the

780
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Speaker 4: missile coming to.

781
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Speaker 5: Then take it out.

782
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Speaker 4: And if we're there, that means that the most of Europe,

783
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Speaker 4: the majority of Europe, is going to be protected once

784
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 4: again by us. This time they're going to pay into it.

785
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Speaker 4: They better go to bed, thanking the good Lord.

786
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Speaker 5: We're there.

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Speaker 4: Those are the facts, all the facts. So when I

788
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Speaker 4: hear President Trump say that he has negotiated a deal

789
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Speaker 4: or is negotiating a deal, I do not know with whom,

790
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 4: because in his own words you just heard him, and yes,

791
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 4: he's in a facility where the sound, the acoustics are horrifying.

792
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Speaker 5: In his own.

793
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Speaker 4: Words, he's negotiating. But I don't know with whom, because

794
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Speaker 4: there is no one to negotiate with the objective is

795
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Speaker 4: to set up the conditions for the people to take over.

796
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Speaker 4: You don't trust me, okay. This was the interview that

797
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Speaker 4: Trey Yinst did with Prime Minister Benjamin Ye who Trey

798
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Speaker 4: Yanks is with Fox News. And what is it that

799
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Speaker 4: the Prime minister said, here are the goals?

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Speaker 13: What does victory look like in this campaign?

801
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Speaker 14: Well, we've defined two clear goals. One is to break

802
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Speaker 14: completely their nuclear program, break completely their missile program, break

803
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Speaker 14: completely their capacity to produce. The components for both of

804
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Speaker 14: these programs were well on our way and achieving it.

805
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Speaker 14: We've also set a goal of creating conditions for the

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Speaker 14: Ranian people to overthrow this tyranny that has tormented them

807
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Speaker 14: and made life miserable and is making life miserable for

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Speaker 14: the entire world.

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Speaker 4: That whole idea of we're going to set up the conditions.

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Speaker 5: Benjaminette, nowho, it's regime change. To say the words.

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Speaker 4: We're all here, we're all smart. It's too cute by half,

812
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Speaker 4: not interested. It's regime change. I'm down with it. Just

813
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Speaker 4: say the words. Now he can't say the words. But

814
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Speaker 4: as long as we all know what it is, As

815
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Speaker 4: long as we all know what it is. Meanwhile, President

816
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Speaker 4: Trump continues from Memphis, it's a.

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Speaker 10: Very dangerous jo. My job is dangerous too, but their

818
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 10: job is worse. In other words, we're systematically dismantling the

819
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Speaker 10: regime's ability to threaten America.

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Speaker 8: They're not threatening us anymore.

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Speaker 10: As commander in chief, is my sake with responsibility to

822
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Speaker 10: protect our country from all threats. For decades, Iran refused

823
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Speaker 10: every opportunity to renounce its nuclear ambitions, and in recent months,

824
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Speaker 10: its own negotiators brag to our representatives about having enough

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Speaker 10: material to make nuclear weapons and that was supposed to

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Speaker 10: deter me, but it didn't deter It made me more anxious,

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Speaker 10: and they just made it much more important.

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Speaker 8: This mission that we're all on together was much more important,

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Speaker 8: and we did it quicker.

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Speaker 10: The ram's missile capabilities were also growing so fast that

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Speaker 10: it would soon have become virtually impossible to stop them.

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Speaker 8: What's they have a missile? What's they have?

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Speaker 10: What they were building was incredible, and you got a

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Speaker 10: little glimpse of it by the fact that when they

835
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Speaker 10: came out they started shooting all of their neighbors. The

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Speaker 10: neighbors weren't fighting with them. They were getting along okay

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Speaker 10: with their neighbors. And I was surprised. Everybody was surprised.

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Speaker 10: And it actually worked in reverse because the name Bridge

839
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Speaker 10: then turned against them. Now, Iranas one more opportunity to

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Speaker 10: end its threats to America.

841
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Speaker 8: And our allies, and we hope they take it.

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Speaker 10: Either way, America and the entire world will soon be

843
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Speaker 10: much safer.

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Speaker 8: And good.

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Speaker 5: Again.

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Speaker 4: I don't know who he's negotiating with, and I think

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Speaker 4: that's a Keree question. But then again, all these statements

848
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Speaker 4: could all just be sub diffused, all just be cloud cover.

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Speaker 4: The USS Tripoli was heading to the area. More amphibious

850
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Speaker 4: warships were heading to the area. This to take carg Island.

851
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Speaker 4: Are we going to find out it's taken? And if

852
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Speaker 4: carg Island is taken, what else could be taken?

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Speaker 5: This Pentagon is very good at deception and all warfare's deception.

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Speaker 4: I can accept this question before us is do we

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Speaker 4: believe that there's any negotiation going on with some Iranian governments?

856
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,959
Speaker 4: And I say no, which means other actions have got

857
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Speaker 4: to be happening. Time will tell, we will watch. This

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Speaker 4: is Tony Kats today. So the video from mcguardia is

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Speaker 4: so freaking horrifying.

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Speaker 5: This is an accident that absolutely did not have to happen.

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Speaker 5: I'm it's there at the New York Post.

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Speaker 4: I am going to not share it here. Oh, I

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Speaker 4: know people will watch it just for the sake of

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Speaker 4: watching it.

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Speaker 8: Nah.

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Speaker 4: So here's what went down, Tony Katz Tony Kats today,

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Speaker 4: and I appreciate the chat room over on the YouTube

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Speaker 4: feed YouTube dot com slash Tony Kats. Be sure to subscribe.

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Speaker 4: Kind of breaking that part of this for me. So,

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Speaker 4: you have an Aeric Canada.

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Speaker 5: Jet that hit a.

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Speaker 4: Basically a firetruck that was responding to an issue with

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Speaker 4: another plane.

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Speaker 5: So when you.

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Speaker 4: First hear the story, you're like, the truck is crossing

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Speaker 4: a runway and the plane had landed from Montreal to

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Speaker 4: La Guardia there in New York and hits the truck.

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Speaker 4: It gets deeper. Clearance was granted for by air traffic

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Speaker 4: control for what's called truck one to cross the one

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Speaker 4: runway while they were responding to an emergency on the

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Speaker 4: other side of the airport. This was a United Airlines

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Speaker 4: flight with an odor on board, so the truck is

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Speaker 4: given clearance to go. Truck one stopped before this runway

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Speaker 4: and ask the tower for clearance to cross. They were

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Speaker 4: making sure they start crossing. The plane says, is letting

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Speaker 4: this or try.

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Speaker 5: To let this truck?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 4: Or maybe it's air traffic control, Hey there's a plane coming.

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Speaker 5: There's a plane coming boom.

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Speaker 4: Now, as the chatroom is explaining it, the airline was

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Speaker 4: ordered to stop.

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Speaker 5: How do you stop the plan? This is my question.

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Speaker 4: So it's the controller telling the truck to stop because

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Speaker 4: they see the plane coming. The Airic Canada plane was

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Speaker 4: giving clearance to land. It's the both pilots were killed.

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Speaker 4: Everybody else on the plane survived. And that plane was

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Speaker 4: ripped apart. It's an amazing sight. This is Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 4: Three more things Tony Katz. Tony Katz Today, guys, good

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Speaker 4: to be with you. Live streaming, live streaming the YouTube's

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Speaker 4: You can check it out for yourself. Just go to

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Speaker 4: YouTube dot com, slash Tony Kats, Twitter x Tony Kats Facebook.

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Speaker 5: Even though it stinks to high Heaven, Tony Katz Radio.

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Speaker 4: Check that out over there in Connecticut, the Democrats who

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Speaker 4: run Connecticut, and they have some pretty awful Democrats, and

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Speaker 4: I'll get to Richard Blumenthal in just a moment. The

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Speaker 4: Democrats have got some legislation. And this legislation says that

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Speaker 4: if you are recycling and you're cashing in more than

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Speaker 4: a thousand cans or bottles a day. I don't know

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Speaker 4: how long it takes to collect a thousand cans or bottles,

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Speaker 4: but neither here nor there.

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Speaker 5: If you are.

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Speaker 4: More than a thousand cans or bottles a day, you.

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Speaker 5: Need an ID.

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Speaker 4: I can't make that up. You know exactly what I'm

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Speaker 4: going to say. You need an ID to recycle in Connecticut.

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Speaker 4: But Connecticut senators they don't think you need an ID

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Speaker 4: to vote outside of pizza. I don't think Connecticut could

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Speaker 4: do much right, and I live in Indiana. You want

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Speaker 4: to talk about a messed up place. Honestly, it's kind

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Speaker 4: of an awesome place. It does have some very screwy politics,

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Speaker 4: and we have work to do. In Connecticut is far worse.

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Speaker 4: You can actually do business in Indiana. You know what,

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Speaker 4: there's not even a comparison. Come to the Midwest, Leave Connecticut,

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Speaker 4: long for the pizza, come live a better life. It's

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Speaker 4: SB two ninety nine, introduced by Democratic leaders in the

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Speaker 4: state legislature, passed by both chambers in late February and

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Speaker 4: signed by the governor, who's a Democrat in ed Lamont

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Speaker 4: in March.

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Speaker 5: Why is this important?

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Speaker 4: The issue here is that they have had people from

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Speaker 4: out of state take advantage of their higher return rate.

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Speaker 4: They do a ten cent return rate instead of let's

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Speaker 4: say a five cent return rate, and it was causing

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Speaker 4: the state to lose significant revenue.

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Speaker 5: Hold on.

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Speaker 4: So, first, you need an ID to recycle and not vote.

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Speaker 4: And the reason you need an ID to recycle is

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Speaker 4: because people who aren't from there, who aren't citizens, are

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Speaker 4: taking advantage of you. I'm sorry. How does one respond

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Speaker 4: to that? How does one respond to that without just

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Speaker 4: being befuddled at how somebody could be that embarrassingly dopey.

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Speaker 4: This is exactly why we want idea to vote, because

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Speaker 4: people who don't live here across the border and then

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Speaker 4: make life more difficult to try and take advantage of us.

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Speaker 5: It's really amazing.

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Speaker 4: It's really amazing, except well on brands for progressives when

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Speaker 4: they do it.

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Speaker 5: It's the most important thing in the world.

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Speaker 4: When you do it. How dare you do that? When

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Speaker 4: you do it? We have to look into this when

952
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Speaker 4: they do it, Why are always looking at us?

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Speaker 5: That's how they act.

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Speaker 4: Meanwhile, Senator Richard Blumenthal Connecticut a guy who lied about

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Speaker 4: his Vietnam service.

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Speaker 5: He's a liar. It's all, Richard Blumenthal is, it's all.

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Speaker 5: Will ever be a weak liar.

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Speaker 4: Learning that ICE agents would be in airports to help

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Speaker 4: with security, to help TSA, he wrote on x ICE

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Speaker 4: agents at airports will only aggravate delays and lines, disrupting checks,

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Speaker 4: interrogating travelers, dragging parents from children, detaining citizens, brutalizing families,

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Speaker 4: shooting and even killing. You think that ICE agents in

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Speaker 4: airports are going to shoot and kill people? What kind

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Speaker 4: of hyperbole? Nonsense? Is this, well, this is from the

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Speaker 4: liar Richard Blumenthal. This is just fear mongering at its

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Speaker 4: absolute best, or is it worst? I guess that's really

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Speaker 4: in the eye of the beholder. They're not shy about it.

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Speaker 4: There's no shame here. Lie about ice, lie about voter ID,

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Speaker 4: and then in your own state and demand voter ID.

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Speaker 4: That's something that is something. But this all brings us

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Speaker 4: to Tucker Carlson. Now you're gonna save me, Tony. Why

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Speaker 4: are we talking about Tucker? I share with you first,

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Speaker 4: never mind how wrong he has been about Iran and

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Speaker 4: how just obsessed.

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Speaker 5: Regarding Israel he has been.

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Speaker 4: I look at the people say, you know, Israel dragged

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Speaker 4: America into this war, and I just I recognize pathetic

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Speaker 4: that it is the nonsense of the argument. I'm not

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Speaker 4: interested in people trying to say to me, well, you know, Tony,

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Speaker 4: look at this. If you bring up the USS liberty,

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Speaker 4: there's nothing left to say. There has nothing to do

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Speaker 4: with what we're seeing right now at all. If you

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Speaker 4: bring up APAC, Katar spends billions and billions and billions

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Speaker 4: and billions more than a political action committee that's made

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Speaker 4: up of Americans. They're Americans So this idea, this very idea,

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Speaker 4: that it's all Israel all the time, and this is

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Speaker 4: just madness, embarrassing, pathetic, hateful, madness, pseudo intellectual at its best.

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Speaker 5: Once you take a look.

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Speaker 4: At things, you go, oh, okay, by the way, you

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Speaker 4: can still be opposed to funding for Israel or a

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Speaker 4: foreign aid or of course, go right ahead. Israel dragged

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Speaker 4: America into a fight with Iran.

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Speaker 5: Is just dumb.

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Speaker 4: And Tucker has been at the forefront of a just

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Speaker 4: dumb argument. But the other day he's being interviewed by

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Speaker 4: someone at The Economist and he's.

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Speaker 15: This, we can no longer be the sole author of

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Speaker 15: terms of commerce, of anything.

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Speaker 5: We have to share power with China. Of course, because

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Speaker 5: of their scale, we can.

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Speaker 4: Why in the world would I share power with China

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Speaker 4: for a moment? What a ridiculous, ridiculous thing to say,

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Speaker 4: What a foolish, silly thing to say. What exactly why

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Speaker 4: is he bringing this up? Why is he discussing this?

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Speaker 4: So I wanted to give you a little more context

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Speaker 4: because a lot of people are going to share that

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Speaker 4: little clip and say, oh my gosh, he's he's on

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Speaker 4: the side of the Chinese. Well, I think you need

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Speaker 4: a little more context. I think think that's very very important.

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Speaker 4: This is that little more context from a larger clip

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Speaker 4: that was put out by I leave the economist on TikTok.

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Speaker 5: The US is not going to defend and cannot defend Taiwan.

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Speaker 8: Now you should not defend it.

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Speaker 5: I should. I don't know something. I'm asking you to.

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Speaker 6: Lay out what you think.

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Speaker 5: Are coher.

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Speaker 15: I think we've reached the limits of our power, and

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Speaker 15: power has limits. Like that's another thing just to keep

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Speaker 15: in mind.

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Speaker 5: Power is not infinite. You can squander it and uh,

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Speaker 5: and we're in.

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Speaker 6: The process of what about Japan and Korea?

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Speaker 5: Oh man, it's hard.

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Speaker 15: I don't understand exactly how that's going to go at

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Speaker 15: all from an American perspective. But in the end, big

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Speaker 15: powers want to and get to control their regions. We

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Speaker 15: have something called them Innroe doctrine. This is another problem

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Speaker 15: I had with Russia. It's like Russia, of course, is

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Speaker 15: going to demand influence in Ukraine, and you can say

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Speaker 15: it's a sovereign country, they can't have any influence. There

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Speaker 15: be real big power wants to control, hopefully in a

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Speaker 15: non brutal, enlightened way, but they want some influence.

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Speaker 5: Over their neighbors.

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Speaker 15: We can no longer be the sole author of terms

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Speaker 15: of commerce of anything. We have to share power, of course,

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Speaker 15: because of their scale, and so there's got to be

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Speaker 15: a non destructive way.

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Speaker 5: To do this.

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Speaker 4: So now we have a little bit more context. If

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Speaker 4: you want to bring up the Monroe doctrine, which is

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Speaker 4: about thwarting European influence in the Western hemisphere, and say that,

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Speaker 4: as we have discussed here, there seems to be an

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Speaker 4: agreement that we will have the Western hemisphere and Chida

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Speaker 4: will have their thing and Russia will have their thing.

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Speaker 4: You could argue that that is very different than the

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Speaker 4: idea of shared power. Of course, it's a different thing

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Speaker 4: than shared power. Even the concept of shared power is

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Speaker 4: a leftist talking point. Any argument that starts with America

1049
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Speaker 4: on top isn't necessarily in our best interest is a

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Speaker 4: broken argument. It is our only interest. There is no

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Speaker 4: society that thrives with America not on top. Then, when

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Speaker 4: one discusses China, and remember this is just a larger

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Speaker 4: part of a larger interview, it needs to be noted

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Speaker 4: that if China was sticking to China, you could argue

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Speaker 4: that China gets to govern China And if you wanted

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Speaker 4: to argue that China had more sway because of size, dollars, etc.

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Speaker 5: Over parts of the Pacific Grim, you could make that argument.

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Speaker 4: For example, Russia saying that they want to have control

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Speaker 4: or at least a.

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Speaker 5: Say in things going on in Ukraine.

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Speaker 4: They can say that, but they took Georgia, they took Krimea,

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Speaker 4: or they took Crimea, I should say, and then they're

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Speaker 4: trying to take the eastern part of Ukraine by force?

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Speaker 5: Do we want that to happen? Do the Europeans want

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Speaker 5: that to happen?

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Speaker 4: Is that what is meant by influence the actual taking

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Speaker 4: of the land.

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Speaker 8: But let's.

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Speaker 4: Now at least go back to this conversation about China.

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Speaker 4: We have to share power with China? No, we don't.

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Speaker 4: If you want China to have influence over China, I

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Speaker 4: can fully understand them.

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Speaker 5: The problem is is that China has shown.

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Speaker 4: Through its words, well it's the Belton Road Initiative or

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Speaker 4: China twenty twenty five, all of these programs, that their

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Speaker 4: interest is not China, Their interest is not Pacific Grim hegemony,

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Speaker 4: rather worldwide power. Why do you think they push the

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Speaker 4: soybean trade in South America? Why do you think they've

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Speaker 4: engaged in such investments in African nations? It is about

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Speaker 4: worldwide power, and one cannot share power with an organization

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Speaker 4: like the Communist Chinese Party.

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Speaker 5: That wants to destroy you. How possibly.

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Speaker 4: Could anyone allegedly as smart as Tucker not make that

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Speaker 4: clear observation and engage that understanding that we're not talking

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Speaker 4: about equal parties here or equal powers here. We're talking

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Speaker 4: about very very ugly regimes in Russia and in China,

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Speaker 4: and their desire is not ours. And also we should

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Speaker 4: note that Tucker is thus proving that saying that Russia

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Speaker 4: was never an expansion of power was a lie, was

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Speaker 4: always a lie. Of course Putin has expansion of desires.

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Speaker 4: We would saying text on this show for two years now.

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Speaker 4: Whatever Tucker has decided to do to himself, I cannot

1093
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Speaker 4: help him. He's on his own. But his argument under

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Speaker 4: the most simple of scrutiny falls apart. The push against

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Speaker 4: American strength and might is a really bad push, and

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Speaker 4: not America first at all.

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Speaker 16: I'm Tony Katz, and let me be very clear, Democrats

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Speaker 16: will not surrender or cave in on to say that

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Speaker 16: because his everything, but that it is not securing our vote.

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Speaker 17: It is voter suppression in its clearest form. And for women,

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Speaker 17: women who are the highest vote have the.

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Speaker 5: Highest record of voting.

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Speaker 17: It's a target on them because the those who are married,

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Speaker 17: most of them will not have the same last name

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Speaker 17: on their birth certificate as on their driver's license. This

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Speaker 17: is a ploy to suppress the vote of everyone, and

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Speaker 17: especially women.

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Speaker 4: No, it's not representative Betty. No, it is not Joyce

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Speaker 4: Batty Or is it bd B E A T T.

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Speaker 5: Y out of Ohio.

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Speaker 4: Me. I'm Tony Katz, The Show's Tony Katz today. Man,

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Speaker 4: do they not want voter ID know how women's votes

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Speaker 4: will be suppressed? People of colors votes will be suppressed?

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Speaker 5: No, they won't.

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Speaker 4: Now, President Trump has said, I'm not going to make

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Speaker 4: a deal on DHS. I'm not going to make a

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Speaker 4: deal on any of that funding. No, no, no, no, no, I'm

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Speaker 4: not going to make any deal with Democrats until they

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Speaker 4: pass the Save Act.

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Speaker 5: They're going to shut it down. Nothing happening.

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Speaker 4: I won't sign anything until we passed the Save Act.

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Speaker 5: I don't believe he's gonna hold shoe to that. By

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Speaker 5: the way, but he's not wrong.

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Speaker 4: In that we need to ensure the protection of the vote,

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Speaker 4: those who are registered, making sure that they are them.

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Speaker 5: And those who are voting. That's that is a must.

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Speaker 5: That women are gonna be stop from voting.

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Speaker 4: It's just silly, a little extra paperwork for everybody, Okay.

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Speaker 4: And also I'm fine with and I did reach out

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Speaker 4: to via X to center Mike Lee, why don't we

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Speaker 4: pay for IDs no poll tax?

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Speaker 5: I'm in for that too. This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 1: Lie from vall Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 8: It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 4: So President Trump, after first saying I'm gonna bomb the

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Speaker 4: livid snot out of facilities in Iran if they don't

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Speaker 4: open the Strain of four Moves, is now saying, eh,

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Speaker 4: we got a deal. Well, we don't have a deal.

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Speaker 4: We've got a conversation. It'll lead to a deal. And

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Speaker 4: of course I make deals, It's all I do. So

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Speaker 4: if I'm making the deal, it'll be a good deal and.

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Speaker 5: Everybody will have to deal with it.

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Speaker 4: I'm a right, all, I am all right, Tony Katz,

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Speaker 4: Tony Katz today, Good to be with you.

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Speaker 5: This was President Trump just.

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Speaker 4: Earlier as he was getting ready to board Air Force

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Speaker 4: one on the way back to I don't know if

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Speaker 4: he's on the way back to d C or is

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Speaker 4: heading out to Memphis at this point.

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Speaker 9: Listen, these talks go well, and you I don't think

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Speaker 9: he's gonna be a club again. If the talks go well,

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Speaker 9: when you reach a ceasefire agreement with Iran, do you

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Speaker 9: believe Israel would abide by that agreement.

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Speaker 10: I think Israel will be very happy with what we have.

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Speaker 10: We just spoke to Israel a little while ago. I

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Speaker 10: think they'll be very happy. This will be peace for

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Speaker 10: Israel long term piece guaranteed piece if this happens, and

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Speaker 10: you know, I can't guarantee it, but I think it's

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Speaker 10: going to And my life is a deal. That's all

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Speaker 10: I do is deal is my whole life. I think

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Speaker 10: this is something that's going to happen.

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Speaker 5: And why wouldn't it happen?

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Speaker 10: So tomorrow morning, sometime their time, we were expected to

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Speaker 10: blow up their largest electric generating plants that costs over

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Speaker 10: ten billion.

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Speaker 8: Dollars to bill.

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Speaker 10: It's a very good one. There was no dirth of

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Speaker 10: money and one shot is gone, it collapses. Why would

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Speaker 10: they want that? So they called.

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Speaker 8: I didn't call.

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Speaker 10: They called they want to make a deal, and we

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Speaker 10: are very willing to make a deal.

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Speaker 8: It's got to be a good deal, and.

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Speaker 10: It's got to be no more wars, no more nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 10: They're not going to have nuclear weapons anymore. They're agreeing

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Speaker 10: to that. Any of that stuff.

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Speaker 8: There's no deal.

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Speaker 5: Who is they?

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Speaker 4: That's my question around with no more nuclear weapons fantastic,

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Speaker 4: Who is they? Because until the regime is gone and

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Speaker 4: the people create a government, who are we negotiating with?

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Speaker 4: This is the kind of stuff that drives me absolutely

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Speaker 4: positively mental.

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Speaker 5: The President had written just on they think this was

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Speaker 5: on Saturday.

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Speaker 4: If Iran doesn't fully open without threat the straight up

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Speaker 4: hor moves within forty eight hours from this exact point

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Speaker 4: in time, the United States of America will hit and

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Speaker 4: obliterate their various power plants, starting with the biggest one. First,

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Speaker 4: thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J.

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Speaker 5: Trump.

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Speaker 4: So he had written that in the evening, Saturday evening,

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Speaker 4: and so that would have been Monday at seven forty

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Speaker 4: four pm Eastern time.

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Speaker 5: That would have been the Okay, now we're taking out

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Speaker 5: these things.

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Speaker 4: Then he writes, I am pleased to report that the

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Speaker 4: United States of America and the country of Iran have

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Speaker 4: had over the last two days very good and productive

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Speaker 4: conversations regarding a complete and total resolution of our hostilities

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Speaker 4: in the Middle East. Based on the tenor and tone

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Speaker 4: of these in depth, detailed and constructive conversations, which will

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Speaker 4: continue throughout the week, I've instructed the Department of War

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Speaker 4: to postpone any and all military strikes against Iranian power

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Speaker 4: plants and energy infrastructure for a five day period, subject

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Speaker 4: to the success of the ongoing meetings and discussions.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for your attention to this matter. President and

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Speaker 5: Donald J. Trump.

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Speaker 4: Now someone can notice that he said this on a

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Speaker 4: Monday and is giving it five days. So if there's

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Speaker 4: going to be a strike, it won't affect the markets,

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Speaker 4: because the markets went up. I mean the futures were

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Speaker 4: up over seven hundred. There was a moment today where

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Speaker 4: the Dow was over nine hundred. You know, once the

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Speaker 4: market opens, who knows where it's going to close. The

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Speaker 4: Nasdaq was over four hundred. All they're thrilled and a

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Speaker 4: war fan, fantastic, terrific, wonderful.

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Speaker 5: No one's answering my question, who are you talking to? What?

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Speaker 5: What country of Iran are you? What deal can be

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Speaker 5: made and who with whom are you making it? That's

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Speaker 5: my question.

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Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not even angry. I just don't understand

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Speaker 4: how this is supposed to work. And then on the uranium,

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Speaker 4: you want to get the uranium, how are you going

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Speaker 4: to get the.

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Speaker 8: In's very easy.

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Speaker 10: If we have a deal with them, we're going down

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Speaker 10: and we'll take it ourselves.

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Speaker 5: Oh is that right? We're just gonna take it ourselves.

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Speaker 5: So now are we talking about setting in the I

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Speaker 5: A e A. Or we talk about setting in troops?

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Speaker 5: How do we take it ourselves?

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Speaker 4: So now we're going to guarantee the safety of Americans

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Speaker 4: going into grab this stuff. Listen to me carefully. I

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Speaker 4: favor the end of the regime. I admit that it's

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Speaker 4: a regime change war, and I don't care. Good get

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Speaker 4: rid of these low lifes. Excellent, bra Visimo, count me in.

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Speaker 4: But when I hear this, I don't know what to

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Speaker 4: make of it. I don't know how I'm supposed to

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Speaker 4: connect the dots on it. I don't know why it

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Speaker 4: is I'm supposed to think that the deal was made,

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Speaker 4: because I still don't know with whom the deal was made.

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Speaker 4: I thought the statement today was just nothing more than

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Speaker 4: a part of the propaganda war. And I still do

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Speaker 4: by the way I think with everything, and maybe this

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Speaker 4: is a good place for us to be as we

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Speaker 4: go forward. Here we do not know what is until

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Speaker 4: the thing actually happens. I think things get said. Who

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Speaker 4: knows what's actually happening behind the scenes. I have no

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Speaker 4: idea who the president is negotiating with. It is very possible.

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Speaker 4: He made the statement today about giving five days, so

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Speaker 4: you wanted the markets to relax and everyone to relax.

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Speaker 5: Everything's possible.

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Speaker 4: But I'm here to tell you if this is over

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Speaker 4: and there's some part of the Ayatola esque regime in power,

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Speaker 4: the IERGC is still in power, this was a failure. Oh,

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Speaker 4: the president can say anything he wants and he will,

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Speaker 4: and the Israelis can say anything they want and they will.

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Speaker 4: Just telling you where I'm at when you tell me

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Speaker 4: you're negotiating, when you tell me there's a conversation, I

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Speaker 4: just don't know with whom it would have to be

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Speaker 4: with somebody you trust not to do the other thing

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Speaker 4: where you're really keeping an eye on these things, So

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Speaker 4: who is that, Because if they're any way connected to

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Speaker 4: the regime of the IRGC, there is no trust that's possible.

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Speaker 4: So that's why I think, with all of this a breath,

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Speaker 4: a beat, let's wait to see what happens, Let's wait

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Speaker 4: to see what is real, and I will continue to

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Speaker 4: make my claim that if this regime is in any

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Speaker 4: way still there, we didn't do our job.

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Speaker 5: This is Tony Katz today. So in the midst of

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Speaker 5: everything we're doing.

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Speaker 4: In the news cycle, right in the midst of what

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Speaker 4: we're dealing with right now, whether it's Iran, whether it's

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Speaker 4: oil prices, whether it's DHS funding, whether it's the insanity

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Speaker 4: of the political left somehow still thinking that men can

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Speaker 4: be women or women could be men. What is social media?

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Speaker 4: Are we all controlled by the bots? Or is there

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Speaker 4: an actual push for some of the insanity we see?

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Speaker 4: There is a loss of the history lesson how did

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Speaker 4: we get to where we are? And this is not

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Speaker 4: just true of things regarding Trump, things regarding social media.

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Speaker 4: There are these larger scale things that have taken place

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Speaker 4: of a small discussion but very very large effect.

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Speaker 5: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to be here, Good

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Speaker 5: to be with you.

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Speaker 4: John Bachwin joins me right now. He is the host

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Speaker 4: of John Bachwin now on news Max. He is one

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Speaker 4: of the ogs over there since two thousand and eleven,

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Speaker 4: the og and his new book Turning Point, How Ronald

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Speaker 4: Reagan liberated Grenada and won the Cold War?

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Speaker 5: Who in the world is writing books about Grenada?

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Speaker 4: But you find out this is a book about Ronald

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Speaker 4: Reagan and Margaret Thatcher and really what conservatives like myself

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Speaker 4: view as this era of conservatism where there was a philosophy,

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Speaker 4: there were rules, there was a standard, and it wasn't

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Speaker 4: about being loved, it was about being right. Start with,

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Speaker 4: how in the world you decided that this was something

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Speaker 4: that needed a book.

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Speaker 13: Hey, Tony, how are you? And hello to your audience. Well,

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Speaker 13: this started as a conversation over dinner I was having

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Speaker 13: with a man named shal Russo, who's reference in the book.

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Speaker 13: He was a longtime friend of Ronald Reagan's and we

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Speaker 13: were having a conversation about the fact that Ronald Reagan

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Speaker 13: was so cool and calm and collected, especially after he

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Speaker 13: got shot. He was just operating on a different plane.

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Speaker 13: He didn't get dragged into petty political fights like most

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Speaker 13: people did. He just operated a book of all of that,

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Speaker 13: and that was the one time that sal Russo told

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Speaker 13: me he saw Reagan where he was freaking out was

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Speaker 13: the day after he had authorized Operation Urgent Fury, and

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Speaker 13: that was because Reagan was deeply concerned about what it

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Speaker 13: had done to his relationship with Margaret Thatcher. Grenada an

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Speaker 13: independent country, yes, but also part of the British Commonwealth,

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Speaker 13: and the United States had made a decision, much like

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Speaker 13: the Trump administration made the decision to not tell anyone

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Speaker 13: about their going into Venezuela, that the Reagan administration didn't

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Speaker 13: tell a soul, even the British Commonwealth about their decision

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Speaker 13: to authorize Urgent Fury and go into Grenada.

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Speaker 4: So let's talk a little bit about Grenada. Grenada is

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Speaker 4: an island in the Caribbean. It's off the coast of Venezuela.

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Speaker 4: It's right there with Saint Lucia Martinique. Barbados is to

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Speaker 4: the east. Turned out in Tobago is to the south.

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Speaker 5: It's an island. That's it's a blip. If you missed it,

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Speaker 5: you missed it.

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Speaker 4: What was the significance of Grenada to the British and

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Speaker 4: to us.

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Speaker 13: Well, it was significant because of its location exactly where

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Speaker 13: you described you as a great job of describing where

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Speaker 13: it is, and the Grenadian government wanted to build a

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Speaker 13: massive runway on the tiny island, and obstensively they were

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Speaker 13: doing this because they wanted to attract tourism to the island.

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Speaker 13: But the real reason they were doing it is because

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Speaker 13: it would have given the Soviets and the Cubans a

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Speaker 13: very critical military outposts where they could fly their heavy

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Speaker 13: cargo planes in and out of Grenada without the same

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Speaker 13: type of scrutiny that they would if they were flying

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Speaker 13: it into mainland South America or into Cuba, which both

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Speaker 13: were heavily monitored by the United States. So that was

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Speaker 13: one of the main reasons that it first came on

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Speaker 13: the radar, is that the United States got wind of

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Speaker 13: really what was a military air base being built on

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Speaker 13: this tiny island that would have benefited the Soviets and

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Speaker 13: the Cubans.

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Speaker 4: Talking to you John Bachman, he's the host of John

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Speaker 4: Bachman Now on Newsmax and the author of Turning Point

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Speaker 4: How Reagan Liberated Grenada and won the Cold War, which

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Speaker 4: is a very interesting way to try, you know, these

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Speaker 4: dominoes falling.

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Speaker 5: But before we get maybe a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Further on the war front, you bring up Margaret Thatcher

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Speaker 4: and the relationship with Margaret Thatcher.

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Speaker 5: Dig in a little bit deeper. How did the moves

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Speaker 5: in Grenada.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about nineteen eighty three here, so we're forty

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Speaker 4: three years removed from this, How did those moves affect

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Speaker 4: the relationship about regarding what she was not told and

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Speaker 4: then how it went.

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Speaker 5: After she was.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, she was devastated by the fact that Reagan did

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Speaker 13: not tell her. And there's a recording of the phone

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Speaker 13: call that Reagan made to Margaret Thatcher. She quickly forgave him,

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Speaker 13: but what it was caused a lot of political turmoil

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Speaker 13: for Margaret Thatcher inside the UK when she was trying

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Speaker 13: to develop this relationship, you know, leading the Conservative Party

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Speaker 13: in the UK at a time when they were trying

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Speaker 13: to shrug off their the Labor Party's mistakes and all

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Speaker 13: the stagnation that they were dealing with there, Margaret Thatcher

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Speaker 13: faced a lot of political ridicule because she was not

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Speaker 13: given the heads up by her supposed political soulmate from

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Speaker 13: the United States. There's a lot of questions whether or

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Speaker 13: not she had damaged the relationship with the United States

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Speaker 13: as a result of this, but of course she was

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Speaker 13: able to move past that with President Reagan, and their

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Speaker 13: partnership is also explored in this this book. You know,

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Speaker 13: it's it's safe to say that both relied heavily on

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Speaker 13: each other to fight back against communism, and you couldn't

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Speaker 13: they couldn't have done it without each other.

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Speaker 4: Of this, there's no question, and I wholeheartedly agree. But

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Speaker 4: the issues that it gave to Margaret Thatcher. You know,

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Speaker 4: I take a look at the fact that there're some

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Speaker 4: European nations and they're being questioned on how come they're

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Speaker 4: not being more supportive of what's happening with Iran and

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Speaker 4: why aren't they going to help? And my answer has

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Speaker 4: been nobody wants to see being, you know, follow the leader,

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Speaker 4: being the second guy there, the last girl asked to

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Speaker 4: the dance.

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Speaker 5: If you're going to be part of.

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Speaker 4: Some operation to rid the world of the largest state

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Speaker 4: sponsor of.

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Speaker 5: Terror, you want to be there when.

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Speaker 4: It happened, so you can be the guy who looks

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Speaker 4: strong as opposed to the person who came after all

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Speaker 4: the work was done and.

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Speaker 5: You're there basically just to sweep up.

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Speaker 4: Was that the kind of take that Margaret Thatcher was

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Speaker 4: dealing with with Parliament once this got unveiled.

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Speaker 13: Absolutely, and there are so many similarities between how the

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Speaker 13: global community responded to Operation Urgent Fury and how the

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Speaker 13: global community is responding to Operation Ethic Fury. There are

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Speaker 13: a lot of parallels there. The European community didn't like it,

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Speaker 13: and all of the liberals inside the UK didn't like it.

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Speaker 13: The media in the United States didn't like it. They

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Speaker 13: accused Reagan people. The reason why this story is underreported

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Speaker 13: is because it happened just two and three days after

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Speaker 13: the Beirut Marine Barracks bombing in Lebanon, and Ronald Reagan

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Speaker 13: had to make a decision. There was a viral photo

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Speaker 13: that going around on social media this week of a

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Speaker 13: bunch of Secret Service agents wearing navy blazers and khaki

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Speaker 13: pants and boat shoes at Augusta National Golf Club. This

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Speaker 13: is actually where Ronald Reagan made the decision to both

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Speaker 13: respond to the Marine Barracks bombings in Beirut and to

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Speaker 13: what happened in Grenada, which and on top of what

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Speaker 13: I mentioned before with the runway that was being constructed there,

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Speaker 13: there were about six hundred American medical students on the island.

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Speaker 13: There's a medical school there called Saint George's Medical School

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Speaker 13: and the initial communist dictator who took over from the

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Speaker 13: Governor General and the democratic way of running Grenada, a

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Speaker 13: guy named Maurice Bishop. He was actually murdered by a

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Speaker 13: more radical Marxist on the island, the guy who once

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Speaker 13: was his friend. But when that cou took place of

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Speaker 13: the violent cup of Maurice Bushop, the American medical students

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Speaker 13: were put on a curfew, a shoot on site curfew,

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Speaker 13: and told that they violated the curfew they would be killed,

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Speaker 13: And that happened just a couple of days after the

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Speaker 13: Marine Barracks bombing. Ronald Reagan made the decision then to

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Speaker 13: go in rescue the American medical students, restore democracy, and

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Speaker 13: send the message to the entire communist world that we

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Speaker 13: were done tolerating the expansion of communism in the Western Hemisphere.

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Speaker 4: Talking to John Bachman the book Turning Point, how Reagan

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Speaker 4: liberated Grenada and won the Cold War, walk me through

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Speaker 4: after effects here, because the you know, the question is

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Speaker 4: what we learned from and how does it change things?

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Speaker 4: And I think that we can go through our own

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Speaker 4: basic histories right, not necessarily being historians and having these

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Speaker 4: in depth detailed understandings of specific instances like you were

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Speaker 4: able to do as you dug in on this book, which,

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Speaker 4: by the way, the book turning point, How Reagan liberated

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Speaker 4: Grenada and won the Cold War? Available at Amazon dot

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Speaker 4: Com or wherever fine books are sold.

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Speaker 5: What is the lesson here?

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Speaker 4: What is it that the Pentagon, that military leaders, that

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01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:36,799
Speaker 4: analysts took into.

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01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 5: Effect from what took place? And how has it affected

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Speaker 5: foreign policy going forward?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean Grenada was viewed mostly as a failure

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01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 13: the way it was portrayed in the media that we

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Speaker 13: lost nineteen American service members.

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Speaker 8: But the big takeaway and.

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Speaker 13: Why it ultimately is looked at as a success, is

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Speaker 13: how the Grenadian people feel about the United States coming

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01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:02,839
Speaker 13: in and liberating their island from communism. They still celebrate

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01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:06,639
Speaker 13: this every year on October twenty fifth as their Thanksgiving Day,

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01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:09,520
Speaker 13: and that is the day that they were liberated from communists.

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Speaker 13: They still that is the I think the best way

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01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 13: to measure the success of the operation. Now we have

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01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 13: been taught Tony, basically our whole entire adult lives that

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01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 13: there are only two choices when it comes to military engagements.

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01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 13: That is one, don't do it at all. The isolationists

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Speaker 13: theory which has permeated through the Republican Party and is

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Speaker 13: we know from history is not the best way to proceed.

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Speaker 13: And then what we also saw in our lifetimes was

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Speaker 13: these prolonged, decades long conflicts Iraq and Afghanistan where we

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01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 13: are in forever wars. What Grenada teaches us is that

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01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 13: there is a third way. There is a limited military engagement.

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Speaker 13: You don't establish a occupying force. You turn the island

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Speaker 13: back over to its people, You allow them to conduct election,

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01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 13: and then you get out. You don't have these long

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Speaker 13: hearts and minds campaigns that have not proven successful. You

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Speaker 13: think you can add Vietnam into the mix as well,

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Speaker 13: and I think that's what we might be seeing developed

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Speaker 13: with President Trump specifically, when you talk about Venezuela and

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Speaker 13: the fact that they went in there black bag Nicholas

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Speaker 13: Maduro got him out of there and now are able

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Speaker 13: to run things the way they are. I think they

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Speaker 13: need to make more changes. It's really hard for a

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Speaker 13: lot of the Venezuelan people to accept Delsea Rodriguez as

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Speaker 13: the president of that country, considering she was right there

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01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 13: with Nicholas Maduro doing everything horrible that he did. But

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Speaker 13: we don't have an occupying force in Venezuela. That's not

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01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 13: going to turn into Iraq. Iran is obviously a little

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01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 13: bit more complicated right now, but it doesn't appear like

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01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 13: that's going to turn into an Iraq or in Afghanistan either.

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01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 13: And Grenada wasn't that certainly a much smaller scale, of course,

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Speaker 13: but still it was intense conflict and we did not

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Speaker 13: turn it into a forever war. So that is the takeaway.

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Speaker 13: There is a third option available for the US military.

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Speaker 5: John Bachman.

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Speaker 4: The book is Turning Point, How Reagan Liberated Grenada and

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Speaker 4: One the Cold War. You can find that at Amazon

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01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 4: dot com wherever fine books are sold. Catch him noon

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Speaker 4: every Monday through Friday. On the end too over there

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Speaker 4: at Newsmax. John, appreciate you as always, Thanks for taking

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Speaker 4: the time.

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Speaker 13: Always great and to talk to you, Tony and look

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Speaker 13: forward to having.

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Speaker 5: You on the show since or coming up on Tony Katz.

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Speaker 13: This is Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 5: Like you, you know what I should say.

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Speaker 4: I think like you, I believe in the United States

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Speaker 4: removing itself from the United Nations.

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Speaker 5: Tony Kats Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 4: Maybe you don't, Maybe you disagree I don't want to

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01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 4: assume these things because that's just rude.

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01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 5: And then there's a whole expression you're supposed to use.

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01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 4: And I think, though we may be generally aligned, that

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01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 4: the United Nations provides no value. And part of the

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Speaker 4: no value it provides is based on two things.

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Speaker 5: Number one, the NonStop.

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Speaker 4: Commitment of money to an organization that hates us and

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01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:15,520
Speaker 4: hates Western civilization.

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01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:18,680
Speaker 5: We pay them.

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01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 4: To push policies, ideas, and philosophies that are counter to

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01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:25,360
Speaker 4: what it is that has made us so strong and

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01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 4: so great that we can afford to give all this

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01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 4: money to them. They're quite literally biting the hand that

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01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:35,640
Speaker 4: feeds them for some radical progressive ideology.

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Speaker 5: And they've never met a desk spot. They don't love.

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Speaker 4: The groups and organizations and ideas that they support are

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01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:47,799
Speaker 4: so horrifying. Why would you want to work with these people?

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01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 4: That goes to the old adage you keep your.

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01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 5: Friends close, keep your enemies closer.

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Speaker 10: You know it.

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01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 4: Sometimes they can go sit in the other room, Sometimes

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01:32:58,000 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 4: they can go sit in another building.

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Speaker 5: And I don't think.

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Speaker 4: We need all this real estate in New York to

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Speaker 4: let these people sit in. I think we should rethink

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Speaker 4: the positioning now do I oppose some level of organization

1530
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:15,400
Speaker 4: where nations get together and talk and try and work

1531
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 4: out differences. No, as a concept, whether it's the League

1532
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:24,280
Speaker 4: of Nations or the United Nations, I don't oppose the idea.

1533
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 4: I oppose the thinking that somehow this means we are

1534
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 4: under thumb, or they we owe something special, or that

1535
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 4: we should change who we are as a people as

1536
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:38,200
Speaker 4: a nation because of these other nations.

1537
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 5: Everyone should live their lives.

1538
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:42,639
Speaker 4: Let's talk about some things that we could do together

1539
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 4: in some ways that we could be of service to

1540
01:33:44,120 --> 01:33:48,639
Speaker 4: one another. Calm down conflicts, prevent them before they start,

1541
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 4: help organize or engage in trade. Maybe you will come

1542
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:55,719
Speaker 4: to the realization that this isn't needed. Everyone Just be cool, honey, bunny,

1543
01:33:56,240 --> 01:34:01,559
Speaker 4: just be normal. But this spending of money that we

1544
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:07,839
Speaker 4: spend to be part of the United Nations to only

1545
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 4: have the UN hate US is just out of control.

1546
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:18,839
Speaker 4: The US, by the way, was assessed twenty two percent

1547
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 4: of the UN regular budget in twenty twenty five. Their

1548
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:29,720
Speaker 4: budget three point five billion US eight hundred and twenty million. Nah, all,

1549
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 4: we could do a lot of work with the eight

1550
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:34,639
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty million. How many nurses could we pay

1551
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:36,400
Speaker 4: off their student loan debt.

1552
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 5: You noticed that I always go to the nurses first.

1553
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 4: The other day, when I was talking about the fraud

1554
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:47,880
Speaker 4: that we're all engaged with across the country and the

1555
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:50,720
Speaker 4: amount being paid out to these fraudsters who need to

1556
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:55,200
Speaker 4: be in jail or worse, I said, you would never

1557
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:57,640
Speaker 4: have a homeless veteran again, and then I brought up

1558
01:34:57,640 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 4: the nurses. But I always seem to default to the nurse.

1559
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 4: Eight hundred and twenty million a year, what nursing debt

1560
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 4: would you have you work for X number of years

1561
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:13,599
Speaker 4: in an urban or a rural or or we picked

1562
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:15,479
Speaker 4: the place, we pick the area that needs nurses.

1563
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 5: We wipe the we wipe the debt clean. Absolutely it would.

1564
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 4: I would argue the best, the second best spending of

1565
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 4: the money we could possibly do, the first best paydown

1566
01:35:26,120 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 4: the debt. But I think that having nurses and not

1567
01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:32,559
Speaker 4: having them worry about debt, and having them in places

1568
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:36,240
Speaker 4: where they are well needed, and that would be of

1569
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:39,600
Speaker 4: huge consequence to a positive to the nation, to the

1570
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:40,640
Speaker 4: nation's welfare.

1571
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 5: But certainly it's not to the UN at eight.

1572
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 4: Hundred and twenty million dollars, especially when the UN is

1573
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:53,840
Speaker 4: doing things like this. It is from news dot UN

1574
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 4: dot org and I saw somebody mention this.

1575
01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:58,679
Speaker 5: I think it was in a social media feed.

1576
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 4: I forget who's UN News Global Perspective, Human Stories and

1577
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:09,440
Speaker 4: the story was from March nineteenth, amid deepening crisis in Palestine,

1578
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 4: girls face rising risks in a mounting mental health emergency.

1579
01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:19,559
Speaker 4: First things first, where the hell is Palestine? There is

1580
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:24,519
Speaker 4: no Palestine, it doesn't exist. It was a reference to

1581
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 4: a region. There was no country. Dear Lord. The Palestinian

1582
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 4: people aren't even Palestinian. It's a name Yasir Arafact gave

1583
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:31,800
Speaker 4: to them.

1584
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 5: It's not real. Stop it.

1585
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 4: Deepening crisis in Palestine. That alone, goodbye, done, finished, complete,

1586
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:46,200
Speaker 4: have a nice day.

1587
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:48,320
Speaker 5: But the story.

1588
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 4: Discusses what young girls are dealing with because of what

1589
01:36:54,439 --> 01:37:00,040
Speaker 4: has taken place in Gaza. According to a pro p

1590
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 4: officer for the UN Agency for Sexual and Reproductive Health,

1591
01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 4: again we need to drop the UN We have more

1592
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:11,400
Speaker 4: than one million children in Gaza who need mental health

1593
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 4: and psychosocial support services.

1594
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:15,679
Speaker 5: Well that's a good.

1595
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:17,599
Speaker 4: Way to say, yes, you have to keep funding us

1596
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:20,320
Speaker 4: so we can keep having a job. We'll never get

1597
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 4: anything done, there will be no result that comes from it.

1598
01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 4: But as long as we have a job and we

1599
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 4: could say we're doing these good things that no one

1600
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:31,800
Speaker 4: could actually prove. Okay, fine, I mean if we want

1601
01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:34,880
Speaker 4: to discuss how the grift works. Now you say to me, Tony,

1602
01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:37,200
Speaker 4: you don't think we've got the girls have a problem

1603
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:39,240
Speaker 4: in Gaza. I'll say to you, the girls have a

1604
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:43,720
Speaker 4: huge problem in Gaza, and it's called UMAs, and then

1605
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:48,640
Speaker 4: it'll be a radical Islamist. But the idea that the

1606
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 4: UN says this thing, oh my gosh, we need to

1607
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 4: put millions of dollars to this. No, no, no, we don't.

1608
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:59,759
Speaker 4: I don't believe their number either, Son, six percent of children,

1609
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:03,439
Speaker 4: I feel that death is imminent. This reflects the depth

1610
01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:05,639
Speaker 4: of fear and trauma they experienced daily.

1611
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:09,639
Speaker 5: I don't deny that there's a trauma that they experienced daily.

1612
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:10,559
Speaker 5: I think that.

1613
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 4: Trauma goes away when Hamas is obliterated, gone in, every

1614
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:17,760
Speaker 4: member dead, and then when they don't.

1615
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:19,280
Speaker 5: Devote for terrorists. Now you say to me, Tony, we're

1616
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:20,960
Speaker 5: talking about children. I hear you.

1617
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:24,920
Speaker 4: I understand what you're saying. Maybe their parents should love

1618
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:29,120
Speaker 4: them more. You think I'm being harsh. I think I'm

1619
01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:34,640
Speaker 4: delivering the proper critique of the situation. They live in

1620
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:38,760
Speaker 4: a hellscape. They live in their own prison because their

1621
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:42,879
Speaker 4: parents and their grandparents and their great grandparents maybe supported

1622
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:46,639
Speaker 4: a terrorist organization and said, let's give up what could

1623
01:38:46,720 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 4: be a real life to these monsters. And then they

1624
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 4: proved on October seven to twenty twenty three that many

1625
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 4: of them were the same monsters.

1626
01:38:58,439 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 5: So they feel that death is imminent.

1627
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 4: Sixty one percent suffer from post traumatic stress disorder, thirty

1628
01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:08,320
Speaker 4: eight percent from depression, forty one percent from anxiety. One

1629
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 4: in five adults contemplate suicide almost daily. I don't actually

1630
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 4: deny that that is true. Then it gets into something horrifying,

1631
01:39:19,160 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 4: and you say to me, that wasn't horrifying. Oh, I

1632
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 4: wouldn't be sharing this with you if it wasn't really

1633
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 4: something to dig into, because it's a great example of

1634
01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:32,720
Speaker 4: not only the madness of the UN, the broken of

1635
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:39,760
Speaker 4: the UN, this very idea of referring to Gaza as Palestine,

1636
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:42,639
Speaker 4: the very or they referring to Israels Palestine because they're

1637
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 4: trying to wipe Israel off the map, in which case,

1638
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:47,040
Speaker 4: screw them again, get rid of the UN. And then

1639
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:49,679
Speaker 4: this idea of one million children who need mental health

1640
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:55,640
Speaker 4: and psychosocial support services destroy hamas less kids will need

1641
01:39:55,680 --> 01:40:00,759
Speaker 4: help give them a life, they write. Within in this crisis,

1642
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:04,360
Speaker 4: girls are among the most vulnerable in Gaza.

1643
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:09,320
Speaker 5: Child marriage. Yeah, maybe I should have given better warning.

1644
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:14,720
Speaker 4: Child marriage, they write, which was previously on the decline,

1645
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:18,840
Speaker 4: has reseurved sharply. Rates have fallen from twenty five point

1646
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:21,839
Speaker 4: five percent in two thousand and nine. Oh my god,

1647
01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:27,200
Speaker 4: one fourth of all girls were married off. And we're

1648
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:29,240
Speaker 4: talking about children, We're talking about eleven year olds. I

1649
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:31,639
Speaker 4: just want to make sure we understand what it is

1650
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 4: what we're talking about here. We're talking about fourteen year

1651
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:38,400
Speaker 4: olds twenty five point five percent in two thousand and

1652
01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:40,599
Speaker 4: nine to eleven percent in two thousand and two.

1653
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:42,280
Speaker 5: And now it's on the rise.

1654
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:45,400
Speaker 4: And that a study found that seventy one percent of

1655
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:50,879
Speaker 4: respondents in Gaza reported increased pressure to marry girls under eighteen.

1656
01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:53,400
Speaker 5: And they took a look.

1657
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:56,920
Speaker 4: More than four hundred marriage licenses were issued in a

1658
01:40:56,960 --> 01:40:57,960
Speaker 4: short monitoring period.

1659
01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:00,360
Speaker 5: They don't see the period for girls.

1660
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:04,880
Speaker 4: Age fourteen to sixteen in emergency courts, but the figures

1661
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:07,840
Speaker 4: are likely underreported.

1662
01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:09,120
Speaker 5: And why is this happening?

1663
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:15,760
Speaker 4: Some families see marriage as a survival strategy amid displacement, poverty,

1664
01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:18,160
Speaker 4: and insecurity.

1665
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 5: That's horrifying. Child marriage is horrifying.

1666
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 4: The sexual abuse, the rape of fourteen year olds is

1667
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:32,160
Speaker 4: not something we're supposed to condone, but the un kind.

1668
01:41:31,960 --> 01:41:32,719
Speaker 5: Of is here.

1669
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:36,599
Speaker 4: Well, they see it as a survival strategy, so therefore

1670
01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 4: it's okay. Now, a lot of people stopped at that

1671
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:44,600
Speaker 4: in this kind of synopsis story here, Allow me to

1672
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:46,599
Speaker 4: go a little bit further, make sure I'm giving the

1673
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:52,120
Speaker 4: full story. They write that the consequences are severe. Twenty

1674
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:57,479
Speaker 4: twenty five, approximately ten percent of newly registered presidencies in

1675
01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:04,200
Speaker 4: Gaza newly registered pregnancies in Gaza. We're among adolescent girls.

1676
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:09,240
Speaker 4: Access to healthcare shrinking. Only fifteen percent of health facilities

1677
01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:12,920
Speaker 4: in Gaza are currently able to provide emergency, obstetric and

1678
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:17,639
Speaker 4: neonatal services, increasing the risk and complications for young mothers

1679
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:22,479
Speaker 4: and their babies. And then some evidence suggests that sixty

1680
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:25,519
Speaker 4: three percent of girls married at a young age have

1681
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:29,759
Speaker 4: experienced physical, psychological, or sexual violence.

1682
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:33,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have no doubt.

1683
01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:41,640
Speaker 4: So they report that this idea creates a massive issue.

1684
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:48,400
Speaker 4: It's a horrifying life. Children getting pregnant, not access to

1685
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:50,679
Speaker 4: the kind of care that they need, and the girls

1686
01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:56,320
Speaker 4: are getting raped on the regular. So is the UN

1687
01:42:56,400 --> 01:43:02,479
Speaker 4: saying don't do this? Is the UN when discussing how

1688
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:06,679
Speaker 4: not to do this? How do they write it that

1689
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:10,040
Speaker 4: they have expanded support services. The agency has reopened and

1690
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:13,360
Speaker 4: supported more than thirty five safe spaces for women and girls,

1691
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:19,080
Speaker 4: providing case management and multi sexual responses to gender based violence.

1692
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 5: The it's not even a statement.

1693
01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:28,160
Speaker 4: More than one h one hundred and twenty thousand more

1694
01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:31,679
Speaker 4: than one hundred and twenty thousand dignity and hygiene kits

1695
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:37,120
Speaker 4: have been distributed and across Palestine, over fifteen multipurpose youth

1696
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:42,360
Speaker 4: centers are operating, with eleven dedicated to girls. A couple

1697
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:46,200
Speaker 4: things here, First, still this thing about Palestine. Secondly, what

1698
01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:48,760
Speaker 4: the heck is a multipurpose youth center and how are

1699
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 4: the girls supposed to go there if they're basically the

1700
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:55,160
Speaker 4: property of these men sexually abusing them. What in the

1701
01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:58,799
Speaker 4: world is a dignity kit and why would we think

1702
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:00,479
Speaker 4: that this is.

1703
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:01,760
Speaker 5: Something to fund.

1704
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:10,639
Speaker 4: We're insane, guys, We are certifiable if we think this

1705
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:20,320
Speaker 4: is worthwhile. Many families prioritized survival over mental health. Yeah,

1706
01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:24,160
Speaker 4: I'm not surprised that they want to survive. Is anybody

1707
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:26,799
Speaker 4: gonna ask why they can't survive, Well, it's because Israel

1708
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:34,080
Speaker 4: bomb them. Were they surviving before? Absolutely not. Hamas did this.

1709
01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:40,160
Speaker 4: That's the story. The UN wants to make it look

1710
01:44:40,200 --> 01:44:44,040
Speaker 4: like while everything was getting better until Israel did. No

1711
01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:47,599
Speaker 4: mention what Hamas did, No mention how the Palestinians piled

1712
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:53,320
Speaker 4: on on October seventh, no mention about No Palestinian actually

1713
01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:55,719
Speaker 4: worked to help the hostages get free.

1714
01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 5: They knew where the haunches were. They didn't give a damn.

1715
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:04,759
Speaker 5: What are we doing? Why do these people have our money?

1716
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:10,200
Speaker 5: Why are we wasting our time? Let's stop.

1717
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 4: We should pull out of the UN. We should move

1718
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:18,519
Speaker 4: them out of the United States. If we want to

1719
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 4: start a new let's start anew.

1720
01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 5: But with none of this. This is madness and it

1721
01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:29,559
Speaker 5: has to stop. This is Tony Katz today.

1722
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:34,000
Speaker 4: Her name is Sheridan Gorman and she was shot on

1723
01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:39,000
Speaker 4: the campus of Loyola in Chicago. Tony Katz Tony kats Today,

1724
01:45:39,479 --> 01:45:44,799
Speaker 4: a Venezuelan migrant, has been arrested in connection with her murder.

1725
01:45:46,120 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 4: He's accused of approaching the eighteen year old and fired

1726
01:45:50,920 --> 01:45:55,080
Speaker 4: the fatal shot from behind this at the Loyola Beach Pier.

1727
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 4: Tony Kats Tony Katz today. Good to be here, Good

1728
01:45:58,360 --> 01:46:04,040
Speaker 4: to be with you. You're going to find it. Certainly does

1729
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:13,400
Speaker 4: seem that this is exactly the Lake and Riley story.

1730
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:15,680
Speaker 4: Why was this guy in the country? How did he

1731
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:17,640
Speaker 4: get into the country? Was he here legally? Was he

1732
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:22,200
Speaker 4: here illegally? What was he known to have done before

1733
01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 4: he was identified as a migrant from Venezuela?

1734
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:29,559
Speaker 5: Not yet No. By this time tomorrow we may know

1735
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 5: the answer about his legal status.

1736
01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:37,120
Speaker 4: One prior arrest in Cook County a shoplifting misdemeanor from

1737
01:46:37,120 --> 01:46:40,680
Speaker 4: a Macy's in June of twenty twenty three. I'll wait

1738
01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:44,559
Speaker 4: till we get more information. Girl just minded our business,

1739
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:49,920
Speaker 4: shot and killed. This is our society. No rational person

1740
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:55,960
Speaker 4: wants this, No rational person in any way deserves this.

1741
01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 4: The question is how do we stop this.

1742
01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:01,880
Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 4: Regardless of anything else in this case, we need to

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Speaker 4: stop bringing people into the country who are detrimental to

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Speaker 4: the country.

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Speaker 5: Then we need to make sure that we are.

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Speaker 4: Proactive in ensuring that anybody on a watch list or

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Speaker 4: anybody who has a problem is actually being kept.

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Speaker 5: An eye on.

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Speaker 4: Some things you can't plan for. Some things, you can't

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Speaker 4: stop the bad thing from happening. Our question should be

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Speaker 4: what bad things can we stop that is reasonable for

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Speaker 4: us to go do.

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Speaker 5: Then let's go do it. I don't think I'm.

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Speaker 4: Asking too much here, but the investigation to what happened

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Speaker 4: to this girl, we need to see it and then

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Speaker 4: we need to talk about it.

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Speaker 5: Get the podcast.

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Speaker 4: Just look for Tony Katz today on your favorite podcast platform.

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Speaker 5: I'll catch it tomorrow. Everyone, take care of