1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Through a state Lega Pravada. It's a very nice cigar. 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: It's a very very nice cigar. I happen to be 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: a massive fan of the Feral Flying Pig. There's something 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: about that cigar, The construction of that cigar, the feel 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: of that cigar is spectacular. When I find a box, 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: I buy the whole box. It's eat, drink, smell, com 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: Tony kats that right there is Fingers Maloy. He's America's 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: favorite amateur drinker. My voice is going because of allergies. 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: I'm fine, Fingers. I'm so glad you asked and you're 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: worried about my health and well being. I am fine, 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: I am healthy. I am healthy, Fingers MOI, I am 12 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: super duper healthy and ready to go. 13 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 2: I could run a marathon. Is there something wrong with 14 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: your voice? 15 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's allergies. I'm losing my voice a little bit. 16 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: Oh do you need a recola? 17 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: So with the people at Liga Pravada, you had the rollers. 18 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: I always get the name wrong. My pronunciation of other 19 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: language is terrible. Torsadores. These are the rollers. Now. I 20 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: always thought the word meant spindles, but same concept. So 21 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: they would smoke these Liga bravadas, except the tobacco was 22 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: not easy to come by. They needed it for the cigars, 23 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: and so the rollers are like, well, what are we 24 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: going to smoke? So they took some other tobacco and 25 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: made a cigar and saying, okay, we'll smoke this. That 26 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: became the undergrown. So when you see from Liga Bravada 27 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: the undergrown, this is what the rollers created for themselves 28 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: to smoke while they were rolling the Liga Bravadas. And 29 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: this is the maduro. So what we're smoking here is 30 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: an absolutely beautiful six by fifty two, which means it's 31 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: six inches long. He always makes fingers with oily laugh 32 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: and the ring age is the fifty two the diameter 33 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: of the cigar or how thick it is around me 34 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: again with the laughter, Mexican San Andreas. In the wrapper, 35 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: the binder is Brazilian. It is a Honduran and urn 36 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: and nicaraguin filler. That rapper, the grit, the oil, it's 37 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: gritty and smooth and oily. This this is basically how 38 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: I want my skin. I'm assuming this is what George 39 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: Hamilton feels like all the time. Ah, that's that's that's 40 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: a George Hamilton reference. You're welcome, Senior America. 41 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: In his current conditions. 42 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: George Hamilton dead. 43 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: I believe so. 44 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: Oh oh, you tease it, but you don't know. Let 45 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: us know, let us know, please, And if you are 46 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: a lot, Sir Hamilton, we'd love to have you on 47 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: the show. And if you're not, sir Man, we wish 48 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: we had you on the show. Uh, this feels right 49 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: good in the hand, great, great feel on the rapper 50 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: and uh, there's a little bit of a billy club 51 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: right here. You could hit somebody and they would feel 52 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: it fingers the way they would. You're you're looking up 53 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: with see whether not George hown. 54 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: By the way, George Hamilton, if he hit you right 55 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: now now, you'd feel it. He's eighty six years young. 56 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: Is that right? 57 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: You guy got him on the show. You have to 58 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: get George Hamilton on the show. Yeah, mister Hamilton, I 59 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 2: would love it if you came on our show. I 60 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: said you were dead on the air, right, and we would. 61 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: Like to correct the record if we could after him, 62 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: James Buchanan, I can, by the way, I guarantee you 63 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: that he is dead. This is a good feeling. Cigar 64 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: Springer's Boy, You're already lit up here? What do you 65 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: got going on? Honestly, we just lit this up. We're 66 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: just in the first third of the first third of 67 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: the cigar. 68 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: And I am getting hit with a nice bit of 69 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: pepper and spice and that's about it. So I, unfortunately, 70 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: I have nothing to add other than that. That does 71 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: I have a nice hand feel to it. There's not 72 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: that whiffle ball bat sensation for me. And I'll be 73 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: interested to see how this develops over the course of 74 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: the first third of the cigar. 75 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: What do you get? You seem unpleased? 76 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: Huh? 77 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: Did something happen on the way here? Did something happen 78 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: before the way here? Something happened before the way here? 79 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: Is it something you'd like to share? 80 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: I kind of teased it off the air with you, 81 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: but I don't know if I want to get into 82 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: it on the air. No. Why is it so hard 83 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: to get an eighty seven year old man his driver's 84 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: license in Indiana? 85 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: That's all George Hamilton. We're trying, we really are. So 86 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: first things first, with the Undercrown, you're going to get 87 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: a full body tigar. This is absolutely a full body tigar. 88 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: So if you're somebody who does a medium. This might 89 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: be a nice way and we'll get into cost of 90 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: trying some of those bigger smokes. We're doing the Maduro 91 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: version of this. There's also a Connecticut shade version of 92 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: the Undercrown, a secondly drew a State. I remember the 93 00:04:53,160 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: original guy there was with Steve Soaka. This they're constructuction 94 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: is excellent. I was talking about the feral flying pig. 95 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: Now there's the flying pig, which is much smaller. I 96 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: like the feral flying pig. I'm telling you, Compare everything 97 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: I have ever smoked. There's something about that specific cigar. 98 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: It is the greatest construction to me out there. This 99 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: thing is because it has that feel. It's got the 100 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: hand feel absolutely perfect. I don't know if I'm necessarily 101 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:30,679 Speaker 1: into spice at the moment. Right now, I'm actually picking 102 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 1: up a little bit of of of wood. I'm picking 103 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: up a little bit of of bitter, which would signal 104 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: to me a level of dark chocolate, nice, easy, simple, 105 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: and an absolute crap ton of smoke. 106 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was actually gonna say I was starting to 107 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: pick up leather. So I don't know you're saying wood. 108 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: No, Maybe maybe you're more onto it, right, Maybe maybe 109 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: maybe you're you're refined. Pallette is hitting it directly. 110 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: You are so angry, dude, I'm not angry. 111 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: Look at you. 112 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 2: Okay, you want to know the truth? Want I only 113 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 2: want to know the truth. I ate six out of 114 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 2: eight pieces of a hot and ready pizza on the 115 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 2: way here, So. 116 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: That is not true. Wait, that's totally true. I apologize. 117 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: I apologize. Eat your expectation. We all know that fingers 118 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: will I ate three quarters of a little Caesar's pizza 119 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: before he arrived. We all know the other two slices 120 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: are in the car, aren't they. 121 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 2: No, No, my goodness, I would never do that, and 122 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: I left it for the family. I can imagine the 123 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 2: daughter's disappointment when she walks home and sees a pizza 124 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: box on the counter and there are two pieces left. 125 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: You want to take your cigar and you want to 126 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: break it up at the thirds in your mind. I 127 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: had to be right past that first third, second third, 128 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: and final third. And you want to grab your notebooks. 129 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: What did you eat today? What did you drink today? 130 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: All of those things matter. Whether humidity is broken. Here 131 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, Indiana, where we record from, we've had some 132 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: nice breezes some nice weather. A little bit of rain today, 133 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: so a touch more humidity than we've had. And then 134 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: you want to write down your flavors. What is it 135 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: that you're getting out of each third of the cigar 136 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: right in your notebook. And when you try the cigar 137 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: a month from now, six months from now, for whatever 138 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: it is, you try it again, do the same thing. 139 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: Compare your notes, get your through lines. What does it 140 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: really felt about the cigar? And if different foods maybe 141 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: affect different flavors in different ways. You know, if I 142 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: eat this, I should really smoke that. It's a nice 143 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: way to kind of judge things and get yourself a 144 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: good reference point. 145 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: It's just the best time of year for smoking a cigar. 146 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: We're getting ready to kiss fall. College football right on 147 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: the mouth, Yes, college football, open mouth right around the corner. 148 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: Because I am a passionate lover. I read that on 149 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: a bathroom wall. 150 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: You know. This weekend the big Game Vaser is playing 151 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: fab Oh. I cannot wait. It's gonna be on all 152 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: the televisions at sports Parts. 153 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: It's an animal house, college favor college ladies and gentlemen 154 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: fingers on WI. This is the underground madurea from Drewis state, 155 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: this is a very very easy going but big stick 156 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: in that it's an easy draw. You know that you're 157 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: gonna get something larger. You don't have to question whether 158 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: that this is going to be a massive, massive thing. 159 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: You know exactly what it's going to be, and it's 160 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: going to be that. Every single time, they actually referred 161 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: to this as the Liga Undercrown Madurea. Did you see 162 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: in Mexico where members of parliament got into a fistfight. 163 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: I'm guessing it was something about natural grass versus AstroTurf. 164 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: That's probably it right there, t drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz. 165 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: That right there is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers Maloy. 166 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what it was about as I'm talking 167 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: to you all, I know, Yeah, it's Mexico. Someone's angry 168 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: with somebody else, and Guy A kind of grabs Guy Bee, 169 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: and Guy B is like, hey, don't grab me, and 170 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: Guy A is like what bam, punch push. Another guy 171 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: comes in, he gets pushed over. Did anybody get hit 172 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: in the back with a steel chair? No, no, no, 173 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: no, nobody was wearing a mask. I forget what they call 174 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: those wrestlers. Oh, dang it. I should know. I should know. Anyway, 175 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: that's not the story tea drink errow. I'll find out. 176 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: Did I say it was he drink smoke, T drink smoke. 177 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm Tony kats that right. There is America's favorite amateur drinker. 178 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: Fingers molloy, you have an update for us? 179 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: Oh, I do have an update for it. For those 180 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 2: who tuned into last week's Eat Drink Smoke, Tony went 181 00:09:55,559 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: on an epic rant about the Cracker Barrel logo change 182 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: and how everyone was getting out of control. 183 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: First of all, Lucidorus, Ah, that's what it was. Lucidorus 184 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: is what it is. Thank you now. Yes, everybody was 185 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: getting out of control. It was nuts. It's a logo change. 186 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: Move on with your day now. If you want to 187 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: talk about other things that Cracker Barre was doing, policies 188 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: and promotions and how they run their business, fine, but 189 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: the logo change was no big deal. It wasn't the 190 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: end of the world. It was actually easier to read. 191 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: Move on. The whole thing was manufactured nonsense. So what 192 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: is your update? 193 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: Well, the manufactured nonsense, as you refer to it, Tony, 194 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: actually worked because Cracker Barrel backed away from the new logo, 195 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 2: saying they're bringing back the old timer, Tony the guy 196 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: leaning against the bars. 197 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: It's like I always said, this is the most important 198 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: thing that has ever happened in America. This logo is 199 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: part of Americana. If you're going to change it, you 200 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: might as well just kill my grandmother with a kitchen knife. 201 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: I find the whole thing despicable, disgusting. And I said, so, 202 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: I actually led the charge. I'm saying, who do you 203 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: think you are to change the logo. I'm the guy 204 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: you got to speak to about whether or not you 205 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: change the logo at your company there, And I said, 206 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: this cracker barrel, this cracker bar logo, these people could 207 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: go to hell. That's what I said, fingers one way, 208 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: and they listened to me. That's the kind of power 209 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: I have over here in Entering Smoke Nation. 210 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: Remind everyone where they can donate to your congressional campaign? 211 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: Oh sure, was it that obvious? I still don't care. 212 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: I don't honestly. America celebrated this like it was some 213 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: great win, and I'm like, if it means that families 214 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: are gonna stop fighting for five minutes, all right? Great? 215 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 2: Look take the silver lining. Sometimes take the w to 216 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 2: steal a Chris rock bit. Did you run out to 217 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: your mailbox to see if you got your cracker barrel prize? 218 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: I didn't understand it either. I looked at it and 219 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: I thought to myself, I could get upset about this, 220 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: but A, I really really don't care, and be I 221 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 2: have a step foot in a cracker barrel in fifteen years. 222 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a while. I was thinking that last 223 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: time we were there, driving back from when my parents 224 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: lived in Georgia, driving back New Year's Eve, we weren't 225 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: going to get back in time. We had dinner New 226 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: Year's Eve cracker bro I think I still think the 227 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: story is insane, and I will tell you that I 228 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 1: am a believer that you have to fire the CEO. 229 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: Now you ask me why do you have to fire 230 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: the CEO. You fire the CEO because this is somebody 231 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: who could be easily swayed by the masses. This is 232 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: not a leader. You made a change, You went through 233 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: all the steps to say this is better for the brand, 234 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: and then you got some pushback and you didn't not 235 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: even not fight it. You said, oh, we're sorry, we 236 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: listened to our customers. Did you even ask a customer 237 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: should we change the logo before you did? What do 238 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: you mean you listened to your customers? What does that mean? 239 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: How exactly were you listening to your customers before that? 240 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: You didn't know that they take that logo and say 241 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: this is a part of Americana, this is what we want. 242 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: I don't believe you listened to your customers. I don't 243 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: think you cared about your customers. You said, we're going 244 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: to create a new logo which looks an awful lot 245 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: like the old logo and an awful lot like the 246 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: Denny's logo. And you said, here's our new logo. And 247 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: everyone said what are you doing? And you said, oh gosh, 248 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: oh gosh, oh gosh, and then you wet yourself and 249 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: then you change back the ceo should be fired. 250 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: Counter point if it really looks like your customers have 251 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 2: been angered to the point where you're gonna lose a 252 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: ton of business, and you're on THESSSS Titanic cracker barrel 253 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: new logo as the ship is sinking and you're moving 254 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: the deck chairs around instead of saying, you know what, 255 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: People really seem to have a real emotional attachment to 256 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: this logo. I miscalculated. What's wrong with the businessman businesswoman saying, 257 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: you know, folks, I maybe made a mistake and I'm 258 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: going to pivot back and make my customer shrinking customer 259 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: base happy. 260 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: So first, you haven't proven to me you had a 261 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: shrinking customer base. Second, there are other things going on, 262 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: like events. They were sponsoring changes to the physical store 263 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: that made it more sterile as opposed to more homie, 264 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: and you could argue that that could have turned off 265 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: some potential customers or existing customers. But you haven't shown 266 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: me where they actually lost customers. You showed me where 267 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: people on social media said, are go margle Anger, like, 268 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: that's what you showed me. It's all you showed me. 269 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: I have no idea what happened here or why. I 270 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: have no idea if it made a difference. You know what, 271 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: I know you as a CEO clearly didn't do your 272 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: homework and ensuring you and were making the right move. 273 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: And so therefore you have to go the vice president 274 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: of bud Light, who's like, we need to be more inclusive. 275 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: So therefore we need to have this person who claims 276 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: to be a young girl as our spokesperson or at 277 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: least on a can of this, Dylan mulvaney, whomever. That's 278 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: where people said, we're not doing this, don't. We just 279 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: want to drink beer. We don't want anybody's politics in 280 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: our stuff. And so for not understanding it, for not 281 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: really doing the work necessary to make a change like this, 282 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: you gotta be fired. 283 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: Maybe circle back for a second. Argle bargel angry, thank you, 284 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: thank you. So when I name the podcast for next 285 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,359 Speaker 2: week's show, how do you spell argle bargele. 286 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: A r g l e b A r g l e. 287 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: But if you want to really get some hits, huh, 288 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: you should name it the Joe Rogan Experience. Oh wow, 289 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: try that. I have a feeling if we do that, 290 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: he'll be going argle, bargle, bargel. No, just put the headline. 291 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: The title should be we put Joe Rogan in the headline, 292 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: just to see what happens. But what is that wrong? 293 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: You know what? I'm thinking? 294 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 2: We should do that? And then after that, eat, rink, 295 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: smoke logo change nice. 296 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: Nice. I tried. I tried to use AI to create 297 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: cracker barrel logos total disaster total total. I said, make 298 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: me a logo that looks like the old cracker barrel 299 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: logo for Tony Katz, and it gave me the Enron logo. 300 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: Oh nicely done, stole your line. I was gonna go 301 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: with kmart nice also good. I tried to make the 302 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: cylinder logo too, and then we tried pets dot com. 303 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: I have been on a side note, spending way too 304 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: much time lately on chat GPT, way too much time 305 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 2: on it, using it. The whole AI experience is fascinating 306 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: and terrifying at the same time. 307 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: Were you what were you trying to do? 308 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: Asking it? What how it sees itself in ten years? 309 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: Oh? 310 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: He said, destroying humanity? 311 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: It was it wasn't lying, was not lying? Find everything 312 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: at eat drinksmokeshow dot com? We have cake to eat? 313 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: We have we have a cake hack that we have 314 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: to eat. 315 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm into that, eat. 316 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: Drink smoke. It's your cigar bourbon food, the extravaganza. I 317 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: am Tony Katz. That is fingers with wan fingers. Nothing 318 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: says cigars quite like cake. 319 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 2: I read that somewhere. I think Churchill said it. 320 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: He did. He did right there at Gallipoli. We we 321 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: normally get into a news of the week, we will, 322 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: but uh it is cake time. Uh So I have 323 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: a ton of recipes to go through, ton of things 324 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: to get to. We will, But I've been on a 325 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: baking binge. I's been on a baking binge, and it's 326 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: all about. As much as I despise the concept of 327 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: the influencer, some of the people doing food on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, 328 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: although I don't use TikTok, they're doing some really excellent work. 329 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: There's some unique stuff and there have been a lot 330 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: of cake CAx taking. You know, you don't have to 331 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: be an expert baker, take a cake mix from a 332 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: box that you get on sale and do something with it. 333 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: So this right here is oohy guey buttercake. Now. This 334 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: was first introduced to me by a mutual friend, Virginia Crude, 335 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: who's got a great bakery there on the Illinois side 336 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: of Saint Louis, and I enjoyed it. Then we found 337 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: what they call Neiman Marcus cake. So Neiman Marcus was 338 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: a department store kind of places, high end, high falutin 339 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: I believe they said fancy and schmancy. 340 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, many of them had elevators. 341 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: So this is the the hack somehow of this. Hey, 342 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: this is what they were making with with a box 343 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: with a box of cake. Miss came from Betty Crocker. 344 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: We've got two eggs in here, cream cheese is in here, 345 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: of another extract is in here. Uh and actually four 346 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: eggs total and melted butter. So that's what this is. 347 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 2: So what makes it gouey? 348 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: I think what makes it gowey is the love that 349 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: you bring to it. I think the whole purpose here 350 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: is something that works well for coffee, works well uh 351 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: for the table, and is cheap and easy. I think 352 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: the point here is why spend a fortune when you 353 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: can only look like you did? 354 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: That's that's it. So did you happen to pick this hack? 355 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 2: Because I mentioned, what was it about a month or 356 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 2: two ago that I had never had gooey butter cake? 357 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: I forgot that you had mentioned that, And no, no, 358 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: I didn't. You were in no way in my thoughts 359 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: when I did this only cake? Do you want to 360 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: try it first? 361 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely? This is my this is my first attempt. 362 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: So it's a bass vanilla cake. Oh I I I 363 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: I like I. 364 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 2: Like to I do like a dessert, but I don't 365 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: need it to be too much I don't, are you 366 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: really on the nose? It smells, uh smells kind of 367 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 2: it was coming. 368 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: He takes his bite. The I don't. I guess Namon 369 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: Marcus sold this cake. I didn't know that, the Neman 370 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: Marcus cake hack, the oohy guey butter cake, Nemus Marcus, 371 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: Nemon Marcus cake. 372 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 2: Box cake hack, vanilla? 373 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: Are you happy? Is it? Texture? Right? Is it flavor? 374 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: Is it not your kind of cake? No? Although is 375 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: anything not your kind of cake? 376 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 2: Beef cake, it's not my kind of cake. 377 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: Interesting. 378 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: Having said that, right, this is very good. And it's 379 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: screaming for a cup of coffee and some coffee and 380 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 2: some vanilla ice cream and some vanilla ice cream. It's wonderful. 381 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: It's very good. You need you want coffee? 382 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: I know somebody that that wouldn't be terrible. 383 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: I We'll get some coffee. Yes, it is. 384 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 2: It is so good. 385 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: It is straight up vanilla. It is sugar and vanilla. 386 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: It is childhood birthday party vanilla. That's it. The top 387 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: is almost crystallized. And oh it's really rich. That might 388 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: be sweeter than I need. I'm I might cut the 389 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: sugar the next time. That's right, I said. 390 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 2: It that's crazy talk. I might why perfect amount of sugar. 391 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 2: I actually could use some powder sugar on top. 392 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: Uh. 393 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 2: What's what's nice about that? It's this particular cake. Uh 394 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: it's moist on the bottom of the cake. Yeah, which 395 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 2: all over to me I wasn't expecting because in the middle, 396 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's dry, but it's drier. It seems 397 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: like the moisture in the cake is in the bottom 398 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: of it. 399 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: In a lot of our conversations, people are when we 400 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: talk about barbecue, they're they're they're kind of afraid. And 401 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: I think that's true about cooking in general. People have 402 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: this generalized fear that it's not gonna come out right, 403 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a cost issue, whatever the case may be. 404 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: So I really am loving the idea of these things 405 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: that are simple, simple ways to do something. Take something basic, 406 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: do minimal to it, and get a better result. Because 407 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: you could have just made the cake mix and be 408 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: like cake mix done. It doesn't take much and we'll 409 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: have the full recipe up there at eatteringsmokeshow dot com. 410 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: It does not take much to do to put a 411 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: little spin on something to create a value out of 412 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: it so someone can say ooh, that's interesting. It's not 413 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: just the basic you gave of yourself a little bit 414 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: of it, and I think that's true. Go ahead. 415 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 2: Well, but you brought up the fear of trying something 416 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: new and uh, maybe going outside of your comfort zone 417 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 2: to make a dish. I can understand that with barbecue, 418 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 2: when you are spending eighty to one hundred dollars on 419 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: a brisket, you know, I can understand sitting back and saying, man, 420 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: I really don't want to screw this up. Where how 421 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 2: much was the Betty Crocker? Oh my god, we got 422 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 2: it on sale for ninety nine cents. Yeah, so you 423 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 2: screw that up. You're like, what are you gonna do? 424 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: But you you really really really have to be awful 425 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 2: at baking to screw up a cake. Well, so wait 426 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 2: a second, really bad baking. Cooking is art. Baking a science. 427 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 2: That's number one. It is to make it inedible. 428 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, well take care of the box. Well with 429 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: the box, no, just follow, but you're following the directions. 430 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: You don't just add a little bit of this or 431 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: stickle a flooride or way. 432 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about baking a cake from scratch. I'm 433 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 2: talking about you've got the Betty Crocker box in your hand. 434 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 2: You Betty is holding your hand, right she is. You 435 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 2: shouldn't be, you know, worried that you're gonna screw that up. 436 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: But here's something that you could do a little bit 437 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,239 Speaker 1: too to turn it from basic too unique and uh. 438 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: If you're worried about your your brisket, you won't if 439 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: you get your brisket from Defiance Beef Defiance Beef dot Com, 440 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: use prom a code, eat, drink, smoke and get one 441 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars off your order. You're talking about 442 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: being able to order your cow and you can a 443 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: quarter cow, a have cow, a full cow, and they 444 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: will call you and say your cow is ready. What 445 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: would you like ribbis, you want strips, you want porterhouse, 446 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 1: you want a tender led, you want brisket. Boom done, simple, easy, 447 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: Basic Defiance Beef from right here in Indiana, ship to 448 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: you wherever you are across the country. It will come 449 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: to you each steak vacuum packed in the dry ice, 450 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: ready to go. It will be there boom quick after 451 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: their twenty one day aging process, which means you get 452 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: an unbelievably tender cut of meat. Really really special. Defiance 453 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: Beef d e F I a nce Defiancebeef dot Com, 454 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: use proble code, eat drink smoke, get your discount one 455 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars off your order right. 456 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 2: Now, and see how everything ties in. There's a good 457 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 2: possibility that that cow's name was Betty. 458 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, look at you, Defiance Beef dot Com promo good, Eat, 459 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: Drink Smoke. I saw a recipe fingers with the way 460 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: for brisket. I ask you, we'll get to news the 461 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: week in a moment. 462 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: Do we have to? 463 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: They did a quasi hot honey brisket. They took honey, 464 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: and they took red pepper flakes, and they kind of 465 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: warmed it up, break it down a little bit, took 466 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: the brisket, poured this hot honey and red pepper flake 467 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: thing all over it, and then let it rest for 468 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: seven days in the hot honey. Yeah your nay? No really, 469 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: And I don't know. 470 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 2: I would have to think about this more, but my 471 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 2: first initial reaction is no. Although you and I have 472 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 2: talked about it, we both like to dabble with brown 473 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 2: sugar in our brisket. 474 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: Rub my family. I can. I'm fine salt and pepper 475 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 1: I really don't need it. My family is insane. When 476 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: we add the brown sugar, They're like, this is this 477 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: is perfect? 478 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, honey. And then on top of it, hot honey 479 00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 2: seven days, seven days. That brisket's gonna taste like hot honey. 480 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: I would assume. So we're gonna have to find out. Okay, 481 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: good on you. I like you adventurous because we ate 482 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: the cake. We didn't get to do News of the 483 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: Week yet. To tea drink smoke, I'm Tony Katz. That 484 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: right there is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers Moloy. We 485 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: are smoking from Liga, the Jewis State, the Undercrown Maduro. 486 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: I always call it chew Estate, but they all say 487 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 1: the Liga Undercrown Maduro. What can I say? I'm old school. 488 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: This is the Toro, so the six by fifty two. 489 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: This is a full bodied cigar. Fingers molloy, you are 490 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: in now into the first third of the cigar, deep 491 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 1: into it. What say you? It tastes like gooey butter cake. Well, 492 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: I think this cuts through the gouey butter cake. We 493 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: were just trotting some cake. I think this cuts through it. 494 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: There's you are still getting that, you said leather. I 495 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: don't think that's necessarily an awful thing thing to say there. 496 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: I was getting some wood from it, a little bit 497 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: of bitter as a bit of chocolate at the first 498 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: not necessarily overwhelming, just I was getting the more of 499 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: the boldness than anything else. But it's smoking well, it's 500 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: easy to handle, it feels great in the hand. 501 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 2: Just a nice piece, and for me that pepper and 502 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 2: spice is picked up just a little bit. As I'm 503 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: moving through the first third of the cigar. 504 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: Fingers were waring the Liga Underground Maduro grand Toro. They 505 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: call this six by fifty two? Is it in your 506 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: humid or for nine dollars and fifty cents stick? Stop 507 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: it right? Yes, this is one of those. Now I 508 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: would not be every day on this cigar, but there's 509 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: no doubt that I buy a box and I split 510 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: it with a friend and it's just in the humidor. 511 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: It's just there. Right, Buy a box and it boxes 512 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: twenty five, find four friends, everybody gets five. Easy way 513 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: to do this boom, simple done. You've got it maybe 514 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: once a week, maybe once every other week when you 515 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: just want something a little bit bigger. Absolutely, unquestionably this 516 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: is something that could. 517 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 2: Be in the human earth. Yeah, I'm not starting my 518 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 2: morning off with this cigar. But and it's not an 519 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: everyday smoke, No, but not for me at all, But 520 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: that at that price point, the way it's hitting me, 521 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 2: I would I would have one or two of these 522 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: in my in my humid door for all, like a 523 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 2: once a month smoke something like that. 524 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, after dinner, after dinner, late night, you're gonna be 525 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: up for a while smoke. Yeah, this can do it. 526 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: And no matter what you ate, like we're doing this, 527 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: this cake hack, this uguy buttercake hack, and the recipe, 528 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: you will be up at EA Drinksmoke Show dot com. 529 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: This absolutely cuts through it. I am not bothered by 530 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: what I hate. There are cigars that could be lighter 531 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: and really affected by the food. I think this one 532 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:52,479 Speaker 1: moves right through it. 533 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,239 Speaker 2: I think you light this up at night and if 534 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: you're gonna have an evening cup of coffee, you're gonna 535 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 2: be up till two in the morning. 536 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: And you know what, you'll be happy about it. Yes, 537 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: but it's time fingers Horatio Maloy for News of the Week. 538 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 2: Oh, Tony, I just I hesitate to mention this because 539 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: I know you're such a huge fan of the TSA, 540 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 2: and anytime I bring up anything. 541 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: A flashback, flashback to all the times I talked about 542 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: how much I hate the TSA. 543 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: Well, did you mention you you flew recently? Did you 544 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: have a bad experience with the TV? 545 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: I did not. 546 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: Oh not this time. 547 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: I did not, because we've now changed the rules where 548 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: you don't have to take off the shoes, so I didn't. 549 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: I didn't have to take off the shoes. 550 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 2: Okay, but don't Did you get the extra service? And 551 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 2: what is it the TSA PRE No, I don't do that. 552 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 2: I do not pay for my rights. Well, so what 553 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 2: I don't understand? And we're getting a little bit away 554 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 2: from News of the week. But that's okay. If I'm 555 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 2: buying the TSA pre because I don't want to take 556 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: my shoes off and then they make that announcement, Am 557 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 2: I getting some of my money back? I'm gonna be 558 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 2: pretty upset. 559 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: I doubt it. What it turns out you don't get 560 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: your money back, I disagree. 561 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 2: I would assume that the TSA, since they're so wonderful 562 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: with customer service, would understand your gripe and it would 563 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 2: immediately give you half your money back. 564 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: We dremon. 565 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 2: Having said that, according to an August fifteenth report from 566 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 2: the Street Tony, the TSA and the Federal Aviation Administration 567 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 2: updated their prohibited items list to include popular hairstyling tools. 568 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 2: Passengers will be better off leaving their cordless hair devices 569 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 2: at home because they may contain potentially hazardous materials. So 570 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 2: that cordless, that cordless curling iron, the flat irons, apparently 571 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 2: some of them contain gas cartridges. You tin filled cur 572 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 2: irons and flat irons and gas refilled cartridges. For these tools, 573 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: they're no longer allowed in your check bags. First of all, Uh, listen, 574 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 2: I just towel dry them my here, Tony, and I 575 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 2: haven't used a flat iron in years. I'm surprised. I'm 576 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 2: surprised that they use gas cartridges. 577 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know that, all right, So the but so, 578 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: the issue is not on a plane. The issue as 579 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: is as checked baggage. Yes, you could still bring it 580 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: and carry on. 581 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 2: They can still be packed on carry on backs. However, 582 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 2: a safety cover must be securely fitted over the heating element. 583 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 2: The device must be protected from accidental activation. Shouldn't we 584 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 2: all be protected from accidental activation, Tony. 585 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: You're telling me. 586 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 2: Then turned the Beavis and butt heead. 587 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: Sin It's activation was an art film I made in 588 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: conver it is but I'm me a young man and Margaret. 589 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: Here's George Hamilton and Margaret. Turns out we're doing this 590 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: show in nineteen sixty four. 591 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 2: But you brought this point up before about the TSA, 592 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 2: and it still rings true today. It's hard to keep 593 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 2: track of what you're allowed to do when it comes 594 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 2: to whether it's packing your bags, how you bored a plane. 595 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 2: It feels like the rules are different by the day 596 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 2: and by the airport. 597 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: Undoubtedly true. In this airport you take the you take 598 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: your laptop out of the bag. That airport, you don't 599 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: take your laptop out of the bag. It's using that 600 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: as just one of many many examples. So I don't 601 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: I will again tell you the TSA has to go 602 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: and we have to get back to private security. Airport 603 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: to airport. That's that's number one standardization amongst them in 604 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: terms of best practices. Would also be would be very 605 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: nice if you tell me there's gonna be an that 606 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: something is combustible and you want to be able to 607 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: have access to it, and so you don't put it 608 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: in check baggage. I can live with that. I don't 609 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: think that's an end of the world kind of thing. 610 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: That's kind of rational. 611 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 2: You could live with that and live longer. According to 612 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 2: a new study, if you eat more meat, Tony Fox 613 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 2: News has the story eating more meat could be beneficial 614 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 2: for the body and new studies suggests. Research from Canada's 615 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 2: McMaster University, Ah great basketball team. 616 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: Yes, that's where I do all my studies revealed that 617 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,439 Speaker 1: animal sourced foods are not linked to a higher risk 618 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: of death. Thank you. 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