1 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: Rather than trying to micromanage military operations through war powers votes, 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: Congress really should leverage its budget authority to influence how 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: long and where the US is engaged. It does seem 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: like this is a long running Washington pattern. Members of 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: Congress they like debating the war powers more than exercising them. 6 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 1: So if the war goes well, they could say, oh, yeah, 7 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: we supported it, but if it goes badly, they could 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: say no, no, no. The President started this, so the vote 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: wasn't just about Iran. It was about voting ownership of 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: the war the House. They voted down the resolution two 11 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: nineteen to two twelve, and it was the second major 12 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: test of Congress's war powers authority in many days. 13 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I want to give some context here because 14 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: there's a lot of misinformation that you'll see online about this. 15 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: For starters, Yes, of course, Congress is the only entity 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: that can officially declare war, but the United State dates 17 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: hasn't declared any war on anybody since World War Two. 18 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 2: There is the War Powers Act that you here mentioned 19 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: again and again and again. And by the way, just 20 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: about every president has invoked the War Powers Act since 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: it came around in nineteen seventy three, and what it 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: says is that the president can take military action without 23 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: authorization from Congress in a limited basis. Oh and by 24 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: the way, when you take military action, you have to 25 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: inform Congress within forty eight hours after doing that. And 26 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: you've got this time frame. It's sixty days, and you 27 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: can get another thirty day extension onto that, so essentially 28 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 2: ninety days that you can take this military action without 29 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: having to go to Congress and ask for authorization. So 30 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: Trump has got ninety days here where he can pretty 31 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: much do anything he wants. But because we've still got 32 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: a Republican House and a Republican Senate, even if this 33 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: goes over the ninety day period, I think it's going 34 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: to be highly unlikely that anything will happen from a 35 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: congressional standpoint that would keep Trump from being able to 36 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: conduct military operations in Iran. 37 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: So what you've got here is this War Powers Act. 38 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: It almost seems like political theater now it exists, so 39 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: Congress can say it has the authority of a war. 40 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: But when the moment does arrive, presidents launched the military action, 41 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: Congress debates it and then doesn't actually stop anything. 42 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: Well, Congress could have stopped it this week. I mean, 43 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: if they wanted to vote on this this week, they 44 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: probably could have stopped it and at least give themselves 45 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: a pretty good leg up if it ended up going 46 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: to the judicial route. But the fact of the matter 47 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 2: is it didn't because we've got tons of Republicans in here. Look, 48 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: if this was a massively unpopular military excursion, so much 49 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: so that Republicans were against it as well, well, then 50 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: Congress would have passed that War Powers Act and maybe 51 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 2: limited what Trump could do militarily. But they didn't do that. 52 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: And again, so Trump's got ninety days to figure this out. 53 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: If he can't figure it all out in ninety days, 54 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: he is going to have to go back to Congress. 55 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 2: But again, because it's Republican House and Republicans said it, 56 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 2: it's likely likely. You know, as long as things keep 57 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 2: going the way they're going, that you're going to see 58 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 2: Congress authorized continued, continued military action. 59 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: So you've got Speaker Johnson, and after the House blocked it, 60 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: he said, you know what, we're not at war. 61 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: Well, we just had an important series of votes on 62 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 3: the House floor, as you know, the War Powers Resolution failed. 63 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: That is the right result. We are not at war. 64 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 3: We have no intention of being at war. The President 65 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 3: and the Department of Defense has made this very clear. 66 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 3: The Apartment of War has made it very clear. This 67 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 3: is a limited operation. It's an operation. It's limited in 68 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 3: its scope and duration. It has a very clear mission, 69 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: and that mission is nearly accomplished by all estimates. We 70 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 3: are taking down Iron's ballistic missile capability, it's it's stockpile 71 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 3: and its ability to produce more. They were doing that 72 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: at a at a scale and a speed that was 73 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: more than our regional allies could keep up with, and 74 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: it was a serious and eminent threat to the United States. 75 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: We don't need to really relitigate all that today. But 76 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: also we wanted to take down the capability of their navy, 77 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: and all of that has been very successful. So this 78 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: needs to continue. It would have been a very dangerous 79 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: gambit to take the Commander in chief's ability it away 80 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 3: to complete this mission. It would have been a very 81 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: serious misstep by Congress, and I'm grateful that that resolution failed. 82 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: So he said we're not at war. However, today Donald 83 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: Trump said that there was there's gonna be no deal 84 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: with Iran unless it surrenders unconditionally. That sounds like war 85 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: speak to me. He meant that Iran must give up 86 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: completely before negotiations begin. He posted to social media and 87 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: he said that the US would help rebuild Iran's economy 88 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: after such a surrender and the installation of new leadership, 89 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: and he also said that the US should help choose 90 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: Iran's next leader. 91 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: What Donald Trump is looking for here is pretty much 92 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: a repeat of what we did in Venezuela. And so 93 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: to recap Venezuela, we went in, we took he's sitting 94 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: in a jail cell in New York. We took their 95 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: vice president, Dulci and said to her, Okay, you're going 96 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: to run this country. And by the way, we've got 97 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: our warships still sitting off your coast. So it's essentially 98 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 2: a gun to her head situation, and so far it 99 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: looks like has worked. In fact, she came out yesterday 100 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: and had all this praise for Donald Trump. He's looking 101 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: to replicate that exactly with Iran. Pick some leadership that's 102 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: going to do exactly what we want, especially when it 103 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: comes to outside their borders. I think Donald Trump is 104 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: in a position where he's like, hey, you know what, 105 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: as long as you're not killing your civilians just for protesting, 106 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 2: you can run your country pretty much however you want 107 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: it to. Of course, we want the US and our 108 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 2: US backed companies to be able to access your rare 109 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: earth minerals and your oil and make money for both 110 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 2: you and for US. But you can run inside your 111 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 2: country however you want. But when it comes to outside 112 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: of your borders, that's where we're really going to clamp down. 113 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: The big question here is is Donald Trump going to 114 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: be able to find somebody that can do two things 115 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: that can make Donald Trump happy, but then can also 116 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: make the citizens of Iran happy and compliant to what 117 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: they want to do. 118 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: He said that the regime leaders in Iran are calling 119 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: him and begging for a deal. 120 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 4: As soon as they set off a missile, within four 121 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 4: minutes the launcher gets hit. They don't know what's happening. 122 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 4: But we have the greatest military anywhere in the world. 123 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 4: Their navy is gone, twenty four ships in three days. 124 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 4: That's a lot of ships. They're anti aircraft weapons are gone, 125 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,679 Speaker 4: so they have no air force. They have no air defense. 126 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 4: All of their airplanes are gone, their communications are gone, 127 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 4: missiles are gone, launches are gone about sixty and sixty 128 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 4: four respectively. Other than that, they're doing quite well. 129 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 2: I said, what's left. 130 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 4: But they're tough and they want to fight, and they're saying, 131 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 4: how do we make a deal. I said, you're being 132 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 4: a little bit late, and we want to fight now 133 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 4: more than they do. We've had forty seven years, depending 134 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 4: on the way you counted, but forty seven years of 135 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 4: horror with this group. 136 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: War isn't cheap, by the way, even well planned ones. 137 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: And you could argue whether this was well planned or not. 138 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: But the US military campaign and Iran already very expensive. 139 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,239 Speaker 1: Is being reported that it just in these first initial days. 140 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: We're already at a cost of over three point seven 141 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: billion dollars roughly eight hundred and ninety million dollars per day. 142 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: Most of this is spent on munitions and operational cost. 143 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: Part of the early costs not currently in the Pentagon's budget, 144 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: meaning Congress is going to have to approve additional funding 145 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: for this, and analysts estimate that this could get up 146 00:07:55,560 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: between forty billion and sixty five billion dollars if this continues. 147 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, we're really great at breaking stuff. Our military 148 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: is spectacular. I don't think anybody doubts that our military 149 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: can go anywhere and break the hell out of any 150 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: place that we want to. We prove that in Venezuela, 151 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: and so far two months in Venezuela things have been 152 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: going good. The problem we have is fixing stuffed after 153 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: we break it or being involved in that. And we 154 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: saw the disaster that that was in two thousand and 155 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: three in Iraq, although I think Donald Trump from a 156 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: large perspective, has no interest in fixing it, or at least, hey, 157 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: if you want to fix it, and it's easy for 158 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: us to fix it, and there's something in it for us, great, 159 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: But I think he's going in there to break around 160 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: and then eventually you guys figure out how to put 161 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: it back together. I wanted to stop you from messing 162 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: with all your neighbors, especially Israel, and I did that 163 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 2: because I broke all your war machines. And now here 164 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: you go, here's your country back. I know I broke it. 165 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: You better figure out how to put it back together. 166 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: Here's your broken toy you mentioned two thousand and three, 167 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: and here's Donald Rumsfeld. We go down memory lane and 168 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: he's talking about how long that war could have lasted. 169 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 3: It is not knowable if force will be used, but 170 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 3: if it is to be used, it is not. 171 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 4: Knowable how long that conflict would last. It could last, 172 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 4: you know, six days, six weeks. 173 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 2: I doubt six months. Bee missed it by about six years. 174 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: On that one. Don't go on the record and say 175 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: when you think it's going to be done, yeah. 176 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I have a man Donald Rumsfeld at the time, 177 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 2: I mean his press conferences that he had every day. 178 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: It reminds me what was the most famous Donald Rumsfeld? 179 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: The things you don't right there, there aren't there. 180 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: Are no knowns, there are unknown knowns, and then there 181 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: are unknown unknowns. 182 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: He was. 183 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: He was a I don't want to call it necessarily 184 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 2: word salad, but sometimes I felt like I needed a 185 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: dictionary or a phonics book to follow Donald Rumsfeld when 186 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: he suck. The other thing that I love that Donald 187 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: Rumsfeld said, and one of the famous lines that he 188 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 2: had is you don't go to war with the army 189 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 2: you want you go to war with the army. 190 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: You got well. In regards to costs, obviously, the longer 191 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: this last, or the longer the bigger it expands, the 192 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: more it's going to cost. And estimates of how much 193 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: it will cost will just climb higher, not only abroad, 194 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: but the US economic impact, trade, energy prices, inflation. The 195 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: analysts are saying that that could push it up to 196 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: two hundred ten billion dollars or more, not just military spending, 197 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: but the broader economic effects. 198 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 2: And I think here's where Donald Trump is going to 199 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: have the problem as it relates to dollars, because we 200 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 2: hear these numbers all the time in the federal government. Oh, 201 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: this is going to cost you know, one hundred billion dollars, 202 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: If this cost a trillion dollars, and we're thirty eight 203 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: trillion dollars in debt, and eventually those numbers just mean 204 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: nothing to the American public because we're like, oh, guys, 205 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 2: this is no that's a level you can't even compromise, right, 206 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: I can't even understand that we're already thirty three, you know, 207 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 2: thirty eight trillion dollars in debt. What's another fifty billion 208 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: on a war in Iraq? Big deal. Now, where the 209 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: problem comes down to is how it affects average, everyday Americans. 210 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: And we just talked about earlier on the show. Gas 211 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 2: prices have gone through the roof, and by the way, 212 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: oil is up twenty five percent in the last week. 213 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: And that's not just gas prices. Almost everything that we 214 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: make and produce these days has some sort of petroleum 215 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: or petroleum by products as part of it. So that 216 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: when those when those costs end up hitting the American taxpayer. 217 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: That's where Donald Trump is going to have a real 218 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: hard time dealing with it. Not so much the fifty 219 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: billion or one hundred billion or whatever this war is 220 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: going to cost you. 221 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 1: No, it's how does it affect me? 222 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: How does it affect me? How does it affect me 223 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: when I go to the gas pump. How does it 224 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: affect me when I go to the grocery store. How 225 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 2: does it affect me when I go to buy this thing? 226 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 2: That is so impact tangible it is, and it makes 227 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 2: sense right exactly. If all of a sudden, I'm having 228 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: to pay an extra ten bucks to fill up my 229 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: gas tank, that impacts me. If all of a sudden 230 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: my grocery prices go up. Or I want to buy 231 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: this item and the price has gone up because it's 232 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: made with petroleum products, or because we've instituted a new 233 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 2: tariff somewhere, or there are supply chain issues because they 234 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: shut down the straight of horror moves that is impactful 235 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 2: on the app rich American taxpayer, and that's when you'll 236 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: start to see people being like, I can't take this 237 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: no more.