1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: So as always, I got three more things for you, 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be here, good 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: to be with you. 4 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: Three stories that. 5 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: Aren't going to get any coverage or nowhere near the 6 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: coverage that they need to get. And the first was 7 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: a post I saw from Mark Hemingway, a good writer. 8 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: He is the husband of Molly Hemingway over the Federalist 9 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: that you've seen on Fox a million times. And it's 10 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: a video that was put out by TMZ. And in 11 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: the video, you have a police officer stopping their vehicle 12 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: because there's a guy in the middle of the road, 13 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: major major highway, freeway and he's just standing there and 14 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: he's blocking traffic. And so the police vehicle now kind 15 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: of blocks traffic to try and deal with this guy. 16 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: This guy then you know, he's walking around, he's talking 17 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: to himself. 18 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: He walks directly up. 19 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: To the car, to the front door, the driver side door. 20 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: I just said, front door, and the cop opens and 21 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: it's a female cop. I take it back. The guy 22 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: opens the door, the door's not even locked. The female 23 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: cop gets out. He throws the female cop to the ground, 24 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: steals the police vehicle and drives off. That's what happens here? 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: What in the world is going on now? I think 26 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: that's a female cop. Mark Hemingway thought that was a 27 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: female cop. And what he writes is, I'm sorry, but 28 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: women shouldn't be cops. Firemen are in combat. It makes 29 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: us all left less safe. This is the kind of 30 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: talk that gets the left just out of their heads. 31 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: What do you mean women can't be police officers. Anybody 32 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: out of shape can't be a police officer. And women 33 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: are not as strong as men. And you didn't have 34 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: your door locked. You allowed this guy to open the door, 35 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: you stepped out, you got thrown into the ground. Maybe 36 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: you shouldn't be making contact with him. And if you're 37 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: gonna make contact, maybe it should have been with the 38 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: hood of your car. But guys blocking traffic, can you 39 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: know how I feel about people who block traffic? Knock 40 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: them down, wait for backup, Do something other than letting 41 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: your car be stolen by somebody who's clearly a freak. 42 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: Oh, tony, you don't know. He could have been having 43 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 2: a medical episode. Maybe it doesn't make stealing the car 44 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: any better. It's not an excuse. 45 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: But these kinds of conversations do make people uncomfortable. Men 46 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: and women are not the same, and women cannot do 47 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: what men do, and there are many many things men 48 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: cannot do that women can. 49 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: So what are we talking about here? 50 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,839 Speaker 1: Why in the world do we think this idea of equality, 51 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: no weight equity, no weight diversity. 52 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. 53 00:02:55,080 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: Whatever amalgamation of nonsense words salad we're putting together these days. 54 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: What makes us think of this is good? Our diversity 55 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: is our strength. 56 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: Not there, Washington State is less safe because they didn't 57 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: have somebody there who could stop this guy. 58 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: You let a guy open a door on you. 59 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: You didn't know if he had a weapon, You didn't 60 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: pull your weapon, you didn't do anything. 61 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: Was this your hey, let's try and uh, what is 62 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: it when they try and and and bring things down 63 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: de escalate? 64 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: Was this your de escalation policy to be thrown to 65 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: the ground like a rag doll. 66 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: We should be honest, We should be honest and. 67 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: Say, maybe, right there at that moment, out there in 68 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: the field, not a place for a female officer to be. 69 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: Why isn't that an okay thing to discuss? 70 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: Now, maybe after some debate and after some studying, after 71 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: some looking, Hey, this happens to men as well, and 72 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: here's the amount of cases that happens here, and here's 73 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: the case happens. And you can prove to me by 74 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: data that statistically this happens from time to time. And 75 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: then my response would be, how can we make it 76 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: happen statistically less? 77 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: But if you say to me, oh, you're just being 78 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: anti woman, stop it, stop it. 79 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: I am always interested in what's the best way to 80 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: handle these things? Who can best handle these things? I 81 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: said this about secret service. You take a woman who's 82 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: five feet tall and you put her in the protection 83 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: of Donald Trump, whose I don't know six whatever he is. 84 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. 85 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: And we saw many women when Trump got shot at Butler, 86 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: who clearly had no idea what was going on. Now 87 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: a full disclosure saying thing is true about men. 88 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: But the men seemed. 89 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: To be of a height that they could actually protect 90 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: the president and then knew how to put their gun 91 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: in their holster. But for not having tru dragged to 92 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: a car and driven off immediately, I would have fired everybody. 93 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: Then again, I would have also had somebody on the roof. 94 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: The roof is in plain sight. Oh, we can't have 95 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: everybody on there because the slope of the roof is 96 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: too much. 97 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: Stop it. 98 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: Any secret service officer afraid of the slope of that 99 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: roof can't be a secret service officer. Meanwhile, another day, 100 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: another breach AFLAC the insurance company. They did a review 101 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: and they find that twenty two million people were impacted 102 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: by a data breach. 103 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: This was June. 104 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: Social security numbers, insurance claims, in health information names, contact information, 105 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: health details were among the details obtained. 106 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: In the breach. Twenty two million. 107 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: Now, I work for a company that did get breached, 108 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: an insane story, and yeah, credit card got opened to 109 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: my name and bank accounts got infiltrated. 110 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: It took a while to get it all done. I am, 111 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 2: I am concerned about it all the time, all the time. 112 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: Am I perfectly okay with with the company that I'm 113 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: connected with that had to happened? No, no, no, no, 114 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: no no no no no no, And all is nuts 115 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: forgiven by any stretch of the imagination. But I think 116 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: the greater conversation here is that people have gotten very 117 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: used to the breaches. 118 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: We become a nerd to it, and so at what 119 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: moment do people stop caring? You just assume that your 120 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: data is out there. 121 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: You assume that it's it's being weaponized against you. You 122 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: assume that it's going to be used to harm you. 123 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: You assume you're going to get that email that says, hey, 124 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: here's free credit monitoring for two years, which, by the way, 125 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 1: is not a deal. I'm not saying you shouldn't have it. 126 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: That's not my point when you say to me, in 127 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: order to help with this, we've gotten you free credit 128 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: monitoring for two years. Good lord. I still have to 129 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: do the work. I am the one impacted. I'm the 130 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: one affected because in some cases of real blunders, and 131 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: in some cases, because we're not doing a good job 132 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: of finding the hackers and cutting off their hands. 133 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: Tony, you can't say that on radio? Why why not? 134 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: I could have said something worse. We could be cutting 135 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:30,239 Speaker 2: off something else. 136 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm assuming they were typing with their hands, 137 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: So I went for the went for the hands first. 138 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: Isn't that the kind of thing they do in third 139 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: world nations? Maybe, but they ain't got no hackers. 140 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: The hackers have to be dealt with, and I accept 141 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: the fact that it is oftentimes hard to find them. 142 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: When you find them, boom, hey listen, I'll go for 143 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: other things. We're not talking about cutting off a hand. 144 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: You can leave the entire area glowing and maybe inhospitable, 145 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: uninhabitable for a couple of decades. What I'm talking about 146 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: how we deal with the problem. 147 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: Why is that an issue? 148 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: Why in the world can't we say there's an issue here, 149 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: and there's a way to deal with this. 150 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: We got got to accept it. I don't. 151 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: I don't just accept it. I don't think other people 152 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: should just accept it. I think it's a terrible way 153 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: to go through life. And then there is story number three. 154 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: This is the headline Wall Street Journal, the case of 155 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: the four hundred thousand dollars Massachusetts lobster heist. This is crazy. 156 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: You want to talk about people who are engaged in 157 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: levels of fraud. 158 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: So here's this story. Starts with a fishing scam. 159 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: Not with fish, even though it's the lobsters phish, right, 160 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: When you try and get information, they do that via email. 161 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: So an email domain name was altered just slightly to 162 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: represent itself as being part of a real trucking company. 163 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: So this logistics firm in things it's hiring the trucking company, 164 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: but actually they've just gotten in bed with the culprits. 165 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 2: So then this guy arrives. 166 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: To collect a shipment of lobster, arrives at this cold 167 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: storage center run by a third party where this group, 168 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: this logistics firm, they've got you know, storage. So this 169 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: guy presents a fake commercial driver's license and the tractor 170 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: trailers from the real truck company. Okay, now it's just 171 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: a little too much. There's a real trucking company. There 172 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: is a real company storing and selling the lobsters. A 173 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: faker cat comes in via email utilizing a fake email 174 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: address that resembles the real trucking company, then is able 175 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: to show up at the storage facility, shows a fake 176 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: driver's license, but has a real truck. 177 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: A true big rig that is owned by the. 178 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: Real trucking company that this guy spoofed to be able 179 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: to get in the door to begin with, everybody following, 180 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: because that's insane, picks up. 181 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 2: The guy now picks up the lobster. 182 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: The lobster was heading for Costco Minnesota in Illinois. They 183 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: were gonna get some really nice lobster. They get into 184 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: the truck, the lobster's loaded up. 185 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: He's like, okay, thank it easy. Obviously that's what he said. 186 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: And then he drives off and they turn off the GPS. 187 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: This guy. 188 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: Drove off with four hundred thousand pounds of lobster and 189 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 3: has not been located. 190 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 2: For those of you who would follow any level of 191 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 2: what's it called mafia. 192 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: Kind of lore, tell me this doesn't have the weird 193 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: feel of the Luftanza heist, right the whole plane was 194 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: robbed and they recreated that story in Goodfellas, four hundred 195 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: thousand dollars worth a lobster goes into a trailer, goes 196 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: into a truck, and then disappears. Costco has no comment, 197 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: The local police department has no comment. The FBI is 198 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: looking into it. No one has found anything where it 199 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: gets really strange. Is not the story itself? Is this 200 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: follow up? Cargo thefts are a regular occurrence and growing 201 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: concern nationwide. What exactly how often is this happening? Well, 202 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: they don't give me data on that. They give me 203 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: data on this as it's in the Department of Homeland Security. 204 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: Cargo thefts account for fifteen billion to thirty five billion 205 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: in annual losses. Okay, that's real money, and that's why 206 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: you pay more for stuff. Now, it's no lawnger cute. 207 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, did you hear about this story? 208 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: Now? 209 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: It's uh, find these bastards and Tony's right, cut their 210 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: hands off. 211 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: Seriously, Tony, I don't think you could say that on air. 212 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: For the sake of my affiliates. I'm not actually saying 213 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: to do that. I am saying, prosecute these people. Wink, wink, everybody. 214 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: Everybody knows where I'm at now. Good, thirty five billion dollars. 215 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: You understand you're paying more for everything because of that, 216 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: because that loss gets made up you. We think the 217 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: Minnesota fraud story is a big deal, and it is 218 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: thirty five billion dollars. 219 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want the FBI working on this. Let 220 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: me let me at least explain a little bit deeper. 221 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: If we have them working on this, what serious things 222 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: do we not have them working on? We have thirty 223 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: five billion theft. I've got a video camera every seven 224 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: feet except at Brown University, and we can't find this 225 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: guy thirty five billion. We gotta find ways to end this, 226 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: and we have to have much harsher penalties so people 227 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: don't try this craziness. 228 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: Although some people will continue to be crazy. Three stories, 229 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: Three more things you needed to hear. Keep it here. 230 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Kats Today. Find it 231 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: all at tony kats dot com.