1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Wow, twenty twenty six is here, which means it's time 2 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: for a good year in review. It's a drink smoke, 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: come Tony Kass that is America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: and Ali, A very happy new year to you and 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: to yours and to your bourbon collection which hopefully you 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: will drink this very year, this very weak, this very day, 7 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: so we're going over it. Fingers moy already gave us 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: his top three bourbons of the year. In his top three, well, 9 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: one of them wasn't even a bourbon. He started with 10 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,959 Speaker 1: the Kirkland bottled in Bond that is from Costco. That 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: bourbon there on one hundred proof at twenty seven dollars 12 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: a bottle, coming in at number three. He then went 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: to the two XO a really good pick Oak. That 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: was a very very nice pick, forty nine dollars and 15 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: ninety nine cents a bottle, and he in his number 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: one pick went with the Redemption Rye Redwood Empire, Redwood 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: Empire Redemption Rye. He went with coming in at what 18 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: was that thirty five dollars a bottle, thirty five bucks bottle. 19 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: There his only rules, he made them for himself. He 20 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: wanted to stay under fifty dollars a bottle after that. 21 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: There are no rules except that we only are doing 22 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: the things that we reviewed on the show. And we 23 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: reviewed bourbons, and we reviewed rise and tequilas and RUMs 24 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: and canned cocktails. No Can cocktail major list. 25 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: Every Can cocktail makes my list. I'm just not being 26 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: specific what list it is. 27 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: It's funny because it's true. I've got my top three 28 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: to get to as well. Now fingers On only decided 29 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: some of the things that he was looking at was 30 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: specific to the idea of price. I did not pay 31 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: any attention to price whatsoever. Just so happens nothing is 32 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: above sixty dollars a bottle. Really, just so happy. I 33 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: did not look at price at all when I thought 34 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: about my bourbons of the year. Same thing is true 35 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: with cigars. We're smoking, by the way, from all of 36 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: other Master blends. Three, we're doing the Churchill seven by fifty, 37 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: coming in at seventeen dollars seventeen dollars and fifty cents 38 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: a stick. But as I said, you can find deals 39 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: on these things. And I'm way further I started smoking 40 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: earlier than fingers way further ahead than you you're into 41 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: the second third. I'm into the final third. It is 42 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: a coffee tobacco forward, a kind of stick, much stronger 43 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: than you would get from certainly the Oli A V 44 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: or what I love the Millennial. I think the Millennial 45 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: is a spectacular smoke. I've got them all over the 46 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: human Or. This is an add on because I was 47 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: able to find a good deal on bundles and I 48 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: have not regretted it at all, But it is definitely 49 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: a bigger stick Connecticut Broadleaf. There's a lot more strength 50 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: that you're feeling in this cigar. I'm pairing Die Coke. 51 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: He's got now a Die Coke? He did have coffee? 52 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: And then does it pair with our bourbon choices for 53 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: the day, Maybe not, but our bourbon choices are based 54 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,399 Speaker 1: on what we selected for the year. 55 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: The cigar is just wanted something nice to smoke with 56 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: the show. Yeah, great hand feel. If you're watching us 57 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: on YouTube right now, you can see I'm showing you 58 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: a nice even burn. The construction is fantastic, and like 59 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 2: you said, you can find it. Certain retailers will sell 60 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: it between eight and ten dollars. 61 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. When I got this, I found it online for 62 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: under ten dollars a stick, and I said, yes, please, 63 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: let's give that. And I never tried it. It's weird. 64 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: It it never fell into my my thinking because I 65 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: would be like the v or if I'm doing all 66 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: of the or the millennia, and it never fell into 67 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: my thinking. It is in retailers right here in Central 68 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: Indiana where we are retailers all across the country. But 69 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: I have found the deals online. I was like, that's fantastic, 70 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: and now it's in the Humitor and it's been a joy. 71 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: When you do something like that, when you buy a 72 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: stick that you've never tried before, you know absolutely nothing about. 73 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: Do you just like to buy one or do you 74 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: like to grab a five pack that you see a 75 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: lot of times so you can try it more than 76 00:03:59,320 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: what I have to. 77 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: Buy more than one because because of the notebook methodology, right, 78 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna go back, you know, and when you put 79 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: things into your notebook, what'd you eat today, what'd you 80 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: drink today? And you're breaking down the cigar. I'm always saying, 81 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: go back, you go back a month later, six months later, 82 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: whatever it is, and smoke it again. So I always 83 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: believe in two. I don't normally buy five packs. I 84 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: so there is a really fascinating philosophy about this. Where 85 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: the five pack, the packs are are they do sell well, right, 86 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: this is something that people buy asposed of buying a 87 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: whole box. I find the five pack packaging to be 88 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: disgustingly ugly, mediocre and low class to sell a fame, 89 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god, the whole thing. It just it looks 90 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: cheap as hell. And so when I think about doing 91 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: my own cigars we've talked about, I really thought twenty 92 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: twenty five was gonna be the year. It will be 93 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six of a Tony Kat's cigar or something 94 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: that's eat, drink, smoke endorsed. I've been working on this, 95 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: thinking about this, talk to people about this. I just 96 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: haven't found it yet. Really where I want to be, 97 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: Who I want to do this with. You know, I 98 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: have a couple of desires and maybe some I won't 99 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: be able to and some I will. This question about 100 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: the five pack comes up all the time, and I'm like, 101 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: the five pack is it's it's it is a cheap packaging. 102 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: Then you take a look at some of the packaging 103 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: that's out there, and it's like it's coming in a humidor. 104 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,679 Speaker 1: I am not a believer in this, the idea that hey, 105 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: buy this, uh these cigars and it comes in it 106 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: in a beautiful box that could be a humid or. Personally, 107 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: I'm not down for that. I think that's overkill. But 108 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: I do think that the presentation matters incredibly. It's so 109 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: much a part of the story. The band matters. All 110 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: these things do matter. They compliment. It sets an expectation level. 111 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: And I find the five pack to be just this. 112 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: It looks like cheap crap. It drives me crazy. 113 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: I will disagree with you slick lightly on the pack 114 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 2: that you can buy that comes in a humid or, 115 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 2: simply because that's what I bought for my first humid or. 116 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: It was like, oh, here's a sampler pack of cigars 117 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: and it comes in a humid or. Because I didn't 118 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: know at the time whether this was going to be 119 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: a lifestyle I was going to get into. And you know, 120 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: that's one thing we talk about all the time. When 121 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 2: you are spending a lot of money on these cigars, 122 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: you got to have a good place to store them. 123 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: And I didn't know if I wanted to jump right 124 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 2: in and buy an expensive humid or or you know, 125 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: so it came with the box. I found it very 126 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 2: quickly that when a lot of times when you buy 127 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: a pack like that, the humid or isn't something that 128 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 2: you're going to want to keep very long. 129 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: So now I can get into a whole humid or 130 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: conversation and how I want. Of the things I've been 131 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: working on in twenty twenty five is a new company 132 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: starting with somebody we know, the owner of Premiere Arms 133 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: and PA Jewelers here in Central Indiana, who I do 134 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: a lot of work with on the radio side, starting 135 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: a company called Oak and Iron Supply, very much based 136 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: on EDC every day carry items and things like that, 137 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: and we have brought in the a whole line from Zycard. 138 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: Now Zycar is not a sponsor of this show, and 139 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: you can use other cutters and other lighters and other humidors, 140 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: but I've brought in some of those things to have 141 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: in the shop, including the Calavera line, which is you know, 142 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: Dios de las Mortas kind of look with the skulls 143 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: and very colorful, and that humid or with that ashtray 144 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: and that cutter which you can get as a pack. 145 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: We'll be offering it on the show in the next 146 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and I chose that humidor for it 147 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: stal for it's looking that it would be a little 148 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: bit of an art piece, a little bit of a 149 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: great first humidor. And then you can, of course add 150 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: cigars to it as opposed to and it does come 151 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: with some cigars, but as opposed to when you go 152 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: out and you buy a box and all of a 153 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: sudden you realize the box price is so much more 154 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: expensive because it's also a humidor. So what you're talking 155 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: about was something purposeful. What other people do is engage 156 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: it as well. This is the packaging and therefore it's 157 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: commanding a higher price. That's the part that I have 158 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: issue with. But I still think about a cigar. But 159 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: right now we're thinking about bourbon. My top three bourbons 160 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: of the year, and they're not all bourbons that is. 161 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: That is my tease. Ladies and gentlemen, we will get 162 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: into that. Make sure you have subscribed to the podcast. 163 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: Wherever it is you get your podcast Eating Smoke YouTube, 164 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,599 Speaker 1: look for Eating Smoke and be a subscriber there. We 165 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: have a lot to get to. So how does one 166 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: determine the best bourbons of the year. Well, first of all, 167 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: you have to be a professional like myself and Fringers 168 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: MALOI yes, I determine if by weight. I called us professionals. 169 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: That's funny. See Drink Smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That is 170 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers molloy were not professionals. We 171 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: never have been. We've never made the claim. It's a 172 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: love of the art, it's a love of the juice. 173 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 1: It's wanting to try things and sharing with you at 174 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: that price, whether it's in our liquor cabinet or not. 175 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: We'll leave grading systems in that to others, and the 176 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: pretentiousness to others. And there's a lot of pretentiousness out there. 177 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: It's gotten really gross and really ridiculous. We are trying things, 178 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: we're sharing it with you. You agree, you disagree. I 179 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: hope you come back because we do appreciate you being 180 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: here quite a bit. We are doing our top three bourbons. 181 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: Fingers one I did his. I'm about to get into mind. 182 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: If you missed any part of it, get the podcast 183 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: wherever it is you get your podcasts, just look for Eat, 184 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: Drink Smoke and subscribe. So when I came up with 185 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: my list, and as we've discussed, I didn't have a 186 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: big list. I went through. Okay, here's what we drank 187 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: over the last year. I had four names. I had 188 00:09:55,240 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: four names on my list, and that that was it. 189 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you that in the in the number 190 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: four position for me, one of the things that I 191 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: that I came across was that I was only kind 192 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: of half torn on one of them. Only on one 193 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: of them. It was either to go with the bullet 194 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: bottled and bonded, which I found surprisingly good, or to 195 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: go with this as my number three. I went with this. 196 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: This is Espie house. This was the George seventeen ninety four, 197 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: the most expensive on my list at sixty dollars and 198 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: ninety nine cents a bottle. Look at you, sixty dollars 199 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: and ninety nine cents. I thought this was a very 200 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: very surprising, surprising piece. I had never heard of it. 201 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: I had never been around it. I was around anybody 202 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: who had heard of it. It's a very pretty nose, 203 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: very pretty nose. It had a lot of the sweetness, 204 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:14,599 Speaker 1: the caramel, bit, a butterscotch, some honey. It was it 205 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: was that it was surprising, I think is what took 206 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: me on this right here. This is the SB House, 207 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: not the SB Awards. That's that's ESPN. This right here, 208 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: the SB House. Let me see if I could throw 209 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: that into your camera. Look at that. I found it 210 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: to be just so pleasant, just easy. It kept in 211 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: my head. There are bottles that we try here, and 212 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: Fingers will take some with him. We end up giving 213 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: it away this state, this state, and I've always kind 214 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 1: of take kept an eye on it and taken a 215 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 1: look at it, realized that we drank it then, but 216 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: we haven't had it. And you're gonna have your number three. 217 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have my number three, and then I'll have 218 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: then I'll have my my number one. Right, that's just 219 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: a little sip rare here. Excuse me? Oh look at you? 220 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: He's he didn't he didn't even bother what the whole 221 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: Kentucky chew? Nah? Just I went right in. I went 222 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: right in right there? Is it tech a little sweeter 223 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: than you normally go for? Yeah? Well, first things first, 224 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: fifty one percent alcohol by volume or one hundred and 225 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: two proof, thank you, thank you very much. I don't 226 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: have a mash bill here. That's that's that's undisclosed. Yes, 227 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: a little bit sweeter, but beautifully beautifully presented, especially again surprising. Yeah, 228 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: sixty dollars is where a lot of people are like, Okay, 229 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: that's a kind of cutoff for me. I'm not so 230 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: sure if I want to spend that money. I'm telling 231 00:12:53,679 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: you A refinement, a a a beautiful, beautiful bit sweet. 232 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: There's a touch of heat that exists a center chest, 233 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: but it's it's just so pleasant, easy as neat, which 234 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: I think is one of the things that really moves me, 235 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: is it does it work neat? That's where I like 236 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: to be, not on the cube, not on the chip, neat, 237 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: And if it does, that's where I tend to go. 238 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: So s B House, this is the George seventeen ninety four. 239 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: They also have a weeded bourbon. This is this is 240 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: I just think is just just a beautifully, beautifully dounebourb I. 241 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 2: Feel like one of the themes this year, and it 242 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: may just be recency biased with me, but I feel 243 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 2: like I've noticed with a lot of the things that 244 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: we reviewed this year where you would drink something neat 245 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 2: and you're kind of like, ah, that's all right, and 246 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: then it took you going to putting it on a 247 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 2: rock before you're like. 248 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: Oh, okay, there were a couple that really did shine 249 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: when they were on when they were on a cube, 250 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: that is absolutely true, more than maybe in any year 251 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: we had that. I was like, okay, that's that's worthwhile. 252 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: But when it goes, when it comes for me to 253 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: say where is my money really going? What really moves me, 254 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: it has to be on the knee. The neat has 255 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: to work as a presentation piece before anything else happens. 256 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: So I'm the main I remember that being sweet as 257 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: to me if I remember it, and then I also 258 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: I thought there was also some like a little bit 259 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: of dark fruit to it as well. 260 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: If again. But here here's my question to you, coach. 261 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: The juice matters, But when you know you're putting together 262 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: a bourbon collection that's going to be on display, how 263 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: much does presentation matter? 264 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: Do you? That's a really cool bottle. Yeah, it's a 265 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: beautiful bottle. And the way it's done again, I think 266 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: presentation matters greatly. I think presentation matters a ton. I 267 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: think this is a beautiful give bottle to beautiful bottle. 268 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: To have everything about it, I just I just totally 269 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: dug it. The connection to George Washington, of course, and 270 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: they have a ride. They have something called the Midnight 271 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: which is in this black bott which is super cool. 272 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: So no, I dug it. So sp House is my 273 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: number three and very very very happy with them. Let 274 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: me get to a quick news story here and I'll 275 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: get to number two and number one coming up. You 276 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: have got Lows purchasing a competitor. It's not home Depot 277 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: that would take a lot of money. There's a group 278 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: called Foundation Building Materials that is being purchased for eight 279 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: point eight billion dollars. Now, some people would take a 280 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: look at this and say, wait, are people still really 281 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: doing any level of home renovations. They've got three hundred 282 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: and seventy locations in the US and in Canada, even 283 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: if you've never heard of them. And I would argue 284 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: that this is a great exact example of as the 285 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: economics of the country have changed, and people are done 286 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways with their home renovation projects 287 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: because they did that during during COVID. This is just 288 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: an opportunity thing. There was an opportunity to further increase 289 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: their market share. There was an opportunity for cash to 290 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: really talk as the people are dealing with a tougher 291 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: and tougher industry because well, you did so many home 292 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: renovations and so many's own projects during COVID that they 293 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: are they don't exists as much as they do. They 294 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: don't exist as much right now as they did then. 295 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: So it's a perfect opportunity. I really thought we'd see 296 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: more of this in twenty twenty five. I think we're 297 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: gonna see a bunch of this in twenty twenty six. 298 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: What's interesting is it appears as though this company, it 299 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: stocks more of the you know, like the construction type 300 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: stuff like the dry wall, hardware, commercial doors, insulation, not necessarily, 301 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 2: oh I want to go pick out a light fixture, 302 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: some of the stuff that Lows be. So it seems 303 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: like it's more of that type of product than what 304 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 2: Low's focuses on. 305 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be helpful to them in supply chains 306 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: and things like that. But the point is this isn't 307 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: as much of a sign of oh, the economy is 308 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: bad and the economy has plenty of issues as much 309 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: of Okay, there was an opportunity. That's the way I 310 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: take this by And let's see if it makes Lows 311 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: more competitive. Eat drinks smoking in your cigar and bourbon 312 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: foody extravaganza. I'm Tony Katz. That's Fingers myoay, Happy New 313 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: Year to you. I grabbed a robusto version. What's the matter? 314 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 2: I just quoted Eddie Money off air and I don't 315 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: know why. Well, if people knew you at all, it's 316 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: kind of like a normal thing. 317 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: When Henry Lee Summer was just waiting on deck and 318 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: I went with Eddie Money. I already finished my master 319 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: Blend's three at Churchill, so I grabbed the robo version. 320 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: Did you really I didn't even notice you do that? Wow? 321 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: You're welcome? Got what I do? Did you have them 322 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: both sitting next? Did you go to Wow? 323 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 2: I was so focused on having a really good radio 324 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 2: segment here I completely missed you leave the table. 325 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: So we're doing our top three bourbons of the year. 326 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: Fingers molloy did his, starting with number three, the Kirkland 327 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: Signature Bottled and Bonded bourbon. He went number two. He 328 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: went over to the two XO American Whiskey, which again 329 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: really nice pick, and. 330 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: He ended it with what was it called the It's 331 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 2: the Redwood Empire Emerald Giant rode. 332 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember the Redwood the Redwood Empire, which was 333 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: a pick from our digital expert Sarah Smith. So congratulations, Sarah, 334 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: you picked the number one right there. That was his 335 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: number one pick. My number three was the Spi House, 336 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: the George seventeen ninety four number two pick. Because if 337 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: we do this every year, we come up with our 338 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: top three. Some people do a top five or top ten, 339 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: but they're willing to do way more work than we are. 340 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: And it's based on what it is. We drank here 341 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: and we did bourbons, RUMs, tequilas, rise canned cocktails. We 342 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: could pick from any of those things. There really is 343 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: no rule other than that. Fingers molloy decided to keep 344 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: himself under fifty dollars a bottle that was for him 345 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: the thing that mattered for me. I paid no attention 346 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: to price whatsoever. It didn't matter to me. I didn't 347 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: think about it nothing. I said, what do I remember 348 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: and actually went back and listened to the episode. June 349 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, we happened to be at blend Barsigar. 350 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: We were happened to be there Blenbarsigar dot com, where 351 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: we've done a ton of our shows before we built 352 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: the studios here. 353 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 2: I have had. 354 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,479 Speaker 1: I am not an Irish whisky guy. I've never been 355 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: an Irish whisky guy. There was a bitter th that 356 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 1: doesn't work for me. I don't know if others would 357 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: call it a bitter, but to me, that's why I 358 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: call it. But there have been some that have just transcended. 359 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: There's a different flavor happening. I have felt really good 360 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: things about Redbreast, and I felt really good things about Middleton. 361 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: And on this day we did Keeper's Heart Irish and 362 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: American whiskey coming in at one hundred and ten proof 363 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: applause from Fingers molloy. And what I remember was this 364 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: was a first of all, it didn't taste like Irish whiskey. 365 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: This was a crazy luscious presentation. And we went back 366 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: and listened to the episode where I took the first 367 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: sip and I was like, smooth. It just it knocked 368 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,719 Speaker 1: me over, that spice that existed, that sting all throughout 369 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: the tongue. But it was just such a it was 370 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: so surprisingly not Irish whiskey that it elevated the experience 371 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: for me. This from the guys who had had been 372 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: doing the work at Jamison's, just this beautiful combination of 373 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: these two things. That was just bringing something. And the 374 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: word I kept using was luscious. How it filled the cheek, 375 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: How it it, you know, enveloped the entire mouthfeel there. 376 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: I love that stuff more and more. I'm loving that stuff. 377 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: So the Keeper's Heart, which I don't even have a 378 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: bottle here, I don't know where, and maybe because we 379 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: had it there and I didn't have a bottle here, 380 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: but I thought I had a bottle here. The Keeper's 381 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: Heart Irish and American one hundred and ten proof whiskey 382 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: is my number two bourbon of the year. It's Irish whiskey. 383 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: So there's only there's only one bourbon on my list. 384 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm telling you that's a little tease. There's only one 385 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: bourbon on my list for bourbons of the year. This 386 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: was a nice kind of okay, I wasn't expecting it. 387 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: How great is this bourbon coming in at forty four 388 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: dollars in ninety nine cents? Oh jeez, there you go. 389 00:21:58,800 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: It was under fifty. 390 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 2: So I remember, you know, and you and I listened 391 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 2: to the review again when when you mentioned this, the 392 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: first thing I said was, if I remember correctly, it 393 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 2: didn't hit you like a normal Irish whiskey, a typical 394 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 2: Irish whiskey, and I remember that, to be correct. I 395 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: wish I liked Irish whiskey more. I wish I liked 396 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 2: Scotch more. I those just aren't things that I moved by. 397 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: But I remember drinking that and enjoying it, thinking at 398 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: the time, this doesn't taste like a typical Irish whiskey 399 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: to me. 400 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I do. I also stay away from it. 401 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: I think this was a bartender or shortenaer Brian who 402 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: recommended this one to us, and it was just it was, 403 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: it was, it was great. It was a great, great feeling, 404 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: and there was on the nose an ethanol hit for sure, 405 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: one hundred and ten proof, but it was it was 406 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: a nice I thought about it. I've thought about it since, 407 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: and so that's why it's on my list at number two. 408 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: The Keeper's Heart Irish and American one hundred and ten proof. 409 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: So this is two in a row that are over 410 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: one hundred proof. Yeah, yeah, the the SB House was 411 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: one hundred and two one hundred and two proof. 412 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: So and I'm not saying that you shy away from 413 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 2: over one hundred proof, but it surprises me a little 414 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: bit that we are now playing with two over one 415 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 2: hundred per. 416 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: I'm saying the third will be like one hundred and 417 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: forty per. I am an enigma. I try my best figures. 418 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: The way we have News of the week to do 419 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: well we do. We have a series of things that 420 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: we need to get to. And we were talking about 421 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: the economy a little bit. You found this story at 422 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: USA today about retirees not taking required distributions, which is 423 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: really really weird. Vanguard, which of course is a massive, 424 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: massive fund. By the way, we don't give recommendations. You 425 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: invest wherever it is your investment professional tells you to invest. 426 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: Was looking at required minimum distributions right for one ks 427 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: ira is right? And how people weren't taking these distributions? Yeah, 428 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: and I don't know how that's possible. And twenty four 429 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: percent of people took a withdrawal that was too low 430 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: to meet the requirement. I found myself very, very confused 431 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: by this story. 432 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of people, unfortunately, you know, 433 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 2: want to do stuff on their own and just go 434 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 2: ahead and take withdrawals out without actually seeing what the 435 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 2: minimum that they're supposed to take out happens. And then 436 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 2: a lot of times too, I believe in the story, 437 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 2: it says people who have a really really small IRA, 438 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: like a really small balance, right, A lot of times 439 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 2: just well like ah, who needs to take your required 440 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: minimum withdraw out? 441 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: While you still do it doesn't matter what balances, it seems. 442 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: So if somebody had something as simple as five thousand 443 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: dollars and they're not taking out what they need to 444 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: take out is required, they're getting penalized for it and 445 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: they're not. You know, it's one thing when you've got 446 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: nineteen subscription services and you realize, like after eight months 447 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: you're still paying for that gym membership or after eight years, Right, 448 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: that's one thing. This is your investments, and that's the part. 449 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: And maybe that's the part that kind of struck me, 450 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: as wait, how is that possible? How are you not 451 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: and are are you managed through some level of organization 452 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: a TD A schwab And I'm just mentioning names. I'm 453 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: not a cute making any accusations and they're not telling you. 454 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: I don't I don't even know how any of this 455 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: is possible. 456 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 2: So USA Today has a story that we're referring to. 457 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 2: It says most investors who missed their mandatory withdrawal had 458 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 2: balances under five thousand dollars in their account. 459 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: I wonder because I've. 460 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: Noticed this, you know, with fingers Moist Senior moving in 461 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 2: a lot of these companies move away from snail mail 462 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 2: and want you to go to a strictly online notification 463 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 2: email or whatever. And maybe maybe some seniors are just 464 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 2: forgetting because they aren't getting snail mail. 465 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: Because well it could no, not because they're not getting 466 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: because they're not getting snail mail because they don't know 467 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 1: how to look at the other stuff. Yeah, it's not. Well, 468 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: that's a problem that that that is a serious issues 469 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: that kind of kind of blew my mind. I think 470 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: the other part of this is I'm taking a look 471 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: at this economy. I know the issues that are out there. 472 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: I'm surprised people aren't taking up more much more because 473 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: they're they're they're not keeping up with the the inflation, 474 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: they're not keeping up with the new property taxes, the 475 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: new car insurance to help everybody. I know, the help 476 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: insurance went through, not for me. I don't know why 477 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: health insurance went through. The freaking roof. People are out 478 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: of their heads about this. So I'm surprised that's something 479 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: more not being taken out. So this story kind of. 480 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: Blew my mind paranoia about making sure you have enough 481 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: you get through life. 482 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: So they're not taking it out because they might need 483 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: it for the quote unquote raining. That's even worse. It's 484 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: time to get to number one, my top bourbon of 485 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: the year. And Fingers molloy, it's not even a bourbon. 486 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: Oh well, I assume then it's a rye. See drink smoke, 487 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: come Tony Katz. That is America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers Moloi, 488 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: it's also not a rye. What it is shocking, but 489 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: it is true. We've been doing our top bourbons of 490 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: the year. FINGERSMILOI went first, starting as he did with 491 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: the Kirkland bottled in bond in third place. Second place 492 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: went to two XO American Whiskey. And he ends it 493 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: with the Redwood. What is it? The Redwood Redemption, the 494 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: Redwood rye, the you can't do the name. You keep 495 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: going with the redemption. You're throwing that in there. It's 496 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: the Redwood Empire, Emerald Giant rye. It's not redemption. No, 497 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: there's no redemption. Why am I saying redemption? There's never 498 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: any redemption. Ah, there it is. He was a fan 499 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: of it. That is his pick of the year. If 500 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: you missed anything, go back and subscribe to the podcast 501 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: Eating Smoke and you'll get all of this. My top 502 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: three is a unique list, he said, fingers did, I'm 503 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: not doing anything over fifty dollars, and he came up 504 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 1: with his list. I said, I'm not even paying attention 505 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: to that. What moved me? What is it that I remember? 506 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: And there were three things that I really remembered for really, 507 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: my honorable mention was the Bullet bottled in bond. Number 508 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: three was the Espie the George, which SPI house bourbon. 509 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: I thought was just absolutely terrific, and that is the 510 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: only bourbon on my list, which is super weird. Number 511 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,719 Speaker 1: two was the Keeper's Heart, which is the Irish American 512 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: whiskey one hundred and ten proof. Really something else, even 513 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,479 Speaker 1: with that big sting, it was something else. But number one. 514 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: Since we first tried it, and I'm not sure when 515 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: that was, just a few months ago, I think it 516 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: was early fall. I think it was early fall. I 517 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: have not stopped thinking about it. I've been places where 518 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: I purchased it for other people. I am surprised. I 519 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: still have the bottle. That bottle is right here. My 520 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: number one this year is the Baku twelve year Rum. 521 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: Absolutely positively, indubiably terrific. It came across a little thin 522 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: at the first, and I do think that that holds true. 523 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,239 Speaker 2: But what excuse me, I'm gonna take a sip. Right, Oh, 524 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 2: I look at you taking SIPs? You are you doing 525 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 2: the Memphis punch? You're doing the Kentucky chew? Oh? 526 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: Good gosh? What comes through in that sweetness, that creaminess. 527 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: I at the time, I said, you know it, it 528 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: ends a little bit bitter, but that could be the 529 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: the the dark chocolate that that's that's going on. Uh there, 530 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: the the people over there at picou rum dot com 531 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: be a c o O talk about it as a 532 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: tres leche's cake. That's a really nice description of this, 533 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: of this creaminess and of this this this this caramelized 534 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: kind of kind of feel. It is truly sensational. Now, 535 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: what's really weird is that my picks have much more sweetness. 536 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: Yeah than oak. I love Oak, except these picks tell 537 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: me that maybe my palate has changed and what I 538 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: like has changed. The smoothness here the no sting, the 539 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: richness that that that enveloping of the tongue, that feel 540 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: in the in the in the lower cheek, the the 541 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: finish that lingers and lingers with this, this, this colorful suite. 542 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: H and this this it's it's not like a traditional rum. 543 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: You're not getting You're not getting a Baccardi kind of 544 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: feel out of it. Just this this will pair with anything, 545 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: pairs with the cigar that we're doing. The Master Blend's 546 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: three would pair with almost any cigar in my humid or, 547 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: would go with dessert, go with after dinner, go with 548 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: before dinner, afternoons. It I'm telling you. The Baku rum 549 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: the twelve year has been a revelation. And they do 550 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: in eight years. Well, I think they do a five year. Also, 551 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: this bottle is thirty five dollars in ninety nineteen. Oh, 552 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: look at you. I cannot say enough about what I 553 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: felt about it then and how I continue to drink 554 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:52,959 Speaker 1: it now. Now you are correct. 555 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: We reviewed this the last weekend in September of twenty 556 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 2: twenty five. Shame on me for when I go to 557 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 2: the liquor store, I just walk to the bourbon section. 558 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: I don't know why I don't buy more of this 559 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 2: because I absolutely love it. 560 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: It's do you want some? No, I still have plenty 561 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: of my rye right here that I'm very happy with. 562 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: I found the Bakou room is a must. And at 563 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: thirty five ninety nine, I should have told people this 564 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: was your Christmas gift. Any party you're going to any afternow, 565 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: year's probably here. It is boom. 566 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 2: No. 567 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: No, there are no regrets, none, not a single regret 568 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: going on. 569 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: To a very successful twenty twenty six, the Baku twelve 570 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 2: year for me, the Redwood Empire, Emerald Giant Rye. 571 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: I have to pose this question to you. Sure I'm 572 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: not proposing a change. 573 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 2: To what we do to the show to what I'm 574 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 2: about to ask you to you drink Smoke Nation to 575 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 2: our Bourbons of the Year. Do you think people get 576 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 2: annoyed that we call it Bourbons of the Year when 577 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 2: a vast majority of the drinks a lot of years 578 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 2: are not bourbon. 579 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: No, no one's listening, I'm not. Uh. We we call 580 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: it what we call it. I mean, we talked about 581 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: the show as the it is it is. It is 582 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: radio wise of the largest bourbon and cigar radio review 583 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: program in the country. That's what we are. We're on 584 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: more radio stations than anybody there. I think there are 585 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: some podcasts that are bigger than us, but in terms 586 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: of radio, there's there's absolutely no one bigger. And we 587 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: call it what we call it, and I think that. 588 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: I mean, if you think we should change and instead 589 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: of being your cigar bourbon foody extravaganza, We've done more 590 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: food this year than ever before. We're getting much better 591 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: at that. I'm just talking about the list. Should we 592 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: Should we be the cigar beverage foody No, I'm not 593 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: talking about the show. We can we can expand it out. 594 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: Do you want to change it? We can call it 595 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: the Joe Rogan podcast. That's not taken. You want to 596 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: call it the Adam Carolla Show. 597 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 2: What about the Runner podcast? What was the name of 598 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 2: What was the name that runner from Last Hour? Jimmy 599 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 2: Jimmy Smith's not Jimmy Smith's. 600 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy Smith's was an actor from La Law and West Wing, 601 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: and he, of course endorsed the Dewey Potty pott is 602 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: how you clean out your sinus? 603 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 2: Uh? 604 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: The listen, we we can now, I think we're fine. 605 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: What I did it was called Bourbons of the year. 606 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: Those are my three and I'm telling you the bakoup 607 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: is fantastic. I'm sorry I didn't find this earlier in 608 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 1: my life. It's just terrific. Now if you missed anything, 609 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: it is there at Eat Ring Smoke. We get the 610 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: podcast wherever does you get your podcasts? Also? Uh, two 611 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: things First, Defiance Beef dot Com. That's where you get 612 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: your steaks. You know how good the bookoo Rum is 613 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: with a Rabbi from Defiance Beef. Absolutely sensational. 614 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 2: Uh. 615 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 1: It is right here in Indiana, directly to your table. 616 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 1: Everything cuts your specifications, frozen, individually packed and then sent 617 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: to you. The strips, the rabbis, the tenderloins, the stew meat, 618 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: the skirt steaks, the briskets, it's all there. Order a 619 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: quarter coow, halfcow, fold cow, whatever it is. We've been 620 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: having a ball with these things. It's sirloins. Earlier in 621 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: the week. Got some ground beef to frosting right now 622 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 1: go to Defiancebeef dot Com. Defiancebef dot Com. Use promo code, 623 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: Eat Drink Smoke. Get one hundred and fifty dollars off 624 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,439 Speaker 1: your order right now. Incredible beef age twenty one days 625 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: tremendous flavor. You're going to love it. Finally, something you 626 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: can be happy to feed the family with defiancebef dot 627 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: com use promo code eat drink smoke. You want to 628 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: go in on a full cow with a buddy, you 629 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: do that defiancebef dot com promo code eat drink smoke. 630 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: That's number one, number two. What do we have geared 631 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: up for twenty twenty six, Well, first, next week we've 632 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: got our Cigars of the Year. We wait until after 633 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 1: the year is over to do our top three bourbons 634 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: and our top three cigars. We will be doing Cigars 635 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: of the Year next week. We still have more drinks 636 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: to do. We've got more tequilas to add and other things. 637 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 1: We have been working well on the food and we're 638 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: gonna be building that out There's They're the only thing 639 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: we didn't get to this year fingers that we want 640 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: to was the book we did not get to. Let's 641 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: go grill. I want that done. And I also want 642 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: to bring about the cookbook. We've been talking about this, 643 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 1: We've been sharing recipes, talking about things. They're things that 644 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: we've tried from others and we want to bring to people. 645 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: So that's on tap for twenty twenty six, but mostly 646 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: just a quick thank you. It was an incredible year 647 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: for us, incredible year for growth and for we were 648 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: trying things with the videos and we're seeing great success there. 649 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: So YouTube dot com slash Eat Drink Smoke. Check that out. 650 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: The new website you should be seeing in about a week. 651 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: For Eat Drink Smoke. You just go to Eatdrink Smoke 652 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: show dot com. Nothing about that changes for you. Looking 653 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: forward to that, and thank you Eat Drink Smoke Nation 654 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: for all the support. Fingers with way Tony Kats Eat 655 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: Drink Smoke. Happy New Year everybody,