1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:01,600 Speaker 1: He look. 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 2: Nichel show. Now, my name is Nigel. Jason Hammer's back 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 2: with a very special guest on the Hotline. 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 3: He's got a show tonight starting at seven. But we're 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 3: gonna get some bonus tonas right now. Tony Kennett of 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 3: the Tony Kennet Cast joins us. Tony, walk me through 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 3: what you your elite team of fact finders and inside 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 3: source folks are saying about the Save America Act. 9 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 2: Oh well, I. 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: Hate to break it to you, but you guys are 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: about to get the woole yanked over your eyes. And 12 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: I really hate to be the bearer of that bad news. 13 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: But this is something that caused me to rant like 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: an angry dwarf last night on the air. And here's why. 15 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: So we've been talking to the Save America Act. Thune 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: doesn't want to break the filibuster. He doesn't want to 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: even use the walking filibuster, which wouldn't require a huge 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: rule breaking shenanigan. And so therefore they don't have sixty votes. 19 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: So what do you do? 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: You tell everyone you're going to pass it through reconciliation 21 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: otherwise known as the thing you use for budgets, Like, well, 22 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: maybe you don't want to spend another five grand on 23 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: Nebraska because Nebraska sucks. In said you want to spend 24 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: that five grand here in Indiana, Congress would do that 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: through reconciliation. So they're telling everyone that, because you only 26 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: need fifty one votes for a reconciliation measure, then maybe 27 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: they'll just sneak in some Save America voter ID stuff 28 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: into reconciliation. Mahaha. And the reason you haven't heard that 29 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: one until just now is because that's dumb. That is 30 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: not going to work. The parliamentarian is going to throw 31 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: that out and it's really stupid, and I'm embarrassed that 32 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: they're currently running with this. 33 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 3: So let's go to the guy that's in charge of 34 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: the Senate majority, Senate Leader Thoon. Based on this grading 35 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: scale and this grading scale, only Tony has he been 36 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: awful or really awful. He's the kind of awful that 37 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: makes you cringe when you're watching a cold open of 38 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 3: like Parks and Rec or The Office and you're watching 39 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 3: it in real time and it just hurts your soul, 40 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 3: like you get like an ache down in the pancreas 41 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 3: near the intestines and you're like, oh, I don't want 42 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: to watch this that's kind of what fun has turned into. 43 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: So fune has turned into a burning sensation you may 44 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 3: get at some point on your body, like this is 45 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: so overwhelmingly popular with Republicans, Democrats, whites, Blacks, Hispanics. It's 46 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: like the one thing everybody can agree on. But we're 47 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 3: never going to see the light of day on this thing. 48 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: No, And the reason is because the Senate is really, 49 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: really really lazy. That's that's the truth. That's the truth 50 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: of the matter. You have Senator Jim Banks, who actually 51 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: wants to get legislation passed through the Senate, and then 52 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: you have Todd Young. Well, some days Todd Young wakes 53 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 1: up and he wants to pass things. Some days Todd 54 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: Young wakes up and he's not thinking about doing his 55 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: job in the Senate at all. Now that's not unique 56 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: to Todd that's actually a lot of our senators because 57 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: we don't really hold them accountable at the state level. 58 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 1: That's a voter issue, also a slight amendment issue, but 59 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: that's another talk for another time. So, I mean, you 60 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: have this entire body that could pass something really popular, 61 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: but no one snatches victory, or excuse me, no one 62 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: snatches defeat from the jaws of victory quite like Republicans do, 63 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: super big winning issue, right, We're gonna say screw it 64 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: and spike. 65 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 3: The ball into the ground one hundred percent. All right. 66 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 3: So on the subject of Trump, and you brought up 67 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 3: the name of Senator Jim Banks. Trump's been endorsing some 68 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: odd choices of Republicans going against those that were endorsed 69 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: by Jim Banks or Todd Rakeita your thoughts on Trump 70 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: just willy nilly throwing out these endorsements for people like 71 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 3: Liz Brown who were against constitutional Carrie don't believe in 72 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 3: full First Amendment. I'm sorry, Second Amendment rights for so 73 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 3: many people like what's going on here? 74 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna love with you guys. And it's the exact 75 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: same thing that I have said since the very first 76 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: time this was brought up when I was just a 77 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: wee lad guest hosting very very occasionally when you know 78 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: Nigel had had thrown up too much the previous show 79 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: that is Trump's Trump's endorsements mean nothing. They mean nothing. 80 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: They don't do a ton everyone. Every year we go 81 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: through this in an election, Who's Trump gonna endorse? Oh boy, 82 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: it's gonna matter. It's not gonna matter. It's gonna shift 83 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: about as many people's opinion as Taylor Swift. I'm gonna 84 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: let you guys in on a little secret. Very few 85 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: people are going to vote and go, well, wait a minute, 86 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: who does this other person think that I should vote for. 87 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: That's very rarely a thing in every midterm election that 88 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: the name Trump has been floated around the president of 89 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: the United States or then the former president. During Joe 90 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: Biden's term, it didn't mean anything, and I just hate 91 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: to break I don't think the presidents it's around going. 92 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: All right, let's look at Indiana. 93 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: Oh wow, we've got some real stinkers. 94 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: I better start slapping endorsements. I don't really see that. 95 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 3: I just but is it kind of an insult to 96 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 3: Jim Banks specifically, because that dude's been as loyal as 97 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: anybody has been to Trump and here comes, you know, 98 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: the total, you know, misdirection of the endorsement here. 99 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: So this is why I would argue that it's very, 100 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: very very unlikely that Trump is sitting there himself and 101 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: slapping out these endorsements. I really do think that there's 102 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: a staffer on the team that either had some very 103 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: nice deal or someone on her team did some kind 104 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: of a favors or someone in the administration and they said, 105 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm going to get you that Trump endorsement. 106 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: And do you know how I know that because I've 107 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: been offered those kind of things before. So I mean, 108 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: it's not that special as much as I again, Trump 109 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: is not the chess masters sitting there going all right, 110 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: I've got three endorsements today, let's look at the candidates. 111 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: I don't think that's Trump. I mean, he's never acted 112 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: that way in his entire life. What would have been. 113 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 3: Your price, tag, Tony Kenne if you were one of 114 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 3: those butt sniffers and they said, listen, Tony, can we 115 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: call you Tonas? Tonas? We really want you to endorse 116 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: Gabe Whitley for this local run in Indiana. 117 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: Oh, slip my wrists. I would say, a lifetime sponsorship 118 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: by Albanese gummies. I wish I was joking. You get 119 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: Albany's gummies to sponsor my show or Celsius Energy drank y'all. 120 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: I'll endorse whoever you want. 121 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 2: Do you think going back, you mentioned the filibuster, so 122 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: we don't need this sixty majority of the supermajority or whatever. 123 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: To get legislation passed. Do you think getting rid of that, 124 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 2: although I know it's a complicated process, do you think 125 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: it would be a good idea? Because eventually, in my opinion, 126 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: when the Democrats finally take over again, it's bound to happen, 127 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 2: they're going to get rid of the filibuster, and so 128 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: we might as well do it. Now, that's my opinion, 129 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: what's yours. 130 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to be kind of well, I am 131 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: of the opinion that just tearing things down in the 132 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: institution because you want to is not necessarily the best way. 133 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: He who tears something apart to find out what it's 134 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: made out of is a bit of a fool. But 135 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: in this case, we've already torn a bunch of stuff apart. 136 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: The government is no longer balanced like it's supposed to be, 137 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: And so yeah, if we're going to have to do 138 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: simple majority stuff to get simple majority stuff through, then 139 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: so be it. You're right. The second the Democrats get 140 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: back in office, every single one of them that are 141 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: left because Joe Manchin and Kristen CineMo, who stopped it 142 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: last time, they're not they're not around anymore. 143 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: So of course the. 144 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: Democrats are going to try to add states in do 145 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: all this extra junk. So yeah, go ahead and get 146 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: rid of philibuster. Let's get a little bit of work 147 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: done at least before you know, we walk feet first 148 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: into hell. 149 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: Tony Kennett with us Tonas, we were just talking about 150 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 3: the Save Act and the polling shows that it's pretty 151 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 3: popular from different demographs, demographics of people. Here's a tweet, 152 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: and I'll let you respond to this because you were 153 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 3: tagged in this too hetero, Hebrew writes at us at 154 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: Hammer and Nigel, too bad. You don't have a clue 155 00:07:55,480 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 3: why this Save Crap Act is actually unpopular. So Tony, 156 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 3: I'll turn to you here. Why would people feel like 157 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 3: it's unpopular? 158 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: Ah? Well, the excuse changes every couple of seconds. So 159 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: first it was because black people were poor. That was 160 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: their argument, not mine. Then it was because women were stupid, 161 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: that was their argument, not mine. Then was that it 162 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: was going to erase all of the voter roles, only 163 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: the Democrats because apparently, and then they weren't going to 164 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: tell you until election day. And then it was well, 165 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: actually we do have voter ID law, until of course, 166 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: then it was discovered that no, California and Minnesota, and 167 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: again the states in between. Several blue states across the 168 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: country do not have unified in specific voter ID law. 169 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: And again, when you look at the Department of Justice's 170 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: recent release of three hundred thousand found on the voter 171 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: rules who are no longer with US, at least ten 172 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: thousand from just ten states who are illegal immigrants that 173 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: are on the voter roles. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure 174 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: that people who don't know what they're talking about are 175 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: terrified of the voter rolls. Whatever Jennifer Welch tells them 176 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: on her podcast where she complains about JD Vance's mixed children. 177 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: What about this idea for the Republicans that they're concerned 178 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: about doing a way or actually clamping down at the 179 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: very least on mail in ballots and voting. 180 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of issues with mail in 181 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: ballots the way that they're currently set up in that 182 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: you can just simply cast a ballot from wherever you 183 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: are in the country if you are registered to vote, 184 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: and that if you do so on election day, which again, 185 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: if you're at election day and it's time to pull 186 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: out a ballot, just go to vote now. Again, for 187 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: cases like certain kinds of absent tee ballots, or if 188 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: you're serving in an official capacity and you have to 189 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: cast a ballot a different way, well, that definitely matters, 190 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: and I think that there need to be exceptions. Obviously 191 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: we have to talk about our troops voting absent tee, 192 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: but the way that it is currently set up in 193 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: states from Mississippi to Michigan, those are some loose standards 194 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: that doesn't always bring the best of things there. 195 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 3: Tony, We've got about thirty seconds left here of chatter. 196 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: That's CNN about to have a round of mass layoffs 197 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 3: changes to their programming. They're already trying to make Jake 198 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 3: Tapper look cool with like a home podcast type of 199 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: studio that really just gives off that early ESPN two 200 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 3: vibe when they put Keith Olberman in a leather jacket. 201 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 3: What do you think of the changes potentially coming to CNN? 202 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: I mean, lol, Jake Tapper's currently trying to mimic my 203 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: set so when he's podcasting from his office, so best 204 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: of luck to him. My numbers are already about dwarf 205 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: in his anyway, So good luck, Champ. 206 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 3: What's coming up on the big show coming up tonight? 207 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: Well, we got big girls on the big show, and 208 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: I mean big fraud from big ladies like JB. Pritzker 209 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: and Gavin Newsom and Gretchen Whitmer. 210 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I do think there is a difference in 211 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 3: body type though, between Gavin Newsom and JB. Pritzker. I'm 212 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 3: just gonna throw that out there. There is a little 213 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 3: bit of a difference. One of the quote girls is 214 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: bigger than the other, just throwing that out there. 215 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: That's true. One's got a really big heart though, you 216 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: know that's drawing the camera. 217 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: An enlarged heart, I think is what you meant. 218 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 3: Seven o'clock tonight, right after our show, it's the Tony 219 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 3: kinnet Cast. If you want to be a great American, 220 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: tune in and check it out. Tonas, thank you. You 221 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 3: guys are the best. It's the Hammer and Nigel Show. 222 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 3: We're coming right back.