1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Line from Vaal Hartbland and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: So we're on day six of the shutdown, and I 4 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: don't think anybody cares in that people who aren't getting 5 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: paid by the government, who like work in. 6 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 3: The military, they care. 7 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: But as a matter of a conversation that is moving America. 8 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 3: Nope. 9 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 2: And the idea that Chuck Schumer or Hakim Jeffrey is 10 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: the leader of the Senate for the Democrats, leader of 11 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: the House for the Democrats, respectively, are making any headway 12 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: by calling this a Republican shutdown. That doesn't seem to 13 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: be happening either. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to 14 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: be with you. Senator Todd Young joins us right now, 15 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: Republican senator, senior senator from Indiana, and sir, you've got 16 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: the front row seat to the end of the world 17 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: as we know it. The fundamental argument here seems to 18 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: be Chuck Schumer in transigent and discussing that Republicans aren't 19 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: doing enough for healthcare. That has been their one and 20 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: only argument to engage a continuing resolution that will only 21 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: take us November twenty first, as you see it is 22 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 2: this Chuck Schumer's real argument. 23 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: Is this the Democrats only argument? 24 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: Are they arguing something else or is this just something 25 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: they're saying to try and show how tough they are 26 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 2: against Donald Trump. 27 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 4: Well, thanks for having me on, Tony. In fact, I'm 28 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 4: outside the Indianapolis airport about to head back to DC, 29 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 4: and you are correct, there is no near term crisis. 30 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 4: That is a current. I don't doubt that their federal 31 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 4: employees and perhaps certain program beneficiaries that might be anxious 32 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 4: about this shutdown showdown, and this will become more serious 33 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 4: as the days go on, and it's important for us 34 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 4: to have a functional federal government. 35 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 3: But make no. 36 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 4: Mistake, this is a manufactured crisis, manufactured by Chuck Schumer 37 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 4: and by Minority Leader Jeffers Jefferies over in the House. 38 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 4: And why they're doing this, this is because they have 39 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 4: no power. They were rejected last November in the election, 40 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 4: their platform was rejected, and their far left wing base 41 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 4: is insisting that they fight. They fight against Donald Trump, 42 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 4: they fight against the Republican Party, and this is gesture politics. Now, 43 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 4: there are substantive disagreements, of course, but between Republicans and Democrats, 44 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 4: that is arguably what the election was about. It was 45 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 4: about these very substantive disagreements. So we have disagreements on healthcare. 46 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 4: Those continue, We've had those for years. I, for one, 47 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 4: want to address the root causes of healthcare dysfunction and 48 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 4: continuing price increases. The Democrats and I might be able 49 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 4: to find some measure of common ground on some of 50 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 4: these issues. But it is unfair for the Democrats to 51 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 4: expect Republicans to come to the table under duress under 52 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 4: a government shut down scenario. That would be a bad 53 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 4: precedent to establish, especially when I think so many Americans 54 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 4: understand exactly what is happening here. One more thing. This 55 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 4: is a clean short term funding bill, meaning we don't 56 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 4: add any substantive measures to it. We just want to 57 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 4: keep government open until mid November so that we have 58 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 4: time to negotiate spending packages, which is how Congress is 59 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 4: supposed to work. The Democrats are categorically and as a 60 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 4: matter of principle, they tell us opposed to voting for this, 61 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 4: But when they were in control of the Senate just 62 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 4: a year ago, they voted thirteen times for clean short 63 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 4: term funding bills. This is under President Biden. Actually it 64 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 4: extends back a year, but during his four years in 65 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 4: office thirteen times. So this is nothing new. Let's not 66 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 4: be deceived by the Democrats talking points. 67 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: But I think what makes it weirder is that this 68 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 2: is a seven week cr to get us to November 69 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 2: twenty first. We're not even discussing this is okay, six months, 70 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: seven months worth of Congress, with all due respect, not 71 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: doing their job and passing a budget. This isn't six 72 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: seven months of continuing resolutions. Start talking to Centator Todd 73 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: Young of Indiana, this is seven weeks. What happened in 74 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: seven weeks on November twenty first. 75 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, in seven weeks we'd be faced with this very 76 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 4: same situation. So in the interim, and this is where 77 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 4: there is I think, you know, there is a ray 78 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 4: of hope for those of us who who don't want 79 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 4: government to be shut down, who don't believe that the 80 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 4: American people sent people like myself to Washington to shut 81 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 4: government down, but instead make it work. My hope is 82 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 4: that we can come up with an arrangement where we 83 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 4: will have everyone vote for this short term clean spending 84 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 4: bills the President has insisted we do, and then we 85 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 4: use that opportunity to pass the bipartisan spending bills that 86 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 4: we've worked on together. That's how Congress is supposed to work. 87 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 4: That's what President Trump wants us to do, and I 88 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 4: agree with him. Instead, what Chuck Schumer has done in 89 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 4: modern history is when are spending committees called Appropriations Committee 90 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 4: come up with these bills, he doesn't bring them to 91 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 4: the floor when Democrats are in the minority, because he 92 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 4: likes to craft bills behind closed doors and lard them 93 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 4: up with his own little goodies. And that is a 94 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 4: horrible way to do business, and it must end. 95 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: Talking to Senator Todd Young of Indiana, if you have 96 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 2: a crystal ball. 97 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: Sir, how much longer is this thing going to last? 98 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 4: You know? It feels like things are starting to break 99 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 4: loose very slowly. We've already had three Democrats that have 100 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 4: voted for the short term clean funding bill. We need 101 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 4: a handful more, and so I think it'll take roughly 102 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 4: another week before we can start to see some light 103 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 4: at the end of the tunnel. 104 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 2: I can't tell you right now, sir, do you think 105 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: we're another seven days from right now? 106 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 4: It's conceivable. I've heard thirty days. I've heard, you know, 107 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 4: thirty hours. So it's really hard to tell in these situations. 108 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 4: But I think I think we're looking at at least 109 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 4: sometime next week. 110 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: Let us you know you really quick. 111 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: You mentioned some Democrats who have pulled away and voted 112 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: for this clean cr As you're describing it, there's a 113 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: real conversation here about Chuck Schumer's leadership. You know, politics 114 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: don't exist in a vacuum. It is does the leader 115 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: of the Democrats in the Senate make the Democrats look good, 116 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: make fundraising easier, create opportunities, or does he make their 117 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: life or does the leader make their life tougher? 118 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: It would seem to me that Chuck Schumer is now 119 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 3: making everybody's life. 120 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: Tougher because as a matter of trying to move the 121 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: message or control the narrative, they've lost the plot. They 122 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: don't have it. They're the ones scene as being in transigent. 123 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: Is there a conversation that if enough Democrats do pull 124 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: over to make this happen against the wishes of Chuck Schumer, 125 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: that his days as a leader could be numbered, or 126 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: at least he would be significantly neutered. 127 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 128 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 4: I have no visibility into what the Democrats are talking 129 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 4: about in terms of, you know, who their leaders should 130 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 4: be and and you know what their leaders should do. 131 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 4: All I can speak to is this current predicament that 132 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 4: I think the Democrats are in as they try and 133 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 4: play to their base and through of you know, a 134 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 4: form of virtue signaling, demonstrate their frustration with President Trump. 135 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 4: So you know, it's important for them to get past this. 136 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 4: So I'm encouraging them to do that. But you know 137 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 4: it's important for our country too. We got important stuff 138 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 4: to deal with. Not to change the subject, but you know, 139 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 4: we got a shipbuilding bill that President Trump was talking about, 140 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 4: yes or in front of, and he was standing in 141 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 4: front of a bunch of sailors celebrating the two hundred 142 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 4: and fiftieth anniversary of United States Navy and saying, we 143 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,599 Speaker 4: need to become a maritime power again, and we have 144 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 4: forgotten how to build ships in this country. So I'm 145 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 4: leading the charge on the Republican side in the Senate 146 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 4: so that we can build ships again. You know, we're 147 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 4: not talking about that aside from on the Tony Cats Show, 148 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 4: because we're focused on this other near term crisis. So, 149 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 4: I mean, this is how republics die if you pancake 150 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 4: together enough dysfunction on a day to day basis, you 151 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 4: lose the big picture, important issues that help keep a 152 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 4: safe and secure and prosperous. And we need to get 153 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 4: back to the big picture stuff, which is why President 154 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 4: Trump was elected, That's why I ran for office, and 155 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 4: we're being distracted from this by the short term, self 156 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 4: indulgent politics of the far left. 157 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: Let's talk about shipbuilding. 158 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 2: It is something that you have been discussing talking to 159 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: Senator Todd Young, Republican Senator from Indiana, the senior Senator. 160 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,239 Speaker 2: I'm a believer in the three hundred and forty ships concept, 161 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: that that's what we need to be able to have 162 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: a navy that matters, whatever happens with your army, with 163 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: the marines, with drone technology, all sorts of things. You 164 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: need to get goods from point A to point B. 165 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 2: You need control the navigable seas you need in every 166 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 2: way shape and form a navy that can go out there. 167 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 2: Submarines we seem to do well, but not everything else. 168 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: So when you talk about shipbuilding, are you talking about 169 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: aircraft carriers and destroyers or are we talking about cargo 170 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: vessels and other things. 171 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 4: I'm talking about cargo vessels and other things in addition 172 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 4: to those traditional platforms. The experts tell me that we 173 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,599 Speaker 4: still need to invest and in some of those platforms, 174 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 4: but we certainly need to diversify into other areas, including 175 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 4: autonomous maritime vessels, which we've seen the Ukrainians in particular 176 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 4: use to good effect. I mean, Ukraine doesn't have a navy. 177 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 4: They have jet skis with bombs on them that they 178 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 4: have increasingly been able to adapt, and now they're making 179 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 4: autonomous vessels. So they have demonstrated how to sink command 180 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 4: ships in the Black Sea without even having a proper navy. 181 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 4: So you better believe we should be rethinking the mix 182 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 4: of ships. But let me tell you how critical our 183 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 4: situation is. In addition to our inability to rapidly produce 184 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 4: the sort of naval vessels we need, we can't produce 185 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 4: the merchant vessels. We have the capacity only to make 186 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 4: five merchant vessels a year in this country because we 187 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 4: don't have a sufficient labor force or the capacity within 188 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 4: our ports to make more. If you're going to be 189 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 4: a global trading nation as we are, our prosperity depends 190 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 4: on it. You can't be dependent on other nations, including 191 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 4: your chief adversary, to make your shipping vessels. So what 192 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 4: we aim to do is build two hundred and fifty 193 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 4: vessels ocean going merchant vessels over the next ten years. 194 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 4: So what my legislation would call for, it would facilitate 195 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 4: the training of your welders and naval architects and electricians 196 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 4: and all the rest, and then when those workers aren't 197 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 4: building merchant ships, they would be available to help build 198 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 4: navy ships. I'm told this is the only way we 199 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 4: could build the requisite number of navy ships is to 200 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 4: have this flexible workforce concept. And the only way we're 201 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 4: going to tap into the workforce is to train people 202 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 4: across the Industrial Midwest and some other surrounding states have 203 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 4: some spare capacity. So it's a real opportunity to mobilize 204 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 4: and make use of the talents and energies of people 205 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 4: across the Industrial Midwest to rebuild our maritime power. And 206 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 4: I think people in Indiana and beyond should be really 207 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 4: excited about that possibility. 208 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: Before I let you go, Sir, center Todd Young joins 209 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: us right now, a lot was made of Secretary of War. 210 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 3: Maybe still people call them the Secretary of Defense. 211 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 2: Pete Hagsa's speech to the generals and admirals that were 212 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: assembled regarding standards. You served in the Marine Corps, you 213 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: have an understanding of the standards. What was your take 214 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 2: on that speech? To go too far or is it 215 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 2: good to get back to basics now? 216 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 4: I think it's good to get back to basics. I 217 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 4: didn't know what the content of his speech is going 218 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 4: to be. I watched much of it that morning on Fox, 219 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 4: and you know, I think it was standard fair. Let's 220 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 4: get back to basics. Let's make sure that we have 221 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 4: a warrior culture, one that is not indulging in, you know, 222 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 4: various social experiments within our military, but instead focused on 223 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 4: fighting and winning and hopefully I have avoiding wars. And the 224 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 4: way you do that is to be ready and to 225 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 4: make sure everyone is ready and that we're not lowering 226 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 4: standards artificially to accommodate certain interest groups or certain individuals. 227 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 4: And physical standards in particular ones that he emphasized. I 228 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 4: don't think you should artificially lower any standards, so that 229 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 4: ought to be common sense. Unfortunately that's fallen a bit 230 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 4: out of favor. And I think it was a well 231 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 4: delivered message. You know, whether it had to all be 232 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 4: in person or not, I think is a side issue, 233 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 4: but the substances is what I think will endure. 234 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 2: Senator Todd Young, I appreciate you taking the time to 235 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 2: be with us, appreciate the conversation, and we'll talk more 236 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: in the future. Center Todd Young, thank you. As always, 237 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: more coming up. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.