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Speaker 1: They seized a fan morning show with Kabi Shaby and Jeff.

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Speaker 2: Here's the staff.

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Speaker 3: Fernando throws it up field, catches made at the thirty

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Speaker 3: four yard line.

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Speaker 2: Great grab.

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Speaker 4: Here's who's your done already Fernando Mendoza is on the ground.

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Speaker 2: I did not see it.

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Speaker 5: So Fernando gets decked on the first play of the

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Speaker 5: ball game.

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Speaker 2: Now he steps up.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be all right.

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Speaker 6: And Mendoza takes the stat wants to throw it, fires

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Speaker 6: it down the field.

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Speaker 2: It's free.

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Speaker 3: Elijah Soaradi makes the catch. Tot it's gonna be a

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Speaker 3: twenty eight yard field goal.

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Speaker 7: Here's the staff field and kicks the ball.

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Speaker 8: It is wide. It is wide wide to the left.

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Speaker 8: Hets thet Ndiana has big Neal hau steaks.

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Speaker 7: One team on to cut right.

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Speaker 8: Whoever the dudes would be here, But now the hooses,

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Speaker 8: we're flipping chams.

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Speaker 1: Let go.

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Speaker 9: Playoffs are just starting and now we're gonna get it

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Speaker 9: by and uh so you gotta.

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Speaker 2: Win three games. Bluff above we played.

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Speaker 10: Here's an RCO and it's an interception and it's picked

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Speaker 10: off by Devin Lloyd. Lloyd started right cutting too, has left.

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Speaker 10: He's gonna be chopped down another twenty one yard line

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Speaker 10: all between the hash marks for Daniel Jones loan back

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Speaker 10: of the backfield as Jonathan Taylor. Jones on a counter

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Speaker 10: gives off to Taylor knifing trying to fight.

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Speaker 2: His way into the end zone. He's in yes touchdown.

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Speaker 10: Game is tied at seventh. Lawrence goes out of the

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Speaker 10: gun ball the right hash back to pass he's looking

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Speaker 10: for to the right side and it's caught for a

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Speaker 10: touchdown at the end zones to Jacoby Myers a fourteen

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Speaker 10: yard pass. There's a flag on the play and Daniel

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Speaker 10: Jones is down. Daniel Jones can't even make it over

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Speaker 10: to the sideline.

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Speaker 11: If you looked at he is seated on the turf

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Speaker 11: and he just slams his helmet to the grass. He

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Speaker 11: is now limping over to the cold sidelin.

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Speaker 10: Florence side of the gun ball the right hash and

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Speaker 10: he's gonna give off the right.

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Speaker 12: Side to et In slashes inside that thirty.

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Speaker 2: He's got an avenue.

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Speaker 12: He's gonna go down the right.

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Speaker 10: Side, right in the intall for a touchdown untouched.

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Speaker 13: Daniel Jones has an a key lease.

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Speaker 2: It could be season ending. I don't have the full

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Speaker 2: details on it.

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Speaker 13: A lot of this stuff too. As you go through

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Speaker 13: a season, you're gonna have, you're gonna go through some

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Speaker 13: storms and some adversity, and you got to overcome those.

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Speaker 1: And so that's what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 13: We're gonna find like crazy him believe and we know

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Speaker 13: that we got a big one coming up on the road.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good morning.

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Speaker 2: It is cold outside, it is dark, and I'm not

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Speaker 2: even talking about the weather right now. I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: what it must be like over at West fifty sixth

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Speaker 2: after and unbelievably celebratory evening on Saturday where Indiana smacksdown

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Speaker 2: Ohio State and moves on to a bye in the

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Speaker 2: college football playoffs, and the playoffs are announced yesterday, and

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Speaker 2: we got all kinds of opinions and thoughts on that

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Speaker 2: as well. But man, where do we Good morning, Kevin Bona.

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Speaker 2: I hope you're doing okay today. I'm man, I'm impressed

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Speaker 2: showing up in just a T shirt today. It is

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Speaker 2: cold outside. Maybe I'm just getting old, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but I'm wearing layers upon late years over here. How

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Speaker 2: are you doing this morning? I know there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of mixed emotions going on through you right now? Do

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Speaker 2: you speak for everybody? How's how's your brain and your

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Speaker 7: You know, I said a Caleb, Caleb, thank you for

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Speaker 7: the opener here on this Monday morning, I said a Caleb.

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Speaker 7: When we got in studio, this show feels a it

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Speaker 7: feels a little odd to me in a way. You know,

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Speaker 7: I don't necessarily want to totally compare it to a

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Speaker 7: show a few months back, but I was thinking on

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Speaker 7: the commute in. You know, we did a show the

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Speaker 7: Monday morning after Tyre's Halliburton's game winner in Madison Square Garden.

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Speaker 7: That same night we had the passing of Jim Mersey,

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Speaker 7: and that same day previously you have to talk about

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Speaker 7: it on air, we had the Penske you know whatever

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Speaker 7: cheating scandal, if you want to call it that, over

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Speaker 7: at IMS, and it's like, oh my gosh, how do

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Speaker 7: we properly get to all of it? How do you

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Speaker 7: rank these in you know, major sort of seven oh

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Speaker 7: So you know, the more and more, obviously the commute

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Speaker 7: in the more I thought to what Caleb led off

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Speaker 7: with right there, and that is when that bracket popped

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Speaker 7: up yesterday and the number one team in the College

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Speaker 7: Football Playoff is the Indiana Hoosiers. It was yet another

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Speaker 7: moment of awe. And I don't know if you felt this, Jeff,

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Speaker 7: but like I married into a I would say, a

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Speaker 7: seem to some, and to watch their emotions play out

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Speaker 7: Saturday night, to watch like neighbors, friends, you know, people

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Speaker 7: I went to college with. It reminded me of Purdue

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Speaker 7: making the Final Four a few years ago. It reminded

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Speaker 7: me of the Pacers, you know, making it all the

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Speaker 7: way to Game seven. You've got to dialog it back

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Speaker 7: a little bit to find that for the Colts, but

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Speaker 7: it was that sort of moment that sports do offer.

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Speaker 7: As cruel as we saw it play out for some

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Speaker 7: fan bases yesterday, it also offers those magical moments. And

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Speaker 7: so that's probably what I wanted to lead off with

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Speaker 7: is just Indiana football. And I said it to you

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Speaker 7: after the Oregon game, Jeff, it's the greatest coaching job

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Speaker 7: in college or professional sports, bar not Ny. And I

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Speaker 7: don't think that's hyperbolic. You're in the market and that's

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Speaker 7: just why you're saying.

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Speaker 2: You even had Urban Meyer saying that on Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: the other night.

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Speaker 7: I think it is the greatest coaching job in college

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Speaker 7: or professional sports. And so just for the thirtieth time,

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Speaker 7: I feel like I've done that the last two years.

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Speaker 7: Just an unbelievable hat tip to Kurtzignetti in particular that

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Speaker 7: IU defense. Yeah, and with the defense is absolutely outstanding.

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Speaker 7: I get it for Nanda Mendoz is going to lift

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Speaker 7: up a trophy on Saturday night, and deservedly so. But

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Speaker 7: that defense, it's just there are a bunch of animals

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Speaker 2: To put it into perspective, and I know a lot

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Speaker 2: the stat was Kevin. Coming into that game, Ohio State

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Speaker 2: had allowed a total of six sacks to Big Ten

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Speaker 2: game and harassed Julian saying constantly and repeatedly, and they

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Speaker 2: let them get it going. And everybody will focus on

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Speaker 2: missed a mid range field goal in that one, but

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Speaker 2: their defense was terrific. But also you want to talk

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Speaker 2: about Cohones, Kevin Cojones. With the game on the line

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Speaker 2: in less than a minute to go, did Kurtzignetti play

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Speaker 2: wanted to put the game away? What did they do?

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Speaker 2: Let's go downfield for twenty five or thirty yards to

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Speaker 2: Becker and call it good on a beautiful throw and

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Speaker 2: catch Like that was like the exclamation on the entire night,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess I figured they would pass. I wasn't

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Speaker 2: Was not a safe pass.

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Speaker 7: Well, no, but you know again, you got to go

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Speaker 7: try and win it at that point, and you know,

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Speaker 7: I guess you could point to very different coaching philosophies

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Speaker 7: Gus Johnson uttered that phrase quite often. And the Becker story,

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Speaker 7: I mean, roommates with the Mendoza brothers. He's just been

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Speaker 7: absolutely incredible for them here over the final few weeks

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Speaker 7: of the season, with you know, you had the Elijah

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Speaker 7: in the game on Saturday Night. I think that's a

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Speaker 7: huge I thought it was a huge loss. It sounds

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Speaker 7: But I mean, what a throw and what a catch,

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Speaker 7: again it was just, you know, it feels like that

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Speaker 7: And again that was probably my grand takeaway from Saturday Night.

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Speaker 7: It's you know, over the last few weeks, few months,

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Speaker 7: And now they might have another one out there in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know there's some stuff about it in

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Speaker 2: just the injuries that they've had and just a devastating

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Speaker 2: for the Colts all year long, the injury bug has

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Speaker 2: just hit all of their best key players at one

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Speaker 2: four weeks, the crazy injury and not crazy, but the

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Speaker 2: injury did divorest Buckner, the injury to Sauce Gardner just

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Speaker 2: a game and a half after he gets here yesterday

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Speaker 2: with Daniel Jones. I mean, if you put a rank

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Speaker 2: three of the five have been hit hard, and you

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Speaker 2: been bit a little bit this year.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I said to James late last week

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Speaker 7: because he was certainly on this boat. I was like, man,

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Speaker 7: do you really believe in like Jacksonville being a curse?

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Speaker 7: And he was like, yes, one thousand percent. I was

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Speaker 7: like really, wow, I And you know, it's funny. We're

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Speaker 7: talking to some colts as the weekend played on, and

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Speaker 7: some very prominent colts, and they were like, I can't

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Speaker 7: believe people like keep on bringing up the Jacksonville thing,

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Speaker 7: like is that really a place where like things just

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Speaker 7: go to die? And it's it's a curse. It's a

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Speaker 7: new year, it's new, it's a new team every year.

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Speaker 7: I mean, this Jaguars coach, it's the first time head coach.

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Speaker 7: And now I'm watching that game unfold. And honestly, when

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Speaker 7: the game, I was like, oh my gosh, James Boyd

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Speaker 7: is right, and I'm so grateful he's not in studio

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Speaker 7: on Monday for him to you know, hear me say that.

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Speaker 7: But it feels that way, like I mean, from the

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Speaker 7: it feels like a Trevor Lawrence hasn't had a game

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Speaker 7: The Notre Dame basketball team. But great week last week.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll start with the most recent news the

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The one thing I would say about Riley Leonard

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And Houston Texans got to win over Kansas City

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Speaker 2: That's your NFL report right now. As far as college basketball, yesterday,

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Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to the college football playoff.

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Speaker 2: I alluded to this last weekend. We didn't really have

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Speaker 2: It doesn't work that way in football. It doesn't work

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Speaker 7: think it's more of a grape. I think you could

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Speaker 7: have a gripe with both Alabama and Miami. I have

438
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Speaker 7: more of a gripe with Alabama. I'll save it for

439
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Speaker 7: a bigger segment to rant and rave and have people

440
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Speaker 7: hate Notre Dame fans even more than they already do.

441
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Speaker 7: But yeah, I was when Duke one Saturday night. That's

442
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Speaker 7: when the pitt and the stomach really started to grow.

443
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Speaker 7: I thought there was no chance they'd leave the ACC

444
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Speaker 7: out empty handed, and sure enough they did.

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Speaker 2: Not now and we will talk about that lant because

446
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Speaker 2: I thought also the committee, the College Football Playoff Committee,

447
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Speaker 2: which is largely determined by guys from the SEC and

448
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,639
Speaker 2: the Big Ten, I get all that. I thought they

449
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Speaker 2: were sending Notre Dame a message too. Nuh see, you don't.

450
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Speaker 2: You're gonna go independent, go on your own.

451
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Speaker 7: Then you're gonna roll the dice the Indiana draw. They

452
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Speaker 7: will be out in the Rose Bowl and this will

453
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Speaker 7: be New Year's Day, a four o'clock kick on New

454
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Speaker 7: Year's Day, they will get the winner of Alabama and Oklahoma.

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Speaker 7: I think it's a very good drawl for Indiana. The

456
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Speaker 7: fact that you have Georgia, Ohio State, if you want

457
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Speaker 7: to slot A and M and as a team that

458
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Speaker 7: was ranked top five for so much the season, they're

459
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Speaker 7: all on the other side of the bracket. If the

460
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Speaker 7: seed's held, you would look at what Oklahoma, Texas Tech,

461
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Speaker 7: and I guess a rematch with Ohio State. If Indiana

462
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Speaker 7: wins that quarterfinal matchup in the Rose Bowl, they will

463
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Speaker 7: then play Friday, January ninth in the Peach Bowl. So

464
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Speaker 7: that's in the Falcon Stadium there in Atlanta. Goes without

465
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Speaker 7: saying how many alumni for Indiana or in that Atlanta

466
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Speaker 7: area there, and then the national championship game would be

467
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Speaker 7: in Miami.

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Speaker 2: Just to put a fine point out it. Right now,

469
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Speaker 2: Oregon is a twenty and a half point favorite over

470
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Speaker 2: James Madison. Right now, oh Miss, without a true head coach,

471
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Speaker 2: is a sixteen and a half point fair.

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Speaker 7: I'm totally good with one Cinderella, but to have one

473
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Speaker 7: sixth of your field be filled with that is wrong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. Also, NBA tonight the Pacers after it

475
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Speaker 2: went on Friday night in Chicago, will be home to

476
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Speaker 2: night to take on the Sacramento Kings. That one. We'll

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Speaker 2: start at seven o'clock airtime right here on ninety three

478
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Speaker 2: five and one of seven to five to the fan

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Speaker 2: beginning at six point thirty at this point in time,

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Speaker 2: anything else that you wanted to throw in and sprinkle

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Speaker 2: in before we move on here?

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Speaker 7: No, hey again, Pacers get that, got that first road

483
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Speaker 7: win of the season here, So yeah, Rick Carlisle should

484
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Speaker 7: join us coming up tomorrow. No Demontes Sabonis for the Kings.

485
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Speaker 2: Weon't get to see the former Pacer tonight. All right,

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Speaker 2: coming up in a moment, we'll start to get to

487
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Speaker 2: your feedback. Give us a call now two three, nine,

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Speaker 2: ten seventy. Caleb will happily answer that he's in from

489
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Speaker 2: Mark Dyke them this morning. And you can also hit

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Speaker 2: us up on the text line if you don't want

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Speaker 2: to stick around a wait on hold. We'll just get

492
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Speaker 2: your comments out there and we'll talk about some of that.

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Speaker 2: It is. We're navigating a lot of emotions right now,

494
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Speaker 2: very fired up and excited about Indiana, really bummed out

495
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Speaker 2: about what's going on with the Indianapolis Colts and confused

496
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Speaker 2: and once again about college football playoffs and the way

497
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Speaker 2: they've decided to mate out those berths. We'll do it

498
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Speaker 2: all next as we continue ninety three five and one

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Speaker 2: seven five boor inside of the gun Bowl.

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Speaker 1: The right has well, he's.

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Speaker 12: Going to give off right side to etn slashes inside

502
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Speaker 12: that thirty he's got an appau he's going to go

503
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Speaker 12: down the right sideline into the intel for a touchdown untouched.

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Speaker 2: So much going on for the Indianapolis Colts. They've now

505
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Speaker 2: lost what four of their last five after starting the

506
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Speaker 2: season seven and one. They were setting record well, they

507
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Speaker 2: were on pace to set a lot of offensive records.

508
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Speaker 2: They were just tearing things up. We knew that the

509
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Speaker 2: schedule wasn't the toughest, but still in the NFL, Kevin,

510
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Speaker 2: you start putting stats down. That's no joke right there.

511
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Speaker 2: So they go all in and they trade two first

512
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Speaker 2: round draft picks and a wide receiver to the Jets

513
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Speaker 2: for Sauce Gardner. He comes in within a game and

514
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Speaker 2: a half, he has an injury that's going to keep

515
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Speaker 2: him out for a while. And then, of course, yesterday

516
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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones goes down with what we fear and what

517
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Speaker 2: seems to be and will be confirmed later on today

518
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Speaker 2: probably as a torn achilles, which we know is minimum

519
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Speaker 2: a year before you get back. And where does this

520
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Speaker 2: leave the cults?

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Speaker 7: Now?

522
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Speaker 2: That's really what people are asking. It doesn't even feel

523
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Speaker 2: like a lot of Colts fans are worried about playoffs

524
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Speaker 2: this year right here right now. That is a concern,

525
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Speaker 2: to be sure, But people are like, okay, but what now,

526
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Speaker 2: Like what do the Colts do now?

527
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's easily the question that I've gotten the

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Speaker 7: most last twenty four hours of Okay, what are you

529
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Speaker 7: with Anthony Richardson? What do you do with Daniel Jones' contract?

530
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Speaker 7: What does this mean for the futures of Shane Steike

531
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Speaker 7: and Chris Ballard? All of it? I mean all of

532
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Speaker 7: those topics now, Jeff become front burner like no other.

533
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Speaker 7: You know, Richardson, you have a fifth year team option

534
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Speaker 7: that you have to make a decision on this all season.

535
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Speaker 7: By no means would his play or health indicate you

536
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Speaker 7: would ever pick pick that up all of a sudden

537
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Speaker 7: does it make you want to pick that up? I mean,

538
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Speaker 7: all of these questions now get asked. You know, as

539
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Speaker 7: far as the final four weeks are concerned. I have

540
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Speaker 7: not gotten the vibe that Anthony Richardson is close to

541
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Speaker 7: returning at all. That has just been my general vibe

542
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Speaker 7: throughout this I think I've shared that, I think James

543
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Speaker 7: has shared.

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Speaker 2: That that's a pretty serious injury on air.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, you're talking about a guy that I

546
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Speaker 7: think it's fair to say nearly lost his eye frankly,

547
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Speaker 7: and so you know, an orbital fracture, you know, is

548
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Speaker 7: what occurred in the locker room. We're going, We're now

549
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Speaker 7: going two months without him practicing. He is doing some

550
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Speaker 7: weight room work, but again I have not gotten the

551
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Speaker 7: vibe that he is going to be back anytime soon.

552
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Speaker 7: So I would assume for the final four weeks that

553
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Speaker 7: it is Riley Leonard and then Brett Rippen is on

554
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Speaker 7: the practice squad. He hasn't thrown a pass in an

555
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Speaker 7: NFL game since twenty twenty three. So that's your little

556
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Speaker 7: short term kind of reality, and that obviously doesn't get

557
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Speaker 7: into anything from a twenty twenty six quarterback point of view.

558
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Speaker 7: My very like early gut reaction to it all is, Okay,

559
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Speaker 7: does Anthony Richardson just become your quarterback for twenty twenty six.

560
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Speaker 7: You know, Daniel Jones is likely out with the twenty

561
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Speaker 7: Keelees for next season, so Richardson is under contract for

562
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Speaker 7: next year, the fifth year options for twenty seven, So

563
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Speaker 7: would you just roll with Richardson for twenty six? But

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Speaker 7: then again, once that question is asked, you very quickly

565
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Speaker 7: would say to the person asking that question, well, who's

566
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Speaker 7: calling those shots? Is it Chris bauerd is it Shane Staking?

567
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Speaker 7: And then you just throw up your hands and say,

568
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Speaker 7: hope that you're an AU football fan.

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Speaker 2: Real cook before we get to our first phone call,

570
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Speaker 2: don in a second. Here, it's night and day between

571
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Speaker 2: having middle of the season in in rhythm. Defenses have

572
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Speaker 2: an entire week or two to prepare for you as

573
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Speaker 2: a quarterback. Based on what you saw from from Riley

574
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Speaker 2: Leonard in that Cincinnati preseason game, what you saw a

575
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Speaker 2: little bit yesterday. Do you roll with him right now

576
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Speaker 2: and say, let's see what the kid can do. Roll

577
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Speaker 2: with Riley Leonard as opposed to just for the rest

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Speaker 2: of the year.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's probably. I don't think ripping

580
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Speaker 7: all of a sudden is going to, you know, be

581
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Speaker 7: vastly different than Leonard. I did think, and I want

582
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Speaker 7: to make sure we hit on this, because you know,

583
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Speaker 7: I thought there's a sequence there late in the first

584
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Speaker 7: half yesterday where I thought you were still in it.

585
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Speaker 7: You know, when you get into the rain game, weird

586
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Speaker 7: bleep can happen. I mean, you saw some ball security

587
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Speaker 7: issues on both teams, and so I thought there for

588
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Speaker 7: a second, I'm like, Okay, if you can get this

589
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Speaker 7: to one score half, you get the ball to start

590
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Speaker 7: the third. You know, just can you put any game

591
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Speaker 7: pressure and at the very least you make Trevor Lawrence

592
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Speaker 7: hand off the ball in a safe manner for the

593
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Speaker 7: final you know, a couple of quarters and after that

594
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Speaker 7: go over Stuart fumble when they had third and one

595
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Speaker 7: and fourth and one back it up and they did

596
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Speaker 7: not use Leonard's a his legs or just hand it

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Speaker 7: off both times. I that to me was just I

598
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Speaker 7: thought it was idiotic. You know, Riley Lennard is not

599
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 7: a pocket passer. That is not his game. His game

600
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 7: is if there is a strength to it, it is running.

601
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Speaker 7: And so I thought we would see and again, Shane's

602
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 7: got a plan for this. You have to have a

603
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Speaker 7: backup play. Okay, if all of a sudden my quarterback

604
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Speaker 7: gets hurt. Here are the whatever two dozen plays right,

605
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Speaker 7: and I would assume with Leonard a lot of it

606
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Speaker 7: should be leg based. I mean, look at his touchdown,

607
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 7: it's what it's him making a play with his legs.

608
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Speaker 7: Look at the first third down he converts to Alec Pierce.

609
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Speaker 7: It's him making a play with his legs. That is

610
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Speaker 7: his game. I mean, Notre Dame fans saw it all

611
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Speaker 7: last year. College football fan saw it in the run

612
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Speaker 7: of the national title game. So the fact that they

613
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Speaker 7: threw it on third and one I thought was greedy

614
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 7: as hell in the rain, and then fourth and one,

615
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Speaker 7: you're back in the shotgun and Taylor gets blown up,

616
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Speaker 7: and at that point Jacksonville knows full well if you

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Speaker 7: just threw it on third and one, you are definitely

618
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Speaker 7: gonna be running it here on fourth and one and

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Speaker 7: they sell out on Taylor and boom. You know, if

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Speaker 7: Leonard keeps it there, I think there's an opportunity for

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Speaker 7: him to pick it up. So I thought that sequence

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Speaker 7: Jacksonville then takes it down twenty eight ten, That to

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Speaker 7: me was just agree just from Shane, and I thought

624
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Speaker 7: your defense was awful yesterday. I mean, Jacksonville, I get

625
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Speaker 7: that there's no Buckner, there's no Gardener. Jacksonville's missing their

626
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Speaker 7: left tackle and their top pass catcher, and they, you know,

627
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 7: season high in points Trevor Lawrence doesn't look like that

628
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 7: all year long. Just awful. No sacks, no hits on Lawrence,

629
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Speaker 7: zero thirty one pass attempts, not a single hit. The

630
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 7: only time is Jersey got dirty was because the rain.

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Speaker 2: Does Quidy pay still play for the Colts?

632
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Speaker 7: Just awful?

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Speaker 2: There's a guy that lines up with his number, but

634
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Speaker 2: does he do anything awful? Honestly? And I will say

635
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Speaker 2: one thing before I move on to down too. You

636
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: go back to that fourth and one. There is very

637
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Speaker 2: little in all of the NFL that makes me cringe

638
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: and that I hate more than going for short yardage

639
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: out of the shotgun. It just drives me nuts. I

640
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 2: know these coaches well that if I put this guy

641
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Speaker 2: in motion, now we can move this guy around and

642
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: maybe we'll try to get some misdirection going on. You

643
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: know how, I feel like it's football. At some point

644
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: you just got to make a yard and your guys

645
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: can you do it or they can't. Sometimes it just

646
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Speaker 2: drives me nuts. All right, let's go to the phone lines.

647
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Speaker 2: Don joined US two three nine, ten seventy. Good morning,

648
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Speaker 2: don welcome into the Fan Morning Show.

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Speaker 16: Good morning.

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Speaker 17: First of all, congratulations Hoosiers's a long time waiting for

651
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Speaker 17: us for fans, which turned me into a Notre Dame fan,

652
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Speaker 17: which I don't care.

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Speaker 7: Why they snuffed.

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Speaker 17: Him over or Alabama over Notre Dame. They haven't did nothing.

655
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Speaker 17: Why are they kicking Alabama's a doubles when they haven't

656
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Speaker 17: done anything.

657
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Speaker 14: I get sick of that kind of stuff.

658
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Speaker 17: It's not right and it's wrong. And hopefully the Colts

659
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Speaker 17: will come out of there. I don't see Riley Leonard

660
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Speaker 17: being that bad of a quarterback. He's still a rookie.

661
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Speaker 17: I believe they can make a good quarterback out of him,

662
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Speaker 17: and we're gonna beat Jack and Bill. We're a better

663
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Speaker 17: team than them. Our next showing. We just got take

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Speaker 17: care of the other three games, and I believe we

665
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Speaker 17: still got hope. All right, guys, have good day.

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Speaker 2: Thanks very much. Like Riley Leonard, but I don't like

667
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Speaker 2: him as a starting quarterback in the NFL, certainly at

668
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Speaker 2: this point, Kevin.

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Speaker 7: What am I allowed to ran about Notre Dame. We'll

670
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Speaker 7: do it now. It's on the table, right the second, Well,

671
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Speaker 7: don't only have James Boyd coming up.

672
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Speaker 2: We got two minutes before we get to James.

673
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Speaker 7: Well, I'm gonna you a lot longer in two minutes, okay,

674
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Speaker 7: and we'll hold on to that. Your favorite moment from

675
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Speaker 7: Saturday night inside of Luca Soil.

676
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Speaker 2: Probably just watching the elation of everybody when that field

677
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: goal went left and it's obvious you are now going

678
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: to beat As crazy as it sounds, you knew they

679
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 2: were going to be one of the top two seeds

680
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: going into the playoffs. That wasn't in question. To be

681
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Speaker 2: able to finish off the conference schedule on top of

682
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Speaker 2: your regular season schedule though, and beat Ohio State. I

683
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Speaker 2: just I think the elation that I felt from people

684
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Speaker 2: in their living rooms when I saw when I was

685
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Speaker 2: out the next day, going over even to my ma. Look,

686
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Speaker 2: it was the talk of the town at the retirement home, Kevin.

687
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: It's all people wanted to talk about that moment. It's

688
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 2: almost hard to describe collectively what the Indiana fan base

689
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: felt in that moment where that realization is, oh, no,

690
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: not only are we undefeated, but we just beat Ohio State. Yeah,

691
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: we're going to the College football playoff and we're gonna

692
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Speaker 2: win the thing too, as opposed to man just happy

693
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Speaker 2: were got there? Can you believe we're in the college

694
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Speaker 2: football Playoff? It was we just beat Ohio State and

695
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: now we're gonna go win this thing too.

696
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was one of those nights where like, are

697
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Speaker 7: we lled to sleep inside of Lugosolo Stadium? I thought,

698
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Speaker 7: you know, there's so many cool scenes. I thought when

699
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Speaker 7: Aiden Fisher kind of took the mic there and led

700
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Speaker 7: the entire place in the IU fight song, you know,

701
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Speaker 7: like for IU fans. You know, again, in three weeks,

702
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 7: you might have a very similar scene in Pasadena, and

703
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Speaker 7: maybe after that it's Atlanta. Maybe after that it's in Miami.

704
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Speaker 7: But no matter what happens, even if they are to

705
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Speaker 7: lose in the quarterfinal round, like that postgame moment, obviously,

706
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Speaker 7: Banana Mendoza when he takes the mic, I feel like

707
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Speaker 7: he's half like one of those preacher guys on Sunday

708
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Speaker 7: that you see in the No, No, But but he's

709
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Speaker 7: meeting Mark Dighton's WWE personality.

710
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Speaker 2: But Barstool Sports actually tweeted out, did we just watch

711
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Speaker 2: a guy lose the Heisman Trophy in a post game? Yeah?

712
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 7: It's it's quite the scene anytime he's taking the mic

713
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 7: and I feel like he's you'll, speaking through my soul.

714
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Speaker 7: But when Ayden Fisher, you know, one of the JMU guys,

715
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Speaker 7: all of a sudden breaks out into that, you know,

716
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Speaker 7: it just kind of shows you a little bit more

717
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Speaker 7: of what Kurtzignetti has created here in two years. So yeah,

718
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Speaker 7: obviously the Mendoza de Becker throw and sure the missed kick,

719
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Speaker 7: and you know, I want to make sure every time

720
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Speaker 7: we talk about IU today we mentioned what Brian Haynes

721
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Speaker 7: has done with that. With that defense, I mean to

722
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Speaker 7: stifle Ohio State life sat and just whip them up

723
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Speaker 7: front timely plays when they needed to. In the secondary.

724
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Speaker 7: The Lewis Moore pick I thought was a huge tone

725
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Speaker 7: setter early in that game. I think about Ohio State's

726
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Speaker 7: only touchdown came off of the in reception off that

727
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Speaker 7: that little screen, So just incredible, incredible job from then

728
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Speaker 7: he had a defense. And I think if we've watched

729
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Speaker 7: you know, we have watched eye you all year long,

730
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Speaker 7: so I think we know it, but still for the

731
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Speaker 7: whole you know, maybe national scene to see their defense

732
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Speaker 7: play out, unbelievable effort.

733
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Speaker 2: All right, he is gone, but certainly not forgotten. Today,

734
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Speaker 2: the third member of our team here on the Fan

735
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Speaker 2: Morning Show. James Boyd, getting ready to travel back from Jacksonville,

736
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Speaker 2: where he was in attendance for that Colts game in

737
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Speaker 2: the rain yesterday, joins us now on the Payless Liquors Hotline.

738
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Speaker 2: Good morning, James. You know, we had talked about the

739
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Speaker 2: fact that you truly believed in a curse for the

740
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Speaker 2: Colts in Jacksonville, But I don't think you had that

741
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Speaker 2: much of a curse going on when you said that,

742
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Speaker 2: did you.

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Speaker 14: No, they're in trouble. There are season probably an end

744
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Speaker 14: of yesterday because of the Achilles d Daniel Jones. So

745
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Speaker 14: I know I'm here for all the jokes and dow

746
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Speaker 14: Wall County curves, but they might actually not made the

747
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Speaker 14: post season.

748
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Speaker 7: James, how would you describe the locker room scene yesterday?

749
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Speaker 14: Very dejected, Probably one of the more depressing locker room

750
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Speaker 14: I've been in in quite some time, and not saying

751
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 14: I've been around that long, but sit around for four

752
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Speaker 14: years now and it hasn't felt like that. I think

753
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 14: they all kind of knew. And the moment that Daniel

754
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 14: Jones went down, there goes our chance now they did say,

755
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Speaker 14: and credit johncon Taylor thought he gave the best quart

756
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 14: of locker room, Like, hey, you know, I asked him,

757
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Speaker 14: do you have to hold on to the rope and

758
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 14: need to not just hold on? We got a scratch

759
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 14: claw and yanked the rope back to make sure our

760
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 14: season can stay on the rails. But you're asking assist

761
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Speaker 14: round rookie to save your campaign, and I think that's

762
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Speaker 14: just too much to ask. Roddy Leonard. He played better

763
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Speaker 14: than I thought he would honestly yesterday, but better defenses

764
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Speaker 14: are coming and I feel like these last four games

765
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 14: there are no lightweights, no gimmes, and they're going to

766
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 14: be in serious troubles.

767
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Speaker 7: James, I gave some thoughts on Anthony Richardson in twenty

768
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Speaker 7: twenty five here a few minutes ago. What has been

769
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Speaker 7: your view was Richardson there yesterday? I don't think they

770
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Speaker 7: showed him on TV? Like, what's been your view of

771
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Speaker 7: Anthony Ridgerson possibly putting on a Colts uniform again this season?

772
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Speaker 14: I'm honestly not sure if he traveled yesterday. I did

773
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Speaker 14: look for him down there on the sideline with the grant,

774
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Speaker 14: and I was also looking a lot for Daniel Jones

775
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 14: through the vernocular fields going on with him, and as

776
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Speaker 14: I tweeted out, I believe last week and I we

777
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Speaker 14: talked about on the show previously, I've seen and the

778
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 14: Incison's face was in the last three weeks and I

779
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 14: was like a face they could play football anytime soon.

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Speaker 14: In my opinion, So those who keep intrustingly asking me

781
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 14: about him, I think it's just kind of naive to

782
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Speaker 14: kind of go down that route. And keep in mind,

783
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Speaker 14: usually even when you have guys to come off ir

784
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 14: they have a practice window, they have to open them

785
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 14: and even done that, let alone with cleared in the play.

786
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Speaker 14: So I think they're moving forward with the idea of

787
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Speaker 14: Roddy Leonard leading them down the last month of this season.

788
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Speaker 2: James Boy joining us on the Paylist Lickers hotline right

789
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 2: now from Jacksonville. We know what it was like around

790
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 2: here in Indianapolis yesterday. What was the locker room feel

791
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: like after the game last night?

792
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Speaker 17: Yes, Kevin just.

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Speaker 14: Asked me, it was definitely depressed, depressing, and I felt

794
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 14: like a lot of the guys were dejected in there,

795
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 14: but at the same time sending their condolences in a way.

796
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Speaker 14: I'm not asking like you know, Dale Jones is better

797
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Speaker 14: and you're saying but definitely sending their prayers and you know,

798
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Speaker 14: thoughts to a guy who has given everything to the team,

799
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Speaker 14: and you know, the guys already playing through a frash

800
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Speaker 14: of sibular probably would have played through another one on

801
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Speaker 14: the other leg had it been possible. Is just the

802
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 14: fact that at achilles injury is not going to obviously

803
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Speaker 14: help you in the immediate future. And now you have

804
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 14: questions about Damie Jones, Chris Ballard, Shange pikeen. It makes

805
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 14: the evaluation for Carlier say Gordon the coach, principal owner,

806
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 14: that much tougher because how do you evaluate the quarterback

807
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Speaker 14: positions if he's done miss the rest of this season

808
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 14: most likely and part of next season. How do you

809
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 14: evaluate Chris Ballard if he finally went all in unlike

810
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 14: in the year's past and in backfires and this magnitude,

811
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 14: how do you evaluate shange Piken who's going into year

812
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Speaker 14: three and might not make the playoffs. Most those who

813
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 14: don't make cluff the first two years don't keep their jobs.

814
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Speaker 14: So gad, that's take here.

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Speaker 7: James Boyd from the atletical course, so he is traveling

816
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Speaker 7: back to Indy. He'll be back in studio with us

817
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Speaker 7: coming up tomorrow from Afar James, what was viewing Saturday nights?

818
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Speaker 7: Indiana and Ohio State?

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Speaker 2: Like for you?

820
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Speaker 18: That was great?

821
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Speaker 14: Me and Nathan Brown actually saw to Nathan Brown and

822
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Speaker 14: Indie Starr who went out to watch that some bar

823
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Speaker 14: in Jacksonville and pickjaw guys. I found the coldest place

824
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Speaker 14: for Jacksville to Washington game. They had a bar inside

825
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Speaker 14: of an ice skating rink, which was so freaking weird,

826
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Speaker 14: but great set up, great screen. There were some Ohio

827
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Speaker 14: State fans next to us, and they were actually pretty

828
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 14: respectful and they had a lot of credits to Indiana

829
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Speaker 14: and it was quite a night and office Ohio State win.

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Speaker 14: But oh I just probably enough ything against are you again?

831
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Speaker 14: Trench is what surprised me. The mother would just turn around.

832
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Speaker 14: They do not get bullied anymore down low and they

833
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 14: have the big dudes to compete and you know, the

834
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Speaker 14: nity and gritty. So a great win. Great ports. Wasna

835
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Speaker 14: Mendoza and company so excited to see what jack for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly a crazy weekend of sports. I don't know

837
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Speaker 2: if you were traveling or had a chance to watch

838
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Speaker 2: any of the college basketball during the day, but that

839
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 2: Purdue game was quite the letdown at Mackie. And I

840
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: know you watch a lot of college basketball. Did you

841
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Speaker 2: see that coming at Mackie?

842
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Speaker 17: No, not at all.

843
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Speaker 14: One of the worst losses I would say probably ever

844
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Speaker 14: right for a number one team in the nation. And

845
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Speaker 14: so all have to think about, was I went to

846
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Speaker 14: a heel tyre Caliburton is and how much trash he

847
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 14: wants to talk to those fans because you know he

848
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 14: likes to rattle a few people and renowned and.

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Speaker 2: If you can, Thanks Seame. I always good to talk

850
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Speaker 2: to your travel safe buddy. We'll see you right here

851
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: in the studio tomorrow. Thanks James, Thanks very much. Interesting

852
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: because you know, we were both talking about after the game,

853
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Speaker 2: and I wanted to drill down on that because you

854
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Speaker 2: you know, you know, I have been in many many

855
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Speaker 2: post games. A lot of times it's what is not said,

856
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Speaker 2: and it's just the general body language and face of

857
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: guys at their locker where you really get a sense

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Speaker 2: of what's really going on.

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Speaker 7: Kevin Well and you know, obviously when Jones goes down,

860
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Speaker 7: I think the immediate comp for a lot of our

861
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Speaker 7: audience's Halliburton's injury in Game seven. It's similar in a way,

862
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 7: but not really like nothing was going to happen to

863
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Speaker 7: Rick Carlyle and Kevin Pritchard, of course, And sure it

864
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 7: sucks the life so much of the life out of

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Speaker 7: this pace for season as we've seen it play out.

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Speaker 7: First off, it's ludacris to compare Tyres Haliburn as a

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Speaker 7: player to Daniel Jones the player. I think you start there.

868
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 7: And also it would be ludicrous to compare the resumes

869
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 7: of Carlile and Pritchard to Ballard and Stichen, So I

870
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 7: would argue it almost adds more to it in what

871
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 7: probably James and those witness down there in Jacksonville. And yeah,

872
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 7: all those questions, I mean, James just alluded to it,

873
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 7: all of these questions, and I think they are difficult. Like,

874
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 7: you know, I didn't think Bowers should have been back

875
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 7: for a ninth year. But I also sit here and say,

876
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 7: is it the best thing in the world to go

877
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 7: out and get a new GM and say, hey, here

878
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 7: you go. Oh, by the way, you don't have your

879
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 7: two first round picks. Reach to the next two years.

880
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: That person's starting off way behind that that's quite the

881
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: way to start a rebuild. Yeah.

882
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 7: But then again Barnaby is like, wait, you're gonna run

883
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 7: this back and Boward's gonna get a tenth year, you know.

884
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 7: I mean it's just and all of the domino effects

885
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 7: off of it. So and you know, I know, Hindsight

886
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 7: could be super twenty twenty with the Sauce Gardener trade,

887
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 7: and I think it's unfair to all of a sudden

888
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 7: go back to that trade and be like that trade

889
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 7: should have never happened. I think the one element to

890
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 7: the trade where you could probably be a little bit

891
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 7: of like, man, there should have been more pause there.

892
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 7: And I get there are time constraints in the trade.

893
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 7: Literally there's a trade deadline. You had to execute it

894
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 7: buy whatever it was November fourth. But Daniel Jones has

895
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 7: never proven himself over a full NFL season to.

896
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 2: Be a franchise quarterback, right, you.

897
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 7: Know, there's either poor play or there's a lot I mean,

898
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 7: it's a long list of injuries now for Daniel Jones

899
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 7: in his career. So if you want to play the

900
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 7: Hindsight twenty twenty card, I think that's the one element

901
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 7: to Jones because by trading for Gardner, you are saying, unquestionably,

902
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 7: we have the franchise quarterback. He is not only a

903
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 7: great quarterback, but he is durable, and he has proven

904
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 7: himself and he is our guy. That's the one element

905
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 7: to looking back on that trade that you say, boy

906
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 7: Daniel Jones by Halloween deserve that. Yeah, I don't think

907
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 7: that adds up.

908
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then even the secondary that they do have

909
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: right now where you're talking about Mooney Ward and his

910
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: struggles right now. But I also thought it was interesting

911
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: there were a couple of plays, not all of them,

912
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 2: but there are a couple of plays where it looked

913
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 2: like Jacksonville was targeting kennymore the second yesterday too.

914
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought the defense was just awful. I mean,

915
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 7: zero sacks and zero quarterback hits on Trevor Lawrence and

916
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 7: they're down there starting left tackle. I mean J. J.

917
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 7: Watt talked about how many moving parts they've had on

918
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 7: their offensive line all year long. No, Parker Washington, that

919
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 7: was their leading pass catcher this season coming into the game.

920
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 7: I mean, Jacoby Myers has been there what three weeks

921
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 7: and looked like he was, you know, right on the

922
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 7: same page, no questions asked, So that defensive effort was

923
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 7: just because it was already trending in an ugly direct.

924
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 7: I mean, you give what twenty eight points in the

925
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 7: first half to Jacksonville. I mean even in Jacksonville starting

926
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 7: eight and four, they're not starting eight and four because

927
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 7: of this offense.

928
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 2: And that wasn't the Daniel Jones injury fault right out there.

929
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, obviously you had the early pick

930
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 7: that set up the first score. But so there's twenty

931
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 7: one other points in that opening in that opening half there,

932
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 7: they averaged like seven yards per play in the first half.

933
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 7: That is just an awful, awful number there. So again

934
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 7: helping Riley Leonard terrible from the Colts yesterday.

935
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: All right, coming up in a moment, we will take

936
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: more of your phone calls. We'll get to the text

937
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: line in depth for the first time today. Got a

938
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: lot to talk about. What do you do next? If

939
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: you're the Indianapolis Colts, where do you go? How do

940
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: you move on now? Without some five year plan in

941
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 2: the back of your mind, because there's a things have

942
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: changed a lot in the last seventy two hours, forty

943
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: eight hours. We'll do it next ninety three five and

944
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: one on seven five.

945
00:42:54,120 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: These see sed a fan morning show with the Shady

946
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 1: and Jeff.

947
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 2: Here's the staff.

948
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 3: Fernando throws it up field, catches made at the thirty

949
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 3: four yard line.

950
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: Great grabs.

951
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 4: Who's your don already Fernando Mendoza is on the ground.

952
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: I did not see it.

953
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 5: So Fernando gets decked on the first play of the

954
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 5: ball game.

955
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 2: Now he steps up. He's gonna be all right.

956
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 6: And Mendoza takes the stat wants to throw it, fires

957
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 6: a down the field.

958
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 2: It's free.

959
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 3: Elijah Soroadi makes the catch. It will be a twenty

960
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 3: eight yard field goal. Here's the stamp field and kicks

961
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 3: the ball.

962
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 7: It is wide.

963
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 8: It is wide Wood the lad he miss the Rendianda

964
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 8: has big deal House steaks. One team to cut right,

965
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 8: whoever the woes would be here, But now the hoo'ss

966
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 8: we're flipping chams.

967
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: Let's go.

968
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 9: Playoffs are just start and now we're gonna get it

969
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 9: by and uh so you gotta.

970
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: Win three games. Glass of ball to be played.

971
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 10: Here's an RCO and it's an interception and it's picked

972
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 10: off by Devin Lloyd. Lloyd started right cutting through, has left.

973
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 10: He's gonna be chopped down another twenty one yard line

974
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 10: all between the hash marks for Daniel Jones lowing back

975
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 10: of the backfield as Jonathan Taylor. Jones on a counter

976
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 10: gives off to Taylor knifing try to fight.

977
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 7: His way into the end zone.

978
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: He's in yes touchdown. Game is tied at seventh.

979
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 10: Lawrence goes out of the gun ball the right hash

980
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 10: back to pass he's looking for to the right side

981
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 10: and it's caught for a touchdown of the end zones

982
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 10: to Jacoby Myers a fourteen yard pass. There's a flag

983
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 10: on the play and Daniel Jones is down. Daniel Jones

984
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 10: can't even make it over to the sideline.

985
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: If you look at he is seated on.

986
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 11: The turf and he just slams his helmet to the grass.

987
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 11: He is now limping over to the cold sideline.

988
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 10: Flourens side of the gun ball the right hash and

989
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 10: he's gonna give off the right side to et In slashes.

990
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 12: Inside that thirty. He's got an avenue. He's gonna go down.

991
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 10: The right sideline into the infl for a touchdown untouched.

992
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones has an a key lease. It could be

993
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 2: season ending. I don't have the full details on it.

994
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 13: A lot of this stuff too. As you go through

995
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 13: a season, you're gonna have you're gonna go through some

996
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 13: storms and some diversity, and you've got to overcome those.

997
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: And so that's what we're gonna do.

998
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 13: We're gonna find like crazy him believe and we know

999
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 13: that we got a big one coming up on the road.

1000
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, the competitor in Shane Steichen feels that way. But man,

1001
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 2: you're starting to lose ammunition left and right, whether it's

1002
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 2: DeForrest Buckner, Sauce Gardner, now your quarterback, Daniel Jones. And look,

1003
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 2: you talked about it and wrote about it, Kevin. When

1004
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: it first happened, when the Colts three four weeks ago

1005
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 2: made the decision to give up two first round draft

1006
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 2: picks and Ady Mitchell to the New York Jets for

1007
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner, they were essentially saying, we're all in for

1008
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: the next several years. Here. We've got a quarterback, we've

1009
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: got a stud running back. We like our wide receiver corps.

1010
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 2: We know we need some help on the defensive line,

1011
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: but we are going to have just a kick ass

1012
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: secondary that's gonna help everything out on defense.

1013
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: We're all in.

1014
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 2: Man. Since then, Sauce Gardner out for an undetermined amount

1015
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 2: of time, and now Daniel Jones out for the rest

1016
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 2: of this season and probably most of next year, if

1017
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: not all up next year, and whether or not he's

1018
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 2: even the quarterback. Remember he's on a one year deal.

1019
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 2: There's a lot going on for the Indianapolis Colts all

1020
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 2: of a sudden that they didn't even have to think

1021
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:25,919
Speaker 2: about forty eight hours ago.

1022
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 7: That's certainly true. We did it in seven o'clock hour.

1023
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 7: I'll do it again here. I can't start with Colts though,

1024
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 7: I gotta go back to Saturday night in just that

1025
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 7: scene inside of Lucas so Oil Stadium, Caleb, thank you

1026
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 7: for that, rejoiner, And here Don Fisher's voice. Honestly, yeah,

1027
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 7: sex a little bit of fish on Saturday morning. He

1028
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 7: got a kick out of the comments on Friday when

1029
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 7: we said, you know, we should carry him by Pharaoh,

1030
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 7: you know, like like like a pharaoh from Gambridge Field

1031
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 7: House over to Lucas Soil Stadium. And now he's you know,

1032
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 7: calling Indiana back in the Rose Bowl, which is just

1033
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 7: absolutely and saying for the first time since what's sixty

1034
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 7: sixty eight, So you know, I think in this market

1035
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 7: as cruel as sports can be, and we've seen that. Certainly.

1036
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 7: You have had certain fan bases get moments that have

1037
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 7: led to tiers frankly positive seiers, happy tears over the

1038
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 7: last few years. Obviously, the Pacers I think created that

1039
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 7: this past you know, summer, this past spring with you know,

1040
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 7: really kind of a Hollywood run all the way until

1041
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,959
Speaker 7: Game seven, you know, a couple of years ago, when

1042
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 7: Purdue makes that Final four, and for fans that are

1043
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 7: at that game in Detroit, and you know, whether it

1044
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 7: is the Lance Shones three of the Zach e Edy block,

1045
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 7: and to get to a Final four for the first

1046
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 7: time in years for Indiana fans certainly haven't had in basketball.

1047
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 7: And it's their football program that offers that on Saturday night.

1048
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 7: And that's what I was struck by of just, you know,

1049
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 7: so much of the day, the anticipation for Saturday night,

1050
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 7: and obviously the basketball game doesn't go well at all,

1051
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 7: but to have that in your state capitol, to have

1052
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 7: it be Ohio State, to have all of a sudden,

1053
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 7: the bracket pop up yesterday and the first team that

1054
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 7: Rees Davis mentions is Indiana. It's just I have been

1055
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 7: at a loss so many Mondays in the Kurtz Signetti

1056
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 7: era of how to properly put it into context, and

1057
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 7: I once again and at a loss for it. And

1058
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 7: it's just beyond remarkable. It's the greatest coaching job in

1059
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 7: my opinion, college or pro sports. I'll repeat what I

1060
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 7: said in the seven o'clock hour. And I don't think

1061
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 7: that is some hyperbolic you you know, happen to just

1062
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 7: you know, be in market with that team. No, I

1063
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 7: think it's true. And again that defense, like Fernando Mendoza

1064
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,439
Speaker 7: will hoist the Heisman coming up Saturday night. And he

1065
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 7: made some big time throws and Charlie Becker made some

1066
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 7: big time catches. Elijah Sharrott made a huge play on

1067
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 7: third and eight there to I guess score the eventual

1068
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 7: game winning touchdown. But their defense is just that story

1069
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 7: is that might be the most amazing element because it's

1070
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 7: I mean, Mendoza had a lot of hype as a transfer.

1071
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 7: There was a lot of appeal to wanting for Nando Mendoza.

1072
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 7: That defense is not littered with those types of portal

1073
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 7: editions on it. There's some Jmu flavor to it. There's

1074
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 7: the five nine d Angelo ponds to it. You know

1075
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 7: there's a guy from Navy that that transferred, and yet

1076
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 7: they just dominated that game and really the only touchdown

1077
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 7: Ohio State score was because of that interception. So unbelievable

1078
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 7: job by Brian Haynes, Pat Koons, Hold, defensive staff, everybody.

1079
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so much fun to watch. And even yesterday

1080
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 2: out and about whether I was visiting my mom for

1081
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 2: most of the day or even later on when my

1082
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 2: boys and I went out, all people wanted to talk

1083
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,479
Speaker 2: about was Indiana. And to your point, I think people

1084
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 2: are still pinching themselves like they're used to Indiana basketball,

1085
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: even though it's been a long time, right, last time

1086
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: they went to Sweet sixteen was the Tom Creanier and

1087
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 2: before that, you know, you got to go back to

1088
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 2: the to the one Mike Day here. But nothing like

1089
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 2: this ever, Kevin, And I mean, you grew up in

1090
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 2: this state. You know what it's like. You know, Notre Dame.

1091
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 2: They're bummed they didn't get to go to the college

1092
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 2: football Playoff, Like it's almost a birthright expectation if you're

1093
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 2: playing well and have a good season, and I get that,

1094
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: but for Indiana to not just be in the college

1095
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: football Playoff, but to be the consensus number one team

1096
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 2: in the country and having knocked off the previous thought

1097
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 2: to be number one team in the country. I don't

1098
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 2: know that you'll even if they continue to do this,

1099
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 2: I don't think you'll ever be able to replicate what

1100
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 2: this feeling is like right now, can you?

1101
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 19: Well?

1102
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 7: I mean, who knows what conference championships are going to

1103
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 7: be moving forward. I guess let's just start there. So

1104
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 7: I mean to create that scene and to have that

1105
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 7: scene in your state capitol against that opponent, you know,

1106
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 7: of Ohio States beating you how many years in a row,

1107
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 7: and how the game played out. Frankly, I thought, what's

1108
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 7: his name, Ohio State kicker? I thought he almost missed

1109
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 7: the first kick. The first kick was a chip shot.

1110
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 7: I thought he almost that little curvy thing going to

1111
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 7: off the left up right, and sure enough the second one,

1112
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 7: and I just thought it was just some of the

1113
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 7: softest coaching from Ryan Day not to.

1114
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: Go to go for that.

1115
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: Not my favorite guy.

1116
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 7: But okay, I mean, what what like go for it?

1117
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 7: Like so you kick the field goal just to have

1118
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 7: to wait and get another score later in the game.

1119
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 7: No go, I mean you had really they had leaned

1120
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 7: on Indiana a little bit there in that second half,

1121
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 7: and it's like, Okay, how many body blows in the

1122
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 7: Indian Evans is hanging in there, hanging in there, hanging

1123
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 7: in there. But you are Ohio State and you don't

1124
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 7: go for fourth and you know, really inches. I mean

1125
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 7: they had two of those in the second half, third

1126
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 7: and ones inside the ten yard line and you walk

1127
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 7: away with zero points. And I thought it was I

1128
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 7: thought Ohio State deserved Mendoza to Becker to ice the game.

1129
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 7: Like by you being so cowardly and deciding to kick

1130
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 7: it there and miss it, you deserve the Heisman moment

1131
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 7: to occur. And again, Charlie b from Tennessee will be

1132
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 7: ringing in my ears for a long long time. You

1133
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 7: can think what you want about Gus Johnson, but I

1134
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 7: thought every time he said that about Charlie Becker, uh

1135
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 7: pretty pretty spot on there. What a uh well whatever

1136
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 7: from him here over the final month and a half

1137
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 7: of the season. You know, when injuries have occurred to

1138
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 7: Elijah surat Omar Cooper Junior leaves the game early on,

1139
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 7: doesn't sound like it's too severe on that front. But

1140
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 7: for Becker to continue to step up for this team,

1141
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 7: you know, that's part of building the college football program.

1142
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 7: You know, depth is key. Injuries happen, can you do it?

1143
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 7: And Indiana has withstood some of that and did it

1144
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 7: on a grand stage Saturday night.

1145
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 16: Kevin I was also going to say too about the defense.

1146
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 16: I know Jeremiah Smith had a lot of yards, but

1147
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 16: D'Angelo Pons like some of the red zone reps that

1148
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 16: he had on Jeremiah Smith where he is just that

1149
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 16: third and one, he was on an island sometimes and

1150
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 16: they I know they bracketed him a lot, but I

1151
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 16: thought D'Angelo pons like was the story too on that

1152
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 16: defensive side.

1153
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean he is another one and you know

1154
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 7: when you look at his resume of the five to

1155
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 7: nine frame and another guy that transferred up and you

1156
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 7: know he missed. I think it was the Iowa game

1157
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 7: earlier in the year. So that aspect, like what's the

1158
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 7: best aspect of the Indiana football team. It's their defense.

1159
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 7: I mean, I think more so than Fernanda Mendoza. As

1160
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 7: crazy as that sounds, I think it is their defense

1161
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 7: that is their true calling card. And I think they

1162
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 7: sent quite a message to anyone they'll face here in

1163
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 7: the quarterfinal round. Alabama Oklahoma or semi final round of

1164
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 7: Texas Tech or Oregon, whoever it's going to be of.

1165
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 7: You know, driving on us consistently is no easy task.

1166
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 7: I mean, look at Oregon. Oregon struggled to move it

1167
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 7: and they put up huge points all year long. And

1168
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 7: then obviously look at Ohio State on Saturday night with

1169
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 7: you Jeremiah Smith in there and Carneal Tate healthy and

1170
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 7: Bo Jackson had some decent runs. And yeah, that that

1171
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 7: defensive championship.

1172
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 2: One of the things I've said all along awe As

1173
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 2: this season is unfolded, and you know how it is, Kevin.

1174
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 2: Various radio stations or networks will call you every once

1175
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 2: in a while, Hey can you come on and talk

1176
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 2: for a few minutes about Indiana and what have you.

1177
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 2: And I keep telling people this is a different football team.

1178
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 2: You talk about that defense, Kevin, they are this team

1179
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 2: even offensively along that offensive line. This is a physical

1180
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 2: football team. Like they don't stand back from anybody. They

1181
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 2: will go head to head with you in the interior line. Offense,

1182
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 2: defense doesn't matter. You add to that the skill players

1183
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 2: like Sarat, like Cooper, and I think people are starting

1184
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: to figure out they got some pretty good running backs too.

1185
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 2: But then you throw in what you've been talking about,

1186
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: that defense, which is not only physical, but they can

1187
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: cover you, and you talk about what they were able

1188
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 2: to do in the secondary. They were talking about what

1189
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 2: they're able to do, you know, for the most part,

1190
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 2: just not letting Ohio State go on any big, big

1191
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,919
Speaker 2: runs at any point in the game. And I also

1192
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 2: go back to something I saw a great interview not

1193
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: too long ago. Kurtzik Nutty was on Dan Patrick and

1194
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 2: Dan Patrick was like, could you've ever seen this coming

1195
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 2: this path? And he goes, well, you know, this is

1196
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 2: kind of how I got here. And he talked about,

1197
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 2: you know, the lower divisions when he coached, and he

1198
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: did it there, and then he did it again, and

1199
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: then he did it at JMU, and when Indiana called,

1200
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 2: he thought to himself, all right, why can't we just

1201
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 2: do it there too? And that kind of goes back

1202
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: to when he was saying, google me I win. He goes,

1203
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 2: I didn't see why I wouldn't be able to build

1204
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 2: what we had built in previous stops, doing the same

1205
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 2: things that we did, finding the same kinds of players,

1206
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 2: And you know, we can all say it's yeah, it's

1207
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 2: a completely different level right now. But Kurt Signetty can

1208
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 2: just flat out coach. You could make the case Kevin

1209
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: that he's the best coach in college football when you

1210
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 2: take a look at where he's done it, how he's

1211
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 2: done it at every single level, at every stable single

1212
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 2: position you could find yourself in. He's just gotten it done.

1213
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 7: It goes back to conversation we've had before. He was

1214
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 7: the right type of coach at the right time. It

1215
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 7: wasn't just that he had a winning resume and they

1216
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 7: hired him. It was a he was a no nonsense

1217
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 7: I'm gonna look at people in this athletic department, in

1218
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 7: this fan base and tell you, no, that's the old way.

1219
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:03,240
Speaker 7: We're doing it my enough of thinking like loser old

1220
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 7: Indiana football. We're not doing that anymore. This is how

1221
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 7: it is going to be. I've told the story before

1222
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 7: when we had them on at Colt Strandy camp a

1223
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 7: few I guess it'd been just before his first year.

1224
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 7: I compared him to Will Smith and Hitch didn't really

1225
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 7: ring to Kurt Signetti necessarily, but like it takes a

1226
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 7: little bit of the we're gonna think my way, we're

1227
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 7: going to I don't care if that's how whatever Tom Allen,

1228
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 7: Kevin Wilson, etc. Etc. Did it, or how old Indiana

1229
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 7: football has done it, It's going to be this way.

1230
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 7: And I think that was key. It's not just that

1231
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 7: he won, it's that he's going to reshape how you think,

1232
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 7: and not only for the players, but I think also

1233
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 7: for the athletic department and the fan base as well.

1234
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 7: It was huge. And one just last thing about their defense.

1235
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 7: It really had think hit me during the Illinois game

1236
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 7: because you know, fans of Indiana's football program, they've had

1237
00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 7: a wide out on occasion, they've had a cornerback on

1238
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 7: occasion that's worthy of playing in the NFL. I mean,

1239
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 7: how Tracy Porter made one of the biggest plays and

1240
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 7: you know anti cold history. But they've never looked like

1241
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 7: this in the trenches. Never, And that's the difference for me.

1242
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 7: It's that, you know, skilled talent in Indiana. I mean

1243
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 7: they've they've put up points before. That's not like that

1244
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 7: outlandish of a thought. It's being a championship team up front,

1245
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 7: and they certainly are that.

1246
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question about that. Go to the text line

1247
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 2: at two through nine, ten seventy and Charles says, ooh,

1248
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 2: the possibility of an Indiana jmu semi final. Good luck,

1249
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 2: it'd be a great story. Good luck to jmu on

1250
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 2: that is what I would say. But he does make

1251
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 2: a good point. Could you imagine, Kevin.

1252
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 7: Jam you would have to win what two games?

1253
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1254
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 7: Is that what it is?

1255
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 2: They'd have to get any of us.

1256
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 7: Got Oklahoma Alabama winner again New Year's Day, four o'clock

1257
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 7: in the Rose Bowl for planning purposes for fans out there.

1258
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 7: If they win that, they'd go to Atlanta for the

1259
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 7: Peach Bowl. That's a Friday, January ninth.

1260
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 2: Jam, you would have to be Oregon An Texas Tech

1261
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 2: to make that happen. Suppose it could happen. I doubt it.

1262
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 2: A lot of people checking in on on just how

1263
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: much fun this weekend has been, and you felt that.

1264
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if you were out and about yesterday

1265
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 2: at all, but you could just you could feel it.

1266
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 2: There's Indiana garb everywhere, there's shirts, there's jackets, there's hats.

1267
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 2: But you could just see people talking about that everywhere

1268
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 2: you go.

1269
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's I mean, you know again, I've said it

1270
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 7: earlier in the show. It's how Purdue fans felt after

1271
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 7: the Elite eate win over Tennessee a few years back.

1272
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 7: It's how Pacers fans felt probably after what Game six

1273
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 7: of the next series is probably how it truly got there.

1274
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 7: You know, Miles turnerund the mike saying Indiana in gamebridge

1275
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 7: Field House. That to me was kind of like Aiden

1276
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 7: Fisher grabbing the mic Saturday night and saying, you know,

1277
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 7: let's queue up the fight song inside of Lucas Oil.

1278
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 7: So you know, it's a night where the security guards

1279
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 7: have to beg you to leave. You know, there are

1280
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 7: many times a sports fan where you probably want to leave.

1281
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 7: Saturday night wasn't one of those you wanted to sleep

1282
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 7: inside of, you know, get out some sleeping bags in

1283
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 7: the bud light zone because we're gonna We're gonna be

1284
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 7: here for a while.

1285
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 4: Man.

1286
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 16: I love that Kevin, like just camping up makes some

1287
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 16: make some sausage and eggs in the morning, you know.

1288
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 7: Kegs and eggs and started off morning.

1289
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 2: You knows, Kevin went right to Kegs toos Hell.

1290
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 7: Colts fan's gonna need to drown their sorrows.

1291
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 2: Uh. To that point, Darren writes in should be a

1292
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Speaker 2: Hoosier's day and week of enjoyment. I know, you guys

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00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,479
Speaker 2: have to say siate a lot of different sports fans.

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Speaker 2: I get it. The one thing I've been harping about

1295
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 2: on the Cults for over two years is that Shane

1296
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 2: needs to give up or have taken away his play calling.

1297
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 2: How is this not more major story focus on head coaching?

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00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 9: Uh?

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00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 2: A lot of people all over the place on the

1300
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 2: cults and what they should do and how they should

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00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 2: do it. But isn't part of the strength of Shane

1302
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 2: Stiking supposedly is play calling?

1303
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, honestly, right now the grape of Shane's sikeing. You're

1304
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 7: two and eighty aint Houston and Jacksonville. The last three

1305
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 7: years in the Change second era, you were two and

1306
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 7: eight against the Texans and the Jaguars, the two teams

1307
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 7: that matter the most on your schedule. And look at

1308
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 7: the Texans and the Jaguars over the last three years.

1309
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 7: Jacksonville's changed coaches. Trevor Lawrence seems to be the one

1310
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 7: that they can't wait to get rid of. Houston changed

1311
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 7: offensive coordinators. C. J. Stroud's been in and out of

1312
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 7: the lineup. And yet you're two and eight against those

1313
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 7: two teams. And it's not like you're this overwhelmingly touchdown

1314
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 7: ten point underdog every time you face them. And that's

1315
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 7: the reality of where you're at right now. You know,

1316
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 7: so much of this is go back to Chris bowart season,

1317
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 7: Nay press conference, we need more tough guys. We don't

1318
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 7: win the games in December and blah blah.

1319
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 7: Well, the two biggest games of the season, Houston and

1321
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 7: Jacksonville back to back weeks, so far lost loss.

1322
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 2: Chris says, who would have ever thought i U football

1323
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 2: would win the conference before basketball gets back to the

1324
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 2: final four in the Big Ten Basketball tournament. Incredible, You

1325
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 2: got Indiana football and the college football Playoff before Indiana's

1326
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 2: even been back in the conference tournament.

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Speaker 7: Shout out to Tom Crane in the one a few

1328
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 7: what was at twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a while there. By the way, a

1330
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 2: lot of Colts headlines coming in. We'll get to those

1331
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 2: a little bit later on. So I know Mark is

1332
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 2: not here today, if you want to send those on

1333
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 2: the text line two, three, nine, ten seventy. We'll get

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Speaker 2: to those a little bit later on today. In the meantime,

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01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 2: we got a lot to talk about. Caleb. Let's check

1336
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 2: this thing down.

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Speaker 15: Right the morning Checkdown on ninety sweet five and one

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Speaker 15: oh seven five the Fan.

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01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 2: As expected, the Indiana Hoosiers are the number one seed

1340
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty five college football Playoff after a

1341
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 2: thirteen to ten win in the Big Ten Conference championship

1342
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 2: game against Ohio State in downtown Indianapolis at Lucas Oil

1343
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 2: Stadium on Saturday night. I would imagine there are a

1344
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 2: lot of people couldn't even get to sleep till three

1345
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 2: or four o'clock in the morning. Kevin just so fired up.

1346
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was quite the same their post game, to

1347
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 7: say the least, there I think again, happening in your

1348
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 7: state capitol, happening inside of Lucashola State. I remember a

1349
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 7: few years back, Indiana played Louisville at Lucas Soil in

1350
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 7: a regular season game. I remember Mark and I chatting

1351
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 7: during the break being like, dude, I had no idea

1352
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 7: that football game was even going on. Like, here is

1353
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 7: IU football playing in the NFL stadium in the state capitol,

1354
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 7: and I didn't even know what was going on. And

1355
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 7: then you have a scene like Saturday Night of Taylor

1356
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 7: Swift like mania for tickets, and then it plays out

1357
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 7: in the manner that it.

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Speaker 2: Did man, so one big snub in the college football

1359
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 2: playoff selection Notre Dame on the outside looking in, and

1360
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 2: they'll talk about the head to head loss to Miami.

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01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 2: That's fine, but I think you and I are both

1362
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 2: more concerned about a couple of other things, chief among

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01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 2: them three loss Alabama, who hasn't looked good in five weeks,

1364
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 2: getting in no matter what after their loss in the

1365
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 2: SEC Championship game where they were just boat raced by

1366
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech or by Georgia not Georgia tat.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm gona give some thoughts on the other side

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Speaker 7: on it.

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Speaker 2: All right, We'll let you do that at that point

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01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 2: in time, and we'll break all of that bracket down.

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01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 2: I Meanwhile, in the NFL yesterday, we've also been talking

1372
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 2: about the fact that the Colts were thirty six nineteen

1373
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 2: losers in Jacksonville. They still haven't won there since twenty fourteen.

1374
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 2: But more than that, oh much more than that, Daniel

1375
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 2: Jones goes down with what looks like an achilles tear

1376
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 2: in his right leg. We'll get confirmation on that a

1377
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 2: little bit later on today. But where do they go? Now?

1378
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 2: What do the Colts do? Now?

1379
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 7: I know?

1380
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 2: For the immediate it's probably Riley Leonard, maybe Brett Rippon.

1381
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 2: But where does this team go? You can't really count

1382
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 2: on Daniel Jones A to be healthy next year. But

1383
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 2: what is Daniel Jones? We had all those questions before

1384
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 2: this happened. What do you do now if you're the

1385
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts. What's the future look like?

1386
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 7: Yeah? A million questions with answers that are difficult and

1387
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 7: not ideal at all. Yeah, it's just it's a really,

1388
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 7: really sour, sour time to be a Colts fan. I

1389
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 7: wish I could say it in a different light, but

1390
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 7: that's the reality of where you're at. If indeed this

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01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 7: season continues to go the way it is going, I

1392
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 7: guess for those holding to any hope because the thing

1393
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 7: about it, Jeff, it's not like you can tank. What

1394
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 7: are you thanking for? Like people want the Pacers to tank? Well,

1395
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 7: the Pacers have the top five pick potentially waiting for him.

1396
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 7: The Colts have the what forty fifth pick? I don't know.

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01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 7: I mean they are their first rounder, so wherever their

1398
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 7: second round pick is going to be. So yeah, it's

1399
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 7: just it's a kick in the kicking the you know

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01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 7: what region.

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01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 2: Also, the Houston Texans went again last night on Sunday

1402
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 2: Night Football to beat the Kansas City Chiefs by a

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01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 2: score of twenty to ten. Jacksonville, of course, with the

1404
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 2: head to head went over. The Colts remains in first

1405
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 2: place in the AFC South and with that, when the

1406
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:53,439
Speaker 2: Texans move into second place in the AFC South. And

1407
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 2: later on tonight Monday Night Football, Philadelphia Eagles take on

1408
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Chargers. All of a sudden, there's a

1409
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 2: rooting interest there, Colts fans.

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01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, So if you are holding out for that playoff, hope.

1411
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 7: I would say the Chargers have one of the most

1412
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 7: difficult schedules the rest of the way. They are currently

1413
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 7: eight and four, so a loss tonight, they're eight and five.

1414
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 7: If the Colts have the same record as the Chargers

1415
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 7: and it's just those two teams, the Colts would get

1416
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 7: in based off their head to head. But I mean,

1417
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 7: right now, are you betting on the Colts to win

1418
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 7: another game the rest of the season.

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01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough. You look at that schedule right

1420
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 2: now and it doesn't get any easier. We talked about it,

1421
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 2: but Jacksonville was you know you're gonna play them twice.

1422
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 2: You've already lost the first one. Now you play Seattle,

1423
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 2: so you play San Francisco Jacksonville again. In Houston's it is,

1424
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 2: We've always known this is gonna be a tough one.

1425
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 2: Now you're gonna be playing with one hand tye behind

1426
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:44,439
Speaker 2: your back.

1427
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 7: Well in Seahawks and forty nine Ers the next two weeks,

1428
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 7: they're still going for the one seed and trying to

1429
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 7: get a home game. I mean, the NFC West probably

1430
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 7: the best division of football this season. So yeah, just

1431
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 7: a brutal, brutal schedule.

1432
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 2: All right, NBA. Later on tonight, field House will be

1433
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 2: the scene of the Indiana Pacers taking on the Sacramental Kings.

1434
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 2: But no, no Devona Sabonis in the building, or at

1435
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 2: least not on the court tonight, Kevin.

1436
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, Kings have been pretty bad this season. Shout out

1437
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 7: to the Pacers got their first road win of the

1438
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 7: on Friday night. Pascal Siakam, Great Benedict Mather, how about

1439
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 7: the story of Ethan Thompson. Didn't we all go to

1440
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 7: school with a guy named Ethan Thompson.

1441
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 2: All I know is I look up and the guy's

1442
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 2: making shots all over the.

1443
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 7: Place, bacon shots, hoping Rick Carlisle share this story with us,

1444
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 7: But it sounded like all of a sudden they realized

1445
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 7: Ben Shepper was going to be out. Ethan Thompson just

1446
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 7: joined the team. He was playing with some of their

1447
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 7: developmental guys, and Carlisle called over to the United Center.

1448
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 7: This is like whatever. Friday afternoon, it was like, hey,

1449
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 7: get Ethan Thompson off the floor. We need him tonight

1450
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 7: to play for the Pacers. Not only did he play,

1451
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 7: he started the second half and played really well. I thought,

1452
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 7: uh so, just you know, the Pacers have had a

1453
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 7: couple of these stories this season, but first road win

1454
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 7: Kings and then they really have a lot of practice

1455
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 7: time awaiting the next two weeks. So if they're ever

1456
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 7: going to get those back on track, Aaron E. Smith's

1457
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 7: return potentially by the end of this month, and then

1458
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 7: you know, maybe it'll happen.

1459
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 2: All right. Also, college basketball, yesterday one game in the UNDA,

1460
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 2: State beat Southern Indiana seventy seven to fifty five, And

1461
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 2: of course it was a tough one on Saturday at

1462
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 2: mac Arena, a twenty three point loss for the Purdue

1463
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 2: boiler Makers at home against Iowa State. Iowa State, it's

1464
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 2: a good team I wouldn't have been shocked if they'd

1465
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 2: have won that game, but not the way that they

1466
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 2: did win it.

1467
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 7: Kevin Bone, Yeah, you don't see Perdue get absolutely run

1468
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 7: out of their own building in the manor that they

1469
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 7: did on Saturday. Trey coffmin Ran really struggled in the

1470
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 7: first half there. Yes, I do think Iowa State is legit,

1471
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 7: but still I was most disappointed in the start to

1472
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 7: the second half. You know, I thought the first half

1473
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 7: would be a wake up call for Matt Painter's bunch.

1474
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 7: But a first non conference home loss since twenty nineteen.

1475
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 2: Seasons over in Division three four DePaul they lose to

1476
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 2: Wheaton forty nine to twenty four. Anything else you want

1477
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 2: to throw in.

1478
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was a rough loss for Butler too at

1479
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 7: home on Saturday. Yeah, I mean you can't ignore all

1480
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 7: of it there. I mean Boise State, I you know,

1481
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 7: from a resume standpoint, that hurt what Butler is built

1482
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 7: up here. So they'll have a Northwestern upcome. They'll start

1483
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 7: the Big East play here. I want to say it's

1484
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 7: this week and then we'll get that Indie Classic a

1485
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 7: week from Saturday, so that'll be preduing Auburn. Butler and

1486
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 7: Northwestern there at shout out to the Notre Dame basketball team.

1487
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 7: Jalen Harrelson, the five star looking every bit like it.

1488
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 7: Marcus Burton leaves early at TCU Friday night. I said

1489
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 7: it to you guys on Friday, I would take a

1490
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 7: Notre Dame out of the playoffs for the basketball team

1491
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 7: to win at TCU, and the sports gods literally said,

1492
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 7: are you sure about that?

1493
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 2: There may be some revision? Is his watch going on there?

1494
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,600
Speaker 16: What's the percentage of Notre Dame basketball football fans that

1495
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 16: are like you? Because I don't think there's many that

1496
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 16: would say that. Respect to you, Kevin.

1497
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 7: I think Ryan Bowen's the only other one I've ever

1498
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 7: met in my life. What a great win at TCU,

1499
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 7: A great week for Notre Dame basketball last week. Jalen

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01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 7: Harrelson outstanding. It's a shot to send it an overtime

1501
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 7: cole Certa hitting the ree small over the state of Texas.

1502
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 2: Let's go, man, let's go.

1503
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 7: It's basketball season in South Bend.

1504
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 2: Baby, there will be a basketball game tomorrow Night's Big

1505
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 2: Ten Indiana hoasting Penn State at eight thirty tomorrow night.

1506
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 2: There you go, Kevin, what's going on? Let him rest

1507
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 2: on that one. He said what he had to say.

1508
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 2: He's taking a drink of water.

1509
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 16: He's got to get ready to give his thoughts on

1510
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 16: the Notre Dame football team.

1511
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 2: I do so we be for an hour. I'm gonna

1512
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 2: let you go. You might want to take another sip

1513
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 2: of that water, because I've seen you worked up out

1514
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 2: in the coffee hall too. We'll do it all next

1515
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 2: ninety three five, one oh seven five the fans.

1516
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 6: And Mendoza takes the staff wants to throw it, fires

1517
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 6: a Dawla field, It's free.

1518
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 3: Elijah Sorotti makes the touch.

1519
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 1: Tech down.

1520
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 8: Here like like the seret seventeen yard pick for today,

1521
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:56,759
Speaker 8: and Indiana's.

1522
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: Back on top.

1523
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 2: Indiana would stay on top after a late missed field

1524
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 2: goal by Ohio State and just unbelievable defensive play throughout

1525
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 2: the game. Indiana goes on to win the Big Ten

1526
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 2: Championship thirteen to ten. They are the number one seed.

1527
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 2: Let's say that again, Kevin Bowen. They are the number

1528
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 2: one seed in the college football playoff in twenty twenty five.

1529
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 16: Waffle House, right, yeah, open, twenty four to Seve.

1530
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 7: Right waffle House what they call Elijah sarat fifty to

1531
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 7: fifty is eighty twenty when you throw it to hand.

1532
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 7: That play looks so much like the Oregon play from

1533
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 7: earlier this season. Third and eight, so on the Ohio

1534
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 7: State corners shift onto Sarat right before the start of

1535
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 7: that play, did not matter, back shoulder Sarat and making

1536
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 7: that play looking back like his healthy self there all right.

1537
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 2: So they are the number one seed in the college

1538
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 2: football playoffs, which were announced yesterday just after noon. The

1539
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 2: top four seeds. It'll get a buy Indiana, Ohio State

1540
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 2: is number two, Georgia three, Texas Tech four. I keep

1541
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 2: looking up and down even this morning, knowing what I know,

1542
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 2: and I see jmu in, I see Tulane in and

1543
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 2: I get how they got in. I don't like the setup,

1544
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 2: but that's how it works whatever. But then I see

1545
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 2: three loss Alabama in who's lost two of their last

1546
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 2: four games, lost by three touchdowns to Georgia in the

1547
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 2: conference championship. And if you want to go all the

1548
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:19,680
Speaker 2: way back to the beginning of the year, which the

1549
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 2: committee didn't have a problem going back and look at

1550
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 2: the Miami Notre Dame game to see what they saw.

1551
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 2: In the first game of the season, Florida State was

1552
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 2: a two touchdown winner over Alabama. Other than name recognition

1553
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,919
Speaker 2: in the fact that there's a heavy, heavy SEC bias

1554
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 2: on these things, How the heck is Alabama in over

1555
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 2: Notre Dame at this point in time?

1556
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 7: Jeff, what is the committee's job.

1557
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 2: To get the twelve best teams into this football playoff

1558
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 2: under the criteria they set, which includes JMU and Tulane

1559
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 2: and their paths to get in. Fine, whatever, I don't

1560
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 2: agree with it, But outside of that, it's to find

1561
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 2: the best football teams and ran them in order. You

1562
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 2: cannot tell me that Notre Dame, who by the way,

1563
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 2: went from number nine in their own rankings to all

1564
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 2: of a sudden, they went one spot behind Alabama before

1565
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,719
Speaker 2: the conference championship games, didn't play a conference championship game

1566
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 2: while Alabama got beat by three touchdowns and then goes

1567
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 2: from being number nine in their rankings to out all together.

1568
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, I knew Notre Dame was screwed a few weeks

1569
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 7: back when the committee chair on live television did the

1570
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 7: six to seventh thing.

1571
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 2: That's that's his legacy.

1572
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 7: By the way, as soon as I saw him, I said,

1573
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 7: are literally bleeped. There is no chance in hell this

1574
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 7: thing is going to run smoothly here over the next

1575
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 7: few weeks. In the history of the college football playoff,

1576
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 7: which again expands back over a decade, we've obviously had

1577
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 7: the four team playoff before that. Alabama is the only

1578
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 7: team to lose on Conference championship week and not move back.

1579
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 7: Notre Dame the only team in that top twenty five

1580
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 7: poll yesterday to have not played this weekend and move

1581
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 7: back Alabama to me is the bigger gripe. Two weeks ago,

1582
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 7: you had Notre Dame ranked higher than Alabama. What's happened

1583
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 7: since then? Okay, Notre Dame went on the road won

1584
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 7: by thirty over an ACC team in Stanford, Alabama. Over

1585
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 7: the last two weeks. You just brought up what they

1586
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,799
Speaker 7: did in the SEC championship game. They had negative rushing yards,

1587
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 7: by the way, in the SEC Championship game, negative rushing.

1588
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 2: Yards, and their quarterback was off. Win in the game.

1589
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 7: The week before that, they beat Auburn who had one

1590
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 7: SEC win. That one SEC win was over an Arkansas

1591
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 7: team who happened to be the Committee Chairs team. Well,

1592
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 7: the committee chair the ad for Arkansas had to all

1593
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 7: of a sudden fire his head coach this season, which

1594
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 7: game was that after when Notre Dame went to Arkansas

1595
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 7: and won by forty earlier this season. So Alabama in

1596
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 7: two weeks they beat one SEC win Auburn and if

1597
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 7: anybody watched that game, they watched Auburn have eight drops

1598
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 7: in that game. Then they go the SEC championship game,

1599
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 7: they get absolutely dog walked out of the Georgia Dome,

1600
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 7: just get rolled and again negative rushing yards for the game.

1601
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 7: And yet in the first time in eleven years, we

1602
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 7: have a team lose on championship weekend and not drop

1603
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 7: in the rankings at all. That makes absolutely zero sense

1604
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 7: to me. We had the committee chair last night again, Hunter,

1605
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 7: you're a check. I believe his name is Arkansas d

1606
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 7: He is bringing up some of Alabama's wins from earlier

1607
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 7: this season with teams that were previously ranked in the

1608
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 7: top twenty five since win is that part of the

1609
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:44,759
Speaker 7: criteria because Notre Dame has several wins this season where

1610
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 7: those teams were ranked at the time, and then they

1611
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 7: fell out of the rankings largely due to Notre Dame

1612
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 7: and those teams beating them. So that made zero sense

1613
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 7: for me, and I still have the Miami gripe. When

1614
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 7: the polls were debuted, whatever it was a month ago,

1615
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 7: Notre Dame was eight spots ahead of Miami eight eight spots.

1616
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 7: In that time Notre Dame did this, They won by

1617
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 7: thirty nine over a nine win team. The next week

1618
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 7: they go on the road to play an eight win

1619
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:18,759
Speaker 7: ACC team, they win by twenty two. The next week

1620
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 7: they play another ACC team, they win by sixty three points,

1621
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 7: and then that last game of the season, like I

1622
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 7: just mentioned, they win by thirty over another ACC team

1623
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 7: on the road. So in four weeks Notre Dame eight

1624
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 7: spot lead on Miami. They win by thirty nine over

1625
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 7: a nine win team, twenty two on the road over

1626
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 7: an eight win team, sixty three over another ACC team,

1627
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 7: and then thirty over another ACC team on the road.

1628
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 7: Four wins, two over former top twenty five teams by

1629
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,679
Speaker 7: thirty eight points per game, and that eight spot lead

1630
01:15:56,439 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 7: turns into a loss. It becomes a nine spot difference

1631
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 7: with Miami jumping them in the final poll. It make

1632
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:09,839
Speaker 7: no sense to me whatsoever on how Alabama or Miami,

1633
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,680
Speaker 7: based off the rankings that we have seen with the

1634
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 7: committee over the last month, how it plays out in

1635
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 7: that manner. When Duke won Saturday, night, I thought Notre

1636
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 7: Dame was out because I thought to myself, there's no

1637
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 7: way they're going to leave the ACC fully out. And

1638
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 7: for those that weren't totally following Duke at whatever, they

1639
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 7: were seven and five were not going to be ranked

1640
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 7: higher than James Madison. So James Madison was going to

1641
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 7: get the last automatic berth, which meant that because the

1642
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 7: ACC is too dumb to have Miami in their conference

1643
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 7: championship game, which they should have had in the first.

1644
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 2: Place, terrible tiye breaking.

1645
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 7: If the ACC puts Miami in their conference title game

1646
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 7: based off the tie breaking rules, which should be on

1647
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 7: the selection committee's rankings, then Miami theoretically wins Saturday night,

1648
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 7: they get the automatic berth, and now we have Alabama, Miami,

1649
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 7: and Notre Dame all in the playoff, which should be they.

1650
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 2: Screwed the whole thing up. But I also think there's

1651
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 2: an element of we know that this committee is largely

1652
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 2: influenced by the SEC and certainly to an extent, by

1653
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 2: the Big Ten. There's no question about that. And I

1654
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 2: know for a fact that behind the scenes, because I've

1655
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 2: talked to some of these peoples over the years, these

1656
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 2: conferences do not like the fact that Notre Dame has

1657
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:18,719
Speaker 2: been independent. They have their own network deal. They don't

1658
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:23,600
Speaker 2: have to share any of their their their basketball tournament revenues,

1659
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 2: any of their their TV revenues with any of the

1660
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 2: other teams. It's long been a source of consternation from

1661
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:36,679
Speaker 2: from conferences like the SEC. They couldn't wait behind those

1662
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 2: closed doors to have an excuse to say, oh, sorry,

1663
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 2: you're not going to take any of our money, You're

1664
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 2: not going to share in any of our stuff. You

1665
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 2: don't want to be a part of a conference and

1666
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 2: share your stuff, Well, this is going to be part

1667
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 2: of that consequence. I don't care what anybody says. I'm

1668
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 2: not the biggest conspiracy theory guy in the world. There

1669
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 2: is no way that didn't play a large part in

1670
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 2: why Notre Dame. To your point, Kevin, there is no

1671
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:03,839
Speaker 2: logical way for them to have dropped in the rankings

1672
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 2: the way they did, just based on what you outlined

1673
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 2: right there, other than the fact that we don't have

1674
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 2: to share with you, and this is how we're going

1675
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,640
Speaker 2: to justify it. And if you want to be a

1676
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 2: part of what we're doing in the future, why don't

1677
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 2: you hurry up and go ahead and try to join

1678
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 2: a conference where we're tired of sharing our money with you,

1679
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 2: mister independent.

1680
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 7: Now again, I firmly believe Notre Dame should have been

1681
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 7: in I've got grape, like I just laid out over

1682
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 7: both Bama and Miami. But I will repeat what I

1683
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 7: said late last week. When you are ten and two,

1684
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 7: you're not bulletproof. And Notre Dame lost to Miami in

1685
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 7: text A and M and part of Notre Dame not

1686
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 7: being in a conference, I don't necessarily think this means

1687
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 7: they should join a conference. Let me be clear, but

1688
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 7: part of not being in a conference means the start

1689
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 7: of your season will be front loaded. You'll have Miami

1690
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 7: in Texas A and m out of the gate. So

1691
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 7: when you do and you're starting a freshman quarterback and

1692
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 7: you're bringing in a new defensive coordinator, be wary because

1693
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 7: if those games don't go your way as you're easing

1694
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 7: into the season, it might come back to bite you.

1695
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 7: And that is the reality of where they're at from

1696
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 7: the schedule they obviously want at Texas A and m

1697
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 7: A couple of years ago to start the season. That

1698
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 7: I do think is a very real factor that Notre

1699
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 7: Dame has got to live with and that more of

1700
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 7: these teams are not gonna want to play you in

1701
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 7: October and November and interrupt their conference schedule, so that

1702
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 7: means August and September is going to matter more for you.

1703
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 7: And if you watch a Miami text A and m game,

1704
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:30,639
Speaker 7: Notre Dame had growing things. They didn't trust j Carr.

1705
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 7: In the Miami game, their defense looked awful against sex

1706
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 7: A and m Now they lost by four points total.

1707
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 7: They easily could have won both of those games. But

1708
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 7: that is the reality of where Notre Dame is that

1709
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 7: right now. Having said that, I thought that committee chair

1710
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,919
Speaker 7: is an absolute jackass moron.

1711
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 16: He's kind of just a meat shield for the whole process.

1712
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 16: I mean, he is the face of it all, and

1713
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 16: he doesn't help himself by the comments he says. But

1714
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 16: I think the larger problem, Kevin is the other people

1715
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 16: in that room too. Everybody's abiding this process that is

1716
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 16: obviously flawed, and that's just the one guy that gets

1717
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 16: to go on ESPN and answer good questions from Rhys

1718
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,679
Speaker 16: Davis and good pointed questions and he and he looks

1719
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:12,759
Speaker 16: terrible when he answers those questions.

1720
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 7: Again, the goal is to get the best let's call

1721
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 7: it whatever, ten teams if you want to, you know,

1722
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 7: group of five, put them to their I'm fine with

1723
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 7: having one Cinderella in the in the in the twelve

1724
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:26,679
Speaker 7: team field. By computer tests, by eye test, Notre Dame

1725
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 7: is easily one of the ten bests Jeff on Sunday morning.

1726
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 7: If you looked at the National Championship odds, Notre Dame

1727
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,640
Speaker 7: was fourth on that list. You ask any of these

1728
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:38,720
Speaker 7: teams that made the field, they don't want to see

1729
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 7: Notre Dame get you leave them out?

1730
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 2: Are you not getting an argument for me? I'm gonna

1731
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 2: let it sit right there.

1732
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 16: Are you okay with them leaving or withdrawing from the

1733
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 16: bowl game.

1734
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not ready for that one yet. Maybe maybe

1735
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 7: sometime in the nine o'clock hour we can.

1736
01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 2: That really goes back to what I was talking about

1737
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 2: that telling the folks at ESPN who were in bed

1738
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 2: with the guys from the SEC and everybody else for

1739
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 2: bowl games, Well, you're not going to get us to

1740
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 2: profit off it. Here's the other thing about bowl games.

1741
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 2: Schools don't make money from most bowl games.

1742
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:17,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, Caleb, I don't love love it, but I also

1743
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 7: think it's getting a tad overblown in this twenty twenty

1744
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:22,600
Speaker 7: five era of jewels. I mean Notre Dames played in

1745
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,759
Speaker 7: two balls under Marcus Freeman when they didn't make the playoffs.

1746
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 7: It's not like Notre Dame annually. Besides, hey, we're not

1747
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 7: going to play in the bowl game because to sum

1748
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 7: up what Notre Dame football has had to deal with

1749
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 7: in a bowl game recently, Sam Hartman decided to opt

1750
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 7: out of a bowl game. Sam hart When Sam Hartman,

1751
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 7: future seventh round NFL draft pick, is opting out of

1752
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 7: a bowl game, we have issues with bulls. In the

1753
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:46,719
Speaker 7: year of twenty.

1754
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 2: Three twelve, just had to find Iowa State in Kansas

1755
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 2: State because they decided to not take invitations to bowl games.

1756
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 2: Iowa State saying, not only do we have a bunch

1757
01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 2: of players hurt, but we don't have a head coach. Right, Yeah,

1758
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 2: bowl games aren't what they used to be. Coming up

1759
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 2: at a moment, we'll take some of your feedback again

1760
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 2: on the text line and the fan call in line

1761
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 2: two nine ten seventy is the number. Will do it.

1762
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 2: As we continue on a Monday morning.

1763
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 10: All between the hash marks for Daniel Jones, going back

1764
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 10: to the backfield is Jonathan Taylor. Jones on a counter

1765
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 10: gives off to Taylor knifing trying to find his.

1766
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:26,560
Speaker 2: Way into the end zone.

1767
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 1: He saying yes, touchdown.

1768
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome into the fan morning show. Lots

1769
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 2: of celebration for IU, lots of heartbreak for Matt Taylor

1770
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 2: in the Indianapolis Colts right now along with Kevin and

1771
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 2: I'm Jeff Rickard James Boyd traveling back from Jacksonville. Right now,

1772
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 2: Let's go to the phone lines at two nine ten

1773
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 2: seventy and let people have some thoughts in saying of

1774
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 2: their own, as we've been talking about this stuff all

1775
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 2: morning long. We'll start with Jeff at two three nine

1776
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 2: ten seventy. Good morning, Jeff, hope you're having a great Monday.

1777
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 2: What is on your mind?

1778
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 19: Sir?

1779
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,640
Speaker 18: It is a great Monday. Just a few points on

1780
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 18: the IU game Saturday night, Saturday night, and my voice

1781
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 18: is still a little rafty. Sorry about that. Well earned,

1782
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 18: well erned to see that place. I think eighty percent

1783
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 18: IU fans against Ohio State was incredible. Been there several

1784
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 18: times and it's usually a very pro OSU crowd, so

1785
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 18: that was fantastic. Shout out to the coaching staff and

1786
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 18: the continuity of that coaching staff, because I think people

1787
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 18: are asking, how is this possible that Signette has done

1788
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:29,959
Speaker 18: this in two years, and really I think it's a

1789
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 18: ten year build. And shout out to him for understanding

1790
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 18: that continuity and that coaching staff is critical.

1791
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 1: Compare that to what happened with Tom Allen.

1792
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 18: When he lost a couple of good coordinators. And thirdly,

1793
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 18: I was confident in this team in August, put a

1794
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 18: little bet down for IU thirty five bucks to win

1795
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:50,640
Speaker 18: the Big Ten championship game. And I'm going to use

1796
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 18: that twelve hundred dollars payout to go to Pasadena.

1797
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 2: So all right, pretty damn good weekend. That's a good dal.

1798
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 2: Get on on the Hoosiers earlier getting it back. Now,

1799
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 2: your dad did some similar with the Cults, right, Caleb.

1800
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 7: Thank you Jeff for the call.

1801
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 16: Yeah, that that's correct. He just sold the forty nine

1802
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,680
Speaker 16: or Monday night tickets for the Colts.

1803
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 2: And now that's still the game before the game.

1804
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:16,600
Speaker 16: And and now those ticket prices will probably drop in

1805
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:17,759
Speaker 16: the next couple of weeks.

1806
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 2: So he thought was he was going to put that

1807
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 2: money into playoff right.

1808
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 16: Right, And and now I guess he just has a

1809
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:26,560
Speaker 16: couple extra dollar bills for the pocket.

1810
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 7: So and again for I fans and Jeff, thank you.

1811
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 7: You know that sort of sentiment from Saturday Night. You

1812
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 7: know I shared with you at the start of the show.

1813
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 7: I you know, married into a i'd say a pretty

1814
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 7: big EU football family. And you know, my sister in

1815
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 7: law was at the game, my brother in law was

1816
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 7: at the game, my father in law was at the game.

1817
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 7: And just to hear them, you know, share those memories,

1818
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 7: it was. It was just a reminder of as cruel

1819
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 7: as yesterday was for a cult fan or a Notre

1820
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 7: Dame fan, or for Saturday for a pur new fan.

1821
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 7: There there are those moments and sometimes you feel like

1822
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 7: they're never going to occur, but what a scene. And then,

1823
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 7: as you said, Pasadena, January first, four o'clock, I you

1824
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 7: will play Oklahoma or Alabama. We know that. And then

1825
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 7: if they move on, it would be Atlanta for the

1826
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 7: Peach Bowl that next Friday. I want to say it's

1827
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 7: January ninth. If seeds hold, you would face Texas Tech

1828
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 7: potentially a rematch with the Oregon Oregon's the five there

1829
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:23,759
Speaker 7: and then the National Championship Game is Monday, January twentieth

1830
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 7: that is in Miami, so honestly, it's a long flight

1831
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 7: out there to California. But after that Atlanta, Miami, we

1832
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 7: got a lot of directs to those various airports.

1833
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:37,719
Speaker 2: Just get all your money for Christmas. Just go go,

1834
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 2: go see all of them.

1835
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 7: Well, easier said than done, but yes, no, it's much.

1836
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 2: Easier said done. But we see people do crazier things.

1837
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 2: Men mortgage the house. Don't do that. Don't mortgage your

1838
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 2: house for this stuff. Let's go one more quick phone

1839
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 2: call before we break. Lewis wants to talk Colts this morning. Lewis,

1840
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 2: what's on your mind?

1841
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 20: Yes, I don't think a lot of people understand how

1842
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 20: bad situation the Colts are in. I mean, we gave

1843
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 20: up two first draft draft picks for a saft gardener

1844
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 20: and it looks like we're not going to go to

1845
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 20: the playoffs. And I don't think even if Carli Ersay

1846
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 20: wanted to replace Chris Ballard, I know if I'm an executive,

1847
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 20: I wouldn't want.

1848
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 19: To come into this crap show. I mean, you don't

1849
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 19: have two first round traff picks, you don't know who

1850
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 19: your quarterback is going to be, and to make it

1851
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 19: work you have money tied up in positions that really

1852
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 19: aren't skilled positions, like in.

1853
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 20: The offensive line, the linebackers.

1854
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:36,640
Speaker 19: That's a terrible situation.

1855
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 14: We're looking at least.

1856
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 20: About a four to five year rebuild just to get

1857
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 20: underneath the mess that Ballert created.

1858
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 2: Thanks so phone call. We've talked about that earlier well.

1859
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 2: To address some of that more on the other side

1860
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 2: as well, and I'll start to talk to Kevin about

1861
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 2: what could the path what do the various paths forward

1862
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 2: look like for this team, both in the immediate and

1863
01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 2: in the long term. We'll do it as we continue here.

1864
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 2: On Monday morning nine, they.

1865
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 1: Sees the Fan Morning Show with Kabi Shaby and Jeff.

1866
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 7: Here's the staff.

1867
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:14,759
Speaker 2: Fernando throws it up field.

1868
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 3: Catches made at the thirty four yard line.

1869
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 4: Great grab, here's a Hoo's your doll already, Fernando Mendoza

1870
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 4: is on the ground.

1871
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 2: I did not see it.

1872
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 5: So Fernando gets decked on the first play of the

1873
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 5: ball game.

1874
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 2: Now he steps up.

1875
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 1: He's gonna be all right.

1876
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,759
Speaker 6: And Mendoza takes the snap, wants to throw it, fires

1877
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:32,559
Speaker 6: it down the field.

1878
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 2: It's free.

1879
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:37,680
Speaker 3: Elijah Soni makes the catch, touch stem it's gonna be

1880
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:40,679
Speaker 3: a twenty eight yard field goal. Here's the stamp field

1881
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:41,719
Speaker 3: and kicks the ball.

1882
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:42,959
Speaker 5: It is wide.

1883
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:49,560
Speaker 7: It is wide wide to the left. He missed the dast.

1884
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 8: Ndiana has big meal half steaks.

1885
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 7: Another one team on the cut right.

1886
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 1: Whoever the dude.

1887
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 2: Would be here. But now the hoosas we're flipping champs.

1888
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:00,120
Speaker 1: Let's go oh.

1889
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 9: Playoffs are just starting, and now we're gonna get it

1890
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:05,759
Speaker 9: by and so you gotta win three games.

1891
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 2: Glass of Bob to be played.

1892
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 3: Here's an RTHO and it's an interception and it's picked

1893
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 3: off by Devin Lloyd. Lloyd started right, cutting through, has left.

1894
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 3: He's gonna be chopped down.

1895
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 10: Another twenty one yard line all between the hash marks

1896
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 10: for Daniel Jones long back of the backfield as Jonathan Taylor.

1897
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 10: Jones on a counter gives off to Taylor knifing trying

1898
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 10: to fight.

1899
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 12: His way into the end zone.

1900
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:33,480
Speaker 1: He's in yes, touchdown.

1901
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 10: Game is tied at seventh. Lawrence goes out of the

1902
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 10: gun ball the right hash back to to pass he's

1903
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:40,760
Speaker 10: looking for to the right side and it's caught for

1904
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 10: a touchdown of the end zones to Jacoby Myers. A

1905
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 10: fourteen yard pass. There's a flag on the play and

1906
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:50,560
Speaker 10: Daniel Jones is down. Daniel Jones can't even make it

1907
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 10: over to the sideline.

1908
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 7: If you looked at he is seated.

1909
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 11: On the turf and he just slams his helmet to

1910
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 11: the grass. He is now limping over to the cold

1911
01:28:58,000 --> 01:28:58,839
Speaker 11: sidelin Florence.

1912
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 1: Out of the gun ball the right hand and he's.

1913
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 12: Going to give off right side. The ets lashes inside

1914
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 12: that thirty. He's got an apterue.

1915
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 10: He's going to go got the right sideline in the

1916
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:09,520
Speaker 10: infl for a touchdown untouched.

1917
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 13: Daniel Jones has an achy lease.

1918
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 2: Could be season inding.

1919
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 1: I don't have the full details on it.

1920
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 2: A lot of this stuff too.

1921
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 13: As you go through a season, you're gonna have You're

1922
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 13: gonna go through some storms and some adversity and you've

1923
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 13: got to overcome those.

1924
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 1: And so that's what we're gonna do.

1925
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 13: We're gonna find like crazy him believe and we know

1926
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:24,720
Speaker 13: that we got a big one coming up on the road.

1927
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 2: It's very complicated. Kevin Bowen, the highs, the lows, it's

1928
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 2: what we I suppose love about sports. But man as

1929
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 2: high as we saw that stadium on Saturday, night at

1930
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 2: Lucas Oil with the Indiana Colts fans feeling pretty low,

1931
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 2: and there's a great cross section of Indiana University fans

1932
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:53,760
Speaker 2: and Colts fans and they probably didn't know what to

1933
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 2: do with themselves after yessay, except compartmentalize. That's all you

1934
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 2: can do is compartmentalize at this point in time.

1935
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 7: Avril Levine complicated, Caleb excellent.

1936
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 2: There.

1937
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 7: I feel like I'm watching an episode of the Hills

1938
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 7: from back in my high school days hearing that song,

1939
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 7: you know, when Mendoza went down, and boy, that was

1940
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 7: a that was quite the clip you played there early on.

1941
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:18,599
Speaker 7: You know, for a moment there, I'm like, they're literally

1942
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 7: can't be nice things at all. I mean, can you

1943
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 7: imagine if like Banana Mendoza had been hurt bad on

1944
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 7: that hit by by the way, Kay and Gray from

1945
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:27,920
Speaker 7: Center Grove played a great game for for Ohio State there,

1946
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:30,080
Speaker 7: but you imagine if we had that and you know,

1947
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 7: Higo State would have won that game. But nonetheless, Mendoza

1948
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 7: pops up and the rest is history. A night to

1949
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 7: remember inside of Lucas Soil Stadium for Indiana fans, just

1950
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 7: the scene, you know, Aidan Fisher queuing up the crowd

1951
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 7: in the fight song. That's probably a memory that always

1952
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 7: having watching that and can only imagine what it was

1953
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 7: like for people you know that were in the building

1954
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 7: witnessing that. And you know, like I've said throughout the show,

1955
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 7: Jeff defense, defense, defense, the Indiana defense is championship level

1956
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 7: and that is the aspect of this team that stands

1957
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:59,680
Speaker 7: out the most. I know that Fernando Mendoza will lift

1958
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 7: the high trophy on Saturday, and he made a huge

1959
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 7: throw and catched Charlie Becker along with the one earlier

1960
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:08,679
Speaker 7: in the second half to him to ice that game.

1961
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:12,639
Speaker 7: But the Indiana defense, in particularly that defensive line has

1962
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 7: really been the unit all year long. You know, Dante

1963
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 7: Moore hadn't been sacked all season long. First play the

1964
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:21,479
Speaker 7: Oregon game sack. You go back to the Illinois game

1965
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 7: earlier this season when I forget what the final number was,

1966
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 7: seven to eight, it might have even been more than

1967
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 7: that sacks that they had. And then what they did

1968
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:31,720
Speaker 7: to Ohio States offense on Saturday night, you know, you

1969
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:33,640
Speaker 7: think about it, the only touchdown Ohio States score was

1970
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 7: because that an interception put them in a great field

1971
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 7: position there, so that is what is the thing I

1972
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:43,680
Speaker 7: probably holding the highest regard abouts Indiana team. Again, the

1973
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 7: curtzying Naty coaching job is right up there with any ever,

1974
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 7: but that defense. It is championship worthy.

1975
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:54,760
Speaker 2: It is championship worthy. And one of the things I've

1976
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:57,599
Speaker 2: liked about this team all year long is how physical

1977
01:31:57,680 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 2: they could be. And they've shown that defensively all the time.

1978
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:02,639
Speaker 2: But they've also been able to be a physical football

1979
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 2: team at times along the offensive line. Their running game

1980
01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 2: has gone underrated at some point in time because you

1981
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:11,519
Speaker 2: have these amazing talented receivers in sarat and Cooper and Becker,

1982
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 2: and they've had a nice running game. It is and

1983
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 2: you don't say this often, you know about any team, Kevin,

1984
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 2: This Indiana team is a really complete football team. Wouldn't

1985
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 2: you say it's a really complete team.

1986
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 7: They really have great balance, you know, I've special teams.

1987
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:31,280
Speaker 7: I've always thought their run game also is something that

1988
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 7: you know, provides the offense, you know, again, really really

1989
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 7: solid one two punch there. Yeah, they are, I mean

1990
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:40,679
Speaker 7: they you know, what is their weakness? It's really hard

1991
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 7: to say.

1992
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 19: I know.

1993
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 7: At times, Kurtzignetti has mentioned that he feels like, you know,

1994
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 7: maybe they're susceptible to the occasional big play, but you

1995
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:49,680
Speaker 7: know it's like Ohio State hit on that too too

1996
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:52,600
Speaker 7: much on Saturday. Yeah, you had the rare field goal

1997
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 7: miss from them, and again I thought Ryan Day was

1998
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:58,920
Speaker 7: so cowardly and kicking that field goal there at the end.

1999
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 7: I thought he deserved exactly what he got. I think

2000
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,200
Speaker 7: as soon as you make that decision, A, you missed

2001
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:06,000
Speaker 7: the kick, and then B Mendoza to beckert Ice the

2002
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:11,120
Speaker 7: game like that to me is just peak coaching softness.

2003
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 7: I guess it's the word that's popping into my head.

2004
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 7: And you deserve exactly what you got from there. But again,

2005
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 7: credit to Indiana for putting themselves in a position to

2006
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,479
Speaker 7: take advantage of that, keeping Ohio State out of the

2007
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 7: end zone for so much of Saturday night and pitching

2008
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 7: a shutout and you know, one of the biggest moments

2009
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 7: that program has ever had.

2010
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:29,839
Speaker 2: So they're the number one seed in the College Football Playoff,

2011
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 2: which means they'll get a buye the first week and

2012
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 2: then they will play whom have Well we'll know the

2013
01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:36,640
Speaker 2: winner of a game here in a second. But my

2014
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:39,280
Speaker 2: point is they next play at the Rose Bowl. Kevin

2015
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 2: four o'clock. Is it New Year's Day?

2016
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 1: Correct?

2017
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:45,759
Speaker 2: Now a day? Yep, as always. That's when the roseball.

2018
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:47,240
Speaker 2: That's one thing I like about the rose Ball. It's

2019
01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 2: either gonna be a three thirty or four o'clock start

2020
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:51,560
Speaker 2: on New Year's Day, regardless of what's going on.

2021
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:53,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, you have one quarter final game on New Year's

2022
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 7: Eve that will not be Indiana's. Indiana will be one

2023
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 7: of the three. I think it's three games on New

2024
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 7: Year's Day. They'll know their opponent coming up here. What

2025
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 7: is it a week from Friday? I think Alabama Oklahoma's

2026
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 7: the first. Yeah, that's first Friday night. That's the Friday night.

2027
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a rematch game Oklahoma won by two at

2028
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 2: Alabama earlier.

2029
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:12,799
Speaker 7: This year on in Norman.

2030
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. Because those first those first round games are

2031
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 2: all gonna be home games. So Oregon will be playing

2032
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:21,640
Speaker 2: at home against JMU, Oklahoma at home against Alabama, Ole

2033
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:24,720
Speaker 2: Miss home against Tulane in Texas A, and M home

2034
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:27,719
Speaker 2: against Miami, Texas A and M. That's one team people

2035
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 2: keep talking about the fact that everybody should be afraid of,

2036
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 2: but they got a brutal scuy if they would if

2037
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 2: they were to go play in the national championship game.

2038
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:38,800
Speaker 2: They would probably have to beat both Ohio State and

2039
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 2: Georgia just to get to the championship game.

2040
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:43,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought the draw for Indiana worked out really well.

2041
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 7: I mean the fact that you have for one seed right, well,

2042
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 7: it didn't last year. Yeah, that last year was if

2043
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 7: you once seed was like almost one of the worst

2044
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 7: last year. And you see Ohio State at the eight

2045
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:55,800
Speaker 7: and nine and I think that was the interesting, you

2046
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 7: know element a little bit yesterday when you had some

2047
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 7: of those projected brackets of potentially in the eight nine game.

2048
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 7: But now that it's you know, Oklahoma and Alabama, I think,

2049
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:07,599
Speaker 7: you know, you you breathe a little bit. There's probably

2050
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 7: always a little SEC element to it, you know.

2051
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:10,600
Speaker 15: I know.

2052
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 7: I think last year, the fact that Notre Dame like

2053
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:14,560
Speaker 7: had to beat Georgia to get on their run, I

2054
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:16,760
Speaker 7: think that matters. I think for Indiana fans, you know,

2055
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:19,519
Speaker 7: beating the SEC team, not that Oklahoma and Alabama are like,

2056
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 7: you know whatever, viewed as the best team in the

2057
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 7: SEC this year, but still beating the team from that conference,

2058
01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 7: I think always matters a little bit more, particularly on

2059
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:31,519
Speaker 7: a neutral field, which is what you would get there,

2060
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 7: So I don't know. I think that maybe just kind

2061
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:36,360
Speaker 7: of sweetens the potential path for them to make it

2062
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 7: all the way to the national title.

2063
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 2: Can you imagine Indiana Ohio State again at the national

2064
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 2: championship game.

2065
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 16: I'd sign up for it, I think. I think it's

2066
01:35:44,160 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 16: as a fan, it'd be an awesome game. I think

2067
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:48,280
Speaker 16: those are two best teams in college football. And I

2068
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 16: also want to add this Kevin too. And I'm curious

2069
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:54,559
Speaker 16: because we talked Friday about it, Like, I think both

2070
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 16: teams really cared and again all the talk about conference

2071
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:02,760
Speaker 16: championships not meaning as much, both those teams played hard

2072
01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 16: and it was a fun game to watch. It didn't

2073
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 16: get the pomp and circumstance because there were no real

2074
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:10,759
Speaker 16: consequences for the loser in a one versus two matchup.

2075
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 16: But I just really appreciated that both teams won it.

2076
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 16: And I think it makes the Ryan day point about

2077
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 16: kicking that field goal all the more head scratching.

2078
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I heard from some Ohio State fans on

2079
01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:26,679
Speaker 7: Sunday of we expended all our energy in ann Arbor

2080
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:31,759
Speaker 7: the previous Saturday. Come on, Yeah, I know, but welcome

2081
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 7: to Ohio State fans. But That is why I am

2082
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:38,960
Speaker 7: curious for a matchup for a rematch potentially here in

2083
01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 7: a little over a month, because is that real or

2084
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 7: is that not? I think it is fair to say

2085
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 7: the biggest game in Ohio State schedule before the national

2086
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:49,120
Speaker 7: title is the Michigan game. Like, I don't think there's

2087
01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:50,880
Speaker 7: any ignoring that. I said it last week. It's why

2088
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:52,559
Speaker 7: I picked ay you, I picked IU in the win

2089
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 7: because I did think that that game mattered more to

2090
01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:59,160
Speaker 7: you than it did to Ohio State. So what would

2091
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 7: that play out here in a little over a month.

2092
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:07,320
Speaker 7: But again, you know the fact that as a program,

2093
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:10,719
Speaker 7: you get to have that moment on Saturday night. Indiana

2094
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 7: fans aren't going to care whether Ohio State circled it,

2095
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 7: you know, more or less on the calendar and the

2096
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 7: end of the day, they ended a thirty year streak

2097
01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 7: against Ohio State and won a Big ten championship in

2098
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 7: the state capital. That's all they care about, and.

2099
01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:25,759
Speaker 2: It's people are still walking around on cloud nine today

2100
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:29,080
Speaker 2: as they should if they're Indiana football fans. They have

2101
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:32,639
Speaker 2: had an unbelievable dream season and it continues on. As

2102
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 2: the top seed in the College Football Playoff, Notre Dame

2103
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 2: on the outside looking in. We've talked about that a lot, Kevin,

2104
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 2: did you get it off your chest? Do you feel

2105
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 2: like you've cleared clear the air now? We gave you

2106
01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 2: a good twelve minutes a few minutes ago.

2107
01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:50,360
Speaker 7: Why does BYU drop but Alabama doesn't.

2108
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 2: Because they're Alabama and the SEC folks who make up

2109
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:55,840
Speaker 2: a large part of that committee and who drive these things.

2110
01:37:56,080 --> 01:38:00,200
Speaker 2: There's Alabama's got three losses, and they've been awful in

2111
01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:03,120
Speaker 2: the last month, and they got beat by three touchdowns

2112
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 2: in their conference championship game. They don't deserve to be

2113
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:11,320
Speaker 2: in this playoff. The fact that they've actually risen in

2114
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 2: the polls while they've been subpar for the last month,

2115
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 2: and Notre Dame, to your point, has been ripping people

2116
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:21,800
Speaker 2: apart and has dropped consistently in the last couple of weeks.

2117
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:23,200
Speaker 2: Why even have the rankings?

2118
01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:25,400
Speaker 16: It just means more in the SEC, guys, you know

2119
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 16: Tennessee and Missouri or quality wins, don't you know, like

2120
01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:31,639
Speaker 16: those are good, hard fought football teams because the SEC

2121
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 16: is just so competitive.

2122
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:36,800
Speaker 7: I think I've bitched a moan enough. No one wants

2123
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:38,519
Speaker 7: to hear me a bitch of moon anymore. Uh So

2124
01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:40,320
Speaker 7: you're telling me a fourth grader has never seen the

2125
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 7: Colts win in Jacksonville ever, like fourth grade twelve?

2126
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 2: Is it eleven fair to say that from Rosie's perspective, it's.

2127
01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:53,720
Speaker 7: Been eleven years, right, twenty fourteen? You got to go back,

2128
01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:56,360
Speaker 7: So I don't know, third grader something like that, you've

2129
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:57,680
Speaker 7: never seen the Colts.

2130
01:38:57,520 --> 01:38:59,200
Speaker 2: Even for the younger ones? Is it fair to say

2131
01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 2: that that in Rosie's lifetime, Trevor Lawrence is Indianapolis's daddy. Yeah,

2132
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2133
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:10,639
Speaker 7: Said might be C. J. Strouds Stroud's one all three

2134
01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:12,599
Speaker 7: times he's played in lucas Oo Stadium against the Colts.

2135
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 7: That I mean both, I guess could be.

2136
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2137
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:20,240
Speaker 7: It just of all the losses you could make an

2138
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:23,760
Speaker 7: argument of all the losses down there in Jacksonville, yesterday's

2139
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 7: is the most crippling because of the long term ramifications

2140
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:30,720
Speaker 7: of it, of the cloudiness, the murkiness you put on

2141
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:34,000
Speaker 7: your franchise. Now and again, I don't think any of

2142
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:37,760
Speaker 7: the answers are obvious right now, Okay, Like it's very

2143
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 7: easy to say fire everybody, but as we pointed out

2144
01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 7: all morning long, that means you're handing a new rebuild.

2145
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:51,800
Speaker 7: No first round picks, not for two years, not just

2146
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:57,920
Speaker 7: next year. Yeah, and again, in my very very twelve hour,

2147
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:01,639
Speaker 7: I want to give this more, but my first gut

2148
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 7: is no, might as well just start Anthony Richardson in

2149
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:09,240
Speaker 7: twenty twenty six. Well, then he's under contract for one

2150
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:11,719
Speaker 7: more year. That's not the fifth year team option. Daniel

2151
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 7: Jones with an achilles injury likely I guess out. And so, okay,

2152
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:17,960
Speaker 7: what do you do quarterback wise? You don't have a

2153
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:20,000
Speaker 7: first round pick. Are you really going to go out

2154
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:22,720
Speaker 7: there and spend major money? It's weird because so much

2155
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:25,920
Speaker 7: of your roster says will win now, because look at

2156
01:40:25,960 --> 01:40:28,840
Speaker 7: Buckner's age, look at Nelson's age, look at Taylor's age.

2157
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:31,519
Speaker 7: You look at Franklin's age, look at Mooney Ward, Kenny Moore.

2158
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 7: I mean, I can go on and on with all

2159
01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:37,960
Speaker 7: the ages that you have with this roster, But what

2160
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 7: it says to you that you should go out there

2161
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:42,600
Speaker 7: and all of a sudden spend more? And like, what

2162
01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:45,400
Speaker 7: does the Daniel Jones contract look like? I mean, you're

2163
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:48,080
Speaker 7: not slapping the franchise. The whole franchise tag idea is

2164
01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:52,559
Speaker 7: gone obviously, So what are you doing contractually with him?

2165
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:55,160
Speaker 2: Are you ready? Here's the big question, are you ready

2166
01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 2: to blow the whole thing up and start over? I mean,

2167
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:01,040
Speaker 2: I thought that I should been fired last year.

2168
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:03,559
Speaker 7: I wrote at the end of the season, talk about

2169
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:06,720
Speaker 7: the year Ballard and Gus Bradley with the two that

2170
01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 7: I thought should have gone last year. Yeah, there is

2171
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 7: an element to that, Jeff. That thought has also crossed

2172
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:15,280
Speaker 7: my mind in the last twelve hours. You know, if

2173
01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 7: you start to trade some of these pieces whatever Buckner, Taylor,

2174
01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:25,000
Speaker 7: whoever you want to view that could lend something in return,

2175
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:28,680
Speaker 7: all of a sudden, do you create draft picks that

2176
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:31,720
Speaker 7: get you back in the round one? Yeah, you are

2177
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:35,080
Speaker 7: blowing it up, but are you helping out the rebuild

2178
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:37,519
Speaker 7: a little bit more? I think it's a very real

2179
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 7: conversation you have to have. And the unknown in all

2180
01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:41,320
Speaker 7: of this is we have no idea how Carly or

2181
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:42,240
Speaker 7: say Gordon views.

2182
01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:44,760
Speaker 2: It and who would be in charge of the rebuild too.

2183
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:48,679
Speaker 7: And as we've debated here really ever since Carly was hired,

2184
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:50,720
Speaker 7: are Chris should Chris Bouten? And change that can be

2185
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:54,559
Speaker 7: tied together because if we just gave out individual letter

2186
01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:56,760
Speaker 7: grades for the two, they would not be the same

2187
01:41:56,840 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 7: letter grade. But should gms and head coaches be tied

2188
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:03,560
Speaker 7: at the hYP no matter when they're hired.

2189
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:07,000
Speaker 2: Well and the complicated party, I largely think.

2190
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:10,400
Speaker 7: That, yeah, But at the same time, I don't view

2191
01:42:10,439 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 7: Ballard and Striking in their individual jobs in the same light.

2192
01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:15,760
Speaker 2: And it's always too if you do bring in a

2193
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:19,200
Speaker 2: new general manager, the head coach is not necessarily.

2194
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:23,439
Speaker 7: His guy, correct I mean, look at the Tennessee situation.

2195
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 7: You know, it rarely goes well. I think San Francisco

2196
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:28,000
Speaker 7: maybe is one of the few times, right if I

2197
01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:31,639
Speaker 7: remember correctly, where John Lynch was hired with Kyle Shanahan

2198
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:33,720
Speaker 7: already on staff and it's worked out. It's one of

2199
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 7: the very rare instances in the NFL where you see

2200
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 7: head coach in place, new GM comes in and somehow

2201
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 7: that process works out. So, you know, I assume it'll

2202
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:48,519
Speaker 7: be Riley Leonard here over the final four weeks. That's

2203
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 7: at Seattle, San Francisco, Jacksonville, at Houston, you know, weirdly

2204
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:54,640
Speaker 7: for the playoff crowd out there, maybe we can get

2205
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:58,160
Speaker 7: more into this. On the other side, there's not a

2206
01:42:58,320 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 7: lot of like basically right now, if you look at

2207
01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:02,320
Speaker 7: the AFC Playoffs. You could make the case it's eight

2208
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 7: teams for seven spots. Yeah, and if the Chargers lose tonight,

2209
01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 7: the Colts do have the head to head and they

2210
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:13,519
Speaker 7: have the same record as them, and you could make

2211
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 7: a case the Chargers schedule the rest of the season

2212
01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:18,200
Speaker 7: is harder than the Colts schedule the rest of the year.

2213
01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:21,559
Speaker 7: Now I say all that and say, are the Colts

2214
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:26,719
Speaker 7: gonna win another game? I mean, you could be looking

2215
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:29,720
Speaker 7: at I don't believe Alec Pearce's inconcussion protocol, will have

2216
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:31,479
Speaker 7: to see the injury update is. But let's just play

2217
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:33,439
Speaker 7: this out. You're looking at a game at Seattle on Sunday,

2218
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:37,200
Speaker 7: potentially without Daniel Jones, Braden Smith, the Forrest Buckner and Sausgartner.

2219
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:42,160
Speaker 2: I don't feel confident and.

2220
01:43:42,160 --> 01:43:47,800
Speaker 7: You're a ten point underdog. So yeah. The amount of

2221
01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:51,440
Speaker 7: questions that now must be discussed inside of Colts headquarters

2222
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:57,280
Speaker 7: at nine am today Verst where you were nine am yesterday,

2223
01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:04,000
Speaker 7: is just amazing, amazing. There there are some comparisons to

2224
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:05,559
Speaker 7: the Tyres Haliburton thing. I think there are a lot

2225
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:10,120
Speaker 7: of differences as well. But man, and I'll just say this, boy,

2226
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 7: I feel so so bad for Daniel Jones. You know,

2227
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:15,439
Speaker 7: I'm not going to pretend to know Daniel Jones super well.

2228
01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 7: He strikes me as a nice guy. Obviously he's been

2229
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:20,720
Speaker 7: pretty subdued with the media, but have heard, you know,

2230
01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 7: his greeammates love it good things about him, and just

2231
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:26,559
Speaker 7: to watch his frustration on the field and to see,

2232
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:29,760
Speaker 7: you know, I can imagine he's been through a lot

2233
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:32,920
Speaker 7: as a professional athlete and not working out in New York,

2234
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:35,720
Speaker 7: seemingly finding this success here and then all of a

2235
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:37,680
Speaker 7: sudden over the last month it doesn't go well. And

2236
01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:39,760
Speaker 7: not to mention if you want to just bring up

2237
01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:42,800
Speaker 7: the financials, he probably lost what I don't know, fifty

2238
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 7: some million just with that injury. You know, wats to

2239
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:49,000
Speaker 7: see how it all plays out, but you wish you

2240
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:50,719
Speaker 7: could just turn off injuries sometimes in sports.

2241
01:44:51,160 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 2: Daniels Jones is what twenty eight?

2242
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:55,920
Speaker 7: Ah, that strikes me. It's probably right around there, twenty eight,

2243
01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:56,640
Speaker 7: twenty nine, something like that.

2244
01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:58,920
Speaker 2: So the other thing that that Chris Pallard and the

2245
01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:01,040
Speaker 2: Colts have to figure out is you now have an

2246
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:04,519
Speaker 2: oft injured guy coming off and Achilles who will be

2247
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:08,600
Speaker 2: twenty nine. And although they loved what he did, the

2248
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:12,599
Speaker 2: first eight games of this season. How do you put

2249
01:45:12,640 --> 01:45:13,880
Speaker 2: together a full evaluation?

2250
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:17,639
Speaker 7: Now, Well, the most consistent thing on the Daniel Jones resume,

2251
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:22,679
Speaker 7: sadly injuries, is his injury history. That's the most consistent

2252
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:25,639
Speaker 7: thing on his resume. And again that's the one gripe

2253
01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:26,960
Speaker 7: as we if you want to go back to the

2254
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:29,560
Speaker 7: Sauce Gardener trade and you had time constraints on it

2255
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 7: because the trade headline was there, the one gripe would

2256
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:39,720
Speaker 7: be has Daniel Jones earned this? Is two months of

2257
01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:44,400
Speaker 7: good football enough for you to make that move, because

2258
01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:47,840
Speaker 7: Daniel Jones's resume would lead you to say, oh boy,

2259
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:50,320
Speaker 7: I don't think he has earned that. And I think

2260
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:52,960
Speaker 7: at the time it was a very fair conversation not

2261
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:55,040
Speaker 7: only just his own individual play, but probably more of

2262
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:56,720
Speaker 7: his availability.

2263
01:45:56,800 --> 01:45:58,479
Speaker 2: So the other thing I want to point out too,

2264
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 2: for for Anthony Richardson, it felt like at the beginning

2265
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:06,799
Speaker 2: of the year, when they named Daniel Jones the starting quarterback,

2266
01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:08,880
Speaker 2: that they had kind of made their decision to kind

2267
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 2: of move on from Anthony Richardson as any thought of

2268
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:12,280
Speaker 2: being a franchise quarterback.

2269
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:12,960
Speaker 7: It felt that way.

2270
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 2: Am I overstating that?

2271
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:14,840
Speaker 11: No?

2272
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:16,080
Speaker 9: Right?

2273
01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:19,280
Speaker 2: And so now he's coming back off an injury, and

2274
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:20,680
Speaker 2: I know for the crowd that'll say, well, you know

2275
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 2: he was eight and seven as a starter. Wasn't a disaster,

2276
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:25,720
Speaker 2: But you never felt like, hey, this is the guy

2277
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 2: we're going to hitch our wagons too, and it's all

2278
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:30,760
Speaker 2: going to be good. Do you do you sign him?

2279
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:33,280
Speaker 2: Do you pick up that fifth year and say, Okay,

2280
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, show us what you got.

2281
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:37,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, right now, I don't think you need to pick

2282
01:46:37,880 --> 01:46:43,320
Speaker 7: that up. But you know, again, in my twelve hour thoughts,

2283
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:46,920
Speaker 7: I think Anthony Richardson potentially as your starting quarterback in

2284
01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:51,439
Speaker 7: twenty twenty six is potentially the route to explore. I

2285
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:53,840
Speaker 7: don't know. If someone wants to present another option to me,

2286
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:56,200
Speaker 7: I'll happily open my ears and listen to it.

2287
01:46:56,400 --> 01:46:58,720
Speaker 2: All right, we'll get to some headlines from yesterday's game

2288
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:00,479
Speaker 2: coming up in a moment, but right now we've got

2289
01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:01,000
Speaker 2: to check.

2290
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:05,240
Speaker 15: It down the Morning Checkdown on ninety thwee five and

2291
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:07,559
Speaker 15: one oh seven five the band Kevin.

2292
01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:09,599
Speaker 2: We're going to start with the good news. The Indiana

2293
01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:12,160
Speaker 2: Hoosiers are the number one ranked team in the nation.

2294
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:14,719
Speaker 2: They are the number one seed in the twenty twenty

2295
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:18,200
Speaker 2: five College Football Playoff. They have a bye in the

2296
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:20,719
Speaker 2: first round and they will be waiting for the winner

2297
01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:23,799
Speaker 2: of Alabama Oklahoma. They'll play that game at four o'clock

2298
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:27,320
Speaker 2: in the afternoon New Year's Day at the Rose Bowl.

2299
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:32,280
Speaker 2: Georgia won the SEC championship game. They are the number

2300
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 2: three seed, Texas Tech the four seed. Interesting that Ohio

2301
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:37,439
Speaker 2: State stays the number two seed and flip flop. And

2302
01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:38,920
Speaker 2: I go back to what you said a minute ago.

2303
01:47:39,880 --> 01:47:42,519
Speaker 2: You had a pretty good idea that if it was

2304
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:44,800
Speaker 2: a close fought game, that Indiana and Ohio State were

2305
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:46,360
Speaker 2: going to be the one in two seeds in this

2306
01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:50,640
Speaker 2: college football playoff. Why did Ohio State just go for

2307
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:52,920
Speaker 2: it with really not much to lose there at the

2308
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:55,280
Speaker 2: very end instead of trying for a tying field goal.

2309
01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:57,679
Speaker 7: Hell, I thought the dude almost missed the first chip shot.

2310
01:47:57,880 --> 01:47:59,479
Speaker 7: I thought that thing was going to Rickcochet. I thought

2311
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 7: we're getting ano what's his name? Michael Badsley off the

2312
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 7: left up right. Shout out to Blake Groupie kicking nicely

2313
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:08,759
Speaker 7: in the rain yesterday. But yeah, quite the cowardly decision.

2314
01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:12,240
Speaker 7: And then Charlie b from Tennessee making another play to

2315
01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 7: quote Gus Johnson as he hauled that in from Fernando

2316
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:18,360
Speaker 7: Mendoza to kind of I think cement the game and

2317
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:22,160
Speaker 7: cement the Heisman trophy as well, and then quite the

2318
01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:23,760
Speaker 7: scene played out from there.

2319
01:48:24,200 --> 01:48:26,200
Speaker 2: We also have to mention that Notre Dame was left

2320
01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:29,760
Speaker 2: out of the College Football Playoff twelve team inchree. They

2321
01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:32,519
Speaker 2: have decided to not play in any kind of a

2322
01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:34,519
Speaker 2: bowl game. How are you okay? You okay with them

2323
01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:35,680
Speaker 2: not playing in a bowl game?

2324
01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:35,960
Speaker 14: Yeah?

2325
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:37,840
Speaker 7: I probably should say that for a few more thoughts

2326
01:48:37,880 --> 01:48:39,760
Speaker 7: on that, I don't want to. I think there was

2327
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:41,800
Speaker 7: a little bit more there than Matt I don't love

2328
01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:44,920
Speaker 7: love it. I also can sit here and say when

2329
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:47,080
Speaker 7: Sam Hartman decided not to play in a bowl game

2330
01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:49,800
Speaker 7: a few years ago as a future seventh round pick

2331
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:52,320
Speaker 7: in the NFL, I thought to myself, are we about

2332
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:55,080
Speaker 7: done with these bowl games? I mean, opt outs galore

2333
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:58,400
Speaker 7: galore in these bowl games, And like, there's part of

2334
01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:01,799
Speaker 7: me that once the nil to be tied to plane

2335
01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:06,120
Speaker 7: in a postseason game. Like if I'm whatever company here

2336
01:49:06,479 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 7: or revenue sharing here, and I'm handing you this amount

2337
01:49:09,080 --> 01:49:11,439
Speaker 7: of money, Jeff Record, I'm saying to you, I expect

2338
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:13,800
Speaker 7: you play in the postseason game, yep. And I don't

2339
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:15,120
Speaker 7: care if it's a playoff game or if it's a

2340
01:49:15,120 --> 01:49:15,519
Speaker 7: bowl game.

2341
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:18,880
Speaker 2: Yep. I would agree with that. NFL yesterday obviously the

2342
01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:22,360
Speaker 2: Colts losing in Jacksonville thirty six nineteen, But the lead

2343
01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:26,360
Speaker 2: is that Daniel Jones has an achilles injury. Will get

2344
01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:29,080
Speaker 2: confirmation later today if it's torn. It seems to be

2345
01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:34,360
Speaker 2: that that's going to be the case, and let's forego

2346
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:37,880
Speaker 2: the grand future. What are the Colts do in the

2347
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:39,759
Speaker 2: immediate quarterback Kevin Bowena.

2348
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 7: I assume it's Ryley Leonard, and they do have Brett

2349
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:44,120
Speaker 7: Rippen on their practice squad. He has started. I want

2350
01:49:44,120 --> 01:49:45,719
Speaker 7: to say, it's a handful of games in the NFL.

2351
01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:47,920
Speaker 7: The last time he threw a pass though, is twenty

2352
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:50,600
Speaker 7: Denver or was it? Yeah, I was in Denver. I

2353
01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:52,840
Speaker 7: think he got in with Cincinnati earlier this year but

2354
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:56,040
Speaker 7: didn't throw a pass. So that was twenty twenty three,

2355
01:49:56,160 --> 01:49:59,040
Speaker 7: so you know you could go there, but you know,

2356
01:49:59,320 --> 01:50:03,519
Speaker 7: I to me, I just say, hey, treat Riley Leonard

2357
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:05,040
Speaker 7: like you treated them in the opening drive of the

2358
01:50:05,120 --> 01:50:07,240
Speaker 7: National Title Game. Run him to death and throw a

2359
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:09,439
Speaker 7: couple jump balls to all of Pierce and see what happens.

2360
01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:12,000
Speaker 2: Colts now have to get ready for a game coming

2361
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:16,040
Speaker 2: up next Sunday at home against the Seattle Seahawks, and

2362
01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:18,240
Speaker 2: we'll talk about that more as the week moves along.

2363
01:50:18,360 --> 01:50:22,360
Speaker 2: Last night AFC South Sunday Night Football, Houston Texans come

2364
01:50:22,439 --> 01:50:24,679
Speaker 2: up with a twenty to ten victory over the Kansas

2365
01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:28,200
Speaker 2: City Chiefs. Speaking about fourth down decisions there in a

2366
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:30,559
Speaker 2: game that was still tied in close second half, Andy

2367
01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:33,360
Speaker 2: Reid on his own thirty one yard line goes for

2368
01:50:33,520 --> 01:50:36,640
Speaker 2: fourth and one and fails miserably, and he's taking some

2369
01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:37,560
Speaker 2: criticism for that.

2370
01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:40,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, No, I didn't get that one at all, especially

2371
01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:43,879
Speaker 7: against that Houston defense. So big, big win for the Texans.

2372
01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 7: Chiefs on life support and right now with that win,

2373
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:49,240
Speaker 7: that did knock the Colts out of the playoff picture,

2374
01:50:50,439 --> 01:50:53,760
Speaker 7: so they are the eighth seed currently. Houston goes above

2375
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:54,519
Speaker 7: Indianapolis and.

2376
01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:57,639
Speaker 2: Later on tonight Philadelphia playing Los Angeles on Monday Night Football,

2377
01:50:57,680 --> 01:51:00,439
Speaker 2: the Chargers version of the Los Angeles That is an

2378
01:51:00,479 --> 01:51:02,080
Speaker 2: interesting game from the Colts perspective.

2379
01:51:02,160 --> 01:51:04,559
Speaker 7: Kevin, Yes, if you are a fan of the Colts

2380
01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:07,400
Speaker 7: making the playoffs, you want the Eagles badly tonight.

2381
01:51:08,800 --> 01:51:10,559
Speaker 2: Mark not here today, but I did want to mention

2382
01:51:10,640 --> 01:51:12,759
Speaker 2: that the Green Bay Packers did beat the Chicago Bears,

2383
01:51:12,760 --> 01:51:15,800
Speaker 2: because he's probably listening somewhere right now. I want to

2384
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:18,240
Speaker 2: throw that in. Okay, Who've got a big grin on

2385
01:51:18,280 --> 01:51:18,639
Speaker 2: your face?

2386
01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:21,880
Speaker 16: You'll have to answer and June tomorrow, so all right.

2387
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:23,680
Speaker 7: Oh and Mark, he's going to remember that one.

2388
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:26,640
Speaker 2: NBA later on tonight. The Abana Pacers, coming off of

2389
01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 2: victory Friday night on the road in Chicago, will be

2390
01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:32,280
Speaker 2: taking on these Sacramento Kings. If you're a Demana Sabonas fan,

2391
01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:34,240
Speaker 2: you will not be able to see him tonight. Kevin

2392
01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:37,840
Speaker 2: Pacers favored. I like that, it doesn't happen very often.

2393
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:39,960
Speaker 7: Again, nice road win their first one of the year

2394
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:43,160
Speaker 7: on Friday. Siaka matherin great and the Ethan Thompson story.

2395
01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:45,360
Speaker 7: You'll probably get more into it tomorrow. Th Rick Carlisle,

2396
01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:50,440
Speaker 7: but it makes his NBA debut plays well for the team. Unfortunately,

2397
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:52,439
Speaker 7: the Pacers have had had a few of these stories

2398
01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:54,800
Speaker 7: this season, but really cool to see.

2399
01:51:55,240 --> 01:51:57,760
Speaker 2: Also in the NBA last night, Oklahoma City Will went

2400
01:51:57,800 --> 01:52:01,479
Speaker 2: over the Utah Jazz by thirty points. Are twenty three

2401
01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 2: and one. KB they are rolling through not just the

2402
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:09,040
Speaker 2: Western Conference, but all of the NBA right now. College basketball. Yesterday,

2403
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:12,080
Speaker 2: Indiana State a winner over Southern Indiana seventy seven to

2404
01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:16,799
Speaker 2: fifty five was the final score. There. One other football

2405
01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:18,320
Speaker 2: game I didn't want to bring up over the weekend.

2406
01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:21,479
Speaker 2: Depau seasons come to an end in Division three. They

2407
01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:24,680
Speaker 2: lost their second round playoff game to Wheaton. Forty nine.

2408
01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:26,840
Speaker 2: Twenty four was the final score in that one.

2409
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:29,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, only other one I wanted to mention. Shout out

2410
01:52:29,160 --> 01:52:31,360
Speaker 7: to the volleyball programs in West Lofie. Adam Bloom met

2411
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:35,080
Speaker 7: in both in the sweet sixteen. For IU, it's really unprecedented.

2412
01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:37,680
Speaker 7: I think they've getten number one Texas coming up here

2413
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:39,800
Speaker 7: in the sweet sixteen round. Perdy has had a great

2414
01:52:39,880 --> 01:52:42,400
Speaker 7: run under Dave Shawn Down. They are back in the

2415
01:52:42,439 --> 01:52:43,240
Speaker 7: sweet sixteen.

2416
01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:46,080
Speaker 2: All right, that's going to wrap it up for the Checkdown.

2417
01:52:46,120 --> 01:52:48,280
Speaker 2: We'll talk about the Colts and maybe some people thoughts

2418
01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:49,920
Speaker 2: on that. You can hit us up on the text

2419
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:52,680
Speaker 2: line two three, nine, ten to seventy all about the

2420
01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:55,120
Speaker 2: Achilles I think for the Colts, and we'll talk about

2421
01:52:55,120 --> 01:52:56,880
Speaker 2: it next ninety three five one or seven to five.

2422
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:02,720
Speaker 10: On second down kids off to Jonathan Taylor powering. He

2423
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:05,559
Speaker 10: lost the ball inside the thirty yard yards and it's

2424
01:53:05,640 --> 01:53:08,320
Speaker 10: picked up by the jack walls. Taylor was fighting for

2425
01:53:08,439 --> 01:53:11,479
Speaker 10: extra yards and in the process the ball came out.

2426
01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:14,920
Speaker 10: It's a recovery by Jerry and Jones, the cornerback of

2427
01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:18,240
Speaker 10: the Colts, have just turned it over in their own territory.

2428
01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:27,080
Speaker 2: The highs the lows. Being a sports fan Indiana on

2429
01:53:27,160 --> 01:53:29,559
Speaker 2: the way to the college football playoff the number one seed,

2430
01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:33,320
Speaker 2: watching video right now at ESPN off Daniel Jones limping

2431
01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:37,240
Speaker 2: off the field in Jacksonville yesterday, and we'll get confirmation

2432
01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:39,320
Speaker 2: later today whether or not he did in fact tear

2433
01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:41,800
Speaker 2: that achilles. But all you need to see is him

2434
01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:45,000
Speaker 2: slamming that helmet down on the sideline and going immediately

2435
01:53:45,080 --> 01:53:47,360
Speaker 2: to the blue tent. Kevin, that was the look of

2436
01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:49,280
Speaker 2: a man who knew exactly what had just happened.

2437
01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:53,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, fell awful for him. Yeah, everything he's been through

2438
01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:56,080
Speaker 7: leaving New York and you know what he's found here.

2439
01:53:56,200 --> 01:53:59,280
Speaker 7: And I know his play had dipped a little bit

2440
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:01,920
Speaker 7: over the last month. I thought it was a really,

2441
01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:06,240
Speaker 7: really bad interception to start the game yesterday. Unfortunately, Yeah,

2442
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:08,240
Speaker 7: you just fell off of for him, it seems like

2443
01:54:08,280 --> 01:54:09,160
Speaker 7: a good dude and everything.

2444
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:12,040
Speaker 2: People still want to talk about the defense, though, Dude

2445
01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:14,439
Speaker 2: from Cicero says, enjoy the show a couple of things though,

2446
01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:17,719
Speaker 2: Can we finally talk about the defense always gaps, giving

2447
01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:21,719
Speaker 2: up the big play and third down conversions consistently all season?

2448
01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:25,240
Speaker 2: Every season they looked amazing first two weeks, steady declined

2449
01:54:25,280 --> 01:54:27,600
Speaker 2: since and I understand they mostly keep points low, but

2450
01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:30,479
Speaker 2: thirteen ten is still a loss. A game like yesterday

2451
01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:33,800
Speaker 2: makes everybody feel about how this defense is ninety five

2452
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:37,200
Speaker 2: percent of the season. So just not happy generally with

2453
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:40,480
Speaker 2: the Colts as the season has progressed, and we've talked

2454
01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:41,800
Speaker 2: about that. So one of the reasons they went out

2455
01:54:41,800 --> 01:54:43,960
Speaker 2: and got Sauce Gardner, and for the most part they

2456
01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:48,120
Speaker 2: just haven't had a consistent pass rush along that defensive front.

2457
01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:52,040
Speaker 2: And you know, got even harder when DeForest Buckner goes

2458
01:54:52,080 --> 01:54:54,320
Speaker 2: out because now he's not even demanding a there's nobody

2459
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:56,000
Speaker 2: there demanding a double team, even in the middle of

2460
01:54:56,040 --> 01:54:56,720
Speaker 2: the of the line.

2461
01:54:56,760 --> 01:54:58,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think if you were looking at the season

2462
01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:00,840
Speaker 7: as a whole, what are the Colts fourteen games in

2463
01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:05,440
Speaker 7: something like that? Thirteen you know I'd put that defensive

2464
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:07,120
Speaker 7: effort yesterday up there with one of the worst of

2465
01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:10,720
Speaker 7: the year. And I get no Gardner, no Buckner, Jacksonville

2466
01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:12,520
Speaker 7: en counter and say, we didn't have our left tackle,

2467
01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:16,120
Speaker 7: we didn't have our leading pass catcher. Okay, season high

2468
01:55:16,840 --> 01:55:19,200
Speaker 7: Trevor Lawrence doesn't look like that all year. For those

2469
01:55:19,280 --> 01:55:21,320
Speaker 7: that have not watched the Jags, that was the best

2470
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:24,840
Speaker 7: game in that weather Trevor Lawrence produced that You did

2471
01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:27,600
Speaker 7: not hit or sack him one time. How do you

2472
01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:30,440
Speaker 7: not just fall into one of those? How does Trevor

2473
01:55:30,520 --> 01:55:33,120
Speaker 7: Lawrence not just like trip and fall and you know

2474
01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 7: Samson ebucom just steps on them.

2475
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:38,520
Speaker 2: And that offensive it wasn't at full strength either.

2476
01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:40,520
Speaker 7: No, they were without their left tackle. Like I said,

2477
01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:45,280
Speaker 7: it just yeah and big picture like meeting the moment.

2478
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:48,400
Speaker 7: It's weird for me to say the moment is Jacksonville

2479
01:55:48,440 --> 01:55:51,120
Speaker 7: and Houston, but those are the teams in your division

2480
01:55:52,200 --> 01:55:54,160
Speaker 7: and in the Stiking era. You're two and eight against

2481
01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:58,320
Speaker 7: him against the Tech, and we don't talk about the

2482
01:55:58,360 --> 01:56:01,760
Speaker 7: Texans then Jags, like we talk about you know, other

2483
01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:04,200
Speaker 7: vaunted teams in the NFL. You know, no one is

2484
01:56:04,240 --> 01:56:06,960
Speaker 7: talking about them in the top five ten I don't

2485
01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:08,680
Speaker 7: even know if they're talking about in the top fifteen

2486
01:56:09,080 --> 01:56:11,640
Speaker 7: of the league over the last three years. Hell Jacksonville

2487
01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:16,560
Speaker 7: fired their coach, so I think that is bothersome. I

2488
01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:18,040
Speaker 7: didn't I know we touched on a little bit earlier.

2489
01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:20,000
Speaker 7: I want to go back to that sequence late first half,

2490
01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:23,480
Speaker 7: because I thought the game was still real right after

2491
01:56:23,520 --> 01:56:25,720
Speaker 7: Gover Stewart got the force fumble. I think in the

2492
01:56:25,840 --> 01:56:27,280
Speaker 7: rain games, anything could happen.

2493
01:56:27,600 --> 01:56:29,600
Speaker 2: Jack turn over here, maybe get a pick, right.

2494
01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:31,400
Speaker 7: I mean, we saw fumbles there on the second quarter

2495
01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:35,240
Speaker 7: by by both teams. And when you got that force

2496
01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:40,280
Speaker 7: fumble and you are across the fifty and it's now

2497
01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:42,320
Speaker 7: under two minutes, I'm thinking I said, okay, you get

2498
01:56:42,560 --> 01:56:46,440
Speaker 7: score here. Now you go into halftime, get the ball

2499
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:50,760
Speaker 7: to start the third and now potentially you know, we're

2500
01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:52,320
Speaker 7: looking at a tie game or we're looking at a

2501
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:54,280
Speaker 7: three point game, four point game, and now game pressure

2502
01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:56,920
Speaker 7: is back on. And when you got the third and

2503
01:56:57,000 --> 01:57:00,760
Speaker 7: one and the fourth and one, and with Ryley and

2504
01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:05,680
Speaker 7: where is Riley Leonard gifted with his legs, either running

2505
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:09,040
Speaker 7: it purely or just making you know, plays, whether he

2506
01:57:09,120 --> 01:57:10,840
Speaker 7: scrambled and keep a play alive like the first third

2507
01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:12,920
Speaker 7: down conversion. He had to pierce. You know, he rolls

2508
01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:14,520
Speaker 7: out of the left, he all of a sudden keeps

2509
01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:16,400
Speaker 7: a play alive. Then he throws that little dump pass

2510
01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:21,240
Speaker 7: kind of to Pierce. You threw a pocket pass, which

2511
01:57:21,320 --> 01:57:23,680
Speaker 7: is not Ryle Leonard's strength at all to Moiley Cox.

2512
01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:25,720
Speaker 7: Now that sets up fourth and one. Everybody in the

2513
01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:28,120
Speaker 7: world knows Jonathan Taylor's gonna get the ball on fourth

2514
01:57:28,160 --> 01:57:30,080
Speaker 7: and one. After you threw it on third and one, boom,

2515
01:57:30,160 --> 01:57:32,480
Speaker 7: Jacksonville blows it up. To me, that was way too

2516
01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:37,600
Speaker 7: greedy from shane'sagin in that weather. Rookie quarterback first meaningful

2517
01:57:37,640 --> 01:57:41,360
Speaker 7: snaps in the NFL, played his strengths. Or just run

2518
01:57:41,400 --> 01:57:44,320
Speaker 7: it with Taylor on third down and then if you're

2519
01:57:44,360 --> 01:57:47,360
Speaker 7: in a fourth down you run it again or cross

2520
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:50,600
Speaker 7: that bridge when it comes. That's how I would have

2521
01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:52,440
Speaker 7: approached hell Q be sneaky with Leonard.

2522
01:57:53,280 --> 01:57:55,240
Speaker 2: One thing that was interesting, and J. J. Watt talked

2523
01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:57,480
Speaker 2: about this a little bit too, Is there any kind

2524
01:57:57,480 --> 01:57:59,920
Speaker 2: of fear that Look, Riley Leonard does run the ball

2525
01:58:00,040 --> 01:58:02,560
Speaker 2: all well, but if you start to utilize him a

2526
01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:05,680
Speaker 2: lot as a runner and he gets cracked and he

2527
01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:07,120
Speaker 2: gets hurt. Now, what do you do?

2528
01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:07,440
Speaker 19: Well?

2529
01:58:07,480 --> 01:58:07,880
Speaker 7: Who cares?

2530
01:58:08,200 --> 01:58:09,840
Speaker 2: You got to try to win a football game, right,

2531
01:58:09,960 --> 01:58:10,440
Speaker 2: who cares?

2532
01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:13,720
Speaker 7: I mean, we can't be playing with kid gloves. I

2533
01:58:13,760 --> 01:58:15,800
Speaker 7: mean you're on your're in the NFL, go play, You're

2534
01:58:15,840 --> 01:58:18,920
Speaker 7: on your six string or your sixth round pick at quarterback.

2535
01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:21,480
Speaker 7: One thing I also wanted to bring up from the

2536
01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:23,440
Speaker 7: game because I know we got this a lot of

2537
01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:25,960
Speaker 7: this debate last Monday. Remember one of the big discussion

2538
01:58:25,960 --> 01:58:29,040
Speaker 7: points last Monday, Jeff was why does Stiken take the

2539
01:58:29,120 --> 01:58:32,680
Speaker 7: ball to start the game. It was funny as I

2540
01:58:32,800 --> 01:58:37,080
Speaker 7: saw the weather forecast play out Friday, Saturday Sunday, it

2541
01:58:37,240 --> 01:58:39,800
Speaker 7: hit me because all the weather forecast pointed to more rain.

2542
01:58:39,840 --> 01:58:42,720
Speaker 7: As the game moved along, it hit me like, if

2543
01:58:42,760 --> 01:58:45,840
Speaker 7: you win the coin toss, you take the ball. You

2544
01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:49,000
Speaker 7: want the ball when it's the best weather, when you're

2545
01:58:49,120 --> 01:58:52,280
Speaker 7: not dealing with the That was a rare break in

2546
01:58:52,320 --> 01:58:54,920
Speaker 7: the weather for the first conditions. The first quarter was

2547
01:58:55,080 --> 01:58:59,440
Speaker 7: actually rather tame, and sure enough, the Colts win the

2548
01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:02,360
Speaker 7: toss and they defer, And I thought to myself, boy,

2549
01:59:02,520 --> 01:59:04,760
Speaker 7: I get that that's the common thought. But in the

2550
01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:08,120
Speaker 7: weather games, you often see teams like play to the

2551
01:59:08,200 --> 01:59:11,960
Speaker 7: wind in the weather Hey, I want the wind, you know,

2552
01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:14,680
Speaker 7: when a we have the ball if possible, If not,

2553
01:59:15,120 --> 01:59:16,600
Speaker 7: I want to try to get it in the fourth quarter,

2554
01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:18,160
Speaker 7: you know, or something like that, when I know what

2555
01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:20,560
Speaker 7: score and time is and all of that. I actually

2556
01:59:20,600 --> 01:59:23,040
Speaker 7: thought that was a mistake yesterday. Now having said that

2557
01:59:23,320 --> 01:59:25,200
Speaker 7: Daniel Jones threw a pick in the perfect weather, so

2558
01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:27,720
Speaker 7: or I say perfect in the best weather that there

2559
01:59:27,840 --> 01:59:28,440
Speaker 7: was yesterday.

2560
01:59:30,200 --> 01:59:32,840
Speaker 2: Samford Newcastle says, looks like ar next year and maybe

2561
01:59:32,880 --> 01:59:35,120
Speaker 2: the return of Jones the year after. I don't know

2562
01:59:35,160 --> 01:59:37,160
Speaker 2: if it's quite that simple right now, Kevin.

2563
01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:40,120
Speaker 7: Again, all of these questions are fair to be asked.

2564
01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:43,040
Speaker 7: All of them have very difficult answers. I saw someone

2565
01:59:43,160 --> 01:59:46,480
Speaker 7: point out in the text line could Riley Leonard show

2566
01:59:46,520 --> 01:59:48,320
Speaker 7: you anything over the final four weeks of the season

2567
01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:51,080
Speaker 7: that leads to him being in a quarterback competition for

2568
01:59:51,160 --> 01:59:53,720
Speaker 7: next year? You wouldn't just give the keys to him,

2569
01:59:53,720 --> 02:00:00,360
Speaker 7: of course, but would you have a quarterback competition? I just, man,

2570
02:00:00,720 --> 02:00:02,320
Speaker 7: if you're not laughing at some of this, you're going

2571
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Speaker 7: to be crying.

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Speaker 2: Quick time out. We'll finish up strong with a couple

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Speaker 2: more of your thoughts here on the fan text line

2574
02:00:07,720 --> 02:00:10,040
Speaker 2: at two three nine, ten, seventy, get you ready to

2575
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Speaker 2: go for a Monday where at least if you're an

2576
02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:15,080
Speaker 2: Indiana football fan, you can celebrate today and you should

2577
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Speaker 2: be celebrating and lean into that. It's all coming up

2578
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Speaker 2: on ninety three five and they're.

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Speaker 3: At the eighteen yard line where they'll snap it two.

2580
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Speaker 3: It'll be a twenty eight yard field goal.

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Speaker 2: What a great job by that defense and putting a

2582
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Speaker 2: little peer got in this offense not going for it.

2583
02:00:33,320 --> 02:00:35,440
Speaker 2: Here's the snap field and kicks the ball.

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Speaker 14: It is wide, It is wide wide to the left.

2585
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Speaker 7: He missed it.

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Speaker 3: It'll take over the football and they have the leader.

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Speaker 2: At thirteen to ten. Feel good for Don Fisher spoke

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Speaker 2: in his voice and that enthusiasm for every Indiana who's

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Speaker 2: your football fan ever, Kevin, because man, did that moment arrive.

2590
02:01:05,800 --> 02:01:08,240
Speaker 2: And now, as the coach said on the on the

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Speaker 2: on the state, on the the big platform afterwards, he's

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Speaker 2: got two weeks to get these guys hungry and humble again.

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Speaker 2: Three and a half, right, three and a half. Well, yeah,

2594
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Speaker 2: before they get back to work, you know, really get

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Speaker 2: back to preparing for a specific opponent.

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Speaker 7: The year's day, four o'clock. Uh, Fernando Mendoza's high school coach.

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Speaker 7: You're going to join us coming up tomorrow, So we

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02:01:28,760 --> 02:01:31,000
Speaker 7: should have Rick Carlyle and Dave Dunn, who I know

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Speaker 7: is really close with Fernando, and shout out. Anthony Calhoun

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Speaker 7: from WISH is all caught up with Fernando's mom who

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Speaker 7: has MS. Post game there, you know, I know we've

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Speaker 7: talked about the story before on air. Fernando's brother partner

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Speaker 7: from an NIL standpoint, help brate some money for MS

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02:01:50,760 --> 02:01:54,000
Speaker 7: and his brother got to play a play his brother did. Boy,

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Speaker 7: how about that moment? That was scary, too unbelievable. What

2606
02:01:57,120 --> 02:01:59,960
Speaker 7: a hit from Cayden Curry, legal hit from Caiden Caiden

2607
02:02:00,040 --> 02:02:01,960
Speaker 7: Curry the center Grolve product weight though played really well.

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Speaker 2: Took Fernando a moment to get his faculties and name

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02:02:05,080 --> 02:02:06,600
Speaker 2: ranking Cereal number all straight again.

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Speaker 7: You imagine if that injury would have occurred and then

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Speaker 7: coupled with what we just witnessed on Sunday, I think

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Speaker 7: that was the classic.

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Speaker 2: You literally had the wind knocked out of you a

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Speaker 2: kount of mine, wasn't.

2615
02:02:14,160 --> 02:02:15,640
Speaker 7: It a lot of wind? I feel like I was

2616
02:02:15,720 --> 02:02:18,960
Speaker 7: knocked out of him with that hit there, So new

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Speaker 7: year's day, Alabama or Oklahoma for Indiana in that quarterfinal matchup.

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Speaker 7: Oklahoma can't move the football and Alabama's really banged up

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Speaker 7: and has played pretty bad football over the last month.

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Speaker 2: All right, are you ready for the list of free

2621
02:02:36,680 --> 02:02:40,280
Speaker 2: agent quarterbacks on the market next year in the NFL? Kevin, No, geez?

2622
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Speaker 2: You ready for this?

2623
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Speaker 7: Are we really there?

2624
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Speaker 2: Are you ready for this? Daniel Jones, Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson,

2625
02:02:48,480 --> 02:02:52,640
Speaker 2: Marcus Mariota, Zach Wilson, Tyrod Taylor, Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett,

2626
02:02:52,720 --> 02:02:57,040
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo. It's essentially the usual suspects.

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Speaker 7: I'd rather put my oil on my coffee then hear

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Speaker 7: that list.

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Speaker 2: That's the list, guys.

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02:03:06,040 --> 02:03:09,160
Speaker 7: Again, all these questions are now having to be asked,

2631
02:03:10,640 --> 02:03:14,320
Speaker 7: Do you re sign Daniel Jones? Do I like, what

2632
02:03:14,440 --> 02:03:19,680
Speaker 7: does that contract even begin to look like? Yeah? I mean,

2633
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Speaker 7: are you essentially like giving them money to red shirt

2634
02:03:22,480 --> 02:03:24,200
Speaker 7: if you sign them to like a multi year deal?

2635
02:03:24,640 --> 02:03:26,480
Speaker 7: And then does he just get the keys for twenty

2636
02:03:26,520 --> 02:03:27,000
Speaker 7: twenty seven?

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Speaker 2: I don't know you have any better option, though, do you?

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Speaker 7: Right? I mean again, I need more time to process

2639
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:35,720
Speaker 7: at all. Part of me just says, let Anthony Rigdon

2640
02:03:35,840 --> 02:03:38,600
Speaker 7: playing twenty twenty six and see what you have. But

2641
02:03:39,160 --> 02:03:41,680
Speaker 7: you know, blowing the whole thing up might have to

2642
02:03:41,760 --> 02:03:44,640
Speaker 7: be a part of it, which goes against so much

2643
02:03:44,680 --> 02:03:47,880
Speaker 7: of what they've been or what they've tried to do.

2644
02:03:47,960 --> 02:03:50,840
Speaker 7: But if you're going to have as advantageous as a

2645
02:03:50,920 --> 02:03:54,400
Speaker 7: rebuild as possible without two first round picks, I think

2646
02:03:54,440 --> 02:03:57,040
Speaker 7: you have to almost go down that path.

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Speaker 16: Do you think Kevin, You know you talk about Shane

2648
02:04:00,720 --> 02:04:03,200
Speaker 16: styke In and Chris Ballard being tied at the hip?

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02:04:04,200 --> 02:04:07,120
Speaker 16: Do you also think Daniel like it's a three people

2650
02:04:07,280 --> 02:04:09,760
Speaker 16: tied to the hip, Like can you see a world

2651
02:04:09,800 --> 02:04:11,960
Speaker 16: where Chris Ballard and Shane steike In are here? But

2652
02:04:12,280 --> 02:04:15,160
Speaker 16: it's another And I know next year you have no

2653
02:04:15,320 --> 02:04:18,160
Speaker 16: choice if they're here, But then even looking two years

2654
02:04:18,280 --> 02:04:21,880
Speaker 16: down the line, a different quarterback being here, like, I

2655
02:04:21,960 --> 02:04:26,000
Speaker 16: don't see how that's the case. I don't How do

2656
02:04:26,080 --> 02:04:28,200
Speaker 16: you begin to process that is just like three people

2657
02:04:28,280 --> 02:04:28,880
Speaker 16: tied at the hip?

2658
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Speaker 7: Is my question? Yeah, I mean, you know a lot

2659
02:04:30,640 --> 02:04:33,000
Speaker 7: of people would think that way about the pillars. You know,

2660
02:04:33,280 --> 02:04:35,320
Speaker 7: to me, the pillars of the organization are quarterback, head, coach,

2661
02:04:35,360 --> 02:04:37,600
Speaker 7: and GM and they all should be tied together. Yeah,

2662
02:04:37,760 --> 02:04:41,920
Speaker 7: it's it's a fair point to bring up because anytime

2663
02:04:41,960 --> 02:04:44,440
Speaker 7: you bring in a new regime, no one safe, no

2664
02:04:44,560 --> 02:04:47,720
Speaker 7: one safe. That's just the rawity of how these things

2665
02:04:47,800 --> 02:04:53,960
Speaker 7: work in pro sports. So yeah, I just it's amazing

2666
02:04:54,080 --> 02:04:58,440
Speaker 7: how quickly it can unravel for you. Just one month ago,

2667
02:04:58,480 --> 02:05:02,839
Speaker 7: you're the one seed, and here you are, and obviously

2668
02:05:02,960 --> 02:05:05,080
Speaker 7: it was starting to slip that were starting to see

2669
02:05:05,880 --> 02:05:09,680
Speaker 7: you know, even yesterday before the Jones injury, it wasn't

2670
02:05:09,720 --> 02:05:13,680
Speaker 7: going well. But then to have the injury likely take

2671
02:05:13,760 --> 02:05:16,120
Speaker 7: him off the field for the twenty twenty sixth season,

2672
02:05:16,800 --> 02:05:19,640
Speaker 7: that just adds a whole another layer on it. You know,

2673
02:05:19,720 --> 02:05:22,120
Speaker 7: if he would have whatever, if that would have been

2674
02:05:22,120 --> 02:05:24,040
Speaker 7: a strained calf and he would have missed two to

2675
02:05:24,120 --> 02:05:26,680
Speaker 7: three weeks, you know, that's probably a different conversation. I

2676
02:05:26,720 --> 02:05:29,400
Speaker 7: get that some people were still skeptical of Jones even

2677
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Speaker 7: before yesterday.

2678
02:05:33,880 --> 02:05:35,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were still a lot of people that were

2679
02:05:35,160 --> 02:05:41,280
Speaker 2: not completely sold on that. And so again I sound

2680
02:05:41,320 --> 02:05:44,600
Speaker 2: speechless because I think we all are like, what do

2681
02:05:44,680 --> 02:05:48,120
Speaker 2: you do? Like, what do you do? At this point?

2682
02:05:48,200 --> 02:05:50,840
Speaker 2: I don't can No, there's no obvious path, there's no

2683
02:05:51,360 --> 02:05:53,560
Speaker 2: you don't have draft picks to build around. You're not

2684
02:05:53,600 --> 02:05:57,000
Speaker 2: getting any younger at a lot of these positions. Daniel Jones,

2685
02:05:57,040 --> 02:05:58,720
Speaker 2: even if you keep him and going to be available

2686
02:05:58,760 --> 02:06:01,240
Speaker 2: to you for most of, if not all, of next year,

2687
02:06:02,480 --> 02:06:04,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what else you can do except turn

2688
02:06:04,360 --> 02:06:06,680
Speaker 2: it over to Anthony Richardson at this point in time.

2689
02:06:07,160 --> 02:06:08,320
Speaker 2: What are your options?

2690
02:06:08,760 --> 02:06:12,000
Speaker 7: Well, and not that Anthony Richardson has like earned the

2691
02:06:12,200 --> 02:06:15,160
Speaker 7: right to dictate terms, but is there any part of

2692
02:06:15,200 --> 02:06:19,160
Speaker 7: Anthony Richardson's camp that says, I don't want to do this,

2693
02:06:20,200 --> 02:06:22,560
Speaker 7: I need a fresh start. I mean, we do see

2694
02:06:22,600 --> 02:06:27,000
Speaker 7: guys around professional sports try to demand that at all times,

2695
02:06:27,040 --> 02:06:31,320
Speaker 7: and like do the Colts, Does Anthony Richardson deserve another change?

2696
02:06:31,360 --> 02:06:33,240
Speaker 7: Like you know, all these question's not like Anthony Richardson's

2697
02:06:33,240 --> 02:06:36,480
Speaker 7: injury history has gotten any cleaner this season. As sad

2698
02:06:36,520 --> 02:06:40,400
Speaker 7: as that is, so it's just all of it sounds

2699
02:06:40,440 --> 02:06:42,200
Speaker 7: complicated as hell. I mean, this is a season where

2700
02:06:42,240 --> 02:06:45,640
Speaker 7: you've had guys injured and everybody should be an EYU

2701
02:06:45,680 --> 02:06:46,720
Speaker 7: football fan for the next month.

2702
02:06:46,800 --> 02:06:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. The last thing was good about the Colts.

2703
02:06:49,560 --> 02:06:52,600
Speaker 2: This is a season where you've had injuries, multiple game

2704
02:06:52,680 --> 02:06:57,960
Speaker 2: injuries suffered in pregame warm ups or in the locker room,

2705
02:06:59,080 --> 02:07:01,280
Speaker 2: and then you throw the day Daniel Jones thing on

2706
02:07:01,480 --> 02:07:04,280
Speaker 2: top of that. And then right after you trade two

2707
02:07:04,640 --> 02:07:09,000
Speaker 2: first round draft picks for Sauce Gardner, he gets just

2708
02:07:09,120 --> 02:07:11,360
Speaker 2: after a couple of weeks injured for multiple games. I mean,

2709
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Speaker 2: that's been the entire season right now. It's insane to me,

2710
02:07:17,080 --> 02:07:19,320
Speaker 2: just insane to me. That's going to wrap it up

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Speaker 2: for us today. You continue talking about all of this,

2712
02:07:21,480 --> 02:07:24,400
Speaker 2: of course, with the Jay Query coming your way at

2713
02:07:24,520 --> 02:07:27,760
Speaker 2: noon today, then JMV does his thing from three to six,

2714
02:07:27,800 --> 02:07:29,560
Speaker 2: and I'm sure that is going to be a ride

2715
02:07:29,880 --> 02:07:33,160
Speaker 2: of rides today as well. But congratulations to Indiana football.

2716
02:07:33,720 --> 02:07:35,400
Speaker 2: They are on the way to the Rose Bowl. They'll

2717
02:07:35,400 --> 02:07:37,720
Speaker 2: skip the first round of the college football playoffs. They'll

2718
02:07:37,720 --> 02:07:39,920
Speaker 2: be the number one seed. They'll play the winner of

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02:07:40,000 --> 02:07:43,760
Speaker 2: Alabama Oklahoma. Hove yourself a terrific day. Thanks for all

2720
02:07:43,760 --> 02:07:45,720
Speaker 2: the text and phone calls today. We appreciate it. We'll

2721
02:07:45,720 --> 02:07:48,040
Speaker 2: talk to you again tomorrow. JB. You'll be back. Enjoy

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Speaker 2: your Monday