1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:01,040 Speaker 1: I think we're on. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 2: I think you're right. 3 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Oh, Alison just said we're on. This is the debut 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: live program of WIBC from its new studios. 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've taken some pictures, put the new address and 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 3: the GPS to find our way here, and this is it. 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: Can I just have a moment of personal privilege? Of course, 8 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: thank you. You know it's half of your show, so 9 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: you could have said, no, Look, this is a big 10 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: day for WIBC. We're emanating from our new studios. We 11 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: asked that you bear with us because things that are 12 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: going to take time to get into their regular, normal 13 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: working order. 14 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: Here's a learning curve. 15 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: But I will just say, as someone who is in Indiana, 16 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: lifer in Indianapolis, lifeer, a Central Indiana lifer who grew 17 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: up listening and loving WIBC, who this was the place 18 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to work as a kid, it's pretty cool. 19 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: We get to do the first live show in this 20 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: studio and for ever and always, and this will just 21 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: eat at some people in Central Indiana forever and ever, 22 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: the political class, the established. 23 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: People that were wishing for your demise. 24 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: Yeah that Rob Kendall will forever have been the first 25 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: guy heard in the new WIBC studios here in downtown 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis. And by the way, did you see the 27 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: ratings came out? We're number one. 28 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 3: I was going to say, not only are they not 29 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: getting your demise, but number one rated show. 30 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: So you can just bear with us today all sorts 31 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: of grimlins and everything else that we're going to be 32 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: working out probably over the next several days as they 33 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: figure out. You know, they just come in with a hammer, 34 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: start hitting things. 35 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 3: See engineers running around like chickens with their head cut off, 36 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: like trying to help at the last minute. 37 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 2: But here's the thing. 38 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: We came into the new studio and you had already 39 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 3: selected your spot. There's obviously a new setup, a new 40 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 3: table of microphones. And I walked in and you were 41 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: sitting in front of that one, and I said, so 42 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: that's where you're sitting. Huh, And you didn't want right 43 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: next to you. 44 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:02,639 Speaker 1: Oh, we can see us right now on the YouTube. 45 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: By the way, it's finally up. I know they're trying 46 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: to get rid of the By the way, John Herrick 47 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: looks great in the background. You can see me. He's 48 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: like in a box right behind us. Yeah, that's fabulous. 49 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: You can see the new studios. If you head over 50 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: to YouTube, just put WIBC or Kindling Casey into your 51 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: your browser. You can see everything that we're about to do. 52 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: And the great thing about this is Casey, they spent 53 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: all this money on these fabulous new studios and then 54 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: tomorrow we're not even gonna be here. 55 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 3: Alvans Hardware, two quick radios on so they give us 56 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: a day figure it out in a day. 57 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: I'd also like to point out, yes, I am wearing 58 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: a hat. It is the hat that you got me 59 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: earlier this year. I got you that for Christmas. Christmas 60 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: last year hasn't. 61 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: Been that long. 62 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got that for you. 63 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: Ann Hammer. 64 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: That says where was Hogshet because we stilln't know where 65 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: the mayor of Indianapolis was during the riots of twenty. 66 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 3: Twenty so, and we still don't know if he's going 67 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 3: to try and run for a fourth term. 68 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: So again, we're gonna have a fun show today. We 69 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: think all of you for being with us. We'll look 70 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: forward to joining you on the YouTube or the radio 71 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: or the internet stream. And there's so many different ways 72 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: you could listen to the Kindle and Casey program here 73 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: on Double Yes. 74 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: So we appreciate you consuming it. However, you are all right. 75 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: So the big news today as it relates to Indiana 76 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: politics and government coming up at a one thirty, We 77 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: will finally, forever and always, put an end to this 78 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: madness casey, one way or another, there will be a 79 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: Senate vote on redistricting, and we will be done with this. 80 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: Do you think so forever and always? 81 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: Now? 82 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: I heard that if maybe it didn't pass, they could 83 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: come back the end of January and try again. 84 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: Let me let me say this, I am done with 85 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: this forever and always. Now. Look, logistically, I don't even 86 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: know how you do that because the cannon unless they're 87 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: going to come out and preemptively say we're moving the elections, 88 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: which has been done before see COVID when the governor 89 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: at the time, Eric Holcombe, just strolled out there with 90 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: Connie Lawson without any sort of approval of the general 91 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: simply whatsoever, and said I'm moving the election to June. 92 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: And some of us are like, he can't do that 93 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: unless they're planning on doing that again, which maybe they 94 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: will be. M You're pretty much done because the filing 95 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: window I think opens on jams. And you worry the. 96 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: Seven Okay, So they're going to meet today at one 97 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: thirty and this will be the final vote on House 98 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: built ten thirty two. Donald Trump posting last night to 99 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: his truth social saying Rod Bray and his friends won't 100 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: be in politics for long, and I will do everything 101 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 3: within my power to make sure they will not hurt 102 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 3: the Republican Party and our country again. 103 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, this is fascinating because people are trying to 104 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: obviously read into this. Now. I will say that every 105 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: member of the media that I talked to last night offline, 106 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: off the record, won't name anybody, but also people that 107 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: are in the state House. Not one person told me 108 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: thinks that they have heard this is going to pass. 109 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 3: Now. 110 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: Some people were saying, oh, I think it's going to 111 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: be super close. But any person you would say, when 112 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: you'd pin them down, they would say, I don't think 113 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: there are the votes. Now, obviously that doesn't mean that's 114 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: what's going to happen. Anything and everything canon does happen 115 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: in the Indiana State House, so nothing should. It would 116 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: not surprise me in the least if if indeed, at 117 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: the end of the day they came out and said, hey, 118 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: we found the votes, you know, it ends up passing. 119 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: What's very interesting about this, though, is they don't think 120 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: right now there's going to be the full fifty senators 121 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: to be there, right, which alters the course of everything. 122 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: Right, several of the GOP senators they were missing Monday Tuesday, 123 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 3: and you had Jim Bucks, Scott Alexander, and Ryan Mischler 124 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: were absent. 125 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: Scott Alexander just had open heart surgery. 126 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ryan Mischler reported to be in Florida. 127 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: So even if I love that, he was reported to 128 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: be in Florida allegedly he's on the beach. But wait 129 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: a second, he's a state senator getting paid to be 130 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: a state senator. How could he be in Florida. 131 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: Taking a vacation day? And what do you read into. 132 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: That taking of it? Well, I mean you've known for 133 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: what three or four weeks you needed to be back 134 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: here for this, right, what sort of vacation day could 135 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: he actually be taking? So that puts all. 136 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 3: Of the conversation of the Lieutenant Governor cass to a 137 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: tie breaking vote to bed right, because they're not all there, 138 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 3: that can't ask. 139 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: So the way I checked this with multiple sources, and 140 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: multiple sources told me the same thing, And this is 141 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: very odd the way our government is set up. But 142 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: the way it's set up is that they have to 143 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: get in the Senate a majority of the fifty. So 144 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: math tells you either that is twenty five twenty five 145 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: in a tie, the lieutenant governor would cast the tie, 146 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: or if there's not fifty there, then they have to 147 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: get to twenty six because there would be no tie 148 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: vote to be cast. So if they I mean, that's 149 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: very weird, right, And I asked multiple people about this, 150 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: and the India Capitol Chronicle had a big article about 151 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: this as well, and they said the same thing. So 152 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: they really they need everybody to be there or it's 153 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: going to really cause havoc with the way the vote 154 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: is going to go. Now, if somebody interprets that different 155 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: or has different information, I totally welcome that. Rob at 156 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: WIBC dot comment, Robin Kendall on Twitter and the YouTube 157 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: feet as well, you can let us know. But that's 158 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: the way interpret it. So having everybody there is actually 159 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: key to the vote. I just I don't know, And 160 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: I want to come back to that Trump tweet here 161 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: in a little bit, because that is just off the 162 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: church ridiculed. I mean, like, can he not space spaces 163 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: like you mean when Yeah, it's like a and it's 164 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: long like I had. I was looking at it on 165 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: a desktop, Casey, and I had to keep scrolling down 166 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: to get to the bottom. There's no spaces, there's no 167 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: paragraphs like it's just a block of rambling. And why 168 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: don't we take a break. Let's make sure everything's still 169 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: worked here. Our first segment here at the new building 170 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: is in the books. Let's make sure everything worked here. 171 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: We'll take a break, and then we'll talk about this 172 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: truth thos that Donald Trump put out. 173 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: All right, you're listening to Kettle and Casey. It's ninety 174 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 3: three WIBC. 175 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: All right, it is Kettle a Casey. I'm Rob. That's 176 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: Casey coming to you from our new studios in downtown Indianapolis. Again, 177 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: like we said, I know where havings of issues with 178 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: the audio and the YouTube feed. Look, we said all 179 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: we said. I thought we were very clear that there's 180 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: gonna be all sorts of. 181 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 4: Problems today, right we mentioned this. Yeah, So don't you know, 182 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 4: I love the people of YouTube. Didn't anyone test this? Yes, 183 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 4: it's a monumental undertaking. People, You have no idea how 184 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,559 Speaker 4: difficult in the modern era, it is to physically move. 185 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 4: I mean, well, we're moving four radio stations to these 186 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 4: new studios. 187 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 2: More than that, isn't it. 188 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: Well, that's right, that's right. The four of the ones 189 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: they bought with us. For the ones that Urban One 190 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: bought with us, they obviously owned several other radio stations 191 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: before that. So what is it six or seven radio stations? 192 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: Right? 193 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: Half a dozen? And there will be plenty of issues 194 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: throughout the day. Let's all just smile and laugh together, 195 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 1: and we hope any of your inconvenience. By the way, 196 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: the best part about it is, even if it doesn't 197 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: work on Monday, not my problem, because I'm done tomorrow. Casee, 198 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: that's true. That's true. 199 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 3: So you've got the debut broadcast today. Congratulations by the 200 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 3: way that they selected you for that. And then tomorrow 201 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: we're going to be participating in radiothon for the Salvation Army. 202 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: Did I here Matt Bear say it was the thirty 203 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 3: first annual? 204 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: Does that sound right? 205 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: That sounds about I would think that's right. This last 206 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: year was the thirty thirty. 207 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, okay, there we go, and then after that 208 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 3: next week you'll be on vacation. 209 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: Yes, so not my problem anymore. If the YouTube audio 210 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: isn't working on Monday, don't call me. I don't want 211 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: to hear from you people until the first of the year. 212 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 3: You just start a rumor on Monday that things just 213 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 3: didn't work out with you in the new studio. 214 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: We'll see if you're back after the new year. 215 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: My favorite thing is, like people, the internet is just 216 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: the best, and by the best, I mean the worst 217 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: of just everything. Because like I posted this photo, it's hey, 218 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: it's us at our new studio. I said, here's the 219 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: little picture again. We're all everybody's just getting acclimated. There's 220 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: going to be all sorts of things that aren't going 221 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: to work today. We're all just going to smile and 222 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: laugh together, and so you just kind of grin and 223 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: bear it. And by the way, there's it's twenty twenty five, 224 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: and look, I get that we're beautiful to look at. 225 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: There's ninety three other ways you can listen to the program, 226 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: and in the modern era, right if you are as 227 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: some people and I love this. There are people on 228 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: the YouTube chat right now screaming that they can't hear 229 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: the program. And though there's no other way to find 230 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: Kendall and Casey in the modern era. 231 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 3: Try and sync it up with the radio. Watch us 232 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 3: on YouTube, turn on the radio properly. 233 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: So, yes, we're fully aware as and I just like 234 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: my favorite thing is so I post the photo of 235 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: us here at YouTube. We love you guys, thanks for 236 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: making us number one. Blah blah blah. It's gonna be 237 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: a fun day at the new studio. And some person 238 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: gets on there and goes, uh, you guys are in 239 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: a dying medium and you're only moving out of downtown 240 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: because you can't pay the rent. And I just responded, narrator, 241 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: WIBC is in fact still downtown. Like the Internet, the 242 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: Internet is not just a place where miserable, horrible people 243 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: go to feel better about themselves because they do it 244 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: under some sense of anonymity, and they can't stand the 245 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: fact that somebody else has something nice or is in 246 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: the process of doing something nice. So I'll feel better 247 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 1: about myself by trying to make you feel worse. 248 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 249 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 3: So our president was on the internet last night as well, 250 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 3: and he was commenting about the redistricting battle that's taking 251 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 3: place here in Indiana. In fact, the senators they're going 252 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 3: to meet today at one thirty, that's when they're scheduled 253 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 3: to start the vote. 254 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: That's correct. So look, I've got to feel there's going 255 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: to be you know, I highly doubt the vote will 256 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: be at one thirty. I'll be one of those things 257 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: where at two thirty we're still going, right. I don't 258 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: think there's going to run in there and vote and 259 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: be done with it. I think everybody gets an opportunity 260 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: to have their say, say their piece, why they're voting, 261 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: how they're voting. But yes, at some point this afternoon 262 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: we're hopefully going to get some sort of closure on this. Now, 263 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: what will be wild and I posted this yesterday at 264 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: Robin Kendle on Twitter. What will be wild is if 265 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: indeed this thing gets a what do they call it, 266 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: a plurality of votes, because we don't know at this point. 267 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: They're anticipating potentially multiple senators not being there, which means 268 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: they would have to it's totally going to screw up 269 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: the count in terms of the fifty. But what will 270 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: be wild is if they get a plurality, like let's 271 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: just say it's twenty four to twenty three. Let's say 272 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: it's twenty four in favor twenty three a post and 273 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: then it doesn't pass it because there's not a majority 274 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: of the fifty those yes and redistricting people are going 275 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: to go ballistic. 276 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 3: Well, what Jacob Stewart from Indy Starr said yesterday, if 277 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: redistricting fails with the lack of a constitutional majority, it 278 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 3: can be brought up again the next business day in January. 279 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're done right, Like you had the vote, you 280 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: had the opportunity, and they know, and I think they've 281 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: known for a while how this was going to go 282 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: one way or another. And I'm not pretending to know. 283 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: I said the people I talked to yesterday, every single 284 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: member of the media or people that are in that 285 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: state House who and they all said it's going to 286 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: be very close. It's not like, oh, this is going 287 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: to be some blowout one way or another. But they 288 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: all said they don't think the votes are there. I 289 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: would tend to go with that because I kept hearing 290 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: the same thing from all these people. Doesn't mean that 291 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: that you can't change minds overnight. Doesn't mean that's exactly 292 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: how it's going to be. Everybody's just been in their 293 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: own little corners trying to put pieces together based on 294 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: who who they've talked to. And then it brings you 295 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: to this thing that Trump put out last night. And 296 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: I heard multiple members of the media say this, and 297 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: they're spot on. This does not sound like something coming 298 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: from a guy who thinks he has the votes. I mean, 299 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: this is just just I mean, it's ridiculous. And either 300 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: he's getting bad advice or or he doesn't care well, 301 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: because the problem is he's handling this the way the 302 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: Yes feel have handled it from the beginning, and it 303 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: clearly is not working. It's not how you get these 304 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: senators d Yes. It's it's this truth from Trump where 305 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: it's all about him. It's all about threats, It's all 306 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: about the you know what you've done to me. There's 307 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: nothing in there about Indiana. There's nothing about how it 308 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: makes our state better. There's nothing about how it's going 309 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: to make the lives of people better, why that would 310 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: be beneficial to Indiana. It's just all about how he's 311 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: getting screwed and going after some people who are very 312 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: popular in our state. 313 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 3: Well, he said Rod Bray and his friends who won't 314 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 3: be in politics for long. 315 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: Rod Bray is going to be in office until twenty 316 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: twenty eight. 317 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: That's the first problem, right, Rod Bray just won reelection. 318 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: And by the way, he's not wrong the stuff he's 319 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: saying about Rod Bray, the pro tim of the Senate, 320 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: the leader of the Senate. He's not wrong about that. 321 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: But the problem is, where were you, mister President, when 322 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: we've been begging for help with this guy for years? 323 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: Where were you when the people of Indiana or begging 324 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: for help getting the property tax built through that actually 325 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: would have helped people. Rod Bray was the same loser 326 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: then that he is today, and yet not a peep 327 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: from you unless it affects him. 328 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 3: So Donald Trump went on to say, I'll do everything 329 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 3: within my power to make sure that they will not 330 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 3: hurt the Republican Party and our country. 331 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: Again, what is within his power to do? 332 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: There's nothing they're not And this is what the Senators 333 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: have figured out. And it's the same thing. And we 334 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: talked about this yesterday in that piece. There was an 335 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: Indie star that I was a part of where what 336 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: we figured out after the factoring the property tax debacle 337 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: was we made an egregious mistake thinking Mike Bron had 338 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: any sway, thinking that Mike Bron had any poll whatsoever. 339 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: He clearly doesn't. They think he's a goof and a 340 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: joke and they can't stand the guy. And our problem 341 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: was we were listening to him and they were like, 342 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: just have all the people send this stuff, send it 343 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: to us, send it to blah blah blah. And we 344 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: were doing that when you've got to target these senators 345 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: individually in the sense of you got to find, hey, 346 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: who are the movers and shakers in their community, that 347 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: people who have some sort of sway get to them, 348 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: and have them get to these senators to offset in 349 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: the case of property tax as it was your local 350 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: school district, it was these mayors. And we didn't do that, 351 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: and that's why we didn't get a better result. If 352 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: I had it to do over again, knowing what I 353 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: know now learned, Yeah, I should never listen to Bray 354 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: or a Braun, never should have listened to Micah. Those 355 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: guys were completely worthless and I would have done it 356 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: completely different and maybe gotten a better result for people. 357 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 3: When a campaign directly to the House and Senate, Yeah, 358 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 3: that's right. 359 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: So, but Trump is out here with this tweet and 360 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: he's just being completely ridiculous in terms of how he's 361 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: the things he's saying about me. He's going at Mitch 362 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: Daniels for some reason. I like, it's like Midge Daniels 363 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: is still very popular in Indiana and he's very well 364 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: thought of. He's a friend of our show, and he 365 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: was a very popular governor and going after him for 366 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: no reason. He's not an elected officially, he doesn't have 367 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: anything to do with any of this, and I don't 368 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: understand why he's doing that. 369 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 3: Well, it's a lot like the influencers who have been 370 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 3: attacking Pence, blaming all of this on Pence. No, I mean, 371 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 3: that's fine, you can blame whatever you want on Pence. 372 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, pents has no sway on anything anymore. But 373 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: this isn't his doing, yeah, to make him out like 374 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: he's some sort of mafia don or something. I can 375 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: assure you countless people that I've to to over the 376 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: past several months, in both the State House and in 377 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: the media, who are have their ears to this twenty 378 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: four to seven, not one of them has mentioned, Hey, 379 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: Pence is really driving the bus on this. I've never 380 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: heard a single psolitary person say the Pence is in 381 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: charge of anything, call has sway over anything, is influencing 382 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: anyone and these people just sound ridiculous. What this is 383 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: going to come down to is these senators making the 384 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: call on where they think their constituents are at. What 385 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: are they what are they hearing on the ground, What 386 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: do they think the majority of their voters want them 387 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: to do. Where is the passion from those people at 388 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: And that's the call they're going to make. They don't 389 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: fear Trump. Trump's not going to spend ten million dollars 390 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: to get a local state senator unelected in a primary, 391 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: especially not some guy that's out in twenty eight. Trump 392 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: won't even remember this happen once we get to that point, 393 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: and so and and by the way, he's going to 394 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: move on to Florida because they're the next people up. 395 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: Is attention is totally going to go there, not worried 396 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: about anybody. They're the primarying them. Now, there'll be people 397 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: who will primary them, but it's not going to sink 398 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: or swim off of this redistricting vote. And so they're 399 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: just going to do what they think the majority of 400 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: their constituents want the one them to do, what's politically 401 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: expedient for them. Well, let's talk. 402 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 3: About what Greg Good said, the senator from Tara Hate, 403 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 3: who is still undecided. He said that he's had two 404 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 3: calls with Donald Trump about redistricting. The most recent one 405 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 3: happened on Monday, and he. 406 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: Just said, he said, yeah, they were very spirited. 407 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 3: But he never felt threatened or pressured by the White House. 408 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 3: So Greg Good, Stacy Donado, and also Linda Rodgers, they're 409 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 3: three who are still undecided. 410 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 1: And Good said, no, no, just just to Clara. They 411 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: were the three on the Senate Election Committee, which you 412 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 1: voted to move this bill forward. But those three, because 413 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: it was six to three, was the final vote six 414 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: and favor three against those three are right, neew, we're 415 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: going to be the deciders because it entered a three 416 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: to three split. They all kind of said the same thing, 417 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: which is they wanted to move the legislation forward, but 418 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: let everybody have a say. They said, don't count this 419 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 1: as me being a yes. I'm just giving extending a 420 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: courtesy to my fellow senators to have a vote on this. 421 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 3: But Good said he's gonna give it one more night's 422 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 3: sleep and he wants to hear from everybody one last 423 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 3: time and then he'll make his decisions to see. 424 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: That waiting until Yeah, my last minute. See, this is 425 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: my problem with this guy. You gonna flip a coin, 426 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: because I don't have any problem with him saying, look 427 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: something a magnitude of this issue. They probably already where 428 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: the votes are going to go anyway, I don't necessarily 429 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: let me say this, and now I would totally vote 430 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: to kill it, like I don't care, give me all 431 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: the smoke. If it's a bad piece of legislation. I'm 432 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: voting it down in committee because that's my job as 433 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: a committee person. But I see on something of this 434 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: magnitud why somebody might do that. What I have a 435 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: problem with is the doing the me have no idea 436 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: routine when you've had all of this public input, you 437 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: had a town hall, the people were overwhelmingly against it. 438 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: This town hall, you've seen the where the people are 439 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: on this. It's always the same group of people that 440 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: show up at these rallies or these speeches or you know, 441 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: the public testimony. And so how could you not know 442 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: at this point what are you going to hear today 443 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: in the final little debate that you go, well, I 444 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: just didn't know. He don't want to smoke. And I 445 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: think a lot of these senators and some of it 446 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: probably is attributable to the threats or whatever they've been receiving, 447 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: saying Okay, I'm not taking this on my own. We'll 448 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: do it as a block. We're going to vote as 449 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: a group, and you know, we'll vote to how we're 450 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: going to vote, and then we'll go from there. 451 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: Well, you've got Senator Mike Rider. 452 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 3: He said that, you know, he's remained an opponent of 453 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 3: the redistricting, and he said that they've got to resist 454 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 3: the intimidation attempts. And you got to imagine with some 455 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 3: of them, with the threats, that's going to make them 456 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 3: dig their heels in even more. 457 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: Well, and this is what Greg Walker, that was the 458 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: guy that was crying right at the Senate election committees 459 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: or a Republican. Now he's ridiculed. You can't be crying 460 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: as a legislator. We're talking about a redistricting vote. Go 461 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: in there and do your job. But I think he 462 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: alluded to this and Criter who is what is he is? 463 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: He shall be Greenfield. I'm sorry, Yes, thank you. They 464 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: both said this, and they're right. If this passes, after 465 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: the way the threats and stuff have come down, people 466 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: are just going to looking forward. 467 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: Go you have to deal with that the rest of 468 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 2: your political career. 469 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: Oh, if that works, will do that. If I were undecided, 470 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: I would reject it just based on that because of 471 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: the way that a lot of this behavior has gone. 472 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: And we're also saying, outside of the threats that we're 473 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: going to let outside people come in and dictate how 474 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: we do our public policy going forward, because much of 475 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: the Yes movement was from people who don't even live 476 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: in our state, and so you're setting a very bad 477 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: example if you approve this, you're saying this clown behavior 478 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: across the board works. Yeah, And so if I were undecided, 479 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: Now there's some people feel strongly about it just going 480 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: to vote for it, But if I were up in 481 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: the air person, I would reject it based on that 482 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: because you cannot set that principal. 483 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Crider said, it's not been our style in the past, 484 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 3: and I'm hopeful that it's not something. 485 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 2: We deal with in the future. 486 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: All Right, So again, if you're just joining us, it 487 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: is the Kennel and Casey Show, and Robert that's case you. 488 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. But again, to rind everybody, 489 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: we're at our new studios. There's all sorts of grimlins 490 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: and buttons that aren't working and thing and we knew 491 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: that when we came in here today. It's going to 492 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: be a week or two. It's your problem after today, Casey. 493 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: But because I'm out of here, so but we know 494 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: the YouTube is down and all of that stuff like 495 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: that's all going to be happening. Don't freak out. There's 496 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: many other ways you can listen. I'm told the stream 497 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: is working until the radio is working. All a million 498 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: different ways you can find the Kennel and Casey Show 499 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: today if you really want to. Now, some people, Casey, 500 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: this will shock you. Yeah, they just want to cause trouble. 501 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 2: Some people just like to complain. 502 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: They're like producer Allison. They want you to be as 503 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: miserable as she is. 504 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 3: All Right, it is Kennel and Casey. It's ninety three WIBC. 505 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 2: I'm very proud of you. 506 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: What I do. 507 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 2: You're handling this so well? 508 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: Okay, what the move? The new studio, the it's a 509 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: kettle of cases, that's everything about it. Did you think 510 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: I was going to just come here and start throwing things. 511 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 3: I didn't think you were going to throw things, but 512 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 3: I thought maybe your temper would get the better of you. 513 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 2: You. 514 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 3: You sometimes have a difficult time handling change. You know, 515 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 3: there are there are some people you You have admitted 516 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: it on the air multiple times. You like things in 517 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 3: a certain order, and noise, random noises will upset you. 518 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 3: And when equipment doesn't work, it gets to you. And 519 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 3: you're doing very well today. 520 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: Yes, here's the thing. There was an there was an 521 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: expectation that everything was going to be broke today. And 522 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: as long as not broken, just not working, they're like yeah, 523 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: they're like everything is going to be down today, Like 524 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: we're giving this a shot and we're going to see 525 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: how it goes. And as long as there's an expectation 526 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: that people will be like, well they told us that 527 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: was going to happen, then I don't think like I'm 528 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: letting anybody down. 529 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 2: I love the advice that Matt gave us. 530 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: He said, you know what, you guys. 531 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 3: Just need to show up and talk in microphones and 532 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 3: if it doesn't work, you sit there until they figure 533 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 3: it out. 534 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: Like, for example, okay, I've got the YouTube feed up. 535 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: I think it's doing better. Kevin has not hit the 536 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: button to put our camera on, and he'll probably do 537 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: that here as soon as I say that, I like, 538 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: there's a million things going on. I have no expectation 539 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: that things are supposed to work properly, and as such, 540 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. And this is not even my fault. 541 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: I have the OCD, and part of the OCD is 542 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: that you get very specific about where things are and 543 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: how they're supposed to work. Right, But I don't like 544 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: I'm so picky about it yesterday. This is it's a 545 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: horrible affliction that I have, and you know, so I'm 546 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: not crying about that. If I don't cry about the 547 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: horrible affliction of obsessive compulsive disorder, then you you don't 548 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: get to cry about having to vote on something as 549 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: a Senate. Right. I'm sitting there in my house by myself. 550 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: I have a window from when I get home from 551 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: work and then before my kid gets home from daycare, 552 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: and so I'm sitting there by myself, and I hear 553 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: this like little noise and it's like it's really bothering 554 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: me because i don't know where it's coming from, and 555 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm putting my ear up to the wall, I'm putting 556 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: up to the table, and finally I figure out it's 557 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: my laptop that is making this noise, but I have 558 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: to know, like I have to know what it is 559 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: because those that like I hear everything and it will 560 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: bother me. But here I don't have any expectation because 561 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: it's my first time here. 562 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 2: Right, they already told you it's okay. I just roll 563 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 2: with it. 564 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: Once we get entrenched here and I start knowing about 565 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: how things are supposed to sound, because I need things 566 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: to be in the order they're supposed to be it 567 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: and behave in the manner they're supposed to behave. And 568 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: once I get that, then I'll be upset if I 569 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: start getting the weird noises or whatever. 570 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: So if the kinks still aren't getting worked out. 571 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: But luckily for me, I know, I know, I'm gone 572 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: for the next fifteen days, so you'll have to figure 573 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: out what all that's supposed lucky for. 574 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 3: You, lucky for me as well. So some things were 575 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 3: happening in Michigan yesterday. We have to talk about this. 576 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: Yes what this is like one of those stories where 577 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: if somebody had just sat down and told it to you, 578 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: you would be like, oh, that's some sort of made 579 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: for TV movie, Like there's no way what you're describing 580 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: happened yesterday with the University of former University of Michigan 581 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: football coach. Is real, but it's totally real, and like 582 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: you want to look at it and have like you 583 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: just have to be very careful with it because clearly 584 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: now you're dealing with based on the alleged action yesterday, 585 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: not just some scumbag cheater whatever, and we do the 586 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: Michigan jokes about cheating at sports. You're dealing with a 587 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: guy who has got some severe mental instabilities and is 588 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: in a really bad place in his life. Yeah. 589 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 3: So Sharon Moore, he was fired at the University of 590 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 3: Michigan and he was also jailed last night. 591 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: Okay, so let let's reset who this guy is. So 592 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: Sharon Moore, I think he was the offensive coordinator for 593 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: Michigan when Jim Harbaugh was the football coach. Yes, Michigan. 594 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: He served under Harbaugh for six years. 595 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: Yes, so he is Harbaugh's assistant. They win the national championship, 596 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: and then all of these cheating scandals come out about 597 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: Michigan football. They had to coach that was going to 598 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: the games illegally getting the signals. All sorts of stuff 599 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: come out. So Harball because the college football is so 600 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: ridiculous or college athletics. A coach can do all these 601 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: horrible things and then he can just go to the 602 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: pros and there's no penalty whatsoever. So Jim Harbaugh since 603 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: then that the NCAA is coming down on Michigan, which 604 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: they have to some extent. He said, well, I'm going 605 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: to the Chargers, see you later. So Michigan decided to 606 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: replace one known cheater with another and puts this guy, 607 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: Sharon Moore, who's the right hand man to Harball, in 608 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: in place as the head coach. Now, Michigan, like many 609 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: programs do after they win a national championship, they've fallen 610 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: off a bit the last couple of years, still decent, 611 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: but not nearly where they were, And the last two 612 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: seasons with him as the head coach have not gone 613 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: as the previous season did. 614 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 615 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 3: Well, he acted as the head coach twice in twenty 616 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 3: three when Harball was suspended. 617 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: Car Ball also cuts suspended anyway. 618 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, he coached some big wins, including against Penn State, Maryland, 619 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 3: and Ohio State, and he also helped Michigan win their 620 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 3: national championship in twenty three. 621 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: So then it comes out that apparently he is allegedly 622 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: had an affair with one of his staffers, and the 623 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: staffer has been identified on the internet. We're not going 624 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: to name the people. That's neither here or there. But 625 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: he allegedly has this fair affair with the subordinate, essentially 626 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: a staffer, and there's all sorts of other allegations related 627 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: to this. I don't think a lot of those have 628 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: been verified. The university has verified they have fired him 629 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: for that relationship with the staffers, So I feel comfortable 630 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: saying that now there's all sorts of very bad allegations 631 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 1: about what took place around that will wait until all 632 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: that gets confirmed before we talk about it. So the 633 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: university fires him. Yesterday the announcements made that he's been 634 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: fire as the head coach. And then, as you said, 635 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: this guy allegedly just has a complete meltdown where he's 636 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: at his house, he's threatening to kill himself, he leaves. 637 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: He then it appears does he go over to her house? 638 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: Is that right? 639 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 3: Well, it's being reported that he had an argument with 640 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 3: his wife, he threatened to kill himself, and then he 641 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 3: drove to and broke into. 642 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 2: The home of his assistant allegedly. 643 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: Now was that her was that her house. It's just 644 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: saying assistantly they did, they did not clarby whose house 645 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: it was, and then he's doing all sorts of bizarre 646 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: stuff there. He has since been Sharon Moore of the 647 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: former head coach at Michigan, booked. 648 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 3: Into the Washingtonaw County jail at ten eleven minutes after 649 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 3: ten last night. 650 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: Right, so, not only do you have a complete scandal 651 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: in the sense of, hey, it's a coach having an 652 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: affair with an assistant with a subordinate, which has happened before, 653 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: and coach's careers have been derailed for this, so well, 654 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: it's somewhat scandals. It's not like new news. But now 655 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: you take it into this total bizarro tabloid thing where 656 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: he has allegedly complete meltdown and has been apprehended by 657 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: authorities for his behavior. After the announcement that he had 658 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: been let go, the jail records. 659 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 3: Didn't list any charges, bond, or court dates, and the 660 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 3: police have not officially named more but ESPN reported that 661 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 3: he was detained in Selene. 662 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: And then hand it over to the Pittsfield Township Police. 663 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, okay, let's take a break, and again, 664 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: like we said, I know so much, you know what. 665 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 3: And all the Michigan fans right now are saying some 666 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 3: ridiculous stuff like, well, let's just pull up a dump 667 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 3: truck of money to Signetti. 668 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: He'll want to come here, won't. The Indie Star laid 669 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: out what it would cost for Signetti to leave IU 670 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: right now of his own volition. 671 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: What do you remember how much? 672 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: Fifteen mil? Yeah, fifteen mil, according to the Indie Star. 673 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: And again, look, we appreciate every by Barry with us today. 674 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: We've got all sorts of things we're trying to figure 675 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: out here in our new studios. I know the YouTube 676 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: is up and working. There is a bit of an 677 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: echo on there. They said that would happen again. We're 678 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: we're having fun today. This is the test raw, the 679 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: first live show in the new ninety three WIBC studios. 680 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 3: Yes, and you're listening to Kettle and Casey on ninety 681 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 3: three WIBC. 682 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 2: Hey, can we talk about who. 683 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,479 Speaker 1: One of the real heroes is so far of this 684 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: new trip to the studio? 685 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 2: Are you gonna compliment me again? 686 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: You're not so fastin we talk about producer Allison for 687 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: a second, because she's here doing all sorts of stuff 688 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: and she doesn't even have to work for like another 689 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: seven hours, but she's here helping everyone. Kevin, he's barely 690 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: trying at all and it's his regular stip. But producer Alison, 691 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: she's all over it. 692 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. She also doesn't want to 693 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 2: deal with the wrath of Jason Hammer. 694 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: She doesn't get it. Right now, let me explain how 695 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: this works. Now, our producers are in like their own 696 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: room in our new studio. They have like their own 697 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: vault that they're sealed. In our newsroom which is similar 698 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: to the place we were at before. It has its 699 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: own vault. But in the newsroom. Right now, you've got 700 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: our producer Kevin, producer Allison, who mans the Kendall or 701 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: the Hammer Nigel show, and then Carl Tony's producer. Now 702 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: Allison is being the most helpful. Carl's just pointing at people. 703 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's saying anything productive or not. 704 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: He's just pointing, barking orders around to people. And then 705 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: you've got Kevin who's just turning around screaming at people. Quiet. 706 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm trying to do my job. Yeah, and he's like 707 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: he can't hear us. He's not looking at us. There's 708 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: no talkback button working either, which is. 709 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 2: You must feel like that's intentional. 710 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: Well, it's totally insider baseball for most people. But that's 711 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: how the producer, you know, will communicate with the hosts 712 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: so that the public doesn't hear on when are we 713 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: coming back? How much time do you have left in 714 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: the segment. So we'll just wing it, and eventually they'll 715 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: just cut it off, cut us off, and we'll just 716 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: keep talking like a couple of cackling hens over here. 717 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: So I wanted to bring something to your attention. 718 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 3: We talked about this the other day and it is 719 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 3: northern Indiana, but the Saint Joe County Council up there 720 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 3: voted to reject the rezoning for another AI data center. 721 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 3: They had a ten hour long meeting, hundreds of residents 722 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 3: showed up in as and the council they voted it 723 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 3: down seven to two. 724 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: Okay, So this is just until the state gets the 725 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: memo and for some reason, and I think the reason 726 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: is the couple things. One, the addiction to bright shiny objects. 727 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: Our government, all governments have addiction to bright shiny objects 728 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: and ribbon cuttings, and these data centers because of the 729 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: massive value to them because of the size of them, oh, 730 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: a billion dollar investment in our community. I think that's 731 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: part of it. And then I also think the connection 732 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,479 Speaker 1: that a lot of these people who are facilitating these 733 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: data centers being created, that they have two various politicians, 734 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: both at a state level in the community level. Our 735 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: state got all in on these data centers, and they've 736 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: done a horrible job selling what value, if any, they 737 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: bring to the community. Now. A couple of weeks ago, 738 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,719 Speaker 1: I was with my friend Jeremiah Moral. He does this 739 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: great podcast called The boss Hog of Liberty in Henry 740 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: County in Newcastle. They've got one going on out there, 741 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: and the folks out there that are trying to put 742 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: a data center and it's a smaller one. I mean 743 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: it's a big building, but it's a smaller data center. 744 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: They've done a really great job of meeting with members 745 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 1: of the community talking about the commitments that they're making, 746 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: the investment that they're making, additional investment that they're making 747 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: in terms of giving money to various government entities, and 748 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 1: how the payout's going to work, and then the commitments 749 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: they're making and they seem to have and how they're 750 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: dealing with water, the electricity, power, all of that stuff, 751 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: and they seem to be getting more now. It doesn't 752 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: mean ultimately it's going to pass as I mean, I'm 753 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: not saying everybody in the communities for it, but they're 754 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: getting more people in favor of it than some of 755 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: these other places because they've taken a lot longer time. 756 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: It sounds like to lay all of this stuff out 757 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: and make these commitments, and until you get that, and 758 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: until the community can see a tangible benefit to what 759 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,919 Speaker 1: these dystopian looking monstrosities have to offer, you're just going 760 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: to continue to see pushback on them. And who can 761 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: blame anybody? This rests with the state doing a horrible 762 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: job one getting into bed on these things, but explaining 763 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: what the benefit is and the petitioner in this case, 764 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: that's what you would call the person trying to build 765 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 1: the thing, what the petitioner is bringing to the community 766 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 1: in question, and until let's fix it's not gonna change. 767 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 3: So Amy Drake, who is a Saint Joseph County council person, 768 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 3: she tweeted out last night on the cusp of a 769 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 3: twelve billion dollar data center vote, my family was a 770 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 3: victim of a swatting event, and this was a little 771 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 3: different because she said at approximately two am Wednesday morning, 772 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 3: the Department of Child Services came to her home. So 773 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 3: it's another level of swatting, this time not on redistricting 774 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 3: but on a data center. 775 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: Vote. Well, and that's what it comes back to. These 776 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 1: guys got to vote this redistricting thing down today because 777 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: this is now it's just copycat behavior at this point 778 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: where people have seen this and said, well, maybe this works, 779 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: we'll try to do this, and it's ridiculous. But you're right, 780 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: a new layer to this where they're now trying to 781 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: send Department of Child Services to people's homes. And look, 782 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: you're kind of just at a point now where if 783 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: you are a person of some sort of political prominence 784 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: in your community, you almost have to have the conversation 785 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: with your local law enforcement, whether it's the city or 786 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: town police or the county sheriff's office and say, hey, 787 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: here is who I am, here's where I live. You know, 788 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 1: I'm my family is fine. If you get a call 789 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 1: saying otherwise, you know, obviously we want the law enforcement 790 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: to investigate if somebody's alleged to be in danger, but 791 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: please proceed with caution because you know, I'm a known 792 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: entity and this is happening so awful. Well, that's what 793 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: she said. She did. 794 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 3: She said as soon as she learned of it, she 795 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 3: called nine one one, and then she said, immediately I 796 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 3: made contact with the Saint Joseph County Sheriff, Bill Redman 797 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 3: to alert him of the incident. And she went on 798 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 3: to say she expects the Department of Child Services to 799 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,240 Speaker 3: record the event as a false flag. 800 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a horrible thing that people have to endure this, 801 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 1: and whether you agree with their politics or not, whether 802 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: you agree with their votes or not, no person, because 803 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: they're serving in a public life or in this case 804 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 1: in an elected capacity, should have to deal with these 805 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: sorts of things. And unfortunately, now, at least over the 806 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: past several weeks, it has become the norm, which again 807 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 1: I come back to another reason. If you're on the fence, 808 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: I think you've got to reject redistricting because if you don't, 809 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 1: it's going to reward this sort of behavior and you're 810 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: going to start seeing more and more of it happen. 811 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 3: No. We talked about the data centers in space the 812 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 3: other day and Travis Bials, who is a Google exec 813 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 3: and he's working on an orbital data center effort. He 814 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,439 Speaker 3: said it would take ten thousand satellites to recreate the 815 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 3: computer capacity that a GIGWAT data center has. 816 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 2: Can you imagine ten thousand satellites? 817 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: What does that e? 818 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 3: Like? 819 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: Okay, how big is a satellite? I mean we're talking 820 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,399 Speaker 1: like because people to satellite I think like these big 821 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: dishes or whatever, Like is that what it is? Or 822 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,879 Speaker 1: is is there some baby thing that they just send 823 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: up and it's Is it a big as like a 824 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: thumb or something. 825 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 3: I have no idea how big it is, but it 826 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 3: seems like a lot, doesn't it. 827 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: You mean, given your extensive NASA background, you don't know 828 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: the most basic things about how big the satellites are. 829 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: Google that during the break right. 830 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 3: About the Google exact it is kend Ofy Casey. It's 831 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 3: ninety three w IBC