1
00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,520
Speaker 1: And Grand Rising family, and thanks for making us part

2
00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,040
Speaker 1: of an integral part of should say of your morning ritual. Later,

3
00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,760
Speaker 1: chematologist Tony Browner will return to our classroom. Brother Tony

4
00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,479
Speaker 1: will preview his new book, Suppose by the Way's title

5
00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,200
Speaker 1: A Brouder Perspective, My fifty year Journey to Enlightenment. Before

6
00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,400
Speaker 1: Brother Tony, doctor Rossi Mulligan from LA will join us,

7
00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,680
Speaker 1: and momentarily DC activistient Darryl Muhammad will check in. But

8
00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,080
Speaker 1: first let's get to Kevin opening the classroom doors on

9
00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,880
Speaker 1: this Thursday morning, Grand Rising, Kevin Grand.

10
00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,280
Speaker 2: Rising, indeed, Carl Nelson.

11
00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,279
Speaker 3: It's a great Thursday, the eighteenth of December. It's a

12
00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:41,280
Speaker 3: little bit warmer than it's been. So with celebrating that.

13
00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,960
Speaker 3: Somebody asked me earlier this morning, is it cold enough?

14
00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,440
Speaker 3: All I could do was laugh. I mean, look, it

15
00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,560
Speaker 3: was seventeen degrees a couple of days ago.

16
00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,239
Speaker 2: So yeah, let me make.

17
00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,440
Speaker 1: You though, if it's seventeen, can you tell the difference

18
00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,040
Speaker 1: if it drops to fifteen or if it goes to nineteen?

19
00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,440
Speaker 1: Can you can you physically feel a difference?

20
00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:02,920
Speaker 2: These are rhetorical questions.

21
00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,760
Speaker 3: Gone, no, no, sious, everybody, man, man, you can tell

22
00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,920
Speaker 3: the difference between twenty one and twenty man when you're

23
00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,360
Speaker 3: standing waiting for the bus. Yeah, you can tell the

24
00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:18,119
Speaker 3: difference between seventeen and eighteen.

25
00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,959
Speaker 1: You know, and when it's everybody's tolerance level. Yeah, everybody's

26
00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,920
Speaker 1: talent level is different, Kevin, That's what I asked that question.

27
00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,440
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's also the art of layering.

28
00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,360
Speaker 3: You know, it's all in how you layer to see,

29
00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,720
Speaker 3: because in the twenties you don't need as much layering

30
00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,000
Speaker 3: as you do in the teens. But then when the

31
00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,720
Speaker 3: temperature rises by the mid day, you see, then all

32
00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,800
Speaker 3: of a sudden you got to take something off, you know,

33
00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,320
Speaker 3: and carry it around. So that's the ear witness weather

34
00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:52,240
Speaker 3: report right there.

35
00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,640
Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, but how you feeling cap.

36
00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm still learning, Kevin. I'm still learning and I'm going

37
00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,919
Speaker 1: to learn a lot this one with brother Tony Browner,

38
00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,120
Speaker 1: also Dr Rosie and Darryl Muhammad when they join us later. Yeah,

39
00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:06,320
Speaker 1: what's going on in the news.

40
00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,120
Speaker 3: Well, well, I'm glad you asked that question. I came

41
00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,880
Speaker 3: prepared to answer it. Last night. I'm watching the holiday

42
00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,400
Speaker 3: TV programming. You know, there's a concert, there's a cartoon

43
00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:24,200
Speaker 3: on all kinds of stuff. And then, uh, we'll pause

44
00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,440
Speaker 3: this program for this update from President Donald J.

45
00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,360
Speaker 2: Trump. So the screen open, let me set the setting.

46
00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:37,839
Speaker 3: The screen opens, and there he is wrapped in the

47
00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,160
Speaker 3: a couple of Christmas trees, the green garland behind him,

48
00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,800
Speaker 3: and you know, in his classic red tie, and he

49
00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,840
Speaker 3: looked like a Christmas postcard almost.

50
00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:51,560
Speaker 2: For a second.

51
00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:58,360
Speaker 3: And then he began to speak, carl and President Trump spoke,

52
00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,639
Speaker 3: according to CNN's spoke at a faster pace and spoke

53
00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,560
Speaker 3: it seems like, you know, he had a lot on

54
00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,239
Speaker 3: his mind, like he was angry and yelling at Americans.

55
00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,639
Speaker 3: Yet at the same time he's trying to assure Americans

56
00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,160
Speaker 3: that the economy was good. He says, in the eleven

57
00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,320
Speaker 3: years that I mean the eleven months, rather in the

58
00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,600
Speaker 3: eleven months that he's been in the White House, the

59
00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:27,080
Speaker 3: things have changed. The borders have been closed, and no

60
00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:32,480
Speaker 3: immigrants have come across the border, zero coming across the border.

61
00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,280
Speaker 2: Since he closed it.

62
00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,920
Speaker 3: And of course you may know that he eventually got

63
00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:43,280
Speaker 3: around to blaming Joe Biden, blaming the Democrats, blaming you know,

64
00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,600
Speaker 3: it was a big blame game. But at the first

65
00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,440
Speaker 3: the whole speech only lasted about twenty minutes.

66
00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,680
Speaker 2: And so at first he kept speaking of.

67
00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:58,120
Speaker 3: Prices are going down, and you know, the gas is

68
00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,440
Speaker 3: less than two fifty. I don't know where that is,

69
00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,560
Speaker 3: but he said, gases less than to fifty. Grocery prices

70
00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,480
Speaker 3: is down. He brought up he made a reference to

71
00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,560
Speaker 3: an interesting thing, you know, the two hundred and fiftieth

72
00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:19,039
Speaker 3: anniversary for America and the declaration of independence, and he says,

73
00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,839
Speaker 3: in honor of that, he wants to give seventeen hundred

74
00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,120
Speaker 3: and seventy six dollars in dividends to all of the

75
00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:31,120
Speaker 3: military personnel, you know, and he was talking about, you know,

76
00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:36,480
Speaker 3: millions of military personnel. And to me that even if

77
00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,480
Speaker 3: that was possible, isn't that two billion dollars he's talking about,

78
00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,920
Speaker 3: you know, giving out as a dividend.

79
00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,200
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I didn't watch it because I

80
00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,839
Speaker 1: thought he was going to speak longer. But it seems

81
00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,560
Speaker 1: like what she's saying, he's stuck to the script, because

82
00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,920
Speaker 1: usually gets in trouble when he goes off script. That's

83
00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:55,480
Speaker 1: the first thing.

84
00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right, he was locked in to the teleprom

85
00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:00,000
Speaker 2: They probab.

86
00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,880
Speaker 1: He told him, you know, stay on the tail promise,

87
00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,320
Speaker 1: don't veer away because then he says what he really means,

88
00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,440
Speaker 1: and it sounded like he was very angry as far

89
00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,919
Speaker 1: as the money to the serviceman concerned. He can't do

90
00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,799
Speaker 1: as we all know, if we can recall from Civics class,

91
00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,360
Speaker 1: the Congress writes to check. So he can't do that. Well,

92
00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,640
Speaker 1: we never know with Donald Trump. So you know, let's

93
00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,320
Speaker 1: let's put that right there. But I think what he's

94
00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,080
Speaker 1: seeing he is trying to shure up his base and

95
00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,359
Speaker 1: he's losing even in his hardcore base in the military

96
00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,440
Speaker 1: is one of his hardcore bases, and he's losing right there.

97
00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,039
Speaker 1: So he's issuing them a carrot, if you will, is

98
00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,680
Speaker 1: to keep their support, you know. And he usually he

99
00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,840
Speaker 1: talks about writing checks. Where all this money made, all

100
00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,279
Speaker 1: these trillions of dollars, all this from these tariffs. Where

101
00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,080
Speaker 1: did that money go? You know? One time, you remember

102
00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,960
Speaker 1: he was promising all of us we're going to get

103
00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,520
Speaker 1: an IRS refund like we you know, like he stuck

104
00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,040
Speaker 1: his name on the last time he gave up money.

105
00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,279
Speaker 1: But right now there's no talk about that. So where's

106
00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,680
Speaker 1: all this money going? That's my question.

107
00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,800
Speaker 3: It's hard to say. And yet talking about being on teleprompter.

108
00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,800
Speaker 3: You could tell when he went off because as he

109
00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,479
Speaker 3: was talking on teleprompt he was holding for dear life

110
00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,800
Speaker 3: to the podium, it seemed. And yet when he went off,

111
00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:18,279
Speaker 3: that's when he would do his his signature hands motions,

112
00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,479
Speaker 3: you know, the type of thing, and you know, and

113
00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:26,640
Speaker 3: he would say, he was talking about my favorite word, tariffs.

114
00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,640
Speaker 3: Tariff is my favorite word. And he started explaining how

115
00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,720
Speaker 3: the tariffs have helped bring more money into America and

116
00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,720
Speaker 3: bring more companies back because they know that if they

117
00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,960
Speaker 3: have to pay with tariffs, then they're going to be

118
00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:48,040
Speaker 3: Then it'd be better to bring the company back to America.

119
00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,040
Speaker 3: And he's saying he credited himself with having done that.

120
00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,960
Speaker 3: Only he could have done that. And but he said

121
00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:01,360
Speaker 3: during the Democrat administration, he said, they came up with

122
00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:08,039
Speaker 3: the word affordability and he's calling it the unaffordable healthcare back.

123
00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:14,720
Speaker 3: He says the economy with unemployment is climbing to four

124
00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:19,480
Speaker 3: point six percent, and his approval rating has dipped.

125
00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,200
Speaker 2: That's I'm looking at something on USA today. But most

126
00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:24,560
Speaker 2: of his.

127
00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:29,760
Speaker 3: Speech seemed like he's giving us reason to be optimistic.

128
00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,400
Speaker 2: He said, this is just the first year, and it's

129
00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:33,320
Speaker 2: gonna get better.

130
00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,600
Speaker 3: And so the other thing that he was concerned about

131
00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,680
Speaker 3: as he talked about healthcare, the closest to it I

132
00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,560
Speaker 3: could hear was when he was saying that the insurance

133
00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,840
Speaker 3: companies are are charging overcharging.

134
00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,680
Speaker 2: And that they were going to take control of that.

135
00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,280
Speaker 3: Even as he speaks and like said, he blames rights

136
00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:57,040
Speaker 3: for everything else.

137
00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,800
Speaker 1: Did he come up with a with a with a

138
00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,000
Speaker 1: I guess a healthcare planman, Kevin, because you know today

139
00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,040
Speaker 1: I think mostly a longlicker's heading home today for the

140
00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,000
Speaker 1: holidays and they have to come up with a plan

141
00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,200
Speaker 1: or the uh it's going to expire, the credits are

142
00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,800
Speaker 1: going to expire, anabolicare on Friday? Did he or is

143
00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,840
Speaker 1: he still at the concept level because the last time

144
00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,560
Speaker 1: we had this conversation, he said the concept level of

145
00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,760
Speaker 1: a plan. Did he mention anything about that.

146
00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,280
Speaker 3: Nope, he just pretty much said it's it's soon to come.

147
00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,520
Speaker 3: And as I said before, his efforts to lower prices

148
00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,520
Speaker 3: of insurance, you know, uh, he mocked the word affordability

149
00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:42,560
Speaker 3: as if you know, the Democrat the Democratic Party were

150
00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:47,160
Speaker 3: the ones that took affordability out of out of reach.

151
00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,160
Speaker 3: And uh, he says, nobody can believe what's going on,

152
00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,960
Speaker 3: and it's not yet done. And uh, he didn't mention

153
00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,720
Speaker 3: anything about Venezuela or any of that, but he did

154
00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:03,240
Speaker 3: say that he he stopped. He said he stopped eight wars.

155
00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,400
Speaker 3: He has stopped eight wars and it has brought peace.

156
00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:10,679
Speaker 3: And uh, that sounds like him campaigning again for the

157
00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,000
Speaker 3: Nobel Peace Prize.

158
00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,360
Speaker 1: So you said, you say, the whole thing sound like

159
00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:15,280
Speaker 1: a campaign speech.

160
00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:16,120
Speaker 4: It did.

161
00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:21,400
Speaker 3: The whole thing sounds like, you know, not only look

162
00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,319
Speaker 3: out for next year. Next year is going to be better,

163
00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:24,400
Speaker 3: and that kind of speech.

164
00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:25,280
Speaker 2: He said.

165
00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,320
Speaker 3: He pretty much said, only I can do this, only

166
00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,400
Speaker 3: you know, only I know.

167
00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,240
Speaker 2: You didn't even talk about Congress, you see what.

168
00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,479
Speaker 1: I'm saying, or his administration, his administration.

169
00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,280
Speaker 2: He made it sound like you know that.

170
00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,360
Speaker 3: Like I said, he made it sound like it was

171
00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,880
Speaker 3: a campaign speech, because you know, you as the president,

172
00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,880
Speaker 3: you've got to represent both sides, even.

173
00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:49,840
Speaker 2: If you don't agree.

174
00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:55,800
Speaker 3: It seems that it's a unified government in some way,

175
00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,559
Speaker 3: shape or forming. That is, there are democrats, there are

176
00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:03,480
Speaker 3: Republicans that are a part of the future of this country.

177
00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,160
Speaker 3: And if you just stand there and say, uh, it

178
00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,880
Speaker 3: was all the democrats fault, we know that blaming the

179
00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:17,480
Speaker 3: other side doesn't work. It doesn't work from a successful standpoint,

180
00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,760
Speaker 3: or you know, not just from a presidential standpoint. It

181
00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,640
Speaker 3: just doesn't seem to to work. And you see what

182
00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:30,040
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And so everything from military bonuses to UH

183
00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,720
Speaker 3: to talking about what he did as far as the

184
00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:39,440
Speaker 3: borders go and how safe America is, but he'said open

185
00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:47,520
Speaker 3: borders from the Democratic Democratic administrations had put America in trouble.

186
00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,040
Speaker 3: And I'm trying to gather one more point that he

187
00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,280
Speaker 3: had said when he was talking. I think I've covered

188
00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,959
Speaker 3: most of it, and talking about affordability and uh. And

189
00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,880
Speaker 3: he went through the speech so quickly it was like

190
00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,920
Speaker 3: somebody was telling them, you've got to do something. You've

191
00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,000
Speaker 3: got to be somewhere or something.

192
00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,480
Speaker 1: You know, Well, let me just add this, Yeah, let

193
00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,200
Speaker 1: me just have this before we move on. Kevin marrying Adelson.

194
00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,200
Speaker 1: It's one of the richest women in the country. She's

195
00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,600
Speaker 1: already dedicated two hundred and fifty million dollars for Trump's

196
00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,560
Speaker 1: third term in office. So she says, if were you run,

197
00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,360
Speaker 1: I got two hundred fifty million dollars sitting right here,

198
00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:26,840
Speaker 1: and I can get more money for you as well

199
00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,160
Speaker 1: from my friends. So I'm waiting to hear from a

200
00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,240
Speaker 1: response from the White House about that. So far nothing,

201
00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,120
Speaker 1: but she actually told him that. So yeah, that's something

202
00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:38,120
Speaker 1: we've got to keep an eye on.

203
00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:39,600
Speaker 2: Wow.

204
00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:44,880
Speaker 3: Well, a couple of last things, as we talk about

205
00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,720
Speaker 3: the military, the Federal Court says troops can stay in

206
00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:55,199
Speaker 3: DC and hints at prolonged deployment, especially after the incident

207
00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,960
Speaker 3: with the two soldiers from West Virginia. They're more than

208
00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,760
Speaker 3: two thousand troops here in the DC area and from

209
00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:09,640
Speaker 3: at least eleven Republican led states. They brought in more

210
00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:14,000
Speaker 3: since the shooting, and it looks like in today's ruling, well,

211
00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:18,120
Speaker 3: yesterday's ruling, the Jedgers wrote that DC's unique federal status

212
00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,720
Speaker 3: allows Presidential Trump to largely control the deployment of troops

213
00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,600
Speaker 3: in the city. And that was one of the things

214
00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,720
Speaker 3: he mentioned last night too, that crime is down because

215
00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:35,000
Speaker 3: of his forces, he said, and so and so it's

216
00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,840
Speaker 3: that is one of the things. And finally, the Obamas

217
00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,080
Speaker 3: were interviewed on Jimmy Kimmel and they said they were

218
00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,920
Speaker 3: planning on meeting with the Hiners the night that they died,

219
00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,720
Speaker 3: and they were close friends with Rob and Michelle Reiner

220
00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:56,200
Speaker 3: and so Jimmy Kimmel wished them, you know, condolences in

221
00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:01,160
Speaker 3: their loss. So we'll leave it at that. But there's

222
00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,880
Speaker 3: also another person being accused of being involved in that

223
00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,320
Speaker 3: murder other than a Rob Reiner's son, so we'll keep

224
00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:09,880
Speaker 3: watching that.

225
00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,760
Speaker 2: Thanks. That's the way it is. On the eighteenth of December.

226
00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,880
Speaker 1: Girl, all right, thanks Karn fourteen. After a tough there,

227
00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,160
Speaker 1: Salama leggans to my brother Diarrel Muhammad, welcome back to

228
00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,640
Speaker 1: the program.

229
00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,000
Speaker 5: Why let's salam, dear brother, how are you this morning?

230
00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,720
Speaker 1: I'm still learning, brother Diarrel, I'm still learning. But you've

231
00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,200
Speaker 1: been on a crusade to reduce the crime rate in Washington,

232
00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,760
Speaker 1: d C. And that's an uphill task, I take it.

233
00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,120
Speaker 1: But you're still there. Can you tell us give us

234
00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,959
Speaker 1: some backdrop why you started this first, because we always

235
00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,600
Speaker 1: have new listeners and the first time I'm hearing you,

236
00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,080
Speaker 1: so give us a little bit quickly. Thumbnail sketches your

237
00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,600
Speaker 1: background and why you decided that this was your slice

238
00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:49,199
Speaker 1: of the pie.

239
00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:55,000
Speaker 5: Well, first and foremost four years ago in the street

240
00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,360
Speaker 5: every day, I've seen that there was a problem with

241
00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,880
Speaker 5: young people going to school and leaving school. In order

242
00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,439
Speaker 5: to go to school, they got to get past the

243
00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,079
Speaker 5: drug dealers and the addicts and those brothers and sisters

244
00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,040
Speaker 5: that have mental health issues. So I seen that it

245
00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,240
Speaker 5: was a major problem. So I asked the principles and

246
00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,560
Speaker 5: all of the high schools in Washington, DC, can we

247
00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,200
Speaker 5: come in? That was one thing, but are also seeing

248
00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:22,560
Speaker 5: the culture of our young people, which is our future

249
00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,520
Speaker 5: in a dire situation. Meaning when you in the street,

250
00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,800
Speaker 5: like their brother called, you got an opportunity to talk

251
00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,680
Speaker 5: to people, you get an opportunity to deceive people. And

252
00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,720
Speaker 5: me being in the streets six to seven days a week,

253
00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,840
Speaker 5: I'm saying the young people guiding young people. So I

254
00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:44,040
Speaker 5: was sticking it back and flybergasted by the young people

255
00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:49,640
Speaker 5: kicking the young people for their leaders. And I decided

256
00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,560
Speaker 5: to go into high schools and just to try to

257
00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,960
Speaker 5: say a few words from them to them by letting

258
00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:59,080
Speaker 5: them know that there's consequences to your actions. From there,

259
00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,600
Speaker 5: we stayed in those communities. We went in Blue High

260
00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,880
Speaker 5: School Southeast right now we're still stuck on mart Luther

261
00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,480
Speaker 5: King of Malcolm X. We went down Dumbbar, the historical

262
00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:15,160
Speaker 5: Dumbar High School, First Street Northwest, were still on First Street,

263
00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:21,680
Speaker 5: the seventh Street northwest, we went up H. D. Woodson northeast,

264
00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:26,320
Speaker 5: we still over linked Heights Stay Terrace. So we still

265
00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:32,160
Speaker 5: stuck in those neighborhoods only because there's a direlicting duty

266
00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,120
Speaker 5: in terms of us in Washington DC. I don't know

267
00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,840
Speaker 5: what's really transponing unless I travel sometimes, but there's a

268
00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,880
Speaker 5: lack of leadership in Washington, d C. In that lack

269
00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:46,640
Speaker 5: of leadership. You see it with Marray Bowser, She's getting

270
00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,040
Speaker 5: out of here. You see it with the police chief

271
00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,840
Speaker 5: Palmer Smith, she getting out of here. And as I

272
00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,680
Speaker 5: was listening to brother talking about the interview or what

273
00:15:55,880 --> 00:16:00,160
Speaker 5: Donald Trump said last night, our issue was really not them.

274
00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,800
Speaker 5: Our issues. We have to get our stuff together because

275
00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,720
Speaker 5: it's going to take us to get us out of

276
00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,440
Speaker 5: this situation. Man. The beautiful thing about it, when I

277
00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:15,960
Speaker 5: say the lack of leadership, you have bubble leaders in

278
00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:20,960
Speaker 5: Washington DC, meaning they leaders in their church, they leader

279
00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,960
Speaker 5: us in their moms, they lead us in their bubbles,

280
00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,720
Speaker 5: and just like a bubble, those that's.

281
00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,160
Speaker 4: In that right there.

282
00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Brother Diariel, hold on, We're gonna step aside

283
00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,000
Speaker 1: a few mints. We come back I'll let you pick

284
00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,080
Speaker 1: up your thought and tell us again. Family, just waking

285
00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,720
Speaker 1: up with us. I guess is our brother Diarrel Mohammad.

286
00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,440
Speaker 1: He's an activist in Washington, DC and he's been fighting

287
00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,160
Speaker 1: to curb the crime rate in the district. You want

288
00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,360
Speaker 1: to join this conversation with him, reach out to us

289
00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,880
Speaker 1: at eight hundred and four five zero seventy eight seventy

290
00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,200
Speaker 1: six and I'll take your phone calls next and grind

291
00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,080
Speaker 1: rising family in thanks for waking up with us on

292
00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,200
Speaker 1: this Thursday morning. I guess there's a brother Dyrel Mohammad

293
00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,680
Speaker 1: from Washington, DC and it's stayed on the task of

294
00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,160
Speaker 1: trying to do something about crime in the district. So

295
00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,960
Speaker 1: brother Diariel, I'll mass you finish your thought.

296
00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,879
Speaker 5: Yes, what I was getting into remember called the Leana

297
00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:13,200
Speaker 5: Moore Miners of Louis farre Kahn in two thousand twenty three,

298
00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,280
Speaker 5: Save his day. The minister address the nation and he

299
00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,240
Speaker 5: told us that we was at war. And as I continue,

300
00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,159
Speaker 5: I'm going into the three years after he said that,

301
00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,439
Speaker 5: I'm looking and I'm saying, Okay, where are we at?

302
00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,960
Speaker 5: Because at the end of the day, I see that

303
00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,560
Speaker 5: we're getting distracted from how dude, the responsibility which is

304
00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,800
Speaker 5: saving our people now. And I left off on leaders

305
00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,879
Speaker 5: of buildings and bubble leaders. The reason I left off

306
00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:46,000
Speaker 5: on bubble leaders and leaders of buildings because they have

307
00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,400
Speaker 5: made their right there.

308
00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:53,479
Speaker 1: For a second, brother, when you say bubble leaders, who

309
00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,720
Speaker 1: are what is a bubble leader? How do you find

310
00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:56,320
Speaker 1: a bubble leader?

311
00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:01,119
Speaker 5: A leader is a bubble leader is a person in

312
00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,240
Speaker 5: that church. It won't come out of that church a bubble.

313
00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,520
Speaker 5: Then they major church a bubble. A bubble leader is

314
00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,359
Speaker 5: a person that's in the mass, that be a leader

315
00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,800
Speaker 5: of the mass, but their moss is a bubble. And

316
00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,920
Speaker 5: I'm glad that you asked me that question because I'm

317
00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:23,880
Speaker 5: ready to go into the crooks in the gist of

318
00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:28,080
Speaker 5: what the problem it is with us. We had to

319
00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,800
Speaker 5: do the responsibility to our people, to whom much as giving,

320
00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:36,000
Speaker 5: much as required. Caul, I'm in Washington, DC every day.

321
00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,240
Speaker 5: I was in a major car accident September twenty eighth.

322
00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,040
Speaker 5: I'm still recovering, but I'm still out there six days

323
00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:47,119
Speaker 5: a week. I'm talking about it's so cold out there,

324
00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,000
Speaker 5: and there's the second in my back and my neck,

325
00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,200
Speaker 5: but I'm still there. I had a Zoom meeting last

326
00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,520
Speaker 5: Saturday about this program that's coming up this Saturday. I

327
00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,960
Speaker 5: never stopped the killing in the heart of Washington, DC.

328
00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:06,760
Speaker 5: The major cluds that will be there this Saturday. Simple

329
00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,960
Speaker 5: city that's been killing for years, Congress Park that been

330
00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,080
Speaker 5: killing for years. Martin, Luther King, and Malcolm X said

331
00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,800
Speaker 5: nobody can get a handle of We got the three

332
00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,359
Speaker 5: leaders that come together that say, come on this, stop

333
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,280
Speaker 5: this killing. Because our keeper is being squeezed in Washington, DC.

334
00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,840
Speaker 5: One point one billion dollars was abstracted up out of

335
00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,320
Speaker 5: the economy. Now with these people are doing, they making

336
00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,720
Speaker 5: our leaders in Washington DC, our keeper turn on the leaders.

337
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,280
Speaker 5: So if they making our people turn on the leaders

338
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:44,160
Speaker 5: is affecting Medicaid, Medicare and affecting mental health SNAP programs,

339
00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 5: and the fever pitch amongst our keepers is at are

340
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,919
Speaker 5: all times high. If you are out there in the street,

341
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 5: you see it, you feel it. But every problem has

342
00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:01,359
Speaker 5: a solution because this is the product of problems. And

343
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,680
Speaker 5: when they're wherever there's a problem, here is the business.

344
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,000
Speaker 5: So it couldn't be that Jesus at twelve years are

345
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,320
Speaker 5: they aged to say, let me be a by my

346
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,200
Speaker 5: father's business. So when I say bubble leaders, say we

347
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,399
Speaker 5: leaders in these bubbles, which is the Moss Church and organizations,

348
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 5: and you got thirteen thousand non classic organizations in Washington,

349
00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 5: DC and our keeper suffering the way that our keepers suffering.

350
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 5: Because I always mentioned the financial missionaries. I mentioned that

351
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 5: for a reason because now we are hustling the death

352
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 5: of our people. We keep talking about the Lehannasaurs and troubladytes,

353
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:43,399
Speaker 5: so we have become enemies to our own people. Just

354
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 5: when I come on your show, I'm speaking about the reality.

355
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 5: I understand. These people got to do their responsibility. They're

356
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,440
Speaker 5: not going to let us go. We sh got to

357
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:58,679
Speaker 5: force our way away from these people, just like Moss

358
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:03,160
Speaker 5: is going to feral negotiating, telling Pharaoh, okay, God told

359
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,119
Speaker 5: me let my people go, but give me some of

360
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,439
Speaker 5: them grants. That's what the hell is going on. When

361
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,440
Speaker 5: I talk about double leaders of the car, they tied

362
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 5: into the government of the United States and adjusted the

363
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 5: topment in Washington, DC. So when you hear me talk,

364
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 5: I'm talking not from passion. I'm talking about the culture

365
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 5: of perception amongst the leadership in Washington, d C. So

366
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 5: it's a reason why the police chief is leaving. She

367
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 5: being pressured to leave is a reason that merrile Bald

368
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 5: that she can run again. She's not trying to deal

369
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 5: with this crazy man. And as the Honorable Minister Lewis

370
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 5: Farr Khm remains silent for a reason. Brother, and this

371
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 5: is why behind guidance to get through this map tall

372
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 5: silence can be a weapon.

373
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 1: And yeah, let's get to the point, the brother Daryl,

374
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: I understand what the other folks are doing. What can

375
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 1: we do? How can we help you? Because they can

376
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 1: do their thing, we can't. We can't, you know, we

377
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 1: can't change their minds and thoughts and in the passion

378
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 1: what they doing and why they doing the things. But

379
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 1: how can we help our people? That's where I'm going

380
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: with you. How can we help our people who were

381
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: out there doing what they shouldn't be doing and trying

382
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 1: to get them on the straight and now how can

383
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:15,919
Speaker 1: we do that?

384
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 4: Okay?

385
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 5: I had a ZWN meeting with all the churchy from

386
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 5: Ward seven and Ward eight and it was a sister

387
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 5: reverend missus pat Fears. She had a church on Colorada

388
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 5: Avenue northwest. Me and her have been working for the

389
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 5: last three years that She's amazed. She said, I've never

390
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 5: seen nobody like you as a Musslim that's able to

391
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 5: go in these churches, and you still in this neighborhood.

392
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 5: She met me because I was in her neighborhood late

393
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,439
Speaker 5: at night dealing with them killers. One of her church

394
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 5: members told her about me. I met her two years

395
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 5: ago to partner. I do everything that I can possibly

396
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 5: do to help our people. Now, I told her the

397
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 5: same thing. Need resources. Do you have money? If you

398
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 5: have money, our people need housing. See if we need resources,

399
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 5: that's all. You don't want to let go the resources

400
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 5: because we want to live like Cayrol. And this is

401
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 5: why mergencies had to pray to God to take Pharaoh's

402
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 5: richest gun. And we're not talking about leaders, I'm talking

403
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 5: about all of it. This is how we can help

404
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 5: help your people. Now, here's a reverend pastor, brilliant sister

405
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 5: Karen Carrie. They have a church down the street from

406
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 5: Donald Trump for sixteen percent of the avenue. She got

407
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 5: a marvelish church on Pennsylvania Avenue. And Miss Fears was

408
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 5: having a conversation with her, telling them, look, this brother

409
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 5: been on this campaign for our people. He's coming ward

410
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 5: seven he's coming in Ward eights. Carrie said, well, I

411
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 5: haven't heard about him, and Miss Fears humbly told her, okay,

412
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,919
Speaker 5: because you don't go in the street, you would know

413
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 5: that he's right down the street from you if you

414
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 5: come out of the church. I did. I'll had a

415
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 5: zoom with the Ward seven and eight whole clergy for

416
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 5: two hours. They was kicking them back at flabbergasta about

417
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 5: the work that we have been doing. Call they asked

418
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 5: me at the end of the zone book that they do.

419
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 5: I say, some of that money that you have in

420
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 5: the church the people, it's not coming to your church.

421
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 5: You have the refunds these out of the church, come

422
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 5: out of the church and serve your people. I'm right there,

423
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 5: right where there. I'm right there, and I'm really really

424
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 5: climbed out to those that has those funds. I met

425
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 5: a brother that's running for Miss Eleanor Holmes seat in Congress.

426
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 5: I met the brother three days ago. He heard about

427
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 5: the stop the killing see him you crisis management. So

428
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 5: when we met him, I had Brother Kamal I leave

429
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 5: with me. I'll always keep a witness with me because

430
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 5: when you hear me talking about these government informants stew

431
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 5: pictures and rants. That's real for us, and I get

432
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 5: to that in a minute. I had him with me.

433
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 5: The brother asked me one question, how can I help you?

434
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 5: I say, brother, the brother ancestors in need resources. He

435
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 5: was telling me about the development in Barry Farms, that

436
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 5: they allowed Barry Farms residents to move to Maryland. It

437
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 5: is a great possibility. Even though they can come back,

438
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 5: they will never be able to afford those new development

439
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 5: in townhouses in Berry Farms. He gave me that. He

440
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 5: told me he greatly open up a credit do it.

441
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 5: And after he said how can I help you? I

442
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 5: told him I'm not a ward and another positive I'm

443
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 5: telling them that. I looked them dead in his eyes

444
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 5: because whatever your motive is for one to meet me,

445
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 5: I didn't want to meet him. I set the record straight.

446
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 5: I'm not one of those. I love our people. It's

447
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 5: people over money for me. So there was a breezier

448
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 5: question that you asked me. Called all we have to

449
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 5: do because that money is a God's brother, and God

450
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 5: we trust that dollar. It's so powerful that we're not

451
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,239
Speaker 5: going to let it go. Now, how do you know?

452
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 5: Because we have to be careful of the love of money,

453
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 5: because the love of money was so strong and Judas

454
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 5: that he negotiated the sale of jeep. That's what's going

455
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 5: on in Washington, DC. So you're talking about people here

456
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 5: with the people, our people dying out there, our people starving.

457
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 5: And that's one of the reasons being a woman of

458
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 5: the Little Ferretson is sounded because we have to study

459
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 5: this thing. Brother, when I mean to study this thing.

460
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 5: It came out to me yesterday that we got a

461
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 5: new police chief that's coming and I say, wow, this

462
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 5: is amazing. Mister Jeffrey Carls, he's the new interim police chief.

463
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 5: How did he get that spot so fast? Because the

464
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 5: House Oversight Committee, they said, this sister family Smith. She

465
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 5: pressured senior commands to manipulate the crime data and fostered

466
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 5: a culture of repaliation. This is war, brother, So they

467
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 5: got their man in me say, I'm on Martin Luther,

468
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 5: King of Malcolm Xican. I'm traveling all throughout the city

469
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 5: every day. I'm watching those same people that we talked

470
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 5: about when he deployed them into this city. I'm watching

471
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 5: them knock these little feathers off their mortgage. I'm watching

472
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 5: them instigating these little brothers defire on them, so it's

473
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 5: justified killing them. We are at war and these other

474
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 5: leaders in the church, in the mosque, in these organizations,

475
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 5: it's scared to death. And this is why I speak

476
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 5: sprou It every time I get off the show is

477
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 5: an uproar and watching it in DC. But you hear

478
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 5: what he said. They claiming it because they're guilty. And

479
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 5: this is why Pop I explain it that way. It

480
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 5: don't make me no dismiss I'm gonna stay here. Of

481
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 5: course it's it's dangerous, but I'm gonna stay here to

482
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 5: do allows wheel because end of the day, I love

483
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 5: our people, but love is fluity, So keeps it gulable,

484
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 5: Minister Lewis can So the thing for me when you're

485
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 5: talking about what til we do, we're not gonna give

486
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 5: up that money. So now if they're cutting all the

487
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 5: government programs, it's safetiness for our people. Our people is

488
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 5: greaty turn brother, they stop. The crime is gonna go up.

489
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 5: They're going in these safe ways because the first law

490
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 5: of nature is self preservation. They got to eat, brother.

491
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 5: See the staff is gonna go up, the robbery is

492
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 5: going to go up now, and they got their man

493
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 5: in that position. So when I say the lack of leadership,

494
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 5: that's what it is.

495
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: Let me jump you here. You know, we talk about

496
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: crime and what's going on in our community, and it's

497
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: something that we got to address obviously, because the other

498
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: folks don't care as long as we're killing each other,

499
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: we're doing their work for them. We need to find

500
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: out why. We need to get to the root of

501
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: the problem. You know, and as you're talking about finding

502
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: money to help in all this kind of stuff, but

503
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: we need to find why these young people do the

504
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: things that they do. This this self hate, it's manifested

505
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: in self hate. Why they keep doing that? We need

506
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: to we need to start at the route, not at

507
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: not at the branch. So we need to figure out

508
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: a way. I know you speak with these young folks

509
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: all the time, especially, been into a lot of the

510
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: schools in the district, and what are they telling you?

511
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: Why did they why they hating on each other's what's

512
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: the answer? And because once you can answer that question,

513
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: we've already halfway got to the solution. So what are

514
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: they telling you why they do the things they do?

515
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 5: Well, there's no leadership. Once again, because I heard the

516
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 5: Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan. If a home is not the

517
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 5: number one influence on our youth, leave this school, need

518
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 5: this church, need this parents, he said, the number one

519
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 5: influence on our young people as young people. Once again,

520
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 5: I'm out there, I see it. So if that's the case,

521
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 5: then what happened to leadership? That means that the leadership

522
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 5: is disconnected from the youth. You see, and this is

523
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 5: the key. We just disconnected. So we disconnected from the youth.

524
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 5: That means that we did not securing our future. So

525
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 5: the youth don't want to listen to the elders because

526
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 5: they when I am, even when they talk to me,

527
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 5: they feel as though nobody is listening to them. Nobody

528
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 5: understands or want to understand. You got to go out

529
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 5: in the street. That's why we are forced to go

530
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 5: out in the street and engage with them. Because when

531
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 5: you go out every day and engage with your people,

532
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 5: then out of that engagement become a trust. Out of

533
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 5: that trust become a bond. They're not listening to anybody.

534
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 5: It's hard call, it ain't easy because when you go

535
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 5: on those blocks, if the people that you know is

536
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 5: not there, the first thing they see a new face.

537
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 5: Oh he's the police. That's the first thing they gonna say,

538
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 5: because they committing crimes, even our young people twelve thirteen

539
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 5: to fourteen. I'm watching them with them calicos and them

540
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 5: salt rifles, and I'm standing to myself, where the head

541
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 5: you getting them from?

542
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 6: First of all?

543
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 5: Whereas you're getting the money to get it. Say so

544
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 5: now if you want to deal with that aspect of

545
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,959
Speaker 5: our young keeper, because it's not all of them, but

546
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 5: the young majority in these neighborhoods. And then it's being

547
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 5: glorified all in the wrap, is being glorified all on television.

548
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 5: This phone is extremely dangerous because we are copycat young people.

549
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 5: Now they see somebody doing something, then they gonna start

550
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 5: doing it. It's hip. Now nobody want to speak to

551
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 5: it because we are scared of them. We're scared of them.

552
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 5: We're dealing with What.

553
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: Are you saying, We're scared of our young people?

554
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, we're dealing with the nation to kill us.

555
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 5: Anytime you watch and read the news, because you do

556
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 5: you are learnt man. And you see tleven thirteen years

557
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 5: old walking up the grown people and even young people

558
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 5: up throwing their brains. Something is wrong. That means that

559
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 5: that young person is psychologically mentally dead in order for

560
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 5: you to take a life. And we understand that the brain,

561
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 5: don't order mind, don't understand the consequences of his accidents.

562
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 5: Though it reaches twenty five years of age, they don't

563
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 5: know what the hell that doing. The mind is still

564
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 5: being formulated. But you got the spirit of a killer.

565
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: Hold authorry the diary because we got to check the

566
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: news coming up next. But let me ask you this, though,

567
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: is the is the ad because we're looking for solutions,

568
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: Here is the answer. Jobs these young people are telling

569
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: you what they do, the things they do to get money.

570
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: Is it lack of education? Is it a combination. I'm

571
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: trying to find a solution. I'm trying, you know, because

572
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: we could talk about what they do and all of that,

573
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: but why they do the things they do? This self

574
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: hate basically because they don't know who they are. You know,

575
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: astro Quatio was just saying, no thyself and says many

576
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: of our problems. If our people knew who they were,

577
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: who our ancestors were, they wouldn't they wouldn't even say

578
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: anything bad about another black person, let alone something physical.

579
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: So I'm just trying to get to the rude of

580
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: problem again why they do the things they do. And

581
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: I'll let you share that with us when we get

582
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: back from the news. Family, you two can get in

583
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: on this conversation. Brother Diarreyel Muhammad reach out to us

584
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six

585
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: and we'll take your phone calls after news, traffic and weather.

586
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: That's next, and grant rising family, and thanks for waking

587
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: up with us on this third morning. And I guess

588
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: is brother Darryl Muhammad, Brother Darrell muhammads being on the

589
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: crusade for years now trying to stop the crime rate

590
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: or reduce the crime rate in Washington, DC, using different

591
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: tactics to especially with our young people. That's the thirst

592
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: of his endeavor. Before we go back to him, let

593
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: me just remind you come up later this morning. You're

594
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: gonna hear from a chematologist, brother Tony Browner. Brother Tony's

595
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: got a new book he's going to preview for us. Also,

596
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna hear from doctor Rosie Milligan. She's an author, publisher.

597
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: A lot of the things that the brother Diarreyell's talking about.

598
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: She's going to talk about that as well. And Tomorrow's Friday,

599
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna give you on a chance to free mind

600
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: all that means us to think for yourself and join

601
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: us for our open Phone Friday program again promptly six

602
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: a m. Eastern time right here in Baltimore on ten

603
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: ten WLB and also in the DMV on fourteen fifty WL.

604
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: All right, brother dyrel Before we left, and I got

605
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: a tweet from out of town has a question for you.

606
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: But my question she was about, which you know, we're

607
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: all about solutions here because we can talk every day,

608
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: but the problems are, the problems are, and they like

609
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: that because all we're doing is just you know, exercising

610
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: our gums. Let's figure out what can we do. What

611
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: are some of the issues. Is it unemployment, why some

612
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: of the are young people are misguided and doing things

613
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: they shouldn't do, or because is it self hate? What

614
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: do you see?

615
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 5: I say all three of them, and a cocktail of

616
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 5: other things. I'm in Washington, DC, naturally, and you hear me.

617
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 5: I say certain things for a reason. When I say

618
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 5: financial mercenaries, see I can tell you almost three to

619
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 5: four hundred million dollars was wasted in Washington, DC that

620
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 5: should have been giving to these young people. See, I'm

621
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 5: around whether these people that's hustling them. I'm an enemy

622
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 5: to these people. Man, I'm an enemy to them because

623
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 5: I'm busting up a culture in Washington, d C. That's

624
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,479
Speaker 5: beating like this. I know at least forty years now.

625
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 5: I'm talking to people that comes to median secrecy. They say, this, man,

626
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 5: start in trouble. Of course, I'm starting trouble because I

627
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 5: love our people. So you're standing to be fort these

628
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 5: in front of these young people. Ask if you leaders,

629
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 5: and you're trying to help them, but more so you

630
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 5: can your bills, mind your houses and so forth and

631
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 5: so on. The biggest thing they transpire for me when

632
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 5: that the majority of that grant money was taken away.

633
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 5: The majority of those people that was getting them was

634
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 5: coming to me asking me for jobs. And I'm saying

635
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 5: to myself, I told John, stopped playing with our people

636
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 5: because they give him them the money's called the money

637
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 5: is really not the issue like that. The federal money

638
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 5: was being a lot of kidd The reason that they

639
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 5: took those millions of dollars bro it is because they

640
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,479
Speaker 5: couldn't match it with the data the solution to why

641
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 5: it was giving them the money. So the people found

642
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 5: out I.

643
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: Want to get off about don't want to get you

644
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: off the tangent you know about what's got the money

645
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: and all of this. Take it to this, get down

646
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: to the nitty gritty. Our people hurting each other, and

647
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: you think the money is the solution. How do we

648
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: reach those people with the money.

649
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 5: What I'm saying, Paul, there's a cocktail. For every action,

650
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 5: there's the opposite reaction. That's life. So if you come

651
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 5: in to me and I'm saying you can trust me,

652
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 5: and then you find out in my trusting you that

653
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 5: you portrayed me, that's what I hear. That's what I see.

654
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 5: That's why a lot of this let me again.

655
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: Because the money thing is control. That's control. If you

656
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: think the money's going to solve the problem, that's controlled.

657
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: We need to have control of our own neighborhoods. We

658
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: need to be the ones who can make make the difference.

659
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: We have to find out why these young people are

660
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: doing the things they do and then attack it. I

661
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: don't say the money or say jobs. I keep here

662
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: on your keep going back about this money's misspent and

663
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,479
Speaker 1: misappropriation of the money. That doesn't matter because that wasn't

664
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: there with the problem is still be there. So let's

665
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: deal with the problem. Dire el. I want you to

666
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: get to the problem. You speak to these young people.

667
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: Why are they telling you whether they do the things

668
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: they do? They're not telling you because we didn't get

669
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: a great trust. We don't know about the.

670
00:36:54,920 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 5: Grand They don't trust us just in front of them.

671
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 5: That's the root of it. So then if I don't

672
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 5: trust you and you adult and I'm adolescent, juvenile, then

673
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 5: I'm gonna try to figure it out and I'm gonna

674
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 5: do what I need to do survival mode. Just the

675
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 5: reality of it just ain't complex, just ain't talkplex at all.

676
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get some money, ever I can't get it,

677
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 5: and this is okay.

678
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: We're getting somewhere now.

679
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 4: So what do they need?

680
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: How do we need? What? What do they need to

681
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: get that money? Are they do they need job training?

682
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 1: Do they need more education? Then you know that's where

683
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm at. Who's got who's what grant? Because they don't

684
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: know about grants and who's got who got money? See me?

685
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 1: Shit with Black Lives Matter, and they ripped off black

686
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: Lives Matter, Grassroots and all the stuff they do. But

687
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: the people of grass rights Matter, Grassroots are still helping

688
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: our people. So it's not so much about the money.

689
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: Who's getting money and who's not getting money, who's getting paid.

690
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: That's not the issue because the people on the streets

691
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: don't know that, and they really don't care. We have

692
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: to figure out they go ahead.

693
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 5: There's so much information that you can go on this

694
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 5: phone and you can google. It's so much. I'm learning,

695
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 5: like you said, a student, I'm learning and the things

696
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 5: that they're telling me, I have to go back and

697
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 5: even fact check it myself. So it's not a comp

698
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 5: it's not as money is the issue of all our problems.

699
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 5: That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is the

700
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 5: situation is so direcau when you do talk to them,

701
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 5: the majority of them, it's starting, I don't have an opportunity,

702
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 5: there's no mother, there's no father. I have to do

703
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 5: what I have to do to survive. So it's not

704
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 5: like it's one size fit all when it comes to

705
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 5: our young people. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying,

706
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 5: what I'm hearing from them, This is the reason that

707
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 5: I'm a uh connect to the majority of resources. I

708
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 5: don't have them once again, but I know where they

709
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 5: are and we have a team that sometimes we take

710
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 5: them to those buildings because they're not going to those buildings,

711
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 5: so we take them to get those resources. So out

712
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 5: of back call, I'm telling you the language amongst our

713
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 5: young people and the lack of trust. They found out

714
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 5: that the money was allidicated to people and they never

715
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 5: received the money even for the job training. Now, one

716
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 5: of the profound things that I can say to you

717
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 5: at this moment, just millions of dollars, that's being a

718
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 5: lot of catered to people that have programs growing up

719
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 5: to DC jails. I'm saying to myself, all of that

720
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 5: is good because I educated myself while I was incarcerated.

721
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 5: That's why I was able to receive five college degrees.

722
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 5: Of course I'm with that, but it's the same money

723
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 5: truck equippled to stop them, meaning job training and jobs

724
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 5: from them going through the jail. That's what I'm talking about, Paul, I.

725
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: Got I got some folks tweeting for you, and some

726
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: of them are out of town. So let me tell

727
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: you the first one from Chicago. It says crame gone

728
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 1: down in washing d seeds if the residents feel safe,

729
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: sin said Trump. But the end of the troops, that's

730
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: a question. Yeah, that's a question for you. That's a

731
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: tweet for you.

732
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 5: I don't believe it. I'm out there every day. And

733
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 5: then if a man won't treat you right, what makes

734
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 5: you think you're gonna teach you right. There's a verse

735
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 5: in all the Quaran, chapter forty nine, verse six, when

736
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 5: the unrenchest man bring you news. So we got to

737
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 5: be careful who you get now news from, because that's

738
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 5: the beef that oversight Congress. Just use the hours of

739
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 5: Pameles Smith. She's they say that she falsified the data.

740
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 5: But when you out there in the streets like we

741
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 5: are in Washington, d C. They still come out. People

742
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 5: still committing crimes, a lot of us not even being

743
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 5: reported because this this these is not Chocolate City anymore.

744
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 5: It can uh uh justificated. So these Europeans is not

745
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 5: sorting those crimes because they want to stay here. They

746
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 5: got the house. This is nothing for them. This is

747
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 5: why the brother that's running for Congress, he mentioned Barry

748
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 5: Farms got home. History with Barry Farms and Marion Barry

749
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 5: gonna be wiped out in a minute once they get

750
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 5: in there. Brother is over with And that's what he

751
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 5: was telling me because he know, okay, I heard about you.

752
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 5: You will speak the truth as you know it. But

753
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 5: he's really telling me this sound alarmed. So now I'm

754
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 5: not gonna say and never say that the climb without

755
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 5: sure facts of the matter, it's easy. And this is

756
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 5: why we have to be extremely careful Kaul, listening to

757
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 5: these people with these narratives, running away with these narratives

758
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 5: as if it's actual facts. We have to investigate it

759
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 5: before we even mention it again, because where's a first

760
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 5: halfle when we what these people are saying or anybody

761
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 5: else and don't vet it. Our people committee climbs every day.

762
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 5: I know to be a fuck. I'm stuck in Southeast

763
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 5: and I'm telling you, brother, it's off the chain to

764
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 5: the point that they're challenging Trump people over there. I'm

765
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 5: talking about challenging. I'm watching them and I'm standing between it.

766
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 5: See so these brothers are still selling clank, they still

767
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 5: selling weed, they still robbing, They still got deep in

768
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 5: the hood. They didn't stopped from no damn Trump. And

769
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 5: if you believe that because they are here and they

770
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 5: stopped because Trump I got to act for a urine

771
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 5: test from you. If you think that time stopped in

772
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 5: washing the DC because she's a president for pennsyl say

773
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 5: to do something is bro something is wrong?

774
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: All right? Old that thought right there, it's shaving away

775
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: from the top. They got another tweet. It's more of

776
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: a statement. This tweet twet says the problem starts with

777
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 1: the parents. Let's stop kicking the hand down the road.

778
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: Why don't they trust their parents? Why aren't they in school?

779
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: Those are the two questions for your brother diary.

780
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 5: What that's the beautiful question because the parents ain't there.

781
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 5: And if the parents is there, the parents is their

782
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 5: friends and just general roytio amongst us as a people,

783
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 5: because there was a time where even if your parents

784
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 5: weren't there, if there was one turning home, there was grandmama.

785
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 5: Grandmama gone. So you got these young girls having these

786
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 5: babies twenty five years old. Their little baby is almost

787
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 5: eleven or ten and eleven, so she's raising as a

788
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 5: baby another baby. The mother probably he's on drugs. If

789
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 5: the mother's not on drugs, then the art partly has

790
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 5: the baby. And this is why you remember, Paul, they keep, oh,

791
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 5: kept asking for curfus for young people. What they've doing

792
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 5: out two three o'clock in the morning, purfuse. So they're

793
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 5: raising themselves so hard. When you talk about the complex problem,

794
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 5: this is a problem they is in themselves.

795
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: So on now, school, you're in favor of extending the

796
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: curfew of Washington, DC.

797
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 5: No, I'm not. No, I'm not at all because at

798
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 5: the end of the day call we goes out six

799
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 5: o'clock to three o'clock in the morning, some of us,

800
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 5: and we see them out there. You ain't got no

801
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 5: business out there at no three o'clock in the morning.

802
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 5: So I'm not in favor of that room in the

803
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 5: streets because that's when Trump keeps us out there. Brother.

804
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 5: When they out there, brother, they pulling these little sisters

805
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 5: over in gas stations, provoking them, let me see your tags?

806
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 5: Do you have a gun license? That's all the stuff

807
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 5: they pressing them. They find in a way only for

808
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 5: the judges. The next morning they let them back out.

809
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 5: That's what's going on in the saving From that perspective,

810
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 5: so when you're talking about parents, if the parents are

811
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 5: not there, they're not going to school. They have no

812
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 5: confidence in school, and then the teachers don't know how

813
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 5: to attract their mind because the food in terms of

814
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 5: education is anaquidum. It's outdated. You said, self hatred. This

815
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 5: is what we need to learn. Knowledge yourself back all

816
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 5: over again. But they're not kissing that in the American

817
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 5: school system is not designed by Rockefeller and them to

818
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 5: do so, mister can and mister Dewey, they didn't design

819
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 5: the educational system to educate their slaves. Hell no. So

820
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 5: when you're talking about what the problem is, its complex.

821
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 5: You just got to deal with it one at a time.

822
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 5: So all we just got to be engaged in committed

823
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 5: to do it. And so you said it best. It's

824
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 5: easy to participate, it's easy to speak about it. But

825
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 5: you're right, call we about solutions and one brother, docle.

826
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: We got to check the traffic we having at different cities.

827
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: And for the folks who are listening to us, and

828
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: we've got people listenings all over the world listen to us.

829
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: This is not a typical African American community that you're hearing.

830
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: This is just a small fractional part of it. Most

831
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: of us we live together. We're good we're not killing

832
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: each other. I just want to get that out there

833
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: because some people run with it and think this is

834
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: what we are and then react on that. Anyway, as

835
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: I mentioned, we've got to check the traffic and weather

836
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: in out different cities three minutes away from the top

837
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: day our family. You want to speak to our guests,

838
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: doctor Darrel Muhammed. I'm gonna call him and give him

839
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 1: a doctor now because he's been this for quite some time.

840
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: You can reach us at eight hundred four or five

841
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take a phone

842
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: calls after the traffic and weather is next. And Grand

843
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: Rising family, thanks for starting your Thursday with us. And

844
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: I guess their brother, Tyrel Muhammad's been on a crusade

845
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: for decades now trying to, you know, find a key

846
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: to what's the crime problem in Washington, d C. And

847
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: before we left for the traffic and weather update, I

848
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: had to mention the fact that you know, because we

849
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: have folks who listen to us all the time and

850
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: you guys may not know this, and they don't interact

851
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: with us in our community, and they think this is

852
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 1: all our community is all about. And I just again

853
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: it's just a fraction, it's not all of them. But

854
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: the problem is our problem. The other folks really don't care.

855
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: We have to solve this problem. This is what brother

856
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: Dyrel Mohammad's been trying to do. It's trying to come

857
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 1: to solutions how to solve this problem. In fact, he's needed.

858
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: He says he needs ten thousand fearless men. Can you

859
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: tell us about that part, Brother Diarrel.

860
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the honor more min is the Louis

861
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 5: Pharicon because to stop the killing. I got the idea

862
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 5: from the honorablemen is the Louis Paracon. Make our community

863
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 5: a deces and safe place to live. I got that

864
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,439
Speaker 5: from the honorable men's of the Pharakhon, and he said

865
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 5: we need ten thousand feelers men. He didn't say Muslims.

866
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 5: He said men. Men watch ten thousand feelers men to

867
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 5: get between the guns, the knives, the debt itself to

868
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 5: save our people. We don't need a lot, because the

869
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 5: Holy Koran says success don't been on numbers. We just

870
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 5: have to get out and engage our people. This is

871
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Huh, we have to get out and whatever.

872
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 5: You have a solution of substance. It has to be given.

873
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 5: We can't withhold it back and look at the condition

874
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 5: of our people and just condemn it and don't do

875
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 5: nothing and just watch our people die. To claim that

876
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 5: we have solutions to problems. That's what I'm passionate about

877
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 5: because it's gonna take all of us to deal with

878
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 5: this generation. Because this generation is like the Joshua generation.

879
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 5: This is the.

880
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 7: Generation that will will free us. They just need right

881
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 7: leadership and right guidance. They don't fear nothing, Carl, That's

882
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 7: why it works with them like that. They don't feel nothing.

883
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 7: This is the generation. So are many of us are

884
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 7: holding going to this system of America. Many of us

885
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 7: we're still on the plantation. So when you talk about solution,

886
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 7: there's things that have to be addressed amongst us that

887
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 7: these young keepers do not want to be a part of.

888
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 5: They don't want to be a part of just for

889
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 5: another show. They see it. They brilliant, the intelligent. I

890
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 5: heard the honorable minutes that Louis Farrakhan say, this is

891
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 5: the best generation that was ever produced in this country.

892
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 5: They just need some guidance. So we can't have the

893
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 5: guidance and don't give it to them. That's what I'm saying, Caul.

894
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: Now, I do appreciate what you're doing, because you know,

895
00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: a lot of folks can see what's going on in

896
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: our come you know, and they just bypassion and think

897
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: somebody else is going to solve the problem. And the

898
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: problem is our problem. It's our community. And I keep

899
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 1: saying this. The other folks don't care if we kill

900
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: each other. In fact, they give it thumbs up because

901
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: we're doing their work for them. And that's for the

902
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: part of it. When I was telling you what the

903
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 1: brother and I keep mentioning a questions says, know thy shelves.

904
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 1: If those young people knew who they were, where they

905
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: come from, came from, and their greatness and our ancestors,

906
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: they wouldn't even say another curse, bad word or a

907
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: bad you know, say something negative about another black person

908
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: on this planet. And the problem is that brother says

909
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: that most of us don't know who we are. We've

910
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: heard this. Sister Malcolm's daughter was on the other and

911
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: she said the same thing. You know, people don't know

912
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: who are So people could tell us that we're this

913
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: and where that you're an adults or you're a foundation

914
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: because they can buil the all that because you don't

915
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: know who you are, and so you follow those folks

916
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: who tell you who you are. But you have to

917
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: do the research and find out who you are, or

918
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: you have to listen to some of our scholars to

919
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: tell us who we are and show us the way.

920
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 5: Paul, the beautiful thing for me, brother man, was that

921
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 5: other twenty thousand who you're going to have on later on.

922
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 5: Why I was inconcentrated those twenty three years. Remember I

923
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 5: did fifty years as military consignment. I was able to

924
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 5: get that brother's books, the scholarship from him. One of

925
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 5: the degrees I have, I have an American Studies degree

926
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 5: I was take. I was able to take the knowledge

927
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 5: of his scholarship and almost get that degree without college books.

928
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 5: And if our young keeper can learn about General Tyreek

929
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 5: when he went to conquer Spain in seventy eleven, and

930
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 5: he said, to see is behind us, and your enemies

931
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 5: before your before you, and he burned those boats. He said,

932
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 5: we ain't retreating. We don't conquer or die. And if

933
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 5: our young keeper can learn about Queen Candace from Sudan

934
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 5: and Ethiopia battle to Romans, it's the curate giefs. If

935
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 5: our people can learn about man's of Musa, the richest

936
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:12,760
Speaker 5: first man in the world at that time in Maley Kingdom,

937
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 5: you get that kind of knowledge and it does something

938
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 5: to you. And this is one of the most vulnerable

939
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 5: Elijah Muhammad, I thank Almighty God for him. What he

940
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 5: was able to produce in the sinkers in America is

941
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,959
Speaker 5: to take us back to the rich history. And he said,

942
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 5: if you go back sixty thousand years, you wouldn't find

943
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 5: a Negro on the planet. So if that curriculum can

944
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 5: be given to our young people to let them know that, yeah,

945
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 5: we are kings and queens. We rebuilt, will not rebuilt.

946
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 5: We civilize the doctor your Kian's life as they was

947
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 5: in the top ages. And if we knew that, brother,

948
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 5: if we knew our history once again, who want to

949
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 5: teach you?

950
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: See?

951
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 5: So when we out in the street call, we have

952
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 5: to continue to go out there some of that, some

953
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 5: of the conversations that we have history. See, and their

954
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 5: eyes light up when they knew all the inventions before

955
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 5: there was a Christopher Columbus, the black man was already

956
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 5: out here over here. The old next to expect when

957
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 5: they know that and found out we was already over here.

958
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 5: That kind of knowledge like that does something to there

959
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 5: because it's foreign to them. And if it's born to them,

960
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 5: that means that their knowledge wasn't given to them in

961
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 5: their homes, and it's not given to them in this

962
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 5: in this schools. So where are they going to get

963
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 5: it from? They caught up in the gravitational pull of society.

964
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 5: They ain't going time to read nothing.

965
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: And I'm saying, Rosie Melligan sound deck. We got to

966
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: get to doctor Rosie. But before we get to let

967
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: you go, though, you're having an event this weekend to

968
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: highlight what you're trying to do. Can you tell us

969
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: about that?

970
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 5: Yes? Uh, This Saturday, uh the twentieth, from five to

971
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 5: ten up at the Arc of Southeast, the heart of Southeast.

972
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 5: We got three notorious neighborhoods that the leaders and the

973
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 5: people are getting together because they want these And they

974
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 5: came to me and say, look here, you not like

975
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 5: the rest of them. You trustworthy, We trust you, and

976
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 5: were getting them together and once again called we're gonna

977
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 5: provide jobs and resources. I got a few people that

978
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 5: have a few dollars that's coming over to provide resources,

979
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:32,240
Speaker 5: job training, housing, mental health. Because traumatized people traumatized people.

980
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 5: That's one of the things with these young people. They traumatized.

981
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 5: So I have people around me to help me help

982
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 5: out people. Once again, I don't get a dime I

983
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 5: pay for the event. Again, I don't get no government

984
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 5: from fundness. Man. I have to be free to say

985
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,240
Speaker 5: what I need to say. So when I say certain things,

986
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 5: I'm saying that realistically, I'm dealing with their reality. So

987
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 5: you know, I'm going against the gravitational plotter what's going

988
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 5: on in the city. But it's all right. They we

989
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,280
Speaker 5: need to overcome. So that's what's going on from there.

990
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 5: We're going to stay in the community, all right.

991
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: So what time does this event start and how can

992
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 1: folks get more information?

993
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 5: The event started at five o'clock. We didn't want a

994
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 5: long event. We just want to get them brothers the platform.

995
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 5: We could all of us go step back, give them

996
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 5: the platform, listen to them. Like you said, Carl, hear

997
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 5: the problem, come with the solution, and then we're going

998
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 5: to stay in that neighborhood for a week. Galvanized inspired

999
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 5: men in that neighborhood to make their community a des

1000
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 5: safe place to live and just sit back and support them.

1001
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 5: But the starts at five is in that ten o'clock

1002
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 5: we're going to stay in the neighborhood and in the

1003
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 5: incharm Ow god Winn. A month from now, twenty twenty six,

1004
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 5: we're going to do it again, all right.

1005
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: I want you to report again in twenty twenty six

1006
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: how it turned out. Thank you, Dyral, and thank you

1007
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 1: for what you do man, because you're not being in

1008
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: the streets. You've been going to these schools, talking to

1009
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: these young people and trying to find a solution to

1010
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: why they do some of the inappropriate things that they do.

1011
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: So I thank you for doing that because a lot

1012
00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: of folks just see them as a well all the

1013
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: kids are bad and all this kind of stuff, but

1014
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: they don't do anything. But at least you, you know,

1015
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: you picked up the baton and you moving with it.

1016
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: So I just want to thank you for doing that.

1017
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 4: Brother, Die, You're welcome all.

1018
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 5: Its extremely dangerous, my brother. You don't know if you

1019
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 5: want to come home at night dealing with this every day.

1020
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 5: You don't know, just the reality that you just don't

1021
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 5: know if you're going to come back home. It's that

1022
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 5: dangerous because our people are so dead on different levels

1023
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 5: that they're killing anybody for anything. Brother see, so thank you.

1024
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 5: It's the love of our people that's moving us forward,

1025
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 5: all right.

1026
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: Thank you, Brother Diary. I posted on social media folks,

1027
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 1: so you can check it out and help brother diaryel

1028
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: because it's a it's a hard road out there sometimes

1029
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: dealing with our people is really really tough. And I

1030
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: know our next guest knows all about that, Doctor Rosie Mulligan,

1031
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: Doctor Rosie Milligan, Grand Rising, welcome back to the program.

1032
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 5: Thank you so much as always.

1033
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 1: And doctor Rosie is an author, a publisher. She's also

1034
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: on TREP. Know she's a business person as well, and

1035
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: she's done a lot in our community. Doctor Rosie, you

1036
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: say and sort of uh, you know, getting back to

1037
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: a brother diaryll just said about our young people. You

1038
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: said it's time to get in our children's business. What

1039
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: do you mean by that?

1040
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 8: Absolutely, I mean it's time to get in our children's

1041
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 8: business now, not later, because legally grown does not mean

1042
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 8: life readiness. And I always say to parents' cause don't

1043
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 8: wait for a funeral, don't wait for a laws through

1044
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 8: the hospital bed, a financial collapse. To finally ask questions

1045
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 8: to your children. You know, when you see something, we

1046
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 8: always say when you see something, state something. That's the

1047
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 8: same thing with your children. When you see something, state something,

1048
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 8: it's important. Legal age does not cancel for rental responsibility.

1049
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 8: Being a parent does not expire at eighteen pans mind

1050
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 8: and your children is costing your children everything. Sickness, broken

1051
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 8: marriage is called jail time, even death, as I mentioned,

1052
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 8: So it's time to have a conversation. That's why our

1053
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 8: children are going us straight. Because many parents don't know

1054
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 8: where they kids so leeping over with people's house. They

1055
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 8: don't know. The parents don't know who they're associating with.

1056
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 8: You feel like it's not my business. Whoever they select

1057
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 8: their friend is all right. That's why this generation is

1058
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 8: so far off base because grown folks, parents feel like

1059
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 8: we're the eighteen. I mean, who came up.

1060
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 5: Card with this thing in the first place?

1061
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 8: The eighteen Your hands are off. It's not biblical, it's

1062
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 8: not any place we have to come to realize. We

1063
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 8: can't go by and be comfortable because whether they law fay,

1064
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 8: these are your kids that all said, when they get eighteen,

1065
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 8: you have you can't you can't tell them nothing that

1066
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 8: you can't do nothing with them. If they're sick, you

1067
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 8: can't spank them, but the police can't kill them. It's

1068
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 8: time that we get into that business. When received they're

1069
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 8: doing something. They may hate you now, but I guarantee

1070
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 8: you they will thank you later. Because age does not

1071
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 8: equal wisdom. I'm gonna repeat that age does not equal wisdom.

1072
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 8: Why parents must stay in that children's business. It's not snooping,

1073
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 8: it's not it's about some bindful and I want to

1074
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 8: send that message out to our parents. Get into the business.

1075
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 8: I see telling me, well, I don't go in my

1076
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 8: kids room twelve years old. He ain't got no room,

1077
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 8: he ain't paying no rent. When are we gonna come

1078
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 8: back and be parents the way we used to be

1079
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 8: and stop That's why our kids saw when we started

1080
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 8: acting lect other people, letting them do what they want to, wear,

1081
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 8: what they want to, say, what they want to that's

1082
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 8: when we start losing our kids. When we start raising

1083
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 8: them the way grandma and grandpa raised us, with values,

1084
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 8: with respect and making them respect other people, not long

1085
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 8: just you. If our pants heard that we disrebect respecting elder,

1086
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,439
Speaker 8: we would hope that nobody told them. But we're stand

1087
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 8: up and letting our kids. It's amazing how somebody's kids

1088
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 8: let their kids stand up to me at eighty years old.

1089
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 5: Rose it.

1090
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 8: I mean, don't even have no respect to say mis

1091
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:45,439
Speaker 8: or grandmama or whatever. But we gotta get into that bitch.

1092
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 8: When you see your kid coming home, call you know

1093
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 8: he doesn't have a job anywhere bringing in new stuff,

1094
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 8: buying stuff. I remember Minister Farrakin talked about that, how

1095
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 8: PAMs turned their eye to Steff and happen it because

1096
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 8: they're benefitting because he brought you a new coat, he

1097
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,919
Speaker 8: brought you something from the money he got. So I'm

1098
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 8: concerned about this next generation because if we don't take charge,

1099
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 8: the world is making money off of us. When our

1100
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 8: kids are incarcerated, caught, that's a business for other people.

1101
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 8: We are part of the gross national product when our

1102
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,439
Speaker 8: kids are in the system, when they are in foster home.

1103
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 8: It's not meant about our people have foster home. So

1104
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 8: who's making mine off our kids? Who's making money off

1105
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 8: of the error to mistake that we're making fun of

1106
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 8: the things that we're doing. So I'm passionate about saying

1107
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 8: parents get in your children's business because later may never come.

1108
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: So let me tell me here, Doctor Rosie at fourteen fifteen,

1109
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: actually right after the top of the eye. He's just

1110
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: sure to joining his family of doctor Rossi Milgan is there.

1111
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: Doctor Rosie is an entrepreneur. She's a business person. She's

1112
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: also a publisher and an author. And by the way,

1113
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: if you got a book, an idea for a book,

1114
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: she can publish it for it. She's done a lot

1115
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: of guests on the show. She's published at books. She's

1116
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: based in la But Doctor Rosie, my question to you

1117
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: is what age do you start getting into their business?

1118
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: Because you know, if you haven't been doing it when

1119
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: they were younger, and you try to do those teams,

1120
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna get some pushback. Or if you try to

1121
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: win a young adult, they're going to stay out of

1122
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: my business. So what age should you have these conversations

1123
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: you start?

1124
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 8: You in the business from zero to death. You're always

1125
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 8: de pin You always have a responsibility for the children.

1126
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 5: That you brought into this world.

1127
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 8: God gave those children to you. It is your responsibility.

1128
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 8: I don't care if they sixty, If they it doesn't

1129
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 8: come up with because you know, people that fifteen sixteen

1130
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 8: ain't got no sense, Okay, don't have wisdom, and you

1131
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,479
Speaker 8: gonna stand back and not say anything when you see

1132
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 8: they're going to financial run if your child keep coming

1133
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 8: to you, they've grown, have their own house, and children

1134
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 8: always want to borrow money, always run. In short, don't

1135
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 8: you think it's time for you to stop the well,

1136
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 8: let's sit down and have a comfort. Now, why are

1137
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 8: you always what is going on with your finance? You

1138
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 8: need to start talking about do you have insurance? You

1139
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 8: telling me don't get in your business, but when you die,

1140
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 8: I'm in it because I got buried. When you losing

1141
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 8: your home it's in foreclosing. Then you wait and you

1142
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 8: run to me, I'm in your business. So I can

1143
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 8: be in your business.

1144
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 5: As long as you live.

1145
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 8: And when things are going bad with our children, they

1146
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 8: shouldn't even have to come to us and ask for help.

1147
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 5: When we see it, we need to step in. They

1148
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 5: need instruction.

1149
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 8: Ca car who talking who talked them about finance? Who

1150
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 8: talked to them about having a ben tissrail on their account?

1151
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 1: Right now?

1152
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 5: Hold of thor?

1153
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: Right there, doctor Rosie, because hold of Thori. We gotta

1154
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 1: step aside a few months. And those are good questions.

1155
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 1: Are great questions you're asking but then again, the parents

1156
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: themselves don't know. So how at what point does the

1157
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: parents have to re educate themselves about business, about banking,

1158
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: about credit and all that. Have these conversations and what

1159
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: age should you have these conversations with your child. I'll

1160
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 1: let you answer those questions when we get back. Family.

1161
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 1: You two can get in on this discussion with doctor

1162
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: Rosie Milligan. Reach out to us at eight hundred four

1163
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 1: or five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take

1164
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: your phone calls next and grand right, I'm seeing family.

1165
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: Thanks for starting your Thursday with us and our guests,

1166
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: Doctor Rossi Milligan. Dodtor Rosie is an author who's a

1167
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: publisher as well as a business person. She's got a

1168
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: store out in Los Angeles, and she said this morning,

1169
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: she says, we need to get in our children's business.

1170
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 1: We need to find out what's going on in their

1171
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: lives and all this. Doctor Rosie, it seems she's coming

1172
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: from the breakdown of the Black family, because that used

1173
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,040
Speaker 1: to be the case. We used to be close to

1174
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: with our children. And my question too is what age

1175
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: do we start having these conversations about finance. Example, So

1176
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 1: you know, as you mentioned in early I said, the

1177
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: late teens, early twenties, and young people now and they're

1178
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: still coming to borrow money and all this and then

1179
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 1: making some of these mistakes that if you were taught earlier,

1180
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have made those mistakes. But at what age

1181
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: do we start this and how can we do many

1182
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 1: of our parents, many of the parents don't know these

1183
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: rules and regulations themselves.

1184
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 8: Well, then what happened. That's why it's so important. Grandparents

1185
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 8: are so important in children lives because let me say,

1186
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 8: what has happened to our community, as you well know,

1187
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 8: specially coming from LA during the years when drugs was

1188
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 8: planted in our community, we almost we lost the potential

1189
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 8: of the generation that power because many of them was

1190
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 8: involved with drugs. A lot of children well had absente

1191
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 8: parents because they was locked up. And during that time

1192
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 8: we lived a little history. Grandmama couldn't even keep the

1193
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 8: kid because she didn't have enough money to do it

1194
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 8: on our own, and this system would not allow that

1195
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 8: grandmother or the family members could take these children, so

1196
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 8: they were dropped into foster homes. So now we're looking

1197
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 8: at children who didn't have rearing and instruction by their parents,

1198
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 8: and they are out trying to operate on their own.

1199
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 8: So we need to see ourselves as an extension the

1200
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 8: way it used to be. That this child belongs to

1201
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 8: all of us. So we got to come back to

1202
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 8: a community approach. Since we know the problem, We know

1203
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 8: these what happened to these children, and we acting as

1204
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 8: if we don't know. So we stand on the side

1205
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 8: nine rule. They sold these They stupid they did. They

1206
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 8: don't have no training.

1207
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 5: Who train them?

1208
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 8: They don't know even a man of our young kids

1209
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 8: don't even have a checking account, They don't know anything

1210
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 8: about credit. They get all messed up and they get

1211
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 8: locked out of the bank system. Now they have to

1212
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 8: go to check cashing places, paying to cash a check

1213
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 8: for the money that they have worked for. So that

1214
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 8: child may not know, but you next door and you

1215
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 8: know that mama next door don't know anything, then you

1216
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 8: need to reach out and try and be a mother

1217
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 8: a pair to that child. We all gonna have to

1218
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 8: be responsible for trying to save our people, because if

1219
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 8: we don't, that child that you don't care about is

1220
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 8: the one that's.

1221
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 5: Subject to kill.

1222
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 8: Your child standing there the ATM trying to get money

1223
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 8: because nobody cared about him when we understand that this

1224
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 8: thing is about all of us and not about me,

1225
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 8: because I'm doing well, I'm my kid educated, I'm living

1226
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 8: on this side of the town. Whatever side of town

1227
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 8: you're living on does not make you safe. So yes,

1228
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 8: we need to getting our children. This some cruen you

1229
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 8: think about legally grown. There's a dangerous myth. Age does not,

1230
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 8: as I say eco wisdom, age do not equal preparation.

1231
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 8: Age does not equal protection. And I know some parents

1232
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 8: will worry about it if I get it. If I

1233
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 8: say this, they may not like me. Being a parent

1234
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 8: is not about being like. It really isn't real. Parenting

1235
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 8: isn't about being like. Temporarily anger is cheaper than permanent regret,

1236
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 8: so you worry about your child being angry. When I

1237
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 8: do estate planning, car I have parents who have a

1238
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 8: child on drugs, doing everything, and they want to need

1239
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 8: that child on a house with the other three kids

1240
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 8: that they have, And I say, well, this doesn't make sense.

1241
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 8: You know this child would want to sell the house

1242
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 8: before they bury you And the parents will look at

1243
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 8: me and say, well, I don't want Junior to be mad.

1244
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 8: I said mad? Can he dig you up?

1245
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 5: What is he going to do?

1246
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 8: Till we have to make sense getting our children. This

1247
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 8: make sense even when we're leaving and inherited to our children.

1248
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 4: Called.

1249
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 5: My statement to my.

1250
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 8: Clients is this. You know, when it comes to your

1251
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:28,520
Speaker 8: stuff you work hard for, this is not the affirmity

1252
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 8: action program. I want to repeat that because I see

1253
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 8: that mistake so often. Well, they're all my kids, but

1254
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 8: you know this is not the affirmity action program. When

1255
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 8: it comes to what you have worked hard and labored for,

1256
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 8: we grown people, we pay him gott to start making

1257
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 8: better decisions. That's why our children left in the economic ditch,

1258
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 8: because we are worried about how they like us and

1259
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 8: what they think. They are not worried about what you think.

1260
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 8: Some of 'em won't do anything that you say do,

1261
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 8: So it's time to get in their business. What's up

1262
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 8: where you get the money to get this coat from?

1263
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 8: How you doing this?

1264
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 9: Or that?

1265
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 8: I don't kid there in your house or out of

1266
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 8: your house. Pamph Mental guidance should never stop. That's the

1267
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 8: myth for our people where they grown little, make their

1268
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 8: bed hard. They got to lay in all of the

1269
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 8: crazy madness.

1270
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 4: I got mine.

1271
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:30,799
Speaker 5: They get there, come on black coats.

1272
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, but doctor Rosie twenty seven. Half the Top There,

1273
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 1: what is the child? It says, uh, well, I'm grown now,

1274
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:40,959
Speaker 1: you know that's the I can make my own decisions,

1275
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 1: and you know that they're making a decision. That's that's

1276
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: not it's not gonna work out for them. You know

1277
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 1: that because you've been there before. You've got the experience

1278
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: or they're getting with the person that you that you

1279
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 1: know doesn't really care for them. It's just probably just

1280
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 1: trying to use them and in effect use you too,

1281
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 1: because you got to support them. If something goes left.

1282
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 1: What do you say when they say, mama's stay out

1283
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:00,639
Speaker 1: of my business because I'm.

1284
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 8: Going now, So my child, I'm gonna always be in

1285
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 8: your business. Your business is my business because i'm your parents.

1286
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 8: You may not listen to me now, but you can

1287
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 8: never say, son or daughter that I didn't tell you.

1288
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:21,759
Speaker 8: That's why I want him to think you can never.

1289
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 8: You don't want to live with regrets if I had

1290
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 8: told him I knew this boy he was running with

1291
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 8: with this or that, because everybody in the community to

1292
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 8: new But then when he come up in jail he

1293
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 8: ends up dead.

1294
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 5: Then you got regrets.

1295
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 8: Parents, am saying till you put yourself in position that

1296
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 8: there are no regrets. If something happened to your children,

1297
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 8: it's important.

1298
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 5: That's why you.

1299
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 8: Want to talk to them about finance.

1300
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 5: You need to ask.

1301
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 8: Them, and I asked PAMs a question. If you don't

1302
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 8: want to be in their business, you ignore all the

1303
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 8: red flass with your child. Did your parents prepare you

1304
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 8: for a dog to her?

1305
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 5: Or did you learn the hard way?

1306
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,600
Speaker 8: So here you go when ain't nobody told me I

1307
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 8: learned the hard way. I don't want my kids to

1308
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 8: learn the hardway, and you should not want yours to

1309
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 8: learn it hardway. If something happened to your children today,

1310
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 8: you wouldn't know anything about their business. You wouldn't know

1311
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 8: until a lot of young people call a living on

1312
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 8: their own. They've grown it twenty to thirty forty. But

1313
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 8: if they die, get killed, or something happened here, you

1314
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 8: don't know whether they have insurance. You don't know if

1315
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 8: they have a trust. You don't know what their last

1316
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 8: wishes are, whether they want to be buried cremated, You

1317
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 8: don't know if they have beneficiary on their accounts. You

1318
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 8: don't even know anything about them car you know how

1319
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 8: much money goes to the state Accountiforny every year millions

1320
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 8: of dollars because there are people who make their transition

1321
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 8: younger people, young adug and nobody knew they had retirement.

1322
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 8: Nobody knew they had a thing. Could count here, folks,

1323
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 8: it's time. I'm serious about this. I stay in my

1324
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 8: children's business, Yes I do.

1325
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 5: I remember my daughter.

1326
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 8: Husband said once to me, well, you know she's my

1327
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 8: wife and she's married.

1328
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 5: She's grown.

1329
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 8: I said, left, back up, she was my.

1330
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 5: Daughter before she met you.

1331
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 8: Okay, when she went to college. I don't see not

1332
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 8: one two istion that you pay, so you need to

1333
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 8: back up. I love you, I said. Not only am

1334
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 8: I gonna be in her business? If I see something

1335
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 8: that about you that I need to inform you, educate you,

1336
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 8: son in law, I'm gonna be in your business too.

1337
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 5: That's it.

1338
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 1: I'm just laughing. I'm just an official of that conversation.

1339
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 1: You really have that conversation with your daughter.

1340
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 8: She's gonna always be my daughter. I looked at men

1341
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 8: who allow husbands to beat on their daughters, and you

1342
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 8: stay out of it as a man a woman, how

1343
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 8: you gonna stay out? And your daughter got a black eye,

1344
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 8: come into your house till she get ready to go

1345
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 8: till she feel comfortable. He come with you can come

1346
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 8: back now. I'm sorry.

1347
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 5: They well, I ain't gonna be in their business.

1348
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 8: That makes no daunt since at all.

1349
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:21,560
Speaker 4: My business.

1350
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: Okay, doctor Rosie, when you told your sonny law, he's

1351
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 1: gonna be in his business? What he said?

1352
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 5: I sure didn't.

1353
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 4: He didn't.

1354
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 8: He didn't say no for okay people, you know what

1355
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 8: grown post. Everybody's looking for discipline and looking for for

1356
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 8: ruse and regulation. Yes, I I just let him know

1357
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 8: straight up front. He used to come to the car

1358
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 8: my daughter.

1359
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 5: Even her kids. They were pam, you seen my shoes?

1360
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 5: Her husband, Uh, you seen my glasses? So I went

1361
01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 5: up there said, look, don't you guys ask her about

1362
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 5: wear your shirt? Don't ask her anything? I mean, why

1363
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 5: you keep pulling on her? And so one day we would.

1364
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 8: Sit me in her would sitting in the bedroom and

1365
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 8: her husband came to the door. She said pay him

1366
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 8: you see He said, oh, I'm sorry and ran on out. Yeah,

1367
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 8: I'm in the business.

1368
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 5: That's my daughter.

1369
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 8: God gave her to me. She's gonna always be my daughter.

1370
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 8: And I'm gonna say something at any time I think

1371
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 8: something is wrong that can cause her some issues in life.

1372
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 8: That's why get.

1373
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 5: In their business. Got to me.

1374
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 8: When you need something, you put me in. And if

1375
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 8: your house isn't foreclosure, you put me in. And if

1376
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 8: you can't pay your card and over it they about

1377
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 8: to come get it, you put me in. And when

1378
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 8: you shot up money and needs to borrow at something,

1379
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 8: I'm in your business, all right.

1380
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 1: I got a tweet question for you, doctor Rosie. Wow,

1381
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:55,719
Speaker 1: doctor Rosie. Tweet It says, I have a relative who's

1382
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 1: married and a fifty year old fifty your old son

1383
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 1: still is in a house, has never lived on his own.

1384
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: She keeps him there and I see them more than

1385
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: I see her with the husband through the years. We

1386
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 1: tried introducing him to people's age, and she jumps in

1387
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 1: and blocks us. When should parents stop being friends with

1388
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 1: their children? What happens if she does? What happens if

1389
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 1: she does? The husband already said he has to go.

1390
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 8: You never, it's never age of that you stop. Parents understand,

1391
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 8: and they see.

1392
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 5: Especially their mother, a lot of times. They know the.

1393
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 8: Weakness, They know the downfalls. They know their children because

1394
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 8: they're the one with him from child up. When the

1395
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 8: husband is out working, they just don't pay as much

1396
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 8: attention many of them. So there's some weakness. There's something

1397
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 8: there that she knows about her son, but maybe she

1398
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 8: doesn't know how to prepare him to go further. And

1399
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 8: since he's not doing it, then she feels like she

1400
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 8: has to to take up to slap to try to

1401
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 8: protect him. Women don't just try to. We always talk

1402
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 8: about how women's smother and mother that son, backup car.

1403
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,599
Speaker 8: They do the same thing with their hustles. Look at

1404
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 8: all these men who are not working and some are

1405
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 8: worcome and not to that potential. Do the wife jump

1406
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 8: up and leave them? No, it's something about black women

1407
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:27,879
Speaker 8: that are caretakes us and when we understand the nature

1408
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 8: of black women and then we have to reason out

1409
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 8: why they do and try to get counselor and have

1410
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 8: them to look at because a lot of these women special,

1411
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 8: a lot of single women. They are, you know, like

1412
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 8: they trying to make these sons. They hustle, he's their

1413
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 8: company where he do this and sometimes they are the

1414
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 8: person who are doing everything for themk. So she has

1415
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 8: gotten comfortable for that, but if there's some issues.

1416
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 5: About the child being away from home, they need to

1417
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 5: work at can he leave?

1418
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 8: Is he educational, he mentioned it, and emotionally efficient to

1419
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 8: get a home, specially now in this day people.

1420
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 5: Are going to be living with each other. And that's

1421
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 5: one thing called we might get used to with kids

1422
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 5: coming back home. I ain't no need of us.

1423
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 8: Trying to ask us when I got going on.

1424
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 5: I had my own place.

1425
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, you weren't paying but one hundred and twenty five

1426
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 8: dollars a month for rent. Okay, So come on, stop

1427
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 8: all that foolishness about what you did when you were

1428
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 8: coming up. You know these children are not living in

1429
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 8: the same day that you were living. We came up

1430
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 8: in a time you got educated from at Sunday School,

1431
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 8: which will teachers. But now, ain't nobody saying nothing to

1432
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 8: your kids. They're just isolating parents all you don't give

1433
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 8: them many time that won't get it done. Think of

1434
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:56,560
Speaker 8: people that we know. You can ask so many children

1435
01:17:56,720 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 8: who influenced you. Most time, it's not then parents. Miss

1436
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 8: Lisie down the street, she taught me how to sew.

1437
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 8: She told me this, my coach. Because parents are not talking.

1438
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 8: The kids don't even know what you think. They don't

1439
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 8: know you have a bank account, they don't know you

1440
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 8: have beneficial EPI zooners. They don't know you have a

1441
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 8: living trust. I have people calling me when.

1442
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 5: Their parents died.

1443
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:22,600
Speaker 8: Car my mama died, do doctor mislm Do you know

1444
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 8: whether she had a trust or not?

1445
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 5: And you living right there in the house with them.

1446
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 8: We talk about everything, but talking to our family. I

1447
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 8: suggest that every family at least once a month, just

1448
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 8: like courth of America, you ought to have a sit

1449
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 8: down around the table and get off of the facebooks

1450
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 8: and put your face on a book. Start talking to

1451
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 8: your kids. Don't allow your kids. You're on your way

1452
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:52,639
Speaker 8: to church, they on their phone, ticktocking. They can't talk

1453
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 8: to each other. Kids never saying a word, And you're

1454
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 8: okay with that. So what I'm saying, nobody knows when

1455
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 8: anybody's feeling in that house until it stays away out

1456
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 8: of control.

1457
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 1: All right, hold up, sorr at the doctor ROSI. We

1458
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 1: got to step aside and get caught up with the ladies, news, trafficking,

1459
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 1: weather in our different cities. But before we come back, though,

1460
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 1: tell us, at what point did you, as a parent,

1461
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 1: you know, sit down and figure out what you for

1462
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 1: your after life and you sit with your children. Tell

1463
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 1: me this is what I'm doing and here's the will

1464
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 1: and this, see who's gonna get this? And yeah, because

1465
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 1: she usually asks when the fight starts, you know, right

1466
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 1: after the persons deceased and the children start arguing over

1467
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 1: what's left. I want you to deal with that for

1468
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 1: us and we get back family. You got a question

1469
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 1: for doctor Rosi Milligan to reach out to us at

1470
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 1: eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six and

1471
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 1: we'll take your phone calls after the news trafficking weather,

1472
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 1: It's next and Grand Rising family. Thanks for staying with

1473
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 1: us on this Thursday morning with our guess, doctor Rosie Milligan.

1474
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 1: Doctor Rosie and Milligan basically talking about this the disintegration

1475
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 1: of the black family. We used to be have a

1476
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 1: family unit was you know, mother, father and children, and

1477
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: now it's it's it's just disintegrate and there's no talk

1478
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 1: and no conversations about the future of the family and

1479
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 1: keeping the family intact. See about doctor Rose's discussing this morning,

1480
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 1: you like to reach her hit us up at eight

1481
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: hundred and four five zero seventy eight seventy six. Before

1482
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 1: we go back to her though, I mean, just remind

1483
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 1: her come uple later this morning and speak with chematologists

1484
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 1: brother Tony Browner. Brother Tony has a new book he's

1485
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 1: going to share with us. And also tomorrow is Friday,

1486
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 1: and we give you a chance to free your mind.

1487
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 1: It'll let means think for yourself and join us for

1488
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 1: our open for a Friday program. I'd love to hear

1489
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 1: from you, and we start at six am Eastern Time

1490
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 1: right here in Baltimore on ten ten WLB and also

1491
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 1: in the DMV the Washington, DC Metropolitan here on fourteen

1492
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 1: fifty WL. All right, doctor Ross, got a tweet for

1493
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 1: you from brother Paul, who listens to us in London.

1494
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 1: But before we do that, though, your response to my

1495
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,879
Speaker 1: question about the app when you're prepare for the afterlighte

1496
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 1: when do you have this discussion with your children and

1497
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 1: how do you have the discussion because many of them

1498
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 1: don't want to hear this, you know, but it's necessary

1499
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:54,560
Speaker 1: because we're all going to leave this planning at some point.

1500
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 1: And do you do you have them in the discussion

1501
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 1: when you're planning your will or what you want to

1502
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 1: be to be done after you leave, or you just

1503
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 1: make it in just surprise him. A lot of people

1504
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:08,639
Speaker 1: just don't even do it well. So concerns, O Carl.

1505
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 5: You do these things because.

1506
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 8: You want to have harm in it and peace in

1507
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 8: your family when you're gonna That's why it's important. And

1508
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 8: if gain it needs to be talked about you. It

1509
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 8: is your property.

1510
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 4: You should know.

1511
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 8: Your family should know uh.

1512
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 5: What you're doing, because you might want to ask them,

1513
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 5: say you have two homes. You might want to say

1514
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 5: to the kids which one of you pre fur to

1515
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 5: have the units and which Yes, you need to talk

1516
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 5: to them about that kind of stuff, and then you

1517
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 5: can make things you know proper.

1518
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 8: You may say to the child, that's some drugs. I'm

1519
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 8: not gonna leave you on the house. I'm gonna leave

1520
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 8: you more of the insurance, or I'm going to leave

1521
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 8: you money, but I'm leaving John Doe over it as

1522
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,680
Speaker 8: a guardian because you're not responsible. You need to have

1523
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 8: these conversation versus leaving their daughter over the what you're

1524
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 8: leaving for him, but you never told him so now

1525
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:08,679
Speaker 8: he's mad. So now he's getting a lawyer to try

1526
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 8: to go to court to get his own money. You

1527
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 8: need to have the conversation. I don't know why people

1528
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 8: don't want to talk about them leaving him. I always

1529
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 8: say called to everyone out there listening. When we leave

1530
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 8: home each day, when you leave home each day, you

1531
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 8: expect to return. But if not, is your business in order?

1532
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 8: Do your family know what to do? That becomes a question.

1533
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 8: If you have a special needs child, have you made

1534
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 8: preparation for that child? We got to talk about these things.

1535
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 8: Silence is a bombshell that's destroying our family.

1536
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:47,639
Speaker 5: Carl.

1537
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 8: If your children are on a job, you need to say,

1538
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 8: if you have matching funds on your job, you need

1539
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 8: to take part of that because that's free money. Dams

1540
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 8: don't even talk about none of that. You need to say,

1541
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 8: if you have young children, you have life insurance on

1542
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 8: your job, you need a separate individual policy because you

1543
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 8: need to know that the life insurance are extended if

1544
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:14,719
Speaker 8: you're no longer working. Carb, these a conversation we need

1545
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 8: to have, Yeah.

1546
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 1: Twelve away from the top, un and doctor Rossie these

1547
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 1: conversations said. Of course you need to have these conversations.

1548
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 1: But what if you've you've you've got children, and say,

1549
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 1: if you've got three three children and one is still

1550
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 1: you know, still out there, worldly out there, if you

1551
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,719
Speaker 1: will wilding or whatever, you know what I'm saying. Probably

1552
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 1: on drugs or whatever, and the other two are upstanding.

1553
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 1: How do you how do you deal with that? Do

1554
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 1: you leave some something for them or do you leave

1555
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 1: it in your in your will or your trust and

1556
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,640
Speaker 1: then explain which is better, will or trust? Do you

1557
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 1: leave that for them to to make sure they take

1558
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 1: care of their that their brother or sister or or

1559
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 1: can that be manufactured? Can you culdn be written that way?

1560
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 1: Or maybe your your person, your your child is is

1561
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 1: gonna marry somebody you really don't care here about, so

1562
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 1: can you protect them? Because you know just by you

1563
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 1: know and parents know this, they could tell this is

1564
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 1: not going to last. This relationship is not going to last.

1565
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 1: But you know he might be taken taken to the cleaners.

1566
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 1: So I got to protect him. Can I do it

1567
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 1: the way so that when it is in your mind

1568
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 1: you're going to say, when the engine or divorced, they

1569
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 1: don't get all of his stuff or all of my

1570
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 1: stuff too that I put in here. Can that be done?

1571
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 8: I'm glad you mentioned that because it depends on the

1572
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,879
Speaker 8: laws of the state. In California, this is community property.

1573
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:33,720
Speaker 5: So if I left my daughter.

1574
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 8: House and if she was renting that house and she

1575
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 8: can prove to the court that every time when in

1576
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 8: that house came from the rent, it did not come

1577
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 8: from her money. Then that would always remain herself for property.

1578
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 8: But say it was no long on it, but she

1579
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 8: wanted to borrow money on it. Once she borrowed money

1580
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 8: on it and having to pay, then it becomes equal

1581
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 8: to the hustling Cause whatever money the wife have in

1582
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 8: the community's what's mine is yours, and what's yours is mine.

1583
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 8: That is another reason why people need to have these

1584
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 8: type of conversations. A car and one thing people have

1585
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 8: to understand. I've heard people say, well, her ex husband

1586
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 8: can ever come to the house put that in the trust.

1587
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 8: I say, you cannot move from the grade. That's what

1588
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 8: I want folks understand. Teach while you're here. You can't

1589
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 8: just write something on paper and think that people are

1590
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 8: going to go by that. And sure you don't have

1591
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 8: to leave everybody equal their children that people have left

1592
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 8: told it out, but you have to state that I

1593
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 8: purposely and intentionally are omitted to provide for this child

1594
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 8: in our trust, or you can leave that child or something.

1595
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 8: A lot of people have children inconcerted car. So when

1596
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:53,680
Speaker 8: you're doing your estate planning. Then you do want to

1597
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 8: say who you want to be over what you're leaving for,

1598
01:25:57,439 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 8: or you can say I want you to put his

1599
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 8: part in a trust for him.

1600
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 5: You know.

1601
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, all of these things have to be discussed. You

1602
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 8: can't leave your child lounge just because he's incarcerated, because

1603
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 8: sometimes they shouldn't even be incarcerated. They did a pleabody,

1604
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:17,719
Speaker 8: was a good child. There's a lot of good folks

1605
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 8: behind Boss car Our stand at people, but just made

1606
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 8: one mistake. And sometimes that mistake they made is because

1607
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 8: you didn't get in their business. A lot of children

1608
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 8: in jail because Paments failed. You saw him going down

1609
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 8: the wrong road, You saw him hanging out with the

1610
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 8: wrong people. You saw him coming home buying stuff and

1611
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 8: had no job, but you didn't say nothing.

1612
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 1: Note away from the top of the are doctor Rosie

1613
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:49,679
Speaker 1: Millie and doctor Rossie. I mentioned Paul's listening to us

1614
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 1: in London and Paul and tweeted he says that doctor

1615
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 1: Rosie is absolutely one on point Black people who adopted it.

1616
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 1: Eurocentric indoctrin the nation. We have to sankofa and go

1617
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 1: back to basic family and extended family and village mentality.

1618
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 1: A big stretches when the system is profiting from all

1619
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 1: this nonsense. This is what Paul is saying, says, we

1620
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 1: need to go back to our san kope, back to

1621
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 1: our basic family values as black folks that we used

1622
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 1: to have because we, I guess Paul is basically saying,

1623
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 1: many of us are becoming addicted to white We want

1624
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 1: to do with the with the colonizers have done if

1625
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:24,640
Speaker 1: we want to adopt their way of lifestyle.

1626
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 8: Your response, He's right, we are not Caucasian clone. I

1627
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 8: want black folks to understand. You are not Caucasian clone.

1628
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 8: You dance to a beat, that's that's different. They're the

1629
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 8: ones say well, the man needs to bring in the bacon.

1630
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 8: I talk about that in my relationship seminar. He needs

1631
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 8: to bring in the bacon. The white place is at

1632
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:49,920
Speaker 8: home and our culture Africa. The wife was not at home.

1633
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 8: They were in the marketplace many time with that kids.

1634
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 8: That baby is tied to that back. When you see

1635
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 8: these folks over here with now these little strapped thing

1636
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 8: with that kids on the back, call that ain't nothing new.

1637
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:04,919
Speaker 5: That's how African.

1638
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 8: That's how they did.

1639
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 5: They have these babies in this strap that they back

1640
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 5: there out in the marketplace. It was no such thing.

1641
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:13,599
Speaker 5: You stay home, you don't work.

1642
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 8: The man is supposed to work, so he's absolutely right.

1643
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 8: We need to understand we're not Caucasian clone and we

1644
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:23,719
Speaker 8: need to get back to doing what work for us.

1645
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 8: When I talked to people here, I asked people in

1646
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 8: the seminar one day, how many of you came from

1647
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 8: the South? Seventy five percent? Rates at hands. I said, okay,

1648
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 8: how many you had an apartment a house ready for

1649
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,600
Speaker 8: you when you got here? And how many of you

1650
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 8: came and live with uck above and ain't lizard till

1651
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 8: you got your feet on the ground. They all raised

1652
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 8: a hand and I said, well why is it? They

1653
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 8: can't nobody stay with you?

1654
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 5: Now?

1655
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 8: You know I got everybody got to have their own room,

1656
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:55,679
Speaker 8: to own TV. That's why people are not talking.

1657
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 5: We didn't do it that way.

1658
01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 8: People had one TV in that room. If they didn't

1659
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 8: have a then everybody watching TV together, or they negotiated

1660
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:08,640
Speaker 8: who was going to watch this show. We are so

1661
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 8: separated and everything we do we want to do it alone.

1662
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:15,520
Speaker 8: We got to have our own church, our own partnershop,

1663
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 8: our own room, our own bathroom, our own car.

1664
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 5: When we all go.

1665
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 8: Into the same church and three of us driving a

1666
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:27,719
Speaker 8: different car. Folks, we need to change. And when most

1667
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 8: of all that, we want this generation to change, we

1668
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 8: have to get in that business. We have to show

1669
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 8: them the way you remember called the song Grandma's hand.

1670
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 8: You remember that well. When the song he said, Grandma

1671
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 8: would say, why you why you want to whoop that boy?

1672
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 8: What you want to whip him for? We better go

1673
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 8: back to get it in business. You need to get

1674
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 8: in your parents' business. Even when they're rearing your grandchildren's room.

1675
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 5: You think I don't, I did it. And you know what,

1676
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 5: my daughter loved me to death.

1677
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 8: She thanks me for everything because her sons was seven

1678
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 8: years in this age and different.

1679
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 5: The young boy was a manipulator.

1680
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:18,679
Speaker 8: His oldest song would play with him and his friends

1681
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 8: for so long, and then they said, well now we

1682
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 8: want to play this game by ourself. He would run

1683
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 8: and tell his mom crying when his friends come over,

1684
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 8: he won't play with me. She running room, Well, just

1685
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,760
Speaker 8: cut the game off if he can't play. They're none

1686
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 8: of y'all. Plus a hold up, they're different in the age.

1687
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 8: They don't want to do the same thing. This little

1688
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:41,639
Speaker 8: boy is a manipulator. I ran it down to her

1689
01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 8: and she began to see it and it made a different.

1690
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 5: Than those boys. I'm in their business. Y'all can do

1691
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:49,080
Speaker 5: what you want to.

1692
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 8: I haven't had to go to jail with none of them,

1693
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 8: not a grandkids, and they love me. They remind me

1694
01:30:57,120 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 8: of the things I said to them that change their lives. So, folks,

1695
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 8: that's what you want to do. You want your kids,

1696
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 8: your grandkids, to remember how you help them improve their lives,

1697
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 8: not remember you bought them a car, you took them

1698
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 8: to the movie, you took them on the trip. They

1699
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 8: want to remember a thing that was meaningful to them

1700
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 8: that they can carry.

1701
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:20,760
Speaker 5: It to the grave with them.

1702
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 8: Get in your children's business while you can now versus later,

1703
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 8: because if you don't get into a down car, you

1704
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:32,720
Speaker 8: may not get that chance to tell them what you

1705
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,640
Speaker 8: would think. And about telling them before they went to

1706
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:37,760
Speaker 8: jail or before you buried them.

1707
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Ald, that thought right there, that's sinking family

1708
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 1: far away from the top. We got to get caught

1709
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 1: up in the ladies' trafficing. We're a different cities before

1710
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 1: we go though, Paul and the London sent updated to

1711
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:53,599
Speaker 1: his tweeting. He says we need more like her Rosie

1712
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:55,880
Speaker 1: for president and she has a place here in the UK.

1713
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 1: So Paul appreciates what you're saying, and thanks Paul for

1714
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 1: always listening to us, always like sending us updates. So

1715
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:04,560
Speaker 1: what's going on in London and black folks in the

1716
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:06,720
Speaker 1: UK as imagined? We got to step aside get caught

1717
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 1: up in the ladies' trafficking weather in our different cities.

1718
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 1: You want to speak to doctor Rosie, reach out to

1719
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:14,599
Speaker 1: us at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy

1720
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:16,639
Speaker 1: six and we'll take your phone calls. Next and Grand

1721
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:18,479
Speaker 1: Rising family and moment Taryl are going to speak with

1722
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 1: their brother Tony Browner. It's got a new book out.

1723
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 1: He's going to share with us about his book. And

1724
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 1: before it's continuing a moment with doctor Rossie Milligan. Doctor Rosie,

1725
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 1: it says it's time to get into our children's business.

1726
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 1: Doctor Rosie, what age is there a cutoff time? Because

1727
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:36,680
Speaker 1: you're saying your daughter's growing now and you're still there.

1728
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 1: But what but you started early? What if a person

1729
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:43,719
Speaker 1: had not started early getting in the children's business?

1730
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 5: Is it too too late?

1731
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 8: Carl, It's never too late. They're always your children's longly

1732
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:50,599
Speaker 8: they live.

1733
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 5: See whatever we didn't do, make up start doing it.

1734
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:57,320
Speaker 5: You well, I didn't do it. I should have told

1735
01:32:57,400 --> 01:33:00,240
Speaker 5: them when they were young. You were young, and you

1736
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 5: don't know nothing to tell them. Okay, So the.

1737
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 8: Sooners you learn what need to be is my dad say, learnt?

1738
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 5: Then that's when you begin. You you start wherever you learn.

1739
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:15,679
Speaker 5: When you learn better, you do better.

1740
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 8: Carl, I want to mention just two books. I am

1741
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:21,000
Speaker 8: at I author thirty six books, but one I want

1742
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 8: to mention in particular today. It's the one called Preparing

1743
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 8: for Departing this Life. Preparing for Departing this Life is

1744
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 8: a very important five.

1745
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 5: Families, and the other one is what you need to.

1746
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:39,439
Speaker 8: Know before you get hitched? Before what you need to

1747
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 8: know before you get hitched. So you can go to

1748
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 8: Amazon and I'll see all thirty seven of the books

1749
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,720
Speaker 8: I've an author, or you can call my authors, or

1750
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:52,880
Speaker 8: go to my website. Dr Rosie dot com, Dr Rosi

1751
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:53,400
Speaker 8: dot com.

1752
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 5: Call me at three two three seven five oh three

1753
01:33:57,240 --> 01:34:00,720
Speaker 5: five nine two. That's three two three seven finds oh

1754
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:03,840
Speaker 5: three five nine two. So you really need to know,

1755
01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:06,560
Speaker 5: because Carl, who's telling people.

1756
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 8: What they need to preparation for the part in this life.

1757
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 8: How often do you hear people talk about you can't

1758
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 8: we prepare for coming into this life, and we got

1759
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:22,879
Speaker 8: to prepare for leaving folks. It is critical, more critical

1760
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:25,799
Speaker 8: now that we do it than ever because our families

1761
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 8: are losing too much in probate, kids falling out, being

1762
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 8: mad with each other. And if there ever was a

1763
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:39,720
Speaker 8: time that black folks, nick rose, colored people needed each other,

1764
01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:41,640
Speaker 8: if now called.

1765
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 1: I'm intrigued because I know you've you've read several books,

1766
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:48,200
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, But what about the book that talks

1767
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 1: to folks before they get hitched? A lot of people,

1768
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 1: you know, they don't get married these days. They's a

1769
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:54,720
Speaker 1: sort of shack up if you will. Do you get

1770
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:56,599
Speaker 1: into that in that book, doctor Rosie?

1771
01:34:57,439 --> 01:35:00,120
Speaker 8: Yes, And that's why Pam need to get in your

1772
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:04,840
Speaker 8: children's Look, baby, now you shocking you living with him.

1773
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 5: Your name is not on that house.

1774
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:11,559
Speaker 8: If he died tomorrow, If you in California, you get nothing.

1775
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 5: I don't care.

1776
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:16,160
Speaker 8: If you've been there forty years now you see this happening.

1777
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:18,800
Speaker 8: You ain't gonna tell your daughter, You ain't gonna talk

1778
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:21,160
Speaker 8: to them about it. You wanna talk to the husband

1779
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:23,800
Speaker 8: and wife. And luck now since you guys not married,

1780
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:27,879
Speaker 8: now something happened to you, My daughter gets nothing. Everything

1781
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:32,559
Speaker 8: go to your kids in the community, community state. God,

1782
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:35,160
Speaker 8: you see why I'm so past. I see it every

1783
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 8: day as an estate planner, I am looking at this

1784
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 8: country stuff. So yes, that's why you want to be

1785
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:52,400
Speaker 8: in that business. They transfer property, they voyage to keep

1786
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:55,720
Speaker 8: from going into a liability because somebody's gonna try to

1787
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 8: take what their wife have if they get sick.

1788
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 5: Black folks, you just don't know how. My heart just

1789
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 5: burns when I see what's happening to us.

1790
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 1: Call yeah, because I know this is what This is

1791
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:09,800
Speaker 1: another area that you're working and and this is real

1792
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:13,559
Speaker 1: for you. But when you tell these young sisters about

1793
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:18,040
Speaker 1: not shocking up, and they're already shocked that I already

1794
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 1: moved in with some dude, And what do you tell

1795
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:24,439
Speaker 1: them do you tell them, well, give it six months,

1796
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 1: give it the if. If there's no ring or no

1797
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 1: engagement or nothing moving towards marriage, you give them some

1798
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 1: time to really digest, or you just tell them straight

1799
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 1: up that you shouldn't have done that and move out.

1800
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:38,560
Speaker 5: It's straight up what you have to do and what

1801
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:41,439
Speaker 5: you need to know before you get hit. It helps

1802
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:43,760
Speaker 5: you to really qualify whether you need to be with

1803
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:48,320
Speaker 5: that person. Uh shack up on a marriage. In other words,

1804
01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:51,759
Speaker 5: whether you need to be a dating that person. Nobody

1805
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:55,960
Speaker 5: has given young people mirror. They haven't given them anything. Honey.

1806
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 8: Whoever, that's damn honey. If it don't work out, you

1807
01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:03,000
Speaker 8: know I didn't work I don't That's why half of

1808
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:06,799
Speaker 8: that's why we got so many had a household family,

1809
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:09,920
Speaker 8: and there's so many people that's married Carl. They in

1810
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:13,960
Speaker 8: search regret. They wish somebody had told them. They wish

1811
01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:18,640
Speaker 8: Mama had told them, but they thought mama relationship had

1812
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 8: always been so perfy. Mama didn't tell them all the

1813
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:24,439
Speaker 8: mistakes she made and what she wished she.

1814
01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 5: Had not done.

1815
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:29,639
Speaker 8: It's time to be honest, to be upfront. Yeah, we've

1816
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 8: been here forty years, but it's been rough. And hear

1817
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:35,720
Speaker 8: what happened. If I hadn't known this, I wouldn't have

1818
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 8: married this man. If I had known this, I wouldn't

1819
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 8: have had four kids with him. I wouldn't have had

1820
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 8: any kids.

1821
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 4: Folks.

1822
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 8: It's time to talk, That's all I'm saying. Card I said,

1823
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 8: you know, as the estate planner and community actressist. All

1824
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:52,879
Speaker 8: these years and being eighty years.

1825
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 5: Of age, I learned something along the.

1826
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 8: Way, and we need to start listening to our elders

1827
01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:01,200
Speaker 8: and we need to start talking. Don't try to make

1828
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:03,840
Speaker 8: that your marriage so perfect. Let your kids know the

1829
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 8: weeks it's the downfall, the things you did that made

1830
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 8: your marriage rough. If you had known what you would

1831
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:15,839
Speaker 8: have done differently. Stop hiding these secrets were destroying our families.

1832
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 5: This frind and you know, let me get straight.

1833
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 1: So you were saying that the absolutely those secrets at

1834
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:27,040
Speaker 1: all when it comes to the family in a marriage.

1835
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:30,840
Speaker 1: If someone cheated, someone was on drugs, did you share

1836
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:31,599
Speaker 1: that with the children?

1837
01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:34,960
Speaker 8: Yes, you need to share the alcoholics.

1838
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:36,639
Speaker 5: I'm glad you asked.

1839
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:40,600
Speaker 8: My girlfriend is on a mission right now because of

1840
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 8: all this sexual.

1841
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:44,040
Speaker 5: Molestation among families.

1842
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 8: She's creating ambassadors for each family to watch how to

1843
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:51,759
Speaker 8: protective family. If you know how could being is a predator,

1844
01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 8: then the whole family need to know. These secrets have

1845
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 8: caused our kids to be raped, molested and have damitated

1846
01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 8: life forever. You know, Uncle Ben, they molested six of

1847
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 8: the kids in the family and the other side of

1848
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:06,519
Speaker 8: the family.

1849
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:07,200
Speaker 5: Don't know it.

1850
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 8: These secrets got to go.

1851
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:13,080
Speaker 5: Yes, they gotta go. That's what's destroying.

1852
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 8: Think about a car. Think about the person who can

1853
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:20,720
Speaker 8: molested five people in their family and somebody know that

1854
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 8: they did the honey, don't We ain't gonna say that.

1855
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 8: We don't want to be shamed. But what about these kids?

1856
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:29,120
Speaker 8: You do not show it their life forever because you

1857
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:31,920
Speaker 8: don't want to be ashamed for a seventy five year

1858
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:37,880
Speaker 8: old grandpopper who molesting everybody in the family. Oh, you

1859
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:39,880
Speaker 8: got the blood bowing it because I see it.

1860
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:41,120
Speaker 5: It's pain from Paul.

1861
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:41,840
Speaker 4: I see it.

1862
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:44,280
Speaker 1: I know because this is some of your TV with

1863
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:47,560
Speaker 1: on a daily basis, Doctor Rose. Inst a topic for

1864
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:49,960
Speaker 1: another program when you come on. But again, before we

1865
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:52,000
Speaker 1: let you go, how can folks reach you? How can

1866
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:54,200
Speaker 1: they get your books? Because you got and all your

1867
01:39:54,200 --> 01:39:55,599
Speaker 1: books listed on your website.

1868
01:39:57,160 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, they all on my website. You know I did

1869
01:39:59,320 --> 01:39:59,679
Speaker 5: the books.

1870
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:02,800
Speaker 8: Sign a black man section, make simple, start to sign

1871
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 8: a black woman section made simple, while black men choose

1872
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:09,519
Speaker 8: white women. Folks, that's getting out of debt made simple.

1873
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:11,519
Speaker 5: Everything you basically you need to know.

1874
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 8: I like books to help people to improve that life. Okay,

1875
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 8: so it's important. You can call me at three two

1876
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:23,640
Speaker 8: three seventy five oh three five nine two. You can

1877
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:26,760
Speaker 8: go to doctor Rosa dot com and you will see

1878
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 8: a list of all of my books.

1879
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:31,760
Speaker 5: Dr Rosa dot com. Call three three seventy five oh

1880
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:34,439
Speaker 5: three five nine two. I'm asking you to get an

1881
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:37,800
Speaker 5: off of Facebook and put your faith in a book.

1882
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:42,439
Speaker 1: All right's your bookstore is still there down on Manchester, Helen,

1883
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:43,519
Speaker 1: it's still.

1884
01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 8: The expression a classic one book that fourteen twenty five

1885
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:52,240
Speaker 8: West Manchester Avenue in Los Angeles, California. And Carl, I

1886
01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:57,080
Speaker 8: appreciate you, and you know I am so passionate. You know,

1887
01:40:57,200 --> 01:40:59,439
Speaker 8: at my age, I see the young people going to

1888
01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:02,120
Speaker 8: Rome direction, I'll see the pants and saying when I

1889
01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:04,519
Speaker 8: ain't got nothing to do with make it bed hard.

1890
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:06,800
Speaker 8: I don't want my kids to make it hot being hat,

1891
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:08,760
Speaker 8: but I don't want them to have to lay in it.

1892
01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:12,360
Speaker 8: And you should want the same for you. Eighteen don't

1893
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:16,320
Speaker 8: mean a done thing. Stay in your children business, all right.

1894
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:19,000
Speaker 1: Thanks doctor Rosie, thank you for sharing your fulceness this

1895
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:21,479
Speaker 1: morning and and all the work that you've done over

1896
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 1: the years. Family. That's doctor ROSEI and Milligan. She's an author, publisher,

1897
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 1: is stay planning. She allays been also believes she didn't

1898
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:31,479
Speaker 1: mention it. Also believes she got to have several streams

1899
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:34,080
Speaker 1: of income. That's for another topic that we'll talk about

1900
01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:36,840
Speaker 1: with her. Eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight

1901
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:38,720
Speaker 1: seventy six, keep that number, Heney, you need for our

1902
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:42,320
Speaker 1: next guess what happens to be a chemtogis Brother Tony Browner,

1903
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:45,120
Speaker 1: Grand rising Brother Tony. Welcome back to the program.

1904
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 4: Okay, brother Carl, I'm glad to be back. And as

1905
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:52,680
Speaker 4: you notice, my voice is a little cracky. It'll get

1906
01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:55,519
Speaker 4: better in a minute, but I'm getting over cold, so

1907
01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 4: please bear with me and I'll make the most out

1908
01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:01,120
Speaker 4: of this opportunity we had together today.

1909
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:03,599
Speaker 1: All Right, we need some hot water and a lemon

1910
01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:05,400
Speaker 1: there to get you going, brother to I.

1911
01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:07,719
Speaker 4: Got that I got I've been looking at and Kevin.

1912
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:09,960
Speaker 4: Kevin told me a couple of couple of things to

1913
01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 4: do to get my vocal cords warmed up. So give

1914
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:14,640
Speaker 4: me five minutes and I'll be sounding a little bit

1915
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:15,719
Speaker 4: like my old self.

1916
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:19,519
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, Uh, you got some good news for us

1917
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:21,960
Speaker 1: with doctor j Doctor Lennon Jeffreys. How's he doing?

1918
01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:27,639
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I had a conversation with brother Jay Small

1919
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:30,560
Speaker 4: the other day two days ago, and uh, you know,

1920
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 4: we're just checking in and I asked him about doctor

1921
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 4: j and how he was doing, and he was giving

1922
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:42,920
Speaker 4: me lots of good news. Mentally, Doctor j is is

1923
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:44,080
Speaker 4: doing much better.

1924
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:48,719
Speaker 10: Uh you know, he still has some issues with dementia,

1925
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:53,720
Speaker 10: and he's been having some some physical issues because he

1926
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:55,000
Speaker 10: hasn't been very mobile.

1927
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:57,479
Speaker 4: And you know what happens with the elders when you're

1928
01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:01,479
Speaker 4: immobilized in bed for a while, you developed bed swords

1929
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:04,720
Speaker 4: and other complications. So he's going through that right now.

1930
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 4: But his attitude is much better. People are visiting him

1931
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:17,719
Speaker 4: regularly and just having visitors when you're in an environment,

1932
01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 4: a strange environment where you're doing recovery and what have you,

1933
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:28,200
Speaker 4: it boasters your spirits. So Brother James and the other

1934
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:31,360
Speaker 4: Sons of Africa are making him going to visit them regularly.

1935
01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:35,720
Speaker 4: And that's what's so critically important keeping one's spirits up.

1936
01:43:36,280 --> 01:43:41,320
Speaker 4: Doctor j and his wife's sister Roz are in their

1937
01:43:41,479 --> 01:43:46,960
Speaker 4: nineties now, and so they're moving slower and then moving towards.

1938
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:50,599
Speaker 4: To be honest with you, and I do appreciate your

1939
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:55,160
Speaker 4: peror guests, Doctor Rosie. She was on it, she was real,

1940
01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:58,600
Speaker 4: she was fire. And you know, we have to be

1941
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:01,639
Speaker 4: honest with ourselves. We have to be honest with our children,

1942
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 4: we have to be honest with our family members. No,

1943
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:10,799
Speaker 4: no one lives forever. And when someone like doctor Alenn

1944
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:15,639
Speaker 4: Jeffries and doctor Roz Jeffries are not in the best quality,

1945
01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:19,080
Speaker 4: when they're in decrining health, we have an obligation and

1946
01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:22,360
Speaker 4: the responsibility. If we love them, if we love what

1947
01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:25,599
Speaker 4: they live for, if we love what they dedicated their

1948
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 4: lives too, we should be there for them and not

1949
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:32,240
Speaker 4: just talk about what they did and how great their

1950
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:34,800
Speaker 4: works were. We need to be with them through thick

1951
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:39,680
Speaker 4: and thin. So it's important to keep them lifted up

1952
01:44:39,720 --> 01:44:44,200
Speaker 4: in your prayers. That's good, but to also support those

1953
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:49,599
Speaker 4: people who are making sure that they're checked on regularly

1954
01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:53,080
Speaker 4: and are in a good mental state of being. Because

1955
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:57,800
Speaker 4: most of what we experience in our lives, most of

1956
01:44:57,920 --> 01:45:02,000
Speaker 4: how we live our lives, is based on how we think.

1957
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 4: So if you're thinking from a depressed state, if you're

1958
01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 4: thinking that you're on love, then that affects you emotionally,

1959
01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:13,960
Speaker 4: it affects you mentally. And so if we love folks

1960
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:18,360
Speaker 4: Satday members, friends, scholars. If we love them, then we

1961
01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:21,719
Speaker 4: should check in with them, not just when they're doing well,

1962
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:25,479
Speaker 4: but when when when they're not doing well, when they're

1963
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:28,519
Speaker 4: when their health may be the priding and ask them,

1964
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:32,479
Speaker 4: you know, what they need. I recall listening to doctor

1965
01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:36,120
Speaker 4: Carr when he was in the prining health. I recall

1966
01:45:36,280 --> 01:45:39,960
Speaker 4: him saying in the lecture, you know, just call and

1967
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 4: check on me, ask me if I want some tea,

1968
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:46,560
Speaker 4: come over to the house and read to me. You know,

1969
01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:50,360
Speaker 4: he had gone blind in the last decade of his life,

1970
01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:53,439
Speaker 4: and he was a man, he was varicious reader, and

1971
01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:57,240
Speaker 4: so he couldn't read books and magazines as he used to.

1972
01:45:57,720 --> 01:46:00,439
Speaker 4: So folk would come by and just read to him

1973
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 4: for an hour. And I can't tell you what that

1974
01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:07,360
Speaker 4: meant to a man who devoted his life to lifting yourselp.

1975
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:10,960
Speaker 4: So there's always things that we can do, and we

1976
01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:15,800
Speaker 4: shouldn't wait until someone dies to say, oh, I wish

1977
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 4: I I had known this, I wish I'd done that,

1978
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:23,360
Speaker 4: And that same thought, that same desire should be extended

1979
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:27,920
Speaker 4: not just to our scholars or high profile personalities, it

1980
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:31,000
Speaker 4: should be extended to people in your own household. As

1981
01:46:31,080 --> 01:46:34,919
Speaker 4: doctor Rosie was saying. It should be extended to your neighbors,

1982
01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:41,360
Speaker 4: your neighbors across the street who may need their sidewalks

1983
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:45,000
Speaker 4: shoveled if it's snowing, may need help bringing the garbage

1984
01:46:45,040 --> 01:46:48,720
Speaker 4: cans in. These are things that we can do for

1985
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 4: each other because they affirm our humanity and they bring

1986
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:57,680
Speaker 4: us closer together as human beings. As advocates, we are

1987
01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:02,719
Speaker 4: social people. That that is our essence, that is our nature.

1988
01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:06,400
Speaker 4: And you know, I truly appreciated what doctor Rosie was

1989
01:47:06,439 --> 01:47:10,599
Speaker 4: saying about. You know, people living in the same house

1990
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:14,720
Speaker 4: and they're in their own room, on their telephone, watching television,

1991
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:18,720
Speaker 4: playing video games, and nobody's communicating. So it's one of

1992
01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:22,320
Speaker 4: the issues that we're having in our lives, in our

1993
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:27,680
Speaker 4: families and in our communities is that we've allowed technology

1994
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:33,280
Speaker 4: to replace one on one communications, so that so many

1995
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:37,600
Speaker 4: young people now do not know how to communicate with

1996
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 4: another adult, don't know how to communicate with their peers,

1997
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:45,400
Speaker 4: and so we as adults, and specifically we as elders,

1998
01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:48,639
Speaker 4: we have to model that. We can't just tell them

1999
01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:51,200
Speaker 4: put that phone down, you know, don't do this, don't

2000
01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:55,720
Speaker 4: do that, engage them in conversation, right, find ways to

2001
01:47:56,280 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 4: get them to listen and encourage them to have common faces,

2002
01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:05,280
Speaker 4: congratulate them, compliment them, and bring them out of their

2003
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:09,600
Speaker 4: shell and let them understand the value of human to

2004
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:13,360
Speaker 4: human contact. That's all right there, brother Tony.

2005
01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, hold, I thought right. We got to step aside

2006
01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:16,920
Speaker 1: a few moments and we'll be back. Man and grand

2007
01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:19,479
Speaker 1: Rising family. Thanks for staying with us on this Thursday morning.

2008
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:22,400
Speaker 1: I guess it's chematologist, brother Tony Browner. If you've got

2009
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:24,439
Speaker 1: a couple of friends, call him up right now, right

2010
01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:26,320
Speaker 1: now and tell them turn on the radio. They'll thank you.

2011
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:29,120
Speaker 1: Telling the chemotologist Tony brown is on the radio. They're

2012
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:31,080
Speaker 1: going to learn a lot and they'll appreciate it. They'll

2013
01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:33,800
Speaker 1: thank you for it. But brother Tony's he suited up

2014
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:37,200
Speaker 1: and ready to go, but he's playing injured this this morning,

2015
01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:39,080
Speaker 1: so he's got to be an issue with his voice.

2016
01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:41,679
Speaker 1: But he'll get better as we go on. So, brother Tony,

2017
01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:44,960
Speaker 1: let's get you. You decided to write another book a

2018
01:48:45,040 --> 01:48:47,559
Speaker 1: broader perspective. Can you tell us about the book? Why

2019
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:49,760
Speaker 1: you decided to do this issue this book at this point?

2020
01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:54,400
Speaker 4: For sure? Well call again. I apologize to your listeners.

2021
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 4: I'm a little horse now. But I'm feeling good. The

2022
01:48:57,360 --> 01:49:00,920
Speaker 4: brain is working and so just bear with me as

2023
01:49:01,120 --> 01:49:05,559
Speaker 4: I had this conversation with Carl this morning. Yeah, Car,

2024
01:49:05,720 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 4: I just finished My latest book is at the printer

2025
01:49:10,120 --> 01:49:15,040
Speaker 4: now and we'll be available within the next three weeks.

2026
01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:17,960
Speaker 4: I was on the phone with my printer, Paul Coast

2027
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:20,639
Speaker 4: the Black Class of Press, last night, and we're working

2028
01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:23,840
Speaker 4: out the timeline for the production of the book and

2029
01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:27,400
Speaker 4: when it should be in bookstores. So this book is

2030
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:32,640
Speaker 4: the third installment of Broader Foul Essays. I wrote the

2031
01:49:32,680 --> 01:49:37,400
Speaker 4: first Brouder Foul in nineteen eighty nine. Broader Foul two,

2032
01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:42,320
Speaker 4: The Bible Strategies for Africans in America, was published in

2033
01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:47,920
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety five, and this is my third installment of

2034
01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:50,720
Speaker 4: Broader Foul Essays. So it's hard to believe that it's

2035
01:49:50,760 --> 01:49:55,719
Speaker 4: been thirty years since I published my last major book.

2036
01:49:55,960 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 4: Now I've done some smaller books since then. I've done

2037
01:49:59,320 --> 01:50:02,760
Speaker 4: a couple bounds graphs. Egypt on the Potomac is the monograph,

2038
01:50:03,400 --> 01:50:06,439
Speaker 4: The Avatar Piece is the monograph, and the last one

2039
01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:10,720
Speaker 4: I did was finding could recommend a book about my

2040
01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:14,920
Speaker 4: excavations with the aster restoration project. So those are smaller

2041
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:18,880
Speaker 4: books one hundred pages or less. This book is me

2042
01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:23,360
Speaker 4: going back to my source, me doing what I do best,

2043
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:27,080
Speaker 4: and that is looking at history, looking at current events,

2044
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:34,920
Speaker 4: and extrapolating from that analysis important, critically important information that

2045
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 4: will help us understand where we are, how we got

2046
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:40,720
Speaker 4: where we are, and what we can do better. So

2047
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:46,040
Speaker 4: the book is titled A Broader Perspective, and the subtitle

2048
01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:50,240
Speaker 4: of the book is My fifty year Journey to Enlightenment.

2049
01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:53,800
Speaker 4: So what I'm doing now is looking back on the

2050
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:57,760
Speaker 4: last fifty years of my life. Carl, I'm now officially

2051
01:50:57,960 --> 01:51:02,280
Speaker 4: and undeniably an elder. I'm seventy four years old, and

2052
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:07,760
Speaker 4: as I reflect on my life, I see now where

2053
01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:12,800
Speaker 4: this journey really began, back in nineteen seventy five, when

2054
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:16,680
Speaker 4: I met a brother here in Washington, d C. A

2055
01:51:16,840 --> 01:51:20,560
Speaker 4: brother by the name of nanaquab and a Brown. Nnicaban

2056
01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:24,599
Speaker 4: O Brown is an acind priest and he was one

2057
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:28,160
Speaker 4: of the first people in the DMV to bring the

2058
01:51:28,240 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 4: Akine traditions from Ghana, West Africa and introduce him to

2059
01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:37,760
Speaker 4: the Washington, Washington, DC community. Well, I just graduated from

2060
01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:41,800
Speaker 4: Howard in nineteen seventy four and like many people in

2061
01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:45,639
Speaker 4: their early twenties, I hadn't figured out what I wanted

2062
01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:47,920
Speaker 4: to do with my life. I hadn't even figured out

2063
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:51,720
Speaker 4: who I was as a person. And a friend of

2064
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:55,439
Speaker 4: mine told me that there was this man in Southeast

2065
01:51:55,560 --> 01:52:00,200
Speaker 4: DC who was doing classes on African spirituality. I was

2066
01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:03,759
Speaker 4: non a carpent the Brown and I attended is seven

2067
01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:07,600
Speaker 4: week class on African spirituality. And at the end of

2068
01:52:07,680 --> 01:52:12,040
Speaker 4: that seven weeks, I now had a black print for

2069
01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:15,240
Speaker 4: my life and now who I knew who I was

2070
01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:20,600
Speaker 4: as a person of African ancestry. I understood African spirituality

2071
01:52:21,080 --> 01:52:26,920
Speaker 4: and the differences between African spirituality and traditional religions. There

2072
01:52:26,920 --> 01:52:33,479
Speaker 4: are fundamental differences. Also learned about African concepts of life

2073
01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 4: after death, which entails the ancestors and acknowledging those souls

2074
01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:43,559
Speaker 4: who have preceded you and are now on the other side,

2075
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:48,080
Speaker 4: but who are still accessible to you. Those are our ancestors.

2076
01:52:48,479 --> 01:52:53,800
Speaker 4: And then he also impressed me with this concept that

2077
01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:58,040
Speaker 4: we refer to in the West as reincarnation, But what

2078
01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:01,679
Speaker 4: was known in the now Valley is the ghimi mitsu,

2079
01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 4: or of what was referred to as the repetition of

2080
01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:08,640
Speaker 4: the birth. So this idea of this concept, Carl, if

2081
01:53:08,680 --> 01:53:12,720
Speaker 4: you will that the body is tipperary, The body is finite.

2082
01:53:13,040 --> 01:53:17,480
Speaker 4: It only lives and moves and functions for a presquaed

2083
01:53:17,560 --> 01:53:22,799
Speaker 4: period of time and then you die. But the body

2084
01:53:23,479 --> 01:53:29,120
Speaker 4: is animated by different forces and ink in the Nile

2085
01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:33,000
Speaker 4: Valley in Cuse they identify these forces the bay, the car,

2086
01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:38,080
Speaker 4: the covey, it, the wren, the shadow, the name, and

2087
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:42,479
Speaker 4: these are all aspects of your being that continue to exist.

2088
01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:47,479
Speaker 4: Because as we know, if we study science, energy does

2089
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:52,200
Speaker 4: not just dissipate. It changes form, but it doesn't just dissipate.

2090
01:53:52,640 --> 01:53:56,320
Speaker 4: So our bodies disintegrate and return back into the earth

2091
01:53:56,720 --> 01:54:02,160
Speaker 4: and form new bodies are So when our body is

2092
01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:06,679
Speaker 4: no longer attached to a soul, that soul goes back

2093
01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:11,839
Speaker 4: to that ram, that dimension of timelessness with souls reside.

2094
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:16,519
Speaker 4: Spirit is the power that is associated with the creative force,

2095
01:54:16,640 --> 01:54:19,960
Speaker 4: the creative principles that we call God or our law

2096
01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:24,160
Speaker 4: of Jemoba, and that is a force to permeate the universe,

2097
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:27,840
Speaker 4: and it animates the soul and gives the soul the

2098
01:54:28,160 --> 01:54:32,200
Speaker 4: energy to express itself inside of a body. So once

2099
01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:36,880
Speaker 4: I had a clearer understanding of who I was as

2100
01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:41,520
Speaker 4: a being with multiple beings inside of me. It gave

2101
01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:45,320
Speaker 4: me an understanding of what I had the capacity to do.

2102
01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:48,160
Speaker 4: And at the end of that course, now Nicubin has

2103
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:50,920
Speaker 4: said something to stay with me for the rest of

2104
01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:53,560
Speaker 4: my life. He said that what you do with this

2105
01:54:53,840 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 4: knowledge were not only determine the quality of this life,

2106
01:54:58,600 --> 01:55:02,000
Speaker 4: but it ultimately would determine the quality of the rest

2107
01:55:02,160 --> 01:55:05,440
Speaker 4: of your lives, right the rest of your lives. So

2108
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:07,880
Speaker 4: when you think about it in that context, you know,

2109
01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:11,160
Speaker 4: if we do come back, and we do, then the

2110
01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:15,280
Speaker 4: things that we think, stay and do in this lifetime

2111
01:55:15,680 --> 01:55:18,240
Speaker 4: will shape the quality of the lives that we will

2112
01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:22,640
Speaker 4: experience in future lifetimes. So once I got that, Once

2113
01:55:22,720 --> 01:55:27,600
Speaker 4: I understood that, then that knowledge forced me to do right.

2114
01:55:28,160 --> 01:55:31,200
Speaker 4: Not because I was afraid of going to hell, but

2115
01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:34,720
Speaker 4: not because I wanted to live eternity in heaven, but

2116
01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:38,480
Speaker 4: because I understood that heaven and Hell our states of

2117
01:55:38,640 --> 01:55:42,520
Speaker 4: being here on planet Earth, and that if I understood

2118
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:47,840
Speaker 4: how this energy expresses itself, then I could experience heaven

2119
01:55:48,160 --> 01:55:51,680
Speaker 4: here on Earth, while those who did not understand these

2120
01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:56,080
Speaker 4: principles would be walking in hell every single day. So

2121
01:55:56,200 --> 01:56:00,240
Speaker 4: this knowledge gave me a footing if you will, for

2122
01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:02,600
Speaker 4: how I should live my life. And what's so important

2123
01:56:02,680 --> 01:56:05,360
Speaker 4: CAR is that I was a child who grew up

2124
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:10,840
Speaker 4: loving our knowledge, loving education, reading, and I learned nothing

2125
01:56:10,880 --> 01:56:14,320
Speaker 4: about this throughout my formal education process. When I was

2126
01:56:14,440 --> 01:56:17,360
Speaker 4: young in Chicago, I went to church with my grandmother.

2127
01:56:17,600 --> 01:56:20,520
Speaker 4: I learned nothing about this in the church. When I

2128
01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:24,120
Speaker 4: was at Howard University players of paternity, I learned nothing

2129
01:56:24,200 --> 01:56:27,360
Speaker 4: at this in the paternity. So I began to realize

2130
01:56:27,600 --> 01:56:30,840
Speaker 4: that there is knowledge out here that is crucial to

2131
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:35,960
Speaker 4: our ability to live and function as dynamic human beings

2132
01:56:36,280 --> 01:56:39,320
Speaker 4: that has never been a part of our formal educational process.

2133
01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:42,000
Speaker 4: But that knowledge is there, and we have to know

2134
01:56:42,200 --> 01:56:45,000
Speaker 4: that it exists, and we have to be fearless enough.

2135
01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:47,600
Speaker 4: We have to be courageous enough to be able to

2136
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:51,800
Speaker 4: seek that knowledge and then incorporate it into our lives,

2137
01:56:52,480 --> 01:56:56,080
Speaker 4: use what is meaningful and helpful, and that then allows

2138
01:56:56,240 --> 01:57:00,040
Speaker 4: us to model what it means to be human, to

2139
01:57:00,160 --> 01:57:02,400
Speaker 4: be an example for other people. And the last thing

2140
01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:07,240
Speaker 4: I'll say about my initial meeting with Nonicuavana Brown was

2141
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:11,240
Speaker 4: that he had a pretty extensive library, and as I

2142
01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:16,839
Speaker 4: was perusing his library, I saw this book that captured

2143
01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:20,760
Speaker 4: my attention. The book was written by an author by

2144
01:57:20,840 --> 01:57:23,520
Speaker 4: the name of Peter Tompkins, and it was called The

2145
01:57:23,680 --> 01:57:27,200
Speaker 4: Secrets of the Great Pyramid. I borrowed that book from

2146
01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:31,720
Speaker 4: Nicuavana Brown, and it was that book that first got

2147
01:57:31,800 --> 01:57:36,120
Speaker 4: me interested in in ancient Egypt. And so I have

2148
01:57:36,320 --> 01:57:40,560
Speaker 4: not stopped reading and traveling in Egypt since I opened

2149
01:57:40,600 --> 01:57:43,040
Speaker 4: that book. So I can reflect on my life, I

2150
01:57:43,120 --> 01:57:48,120
Speaker 4: can reflect back to nineteen seventy five when I met

2151
01:57:48,200 --> 01:57:51,400
Speaker 4: this man who changed my life and put me on

2152
01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:55,680
Speaker 4: the path that has allowed me to favorably influence the

2153
01:57:55,840 --> 01:57:59,440
Speaker 4: lives of tens of thousands of people all around the world.

2154
01:58:00,040 --> 01:58:04,120
Speaker 4: So the rest of the book deals with my experiences.

2155
01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:08,080
Speaker 4: It deals with the other notable personalities who I have

2156
01:58:08,200 --> 01:58:11,800
Speaker 4: been blessed to encounter, who I've been blessed to have

2157
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:18,160
Speaker 4: learned from. And I am a vessel which contains the

2158
01:58:18,320 --> 01:58:23,000
Speaker 4: knowledge of scholars, of elders, of people that I love.

2159
01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:25,960
Speaker 4: They poured that knowledge into me. And now that I

2160
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:30,280
Speaker 4: am an elder, I am encountering younger people, people in

2161
01:58:30,360 --> 01:58:35,000
Speaker 4: their thirties, forties, and fifties, who've read my books, who've

2162
01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:38,480
Speaker 4: attended my lectures, and they're now coming to me asking

2163
01:58:38,560 --> 01:58:42,840
Speaker 4: me for advice, seeking direction, and seeking insights. So this

2164
01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:47,680
Speaker 4: book a broader perspective allows me an opportunity to honor

2165
01:58:47,800 --> 01:58:51,480
Speaker 4: those sisters and brothers who are no longer here who

2166
01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:55,440
Speaker 4: poured themselves into me, and I can share their knowledge

2167
01:58:55,640 --> 01:58:59,000
Speaker 4: with other young sisters and brothers who are looking for

2168
01:58:59,680 --> 01:59:02,520
Speaker 4: a a black trend, if you will, to how they

2169
01:59:02,560 --> 01:59:05,200
Speaker 4: can best live their lives so that they can be

2170
01:59:05,440 --> 01:59:10,120
Speaker 4: fully functioning human beings and make contributions to themselves, to

2171
01:59:10,280 --> 01:59:14,600
Speaker 4: their families and their communities. And Carl, I would like

2172
01:59:14,680 --> 01:59:18,800
Speaker 4: to thank you publicly. Thank you for writing the forward

2173
01:59:19,520 --> 01:59:25,320
Speaker 4: to this book and just affirming the value that I

2174
01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:29,600
Speaker 4: have sought to share with our community. So, my brother,

2175
01:59:29,760 --> 01:59:32,760
Speaker 4: thank you so much. And I look forward to other

2176
01:59:32,840 --> 01:59:37,200
Speaker 4: opportunities to discuss the book once it's available and have

2177
01:59:37,400 --> 01:59:40,880
Speaker 4: others share with you and share with others what they've

2178
01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:41,920
Speaker 4: learned from this read.

2179
01:59:42,800 --> 01:59:44,560
Speaker 1: All right at twenty eight away from the topic, I

2180
01:59:44,680 --> 01:59:47,400
Speaker 1: want to thank you because Tony, you're a national treasure.

2181
01:59:47,440 --> 01:59:49,800
Speaker 1: Whenever you're on the radio, I gets so much responsible

2182
01:59:49,840 --> 01:59:52,600
Speaker 1: people calling and all this please with what they hear

2183
01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:54,640
Speaker 1: from you. So I got to ask you this question

2184
01:59:54,680 --> 01:59:56,600
Speaker 1: because a couple of weeks ago, we had this discussion

2185
01:59:56,680 --> 02:00:00,040
Speaker 1: on the air about is there a God? And I

2186
02:00:00,040 --> 02:00:02,320
Speaker 1: don't know if you heard the discussion, but some people

2187
02:00:02,360 --> 02:00:06,760
Speaker 1: say they're more confused than before the discussions started about

2188
02:00:06,800 --> 02:00:10,560
Speaker 1: whether if there is a deity, that somebody is superior

2189
02:00:10,720 --> 02:00:13,840
Speaker 1: being other than us. Can you answer that question for

2190
02:00:13,960 --> 02:00:18,720
Speaker 1: some of our folks who are in that area, Sure, sure, sure.

2191
02:00:18,840 --> 02:00:23,960
Speaker 4: So let's just let us be honest with ourselves and

2192
02:00:24,120 --> 02:00:28,000
Speaker 4: let us be honest with the question. It's an excellent question,

2193
02:00:28,400 --> 02:00:30,600
Speaker 4: and we have to be honest with how we unpacked

2194
02:00:30,920 --> 02:00:36,440
Speaker 4: that question. Everything we know about God came from someone else,

2195
02:00:37,320 --> 02:00:40,960
Speaker 4: and they acquired that knowledge from someone else, and so

2196
02:00:41,120 --> 02:00:42,920
Speaker 4: you can go back, you can go back, you can

2197
02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:47,320
Speaker 4: go back. And every person who talks about God talks

2198
02:00:47,360 --> 02:00:50,880
Speaker 4: about books that were written by people that they never knew.

2199
02:00:51,320 --> 02:00:54,920
Speaker 4: And in these books people have written about a voice

2200
02:00:55,000 --> 02:00:59,600
Speaker 4: that came to them or a mysterious being that appeared

2201
02:00:59,640 --> 02:01:03,960
Speaker 4: to them a vision or in a burning bush. So

2202
02:01:04,920 --> 02:01:09,200
Speaker 4: we know, if we're honest with ourselves, that nobody, nobody

2203
02:01:09,240 --> 02:01:11,720
Speaker 4: who is honest with you can tell you that they've

2204
02:01:11,760 --> 02:01:15,600
Speaker 4: ever seen God. Right, So God is a concept, and

2205
02:01:15,720 --> 02:01:18,760
Speaker 4: that's one of the things that doctor Ben often talked

2206
02:01:18,760 --> 02:01:22,440
Speaker 4: about and God them in trouble. Some people got angry

2207
02:01:22,480 --> 02:01:25,320
Speaker 4: with them for saying that. But let's be real. God

2208
02:01:25,480 --> 02:01:28,000
Speaker 4: is the concept. As a matter of fact, word God

2209
02:01:28,480 --> 02:01:34,440
Speaker 4: is a German word. Every culture in every nation around

2210
02:01:34,520 --> 02:01:39,320
Speaker 4: the world has their own concepts for this invisible presence

2211
02:01:39,640 --> 02:01:42,240
Speaker 4: which some people refer to as God, which some people

2212
02:01:42,400 --> 02:01:44,920
Speaker 4: refer to our lives, which some people referred to as

2213
02:01:44,920 --> 02:01:47,640
Speaker 4: the Holy Ghost or the Spirit. So if we can

2214
02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:51,000
Speaker 4: just step back and look at it from that perspective,

2215
02:01:51,400 --> 02:01:55,120
Speaker 4: then there are forces out here in this multiverse that

2216
02:01:55,320 --> 02:02:00,840
Speaker 4: extend beyond the human brain's capacity to comprehend. That is real.

2217
02:02:01,360 --> 02:02:05,280
Speaker 4: That is real, and so people have made a living,

2218
02:02:05,920 --> 02:02:10,120
Speaker 4: people have made a fortune trying to describe what this

2219
02:02:10,440 --> 02:02:13,880
Speaker 4: unseen presence is. That's what religions are all about. So,

2220
02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:17,840
Speaker 4: if we're honest with ourselves, if there's only one God,

2221
02:02:18,520 --> 02:02:21,280
Speaker 4: and then let's just huge Christianity for an example, since

2222
02:02:21,320 --> 02:02:24,320
Speaker 4: we live in a Christian nation. If there's only one God,

2223
02:02:24,640 --> 02:02:27,560
Speaker 4: then why are there so many different Bibles? Why are

2224
02:02:27,600 --> 02:02:31,040
Speaker 4: there so many different versions of this God's story? Why

2225
02:02:31,040 --> 02:02:34,560
Speaker 4: are there so many churches? Why are there so many denominations?

2226
02:02:34,880 --> 02:02:39,200
Speaker 4: The presence of all these different interpretations means that no

2227
02:02:39,360 --> 02:02:43,520
Speaker 4: one clearly has an understanding of what God is or

2228
02:02:43,760 --> 02:02:47,960
Speaker 4: how God expresses itself. But the critical thing is that

2229
02:02:48,360 --> 02:02:53,720
Speaker 4: every being, every people have a need to acknowledge an

2230
02:02:53,880 --> 02:02:59,400
Speaker 4: unseen force that is greater than themselves. That's real, that's

2231
02:02:59,440 --> 02:03:02,320
Speaker 4: something that is a part of our psychological nature. And

2232
02:03:02,440 --> 02:03:06,240
Speaker 4: so what has happened within traditional religion is because of

2233
02:03:06,320 --> 02:03:10,040
Speaker 4: the fact that we live in a male dominated society,

2234
02:03:10,720 --> 02:03:15,720
Speaker 4: God is portrayed as a man, and more specifically, because

2235
02:03:15,800 --> 02:03:20,520
Speaker 4: we live in a white, male dominated culture, God is

2236
02:03:20,640 --> 02:03:25,720
Speaker 4: presented as a white man with a long flowing beard. Now,

2237
02:03:26,200 --> 02:03:29,240
Speaker 4: if white people represent less than ten percent of the

2238
02:03:29,320 --> 02:03:32,560
Speaker 4: world's population, and if you travel to other parts of

2239
02:03:32,600 --> 02:03:36,240
Speaker 4: the world, as Ronoko Ushidi did, as Wayne Chandler did,

2240
02:03:36,560 --> 02:03:40,240
Speaker 4: as other scholars did, and talked to other people about

2241
02:03:40,320 --> 02:03:44,480
Speaker 4: their concepts of God, this unseen Creator, than what you

2242
02:03:44,520 --> 02:03:47,400
Speaker 4: will find is that in all of these other cultures,

2243
02:03:47,880 --> 02:03:52,040
Speaker 4: all of these people identify a creator who looks like them,

2244
02:03:52,760 --> 02:03:57,480
Speaker 4: a creator who comes from their own personal and cultural experiences.

2245
02:03:57,840 --> 02:04:02,680
Speaker 4: But the reason why Africans in America clinging to this vision,

2246
02:04:03,160 --> 02:04:07,480
Speaker 4: this perception of a blonde hair, blue eyed Jesus is

2247
02:04:07,560 --> 02:04:13,000
Speaker 4: because we were enslaved by white people who created this myth,

2248
02:04:13,520 --> 02:04:17,840
Speaker 4: this lie of a blonde hair, blue eye Jesus. I

2249
02:04:17,960 --> 02:04:21,160
Speaker 4: called last week, last Thursday. If I'm not mistaken, you

2250
02:04:21,240 --> 02:04:23,640
Speaker 4: had a brother from the uk or who had written

2251
02:04:23,680 --> 02:04:26,920
Speaker 4: a book about the slave ship Jesus. And this is

2252
02:04:26,960 --> 02:04:31,520
Speaker 4: an intelligent, articulate brother who is a Christian, who did

2253
02:04:31,600 --> 02:04:35,200
Speaker 4: his research and he showed the extent to which the

2254
02:04:35,400 --> 02:04:41,680
Speaker 4: Queen of England was responsible in creating all of the

2255
02:04:41,800 --> 02:04:49,680
Speaker 4: business institutions responsible for industrializing slavery and made it possible

2256
02:04:50,160 --> 02:04:53,760
Speaker 4: for tens of millions of asking men, women and children

2257
02:04:53,840 --> 02:04:56,760
Speaker 4: to be stolen and to be enslaved in the name

2258
02:04:57,000 --> 02:05:00,440
Speaker 4: of God. Now those actions ended up them said, are

2259
02:05:00,720 --> 02:05:04,800
Speaker 4: un godly. So we have to understand by giving that reality,

2260
02:05:05,320 --> 02:05:09,040
Speaker 4: some people still find it necessary to cling to their

2261
02:05:09,160 --> 02:05:12,200
Speaker 4: oppressor's concepts of God.

2262
02:05:12,560 --> 02:05:14,760
Speaker 1: Because right and hold that thought right there, brother Tony,

2263
02:05:14,880 --> 02:05:16,440
Speaker 1: I let you finish your thought on there. Sorry to

2264
02:05:16,440 --> 02:05:19,560
Speaker 1: step away for a few moments. Interesting perspective about God.

2265
02:05:19,680 --> 02:05:22,600
Speaker 1: It all started a few weeks ago. Family, You remember

2266
02:05:22,640 --> 02:05:25,800
Speaker 1: the discussions, and I mentioned I asked brother Tony the

2267
02:05:25,880 --> 02:05:28,600
Speaker 1: question because one of the people who were discussing, he says, man,

2268
02:05:28,680 --> 02:05:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm still confused. I'm more confused than ever. It fears

2269
02:05:31,600 --> 02:05:33,760
Speaker 1: a god. So Tony's breaking it down for us. You

2270
02:05:33,840 --> 02:05:36,680
Speaker 1: want to join this conversation, reach out to him at

2271
02:05:36,680 --> 02:05:40,000
Speaker 1: eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six,

2272
02:05:40,040 --> 02:05:42,320
Speaker 1: and we'll take all your phone calls. Next and Grand

2273
02:05:42,400 --> 02:05:44,640
Speaker 1: Rising Family thanks to staying with us on this Thursday

2274
02:05:44,680 --> 02:05:46,840
Speaker 1: Morney with our guess that chematologists is that brother Tony

2275
02:05:46,880 --> 02:05:48,440
Speaker 1: Brown has got a new book out. That's what we're

2276
02:05:48,480 --> 02:05:50,600
Speaker 1: talking about. I'm also talking about the fact that is

2277
02:05:50,680 --> 02:05:53,240
Speaker 1: there a god. We had this discussion earlier this week

2278
02:05:53,440 --> 02:05:55,800
Speaker 1: of a few weeks ago about of there guidance I mentioned.

2279
02:05:55,840 --> 02:05:58,200
Speaker 1: One of the folks who started discussion says he's more

2280
02:05:58,240 --> 02:06:01,120
Speaker 1: confused now than ever after hearing it. Everybody's this is

2281
02:06:01,360 --> 02:06:03,240
Speaker 1: if there is a god. So we got a brother

2282
02:06:03,320 --> 02:06:05,520
Speaker 1: Tony here to break that down for us. Before we

2283
02:06:05,600 --> 02:06:06,920
Speaker 1: go back to him, I just want to remind you

2284
02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:08,840
Speaker 1: tomorrow is open for on Friday, We're gonna give you

2285
02:06:08,840 --> 02:06:10,840
Speaker 1: a chance to free your mind, think for yourself, that's

2286
02:06:10,880 --> 02:06:13,000
Speaker 1: all that means, and reach out to us starting at

2287
02:06:13,000 --> 02:06:15,840
Speaker 1: six am Eastern time right here in Baltimore on ten

2288
02:06:15,960 --> 02:06:19,360
Speaker 1: ten WLB and also in the DMV here I'm fourteen

2289
02:06:19,440 --> 02:06:23,840
Speaker 1: fifty WL. And the person bro the London attorney that

2290
02:06:25,000 --> 02:06:28,320
Speaker 1: Brother Tony mentioned was a fellow my name of Deli

2291
02:06:28,680 --> 02:06:31,880
Speaker 1: a Gun. Deli a Gun. He wrote that book I

2292
02:06:31,960 --> 02:06:34,680
Speaker 1: thought a slave ship called Jesus. And you can get

2293
02:06:34,720 --> 02:06:36,360
Speaker 1: the copy of that book and see what he's talking about.

2294
02:06:36,400 --> 02:06:38,360
Speaker 1: But brother Tony, I let you finish your thought. Is

2295
02:06:38,440 --> 02:06:39,040
Speaker 1: there a God?

2296
02:06:40,200 --> 02:06:45,880
Speaker 4: Sure? And so Carl is I share my comments. Let

2297
02:06:45,920 --> 02:06:50,520
Speaker 4: me be clear, I'm not saying these words to disparage

2298
02:06:50,640 --> 02:06:55,880
Speaker 4: anybody's religion, because everybody has the right to have their

2299
02:06:56,000 --> 02:06:59,240
Speaker 4: own relationship with the Creator, however they interpret their Creator.

2300
02:07:00,040 --> 02:07:03,760
Speaker 4: Not disparaging anybody, because we all need something in our lives,

2301
02:07:03,840 --> 02:07:07,520
Speaker 4: something to hold on to, something that gives us faith

2302
02:07:07,560 --> 02:07:09,880
Speaker 4: if you will, and the courage to keep fighting. So

2303
02:07:10,280 --> 02:07:14,560
Speaker 4: I'm not disparaging that. So please don't misinterpret what I'm saying.

2304
02:07:15,000 --> 02:07:17,960
Speaker 4: What I'm saying is I have an inquisitive mind. I

2305
02:07:18,080 --> 02:07:21,000
Speaker 4: grew up in the church my grandmother. My grandmother was

2306
02:07:21,080 --> 02:07:23,600
Speaker 4: the most religious person I ever met in my life,

2307
02:07:23,800 --> 02:07:26,560
Speaker 4: and I love her to life. But what I found

2308
02:07:26,640 --> 02:07:29,360
Speaker 4: when I went to church is that she couldn't answer

2309
02:07:29,480 --> 02:07:32,720
Speaker 4: basic questions. You know, as a child growing up, she

2310
02:07:32,880 --> 02:07:36,480
Speaker 4: had one of these old big Bibles that our grandparents

2311
02:07:36,560 --> 02:07:40,720
Speaker 4: had with pictures of white Jesus and white angels and

2312
02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:43,560
Speaker 4: white So I asked my grandmother, why is everybody in

2313
02:07:43,600 --> 02:07:46,240
Speaker 4: the Bible white? She said, well, baby, that doesn't matter.

2314
02:07:46,400 --> 02:07:48,800
Speaker 4: The color doesn't matter. But I went to church with her.

2315
02:07:49,240 --> 02:07:52,040
Speaker 4: I saw things going on with the church that as

2316
02:07:52,080 --> 02:07:55,240
Speaker 4: a child I knew wasn't right. The pastor was having

2317
02:07:55,280 --> 02:07:59,200
Speaker 4: a relationship with his deacons wife. There were things going

2318
02:07:59,240 --> 02:08:02,200
Speaker 4: on that I knew who wasn't right. And so if

2319
02:08:02,240 --> 02:08:04,000
Speaker 4: the church is supposed to be the house of God,

2320
02:08:04,120 --> 02:08:07,400
Speaker 4: I saw these contradictions. So I began to question things,

2321
02:08:07,800 --> 02:08:10,320
Speaker 4: and I began to step away from the church because

2322
02:08:10,360 --> 02:08:13,400
Speaker 4: it wasn't what I was told it was. And so

2323
02:08:14,440 --> 02:08:17,000
Speaker 4: as I saw to get more answers to these questions,

2324
02:08:17,520 --> 02:08:21,160
Speaker 4: I would read I read. You know, if anybody really

2325
02:08:21,200 --> 02:08:26,200
Speaker 4: wants to understand God, read John Jackson's Christianity Before Christ.

2326
02:08:26,640 --> 02:08:30,919
Speaker 4: John Jackson is one of the most eloquent writers about religion,

2327
02:08:31,280 --> 02:08:34,680
Speaker 4: and it gives you a very clear and concise understanding

2328
02:08:35,000 --> 02:08:38,680
Speaker 4: about other people and other cultures throughout the world have

2329
02:08:38,920 --> 02:08:42,480
Speaker 4: viewed this thing called God or viewed this thing called religion.

2330
02:08:42,760 --> 02:08:45,600
Speaker 4: I've been blessed to have traveled to Israel. I went

2331
02:08:45,600 --> 02:08:48,720
Speaker 4: to Israel was Reverend WILLI Wilson in two thousand. I've

2332
02:08:48,760 --> 02:08:52,160
Speaker 4: been to Rome. I've been to the Vatican three times,

2333
02:08:53,120 --> 02:08:55,160
Speaker 4: and I can tell you, based on my own personal

2334
02:08:55,240 --> 02:08:58,560
Speaker 4: experiences that thest that is one of the most unholy

2335
02:08:58,680 --> 02:09:02,600
Speaker 4: places I've ever been in my life. There's such this

2336
02:09:03,080 --> 02:09:08,800
Speaker 4: there's such this display of wealth that contradicts everything that

2337
02:09:09,040 --> 02:09:12,839
Speaker 4: Jesus was supposedly about. And so when you start asking questions,

2338
02:09:13,320 --> 02:09:16,560
Speaker 4: you know, and the Catholic Church is supposedly the church

2339
02:09:16,600 --> 02:09:21,000
Speaker 4: that was started by Peter, and it represents God's traditions

2340
02:09:21,040 --> 02:09:24,520
Speaker 4: and Jesus's traditions. Well, why has there been all of

2341
02:09:24,640 --> 02:09:29,080
Speaker 4: these stories and all of these lawsuits about pedophile priests,

2342
02:09:29,440 --> 02:09:33,600
Speaker 4: priests molesting little boys, priests molesting little girls. And what

2343
02:09:33,760 --> 02:09:35,960
Speaker 4: I can tell you, what I can tell you call

2344
02:09:36,080 --> 02:09:38,320
Speaker 4: based on what I know now. What I think is

2345
02:09:38,440 --> 02:09:41,600
Speaker 4: that priests that I have talked to, Theologians that I've

2346
02:09:41,640 --> 02:09:45,400
Speaker 4: talked to know that those teachings are not real, They're

2347
02:09:45,520 --> 02:09:47,880
Speaker 4: not meant to be taken literally. I have a very

2348
02:09:47,920 --> 02:09:50,880
Speaker 4: good friend who's a pastor, and he told me, Tony,

2349
02:09:51,040 --> 02:09:54,440
Speaker 4: the Bible contains truth. But the Bible is not true.

2350
02:09:54,760 --> 02:09:57,600
Speaker 4: The book was never meant to be taken literally. It

2351
02:09:57,760 --> 02:10:03,320
Speaker 4: was written in allegories, fables, and symbols for an illiterate people,

2352
02:10:03,560 --> 02:10:06,959
Speaker 4: for people who couldn't read. So he created these ideas

2353
02:10:07,440 --> 02:10:11,320
Speaker 4: and concepts that you're planting in people's minds in order

2354
02:10:11,400 --> 02:10:15,480
Speaker 4: to get them to believe in a force outside of themselves.

2355
02:10:15,720 --> 02:10:19,160
Speaker 4: They controlled every aspects of their lives. So to a

2356
02:10:19,320 --> 02:10:23,440
Speaker 4: large extent, religion has been used as a tool to

2357
02:10:23,680 --> 02:10:27,600
Speaker 4: keep people in line. And so if we can grasp that,

2358
02:10:28,200 --> 02:10:31,360
Speaker 4: then we can begin to separate our emotions from what

2359
02:10:31,480 --> 02:10:35,320
Speaker 4: it is. But the other reality is is that I

2360
02:10:35,480 --> 02:10:38,240
Speaker 4: know from our own personal experiences that there is a

2361
02:10:38,400 --> 02:10:40,800
Speaker 4: force what some people call God. They create a force

2362
02:10:41,040 --> 02:10:43,800
Speaker 4: some people call my aud that is real, and that

2363
02:10:43,960 --> 02:10:47,040
Speaker 4: when you acknowledge that force and know how to connect

2364
02:10:47,120 --> 02:10:50,000
Speaker 4: with it, and know how to amplify the presences of

2365
02:10:50,040 --> 02:10:52,120
Speaker 4: that force in your life, then you can do some

2366
02:10:52,280 --> 02:10:55,600
Speaker 4: miraculous things. Carl, you refer to me as a chemicologist.

2367
02:10:55,680 --> 02:10:58,160
Speaker 4: Some people call me an Egyptologist. Some people call me

2368
02:10:58,240 --> 02:11:02,600
Speaker 4: an archaeologist because I've and excavating tunes, funding the excavation

2369
02:11:02,720 --> 02:11:05,440
Speaker 4: of tunes in Egypt for over fifteen years. Some people

2370
02:11:05,480 --> 02:11:08,200
Speaker 4: call me a lecturer and a writer and all these things.

2371
02:11:08,480 --> 02:11:10,680
Speaker 4: I can tell you now that I have no formal

2372
02:11:10,800 --> 02:11:14,400
Speaker 4: training in any of those disciplines, but I have excelled

2373
02:11:14,520 --> 02:11:17,480
Speaker 4: in all of them because I have a relationship. I

2374
02:11:17,520 --> 02:11:20,880
Speaker 4: have a personal relationship with this force that people call God.

2375
02:11:21,240 --> 02:11:24,760
Speaker 4: I don't see it through the European lens. I don't

2376
02:11:24,760 --> 02:11:27,120
Speaker 4: see it through the Jewish lens. I don't see it

2377
02:11:27,200 --> 02:11:31,680
Speaker 4: through the Arabic lens. I see it through an African

2378
02:11:31,800 --> 02:11:37,320
Speaker 4: centered lens. That helps me understand that this creative force

2379
02:11:38,160 --> 02:11:42,320
Speaker 4: is available to anyone who acknowledges it and who knows

2380
02:11:42,640 --> 02:11:46,200
Speaker 4: how to tap into it and use it. George Washington Carver,

2381
02:11:46,680 --> 02:11:50,760
Speaker 4: the Wizard from Tuskegee, wrote about this in his publication.

2382
02:11:50,960 --> 02:11:53,640
Speaker 4: He talked about he will go out into the force

2383
02:11:54,080 --> 02:11:58,520
Speaker 4: every morning before sunrise and walk in the force to

2384
02:11:58,840 --> 02:12:03,840
Speaker 4: commune with his creator, and he would have conversations with

2385
02:12:04,040 --> 02:12:07,240
Speaker 4: the Creator, and then he would come back to his

2386
02:12:07,400 --> 02:12:14,000
Speaker 4: laboratory after having cultivated this relationship, and then he would

2387
02:12:14,040 --> 02:12:17,960
Speaker 4: communicate with the plants in his laboratory and ask those

2388
02:12:18,040 --> 02:12:22,000
Speaker 4: plants to reveal their secrets to him. And that's how

2389
02:12:22,080 --> 02:12:25,360
Speaker 4: he created for two hundred products from the peanut all

2390
02:12:25,400 --> 02:12:28,200
Speaker 4: these other products from the soybeing another plant. So this

2391
02:12:28,440 --> 02:12:33,000
Speaker 4: is a spiritual connection to nature or the natural rule,

2392
02:12:33,240 --> 02:12:37,120
Speaker 4: which Africans have known about for tens of thousands of years.

2393
02:12:37,480 --> 02:12:41,320
Speaker 4: So in order for Europeans and Arabs, and I can't

2394
02:12:41,400 --> 02:12:45,320
Speaker 4: let Arabs off the hook because seven hundred years before Europeans,

2395
02:12:45,680 --> 02:12:50,520
Speaker 4: European Christians came into Africa to colonize and control and

2396
02:12:50,680 --> 02:12:53,760
Speaker 4: enslaved Africans, Arabs did it for seven hundred years. They

2397
02:12:53,840 --> 02:12:57,440
Speaker 4: brought in Islam and used Islam to kill in the

2398
02:12:57,600 --> 02:13:00,760
Speaker 4: name of Allah. That's real. And if we're going to

2399
02:13:00,800 --> 02:13:04,720
Speaker 4: be honest with our discussion about God, about the Creator,

2400
02:13:04,960 --> 02:13:07,080
Speaker 4: about our Loah, we need to be honest with the

2401
02:13:07,360 --> 02:13:11,839
Speaker 4: history of how people have used these concepts to control

2402
02:13:11,960 --> 02:13:15,839
Speaker 4: and manipulate others. So what I'm really saying in summary

2403
02:13:16,520 --> 02:13:18,760
Speaker 4: is that there is a force and you start to

2404
02:13:18,880 --> 02:13:23,600
Speaker 4: show call with grand rising, grand rising. What is grand rising?

2405
02:13:23,960 --> 02:13:27,840
Speaker 4: Grand rising is current nhru. Grand rising is a phrase

2406
02:13:27,880 --> 02:13:30,960
Speaker 4: that was used in the Nile Valley encouraging people inviting

2407
02:13:31,000 --> 02:13:34,400
Speaker 4: people to come forth by day, to come forth by day.

2408
02:13:34,560 --> 02:13:36,520
Speaker 4: They just to come into a new day when the

2409
02:13:36,640 --> 02:13:39,760
Speaker 4: sun rises. And so the name of the sun when

2410
02:13:39,840 --> 02:13:43,280
Speaker 4: it rises in the morning, that grand rising that's kept ray.

2411
02:13:43,920 --> 02:13:48,000
Speaker 4: Kept Ray is an African word that identifies the rebirth

2412
02:13:48,520 --> 02:13:52,200
Speaker 4: of this creative spirit in our lives. On this day,

2413
02:13:52,760 --> 02:13:56,280
Speaker 4: when the sun reaches its highest point at noon, it

2414
02:13:56,440 --> 02:14:00,720
Speaker 4: was known as ray, was known as ray or acknowledges

2415
02:14:00,760 --> 02:14:04,440
Speaker 4: the Creator on high. When the sun set and disappeared

2416
02:14:04,800 --> 02:14:08,360
Speaker 4: beneath the horizon, it was called our men. Jews use

2417
02:14:08,440 --> 02:14:11,160
Speaker 4: that word i'm in, Muslims use that word i'm in.

2418
02:14:12,120 --> 02:14:14,560
Speaker 4: Christians use that word i'm in. Oman is a word

2419
02:14:14,640 --> 02:14:18,000
Speaker 4: that comes straight out of the Nile Valley and identifies

2420
02:14:18,080 --> 02:14:23,600
Speaker 4: the unseen presence of the Creator. So people have identified

2421
02:14:23,720 --> 02:14:27,680
Speaker 4: this unseen, I knowable source that is responsible for all

2422
02:14:27,760 --> 02:14:31,760
Speaker 4: there is. And so what our ancestors have left us

2423
02:14:32,520 --> 02:14:35,640
Speaker 4: is the means by which we can understand how this

2424
02:14:35,960 --> 02:14:41,240
Speaker 4: force expresses itself within the environment. And this environment was

2425
02:14:41,280 --> 02:14:45,880
Speaker 4: referred to as nature, and in Chemic that term was nature,

2426
02:14:46,120 --> 02:14:50,080
Speaker 4: which means the principles or the aspects of the one

2427
02:14:50,640 --> 02:14:54,440
Speaker 4: powerful source of creation. So there are multiple aspects. There

2428
02:14:54,480 --> 02:14:58,480
Speaker 4: are many different ways to know the Creator. There's not

2429
02:14:58,720 --> 02:15:02,760
Speaker 4: just one way. It's not just one path. There's many

2430
02:15:02,880 --> 02:15:06,960
Speaker 4: different ways, and all of those ways I'm valid if

2431
02:15:07,000 --> 02:15:11,879
Speaker 4: you're using them to know yourself and to cultivate meaningful

2432
02:15:12,000 --> 02:15:17,000
Speaker 4: relationships with other human beings. If you are in saving

2433
02:15:17,160 --> 02:15:20,280
Speaker 4: someone in the name of God, you don't know God.

2434
02:15:20,720 --> 02:15:23,800
Speaker 4: If you're conquering somebody in the name of God, you

2435
02:15:24,240 --> 02:15:27,680
Speaker 4: don't know God. You are dealing with an avarition. You're

2436
02:15:27,720 --> 02:15:33,200
Speaker 4: dealing with a distorted percession of spirituality which will condemn

2437
02:15:33,840 --> 02:15:38,200
Speaker 4: any person to eternal hell for across multiple lifetimes. So

2438
02:15:38,400 --> 02:15:42,240
Speaker 4: as this world is changing, and as Hugh was mentioned

2439
02:15:42,240 --> 02:15:45,640
Speaker 4: that in her commentary, we live in a changing world.

2440
02:15:46,000 --> 02:15:49,240
Speaker 4: Quincy Jones said a song that said everything must change,

2441
02:15:49,640 --> 02:15:53,080
Speaker 4: nothing remains the same. That's the beauty of life. We

2442
02:15:53,200 --> 02:15:57,280
Speaker 4: are evolving people, and as we evolve, we are supposed

2443
02:15:57,320 --> 02:16:00,640
Speaker 4: to grow. And as we grow, we gain more knowledge

2444
02:16:00,840 --> 02:16:03,480
Speaker 4: and we apply that knowledge in our lives. And it

2445
02:16:03,600 --> 02:16:06,560
Speaker 4: is through the application of the knowledge that we understand

2446
02:16:06,840 --> 02:16:10,440
Speaker 4: what works and we do life better and we can

2447
02:16:10,840 --> 02:16:14,000
Speaker 4: we have the potential now to create things which will

2448
02:16:14,080 --> 02:16:16,320
Speaker 4: make the quality of life better and the last thing

2449
02:16:16,360 --> 02:16:18,320
Speaker 4: in our end on this note car because is you

2450
02:16:18,360 --> 02:16:20,360
Speaker 4: know I can I can run when I get going,

2451
02:16:20,720 --> 02:16:24,160
Speaker 4: when as ROSMN Jefferies will say, when the African Holy

2452
02:16:24,240 --> 02:16:27,400
Speaker 4: Ghost hits me, I get going, and so and I

2453
02:16:27,840 --> 02:16:30,520
Speaker 4: and I do know and I do acknowledge. It's the

2454
02:16:30,640 --> 02:16:34,040
Speaker 4: spirit of the ancestors that are working through me. Even

2455
02:16:34,080 --> 02:16:36,840
Speaker 4: though my voice is sore, I ain't feeling the pain

2456
02:16:37,000 --> 02:16:39,960
Speaker 4: right now because I have a message to impart to

2457
02:16:40,200 --> 02:16:42,520
Speaker 4: those people who are prepared to hear it, and I

2458
02:16:42,640 --> 02:16:45,120
Speaker 4: have enough sense to know that not everybody can hear it.

2459
02:16:45,480 --> 02:16:47,880
Speaker 4: There's some folks who don't want to hear it, and

2460
02:16:48,080 --> 02:16:52,600
Speaker 4: that's okay. This message ain't for everybody. If this message

2461
02:16:52,640 --> 02:16:56,520
Speaker 4: is for those people who realize times are changing and

2462
02:16:56,640 --> 02:16:59,960
Speaker 4: the people the institutions that we have put our faith

2463
02:17:00,680 --> 02:17:05,039
Speaker 4: has failed us in many instances. The federal government has

2464
02:17:05,160 --> 02:17:10,599
Speaker 4: failed us, churches has failed us. Other institutions, banking institutions

2465
02:17:10,959 --> 02:17:15,080
Speaker 4: have failed us. And we're being exploited as human beings

2466
02:17:15,200 --> 02:17:19,480
Speaker 4: have never been exploited before. And all of this is

2467
02:17:19,600 --> 02:17:23,800
Speaker 4: coming to a head. And so what those who have

2468
02:17:24,040 --> 02:17:28,199
Speaker 4: the presence of mind should be doing is preparing themselves

2469
02:17:28,600 --> 02:17:31,840
Speaker 4: so that when this thing comes to a head, they

2470
02:17:31,920 --> 02:17:35,440
Speaker 4: will not their lives will not be turned upside down,

2471
02:17:35,959 --> 02:17:39,920
Speaker 4: because there are many different ways to ground yourself. To

2472
02:17:40,080 --> 02:17:44,280
Speaker 4: cloak yourself in the spirit of the ancestors or the

2473
02:17:44,360 --> 02:17:48,960
Speaker 4: spirit of the creative forces, and protect yourself and insulate

2474
02:17:49,040 --> 02:17:52,360
Speaker 4: yourself so that you will be able to create a

2475
02:17:52,560 --> 02:17:56,320
Speaker 4: new world, a new heaven here on earth. And that's

2476
02:17:56,360 --> 02:18:00,320
Speaker 4: what human beings have always done. And call everybody who

2477
02:18:00,360 --> 02:18:03,760
Speaker 4: has studied history knows that African people have done it

2478
02:18:04,000 --> 02:18:07,640
Speaker 4: longer and better than any other people on the planet.

2479
02:18:07,959 --> 02:18:12,320
Speaker 4: And it's now time for us to embrace our traditions,

2480
02:18:12,800 --> 02:18:17,240
Speaker 4: our values and do us as we've never done us before.

2481
02:18:18,920 --> 02:18:21,000
Speaker 1: Gotcha, Well, hold that all right there, sticks away from

2482
02:18:21,000 --> 02:18:22,640
Speaker 1: the top. I got some folks want to talk to you.

2483
02:18:22,959 --> 02:18:25,480
Speaker 1: It's got a Craig first. He's calling from Washington, DC's

2484
02:18:25,480 --> 02:18:27,959
Speaker 1: online too, Grand Rising, Craig, you're on with Tony Browner.

2485
02:18:29,840 --> 02:18:35,000
Speaker 9: Grand Rising Brothers. Brother Quasi always ask the hard questions.

2486
02:18:35,600 --> 02:18:39,520
Speaker 9: That's why we love him. He don't escape no reality.

2487
02:18:39,879 --> 02:18:42,119
Speaker 6: He give it to you. Brother.

2488
02:18:42,640 --> 02:18:45,879
Speaker 9: As a as a member of Union Temple, I sat

2489
02:18:45,959 --> 02:18:49,560
Speaker 9: under Willy Wilson. I've sat under Willie Wilson since I

2490
02:18:49,720 --> 02:18:53,600
Speaker 9: was seven years old. I'm sixty now, so I think

2491
02:18:53,720 --> 02:18:56,880
Speaker 9: that I can ask this question. This is not a

2492
02:18:56,920 --> 02:18:59,680
Speaker 9: trick question. This is the question we've been asking other

2493
02:18:59,760 --> 02:19:03,800
Speaker 9: than God. With the mental capacity that we have as

2494
02:19:03,879 --> 02:19:11,080
Speaker 9: black people right now, should black people join the US military?

2495
02:19:11,760 --> 02:19:15,000
Speaker 9: That's number one, That's the most important question I have.

2496
02:19:15,920 --> 02:19:20,240
Speaker 9: And number two is if, like Willie Wilson has taught us,

2497
02:19:20,400 --> 02:19:24,280
Speaker 9: we are gods children of the most High God. He

2498
02:19:24,440 --> 02:19:28,720
Speaker 9: taught me that since I was a child. I'm asking

2499
02:19:28,840 --> 02:19:33,360
Speaker 9: you if we would have had the Book of Enoch

2500
02:19:33,640 --> 02:19:36,680
Speaker 9: that we have been deprived of, that they study in

2501
02:19:36,800 --> 02:19:42,480
Speaker 9: the Masonic Order in secret, all our questions of religion

2502
02:19:42,680 --> 02:19:46,560
Speaker 9: and God would be answered. And that Book of Enoch

2503
02:19:46,760 --> 02:19:51,720
Speaker 9: is in the oldest Bible known to man, the Ethiopic Bible,

2504
02:19:52,040 --> 02:19:56,840
Speaker 9: the whole Book of Enoch that has been deliberately taken out.

2505
02:19:58,560 --> 02:19:59,240
Speaker 9: That's my question.

2506
02:19:59,360 --> 02:20:02,640
Speaker 4: Brother, Thank you, Thanks Rich Traig.

2507
02:20:02,760 --> 02:20:05,160
Speaker 1: Lit'sten step aside for a few moments, so when we

2508
02:20:05,280 --> 02:20:08,400
Speaker 1: come back, I'll let the Brother Tony respond to your

2509
02:20:08,800 --> 02:20:10,920
Speaker 1: to your questions, and we're step aside so our stations

2510
02:20:10,959 --> 02:20:13,920
Speaker 1: can identify themselves down the line. Per the FCC family,

2511
02:20:13,959 --> 02:20:17,800
Speaker 1: Youtubo can join our conversation with Tony Browner Chematologists. Reach

2512
02:20:17,840 --> 02:20:20,680
Speaker 1: out to us at eight hundred four five zero seventy

2513
02:20:20,720 --> 02:20:22,280
Speaker 1: eight to seventy six and we'll take all your phone

2514
02:20:22,320 --> 02:20:24,760
Speaker 1: calls next time. Grind Rising Family, thanks for rolling with

2515
02:20:24,879 --> 02:20:27,240
Speaker 1: us on this Thursday morning with our guest, that chemtalogist,

2516
02:20:27,280 --> 02:20:29,280
Speaker 1: brother Tony Browner. Brother Tony's got a new book out.

2517
02:20:29,280 --> 02:20:31,200
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the book before he leaves.

2518
02:20:31,400 --> 02:20:33,600
Speaker 1: But you got a question before we left for the break.

2519
02:20:33,640 --> 02:20:36,040
Speaker 1: We're from Craig in Washington, d C. About joining the

2520
02:20:36,160 --> 02:20:38,520
Speaker 1: US military and also about the Book of Enoch. So

2521
02:20:38,959 --> 02:20:40,960
Speaker 1: brother Tony, I respond to Craig's questions.

2522
02:20:41,440 --> 02:20:43,120
Speaker 4: Okay, great, Well, the first thing I'm going to do

2523
02:20:43,360 --> 02:20:46,000
Speaker 4: is thank Craig for calling. And I also wanted to

2524
02:20:46,080 --> 02:20:48,680
Speaker 4: give a big shout out to REVERI Wilson pass or

2525
02:20:48,959 --> 02:20:52,360
Speaker 4: Union Temple Baptist Church founding Paths of Union Temple Baptist Church.

2526
02:20:53,480 --> 02:20:57,320
Speaker 4: As I mentioned, I went to Israel and Egypt with

2527
02:20:58,160 --> 02:21:01,120
Speaker 4: Junior Temple and Reverie Willie Wills in two thousand. We

2528
02:21:01,240 --> 02:21:04,680
Speaker 4: did a study toured Egypt with Reverend Wilson the year

2529
02:21:04,760 --> 02:21:07,240
Speaker 4: before that, and so Rever Wilson is one of the

2530
02:21:07,400 --> 02:21:12,000
Speaker 4: few ministers black and white in this city who acknowledges

2531
02:21:12,280 --> 02:21:16,640
Speaker 4: the African origins of these traditions. He's the only minister

2532
02:21:16,800 --> 02:21:20,879
Speaker 4: I know who has a picture of a black Jesus

2533
02:21:21,280 --> 02:21:24,680
Speaker 4: in his pulpit. He's the only minister I know who

2534
02:21:24,840 --> 02:21:29,000
Speaker 4: has pictures of the Twelve Disciples that are depicted as

2535
02:21:30,280 --> 02:21:35,960
Speaker 4: as African American ancestors. Plus Minister Louis FAIRKRD. So he

2536
02:21:36,080 --> 02:21:40,040
Speaker 4: has a non traditional approach to Christianity. And as a

2537
02:21:40,160 --> 02:21:45,119
Speaker 4: result of Reverend Wilson's brilliant approach the teaching the Gospels,

2538
02:21:45,400 --> 02:21:51,000
Speaker 4: He's hated by other Christian ministers. He's hated because Rever

2539
02:21:51,120 --> 02:21:54,680
Speaker 4: Wilson tells it like it is. He tells his parishioners

2540
02:21:54,959 --> 02:21:58,960
Speaker 4: that this is an African book about African people. And

2541
02:21:59,080 --> 02:22:02,560
Speaker 4: so he brings a certain level of freedom, if you will,

2542
02:22:02,879 --> 02:22:06,320
Speaker 4: to his interpretation of scripture. And so I will be

2543
02:22:06,480 --> 02:22:11,080
Speaker 4: doing Quazam next Saturday, the twenty seventh of December, at

2544
02:22:11,200 --> 02:22:14,360
Speaker 4: Union Temple Baptist Church at seven o'cart. I've been doing

2545
02:22:14,440 --> 02:22:20,280
Speaker 4: Quasams at Union Temple ever since December of nineteen eighty six,

2546
02:22:20,600 --> 02:22:23,960
Speaker 4: when I did my first appearance on the Cathay Hughes

2547
02:22:24,040 --> 02:22:28,520
Speaker 4: Morning Show on w WELM. So I'm tethered to Reverend Wilson.

2548
02:22:28,520 --> 02:22:31,000
Speaker 4: We're joined at the help and I support everything this

2549
02:22:31,160 --> 02:22:35,200
Speaker 4: man does because he is a fearless defender of the truth. Now,

2550
02:22:35,280 --> 02:22:39,040
Speaker 4: with regards to Craig's questions, I'm gonna ask for them succinctly.

2551
02:22:39,640 --> 02:22:43,640
Speaker 4: Regarding black folks joining the military. Now, me personally, I

2552
02:22:43,680 --> 02:22:46,400
Speaker 4: wouldn't join the military because my thoughts are a little

2553
02:22:46,400 --> 02:22:49,760
Speaker 4: bit too radical. But I know hundreds of people, even

2554
02:22:49,879 --> 02:22:53,600
Speaker 4: family members of mine, who joined the military, and they

2555
02:22:53,760 --> 02:22:58,880
Speaker 4: gained skills, they gain health insurance, they gain the ability

2556
02:22:59,040 --> 02:23:03,760
Speaker 4: to access loans to go to college, loans to buy

2557
02:23:03,760 --> 02:23:07,000
Speaker 4: a house. So if he joined the military, you used

2558
02:23:07,040 --> 02:23:09,800
Speaker 4: the military, don't allow the military to use you. I

2559
02:23:09,920 --> 02:23:12,160
Speaker 4: remember for the show a couple of weeks ago, someone

2560
02:23:12,240 --> 02:23:16,959
Speaker 4: asked James Marrow that question, and so James James's answered

2561
02:23:17,000 --> 02:23:19,840
Speaker 4: to that question is the same as mine. You used

2562
02:23:19,879 --> 02:23:23,000
Speaker 4: the military, don't allow the military to use you. James

2563
02:23:23,080 --> 02:23:25,879
Speaker 4: talked about how he and other people in the Navy,

2564
02:23:25,920 --> 02:23:28,320
Speaker 4: I believe he was in the Navy, that they were

2565
02:23:28,440 --> 02:23:30,480
Speaker 4: kind of you just objectives. They were in the military,

2566
02:23:30,680 --> 02:23:33,280
Speaker 4: but they refused to go to war. There are things

2567
02:23:33,320 --> 02:23:36,400
Speaker 4: that you can do when you organize. I know plenty

2568
02:23:36,480 --> 02:23:39,200
Speaker 4: of brothers who were in the military who brought me

2569
02:23:39,320 --> 02:23:43,640
Speaker 4: over to Massaa, Japan in nineteen three, nineteen ninety four

2570
02:23:43,840 --> 02:23:46,320
Speaker 4: to do presentations. Brought me over to your coda. I

2571
02:23:46,440 --> 02:23:50,360
Speaker 4: spoken at dozens a military basis because the black folk

2572
02:23:50,400 --> 02:23:53,160
Speaker 4: in the military who understood the value of what I

2573
02:23:53,320 --> 02:23:56,760
Speaker 4: was teaching, and they used my position. They used DEI

2574
02:23:57,360 --> 02:24:00,240
Speaker 4: which was available then to bring people like me out

2575
02:24:00,520 --> 02:24:03,760
Speaker 4: to share historical information. They use my books in the

2576
02:24:03,840 --> 02:24:07,160
Speaker 4: classrooms and the schools in the military. So use the military.

2577
02:24:07,520 --> 02:24:09,800
Speaker 4: Take a page out of the school who set by

2578
02:24:09,840 --> 02:24:13,440
Speaker 4: the door. Use the military. Get training and weapons, get

2579
02:24:13,520 --> 02:24:18,040
Speaker 4: training and strategies, get training and organizing. That the park

2580
02:24:18,320 --> 02:24:21,959
Speaker 4: was in the military, that the card was a sergeant

2581
02:24:22,040 --> 02:24:25,920
Speaker 4: who oversaw supplies, get skills. And then after you leed

2582
02:24:26,000 --> 02:24:27,560
Speaker 4: the military, because you're going to be out of the

2583
02:24:27,600 --> 02:24:30,320
Speaker 4: military long as you've been in the military, applyed those

2584
02:24:30,320 --> 02:24:34,040
Speaker 4: skills in your community, in your life. So to that extent,

2585
02:24:34,440 --> 02:24:38,120
Speaker 4: join please force be like tyrone power. Join the FBI,

2586
02:24:38,640 --> 02:24:43,080
Speaker 4: Join the CIA, Join the NSA, Join all these institutions

2587
02:24:43,160 --> 02:24:47,080
Speaker 4: and organizations, because we need inside men and inside women.

2588
02:24:47,320 --> 02:24:51,120
Speaker 4: Not everybody who's in these institutions is a trader. There

2589
02:24:51,160 --> 02:24:53,920
Speaker 4: are people who gained valuable skills, and I've been the

2590
02:24:54,000 --> 02:24:57,920
Speaker 4: beneficiary of people who shared information with me as a

2591
02:24:57,959 --> 02:25:01,400
Speaker 4: result of having been in those organization and peak behind

2592
02:25:01,480 --> 02:25:05,480
Speaker 4: the curtains. So I would say, use every opportunity available

2593
02:25:05,560 --> 02:25:08,360
Speaker 4: to you to lift yourself up, and if you lift

2594
02:25:08,440 --> 02:25:11,360
Speaker 4: yourself up, lift others around you. With regards to the

2595
02:25:11,360 --> 02:25:14,520
Speaker 4: Book of Enoch, I have not read the Book of Enoch,

2596
02:25:14,800 --> 02:25:18,360
Speaker 4: so I can't speak to that book with any any

2597
02:25:18,440 --> 02:25:21,560
Speaker 4: degree of specificity. But I can tell you that there

2598
02:25:21,600 --> 02:25:25,240
Speaker 4: are many books that never made it in the Christian Bible.

2599
02:25:25,440 --> 02:25:29,360
Speaker 4: There are sixty six books in the current version of

2600
02:25:29,440 --> 02:25:32,039
Speaker 4: the King James version of the Bible, the most read

2601
02:25:32,160 --> 02:25:35,360
Speaker 4: book in history. But there are many books, dozens of

2602
02:25:35,400 --> 02:25:38,040
Speaker 4: books that never made it. Those books are used in

2603
02:25:38,160 --> 02:25:41,360
Speaker 4: other religions, Those books that are available in various forms.

2604
02:25:41,560 --> 02:25:44,000
Speaker 4: Those books are available in libraries today, so you can

2605
02:25:44,080 --> 02:25:48,360
Speaker 4: read that information now. With regards to the Ethiopians, so

2606
02:25:48,800 --> 02:25:51,359
Speaker 4: let me share this about Ethiopia, I've been in Ethiopia

2607
02:25:51,400 --> 02:25:55,360
Speaker 4: three times. I've seen the Christian churches, the stone churches

2608
02:25:55,440 --> 02:25:58,400
Speaker 4: of Lallabella. I've been to oxen and what I can

2609
02:25:58,480 --> 02:26:02,840
Speaker 4: tell you is there, while Ethiopians have a profound understanding

2610
02:26:02,879 --> 02:26:08,200
Speaker 4: of Christianity, a profound understanding of Judaism, there is a

2611
02:26:08,440 --> 02:26:12,520
Speaker 4: distortion in their interpretation. The last time I was in Ethiopia,

2612
02:26:12,640 --> 02:26:16,280
Speaker 4: that was in twenty twenty thirteen, I believe I was

2613
02:26:16,400 --> 02:26:23,760
Speaker 4: there with doctor Jeffries Rosne and Jeffries, doctor Julius Garby

2614
02:26:24,040 --> 02:26:27,039
Speaker 4: and host of Butther Pope. We participated in a conference

2615
02:26:27,040 --> 02:26:30,400
Speaker 4: where I gave a presentation on the African origins of Christianity.

2616
02:26:30,760 --> 02:26:35,520
Speaker 4: And I could tell you we visited these Christian monasteries,

2617
02:26:35,840 --> 02:26:40,000
Speaker 4: and in these Christian monasteries, the Europeans have their hands

2618
02:26:40,200 --> 02:26:44,000
Speaker 4: up in the Ethiopian religion and they have gone they

2619
02:26:44,040 --> 02:26:48,880
Speaker 4: have done away with the images of the black, dark eyed,

2620
02:26:49,520 --> 02:26:53,400
Speaker 4: dark hair, brown skinned Jesus and replaced him with the

2621
02:26:53,520 --> 02:26:57,480
Speaker 4: blond hair, blue eyed Jesus. So there is corruption within

2622
02:26:58,000 --> 02:27:03,000
Speaker 4: the Ethiopian Christian and Orthodox religion. And and and and

2623
02:27:03,240 --> 02:27:07,520
Speaker 4: and there's this whole thing about the the Ethiopians having

2624
02:27:07,640 --> 02:27:10,879
Speaker 4: the Ark of the Covenant. Right uh in Oxenen, there's

2625
02:27:10,879 --> 02:27:13,720
Speaker 4: a church there where they there's a priest who supposedly

2626
02:27:13,760 --> 02:27:15,440
Speaker 4: guards the ark of the Covenant. Well, let me be

2627
02:27:15,560 --> 02:27:19,080
Speaker 4: clear about stating this. The whole concept of the Ark

2628
02:27:19,160 --> 02:27:22,040
Speaker 4: of the Covenant comes out of Kimmin, comes out of

2629
02:27:22,080 --> 02:27:25,560
Speaker 4: the Nile Valley, Cush and Kimmin, And that every temple

2630
02:27:25,920 --> 02:27:29,240
Speaker 4: and Kush and Kimmith had a Holy of holies, and

2631
02:27:29,440 --> 02:27:33,400
Speaker 4: every Holy of Holies had a sacred artifice that was

2632
02:27:33,879 --> 02:27:36,640
Speaker 4: referred to as the Ark of the Covenant. So that's

2633
02:27:36,760 --> 02:27:41,080
Speaker 4: not exclusive to Judaism, that's not exclusive to Ethiopia. So

2634
02:27:41,160 --> 02:27:44,840
Speaker 4: we've got to expand our minds and free ourselves from

2635
02:27:44,920 --> 02:27:49,040
Speaker 4: the prisons that most religions have put on our brains

2636
02:27:49,360 --> 02:27:52,080
Speaker 4: in order to get us to worship a god that

2637
02:27:52,200 --> 02:27:55,280
Speaker 4: they never served us. Right, So we can go on

2638
02:27:55,360 --> 02:27:57,040
Speaker 4: to the next calarcaust.

2639
02:27:58,440 --> 02:28:02,240
Speaker 1: All right, Kareem's calling from Baltimore's on nine three Grand

2640
02:28:02,360 --> 02:28:04,000
Speaker 1: Rising Kareem with Tony Browner.

2641
02:28:05,440 --> 02:28:09,640
Speaker 11: Hey, piece, how y'all doing. I I have a question.

2642
02:28:09,840 --> 02:28:11,920
Speaker 11: I'm a I'm a student of doctor Ian Knows. So

2643
02:28:12,920 --> 02:28:20,720
Speaker 11: just give my background. I doctor Ian doctor.

2644
02:28:20,800 --> 02:28:23,160
Speaker 5: I yes, yes, all right?

2645
02:28:23,240 --> 02:28:28,080
Speaker 11: So and what we I studied with him mistraditional Chinese medicine,

2646
02:28:28,560 --> 02:28:33,320
Speaker 11: which is my understanding, is from Africa. Also the concept

2647
02:28:33,360 --> 02:28:35,039
Speaker 11: of beginning young is from Africa.

2648
02:28:36,200 --> 02:28:36,600
Speaker 4: If we.

2649
02:28:38,560 --> 02:28:44,720
Speaker 12: Study ourselves and the history of the world, it always

2650
02:28:44,879 --> 02:28:47,480
Speaker 12: leads us. I'm finding that it always leads us back

2651
02:28:47,560 --> 02:28:53,240
Speaker 12: to Africa and that concept. Would you suggest that as

2652
02:28:53,360 --> 02:28:58,520
Speaker 12: individuals trying to find self, that it is important or

2653
02:28:58,640 --> 02:29:03,879
Speaker 12: the importance of reading, studying and then finding someone who

2654
02:29:05,240 --> 02:29:09,320
Speaker 12: is somewhat of a master that can guide you, because

2655
02:29:09,320 --> 02:29:12,039
Speaker 12: I think a lot of times we got ourselves thinking

2656
02:29:12,120 --> 02:29:16,959
Speaker 12: that we are on the right path. But in ancient times,

2657
02:29:18,520 --> 02:29:21,240
Speaker 12: the Yellow Emperor learned from a twelve year old black

2658
02:29:21,320 --> 02:29:24,760
Speaker 12: girl named sue Yins. So we all have to have

2659
02:29:25,040 --> 02:29:29,120
Speaker 12: guidance in our understanding. What is the proper way to

2660
02:29:29,240 --> 02:29:31,200
Speaker 12: do that or is that important?

2661
02:29:32,360 --> 02:29:36,840
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, thank you, thank you brother. That's a

2662
02:29:37,080 --> 02:29:41,760
Speaker 4: very important question. And answering that question, I can refer

2663
02:29:42,000 --> 02:29:45,120
Speaker 4: to doctor Rosie who was on the segment before me.

2664
02:29:45,680 --> 02:29:51,279
Speaker 4: She gave very practical advice. Even after your children are grown,

2665
02:29:51,680 --> 02:29:56,240
Speaker 4: they are still your children. Even after your children are married,

2666
02:29:56,480 --> 02:29:58,880
Speaker 4: they're still your children, and you should be up in

2667
02:29:59,000 --> 02:30:03,600
Speaker 4: their business. So this idea of eldership is something that

2668
02:30:03,840 --> 02:30:07,480
Speaker 4: was understood that is better understood in most cultures than

2669
02:30:07,560 --> 02:30:11,120
Speaker 4: it is here in America, because America propagates this false

2670
02:30:11,240 --> 02:30:16,040
Speaker 4: notion of individuality. There are no individuals in any society

2671
02:30:16,160 --> 02:30:19,080
Speaker 4: that is going to thrive. There is this hierarchy that

2672
02:30:19,320 --> 02:30:24,920
Speaker 4: is rooted in eldership, and there is this ingrained respect

2673
02:30:25,400 --> 02:30:30,000
Speaker 4: for elders. Any society that does not respect its elders

2674
02:30:30,280 --> 02:30:33,280
Speaker 4: is a society that's doomed to fail. And so the

2675
02:30:33,400 --> 02:30:37,760
Speaker 4: elders have lived experience. Every young person should sit at

2676
02:30:37,800 --> 02:30:41,120
Speaker 4: the foot of an elder and allow them to pour

2677
02:30:41,360 --> 02:30:44,200
Speaker 4: their knowledge into you. Why because you will be an

2678
02:30:44,240 --> 02:30:47,120
Speaker 4: elder sometimes and you will have an obligation and the

2679
02:30:47,160 --> 02:30:50,960
Speaker 4: responsibility to do the same to another young person. So

2680
02:30:51,440 --> 02:30:57,240
Speaker 4: what I would encourage Koreans and listeners to do is

2681
02:30:57,360 --> 02:31:00,959
Speaker 4: I see too many people, too many young people who

2682
02:31:01,440 --> 02:31:06,320
Speaker 4: see themselves as their own leader. And that's a fatal

2683
02:31:06,480 --> 02:31:10,920
Speaker 4: flaw because just as they say, a person who represents

2684
02:31:10,959 --> 02:31:14,520
Speaker 4: themselves as their attorney in the court of law has

2685
02:31:14,560 --> 02:31:21,200
Speaker 4: a fool for an attorney. Everybody can benefit from studying

2686
02:31:21,440 --> 02:31:25,200
Speaker 4: under someone who knows more than they They can guide

2687
02:31:25,280 --> 02:31:27,160
Speaker 4: you and they can bring you along the pass. So

2688
02:31:27,280 --> 02:31:29,640
Speaker 4: to that end, and our clothes in this statement and

2689
02:31:29,760 --> 02:31:33,279
Speaker 4: as commit Georgie and James talked about the ten virtues

2690
02:31:34,120 --> 02:31:39,119
Speaker 4: the prerequisites for human development. In identifying the ten virtues

2691
02:31:39,600 --> 02:31:43,640
Speaker 4: of the latter virtues, talk about confidence in the ability

2692
02:31:44,080 --> 02:31:48,320
Speaker 4: of a master teacher to IMpower information to you, confidence

2693
02:31:48,720 --> 02:31:52,760
Speaker 4: your capacity to learn from the master teacher. And then

2694
02:31:52,840 --> 02:31:56,080
Speaker 4: the tenth virtue, you going out into the world to

2695
02:31:56,240 --> 02:31:59,080
Speaker 4: apply what you've been taught. And the other important thing

2696
02:31:59,240 --> 02:32:03,600
Speaker 4: in our clothes is that in the Now Valley educational system,

2697
02:32:04,160 --> 02:32:08,280
Speaker 4: one hit to study under elitis for forty two years

2698
02:32:08,720 --> 02:32:12,520
Speaker 4: before you were even allowed to open your mouth. Forty

2699
02:32:12,560 --> 02:32:18,440
Speaker 4: two years. Just think about that for a minute. All right,

2700
02:32:18,760 --> 02:32:21,000
Speaker 4: Thanks Green, all right, thank you, appreciate you.

2701
02:32:21,560 --> 02:32:23,600
Speaker 1: Twelve out of the top. Brother Gregor is checking in

2702
02:32:23,680 --> 02:32:26,800
Speaker 1: from Charlotte Ashahn Line two. Grand Rising Brother Gregor, You're

2703
02:32:26,800 --> 02:32:27,680
Speaker 1: on with Tony Browner.

2704
02:32:28,800 --> 02:32:33,160
Speaker 13: Yes, Grand rising Brother Paul and grand Rising Brother Tony Browner.

2705
02:32:33,920 --> 02:32:35,520
Speaker 13: First of all, I just want to say thanks to

2706
02:32:35,640 --> 02:32:40,040
Speaker 13: you for your research and for your publications, your books

2707
02:32:40,640 --> 02:32:45,440
Speaker 13: from the Browder Files and especially Now Valley Civilizations. I

2708
02:32:45,560 --> 02:32:47,920
Speaker 13: was in graduate school when I first saw the book,

2709
02:32:48,640 --> 02:32:50,200
Speaker 13: and all I could say when I saw the cover

2710
02:32:50,400 --> 02:32:52,680
Speaker 13: was wild that a brother had put something like that

2711
02:32:52,800 --> 02:32:55,599
Speaker 13: together for his people. So thank you for those publications.

2712
02:32:56,040 --> 02:33:00,320
Speaker 13: Dr Browner, Yes, sir. The reason I called when I

2713
02:33:00,400 --> 02:33:04,360
Speaker 13: do bring up the issue of birthright citizenship, I sometimes

2714
02:33:04,680 --> 02:33:08,000
Speaker 13: mentioned that you and brother mentioned the idea of a

2715
02:33:08,120 --> 02:33:12,200
Speaker 13: cataclysmic event that it could affect black people sometime in

2716
02:33:12,280 --> 02:33:16,080
Speaker 13: the future. And when I looked at the research, I

2717
02:33:16,160 --> 02:33:20,960
Speaker 13: saw that the US Supreme Court in October they announced

2718
02:33:20,959 --> 02:33:24,840
Speaker 13: they're reviewing the Voting Rights Act, and they also in

2719
02:33:25,080 --> 02:33:30,160
Speaker 13: December this month they announced that they're reviewing birthright citizenship.

2720
02:33:31,000 --> 02:33:34,200
Speaker 13: And in the military, that's my background, we have an

2721
02:33:34,200 --> 02:33:38,920
Speaker 13: old time saying hope for the best, but prepare for

2722
02:33:39,040 --> 02:33:42,920
Speaker 13: the worst. And when I was looking at the facts

2723
02:33:42,920 --> 02:33:47,040
Speaker 13: about the Supreme Court, it is possible Dr Browner, that

2724
02:33:47,240 --> 02:33:51,760
Speaker 13: in July of twenty twenty six, the black community and

2725
02:33:51,879 --> 02:33:55,880
Speaker 13: the civil rights community, we could receive something like a

2726
02:33:56,040 --> 02:34:01,000
Speaker 13: Mike Kyson one two punts, a nullification of the Voting

2727
02:34:01,120 --> 02:34:05,280
Speaker 13: Rights Act and at the same time, a notification of

2728
02:34:05,440 --> 02:34:09,280
Speaker 13: birthrights citizenship on the same day, in the summer of

2729
02:34:09,400 --> 02:34:12,560
Speaker 13: twenty twenty six from the US to Prime Court. So

2730
02:34:12,600 --> 02:34:14,680
Speaker 13: I wanted to ask you, do you see that as

2731
02:34:14,720 --> 02:34:19,720
Speaker 13: a possible cataclysmic event for the black community losing both

2732
02:34:19,800 --> 02:34:22,640
Speaker 13: of those foundational rights that we we had for over

2733
02:34:22,680 --> 02:34:25,440
Speaker 13: one hundred and fifty years, and what do you see

2734
02:34:26,160 --> 02:34:29,360
Speaker 13: we could do in the future, from say New Year's

2735
02:34:29,440 --> 02:34:33,039
Speaker 13: Day twenty twenty six to July first, twenty twenty six,

2736
02:34:33,720 --> 02:34:37,040
Speaker 13: to prepare for the possibility that these could be the

2737
02:34:37,120 --> 02:34:38,800
Speaker 13: rulings from the USU Prime Court.

2738
02:34:40,840 --> 02:34:45,000
Speaker 4: Well, thank you, brother Gregory for your insights and that

2739
02:34:45,240 --> 02:34:49,280
Speaker 4: very proving question. Let's let us be clear that from

2740
02:34:49,320 --> 02:34:52,520
Speaker 4: the very founding of this nation two hundred and fifty

2741
02:34:52,560 --> 02:34:59,600
Speaker 4: years ago, the pedophiles George Washington, the pedophiles Thomas Jefferson,

2742
02:35:00,120 --> 02:35:04,480
Speaker 4: pedophile James Madison, all of these white men who are

2743
02:35:04,520 --> 02:35:09,480
Speaker 4: the constitutional fathers of this country in slaves African people

2744
02:35:10,000 --> 02:35:15,720
Speaker 4: and had sexual relationships with their female men, women, boys

2745
02:35:15,920 --> 02:35:19,680
Speaker 4: and girls. That's real, that's documented. So I don't hold

2746
02:35:19,720 --> 02:35:22,160
Speaker 4: these people high up on the pedestal. I see the

2747
02:35:22,240 --> 02:35:26,440
Speaker 4: Constitution as an incredible document for a flawed document, and

2748
02:35:26,520 --> 02:35:30,240
Speaker 4: so these amendments to the Constitution were written in order

2749
02:35:30,320 --> 02:35:32,880
Speaker 4: to correct some of the flaws. But we also need

2750
02:35:32,959 --> 02:35:36,920
Speaker 4: to understand that there have always been forcing, demonic forces

2751
02:35:37,120 --> 02:35:41,119
Speaker 4: at work in this government. We got to be honest

2752
02:35:41,200 --> 02:35:46,320
Speaker 4: with ourselves and that this country was established not as

2753
02:35:46,360 --> 02:35:52,080
Speaker 4: a democracy but as a slave oocracy, a corptocracy, it

2754
02:35:52,200 --> 02:35:56,040
Speaker 4: was a corporations, it was businesses. When this country was established,

2755
02:35:56,280 --> 02:36:00,560
Speaker 4: only wealthy white men over the age of twenty one,

2756
02:36:00,760 --> 02:36:04,680
Speaker 4: who were landowners, they were the only ones allowed to

2757
02:36:04,840 --> 02:36:08,680
Speaker 4: participate in this government. So we've been had, we been hood,

2758
02:36:08,720 --> 02:36:12,520
Speaker 4: we we've been bambuzom. And now, if nothing else, the

2759
02:36:12,640 --> 02:36:16,200
Speaker 4: last twelve months have demonstrated to us very clearly as

2760
02:36:16,280 --> 02:36:20,879
Speaker 4: to how this government has always functioned. Big business people

2761
02:36:21,280 --> 02:36:25,279
Speaker 4: have always bought the politicians who have written the laws

2762
02:36:25,680 --> 02:36:30,320
Speaker 4: that preferred them big businesses. So we're seeing that like

2763
02:36:30,480 --> 02:36:33,120
Speaker 4: never before. We need to accept that reality. So the

2764
02:36:33,240 --> 02:36:38,959
Speaker 4: Supreme Court works for politicians, and politicians work for big government.

2765
02:36:39,200 --> 02:36:45,160
Speaker 4: So we've been seeing corporations acknowledged as individuals. We've been

2766
02:36:45,200 --> 02:36:48,520
Speaker 4: seeing the chipping away of human rights. So it's not

2767
02:36:48,680 --> 02:36:51,880
Speaker 4: just black folk who are in trouble. Everybody in this

2768
02:36:52,000 --> 02:36:55,920
Speaker 4: country is in trouble. And it could happen in June

2769
02:36:56,120 --> 02:36:58,879
Speaker 4: July of next year, as you stated, it could happen

2770
02:36:58,920 --> 02:37:01,480
Speaker 4: at the end of this year. It happened you ask

2771
02:37:01,520 --> 02:37:07,080
Speaker 4: the Nates. But what's inevitable is that this country is declining.

2772
02:37:07,480 --> 02:37:11,879
Speaker 4: It's rapidly declining. And so I don't know when it's

2773
02:37:11,959 --> 02:37:15,960
Speaker 4: going to hit rock bottom, but it's clear we're witnessing

2774
02:37:16,040 --> 02:37:21,360
Speaker 4: right now the disintegration maga. We're seeing the rats jumping,

2775
02:37:21,480 --> 02:37:25,760
Speaker 4: the shipping, the sinking ship. Martinie Taylor Green is going.

2776
02:37:26,200 --> 02:37:30,480
Speaker 4: Other Republicans now have finally gotten a spy and stinking

2777
02:37:30,560 --> 02:37:33,440
Speaker 4: out against all of the corrupt things that are happening

2778
02:37:33,760 --> 02:37:35,120
Speaker 4: by this current administration.

2779
02:37:36,800 --> 02:37:39,200
Speaker 1: Right there, Tony, I'll let you expounded that when we

2780
02:37:39,320 --> 02:37:41,240
Speaker 1: come back, and they also tell us too. For the

2781
02:37:41,280 --> 02:37:43,440
Speaker 1: folks that didn't hear when you first made that announcement,

2782
02:37:43,800 --> 02:37:46,800
Speaker 1: a cataclyst making that bring us all together, explain why

2783
02:37:46,840 --> 02:37:49,640
Speaker 1: you said that and explain what all that means. Family,

2784
02:37:49,720 --> 02:37:52,360
Speaker 1: You two can get in on this conversation with Tony Browner.

2785
02:37:52,480 --> 02:37:54,960
Speaker 1: Reach out to us at eight hundred four five zero

2786
02:37:55,400 --> 02:37:57,760
Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls

2787
02:37:58,000 --> 02:38:00,520
Speaker 1: next time. Grind rising family, and thankious ticking with us

2788
02:38:00,560 --> 02:38:02,800
Speaker 1: on this Thursday morning. And I guess this chematologist brother

2789
02:38:02,879 --> 02:38:04,440
Speaker 1: Tony brown it's got a new book out. We're going

2790
02:38:04,480 --> 02:38:06,640
Speaker 1: to talk about his book as well. Before we left,

2791
02:38:07,400 --> 02:38:10,760
Speaker 1: Gregory Brother, Gregory and Charlotte, I said that I wanted

2792
02:38:10,879 --> 02:38:14,160
Speaker 1: some explanation about what he thinks would be this clatachismic

2793
02:38:14,280 --> 02:38:16,720
Speaker 1: event that will bring black people together. I mean, just

2794
02:38:17,200 --> 02:38:19,440
Speaker 1: like before I let Tony respond, just we just found

2795
02:38:19,440 --> 02:38:22,720
Speaker 1: out yesterday the black unemployment rates is swored to eight

2796
02:38:22,840 --> 02:38:25,840
Speaker 1: point three percent last month, and that's the highest level

2797
02:38:25,879 --> 02:38:29,440
Speaker 1: since the pandemic of four years ago. And so is

2798
02:38:30,040 --> 02:38:32,520
Speaker 1: could that be or could be what brother Gregory talked about?

2799
02:38:32,600 --> 02:38:33,119
Speaker 1: Brother Tony?

2800
02:38:34,480 --> 02:38:38,400
Speaker 4: Sure, so, car you asked me to comment on the

2801
02:38:38,480 --> 02:38:41,440
Speaker 4: statements that I've made in previous appearances on the show

2802
02:38:41,720 --> 02:38:44,760
Speaker 4: about a catechorism, and what we know this is basic

2803
02:38:44,879 --> 02:38:49,440
Speaker 4: human nature. It takes a catastrophe to force people to

2804
02:38:49,520 --> 02:38:51,760
Speaker 4: come together and do the things that they should have

2805
02:38:51,800 --> 02:38:55,279
Speaker 4: been doing a long time ago, whether that catastrophe is Katrina,

2806
02:38:55,760 --> 02:39:00,640
Speaker 4: or is an earthquake in Haiti or to make or

2807
02:39:00,760 --> 02:39:03,040
Speaker 4: any other part of the world. So it takes a

2808
02:39:03,280 --> 02:39:07,480
Speaker 4: tragedy for people to stop being selfish and to begin

2809
02:39:07,680 --> 02:39:10,600
Speaker 4: to come together for their own collective interests. The fires

2810
02:39:10,920 --> 02:39:17,080
Speaker 4: in California in La last last January are catastrophes. So

2811
02:39:17,280 --> 02:39:19,920
Speaker 4: what I wanted your listeners to look at is don't

2812
02:39:20,040 --> 02:39:24,840
Speaker 4: just look at one catastrophe. Life is a series of catastrophes.

2813
02:39:25,240 --> 02:39:28,680
Speaker 4: Right life is a series of catastrophes. My offer was

2814
02:39:28,720 --> 02:39:32,760
Speaker 4: a catastrophe. Jim Crow was a catastrophe. The end of

2815
02:39:32,879 --> 02:39:36,879
Speaker 4: Dea is a catastrophe. The burden in conference with Europeans

2816
02:39:36,920 --> 02:39:40,720
Speaker 4: deciding to carver up Africa and colonize Africa was a catastrophe.

2817
02:39:40,840 --> 02:39:44,480
Speaker 4: We've always dealt with catastrophes. The key is how do

2818
02:39:44,560 --> 02:39:47,360
Speaker 4: we dig our way out. That's the important thing. You

2819
02:39:47,440 --> 02:39:50,000
Speaker 4: don't wait to get in trouble to start figuring out

2820
02:39:50,000 --> 02:39:52,760
Speaker 4: what you should be doing. Now the time to begin

2821
02:39:53,240 --> 02:39:57,720
Speaker 4: to start planning right, So you don't wait until you're

2822
02:39:57,800 --> 02:40:02,000
Speaker 4: ill to start focusing on getting better. A smart person

2823
02:40:02,120 --> 02:40:05,320
Speaker 4: find ways to take steps to prevent from getting illness.

2824
02:40:05,560 --> 02:40:08,920
Speaker 4: And so it's important that we understand me. Let me

2825
02:40:09,000 --> 02:40:10,680
Speaker 4: just share this with the car because it helps to

2826
02:40:11,560 --> 02:40:15,800
Speaker 4: put things into context. John Jackson one of my favorite scholars,

2827
02:40:16,160 --> 02:40:18,160
Speaker 4: one of my favorite scholars of all time, because he

2828
02:40:18,280 --> 02:40:20,240
Speaker 4: was so real, He was so down, He was so

2829
02:40:20,680 --> 02:40:24,360
Speaker 4: plain and basic. John Jackson said the masters are asses.

2830
02:40:24,959 --> 02:40:26,400
Speaker 4: In other words, what he was saying is that the

2831
02:40:26,560 --> 02:40:30,560
Speaker 4: majority of people are stupid. Why not because people are

2832
02:40:30,680 --> 02:40:35,720
Speaker 4: naturally stupid, They've been socialized they've been miseducated to be dysfunctional.

2833
02:40:35,959 --> 02:40:38,520
Speaker 4: And so the more dysfunctional you are, the more you

2834
02:40:38,600 --> 02:40:45,040
Speaker 4: can be exploited by big business and politicians and ministers.

2835
02:40:45,120 --> 02:40:47,360
Speaker 4: Let's be let's be real, let's just talk truth. And

2836
02:40:47,480 --> 02:40:52,480
Speaker 4: so there's always been people who have separated themselves from

2837
02:40:52,520 --> 02:40:57,400
Speaker 4: the masters, who've studied, who've traveled, who have been viewed

2838
02:40:57,440 --> 02:41:00,760
Speaker 4: as outsiders, but they were the ones who preserves the

2839
02:41:00,879 --> 02:41:04,359
Speaker 4: information that was going to be used to jumpstart civilization

2840
02:41:04,440 --> 02:41:08,000
Speaker 4: when it falls. So every time there's a catastrophe, there's

2841
02:41:08,120 --> 02:41:12,000
Speaker 4: always people who helped jump start things again and things

2842
02:41:12,160 --> 02:41:15,680
Speaker 4: come back better. So Black people, African people have gone

2843
02:41:15,720 --> 02:41:18,720
Speaker 4: through more catastaphes than anybody else. So we know how

2844
02:41:18,800 --> 02:41:21,520
Speaker 4: to survive, we know how to come back. Gets in

2845
02:41:21,720 --> 02:41:23,760
Speaker 4: us and so what we need to begin to do

2846
02:41:24,280 --> 02:41:26,920
Speaker 4: is to prepare ourselves for the catastrophes in a coming

2847
02:41:27,200 --> 02:41:30,880
Speaker 4: where there's the events that Gregory was talking about in

2848
02:41:31,360 --> 02:41:35,080
Speaker 4: in July of next year, or something else that we

2849
02:41:35,200 --> 02:41:38,920
Speaker 4: don't know of that's handled our way. Be prepared. That's

2850
02:41:38,920 --> 02:41:41,120
Speaker 4: the old boy scout battle. Be prepared. And let me

2851
02:41:41,200 --> 02:41:43,480
Speaker 4: just share a couple of things with you and your

2852
02:41:43,520 --> 02:41:45,920
Speaker 4: listener's car before we move forward to the next caller.

2853
02:41:46,480 --> 02:41:52,880
Speaker 4: The House of Representative just pass bill HR fifty HR

2854
02:41:53,000 --> 02:41:56,240
Speaker 4: fifty one. There's a law that the white members of

2855
02:41:56,400 --> 02:41:59,840
Speaker 4: Congress have passed in the District of Columbia to lower

2856
02:41:59,920 --> 02:42:03,400
Speaker 4: the age that a child could be charged as an

2857
02:42:03,440 --> 02:42:06,959
Speaker 4: adult for a crime. That age has been lowered from

2858
02:42:07,040 --> 02:42:10,280
Speaker 4: sixteen to fourteen. Now, who is that gonna impact. That's

2859
02:42:10,280 --> 02:42:14,200
Speaker 4: gonna impact young black boys primarily, and what does that mean.

2860
02:42:14,440 --> 02:42:17,040
Speaker 4: It means the white folks have already taken over Chocolate City.

2861
02:42:17,040 --> 02:42:19,960
Speaker 4: It ain't Chocolate City no more is late Land. And

2862
02:42:20,120 --> 02:42:23,960
Speaker 4: since the mayor Mario Bauser has announced that she's not

2863
02:42:24,080 --> 02:42:27,760
Speaker 4: gonna run for re election for a fourth term, the

2864
02:42:27,959 --> 02:42:31,720
Speaker 4: stage is set. And listen to me very carefully, particularly

2865
02:42:31,840 --> 02:42:37,360
Speaker 4: you Native Washingtonians. The stage is set for DC to

2866
02:42:37,480 --> 02:42:41,680
Speaker 4: have his first white mayor. What I'm afraid could happen

2867
02:42:42,400 --> 02:42:47,720
Speaker 4: is that black politicians on the city Council are gonna

2868
02:42:47,760 --> 02:42:50,640
Speaker 4: also their hat in the ring, and they're gonna divide

2869
02:42:50,720 --> 02:42:53,480
Speaker 4: the black vote and the white person is gonna come

2870
02:42:53,560 --> 02:42:56,880
Speaker 4: in and win the majority share of the votes and

2871
02:42:57,000 --> 02:43:01,360
Speaker 4: become the next mayor of DC. That's a strong possibility

2872
02:43:01,640 --> 02:43:03,840
Speaker 4: that it will happen the next year's election, and if

2873
02:43:03,879 --> 02:43:07,360
Speaker 4: it does, you'll see another catastrophe in the making, because

2874
02:43:07,800 --> 02:43:11,720
Speaker 4: I've been saying this for years, but I see it coming.

2875
02:43:12,120 --> 02:43:16,280
Speaker 4: When DC gets a white mayor, then it won't be

2876
02:43:16,400 --> 02:43:21,279
Speaker 4: long before DC gets Stagshood and DC will get statehood.

2877
02:43:21,440 --> 02:43:23,720
Speaker 4: And if you look at where things are going politically

2878
02:43:24,280 --> 02:43:27,200
Speaker 4: d C. The Republicans are running d C right now.

2879
02:43:27,560 --> 02:43:30,600
Speaker 4: They're running this town like gangsters, like al Capone ran

2880
02:43:30,640 --> 02:43:33,680
Speaker 4: in Chicago. And so I would not be surprised if

2881
02:43:33,680 --> 02:43:37,080
Speaker 4: they're going to throw dark money into this upcoming president

2882
02:43:37,160 --> 02:43:40,360
Speaker 4: to race and get a white candidate, sow money behind

2883
02:43:40,400 --> 02:43:43,000
Speaker 4: them so that they become the mayor, and they slip

2884
02:43:43,280 --> 02:43:46,240
Speaker 4: and become a Republican and d C then will become

2885
02:43:46,280 --> 02:43:49,280
Speaker 4: a Republican land city and DC will get stays heod.

2886
02:43:49,400 --> 02:43:52,160
Speaker 4: There's a reality, there's a very strong reality that that

2887
02:43:52,440 --> 02:43:56,520
Speaker 4: could happen. And consider this Bury Bowser trying to appease

2888
02:43:57,320 --> 02:44:01,920
Speaker 4: the current president of the United States eracing over Black

2889
02:44:02,040 --> 02:44:05,920
Speaker 4: Lives Matter Plaza, see race over that street. And now

2890
02:44:06,040 --> 02:44:11,440
Speaker 4: there's talk in DC of white folk renaming what used

2891
02:44:11,440 --> 02:44:15,279
Speaker 4: to be Black Lives Matter Plaza. To Charlie Kirk plaza.

2892
02:44:15,800 --> 02:44:20,760
Speaker 4: All right, Charlie kirk Plaza, this racist white Christian Let's

2893
02:44:20,840 --> 02:44:24,800
Speaker 4: be clear. He used Christianity as a means to gavanize

2894
02:44:24,920 --> 02:44:28,640
Speaker 4: white people and their hatred for black folk and immigrants.

2895
02:44:28,840 --> 02:44:31,760
Speaker 4: So we gotta be real. This is a catastrophe. And

2896
02:44:31,800 --> 02:44:34,480
Speaker 4: if we don't understand how religion has been used as

2897
02:44:34,520 --> 02:44:39,360
Speaker 4: a means to divide people, we'll be bamboozed again. All Right,

2898
02:44:39,480 --> 02:44:41,800
Speaker 4: we can go to the next Cali, carl all right.

2899
02:44:41,920 --> 02:44:43,920
Speaker 1: Twenty eight. At the top of that next call is

2900
02:44:44,000 --> 02:44:47,400
Speaker 1: Panther calling from Washington, DC's online to Grand Rising. Panther,

2901
02:44:47,520 --> 02:44:53,640
Speaker 1: you're on with Tony Browner. It's Panther out there. All right,

2902
02:44:53,959 --> 02:44:54,879
Speaker 1: let's let's move on.

2903
02:44:54,920 --> 02:44:55,960
Speaker 4: To hear me.

2904
02:44:56,560 --> 02:45:00,560
Speaker 14: Yeah, we can hear you out, Okay, grand to you

2905
02:45:00,760 --> 02:45:03,320
Speaker 14: and your distinguished just learning so much.

2906
02:45:03,240 --> 02:45:03,840
Speaker 4: From you both.

2907
02:45:04,560 --> 02:45:06,480
Speaker 5: I would like to say this, You know, we in

2908
02:45:06,600 --> 02:45:08,600
Speaker 5: the times where we need to really.

2909
02:45:08,520 --> 02:45:13,240
Speaker 14: Seek the truth and just know who's oppressing us, exploiting us,

2910
02:45:13,760 --> 02:45:18,520
Speaker 14: who's greedy, who's causing all this confusion, who's just been

2911
02:45:19,120 --> 02:45:22,520
Speaker 14: killing us year after year after year. And I think

2912
02:45:22,600 --> 02:45:25,480
Speaker 14: the only way we're gonna really ever have true peace

2913
02:45:26,080 --> 02:45:32,640
Speaker 14: is take out that chosen few because until we do,

2914
02:45:33,560 --> 02:45:35,800
Speaker 14: they on a march now where they just trying to

2915
02:45:35,879 --> 02:45:41,840
Speaker 14: take full control of greed, colonization, lines, stealing, double dealing,

2916
02:45:42,440 --> 02:45:45,960
Speaker 14: until we all come together and say, I'm saying, we

2917
02:45:47,160 --> 02:45:51,000
Speaker 14: those that really want true peace and justice and equality,

2918
02:45:51,640 --> 02:45:54,200
Speaker 14: black or white, mostly black, because we're the ones that

2919
02:45:54,400 --> 02:45:58,760
Speaker 14: suffer from these devils, mostly until we all come together

2920
02:45:58,920 --> 02:46:02,760
Speaker 14: as one, because they made weapon is a divide and

2921
02:46:02,879 --> 02:46:05,320
Speaker 14: conquer and they know as long as they can keep

2922
02:46:05,400 --> 02:46:09,240
Speaker 14: us divide and conquer, they gonna use the your double

2923
02:46:09,440 --> 02:46:13,840
Speaker 14: means to continue to explore us, oppress us, kill us,

2924
02:46:14,920 --> 02:46:18,680
Speaker 14: rule over us, and for the reasons of greed and

2925
02:46:18,800 --> 02:46:21,600
Speaker 14: lust and whatever else they got in mind, until we

2926
02:46:21,800 --> 02:46:23,760
Speaker 14: come together and say enough.

2927
02:46:24,520 --> 02:46:26,560
Speaker 1: Introduce family, because we've got a bunch of folks want

2928
02:46:26,560 --> 02:46:28,800
Speaker 1: to talk to Brother Tom. We got the gist, got it,

2929
02:46:28,879 --> 02:46:29,560
Speaker 1: I got it, I got it.

2930
02:46:29,840 --> 02:46:31,360
Speaker 4: I gotta stay in the car, you can, you can

2931
02:46:31,400 --> 02:46:35,959
Speaker 4: kind of loose man. The bottom line question, how we're

2932
02:46:35,959 --> 02:46:38,520
Speaker 4: gonna come together to save ourselves? I got it, I

2933
02:46:38,600 --> 02:46:42,720
Speaker 4: got it. That's the kids. We're not gonna come together,

2934
02:46:43,200 --> 02:46:46,680
Speaker 4: all right. When we are not gonna come together, we

2935
02:46:46,879 --> 02:46:50,120
Speaker 4: have to come We have to first together within ourselves.

2936
02:46:50,600 --> 02:46:53,240
Speaker 4: So My question you've paid is what are you doing

2937
02:46:53,560 --> 02:46:55,920
Speaker 4: to make your life better? What are you doing to

2938
02:46:56,000 --> 02:46:58,480
Speaker 4: make your community better? What are you doing to make

2939
02:46:58,560 --> 02:47:02,440
Speaker 4: your family stronger? That's where it starts. And so when

2940
02:47:02,480 --> 02:47:04,920
Speaker 4: you have to model that for everybody in your household

2941
02:47:05,080 --> 02:47:09,400
Speaker 4: and everybody in your community. So until every individual does that,

2942
02:47:09,720 --> 02:47:12,520
Speaker 4: there is no weed, there is no coming together. So

2943
02:47:12,879 --> 02:47:16,120
Speaker 4: the oldest has always been on us. The solutions to

2944
02:47:16,280 --> 02:47:20,040
Speaker 4: all of our problems have always been within us. So

2945
02:47:20,200 --> 02:47:23,400
Speaker 4: people need to stop talking, People need to stop preaching,

2946
02:47:23,640 --> 02:47:27,360
Speaker 4: people need to start doing doing. That's the only thing

2947
02:47:27,480 --> 02:47:31,400
Speaker 4: that matters. That's the only thing that counts. Stop complaining.

2948
02:47:32,800 --> 02:47:37,680
Speaker 4: I'm not but I'm just listen to me, brother, listen

2949
02:47:37,760 --> 02:47:40,879
Speaker 4: to me, all right, because I'm not talking about you specifically.

2950
02:47:41,120 --> 02:47:43,520
Speaker 4: I'm just putting some thoughts out here. So what I

2951
02:47:43,520 --> 02:47:45,320
Speaker 4: would love for you to do. What I would love

2952
02:47:45,400 --> 02:47:48,080
Speaker 4: to hear you say the next time you call in

2953
02:47:48,240 --> 02:47:51,720
Speaker 4: on the show, this is what I'm doing. These are

2954
02:47:51,760 --> 02:47:54,720
Speaker 4: your folk in my community who I'm working with to

2955
02:47:54,879 --> 02:47:58,720
Speaker 4: help secure my community. Were getting rid of the drug boys.

2956
02:47:58,959 --> 02:48:02,160
Speaker 4: We're making our community safe so our children can play outside.

2957
02:48:02,320 --> 02:48:04,160
Speaker 4: That's what I want to hear you say, because that's

2958
02:48:04,160 --> 02:48:06,440
Speaker 4: where it starts. I want to see you model that.

2959
02:48:06,840 --> 02:48:09,160
Speaker 4: I want to see you demonstrate that for other people

2960
02:48:09,200 --> 02:48:12,040
Speaker 4: who are looking to you for an example. That's where

2961
02:48:12,040 --> 02:48:14,879
Speaker 4: it begins, all right. So we don't have to wait

2962
02:48:14,959 --> 02:48:16,120
Speaker 4: for somebody to save us.

2963
02:48:16,400 --> 02:48:17,320
Speaker 1: We have to save.

2964
02:48:17,200 --> 02:48:22,080
Speaker 4: Ourselves, and we begin it by making a declaration of independence,

2965
02:48:22,120 --> 02:48:25,600
Speaker 4: to free ourselves and modeling that for every black lives

2966
02:48:25,640 --> 02:48:28,880
Speaker 4: that matters to us. That's how it starts. Brother, to

2967
02:48:29,000 --> 02:48:32,600
Speaker 4: start where you are and build out from there. Thanks man, Dad,

2968
02:48:32,760 --> 02:48:33,760
Speaker 4: I'm asking you to do that.

2969
02:48:35,040 --> 02:48:36,520
Speaker 1: Twenty get away from the top of YEA. Let's go

2970
02:48:36,560 --> 02:48:40,039
Speaker 1: to line five. Go Chicago, brother, and Kelsey's waiting for us.

2971
02:48:40,520 --> 02:48:43,040
Speaker 1: Grand rising brother and Kochy your question for a brother,

2972
02:48:43,120 --> 02:48:44,080
Speaker 1: Tony Browner.

2973
02:48:45,040 --> 02:48:50,120
Speaker 6: Grand right, uh and Yambo, My brothers. I would like

2974
02:48:50,280 --> 02:48:54,400
Speaker 6: to thank Brother Milder for the kept ray grade and

2975
02:48:54,640 --> 02:49:01,760
Speaker 6: amen contributions to my daily prayer. Have a question, a

2976
02:49:02,040 --> 02:49:06,120
Speaker 6: historical question. I'm an errodact compared to Europe about but

2977
02:49:07,520 --> 02:49:10,720
Speaker 6: I want you to critique the validity of this statement

2978
02:49:11,520 --> 02:49:16,720
Speaker 6: that South Africa the Zulu were among the last to

2979
02:49:16,879 --> 02:49:21,840
Speaker 6: be colonized by outside forces on the County of Africa

2980
02:49:22,520 --> 02:49:28,520
Speaker 6: and the Ethiopia, which was an empire of various extents

2981
02:49:28,720 --> 02:49:33,520
Speaker 6: at different times, was once colonized in Lower Egypt by

2982
02:49:36,360 --> 02:49:40,240
Speaker 6: Arab Muslim. If you could critique that statement for me

2983
02:49:40,280 --> 02:49:43,240
Speaker 6: and my brother, I would appreciate it. And I'll hang

2984
02:49:43,320 --> 02:49:45,040
Speaker 6: up and miss Sante Son.

2985
02:49:45,200 --> 02:49:51,600
Speaker 4: Okay, sure I didn't fully grasp your question, but if

2986
02:49:51,640 --> 02:49:53,920
Speaker 4: I can do the best I can to answer base

2987
02:49:54,000 --> 02:49:56,480
Speaker 4: on what I I think I heard. Well, what I

2988
02:49:56,480 --> 02:49:59,840
Speaker 4: can say this about Ethiopia, it's the northern part of Ethiopia,

2989
02:50:00,720 --> 02:50:04,320
Speaker 4: where the Muslims are. In the southern part of Ethiopia

2990
02:50:04,879 --> 02:50:07,280
Speaker 4: is where you have what I refer to as the

2991
02:50:07,440 --> 02:50:13,080
Speaker 4: root culture, where you have the people who were essentially

2992
02:50:13,160 --> 02:50:17,720
Speaker 4: responsible for developing what later became the essence of non

2993
02:50:17,800 --> 02:50:22,360
Speaker 4: valley civilization. Within southern Ethiopia, you have the people who

2994
02:50:22,480 --> 02:50:26,360
Speaker 4: have a festival it's called the Richie Festival, in which

2995
02:50:26,440 --> 02:50:31,520
Speaker 4: they literally commemorate what we refer to him as is

2996
02:50:31,680 --> 02:50:34,720
Speaker 4: sorry and drama and that story. And I got this

2997
02:50:34,800 --> 02:50:38,760
Speaker 4: from Holly Grima and Ethiopia himself, filmmaker used to teach

2998
02:50:38,760 --> 02:50:42,640
Speaker 4: at Howard University, was thank over a bookstoring video. The

2999
02:50:43,280 --> 02:50:47,320
Speaker 4: Richie Festival acknowledges the story the fame of the myth

3000
02:50:47,600 --> 02:50:49,720
Speaker 4: of a sorry as set and that story comes out

3001
02:50:49,800 --> 02:50:52,640
Speaker 4: of Ethiopia, and it's over ten thousand years old. And

3002
02:50:52,760 --> 02:50:57,360
Speaker 4: so the point that I think you were making is

3003
02:50:57,600 --> 02:51:03,680
Speaker 4: that we have within African culture, ancient African culture, all

3004
02:51:03,800 --> 02:51:08,439
Speaker 4: the tools we need to liberate us. We have God concepts,

3005
02:51:08,920 --> 02:51:13,560
Speaker 4: we have family values and traditions that are thousands of

3006
02:51:13,720 --> 02:51:17,760
Speaker 4: years old and are just waiting now to be rediscovered

3007
02:51:18,040 --> 02:51:21,400
Speaker 4: and applied in our lives. So what I would ask

3008
02:51:21,959 --> 02:51:24,360
Speaker 4: those sisters and brothers who are interested in making a

3009
02:51:24,480 --> 02:51:30,080
Speaker 4: meaningful contribution to our society, study those cultures. I am

3010
02:51:30,160 --> 02:51:32,880
Speaker 4: an aspect of that culture that you can relate to,

3011
02:51:33,040 --> 02:51:36,800
Speaker 4: that you can articulate, and then share that knowledge with

3012
02:51:37,000 --> 02:51:41,120
Speaker 4: black folk in your community, to educate, to enlighten, to

3013
02:51:41,240 --> 02:51:45,360
Speaker 4: empower young sisters and brothers in your community, and then

3014
02:51:45,480 --> 02:51:49,039
Speaker 4: spread that outward. That's how we do this thing. That's

3015
02:51:49,120 --> 02:51:54,920
Speaker 4: how we ensure our continued existence regards as to any

3016
02:51:55,480 --> 02:51:59,520
Speaker 4: our catasrophe that may be awaiting us. And the other

3017
02:51:59,600 --> 02:52:05,480
Speaker 4: thing is, again I'm glad that the statement that Miss

3018
02:52:05,560 --> 02:52:09,640
Speaker 4: Hugh's aired again in the last break, Miss Hughes says

3019
02:52:09,959 --> 02:52:15,120
Speaker 4: the change is inevitable, but how you handle change determines

3020
02:52:15,400 --> 02:52:19,080
Speaker 4: your future. So now is the time to begin to

3021
02:52:19,200 --> 02:52:23,560
Speaker 4: prepare yourself for the inevitable changes that are coming. And

3022
02:52:23,720 --> 02:52:28,600
Speaker 4: by doing so, preparing yourself properly, you can prepare yourself

3023
02:52:28,640 --> 02:52:32,040
Speaker 4: for all of the futures that are to come. The

3024
02:52:32,160 --> 02:52:38,000
Speaker 4: future is indefinite. The future is always coming. It's always coming,

3025
02:52:38,280 --> 02:52:40,960
Speaker 4: and so we're going to be a part. Aspects of

3026
02:52:41,080 --> 02:52:44,520
Speaker 4: ourselves would be a part of every future. So what

3027
02:52:44,760 --> 02:52:49,800
Speaker 4: aspect of yourself do you want to benefit from the

3028
02:52:49,959 --> 02:52:52,240
Speaker 4: futures that you have set in motion right now? So

3029
02:52:52,440 --> 02:52:55,800
Speaker 4: what you do today, what you do now, determines the

3030
02:52:55,959 --> 02:52:59,360
Speaker 4: rest of your lives. And that's you know. That would

3031
02:52:59,360 --> 02:53:01,600
Speaker 4: be if I had a Christmas gifts to give to

3032
02:53:01,640 --> 02:53:04,600
Speaker 4: your listener's call, it will be that, don't spend your

3033
02:53:04,680 --> 02:53:09,240
Speaker 4: money next week buying gifts, making corporations even richer and

3034
02:53:09,360 --> 02:53:12,880
Speaker 4: you going into debt the following year. Spend your time

3035
02:53:13,040 --> 02:53:16,439
Speaker 4: being steal Next Sunday, the twenty first, is the Solstics.

3036
02:53:16,840 --> 02:53:19,240
Speaker 4: That is when you should be still and get to

3037
02:53:19,360 --> 02:53:22,680
Speaker 4: know your God by whatever name you call your God.

3038
02:53:22,959 --> 02:53:25,960
Speaker 4: For those four days, you should be a meditation, You

3039
02:53:26,000 --> 02:53:29,120
Speaker 4: should be in prayer, you should be fasting, You should

3040
02:53:29,160 --> 02:53:32,879
Speaker 4: not be gorging yourselves. You should not be going out

3041
02:53:33,120 --> 02:53:38,000
Speaker 4: to parties and chasing skirt and drinking alcohol. You should

3042
02:53:38,000 --> 02:53:42,080
Speaker 4: be steale. You should center yourself so that on December

3043
02:53:42,080 --> 02:53:45,600
Speaker 4: of the twenty fifth, the day six thousand years ago

3044
02:53:45,680 --> 02:53:49,520
Speaker 4: when the sun, the sun was born, a new you

3045
02:53:49,879 --> 02:53:53,520
Speaker 4: can be born, a new consciousness can come forth and

3046
02:53:53,680 --> 02:53:56,640
Speaker 4: create a new life in a better world. That is

3047
02:53:56,720 --> 02:53:59,720
Speaker 4: the opportunity that is given to every person on this

3048
02:53:59,760 --> 02:54:03,200
Speaker 4: place in it every single year. And so when you

3049
02:54:03,440 --> 02:54:06,640
Speaker 4: know these principles and concepts and ideas, when you align

3050
02:54:06,760 --> 02:54:10,279
Speaker 4: yourself to these teachings, which are older than the Koran,

3051
02:54:10,640 --> 02:54:14,080
Speaker 4: older than the Bible, older than the Torah, you will

3052
02:54:14,200 --> 02:54:18,240
Speaker 4: find this wisdom that has always been waiting for you.

3053
02:54:18,480 --> 02:54:22,480
Speaker 4: To be still and to hear the voice of your ancestors,

3054
02:54:23,560 --> 02:54:26,720
Speaker 4: embrace you in their loving arms and tell you what

3055
02:54:27,080 --> 02:54:29,560
Speaker 4: you need to do, which you need to do for yourself,

3056
02:54:29,800 --> 02:54:34,280
Speaker 4: not for anybody else, but for yourself. Start with yourself. First,

3057
02:54:34,840 --> 02:54:40,520
Speaker 4: Start with your household. First, get your family together, build

3058
02:54:40,680 --> 02:54:44,720
Speaker 4: for eternity within your household, and then move forward into

3059
02:54:44,800 --> 02:54:47,959
Speaker 4: the world. And then joint hands with other people who

3060
02:54:48,040 --> 02:54:50,520
Speaker 4: have done the same, and you will see the world

3061
02:54:50,680 --> 02:54:52,359
Speaker 4: become a mess better.

3062
02:54:52,200 --> 02:54:55,280
Speaker 1: Place, well said, Hold up, all right, then, Brother twenty

3063
02:54:55,320 --> 02:54:56,920
Speaker 1: got some more folks want to talk to you. Twenty

3064
02:54:56,959 --> 02:54:58,440
Speaker 1: two minutes away from the top day, I got to

3065
02:54:58,440 --> 02:55:00,360
Speaker 1: step aside for a couple of minutes. We're back with

3066
02:55:00,560 --> 02:55:03,120
Speaker 1: your questions for Tony Browder. You want to join this discussion,

3067
02:55:03,480 --> 02:55:05,440
Speaker 1: reach out to us at eight hundred four or five

3068
02:55:05,560 --> 02:55:08,360
Speaker 1: zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your phone

3069
02:55:08,400 --> 02:55:11,040
Speaker 1: calls next and grind rising family. Thanks for staying with

3070
02:55:11,160 --> 02:55:13,000
Speaker 1: us on this Thursday morning with I Guess. Then came

3071
02:55:13,000 --> 02:55:15,680
Speaker 1: a talks brother Tony Browder. Brother Tony's got a book

3072
02:55:15,720 --> 02:55:18,760
Speaker 1: coming out. It's called a Broader Perspective. My fifty year

3073
02:55:18,840 --> 02:55:22,360
Speaker 1: Journey to Enlightenment is from the Browder File, Volume three,

3074
02:55:22,480 --> 02:55:24,200
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be up before the end of the year.

3075
02:55:24,280 --> 02:55:25,920
Speaker 1: We'll talk more about and Antonio will tell us how

3076
02:55:25,920 --> 02:55:27,880
Speaker 1: you can I Guess pre order your copies before he

3077
02:55:28,000 --> 02:55:30,160
Speaker 1: leaves us this morning. Also want to remind you tomorrow

3078
02:55:30,280 --> 02:55:31,800
Speaker 1: is Friday, and this we'll give you a chance to

3079
02:55:32,160 --> 02:55:33,920
Speaker 1: free your mind. All that means is the thing for

3080
02:55:33,959 --> 02:55:37,880
Speaker 1: yourself and leave the talking points behind and show it's

3081
02:55:37,920 --> 02:55:40,400
Speaker 1: called an open phone Friday and you can start taking

3082
02:55:40,440 --> 02:55:42,360
Speaker 1: the We'll start taking the calls at six am Eastern

3083
02:55:42,400 --> 02:55:45,280
Speaker 1: time right here in Baltimore on ten ten WLB and

3084
02:55:45,320 --> 02:55:48,680
Speaker 1: also in the DMV on fourteen fifty w L. All right,

3085
02:55:49,200 --> 02:55:50,800
Speaker 1: brother Tony, got some more folks you want to talk

3086
02:55:50,800 --> 02:55:53,040
Speaker 1: to you. Cliff is calling us from Baltimore is online

3087
02:55:53,080 --> 02:55:55,760
Speaker 1: to grind Rising. Cliff your question for Tony.

3088
02:55:55,560 --> 02:55:58,920
Speaker 15: Browner, Gwen Rising, Kings and queens. From the sound of

3089
02:55:58,920 --> 02:56:01,760
Speaker 15: my voice, I was just started to ask what is

3090
02:56:01,840 --> 02:56:06,280
Speaker 15: the meaning of uh anti Semitic? And ke invite me

3091
02:56:06,400 --> 02:56:08,840
Speaker 15: on what does that mean? And how can they say

3092
02:56:08,879 --> 02:56:11,320
Speaker 15: to the anti Semitic if we are the true Jews?

3093
02:56:11,360 --> 02:56:14,120
Speaker 6: Are we not? Or slain?

3094
02:56:14,640 --> 02:56:16,400
Speaker 15: And I take my commerce off the thank you so much,

3095
02:56:16,440 --> 02:56:17,120
Speaker 15: I have a good dess.

3096
02:56:17,959 --> 02:56:22,000
Speaker 4: Well sure sure, sure, well, as Hissband says, he who

3097
02:56:22,080 --> 02:56:26,680
Speaker 4: controls the definition controls the conversation. So you have to

3098
02:56:26,760 --> 02:56:33,280
Speaker 4: first identify what a Semite is. Semi means partial, so

3099
02:56:33,480 --> 02:56:36,879
Speaker 4: a semie to someone who is the way the term

3100
02:56:36,920 --> 02:56:41,560
Speaker 4: has been used, who is part part semi right? So

3101
02:56:41,840 --> 02:56:45,680
Speaker 4: who are the semis? Arabs? Are semis Jews of Semis?

3102
02:56:46,160 --> 02:56:51,160
Speaker 4: And before these people were classified racially classified since there

3103
02:56:51,240 --> 02:56:54,160
Speaker 4: is no such thing as race. Talking about definitions, Uh,

3104
02:56:54,480 --> 02:56:59,040
Speaker 4: they were Africans, So anyone who is anti Semitic is

3105
02:56:59,240 --> 02:57:02,879
Speaker 4: anti those those group of people. So these are terms

3106
02:57:02,920 --> 02:57:06,200
Speaker 4: that have been used and misused and the viused and

3107
02:57:06,280 --> 02:57:10,680
Speaker 4: misinterpreted in order to divide people. So let's let's just

3108
02:57:10,800 --> 02:57:13,360
Speaker 4: be clear about a couple of things. There is this

3109
02:57:13,560 --> 02:57:20,160
Speaker 4: thing that has always been in existence called afrophobia, which

3110
02:57:20,240 --> 02:57:23,760
Speaker 4: is the fear of African people, a fear of black people,

3111
02:57:24,360 --> 02:57:29,520
Speaker 4: and that's that preceded anti Semitism. That has always been

3112
02:57:29,560 --> 02:57:33,160
Speaker 4: an issue, but it hasn't gotten the promotion as these

3113
02:57:33,200 --> 02:57:36,880
Speaker 4: other terms have gotten. We're not clear about who we

3114
02:57:36,959 --> 02:57:39,600
Speaker 4: are as African people. We got black folk now debating

3115
02:57:39,680 --> 02:57:43,120
Speaker 4: whether or not you know we're African or or or

3116
02:57:43,240 --> 02:57:45,960
Speaker 4: you know. This all has a confusion out here, and

3117
02:57:46,080 --> 02:57:48,560
Speaker 4: so the best way you can control the people is

3118
02:57:48,680 --> 02:57:51,440
Speaker 4: by divide and rule. So we have to be clear

3119
02:57:51,520 --> 02:57:55,520
Speaker 4: about definitions and the concepts associated with definitions. Which is

3120
02:57:55,560 --> 02:57:59,480
Speaker 4: why when Malcolm in his autobiography UH talked about when

3121
02:57:59,520 --> 02:58:02,480
Speaker 4: he was in print that he read the Dictionary from

3122
02:58:02,760 --> 02:58:06,519
Speaker 4: A to zre to be clear of our definitions and terminologies.

3123
02:58:06,760 --> 02:58:11,400
Speaker 4: So whoever determines definition controls the conversation, So make sure

3124
02:58:11,440 --> 02:58:15,119
Speaker 4: you know what you're talking about right, and then articulate

3125
02:58:15,240 --> 02:58:18,080
Speaker 4: your points of view to those people who you want

3126
02:58:18,160 --> 02:58:22,400
Speaker 4: to lift up. It's a waste of time to argue

3127
02:58:22,440 --> 02:58:25,160
Speaker 4: with your enemy. It's a waste of time to argue

3128
02:58:25,200 --> 02:58:29,400
Speaker 4: with the full has construction discussions with people who you

3129
02:58:29,440 --> 02:58:32,680
Speaker 4: can deal with. We don't have time to engage in arguments.

3130
02:58:33,040 --> 02:58:36,640
Speaker 4: We should be spending all of our time from this

3131
02:58:37,040 --> 02:58:42,800
Speaker 4: breath forward building with like minded people who understand what's

3132
02:58:42,840 --> 02:58:45,640
Speaker 4: at stake and are willing to commit themselves to something

3133
02:58:45,720 --> 02:58:49,320
Speaker 4: bigger than themselves. That's my response, brother, all.

3134
02:58:49,240 --> 02:58:51,680
Speaker 1: Right, fourteen away from the top of the elle, let's

3135
02:58:51,680 --> 02:58:55,279
Speaker 1: go to line five, average color from Prince George's County,

3136
02:58:55,640 --> 02:58:58,039
Speaker 1: Everett Grand Rising. Your question for Tony.

3137
02:58:57,800 --> 02:59:02,440
Speaker 16: Browner, My question rising for both of you. My question

3138
02:59:02,640 --> 02:59:06,720
Speaker 16: is when is mister Browner going to do Egypt on

3139
02:59:06,840 --> 02:59:10,760
Speaker 16: the now here in Washington, DC? And second of all,

3140
02:59:10,920 --> 02:59:14,359
Speaker 16: is he going to be sponsoring any more trips to Africa?

3141
02:59:14,400 --> 02:59:14,680
Speaker 6: Again?

3142
02:59:15,000 --> 02:59:17,760
Speaker 9: And so when thank you all.

3143
02:59:17,720 --> 02:59:20,840
Speaker 4: Right, cool, thank you brother for this opportunity to do

3144
02:59:20,959 --> 02:59:25,760
Speaker 4: a shameless plug. You can go to my website ikg

3145
02:59:26,000 --> 02:59:30,800
Speaker 4: danshinfo dot com IKG Dance I NFO dot com. You'll

3146
02:59:30,840 --> 02:59:35,280
Speaker 4: find information on my final study tours Egypt. I'm doing

3147
02:59:35,320 --> 02:59:39,080
Speaker 4: my last study tours Egypt in July next year. In

3148
02:59:39,200 --> 02:59:42,520
Speaker 4: December next year, I would have made seventy trips to

3149
02:59:42,600 --> 02:59:44,760
Speaker 4: Egypt by next year, and I'm ready to turn the

3150
02:59:44,840 --> 02:59:47,400
Speaker 4: page in this chapter of my life and start doing

3151
02:59:47,480 --> 02:59:50,840
Speaker 4: some other things. Those details on my website you mentioned

3152
02:59:50,879 --> 02:59:53,440
Speaker 4: our Egypt on the Matoming Field trip. Our field trip

3153
02:59:53,560 --> 02:59:58,480
Speaker 4: season runs from April through November. It's an outdoor activity,

3154
02:59:58,720 --> 03:00:01,360
Speaker 4: so we don't do them when they're whole. Next year,

3155
03:00:01,840 --> 03:00:06,279
Speaker 4: twenty twenty six will mark the fortieth anniversary of Egypt

3156
03:00:06,360 --> 03:00:09,480
Speaker 4: on the Potomac. I had no idea in nineteen eighty

3157
03:00:09,520 --> 03:00:12,040
Speaker 4: six when I started this thing that it would have

3158
03:00:12,760 --> 03:00:17,400
Speaker 4: this type of longevity, and so I'm always revisiting information.

3159
03:00:17,879 --> 03:00:20,760
Speaker 4: So our Egypt on the Potomac Field Trip for twenty

3160
03:00:20,800 --> 03:00:23,320
Speaker 4: twenty six is going to be profoundly different. I got

3161
03:00:23,440 --> 03:00:27,640
Speaker 4: new information as I've been sharing with folk. I'm now

3162
03:00:27,959 --> 03:00:31,720
Speaker 4: old enough to have a greater understanding of what I

3163
03:00:31,920 --> 03:00:35,680
Speaker 4: thought I knew. Right, I know a lot, but now

3164
03:00:35,720 --> 03:00:38,480
Speaker 4: I have a better understanding of what I thought I knew.

3165
03:00:38,760 --> 03:00:40,880
Speaker 4: I know how to connect the dots. I see how

3166
03:00:40,959 --> 03:00:43,720
Speaker 4: things are related in the manner of which I couldn't

3167
03:00:43,720 --> 03:00:47,600
Speaker 4: see before. So moving forward, my work is going to

3168
03:00:47,600 --> 03:00:50,560
Speaker 4: be upgraded. It's going to be a serious upgrade. It's

3169
03:00:50,600 --> 03:00:52,720
Speaker 4: going to be tighter than it was before. So Egypt

3170
03:00:52,760 --> 03:00:57,200
Speaker 4: on the Potomac is going to be a new experience.

3171
03:00:57,600 --> 03:01:00,600
Speaker 4: So you can go to our website get details or

3172
03:01:00,720 --> 03:01:03,960
Speaker 4: our schedule. It's not posted yet, so by the first

3173
03:01:03,959 --> 03:01:06,879
Speaker 4: and next year we'll have our new schedule up. Carl

3174
03:01:06,920 --> 03:01:09,160
Speaker 4: has mentioned I got a new book coming out. It

3175
03:01:09,440 --> 03:01:12,960
Speaker 4: just went to the printer day before yesterday. So the

3176
03:01:13,040 --> 03:01:17,440
Speaker 4: book won't be in bookstores until say the week of

3177
03:01:17,800 --> 03:01:22,640
Speaker 4: the eleventh of January, because it's got to be printed,

3178
03:01:22,840 --> 03:01:25,960
Speaker 4: it's got to ship to the distributors, and the distributors

3179
03:01:26,000 --> 03:01:28,760
Speaker 4: there have to distribute the books to the various bookstores.

3180
03:01:29,040 --> 03:01:31,080
Speaker 4: But you will be able to order the book on

3181
03:01:31,280 --> 03:01:34,760
Speaker 4: my website IKG dash info dot com. You won't be

3182
03:01:34,800 --> 03:01:36,920
Speaker 4: able to and I'm sure I'll be back on Carl

3183
03:01:37,080 --> 03:01:40,920
Speaker 4: Show before before the book is released to talk about it,

3184
03:01:41,240 --> 03:01:44,760
Speaker 4: but to give your heads up. Next Saturday, the twenty

3185
03:01:44,879 --> 03:01:47,840
Speaker 4: seventh of December, I'll be doing the Quanza event at

3186
03:01:47,959 --> 03:01:51,560
Speaker 4: Union Temple Baptist Church. Paul has promised me that I

3187
03:01:51,640 --> 03:01:53,720
Speaker 4: may have a couple of copies of the book available

3188
03:01:53,800 --> 03:01:58,280
Speaker 4: there to sell at that event. I promise, whether not

3189
03:01:58,480 --> 03:02:01,480
Speaker 4: to of everyone's place in Baltimore, that I'll do something

3190
03:02:02,400 --> 03:02:06,440
Speaker 4: for them for Quansa on the thirtieth of December in Baltimore,

3191
03:02:06,879 --> 03:02:10,519
Speaker 4: so stay tuned the brother Nazi and then on Saturday,

3192
03:02:11,280 --> 03:02:15,160
Speaker 4: January seventeenth, twenty twenty sixth, we will have the formal

3193
03:02:15,320 --> 03:02:20,360
Speaker 4: book launch of my tenth or eleventh publication from the

3194
03:02:20,400 --> 03:02:25,080
Speaker 4: Broader File, Volume three three, A Broader Perspective my fifteen

3195
03:02:25,120 --> 03:02:27,920
Speaker 4: year Journey to Enlightenment. That event will be held at

3196
03:02:27,959 --> 03:02:32,680
Speaker 4: the Third and Marshall Center, where offices our base eighteen

3197
03:02:32,760 --> 03:02:36,480
Speaker 4: sixteen twelve Street from noon to two. We'll be providing

3198
03:02:36,640 --> 03:02:40,440
Speaker 4: more details. Information will be on our website be posted

3199
03:02:40,520 --> 03:02:44,080
Speaker 4: on social media. So just stay tuned, continue to listen

3200
03:02:44,120 --> 03:02:48,400
Speaker 4: to Carl. I've taken some ads out. I'm following doctor

3201
03:02:48,440 --> 03:02:50,800
Speaker 4: Jerol Fox's lee and I'm going to take out some

3202
03:02:50,879 --> 03:02:54,120
Speaker 4: ads on WL, so you'll be hearing ads on WL

3203
03:02:54,800 --> 03:02:57,840
Speaker 4: advertising the book, and I encourage you all while you

3204
03:02:57,959 --> 03:03:01,520
Speaker 4: can get my book from from Amazon, you will be

3205
03:03:01,600 --> 03:03:04,080
Speaker 4: able to get it from white bookstores. I'm encouraging you.

3206
03:03:04,240 --> 03:03:08,480
Speaker 4: I'm begging you all to support black bookstores. Support Senko

3207
03:03:08,560 --> 03:03:12,840
Speaker 4: for video and books, support hogy Les, support Everyone's Place

3208
03:03:13,000 --> 03:03:17,280
Speaker 4: in Baltimore, support IKG, support black businesses. That's how you

3209
03:03:17,480 --> 03:03:21,480
Speaker 4: invest right, That's how you avoid calamities. Because all of

3210
03:03:21,600 --> 03:03:26,200
Speaker 4: these black bookstores are threatened by Amazon. Jeff Bezos has

3211
03:03:26,200 --> 03:03:29,360
Speaker 4: got a gazillion dollars. Jeff Bezos doesn't give a damn

3212
03:03:29,400 --> 03:03:32,640
Speaker 4: about black folk. Only one is your money. So yeah,

3213
03:03:32,800 --> 03:03:35,480
Speaker 4: you can get my book on Amazon, but get it

3214
03:03:35,560 --> 03:03:38,360
Speaker 4: from a black bookstore first. And yeah you might pay

3215
03:03:38,760 --> 03:03:41,760
Speaker 4: a few pennies more, but give those few pennies to

3216
03:03:41,879 --> 03:03:45,640
Speaker 4: a black person who's gonna invest in you. This is

3217
03:03:45,680 --> 03:03:48,879
Speaker 4: our plaring car fo. Either we're gonna support each other

3218
03:03:49,440 --> 03:03:52,160
Speaker 4: and get each other's back, or we're gonna allow our

3219
03:03:52,320 --> 03:03:54,400
Speaker 4: persons to run us in the ground. And if they

3220
03:03:54,480 --> 03:03:57,520
Speaker 4: run us in the ground, it's our fault because we

3221
03:03:57,720 --> 03:04:00,640
Speaker 4: did not do well. We've always said the compare to do.

3222
03:04:00,959 --> 03:04:04,000
Speaker 4: It's a shame. It is the same at this point

3223
03:04:04,000 --> 03:04:06,040
Speaker 4: in time and history that we got to beg and

3224
03:04:06,120 --> 03:04:08,800
Speaker 4: plead with black folks to spend their money with black businesses.

3225
03:04:09,080 --> 03:04:13,400
Speaker 4: That's commonplace. Everybody else does it. So let's be serious.

3226
03:04:13,800 --> 03:04:17,959
Speaker 4: Let's start blaming other people. Let's start lifting ourselves up

3227
03:04:18,240 --> 03:04:22,760
Speaker 4: by beginning with our individual selves first. Don't point the

3228
03:04:22,840 --> 03:04:25,560
Speaker 4: finger at somebody else. Look at what you're doing, and

3229
03:04:25,760 --> 03:04:28,720
Speaker 4: do you better in twenty twenty six. Be a better father,

3230
03:04:29,000 --> 03:04:32,040
Speaker 4: be a better husband, be a better wife, be a

3231
03:04:32,120 --> 03:04:34,840
Speaker 4: better son, be a better daughter. Right, be a better

3232
03:04:34,959 --> 03:04:39,280
Speaker 4: community person. That's our saving grace. That's how we have

3233
03:04:39,680 --> 03:04:44,440
Speaker 4: always been able to succeed as the people, because we

3234
03:04:44,720 --> 03:04:50,000
Speaker 4: have always been able to come together like nobody else

3235
03:04:50,400 --> 03:04:54,280
Speaker 4: and do the impossible with nothing. That's our forte folk.

3236
03:04:54,520 --> 03:04:57,360
Speaker 4: And so whatever concept of God you may pray to,

3237
03:04:57,879 --> 03:05:00,800
Speaker 4: all right, can you stick to that? And you ask

3238
03:05:00,879 --> 03:05:03,560
Speaker 4: your concept of God to make you the best person,

3239
03:05:03,800 --> 03:05:06,720
Speaker 4: to make you a smarter person, a more intelligent person,

3240
03:05:07,080 --> 03:05:11,480
Speaker 4: a healthier person, a more financially stable person, so that

3241
03:05:11,640 --> 03:05:15,680
Speaker 4: you can give back to your community and build strong households.

3242
03:05:15,840 --> 03:05:18,440
Speaker 4: That's what all of this is for, right, And if

3243
03:05:18,480 --> 03:05:23,280
Speaker 4: you can't do that, then shame on you. There's no

3244
03:05:23,440 --> 03:05:28,160
Speaker 4: reason why we cannot do better. And as our opponents

3245
03:05:28,520 --> 03:05:32,840
Speaker 4: are rallying up to bury us, they can only bury us.

3246
03:05:33,120 --> 03:05:36,640
Speaker 4: If we roll over and play dead, now's the time

3247
03:05:36,720 --> 03:05:39,360
Speaker 4: to bring the best you possible. Thank you, man, I

3248
03:05:39,360 --> 03:05:41,320
Speaker 4: don't know where we are retired. Thank you.

3249
03:05:43,040 --> 03:05:44,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. But okay, I gotta ask you this because you

3250
03:05:44,879 --> 03:05:46,520
Speaker 1: mentioned that that this is going to be your last

3251
03:05:46,560 --> 03:05:49,320
Speaker 1: trip next year and and sort of wrapping up, is

3252
03:05:49,360 --> 03:05:50,720
Speaker 1: it gonna be the last rople or are you going

3253
03:05:50,800 --> 03:05:52,000
Speaker 1: to pass it on this to your daughter?

3254
03:05:53,680 --> 03:05:56,879
Speaker 4: For Atlanta, Atlantis is my daughter. Atlantis has been an

3255
03:05:56,879 --> 03:06:02,000
Speaker 4: egypt some twenty times, so she position to continue her

3256
03:06:02,120 --> 03:06:05,680
Speaker 4: father's legacy. So I'm not putting pressure on her. If

3257
03:06:05,720 --> 03:06:08,640
Speaker 4: she wants to continue to do the study tours, she

3258
03:06:08,800 --> 03:06:11,960
Speaker 4: will now granted she has all the knowledge. She's a

3259
03:06:12,000 --> 03:06:14,160
Speaker 4: little intimidated, you know, she's got to walk in the

3260
03:06:14,200 --> 03:06:17,120
Speaker 4: footsteps of Tony Browner. But as I told her, she's prepared.

3261
03:06:17,280 --> 03:06:19,920
Speaker 4: She's got this. She knows more about history than the

3262
03:06:20,240 --> 03:06:23,400
Speaker 4: our Egypian history than the average Egyptian. So if she

3263
03:06:23,600 --> 03:06:26,800
Speaker 4: wants to do it, there's a place for her to

3264
03:06:26,920 --> 03:06:28,760
Speaker 4: do this. I'm going to be going to other parts

3265
03:06:28,840 --> 03:06:30,640
Speaker 4: of Africa. I want to be going to other parts

3266
03:06:30,680 --> 03:06:33,040
Speaker 4: of the world, so I'm not just folding up my

3267
03:06:33,160 --> 03:06:36,080
Speaker 4: tent and going home. I got stuff I want to do, right,

3268
03:06:36,440 --> 03:06:38,320
Speaker 4: I got a life I want to continue to live.

3269
03:06:38,600 --> 03:06:41,720
Speaker 4: I got other books that I want to write. And

3270
03:06:42,240 --> 03:06:45,440
Speaker 4: so if all goals is planned is if all goals

3271
03:06:45,560 --> 03:06:49,360
Speaker 4: is planned, I should have three new publications out throughout

3272
03:06:49,480 --> 03:06:52,560
Speaker 4: the next year of twenty twenty six. They're in the pipeline.

3273
03:06:52,879 --> 03:06:55,640
Speaker 4: I'm going to be giving myself time to write films

3274
03:06:56,200 --> 03:06:59,800
Speaker 4: and to publish them and market them so that I

3275
03:07:00,120 --> 03:07:03,720
Speaker 4: will leave a living legacy for my family, for my daughter,

3276
03:07:03,800 --> 03:07:07,120
Speaker 4: for my grandson, and for everyone else who sees the

3277
03:07:07,320 --> 03:07:11,200
Speaker 4: benefit of what I have to offer. Right, So this

3278
03:07:11,520 --> 03:07:16,000
Speaker 4: is for us, and the only way it can benefit

3279
03:07:16,120 --> 03:07:18,960
Speaker 4: you is if you see the value in it and

3280
03:07:19,040 --> 03:07:21,800
Speaker 4: are willing to move forward and use this knowledge to

3281
03:07:21,920 --> 03:07:25,560
Speaker 4: help yourself. First, help your family, then help your community.

3282
03:07:26,400 --> 03:07:29,200
Speaker 1: All right, I'm brother tying for you. Leave tell us

3283
03:07:29,240 --> 03:07:32,000
Speaker 1: how we can get more informations. The website again.

3284
03:07:32,680 --> 03:07:37,119
Speaker 4: The website is ikg danceinfo dot com. I'll have copies

3285
03:07:37,160 --> 03:07:38,960
Speaker 4: of the book by next week. It will be in

3286
03:07:39,080 --> 03:07:43,480
Speaker 4: bookstores by January eleventh. You'll be able to get your copies,

3287
03:07:43,840 --> 03:07:48,400
Speaker 4: and hopefully it will spur discussions in households and communities

3288
03:07:48,920 --> 03:07:52,600
Speaker 4: and that's how we continue to advance by continuing discussions

3289
03:07:52,640 --> 03:07:55,520
Speaker 4: and building on the knowledge. Carl, thank you as always,

3290
03:07:55,800 --> 03:07:57,840
Speaker 4: I appreciate you to love your delight my brother.

3291
03:07:58,600 --> 03:08:00,000
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, and thank you for all the

3292
03:08:00,160 --> 03:08:02,480
Speaker 1: work that you've done, Brother Tony. People don't tell you this,

3293
03:08:02,640 --> 03:08:04,680
Speaker 1: but they tell me all the time to thank you,

3294
03:08:05,080 --> 03:08:07,160
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna do it publicly. This is because you've

3295
03:08:07,200 --> 03:08:10,000
Speaker 1: done You've changed so many lives. People have read your book.

3296
03:08:10,000 --> 03:08:11,680
Speaker 1: We had a couple of guys this morning. I think

3297
03:08:11,720 --> 03:08:14,000
Speaker 1: it was a brother, Dara al Muhammad, so this changed

3298
03:08:14,040 --> 03:08:16,240
Speaker 1: his life when he was in the joint reading your book.

3299
03:08:16,320 --> 03:08:18,120
Speaker 1: So maybe you don't get it all the time, but

3300
03:08:18,160 --> 03:08:20,320
Speaker 1: I just want you to know you're really appreciate it.

3301
03:08:21,360 --> 03:08:24,080
Speaker 4: Well, thank you, but I do appreciate it. And here's

3302
03:08:24,080 --> 03:08:26,240
Speaker 4: to life. Here's to a bet at twenty twenty six.

3303
03:08:27,600 --> 03:08:30,640
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, brother Tony. All Right, family, that's

3304
03:08:30,720 --> 03:08:34,279
Speaker 1: it for the day. Class is dismissed. Stay strong, stay positive,

3305
03:08:34,360 --> 03:08:37,320
Speaker 1: please please stay healthy. We'll see you tomorrow morning, six

3306
03:08:37,360 --> 03:08:41,280
Speaker 1: o'clock right here in Baltimore on ten ten WLB and

3307
03:08:41,320 --> 03:08:44,879
Speaker 1: also in the DMV on fourteen fifty WOL