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Speaker 1: the Pacer game and sent me a video. And the

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Speaker 1: video that you sent Eddie was showing me exactly what

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Speaker 1: Okay, excellent point, very good meteorological fact. On your behalf

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Speaker 3: Even though I'm sleep deprived, I can put words together

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean I should be sleep deprived too. We

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Speaker 3: Especially after the news yesterday of releasing you know, Stefan Diggs.

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Speaker 2: And they've got cap space.

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Speaker 1: The one thing about Alec Pierce, and we can get

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Speaker 1: of us fail. Anything that you try to do in

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Speaker 1: life oftentimes is built upon learning from your failures. And

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Speaker 1: lou Holtz had failure, and so instead of sulking about that,

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Speaker 1: instead of pointing fingers, he was able to realize and

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Speaker 1: recognize that it didn't work out. And thus he left,

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Speaker 1: and he goes to Arkansas, and that Arkansas has great success,

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Speaker 1: and then puts, you know, while he was at Arkansas,

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Speaker 1: starts putting in his mind the dream and the vision

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Speaker 1: of where he ultimately wants to be. He goes to Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: There was indiscretion in Arkansas. At the end. He goes

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Speaker 1: to Minnesota, has success in Minnesota, and then he puts

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Speaker 1: in the Notre Dame clause that essentially allows him the

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Speaker 1: out if Notre Dame ever becomes a possibility. And when

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Speaker 1: Lou Holtz finally got the opportunity at Notre Dame, he

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Speaker 1: took advantage of it and had as great a run

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Speaker 1: of success as anybody has had there not named Newt Rockney,

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Speaker 1: and he stopped. I believe, if I'm not mistaken, a

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Speaker 1: win shy or very close to surpassing Newt Rockney as

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Speaker 1: the all time winning as coach I'd have to look

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Speaker 1: at the exact numbers, but a national championship still the

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Speaker 1: last in the history of the Irish and did so

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Speaker 1: by keeping Notre Dame in total where it should be,

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Speaker 1: at the very top of relevance, of importance, and of victories.

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Speaker 1: A phenomenal football coach, but a phenomenal football coach who

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Speaker 1: had turned things around and ascended to the very elite

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Speaker 1: level top of college football, which is almost the equivalent

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Speaker 1: when you're talking about Notre Dame of that of the

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Speaker 1: NFL and doing it on the heels of failing with

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Speaker 1: the New York Jets, and able to look players in

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Speaker 1: the eye and say you're going to have failure, but

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Speaker 1: if you follow my lead, the proof is in the

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Speaker 1: putting that failure can turn into championships. And that to me,

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Speaker 1: along with his conviction and standing by the principles and

468
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Speaker 1: moralities of the Catholic faith and Notre Dame, are the

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Speaker 1: things that define who Louholtz was as a coach, and

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Speaker 1: the fact that he left such an endearing and personal

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Speaker 1: impact on his players that it is difficult for his

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Speaker 1: players to discuss it upon his passing in the immediacy

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Speaker 1: of it, which I understand and respect. But Jeff Burris

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Speaker 1: did play for him, did become an All American for

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Speaker 1: him before becoming a cult. Will join us in the

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Speaker 1: two o'clock hour Big show lined up today. There's a

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Speaker 1: new commissioner for the Horizon League. She actually spent time

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Speaker 1: at Notre Dame. She'll join us at two o'clock. Davey

479
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: Hamilton to preview IndyCar and Phoenix coming up at one

480
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Speaker 1: point thirty. But on the other side, I was asked

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Speaker 1: a question last night by somebody that just walked up

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Speaker 1: and asked me something, And I said, ain't that the

483
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Speaker 1: burning question hovering over Indianapolis right now? We'll get to

484
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Speaker 1: it next. You know, this is fitting you'd play this, Eddie,

485
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Speaker 1: because I've never been called Maurice. I've never been called

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Speaker 1: a space cowboy. But just so you know, Gangster Love

487
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: been known that for years. This song fabulous when it

488
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: was covered by the Ghetto Boys. By the way, just

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Speaker 1: so you know, which of those would you most likely be?

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Speaker 1: The Space Cowboy, the Gangster Love Maurice? Which one are

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Speaker 1: you are? You're a picker, You're a gritter? What are you?

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Speaker 3: I think I got to be the Space Cowboy, right Okay,

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Speaker 3: fair enough, what about the joker?

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Speaker 2: No, that's only reserved for one person.

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Speaker 4: Fair enough.

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Speaker 1: Now, I will tell you this. Could the joke be

497
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Speaker 1: on the Colts? Or are we cool here with this?

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Speaker 1: Because last night here's the question that was asked of me.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, Brian Nuburt. In about ten minutes,

500
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Speaker 1: we're going to try to decipher what's going on with Purdue.

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Speaker 1: But last night I was at the gym. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this or not, Eddie,

503
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Speaker 1: but you know this kind of zeke, it does require

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Speaker 1: some work, right, Okay, Well I'm serious. I mean I

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00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: will say that I'm not as sore afterwards, thank you

506
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Speaker 1: Game Day Men's Health. But nonetheless, yesterday I was at

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Speaker 1: the gym and a guy comes up to me and

508
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Speaker 1: just you know, you do the the subliminal thing of

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Speaker 1: like take out your headset so I can say something

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Speaker 1: to you. And I go okay, and I take up

511
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: my headsets and he says, they're gonna screw this whole

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Speaker 1: thing up, aren't they. They're gonna screw this whole thing

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Speaker 1: up and end up with neither one of them. And

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Speaker 1: I knew instantly what he was talking about. I knew

515
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Speaker 1: instantly what he was talking about. I didn't think, to myself, Okay,

516
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Speaker 1: he's talking about the Pacers, and the Pacers are gonna

517
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Speaker 1: screw this up and get hot and win games and

518
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Speaker 1: fall out of the top four in terms of draft picks.

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Speaker 1: That's not what he meant. He wasn't talking about the

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Speaker 1: fact of wouldn't it be fitting and wouldn't it be

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Speaker 1: typical if the Pacers end up with a top two

522
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Speaker 1: pick and aj debon of BYU, who I absolutely think

523
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: would be spectacular. Here follows through on what he dropped

524
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Speaker 1: yesterday as a subtle hint, meaning that he's going to

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Speaker 1: stay in college and we're going to get into that

526
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Speaker 1: over the course of today, because that sounds absurd, but

527
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Speaker 1: yet it's not when you consider nil. What he meant,

528
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Speaker 1: of course, was are the Colts going to sit there

529
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Speaker 1: and as I always say, they're going to be wait

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Speaker 1: to be reactive instead of being proactive, and they're gonna

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Speaker 1: let New England or Chicago or Arizona or whoever comes

532
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Speaker 1: sweeping in and blow away Alec Pierce with an unbelievable offer,

533
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Speaker 1: and they're going to lose Alec Pierce. And if that

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Speaker 1: happens then does Daniel Jones say, you know what, instead

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Speaker 1: of just being designed to the fact that I'll go

536
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: ahead and sign with the Indianapolis and give whatever offer

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Speaker 1: they get, does Daniel Jones say, I'm going to tell

538
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: my agent to aggressively shot me and try to find

539
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: a deal somewhere the Indianapolis will not match. I do

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Speaker 1: think that Daniel Jones likes playing here. I think that

541
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Speaker 1: Alec Pierce likes playing here. But it's in the best

542
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Speaker 1: financial interest of both to go ahead at this point

543
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Speaker 1: and see what's out there. And theoretically the Colts missed

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Speaker 1: their window to lock that down before. I understand if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna lose. What if it got to the point

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Speaker 1: where it's like, look, we've got to go all in

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Speaker 1: on one of these two, and it may come at

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Speaker 1: the cost of the other. I get it. And it's

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Speaker 1: also a little bit of chicken and egg because Alec

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Speaker 1: Pierce it was apparently pretty abundantly clear that hey, if

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones goes a long way and whether or not

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Speaker 1: I want to be here, and so because of that,

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00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: you know, you're sitting there and you're saying, okay, So

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Speaker 1: that means that if we get Daniel Jones locked in.

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Speaker 1: Pierce is proud of it, probably pretty much in you in,

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Speaker 1: You're good, all right, let's go. And I think they

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Speaker 1: The one thing where I think the key domino, the

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Speaker 1: key block, and the Janga pyramid here is this. I

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Speaker 1: think the combination of the early success with the injury

560
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Speaker 1: led the Colts to believe that retaining and getting Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones locked in was going to be a quicker and

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Speaker 1: more immediate process than it truly was. And I think

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Speaker 1: part of that is because, as I've mentioned that Seattle

564
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: opened the door for the blueprint on the fact that

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Speaker 1: a Daniel Jones can win elsewhere, and other teams, even

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Speaker 1: though there is that Achilles look at it and say

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Speaker 1: that's a guy that we can win with. And Daniel

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00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: Jones realized that other teams may feel that way, so

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Speaker 1: it was in his best interest to see other people.

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Speaker 1: And so it just became a slippery slope where you

571
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Speaker 1: kind of didn't know which way to turn. You didn't

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Speaker 1: know which tributary in the river you were supposed to damn,

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Speaker 1: because it might spring and start flowing in a different direction.

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Speaker 1: Last night Purdue struggled. They did get a win in Evanston,

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Speaker 1: but something just seems off. Few would be better to

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Speaker 1: help us determine what that might be than Brian Nubert,

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Speaker 1: and that's why we asked him to join us. Next,

578
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Speaker 1: pretty popular TikTok video that goes around of different people

579
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Speaker 1: trying to sing this song, we should get Brian Nubert.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the that would make five non blondes

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Speaker 1: to join in with his thought on singing it, because

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Speaker 1: that's the big question about Purdue of what's going on?

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Speaker 1: And I guess Brian Nubert who joins us now By

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Speaker 1: the way, on the Java House Colebrew Coffee Guest Line,

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Speaker 1: a regular and welcome the guest to the program from

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Speaker 1: Golden Black Brian. Reality is it's a sign of how

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00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: good a team is when they win games and you

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00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: still wonder what it is that's going wrong with them.

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Speaker 1: But struggled last night in Evanston against Northwestern. Sometimes teams

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Speaker 1: get plucky and you say, hey, you know what, kudos

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00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: to the opponent. Or was this another example of Purdue

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00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: for some reason just not clicking on all cylinders?

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Speaker 4: How did I go from starship to four non blonde?

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Speaker 5: Jake?

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00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 4: I thought we had a thing.

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Speaker 1: You know what, you're right. You're actually right. That's that's

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Speaker 1: on Eddie, though Eddie came up with what's going on,

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Speaker 1: so you got to blame Eddie on that one.

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Speaker 4: Come on, Eddie getting the game. So yeah, Purdue. I'm

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Speaker 4: a big believer that there's no such thing as a

601
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Speaker 4: bad road win in the Big Ten. But I think

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Speaker 4: that you know, Perdue turned the ball over too much

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Speaker 4: in the first half. I think Northwestern made some really

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Speaker 4: tough shots. I think Nick Martinelli was a tough matchup

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Speaker 4: for Purdue, as he is for a lot of people.

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Speaker 4: And I think that you know, Perdue didn't play its

607
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 4: best game, turned the ball over too much, and for

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Speaker 4: them to give up that bizarre three pointer with a

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Speaker 4: minute to go that put Northwestern back ahead and immediately

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Speaker 4: respond to it, I thought made this game more of

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Speaker 4: a positive than the alternative. I think where Purdue was

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Speaker 4: in terms of having lost six of its last eleven

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Speaker 4: or whatever the tally actually was, I think they just

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00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 4: needed anyway they could get it, and you know, to

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Speaker 4: go on the road and not play their best game

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Speaker 4: and beat somebody else on their senior day after they'd

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Speaker 4: won three games in a row. Northwestern's not a great team. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: but they'd won three games in a row at least,

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Speaker 4: including that pretty impressive win at IU where they rallied

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Speaker 4: in the last couple of minutes to take that one.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was more of a positive for Purdue

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Speaker 4: than it was a sign of ongoing troubles. But Purdue

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Speaker 4: needed at that.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny, Brian, because it was one of those

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Speaker 1: games where unfortunately at this point, I don't know that

626
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: you know, it was more about avoiding a really bad loss,

627
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: right than it was getting that win, even though to

628
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Speaker 1: your point, you know, when you got to find ways,

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Speaker 1: good teams find ways, And I thought last night CJ.

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Speaker 1: Cox was brilliant for them and on numerous possessions, especially

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Speaker 1: late in possessions, hit big shots for them, and that's

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Speaker 1: not the first time that he has done that. Is

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Speaker 1: this a guy finding more confidence or is this a

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Speaker 1: team that is realizing the value they have in Cox

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Speaker 1: in doing more to facilitate getting him those looks?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think pretty I think pretty read the room

637
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Speaker 4: pretty well. They were Northwestern was selling out to get

638
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Speaker 4: a guy in the lane to stop Trey Koff Moran

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Speaker 4: and taking roll, and they were leaving CJ. Cox in

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Speaker 4: the corner. That's why he was standing out the whole

641
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 4: game doing jumping jacks in the corner. And to CJ.

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Speaker 4: Cox's credit, he made the shots. That was the calculation

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Speaker 4: Northwestern made that they would rather take their chance. This

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Speaker 4: was CJ. Cox making threes from the corner versus Trey

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Speaker 4: coffin ran getting in that short roll stuff and posting

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Speaker 4: up and driving from the high posts and things like that.

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Speaker 4: And the CJ. Cox's credit, he burned it and to

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Speaker 4: produce credit, they made the simple place to get the

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Speaker 4: ball where it needed to be. And and I can't

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Speaker 4: say enough about what CJ. Cox did. This is a

651
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Speaker 4: guy who in high school had the ball in his

652
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Speaker 4: hands all the time, I think, and has really really

653
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Speaker 4: become a good catch and shoot guy in those corners

654
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Speaker 4: and the corner three is really important to what Purdue

655
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Speaker 4: does defensively against certain types of help. And yes, CJ.

656
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Speaker 4: Cox has all the confidence in the world right now.

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Speaker 1: And he should, you know the Brian last night and

658
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Speaker 1: watching the game on the Big ten network. One of

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Speaker 1: the things I noticed, and you see this a lot,

660
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Speaker 1: I mean, one of the great things about Chicago is

661
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Speaker 1: it is the melting pot of Big ten fan base.

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Speaker 1: Is just based on the number of alum that live.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it's you know, within two hour drive of Purdue,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of Purdue fans. It sounded like

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Speaker 1: in Evanstone, which made me think that is it possible?

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Speaker 1: This song is fitting when it comes to Purdue in

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Speaker 1: Chicago right here. They built this city right see? Is

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Speaker 1: that better? Brian?

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Speaker 4: There you go, this is I feel home now. I'm

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Speaker 4: officially a guest on your show.

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Speaker 1: That's right. We bring the starship in because this song.

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Speaker 1: Nothing bangs like this song. We know that much. If

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Speaker 1: you look at the NCAA tournament, Brian, and let's just

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Speaker 1: assume for the sake of discussion that Purdue I think

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Speaker 1: they go no lower than a four seed. They probably

676
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Speaker 1: are in that three line right now. Maybe with a

677
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Speaker 1: Big ten tournament championship they move in back into a

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Speaker 1: two seed somewhere in there. But the team that they

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Speaker 1: would face in the first or second round of the

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Speaker 1: NCAA tournament that would be their kryptonite is the team

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Speaker 1: that does what.

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Speaker 4: Stretched bigs can be problematic. So if it's somebody who's

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Speaker 4: got a big guy who can drag on the perimeter

684
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Speaker 4: and drive against size, shoot threes, things like that. A

685
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Speaker 4: rank mass type of guy from Nebraska. That's one of

686
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Speaker 4: Purdue's difficult matchups. Elite quickness is probably something that you

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Speaker 4: know Purdue has to would have to be really good

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Speaker 4: defensively to overcome. But I think it's more about Purdue,

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Speaker 4: to be honest with you, than it really is matchups.

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Speaker 4: I think when Purdue is, you know, on the same

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Speaker 4: page defensively, which I still don't really understand why that

692
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Speaker 4: hasn't been a consistent reality for Purdue this season, when

693
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Speaker 4: they're on the same page defensively, when they're detail oriented,

694
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Speaker 4: when they're playing with energy, things like that, I think

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Speaker 4: they're pretty good and I think they can beat anybody.

696
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Speaker 4: Maybe not anybody right now, but I think they could

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Speaker 4: beat a lot of the teams they've lost to this year.

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Speaker 4: So I think it's more about Purdue than anybody. Obviously,

699
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Speaker 4: when you get the ANSABA tournament, matchups really matter. When

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Speaker 4: you don't have the inherent advantage of being a one

701
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Speaker 4: seed or a two seed, matchups matter even more. But

702
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Speaker 4: I think that really dominant rebound teams rebounding teams too,

703
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Speaker 4: can give them problems against certain lineups. Ford Who's gonna

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Speaker 4: roll out there I think that a lot depends on

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Speaker 4: Oscar Cluff, you know, as much as we sit here

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Speaker 4: and talk about Braden Smith and traycoff Ran and Fletcher Lawyer.

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Speaker 4: For good reason, I think Purdue is a much better

708
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Speaker 4: team when Oscar Cluff is fresh and energized playing center.

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Speaker 4: There's been this theme around him that he's not been

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Speaker 4: able to play really more than twenty or so minutes

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Speaker 4: a game, and they got thirty out of him yesterday,

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Speaker 4: and I thought he was pretty good defensively. He rebounded

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Speaker 4: like he did earlier in the season at some points

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Speaker 4: around the rim and things like that. So what version

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Speaker 4: of oscar Cluff perdue gets an answablely tournament's going to

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Speaker 4: have a pretty important influence in how forty fares as well.

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Speaker 1: I think are there defensive looks that Braden Smith has

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Speaker 1: not seen or struggles with? Are teams guarding him differently?

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's anything anyone can do that Braiden

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Speaker 4: Smith hasn't seen at this point in his career. What

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Speaker 4: you saw yesterday was Northwestern just trapping the ball out

722
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Speaker 4: his hands for the most part, hedging him high, locking

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Speaker 4: onto him, keeping two guys on him, forcing the ball

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Speaker 4: out of his hands, and to his credit, you know,

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Speaker 4: this is a guy chasing an NCAA all the time

726
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Speaker 4: assist record. To his credit, he made simple plays. I

727
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Speaker 4: know he had four turnovers. I know he didn't score

728
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Speaker 4: a whole lot, but that's he did what Purdue needed

729
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Speaker 4: him to do to win and get the ball of

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Speaker 4: his hands, let his teammates play four on three and

731
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Speaker 4: that's how CJ. Hodgson's up shooting wide open three pointers

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Speaker 4: in the corner most of the day. So I think

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Speaker 4: you give Braden Smith credit last night for just doing

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Speaker 4: what Purdue needed him to do to win that game.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's not an easy thing to do

736
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Speaker 4: when you're as great a player as Braden Smith is,

737
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Speaker 4: is to kind of set your personal playmaking abilities aside

738
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Speaker 4: and let everybody else do the work. But that's what

739
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Speaker 4: Northwestern chose to make him do, and obviously it wasn't

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Speaker 4: quite good enough for them.

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Speaker 1: Brian Nubert the guest of course from Goldenblack dot com.

742
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Speaker 1: He is on the Java House Coldbrew Coffee guest line,

743
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Speaker 1: and would are you already back from Chicago? Brian? Are

744
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Speaker 1: you on the road as we speak? And if so,

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Speaker 1: I hope you're going hands free.

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Speaker 4: I am going hands free, and I am on that joyous

747
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Speaker 4: corridor on I ninety four going past Chicago State where

748
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Speaker 4: everything bottles, Everything bottlenecks right before you get to fifty five,

749
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Speaker 4: and traffic always backs up. So I'm going forty five

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Speaker 4: miles an hour.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've noticed this, Brian, but a

752
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Speaker 1: wonderful thing happens around this time of year, right at

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Speaker 1: the time I always tell people when it comes time

754
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Speaker 1: to change your clock for daylight savings, which we'll do

755
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: this weekend, that's the perfect time to check the batteries

756
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 1: in your smoke detector. Right in the Chicago Land area,

757
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: that's the time of year where they transition all the

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Speaker 1: billboards from Brian urlock or hair loss to fireworks. So

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00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: have they done that the changeover happened yet.

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Speaker 4: I haven't noticed. There's a lot of fog. I'm not

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Speaker 4: really looking at the I'm not really looking at the billboards,

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Speaker 4: I gotta say, but I'm just happy that anytime you

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Speaker 4: make a road trip this time of the year during

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Speaker 4: the Big Ten basketball season and there's no ice on

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Speaker 4: the highways, correct, it's a win. I've had good luck

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Speaker 4: so far this Big Ten season. And I guess I

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Speaker 4: got through it because this was the last Big Ten

768
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Speaker 4: road trip other than the Big Ten Tournament. So we

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Speaker 4: will hope that there's no blizzard or something next week

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Speaker 4: when I drive back up to Chicago.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Brian, we appreciate it and travel safe.

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Speaker 4: All right, anytime, Jake.

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Speaker 1: All Right. Brian Nuber joining us on the program, speaking

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Speaker 1: of the Big Ten Tournament, Speaking of the NCAA tournament.

775
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Speaker 1: There is a debate and discussion that has been rampant,

776
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Speaker 1: and I just had a brain dropping that I think

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Speaker 1: is the perfect solution, and I wonder why these people

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Speaker 1: don't call me. I'll tell you about it next. And

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Speaker 1: Davey Hamilton in about thirty before we get into the

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Speaker 1: college basketball A couple of different points of interest there, Eddie,

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Speaker 1: do you happen to have the breaking news sounder? This

782
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Speaker 1: just in earlier and the results just came in at

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Speaker 1: Hinkelfield House, fresh off the press, Fresh off the press. Now,

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Speaker 1: this is the State Farm Slam dunk and three point

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Speaker 1: competition that involved influencer and media. So I guess people

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Speaker 1: in the media were not influencers. We don't influence anybody,

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Speaker 1: but there are influencers as well. But in the all

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Speaker 1: category three point shootout amongst influencers and media folk. Now,

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Speaker 1: keep in mind, the only reason that I didn't win

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Speaker 1: this is because, I mean, it's State Farm, and believe

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Speaker 1: you me, when your name is Jake, you get mentioned

792
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Speaker 1: with State Farm everywhere you go. Right, I didn't win

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Speaker 1: it because they conveniently managed to do this during the

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Speaker 1: middle of this program. But congratulations to JMV who is

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Speaker 1: the three point shootout champion.

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Speaker 6: There you go.

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Speaker 1: That's impressive.

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Speaker 2: By the way, keep in mind, it was in the

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Speaker 2: rest of the field.

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Speaker 1: What's that?

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Speaker 2: Do we know who was in the rest of the field.

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Speaker 1: Derek Schultz?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Really, I don't know.

805
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Speaker 3: I didn't know if he could get the ball out

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Speaker 3: that high.

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Speaker 1: Derek. Actually, it's not a three point contest. It's a

808
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Speaker 1: point and a half when Derek is doing it. Okay. So, this,

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Speaker 1: of course is all a precursor to Friday, April third,

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Speaker 1: at seven o'clock at Hincklefield House, where you will have

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Speaker 1: the College Slam dug at three point competition, all taking

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Speaker 1: place as part of Final Four weekend. Now with the

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Speaker 1: Final Four and the NCAA tournament and the NCAA Selection

814
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Speaker 1: committee is based right here in our fair city of Indianapolis, Indiana.

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Speaker 3: So you'll pay attention quickly here. If you could dunk

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Speaker 3: one time in your life, what kind of dunk would

817
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Speaker 3: you want to do? Would you want to dunk on

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Speaker 3: somebody or is there like a three sixty windmill type

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Speaker 3: of dunk you would want?

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Speaker 1: Well, I have accomplished. I have dunked, but it's been

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Speaker 1: many many moons ago, obviously, right.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking to you about on a regulation goal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not a kid, buddy. But if I had to

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Speaker 1: dunk with a style as opposed to just going up

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Speaker 1: and thrown it through, I would do a solo the

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Speaker 1: Jordan from the side, like the pump dunk, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, where he goes down and then it's

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Speaker 1: hard to explain. Everyone knows what I'm talking about. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's that dunk contest Jordan from the side is what

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Speaker 1: I would do. I mean, obviously, the from the free

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Speaker 1: throw line. You know, Julius Irving was the first to

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Speaker 1: do the from the free throw line in a dunk

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Speaker 1: contest dunk. But then when Jordan did it in eighty

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Speaker 1: eight at the NBA all started weekend and he did

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Speaker 1: the leg kickout. I mean that's incredible. Just the hang

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Speaker 1: time that was necessary for that was truly remarkable, especially

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Speaker 1: for that period. Now, having said all of that, Eddie,

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Speaker 1: unpopular opinion, unpopular opinion, it is time to old yell

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Speaker 1: er the dunk contest.

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Speaker 2: WHOA why would you use old yeller? That's that makes

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Speaker 2: me sad.

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00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: Now, I know, but I'm saying, like you know, it's

843
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Speaker 1: it would be said to take the slam dunk contest

844
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Speaker 1: and just go ahead and have to put it down.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we loved the dunk contest. It was great,

846
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Speaker 1: but it just I truly do think that we have

847
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Speaker 1: reached the point where there's just not a dunk that

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Speaker 1: hasn't been done before. And that's the challenge with all

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Speaker 1: of it. But here is my NCAA tournament epiphany. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: right now, there is a lot of discussion, a lot

851
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Speaker 1: of debate. To me, it's silly. I don't think there's

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Speaker 1: any debate about it whatsoever. But there is debate about

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00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: whether or not Miami of Ohio or as they say

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Speaker 1: there Miami deserves to be an at large or an

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Speaker 1: automatic I should say, well and at large, whether or

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Speaker 1: not they deserve to be an at large and the

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00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: NCAA Tournament. They are thirty and zhero they're unbeaten. Now,

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Speaker 1: granted I looked at it, and they play in the

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Speaker 1: MAC and their pre MAC schedule I looked at it Lincoln, Guyan, Eastwood, Fulton,

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Speaker 1: South Wayne, Stonybrook, Craig, and Northview. That was their pre

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Speaker 1: MAC schedule. They are three hundred and fifteenth. In three

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifteenth, I believe is their Ken Palm or

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00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: their computer ranking or whatever else when you factor in

864
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: strength of schedule. But even with that, they're in a

865
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: major conference. It's a non Power five, I get it.

866
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: But it is a conference that the NCAA Tournament has

867
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: deemed worthy of automatic admission of the conference tournament champion.

868
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: If the conference is strong enough that they are one

869
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: that is included of having their tournament champion in your tournament,

870
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: then I believe it merits to be lumped into this category. Now, Eddie,

871
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a Jake Query presentation and

872
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: then I want you to grade me A to F

873
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: on how sound or logical you believe my conclusion to be.

874
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: Are you ready? I'm ready. As it stands right now,

875
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: in the NCAA Tournament, you have thirty two. I believe

876
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: it is. Of the teams, it's either thirty two that

877
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: are automatic and thirty six that are at large or

878
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: vice versa. I can't remember. But there is only one way, Eddie,

879
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm putting you on the trivia chair here. There is

880
00:50:55,719 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: only one way to receive an automatic bid for the tournament,

881
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: and that way is.

882
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 2: That is winning your conference tournament.

883
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 1: Correct. If you win your conference tournament, you are automatically

884
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: in the NCAA Tournament.

885
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 3: For those teams and conferences that do have conference tournaments, yeah, correct.

886
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: Now here is for all of this debate about Miami,

887
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: and to me, it's a no brainer. They absolutely deserve

888
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: to be in. They deserve to be in for the

889
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: mere fact that I always say I always favor the

890
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: mid major because the NCAA Tournament and what makes it great.

891
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 1: And yes, in the end, you want chalk in terms

892
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: of your final four, because that's what sells. The brands sell,

893
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: the blue bloods sell. The reality, without question is the

894
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: fact that when you get to the final four, a

895
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: final four with Duke Kansas, Kentucky and Michigan is going

896
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: to do better ratings than a final four with Miami

897
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: of Ohio, Mississippi State. I'll throw Syracuse in for the

898
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: sake of giving a blue blood or somewhat of a

899
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: you know, a light blue blood in there. You know

900
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 1: in North Carolina State, the bigger brands and the bigger names,

901
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: historically speaking, do draw more numbers late in the tournament.

902
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: But what draws numbers early in the tournament the first

903
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: two days of the NCAA tournament where it looks like

904
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: this outside and it's four o'clock in the afternoon, and

905
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: you leave work an hour early because you can't wait

906
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: to go and watch all the games, and you know,

907
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: eat a Chicago's pizza and have yourself a cold beer,

908
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: whatever it might be, get together with your buddies, get

909
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: together with the kids. You got a tournament, draw whatever.

910
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: What's the first thing people say? All right, who are

911
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: the upsets? Who is the shaker? Who is Saint Peter's right?

912
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: What makes the NCAA tournament what it is and what

913
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: makes it so special is the introduction of schools that

914
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: other you didn't necessarily pay a lot of attention to.

915
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: People still talk about Wally Zerbiaks run with Miami, or

916
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 1: schools that you've only heard of because of the NCAA

917
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: Tournament comp and State Towson State. You know George Mauth Alabama,

918
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: George Mason. There's a million of them right. That's the

919
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: beauty of the tournament. But here is the easy solution.

920
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: You change your criteria to this. There are two ways

921
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: now in Jake Querry's world, and then I want you

922
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: to grade this proposal, Eddie.

923
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 2: Okay.

924
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: There are two ways to get an autobid to the

925
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 1: NCAA Tournament laid on me. Win your conference tournament, okay,

926
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: or finish your regular season unbeaten. If you finish your

927
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 1: regular season unbeaten and you are a team that plays

928
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: in a conference that has a conference tournament and you

929
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: are undefeated, that means that you are playing and you

930
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: have gone unblemished within your conference. Last night, Produce struggled

931
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: at Northwestern. Why because Northwestern's in the same conference. They

932
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: know Produce tendencies, they know the tape, they've seen them,

933
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: they play them. Their senior group last night became the

934
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: first to know were they ran the risk of going

935
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: over in their career in Welsh Ryan Arena. Because it's

936
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: tough to play in your conference, it's tough to play familiarity,

937
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 1: it's tough to win games year in and year out,

938
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: no matter how down you might be, against programs that

939
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: know exactly who and what you are. And so even

940
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: if you didn't play a stout pre conference schedule, you

941
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 1: still just won eighteen to twenty straight games over teams

942
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: that know everything about what you want to do. And

943
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: that is tough. And once you get into the twenties,

944
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: the mental aspect of the pressure of knowing that all

945
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: of the national talk shows are trying to credit your

946
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: accomplishment and talk down about you and find demerit and

947
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: holes within what it is that you've been able to

948
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: compile on your resume. You factor in all of those

949
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: things and you still answer the bell every single time.

950
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: That merits a reward, and it is very rare. It's

951
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: not like you're you're you're creating a clause within the

952
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: criteria that is every single year you're having that, you're

953
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: you're adding three and four different teams and whatever else.

954
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: How many teams are I mean literally very typically it's

955
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: a program that's within a conference that they're a number

956
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: one seat anyway, So it's not even a discussion, but

957
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: of mid majors to go undefeated, what do you have

958
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: you got Wichita State a couple of years ago.

959
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: I've got the numbers.

960
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 3: I don't have the exact number of teams that have

961
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 3: been undefeated in the regular season that lost their conference

962
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 3: championship game, but there have only been twenty teams since

963
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 3: they've been able to keep try this that have entered

964
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 3: the NCAA Tournament undefeated, and it's only happened three times

965
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 3: since two thousand.

966
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: And the three times since two thousand, I'm just going

967
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: to go off the top of my head here. Illinois

968
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: was Illinois one. No, Illinois had a lost late. That's right,

969
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 1: they lost to Ohio State late.

970
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 2: Actually only three times since nineteen ninety two.

971
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 3: Kentucky correct, Gonzaga correct, And you just said this other team,

972
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 3: Wichita State. Yes, those are the three teams that I've

973
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 3: gone into the tournament undefeated. So it's not like since

974
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 3: Jerry Canyon's team in nineteen ninety nineteen ninety one with.

975
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: Unk Marry yeah, and they got beat by That was

976
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: the famous alleged point shaving game against Duke when Larry

977
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: Johnson had a wide open shot with thirty seconds to

978
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: go and instead dished out to Anderson Hunt, who threw

979
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: up a thirty five footer, and believe you me, I

980
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: was thrilled because I was a senior in high school.

981
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: That final four was Duke Vegas, Kansas, and North Carolina,

982
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: and it became a Duke Kansas final and I was

983
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: going to Kansas. So I was excited about that, but

984
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: I was more excited the Indiana's undefeated season would still

985
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: be the last. And now twenty five years after that,

986
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: that was halfway to where we are now, and it's

987
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: been fifty years. So my presentation or my idea there, Eddie,

988
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: you great at what a to f.

989
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 3: I give it a B because I still because I

990
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 3: think you could create issues for power conference teams.

991
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 2: And I say that in.

992
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 3: This regard because if you're a nine, P four or

993
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 3: P five school and you're in the MAC, you're in

994
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 3: the A Sun, you're in the American Conference, whatever, why

995
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,439
Speaker 3: would you then in this scenario, if you feel like, hey,

996
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 3: we're a front runner in the.

997
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: Conference, why would you Why would go and play Syracuse?

998
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 3: Why would I risk to go play Syracuse? Why would

999
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,479
Speaker 3: I risk to go play Connecticut in a non conference game?

1000
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 3: To kind of hey, let's play this at your answer,

1001
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 3: I have your heare us for the turn. I have

1002
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 3: your answer.

1003
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: When I told you that Jay ANDV won the three

1004
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: point shootout at Hinklefield House earlier in the hour, you

1005
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: played a you played a sounder. You have that sound.

1006
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 2: Effect, Yeah, the breaking news sounder.

1007
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: No no, no, no. Once I gave you the answer,

1008
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: oh you played the there's your answer. If your merit

1009
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: and you think there's the possibility you're going to go undefeated,

1010
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: why in the world are you going and playing at

1011
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: North Carolina in November? There's your answer. Because those schools

1012
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: pay you the money. Why did Alabama A and M

1013
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: go and become you know, absolutely led to the shed

1014
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: against Indiana to open up the Darren Devreese era because

1015
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: they got enough money to continue to fund their travel

1016
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: for the rest of the year in their season. I

1017
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: get it. I get what you're saying, and it's a

1018
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: fair point. Now, other thing about college basketball is this

1019
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: when it comes to money, and it does impact the Pacers.

1020
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: And yes, we're going to talk Lou Holtz coming up

1021
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: a little over an hour from now. Jeff is going

1022
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: to join the program. We're going to talk to Davey

1023
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: Hamilton out in Phoenix here in about fifteen minutes and

1024
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: We've talked plenty of about the Alec Pierce situation, which

1025
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: we're monitoring as well, and Eddie has a great question

1026
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: about that. But last night the story comes out the

1027
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: Pacers are obviously in play for a top four draft pick.

1028
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: We had Ryan Carr on yesterday who's now the executive

1029
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: director of Indiana Basketball and was formerly the director of

1030
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: player personnel for the Pacers, and right there in the

1031
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: mix with their scouting and everything else, and Ryan said

1032
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: flat out, this is a draft that has and he said,

1033
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: seven potentially even eight players in the front of it

1034
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: that are guys that you only get every so often,

1035
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: you know, once every five year, guys, generational guys. Whatever

1036
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: it may be. It is my belief. That doesn't mean

1037
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: it's fact. But when factoring in what the Pacers could use,

1038
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: I believe the best option is Aj Debonza of am

1039
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: I saying his last name correctly because I see it

1040
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: ten thousand different ways. Yeah, Aj Debonsa, Yeah, Aj Debonsa

1041
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: of BYU, who is a shooting wing. He's listed at six'.

1042
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: Nine he can absolutely put the ball on the. Floor

1043
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: he can step back and hit. Threes he's, smooth he

1044
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: has great. Elevation i'm using buzzwords here in terms of

1045
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: all of the things about, Him But i've watched him

1046
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: a fair, amount and to be, Fair i've watched him

1047
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: more THAN i have Watched Cam boozer Of, duke Or

1048
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: Darren peterson Of, kansas Or Caleb wilson Of North carolina

1049
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: or the kid At. HOUSTON i, Mean i've watched more Of.

1050
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 3: Debonsa to be, fair it's very easy for us to

1051
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 3: Watch Debonsa jacobs night owls because we watched The pacers

1052
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 3: games AND byu primarily on The West. Coast so you

1053
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 3: watch A pacers game and then there you, Go, no that's,

1054
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 3: right you got second half OF byu and versus whomever And.

1055
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: Debonza WHEN i watch, him my mind begins to race

1056
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: Because i'm, like that's the that is absolutely for me

1057
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: IF i had the number one. Pick that is one

1058
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: hundred percent Where i'm. Going but yesterday De bonsa did

1059
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: an interview And i'm paraphrasing where he. Said we ACTUALLY

1060
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: i don't even need to paraphrase because we have the actual.

1061
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: Audio this is the, presumptive certainly top four pick at

1062
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: possibly number one pick in this year's. Draft should he

1063
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: be in the. Draft he is a freshman At Brigham.

1064
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:38,479
Speaker 1: Young here's aj, debonsa but.

1065
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 4: Do you care about going number? One do you want

1066
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 4: to go number?

1067
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: One? Yeah do you think you?

1068
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 7: Will, WELL i might not. Leave what do you, Mean

1069
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 7: leo had not leave? College why? Not, NO i just

1070
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 7: gotta resented the.

1071
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 4: Season so you haven't made up your mind that you're

1072
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 4: going to go into the.

1073
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 7: Draft, now, Come my mom wants me to. Graduate, really,

1074
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:01,919
Speaker 7: YES i might not, leave BUT i might. LEAVE i don't,

1075
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 7: know you, know the fans might might get into my

1076
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 7: head talk about you, know one more, year maybe three more.

1077
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 7: YEARS i don't. Know but Like i'm had touch my.

1078
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 7: Mom so so your mom wants you to stay and

1079
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 7: get your, degree SO i have to get my.

1080
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 8: Degree.

1081
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: Yeah why does she think it's important that you get your?

1082
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 7: Degree because you, know as, mom she's thinking like post

1083
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 7: basketball and you, Know god forbid if anything happens to,

1084
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 7: MEAN i should always have a backup. HIM i think

1085
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 7: people would be shocked to hear, that, though because everybody's

1086
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 7: assuming you're going into the draft after the. SEASON i, mean,

1087
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 7: yeah they can ASSUME i ain't nice spy say.

1088
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: Anything, okay death retting voices by the way is the

1089
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: podcast or the interview where that took. Place and yes

1090
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of it almost sounds like a gamesmanship.

1091
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: There but before you automatically, cynically AS i have a

1092
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: tendency to, do look at that and, say that's a

1093
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: guy speaking tongue in cheek just to poke the bear

1094
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: and do what he can and whatever. Else And i've

1095
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: said a million times the transfer, portal for, EXAMPLE i

1096
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: truly believe. This we live in a world now where

1097
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: And i'm not saying this is the case with De,

1098
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: bonsa but we live in a world where young, people

1099
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: understandably so have been conditioned into thinking that everything is

1100
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: about getting that spotlight on you for as frequent or

1101
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: as long a time as. Possible and young players in,

1102
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: basketball in, particular from the time they're fifteen years, old

1103
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: they're seeing all of the highlight reels that are going

1104
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 1: out in the TikTok, videos and they see all of

1105
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: the social media attention and love and praise and the

1106
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: showering of affection and attention and inspiration to come to

1107
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: their to come to your. School you see it all the.

1108
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: Time some player, says all, Right state you going to

1109
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: be on your campus this, weekend show me the. Love

1110
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: and then it's one hundred and fifty replies of guys

1111
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: that are, like, bro you got to come here to

1112
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 1: be awesome and let's go AND lfg and all of,

1113
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: it and they love. It and then they line the

1114
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: caps up and they go to an All, american you,

1115
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: know broadcast of, something and they have the hats lined

1116
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 1: up and they put the hat on and there's you,

1117
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: know they show the fans are celebrating on campus at that,

1118
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: university and they love. It AND i would have too

1119
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: WHEN i was at. AGE i absolutely would have been

1120
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: a disaster handling that kind of, attention no, question they love.

1121
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 1: It and then what happens now they're. Committed now the

1122
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 1: attention goes to the next guy and they're, like oh,

1123
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: gosh my mentions aren't as frequent as they used to.

1124
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: Be the TikTok videos aren't as much as they used to.

1125
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,959
Speaker 1: Be i'm not getting all the dms of people telling

1126
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 1: me how GREAT i am because they want me to

1127
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: come to their. School then it's please respect my. Decision

1128
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: i've reopened my. Recruiting oh that's. All here come the dms,

1129
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: Again here come the TikTok video here comes all the,

1130
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: attention and now we have in addition to that the

1131
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 1: nil factor to take in. Mind to keep in, mind

1132
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: and so any, player regardless of whether it is a

1133
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 1: guy that is a presumptive number one in the draft

1134
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 1: or a guy that is literally a backup point Guard

1135
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: gumby at A division two, school any player is going

1136
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: to do whatever they can to sit there and try

1137
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: to get as much money or sweeten the pot of

1138
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 1: their next situation as. Possible DeVonta is a guy that

1139
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: is making some what what is he making right now

1140
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: in nil reportedly as a freshman At Bring Him? Young

1141
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: like seven?

1142
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:36,959
Speaker 2: Million seven?

1143
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 1: Million, yeah seven million? Dollars, Now, eddie can you look

1144
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 1: up for me real quick, please what the initial payscal

1145
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 1: is for AN nba rookie, Contract because it's all slotted

1146
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,439
Speaker 1: now in. Stone if you are a the first pick,

1147
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: player the first player picked in THE nba, draft your

1148
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 1: guaranteed contract for your first, deal WHICH i think is

1149
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: what a four year? Deal what will it pay that

1150
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: player over the course of that four. Years AND i

1151
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: know that there's obviously shoe money and everything, else but

1152
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 1: in terms of YOUR nba, salary.

1153
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 3: So it's two guaranteed, years a third year, option and

1154
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 3: you have a fourth year, option and the percentage increase

1155
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 3: on the fourth year is based off the third year.

1156
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 2: Salary so that's in the minutia of.

1157
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 3: Things so if you're the first, overall pick your salary

1158
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 3: and year number one is eleven and a half million, dollars,

1159
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 3: okay in your second year it's twelve, million and the

1160
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 3: third year it is twelve point. Six that was for this.

1161
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 3: Season now it'll probably change just a little bit for

1162
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 3: the twenty six twenty seven. Season and the first two

1163
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 3: years are, guaranteed, right, yes twenty three. Guaranteed, listen a

1164
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 3: school Like Brigham, young and What i'm about to say

1165
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 3: is in no, way shape or form an indictment on.

1166
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 1: THEM i get. It Brigham young has a unique advantage

1167
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: because it is a university that is almost monopoly in

1168
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: terms of its connection to an affiliation to a. Church

1169
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,919
Speaker 1: notne wrong with, that but that means that you have

1170
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: a very loyal fan base and alumni base across the,

1171
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 1: country many of which are very successful from a business.

1172
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 1: Standpoint that if they're already paying seven million to a

1173
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: guy that was a senior in high school and they,

1174
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: said here's seven, million dollars to come To Brigham. YOUNG

1175
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: i guarantee you it would not be difficult for them

1176
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 1: to double that and say here's fourteen to come. Back,

1177
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: now it's not guaranteed beyond that, Year so maybe that

1178
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: comes into. Play but the reality is that we are

1179
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: now living in a. Climate we are now living in

1180
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 1: an era where the possibility exists for a top flight

1181
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: player to not only, match but perhaps exceed in a

1182
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: one year circumstance what they would get paid in THE

1183
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: nba by returning to. College and you, know because you've

1184
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 1: Already i've seen the proof of the pudden that he

1185
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: is going to be a dominant player and is not

1186
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 1: going to decrease his value next. Year so why not

1187
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 1: if he enjoys living In, Provo, utah if he enjoys

1188
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: the college, game if he looks at it and, says,

1189
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: MAN i think we're really close AT, Byu i've always

1190
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 1: wanted to play in the final, four or more, specifically

1191
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: if his mom indeed wants him to get a, DEGREE

1192
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 1: i understand. It there's also that gamesmanship that comes into

1193
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: play of, Look i'm doing this BECAUSE i like the

1194
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 1: love And Cooper flag a year ago said the same

1195
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 1: thing and then what. Happened but like a week after

1196
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: the tournament he announces he's coming. Out But eddie AND

1197
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 1: i get to see those games a lot of times

1198
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 1: because they're on late and we're night, owls AND byu

1199
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 1: is playing in The West coast at a later, time

1200
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 1: so to this weekend will not The West, coast but

1201
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: darn close to it in The mountain time. ZONE indycarbi In.

1202
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 1: Phoenix Davey hamilton is the driver analyst with us on

1203
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 1: The IndyCar Radio network presented By Only Bulls by The,

1204
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: way And davy will join us on the other side

1205
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: to talk about one of the most dominant things we've

1206
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:14,640
Speaker 1: seen in. Racing we'll get to it. Next IndyCar is

1207
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:20,839
Speaker 1: on its way To. Phoenix now this is of course

1208
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 1: not new to the schedule because it's been on the schedule.

1209
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 1: Before but back on the schedule is the easiest way

1210
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 1: to say. It AND i know that that is a

1211
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 1: thrill probably to a lot of people within The IndyCar,

1212
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 1: community because it means that they can hit the golf

1213
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 1: links if perhaps they're out there a little bit, early

1214
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 1: because there's great golfing In, arizona great golfing as Well

1215
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: april thirtieth at The Legends Golf club In. Franklin that

1216
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: is our Fan invitational golf outing presented By Franciscan. Health

1217
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 1: one of the great things about it is there will

1218
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: be screenings available for you on site From. Franciscan they'll

1219
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 1: be able to answer any of those health, questions maybe

1220
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: that maybe you know you didn't even think to ask your,

1221
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 1: doctor and it's right there and it's. Simple but most

1222
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 1: importantly a great day of. Golf the weather's going to be,

1223
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: fantastic one would assume In, april and The legends is

1224
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: a beautiful course ten thirty in the morning until five

1225
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: o'clock On april. Thirtieth we will all be out there

1226
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 1: doing the shows and swinging the golf club as. Well

1227
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 1: Kevin bowen last year was doing like best shot drives for.

1228
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: Everybody it was a lot of fun and it was

1229
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 1: a great day last. Year this year beginning of the golf,

1230
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 1: season if you, will all, animation what's that?

1231
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 2: Now what were you? Doing? Broadcasting meeting, people Hob, nobyn

1232
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 2: Being Eddie, white. Schmoozing that's.

1233
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 1: Right early bird special is available now for the rest

1234
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 1: of the, week meaning twenty five dollars off per person

1235
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 1: or one hundred dollars off per foursome for The Fan

1236
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 1: Invitational golf outing one oh seven to. Five the fan

1237
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 1: Dot com is the. Website joining us now on The

1238
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 1: Java House Colbrew coffee guest. Line he is the radio,

1239
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: analyst the driver, analyst the guru of driving for The

1240
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 1: IndyCar series on our radio. Network And Davey hamilton joining,

1241
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: us who is out In phoenix as we. Speak, Davy

1242
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,600
Speaker 1: i'm assuming seventy five and. Beautiful not a cloud in

1243
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 1: the sky In? Arizona is that?

1244
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 8: Right you miss it by two seventy.

1245
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 5: Seven oh, yeah, yeah it's too but it's beautiful out.

1246
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 5: Here actually had the track, Now, Jake And i'll tell you, this,

1247
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 5: well tamping to the, infield everything's packed, Already SO i

1248
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 5: mean it should be a it should be a good

1249
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 5: weekend coming up.

1250
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:26,679
Speaker 6: Here.

1251
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 1: OKAY i want to go over a couple of, things And, davy,

1252
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,799
Speaker 1: obviously you know when you're doing an afternoon radio, show

1253
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 1: we've got some people listening that are diehard race, fans

1254
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 1: and some listening that racing is not as familiar to, them,

1255
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: Right SO i want to kind of lay the groundwork

1256
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 1: for everybody, here and let's begin with. This we have

1257
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: a driver In Alex, polo who is getting ready to

1258
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: make his one hundredth career start in THE Ntt IndyCar

1259
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 1: series and he already has twenty, wins which means over

1260
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 1: twenty percent of the times that he suits, up he's

1261
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 1: winning a. Race did you see during your Time davy?

1262
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:00,799
Speaker 1: Driving you, know drivers kind of get an these, zones

1263
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 1: if you, will where just every single turn of the

1264
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 1: wheel seems to be the right. One is this as

1265
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 1: hot as you have ever seen a? Driver did you

1266
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: compete against anybody that was in that kind of a.

1267
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 8: Zone, no, never especially An indy.

1268
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 5: CAR i mean even coming up through the, ranks and

1269
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 5: you know you'd have some good.

1270
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 8: PEOPLE i mean in different.

1271
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 5: Ranks you got guys Like Steve, kinser people In World

1272
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 5: outlaws stuff that we're on rolls like.

1273
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 8: That by, this it's just.

1274
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 5: Unbelievable and what really shocks me a little, Bit jake

1275
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 5: is he's not he doesn't have more, wins the most

1276
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 5: wins in that amount of races and some OTHERS i

1277
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 5: think he's like fifth and with with Aj, Foyd mario And.

1278
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 5: Jretti but you got to go way back in the.

1279
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 5: History but to see that so and in current, day

1280
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 5: as difficult as it is to win any, rate as

1281
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 5: competitive as.

1282
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 8: It, is he's he's the.

1283
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 5: Man it's just WHEN i watch him, RACE i can't

1284
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 5: understand how he can be so smooth and make it

1285
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 5: look so easy and just dominate these guys.

1286
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: Well and, So, david let me ask you from as

1287
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 1: somebody who has not, raced and you have, Right is

1288
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 1: it the matter of the separation from a great driver

1289
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 1: to a good? Driver is it a matter of that

1290
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 1: driver being able to look at a corner and understand

1291
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 1: where you can kind of cut the corner to be

1292
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,599
Speaker 1: Faster or is it a matter of actually having the

1293
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 1: hand eye coordination to execute what everybody else can see

1294
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 1: but very few can. Deliver is it a matter of

1295
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: seeing it or delivering?

1296
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 6: It?

1297
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 5: Well you, KNOW i think there's there's more to that

1298
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 5: to the answer than just.

1299
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 8: THAT i, mean obviously he has.

1300
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 5: Such natural talent that is above and beyond any other,

1301
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 5: driver BUT i think it goes so far beyond that

1302
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 5: to be dominant like he is right, Now. Jake and

1303
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 5: that is the, whole the entire, Package BECAUSE i think to,

1304
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 5: myself could he be doing this in a piskey?

1305
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 8: Car could he be doing this.

1306
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 5: In an arrow car or an ath car Or i'm

1307
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 5: sorry all he is, Anastic BUT i think it's a

1308
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 5: situation obviously that you have to have the right. Team

1309
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 5: you have to have the right engineer, staff you have

1310
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 5: to have the right crewman versus the driver has to

1311
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 5: be able to work with that dag and that engineer

1312
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 5: and know exactly what each other. WANT i went through

1313
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 5: that in my career early, on and especially super, modifieds

1314
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 5: where my cruit chiefs AND i just.

1315
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 8: Meshed we just he knew WHAT i was going.

1316
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 5: To ask for BEFORE i asked for, it and he

1317
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 5: knew the urgency of it IF i just had a

1318
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 5: little bit of a, push or if it was a big,

1319
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:23,600
Speaker 5: bush and how to go about fixing it to my.

1320
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:27,480
Speaker 5: Liking AND i think that's the situation That alex.

1321
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 8: Has with that entire.

1322
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 5: GROUP i just think that there's because there's a lot

1323
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 5: of other great race drivers out, there BUT.

1324
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 8: I think that's taking him above and.

1325
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 5: Beyond he's got that magic group of people behind him

1326
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 5: to make it and make it look so easy for.

1327
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 1: Him is it possible that sort of Chemistry davy just

1328
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 1: never meshes between a driver and the, strategist regardless of

1329
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 1: how long they've worked. Together for.

1330
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 5: Sure, yeah we've seen that as, Well, Jake. RIGHT i

1331
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 5: mean you can go back AND i think that's a

1332
01:14:55,800 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 5: situation with quite a few drivers, actually unfortunately that just

1333
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 5: don't Have they just don't see eye to eye on

1334
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 5: how they want the car or how it should, be

1335
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 5: or what direction the team should. Go and that's you,

1336
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 5: know it's.

1337
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 8: Pretty sad actually that some of these.

1338
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 5: Are now we've seen some really good race rivers be

1339
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 5: put in that situation and then all of a sudden

1340
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 5: they're kind of you, know we don't talk about, it

1341
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 5: and they're now running out, front and a of sudden

1342
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 5: they go to a different team and a little more

1343
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 5: of that magic. Appears and so that tells you a

1344
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 5: lot right. There that driver didn't just learn how to drive.

1345
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 5: Overnight it's a complete package just to put.

1346
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:32,679
Speaker 1: Together you, Know eddie just pointed out something, Interesting, davey

1347
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 1: AND i wanted to get your thought on. It Davey

1348
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,879
Speaker 1: hamilton's my. Guest he's the driver analyst for The IndyCar

1349
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 1: Radio network presented By Only Bulls. IndyCar this weekend In,

1350
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 1: phoenix When Alex, polo you, know people forget when When

1351
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 1: castro And nevis won his fourth inty five, hundred it

1352
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 1: Was Alex polo that he had to hold, off And

1353
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 1: polo was there and and quite, frankly you, Know caster

1354
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 1: And nevis kind of out cat and moused him there

1355
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 1: in terms of when to pass and you know those

1356
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 1: sorts of. Things as a, driver do you put that

1357
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 1: stuff in the memory bank and learn from? It and

1358
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:05,799
Speaker 1: did that Benefit Alex polo's?

1359
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 5: Career, well for, SURE i, did you, know because you

1360
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 5: to be the, best you have to beat the best,

1361
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 5: first and that's what he's been able to.

1362
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 8: Do and he you, know when It's Aliol.

1363
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 5: Cash nevis obviously a four time, winner a guy that's you,

1364
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:21,839
Speaker 5: know been a match behind the sharing world for, years

1365
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 5: why not learn from those guys that have done, it have been,

1366
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,679
Speaker 5: there seen. It and THEN i think Once alex really

1367
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 5: got on that winning streak or got several wins and

1368
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 5: got that confidence and knew exactly how to go about

1369
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 5: it and what to, do and you that team and

1370
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 5: him we were, on you, know in his, mind, unbeatable

1371
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 5: AND i think that was the attitude that once he got,

1372
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 5: back that's where things really took.

1373
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 4: Off.

1374
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 8: It but racing against guys Like.

1375
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 5: Elio and and and so many others, obviously you know

1376
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 5: From New gardens to, them you know a lot.

1377
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 8: Of, them they're still Will. Power let's put him out.

1378
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 8: There he's been racing a long, Time Scott.

1379
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 5: Dixon and by the, Way Scott, dixon look at his,

1380
01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 5: record look what he's been able to.

1381
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 8: Do and they're, inmates so and they trust.

1382
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 5: Me every, debrief every, debrief after, practices he's looking at

1383
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 5: What scott's done and how he goes about things and

1384
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 5: just soaking in all that.

1385
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 8: Information it's just taken to the next.

1386
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:15,799
Speaker 1: Level, Now, davey let's get to this this, weekend Because

1387
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 1: IndyCar now goes off of a street course race and

1388
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 1: onto an oval In. Phoenix and for those that are,

1389
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 1: unfamiliar it's obviously different because one requires left and right handed,

1390
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 1: turns the other requires a different chassis set up and

1391
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 1: simply going out there and driving on an. Oval the

1392
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: first QUESTION i would have is from a psychological standpoint

1393
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 1: as a, driver does that require? Adjustment?

1394
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 5: Yeah you know, SO i think you, know there's some

1395
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 5: drivers that have a lot of confidence on, ovals you,

1396
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 5: Know will And New guard that's to, them just right

1397
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 5: off the top of my, HEAD i Think, potto and

1398
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 5: obviously About dixon And falow as. Well there's other drivers

1399
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 5: AND i, think you know that still aren't completely. Comfortable

1400
01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 5: from The rose And quiz to The. Grogeons they they

1401
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 5: they're okay on the, ovals they can do good on the,

1402
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 5: ovals but they don't have that full knowledge or full

1403
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 5: confidence on exactly what it takes to. Win and and

1404
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 5: the ovals are. Tough you, know they're. FAST i mean

1405
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 5: you're going so, fast you, know two hundred plus miles an.

1406
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 5: Hour and the consequence if you make a mistake of a,

1407
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 5: wall you, KNOW i, mean there's no real you.

1408
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 8: KNOW i mean.

1409
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 5: It's the consequences are very very high compared to the

1410
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 5: street and the road. Course so and the speeds are

1411
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 5: just crazy.

1412
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 8: High SO i.

1413
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,639
Speaker 5: Think that that puts a whole different. Element and that's

1414
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:29,680
Speaker 5: WHY i love. DOBLES i think, that you, know you

1415
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 5: have to drive. THEM i, mean it's it's it's not

1416
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:34,680
Speaker 5: just holding down especially here at intings and and just

1417
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 5: drive around and and be a bravery takee bravery. Test

1418
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 5: it's it's a lot of talent goes into, this AND

1419
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 5: i take that special talent to be able to move

1420
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 5: to the.

1421
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 8: Front i'm Glad phoenix is back on the schedule has

1422
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 8: changed a lot. Since, uh it's What i've ran on With.

1423
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:51,679
Speaker 5: IndyCar i've been on this se configuration with A silver Ground,

1424
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 5: car but Not.

1425
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:54,799
Speaker 8: IndyCar it's. Different but you know WHAT i think.

1426
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:56,639
Speaker 5: LIKE i think they're going to put on a good

1427
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 5: show and it's going to be exciting to you, know

1428
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 5: have so many different race divisions at one place at

1429
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 5: one time for these.

1430
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: Fans, okay, Lastly, davy because we know that this weekend

1431
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 1: is not Just, IndyCar but you've Got cup there as.

1432
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 1: Well so you have different racing series laying down different

1433
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:19,799
Speaker 1: rubber compounds from different tire. Manufacturers how big a curve

1434
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 1: ball will that be For IndyCar in terms of feeling

1435
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:26,679
Speaker 1: out that grip and figuring out how exactly your car

1436
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 1: is going to maneuver until you get a compound that

1437
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 1: your car likes laid down on the.

1438
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 6: Track, well that's a really good.

1439
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 8: POINT i mean a really really good.

1440
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 5: Point shake because that is something that we've always run

1441
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 5: into with different divisions that we race. Against but one

1442
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 5: Thing i'll say is we race with the, crash the

1443
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 5: trucks last week In safteyte and that rubber didn't really

1444
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 5: seem to change up The IndyCar handling much and it

1445
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 5: didn't seem to you, know lay too much rubber down

1446
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 5: where we toiled a lot of it. Off so it's

1447
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:56,640
Speaker 5: going to be interesting in its definitely going to be a.

1448
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 5: Challenge but the good news is for us we Race

1449
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 5: saturday after so we're before The instanity, Race we're before

1450
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 5: THE Nascar cup, race so majority that rubber that's gonna

1451
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 5: get laid down will be after us, actually SO i

1452
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:12,759
Speaker 5: think that once we get our guardies on the, track

1453
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 5: they get it balanced with the. Car, yes there will

1454
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:17,680
Speaker 5: be some in between practices with those other, divisions BUT

1455
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:19,839
Speaker 5: i don't think it's gonna be bigger of a play

1456
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 5: as we thought it.

1457
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 8: Was going to be Once i've seen this.

1458
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:23,879
Speaker 6: Schedule davy will.

1459
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 1: Be on the call along With Mark james in the

1460
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 1: booth for the race In phoenix coming up this, weekend

1461
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 1: and you can hear, it of course right here on

1462
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 1: this radio station For Indy. CAR a, busy busy, day

1463
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 1: two thirty in the, afternoon by the, way will be

1464
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 1: the race On saturday coming up From. Phoenix davey appreciate

1465
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 1: the time as.

1466
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 6: Always thanks, shake appreciate.

1467
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 9: It.

1468
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 1: Pal my headset fell out, There. Eddie did he say

1469
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 1: goodbye to?

1470
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 2: Me, yeah he said thanks For.

1471
01:20:55,120 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 1: Pal Suck Sorry, Davy thank you To. Pal davy AND,

1472
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 1: i by the, way one. Time i've told the story

1473
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 1: a million times, before but it's one of the. Best

1474
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:06,639
Speaker 1: we were At Long beach for an IndyCar race And

1475
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 1: davy AND i shared a. Ride we got a rental

1476
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 1: car together to go From lax To Long, beach and

1477
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:14,640
Speaker 1: the only car they had left in the stable of

1478
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 1: rental cars was like a thirty foot long like four TO.

1479
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: Ltd we were Like Walter mathow And Jack, lemon just

1480
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 1: tooling down the one oh five or whatever road at

1481
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 1: the four oh five or whatever it is To Long.

1482
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 1: BEACH i THINK i Think davey got pulled, over, actually

1483
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 1: and he's like the, guys you, know like the guy's

1484
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 1: been in THE ny five, hundred a couple of top,

1485
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 1: tens you know WHAT i. Mean we come back plenty

1486
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 1: to get to still including do we now have a

1487
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:44,719
Speaker 1: better idea of where things might fall In colts free

1488
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 1: agency as that is up ahead in front of, us

1489
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 1: and a couple of curve balls to throw into. That

1490
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 1: we'll get to. It this is not just An eddie.

1491
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 1: Singing this is An eddie subliminal because you've got some

1492
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 1: tickets to give, away, Right oh, Yes.

1493
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 3: Jake and it's not just it's four, tickets four pack

1494
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 3: of tickets To Sunday's Big Ten Women's basketball championship.

1495
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:12,480
Speaker 2: Game we've got four and a pack to give, away.

1496
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 1: And you would like to do that in what?

1497
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 2: Fashion have them? Feeling the text line? Today, okay we've

1498
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 2: done call.

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01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 3: In we got to give some people some opportunity here

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01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 3: that can't call, in but they're listening to us on you,

1501
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 3: know on, YouTube whether they're listening to us on the.

1502
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 1: App so the text line being two three nine ten

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01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 1: seventy two nine one zero seven, zero and you can

1504
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 1: send in a text this is for your chance to

1505
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 1: win tickets to the championships right of The Big Ten

1506
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 1: Women's tournament coming Up Sunday Gamebridge Field.

1507
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 2: House did you watch THAT iu game yesterday at?

1508
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 6: All what a?

1509
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 1: Comeback they were down twenty, right, yeah and the third

1510
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 1: quarter down twenty, one they come back and win by.

1511
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 2: Three chest was fantastic in that second.

1512
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 1: Half Terry moran joined us yesterday on the program and

1513
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:56,600
Speaker 1: which was great and that was good karma for them

1514
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 1: as they go on to. Win so you were going

1515
01:22:58,240 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 1: to do this in what? Fashion?

1516
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 2: Eddie that's a great.

1517
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 3: QUESTION i hadn't gotten that far and thinking how we're

1518
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 3: going to do this just. Yet the text line is

1519
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 3: still is starting to get busy. Though is It Women's

1520
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,799
Speaker 3: big ten? Tickets? TICKETS i would like the? Tickets?

1521
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 1: Please, well looks like you got your work got up

1522
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 1: for you, there.

1523
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 3: Buddy, Yeah so pick a number, Then, JAKE i guess

1524
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 3: text or what number?

1525
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 1: Seven only?

1526
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 2: Seven when we were going to get like thirty of?

1527
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 4: These?

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01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 1: Okay forty, okay forty four zero forty okay if you

1529
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 1: were the fortieth per so you got to send the

1530
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 1: text right now and just hope that you slide in

1531
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 1: as number. Forty that's, right two, three, nine. Seventy big

1532
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 1: news earlier today in The National Football, league and it

1533
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: does have implication that could ripple To. Indianapolis The Buffalo

1534
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:54,480
Speaker 1: bills are ACQUIRING Dj moore in a trade With, chicago

1535
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 1: and your initial thought on that probably, is, well that

1536
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 1: is good news For indianapolis because The bills seemed like

1537
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:04,640
Speaker 1: the perfect fit For Alec pierce and it felt like

1538
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 1: that was the team that was going to come after

1539
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 1: him and pluck him away in free. Agency and then

1540
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 1: The colts are left standing there, saying what the world?

1541
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 1: Happened Insert John travolta pulp fiction. Meme but could this

1542
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 1: actually be bad news For? Indianapolis because Could Alec pierce

1543
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 1: did look At chicago and maybe it starts dancing around

1544
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 1: in the back of his head and he thinks about

1545
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 1: that fabulous play in the? Playoffs was it playoffs or

1546
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:33,719
Speaker 1: the end of regular?

1547
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 3: Season hard to keep track with all those plays that

1548
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 3: can in, there.

1549
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 1: BUT i think it was the end of the regular

1550
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 1: season When Caleb williams looked like he was going to be.

1551
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 1: Sacked it's fourth and, long he's dancing, around he's on

1552
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 1: the back, heel and he just wings one into the.

1553
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 3: CORNER i believe it was the opening round Against Green

1554
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 3: bay in the.

1555
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 1: Playoffs that's the game you're thinking. About it was It

1556
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 1: Dj moore that had to catch in?

1557
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:56,680
Speaker 10: That?

1558
01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 3: Uh Dj moore had the walk touchdown win Against Green

1559
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 3: bay in the, Regulars that's what it. Was but he

1560
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 3: Hit Cole kament in the end zone in the. Playoffs

1561
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 3: but either, way if you're a.

1562
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 1: Receiver you've got to be thinking to, yourself there is

1563
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 1: no greater dream than playing with a quarterback that has

1564
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 1: the ability to extend plays when all hell's breaking, loose

1565
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,599
Speaker 1: but in addition to, that then has the arm strength

1566
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 1: to deliver the football at the last. Moment And Alec,

1567
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 1: pierce who is a native of The chicago, area now

1568
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 1: sees that with The bears sitting away one of their

1569
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 1: primary deep ball receiving, threats does that open the? Door

1570
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 1: and Does Alec pierce say to, himself you know WHAT

1571
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 1: i Like. INDIANAPOLIS i like the people Of. INDIANAPOLIS i

1572
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 1: Like west fifty Sixth. Street. YEP i am interested in

1573
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 1: going somewhere that most suits my. Needs And i'm interested

1574
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 1: going some interested in going somewhere that most can pay

1575
01:25:57,439 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 1: me cash. Shola BUT i feel kind of bad going

1576
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 1: somewhere WHERE i might face The colts in the. Playoffs

1577
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 1: you know, WHAT, nfc, baby AND i might be able

1578
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 1: to still play in the state Of, indiana.

1579
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 3: Did you and, yeah to be able to go watch

1580
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 3: his brother In West. Lafia did you catch at the

1581
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:15,599
Speaker 3: end of that interview With kadams yesterday him talking about

1582
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 3: like what he's looking for in his next team like he,

1583
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 3: highlighted like the stable quarterback position all. That but the

1584
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 3: one thing that stood out to me that was the

1585
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 3: most Un Alex pierce comment ever was the fact that he, Goes,

1586
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 3: hey whoever is paying, me they're gonna have to target.

1587
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 1: Me AND i know.

1588
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 3: That so the days of me getting eighty targets or

1589
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 3: eighty four targets or whatever it was he had this

1590
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 3: past season with The cult are.

1591
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 1: Over.

1592
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 3: Right if you're going to be paying me thirty million, dollars,

1593
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 3: WELL i expect to be targeted over one hundred times

1594
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:45,759
Speaker 3: in a. Season is that going to be a factor

1595
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:49,520
Speaker 3: in all at all in these negotiations that he has with, Teams.

1596
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 1: Well you would think that that Makes chicago that much

1597
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 1: more appealing because one of their primary targets is now In.

1598
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 3: Buffalo, perhaps but THEY'RE Dj moore didn't even have the

1599
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:58,759
Speaker 3: most targets for them last. Year it Was Roma dunze

1600
01:26:58,880 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 3: and he had.

1601
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,600
Speaker 1: Ninety romadunze is an, emerging good young, player no doubt about. It,

1602
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 1: Yeah and that's the other thing to look. At that's

1603
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 1: the other thing to look at is you, know, hey

1604
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:13,680
Speaker 1: is this mean actually The bears are not going to

1605
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 1: target in somebody, else but they feel Like Roma dunze

1606
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 1: is ready to make that next. STEP i mean that

1607
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 1: is also entirely. Possible when we come, back get ready for,

1608
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 1: basketball Because march starts here and there's a group of

1609
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 1: people that are right down the street from here that

1610
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 1: have been working feverishly to put everything. Together and we're

1611
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 1: going to talk to one of. Them i'm talking about

1612
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 1: the Interim commissioner of The Horizon league as their championships

1613
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 1: are getting set to get underway At Curteva coliseum at

1614
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 1: The Indiana State, fairgrounds presented By. Barbasol we'll have that

1615
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 1: conversation next, Now, Eddie i'm going to say it to

1616
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 1: you before our guest here because it sounds a little,

1617
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 1: awkward AND i know that that's shocking coming from. Me

1618
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 1: but if you want to know how local THE ncaa

1619
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 1: tournament and basketball is To Central, indiana get this fun. Fact,

1620
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 1: okay not fun, fact but this interesting ANECDOTE i was recently.

1621
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:15,839
Speaker 1: Watching and of course there is a lot that has

1622
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 1: been made and has been for years in this town

1623
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 1: of the, terrible but fortunately everything turned out to be.

1624
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 1: Okay but you know there's a movie coming. Out if

1625
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 1: it's not already out about The Tony carritzis, situation which

1626
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:35,680
Speaker 1: was in nineteen seventy. Seven Tony caritzis felt that he

1627
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 1: had been wronged By Meridian, mortgage which is a no

1628
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:41,679
Speaker 1: LONGER i don't think, around but at that, Time Richard

1629
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 1: hall was a mortgage loan broker And Tony kurtziz felt

1630
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 1: he had been wronged with a loan that was denied

1631
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 1: of him and famously stormed Into Meridian mortgage and then

1632
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 1: took Hostage Dick hall for three. Days and it was

1633
01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 1: a national story that was you, know people were or

1634
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 1: just totally engrossed in this back in an era of

1635
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 1: live television and. Etc And i'm watching the videos of

1636
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 1: this and THEN i, realized wait a, minute that building looks,

1637
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 1: familiar the building that he went into At Meridian, mortgage

1638
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 1: in this iconic story Of indianapolis lore looks. Familiar and

1639
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 1: then it dawns on, Me, oh that's the Building i've been,

1640
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 1: in because that is now home to The Horizon. League

1641
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:29,599
Speaker 1: AND i think people don't realize when they think about

1642
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 1: THE ncaa, tournament they think about the thrill Of march,

1643
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 1: madness they think about all of the schools that are

1644
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 1: involved that one of the key league's key conferences within

1645
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 1: the tournament is based right, here not just In, indianapolis

1646
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 1: but right in the shadows Of Monument. Circle and in

1647
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 1: addition to, that it's Where march. Starts because there's nothing

1648
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 1: better Than Championship, week and it all starts off with

1649
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:59,680
Speaker 1: The Barbasol Horizon League Basketball championships taking place at The

1650
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 1: State paragrounds At Couteva, coliseum both men's and women's standpoint

1651
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 1: and their interim commissioner because their, Commissioner Julie, rolash who's

1652
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:10,679
Speaker 1: been on this, program has taken on a new role

1653
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 1: within The Indiana, pacers and so as a result of,

1654
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,280
Speaker 1: That Chris, newman who has long been THE coo of

1655
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 1: The Horizon, league is now the acting Interim commissioner and

1656
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 1: will do so until Mid. April But chris joins us

1657
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 1: now on The Java House Colbrew coffee guest. Line And,

1658
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 1: CHRIS i got wonderful news for. You are you ready

1659
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 1: for the big breaking news of the day that's going

1660
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 1: to have you thrilled to all can get out?

1661
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 4: HERE i would love?

1662
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 10: It what is?

1663
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:39,600
Speaker 1: IT i am as clean shaven as it can possibly

1664
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:42,680
Speaker 1: be this, morning and my face as smooth as can

1665
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 1: be BECAUSE i used Barbis al this morning WHEN i.

1666
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:47,600
Speaker 10: Shaved, OH i love, That, jake and we need to

1667
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:48,559
Speaker 10: send you some products for.

1668
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:51,879
Speaker 1: That, no, no, no, no, LISTEN i no payel Of plugola.

1669
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 1: HERE i got no problem Giving barbasol a couple of

1670
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 1: my hard earned bucks because they're sponsoring what is Truly And,

1671
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 1: chris this is interesting because you, KNOW i went a

1672
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 1: couple of years, ago and let me tell you WHAT

1673
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 1: i love about. THIS i love the fact that in

1674
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:10,639
Speaker 1: a couple of years, AGO i remember. GOING i took

1675
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 1: a young man That i've known for a long time

1676
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 1: and his friend and we went out to watch The

1677
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 1: Horizon League championships at the. Coliseum AND i love the

1678
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 1: fact that this is an opportunity for, people especially to

1679
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 1: take young people to watch high Level division one. Athletics

1680
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 1: but at the same, TIME i think it's such a

1681
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:32,679
Speaker 1: great introduction and opportunity for people to take young folks

1682
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 1: to go see college athletics and just get introduced to

1683
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:39,800
Speaker 1: the college, atmosphere you, know introduce them to whether it

1684
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:42,640
Speaker 1: BE Iu indie or one of the local, teams or

1685
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 1: just the fact that they're seeing people representing their school

1686
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:48,599
Speaker 1: and playing for the right to put it on an

1687
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 1: even bigger. STAGE i just love everything about it being

1688
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:54,080
Speaker 1: right here at The. Coliseum BUT i know that it's

1689
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 1: a lot more detailed than. That so if you could,

1690
01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 1: please thanks for joining, us but tell me about all

1691
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:01,760
Speaker 1: the work that's going on into what will culminate at the.

1692
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 10: Coliseum, yeah, Well, jake thanks for having. Me BUT i think,

1693
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:09,639
Speaker 10: Too as you, noted it is an incredible community event

1694
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:11,880
Speaker 10: that we put on, here and we're adding more teams this,

1695
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 10: year which we're super excited. About as you, noted we're

1696
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 10: starting really On, Sunday march, eighth and It's Family. Day

1697
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:20,439
Speaker 10: we're going to have two incredible. Games we're going to

1698
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:24,439
Speaker 10: start with an intrastate rivalry WITH Iu indianapolis playing p

1699
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 10: Newe Fort wayne for a women's, game and then we're

1700
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 10: going to kick off later that afternoon With Green bay

1701
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:32,839
Speaker 10: Playing Northern. Kentucky but we're going to have incredible Family

1702
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 10: day activities and activations for folks of all. Ages and

1703
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 10: to your, point it's an opportunity to really bring folks

1704
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:41,760
Speaker 10: here to come see high level, basketball and that's what

1705
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 10: starts us here On, Sunday.

1706
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 8: March, ase you.

1707
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:49,880
Speaker 1: Know this does Come. Chris, realistically at least, traditionally it

1708
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:53,639
Speaker 1: does right kind of ahead of when other conferences are

1709
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 1: doing their. Championships is that by? Design it?

1710
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:58,559
Speaker 8: Is, Yeah march starts. Here was by.

1711
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:01,880
Speaker 10: Design we had our playing game that started earlier this

1712
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 10: week On, monday and it is and we wanted to

1713
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 10: really culminate here In indianapolis with second, round semi finals

1714
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:11,200
Speaker 10: and championships, happening and then obviously with this year hosting

1715
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 10: and we are a co host of the Men's final,

1716
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 10: Four march really does start here In.

1717
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Chris newman is my. Guest she is the interim

1718
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 1: commissioner of The Horizon. League but you have been around

1719
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:23,560
Speaker 1: The Horizon league for a long. TIME i wanted to

1720
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 1: touch on something THAT i noticed And i'm a fan of, This, Chris,

1721
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 1: okay your predecessor in the position that you're currently holding

1722
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:35,719
Speaker 1: Was julia Ro. Lash of, course AS i, mentioned you've

1723
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:39,439
Speaker 1: worked with her for a very long. Time that the

1724
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 1: hire that will take place In. April Jill bodensteiner comes

1725
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 1: From Saint joseph's and The Atlantic, ten but has been

1726
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 1: in The. Midwest she was At Notre. Dame but the

1727
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 1: fact that you have three women that are leading the

1728
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 1: charge of this conference Within division One athletics and what

1729
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 1: that means for the, conference but also what it means

1730
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 1: in terms of just being conscientious of women in sport

1731
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:09,719
Speaker 1: and the equality that comes with that for this league

1732
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 1: and its. Representation can you speak to if you, Could,

1733
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 1: chris just what that does mean for you, personally but

1734
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:19,600
Speaker 1: also what it means for the overall initiatives of the.

1735
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 6: League, yeah it's.

1736
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 10: INCREDIBLE i, mean to work with and For julie was.

1737
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 10: Amazing she's an incredible leader here and just a community

1738
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,200
Speaker 10: member in this. City and then getting to work With

1739
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 10: jill have had multiple. Conversations she's really looking forward to

1740
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 10: embracing and getting involved in the community when she starts

1741
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 10: here in Mid. April you, know it's been a key

1742
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 10: focal point and as you know To, jake it is

1743
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:44,719
Speaker 10: an amplifying event that really surrounds our championship as. Well

1744
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 10: we have a Key Bank International Women's. Day it takes

1745
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 10: place On, Tuesday march tenth at five point. Thirty Key

1746
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 10: bank has been a great partner of ours for this

1747
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 10: event for multiple years, now but this year's panel is

1748
01:34:56,840 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 10: a power packed panel of Key indie women. LEADERS Nca

1749
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:04,840
Speaker 10: Vice president of men's Basketball joey And Scott Bloom based

1750
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 10: founder AND Ceo Sherry, fella And Indianapolis Sports Court chief

1751
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 10: of Staffs Sarah meyer round out our panel With Olivia wes,

1752
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:16,160
Speaker 10: Moderating and it's an awesome opportunity to hear these key

1753
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 10: women leaders talk about their, story their, challenges and the

1754
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:23,679
Speaker 10: opportunities they've had to lead in this. City so, again

1755
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:26,920
Speaker 10: it really pulls through who our current leadership has been

1756
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 10: is going to. Be and then also at our athletic

1757
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 10: director level and our board, level our council chair and

1758
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 10: our board chair are also. Females you.

1759
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:40,679
Speaker 1: Know the reality also is, This, chris we are entering

1760
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:43,800
Speaker 1: into not even, ENTERING i, mean we are now right

1761
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:48,680
Speaker 1: in the thick of this unknown frontier of, name image and.

1762
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:50,880
Speaker 1: Likeness AND i know that The Horizon league has been

1763
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 1: very aware of what that, means not just for the,

1764
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 1: league but For division one athletics as, well you, know

1765
01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 1: opting into and our remember talking To julie about, this

1766
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:04,519
Speaker 1: and it was well beyond my intellectual, scale, RIGHT i,

1767
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 1: MEAN i decipher ball scores for a, living that's the

1768
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:11,639
Speaker 1: extent of. It but the nil era and where it, stands,

1769
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 1: right now with The Horizon, league how is, THAT i

1770
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 1: guess creating or is it any sort of a chasm

1771
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 1: between leagues In division one athletics and how does The

1772
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 1: Horizon league continue to try to navigate those? Waters, YEAH i.

1773
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 10: Think it, Is like, obviously it's a dynamic intercollegiate athletics

1774
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 10: landscape that we're facing right. NOW i think it's really

1775
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 10: there's a lot of collaboration with other conferences at the

1776
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:39,280
Speaker 10: mid major level that we really lean into on. That

1777
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 10: and then we also really try to support our membership

1778
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:44,160
Speaker 10: daily on this because they're on the front lines of.

1779
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:46,759
Speaker 10: It but then how can we be innovative to really

1780
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 10: help them to navigate it as it happens in real?

1781
01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 1: Time do you think we will get to the point

1782
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 1: where there will be some sort And i'm going to

1783
01:36:57,000 --> 01:37:00,120
Speaker 1: Use chris a term that sounds, ABSURD i realized And

1784
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:02,360
Speaker 1: i'm using it for lack of a better. Phrase, okay

1785
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 1: but are we getting to a point where there will

1786
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:08,560
Speaker 1: be some sort of a quote salary cap or it

1787
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:12,280
Speaker 1: seems to me in talking to whether it be people

1788
01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:14,920
Speaker 1: at The Horizon league or like yesterday talking To Ryan,

1789
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 1: carr who's now the executive director For indiana basketball in

1790
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:21,680
Speaker 1: The Big. Ten it almost feels like everybody is in

1791
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:24,479
Speaker 1: this hallway and they're just waiting for somebody to give

1792
01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 1: them a uniform flashlight to see the light on where

1793
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:30,559
Speaker 1: this is all. Headed do we need some sort of

1794
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 1: a defined limit on what exactly can be done with

1795
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:35,799
Speaker 1: this wild west of the? Nil?

1796
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:38,840
Speaker 10: YEAH i do think to figure out how we can

1797
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:41,680
Speaker 10: all work together in find a solution. Together and this

1798
01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:44,040
Speaker 10: is going to be really important as we all navigate.

1799
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 1: It Chris newman is my. Guest he is the interim

1800
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:50,520
Speaker 1: commissioner for The Horizon. League the twenty twenty Six Barbasol

1801
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:54,400
Speaker 1: Horizon League Basketball championships are upon us ticket information At

1802
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 1: Verizon league dot com Slash indie that's where you can

1803
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:01,719
Speaker 1: find all the ticket. Information, Again sunday that is coming

1804
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 1: up This sunday At Quataba. Coliseum that's the coliseum at

1805
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:07,599
Speaker 1: The State. Fairgrounds it Is Perdue Fort wayne AND Iu

1806
01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:10,600
Speaker 1: indie women's. Basketball that's the matinee if you will in the,

1807
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 1: afternoon and then men also are partaking after the women

1808
01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 1: get done with. Things it's an awesome time out. There

1809
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:21,080
Speaker 1: one of the things, Also, chris THAT i noticed AND

1810
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 1: i love this an opportunity for a bunch of school

1811
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 1: age kids to come out, right because don't you also

1812
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 1: have school day anthem school day that's taking?

1813
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 10: Place we, do, Yeah, Jake On, Tuesday march, tenth Our

1814
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:35,680
Speaker 10: Women's championship games at, Noon so we bring close to

1815
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:38,479
Speaker 10: over three thousand school age kids that get to really

1816
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:42,120
Speaker 10: experience possibly their first college basketball. Game so they get

1817
01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 10: to come cheer our women champions. On but before they

1818
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:47,840
Speaker 10: get to watch the, game they get to participate in

1819
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:53,200
Speaker 10: thirty PLUS stem related activity stations in an adjacent building

1820
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:57,240
Speaker 10: to really get that educational component before potentially watching their

1821
01:38:57,280 --> 01:38:58,760
Speaker 10: first school age game that they've ever.

1822
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:02,840
Speaker 1: Seen or A division one athlete, yourself, Right, Valpo If

1823
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 1: i'm not, mistaken? CORRECT i?

1824
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 10: WAS i played softball, there.

1825
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:08,559
Speaker 1: Yep and so how do you lean on that when

1826
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:10,759
Speaker 1: you go? Back you, know how often do you find

1827
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:13,720
Speaker 1: Yourself Chris Chris neiman my guests on The Java House

1828
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 1: Coldbrew coffee guest, line how often do you find yourself

1829
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 1: just when you're thinking about a decision that needs to

1830
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 1: be made or you, know those sorts of. Things do

1831
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 1: you resort back to speaking to the athlete version of? Yourself?

1832
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 4: Oh all the?

1833
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:31,800
Speaker 10: TIME i think to be able to relate to what

1834
01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:33,920
Speaker 10: they go through day in and day, out and the

1835
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:37,720
Speaker 10: training the academics competing on the field or on the

1836
01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:41,200
Speaker 10: court every. Day any decision we make the student athlete

1837
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 10: is focused first because the experience we provide them and

1838
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:47,200
Speaker 10: the impact we make on their lives is ever.

1839
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:50,040
Speaker 1: Changing what's the biggest challenge in your?

1840
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:54,680
Speaker 10: Role, WELL i think right now the biggest thing is

1841
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:57,800
Speaker 10: the national. Landscape as you, talked you, know whether it

1842
01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 10: BE nil and everything that's happening here nationally has been

1843
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:04,920
Speaker 10: our biggest challenge because, internally our eleven institutions across this

1844
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:08,519
Speaker 10: incredible six state mid est footprint are very aligned and

1845
01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:11,680
Speaker 10: committed to continuing to move our league. Forward SO i

1846
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 10: think just as we are really navigating the national, landscapes

1847
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 10: that's the biggest challenge at the.

1848
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:18,320
Speaker 1: Moment what's the biggest reward.

1849
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:21,639
Speaker 10: All providing these major experiences for our student. Athletes putting

1850
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 10: on nineteen championships in the nineteen sports we sponsor to

1851
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 10: showcase them at the highest level before, that then team

1852
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:32,559
Speaker 10: that's representing The Horizon league in THE Ncaa tournament is

1853
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:36,720
Speaker 10: absolutely the biggest. Reward and seeing the memories that they

1854
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:39,800
Speaker 10: get to make and the experiences they get to have is.

1855
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 1: Incredible in the capacity you, Have, chris you, know so

1856
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:48,000
Speaker 1: you played. Volleyball, obviously basketball is the sport that generates you,

1857
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:50,479
Speaker 1: know so much attention and eyeballs and revenue for that.

1858
01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:55,519
Speaker 1: Matter but and the role that you now, have which

1859
01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:59,599
Speaker 1: sport would you say is the one that you were

1860
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:02,680
Speaker 1: always aware of? It you saw it perhaps even as

1861
01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:05,160
Speaker 1: a softball. Player but now that you're in the role

1862
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:07,920
Speaker 1: that you're, in you look at the dedication of the

1863
01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:10,759
Speaker 1: athletes in that sport and you say to, Yourself, man

1864
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:15,680
Speaker 1: if the average fan realized the, commitment the, discipline and

1865
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:18,799
Speaker 1: the skill that it takes to participate in this, sport

1866
01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:22,840
Speaker 1: they would absolutely be. Amazed and it has been illuminating

1867
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:24,840
Speaker 1: to me as. Well which one jumps?

1868
01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:27,400
Speaker 10: Out, Wow, jake you're putting me on the. Spot it's

1869
01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:29,599
Speaker 10: like making me take a sick or nineteen.

1870
01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 8: Children name your.

1871
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:36,080
Speaker 1: Favorite, child you, KNOW i can tell You chris for my,

1872
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:39,640
Speaker 1: parents it's me just so you, know, RIGHT i do know.

1873
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:43,479
Speaker 1: That so no disrespect to the other. Sports but basically

1874
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:45,439
Speaker 1: What i'm getting at is what is the sport that

1875
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:48,000
Speaker 1: you look at and you, say, man those kids deserve

1876
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:49,240
Speaker 1: more attention than they.

1877
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:52,759
Speaker 10: Get you, KNOW i would probably say golf just because

1878
01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:55,920
Speaker 10: it's not a Sport i've one ever, played but the,

1879
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:59,720
Speaker 10: practice the, dedication and then just the time that goes

1880
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:02,759
Speaker 10: into sport has been eye opening over my sixteen years

1881
01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 10: here and just watching those athletes and how they compete

1882
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:07,400
Speaker 10: in that.

1883
01:42:07,479 --> 01:42:09,799
Speaker 1: Sport, see you, KNOW i didn't ask you your favorite

1884
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 1: school within the. Conference, now that would be, unfair, right

1885
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:15,640
Speaker 1: that would be. Unfair that would be. Unfair but you

1886
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:18,040
Speaker 1: get the, chance folks to See, Prdue Fort wayne AND

1887
01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:21,120
Speaker 1: Iu Indy sunday at the coliseum one o'clock on the

1888
01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 1: women's side of, things and then basically go refill the

1889
01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:28,719
Speaker 1: popcorn and come back because when that once that, happens

1890
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:31,200
Speaker 1: then The Green bay And Northern kentucky men's side of

1891
01:42:31,240 --> 01:42:35,040
Speaker 1: things at three point thirty and games continue from the

1892
01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:37,960
Speaker 1: second round to the semi finals to the championship which

1893
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:41,360
Speaker 1: will be taking place On march the, tenth As march starts,

1894
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 1: here and then the celebration is on and seeing who

1895
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:48,240
Speaker 1: is going to represent The Horizon league in THE ncaa. Tournament,

1896
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:50,439
Speaker 1: chris last QUESTION i would have for you in the

1897
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:53,280
Speaker 1: fact that AND i realize you have enjoyed your role

1898
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:56,479
Speaker 1: both as THE coo of the. League now is the interim?

1899
01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:59,600
Speaker 1: COMMISSIONER i mentioned there will be a new commissioner that

1900
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:02,920
Speaker 1: takes so over on Tax. Day Actually april fifteenth is

1901
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 1: When jill will take. Over you will stay then in

1902
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:07,320
Speaker 1: THE coo, Role is that?

1903
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:07,759
Speaker 6: Correct?

1904
01:43:08,479 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 10: Yes, okay not planning to go, anywhere.

1905
01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:14,800
Speaker 1: Yeh and so with that throughout all of, IT i

1906
01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:19,480
Speaker 1: guess if you were to tell people about The Horizon

1907
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:23,200
Speaker 1: league what they may not already, know and what you

1908
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 1: have learned perhaps about the league that you perhaps didn't

1909
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 1: even know in this time in this interim, role what

1910
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:31,639
Speaker 1: would it be to sell the? League?

1911
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:35,720
Speaker 10: YEAH i think the biggest thing is we have eleven incredible.

1912
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:41,640
Speaker 10: Institutions we sponsor nineteen amazing fourth and we want to

1913
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:44,880
Speaker 10: grow and develop student athletes for life that pour their

1914
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:49,480
Speaker 10: heart and soul into their, academics their, training and competing

1915
01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:51,640
Speaker 10: on the, court field or in the. Pool SO i

1916
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 10: think that's the biggest takeaway is that we've got student

1917
01:43:55,040 --> 01:44:00,280
Speaker 10: athletes competing across the sixth, state major city market that

1918
01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:02,519
Speaker 10: are really fun to watch in a lot of different.

1919
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:06,640
Speaker 1: SPORTS i insist on paying for The, barbasol because sponsorship

1920
01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:08,559
Speaker 1: is there for a. Reason there, is SO i have

1921
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:11,160
Speaker 1: no problem with. It it's you, know it's just a Great american,

1922
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:15,240
Speaker 1: product is what it. Is, Lastly, CHRIS i want TO

1923
01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:18,080
Speaker 1: i want to try my hand at my marketing. Mind

1924
01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:21,360
Speaker 1: are you? Ready i'm. Ready i'm going to give you

1925
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 1: an idea that just popped into this noggin of mine

1926
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:28,280
Speaker 1: while we've been. Talking AND i want you to feel

1927
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:30,720
Speaker 1: free to tell, Me, jake that was in your subconscious

1928
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:32,880
Speaker 1: because we've been using that for twenty. Years but thanks

1929
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:35,560
Speaker 1: for being late to the, party which is entirely. Possible,

1930
01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:42,720
Speaker 1: okay Because march starts. Here because THE Ncaa, tournament the

1931
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:45,439
Speaker 1: first team that will punch its, ticket if you, will

1932
01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:47,840
Speaker 1: from the men's and women's, side happens right here in

1933
01:44:47,880 --> 01:44:50,960
Speaker 1: the coliseum In. Indianapolis and The Horizon league is always

1934
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:54,640
Speaker 1: the first for. This Then i've come up with this,

1935
01:44:54,720 --> 01:45:00,240
Speaker 1: Slogan you're, Ready, Yes horizon where the sun rises not.

1936
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 1: Sets what do you? Think what do you?

1937
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:03,679
Speaker 4: THINK i love.

1938
01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:06,479
Speaker 10: It we really lean into The golden, hour so that

1939
01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 10: absolutely aligned with our.

1940
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:09,920
Speaker 1: Marketing you haven't used that, yet have?

1941
01:45:10,040 --> 01:45:10,920
Speaker 6: You we.

1942
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 10: Haven't you'd be the first to make it happen for, It.

1943
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:16,160
Speaker 1: Eddie eddie's, Shaking eddie is staring at the. Floor, Eddie

1944
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:18,840
Speaker 1: you're staring at your floor now now. LISTEN i trademarked

1945
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:21,040
Speaker 1: why Not, Indiana, eddie and you laughed at. Me and guess.

1946
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 1: What every DAY i go out and there's just more

1947
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:25,240
Speaker 1: checks rolling in to not left. You i'm not going

1948
01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:27,080
Speaker 1: to trademark this. One i'm giving it to The rise Of.

1949
01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:29,040
Speaker 1: Ling BUT i think It's. Chris it's a little bit of,

1950
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:29,599
Speaker 1: brilliant is it.

1951
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:31,360
Speaker 4: NOT i love.

1952
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:33,120
Speaker 10: It it really aligns with our brain, Recharge.

1953
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:33,800
Speaker 4: JACOBS i love.

1954
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:38,599
Speaker 1: It, okay there you, Go Horizon League championships. Again ticket

1955
01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:43,439
Speaker 1: information is Available Horizon league dot, com Slash Indie. CHRIS

1956
01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:46,000
Speaker 1: i love. IT i love having you guys right here In.

1957
01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:48,920
Speaker 1: Indianapolis it's a great, league and it's great, competition and

1958
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:51,360
Speaker 1: it's a great chance as well for those three thousand

1959
01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:54,920
Speaker 1: kids On anthem School day to watch enjoy all of,

1960
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 1: it and best of luck and success with the tournament

1961
01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:00,519
Speaker 1: and then the representation in THE ncaa big dance as.

1962
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:03,160
Speaker 10: Well Thanks, jake thanks so much for having me. ON

1963
01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:04,800
Speaker 10: i really appreciate it and look forward to having you

1964
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 10: guys out at the court to have a.

1965
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:09,080
Speaker 1: Coliseum that is indeed the case because the morning show

1966
01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:10,479
Speaker 1: will be out there coming up at the end of the.

1967
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:14,000
Speaker 1: Week Chris newman is the interim commissioner of The Horizon,

1968
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:17,720
Speaker 1: league and, yes in, Fact, James jeff And kevin will

1969
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 1: be out there coming up On friday morning and then

1970
01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:23,759
Speaker 1: again going into the weekend Because sunday is when the games,

1971
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:28,000
Speaker 1: arrived the second round of The Horizon league getting, Underway

1972
01:46:28,040 --> 01:46:30,960
Speaker 1: men's and women's standpoint on. Today you didn't like, That, Eddie.

1973
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:33,559
Speaker 2: Just it's Just.

1974
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:37,800
Speaker 1: Jake you don't think there's deep and be, Honest i'm

1975
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:39,720
Speaker 1: not going to be offended deep. Down did you not

1976
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:45,280
Speaker 1: think to yourself that's, good that's good. SOLID i think you're.

1977
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:48,320
Speaker 1: LYING i Looked, no just say you KNOW i looked.

1978
01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:51,760
Speaker 1: OVER i looked over and many not may not know.

1979
01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:55,040
Speaker 1: This eddie AND i are actually in separate. Rooms and believe.

1980
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:56,240
Speaker 2: You, ME su have to Smell jake's.

1981
01:46:56,280 --> 01:47:00,519
Speaker 1: Cologne some don't check about it, today very. Subtle that's

1982
01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:03,960
Speaker 1: What i'm wearing to, that are you? Really, yeah that's

1983
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:07,760
Speaker 1: a little bit, disturbing but we're in different rooms and

1984
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:09,559
Speaker 1: sometimes on the radio you can hear.

1985
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:10,599
Speaker 4: That but.

1986
01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 1: WHEN i said, THAT i looked up And eddie was

1987
01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:19,519
Speaker 1: complete face palmed with his pointer finger and his, thumb

1988
01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:23,880
Speaker 1: pinching the bridge of his, nose looking towards the floor

1989
01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:26,080
Speaker 1: and shaking his hand or shaking his head in a

1990
01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:31,240
Speaker 1: very slow fashion left to. Right, now why are you?

1991
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:33,559
Speaker 1: THINKING i, know why are you thinking to, Yourself. Jake

1992
01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:38,479
Speaker 1: Here's Chris. Newman she is an accomplished. Athlete she's the

1993
01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:42,440
Speaker 1: interim commissioner of The Horizon. League she's leading a conference

1994
01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:46,400
Speaker 1: that is right, here ten blocks away from. Us and

1995
01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:49,439
Speaker 1: you're embarrassing. Me that's how it felt with your.

1996
01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 2: Body, well it's not embarrassing. Me my name's not on the. Show.

1997
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:58,320
Speaker 1: OKAY i think deep down you know what they're doing right.

1998
01:47:58,360 --> 01:47:59,760
Speaker 1: Now i'll bet you right, now Prent.

1999
01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:03,400
Speaker 3: T really, Yeah i'm surprised you would share something like

2000
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 3: that with your marketing, wisdom knowing that you can profit

2001
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 3: on almost anything that comes into your.

2002
01:48:09,479 --> 01:48:13,880
Speaker 1: Brain, No i'm telling, You i'm giving like. That you know,

2003
01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:17,519
Speaker 1: That Shelle, Silverstein The Giving tree that was written actually about, me,

2004
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:21,400
Speaker 1: really just so you, know, okay it to where the

2005
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:26,240
Speaker 1: sidewalk ends right here at, me right, Yeah Alec. Pierce

2006
01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:28,360
Speaker 1: by the, way that is the big news of the

2007
01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:30,280
Speaker 1: day that we've been. Watching not that anything's going to

2008
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:32,320
Speaker 1: come out of that, today but it looks like there

2009
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:34,960
Speaker 1: might be some teams that are figuring out what they're

2010
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:37,800
Speaker 1: going to do with the receiver. Position buffalo signs or

2011
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:40,559
Speaker 1: makes a, TRADE i should, say FOR Dj, moore what

2012
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:43,160
Speaker 1: does that mean For? Chicago does that open things? Up

2013
01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:46,160
Speaker 1: or does that, mean as we talked, About romadunse becomes

2014
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:50,280
Speaker 1: a more profiled option For Caleb williams and therefore there

2015
01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:53,800
Speaker 1: is no need For. Pierce what Would appierce departure if

2016
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:56,920
Speaker 1: it came to that mean For Daniel. Jones we've gotten

2017
01:48:56,920 --> 01:49:00,000
Speaker 1: into all of. That purdue last night struggled At NORTHWEST

2018
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:02,280
Speaker 1: i got to. Win Brian nubert joined us earlier in

2019
01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:04,840
Speaker 1: the show to talk about the fact that He Brian,

2020
01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:08,120
Speaker 1: nubert who was very candid About, purdue didn't see that

2021
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:12,320
Speaker 1: as much of the sun setting as the sun, rising

2022
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:14,360
Speaker 1: because he's, like you know, what they found a way

2023
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:16,880
Speaker 1: to win late in that. GAME. Cj cox was great

2024
01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:20,120
Speaker 1: For purdue down the, stretch AND i Think newbert seemed

2025
01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:22,400
Speaker 1: like that was a good jolt or a lift for

2026
01:49:22,479 --> 01:49:25,679
Speaker 1: them heading in to The Big ten tournament.

2027
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:28,640
Speaker 3: Upcoming the QUESTION i have About Purdue jake is, like

2028
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:32,120
Speaker 3: we see these games on occasion where they Give Jack

2029
01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 3: bender opportunities And Jack bender has a good, game they

2030
01:49:35,680 --> 01:49:38,040
Speaker 3: or Sorry Omar meyer Against.

2031
01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:39,800
Speaker 2: Indiana then you HAVE. Cj cox last.

2032
01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:42,599
Speaker 3: Night it's, Like, okay why can't you give these guys

2033
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:46,000
Speaker 3: this ample of opportunities on a game to game, basis

2034
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:49,120
Speaker 3: because obviously that's the kind of skill set they, have

2035
01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:51,720
Speaker 3: is that these guys have the ability to knock down

2036
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:54,559
Speaker 3: some open. Shots but it just doesn't feel like they're

2037
01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:56,800
Speaker 3: getting the same opportunity from game to. Game and if

2038
01:49:56,800 --> 01:49:58,759
Speaker 3: that's the, case then why aren't.

2039
01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:01,360
Speaker 1: They, YEAH i think you could say the same For, indiana,

2040
01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:03,000
Speaker 1: RIGHT i, mean if you look At indiana and the

2041
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:04,840
Speaker 1: way they distribute their, MINUTES i, Mean Trent sisley had

2042
01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of time last Night Senior night For,

2043
01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:10,680
Speaker 1: Indiana Lamar wilkerson giving his mom an escalade, afterwards And

2044
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:13,920
Speaker 1: indiana a resounding win Over. Minnesota but that's kind of

2045
01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:17,639
Speaker 1: Been eddie some of the discussion around The hoosiers as

2046
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:20,479
Speaker 1: well of why are they not going deeper into their

2047
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:23,200
Speaker 1: arsenal over the course of the regular, season especially if

2048
01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:26,240
Speaker 1: you're going to need guys to give you minutes. Late you.

2049
01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:29,680
Speaker 1: Know those are the those are the challenges that come with.

2050
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:32,200
Speaker 1: That indiana a resounding win last, night and then The

2051
01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:34,280
Speaker 1: pacers losing and resounding fashion to The.

2052
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:37,360
Speaker 3: Clippers Ben matheren looked, good, Right Sam alexis looked good

2053
01:50:37,400 --> 01:50:39,840
Speaker 3: last night for The. Hoosiers had a season high twenty three.

2054
01:50:39,880 --> 01:50:43,920
Speaker 3: Points and, yeah that was a Good Benedict mathern performance last.

2055
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 3: Night twenty three. Points, now most of, THAT i feel

2056
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:49,280
Speaker 3: like came in the latter part of the third, quarter

2057
01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:50,920
Speaker 3: in the start of the fourth, quarter when the game

2058
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:54,280
Speaker 3: was well, decided and he had you, know six, seven eight,

2059
01:50:54,280 --> 01:50:56,320
Speaker 3: REBOUNDS i can't remember the exact, number and then a

2060
01:50:56,360 --> 01:50:56,840
Speaker 3: handful of.

2061
01:50:56,840 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 1: Assists he had an overall really good game last night

2062
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:02,559
Speaker 1: and again said all the right. THINGS i mean, Afterwards, hey,

2063
01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:04,519
Speaker 1: listen no hard. FEELINGS i had a great time In.

2064
01:51:04,520 --> 01:51:06,320
Speaker 1: Indiana it's fun to go out and see the guys

2065
01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:09,320
Speaker 1: and play well against. Him i'm, paraphrasing but, yeah you,

2066
01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:12,280
Speaker 1: know he, SAID i don't think that there's like some

2067
01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:14,040
Speaker 1: sort of ill will. There it's What i'm getting.

2068
01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:17,040
Speaker 3: AT i don't, Either and it was. Funny Tony east

2069
01:51:17,080 --> 01:51:20,880
Speaker 3: had a video of the post game availability With Ben

2070
01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:23,800
Speaker 3: matheren in The clippers locker, room and he asked. Him he, goes,

2071
01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:25,400
Speaker 3: hey how did it feel to be? Trading he, goes

2072
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:27,719
Speaker 3: you want the pr answer or you want the real? Answer,

2073
01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:30,080
Speaker 3: Right it's, like, oh come, On, ben just let it.

2074
01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:36,479
Speaker 3: Out but he you, know even with, THAT i thought

2075
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:40,080
Speaker 3: he was pretty diplomatic about it and. APPRECIATIVE i Thought

2076
01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:42,599
Speaker 3: Isaiah jackson even looked good last night for The clippers,

2077
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:45,880
Speaker 3: too like he hadn't played.

2078
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:48,400
Speaker 1: Much he had what ten and, five ten and, Six

2079
01:51:48,439 --> 01:51:51,400
Speaker 1: i'm like a handful of. Blocks he looked good last.

2080
01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:53,559
Speaker 1: NIGHT i always Liked Isaiah. JACKSON i didn't realize this.

2081
01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:55,640
Speaker 1: ONE i looked it. Up he's listed now as like

2082
01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:57,040
Speaker 1: six eight and a, half.

2083
01:51:57,400 --> 01:51:59,680
Speaker 2: Six eight and a. Half that's very, specific.

2084
01:51:59,680 --> 01:52:02,640
Speaker 1: Honest And i'm, like MAYBE i was looking at what

2085
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:05,639
Speaker 1: like HIS nba combined things said, order because he's always

2086
01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:07,840
Speaker 1: been listed as what six nine to sixty ten played

2087
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:11,920
Speaker 1: above it before the. Injury but then you, know since the,

2088
01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:15,599
Speaker 1: injury just a lot of uncertainty With Isaiah. Jackson the

2089
01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:17,479
Speaker 1: other big story that, happened like.

2090
01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:19,559
Speaker 3: Somebody SAID i need to trademark. SOMETHING i just said,

2091
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:21,040
Speaker 3: earlier it's Just.

2092
01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:21,439
Speaker 2: Jake.

2093
01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:25,360
Speaker 1: Yeah the only problem is like outside of like three,

2094
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:26,760
Speaker 1: people nobody would want to buy.

2095
01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:29,320
Speaker 2: That turn your name into a verb.

2096
01:52:29,439 --> 01:52:36,000
Speaker 1: Somehow that's right at the, age what's That.

2097
01:52:36,040 --> 01:52:37,880
Speaker 2: Instead of living Like, larry it's living Like.

2098
01:52:37,960 --> 01:52:42,080
Speaker 1: Ja Lou holtz passed away yesterday at the age of eighty.

2099
01:52:42,160 --> 01:52:46,519
Speaker 1: Nine iconic coach At Notre, dame, obviously and one THAT

2100
01:52:46,720 --> 01:52:53,200
Speaker 1: i think one of the true things about him that

2101
01:52:53,880 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 1: is part of his legacy is that to coach at

2102
01:52:57,200 --> 01:52:59,640
Speaker 1: a school Like Notre, dame but then also carry the

2103
01:52:59,760 --> 01:53:04,200
Speaker 1: vertues of the values and the morality of that university

2104
01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:07,280
Speaker 1: in your everyday life are things that Lou HOLTZ i think.

2105
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:11,760
Speaker 1: Did he had a career that was not void of

2106
01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:14,640
Speaker 1: controversy in the places that he went in terms of

2107
01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:23,200
Speaker 1: allegations of recruiting infractions At, Arkansas Notre, Dame, minnesota but

2108
01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:26,559
Speaker 1: a lot of those were in fractions that now would

2109
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:28,559
Speaker 1: be considered, legal but they were not at the. Time

2110
01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:34,040
Speaker 1: but a phenomenal football, coach AND i mentioned. Earlier WHEN

2111
01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:36,720
Speaker 1: i heard the news that Lou holtz had, passed the

2112
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:38,840
Speaker 1: first PERSON i reached out to Was Derek, may's who

2113
01:53:38,920 --> 01:53:42,000
Speaker 1: had gone to school with and who still works on

2114
01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:47,439
Speaker 1: the foundation for Lou holtz and is you, know an

2115
01:53:47,479 --> 01:53:50,679
Speaker 1: integral part still of The Notre dame. Family And Derek

2116
01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:52,519
Speaker 1: may simply, SAID i Don't, JAKE i don't know THAT

2117
01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:53,880
Speaker 1: i can do. IT i don't know THAT i can come.

2118
01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:58,000
Speaker 1: On AND i think that that speaks volumes about what

2119
01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:01,360
Speaker 1: Lou holtz means to his former. Players another Former colt

2120
01:54:01,400 --> 01:54:03,559
Speaker 1: that was An All american For Lou holtz Is Jeff,

2121
01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:05,880
Speaker 1: burris and we're going to try to track him. Down

2122
01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:10,280
Speaker 1: next Lou holtz passing away at the age of eighty,

2123
01:54:10,360 --> 01:54:12,240
Speaker 1: nine we're going to try to track Down Jeff, burriss

2124
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:16,519
Speaker 1: who of course played for The, colts was An All

2125
01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:22,040
Speaker 1: american At Notre dame under Lou, holtz AND i messaged

2126
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:25,200
Speaker 1: him yesterday and to see if he could come. On

2127
01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:29,160
Speaker 1: but he's traveling as, well and that always makes things

2128
01:54:29,560 --> 01:54:34,160
Speaker 1: a bit of a. Complication so we will see if

2129
01:54:34,680 --> 01:54:36,720
Speaker 1: we can track Down Jeff. Burriss in just a MOMENT

2130
01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:40,280
Speaker 1: i mentioned earlier with Lou, holtz one of the things

2131
01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:47,360
Speaker 1: that jumps out at me about his career is the

2132
01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:52,920
Speaker 1: fact that you know he was At william And mary

2133
01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:59,200
Speaker 1: as an. Assistant he went from there to a number

2134
01:54:59,200 --> 01:55:03,400
Speaker 1: of different places as an Assistant, Connecticut Ohio, state and

2135
01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:05,400
Speaker 1: then he ended up back At william And mary as

2136
01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:08,280
Speaker 1: a head, coach had, success went to The Tangerine bowl

2137
01:55:09,760 --> 01:55:13,720
Speaker 1: that led him to the, OPPORTUNITY i, believe AND i

2138
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:17,520
Speaker 1: always forget which, order BUT i believe it Was. Arkansas

2139
01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:20,000
Speaker 1: it was Either arkansas and Then minnesota or vice. Versa

2140
01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:23,960
Speaker 1: but he had within his contract what was called The

2141
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:27,080
Speaker 1: Notre dame, clause meaning that if he were to get

2142
01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:30,680
Speaker 1: the opportunity to coach At Notre, dame that that opportunity

2143
01:55:30,720 --> 01:55:33,120
Speaker 1: would be granted to him and ultimately that would come to.

2144
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:40,000
Speaker 1: Fruition and he had turned around several programs by the

2145
01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:41,960
Speaker 1: time he arrived At Notre. Dame BUT i don't know

2146
01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:46,760
Speaker 1: when you are coaching At Notre dame and you're Replacing Jerry,

2147
01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:50,440
Speaker 1: faust who. KNOW i Know Jerry faust is one that

2148
01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:54,400
Speaker 1: people wanted or hoped for better results From Jerry. Faust

2149
01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:58,480
Speaker 1: so maybe that if you will alleviate some of the.

2150
01:55:58,520 --> 01:56:03,560
Speaker 1: Pressure but the reality is the reality is that there

2151
01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:09,000
Speaker 1: is within the coaching ranks at A Notre. Dame even

2152
01:56:09,240 --> 01:56:12,760
Speaker 1: like the non pressure At Notre dame is ten times

2153
01:56:12,760 --> 01:56:19,640
Speaker 1: greater than the pressure at other. Places but in between

2154
01:56:20,280 --> 01:56:23,360
Speaker 1: those coaching stops from a collegiate, standpoint there was a

2155
01:56:23,400 --> 01:56:28,200
Speaker 1: one year stint with The New York. Jets and one

2156
01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:30,760
Speaker 1: of the things About Lou holtz THAT i have always

2157
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:35,200
Speaker 1: respected WAS i feel like the time with The New

2158
01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:42,360
Speaker 1: York jets was actually the time that more influenced what

2159
01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:44,680
Speaker 1: he became as a coach and who he became as

2160
01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:51,040
Speaker 1: a coach because he failed In New york and in,

2161
01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:58,640
Speaker 1: coaching failure is obviously not always taken, easily but to

2162
01:56:58,720 --> 01:57:03,960
Speaker 1: fail as a coach and then rebound from, that AND

2163
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:06,320
Speaker 1: i mean he didn't just fail on the. Field he

2164
01:57:06,360 --> 01:57:09,880
Speaker 1: also he came up with kind of a catchy or

2165
01:57:09,880 --> 01:57:16,840
Speaker 1: a cheesy like little theme song for The, jets and

2166
01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:19,160
Speaker 1: it didn't go over. Well he had an Aging Joe

2167
01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:25,200
Speaker 1: namath and even from that he was able to basically

2168
01:57:25,360 --> 01:57:28,160
Speaker 1: immediately realize that it was not going in the way

2169
01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:32,000
Speaker 1: that he wanted it to. Go and So holtz deviated

2170
01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:35,720
Speaker 1: from that and went back into, college and then by

2171
01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:40,600
Speaker 1: the time he landed At Notre, dame became one, of

2172
01:57:40,720 --> 01:57:44,640
Speaker 1: if not the most successful coaches in certainly at the

2173
01:57:44,680 --> 01:57:47,360
Speaker 1: time the most successful because he climbed the top of

2174
01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:49,880
Speaker 1: the mountain and winning a national championship Still Notre dame's.

2175
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:57,120
Speaker 1: Last you, KNOW i have jokingly poked fun At Notre

2176
01:57:57,200 --> 01:58:02,919
Speaker 1: dame fans for years about the clip against Rocket ismail

2177
01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:08,480
Speaker 1: and that game and Against, colorado and, YEAH i mean

2178
01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:12,000
Speaker 1: that probably was a it was the right, call but

2179
01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:13,840
Speaker 1: in that moment do you make an, YEAH i don't

2180
01:58:13,880 --> 01:58:17,120
Speaker 1: know about, that so probably should have been a two time.

2181
01:58:17,200 --> 01:58:20,200
Speaker 1: Champion and still great moments after. THAT i mean The

2182
01:58:20,240 --> 01:58:24,440
Speaker 1: Florida state game in ninety. Three, clearly in that eighty

2183
01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:29,880
Speaker 1: eight season there were in you, know just numerous glorious

2184
01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:33,760
Speaker 1: moments For Notre dame. Fans But Notre dame is always

2185
01:58:33,760 --> 01:58:37,800
Speaker 1: a tricky one because it's a national brand and from

2186
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:40,480
Speaker 1: a local, standpoint you, know Is Notre dame and our

2187
01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:45,560
Speaker 1: Lou holtz local, TEAMS i don't know about, that but

2188
01:58:45,600 --> 01:58:48,320
Speaker 1: they certain because of the fact that they are a national.

2189
01:58:48,360 --> 01:58:50,520
Speaker 1: Brand AND i know that there are a lot Of

2190
01:58:50,520 --> 01:58:52,880
Speaker 1: Notre dame fans In indianapolis because of the fact that

2191
01:58:52,920 --> 01:58:55,640
Speaker 1: the university sits Within. INDIANA i get, that but it's

2192
01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:58,360
Speaker 1: outside our viewing. Audience it's always amazing to me when

2193
01:58:58,360 --> 01:59:01,760
Speaker 1: the number of radio stations OR tv stations call and they, say,

2194
01:59:01,960 --> 01:59:03,640
Speaker 1: hey can we talk to whoever you guys have that

2195
01:59:03,680 --> 01:59:05,880
Speaker 1: Covers Notre. Dame And i'm, like, well nobody really goes

2196
01:59:05,960 --> 01:59:09,120
Speaker 1: up and covers it except for when in the big game.

2197
01:59:09,200 --> 01:59:12,240
Speaker 1: Moments but What i'm getting, at long winded here is

2198
01:59:12,280 --> 01:59:14,960
Speaker 1: the fact That Lou holtz was a coach that was

2199
01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:19,640
Speaker 1: not void of. Controversy but some of that controversy comes

2200
01:59:19,680 --> 01:59:24,200
Speaker 1: from the fact of great. Success and when you have great,

2201
01:59:24,240 --> 01:59:28,520
Speaker 1: success you put yourself, there you, know Like Tim cendrick

2202
01:59:28,520 --> 01:59:30,720
Speaker 1: said the other, day he at the top of the

2203
01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:36,280
Speaker 1: totem pole has the hardest. Fall and when Lou holtz

2204
01:59:36,440 --> 01:59:38,720
Speaker 1: was doing what he was doing With Notre, dame you're

2205
01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:41,840
Speaker 1: at a school that is already, polarizing and therefore people

2206
01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:44,520
Speaker 1: are going to bring up some of those things in

2207
01:59:44,600 --> 01:59:49,480
Speaker 1: terms of the, indiscretions of the allegations of you, know

2208
01:59:50,320 --> 01:59:55,440
Speaker 1: non following the rules Of minnesota and whatever. Else but

2209
01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:59,520
Speaker 1: between the, lines his teams were, disciplined his teams were,

2210
01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:03,360
Speaker 1: tough and his teams were. Fearless and for those of

2211
02:00:03,440 --> 02:00:06,600
Speaker 1: us that didn't Like Notre, dame it only further added

2212
02:00:07,160 --> 02:00:12,880
Speaker 1: to probably the rivalry thereof because it further added salt

2213
02:00:12,880 --> 02:00:14,800
Speaker 1: in the wound because you didn't Like Notre, dame but

2214
02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:19,000
Speaker 1: yet they were consistently and regularly, winning and in doing.

2215
02:00:19,040 --> 02:00:23,440
Speaker 1: That one of the things About holts that jumps out

2216
02:00:23,440 --> 02:00:28,520
Speaker 1: at me IS i remember after his coaching days were

2217
02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:33,400
Speaker 1: completed and he was in broadcasting on a different radio

2218
02:00:33,400 --> 02:00:35,480
Speaker 1: show THAT i was. Doing he was coming To indianapolis

2219
02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:40,960
Speaker 1: to be a keynote speaker for a, fundraiser and we got,

2220
02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:42,920
Speaker 1: pitched you, know, hey would you like to have On Lou? Holtz,

2221
02:00:43,520 --> 02:00:46,920
Speaker 1: sure so we had them. On who wouldn't Interview Lou

2222
02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:50,680
Speaker 1: holtz if you're doing a sports talk radio? Show so

2223
02:00:50,720 --> 02:00:54,400
Speaker 1: we had On Lou holtz AND i asked a, question

2224
02:00:54,600 --> 02:00:59,320
Speaker 1: and very quickly after answering the, question he then pivoted

2225
02:00:59,800 --> 02:01:06,840
Speaker 1: in to the core mission and objective of the organization

2226
02:01:07,640 --> 02:01:09,920
Speaker 1: to whom he was set to speak as a keynote

2227
02:01:09,960 --> 02:01:12,560
Speaker 1: speaker In, indianapolis and thus why he was coming on the.

2228
02:01:12,640 --> 02:01:19,840
Speaker 1: Radio AND i remember, thinking shame on, Him shame on

2229
02:01:19,960 --> 02:01:25,760
Speaker 1: him for utilizing the sports platform to pivot into a

2230
02:01:25,880 --> 02:01:32,560
Speaker 1: message that theologically aligns with. Him and after the, FACT

2231
02:01:32,720 --> 02:01:38,040
Speaker 1: i then, realized, actually it's shame on. Me shame on.

2232
02:01:38,200 --> 02:01:42,360
Speaker 1: Me for not having the professionalism to understand that two

2233
02:01:42,440 --> 02:01:47,320
Speaker 1: people football is sometimes above and beyond what takes place

2234
02:01:47,400 --> 02:01:49,760
Speaker 1: in the, game or breaking down the x's and o's

2235
02:01:49,800 --> 02:01:52,960
Speaker 1: of a, score but rather it is a vehicle to

2236
02:01:53,080 --> 02:01:57,240
Speaker 1: allow someone to spread the message or the gospel of

2237
02:01:57,280 --> 02:02:02,800
Speaker 1: what is very close and endearing to, them and taking

2238
02:02:02,840 --> 02:02:06,080
Speaker 1: advantage of the celebrity that comes with, it to let

2239
02:02:06,120 --> 02:02:10,160
Speaker 1: people know the core principles and value in pillar of

2240
02:02:10,200 --> 02:02:14,520
Speaker 1: who they are theologically and. Fundamentally and it was an

2241
02:02:14,680 --> 02:02:17,520
Speaker 1: error on my behalf to not recognize that, that at

2242
02:02:17,560 --> 02:02:23,200
Speaker 1: its core is What Lou holtz. Valued AND i think

2243
02:02:23,320 --> 02:02:28,440
Speaker 1: it speaks volumes that different. Players and my understanding is

2244
02:02:28,480 --> 02:02:31,200
Speaker 1: Jeff rickard had a similar experience in reaching out to

2245
02:02:31,240 --> 02:02:34,640
Speaker 1: a former player he knows of saying can you come

2246
02:02:34,680 --> 02:02:38,280
Speaker 1: on to help us Tribute Lou holtz and having players,

2247
02:02:38,320 --> 02:02:40,040
Speaker 1: SAY i just don't know That i'm ready to do

2248
02:02:40,080 --> 02:02:42,200
Speaker 1: that just. Yet AND i think a lot of us

2249
02:02:42,200 --> 02:02:48,760
Speaker 1: have had, bosses, coaches, teachers, friends, companions whatever it may,

2250
02:02:48,800 --> 02:02:52,280
Speaker 1: be that while they are very close to us, emotionally

2251
02:02:52,640 --> 02:02:55,080
Speaker 1: some thirty years after the, fact you can speak about

2252
02:02:55,080 --> 02:02:58,800
Speaker 1: it without all of that emotion still being as ubiquitous

2253
02:02:58,840 --> 02:03:01,960
Speaker 1: within your, soul and in the case Of Lou, holtz

2254
02:03:02,000 --> 02:03:04,600
Speaker 1: clearly that wasn't the. Case AND i think that speaks

2255
02:03:04,640 --> 02:03:07,720
Speaker 1: not only to the man in character that he, was

2256
02:03:08,520 --> 02:03:13,280
Speaker 1: but in addition to, that the value that was instilled

2257
02:03:13,360 --> 02:03:19,600
Speaker 1: within his players that they still carry to this. Day, Yes.

2258
02:03:19,720 --> 02:03:22,760
Speaker 1: Eddie Jeff burris is one of, those by the, way

2259
02:03:22,880 --> 02:03:24,680
Speaker 1: joins us now on the. Program he was An All

2260
02:03:24,720 --> 02:03:27,880
Speaker 1: american At Notre dame Under Lou. Holtz his long career

2261
02:03:27,920 --> 02:03:30,840
Speaker 1: in football brought him To, indianapolis and he joins on

2262
02:03:31,040 --> 02:03:34,080
Speaker 1: The Java House Colbrew coffee guest. Line. Jeff first, OFF

2263
02:03:34,120 --> 02:03:36,320
Speaker 1: i know you got a hectic schedule. TODAY i certainly

2264
02:03:36,400 --> 02:03:40,680
Speaker 1: appreciate the time in what is not the, most you,

2265
02:03:40,720 --> 02:03:42,640
Speaker 1: know happiest of. Circumstances but how are.

2266
02:03:42,680 --> 02:03:47,000
Speaker 9: You i'm doing, Well, jake and my apologies for being

2267
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:50,280
Speaker 9: a lowe, behind and thank you so much for having.

2268
02:03:50,000 --> 02:03:52,600
Speaker 1: Me well AND i appreciate that AND i understand, it

2269
02:03:52,640 --> 02:03:56,600
Speaker 1: AND i just wanted to give, You, jeff the opportunity to.

2270
02:03:56,720 --> 02:03:59,120
Speaker 1: Share you, KNOW i think we all Know Lou holtz the.

2271
02:03:59,200 --> 02:04:02,080
Speaker 1: Coach we can see the wins and, losses BUT i

2272
02:04:02,120 --> 02:04:04,840
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you, this what was your first encounter

2273
02:04:05,120 --> 02:04:07,080
Speaker 1: with him when you were a player living In South

2274
02:04:07,080 --> 02:04:10,160
Speaker 1: carolina And Notre dame And Lou holtz come. Calling what

2275
02:04:10,240 --> 02:04:13,400
Speaker 1: was it About Lou holtz that immediately jumped.

2276
02:04:13,080 --> 02:04:17,600
Speaker 9: Down, well my, first my first encounter.

2277
02:04:17,360 --> 02:04:18,320
Speaker 6: Was him, visiting.

2278
02:04:19,120 --> 02:04:23,400
Speaker 9: Visiting, well obviously having official, visits you have a chance

2279
02:04:23,480 --> 02:04:25,880
Speaker 9: to really you go and you're on your official, visits you.

2280
02:04:25,880 --> 02:04:26,840
Speaker 6: Sit down and talk to.

2281
02:04:26,920 --> 02:04:31,920
Speaker 9: Him but my post my post official visit him coming

2282
02:04:31,960 --> 02:04:36,080
Speaker 9: to my, home and it was basically him walking in

2283
02:04:36,120 --> 02:04:40,000
Speaker 9: that door and having the conversation and being the man

2284
02:04:40,080 --> 02:04:44,360
Speaker 9: he is and was and all the. Above AND i

2285
02:04:44,400 --> 02:04:46,840
Speaker 9: mean there was no WAY i wasn't going to not to.

2286
02:04:46,920 --> 02:04:49,240
Speaker 9: Day but when my mom sat down and he interacted

2287
02:04:49,280 --> 02:04:52,560
Speaker 9: with her and we had the, conversation just THE.

2288
02:04:54,160 --> 02:04:56,320
Speaker 6: I can't put it in the words how much one

2289
02:04:56,440 --> 02:04:57,040
Speaker 6: he means to.

2290
02:04:57,080 --> 02:05:00,320
Speaker 9: Me he's molded me into the MAN i am and

2291
02:05:00,400 --> 02:05:05,680
Speaker 9: just helped me just was able to navigate through life

2292
02:05:06,360 --> 02:05:11,040
Speaker 9: through difficult times whether and kept things in perspective. Always

2293
02:05:11,080 --> 02:05:15,520
Speaker 9: but that that first that first meeting of him being

2294
02:05:15,520 --> 02:05:17,800
Speaker 9: able to meet my mom was the most important thing

2295
02:05:17,840 --> 02:05:20,720
Speaker 9: because she didn't go my official. Visit but when he

2296
02:05:20,760 --> 02:05:23,040
Speaker 9: walked into my to our house and sat down on

2297
02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:26,800
Speaker 9: the couch and said basically said to, HER i promise, You.

2298
02:05:26,800 --> 02:05:27,600
Speaker 6: I'll take care of your.

2299
02:05:27,640 --> 02:05:32,800
Speaker 9: Son and and he meant every single word and.

2300
02:05:31,960 --> 02:05:34,720
Speaker 6: That changed her life and that changed. Mind and, uh

2301
02:05:34,800 --> 02:05:35,080
Speaker 6: AND i.

2302
02:05:35,080 --> 02:05:39,800
Speaker 9: COULD i can't say what that means to the boardment

2303
02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:43,080
Speaker 9: means to me and my family and, uh just The

2304
02:05:43,160 --> 02:05:46,280
Speaker 9: wholt's family as a. Whole, uh just got in direct

2305
02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:48,120
Speaker 9: of my life to to WHO i am.

2306
02:05:48,160 --> 02:05:53,440
Speaker 1: Today what point in your, Life Jeff, burris did you

2307
02:05:53,560 --> 02:05:56,480
Speaker 1: finally realized that he had upheld his end of the

2308
02:05:56,560 --> 02:05:58,200
Speaker 1: bargain on looking after.

2309
02:05:58,280 --> 02:06:01,839
Speaker 4: You you, Know, jake that's an interesting.

2310
02:06:01,920 --> 02:06:02,560
Speaker 6: Question so.

2311
02:06:04,280 --> 02:06:07,680
Speaker 9: He AND i had some a lot of memorable moments

2312
02:06:07,400 --> 02:06:12,080
Speaker 9: in my life and a couple At Notre dame that

2313
02:06:12,200 --> 02:06:16,160
Speaker 9: most people didn't, realize and it was personal conversations with

2314
02:06:16,280 --> 02:06:19,840
Speaker 9: he AND, i and this is HOW i KNEW i

2315
02:06:20,400 --> 02:06:23,520
Speaker 9: was involved with someone that truly cared about me and

2316
02:06:23,680 --> 02:06:28,200
Speaker 9: about the young. Man so we were going into a

2317
02:06:28,720 --> 02:06:32,920
Speaker 9: game and we're, LITERALLY i we hadn't talked about it

2318
02:06:32,920 --> 02:06:37,000
Speaker 9: the week before. Anything we're going into a game and

2319
02:06:37,040 --> 02:06:37,760
Speaker 9: he came up to.

2320
02:06:37,800 --> 02:06:40,160
Speaker 6: Me he's, like, okay so here's the, deal.

2321
02:06:41,120 --> 02:06:44,840
Speaker 9: Says you've scored a touchdown this way this, way this,

2322
02:06:44,880 --> 02:06:49,600
Speaker 9: way this, way all. Right SO i had rushing catching

2323
02:06:51,080 --> 02:06:55,080
Speaker 9: and so we went into that game and he, said

2324
02:06:55,360 --> 02:06:58,000
Speaker 9: here's What i'm gonna. Do i'm gonna put you back

2325
02:06:58,040 --> 02:07:02,720
Speaker 9: at the starting starring kickers today BECAUSE i can only

2326
02:07:02,760 --> 02:07:05,680
Speaker 9: control so many of those. Ways now it's up to

2327
02:07:05,720 --> 02:07:07,360
Speaker 9: you to go out and go perform and do what

2328
02:07:07,400 --> 02:07:10,880
Speaker 9: you're capable of. Doing so as a, coach how many

2329
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:15,080
Speaker 9: how many coaches really care enough about that person and

2330
02:07:15,120 --> 02:07:16,960
Speaker 9: that player to sit there and try to put him

2331
02:07:16,960 --> 02:07:20,840
Speaker 9: in every possible scenario because he wanted me to be

2332
02:07:20,920 --> 02:07:24,640
Speaker 9: a have a legacy At Notre. Dame it wasn't about

2333
02:07:25,360 --> 02:07:27,200
Speaker 9: and ALL i was thinking about is doesn't make sure

2334
02:07:27,240 --> 02:07:27,600
Speaker 9: we win the.

2335
02:07:27,640 --> 02:07:28,720
Speaker 6: Game but he.

2336
02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:31,560
Speaker 9: Cares so much about me as a person because he

2337
02:07:31,640 --> 02:07:35,520
Speaker 9: wanted me to have a shrewd legacy at the University's Notre.

2338
02:07:35,600 --> 02:07:40,560
Speaker 9: Dame and that's just. One we were sitting AT byu

2339
02:07:40,600 --> 02:07:42,280
Speaker 9: AND i can give you the exact. Time we're out

2340
02:07:42,320 --> 02:07:45,360
Speaker 9: before the game and we're throwing footballs around and he

2341
02:07:45,480 --> 02:07:48,120
Speaker 9: comes over to me and he's, like, MAN i should

2342
02:07:48,160 --> 02:07:50,360
Speaker 9: have made your. Quarterback NOW i can't throw it, out

2343
02:07:50,520 --> 02:07:52,280
Speaker 9: but he's in his, mind he's, LIKE i.

2344
02:07:52,240 --> 02:07:52,840
Speaker 6: Should have major a.

2345
02:07:52,960 --> 02:07:56,400
Speaker 9: Quarterback but that's the type of relationship he AND i

2346
02:07:56,560 --> 02:08:00,600
Speaker 9: had that you, know he impacted it there so many

2347
02:08:00,600 --> 02:08:03,480
Speaker 9: ways THAT i just don't have enough words.

2348
02:08:03,240 --> 02:08:06,760
Speaker 1: To, Explain, jeff one of the things That i'd, mentioned

2349
02:08:06,960 --> 02:08:09,600
Speaker 1: and MAYBE i was over, analytical BUT i wanted you

2350
02:08:09,640 --> 02:08:13,120
Speaker 1: to add to, This Jeff, burros my. Guest Low holtz

2351
02:08:13,160 --> 02:08:16,040
Speaker 1: did have one time in his career with The New

2352
02:08:16,120 --> 02:08:18,640
Speaker 1: York jets where he. Failed he did not have a

2353
02:08:18,640 --> 02:08:20,560
Speaker 1: good tenure In New, york and he Left New york

2354
02:08:20,560 --> 02:08:23,960
Speaker 1: and he got back into college and had success everywhere he.

2355
02:08:24,040 --> 02:08:27,400
Speaker 1: Went did he ever talk about or was there in

2356
02:08:27,520 --> 02:08:32,560
Speaker 1: importance in seeing the value in learning and improving from.

2357
02:08:32,600 --> 02:08:38,440
Speaker 9: Failure he always talked about. That he talked to us

2358
02:08:38,440 --> 02:08:41,400
Speaker 9: about the situation and we kind of. Do in his,

2359
02:08:41,520 --> 02:08:45,800
Speaker 9: mind he didn't necessarily. Fail it wasn't for. Him it

2360
02:08:45,840 --> 02:08:48,120
Speaker 9: wasn't a good. Thing there's things in life there's just

2361
02:08:48,120 --> 02:08:52,040
Speaker 9: not good fits for. Us and what he is is

2362
02:08:52,400 --> 02:08:55,280
Speaker 9: what he is is beyond the motivational aspect of. It

2363
02:08:55,440 --> 02:08:59,960
Speaker 9: he's a leader of, men and, yes being at The

2364
02:09:00,040 --> 02:09:02,720
Speaker 9: New York jets would have been you, know, obviously whatever

2365
02:09:02,760 --> 02:09:05,160
Speaker 9: we want to, say what is the minute is.

2366
02:09:05,320 --> 02:09:07,800
Speaker 6: Legacy, NO i don't think he needed. It he is

2367
02:09:07,880 --> 02:09:09,880
Speaker 6: or he, is AND I i love.

2368
02:09:09,800 --> 02:09:13,120
Speaker 8: Him for for for, That but that.

2369
02:09:13,080 --> 02:09:16,560
Speaker 9: Moment gave him an opportunity to teach us no matter

2370
02:09:16,600 --> 02:09:21,800
Speaker 9: what the situation, is whether whatever situation you're he taught

2371
02:09:21,880 --> 02:09:23,640
Speaker 9: us about, life and he talked about. It and and

2372
02:09:23,960 --> 02:09:26,800
Speaker 9: yes that that did he want to be successful without a.

2373
02:09:26,840 --> 02:09:29,920
Speaker 9: Doubt did it bother, Him yes they, Did but for

2374
02:09:29,920 --> 02:09:32,800
Speaker 9: for for, him that gave him a coaching moment for

2375
02:09:32,960 --> 02:09:35,800
Speaker 9: us as players to understand that no matter what life

2376
02:09:35,800 --> 02:09:39,720
Speaker 9: has to, offer you tie your. Shoes you wake up

2377
02:09:39,760 --> 02:09:42,440
Speaker 9: every morning and you go commit to whatever you want to.

2378
02:09:42,480 --> 02:09:44,760
Speaker 9: Do and you got to make sure that whatever the

2379
02:09:44,840 --> 02:09:46,840
Speaker 9: commitment you, make that it's.

2380
02:09:46,720 --> 02:09:47,640
Speaker 6: The right one for.

2381
02:09:47,760 --> 02:09:51,560
Speaker 9: You and and that's what we learned from him from

2382
02:09:51,560 --> 02:09:54,480
Speaker 9: from that. Situation and and that just wasn't in the

2383
02:09:54,520 --> 02:09:55,840
Speaker 9: right situation for him at the.

2384
02:09:55,880 --> 02:09:58,600
Speaker 1: Time, Uh, JEFF i know that your coaching career has been.

2385
02:09:58,680 --> 02:10:00,680
Speaker 1: Vast you've been to a number of different, places most

2386
02:10:00,680 --> 02:10:03,640
Speaker 1: recently The New York. Giants they've had obviously a coaching change.

2387
02:10:03,640 --> 02:10:07,040
Speaker 1: There my apologies for asking, this are you still involved

2388
02:10:07,080 --> 02:10:09,200
Speaker 1: in coaching or still looking to extend? That and my

2389
02:10:09,280 --> 02:10:10,480
Speaker 1: apologies for not knowing that.

2390
02:10:10,560 --> 02:10:14,680
Speaker 6: Answer oh, no no worries right, Now, jake right now.

2391
02:10:14,520 --> 02:10:18,680
Speaker 9: We Were i'm In oklahoma with my Wife. Lisa we

2392
02:10:19,120 --> 02:10:23,800
Speaker 9: have opened a brain and imaging center and we're focused

2393
02:10:23,840 --> 02:10:30,040
Speaker 9: on the wellness of young young student athletes for patients

2394
02:10:30,080 --> 02:10:33,680
Speaker 9: and all we and we are centers is a true

2395
02:10:34,080 --> 02:10:37,640
Speaker 9: it's a true diagnosis center that allows you have some

2396
02:10:37,720 --> 02:10:40,880
Speaker 9: awareness of what's going on. Prell most people don't understand

2397
02:10:40,880 --> 02:10:44,160
Speaker 9: there's a. Baseline what most people do, know but when

2398
02:10:44,600 --> 02:10:47,840
Speaker 9: concussions are so involved in what we're doing, nowadays and

2399
02:10:48,600 --> 02:10:51,080
Speaker 9: most people don't want to have a, baseline and our

2400
02:10:51,560 --> 02:10:54,280
Speaker 9: imaging center allows you to have a baseline testing before

2401
02:10:54,320 --> 02:10:57,600
Speaker 9: you go through. All its that and not just, football

2402
02:10:57,640 --> 02:11:03,440
Speaker 9: it's just surely any sport or car. Accidents but it

2403
02:11:03,480 --> 02:11:06,440
Speaker 9: allows us to have a format to give back to

2404
02:11:06,520 --> 02:11:10,480
Speaker 9: those that suffer from spinal, injuries brain injuries and things

2405
02:11:10,480 --> 02:11:12,880
Speaker 9: that we take for, granted but we still allows us

2406
02:11:12,880 --> 02:11:13,600
Speaker 9: to move forward in.

2407
02:11:13,680 --> 02:11:17,200
Speaker 1: Life so it sounds like you are in fact looking

2408
02:11:17,240 --> 02:11:20,920
Speaker 1: out for other people's sons and daughters and That Jeff

2409
02:11:20,920 --> 02:11:23,920
Speaker 1: burris is known as legacy and a great tribute to Low.

2410
02:11:23,920 --> 02:11:26,320
Speaker 1: HOLTZ i appreciate the time today and squeezing us. IN

2411
02:11:26,440 --> 02:11:29,320
Speaker 1: i know you've got a very busy, Schedule. Jeff appreciate

2412
02:11:29,360 --> 02:11:31,320
Speaker 1: the time and the perspective on somebody that was very

2413
02:11:31,320 --> 02:11:31,680
Speaker 1: close to.

2414
02:11:31,720 --> 02:11:34,720
Speaker 6: YOU i appreciate you giving me a.

2415
02:11:34,800 --> 02:11:36,800
Speaker 9: Call allow me to be a part of, It, jake

2416
02:11:36,880 --> 02:11:37,960
Speaker 9: and thank you so.

2417
02:11:38,080 --> 02:11:41,040
Speaker 1: Much Jeff burris joining us on The Java House Coldbrew

2418
02:11:41,080 --> 02:11:44,080
Speaker 1: coffee guest. Line jamb has been walking around a little pepitist.

2419
02:11:44,120 --> 02:11:46,360
Speaker 1: Step we'll get to exactly why when we do the

2420
02:11:46,400 --> 02:11:48,080
Speaker 1: crossover brought to you by the good guys that Love

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Speaker 1: heating And. Air, next it was wise OF jmb to

2422
02:11:53,040 --> 02:11:55,960
Speaker 1: make sure that the celebrity three point shootout took place

2423
02:11:56,000 --> 02:12:00,360
Speaker 1: between twelve and, three but he did take home all

2424
02:12:00,400 --> 02:12:03,480
Speaker 1: the hardware At Hinkle. Fieldhouse he joins us Now crossover

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02:12:08,240 --> 02:12:10,160
Speaker 1: Basketball you see their, Signage yes.

2428
02:12:10,040 --> 02:12:10,520
Speaker 4: You do In.

2429
02:12:10,640 --> 02:12:15,960
Speaker 1: Hinkle but So, john you shot it well, RIGHT i think.

2430
02:12:15,760 --> 02:12:20,000
Speaker 11: As an end, RESULT i went ten, seventeen fourteen in three.

2431
02:12:19,840 --> 02:12:23,880
Speaker 1: Rounds and that is. It basically was it the racks

2432
02:12:23,880 --> 02:12:24,360
Speaker 1: around The.

2433
02:12:24,400 --> 02:12:27,040
Speaker 11: Yeah it, Was and they gave us a little bit more.

2434
02:12:27,160 --> 02:12:29,880
Speaker 11: Time so there were a couple of different times in.

2435
02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:31,640
Speaker 11: There you could see ME i TOOK i had enough.

2436
02:12:31,640 --> 02:12:34,520
Speaker 11: TIME i took a rhythm dribble to re establish to

2437
02:12:34,560 --> 02:12:36,680
Speaker 11: feel better a couple of different. Times IF i missed a,

2438
02:12:36,720 --> 02:12:40,040
Speaker 11: Couple i'd take a rhythm. Dribble but it's. Weird that's

2439
02:12:40,120 --> 02:12:44,000
Speaker 11: not normally HOW i, shoot but once because you're shooting

2440
02:12:44,040 --> 02:12:48,600
Speaker 11: from college, distance AND i wanted to make sure that

2441
02:12:49,040 --> 02:12:52,040
Speaker 11: my follow through was the same every, time SO i.

2442
02:12:52,080 --> 02:12:54,520
Speaker 11: Didn't REALLY i don't shoot it the way that it

2443
02:12:54,640 --> 02:12:57,600
Speaker 11: looks all the time WHEN i. Play it looked a

2444
02:12:57,640 --> 02:12:59,440
Speaker 11: little bit different today than it normally.

2445
02:12:59,440 --> 02:13:02,000
Speaker 1: Does does it give, YOU i, mean flipp and se

2446
02:13:02,080 --> 02:13:06,400
Speaker 1: aside an appreciation for when you watch like a Leg

2447
02:13:06,720 --> 02:13:08,440
Speaker 1: i'm not saying yours, was but when you watch a

2448
02:13:08,520 --> 02:13:11,400
Speaker 1: legit three point, contest the stamina that goes into it

2449
02:13:11,440 --> 02:13:12,800
Speaker 1: basically no doubt you know WHAT i?

2450
02:13:12,840 --> 02:13:15,200
Speaker 11: Mean BECAUSE i could have easily been beaten in the third,

2451
02:13:15,320 --> 02:13:17,440
Speaker 11: round AND i had a seventeen of the second, round

2452
02:13:17,800 --> 02:13:19,600
Speaker 11: AND i should have had a twenty two in the second.

2453
02:13:19,680 --> 02:13:21,560
Speaker 1: Round but did you lose your legs after a.

2454
02:13:21,600 --> 02:13:24,640
Speaker 11: WHILE i didn't LOSE i don't really work my legs that,

2455
02:13:25,240 --> 02:13:29,680
Speaker 11: much BUT i. Do my arms get, tired for. Sure and,

2456
02:13:30,600 --> 02:13:33,880
Speaker 11: yeah it's it is not too much farther than the

2457
02:13:33,960 --> 02:13:37,000
Speaker 11: high school, distance but AND i will shoot it past

2458
02:13:37,040 --> 02:13:39,640
Speaker 11: the high school difference or a, DISTANCE i should, say

2459
02:13:39,680 --> 02:13:43,200
Speaker 11: but just not in that particular. Volume plus you're coming

2460
02:13:43,280 --> 02:13:45,440
Speaker 11: off a. Rack you're not getting the ball from a,

2461
02:13:45,560 --> 02:13:49,760
Speaker 11: pass and that's weird the whole. Thing and you're against the,

2462
02:13:49,800 --> 02:13:52,160
Speaker 11: clock and it's it's a. Hinkle and if you've ever

2463
02:13:52,160 --> 02:13:55,120
Speaker 11: shot at, hinkle What's i'm sure you. Have most of the,

2464
02:13:55,200 --> 02:13:57,320
Speaker 11: time it's got to go straight down or that thing's coming.

2465
02:13:57,360 --> 02:13:59,120
Speaker 11: Out and if you saw the money ball that we,

2466
02:13:59,320 --> 02:14:01,680
Speaker 11: used it was hard for that thing to go in

2467
02:14:01,960 --> 02:14:03,640
Speaker 11: because if it hit any of the, rim it was

2468
02:14:03,680 --> 02:14:06,360
Speaker 11: probably gonna pop up The State fair. Exactly AND i

2469
02:14:06,440 --> 02:14:08,960
Speaker 11: don't know if they utilize it that, way but it

2470
02:14:09,200 --> 02:14:10,200
Speaker 11: was that was a little bit.

2471
02:14:10,240 --> 02:14:12,200
Speaker 1: Odd what's on The Big show, Today Joe.

2472
02:14:12,280 --> 02:14:15,320
Speaker 11: Lonardi we're going to do some bracketology With joe regarding

2473
02:14:15,640 --> 02:14:18,280
Speaker 11: last night's games and what could take place coming up

2474
02:14:18,320 --> 02:14:21,680
Speaker 11: this weekend and going into the conference. Tournaments denari on

2475
02:14:21,840 --> 02:14:24,840
Speaker 11: the matherin game last night for The clippers against the

2476
02:14:24,920 --> 02:14:28,240
Speaker 11: pacers and what is to, come and we've got More

2477
02:14:28,280 --> 02:14:31,080
Speaker 11: i'm sure On Alec pierce and hopefully what is not

2478
02:14:31,200 --> 02:14:33,400
Speaker 11: going to turn out to be a. Fiasco but yesterday

2479
02:14:33,880 --> 02:14:34,840
Speaker 11: it certainly had all.

2480
02:14:34,760 --> 02:14:37,480
Speaker 1: The makings of a. FIASCO i was going to, say

2481
02:14:37,760 --> 02:14:40,240
Speaker 1: the dominoes are starting to line up in an ominous.

2482
02:14:40,240 --> 02:14:42,360
Speaker 11: Way it looks VERY i don't know what is the,

2483
02:14:42,600 --> 02:14:45,000
Speaker 11: fiasque fiesque Skesk.

2484
02:14:45,280 --> 02:14:48,520
Speaker 2: Fiascus it looks like it's going to be a fiasco.

2485
02:14:48,680 --> 02:14:51,360
Speaker 1: Though all, Right john's. Up, yes we will be back

2486
02:14:51,400 --> 02:14:54,320
Speaker 1: with you at noon. Tomorrow thank you for listening To Quarry.

2487
02:14:54,360 --> 02:14:54,640
Speaker 1: Company