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Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 2: And I still here Tony Katz Today's awesome intro music.

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Speaker 2: This is Mike Coolidge in for Tony Katz Today and

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Speaker 2: fingers crossed tomorrow and so excited to join Tony Katz's

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Speaker 2: listeners on what could be a really news breaky day

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Speaker 2: an in or I should say out of Indiana. That's

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I know that Tony Katz Today is broadcast on some

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Speaker 2: stations that are outside of Indiana. So if you are

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Speaker 2: on one of those stations, understand that we are delving

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Speaker 2: into the Indiana redistricting stuff later on this show as

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Speaker 3: That is because that is a national story.

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Speaker 2: It is a hugely national story that President Trump has

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Speaker 2: been posting on truth social about, both of his sons

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Speaker 2: has national ramifications. So those of you who are in Indiana,

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Speaker 3: Very familiar with this.

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Speaker 2: You likely are represented by many of the senators that

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Speaker 2: We will bring it to you live if news develops.

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Speaker 2: The word is or not the word is. The facts

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Speaker 2: The Indiana Senate is going to vote today, or at

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Speaker 2: least they're going to session today at one thirty Eastern time. Okay,

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Speaker 4: gang and cartel violence. Under President Trump's leadership, we've designated

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today. I am Mike Coolidge in

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Speaker 2: don't want to delve into too much about me and

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Speaker 2: my background because who cares. We have some really big

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Speaker 2: stuff to talk about today. If you so desire and

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Speaker 2: you want to look up more about yours, truly, you

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Speaker 2: can find me at Coolidge ko l I dge on

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Speaker 2: the old X Coolidge. It's spelled with a K. Before

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Speaker 2: the break, we were talking about the old Christmas season,

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Speaker 2: you know, how big a deal it is, and this

443
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Speaker 2: hot topic of illegal immigration and these criminal illegal aliens

444
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Speaker 2: that if you go to DHS dot gov forward slash wow,

445
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Speaker 2: you can see in your state some of these insanely

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Speaker 2: awful human beings that have been convicted of crimes like

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Speaker 2: kidnapping and murder and homicide, who are being prevented from

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Speaker 2: being accosted by ice by leftist protesters and Democrats.

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Speaker 3: They don't want these people to be.

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Speaker 2: Thrown out of the country, Oh no, they're protecting them.

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Speaker 2: And that the same mindset thinks that the Holy Family

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Speaker 2: that would be Joseph, Mary and baby Jesus are somehow

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Speaker 2: applicable to the illegal immigration discussion. This is the kind

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Speaker 2: of thing that boils my blood more than anything as

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Speaker 2: a Christian, is when politics and leftism, that's the religion

456
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Speaker 2: really of so many of these leftists, and they either

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Speaker 2: bastardize with heresy the story of the birth of our

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Speaker 2: Lord and your Jesus Christ with their politics, or they

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Speaker 2: are mocking it because they themselves are not Christian and

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Speaker 2: they try to put the guilt somehow and those of

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Speaker 2: us that are by saying, wait, wasn't the Holy family

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Speaker 2: illegal immigrants too?

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Speaker 3: Or I mean, what's going on here? No maze.

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Speaker 2: Jefferson and the Federalist has a brilliant piece which I

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Speaker 2: encourage you to check out. Check out on the Federalists.

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Speaker 2: The Holy Family fleeing from one Roman controlled region to

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Speaker 2: another in the first century is in no way a

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Speaker 2: mandate on whether America has a right to enforce immigration laws.

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Speaker 2: Last week, a Catholic church in Massachusetts made headlines with

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Speaker 2: its Nativity display in which Mary Joseph and Baby Jesus

471
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Speaker 2: were replaced by an empty major manger and an anti

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Speaker 2: ICE poster. Now it seems the church's pastor is refusing

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Speaker 2: to take down the display for the time being, against

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Speaker 2: the wishes of his church authority. Saint Susannah, located in

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Speaker 2: the Boston suburb of Dedham, displayed a Nativity scene outside

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Speaker 2: the church with an empty manger and a sign that

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Speaker 2: says Ice was here.

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Speaker 3: Fox News reported yesterday.

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Speaker 2: The implication, of course, is that the baby Savior was

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Speaker 2: either apprehended or threatened by federal immigration agents. Get it.

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Speaker 2: The Holy Family is safe in the sanctuary of our church.

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Speaker 2: The sign below the icewsseer poster read, followed by contact

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Speaker 2: information for a group that monitors immigration operations in the state.

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Speaker 2: Father Stephen Josama, the pastor at States on A, reportedly

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Speaker 2: told Fox that the church's Peace and Justice Group puts

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Speaker 2: together a display each year. They tried to see what

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Speaker 2: it would be like if Christ was born into the

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Speaker 2: context of the world today and asks what would he

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Speaker 2: be facing. The display's ultimate message is clear in a

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Speaker 2: modern day context, Jesus, his mother Mary, and earthly father

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Speaker 2: Joseph would be considered migrants, a family of refugees crossing

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Speaker 2: borders only to face being nabbed by law enforcement officers

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Speaker 2: amid Trump's illegal immigration crackdown. If that rubs you the

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Speaker 2: wrong way, you're the problem, at least according to Chosama,

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Speaker 2: who told Fox that it's a display of relief.

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Speaker 3: Just art evokes a strong reaction.

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Speaker 2: It's maybe good soon take a look at that. On Friday,

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Speaker 2: the Archdiocese of Boston condemned the display, which was reportedly

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Speaker 2: put up without its permission. According to Fox, the archdiocese

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Speaker 2: secretary for Communications and Public Affairs issued a statement calling

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Speaker 2: for the display to be removed and the manger restored

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Speaker 2: to its proper sacred purpose. ICE Acting Director todd lyonce

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Speaker 2: has also spoken at against the politicized Nativity. On Monday,

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Speaker 2: Josama defended the display and indicated it would stay in

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Speaker 2: place while waiting for an opportunity of dialogue and clarity

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Speaker 2: with Archbishop Richard Heading before reaching any final decisions. As

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Speaker 2: an aside here, I'll say I'm a Presbyterian. I have

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Speaker 2: a lot of respect for Catholics.

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Speaker 3: I really do.

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Speaker 2: Some of my best friends are Catholic, and we talk

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Speaker 2: about the differences between the two sects of Christianity a lot.

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Speaker 2: But one of the key differences I know between Catholics

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Speaker 2: and Protestants and mainline Protestant denominations like Presbyterianism, is that

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Speaker 2: Catholics have a hierarchical structure to their church, with the

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Speaker 2: Pope being at the top of it. And I can't

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Speaker 2: speak smartly about it because I'm not Catholic, but I

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Speaker 2: know that it goes something like the Pope and then

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Speaker 2: cardinals and then bishops and then priests.

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Speaker 3: And you know, if.

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Speaker 2: You hear from higher in the Catholic Church that hey, guys,

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Speaker 2: you shouldn't be doing that at the church and you

522
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Speaker 2: need to take it down, they're.

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Speaker 3: Supposed to follow those orders.

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Speaker 2: It's not the case in the Protestant it's more bottom

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Speaker 2: up in the Presbyterian Church. I can speak as a

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Speaker 2: Presbyterian as an elder at my church too. It's a

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Speaker 2: congregationally led church always. And even the presbytery, which supposed

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Speaker 2: which is somewhat regional that you know, has a bunch

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Speaker 2: of other churches under the umbrella of a presbytery. We

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Speaker 2: don't answer to them either. They it's just a collective

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Speaker 2: body that kind of you know, has things under its umbrella. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: this is absolutely nuts, and we don't have time to

533
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Speaker 2: get into it. Maybe on the other side of the

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Speaker 2: break the historical inaccuracy of this ridiculousness, And next hour

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Speaker 2: there might be some updates too on the redistricting in Indiana,

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Speaker 2: which I know many of you live in. We will

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Speaker 2: be right back on Tony Katz today. I am My

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Speaker 2: Coolidge in for Tony. Let's stay with.

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Speaker 1: Us line from ball hartber and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 1: It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: It is Tony Katz today, I am Mike Coolidge in

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Speaker 2: for Tony Katz. Cooliage is spelled with the K K

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Speaker 2: O O L I d G. E. See a ton

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Speaker 2: of people too, following and liking and such on the old.

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Speaker 3: X, I love X.

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Speaker 2: I grock a lot. I grock for like, what should

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Speaker 2: I have for breakfast today? I mean, I overly use

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Speaker 2: Crocket's worth every penny. I think it's what eleven dollars

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Speaker 2: a month or something like that.

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Speaker 3: It's worth it.

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Speaker 2: I use it all. It is replaced Google in my

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Speaker 2: life for sure. And yeah, and I thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for listening to Tony Katz today. I believe Tony

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Speaker 2: will be back on Monday, so you have we're truly

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Speaker 2: both today and tomorrow and this hour, the Indiana Senate

556
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Speaker 2: is coming into session and they hopefully maybe we won't

557
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Speaker 2: know until they do it, we'll be voting on the

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Speaker 2: redistricting map. Is Indiana going to add to Republican seats

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six because of the remapping that they

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Speaker 2: have the power to do and the governor has the

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Speaker 2: power to sign. Or are they going to punts? Are

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Speaker 2: they going to say, nah, we may. In fact, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna go ahead and predict here we will probably not

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Speaker 2: have an answer to that question this hour. We might

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Speaker 2: have an answer to that question next hour live on

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Speaker 2: this radio show. Yeah, and likely by the end of today.

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Speaker 2: So that is kind of exciting. And for those who

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Speaker 2: have not listened to me phill In before. For Tony,

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Speaker 2: I'll try to do this in thirty seconds. I live

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Speaker 2: in Illinois. I hosted my own radio show for fifteen years,

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Speaker 2: the Michael Coolidge Show. I was in the Army for

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Speaker 2: six years. I ran for Congress. I ended my show

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Speaker 2: to run for Congress. I've worked for packs, I've worked

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Speaker 2: for nonprofits. I do a whole lot of stuff. I'm

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Speaker 2: the county chairman of my Republican Party in my county,

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Speaker 2: so I'm very much involved in politics. I'm involved behind

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Speaker 2: the scenes. I'm involved with an organization that helps fund

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00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 2: grass roots infrastructure to our great country. And we're trying

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Speaker 2: to make the state of Illinois purple so that it

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Speaker 2: can turned red like the great state of Indiana. We're

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Speaker 2: trying to keep Michigan and Wisconsin purple slash red, but

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Speaker 2: we'd like to make it a lot rder, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean. And there's a bunch of other states

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Speaker 2: as well that we have our eye on. But this

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Speaker 2: whole national fight about redistricting is.

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Speaker 3: Huge. And whether you're.

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Speaker 2: Listening to this show right now from the state of

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Speaker 2: Indiana or whether you're listening to it in another state.

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Speaker 2: What's happening in Indiana today, even though it might just

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Speaker 2: be two seats that will flip because of the vote

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Speaker 2: that happens today, likely in the state capital of Indiana

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Speaker 2: that is going to have national ramification. So we will

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Speaker 2: be talking about it today. So I don't want you

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Speaker 2: to tune out I think, oh, this is only Indiana talk. No,

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00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 2: this is national talk. Just happens to have some news

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Speaker 2: occurring in the great state of Indiana. I do want

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Speaker 2: to finish my thought on what we were talking about

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Speaker 2: the previous hour about illegal immigration and this. You know

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Speaker 2: Andrew Breitbart who was on my radio show sixteen times

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Speaker 2: before he passed away many years ago. I know Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz knew him as well. Just an absolute giant in

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Speaker 2: the newer conservative movement of this you know, twenty first century.

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Speaker 2: His most famous phrase was politics is downstream from culture.

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Speaker 2: And the biggest cultural thing happening here in the United States,

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Speaker 2: as it does every single year, is Christmas. And leftist

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Speaker 2: extremists are trying to hijack the beginning of the greatest

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Speaker 2: story ever told, which begins with the birth of Jesus Christ,

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Speaker 2: which is what Christmas is about. By comparing it to

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Speaker 2: the fight over illegal immigrants. And you have these churches

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Speaker 2: in Massachusetts, and there's actually one in Illinois too that's

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Speaker 2: trying to do this like they replaced baby Jesus with

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Speaker 2: nothing and saying Ice was here, implying that Baby Jesus

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Speaker 2: was stolen, and then they have instead of the three

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Speaker 2: wise men, they have Ice agents. Like that this says

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Speaker 2: to do something with illegal immigration. It doesn't at all.

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Speaker 2: Mazy Jefferson and the Federalist points this out that this

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Speaker 2: is hardly the first time reading from her piece, Professor,

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Speaker 2: Christians have exploited the Biblical narrative to essentially justify allowing

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Speaker 2: millions of illegal aliens into the United States, and following

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Speaker 2: a year of horrific leftist political violence, including against Ice agents,

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Speaker 2: speaking out against this manipulative endeavor has never been more important.

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Speaker 2: That's why I'm continuing this from the next y other. You

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Speaker 2: really got to speak out against this. At the very least,

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Speaker 2: anyone who.

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Speaker 3: Has actually read the biblical.

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Speaker 2: Account of Christ's birth knows how seriously historically flawed it

627
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Speaker 2: is to cast Mary, Joseph, and Jesus as modern day migrants.

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00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: Mary and Joseph went to Bethlehem in accordance with the

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Speaker 2: law to be counted as members of the Roman world, not.

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Speaker 3: To evade it or escape it.

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Speaker 2: That's from Luke to Chapters one through fifteen, or Luke

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Speaker 2: Chapter two, verses one through fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Jesus was born in.

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Speaker 2: A stable, not because the Holy Family was homeless or displaced,

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Speaker 2: but because there was no guest room available for them

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Speaker 2: during their census trip to the city of David. Yeah,

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00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: they were following the laws of their land at the time. Now,

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Speaker 2: the display at Saint Susannah, this Catholic church in Massachusetts

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Speaker 2: that has this horrific heretical display, and there's others happening too.

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Speaker 2: There's one in the North Shore of Chicago that's doing

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Speaker 2: it too. These displays very well could be a reference

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Speaker 2: to how the Holy Family later fled from Bethlehem to Egypt,

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Speaker 2: which happened up to two years after Christ's birth. In

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Speaker 2: this case, Mary and Joseph were escaping an evil ruler

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Speaker 2: who threatened their son, but even then the analogy is

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Speaker 2: still faulty. Bethlehem was located in the Roman controlled territory

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Speaker 2: of Judea, which was overseen by King Herod at the

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Speaker 2: time of Jesus' birth. Although Herod was essentially a puppet

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Speaker 2: ruler on behalf of the Romans. News of the birth

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Speaker 2: of the Messiah, the true king of the Jews, threatened

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Speaker 2: his power. He asked the Magi to report g Jesus's

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Speaker 2: location back to him. When they failed to do this,

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Speaker 2: Herod gave orders to kill all the baby boys in

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Speaker 2: Bethlehem and its vicinity who were two years old and

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Speaker 2: under Matthew two. I literally just read this verse this morning.

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Speaker 2: Jesus was spared because an angel of the Lord came

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Speaker 2: to Joseph in a dream telling him to escape to

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Speaker 2: Jesus with his family. On its face, this might seem

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Speaker 2: comparable to some sort of refugee situation. However, setting aside

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Speaker 2: the fact that the geopolitics of the ancient Middle East

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Speaker 2: are not directly comparable to modern day American immigration laws.

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Speaker 2: In the first place, Egypt and Judea were both under

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Speaker 2: Roman control at the time, it's misleading to suggest Mary

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Speaker 2: and Joseph fled to a foreign country to escape their

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Speaker 2: own Back in twenty nineteen, Christian apologists Wesley Huff similarly

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Speaker 2: debunked claims that Mary, Joseph, and Jesus were refugees, and

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Speaker 2: a Facebook post documented by and apologetics group stand to reason,

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Speaker 2: He said, so, for the sake of analogy, I want

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Speaker 2: you to picture a modern day couple Maria and Jose

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Speaker 2: who are traveling with their baby Jesus, all born and

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Speaker 2: raised in Arizona. They're fleeing Tempe, Arizona and seeking temporary

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Speaker 2: shelter in San Diego, California due to a discriminatory magistrate

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Speaker 2: judge who they feel is unjust and would pursue persecution

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Speaker 2: within their home state. That's an accurate analogy. Would we

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Speaker 2: consider this modern couple as refugees seeking asylum?

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 2: If words have meanings and those meanings matter, then no

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Speaker 2: one in our hypothetical modern day Nativity scene were refugees,

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Speaker 2: not according to what term is understood to legally and

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Speaker 2: rationally mean. Huff went out to note that while quote

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Speaker 2: the political situation in question is a pressing and serious issue,

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Speaker 2: it does not make historical sense to take a modern definition,

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Speaker 2: apply it to a situation within antiquity using a modern

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Speaker 2: lens of both situation and geographical borders, and then try

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Speaker 2: to apply it to.

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Speaker 3: Make a political point.

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Speaker 2: At the time he was writing this, during the first

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Speaker 2: Trump administration, the Methodist Church made headlines for a Nativity

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Speaker 2: display featuring a holy family as refugees in cages get it,

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Speaker 2: and I guess this. Catholic church in New England made

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Speaker 2: a similar display in twenty eighteen, The Federalists Mazie Jefferson

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Speaker 2: concludes political hijacking. After a year of anti Ice rioters

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Speaker 2: flying Mexican flags, leftists, sieges of government facilities, deportations of

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Speaker 2: countless criminals, and multiple violence attacks allegedly at the hands

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Speaker 2: of illegal aliens, all following Biden's open border spree, there

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Speaker 2: is no question that strict immigration enforcement is far past due.

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Speaker 2: Yet Democrats in the corporate media insist instead of running

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Speaker 2: cover for alleged human smugglers, smearing Trump and ICE agents

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Speaker 2: as Nazis, as another Nazis, another historically dubious comparison, and

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00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: perpetuating hoax after hoax to demonize law enforcement. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to suggest no one should ever be eligible for

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Speaker 2: asylum or that our immigration system is not broken, But

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Speaker 2: as jo Daniel Davidson, also in The Federalist, aptly noted

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Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen, it's unclear what democrats and liberal media

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Speaker 2: outlets want to happen. Do they think everyone who crosses

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Speaker 2: the border illegally and claims asylum should be released the

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Speaker 2: same day before we have any idea who they are

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Speaker 2: or where they came from. Does the outraged left think

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00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 2: there aren't bad people willing to exploit a very real crisis,

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Speaker 2: willing even to buy and sell children to take advantage

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Speaker 2: of defective US asylum law. Do they want all ICE

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Speaker 2: operations to cease completely again? If you didn't join us

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Speaker 2: for the first hour, go to DHS dot gov forward

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Speaker 2: slash wow just nine letters, really easy to remember DHS

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Speaker 2: dot gov and then wow wow, worst of the worst.

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Speaker 3: You can search in your state.

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Speaker 2: All of the criminal illegal aliens that ICE is attempting

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Speaker 2: to accost and then, hopefully God willing immediately expeditiously deport.

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Speaker 2: These are people who have been convicted of kidnapping, people

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Speaker 2: who've been convicted of homicide, people who've been convicted of

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Speaker 2: all sorts of awful things. DHS dot gov dot Wow.

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Speaker 2: Check it out. Historical ignorance and lack of common sense aside.

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Speaker 2: What makes me the most sad about Saint Susannah's display

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Speaker 2: and others like it, it's just how much they missed

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Speaker 2: the whole point of.

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Speaker 3: The Nativity scene.

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Speaker 2: The what if Jesus were born now argument, leveraged by

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Speaker 2: church leaders completely overlooks a key church leaders, like the

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Speaker 2: people she references in this piece. By the way, it's

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Speaker 2: obviously not all church leaders. There's a lot of great

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Speaker 2: churches out there who are focusing on the point of

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Speaker 2: the Nativity displays, which is to acknowledge the birth of

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Speaker 2: our Lord and.

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Speaker 3: Savior, Jesus Christ, which is what Christmas is all about.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to hijack it with your politics. Christ

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Speaker 2: came when the fillness of time had come at the

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Speaker 2: exact right moment, in the exact right place, the virgin

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Speaker 2: birth and the arrival of Emmanuel God with us we're

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Speaker 2: foretold in the Old Testament and fulfilled in the New Testament.

741
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Speaker 2: To strip the christ Smith's story up its place in

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Speaker 2: history and cast the Lord as a political victim is

743
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Speaker 2: to miss the hand of God, who, while transcending time,

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Speaker 2: nonetheless send himself to us. In a specific context, Jesus

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Speaker 2: fled to and came out of Egypt. Like his people

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Speaker 2: before him, He fulfilled the law and the prophets he

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Speaker 2: suffered at the hands of the religious leaders and the Romans.

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Speaker 2: He tore the curtain into he rose victorious, and now

749
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: with him, so can we. The point of Christ's birth

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Speaker 2: is that it both involves and transcends our human existence,

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Speaker 2: thus redeeming it. In the midst of broken immigration systems

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Speaker 2: and riots in the streets, let us turn our eyes

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Speaker 2: to eternity and call on his mighty name that will

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Speaker 2: never be overcome, wonderful counselor Mighty God, everlasting Father, Prince

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Speaker 2: of Peace. And while we wait for his return, let

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Speaker 2: us resist all efforts of cheap political activism that seek

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Speaker 2: to cheapen his display of love for us. Mazie Jefferson

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Speaker 2: in The Federalist absolutely brilliant piece. I encourage you to

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Speaker 2: check it out Maize Jefferson and ais e Y Jefferson,

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00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: like the President, If you see this kind of junk,

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Speaker 2: this toxic heresy happening at your church, someone trying to

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Speaker 2: inject their modern politics into this, call it out, you know,

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Speaker 2: point it out, and you could do it in a calm,

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Speaker 2: rational way. I think the simplest thing is just say,

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Speaker 2: do you guys read the Bible? Do you actually read it?

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Speaker 2: Can you get you know, in this day and age

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Speaker 2: I mentioned like groc and Google twenty years ago, Google

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Speaker 2: revolutionized the world. You had to have You used to

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Speaker 2: have to walk down to the library to pick up

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Speaker 2: a book or read, or the bookstore to read a

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Speaker 2: book about history. And you know what was going on

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Speaker 2: at the time of Jesus' birth. Let's say, now you

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Speaker 2: can grock it and have an answer to you and

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Speaker 2: even tells you in like twenty two seconds, a very

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Speaker 2: detailed breakdown of things. That's how easy it is to

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Speaker 2: dispel stupidity, dispel ignorance. So anyone doing this kind of thing,

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Speaker 2: they don't care about the facts, they don't care about

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Speaker 2: the birth of Christ. They care about politics, they care

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00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 2: about their agenda. It is so important to call that

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Speaker 2: out and speak out up against it if you happen

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00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 2: to see it in your area or your community, and

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Speaker 2: I encourage you to do so. All Right, we are

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Speaker 2: going to take a break on Tony Katz today. I

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Speaker 2: am Mike Coolidge in for Tony Katz. Yes, the Indiana

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00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 2: Senates will be voting, or at least they'll be in

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Speaker 2: session this hour. When they vote is up to them,

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Speaker 2: but they're gonna be in session in a matter of

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Speaker 2: minutes here and that might make some national news today.

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Speaker 2: We will see. We will be right back on Tony

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Speaker 2: Cats today. My cool Jean for TONI stay with us.

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Speaker 2: We're back on Tony Katz today. Michael Coolidge in for

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz or Mike Yeah go by Mike Coolidge is

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Speaker 2: spelled with a K. This Pumper music must be a

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Speaker 2: new band. Hadn't heard this one before? Joking of course

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Speaker 2: this came out. I'm gonna I'm not gonna date myself

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Speaker 2: and tell you when where I was when this song

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Speaker 2: came out. But man, what a world changing song and

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Speaker 2: world changing band. Times Person of the Year Any guesses?

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Speaker 2: Any guesses who it is? I read a great piece

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00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 2: in Real Clear Politics earlier this week by Joe Conca,

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00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 2: old friend of my old radio show.

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00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 3: Who you see him on Fox News A lot? Who knows?

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00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll have a wee. We'll see if he's available tomorrow.

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00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 2: Maybe he's a great guy. He wrote a piece on

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00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 2: Times Person of the Year should be Charlie Kirk. That

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00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: should be you know, acknowledged post hoomously. I always say

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00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 2: that word wrong post you know you know the word uh.

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00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: He wrote a really really great piece on how Charlie

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00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 2: Kirk's impact on the country is unparalleled, certainly for anyone

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Speaker 2: under the age of forty uh and arguably I mean

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Speaker 2: anyone of the last twenty five years for sure. Definitely

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Speaker 2: in politics. What he was able to accomplish with Turning

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Speaker 2: Point USA, what he was able to accomplish with his

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Speaker 2: radio show, would you were able to accomplish with his

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Speaker 2: his content he created, which is still being consumed by

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Speaker 2: tons of people. I mean, you know, millions and millions

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Speaker 2: of young people. I think he's almost single handedly responsible

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Speaker 2: for Arizona going to Trump in twenty twenty four, and

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00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 2: single handed responsible for Generation Z men in particular a

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Speaker 2: lot of women, but men in particular gen z Men

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Speaker 2: being the majority of them being conservative the first time ever,

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Speaker 2: at least in my lifetime, that generations were. I'm a

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Speaker 2: gen Xer. Always when we were young US gen Xers,

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Speaker 2: we always knew that we were in the minority, but

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00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 2: as conservatives, I mean, but as time moved on, you

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00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: realized a lot more of your compatriots were becoming more conservative. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: times first of the Year is not Charlie Kirk, It

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Speaker 2: is not Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: I will not.

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Speaker 2: Tease it for the other side of the break. It's

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Speaker 2: the architects of AI. Yeah, boring, it's like eight people.

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Speaker 2: Oh sh no, one's gonna remember this one. Architects of

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Speaker 2: AI Times hears another year. While we're at back on

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz Today. Mike Coolich in for Tony gonna get

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Speaker 2: in to Indiana redistricting. That's right, stay with us, We're back.

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Speaker 3: If you're Antony Cats.

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Speaker 2: Today, Mike Coolidge in for Tony Katz. Yeah, this is

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Speaker 2: an urgent. We don't have news to report quite yet

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Speaker 2: because the Senate in the state of Indiana, which this

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Speaker 2: show is based out of, I know, and many of

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Speaker 2: you are listening to it on but not all of you,

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00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 2: but many of you. It's national news today what Indiana

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00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 2: is going to decide as far as this redistricting goes. Now,

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Speaker 2: let's just say you're not really following it a whole

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Speaker 2: lot yet. You listen to Tony Kats Today every day, obviously,

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Speaker 2: you listen to this great radio station, especially it's morning show,

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00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 2: and you are following this really closely. Just bear with

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Speaker 2: me here for this quick kind of primer on why

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00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 2: this is national news. Whatever happens with Indiana redistricting happens

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Speaker 2: every ten years. According to the US Constitution. There's a

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Speaker 2: census that occurs every ten years count everyone in the

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Speaker 2: United States, and then each state legislature, not the US Congress.

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Speaker 2: The state legislatures draw their own maps every ten years

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Speaker 2: or two years or so after the census is done,

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Speaker 2: and a new map comes out, and some states keep

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Speaker 2: their maps because the population didn't change that much, and

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Speaker 2: some states change them even if they don't increase or

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Speaker 2: decrease in the amount of total congressmen in that state.

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Speaker 2: I know a little bit about this because I was

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Speaker 2: hosting a radio show back in twenty nineteen and twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty and twenty twenty one and the twelve years before that,

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Speaker 2: every single day in the state of Illinois, the one

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Speaker 2: west of Indiana, and I knew that the remapping was

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Speaker 2: going to occur after the census came out. After the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty census in Illinois, they would redraw the maps

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Speaker 2: and we would be losing a congressional seat. And how

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Speaker 2: they drew those maps, whether the maps would have a

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00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 2: percentage higher number of Democrats in a district versus a

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00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 2: percentage higher number of Republicans in the district was going

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00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 2: to determine if I my Collidge was going to even

871
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 2: run for one of those districts, and I did. I

872
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 2: wasn't successful, But the reason that I ran was because

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00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 2: the district was according to the experts, the people who

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00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 2: figure out how many people are in each district, and

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00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 2: it's a data thing you could these days, you could

876
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 2: probably just figure it out with AI. But there's these

877
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 2: institutions like the Cook Political that talk about what the

878
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 2: partisan voting index is on each congressional district. And let's

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00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 2: say you are in a district that is our plus ten. Okay,

880
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 2: so you live in a district that is our plus ten.

881
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 2: That means that when voting occurs, the spread between Republicans

882
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 2: and Democrats in that district should be twenty points, not

883
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 2: ten points, but twenty points. It means that Republicans have

884
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: a plus ten advantage percentage wise, so it should be

885
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: sixty percent of that district is Republican, forty percent Democrat.

886
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 2: The plus ten is ten above the middle part to

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00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 2: fifty percent. Okay, that's confusing. I know for some people.

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00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 2: I didn't understand it either. At the met plus ten

889
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 2: was was it would be the Republican winning by ten. No,

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00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 2: it's actually double that district. Guy ran in Illinois was

891
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 2: a de plus five. The Democrat should have won that

892
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 2: district by the Actually it was a deep plus four.

893
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 2: The Democrats should have won that district in twenty twenty

894
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 2: two by eight points. She wound up winning it by

895
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 2: like nine. In all sorts of states throughout New England

896
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 2: and in the state of Hawaii, the state of Delaware,

897
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 2: New Mexico, even the state legislatures there draw up the

898
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 2: maps just like all the other states do after these

899
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 2: censuses every ten years, and they decide that they're going

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00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 2: to carve it up so that zero Republicans are represented

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00:59:55,800 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 2: in US Congress. Zero even though a so in these states,

902
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Speaker 2: and I'm going to read them here real quick, the

903
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 2: state congressional districts are comprised of all d pluses D

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01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 2: plus five here, de plus ten, de plus twenty, de

905
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 2: plus two or three, which means that they'll likely win

906
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 2: by you know, five or six. And even though there

907
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 2: are tons of Republicans in that state. May Massachusetts, where

908
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 2: I lived for four years and voted for the first

909
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 2: time back in the nineties, where I went to college,

910
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 2: uh thirty six percent Republicans there, they have zero seats

911
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 2: in Congress because of the way the Massachusetts legislature draws

912
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 2: their maps. Zero seats Connecticut forty two percent Republicans, zero

913
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 2: seats in Congress, Maine forty six percent Republican, zero seats,

914
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 2: New Mexico forty six percent, New Hampshire forty eight percent.

915
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 2: Zero seats in Congress that are Republican Rhode Island forty two,

916
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 2: Vermont thirty two, Hawaii thirty eight, Delaware forty two. In

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Speaker 2: my state, Illinois, Trump one, I believe thirty nine percent.

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Speaker 2: I looked this up before, and I could be wrong. No,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Oh, I was way off. Trump won forty

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Speaker 2: three percent of the state in UH twenty twenty four,

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01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 2: forty three percent. It's not a majority, obviously, KAMAA one

922
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 2: by fifty four. We have three Republican seats out of seventeen.

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Speaker 2: That is just if you do the population of the state,

924
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 2: just nineteen percent of Oh, no, I'm sorry, sixteen point

925
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 2: five percent of the state of Illinois has a Republican

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Speaker 2: representative in Congress, even though forty three percent of the

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01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 2: state of Illinois is Republican. Are you following me here?

928
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 2: So the states I mentioned, it's not just the states

929
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 2: that have zero seats. It's states like Illinois that Jerry

930
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 2: Mander it in such an extreme way that the amount

931
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 2: of Republicans in Congress should be way higher if Illinois

932
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 2: did things smartly and fairly. Maine, Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Mexico,

933
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 2: New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Vermont, Hawaii, and Delaware, all of

934
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 2: the states have zero Republicans in them, even though they

935
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 2: have a good chunk of their state population votes Republican.

936
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Speaker 2: So that brings us to Indiana. As we speak, the

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01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 2: Senate in Indiana is talking about and I don't have

938
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 2: a live feed of this. I'm sorry. I have national

939
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 2: news on my iPad here I'm consuming the White House

940
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 2: is having a press briefing right now. But as I

941
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 2: understand it, as I'm consuming my online news sources here,

942
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 2: Indiana Senate is in session and they're vote and they're

943
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 2: talking about this. Are they going to vote to redo

944
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 2: the map in the middle of the decade, right, which

945
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 2: they're allowed to do by law in order to counter

946
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 2: these other states that carve their maps in a way

947
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 2: that makes it extremely advantaged advantageous for Democrats. Are the

948
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 2: Indiana Republicans going to vote to make Indiana a all

949
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 2: Republican delegation state, which means just two districts. It's only

950
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: going to be a plus two if they vote on

951
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 2: this today. We will get into that on the other

952
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 2: side of this break on Tony Katz Today, I am

953
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 2: Mike Coolidge filling in for Tony. Stay with us. We're

954
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 2: back on Tony Tony Katz today. Let's look to this beach,

955
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 2: friends of Common Theredith. I am not Tony Katz. I

956
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 2: am Mike Coolitch in for Tony. Got of love real music.

957
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 2: This ain't no podcast. This is real radio podcast though

958
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 2: of course podcasting is awesome, but it's different on the

959
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 2: regular old radio. And I'm thrilled to be back broadcasting

960
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 2: for mister Tony Katz, old old radio friend of mine.

961
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 2: Tony's Tony's somewhat of a mystery, you know. I've known

962
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 2: him for a really long time radio wise. We met

963
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 2: on Radio row at Sea Pack in Washington, d C.

964
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 2: I think maybe it was like twenty ten. It was

965
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 2: back when it was the old at the old Merritt

966
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 2: Wardman Park. Andrew Breitbart was still with us. I interviewed

967
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 2: and I think he might have to Richard Dreyfus at

968
01:04:58,120 --> 01:04:58,919
Speaker 2: that Sea Pack.

969
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 3: It was so awesome.

970
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 2: Some many, many years ago, but uh, I don't. I

971
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 2: can't even tell you. I don't know if Tony I

972
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 2: don't know whether or not he uh is a I don't.

973
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 2: I've lost my train of thought on the great Tony Kats.

974
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 2: I forgot where that was going. But I'm trying to

975
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 2: I'm drawing. I'm doing two things at once here. Oh yeah,

976
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 2: I think I think I know what it was is

977
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 2: how how long and how much was he into podcasting?

978
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 3: Because I know his rate? Oh yeah, that's what it was.

979
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 2: How old he is? I don't know if Tony is

980
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 2: older or younger than me. I know we're both gen xers,

981
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 2: but I have no idea if Tony is my age

982
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 2: or if he's older than me. His hair is much

983
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 2: much better than mine. I have okay hair, but you

984
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 2: know I got a bald spot here and there. He

985
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 2: does not. He's got a really good head of hair

986
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 2: that Tony cats so at least last time I checked.

987
01:05:56,720 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 2: But I really appreciate uh joining the radio waves of

988
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 2: this state that you're listening to this, And I know

989
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 2: we broadcast from Indiana and the show is on in

990
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 2: other states. But the news of the day today is

991
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 2: going to be out of Indiana, and before the break,

992
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 2: we were talking about these gerrymandered states that have zero

993
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 2: Republican representation, even though there are tons in some cases,

994
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 2: like forty six percent of the state, like for example,

995
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 2: New Hampshire one has four congressional districts, forty six percent

996
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 2: of the state is Republican. They have zero representation there

997
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 2: because of how the Democrats chop up the state there. Well,

998
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 2: Republicans had finally had enough in twenty twenty five and said,

999
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 2: you know, in Republican state.

1000
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 3: Legislators like Texas.

1001
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 2: Texas was the one that started this is you know

1002
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 2: what we're going to kind of balance things out a bit.

1003
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 2: This is not uh fair representation nationally. It should not

1004
01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 2: be what is it two twenty to too seventeen. I

1005
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 2: think it is in the House of Representatives right now.

1006
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 2: I know Margie Taylor Green is retiring and you know

1007
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 2: some we just had the congressional seat in Tennessee that

1008
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 2: could have gone one way, but it stayed with the

1009
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 2: Republican give or take a seat or two. There's like

1010
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 2: a two or three or four seat majority right now

1011
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 2: in the House of Representatives and next year. Historically, the

1012
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 2: party not in power in the White House almost certainly

1013
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 2: gains seats. Well, Texas took it upon themselves to redraw

1014
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 2: their maps and it passed. It's going to be next year.

1015
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 2: The only entity that could undo that is the Supreme

1016
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 2: Court of the United States. Actually, no, I take that back.

1017
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 3: They already approved it.

1018
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 2: I'm reading here. Yeah, So it is going to be

1019
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 2: a plus five for Texas in twenty twenty six. Texas

1020
01:07:56,280 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 2: is going to gain five seats. California, in response to

1021
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 2: what Texas did, also gained five seats, except for the

1022
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 2: Democrat side of the House.

1023
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 3: It's going to gain five seats there.

1024
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 2: So that is still pending a Department of Justice lawsuit,

1025
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 2: so that's not one hundred percent yet. Texas is definitely

1026
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 2: going to gain five. California will likely gain five. So

1027
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 2: let's just count them out for a second. Missouri signed

1028
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 2: into law a referendum that is going to make it

1029
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 2: so that they will gain one seat, all right, one

1030
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 2: Republican seat. North Carolina redid their maps court approved. They

1031
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 2: will also gain one Republican seat with the redraw. Ohio,

1032
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 2: a bipartisan commission map was adopted. They will gain one

1033
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 2: to two Republican seats. We're going to skip Indiana for

1034
01:08:56,400 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 2: a second. Florida House committe started, there's an anti Jerryman

1035
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 2: during law limit, so this is not guaranteed, but Florida

1036
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:12,799
Speaker 2: could get anywhere from three to five Republican gained seats.

1037
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:17,560
Speaker 3: The state of Utah.

1038
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 2: Redrew it and they are going to create one additional

1039
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 2: Democrat seat. Maryland same thing, possibly one additional Democrat seat.

1040
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 2: We're gonna skip Illinois for a second because I know

1041
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 2: a lot about that because I live in it. Virginia

1042
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 2: if approved, there's going to be a vote in the

1043
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 2: twenty twenty sixth session where Virginia could increase their congressional

1044
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:48,560
Speaker 2: delegation by three Democrats, two for sure, possibly three. Kansas

1045
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 2: could do it by one, So that brings us back.

1046
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 2: So you add all them up. What's the plus and

1047
01:09:56,080 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 2: minus if everything goes through, could be a plus twelve

1048
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 2: for Republicans. That's what it could be if all of

1049
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 2: the if none of the lawsuits are successful and everything

1050
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 2: goes through, it could be plus twelve, which brings us

1051
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 2: to Indiana and Illinois. And the reason I connect these

1052
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 2: two is because JB. Pritzker, the terrible governor in the

1053
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 2: worst governed state in the country. That will be Illinois

1054
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 2: said that if Indiana today passes this new map that

1055
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:35,600
Speaker 2: will gain two Republican seats for Indiana, He's going to

1056
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 2: before the Illinois Legislature changing theirs to gain a seat

1057
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 2: in Illinois. When we come back in our number three

1058
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 2: of Tonycats today, I'm going to with authority tell you

1059
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 2: what's going to happen in Illinois or with an educated authority,

1060
01:10:56,240 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 2: and we will try to. It's a subjective opinion, but

1061
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 2: it's a good one and we'll hopefully have some hard

1062
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 2: news on what's happening in the Indiana Senate as we speak.

1063
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 2: This is Tony Kats today and my Coolidge.

1064
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 3: We'll be right back.

1065
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 1: Why from vall Hartbeyer and the Crossroads of America, it's

1066
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

1067
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:35,839
Speaker 2: We're back on Tony Katz today. I am My Coolidge

1068
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 2: in for Tony Cats. All eyes are on the great

1069
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 2: state of Indiana today as a Senate in Indiana decides

1070
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 2: on whether they're going to redraw the maps of Indian

1071
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 2: out of the congressional maps to give Republicans two seats

1072
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 2: plus two next year in the midterms of the United

1073
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 2: States of Atlantic is congressional industries for congressional races.

1074
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 3: Next year.

1075
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 2: We've got US Senate races going on throughout the country,

1076
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 2: but every or a third of them, right, because every

1077
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 2: two years there's a new group of Senators who are

1078
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 2: upoor reelection in their six year terms, but in the

1079
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 2: US House of Representatives, those are two year terms, so

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Speaker 2: it's every single cycle, every two years, the Republicans or

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01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 2: the Democrats will come out on top of leading the

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01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 2: House of Representatives. And whoever is in charge of the

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01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 2: House of Representatives, whichever party is in charge, how's it

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01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 2: got of power? And it's not just a matter of

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01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,640
Speaker 2: you know, being the Speaker of the House and you

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01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 2: get this extra cool office in the actual Capitol building,

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01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:59,560
Speaker 2: and you get to be chairman of committees and stuff. You,

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01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 2: if you're of the opposing party of the president at

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01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 2: the time, can stop legislation from getting through because you know,

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01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 2: us gen xers. US gen xers know how bills are

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01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 2: passed in Washington, d C. Because we grew up on

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01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 2: schoolhouse rocks and got the whole I'm just a bill thing.

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01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 2: But apparently they stop teaching civics to kids.

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01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 3: Of millennials and gen zers.

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01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 2: A lot of you know, the smart ones know how

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01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 2: it's done, but you'd be shocked and surprised how many

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01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 2: people graduate from high school and don't know that. The

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01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 2: president or a governor or a senator can't just you know,

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01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 2: write something down on a piece of paper and voila,

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01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 2: it's passed. If the opposing party is in control of

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01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 2: either of the houses, you can stop things in their tracks.

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01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 2: The Senate has the filibuster as of right now, anyway

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01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 2: where you can even have fifty nine Republican senators vote

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01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 2: for something and it will not go through because the

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01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 2: Democrats can always stop any legislation from going through if

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01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 2: they don't agree with it, because they can start filibustering it,

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01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 2: and you need sixty senators to stop a filibuster. Philibuster

1108
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 2: just stop something in its tracks. But if something doesn't

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01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 2: get out of the House at all, bad legislation or

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01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 2: good legislation, it's not going to become law. You can

1111
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 2: do an executive order, of course, but the next president

1112
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 2: can always undo that. If you want to pass something law,

1113
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 2: you know, something that will last and has has to

1114
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 2: be passed by another law to undo it in years,

1115
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 2: you know, years into the future.

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01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 3: You got to get it through the House.

1117
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 2: And the Senate, and then they go back and they,

1118
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 2: you know, if there's changes to the way the law

1119
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 2: was written in one house versus the other one, they

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01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,759
Speaker 2: reconcile it and they deliver to the President for signature,

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01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 2: and then it's done, and it can it's not really

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01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:04,679
Speaker 2: the end end because the systems and checks and palaces

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01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 2: we have here in the great republic called the United

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01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 2: States of America, there's one other branch of government that

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01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 2: can stop it, that can say nope, this law even

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01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 2: though the president signed it, even though the House in

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01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:20,719
Speaker 2: the Senate said it's good to go, Nope, it's not kosher.

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01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 3: It is not good to go.

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01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 2: It's out. I don't know what branch that is. Yes,

1130
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 2: the judicial branch, the Supreme Court. They can deem something

1131
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 2: unconstitutional and out it goes. No branch should have more

1132
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:36,560
Speaker 2: power than the other branch. That's the whole system of

1133
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 2: checks and balances, again, brilliantly set up by our founding fathers. Now,

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01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 2: every two years, especially after a presidential election of a

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01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 2: new president, which is what we just had with President

1136
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 2: Trump being a Republican, history says the Democrats should win

1137
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 2: more seats than Republicans do, or at least they should

1138
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 2: gain seats in these midterms coming up and the House

1139
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 2: of Representatives being so close to twenty to two seventeen,

1140
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,759
Speaker 2: give or take a thing, the Republicans are in charge.

1141
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 2: If it flips just three seats, two or three again,

1142
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 2: give or take one, somebody dying, there's four hundred and

1143
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 2: thirty five seats, so one or two seats does make

1144
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 2: a difference. Somebody retires early, or you know, there's a

1145
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 2: special election, two or three seats makes a huge difference.

1146
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 2: So Indiana today, if they decide to redraw the maps

1147
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 2: to give Indiana an additional two Republican heavy districts that

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01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 2: votes well for Republicans, maintaining control of the entire House

1149
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 2: of Representatives next year, the Trump Agenda, which the American

1150
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 2: people voted for, you know, in twenty twenty four, just

1151
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:56,480
Speaker 2: barely over a year ago, will go forward and continue

1152
01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 2: unabated only by Republicans in name only or senators who

1153
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:06,759
Speaker 2: want to filibuster or something. If the philibuster still exists

1154
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 2: next term. If the Democrats somehow maintain or not maintain control,

1155
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 2: but gain control of the House of Representatives, would be

1156
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 2: really really bad. It would be really difficult to get

1157
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 2: things done. The American agenda that again we all just

1158
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 2: voted for, would have a major, major stumbling bock. And then,

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01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 2: of course the Democrats, being Democrats, they have no plan,

1160
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 2: they have no ideas, they have no policy things. All

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01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 2: they are going to do is investigate Trump, try to

1162
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 2: impeach him again for the third time, try to impeach

1163
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 2: cabinet secretaries. Just it will be absolute Heck in Washington,

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01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 2: d C. If the Democrats take control of just one

1165
01:17:56,680 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 2: of the branches, the odds are that the or the

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01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 2: Republicans are going to maintain control of the Senate. That's

1167
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 2: probably going to be the case, which is really really good.

1168
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 2: But if the Democrats take control of the House, you

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01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 2: will be affected by it. Whether you live in Illinois

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01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 2: in a blue state, whether you live in Indiana a

1171
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 2: red state, whether you live in Utah, Texas, Maine, you

1172
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 2: will be affected nationally. So in Indiana today as we speak,

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01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 2: apparently and we do have an update. It's not a

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01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 2: vote or anything, but I'm reading here from somebody on

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01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 2: X that the session convened in Yeah, it convened almost

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01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:48,719
Speaker 2: an hour ago. The Indiana Senate. Each of the fifty

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01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 2: senators get a maximum of thirty minutes to speak, and

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01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 2: they are speaking right now.

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01:18:56,080 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 3: The vote time is going to continue.

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01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 2: And could come not anywhere near the next hour or so,

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01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:11,919
Speaker 2: it could come closer to like six pm tonight. He's predicting.

1182
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:15,759
Speaker 2: This guy on x is saying that it could happen

1183
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,640
Speaker 2: as early as six pm tonight or later tonight. So

1184
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 2: don't expect a vote in the Indiana Senate to occur

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01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 2: by the time this show was over. We only have

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01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:30,639
Speaker 2: forty five minutes left in this broadcast today, so that's

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01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 2: not going to You're not We're not going to break

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01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 2: news today. On tomorrow's show, we will have a whole

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01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 2: lot to talk about because we'll decide, well, we'll have

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01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 2: figured out whether or not these senators voted to have

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01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:52,599
Speaker 2: the new map heavy Republican or heavy heavy Democrat. Here's

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01:19:52,640 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 2: what will happen in Illinois if the Democrat if Indiana

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01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 2: passes a map that favors Republicans and gains two seats.

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01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 2: Jamie Pritzker said he's going to redraw the map in Illinois. Now,

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01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 2: I know a whole lot about the map in Illinois

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01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 2: because I ran in it two cycles ago, and I'm

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01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 2: very aware of how the map is drong. It is

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01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 2: next to impossible for Illinois to redraw the maps to

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01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 2: make it sixteen to one Democrats Republican. Okay, that you

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01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:32,600
Speaker 2: can throw out the window. I have seen redraws of

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01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 2: the map that make it so that it's fifteen Democrats

1202
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 2: and two Republicans. Here's why I don't think that's going

1203
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 2: to happen though, And again, this is if Indiana makes

1204
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 2: it so that they're plus two. The only if that happens,

1205
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 2: Illinois will redraw their maps. According to JB. Pritzker, or

1206
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 2: that he says he's going to support it. But here's

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01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 2: why I don't think it's going to happen. One, it's

1208
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 2: only going to cancel out in the best case scenario

1209
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:08,719
Speaker 2: for Democrats in Illinois one of those seats that indianagists added,

1210
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 2: so just one, and it's going to come at the

1211
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 2: expense of much safer seats for the current Democrats in

1212
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:27,719
Speaker 2: the congressional delegation of Illinois. Those Democrats, and there's about

1213
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 2: five seats in particular that are We talked earlier about

1214
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 2: what D plus five means, and D plus eight and

1215
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 2: D plus two means. If if a seat is D

1216
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 2: plus five, it means the Democrat will likely win that

1217
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 2: seat total by ten points. O. The D plus five

1218
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:49,679
Speaker 2: is over fifty percent. There's over fifty percent each percentage

1219
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 2: there's five percentage points higher than fifty if you're in

1220
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 2: a D plus five district. Okay, So in Illinois, there's

1221
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:58,760
Speaker 2: a bunch of seats that are you know, there's only

1222
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 2: one that's d plus two. There's one that's deplus four

1223
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 2: dep plus five, there's one that's deeplus three, and there's

1224
01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 2: one that's de plus eight I think though, and then

1225
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 2: the other one. The other ones are like de plus

1226
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 2: twenty five and deplus third. There's no way they will

1227
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 2: ever ever be a Republican in those seats that are

1228
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 2: drawing deeplus twenty deeplus twenty five, because that's like the

1229
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 2: Democrat winning by forty points. Okay, so they're deep as

1230
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 2: blue as you can be. Those Democrats in Illinois that

1231
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 2: are in the seats that are single digit de plus

1232
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 2: they don't want their number to go down to like

1233
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 2: deep plus one, because that's what it's going to take

1234
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 2: if Illinois redraws all of their maps and it becomes

1235
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 2: a fifteen to two state. They love power. There's nothing

1236
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 2: and I mean nothing on God's green Earth and really

1237
01:22:56,280 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 2: in the universe. Democrats love more than power. They're not

1238
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 2: going to weaken their power by voting for a fifteen

1239
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 2: to two map in Illinois, mark my words, and the

1240
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 2: Senate president and the House of Representatives head in Illinois,

1241
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 2: my state, has shown no inkling that they're going to

1242
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 2: vote to re do the maps. Pritzker, the blowhard that

1243
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:29,719
Speaker 2: he is, doesn't have the power he thinks he does.

1244
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:34,639
Speaker 2: And trust me, even a blowhard like Pritzker cannot give

1245
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 2: any favor to any Republican or I'm sorry, any Democrat congressional,

1246
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 2: any Democrat congressman right now in Illinois that is going

1247
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 2: to want to give up their power. It's going to

1248
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 2: want their seat to go from a D plus four

1249
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 2: to a D plus one, which is what is going

1250
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 2: to happen to some of those seats if they redrum.

1251
01:23:55,720 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 2: So the whole point of that is Indiana voters, Hoosiers,

1252
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 2: if you vote today to redraw the maps, it's going

1253
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:16,719
Speaker 2: to be nationwide are plus two, It's not. You don't.

1254
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 2: And again this is my educated guests here, but trust

1255
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 2: me on it. And again I'm going from someone who's

1256
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 2: lived for twenty five years in Illinois, followed politics pretty

1257
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 2: closely there, talked about it on the air for fifteen years.

1258
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 2: I know a whole lot of Republicans and Conservatives. I

1259
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 2: also know a handful of Democrats. I know how they operate.

1260
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 2: They will not do anything that hurts their power in Illinois.

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01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 2: So it's going to remain a fourteen to three split

1262
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 2: in Illinois regardless of what Indiana does today. So, Indiana Senators,

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01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:53,719
Speaker 2: those of you who are not showing up or who

1264
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 2: are possibly not going to vote, and I'm reading some

1265
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 2: names here from a post from Donald Trump, President of

1266
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:02,879
Speaker 2: the United.

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01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 3: States, yesterday, Actually.

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01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:10,759
Speaker 2: The following senators need some encouragement to make the right decision.

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01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 2: In fact, the quote from President Trump is this, The

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01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 2: Indiana Senate must now pass this map as is and

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01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 2: get Governor Mike Brown's get it to Governor Mike Brun's

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01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 2: desk asap to deliver a gigantic victory to Republicans in

1273
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 2: the Hoosier State and across the country.

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01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 3: That's the key. Across the country.

1275
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 2: I am hearing that these nine senators, some of whom

1276
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 2: are up for reelection in twenty twenty six and some

1277
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty eight need encouragement to make the right decision.

1278
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 2: Forgive me if I butcher some of the pronunciations of

1279
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:43,440
Speaker 2: these names because I don't know these state senators apologize,

1280
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 2: I don't cover Indiana state politics. But Blake Doriet, Brett Clark,

1281
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 2: Brian Buchanan, Dan dernalk Ed Charboneau, Greg Good, Jim Buck,

1282
01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 2: Rick Naymeyer, and Ryan miss Are. Those are the senators

1283
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 2: that apparently we don't know whether or not they're going

1284
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:11,480
Speaker 2: to vote for these this new map that gives Republicans

1285
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:13,720
Speaker 2: two plus seats. We don't know yet. But if one

1286
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 2: of these senators is yours, I highly encourage you to

1287
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 2: give them a call and encourage them to vote yes

1288
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 2: on this because we all know now too that they

1289
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 2: if there's any reason why they're not going to vote

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Speaker 2: for this, they're going to lose their seats the next time.

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Speaker 2: At turning point USA and the two Trump sons, both

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Speaker 2: of them have said no uncertain terms. They're going to

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Speaker 2: put millions. They're going to treat these Senate districts like

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Speaker 2: congressional districts or US Senate districts for that matter. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we have a US Senate race in Illinois where one

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Speaker 2: of the Democrats has already raised like twenty five million dollars,

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Speaker 2: then they've been able to have the primary, yet he's

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Speaker 2: already got twenty five million dollars in the bank. I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying that they're going to be a twenty five

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Speaker 2: million dollar Illinois State Senate seat race, but probably going

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Speaker 2: to go up boards of a million at least. And

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Speaker 2: that's going to mean that Republicans who vote against this

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01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 2: will likely not be sitting state senators in the elections

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Speaker 2: after twenty twenty six and twenty twenty whenever they're.

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Speaker 3: Up for re election again.

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Speaker 2: I imploor again, I'm not an It rubs me the

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Speaker 2: wrong way when people from other countries tell Americans what

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Speaker 2: to do and what to vote. And I'm not a Hoosier.

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Speaker 3: So take this for what it's worth.

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Speaker 2: I'm an Illinois and proud in Illinois. But if you

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Speaker 2: can so much is find it in your heart for

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Speaker 2: the rest of the country to police impoor senators in

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Speaker 2: Indiana to vote yes on this bill today, right now

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Speaker 2: as we speak, you'd be doing a great thing for

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Speaker 2: the United States of America. We will be right back

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Speaker 2: on Tony Cats today. I am Mike Coolidge, in for Tony.

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Speaker 3: Stay with us.

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Speaker 2: We are back on Tony Katz today. I am Mike

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01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 2: Coolidge in for Tony Cats. We are live on this

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Speaker 2: crucial day not just for Indiana but for the United

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Speaker 2: States of America, and we're reporting here, I'm reading reporting

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01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 2: here that all Indiana State Senators are now present in

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Speaker 2: the state Capitol and voting on the redistricting bill, or

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Speaker 2: they're there to vote on it. We're in the middle

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01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 2: of speeches right now as I understand it, and there

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01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 2: has not been an official vote yet. When we do

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Speaker 2: the show tomorrow, which we're doing tomorrow, yeah, we have.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the show is going to happen regardless, Like

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Speaker 2: you know, we've even if I'm not here, someone else

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01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 2: will fill in, I'm sure, But as if the schedule

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Speaker 2: is out right now, yours truly will be filling in

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01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:07,799
Speaker 2: for Tony Katz today tomorrow, and we will almost certainly

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01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 2: have a final vote on whether or not Indiana is

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Speaker 2: going to do the right thing, particularly the senators of

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Speaker 2: the Republican side, because if every Republican Senator I understand it,

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Speaker 2: votes for this, it's going to pass, and it's going

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Speaker 2: to be signed by Governor Brown and Indiana will have

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Speaker 2: a plus two to add to Ohio's plus two, to

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01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 2: add to North Carolina's plus one, to add to Missouri's

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01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 2: plus one, to add to Texas's plus five, and Kansas, Tennessee, Alabama,

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Speaker 2: and Georgia could add another two, three, four, five, five,

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Speaker 2: and then Florida coul add another five.

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Speaker 3: That'd be ten.

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Speaker 2: And then you subtract six bike that eight from the Democrats. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Utah plus one, California plus five, Virginia is pending, it's

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Speaker 2: pending gain of plus two. But let's make Indiana not pending.

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Speaker 2: Let's make it red. Let's do what the states of

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Speaker 2: Maine and New Hampshire and all these other states like

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01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 2: Vermont and Hawaii and Delaware, New Mexico and Connecticut and Massachusetts,

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01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:30,680
Speaker 2: all of whom years ago drew it so that no

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Speaker 2: Republican could get elected in there states, even though forty

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01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 2: eight percent of some of those states are Republican, they

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01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 2: have zero representation.

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Speaker 3: Let's do that for Indiana.

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Speaker 2: What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

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Speaker 2: If this is Tony Cats today, I am I cool

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Speaker 2: with Jim for Tony, We'll be right back. We're back

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01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 2: on Tony Katz Today. I am Mike Coolidge in for

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01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 2: Tony Katz. Tony will be back on Monday. I will

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01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 2: be back tomorrow. Oh cool Gae just spelled with a K,

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01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 2: just like cats at koo l I dge. You can

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Speaker 2: find me on x and. Our next guest is a

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Speaker 2: political science professor at Kentucky State University. He's the author

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Speaker 2: of Lies My Liberal Teacher Told Me and Hate Crime Hoax,

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01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 2: and I believe a number of other books. Doctor Wilfred Riley,

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Speaker 2: welcome back onto the radio and welcome on to Tony

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Speaker 2: Kats today.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, glad to be back on. Good to be talking

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Speaker 6: to you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So we have a lot to get to. We

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Speaker 2: wanted to take a break a little bit from the

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Speaker 2: Indiana redistricting talk that we've been talking about for most

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Speaker 2: of the show.

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Speaker 3: Listeners have no fear.

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Speaker 2: If there is news about a vote that happens during

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Speaker 2: this segment, we will break in and give it to you.

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Speaker 2: But as of right now, the senators are speaking, no

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01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 2: one is voting, and there likely won't be a vote

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Speaker 2: until later this evening. So tomorrow show we'll get into

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01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 2: that in depth. But right now, taking a break from that,

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Speaker 2: Doctor Wilfrid Riley. I wanted to have you on to

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01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:11,519
Speaker 2: talk and we will talk about this scandal of epic

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01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 2: proportions in Minnesota, with these Somali refugees and these terrible

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01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 2: government programs they have up there and the just complete

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01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 2: crazy things that they're doing under Tim Walls's watch. But

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Speaker 2: I gotta say you yesterday were name checked by none

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01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:34,719
Speaker 2: other than Elon Musk on your lies. My liberal teacher

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01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:36,960
Speaker 2: told me book have you been name checked by Elon

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Speaker 2: Musk before? On X?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I have a few times.

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Speaker 7: Elon Musk follows me on X, like he apparently followed

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Speaker 7: people that were on some list of innovative thinkers on

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01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 7: the right at one point, and I was pleased to

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Speaker 7: be one of those people. But yeah, Elon Musk follows

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01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:57,639
Speaker 7: me on Twitter. Jd Vance follows me on Twitter. So

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Speaker 7: one of the great things about X and even to

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Speaker 7: a lesser extent in Facebook, Instagram, those kind of platforms

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Speaker 7: is that you can encounter people from all across the spectrum.

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Speaker 6: Like I've argued with.

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Speaker 7: Lebron James about whether he's ever going to be as

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Speaker 7: prominent as Michael Jordan's. I posted like I posted something

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Speaker 7: he I mean, he's a guy from the Midwest and

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01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 7: he set some kind of scoring awards. So I shouted

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Speaker 7: out the second greatest Midwestern basketball player of all time, and.

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Speaker 6: He responded and was like, what the heck are you

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Speaker 6: talking about? Second greatest?

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Speaker 7: I mean, that is one of the things that is

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Speaker 7: fascinating about social media.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, in this case, Elon did respond.

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Speaker 7: He shouted out the book. He said he'd read and

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Speaker 7: liked the book, which I was I was very complimented by,

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Speaker 7: So kudos to big Elon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you listening to this right now should get

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Speaker 2: it too, guys. My liberal teacher told me it's been

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Speaker 2: out for a while, but really really great book. And

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Speaker 2: he was referencing a segment you did with John Stossel

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Speaker 2: about slavery. And by the way, you can follow will

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Speaker 2: Ford Riley ONCT will Underscore Duh Underscore Beast six thirty

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Speaker 2: will the Beast. But just so sure, Wilfred Riley, you

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Speaker 2: will find him. And but you were pointing out how

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Speaker 2: so much of the narrative, particularly over the last three

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Speaker 2: or four years that's being taught in schools about slavery

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Speaker 2: in the United States, partifically with the sixteen nineteen project,

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Speaker 2: is complete. Bunk it's completely made up.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not so much been made up, although I

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Speaker 7: wouldn't disagree with that analysis, but it's it's very, very selective. So,

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Speaker 7: like the great Tom Soul tripleog, Tom Soul at one

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Speaker 7: point said, when the average white person or upper middle

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Speaker 7: class black person thinks about slavery, they think about one

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Speaker 7: really narrow range of time, which is like the oppression

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Speaker 7: of battle captives of West African descent by whites in

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Speaker 7: the USA and Europe, and maybe if they had a

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Speaker 7: very edgy teacher, also by black slave owners in the

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Speaker 7: USA and Europe. And that's a really tiny piece of

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Speaker 7: the picture when it comes to global slavery. So in

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Speaker 7: the book Lies, my liberal teacher told me, and it

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Speaker 7: specifically the first chapters on slavery, and I tried to

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Speaker 7: go even more in depth than sold it. It's like

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Speaker 7: a forty page chapter, but I talk about how slavery

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Speaker 7: is one of the oldest human institutions. And I'm actually

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Speaker 7: a research academic. I teach at the State University. I

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01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:26,680
Speaker 7: don't really think I break any new ground, but I

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01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:29,280
Speaker 7: go back to like Samaria, you know, the Bible, the

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Speaker 7: Israelites very famously were slaves in the Bible, of the

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Speaker 7: Batylonian captivity, of the Paronic captivity, the things you learn

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Speaker 7: about in church that actually occurred. A slave is one

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Speaker 7: of the first ten or twelve human words, and the

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Speaker 7: origins they are actually kind of interesting. Like the word

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Speaker 7: for slave is basically the word for enemy warrior, with

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Speaker 7: a few slight changes made. So when the Samerians, you know,

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Speaker 7: they who wrote on clay, started a recording thing like

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01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 7: how many pigs, how many cattle, so on the king had,

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Speaker 7: they also recorded how many slave girls and how many

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Speaker 7: slave men he had, And the term they used was

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Speaker 7: like people from like the hills, from the mountains, with

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Speaker 7: the addition of something that looked pretty much like a

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Speaker 7: modern shackle on them. It meant people that they'd captured

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Speaker 7: in war. So you see, like the Genesis there like

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Speaker 7: a slave was a defeated enemy, and that went on

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Speaker 7: throughout all time, like the Romans, the gladiators.

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Speaker 6: Were all slaves.

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Speaker 7: You go through the Arabic slave trade, seventeen million taken

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Speaker 7: out of Africa and by the way, Europe that was

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Speaker 7: called the Barbary's slave trade, and you finally get to like,

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Speaker 7: I would never say something like our little slave trade,

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Speaker 7: but you had the sale of slaves by whites when

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Speaker 7: whites were the developed power in the world, which is after.

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Speaker 6: Fourteen ninety two.

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Speaker 7: And at the end of that time you had the

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Speaker 7: dominant powers in the world who were mostly white. You

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Speaker 7: also had the Turks, you had the Chinese. There was

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Speaker 7: a decision to end the institution of slavery in the

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Speaker 7: eighteen hundreds and the British or Navy, aided by the USA,

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Speaker 7: actually patrolled the oce so they were sinking slave ships.

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Speaker 7: There was a very heroic role played by by the

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Speaker 7: western mostly white world, and so there's a real story

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Speaker 7: of slavery there. Like throughout history, this institution existed. This

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Speaker 7: is what you did with captured enemies. Like if the

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Speaker 7: battle was over and you'd lost and you saw like

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Speaker 7: the other guys riding towards you on horses, you knew

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Speaker 7: you were getting on that boat. And finally we said, well, no,

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Speaker 7: you can't do this. Just the fact someone's been defeated.

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Speaker 7: You know, you can beat them a little bit, you

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Speaker 7: can ransom them back, but you can't. You just can't

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Speaker 7: make them work. For eighty years and you began to

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Speaker 7: see an abolitionist movement, and that progressed into the full

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Speaker 7: throated banning of slavery. We banned the slave trade in

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Speaker 7: the USA in eighteen oh eight, but unfortunately, by that

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Speaker 7: point there are already plenty of slaves here, and so

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Speaker 7: that became a major quote unquote house divided issue in

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Speaker 7: the country.

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Speaker 6: And I do my best to talk about all of this.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and obviously we I mean, literal books and encyclopedias

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01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:57,799
Speaker 2: have been written about the Civil War and the issue

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Speaker 2: of slavery in the United States, which ended after the

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Speaker 2: Civil War, you know, a country, it didn't end in

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Speaker 2: you know, there are modern versions of slavery, the type

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Speaker 2: of forced labor and forced marriage, human trafficking, child human trafficking,

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Speaker 2: child labor, forced recruitment into armed groups. As we speak

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, that is still occurring in countries

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Speaker 2: like Somalia, and Somalia has sent many refugees to the

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01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:32,360
Speaker 2: United States since the early nineteen nineties. And fast forward

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01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 2: to this century, and there's this huge scandal about these

1504
01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:43,800
Speaker 2: government programs, and namely I'm reading from some of them here.

1505
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 2: Feeding our Future a Child Nutrition Adult a federal child

1506
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 2: and adult care program for reimbursing meals to low income

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01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:57,600
Speaker 2: kids during COVID, estimated to loss between two hundred and

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01:38:57,600 --> 01:39:03,120
Speaker 2: fifty and three hundred million dollars. These nonprofits posed as

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01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 2: meal sites and they submitted fake invoices for millions of

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01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 2: meals that were never served. There was a house housing

1511
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:17,360
Speaker 2: stabilization service, again, fake companies build for unprovided counseling, case management,

1512
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 2: et cetera, to the tune of one hundred million dollars.

1513
01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 2: Autism and behavioral health services to the tune you know, again,

1514
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 2: fake stuff, ghost appointments, exaggerated hours, two hundred plus million dollars,

1515
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 2: and some other broader welfare and pandemic relief funds. Just

1516
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:38,799
Speaker 2: those four hundred million dollars, we're talking about a grand

1517
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:43,599
Speaker 2: total of one thousand million dollars, also known as one

1518
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:49,560
Speaker 2: billion dollars in stolen taxpayer money in Minnesota.

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01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:50,840
Speaker 3: What the heck is going on there?

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01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:51,080
Speaker 6: Will?

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01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:56,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, So this this Somali scandal, and it's a ninety

1522
01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 7: nine percent Somali scandal. I mean, there are a couple

1523
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 7: of Caucasian girlfriends of guys and so on that we're involved.

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01:40:01,439 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 6: But I mean, this is pretty crazy.

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01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 7: This is one of the This is a Tammany Hall

1526
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:07,760
Speaker 7: level political scandals. I think a lot of people are

1527
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 7: reluctant to touch because of the racial elements. But it's

1528
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:14,719
Speaker 7: really not that complicated route and a lot of political corruption.

1529
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:17,040
Speaker 7: If you look at the old Black and Irish political

1530
01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 7: corruption in Chicago, it really really ain't that complicated. What

1531
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 7: happened here was that Somali's in Minneapolis set up these charities,

1532
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 7: and a lot of them in the beginning were intended

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01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 7: to do good, to treat and help a refugee population.

1534
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:34,160
Speaker 7: By the way, refugee population is a little questionable. I

1535
01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 7: mean when people say they're refugees or asylum seekers from

1536
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:41,680
Speaker 7: wars in places like Somalia or Afghanistan, there's really no

1537
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:44,679
Speaker 7: way to vet which side of the war people even

1538
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:52,880
Speaker 7: fought on. These aren't countries that have laminated IDs with fingerprints.

1539
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 6: In them and so on.

1540
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:58,080
Speaker 7: You know, people standing over a nineteen sixties style paper

1541
01:40:58,200 --> 01:41:03,280
Speaker 7: passport with a distinctive Somali, you'r Afghan looking faced on it?

1542
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:06,840
Speaker 6: Is it you? Is it your cousin? Nobody really knows.

1543
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:09,320
Speaker 7: And I mean, so this is how you get asylum

1544
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:11,639
Speaker 7: seekers who look like fighting men in their twenties, who

1545
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 7: have battle scars, who say their fifteen year old school children,

1546
01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:16,559
Speaker 7: and I'm going to high school in Britain. So I mean,

1547
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:19,559
Speaker 7: I think from a purely a moral perspective, like not

1548
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:23,400
Speaker 7: letting in male warrior age asylum seekers from any of

1549
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:26,439
Speaker 7: these places would be a good, obvious move that might

1550
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:31,480
Speaker 7: apply to Ukraine, it would certainly apply to Somalia, Afghanistan.

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01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 2: And I was going to say, yeah, I mean, I

1552
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:37,720
Speaker 2: have friends who were in Afghanistan who were like, yeah,

1553
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:41,800
Speaker 2: there were some really really great Afghans who assisted the

1554
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:45,280
Speaker 2: US military and doing their job, but like you always

1555
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:49,719
Speaker 2: had to watch your back and look over your shoulder,

1556
01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:54,280
Speaker 2: and you know, some of these guys did switch sides

1557
01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 2: and could easily switch sides in a heartbeat depending on

1558
01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 2: who's paying them. Not the you know, ideal sort of

1559
01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:06,560
Speaker 2: person that you think, you know, there's the type of

1560
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:09,280
Speaker 2: people that should be rebuilding their country, staying in Afghanistan

1561
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:14,200
Speaker 2: and rebuilding their country. Not necessarily people were welcoming into

1562
01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:16,920
Speaker 2: the United States just because they want to come here.

1563
01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:19,640
Speaker 2: Like most immigrants who come to the United States, you

1564
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 2: have to go through a very you know, specific process.

1565
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:27,040
Speaker 2: You have to show that you are educated and that

1566
01:42:27,080 --> 01:42:30,000
Speaker 2: you have some skills, and that you are not a

1567
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:32,840
Speaker 2: criminal or you have, you know, have any sort of

1568
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:37,360
Speaker 2: record of hurting human beings, And in getting back to

1569
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:40,439
Speaker 2: the Somalia situation, in a place like that, you said,

1570
01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:43,000
Speaker 2: there's no record keeping stuff. We're just taking their word

1571
01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 2: that some of these people are are not criminals.

1572
01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:48,200
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1573
01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:50,040
Speaker 7: I think that's correct, and I am going to get

1574
01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:52,599
Speaker 7: into what specifically the charities do, but yeah, a good

1575
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:56,320
Speaker 7: comparison to Afghanistan might be like the more powerful Native

1576
01:42:56,320 --> 01:42:59,880
Speaker 7: American Indian tribes that fought with the white settlers when

1577
01:42:59,880 --> 01:43:03,080
Speaker 7: we were moving west, where in some years the tribe

1578
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:04,920
Speaker 7: would fight with you, in some years they would fight

1579
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:08,679
Speaker 7: against you, and they were like brave, honorable men. People

1580
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:11,200
Speaker 7: loved their Indian allies, their books written about them, but

1581
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 7: they were also capable of some.

1582
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:13,800
Speaker 6: Pretty striking tortures.

1583
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:17,080
Speaker 7: It took them centuries to adapt to kind of the

1584
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:17,840
Speaker 7: Western way of.

1585
01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 6: Life that was coming in.

1586
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:22,599
Speaker 7: A very high percentage of people were illiterate this kind

1587
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:25,160
Speaker 7: of thing. So yeah, I mean when when the five

1588
01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:27,719
Speaker 7: civilized tribes and all that settled down first in North

1589
01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 7: Carolina then in Oklahoma, they became great contributing Americans, but

1590
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:34,040
Speaker 7: that took a long time. And that's going to be

1591
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:37,160
Speaker 7: the same thing when as Afghanistan developed as a country.

1592
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 7: If you just take young fighting men from Afghanistan now

1593
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:42,640
Speaker 7: and move them to like Riley Durham, yeah, you're going

1594
01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:45,680
Speaker 7: to have all kinds of issues. But anyway, the charities, in.

1595
01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 2: Many charities, let's get to that started Yeah, no, it.

1596
01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:51,559
Speaker 7: Was my ultaminton, but they were just set up as charities.

1597
01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:55,519
Speaker 7: What they really just started doing was lying. So there

1598
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:57,639
Speaker 7: were a group of doctors that would diagnose your kid

1599
01:43:57,680 --> 01:44:00,360
Speaker 7: with autism, and Somali parents became a way of this,

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01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:02,840
Speaker 7: and it was again ninety nine percent Somalis. So they

1601
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:04,880
Speaker 7: would just go in, they'd give the guy some box chiefs,

1602
01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:06,320
Speaker 7: and they would say, hey, diagnose.

1603
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:06,719
Speaker 6: My kid with autism.

1604
01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:10,440
Speaker 7: And the reason for this is that there's a Minnesota

1605
01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:13,240
Speaker 7: program that's a very high trust society that's the big

1606
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:17,080
Speaker 7: Swedes up there. So there's a two thousand dollars payment

1607
01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:18,400
Speaker 7: or whatever if your kid has autism.

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01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:19,080
Speaker 6: They'll just they.

1609
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:21,280
Speaker 7: Assume it's slightly harder to be the housewife or whatnot.

1610
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 7: And so almost all of the Somalis in some neighborhoods

1611
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:28,560
Speaker 7: were getting this payment, and Minneapolis city records show that

1612
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:31,240
Speaker 7: the amount of money paid out for autistic children went

1613
01:44:31,240 --> 01:44:33,160
Speaker 7: from three million to four hundred ninety nine million.

1614
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:38,080
Speaker 2: It was three million to four hundred and ninety nine million.

1615
01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:40,759
Speaker 2: In that's a pretty big increase.

1616
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, because there are one hundred thousand I believe

1617
01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:49,719
Speaker 7: Somali residents of Minneapolis and Rochester just the cities themselves.

1618
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:52,640
Speaker 7: And again I assume many of the working class Caucasian

1619
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:55,720
Speaker 7: girlfriends by this points on. So like every kid in

1620
01:44:55,760 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 7: these these relationships was autistic. It's a twenty seven Some

1621
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:02,599
Speaker 7: of these numbers might be off by a percentage point

1622
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:04,040
Speaker 7: or two, but not more than that. It was a

1623
01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:07,840
Speaker 7: twenty seven percentage something like that rate of autism, meaning

1624
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 7: that most boys over a certain age threshold were technically autistic.

1625
01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:13,920
Speaker 7: And if you're familiar with the Shiloh Hendricks case where

1626
01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:16,559
Speaker 7: there was a scuffle in a part between this white

1627
01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:19,760
Speaker 7: lady and this smiley guy, one of the things that

1628
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:22,800
Speaker 7: was brought up when they were kind of shouting ugly

1629
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:26,720
Speaker 7: words at each other was, well, she offended against a

1630
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 7: kid who was autistic. And it was kind of one

1631
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:31,759
Speaker 7: of those like do you know or do you not know? Things,

1632
01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 7: because if you don't know, it's sort of like, well, okay,

1633
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:36,160
Speaker 7: that definitely puts her over the line. She's in the

1634
01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:38,960
Speaker 7: worst she's the worst person in the fight. If you

1635
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:40,400
Speaker 7: do know, you're kind of like, I don't know, I

1636
01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:43,400
Speaker 7: don't know if that changes anything. I mean, aren't all

1637
01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:46,840
Speaker 7: the kids technically in a kind of Lake Wobegone sense

1638
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:49,559
Speaker 7: right now? So there's an element of humor to this.

1639
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:51,240
Speaker 7: The reality.

1640
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:55,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean there's a huge rate.

1641
01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:59,240
Speaker 7: There's an enormous frequency of autism diagnosis in the city

1642
01:45:59,320 --> 01:45:59,799
Speaker 7: right now.

1643
01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:00,280
Speaker 6: Because of this.

1644
01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:03,719
Speaker 7: The other charity Feeding Our Future, what they were doing

1645
01:46:04,280 --> 01:46:08,960
Speaker 7: was during COVID. They were saying they were serving community meals.

1646
01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:10,639
Speaker 7: Remember like masked outdoors.

1647
01:46:10,680 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 3: We're back on Tony Kats today, running out of time.

1648
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:18,479
Speaker 2: But Will Riley, Kentucky State University's a's my liberal teacher

1649
01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:22,160
Speaker 2: told me, will there be come up for this Somali

1650
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:25,280
Speaker 2: scandal in Minnesota?

1651
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 7: Well, I mean it's like the old line about war crimes,

1652
01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:28,639
Speaker 7: like family do a really good job of.

1653
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:29,759
Speaker 6: Prosecuting the privates.

1654
01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:33,160
Speaker 7: I think that the people in charge of the charities

1655
01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:35,200
Speaker 7: are going down. I think a lot more people knew

1656
01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:38,280
Speaker 7: about this than we we know.

1657
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:40,240
Speaker 6: I mean, like ilhan Omar has.

1658
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:42,120
Speaker 7: Gone to dinner with the people who ran these charities.

1659
01:46:42,160 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 7: I don't think that's the coincident, you know. Yeah, And

1660
01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:47,320
Speaker 7: I think I think, I think a lot of these guys,

1661
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 7: Jacob bray knew what was going on. I don't think

1662
01:46:49,320 --> 01:46:51,600
Speaker 7: anyone like that is going to be charged with misdemeanors

1663
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:53,679
Speaker 7: or felonies for associating with these people.

1664
01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:56,120
Speaker 2: I think people are going to keep prison all right,

1665
01:46:56,640 --> 01:46:58,040
Speaker 2: Tony Kats today, We'll be back tomorrow.

1666
01:46:58,120 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 3: People