1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm getting a shirt made. 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 2: You are what kind of shirt? What are you talking about? 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: I gotta give full credit to our pal Indie reporter. 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: He came up with the slogan and I said, I'm 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: going with it. 6 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: You got a personal stylist. 7 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: It says ron voyage because after yesterday the governor of 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: the state of Indiana Donzo Oh. 9 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 10 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. 11 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: The pressure is escalating, is it not. 12 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: This is pathetic. I mean, this is like there's always 13 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: the thing that's happening in our Look, our job in 14 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: this business, by this Kennel Casey, John Rob that's Casey. 15 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: Our job is to kind of break, you know, simplify 16 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: all the stuff that's going down for you the audience, 17 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: but also make it relatable. And you know, in your 18 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: in your life, as you watch your parents get older 19 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: or maybe a grandparent get older, you watch people decline, right, 20 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: and there comes a moment a lot of times where 21 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: it's obvious whatever thing they're in or thing they're doing, 22 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: they just can't do that right. And so for most 23 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: of whether it's our parents or grandparents, Yeah, it doesn't 24 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: mean they're bad health, it doesn't mean they're you know, right, like, 25 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that you need to put them in 26 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: a nursing home. It just means they they just can't 27 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: do things they once did. 28 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 3: I think about my mom when I visited her and 29 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 3: she said that she was leaving the iron on accidentally, 30 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 3: and we. 31 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 2: Said, maybe it's time to stop ironing your clothes. 32 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: Then you know, you're just just like somebody's gonna watch 33 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: this person more than they did. And that's what it 34 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: felt like yesterday with Braun, where it's this kind of 35 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: defeated old guy who is totally in over his head. 36 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: He has a long standing habit of writing checks with 37 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: his mouth that his actions can't cash. He just went 38 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: through this six months ago with his signature issue of 39 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: the campaign, which is property taxes. He failed miserably at that, 40 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: and now here he is trying to do it again, 41 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: he's getting basically the same result. Only unlike with us, 42 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: where he was just screwing the people with his failure, 43 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: now in his mind he's screwing Donald Trump because it 44 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: seems like he has told Trump he is capable of 45 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: doing things he is not the same way as he 46 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: told me in the summer of twenty four he was 47 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: capable of doing things he was not. And now yesterday, 48 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: instead of just like graciously accepting defeat, he now is 49 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: coming off as I will not be the Glenn Close. 50 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: I will not be ignored. 51 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: Dan Carol attraction. 52 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: Yes, fatal attraction, thank you. And we and Rod Bray 53 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: now we are seeing in which Mike Brawn is Glenn 54 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: Close and Rod Bray is Michael Douglas. And now we're 55 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: just like watching this pathetically sad, pleading, begging, false threading 56 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: the General Assembly. And it's like, give it up, Grandpa, 57 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: it's over. 58 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, he said that he's going to explore new ways 59 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 3: to compel the Indiana Republican Senators to act on the 60 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 3: early Congressional redoul. 61 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 2: What's he going to do? 62 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: Arrest them? 63 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: What's he gonna do the. 64 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: Work? See, this is the problem. Like it's like, Grandpa's 65 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: not process again. What did I say? 66 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 4: Right? 67 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: Like it doesn't mean he should be in a home, 68 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: but he shouldn't be on this stage because they're not 69 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: in special session anymore. Yesterday was the beginning of the 70 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: regular session. So any leverage he might have had, I mean, 71 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: they played him masterfully. They they drug it out. Yeah, 72 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: drug trying to play out the clock. And then they said, 73 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: once Brun calls a special session, they being the leadership 74 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: of the General Assembly. Like one of my favorite things 75 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: about this is Todd Houston, the Speaker of the House, 76 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: is trying to come up as a good guy and 77 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: all this like, well the House says, the votes were 78 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: ready to go to Bubbam. 79 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: Is it a good cup? Bad cop? 80 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: Rod Bray and Todd Houston, the Flanders boys, they share 81 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: a brain and a heart and all other vital functioning organs. 82 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: They are not They are totally working together on everything. 83 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: There's no way they're not in some path to co 84 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: on this. And yet Braun. So those two guys strung 85 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: this thing out for a month. They Braun calls the 86 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: special session first November, which Braun did that to himself 87 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: by dragging this thing out. He should have just ripped 88 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: the band aid off months ago if he was going 89 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: to do it. And then they say, okay, yeah, we'll 90 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: see it first of December. And now Rod Bray is like, well, 91 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: you're not in charge anymore, are you, mister Braun, because 92 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: session has begun. I'm the captain of this ship now 93 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: and we ain't coming back. 94 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: So here's Todd Houston telling everybody that they need to 95 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 3: keep their first two weeks clear for potential business, and I. 96 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 5: Would remind members that we are still under the timeline 97 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 5: of the special session. I haven't informed the House Repolk 98 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 5: and Caucus that I would keep the first two I 99 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 5: would continue to keep the first two weeks of December 100 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 5: clear on your calendars for potential business. 101 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: Okay, So what nobody's answered, though, is how can you 102 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: be in a special session if you've started the session. 103 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: That's what ORG day is, So that doesn't look This 104 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: ultimately rests with Mike Braun because Mike Braun and we 105 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: found this out the hard way. So just when you're 106 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: hearing my voice right now, this is from experience. Mike 107 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: Braun is not a leader. He's not really a fighter. 108 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: He is a guy who essentially used his immense wealth 109 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: to buy a US Senate seat, which then he was 110 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: able to spin off into being governor of the state 111 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: of Indiana. Mike Braun tries to cast himself as an outsider. 112 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: If you look at his career arc, he's a total 113 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: insider politician. He went the way so many of them do, 114 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: school board, state house, state's a US Senate governor, right. 115 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: He's a total institutionalist, and he's not capable of delivering 116 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: because the General Assembly, especially the leadership, views him and 117 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: his wacky goofy Lieutenant Governor as an unserious joke, and 118 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: so he keeps trying to strong arm these guys with 119 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: zero cards, with zero level, and he's making himself look stupid. 120 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: So the Senate voted twenty nine to eighteen to return 121 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 3: on January fifth, and so Bray is saying, no, we're 122 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 3: going to do what we want to do now. The 123 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: Governor was on with Hammer and Nigel yesterday and they 124 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 3: asked him his thoughts on what Bray is doing, and 125 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 3: Kevin clip number four if you could grab that, because. 126 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: He sounded like he was getting a little spicy. 127 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 3: He was a little irritated but at the same time 128 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: a little bit intimidated by Donald Trump. It was a 129 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 3: really interesting arc because he started out really strong and 130 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 3: then he was like, but you got to do what 131 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: the president wants to do. So here is the Governor 132 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 3: talking about Bray. 133 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 4: I would be more concerned about what you're doing when 134 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 4: the President of the United States calls you out for 135 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 4: something that he's made very clear that he wants to 136 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 4: get it done, and I think is probably more troublesome 137 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 4: when it would be what his future is like. And 138 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 4: today was a lot of action, you know, or day 139 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 4: and as we were talking earlier, and I don't think 140 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 4: he knew that, but the House is coming back to 141 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 4: do maps and they're coming in so they're going to 142 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 4: be sending something over to the Senate. And then a 143 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 4: rebuke of half his caucus when they had that vote 144 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 4: on whether to come back or not, and he had 145 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 4: to get Democrats to go along with him to have 146 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 4: the vote scheduled or to come back into session in January. 147 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 4: So nineteen we're on the roll call against him, and 148 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 4: another senator didn't make the roll call vote that said 149 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 4: he would. So that's half of his caucus. 150 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, this word salad, right, Like that's okay. 151 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: First of all, Donald Trump's not a king. He's the 152 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: President of the United States. And the fact that we're 153 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: somehow subservient to him here in Indiana, that is a like, 154 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: that's ridiculous, and it's bizarre that the governor of our 155 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: state believes he's subservient to the president of the United States. 156 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: Like that's super weird and should be a giant red 157 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: flag to everybody. The second part of this is the 158 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: like at this point, the just the mental gymnastics. He's 159 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: doing well. Almost half of his caucus was against him, Yeah, 160 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: and more than half of his caucus was for him. 161 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: You couldn't even win amongst the Republicans, mister governor once 162 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,599 Speaker 1: as when you factor in the rest of this of 163 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: the Senate, like it was this like just the bizarre. 164 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: I will compel you or I'm pondering compelling like get 165 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: a life, dude, And I keep coming back to that. 166 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: He can't he can't fathom the idea of why people 167 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: would be upset with him that if you'd have done 168 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: this on property taxes, you would be a hero and 169 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: there would be so many people right now who would 170 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: be behind you who are not because they would say, 171 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: this guy is a fighter, he does care about us. 172 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: This is about us. 173 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: But Mike Brount proved it's not about us. It's not 174 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: about the people. It's about him. It's about his party. 175 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 1: And as he as he said yesterday, this is about 176 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. And people get that and go, well, let 177 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 1: I'm out, because it supposed to be on me. The 178 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: governments to be about helping me. It's about creating an 179 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: environment for me to thrive. And all the government here 180 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: in this state appears to be about is the donors, 181 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: the lobbyists, the power brokers, the party and now the 182 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: President of the United States. 183 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 3: Okay, so yesterday during that Hammer and Nigel interview, they 184 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 3: did ask him why the battle for this but not 185 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 3: for property taxes? 186 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 4: So the battle was picked by the president in terms 187 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 4: of doing it, and Texas did it, Missouri did it, 188 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 4: North Carolina did it. So you should be able to 189 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 4: put two and two together there, and they asked us 190 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 4: to do it. And it was probably three months ago, 191 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 4: and we were picking him off in a way that 192 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 4: had an organic process to it. Time became an issue 193 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 4: when I saw that Bray looked like he was going 194 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 4: to try to run out the clock. That is when 195 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 4: I decided to call a special session because at that 196 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 4: point both the White House and our accounting showed us 197 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 4: at twenty one to twenty two senators, fourteen public, six 198 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 4: or seven private. Yes, that is the move that he 199 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 4: made that I think was a mistake because he thought 200 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 4: by not doing it, he then could delay it or 201 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 4: it doesn't get done. That is what irritated the President. 202 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 4: It irritated me and picking the battle on property taxes. 203 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 4: Got to remember that was SB one. Then he and 204 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 4: his leadership team gutted it, so we had to spend 205 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 4: three months to get it back to where it was one. 206 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 2: We got to go to a break. 207 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a brain hemorrhage during the break, and 208 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna put this guy in his place because 209 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: I've had enough of him. And that right there is 210 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: why this thing's gonna fail. And it all comes back 211 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: to the same thing. Casey, he the governor of this state, 212 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: is an habitual liar. He would not know the truth 213 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: if it smacked him right between the eyes.