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Speaker 1: Live from Vaal Hartberd and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. So it really is a question.

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Speaker 1: About what the future of the relationship looks like. I'm

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Speaker 1: not just talking about the United States and Israel, though

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Speaker 1: I guess that's a question for a lot of people

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Speaker 1: what does the relationship look like for Israel and the

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Speaker 1: rest of the Middle East, or for the Middle East,

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Speaker 1: the rest of the Middle East and Israel. Exactly how

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Speaker 1: does this work once you have an Islamic regime gone?

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Speaker 1: And it very much seems like the Islamic regime that

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Speaker 1: has been running around will be gone. Tony Katz, Tony

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Speaker 1: Katz today, Good to be here, Good to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Lord stro Meyer joins me right now, the Council General

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Speaker 1: of Israel to the Midwest.

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Speaker 2: He is based in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen years in the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Sara,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking the time to be with us today.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with some of the basics we know about,

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Speaker 1: of course, the start of this last week. We are now,

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Speaker 1: depending on how you look at these things, nine or

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Speaker 1: ten days in the IDF has engaged in a tremendous

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Speaker 1: number of targetings, over six hundred targets.

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Speaker 2: When we're talking.

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Speaker 1: About just in Lebanon having to deal with Hesbil, and

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Speaker 1: never mind everything that has been taken out in around

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Speaker 1: including as of some of the latest reporting, even where

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Speaker 1: oil stores are kept the latest as Israel is letting

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Speaker 1: us know about it. From these attacks, how are things

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Speaker 1: going and what do they see as the future of

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Speaker 1: these attacks? How long will this go on?

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Johny for having me on the show,

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Speaker 3: and thank you everyone for listening. I want to say

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Speaker 3: that everything is going according to plan. We're on the

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Speaker 3: second week of this operation led by the United States

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Speaker 3: together with Israel.

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Speaker 4: Great success far.

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Speaker 3: Everything is going like we planted, taking down the threat

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Speaker 3: from this Iranian regime, taking down the threat to the

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Speaker 3: United States, taking down the threat to Israel, to the

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Speaker 3: Middle East, and to the Iranian people. We need to remember,

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Speaker 3: for forty seven years, we had a murderous Iranian regime

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Speaker 3: that killed thousands of Americans either directly or indirectly through

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Speaker 4: They killed thousands of Israelis.

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Speaker 3: Just in the last few months, they killed at least

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Speaker 3: better life and be freed from the oppressive resigime.

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Speaker 4: And we're determined right now to move forward.

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Speaker 3: To eliminate this regime threat, its nuclear capabilities, its ballistic

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Speaker 4: Around the Middle East and around.

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Speaker 3: The world, and to create the conditions for the people

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Speaker 1: So that conversation is the same conversation that President Trump

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Speaker 1: had in his remot on Choose Social which is to

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Speaker 1: say that it is not regime change, but rather setting

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Speaker 2: I see it a little differently, even though I am wholly.

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Speaker 1: Supportive that I do, and I have just so for

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Speaker 1: your edification, referred to it as such as regime change

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Speaker 1: and the removing of this Islamic regime. But it is

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Speaker 1: true I do agree that the people now need to

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Speaker 1: lot of people will say, okay, you've mentioned the nuclear threat.

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Speaker 1: Well that's what the attack was back in July, taking

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Speaker 1: there always seems to be a conversation. They will argue

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Speaker 1: in the social media circles in other places about this threat.

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Speaker 1: Is the threat because there was an Islamic regime? Or

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Speaker 4: It's both.

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Speaker 3: It's actually both because first and foremost we had intelligence

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Speaker 4: And their ballistic missiles program.

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Speaker 3: But I said, it's connected because this regime has continued

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Speaker 4: You know, we're talking about the ballistic missiles.

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Speaker 3: And when I talk about exporting terrorism, it seems to

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Speaker 3: last ceasefire. They gave one point two billion dollars to

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Speaker 4: This is a.

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Speaker 3: Regime that needs to go away and the people, anyone,

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Speaker 1: Talking to a lot Stromayer, Council General of Israel to

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Speaker 1: with us the Israel US relationship. You mentioned that this

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Speaker 1: But how much of this was Israel saying this is

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Speaker 1: what they're doing, versus the United States telling Israel, this

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Speaker 3: It was again, it was both both of us. We

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Speaker 3: shared the intelligence. We were in close collaboration. The President

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Speaker 3: We've seen the row intelligence and the intentions of this

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Speaker 3: that we had a very narrow window of opportunity to act.

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Speaker 3: The United States and Israel saw that intelligence, saw that realization,

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Speaker 3: time to act. The collaboration is so close. And you

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Speaker 3: even joining the Forum Service, I've never seen such close collaboration.

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Speaker 3: It's unprecedented the level of cooperation that our two countries

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Speaker 1: You talk about the closeness now, is that to then

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Speaker 1: If a prior president had been willing to take out

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a theoretical question that it's difficult to answer.

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Speaker 3: The relationship between Israel and the United States were always close.

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Speaker 3: Now is that we are in full agreement about the

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Speaker 3: Meaning this regime needs to end so that the people

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Speaker 1: Talking to a Lord stro Meyer, Council General of Israel

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Speaker 1: The Poland doesn't tell a great story. Social media certainly

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Speaker 1: What we have seen throughout America has been a larger, larger,

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Speaker 1: We still argue that the relationship is solid. Do is

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Speaker 3: You know, first of all, I don't believe everything I

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Speaker 4: So we should take everything with a grain of salt.

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Speaker 3: Now, I cannot argue with numbers, and I understand what

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Speaker 3: and despite some hurdles and some challenges, the relationship are strong.

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Speaker 3: Because there is also an element that people might disagree

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Speaker 4: And I believe.

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Speaker 3: That when we're successful right now after this operation with

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Speaker 3: the opinions of people will change as well.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the future in America.

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Speaker 1: You have people on the left and on certain parts

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Speaker 2: Keep it here.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. I don't

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying this because it's on my mind. The

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Speaker 2: That's what you love, dude. This is what's.

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Speaker 2: That's how this guy comes across. This is genuine. It's

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Speaker 1: Keep it here, This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 6: But I want everyone to know your military is getting

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Speaker 2: And we could not agree more, just could not agree more.

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Speaker 1: Secretary Marco Rubio I engaged in a very clear conversation.

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Speaker 1: When he is given the task, he can engage the task,

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 1: And now I do think it sets up the fight

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Speaker 7: black or white, when you need public services, when you

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Speaker 7: need your police officers, when you need your firefighters, when

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Speaker 7: you need those G and T specialists, we make it

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Speaker 7: and we try hard to make it so that everybody

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Speaker 7: who needs something in that critical moment has.

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Speaker 2: Access to it.

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Speaker 1: Now, what's going to happen here is that the left

449
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Speaker 1: is going to scream, you see, socialism works.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they're all so dopey.

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Speaker 1: A fire department is not socialism, ladies and gentlemen. A

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Speaker 1: fire department is as capitalist as anything I can think of.

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Speaker 1: Well tony, it's it's it's a government entity and and

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Speaker 1: and you pay them, and they they are there.

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Speaker 2: To you know, on the government dimeside.

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Speaker 1: It's not capitalism, it's it's it's government control.

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Speaker 2: And you need a strong central government to make that happen.

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Speaker 1: Fire departments exist to protect private property from destroying other

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Speaker 1: private property.

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Speaker 2: What am I the first person to say it like that.

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Speaker 1: I don't say that they don't have other jobs. I

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Speaker 1: don't say they don't protect public property. They don't protect

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Speaker 1: a park, they don't protect wildlife or or forests or earning.

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Speaker 1: The objective of the fire department is to prevent the

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Speaker 1: loss of life and the loss of property. And that

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Speaker 1: kids is as capitalist as one can think. Now does

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Speaker 1: it match my definition of what capitalism is? Capitalism is

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Speaker 1: people living their lives to the moments of their happiness

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Speaker 1: without the concept of acceptance.

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't go any further than that.

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Speaker 1: You choose your course, you choose your path, you choose

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Speaker 1: how hard you want to work, You.

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Speaker 2: Choose when the moment is you know what I'm done here?

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Speaker 2: That's capitalism.

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Speaker 1: You can argue it's just well, this very simple kind

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Speaker 1: of economic sys to no, I'm not going.

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Speaker 2: To tell you no.

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Speaker 1: And you could argue that capitalism is terrible, and I'll

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Speaker 1: say to you, okay, but it's better than everything else

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Speaker 1: out there. It's terrible, and it's still the best choice.

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Speaker 1: So what are we talking about? But people never accept

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Speaker 1: the idea that what capitalism is truly about is choosing

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Speaker 1: your own course and choosing when.

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Speaker 2: You've had enough.

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Speaker 1: I've often used as my example who is happier, who

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Speaker 1: is more successful?

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Speaker 2: The guy who teaches.

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Speaker 1: Ski lessons and veil who lives in the studio apartment,

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Speaker 1: or the BioMed ceo who has millions in the bank,

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Speaker 1: drives whatever it is your favorite luxury car is, and

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Speaker 1: has the twelve thousand square foot home.

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Speaker 2: How would I know? How is it possible that I

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Speaker 2: would know?

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Speaker 1: Capitalism allows both of those people to exist. Good people

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Speaker 1: choosing their own course, choosing their own design, choosing how

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Speaker 1: they it is they want to move forward, choosing the

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Speaker 1: moments of their happiness. I say, bravisimo, this is good.

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Speaker 1: Why would anybody want anything else? It is too weird

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Speaker 1: for words, way too weird for words. This is what

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Speaker 1: you want. What fire departments do? They save lives? Of course,

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Speaker 1: they save lives. It's unbelievable. Is a rare breed of people.

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Speaker 1: But saving the lives and protecting property. Protecting lives and

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Speaker 1: protecting property capitalism.

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Speaker 2: Because no one is better off. If your neighbor's house

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Speaker 2: is on fire and we just let it burn, no

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Speaker 2: one is better off.

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Speaker 1: Because that fire can spread to your house or my house,

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Speaker 1: and no one is better off do you think anybody

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Speaker 1: was better off with the madness in the Palisades in California?

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Speaker 1: When Los Angeles County and the Governor Gavin Newsom simply

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Speaker 1: refused through ineptitude to do anything about these fires. They

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Speaker 1: were inempt incapable. They were blanking morons, schmucks, losers tools.

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Speaker 1: They hate the people of California. They hate the people

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Speaker 1: of Los Angeles. And now all these months of not

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Speaker 1: a year later, they won't even let those people rebuild.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna steal that land from them and put on

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Speaker 1: I don't know, mixed use or low income this, or

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Speaker 1: a bunch of nonsense garbage. They're going to through leg

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Speaker 1: through the not just the legislation, through the regulatory environments.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna steal that land from people because people are

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Speaker 1: just gonna give up because this government's too damn hard

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Speaker 1: to work with.

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Speaker 2: That's California now.

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Speaker 1: Capitalism not interested strong fire department actually fighting the fire. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's what you want in every way, that's what you want,

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Speaker 1: protecting property, protecting lives. Let's do it the other way,

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Speaker 1: protecting lives and protecting property, because the lives are indeed

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Speaker 1: more important. Capitalism is good Capitalism works, and what these

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Speaker 1: lefties want to put together, it doesn't work. The fire

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Speaker 1: department doesn't work when the lefties are in charge.

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Speaker 2: The Palisades proves it.

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Speaker 1: You need people who believe in capitalism, believe in private

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Speaker 1: property and private property rights, who believe that we should

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Speaker 1: protect life.

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Speaker 2: You need those people to be in.

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Speaker 1: Charge in order to make sure you've got the services

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Speaker 1: that mean we are going to be safe and secure.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much more obvious it can be.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 8: When you shut down the strait of her moves, whether

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Speaker 8: by closure de facto or deia, right, the baseline is

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Speaker 8: that it is ships are not crossing so for very

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Speaker 8: very few, and you have a disruption somewhere in the

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Speaker 8: ten million barrel of oil plus jet fuel and diesel

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Speaker 8: and other refined products. Then oil prices are priced.

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Speaker 2: Today I think still even maybe a little bit complacently.

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Speaker 8: This is the biggest shortage and energy crisis we've had

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Speaker 8: in global history. So I think these prices now start compounding.

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Speaker 8: In other words, we'll close it around. Let's say today

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Speaker 8: will be somewhere at around one hundred dollars. But I

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Speaker 8: think with the conditions on the ground. Without a change,

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Speaker 8: this gets worse and worse because of that compounding effect

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Speaker 8: of loss of both transport of crude, the production of

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Speaker 8: crude starts slowing, and the refined products.

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Speaker 1: Now, I'm going to take the words of a former

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Speaker 1: Biden energy advisor with a great of salt. I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to pretend that there isn't an issue regarding oil,

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Speaker 1: because that would be insane. Tony Kats, Tony Kats today,

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Speaker 1: good to be here, Good to be with you. This

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Speaker 1: is about the Straits of Hormuz. And if you have

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Speaker 1: never taken a look at a map, it's important.

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Speaker 2: You need to.

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Speaker 1: You need to see what it is that you're dealing

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Speaker 1: with the Straits of Hormuz in this area between Iran

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Speaker 1: and Oman and the UAE. It's this little hump that

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Speaker 1: connects the Persian Gulf to the Gulf.

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Speaker 2: Of Oman and then into the Arabian Sea.

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Speaker 1: And that's the little I called it hump round about

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Speaker 1: whatever you want to call the thing, a little jut

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Speaker 1: out that all these oil tankers have to navigate. They

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Speaker 1: have to go around this, and Iran because of the war,

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Speaker 1: is really making that very very very difficult and you've

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Speaker 1: got blockages, and what you have are a lot of

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Speaker 1: ships that simply they're afraid to go around it. They're

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Speaker 1: afraid to move through it. They don't want to get destroyed.

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Speaker 1: Trump is saying, what are you talking about. We've destroyed

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Speaker 1: the navy. They can't do anything. They still have some

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Speaker 1: missile launchers and there's real concern. So, as I've been saying,

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Speaker 1: I think there's only three ways this is handled. This

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Speaker 1: is handled by the absolute obliteration of the Iranian regime,

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Speaker 1: the killing of the Ayatola's son. Because Komane's son is

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Speaker 1: now in charge, he's now the new leader. Mushtabamj Taba

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Speaker 1: has been named the new Supreme leader, a hardliner like

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Speaker 1: his father, close to the IRGC, and so expect more

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Speaker 1: of the same. He has to go too, because no

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Speaker 1: part of the regime can remain. If Trump wants victory

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Speaker 1: and wants to be able to claim victory, I mean

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Speaker 1: sure they could leave right now and say, oh, look,

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Speaker 1: we've got victory. The first rule of TRUMPSM as Trump wins.

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Speaker 1: The second rule of TRUMPSM is that a deal can

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Speaker 1: always be made as long as that it hears to

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Speaker 1: the first rule of Trump ism. Of course Trump could

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Speaker 1: just say all right, it's done, it's over. We did

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Speaker 1: our job, Okay, Israel clean up the rest nanks that

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Speaker 1: could happen. I just don't think it's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: So you either take out the full regime and so

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Speaker 1: there's nothing less than the left and the IRGC is

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Speaker 1: broken and gone. You send in military assets into the

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Speaker 1: Gulf of Oman to protect these tankers coming through the straits,

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Speaker 1: or as I see it, you look to Venezuela and

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Speaker 1: you say, you know what, it's time for you to

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Speaker 1: start really pumping. Yeah, yeah, we'll replace you too, Delsa Rodriguez.

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Speaker 1: It is time to get aggressive on the pumping.

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Speaker 2: Make it happen. You know what, We'll send in our

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Speaker 2: guys will make it happen. That's that's that's what we'll do.

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Speaker 1: So these are these are the three moves, right, the

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Speaker 1: three moments that are that are possible. And one of

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Speaker 1: those three has to happen. Maybe all three have to happen.

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Speaker 1: But I say to you that what we're seeing, you

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Speaker 1: know when when you've got there was a moment where

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Speaker 1: Brent Crude over the weekend was four maybe that did Friday.

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Speaker 1: It was like one hundred and twenty something dollars a barrel,

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Speaker 1: and and West Texas crewed wasn't very far behind that,

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Speaker 1: literally pennies behind that. And for you know, most part

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Speaker 1: of the morning day it was one hundred dollars a barrel.

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Speaker 1: Well gases up to three forty three dollars and forty

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Speaker 1: cents on average. I thought it'd be three ten on

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Speaker 1: average across the country. So it jumped up more than

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Speaker 1: I thought it would. Okay, can America take it? Can

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Speaker 1: it handle it?

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Speaker 2: Will it there?

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Speaker 1: The the left is going to bet that they could

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Speaker 1: turn this into a Look what Trump did and it's

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Speaker 1: a legal war.

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Speaker 2: And now we're think oil prices go up and gas

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Speaker 2: prices go up.

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Speaker 1: Trump is just too terrible. Trump's argument is, and he

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Speaker 1: put this out on truth Social this is short. This

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Speaker 1: is all very very short. This is what we do.

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Speaker 1: This everything will drop once we win. It's a small

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Speaker 1: price to pay for the USA and world safety and peace.

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Speaker 1: I happen to agree with that. Now Trump has to

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Speaker 1: go sell that. You gotta go out there and say

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Speaker 1: that this makes sense. This was about America's safety and security.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is with these woke right

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Speaker 1: Tucker people and these left wing freaks that want a

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Speaker 1: RAND to be able to just attack us at will

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Speaker 1: for the next one hundred years. But that is no

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Speaker 1: way for us to live. We shouldn't have to endure that.

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Speaker 1: They have to be ended, and we're not gonna let

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Speaker 1: them get a nuclear weapon. So we ended them. It

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Speaker 1: was the smart, right thing to do. Oil prices will

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Speaker 1: come down. Everybody, get on board. This is what winning

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Speaker 1: looks like. You might not be used to it, but

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Speaker 1: that's what we do now. I think that is a

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Speaker 1: winning message.

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Speaker 2: Can he sell it? Well, let's find out. Find everything

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Speaker 2: at Tony kats dot com tomorrow. Everyone, take care