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Speaker 3: The Frames per Second Podcast. What up everybody?
Speaker 4: And welcome to another episode of the France second Podcast.
Speaker 4: My name is Kenniz Beyan joining him on the show,
Speaker 4: I got Mike and Rod whatever, y'all.
Speaker 1: What's up man?
Speaker 4: We are here to review the new movie Frankenstein by uh,
Speaker 4: how do you say his name?
Speaker 3: Gilmor thorough.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did Shape of Water. I he won for that?
Speaker 1: Actually yeah, hands Labyrinth Devil's back.
Speaker 3: Isn't he hit a miss?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 3: Can he be?
Speaker 1: Most of them are, for the most part.
Speaker 6: I haven't seen anything I haven't liked yet I can think.
Speaker 5: Of at least did you watch the Pinocchio one. I
Speaker 5: did not watch Pinocchio. I did not watch Pinocchio, but
Speaker 5: I heard it was good though, I just I just
Speaker 5: didn't watch it.
Speaker 2: I don't even think I knew about it until after
Speaker 2: it come out and been out for a minute.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I made a chance to check it out. But yeah.
Speaker 3: He also, you know has hell Boy that's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to find I was trying to figure what.
Speaker 3: The other Pacific rialm play too.
Speaker 1: See. I like Specific Room. It's not like a movie
Speaker 1: that you just like, oh man.
Speaker 4: I go to go see it, but it was it
Speaker 4: was It's a weird movie because I don't think it's
Speaker 4: necessarily a good movie.
Speaker 3: This one I could just watch.
Speaker 5: Whatever, solid like, Oh that was my god. I can't
Speaker 5: believe it wasted more time. It wasn't like that.
Speaker 3: But did you feel like you wasted the time with
Speaker 3: this one? Now?
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't.
Speaker 1: I was pleasantly surprised that I like this.
Speaker 5: I think I just went in and with like just
Speaker 5: lower expectations, like okay, what is this they got on there?
Speaker 1: On your notion, I was like, okay, Frankistan.
Speaker 5: Because they're supposed to it's supposed to be a Frankistan
Speaker 5: movie dropping with.
Speaker 1: Who's in it? That's the Bride you're thinking of the
Speaker 1: Bride of Frank That.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's called it's called and what's what's Batman?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 5: Robert christ Bell? Yeah, he plays is Frankistan Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems good though I don't know, it seems
Speaker 1: it seemed good.
Speaker 5: But so yeah, I was like they trying to get
Speaker 5: theirs out first. But now that you say that, it
Speaker 5: is about more about the bride and the other one.
Speaker 5: But no, man, it's I thought it was solid. I
Speaker 5: thought it was a good I think I'm box this
Speaker 5: up in the Netflix watch. I think I think this
Speaker 5: is a good Netflix watch. I think it was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: you ain't got nothing to watch on Netflix. This is
Speaker 5: a good one. I don't know how it would have
Speaker 5: felt about it then, n No, I think it's damn no.
Speaker 5: I'm thinking I want to take that back a little bit.
Speaker 5: I feel like it's a little bit better than a
Speaker 5: Netflix watch.
Speaker 1: I'll say that.
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, he had been trying to make this two
Speaker 4: thousand and seven. I think ye, so so yeah, he
Speaker 4: finally got it done.
Speaker 5: And I don't even think it's him. I think it's
Speaker 5: just the Frankenstin story. I've seen it, so I think
Speaker 5: it's more so that than him, because he did it well.
Speaker 1: I think he did it. I think he did his
Speaker 1: rendition of it well.
Speaker 3: What do your thoughts, Mirke?
Speaker 2: This was definitely this should have been in the theater.
Speaker 2: Was this was was excellent. It was excellent from start
Speaker 2: to finish. Oscar Isaac's was cool. He was probably my
Speaker 2: only slight ding on this. But everything else, the cinematography,
Speaker 2: the directing, the acting was great. So yeah, this definitely
Speaker 2: should have been in the theater.
Speaker 1: I felt like you could have did a little bit
Speaker 1: more with me a go her.
Speaker 2: Her character wasn't fleshed out well at all, but I
Speaker 2: think it's also because of what he was trying to
Speaker 2: do with the mother by making her play both.
Speaker 3: She played both. Damn yeah I did not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she played both characters.
Speaker 4: Oh shit. And I watched it twice. I watched it
Speaker 4: last night with my wife she wanted to watch it,
Speaker 4: and I watched it the weekend. It dropped and uh
Speaker 4: and we were gonna review it. I went in and
Speaker 4: rewatched it too.
Speaker 3: Jacob, the guy from uh Ephoria, he.
Speaker 1: Was great and I figured it with him.
Speaker 5: I didn't know it was him going in watching him like,
Speaker 5: I felt like, this the guy, that's the guy from
Speaker 5: euphor You.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a really good actor.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know at all. I didn't know until
Speaker 4: the end of the movie. My wife was like, hey,
Speaker 4: I can't believe that's the guy from You.
Speaker 3: For I was like, oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like, for real, he's.
Speaker 2: Been trying to break that role of being like this disgusting, bully.
Speaker 1: Asshole guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Now I thought it was after, you know, the first
Speaker 4: time I watched it, I'm in agreement with you with
Speaker 4: Oscar Isaac.
Speaker 3: First, it's a two and a half hour movie.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh Jesus Christ, yeah, he's done better.
Speaker 4: And but Astar Isaac was giving me problems because I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: you're acting. It is giving Netflix movie vibes with the
Speaker 4: way he was acting, and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, oh my god, too campy.
Speaker 3: He's a bit too yeah. Yeah. But by the time
Speaker 3: I was done, I was like.
Speaker 4: Damn, that's actually actually really good. Yeah, very well done, beautiful.
Speaker 4: I like the retoiling retelling. I think they stuck mostly
Speaker 4: to the book as well as the novel, which was.
Speaker 1: A couple deviates.
Speaker 2: I mean, I haven't read it since high school, but
Speaker 2: there were a couple of deviations.
Speaker 1: But I think the deviations worked.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I can't remember what they were, but.
Speaker 4: It's basically yeah, okay, yeah, Kendall had read it. He
Speaker 4: just read it for a British lit Yeah it's really good.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, they making them still read that book,
Speaker 4: but yeah, they still are, you know, like he read it.
Speaker 4: She was like, yeah, he read the whole thing. I
Speaker 4: was like, okay, that's all right, but yeah, so anyway,
Speaker 4: but nah, I thought it was really good. That's why
Speaker 4: I was able to watch twice, you know, to kind
Speaker 4: of pick up on some other stuff that I didn't
Speaker 4: the first time I watched it. But but I don't
Speaker 4: feel like I wasted two and a half hours. I
Speaker 4: think them breaking up into three parts, you know, work
Speaker 4: to give us the different perspectives. But it's a story
Speaker 4: we all know, so you know, it's like, how are you, like,
Speaker 4: how are you able to tell this story in a
Speaker 4: way to make it interesting in the in the model
Speaker 4: world rehashing this hotel, because you could really miss this up,
Speaker 4: you know, especially if you focus more on the monster
Speaker 4: element instead of the human side of what he was
Speaker 4: aspiring and yeah, trying to be.
Speaker 1: Like the last one.
Speaker 2: I forget what year I was trying to look it
Speaker 2: up now, I forgot what year that last Frankistan movie
Speaker 2: came out that was terrible.
Speaker 1: It might have been the nineties.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that shit was bad. This one, this one was
Speaker 6: was quality.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The movie begins in the Arctic where we found out
Speaker 4: crew trapped in ice. They're refusing, the captain is refusing
Speaker 4: to turn back. Is crew is exhausted. They're stuck and
Speaker 4: they keep trying to push the the ship out of
Speaker 4: the ice. Their captain is insisting that they pushed forward
Speaker 4: instead of returning home. They hear the explosion into the
Speaker 4: night and they go explore and that's when they discover
Speaker 4: Victor Franks dying and bring him on board, uh, only
Speaker 4: to be a tap by the creature. So they kind
Speaker 4: of open at the end of Vic Victor's journey instead
Speaker 4: of like the beginning. But uh did this opening work
Speaker 4: for you guys with them starting in this way?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely intriguing. I'm glad they didn't like bury the
Speaker 5: lead type thing. You know, they just here you go,
Speaker 5: motherfucker's unstoppable.
Speaker 1: Just so you know.
Speaker 5: So Nah, I love the way they opened it open,
Speaker 5: and and just seeing him the way he move about right,
Speaker 5: because he could have been like, I don't know, he
Speaker 5: could have been like just kind of doofy or slow
Speaker 5: or whatnot. He seemed like he had sense and I
Speaker 5: like that like that that. I really liked that, that
Speaker 5: version of frankistin What About You?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I think it was a good idea
Speaker 2: to go ahead. And so I saw it was two
Speaker 2: hours and some change.
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck, who is this? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I was gonna watch it anyway, but I've had so
Speaker 2: much shit going on this week. Yeah, pause, real quick,
Speaker 2: do we need I think that thing just turned off?
Speaker 6: That camera? Oh it just made like a clicking sound.
Speaker 1: Did y'all not hear that? It might have been something else?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was just like, man, I don't feel like sitting
Speaker 2: here for two and a half hours because it was
Speaker 2: late that I had to watch it. But I never
Speaker 2: got dozy or sleepy or stopped paying attention. I think
Speaker 2: the way that they kicked it off immediately with Frankenstein
Speaker 2: showing up, fucking dudes up, I was like, all right,
Speaker 2: I'm here for this.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Uh, so they definitely did a good I thought it
Speaker 4: was a good job to capture people's attention, especially when
Speaker 4: you have a movie this long, starting out this way,
Speaker 4: introduced as the Frankenstein, well Victor and then the monster
Speaker 4: because he actually doesn't have a name, and showing that
Speaker 4: these two are at odds. You know, now you want
Speaker 4: to know, Okay, well, what the fuck happened?
Speaker 1: You know exactly?
Speaker 4: And then they moved to Victor's tale, and we get
Speaker 4: Victors tale first, and then we get the creature's tale,
Speaker 4: and then we get the finale. So they give you
Speaker 4: the backstory of what was going on with Victor. So
Speaker 4: Victor was basically raised in a very violent relationship. His
Speaker 4: dad married for the dowry, basically married for money. He
Speaker 4: didn't like any of them. His father was basically emotionally absent,
Speaker 4: physically abusive as well, and resentful of Victor and Victor's mom.
Speaker 4: The mom goes into labor, bleeds out, and there's another
Speaker 4: baby being born by the name of William, who gets
Speaker 4: all the love and attention that Victor did not get.
Speaker 4: But the depth is what triggered his desire to basically
Speaker 4: create life and for him, and that if there's this
Speaker 4: philosophy like in depth and there is life, so he
Speaker 4: wants to cocker mortality.
Speaker 3: Did the motives work, Mike?
Speaker 4: Did you like how they kind of used this tragedy
Speaker 4: to set up his motives?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Because I mean I do think that they could have
Speaker 2: worked a little bit harder to show how close he
Speaker 2: was to his mother.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it worked. It worked fine.
Speaker 2: I do wonder if it worked for people that haven't
Speaker 2: read the book, and it would be hard for me
Speaker 2: to find someone that doesn't know anything about this story
Speaker 2: to find out if it worked for them.
Speaker 1: But I do think that they could have put.
Speaker 2: A little bit more emphasis and they could have stretched
Speaker 2: out the relationship between Victor and his mother so we
Speaker 2: could understand more about the motivations.
Speaker 4: I do agree because it did like it was just like, hey,
Speaker 4: like I had to like add in the natural father
Speaker 4: mom you know father, I mean son mother relationship that
Speaker 4: that some is is natural in a lot of people
Speaker 4: you know that have a carrying into the mom. I
Speaker 4: think when you have him being in that situation, the
Speaker 4: mom is the only thing he asked because the father
Speaker 4: isn't there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So did it work for you? Roden?
Speaker 4: Did you uh do you think that victor dad allowed
Speaker 4: her to die.
Speaker 1: Well, so that's what I was gonna touch on. I
Speaker 1: think it's a little deeper than that.
Speaker 5: I think it's a little deeper than just the relationship
Speaker 5: between him. I think because his dad was such a
Speaker 5: good doctor and it was just basically drilled into him
Speaker 5: and then went. It was it was very tragic for
Speaker 5: him to watch his mother dies, like, yo, my father
Speaker 5: is the spend his life's work trying, you know, making
Speaker 5: sure people are you know, understanding human anatomy and how
Speaker 5: how worries like how did you let her die? And
Speaker 5: then that's when he said, well, I will never you know,
Speaker 5: I will make sure that you know, people live or whatever.
Speaker 5: So that seemed like more of a motive to try
Speaker 5: to prove to his father that I'm gonna be a
Speaker 5: better doctor than you because you allow my mother to die.
Speaker 5: So it was a little bit more than just his
Speaker 5: bond with the mother. For me, it was more so
Speaker 5: just trying to prove to his dad that this shit
Speaker 5: won't happen on my watch, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 5: no one else in my family will have to or
Speaker 5: anyone will have to worry about death, you know. Whenever
Speaker 5: then he starts questioning. I think he starts questioning God
Speaker 5: and stuff too.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, but I the reason I slightly disagree is
Speaker 2: because he wasn't really setting out to save everybody else.
Speaker 2: He didn't care about that, because if it was really
Speaker 2: about him just being a better doctor and just being
Speaker 2: out to save everybody else, then he would have done
Speaker 2: what he could.
Speaker 1: With buddy that had syphilis, he was immediately.
Speaker 2: Just like, oh well, Sipha was all in your body,
Speaker 2: I can't help you. Yeah, they were making it seem
Speaker 2: like it was about the mother. And again, otherwise why
Speaker 2: would they bother making me a goth play both characters.
Speaker 5: Well, I was just wondering, like like when he was
Speaker 5: talking to the class or whatever that was university, like,
Speaker 5: he was really trying to push push this idea of like.
Speaker 1: Yo, we could make this happen whatever.
Speaker 5: So that's that's that's why I said that that you know,
Speaker 5: it was more of a of a of a greater
Speaker 5: good God complex on his part. So yeah, I was
Speaker 5: just trying to say that for me, it felt like
Speaker 5: more than just a bond with his mother for that,
Speaker 5: it didn't seem like he was just doing this for
Speaker 5: the For the memory of his mom or whatever, because
Speaker 5: who else would he use it with, Like you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, like.
Speaker 2: Not just the memory of his mom, but more so
Speaker 2: they made it seem like the trauma and the grief
Speaker 2: from him I'm losing his mother is what pushed him
Speaker 2: to be like, well, I'm going to defy death as
Speaker 2: opposed to well, my father's an asshole, and I just
Speaker 2: want to be a better doctor than him.
Speaker 1: Well that's what he said.
Speaker 5: I'm just going literal like what he literally told his father,
Speaker 5: like I won't make the like I will be a
Speaker 5: better diet he said, I will be a better doctor than.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because because you let my mother die.
Speaker 5: See first, So the way I'm looking at it is
Speaker 5: like it's more so about doing better than you did,
Speaker 5: being better than you were. Then why didn't he try
Speaker 5: to say the siphleist guy because he.
Speaker 1: Was too far gone.
Speaker 5: Then that doesn't sound like he's much of a better
Speaker 5: doctor than he's dead. And and it's different from because
Speaker 5: that's going through your body. Sure, the mother just couldn't
Speaker 5: survive childbirth, Right, that's not something that's a sickness that's
Speaker 5: taking over your body. Right, you just you just wasn't
Speaker 5: you just couldn't you couldn't keep her alive after childbirth.
Speaker 4: You know, as the movie went on, we realized that
Speaker 4: Victor's motives from inception was very selfish, and they carried
Speaker 4: out throughout the whole movie. If his mom did not die,
Speaker 4: he wouldn't have even thought about doing this, agree, you know,
Speaker 4: it was definitely driven by that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, I just well, I do know.
Speaker 5: So it's for me, Yeah, it's it was all a
Speaker 5: part of it. But I think that was yeah, because
Speaker 5: it can go either way.
Speaker 3: I think that's why he can.
Speaker 1: Go either way.
Speaker 5: But because he literally said, like, I'm going to be
Speaker 5: a better doctor than you after the death of his mother,
Speaker 5: So they both go hand in hand. To me, all
Speaker 5: I'm saying is that it wasn't solely that for me.
Speaker 4: But he never set out to really be a doctor.
Speaker 4: I don't even think he practiced practice, right.
Speaker 5: He practiced like human anatomy and how that works. His
Speaker 5: dad drilled that, drilled that down to him because he
Speaker 5: was something.
Speaker 1: That he was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was doing a little model thing. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: was just like that was while the mom was a lot.
Speaker 2: And he didn't even want to do that. The dad
Speaker 2: made him, so it was about being a better doctor.
Speaker 2: Then why wasn't he trying to be a better doctor.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think it goes hand
Speaker 5: in hand with the death of his mother. Did he
Speaker 5: even practice? No, I don't think he did it.
Speaker 1: I'll say he understood human anatomy though, because his dad
Speaker 1: made him.
Speaker 2: But the whole point is if it was, if it
Speaker 2: was deeper than just like trying to defy death because
Speaker 2: of what happened to his mother, then it seemed like
Speaker 2: they would have showed him trying to do that, trying to.
Speaker 1: Be a better doctor, because he wasn't a better doctor
Speaker 1: there was, Yeah, he was just trying to create. He
Speaker 1: just created life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so even if he did literally say I'm going
Speaker 2: to be a better doctor than you, he was wrong
Speaker 2: because he wasn't.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know either. But one of the things
Speaker 5: I wanted to point out that you didn't ask was
Speaker 5: the visuals here, Like I feel like they did a
Speaker 5: really good job with making like death beautiful, Like it
Speaker 5: was just like a like the way the imagery of it,
Speaker 5: like was just like, why this is an eerie scene,
Speaker 5: but it looks beautiful at the same time. So I thought, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: well they put it in that casket. I thought that
Speaker 5: was that was beautiful, like you know, it's like a
Speaker 5: beautiful death or whatever.
Speaker 1: So yeah, felt very Shakespearean, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I didn't want to.
Speaker 5: Point that out, and they did that throughout the whole
Speaker 5: movie honestly.
Speaker 4: For for me, Yeah, Victor was reborn. He had a
Speaker 4: vision and you know, he had a mission, and his
Speaker 4: mission was to conquer death, which was driven by the
Speaker 4: death of his mom. So her death led to a
Speaker 4: rebirth in him. And uh, we conclude the childhood part
Speaker 4: of the story about him saying that there were two
Speaker 4: revolts and a fire which cost him everything but the
Speaker 4: estate and his brother, and they were separated. His brother
Speaker 4: William put up with another part of the family then Rod.
Speaker 4: That's when we jumped to eighteen fifty five at the
Speaker 4: Royal College and Scubris. His arrogance and everything is on
Speaker 4: full display in this particular demonstration.
Speaker 3: That he was giving.
Speaker 4: He now, you know, has this sort of like you mentioned,
Speaker 4: this godlike complex, and Victor proclaims in the speech that
Speaker 4: humans our God, you know, and this one was Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 4: heil the first primitive version of his creation and they
Speaker 4: accuse him of trickery. So yeah, so uh, he's lecturing
Speaker 4: to students and stuff like that, but he's still like
Speaker 4: clinging to the idea that his suffering kind of grants
Speaker 4: him divine right. Was this expulsion justified Rod because he
Speaker 4: did it proved that it worked or was he just
Speaker 4: kind of ahead of his time or where they just
Speaker 4: afraid of what he actually did.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they were definitely afraid of what he actually I
Speaker 5: think it started off as like, Yo, this is trickery,
Speaker 5: and so that ship actually happened, and it was just
Speaker 5: like they don't want to They didn't want to believe
Speaker 5: it because that would you know, like they were saying,
Speaker 5: you know, man created God, I mean God created man and.
Speaker 1: He has life and death for whatever. So as religious men,
Speaker 1: they didn't want this to be true. They didn't want
Speaker 1: him to defy that because that that.
Speaker 5: Pretty much erases everything that they probably you know, knew
Speaker 5: or whatever.
Speaker 1: So I think it was more so than just not
Speaker 1: wanting him to see that.
Speaker 4: Through because of that reason, they should it be kicked out?
Speaker 4: Mike say, what should they have kicked him out? Were
Speaker 4: they in the right, Yeah.
Speaker 6: They should have kicked him out.
Speaker 3: That's like a fool. But he had the thing working.
Speaker 3: It called an apple. It ate from the apple.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but his attitude and the way, yeah, no, they
Speaker 2: should have kicked him out, all right.
Speaker 1: Even something that groundbreaking. They Oh, I don't think they
Speaker 1: believed it. They thought it was a trick.
Speaker 5: They thought it was I think they thought it was
Speaker 5: a trick at first, and it's like, oh, wait a minute,
Speaker 5: this shit real.
Speaker 1: And that's why they were getting upset. It was like, no,
Speaker 1: you know about it was.
Speaker 5: Something about God, God, you're tempering with with God's work
Speaker 5: and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: I do wonder.
Speaker 4: If he was less arrogant with they being more inclined
Speaker 4: to listen to him, probably, you know, but he was
Speaker 4: definitely a dick and that absolutely, you know, like.
Speaker 1: Very pretty much, matter of factly.
Speaker 4: But uh but somebody came in and watched, uh I
Speaker 4: rick Erlander, who came and basically offered him funding, gave
Speaker 4: him a tower for experience and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: I thought it was dope with him that. Well, she's
Speaker 5: a good actor too, so they hat had start casting.
Speaker 5: But he I thought it was dope, and he was
Speaker 5: able to realize like, you killed his ass because he
Speaker 5: was about to die anyway, m or whatever.
Speaker 1: So I thought that was cool.
Speaker 5: He that he that he caught on to like because
Speaker 5: he made it seem like he just pulled a pin
Speaker 5: out of and he died.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, he was about to die anyway. He
Speaker 1: just didn't want them to see that.
Speaker 4: But you know what I mean. He remember he said
Speaker 4: we're God. So God creates life and God takes it away.
Speaker 1: But that went along with this whole thing. But if
Speaker 1: he didn't do that, it'd be like he failed.
Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah yeah so but yeah, so he's gonna
Speaker 4: basically fund the whole thing. He said he's gonna ask
Speaker 4: for a favor. Later we as Mike mention it was
Speaker 4: because he was Dinad syphilis. Uh because he tossed the
Speaker 4: apple to him or was that a peach?
Speaker 3: It was an apple, right fruit? Yeah? I thought it was.
Speaker 3: If it was an apple.
Speaker 4: I thought it was interesting because he tossed the apple
Speaker 4: to the create creation and he talsks the apple to him.
Speaker 3: Apple of course is representation.
Speaker 1: Life.
Speaker 5: Yeah so I didn't even put that together.
Speaker 4: So but yeah, so he's a sponsor shout out to casino.
Speaker 4: Uh so Victor reconnects with his brother William, who is
Speaker 4: also engaged to Erlander's niece and Elizabeth, and there's an
Speaker 4: emotional connection that he has with her.
Speaker 3: Victor falls in love with her.
Speaker 4: How foul was it that he was pushing upon his
Speaker 4: brother's girl, bro pretty.
Speaker 2: Found extremely foul, But it was expected for someone like
Speaker 2: Victor who just wants and Plus again, they were kind
Speaker 2: of implying the similarity between her and his mother.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 6: That's why I think that they got her to play
Speaker 6: the two roles.
Speaker 2: So it was really he was so infatuated with her
Speaker 2: because she reminded him of his mother.
Speaker 5: I didn't think about that. Yeah, I didn't even think
Speaker 5: about that. How did you get that?
Speaker 1: Which part that he that he saw her his mother
Speaker 1: and her type because it was the same actor.
Speaker 2: Why would they Why would they get the same actor
Speaker 2: to play both of these roles.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize she was playing the mother something wrong, No,
Speaker 1: she played both. I looked it up. She played both.
Speaker 5: They just did something with her face, like they did
Speaker 5: something right here. So I didn't realize it was it
Speaker 5: was her.
Speaker 1: I knew she was.
Speaker 5: I knew she was the obviously the girl, the wife
Speaker 5: but I didn't know she was the mother, But.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know that. That's what they were leaning
Speaker 1: into that he saw his mother and her. That's what
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that that makes a lot of sense. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 4: like outside of you just thinking that everything belongs to you, right,
Speaker 4: why are you going after that? That's clearly he engaged
Speaker 4: to your brother, Like what the hell?
Speaker 3: Now? I don't think he really had a relationship with
Speaker 3: his brother, but still.
Speaker 1: He loved his brother. Apparently, Yeah, he loved his brother.
Speaker 4: He just yeah, yeah, I didn't think they were close, Like, no,
Speaker 4: they weren't close.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he loved them though.
Speaker 4: So anyway, they were talking about how to get this
Speaker 4: thing done and Victor was still having some issues.
Speaker 3: They mentioned something.
Speaker 4: About eveling table uh and uh and all these different tables,
Speaker 4: and there was a fifth table that showed the secret
Speaker 4: circlar system needed to expand his creation, and that's where
Speaker 4: he agreed to fund this endeavor in exchange for the favorite.
Speaker 3: Down the line, there.
Speaker 4: Was a conversation that was taking place between because Victor's
Speaker 4: pushing up on Elizabeth, and they had a conversation at
Speaker 4: the table where Elizabeth basically kind of walked him down
Speaker 4: and talked about war and how war parallels with Victor's ambitions.
Speaker 4: She said that, you know, soldiers fight for something honorable
Speaker 4: and saying something about like death is not and they're
Speaker 4: doing all of this stuff while the people that are
Speaker 4: making all the decisions are sleeping well at night and
Speaker 4: home comfortable while others pay for it in blood. Mike,
Speaker 4: what did you think about the conversation or what she
Speaker 4: was saying to Victor and basically saying that that's basically.
Speaker 2: Vict Yeah, I mean, I think she was kind of
Speaker 2: implying that Victor, you know, wasn't doing this for any
Speaker 2: kind of good reason, that he wasn't helping anybody by
Speaker 2: doing this.
Speaker 1: I think she just kind of called him on his bullshit.
Speaker 1: She could see right through it immediately.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that comes from maybe the brother
Speaker 2: has said stuff about him in the past, because obviously
Speaker 2: we learned at the end that the brother didn't really
Speaker 2: like him either. But yeah, she wasn't mentioning words with
Speaker 2: him at all, like he want some bullshit?
Speaker 3: Yeah, what'd you think about that conversation?
Speaker 5: Rock this This this part of the story was kind
Speaker 5: of confusing to me because, on one hand, she seemed
Speaker 5: like she she was calling on mine own ship, but
Speaker 5: on another hand, seemed like she was entertaining and she
Speaker 5: was kind of flirting with him. Yeah, like like, so, yeah,
Speaker 5: I this part kind of confused me.
Speaker 1: Honestly, me too. Yeah I didn't. I didn't understand what
Speaker 1: was happening.
Speaker 5: It was like, you make it because you know exactly
Speaker 5: what you're doing, Like y'all literally left your brother there
Speaker 5: at the house. Why y'all went on a fucking adventure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he took a couple of dates.
Speaker 1: It was weird, Like, yeah, I didn't get that part.
Speaker 2: So, but she's also weird though, and she kind of
Speaker 2: implied that she's kind of a weirdo.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I mean she wanted freakings out.
Speaker 1: Yeah she was.
Speaker 2: She she well, that was the whole reason she wanted
Speaker 2: Frankenstein was because she felt like a weirdo.
Speaker 1: Yeah what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So I was confused, like you, I was like, why
Speaker 2: is she flirting with him and she acts like she
Speaker 2: doesn't like it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was it was like a connection there, but
Speaker 4: it seemed like it was more on Victor side than hers,
Speaker 4: Like she entertained it but she also rejects it at
Speaker 4: the same time. But yeah, I think you know, what
Speaker 4: she was saying, you know, connects further on down the line,
Speaker 4: you know, kind of you know, for illustrating the themes
Speaker 4: of power and the cost that comes with it at
Speaker 4: the expense of other people, you know. And Victor's pursuing
Speaker 4: her definitely showed that he's selfish, you know, above anything else,
Speaker 4: which is how he even got started on this whole
Speaker 4: thing anyway.
Speaker 3: It was through a very selfish endeavor.
Speaker 4: So moving on, Erlander grows impatient and he's starting to
Speaker 4: demand progress as his own health continues to decline on
Speaker 4: beknownst to us.
Speaker 3: I thought this was interesting.
Speaker 4: So at one part he was people were being hanged,
Speaker 4: and he was checking different people for certain things that
Speaker 4: he could use for the construction of his body. But
Speaker 4: because of the impatience and the war ending, which connecting
Speaker 4: back to what Elizabeth said, he starts harvesting bodies from soldiers,
Speaker 4: which further connects what she said to him to uh
Speaker 4: to to Victor as well. And these are body parts
Speaker 4: from executed criminals and dead soldiers. I thought it was
Speaker 4: also interesting Elizabeth described uh. I think she was describing
Speaker 4: a moth as well, having three hearts multiple something about
Speaker 4: white white blood, and she also mentioned that choice is
Speaker 4: the seat of the soul, which was interested well. And
Speaker 4: then there was somebody asked, uh, which part of the
Speaker 4: creature of the which part of the soldiers has the soul?
Speaker 3: God forgot who says that? That was later on. Okay, okay, but.
Speaker 4: What you guys think about them like heartlight taking the
Speaker 4: bodies of dead soldiers? Did you guys connect the soldier
Speaker 4: part to what Elizabeth was.
Speaker 3: Saying at all?
Speaker 1: I did to which part?
Speaker 4: Remember she called basically what was calling about the soldiers?
Speaker 4: And then.
Speaker 1: What was she saying about the soldiers trying to in
Speaker 1: the in the parts?
Speaker 4: Oh well, she didn't say anything about the parts. I
Speaker 4: just thought it was interesting that Frankenstein was a symbol
Speaker 4: from the bodies of dead soldiers and Elizabeth basically said
Speaker 4: that he was basically accused him of being the accused
Speaker 4: him of making decisions for soldiers that go off to war.
Speaker 4: So I thought that it was interesting he was harvesting
Speaker 4: part body parts from haying criminals and soldiers killed in
Speaker 4: the in the crimean war.
Speaker 3: I think that was going on since though, Yeah.
Speaker 5: To me, I mean you think about like like people
Speaker 5: being organed oners. I mean, obviously you got to ask
Speaker 5: whether you want to be an organ owner, but yeah,
Speaker 5: it kind of was in line with that for me,
Speaker 5: and I thought it was interesting him basically examining the
Speaker 5: bodies to see what parts and that's what I'm saying
Speaker 5: about syphilis, like what parts are still usable to make.
Speaker 1: Or not? Clean?
Speaker 5: Isn't the word I'm looking for, but like a yeah,
Speaker 5: to make a clean, healthy body? Yeah, clean healthy body.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's like, you know, it might be just
Speaker 1: a thigh here or foot there or whatever.
Speaker 5: So I thought that was because I don't think I
Speaker 5: remember seeing that in any of the Frankenstein movies for
Speaker 5: it to be that intricate, right, So I thought that
Speaker 5: was a nice detail here to see how how into
Speaker 5: it he was like, Okay, man, it has to be this,
Speaker 5: like it has to be that or whatever versus like.
Speaker 1: I feel, I haven't seen Frankstein movies in.
Speaker 5: So long, But the arm of a thief or some
Speaker 5: ship or whatever or something like that, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, It wouldn't.
Speaker 1: It was this very service level where it went in
Speaker 1: deeper here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they like that. Yeah, when she was describing. I
Speaker 4: think it was a moth or something. She said something
Speaker 4: about it being bewitching and odd and so nobody having
Speaker 4: three hearts and something else. But I thought that was
Speaker 4: that was interesting because Frankenstein is basically assembled and put
Speaker 4: together at a.
Speaker 3: Bunch of parks.
Speaker 4: But yeah, she was fascinating with this creature that had
Speaker 4: all of these things that don't seem to that shouldn't
Speaker 4: fit together, but fit together. And that's basically what ended
Speaker 4: up being Frankenstein. And that's what she mentioned. The whole
Speaker 4: choice is the seat of the soul? Did you guys
Speaker 4: like I guess a better question is did you guys
Speaker 4: like them? Showing like the building of Frankenstean and the electricity,
Speaker 4: the building the castle which the castle was a war
Speaker 4: castle too, was attached to the war as well.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: Actually they didn't build Frankenstein. They built Frankenstein's Monster.
Speaker 4: And I said that earlier too, and I did it
Speaker 4: again because I said the Franken style, I don't have
Speaker 4: the monster, don't have a name, it's not the name.
Speaker 4: And I did it anyway. I blame society alive. Wasn't
Speaker 4: y'all waiting on his alive?
Speaker 2: No? No, I thought that was that would be kind
Speaker 2: of lame if they did that. I was actually a
Speaker 2: little not bummed, but kind of like not happy that
Speaker 2: they actually still use the lightning things.
Speaker 1: That's not in the book. Oh the lightning thing isn't
Speaker 1: in the book. Wow, how did he do it in
Speaker 1: the book? How do they think? They just I don't
Speaker 1: think he had to ignite them.
Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly how it went, but I always
Speaker 2: remember being I remember when I read the book, it
Speaker 2: was after seeing the movies and being like, oh, they
Speaker 2: didn't use the lightning, but no, that's.
Speaker 1: Not in the book. Interesting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it wasn't an igor there either, No, there was. Well,
Speaker 5: they kind of made him look like Ego when he
Speaker 5: was limping around and ship. Yeah, I made Victor look
Speaker 5: like times.
Speaker 1: When he got laiblowing off.
Speaker 3: So did the construction montage? Did it work for you? Right?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like the intricate way they
Speaker 5: were doing it, I think it did work for me.
Speaker 5: And now if you're talking about like the lighting part,
Speaker 5: yeah that worked too, Yeah, because I felt like it
Speaker 5: was still different from what we've seen, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like the fighting and then oh, yeah, he
Speaker 5: thought this is the way he fought back and forth
Speaker 5: with the with the sponsor or whatever. Oh man, man,
Speaker 5: yeah it's crazy and whatnot. So yeah, I like I
Speaker 5: liked all this. He was gonna see it through. He's like,
Speaker 5: when we come too far, you will not funk this up.
Speaker 1: I was crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because yeah, he was about to sabotage by
Speaker 4: throwing that thing off. I forgot to mention that Victor
Speaker 4: is such a piece of ship. Remember when he was
Speaker 4: keeping his brother back at the with the he said,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, silver is not a good conduct or silver
Speaker 4: is a conductor.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he had looked at his brother like with disgust.
Speaker 4: He was like, naw, this ain't right. You need to
Speaker 4: stay back a few more days. It looked like William
Speaker 4: picked up on that shit too. He was just like
Speaker 4: what the Yeah, it was like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3: It was like yeah, but anyway.
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Speaker 4: So, but he electrocuted him and he thought he failed.
Speaker 4: He went to sleep, when then he woke up, the
Speaker 4: monster is standing above him.
Speaker 3: Mike, how frightened?
Speaker 1: Would you have been a piston ship? The fuck? Can
Speaker 1: you stand at the bottom of my bed? You weirdo?
Speaker 1: Get out of here.
Speaker 2: But now that scene was well done, especially the way
Speaker 2: they lighted it where it was just like you could
Speaker 2: see but it was still really dark.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. This scene was good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So Elizabeth and Williams show up because she hasn't heard
Speaker 4: from her uncle.
Speaker 3: She is getting concerned, so they drive up to the
Speaker 3: castle and uh and the and the mean.
Speaker 4: During that time, Victor chained the creature in the tower
Speaker 4: and basically treats him.
Speaker 3: Like a child.
Speaker 4: As clear as day, the parallels between how he was
Speaker 4: raised and how he treated his dad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't even think about that. He was abuse
Speaker 3: the dad was hitting him.
Speaker 6: He was doing the exact same thing the monster.
Speaker 2: Yep, that the dad was doing him because the dad
Speaker 2: was always beating up on him because he thought he
Speaker 2: wasn't showing his intelligence enough, you know.
Speaker 1: And Victor did the same thing to the creature because
Speaker 1: all they.
Speaker 4: Was saying was Victor over and over again, and he
Speaker 4: didn't have patience. He thought that he should already know,
Speaker 4: you know, that out of it should be some form
Speaker 4: of intelligence, but he wasn't. It eventually got there, but
Speaker 4: but not fast enough, you know. And I think also
Speaker 4: the creature, you know, showed the sun and you know,
Speaker 4: could which could have a double meaning as well. It
Speaker 4: was like, oh, yes, the sun bring warmth, life, revival,
Speaker 4: et ceter et cetera. But yeah, yeah, he was just
Speaker 4: very abusive to this creature. And that's when Elizabeth said,
Speaker 4: of all the parts that made him wears the soul.
Speaker 4: That's when she asked that and calls basically Victor a
Speaker 4: monster for mistreating him. At this point, is Victor turned
Speaker 4: out to be the villain of this story retreating the creature?
Speaker 6: Absolutely, I thought so, at least so.
Speaker 4: He lied claiming that the creature killed Erlander. He says,
Speaker 4: the tower blaze. The creature starts screaming his name, and
Speaker 4: he has second thoughts and he runs back, but it's
Speaker 4: too late.
Speaker 3: It displows and.
Speaker 1: He starts and he gives up on him because he's thinking.
Speaker 5: He was like, I guess dosile, Like he was just
Speaker 5: like he couldn't, like the only thing he could say
Speaker 5: was Victor, Victor, Victor. He's like, man, give me a
Speaker 5: reason to keep you alive. Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 2: That's why the parallel with his dad was so real here,
Speaker 2: because he abandoned him because he thought the thing was stupid.
Speaker 2: So he's just like, this isn't worth my time.
Speaker 1: I failed.
Speaker 2: Now Why he had to light the whole thing on fire,
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure.
Speaker 5: That destroyed all the evidence, That destroyed everything he was doing.
Speaker 1: The doctor being there, it destroys, that destroys everything.
Speaker 2: But it's like you wouldn't just because you failed this time,
Speaker 2: you don't want to try again, you don't want to
Speaker 2: do with another body.
Speaker 4: Like I think he may have been disappointed in this creation,
Speaker 4: like it wasn't perfect. I don't think failed, Yeah, I
Speaker 4: think yeah, I think he was like, yeah, I did
Speaker 4: everything that I could have possibly done.
Speaker 1: This isn't gonna work.
Speaker 5: That this wasn't a great idea to try to recreate
Speaker 5: life or keep life.
Speaker 1: Living or something.
Speaker 4: I wonder also, did he pick up on the vibes
Speaker 4: of Elizabeth and the creature as well and he was
Speaker 4: just jealous?
Speaker 5: Now I don't think that was the case. Shit, Oh
Speaker 5: what happened towards the end, like when he said it
Speaker 5: give me another reason, and then when he said.
Speaker 1: What he said, Elizabeth, he's like Elizabeth.
Speaker 6: I thought that was this part when that happened.
Speaker 3: Elizabeth said.
Speaker 4: I don't think he was around when the creature said Elizabeth.
Speaker 5: Not the first time, but they said he heard him
Speaker 5: the second time, right, and that was and after that's
Speaker 5: when he set the place on fire.
Speaker 3: He was gonna set it on fire, regardless, I don't
Speaker 3: think so.
Speaker 1: I thought he started beating him.
Speaker 3: After he did. He did he said say something else.
Speaker 5: Right, No, no, no, no, he was just saying, say something
Speaker 5: that will help me keep you alive.
Speaker 1: And then he walked away.
Speaker 3: But he was beating him while he was doing that, right, yeah.
Speaker 1: Elizabeth, And I thought that pissed him off.
Speaker 5: It just it just further confirmed like, okay, yeah, your
Speaker 5: definitely did right, right right, Yeah that's all.
Speaker 4: Oh so okay, what what No? I was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, Michael saying he said Elizabeth. That was the
Speaker 4: other thing he said. He was kept saying Victor, Victor, but.
Speaker 3: The other word was Elizabeth. And then that set him off.
Speaker 1: To kill him.
Speaker 5: He was gonna kill him regards well, I think he
Speaker 5: was gonna kill him regardless. And he was looking for
Speaker 5: a reason not to kill him. He's like, for I
Speaker 5: like this mask, give me another reason.
Speaker 1: Not to kill you. And he said Victor.
Speaker 5: He said, kept saying Victory's like all right, mother fuck
Speaker 5: you did so he walked away and right at you know,
Speaker 5: then he he said Elizabeth. And I guess that just
Speaker 5: wasn't enough for him to keep him alive.
Speaker 3: So Victor, did hear him say Elizabeth last time?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: Oh, then that was a rap. Then it was at
Speaker 3: that point it's a rap. Rap.
Speaker 1: It was already a rap.
Speaker 3: But now.
Speaker 4: Get the hell out of here. But she, you know, Mike,
Speaker 4: you was saying, she's you know, used herself as a
Speaker 4: widow or the widow. But yeah, I mean she was
Speaker 4: infatuated by this creature and you know, wanted to make
Speaker 4: sure it was treated kindly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Victor wasn't doing that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like they could have did a little
Speaker 5: bit more with that too. With the connection. I didn't
Speaker 5: get the immediate connection between the two.
Speaker 2: I was okay with this part just because they kind
Speaker 2: of just implied that it was because she was a
Speaker 2: kind person. She was treated poorly because she was weird
Speaker 2: and different. I just wish they did more with any
Speaker 2: of the other relationships with hers, Like I didn't even
Speaker 2: get that you and William had any kind of connection whatsoever,
Speaker 2: you know, And like you said earlier, I didn't really
Speaker 2: understand the whole why I'm playing with Victor's feelings like this.
Speaker 4: So yeah, so uh, Victor, we see what happened to
Speaker 4: his leg? H is Victor's prosthetic leg is simple of
Speaker 4: like like father, like son. He also made up a
Speaker 4: part too his old ship. His father was well the
Speaker 4: creature creature.
Speaker 1: I didn't get that, you said, but possible just asking.
Speaker 1: I didn't get that either. I just got that.
Speaker 2: But I mean it does make sense the whole, Like
Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't even know they had prosthetics back then.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he did show that he possibly wanted to go
Speaker 5: back in form.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's yeah, well, you know, it's like, oh my,
Speaker 4: you know, I wondered about that, like, did he I mean,
Speaker 4: he clearly had to change of heart, but why, you know,
Speaker 4: did he want to try to work with them more?
Speaker 4: Was this a more of a paternal sort of thing?
Speaker 2: Heard the thing called his name? I think he just
Speaker 2: felt bad, like I'm killing this thing. This is not
Speaker 2: just like a project. This is an actual feeling being
Speaker 2: that I created.
Speaker 3: So but not looking at it like this is my
Speaker 3: child too.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I kind of got that feeling. All right.
Speaker 4: Well, that wraps it up for Victor's tales, So the
Speaker 4: creatures tale is a little quicker. They spent a lot
Speaker 4: of time with Victor. But you know, even at the time,
Speaker 4: like what the this motherfucker? It is a spot like yeah, really, yeah,
Speaker 4: he breezed through this. So yeah, after the displosure, we
Speaker 4: see how the creature escaped. Did that that worked for y'all?
Speaker 4: Just fine? You crawled through a tunnel, It's all right.
Speaker 5: And I knew that was gonna happen when he put
Speaker 5: the leaf throat down.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's how you escape, all right.
Speaker 4: So yeah, he wander us in the woods, comes across
Speaker 4: a deer and approaches him. Gently uh, and then the
Speaker 4: hunters attack. I thought it was interesting that the deer
Speaker 4: wasn't afraid of him, that he was able to walk
Speaker 4: right up eat the berries and that. Yeah, no fear
Speaker 4: at all. But it's definitely afraid of humans. And we
Speaker 4: see why because they popped.
Speaker 1: In holding that motherfucker. I was like, damn, like god, yeah, I.
Speaker 6: Was like, y'all, don't shoot deer in the face.
Speaker 3: M yeah, they do.
Speaker 5: They do so they can eat the meat, because the
Speaker 5: because the usually his buck shots or whatever, so they'll
Speaker 5: aim for certain parts of the you know, I've never
Speaker 5: heard of a hunter shooting nowhere in the head or you're.
Speaker 1: Right, because they used it as a trophy piece, right,
Speaker 1: you're right. I thought that was weird.
Speaker 3: It was the eighteen hundred. Maybe they ain't no better.
Speaker 2: They're probably just trying to do that for dramatic effect.
Speaker 2: Because he was feeding it and it shot it right
Speaker 2: in the face.
Speaker 1: That was crazy.
Speaker 3: Yapect that to happen, going to.
Speaker 1: Kill the ice the other that like that. I din't
Speaker 1: like seeing that, and.
Speaker 3: Then started to shoot his ass.
Speaker 1: Big motherfucker.
Speaker 3: They didn't know if that thing was dangerous or not.
Speaker 3: They didn't even ask you.
Speaker 1: Something that big and the damn woods hanging out with
Speaker 1: a deer. I'm killing your ass. That's bigfoot. But fuck that.
Speaker 5: He still looked like a human though, like like he
Speaker 5: had hind legs and arms, and like.
Speaker 1: I'm like, why did this? What was that?
Speaker 4: Nigga was a person and you didn't even ask, You
Speaker 4: just started you know, Yeah.
Speaker 5: You shot a person. You you you murdered someone. You're
Speaker 5: trying to murder somebody.
Speaker 3: She first asked questions, I guess, but he wasn't bothering.
Speaker 1: No, he stood up, and they're like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: What was he doing that? You gotta die, bro?
Speaker 6: He was not provoked. Yeah, well he got shot anyway,
Speaker 6: that's what they be doing us.
Speaker 1: What the is dad big black?
Speaker 4: So anyway, he hides in the middle up fucked up,
Speaker 4: but yeah, ship, yeah, he's observing the family through cracks
Speaker 4: in the woods. He's helping them. He gets donned the
Speaker 4: name Spirit of the Forest by the blind Man. Had
Speaker 4: no idea what he was dealing with, this dumb dope.
Speaker 1: I did like this. I did like this section.
Speaker 3: This old part where yeah, now him learning how he.
Speaker 4: Got his You know, it just shows if Victor just
Speaker 4: would have taken some time exactly.
Speaker 3: You know, he just wanted to.
Speaker 5: They wanted to be exactly. He just wanted to be
Speaker 5: there already. Yeah, he saw that, he saw the one
Speaker 5: thing he didn't get, you know. Yeah, and he was
Speaker 5: repaying the bat like in kindling building a fence, uh,
Speaker 5: you know and stuff like that. Didn't do a good
Speaker 5: job protecting the fucking the sheep though, jumped over the ship.
Speaker 1: He should have been there and scared off them. Damn wolves.
Speaker 3: He didn't even know them.
Speaker 4: Mother was a vicious too, bro, are they Yeah that's
Speaker 4: how wolves are?
Speaker 2: They traveling packsless like that. I just didn't know they
Speaker 2: killed people like that. So when it killed the blind man,
Speaker 2: that caught me off guard. But yeah, wolves attacking sheep
Speaker 2: and killing sheep like that absolutely well.
Speaker 1: I was just saying, like, how the motherfuckers you can
Speaker 1: hit him?
Speaker 5: They keep trying to come back at you as like,
Speaker 5: That's what I was like, because he was sucking them
Speaker 5: up at first, and then it's like it was still
Speaker 5: trying to come at him.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the c G I looked a little bad here too,
Speaker 6: I was.
Speaker 1: I was kind of shocked. This is like a video game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't the best, but you know.
Speaker 4: I liked how he was learning everything, Like when the
Speaker 4: family left and he came out there and he was
Speaker 4: teaching him how to read and stuff like that, which.
Speaker 5: How how because he was holding up the he was
Speaker 5: teaching the other kid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, was reading a whole book.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he had the there's a lot of words in
Speaker 5: those books that probably aren't.
Speaker 1: He had cards, like like he had cards and ship.
Speaker 6: He was, yeah, I didn't think about this. That don't
Speaker 6: make no damn sense.
Speaker 1: He was a wise man. He was a blind man first.
Speaker 5: First, but he knew how to read. Though as long
Speaker 5: as you how do you know how because I ain't
Speaker 5: seen no braill, he probably has some, especially back then.
Speaker 5: I about to tell you they have brail back then.
Speaker 4: I think he could see at one point because he
Speaker 4: said he was a soldier and.
Speaker 1: He memorized the damn books. It wasn't books he was
Speaker 1: reading them, right, it was it was he was like,
Speaker 1: I said, you're doing cards and ship. So he memorized
Speaker 1: all them cards. I think, so that's crazy.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: One of the books he read wash Ozymandias, which I
Speaker 4: thought was interested Ozamandias King of King and they both
Speaker 4: like attempt to create or build these things and fell miserably. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I was. I was like, that's has to be intentional.
Speaker 4: Why he picked that Ozymanders had a statue and Victor
Speaker 4: of course did a human and uh yeah so but
Speaker 4: both of them, with their arrogance and mistakes, felt miserably
Speaker 4: and I think, uh, that may have been a connection there.
Speaker 4: But I thought this line was really really dope when
Speaker 4: he witnessed the wolves and ship like that when he
Speaker 4: says the wolves didn't hate the sheet, and the sheet
Speaker 4: didn't hate the what where hold on?
Speaker 1: The wolves don't hate the sheep.
Speaker 2: I don't hate the wolves, but the wolves don't like
Speaker 2: the other wolves, Nick knacked Patty.
Speaker 1: Man, that's what it sounds like. It's bluefish.
Speaker 4: Whereas that hold on, Uh, what are you trying to say?
Speaker 5: Gold On Man, He's trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1: Stop being impatient, like fucking frankistar Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just trying to help. He called them a goat.
Speaker 3: I here it is.
Speaker 4: The hunter didn't hate the wolf. The wolf didn't hate
Speaker 4: the sheep. That's what it was. I don't know where
Speaker 4: to get sheet from, but violence felt inevitab between them,
Speaker 4: and this is the way of the world. They will
Speaker 4: hunt you and kill you just for being who you are?
Speaker 3: Was this a bar?
Speaker 1: It was a bar? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that ship was tight.
Speaker 1: It didn't help. Nothing died, didn't blind still got eight.
Speaker 1: Didn't see that coming, did you?
Speaker 3: But I'm surprised, like he should.
Speaker 4: I know he felt that patchwork skinn of Frankenstein because
Speaker 4: he felt his face.
Speaker 3: He pat him on the head and ship like that.
Speaker 3: That blind man was trustworthy.
Speaker 1: I didn't care.
Speaker 4: He probably was happy to have a friend. Because they
Speaker 4: bounced them sheep. They were like, yo were out of here. No,
Speaker 4: the family when the sheep got ate the wolf, the
Speaker 4: family was like, yo were.
Speaker 3: Out of here.
Speaker 1: They left. They didn't leave for good.
Speaker 3: They left for the winter. But the old man didn't leave.
Speaker 1: They that's the reason they left.
Speaker 3: That's how fronted.
Speaker 2: They're gonna leave. They're not gonna leave a blind man
Speaker 2: for the whole winter.
Speaker 1: Is that what happened?
Speaker 5: He wanted to stay back. I wanted to stay blind.
Speaker 5: They left him for the whole winter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he knew how to get by man. He
Speaker 1: can't see ship, but he knew how to get Apparently
Speaker 1: he didn't, because then wolves got his ass.
Speaker 3: He could he should have at least hurt him.
Speaker 1: In head, right, you ain't got them there power.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but no, they love They loved for the winner
Speaker 4: because they were trying to get him to come with him.
Speaker 4: He was like, no, I'm good, he said, I've survived
Speaker 4: plenty of winners.
Speaker 1: He better take his old ass with you.
Speaker 3: Man left, but doubt man, that was fucked up.
Speaker 1: That was that's a bad way to die.
Speaker 3: Yeah it is.
Speaker 4: He was still alive too, but he sucked him down,
Speaker 4: wolves up though he skinned one bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah that was that whole fight ship was insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then the humans he snatched this one motherfucker Joe off.
Speaker 1: He did one that tried to shoot him.
Speaker 3: And they punk ass when he walked by. They're gonna
Speaker 3: get out of the way.
Speaker 4: Were you well, they chased the gun like they were
Speaker 4: doing some Yeah, of course I wouldn't have chased him
Speaker 4: down and shot him with the gun like they did.
Speaker 4: But that's when he realized this mortar. He can't die.
Speaker 4: He died and game back the life. But they didn't
Speaker 4: realize that. No, that's when the creature realized that. He
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I was dead. Next thing I know,
Speaker 4: I woke up.
Speaker 1: I was still I don't know why they left him
Speaker 1: different dead though. I feel like they would have you
Speaker 1: would have did.
Speaker 5: Something else with him, with his body or something. He
Speaker 5: just shot him and left him there.
Speaker 4: But realizing that he can't die, he was basically immortal.
Speaker 4: That's when he realized he wants a companion, and that's
Speaker 4: when he went to Victor to ask him to create one. Uh,
Speaker 4: even when she about to get married, bro, he made
Speaker 4: one more damn move rod.
Speaker 3: This motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Did she slap him here? I believe so.
Speaker 6: I can't if it was here earlier, but she definitely
Speaker 6: slapped it out.
Speaker 3: I think it was here because he heard bad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, man still trying to shoot the shop bro.
Speaker 4: And he walked off, and that's when he ran into
Speaker 4: Victor again, asked him to create a companion.
Speaker 1: He's like, come into the light.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're hear he said, if you will not
Speaker 4: indulge me in love, I will indulge in rage. Yeah, Mars, yeah,
Speaker 4: because Victor's that Noah, I'm not building.
Speaker 3: You a creature. Why why do you guys think he refused?
Speaker 1: There was no way for him to anyway. He burned
Speaker 1: his fucking laboratory down.
Speaker 3: He could have just reassembled everything.
Speaker 1: Though not no, because remember he had to have his money.
Speaker 4: But let's just say, if he did have it, it
Speaker 4: seemed like it was deeper than.
Speaker 1: I feel what you're saying, even if he did have it, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what it.
Speaker 4: Did, seem like you think it was because he wasn't
Speaker 4: his love for Elizabeth wasn't reciprocated.
Speaker 2: I think it's because it didn't benefit him, so he
Speaker 2: didn't care. He was just like, oh, you need a partner. Cool,
Speaker 2: good for you, cool story bro, Like I'm not doing
Speaker 2: ship for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh so yeah.
Speaker 4: So anyway, Victor tries to shoot him, but Elizabeth for
Speaker 4: whatever reason, jumped in front of the bullet.
Speaker 2: I don't understand why he pulled the trigger because it
Speaker 2: was like there was hell of time that she jumped
Speaker 2: in front of that damn gun.
Speaker 1: And you still yeah, this ship was was weird.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and uh, she dies and the creatures on the
Speaker 4: creatures took go off to a cave. So she dies,
Speaker 4: and then this is when William basically called Victor out
Speaker 4: from being the monster.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because Victor got his head busted in.
Speaker 3: Yeah now William William did. Oh sorry, yeah, William hess
Speaker 3: Williams he heard that shit crack.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was fucking crazy too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think he. I don't know why he refused,
Speaker 4: you know, jealousy maybe because at this point, the creature
Speaker 4: shows signs of intelligence, it's talking. It tracked him down.
Speaker 4: I think he even acknowledged that. So you didn't completely fail.
Speaker 4: You actually succeeded. You were just impatient. So the one
Speaker 4: thing you were looking to do you actually did. But
Speaker 4: yet maybe you're still looking at it a failure. I
Speaker 4: think if Elizabeth didn't slap him, maybe he would add
Speaker 4: a second change of heart.
Speaker 3: But I don't know.
Speaker 4: But at this point though, he's upset, so he decided
Speaker 4: to chase down the creature. And then we get into
Speaker 4: the final act and you have like this whole cycle
Speaker 4: of violence that keeps coming. So I thought it was funny.
Speaker 4: The creature was dragging Victor by his prosthetic.
Speaker 6: Ly that was foullis ship man, that was fallon ship
Speaker 6: and then broke it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a dick man.
Speaker 3: And then he broke his nose.
Speaker 2: Oh that part I had to wind it back because
Speaker 2: I was like, what is he doing? But yeah, that
Speaker 2: was crazy. Oh that was nasty man.
Speaker 4: It was like he was toying with because you know,
Speaker 4: he could kill these things with ease, but he just
Speaker 4: wanted to toy with him and make him suffer, which
Speaker 4: was interesting. But but yeah, so Victor go get dynamite
Speaker 4: and he's asking the hunt like big game or whatever,
Speaker 4: and then we see what happened in the see who
Speaker 4: actually happened the part that we didn't see where Victor
Speaker 4: basically the creature hus him down he's in the tent. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and then he basically blows himself up with the dynamite,
Speaker 4: which was fucking insane.
Speaker 2: So this was another part that I didn't love because
Speaker 2: he blew himself up. But okay, so we're supposed to
Speaker 2: determine that he's made of.
Speaker 1: Like I can see why you shoot me, he don't die.
Speaker 1: I can see why you stab me, don't die.
Speaker 2: But his healing factor is so quick that he blow
Speaker 2: him the bits and he just comes back together so fast,
Speaker 2: like I didn't.
Speaker 4: And that was the thing that was confusing to me
Speaker 4: because the first time I watched it, I don't know,
Speaker 4: I didn't see fully what happened here. But this time
Speaker 4: I was like, oh shit, he's gonna blow apart and
Speaker 4: come back together.
Speaker 1: Right, he was still together, right, I'm confusing.
Speaker 2: So I was like, ohkay, yeah, it didn't make any
Speaker 2: sense to me when they were shooting him. If the
Speaker 2: bullets didn't even penetrate his skin, then I would have
Speaker 2: been fine with this part. But the bullets were penetrating
Speaker 2: and they were hurting him.
Speaker 1: So him blowing I just didn't get it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he was like, yeah, if I blow up
Speaker 4: and I'm dead and cool. If not, then I'm coming
Speaker 4: after you. Right, he didn't die, and now we're back
Speaker 4: to the beginning, So his story is over and we
Speaker 4: get a resolution. Yeah, why did Why was Victor so
Speaker 4: quick to just apologize it and forgive him? I was
Speaker 4: so confused by this because it happened. It seemed like
Speaker 4: it happened sudden, like you were running from him, you
Speaker 4: were trying to kill him, and now you're like, ah,
Speaker 4: you know what, My bad, bro.
Speaker 2: Because he listened to the story because he was still
Speaker 2: alive while the creature was telling the story, So I
Speaker 2: think he right, Yeah, I think he's hearing the story
Speaker 2: from the creature's point of view. So he's realizing how
Speaker 2: much like his father he is, and the only thing
Speaker 2: he ever wanted, I would assume is acceptance or an
Speaker 2: apology from his father, So he basically gave the creature
Speaker 2: what he wanted, which was acceptance and an apology. So
Speaker 2: I actually liked this that he apologized to the creature
Speaker 2: before dying, So I was cool with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it was it was. It was.
Speaker 4: It was they both forgave each other and accepted each other.
Speaker 1: Right right, Yeah, which is not what happens in the book.
Speaker 2: So I found I found this to be really interesting,
Speaker 2: like this change. I do remember this that in the book,
Speaker 2: the creature doesn't get to Victory before Victor dies.
Speaker 1: So the creature is so distraught that it just.
Speaker 2: Is like, I'm just gonna go die out in the
Speaker 2: cold wilderness because I can't believe that I did this.
Speaker 2: The creature was going there to apologize but didn't get
Speaker 2: a chance to. So I like how in this version
Speaker 2: the creature and Victor apologized to each other, they come
Speaker 2: to terms, he like kissed him on the forehead, and
Speaker 2: then he just walks out into the Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like the way this ended.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Victor dies from the wounds and everything.
Speaker 1: And I didn't Yeah, that was crazy.
Speaker 3: Benefit would die.
Speaker 1: Because they were they were changing things so much.
Speaker 2: I thought they were going to do something else with this,
Speaker 2: But yeah, I wasn't expecting Victor to die in this
Speaker 2: moment anymore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the creature pushes the ship out using his strength. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and then he steps into the sunlight, which goes back
Speaker 4: to the first time he stepped into the sunlight. And
Speaker 4: that was pretty much it outside of the captain, though.
Speaker 4: I thought the captain's choice to go home was interesting too.
Speaker 1: You know what, you bring up the captain?
Speaker 2: Sorry, are you about to Yeah? No, no, no, sorry real quick.
Speaker 2: I forgot to mention earlier. This was one part that
Speaker 2: I did not understand one fucking bit. Why did the
Speaker 2: captain keep Victor on the ship when Frankenstein Frankenstein's Monster
Speaker 2: showed up and started killing people on his crew, he
Speaker 2: was still just like, no, I'm gonna protect him.
Speaker 1: Why you don't even know this motherfucker. Y'all found him.
Speaker 2: Fucked up with one leg, give him to the fucking
Speaker 2: creature and.
Speaker 1: Call it the day.
Speaker 2: But especially when y'all started shooting the creature and he's
Speaker 2: not dying. They didn't give me enough to accept why
Speaker 2: the captain was like, oh, yeah, this guy's on our ship.
Speaker 2: Were protecting him even if it cost the lives of
Speaker 2: like six or seven of my crew members.
Speaker 1: It didn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 3: Didn't some of them say to give him.
Speaker 2: Yes, they were at the door, like, bro, hand him over,
Speaker 2: because that motherfucker looks crazy.
Speaker 1: Hand him over. So yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming again, I only watched it once, so I'm
Speaker 2: assuming I missed something.
Speaker 4: Nonah, he just decided to protect him.
Speaker 3: I can only assume that. I guess.
Speaker 4: Once he took out the three barrel gun and shot
Speaker 4: him and suck him in the ocean, he thought that
Speaker 4: they were saved.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you're right.
Speaker 4: When he came back and he heard him coming back,
Speaker 4: and when he opened the door, it was it was
Speaker 4: him because he remember he thought that the crew was
Speaker 4: getting rowdy again.
Speaker 3: He was like, I'll go take it this and it
Speaker 3: was this bit motherfuck And the crew.
Speaker 1: Was like, yeah, we let him.
Speaker 5: You see this motherfucker right, You the dumbass that kept
Speaker 5: this whole partner over here on the fucking ship.
Speaker 1: We could have been into this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but but yeah, I thought I thought the captain saying, nah,
Speaker 4: we're going home, which I don't blame him. It was like, Bro,
Speaker 4: this big ass motherfucker out here. I don't know what
Speaker 4: else is out here. We turning around and were going home.
Speaker 2: See, I took it as he didn't want to risk
Speaker 2: the lives of any more of his crew, so he
Speaker 2: realized it's just not worth it. Let's just go home
Speaker 2: so everybody could be safe and done.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the captain was showing the same sort of arrogance
Speaker 4: and stuff that Victor was doing as well, so him
Speaker 4: changing his mind. Listening to their stories, he realized it
Speaker 4: was like, there's because think about it, like just even
Speaker 4: when I think it opened, like he ran up on ice,
Speaker 4: So right now, you're a mission is a failure, and
Speaker 4: you're right like if you keep going, you're going to
Speaker 4: basically follow the same path and lead into like inevitable
Speaker 4: possible death.
Speaker 3: So I think you listening to the story, he realized
Speaker 3: it was like, Nah, we're gonna get up out of here.
Speaker 4: Plus, you know they making motherfuckers up and ship, so
Speaker 4: the motherfuckers out of nothing.
Speaker 2: Nobody told me nothing like that, making motherfuckers out here
Speaker 2: and they're.
Speaker 3: Strong as fun. Yeah, we're out of here.
Speaker 1: I'm going on a blunderbuss. Shouldn't ship. Oh we drowned him.
Speaker 4: And Victor told him was like, Nah, he coming back
Speaker 4: at you think he's bad?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the way you got I.
Speaker 1: Was telling him, like I was telling him that.
Speaker 2: That was one part I meant to mention earlier that
Speaker 2: I was very confused about, is why they even kept
Speaker 2: Victor on the ship.
Speaker 1: They had no they owed Victor nothing. They just found
Speaker 1: him out in the snow.
Speaker 2: And this captain was willing to risk the lives of
Speaker 2: multiple crew members to keep him on this ship protected that.
Speaker 2: That's not like a captain to do that. No, a
Speaker 2: captain is like, this is my crew. I care about
Speaker 2: my crew. You're a random ass person. You can go.
Speaker 1: Was he royals heal or something like that?
Speaker 3: He was just a random person in the tent that
Speaker 3: blew up.
Speaker 5: Are y'all sure he wasn't They weren't going to get
Speaker 5: him or something like I was.
Speaker 6: Like I said, I was saying, I missed something.
Speaker 4: No, I think I know there was a Danis ship.
Speaker 4: They weren't going to wait going to get who Victor? Nah, No,
Speaker 4: they definitely weren't on the way to get Victor.
Speaker 3: No, they were going somewhere else. They had just ran up.
Speaker 1: They got ice and then they found Victor out there
Speaker 1: with those dogs.
Speaker 4: Because remember they were hammergray with the pips and stuff
Speaker 4: trying to get free, and one of the crew members asked,
Speaker 4: if they get free when they go home. He was like,
Speaker 4: we're gonna keep going.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But they were on a mission. I don't know what
Speaker 2: the mission was, but it wasn't to find Victor, which kind.
Speaker 4: Of set up the whole movie, a relentless pursuit of
Speaker 4: this thing, right this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, now it would make sense if we did
Speaker 2: miss that.
Speaker 1: But I don't think this guy knew who he was
Speaker 1: and they were trying to protect him. I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I think that that they found out who he was
Speaker 2: once Victor started telling them about the story, because.
Speaker 1: If they knew he was there, there wouldn't really there
Speaker 1: really wouldn't be a reason for him to tell that
Speaker 1: whole story.
Speaker 2: But I am open to being wrong, and I'm open
Speaker 2: to saying that I missed something because that part didn't make.
Speaker 1: Sense to me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, could were going to the North Pole, right, that's it,
Speaker 5: and you know trapped in they discovered him.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so yeah, they didn't know who he was.
Speaker 2: And after after six of your dudes, seven of your
Speaker 2: dudes got fucking killed by this big ass creature. And
Speaker 2: the creature says, look, all I want is him, and
Speaker 2: you're talking about no, why why dude, let this motherfucker go?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that is confusing because I was thinking they
Speaker 5: must notice, motherfucker right, Why why are they not releasing him?
Speaker 1: Didn't make sense.
Speaker 3: I thought this line was good.
Speaker 4: He said, while you were alive, while you were all alive,
Speaker 4: what recourse do you have but to live?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: The monster said, yeah that she was dope. Yeah, this
Speaker 2: was a this was a good This was a good ending. Man,
Speaker 2: it was a really good ending, him just walking out
Speaker 2: and just looking out into the sun and then crying.
Speaker 1: At the end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just sad that he still doesn't have a companion.
Speaker 2: He's gonna have to live by himself. Yeah, you ain't
Speaker 2: getting a holes looking like that.
Speaker 3: I thought this was interests.
Speaker 1: We wrapped up well the one hole he got.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that ultimately human and men or like monsters, and
Speaker 4: you know, here's a creature that was born, uh you
Speaker 4: know without violence, you know, a love and innocence to him.
Speaker 4: But the cruelty of other men, of other people triggered
Speaker 4: the violent nature in him.
Speaker 3: And that was when it was in I was like
Speaker 3: man like, you know, it's all I think. It's a
Speaker 3: philosophical question. Are humans like born evil or are they
Speaker 3: made evil? Yeah? Yeah, so is it like.
Speaker 4: He didn't want to get whipped and chained up and
Speaker 4: stuff like that. Yeah, they shot at him first with
Speaker 4: the gun. You know, he retaliated Victor wouldn't give him
Speaker 4: the one thing he wanted, which was a companion to
Speaker 4: just love somebody and been off his own.
Speaker 2: But Victor might have also been like, I don't have one,
Speaker 2: so why the fuck should I make you?
Speaker 4: And what did he say? He said, you would indulge
Speaker 4: me in love, I will indulge in rage. So it
Speaker 4: was like, you wouldn't give me love, so I have
Speaker 4: no choice but to go the opposite way. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean it was it's you know, it's a it's
Speaker 4: a good aspiration into that.
Speaker 6: So I'm definitely looking forward to watching this again.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, and I'm gonna go watch Pinocchio because I have
Speaker 2: a feeling that that's really good too. But Guermo del
Speaker 2: Toro was fucking he's really good.
Speaker 4: I heard it was. I'm pretty sure I heard it
Speaker 4: was good. It's in my Netflix. Q.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's on Netflix.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I checked it's still on Netflix.
Speaker 2: I don't have to watch fucking Oppenheimer's next week though,
Speaker 2: open Oh yeah, that's my solo I forgot.
Speaker 1: I really don't do not want to watch that all.
Speaker 2: But anyway, Yeah, this was good, man, this was really
Speaker 2: fucking good. I would have I would have been happy
Speaker 2: if I saw this in the theater. Excellent acting, a
Speaker 2: really good story. Yeah it was good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I didn't expect this sort of story because you know,
Speaker 4: most Hollywood always make Frankenstein this violent monster, so expect
Speaker 4: to get this at all.
Speaker 6: Well, actually they make Frankenstein's monster.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: But when I when I saw the original poster, I
Speaker 2: didn't know it was Germo del Toro.
Speaker 1: So when this was first being huh, I didn't either.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes, when it was first advertised, I was like, I
Speaker 2: don't care. It's gonna be another story of the Franksi's
Speaker 2: monster going around.
Speaker 1: I don't care. But when I saw his name, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, no, this is gonna be good. So yeah,
Speaker 1: he killed it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well he did a good job. He did a
Speaker 3: good job here.
Speaker 4: All right, Well we'll leave it there, man, let us
Speaker 4: know what you you gotta start about this movie. Definitely
Speaker 4: feel like I don't know if it was discussed a
Speaker 4: lot at the beginning of the year, I don't even know,
Speaker 4: but it's it's it's it's a hit so far, a
Speaker 4: lot of people are loving it.
Speaker 2: I knew it was coming, but I kept getting it
Speaker 2: confused with The Bride, And when I saw the trailer
Speaker 2: for The Bride, I was like, Oh, I don't give
Speaker 2: a fuck about none of this.
Speaker 3: So but what got you guys? Next time we out Peace,