WEBVTT - Frankenstein 0:00:01.240 --> 0:00:01.960 What's up y'all? 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:04.880 Be sure to tap into our YouTube channel On December 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:07.800 twenty first, at two pm Eastern Standard time, we will 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:11.920 be reviewing James Cameron's latest release, Avatar Fire and Ash. 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:15.480 As the Avatar series asks its third installment, we would 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:18.200 discuss the film itself and if it needs to continue. 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:20.480 This will be our final live show of the year, 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:22.599 so be sure to come check us out and share 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:24.000 your commentary and questions. 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:24.560 Again. 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:28.000 That's December twenty first, at two pm Eastern Standard Time 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:32.760 on our YouTube channel YouTube dot com FPS podcast. 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:43.800 The Frames per Second Podcast. What up everybody? 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:46.680 And welcome to another episode of the France second Podcast. 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:48.480 My name is Kenniz Beyan joining him on the show, 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:50.440 I got Mike and Rod whatever, y'all. 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:51.519 What's up man? 0:00:52.320 --> 0:01:01.280 We are here to review the new movie Frankenstein by uh, 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:02.880 how do you say his name? 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:06.480 Gilmor thorough. 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:08.400 Man. 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:13.759 Yeah, he did Shape of Water. I he won for that? 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:17.039 Actually yeah, hands Labyrinth Devil's back. 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:18.959 Isn't he hit a miss? 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:19.119 Then? 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:20.520 Can he be? 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:23.480 Most of them are, for the most part. 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:26.199 I haven't seen anything I haven't liked yet I can think. 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.320 Of at least did you watch the Pinocchio one. I 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:31.000 did not watch Pinocchio. I did not watch Pinocchio, but 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:33.600 I heard it was good though, I just I just 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:34.320 didn't watch it. 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:36.720 I don't even think I knew about it until after 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:38.360 it come out and been out for a minute. 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:44.080 Yeah, I made a chance to check it out. But yeah. 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:48.200 He also, you know has hell Boy that's it. 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:49.880 Yeah, I'm trying to find I was trying to figure what. 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:52.360 The other Pacific rialm play too. 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:55.720 See. I like Specific Room. It's not like a movie 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:57.000 that you just like, oh man. 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:58.200 I go to go see it, but it was it 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:00.920 was It's a weird movie because I don't think it's 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:02.120 necessarily a good movie. 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:03.440 This one I could just watch. 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:08.120 Whatever, solid like, Oh that was my god. I can't 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:09.960 believe it wasted more time. It wasn't like that. 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.600 But did you feel like you wasted the time with 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:14.080 this one? Now? 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:15.280 I didn't. 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:16.239 I didn't. 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:20.919 I was pleasantly surprised that I like this. 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:23.680 I think I just went in and with like just 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:26.160 lower expectations, like okay, what is this they got on there? 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.799 On your notion, I was like, okay, Frankistan. 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:33.119 Because they're supposed to it's supposed to be a Frankistan 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:34.680 movie dropping with. 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:39.120 Who's in it? That's the Bride you're thinking of the 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:40.120 Bride of Frank That. 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:44.080 Yeah, it's called it's called and what's what's Batman? 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:46.679 Oh? 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:52.400 Robert christ Bell? Yeah, he plays is Frankistan Right. 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:55.400 Yeah, it seems good though I don't know, it seems 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:56.040 it seemed good. 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:59.639 But so yeah, I was like they trying to get 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:01.240 theirs out first. But now that you say that, it 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:03.160 is about more about the bride and the other one. 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:05.359 But no, man, it's I thought it was solid. I 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:08.679 thought it was a good I think I'm box this 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.440 up in the Netflix watch. I think I think this 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:13.359 is a good Netflix watch. I think it was like, oh, yeah, 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.400 you ain't got nothing to watch on Netflix. This is 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:18.320 a good one. I don't know how it would have 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:23.040 felt about it then, n No, I think it's damn no. 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:24.760 I'm thinking I want to take that back a little bit. 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.400 I feel like it's a little bit better than a 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:28.280 Netflix watch. 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:30.520 I'll say that. 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:35.800 Okay, Yeah, he had been trying to make this two 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:40.560 thousand and seven. I think ye, so so yeah, he 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:41.560 finally got it done. 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:43.360 And I don't even think it's him. I think it's 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:46.600 just the Frankenstin story. I've seen it, so I think 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:51.119 it's more so that than him, because he did it well. 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:52.440 I think he did it. I think he did his 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:53.560 rendition of it well. 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:55.440 What do your thoughts, Mirke? 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:58.200 This was definitely this should have been in the theater. 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:02.560 Was this was was excellent. It was excellent from start 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:07.680 to finish. Oscar Isaac's was cool. He was probably my 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:12.920 only slight ding on this. But everything else, the cinematography, 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:17.279 the directing, the acting was great. So yeah, this definitely 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:18.160 should have been in the theater. 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:20.840 I felt like you could have did a little bit 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.200 more with me a go her. 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:26.080 Her character wasn't fleshed out well at all, but I 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:28.800 think it's also because of what he was trying to 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.440 do with the mother by making her play both. 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:40.040 She played both. Damn yeah I did not. 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:42.159 Yeah, she played both characters. 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:48.240 Oh shit. And I watched it twice. I watched it 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:50.200 last night with my wife she wanted to watch it, 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:54.040 and I watched it the weekend. It dropped and uh 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:55.919 and we were gonna review it. I went in and 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:56.640 rewatched it too. 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:00.240 Jacob, the guy from uh Ephoria, he. 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.600 Was great and I figured it with him. 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:04.360 I didn't know it was him going in watching him like, 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:05.680 I felt like, this the guy, that's the guy from 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:06.359 euphor You. 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:07.839 Yeah, he's a really good actor. 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.000 Yeah, I didn't know at all. I didn't know until 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:11.480 the end of the movie. My wife was like, hey, 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:12.680 I can't believe that's the guy from You. 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:13.360 For I was like, oh. 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:15.039 Yeah. 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:16.159 I was like, for real, he's. 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:20.200 Been trying to break that role of being like this disgusting, bully. 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:20.680 Asshole guy. 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:21.680 Yeah. 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:23.680 Now I thought it was after, you know, the first 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:27.960 time I watched it, I'm in agreement with you with 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:29.320 Oscar Isaac. 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.039 First, it's a two and a half hour movie. 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:36.480 And I'm like, oh Jesus Christ, yeah, he's done better. 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:41.479 And but Astar Isaac was giving me problems because I'm like, okay, 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:45.680 you're acting. It is giving Netflix movie vibes with the 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:47.200 way he was acting, and I. 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:48.960 Was like, oh my god, too campy. 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:52.880 He's a bit too yeah. Yeah. But by the time 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:54.000 I was done, I was like. 0:05:54.360 --> 0:06:00.360 Damn, that's actually actually really good. Yeah, very well done, beautiful. 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:05.120 I like the retoiling retelling. I think they stuck mostly 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:08.320 to the book as well as the novel, which was. 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:09.200 A couple deviates. 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.080 I mean, I haven't read it since high school, but 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:12.200 there were a couple of deviations. 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:13.520 But I think the deviations worked. 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.160 Yeah yeah, I can't remember what they were, but. 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:20.960 It's basically yeah, okay, yeah, Kendall had read it. He 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:23.800 just read it for a British lit Yeah it's really good. 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:25.840 And I'm like, they making them still read that book, 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.520 but yeah, they still are, you know, like he read it. 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:29.960 She was like, yeah, he read the whole thing. I 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:32.719 was like, okay, that's all right, but yeah, so anyway, 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.000 but nah, I thought it was really good. That's why 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.480 I was able to watch twice, you know, to kind 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:39.599 of pick up on some other stuff that I didn't 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.560 the first time I watched it. But but I don't 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.919 feel like I wasted two and a half hours. I 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:49.599 think them breaking up into three parts, you know, work 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:53.239 to give us the different perspectives. But it's a story 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:57.840 we all know, so you know, it's like, how are you, like, 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.400 how are you able to tell this story in a 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:03.440 way to make it interesting in the in the model 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:07.560 world rehashing this hotel, because you could really miss this up, 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:10.560 you know, especially if you focus more on the monster 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:14.760 element instead of the human side of what he was 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:16.080 aspiring and yeah, trying to be. 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:17.040 Like the last one. 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:18.480 I forget what year I was trying to look it 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:20.840 up now, I forgot what year that last Frankistan movie 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:21.920 came out that was terrible. 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:24.840 It might have been the nineties. 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:28.520 Yeah, that shit was bad. This one, this one was 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:29.120 was quality. 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:30.400 Yeah. 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.840 The movie begins in the Arctic where we found out 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:37.280 crew trapped in ice. They're refusing, the captain is refusing 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:42.520 to turn back. Is crew is exhausted. They're stuck and 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:45.800 they keep trying to push the the ship out of 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:50.000 the ice. Their captain is insisting that they pushed forward 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:54.200 instead of returning home. They hear the explosion into the 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:58.320 night and they go explore and that's when they discover 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:02.760 Victor Franks dying and bring him on board, uh, only 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:06.280 to be a tap by the creature. So they kind 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:10.920 of open at the end of Vic Victor's journey instead 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:14.320 of like the beginning. But uh did this opening work 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:16.720 for you guys with them starting in this way? 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:17.760 Mm hmm. 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:24.120 Yeah, definitely intriguing. I'm glad they didn't like bury the 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:27.360 lead type thing. You know, they just here you go, 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:29.880 motherfucker's unstoppable. 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:30.760 Just so you know. 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:35.400 So Nah, I love the way they opened it open, 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:42.440 and and just seeing him the way he move about right, 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:45.000 because he could have been like, I don't know, he 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:47.840 could have been like just kind of doofy or slow 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:50.600 or whatnot. He seemed like he had sense and I 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:53.880 like that like that that. I really liked that, that 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:56.720 version of frankistin What About You? 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.120 Yeah, I agree. I think it was a good idea 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.600 to go ahead. And so I saw it was two 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:02.600 hours and some change. 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:06.920 I was like, fuck, who is this? Yeah? 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.240 I was gonna watch it anyway, but I've had so 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:13.760 much shit going on this week. Yeah, pause, real quick, 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:16.080 do we need I think that thing just turned off? 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.760 That camera? Oh it just made like a clicking sound. 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:21.640 Did y'all not hear that? It might have been something else? 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:22.560 Okay? 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:24.960 Yeah. 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:26.760 I was just like, man, I don't feel like sitting 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:28.240 here for two and a half hours because it was 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:30.440 late that I had to watch it. But I never 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:35.000 got dozy or sleepy or stopped paying attention. I think 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:37.600 the way that they kicked it off immediately with Frankenstein 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.360 showing up, fucking dudes up, I was like, all right, 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:41.240 I'm here for this. 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:43.040 Yeah. 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:47.040 Uh, so they definitely did a good I thought it 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.600 was a good job to capture people's attention, especially when 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:52.920 you have a movie this long, starting out this way, 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:57.600 introduced as the Frankenstein, well Victor and then the monster 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:02.600 because he actually doesn't have a name, and showing that 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:05.199 these two are at odds. You know, now you want 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:06.800 to know, Okay, well, what the fuck happened? 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:08.480 You know exactly? 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:12.679 And then they moved to Victor's tale, and we get 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:14.720 Victors tale first, and then we get the creature's tale, 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:18.040 and then we get the finale. So they give you 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:20.400 the backstory of what was going on with Victor. So 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:25.720 Victor was basically raised in a very violent relationship. His 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:29.920 dad married for the dowry, basically married for money. He 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:35.520 didn't like any of them. His father was basically emotionally absent, 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:41.160 physically abusive as well, and resentful of Victor and Victor's mom. 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:47.439 The mom goes into labor, bleeds out, and there's another 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:50.319 baby being born by the name of William, who gets 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.760 all the love and attention that Victor did not get. 0:10:54.880 --> 0:11:01.559 But the depth is what triggered his desire to basically 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:07.440 create life and for him, and that if there's this 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:11.280 philosophy like in depth and there is life, so he 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.600 wants to cocker mortality. 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:16.839 Did the motives work, Mike? 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.760 Did you like how they kind of used this tragedy 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:23.120 to set up his motives? 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:23.800 Yeah? 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:25.600 Because I mean I do think that they could have 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:27.600 worked a little bit harder to show how close he 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:28.320 was to his mother. 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:32.760 But yeah, I mean it worked. It worked fine. 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:35.640 I do wonder if it worked for people that haven't 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:38.200 read the book, and it would be hard for me 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:40.800 to find someone that doesn't know anything about this story 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:42.680 to find out if it worked for them. 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:46.160 But I do think that they could have put. 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:49.000 A little bit more emphasis and they could have stretched 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:54.920 out the relationship between Victor and his mother so we 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:56.960 could understand more about the motivations. 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:59.840 I do agree because it did like it was just like, hey, 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:05.240 like I had to like add in the natural father 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:11.439 mom you know father, I mean son mother relationship that 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:16.000 that some is is natural in a lot of people 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:20.080 you know that have a carrying into the mom. I 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:22.840 think when you have him being in that situation, the 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:25.000 mom is the only thing he asked because the father 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:25.800 isn't there. 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.400 Yeah, So did it work for you? Roden? 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:32.280 Did you uh do you think that victor dad allowed 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:32.880 her to die. 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.040 Well, so that's what I was gonna touch on. I 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:36.120 think it's a little deeper than that. 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:38.080 I think it's a little deeper than just the relationship 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:42.000 between him. I think because his dad was such a 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:46.000 good doctor and it was just basically drilled into him 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.280 and then went. It was it was very tragic for 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:52.480 him to watch his mother dies, like, yo, my father 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:56.120 is the spend his life's work trying, you know, making 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:59.640 sure people are you know, understanding human anatomy and how 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.480 how worries like how did you let her die? And 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:04.760 then that's when he said, well, I will never you know, 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:07.400 I will make sure that you know, people live or whatever. 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:09.280 So that seemed like more of a motive to try 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:11.880 to prove to his father that I'm gonna be a 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:14.600 better doctor than you because you allow my mother to die. 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.959 So it was a little bit more than just his 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.280 bond with the mother. For me, it was more so 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:23.280 just trying to prove to his dad that this shit 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.200 won't happen on my watch, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.480 no one else in my family will have to or 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:30.559 anyone will have to worry about death, you know. Whenever 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:33.679 then he starts questioning. I think he starts questioning God 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:34.360 and stuff too. 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:39.880 Right, Yeah, but I the reason I slightly disagree is 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:44.720 because he wasn't really setting out to save everybody else. 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:49.200 He didn't care about that, because if it was really 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:52.360 about him just being a better doctor and just being 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:56.440 out to save everybody else, then he would have done 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:56.959 what he could. 0:13:57.080 --> 0:14:01.160 With buddy that had syphilis, he was immediately. 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:02.800 Just like, oh well, Sipha was all in your body, 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:06.680 I can't help you. Yeah, they were making it seem 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.959 like it was about the mother. And again, otherwise why 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:12.520 would they bother making me a goth play both characters. 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:17.000 Well, I was just wondering, like like when he was 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:21.840 talking to the class or whatever that was university, like, 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:26.520 he was really trying to push push this idea of like. 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:28.720 Yo, we could make this happen whatever. 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.440 So that's that's that's why I said that that you know, 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:33.400 it was more of a of a of a greater 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:40.120 good God complex on his part. So yeah, I was 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:41.960 just trying to say that for me, it felt like 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:45.000 more than just a bond with his mother for that, 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:46.520 it didn't seem like he was just doing this for 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:50.800 the For the memory of his mom or whatever, because 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:52.640 who else would he use it with, Like you know 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:53.600 what I'm saying, like. 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.120 Not just the memory of his mom, but more so 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:59.640 they made it seem like the trauma and the grief 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.560 from him I'm losing his mother is what pushed him 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.520 to be like, well, I'm going to defy death as 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:09.400 opposed to well, my father's an asshole, and I just 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:10.960 want to be a better doctor than him. 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:11.960 Well that's what he said. 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:15.040 I'm just going literal like what he literally told his father, 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.200 like I won't make the like I will be a 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.240 better diet he said, I will be a better doctor than. 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.440 Yeah, because because you let my mother die. 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:25.720 See first, So the way I'm looking at it is 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:30.040 like it's more so about doing better than you did, 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:32.480 being better than you were. Then why didn't he try 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:34.960 to say the siphleist guy because he. 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:35.640 Was too far gone. 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:39.000 Then that doesn't sound like he's much of a better 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:44.440 doctor than he's dead. And and it's different from because 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:48.400 that's going through your body. Sure, the mother just couldn't 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:54.760 survive childbirth, Right, that's not something that's a sickness that's 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:58.280 taking over your body. Right, you just you just wasn't 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:01.280 you just couldn't you couldn't keep her alive after childbirth. 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:05.400 You know, as the movie went on, we realized that 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:13.000 Victor's motives from inception was very selfish, and they carried 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:17.320 out throughout the whole movie. If his mom did not die, 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:21.160 he wouldn't have even thought about doing this, agree, you know, 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:23.200 it was definitely driven by that. 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.720 Yeah, I don't know, I just well, I do know. 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:31.920 So it's for me, Yeah, it's it was all a 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:35.680 part of it. But I think that was yeah, because 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:36.480 it can go either way. 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:38.160 I think that's why he can. 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:38.560 Go either way. 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:40.680 But because he literally said, like, I'm going to be 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.360 a better doctor than you after the death of his mother, 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:45.520 So they both go hand in hand. To me, all 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:48.320 I'm saying is that it wasn't solely that for me. 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:50.960 But he never set out to really be a doctor. 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.720 I don't even think he practiced practice, right. 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.360 He practiced like human anatomy and how that works. His 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:59.720 dad drilled that, drilled that down to him because he 0:16:59.880 --> 0:17:00.520 was something. 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:00.680 That he was. 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:02.880 Yeah, he was doing a little model thing. Yeah, it 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:04.960 was just like that was while the mom was a lot. 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:06.320 And he didn't even want to do that. The dad 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:08.480 made him, so it was about being a better doctor. 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:10.080 Then why wasn't he trying to be a better doctor. 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:11.400 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think it goes hand 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:13.080 in hand with the death of his mother. Did he 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:15.119 even practice? No, I don't think he did it. 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:18.800 I'll say he understood human anatomy though, because his dad 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:19.320 made him. 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:21.439 But the whole point is if it was, if it 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.520 was deeper than just like trying to defy death because 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:26.840 of what happened to his mother, then it seemed like 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:30.640 they would have showed him trying to do that, trying to. 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:32.719 Be a better doctor, because he wasn't a better doctor 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:35.199 there was, Yeah, he was just trying to create. He 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:36.399 just created life. 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:39.720 Yeah, so even if he did literally say I'm going 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:41.320 to be a better doctor than you, he was wrong 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:42.119 because he wasn't. 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:44.040 I don't know. 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.320 Yeah, I don't know either. But one of the things 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:48.159 I wanted to point out that you didn't ask was 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:50.439 the visuals here, Like I feel like they did a 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:55.760 really good job with making like death beautiful, Like it 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:58.360 was just like a like the way the imagery of it, 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:01.560 like was just like, why this is an eerie scene, 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:05.120 but it looks beautiful at the same time. So I thought, yeah, yeah, 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:09.679 well they put it in that casket. I thought that 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:12.000 was that was beautiful, like you know, it's like a 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:13.320 beautiful death or whatever. 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:19.440 So yeah, felt very Shakespearean, like you know what I'm saying. 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:21.760 So I didn't want to. 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.040 Point that out, and they did that throughout the whole 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:24.720 movie honestly. 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:30.439 For for me, Yeah, Victor was reborn. He had a 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:38.040 vision and you know, he had a mission, and his 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:42.280 mission was to conquer death, which was driven by the 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:45.600 death of his mom. So her death led to a 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:50.240 rebirth in him. And uh, we conclude the childhood part 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:52.280 of the story about him saying that there were two 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:56.159 revolts and a fire which cost him everything but the 0:18:56.320 --> 0:19:00.240 estate and his brother, and they were separated. His brother 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:03.080 William put up with another part of the family then Rod. 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:05.439 That's when we jumped to eighteen fifty five at the 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:09.199 Royal College and Scubris. His arrogance and everything is on 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:14.119 full display in this particular demonstration. 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:14.600 That he was giving. 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:18.879 He now, you know, has this sort of like you mentioned, 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:23.520 this godlike complex, and Victor proclaims in the speech that 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:30.600 humans our God, you know, and this one was Yeah, Yeah, 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:35.920 heil the first primitive version of his creation and they 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:42.960 accuse him of trickery. So yeah, so uh, he's lecturing 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:47.199 to students and stuff like that, but he's still like 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:51.399 clinging to the idea that his suffering kind of grants 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:59.679 him divine right. Was this expulsion justified Rod because he 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:03.840 did it proved that it worked or was he just 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:06.080 kind of ahead of his time or where they just 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:09.280 afraid of what he actually did. 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:11.560 Yeah, they were definitely afraid of what he actually I 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:13.840 think it started off as like, Yo, this is trickery, 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:17.640 and so that ship actually happened, and it was just 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:19.520 like they don't want to They didn't want to believe 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:23.000 it because that would you know, like they were saying, 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:27.760 you know, man created God, I mean God created man and. 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:31.080 He has life and death for whatever. So as religious men, 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:34.200 they didn't want this to be true. They didn't want 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:36.880 him to defy that because that that. 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:39.919 Pretty much erases everything that they probably you know, knew 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:40.840 or whatever. 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:42.800 So I think it was more so than just not 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:45.920 wanting him to see that. 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:51.960 Through because of that reason, they should it be kicked out? 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:55.000 Mike say, what should they have kicked him out? Were 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:56.560 they in the right, Yeah. 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:57.400 They should have kicked him out. 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:01.080 That's like a fool. But he had the thing working. 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:03.480 It called an apple. It ate from the apple. 0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:06.000 Yeah, but his attitude and the way, yeah, no, they 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:07.720 should have kicked him out, all right. 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:11.159 Even something that groundbreaking. They Oh, I don't think they 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:12.600 believed it. They thought it was a trick. 0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:14.440 They thought it was I think they thought it was 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:16.120 a trick at first, and it's like, oh, wait a minute, 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:16.680 this shit real. 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:20.600 And that's why they were getting upset. It was like, no, 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:21.960 you know about it was. 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:25.560 Something about God, God, you're tempering with with God's work 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:26.640 and stuff like that. 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:28.640 I do wonder. 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:33.440 If he was less arrogant with they being more inclined 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:37.560 to listen to him, probably, you know, but he was 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:40.440 definitely a dick and that absolutely, you know, like. 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:42.760 Very pretty much, matter of factly. 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:47.359 But uh but somebody came in and watched, uh I 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:53.520 rick Erlander, who came and basically offered him funding, gave 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:55.640 him a tower for experience and stuff like that. 0:21:55.720 --> 0:21:58.440 I thought it was dope with him that. Well, she's 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:00.800 a good actor too, so they hat had start casting. 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:05.280 But he I thought it was dope, and he was 0:22:05.320 --> 0:22:07.159 able to realize like, you killed his ass because he 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:09.800 was about to die anyway, m or whatever. 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:10.879 So I thought that was cool. 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:14.160 He that he that he caught on to like because 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:15.479 he made it seem like he just pulled a pin 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:16.360 out of and he died. 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:18.240 He's like, no, he was about to die anyway. He 0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:19.360 just didn't want them to see that. 0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:21.080 But you know what I mean. He remember he said 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:25.120 we're God. So God creates life and God takes it away. 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:27.639 But that went along with this whole thing. But if 0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:30.159 he didn't do that, it'd be like he failed. 0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:36.879 And yeah, yeah yeah so but yeah, so he's gonna 0:22:36.920 --> 0:22:40.040 basically fund the whole thing. He said he's gonna ask 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:42.439 for a favor. Later we as Mike mention it was 0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:47.960 because he was Dinad syphilis. Uh because he tossed the 0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:49.960 apple to him or was that a peach? 0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:53.959 It was an apple, right fruit? Yeah? I thought it was. 0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:54.840 If it was an apple. 0:22:54.840 --> 0:22:56.560 I thought it was interesting because he tossed the apple 0:22:56.640 --> 0:22:59.720 to the create creation and he talsks the apple to him. 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:03.240 Apple of course is representation. 0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:05.200 Life. 0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:09.080 Yeah so I didn't even put that together. 0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:14.840 So but yeah, so he's a sponsor shout out to casino. 0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:22.040 Uh so Victor reconnects with his brother William, who is 0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:31.880 also engaged to Erlander's niece and Elizabeth, and there's an 0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:33.840 emotional connection that he has with her. 0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:36.080 Victor falls in love with her. 0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:39.679 How foul was it that he was pushing upon his 0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:42.840 brother's girl, bro pretty. 0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:46.439 Found extremely foul, But it was expected for someone like 0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:52.240 Victor who just wants and Plus again, they were kind 0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:58.040 of implying the similarity between her and his mother. 0:23:58.600 --> 0:23:58.960 Mm hmm. 0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:02.280 That's why I think that they got her to play 0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:04.000 the two roles. 0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:08.040 So it was really he was so infatuated with her 0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:09.880 because she reminded him of his mother. 0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:13.760 I didn't think about that. Yeah, I didn't even think 0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:14.879 about that. How did you get that? 0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:18.560 Which part that he that he saw her his mother 0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:20.359 and her type because it was the same actor. 0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:24.919 Why would they Why would they get the same actor 0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:26.240 to play both of these roles. 0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:30.359 I didn't realize she was playing the mother something wrong, No, 0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:32.760 she played both. I looked it up. She played both. 0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:35.240 They just did something with her face, like they did 0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:37.719 something right here. So I didn't realize it was it 0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:38.080 was her. 0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:39.199 I knew she was. 0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:42.800 I knew she was the obviously the girl, the wife 0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:45.320 but I didn't know she was the mother, But. 0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:46.960 Yeah, I didn't know that. That's what they were leaning 0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:50.199 into that he saw his mother and her. That's what 0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:50.639 I think. 0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:53.120 Yeah, that that makes a lot of sense. I'm like, bro, 0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:57.040 like outside of you just thinking that everything belongs to you, right, 0:24:57.480 --> 0:25:01.320 why are you going after that? That's clearly he engaged 0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:03.520 to your brother, Like what the hell? 0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.280 Now? I don't think he really had a relationship with 0:25:05.320 --> 0:25:07.120 his brother, but still. 0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:09.960 He loved his brother. Apparently, Yeah, he loved his brother. 0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:14.280 He just yeah, yeah, I didn't think they were close, Like, no, 0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:15.200 they weren't close. 0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:16.960 But yeah, he loved them though. 0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:19.280 So anyway, they were talking about how to get this 0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:22.000 thing done and Victor was still having some issues. 0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:23.200 They mentioned something. 0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:27.520 About eveling table uh and uh and all these different tables, 0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:30.120 and there was a fifth table that showed the secret 0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:34.080 circlar system needed to expand his creation, and that's where 0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:36.800 he agreed to fund this endeavor in exchange for the favorite. 0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:40.040 Down the line, there. 0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:44.280 Was a conversation that was taking place between because Victor's 0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:47.560 pushing up on Elizabeth, and they had a conversation at 0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:50.600 the table where Elizabeth basically kind of walked him down 0:25:51.359 --> 0:26:00.200 and talked about war and how war parallels with Victor's ambitions. 0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:05.400 She said that, you know, soldiers fight for something honorable 0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:09.159 and saying something about like death is not and they're 0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:11.800 doing all of this stuff while the people that are 0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:15.840 making all the decisions are sleeping well at night and 0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:20.880 home comfortable while others pay for it in blood. Mike, 0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:22.919 what did you think about the conversation or what she 0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:26.360 was saying to Victor and basically saying that that's basically. 0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:28.600 Vict Yeah, I mean, I think she was kind of 0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:32.960 implying that Victor, you know, wasn't doing this for any 0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:35.960 kind of good reason, that he wasn't helping anybody by 0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:36.359 doing this. 0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:38.400 I think she just kind of called him on his bullshit. 0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:40.440 She could see right through it immediately. 0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:42.480 I don't know if that comes from maybe the brother 0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:45.280 has said stuff about him in the past, because obviously 0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:47.000 we learned at the end that the brother didn't really 0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:51.560 like him either. But yeah, she wasn't mentioning words with 0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:53.960 him at all, like he want some bullshit? 0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:57.760 Yeah, what'd you think about that conversation? 0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:02.399 Rock this This this part of the story was kind 0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:04.600 of confusing to me because, on one hand, she seemed 0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:07.000 like she she was calling on mine own ship, but 0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:09.199 on another hand, seemed like she was entertaining and she 0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:12.240 was kind of flirting with him. Yeah, like like, so, yeah, 0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:14.760 I this part kind of confused me. 0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:18.000 Honestly, me too. Yeah I didn't. I didn't understand what 0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:18.520 was happening. 0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:21.040 It was like, you make it because you know exactly 0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:24.080 what you're doing, Like y'all literally left your brother there 0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:27.320 at the house. Why y'all went on a fucking adventure. 0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:28.960 Yeah, he took a couple of dates. 0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:31.280 It was weird, Like, yeah, I didn't get that part. 0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:34.800 So, but she's also weird though, and she kind of 0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:36.240 implied that she's kind of a weirdo. 0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:43.960 I mean, you know, I mean she wanted freakings out. 0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:50.159 Yeah she was. 0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:52.240 She she well, that was the whole reason she wanted 0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:54.800 Frankenstein was because she felt like a weirdo. 0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:56.000 Yeah what I'm saying. 0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:59.440 So I was confused, like you, I was like, why 0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:00.960 is she flirting with him and she acts like she 0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:01.520 doesn't like it? 0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:04.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't. 0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:06.960 Yeah, it was it was like a connection there, but 0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:10.320 it seemed like it was more on Victor side than hers, 0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:13.320 Like she entertained it but she also rejects it at 0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:17.000 the same time. But yeah, I think you know, what 0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:19.879 she was saying, you know, connects further on down the line, 0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:25.080 you know, kind of you know, for illustrating the themes 0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:29.080 of power and the cost that comes with it at 0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:32.520 the expense of other people, you know. And Victor's pursuing 0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:36.720 her definitely showed that he's selfish, you know, above anything else, 0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:38.760 which is how he even got started on this whole 0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:40.560 thing anyway. 0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:41.600 It was through a very selfish endeavor. 0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:49.240 So moving on, Erlander grows impatient and he's starting to 0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:53.160 demand progress as his own health continues to decline on 0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:54.200 beknownst to us. 0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:57.840 I thought this was interesting. 0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:00.240 So at one part he was people were being hanged, 0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:04.160 and he was checking different people for certain things that 0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:06.880 he could use for the construction of his body. But 0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:12.640 because of the impatience and the war ending, which connecting 0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:16.560 back to what Elizabeth said, he starts harvesting bodies from soldiers, 0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:22.320 which further connects what she said to him to uh 0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:26.000 to to Victor as well. And these are body parts 0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:29.320 from executed criminals and dead soldiers. I thought it was 0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:33.280 also interesting Elizabeth described uh. I think she was describing 0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:37.600 a moth as well, having three hearts multiple something about 0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:42.200 white white blood, and she also mentioned that choice is 0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:46.520 the seat of the soul, which was interested well. And 0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.640 then there was somebody asked, uh, which part of the 0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:53.800 creature of the which part of the soldiers has the soul? 0:29:54.800 --> 0:30:01.680 God forgot who says that? That was later on. Okay, okay, but. 0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:04.160 What you guys think about them like heartlight taking the 0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:07.640 bodies of dead soldiers? Did you guys connect the soldier 0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:08.960 part to what Elizabeth was. 0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:10.960 Saying at all? 0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:16.240 I did to which part? 0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:20.160 Remember she called basically what was calling about the soldiers? 0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:21.160 And then. 0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:24.960 What was she saying about the soldiers trying to in 0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:26.120 the in the parts? 0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:29.280 Oh well, she didn't say anything about the parts. I 0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:32.360 just thought it was interesting that Frankenstein was a symbol 0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:37.400 from the bodies of dead soldiers and Elizabeth basically said 0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:43.440 that he was basically accused him of being the accused 0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:47.080 him of making decisions for soldiers that go off to war. 0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:49.480 So I thought that it was interesting he was harvesting 0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:52.880 part body parts from haying criminals and soldiers killed in 0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:53.880 the in the crimean war. 0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:57.040 I think that was going on since though, Yeah. 0:30:56.960 --> 0:31:00.480 To me, I mean you think about like like people 0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:02.680 being organed oners. I mean, obviously you got to ask 0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:06.040 whether you want to be an organ owner, but yeah, 0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:09.240 it kind of was in line with that for me, 0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:14.000 and I thought it was interesting him basically examining the 0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:15.840 bodies to see what parts and that's what I'm saying 0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:20.800 about syphilis, like what parts are still usable to make. 0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:24.960 Or not? Clean? 0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:28.560 Isn't the word I'm looking for, but like a yeah, 0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:30.800 to make a clean, healthy body? Yeah, clean healthy body. 0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:31.080 Yeah. 0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:32.800 So yeah, it's like, you know, it might be just 0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:35.200 a thigh here or foot there or whatever. 0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:39.560 So I thought that was because I don't think I 0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:43.880 remember seeing that in any of the Frankenstein movies for 0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:47.280 it to be that intricate, right, So I thought that 0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:53.080 was a nice detail here to see how how into 0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:55.360 it he was like, Okay, man, it has to be this, 0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:58.040 like it has to be that or whatever versus like. 0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:02.040 I feel, I haven't seen Frankstein movies in. 0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:04.920 So long, But the arm of a thief or some 0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:06.800 ship or whatever or something like that, you know what 0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:07.760 I'm saying, It wouldn't. 0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:09.760 It was this very service level where it went in 0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:10.360 deeper here. 0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:13.480 Yeah, they like that. Yeah, when she was describing. I 0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:16.040 think it was a moth or something. She said something 0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:23.880 about it being bewitching and odd and so nobody having 0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:26.120 three hearts and something else. But I thought that was 0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:30.160 that was interesting because Frankenstein is basically assembled and put 0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:30.880 together at a. 0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:31.600 Bunch of parks. 0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:34.719 But yeah, she was fascinating with this creature that had 0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:38.120 all of these things that don't seem to that shouldn't 0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:42.160 fit together, but fit together. And that's basically what ended 0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:45.240 up being Frankenstein. And that's what she mentioned. The whole 0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:48.520 choice is the seat of the soul? Did you guys 0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:50.240 like I guess a better question is did you guys 0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:55.160 like them? Showing like the building of Frankenstean and the electricity, 0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:57.760 the building the castle which the castle was a war 0:32:57.880 --> 0:32:59.680 castle too, was attached to the war as well. 0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:01.120 Well. 0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:05.680 Actually they didn't build Frankenstein. They built Frankenstein's Monster. 0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.160 And I said that earlier too, and I did it 0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:10.760 again because I said the Franken style, I don't have 0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:12.600 the monster, don't have a name, it's not the name. 0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:18.640 And I did it anyway. I blame society alive. Wasn't 0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:19.800 y'all waiting on his alive? 0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:24.760 No? No, I thought that was that would be kind 0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:27.480 of lame if they did that. I was actually a 0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:31.560 little not bummed, but kind of like not happy that 0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:33.240 they actually still use the lightning things. 0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:35.360 That's not in the book. Oh the lightning thing isn't 0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:37.000 in the book. Wow, how did he do it in 0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:39.760 the book? How do they think? They just I don't 0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:40.760 think he had to ignite them. 0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:43.240 I don't remember exactly how it went, but I always 0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:44.840 remember being I remember when I read the book, it 0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:48.040 was after seeing the movies and being like, oh, they 0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:50.280 didn't use the lightning, but no, that's. 0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:51.360 Not in the book. Interesting. 0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:58.600 Yeah, And it wasn't an igor there either, No, there was. Well, 0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:01.080 they kind of made him look like Ego when he 0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:05.480 was limping around and ship. Yeah, I made Victor look 0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:07.280 like times. 0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:08.279 When he got laiblowing off. 0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:12.359 So did the construction montage? Did it work for you? Right? 0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:15.640 Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like the intricate way they 0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:18.000 were doing it, I think it did work for me. 0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:19.839 And now if you're talking about like the lighting part, 0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:23.920 yeah that worked too, Yeah, because I felt like it 0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:26.520 was still different from what we've seen, you know what 0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:29.520 I'm saying, Like the fighting and then oh, yeah, he 0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:31.040 thought this is the way he fought back and forth 0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:38.680 with the with the sponsor or whatever. Oh man, man, 0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:43.239 yeah it's crazy and whatnot. So yeah, I like I 0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:45.960 liked all this. He was gonna see it through. He's like, 0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:48.879 when we come too far, you will not funk this up. 0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:52.120 I was crazy. 0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:55.799 Yeah, yeah, because yeah, he was about to sabotage by 0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:58.440 throwing that thing off. I forgot to mention that Victor 0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:00.400 is such a piece of ship. Remember when he was 0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:04.399 keeping his brother back at the with the he said, 0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:06.440 oh yeah, silver is not a good conduct or silver 0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:07.200 is a conductor. 0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:07.680 Yeah. 0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:11.600 Yeah, because he had looked at his brother like with disgust. 0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:13.480 He was like, naw, this ain't right. You need to 0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:15.480 stay back a few more days. It looked like William 0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:17.480 picked up on that shit too. He was just like 0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:19.720 what the Yeah, it was like, what are you talking about? 0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:21.400 It was like yeah, but anyway. 0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:25.440 If you would love to have more content from Frames 0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:28.200 per second, become a patron where you can contribute to 0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:31.360 what we review and discuss. Our Patreon gives the listeners 0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:34.200 the power to nominate and vote a monthly discussion in 0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:37.680 film Review, while also nominating and voting on weekly solo 0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:40.880 reviews from each cast member. You also get the opportunity 0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:44.680 to vote on the publicly released anniversary film, all exclusive 0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:47.839 to our Patreon. 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This scene was good. 0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:30.479 Yeah. 0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:34.080 So Elizabeth and Williams show up because she hasn't heard 0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:35.200 from her uncle. 0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:38.319 She is getting concerned, so they drive up to the 0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:42.839 castle and uh and the and the mean. 0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:47.240 During that time, Victor chained the creature in the tower 0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:48.320 and basically treats him. 0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:50.600 Like a child. 0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:54.920 As clear as day, the parallels between how he was 0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:56.759 raised and how he treated his dad. 0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:59.960 Yeah, I didn't even think about that. He was abuse 0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:01.239 the dad was hitting him. 0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:05.240 He was doing the exact same thing the monster. 0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:07.839 Yep, that the dad was doing him because the dad 0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:09.719 was always beating up on him because he thought he 0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:12.920 wasn't showing his intelligence enough, you know. 0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:16.319 And Victor did the same thing to the creature because 0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:16.640 all they. 0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:19.120 Was saying was Victor over and over again, and he 0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:21.799 didn't have patience. He thought that he should already know, 0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:27.000 you know, that out of it should be some form 0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:33.440 of intelligence, but he wasn't. It eventually got there, but 0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:37.560 but not fast enough, you know. And I think also 0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:42.480 the creature, you know, showed the sun and you know, 0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:45.120 could which could have a double meaning as well. It 0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:48.120 was like, oh, yes, the sun bring warmth, life, revival, 0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:50.239 et ceter et cetera. But yeah, yeah, he was just 0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:54.879 very abusive to this creature. And that's when Elizabeth said, 0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:57.000 of all the parts that made him wears the soul. 0:37:57.840 --> 0:38:01.759 That's when she asked that and calls basically Victor a 0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:09.040 monster for mistreating him. At this point, is Victor turned 0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:13.640 out to be the villain of this story retreating the creature? 0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:17.600 Absolutely, I thought so, at least so. 0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:23.359 He lied claiming that the creature killed Erlander. He says, 0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:28.799 the tower blaze. The creature starts screaming his name, and 0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:32.759 he has second thoughts and he runs back, but it's 0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:33.160 too late. 0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:34.200 It displows and. 0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:37.280 He starts and he gives up on him because he's thinking. 0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:40.120 He was like, I guess dosile, Like he was just 0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:43.040 like he couldn't, like the only thing he could say 0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:45.400 was Victor, Victor, Victor. He's like, man, give me a 0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:48.959 reason to keep you alive. Yeah, that's why. 0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:52.440 That's why the parallel with his dad was so real here, 0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:55.840 because he abandoned him because he thought the thing was stupid. 0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:58.360 So he's just like, this isn't worth my time. 0:38:58.719 --> 0:38:59.440 I failed. 0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:03.320 Now Why he had to light the whole thing on fire, 0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:04.400 I'm not really sure. 0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:09.080 That destroyed all the evidence, That destroyed everything he was doing. 0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:12.480 The doctor being there, it destroys, that destroys everything. 0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:14.600 But it's like you wouldn't just because you failed this time, 0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:16.400 you don't want to try again, you don't want to 0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:17.800 do with another body. 0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:21.160 Like I think he may have been disappointed in this creation, 0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:24.279 like it wasn't perfect. I don't think failed, Yeah, I 0:39:24.280 --> 0:39:27.120 think yeah, I think he was like, yeah, I did 0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:29.520 everything that I could have possibly done. 0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:30.799 This isn't gonna work. 0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:32.920 That this wasn't a great idea to try to recreate 0:39:32.960 --> 0:39:34.800 life or keep life. 0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:35.840 Living or something. 0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:38.200 I wonder also, did he pick up on the vibes 0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:40.840 of Elizabeth and the creature as well and he was 0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:41.719 just jealous? 0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:44.040 Now I don't think that was the case. Shit, Oh 0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:46.400 what happened towards the end, like when he said it 0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:49.000 give me another reason, and then when he said. 0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:55.400 What he said, Elizabeth, he's like Elizabeth. 0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:58.600 I thought that was this part when that happened. 0:39:58.960 --> 0:39:59.719 Elizabeth said. 0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:05.480 I don't think he was around when the creature said Elizabeth. 0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:06.759 Not the first time, but they said he heard him 0:40:06.800 --> 0:40:09.160 the second time, right, and that was and after that's 0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:10.160 when he set the place on fire. 0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:12.879 He was gonna set it on fire, regardless, I don't 0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:13.239 think so. 0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:15.000 I thought he started beating him. 0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:17.400 After he did. He did he said say something else. 0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:19.840 Right, No, no, no, no, he was just saying, say something 0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:21.200 that will help me keep you alive. 0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:23.640 And then he walked away. 0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:27.840 But he was beating him while he was doing that, right, yeah. 0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:29.399 Elizabeth, And I thought that pissed him off. 0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:33.719 It just it just further confirmed like, okay, yeah, your 0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:37.080 definitely did right, right right, Yeah that's all. 0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:40.799 Oh so okay, what what No? I was like, yeah, 0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:43.360 you know, Michael saying he said Elizabeth. That was the 0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:47.760 other thing he said. He was kept saying Victor, Victor, but. 0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:49.520 The other word was Elizabeth. And then that set him off. 0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:51.040 To kill him. 0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:53.200 He was gonna kill him regards well, I think he 0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:57.759 was gonna kill him regardless. And he was looking for 0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:00.319 a reason not to kill him. He's like, for I 0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:02.040 like this mask, give me another reason. 0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:03.959 Not to kill you. And he said Victor. 0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:05.799 He said, kept saying Victory's like all right, mother fuck 0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:09.000 you did so he walked away and right at you know, 0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:12.520 then he he said Elizabeth. And I guess that just 0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:14.400 wasn't enough for him to keep him alive. 0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:18.600 So Victor, did hear him say Elizabeth last time? 0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:19.040 Yes? 0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:22.000 Oh, then that was a rap. Then it was at 0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:23.080 that point it's a rap. Rap. 0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:24.080 It was already a rap. 0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:24.359 But now. 0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:28.640 Get the hell out of here. But she, you know, Mike, 0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:30.680 you was saying, she's you know, used herself as a 0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:32.759 widow or the widow. But yeah, I mean she was 0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:36.520 infatuated by this creature and you know, wanted to make 0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:38.000 sure it was treated kindly. 0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:40.799 Yeah, Victor wasn't doing that. 0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:43.160 Yeah, I feel like they could have did a little 0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:46.960 bit more with that too. With the connection. I didn't 0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:49.120 get the immediate connection between the two. 0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:53.359 I was okay with this part just because they kind 0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:56.080 of just implied that it was because she was a 0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:59.560 kind person. She was treated poorly because she was weird 0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:03.400 and different. I just wish they did more with any 0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:08.120 of the other relationships with hers, Like I didn't even 0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:11.560 get that you and William had any kind of connection whatsoever, 0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:14.040 you know, And like you said earlier, I didn't really 0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:17.600 understand the whole why I'm playing with Victor's feelings like this. 0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:24.120 So yeah, so uh, Victor, we see what happened to 0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:28.160 his leg? H is Victor's prosthetic leg is simple of 0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:31.840 like like father, like son. He also made up a 0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:36.239 part too his old ship. His father was well the 0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:37.080 creature creature. 0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:42.080 I didn't get that, you said, but possible just asking. 0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:45.120 I didn't get that either. I just got that. 0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:48.120 But I mean it does make sense the whole, Like 0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:52.439 I mean, I didn't even know they had prosthetics back then. 0:42:54.760 --> 0:43:00.400 Yeah, he did show that he possibly wanted to go 0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:01.200 back in form. 0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:05.520 Yeah that's yeah, well, you know, it's like, oh my, 0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:08.839 you know, I wondered about that, like, did he I mean, 0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:11.839 he clearly had to change of heart, but why, you know, 0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:14.680 did he want to try to work with them more? 0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:17.839 Was this a more of a paternal sort of thing? 0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:20.000 Heard the thing called his name? I think he just 0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:23.440 felt bad, like I'm killing this thing. This is not 0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:27.760 just like a project. This is an actual feeling being 0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:29.280 that I created. 0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:32.000 So but not looking at it like this is my 0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:32.719 child too. 0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:39.680 Maybe maybe I kind of got that feeling. All right. 0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:42.480 Well, that wraps it up for Victor's tales, So the 0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:45.759 creatures tale is a little quicker. They spent a lot 0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:49.520 of time with Victor. But you know, even at the time, 0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:55.160 like what the this motherfucker? It is a spot like yeah, really, yeah, 0:43:55.520 --> 0:43:59.040 he breezed through this. So yeah, after the displosure, we 0:43:59.080 --> 0:44:02.840 see how the creature escaped. Did that that worked for y'all? 0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:06.880 Just fine? You crawled through a tunnel, It's all right. 0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:08.520 And I knew that was gonna happen when he put 0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:10.280 the leaf throat down. 0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:12.920 I was like, oh, that's how you escape, all right. 0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:16.680 So yeah, he wander us in the woods, comes across 0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:19.400 a deer and approaches him. Gently uh, and then the 0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:22.279 hunters attack. I thought it was interesting that the deer 0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:25.319 wasn't afraid of him, that he was able to walk 0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:30.399 right up eat the berries and that. Yeah, no fear 0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:33.440 at all. But it's definitely afraid of humans. And we 0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:35.239 see why because they popped. 0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:42.640 In holding that motherfucker. I was like, damn, like god, yeah, I. 0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:45.000 Was like, y'all, don't shoot deer in the face. 0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:48.080 M yeah, they do. 0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:53.319 They do so they can eat the meat, because the 0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:57.960 because the usually his buck shots or whatever, so they'll 0:44:58.040 --> 0:45:00.759 aim for certain parts of the you know, I've never 0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:03.600 heard of a hunter shooting nowhere in the head or you're. 0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:05.440 Right, because they used it as a trophy piece, right, 0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:07.840 you're right. I thought that was weird. 0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:09.879 It was the eighteen hundred. Maybe they ain't no better. 0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:12.200 They're probably just trying to do that for dramatic effect. 0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:13.920 Because he was feeding it and it shot it right 0:45:13.920 --> 0:45:14.440 in the face. 0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:15.440 That was crazy. 0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:19.840 Yapect that to happen, going to. 0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:23.239 Kill the ice the other that like that. I din't 0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:24.560 like seeing that, and. 0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:26.080 Then started to shoot his ass. 0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:27.839 Big motherfucker. 0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:30.920 They didn't know if that thing was dangerous or not. 0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:32.279 They didn't even ask you. 0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:34.120 Something that big and the damn woods hanging out with 0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:39.480 a deer. I'm killing your ass. That's bigfoot. But fuck that. 0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:42.440 He still looked like a human though, like like he 0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:45.640 had hind legs and arms, and like. 0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:47.400 I'm like, why did this? What was that? 0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:49.880 Nigga was a person and you didn't even ask, You 0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:52.280 just started you know, Yeah. 0:45:52.080 --> 0:45:54.600 You shot a person. You you you murdered someone. You're 0:45:54.600 --> 0:45:56.000 trying to murder somebody. 0:45:56.960 --> 0:45:59.920 She first asked questions, I guess, but he wasn't bothering. 0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:02.640 No, he stood up, and they're like, what the fuck? 0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:07.799 What was he doing that? You gotta die, bro? 0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:11.960 He was not provoked. Yeah, well he got shot anyway, 0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:13.160 that's what they be doing us. 0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:17.480 What the is dad big black? 0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:32.879 So anyway, he hides in the middle up fucked up, 0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:35.960 but yeah, ship, yeah, he's observing the family through cracks 0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:39.040 in the woods. He's helping them. He gets donned the 0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:43.239 name Spirit of the Forest by the blind Man. Had 0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:46.520 no idea what he was dealing with, this dumb dope. 0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:49.359 I did like this. I did like this section. 0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:53.279 This old part where yeah, now him learning how he. 0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:56.520 Got his You know, it just shows if Victor just 0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:58.600 would have taken some time exactly. 0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:00.080 You know, he just wanted to. 0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:03.040 They wanted to be exactly. He just wanted to be 0:47:03.080 --> 0:47:07.439 there already. Yeah, he saw that, he saw the one 0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:13.520 thing he didn't get, you know. Yeah, and he was 0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:17.600 repaying the bat like in kindling building a fence, uh, 0:47:17.920 --> 0:47:20.160 you know and stuff like that. Didn't do a good 0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:24.799 job protecting the fucking the sheep though, jumped over the ship. 0:47:25.200 --> 0:47:28.720 He should have been there and scared off them. Damn wolves. 0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:30.680 He didn't even know them. 0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:37.359 Mother was a vicious too, bro, are they Yeah that's 0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:38.040 how wolves are? 0:47:38.040 --> 0:47:42.239 They traveling packsless like that. I just didn't know they 0:47:42.360 --> 0:47:44.879 killed people like that. So when it killed the blind man, 0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:47.799 that caught me off guard. But yeah, wolves attacking sheep 0:47:47.800 --> 0:47:49.960 and killing sheep like that absolutely well. 0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:51.719 I was just saying, like, how the motherfuckers you can 0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:52.040 hit him? 0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:54.080 They keep trying to come back at you as like, 0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:56.560 That's what I was like, because he was sucking them 0:47:56.600 --> 0:47:58.200 up at first, and then it's like it was still 0:47:58.239 --> 0:47:59.680 trying to come at him. 0:48:00.239 --> 0:48:00.479 Yeah. 0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:02.960 Yeah, the c G I looked a little bad here too, 0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:03.279 I was. 0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:05.919 I was kind of shocked. This is like a video game. 0:48:06.360 --> 0:48:09.480 Yeah, it wasn't the best, but you know. 0:48:09.520 --> 0:48:12.239 I liked how he was learning everything, Like when the 0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:14.560 family left and he came out there and he was 0:48:14.560 --> 0:48:18.680 teaching him how to read and stuff like that, which. 0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:24.360 How how because he was holding up the he was 0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:26.560 teaching the other kid. 0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:28.959 Yeah, was reading a whole book. 0:48:31.000 --> 0:48:34.239 Yeah, he had the there's a lot of words in 0:48:34.280 --> 0:48:35.759 those books that probably aren't. 0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:39.719 He had cards, like like he had cards and ship. 0:48:39.800 --> 0:48:42.000 He was, yeah, I didn't think about this. That don't 0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:42.880 make no damn sense. 0:48:43.560 --> 0:48:47.080 He was a wise man. He was a blind man first. 0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:51.399 First, but he knew how to read. Though as long 0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:53.520 as you how do you know how because I ain't 0:48:53.520 --> 0:48:56.879 seen no braill, he probably has some, especially back then. 0:48:56.960 --> 0:48:58.640 I about to tell you they have brail back then. 0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:00.799 I think he could see at one point because he 0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:01.960 said he was a soldier and. 0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:07.200 He memorized the damn books. It wasn't books he was 0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:08.719 reading them, right, it was it was he was like, 0:49:08.840 --> 0:49:11.000 I said, you're doing cards and ship. So he memorized 0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:13.400 all them cards. I think, so that's crazy. 0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:15.120 Uh. 0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:17.960 One of the books he read wash Ozymandias, which I 0:49:17.960 --> 0:49:21.040 thought was interested Ozamandias King of King and they both 0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:27.200 like attempt to create or build these things and fell miserably. Yeah, 0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:30.240 I was. I was like, that's has to be intentional. 0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:34.080 Why he picked that Ozymanders had a statue and Victor 0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:37.920 of course did a human and uh yeah so but 0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:41.520 both of them, with their arrogance and mistakes, felt miserably 0:49:41.560 --> 0:49:44.640 and I think, uh, that may have been a connection there. 0:49:44.760 --> 0:49:48.319 But I thought this line was really really dope when 0:49:48.520 --> 0:49:51.600 he witnessed the wolves and ship like that when he 0:49:51.640 --> 0:49:57.360 says the wolves didn't hate the sheet, and the sheet 0:49:57.520 --> 0:50:00.520 didn't hate the what where hold on? 0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:02.239 The wolves don't hate the sheep. 0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:06.080 I don't hate the wolves, but the wolves don't like 0:50:06.120 --> 0:50:09.839 the other wolves, Nick knacked Patty. 0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:14.160 Man, that's what it sounds like. It's bluefish. 0:50:14.200 --> 0:50:22.640 Whereas that hold on, Uh, what are you trying to say? 0:50:24.040 --> 0:50:28.080 Gold On Man, He's trying to figure it out. 0:50:28.120 --> 0:50:30.400 Stop being impatient, like fucking frankistar Man. 0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:37.000 Yeah, I'm just trying to help. He called them a goat. 0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:38.000 I here it is. 0:50:38.360 --> 0:50:40.959 The hunter didn't hate the wolf. The wolf didn't hate 0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:42.600 the sheep. That's what it was. I don't know where 0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:45.680 to get sheet from, but violence felt inevitab between them, 0:50:45.719 --> 0:50:47.759 and this is the way of the world. They will 0:50:47.840 --> 0:50:50.319 hunt you and kill you just for being who you are? 0:50:50.560 --> 0:50:51.080 Was this a bar? 0:50:51.360 --> 0:50:52.640 It was a bar? Yeah? 0:50:52.719 --> 0:50:54.359 Yeah, yeah, that ship was tight. 0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:58.520 It didn't help. Nothing died, didn't blind still got eight. 0:50:59.040 --> 0:51:00.000 Didn't see that coming, did you? 0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:02.440 But I'm surprised, like he should. 0:51:02.600 --> 0:51:07.279 I know he felt that patchwork skinn of Frankenstein because 0:51:07.280 --> 0:51:08.040 he felt his face. 0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:09.600 He pat him on the head and ship like that. 0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:10.960 That blind man was trustworthy. 0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:13.000 I didn't care. 0:51:13.760 --> 0:51:16.600 He probably was happy to have a friend. Because they 0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:21.120 bounced them sheep. They were like, yo were out of here. No, 0:51:21.239 --> 0:51:23.520 the family when the sheep got ate the wolf, the 0:51:23.560 --> 0:51:24.680 family was like, yo were. 0:51:24.520 --> 0:51:24.919 Out of here. 0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:27.000 They left. They didn't leave for good. 0:51:27.880 --> 0:51:30.120 They left for the winter. But the old man didn't leave. 0:51:30.160 --> 0:51:33.759 They that's the reason they left. 0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:36.120 That's how fronted. 0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:39.600 They're gonna leave. They're not gonna leave a blind man 0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:40.279 for the whole winter. 0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:41.760 Is that what happened? 0:51:42.400 --> 0:51:45.640 He wanted to stay back. I wanted to stay blind. 0:51:46.000 --> 0:51:47.360 They left him for the whole winter. 0:51:47.880 --> 0:51:50.239 Yeah, but he knew how to get by man. He 0:51:50.280 --> 0:51:53.600 can't see ship, but he knew how to get Apparently 0:51:53.640 --> 0:51:55.360 he didn't, because then wolves got his ass. 0:51:56.360 --> 0:51:57.799 He could he should have at least hurt him. 0:51:57.680 --> 0:52:00.520 In head, right, you ain't got them there power. 0:52:00.680 --> 0:52:02.479 Yeah, but no, they love They loved for the winner 0:52:02.480 --> 0:52:04.279 because they were trying to get him to come with him. 0:52:04.320 --> 0:52:06.280 He was like, no, I'm good, he said, I've survived 0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:07.000 plenty of winners. 0:52:07.200 --> 0:52:08.520 He better take his old ass with you. 0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:10.799 Man left, but doubt man, that was fucked up. 0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:12.680 That was that's a bad way to die. 0:52:12.920 --> 0:52:13.520 Yeah it is. 0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:15.839 He was still alive too, but he sucked him down, 0:52:16.320 --> 0:52:19.080 wolves up though he skinned one bro. 0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:25.160 Yeah that was that whole fight ship was insane. 0:52:23.920 --> 0:52:26.520 Yeah. Yeah. 0:52:26.600 --> 0:52:29.319 And then the humans he snatched this one motherfucker Joe off. 0:52:29.560 --> 0:52:31.879 He did one that tried to shoot him. 0:52:31.800 --> 0:52:34.759 And they punk ass when he walked by. They're gonna 0:52:34.760 --> 0:52:35.600 get out of the way. 0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:39.520 Were you well, they chased the gun like they were 0:52:39.560 --> 0:52:41.359 doing some Yeah, of course I wouldn't have chased him 0:52:41.360 --> 0:52:44.120 down and shot him with the gun like they did. 0:52:44.480 --> 0:52:46.960 But that's when he realized this mortar. He can't die. 0:52:47.000 --> 0:52:48.560 He died and game back the life. But they didn't 0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:52.120 realize that. No, that's when the creature realized that. He 0:52:52.239 --> 0:52:55.360 was like, yeah, I was dead. Next thing I know, 0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:55.880 I woke up. 0:52:55.960 --> 0:52:57.680 I was still I don't know why they left him 0:52:57.680 --> 0:52:59.640 different dead though. I feel like they would have you 0:52:59.640 --> 0:53:00.320 would have did. 0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:02.920 Something else with him, with his body or something. He 0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:04.319 just shot him and left him there. 0:53:05.280 --> 0:53:08.520 But realizing that he can't die, he was basically immortal. 0:53:08.600 --> 0:53:11.080 That's when he realized he wants a companion, and that's 0:53:11.080 --> 0:53:16.279 when he went to Victor to ask him to create one. Uh, 0:53:17.200 --> 0:53:21.359 even when she about to get married, bro, he made 0:53:21.440 --> 0:53:22.759 one more damn move rod. 0:53:23.840 --> 0:53:24.799 This motherfucker. 0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:28.440 Did she slap him here? I believe so. 0:53:28.719 --> 0:53:30.560 I can't if it was here earlier, but she definitely 0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:31.160 slapped it out. 0:53:31.200 --> 0:53:35.160 I think it was here because he heard bad. 0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:39.160 Yeah, but yeah, man still trying to shoot the shop bro. 0:53:41.640 --> 0:53:44.239 And he walked off, and that's when he ran into 0:53:44.280 --> 0:53:46.600 Victor again, asked him to create a companion. 0:53:47.640 --> 0:53:48.640 He's like, come into the light. 0:53:49.360 --> 0:53:52.040 Yeah, if you're hear he said, if you will not 0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:59.120 indulge me in love, I will indulge in rage. Yeah, Mars, yeah, 0:53:59.280 --> 0:54:01.640 because Victor's that Noah, I'm not building. 0:54:01.280 --> 0:54:03.920 You a creature. Why why do you guys think he refused? 0:54:04.880 --> 0:54:06.520 There was no way for him to anyway. He burned 0:54:06.560 --> 0:54:07.719 his fucking laboratory down. 0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:10.160 He could have just reassembled everything. 0:54:09.880 --> 0:54:13.520 Though not no, because remember he had to have his money. 0:54:13.719 --> 0:54:15.799 But let's just say, if he did have it, it 0:54:15.840 --> 0:54:16.960 seemed like it was deeper than. 0:54:17.320 --> 0:54:21.000 I feel what you're saying, even if he did have it, Like, yeah, 0:54:21.080 --> 0:54:21.560 that's what it. 0:54:21.480 --> 0:54:24.160 Did, seem like you think it was because he wasn't 0:54:24.520 --> 0:54:27.000 his love for Elizabeth wasn't reciprocated. 0:54:27.239 --> 0:54:28.840 I think it's because it didn't benefit him, so he 0:54:28.840 --> 0:54:31.799 didn't care. He was just like, oh, you need a partner. Cool, 0:54:31.800 --> 0:54:36.520 good for you, cool story bro, Like I'm not doing 0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:37.120 ship for you. 0:54:37.239 --> 0:54:40.319 Yeah. Uh so yeah. 0:54:40.360 --> 0:54:44.480 So anyway, Victor tries to shoot him, but Elizabeth for 0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:46.399 whatever reason, jumped in front of the bullet. 0:54:49.040 --> 0:54:51.200 I don't understand why he pulled the trigger because it 0:54:51.239 --> 0:54:53.040 was like there was hell of time that she jumped 0:54:53.040 --> 0:54:54.040 in front of that damn gun. 0:54:54.960 --> 0:54:57.680 And you still yeah, this ship was was weird. 0:54:58.360 --> 0:55:03.040 Yeah, and uh, she dies and the creatures on the 0:55:03.080 --> 0:55:05.800 creatures took go off to a cave. So she dies, 0:55:06.440 --> 0:55:09.560 and then this is when William basically called Victor out 0:55:09.680 --> 0:55:10.600 from being the monster. 0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:12.480 Yeah, because Victor got his head busted in. 0:55:12.800 --> 0:55:17.480 Yeah now William William did. Oh sorry, yeah, William hess 0:55:17.520 --> 0:55:19.280 Williams he heard that shit crack. 0:55:19.560 --> 0:55:21.239 Yeah that was fucking crazy too. 0:55:22.440 --> 0:55:27.759 Yeah, yeah, I think he. I don't know why he refused, 0:55:28.920 --> 0:55:34.040 you know, jealousy maybe because at this point, the creature 0:55:34.080 --> 0:55:37.959 shows signs of intelligence, it's talking. It tracked him down. 0:55:38.040 --> 0:55:41.920 I think he even acknowledged that. So you didn't completely fail. 0:55:42.840 --> 0:55:46.399 You actually succeeded. You were just impatient. So the one 0:55:46.440 --> 0:55:48.680 thing you were looking to do you actually did. But 0:55:48.800 --> 0:55:50.840 yet maybe you're still looking at it a failure. I 0:55:50.880 --> 0:55:54.200 think if Elizabeth didn't slap him, maybe he would add 0:55:54.880 --> 0:55:57.399 a second change of heart. 0:55:57.440 --> 0:55:58.279 But I don't know. 0:55:58.440 --> 0:56:03.760 But at this point though, he's upset, so he decided 0:56:03.800 --> 0:56:05.759 to chase down the creature. And then we get into 0:56:05.800 --> 0:56:08.960 the final act and you have like this whole cycle 0:56:08.960 --> 0:56:14.720 of violence that keeps coming. So I thought it was funny. 0:56:14.760 --> 0:56:18.200 The creature was dragging Victor by his prosthetic. 0:56:17.760 --> 0:56:22.919 Ly that was foullis ship man, that was fallon ship 0:56:23.200 --> 0:56:24.000 and then broke it. 0:56:24.480 --> 0:56:26.160 Yeah, you're a dick man. 0:56:27.520 --> 0:56:28.960 And then he broke his nose. 0:56:29.239 --> 0:56:31.040 Oh that part I had to wind it back because 0:56:31.040 --> 0:56:33.640 I was like, what is he doing? But yeah, that 0:56:33.840 --> 0:56:36.520 was crazy. Oh that was nasty man. 0:56:36.680 --> 0:56:39.600 It was like he was toying with because you know, 0:56:39.640 --> 0:56:43.480 he could kill these things with ease, but he just 0:56:43.560 --> 0:56:46.759 wanted to toy with him and make him suffer, which 0:56:46.960 --> 0:56:55.000 was interesting. But but yeah, so Victor go get dynamite 0:56:55.880 --> 0:56:58.160 and he's asking the hunt like big game or whatever, 0:56:58.960 --> 0:57:03.799 and then we see what happened in the see who 0:57:03.840 --> 0:57:07.680 actually happened the part that we didn't see where Victor 0:57:08.719 --> 0:57:12.880 basically the creature hus him down he's in the tent. Yeah, 0:57:12.920 --> 0:57:15.240 and then he basically blows himself up with the dynamite, 0:57:15.280 --> 0:57:16.360 which was fucking insane. 0:57:16.520 --> 0:57:20.560 So this was another part that I didn't love because 0:57:22.000 --> 0:57:25.400 he blew himself up. But okay, so we're supposed to 0:57:25.520 --> 0:57:28.480 determine that he's made of. 0:57:29.800 --> 0:57:31.880 Like I can see why you shoot me, he don't die. 0:57:32.040 --> 0:57:33.800 I can see why you stab me, don't die. 0:57:34.480 --> 0:57:36.959 But his healing factor is so quick that he blow 0:57:37.000 --> 0:57:39.000 him the bits and he just comes back together so fast, 0:57:39.040 --> 0:57:39.400 like I didn't. 0:57:39.520 --> 0:57:40.880 And that was the thing that was confusing to me 0:57:40.960 --> 0:57:43.560 because the first time I watched it, I don't know, 0:57:43.680 --> 0:57:46.680 I didn't see fully what happened here. But this time 0:57:46.720 --> 0:57:48.600 I was like, oh shit, he's gonna blow apart and 0:57:48.640 --> 0:57:49.320 come back together. 0:57:49.480 --> 0:57:52.440 Right, he was still together, right, I'm confusing. 0:57:52.520 --> 0:57:55.920 So I was like, ohkay, yeah, it didn't make any 0:57:56.000 --> 0:58:00.480 sense to me when they were shooting him. If the 0:58:00.520 --> 0:58:03.440 bullets didn't even penetrate his skin, then I would have 0:58:03.440 --> 0:58:05.480 been fine with this part. But the bullets were penetrating 0:58:05.480 --> 0:58:09.000 and they were hurting him. 0:58:07.560 --> 0:58:09.120 So him blowing I just didn't get it. 0:58:09.720 --> 0:58:11.560 Yeah, because he was like, yeah, if I blow up 0:58:11.560 --> 0:58:14.320 and I'm dead and cool. If not, then I'm coming 0:58:14.360 --> 0:58:18.000 after you. Right, he didn't die, and now we're back 0:58:18.040 --> 0:58:20.240 to the beginning, So his story is over and we 0:58:20.280 --> 0:58:28.400 get a resolution. Yeah, why did Why was Victor so 0:58:28.520 --> 0:58:33.760 quick to just apologize it and forgive him? I was 0:58:33.760 --> 0:58:36.400 so confused by this because it happened. It seemed like 0:58:36.440 --> 0:58:38.920 it happened sudden, like you were running from him, you 0:58:39.000 --> 0:58:43.280 were trying to kill him, and now you're like, ah, 0:58:43.320 --> 0:58:44.520 you know what, My bad, bro. 0:58:44.680 --> 0:58:46.280 Because he listened to the story because he was still 0:58:46.280 --> 0:58:48.520 alive while the creature was telling the story, So I 0:58:48.560 --> 0:58:52.000 think he right, Yeah, I think he's hearing the story 0:58:52.040 --> 0:58:56.160 from the creature's point of view. So he's realizing how 0:58:56.240 --> 0:58:59.240 much like his father he is, and the only thing 0:58:59.280 --> 0:59:03.880 he ever wanted, I would assume is acceptance or an 0:59:03.920 --> 0:59:07.680 apology from his father, So he basically gave the creature 0:59:08.040 --> 0:59:12.440 what he wanted, which was acceptance and an apology. So 0:59:12.640 --> 0:59:16.920 I actually liked this that he apologized to the creature 0:59:16.920 --> 0:59:19.880 before dying, So I was cool with it. 0:59:20.120 --> 0:59:22.520 Yeah, No, it was it was. It was. 0:59:22.600 --> 0:59:25.520 It was they both forgave each other and accepted each other. 0:59:25.520 --> 0:59:28.920 Right right, Yeah, which is not what happens in the book. 0:59:29.560 --> 0:59:31.640 So I found I found this to be really interesting, 0:59:31.840 --> 0:59:36.040 like this change. I do remember this that in the book, 0:59:36.840 --> 0:59:39.480 the creature doesn't get to Victory before Victor dies. 0:59:40.160 --> 0:59:42.720 So the creature is so distraught that it just. 0:59:42.720 --> 0:59:44.920 Is like, I'm just gonna go die out in the 0:59:45.000 --> 0:59:48.560 cold wilderness because I can't believe that I did this. 0:59:48.640 --> 0:59:51.480 The creature was going there to apologize but didn't get 0:59:51.520 --> 0:59:54.200 a chance to. So I like how in this version 0:59:54.880 --> 0:59:58.600 the creature and Victor apologized to each other, they come 0:59:58.640 --> 1:00:02.600 to terms, he like kissed him on the forehead, and 1:00:02.640 --> 1:00:05.240 then he just walks out into the Yeah. 1:00:05.240 --> 1:00:06.560 I like the way this ended. 1:00:06.960 --> 1:00:10.680 Yeah, so Victor dies from the wounds and everything. 1:00:10.440 --> 1:00:13.960 And I didn't Yeah, that was crazy. 1:00:14.120 --> 1:00:15.640 Benefit would die. 1:00:16.000 --> 1:00:19.160 Because they were they were changing things so much. 1:00:19.200 --> 1:00:20.960 I thought they were going to do something else with this, 1:00:21.200 --> 1:00:23.000 But yeah, I wasn't expecting Victor to die in this 1:00:23.080 --> 1:00:23.880 moment anymore. 1:00:25.200 --> 1:00:30.960 Yeah, the creature pushes the ship out using his strength. Yeah, 1:00:31.040 --> 1:00:34.400 and then he steps into the sunlight, which goes back 1:00:34.440 --> 1:00:39.480 to the first time he stepped into the sunlight. And 1:00:39.640 --> 1:00:45.120 that was pretty much it outside of the captain, though. 1:00:45.160 --> 1:00:47.680 I thought the captain's choice to go home was interesting too. 1:00:48.800 --> 1:00:50.080 You know what, you bring up the captain? 1:00:50.080 --> 1:00:53.000 Sorry, are you about to Yeah? No, no, no, sorry real quick. 1:00:53.560 --> 1:00:57.200 I forgot to mention earlier. This was one part that 1:00:57.280 --> 1:01:03.080 I did not understand one fucking bit. Why did the 1:01:03.120 --> 1:01:09.280 captain keep Victor on the ship when Frankenstein Frankenstein's Monster 1:01:09.360 --> 1:01:13.440 showed up and started killing people on his crew, he 1:01:13.560 --> 1:01:16.040 was still just like, no, I'm gonna protect him. 1:01:16.080 --> 1:01:20.240 Why you don't even know this motherfucker. Y'all found him. 1:01:20.240 --> 1:01:23.600 Fucked up with one leg, give him to the fucking 1:01:23.600 --> 1:01:24.800 creature and. 1:01:24.680 --> 1:01:25.360 Call it the day. 1:01:25.400 --> 1:01:28.560 But especially when y'all started shooting the creature and he's 1:01:28.560 --> 1:01:33.400 not dying. They didn't give me enough to accept why 1:01:33.560 --> 1:01:36.320 the captain was like, oh, yeah, this guy's on our ship. 1:01:36.560 --> 1:01:39.840 Were protecting him even if it cost the lives of 1:01:39.960 --> 1:01:41.880 like six or seven of my crew members. 1:01:42.360 --> 1:01:43.720 It didn't make any sense to me. 1:01:44.160 --> 1:01:45.720 Didn't some of them say to give him. 1:01:46.320 --> 1:01:49.360 Yes, they were at the door, like, bro, hand him over, 1:01:50.360 --> 1:01:52.080 because that motherfucker looks crazy. 1:01:52.160 --> 1:01:54.640 Hand him over. So yeah, I didn't. 1:01:54.920 --> 1:01:57.080 I'm assuming again, I only watched it once, so I'm 1:01:57.080 --> 1:01:58.440 assuming I missed something. 1:02:00.280 --> 1:02:03.320 Nonah, he just decided to protect him. 1:02:04.360 --> 1:02:05.919 I can only assume that. I guess. 1:02:06.000 --> 1:02:08.480 Once he took out the three barrel gun and shot 1:02:08.560 --> 1:02:10.720 him and suck him in the ocean, he thought that 1:02:10.720 --> 1:02:11.280 they were saved. 1:02:11.280 --> 1:02:11.920 But yeah, you're right. 1:02:12.000 --> 1:02:15.320 When he came back and he heard him coming back, 1:02:15.360 --> 1:02:16.840 and when he opened the door, it was it was 1:02:16.920 --> 1:02:20.000 him because he remember he thought that the crew was 1:02:20.000 --> 1:02:20.920 getting rowdy again. 1:02:21.360 --> 1:02:22.800 He was like, I'll go take it this and it 1:02:22.920 --> 1:02:25.280 was this bit motherfuck And the crew. 1:02:25.200 --> 1:02:26.080 Was like, yeah, we let him. 1:02:28.440 --> 1:02:30.800 You see this motherfucker right, You the dumbass that kept 1:02:30.800 --> 1:02:32.560 this whole partner over here on the fucking ship. 1:02:32.600 --> 1:02:33.640 We could have been into this. 1:02:35.080 --> 1:02:38.800 Yeah, but but yeah, I thought I thought the captain saying, nah, 1:02:38.800 --> 1:02:40.840 we're going home, which I don't blame him. It was like, Bro, 1:02:40.960 --> 1:02:43.240 this big ass motherfucker out here. I don't know what 1:02:43.320 --> 1:02:45.560 else is out here. We turning around and were going home. 1:02:45.840 --> 1:02:47.960 See, I took it as he didn't want to risk 1:02:48.080 --> 1:02:50.720 the lives of any more of his crew, so he 1:02:50.800 --> 1:02:52.919 realized it's just not worth it. Let's just go home 1:02:52.960 --> 1:02:54.760 so everybody could be safe and done. 1:02:55.000 --> 1:02:55.240 Yeah. 1:02:55.560 --> 1:02:59.560 Yeah, the captain was showing the same sort of arrogance 1:02:59.600 --> 1:03:03.760 and stuff that Victor was doing as well, so him 1:03:04.040 --> 1:03:08.120 changing his mind. Listening to their stories, he realized it 1:03:08.160 --> 1:03:10.919 was like, there's because think about it, like just even 1:03:10.920 --> 1:03:13.680 when I think it opened, like he ran up on ice, 1:03:14.640 --> 1:03:18.480 So right now, you're a mission is a failure, and 1:03:18.520 --> 1:03:21.120 you're right like if you keep going, you're going to 1:03:21.240 --> 1:03:24.640 basically follow the same path and lead into like inevitable 1:03:24.680 --> 1:03:25.360 possible death. 1:03:26.240 --> 1:03:29.160 So I think you listening to the story, he realized 1:03:29.160 --> 1:03:30.600 it was like, Nah, we're gonna get up out of here. 1:03:30.720 --> 1:03:35.160 Plus, you know they making motherfuckers up and ship, so 1:03:35.360 --> 1:03:36.720 the motherfuckers out of nothing. 1:03:38.160 --> 1:03:41.360 Nobody told me nothing like that, making motherfuckers out here 1:03:42.200 --> 1:03:42.720 and they're. 1:03:42.520 --> 1:03:44.840 Strong as fun. Yeah, we're out of here. 1:03:44.880 --> 1:03:51.920 I'm going on a blunderbuss. Shouldn't ship. Oh we drowned him. 1:03:51.320 --> 1:03:54.520 And Victor told him was like, Nah, he coming back 1:03:53.640 --> 1:03:55.480 at you think he's bad? 1:03:57.600 --> 1:04:00.440 Yeah, yeah, yeah, the way you got I. 1:04:00.400 --> 1:04:03.200 Was telling him, like I was telling him that. 1:04:03.200 --> 1:04:04.960 That was one part I meant to mention earlier that 1:04:05.240 --> 1:04:07.760 I was very confused about, is why they even kept 1:04:07.880 --> 1:04:08.680 Victor on the ship. 1:04:09.680 --> 1:04:12.600 They had no they owed Victor nothing. They just found 1:04:12.680 --> 1:04:13.400 him out in the snow. 1:04:14.360 --> 1:04:16.440 And this captain was willing to risk the lives of 1:04:16.520 --> 1:04:20.640 multiple crew members to keep him on this ship protected that. 1:04:21.360 --> 1:04:23.280 That's not like a captain to do that. No, a 1:04:23.320 --> 1:04:25.320 captain is like, this is my crew. I care about 1:04:25.320 --> 1:04:28.240 my crew. You're a random ass person. You can go. 1:04:29.480 --> 1:04:31.000 Was he royals heal or something like that? 1:04:31.800 --> 1:04:33.600 He was just a random person in the tent that 1:04:33.680 --> 1:04:34.160 blew up. 1:04:34.280 --> 1:04:36.680 Are y'all sure he wasn't They weren't going to get 1:04:37.280 --> 1:04:38.880 him or something like I was. 1:04:39.000 --> 1:04:41.040 Like I said, I was saying, I missed something. 1:04:41.320 --> 1:04:43.280 No, I think I know there was a Danis ship. 1:04:43.360 --> 1:04:46.800 They weren't going to wait going to get who Victor? Nah, No, 1:04:46.840 --> 1:04:48.480 they definitely weren't on the way to get Victor. 1:04:48.560 --> 1:04:51.080 No, they were going somewhere else. They had just ran up. 1:04:51.120 --> 1:04:54.600 They got ice and then they found Victor out there 1:04:54.640 --> 1:04:56.000 with those dogs. 1:04:56.040 --> 1:04:58.640 Because remember they were hammergray with the pips and stuff 1:04:58.640 --> 1:05:02.600 trying to get free, and one of the crew members asked, 1:05:02.920 --> 1:05:04.840 if they get free when they go home. He was like, 1:05:05.040 --> 1:05:05.840 we're gonna keep going. 1:05:06.760 --> 1:05:06.960 Yeah. 1:05:06.960 --> 1:05:08.520 But they were on a mission. I don't know what 1:05:08.560 --> 1:05:11.520 the mission was, but it wasn't to find Victor, which kind. 1:05:11.360 --> 1:05:14.120 Of set up the whole movie, a relentless pursuit of 1:05:14.560 --> 1:05:15.960 this thing, right this. 1:05:16.120 --> 1:05:19.360 Yeah, yeah, now it would make sense if we did 1:05:19.440 --> 1:05:19.880 miss that. 1:05:20.280 --> 1:05:22.840 But I don't think this guy knew who he was 1:05:22.880 --> 1:05:25.040 and they were trying to protect him. I don't think so. 1:05:25.120 --> 1:05:27.160 I think that that they found out who he was 1:05:27.200 --> 1:05:30.200 once Victor started telling them about the story, because. 1:05:30.000 --> 1:05:31.920 If they knew he was there, there wouldn't really there 1:05:31.920 --> 1:05:33.640 really wouldn't be a reason for him to tell that 1:05:33.680 --> 1:05:35.600 whole story. 1:05:35.640 --> 1:05:37.919 But I am open to being wrong, and I'm open 1:05:37.960 --> 1:05:40.240 to saying that I missed something because that part didn't make. 1:05:40.120 --> 1:05:40.560 Sense to me. 1:05:41.440 --> 1:05:44.720 Yeah, could were going to the North Pole, right, that's it, 1:05:45.000 --> 1:05:48.240 and you know trapped in they discovered him. 1:05:48.360 --> 1:05:50.640 Yeah yeah, so yeah, they didn't know who he was. 1:05:50.880 --> 1:05:53.400 And after after six of your dudes, seven of your 1:05:53.480 --> 1:05:55.480 dudes got fucking killed by this big ass creature. And 1:05:55.480 --> 1:05:57.720 the creature says, look, all I want is him, and 1:05:57.760 --> 1:06:02.400 you're talking about no, why why dude, let this motherfucker go? 1:06:02.680 --> 1:06:05.240 Yeah, yeah, that is confusing because I was thinking they 1:06:05.320 --> 1:06:08.920 must notice, motherfucker right, Why why are they not releasing him? 1:06:09.120 --> 1:06:09.840 Didn't make sense. 1:06:09.880 --> 1:06:10.919 I thought this line was good. 1:06:10.920 --> 1:06:13.520 He said, while you were alive, while you were all alive, 1:06:13.600 --> 1:06:15.479 what recourse do you have but to live? 1:06:16.440 --> 1:06:16.720 Yeah? 1:06:17.480 --> 1:06:21.760 The monster said, yeah that she was dope. Yeah, this 1:06:21.920 --> 1:06:24.000 was a this was a good This was a good ending. Man, 1:06:24.680 --> 1:06:26.880 it was a really good ending, him just walking out 1:06:26.880 --> 1:06:29.480 and just looking out into the sun and then crying. 1:06:29.760 --> 1:06:30.280 At the end. 1:06:30.680 --> 1:06:34.120 Yeah, it's just sad that he still doesn't have a companion. 1:06:34.200 --> 1:06:39.320 He's gonna have to live by himself. Yeah, you ain't 1:06:39.320 --> 1:06:40.400 getting a holes looking like that. 1:06:41.960 --> 1:06:42.960 I thought this was interests. 1:06:42.960 --> 1:06:45.320 We wrapped up well the one hole he got. 1:06:48.120 --> 1:06:55.959 Yeah, that ultimately human and men or like monsters, and 1:06:56.120 --> 1:07:00.640 you know, here's a creature that was born, uh you 1:07:00.680 --> 1:07:07.960 know without violence, you know, a love and innocence to him. 1:07:08.000 --> 1:07:11.720 But the cruelty of other men, of other people triggered 1:07:11.800 --> 1:07:13.240 the violent nature in him. 1:07:14.320 --> 1:07:15.880 And that was when it was in I was like 1:07:16.080 --> 1:07:18.240 man like, you know, it's all I think. It's a 1:07:18.240 --> 1:07:22.400 philosophical question. Are humans like born evil or are they 1:07:22.440 --> 1:07:26.360 made evil? Yeah? Yeah, so is it like. 1:07:26.560 --> 1:07:29.280 He didn't want to get whipped and chained up and 1:07:29.320 --> 1:07:32.960 stuff like that. Yeah, they shot at him first with 1:07:33.000 --> 1:07:38.760 the gun. You know, he retaliated Victor wouldn't give him 1:07:38.800 --> 1:07:40.960 the one thing he wanted, which was a companion to 1:07:41.080 --> 1:07:42.800 just love somebody and been off his own. 1:07:43.200 --> 1:07:45.240 But Victor might have also been like, I don't have one, 1:07:45.280 --> 1:07:46.480 so why the fuck should I make you? 1:07:47.920 --> 1:07:49.840 And what did he say? He said, you would indulge 1:07:49.880 --> 1:07:51.680 me in love, I will indulge in rage. So it 1:07:51.760 --> 1:07:53.440 was like, you wouldn't give me love, so I have 1:07:53.840 --> 1:07:56.200 no choice but to go the opposite way. So yeah, 1:07:56.280 --> 1:07:57.960 I mean it was it's you know, it's a it's 1:07:57.960 --> 1:07:59.720 a good aspiration into that. 1:08:00.160 --> 1:08:03.320 So I'm definitely looking forward to watching this again. 1:08:04.240 --> 1:08:05.320 Yeah. 1:08:05.360 --> 1:08:07.920 So, and I'm gonna go watch Pinocchio because I have 1:08:07.960 --> 1:08:10.040 a feeling that that's really good too. But Guermo del 1:08:10.120 --> 1:08:11.840 Toro was fucking he's really good. 1:08:12.000 --> 1:08:14.520 I heard it was. I'm pretty sure I heard it 1:08:14.560 --> 1:08:15.960 was good. It's in my Netflix. Q. 1:08:16.439 --> 1:08:17.400 Oh, it's on Netflix. 1:08:18.200 --> 1:08:19.960 Yeah, I checked it's still on Netflix. 1:08:21.680 --> 1:08:25.640 I don't have to watch fucking Oppenheimer's next week though, 1:08:26.280 --> 1:08:29.559 open Oh yeah, that's my solo I forgot. 1:08:29.680 --> 1:08:31.679 I really don't do not want to watch that all. 1:08:31.720 --> 1:08:34.719 But anyway, Yeah, this was good, man, this was really 1:08:34.760 --> 1:08:36.599 fucking good. I would have I would have been happy 1:08:36.600 --> 1:08:41.000 if I saw this in the theater. Excellent acting, a 1:08:41.080 --> 1:08:43.120 really good story. Yeah it was good. 1:08:43.320 --> 1:08:43.479 Yeah. 1:08:43.520 --> 1:08:47.400 I didn't expect this sort of story because you know, 1:08:47.479 --> 1:08:53.120 most Hollywood always make Frankenstein this violent monster, so expect 1:08:53.160 --> 1:08:54.200 to get this at all. 1:08:54.640 --> 1:08:57.439 Well, actually they make Frankenstein's monster. 1:09:03.439 --> 1:09:04.880 But yeah, I agree. 1:09:05.000 --> 1:09:07.600 But when I when I saw the original poster, I 1:09:07.640 --> 1:09:09.160 didn't know it was Germo del Toro. 1:09:09.680 --> 1:09:12.160 So when this was first being huh, I didn't either. 1:09:12.240 --> 1:09:12.479 Yeah. 1:09:12.560 --> 1:09:14.200 Yes, when it was first advertised, I was like, I 1:09:14.280 --> 1:09:17.000 don't care. It's gonna be another story of the Franksi's 1:09:17.040 --> 1:09:18.160 monster going around. 1:09:19.040 --> 1:09:21.080 I don't care. But when I saw his name, I 1:09:21.120 --> 1:09:24.880 was like, oh, no, this is gonna be good. So yeah, 1:09:24.880 --> 1:09:25.479 he killed it. 1:09:25.920 --> 1:09:27.760 Yeah, well he did a good job. He did a 1:09:27.800 --> 1:09:28.439 good job here. 1:09:29.040 --> 1:09:31.200 All right, Well we'll leave it there, man, let us 1:09:31.200 --> 1:09:34.759 know what you you gotta start about this movie. Definitely 1:09:34.760 --> 1:09:36.720 feel like I don't know if it was discussed a 1:09:36.720 --> 1:09:39.559 lot at the beginning of the year, I don't even know, 1:09:39.760 --> 1:09:41.920 but it's it's it's it's a hit so far, a 1:09:41.920 --> 1:09:42.960 lot of people are loving it. 1:09:43.640 --> 1:09:45.200 I knew it was coming, but I kept getting it 1:09:45.240 --> 1:09:48.200 confused with The Bride, And when I saw the trailer 1:09:48.200 --> 1:09:49.519 for The Bride, I was like, Oh, I don't give 1:09:49.520 --> 1:09:50.479 a fuck about none of this. 1:09:51.520 --> 1:09:54.599 So but what got you guys? Next time we out Peace,