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Speaker 3: The Frames per Second Podcast. What up everybody?

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Speaker 4: And welcome to another episode of the France second Podcast.

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Speaker 4: My name is Kenniz Beyan joining him on the show,

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Speaker 4: I got Mike and Rod whatever, y'all.

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Speaker 1: What's up man?

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Speaker 4: We are here to review the new movie Frankenstein by uh,

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Speaker 4: how do you say his name?

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Speaker 3: Gilmor thorough.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he did Shape of Water. I he won for that?

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Speaker 1: Actually yeah, hands Labyrinth Devil's back.

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Speaker 3: Isn't he hit a miss?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 3: Can he be?

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Speaker 1: Most of them are, for the most part.

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Speaker 6: I haven't seen anything I haven't liked yet I can think.

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Speaker 5: Of at least did you watch the Pinocchio one. I

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Speaker 5: did not watch Pinocchio. I did not watch Pinocchio, but

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Speaker 5: I heard it was good though, I just I just

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Speaker 2: I don't even think I knew about it until after

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Speaker 2: it come out and been out for a minute.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I made a chance to check it out. But yeah.

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Speaker 3: He also, you know has hell Boy that's it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to find I was trying to figure what.

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Speaker 3: The other Pacific rialm play too.

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Speaker 1: See. I like Specific Room. It's not like a movie

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Speaker 4: I go to go see it, but it was it

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Speaker 4: was It's a weird movie because I don't think it's

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Speaker 3: This one I could just watch.

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Speaker 5: Whatever, solid like, Oh that was my god. I can't

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Speaker 3: But did you feel like you wasted the time with

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Speaker 1: I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I was pleasantly surprised that I like this.

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Speaker 5: I think I just went in and with like just

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Speaker 5: lower expectations, like okay, what is this they got on there?

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Speaker 1: On your notion, I was like, okay, Frankistan.

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Speaker 5: Because they're supposed to it's supposed to be a Frankistan

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Speaker 1: Who's in it? That's the Bride you're thinking of the

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Speaker 1: Bride of Frank That.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's called it's called and what's what's Batman?

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Speaker 5: Robert christ Bell? Yeah, he plays is Frankistan Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems good though I don't know, it seems

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Speaker 5: But so yeah, I was like they trying to get

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Speaker 5: But no, man, it's I thought it was solid. I

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Speaker 2: This was definitely this should have been in the theater.

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Speaker 4: Oh shit. And I watched it twice. I watched it

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Speaker 5: I didn't know it was him going in watching him like,

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Speaker 2: Been trying to break that role of being like this disgusting, bully.

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Speaker 4: Now I thought it was after, you know, the first

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh Jesus Christ, yeah, he's done better.

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Speaker 4: And but Astar Isaac was giving me problems because I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: Was like, oh my god, too campy.

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Speaker 1: It might have been the nineties.

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Speaker 4: The movie begins in the Arctic where we found out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I think it was a good idea

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Speaker 1: I was like, fuck, who is this? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I was gonna watch it anyway, but I've had so

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Speaker 2: the way that they kicked it off immediately with Frankenstein

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Speaker 2: I'm here for this.

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Speaker 4: Uh, so they definitely did a good I thought it

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Speaker 5: Well, I was just wondering, like like when he was

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Speaker 1: Well that's what he said.

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Speaker 5: I'm just going literal like what he literally told his father,

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Speaker 5: Then that doesn't sound like he's much of a better

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Speaker 4: But he never set out to really be a doctor.

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Speaker 5: He practiced like human anatomy and how that works. His

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Speaker 2: And he didn't even want to do that. The dad

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so even if he did literally say I'm going

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they were definitely afraid of what he actually I

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Speaker 4: Through because of that reason, they should it be kicked out?

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Speaker 6: They should have kicked him out.

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Speaker 3: That's like a fool. But he had the thing working.

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Speaker 3: It called an apple. It ate from the apple.

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Speaker 1: Even something that groundbreaking. They Oh, I don't think they

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Speaker 5: Something about God, God, you're tempering with with God's work

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Speaker 4: him a tower for experience and stuff like that.

447
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 5: I thought it was dope with him that. Well, she's

448
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 5: a good actor too, so they hat had start casting.

449
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 5: But he I thought it was dope, and he was

450
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 5: able to realize like, you killed his ass because he

451
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 5: was about to die anyway, m or whatever.

452
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 1: So I thought that was cool.

453
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 5: He that he that he caught on to like because

454
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,479
Speaker 5: he made it seem like he just pulled a pin

455
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:16,360
Speaker 5: out of and he died.

456
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 1: He's like, no, he was about to die anyway. He

457
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 1: just didn't want them to see that.

458
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 4: But you know what I mean. He remember he said

459
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 4: we're God. So God creates life and God takes it away.

460
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 1: But that went along with this whole thing. But if

461
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 1: he didn't do that, it'd be like he failed.

462
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah yeah so but yeah, so he's gonna

463
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 4: basically fund the whole thing. He said he's gonna ask

464
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 4: for a favor. Later we as Mike mention it was

465
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 4: because he was Dinad syphilis. Uh because he tossed the

466
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 4: apple to him or was that a peach?

467
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,959
Speaker 3: It was an apple, right fruit? Yeah? I thought it was.

468
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 3: If it was an apple.

469
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 4: I thought it was interesting because he tossed the apple

470
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 4: to the create creation and he talsks the apple to him.

471
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 3: Apple of course is representation.

472
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 1: Life.

473
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 5: Yeah so I didn't even put that together.

474
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 4: So but yeah, so he's a sponsor shout out to casino.

475
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 4: Uh so Victor reconnects with his brother William, who is

476
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 4: also engaged to Erlander's niece and Elizabeth, and there's an

477
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 4: emotional connection that he has with her.

478
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 3: Victor falls in love with her.

479
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 4: How foul was it that he was pushing upon his

480
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 4: brother's girl, bro pretty.

481
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 2: Found extremely foul, But it was expected for someone like

482
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 2: Victor who just wants and Plus again, they were kind

483
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 2: of implying the similarity between her and his mother.

484
00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

485
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 6: That's why I think that they got her to play

486
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 6: the two roles.

487
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: So it was really he was so infatuated with her

488
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 2: because she reminded him of his mother.

489
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 5: I didn't think about that. Yeah, I didn't even think

490
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 5: about that. How did you get that?

491
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: Which part that he that he saw her his mother

492
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: and her type because it was the same actor.

493
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 2: Why would they Why would they get the same actor

494
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 2: to play both of these roles.

495
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 1: I didn't realize she was playing the mother something wrong, No,

496
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: she played both. I looked it up. She played both.

497
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 5: They just did something with her face, like they did

498
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,719
Speaker 5: something right here. So I didn't realize it was it

499
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 5: was her.

500
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 1: I knew she was.

501
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 5: I knew she was the obviously the girl, the wife

502
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 5: but I didn't know she was the mother, But.

503
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know that. That's what they were leaning

504
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 1: into that he saw his mother and her. That's what

505
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 1: I think.

506
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that that makes a lot of sense. I'm like, bro,

507
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 4: like outside of you just thinking that everything belongs to you, right,

508
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 4: why are you going after that? That's clearly he engaged

509
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 4: to your brother, Like what the hell?

510
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 3: Now? I don't think he really had a relationship with

511
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 3: his brother, but still.

512
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: He loved his brother. Apparently, Yeah, he loved his brother.

513
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 4: He just yeah, yeah, I didn't think they were close, Like, no,

514
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 4: they weren't close.

515
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, he loved them though.

516
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 4: So anyway, they were talking about how to get this

517
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 4: thing done and Victor was still having some issues.

518
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 3: They mentioned something.

519
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 4: About eveling table uh and uh and all these different tables,

520
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 4: and there was a fifth table that showed the secret

521
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 4: circlar system needed to expand his creation, and that's where

522
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 4: he agreed to fund this endeavor in exchange for the favorite.

523
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 3: Down the line, there.

524
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 4: Was a conversation that was taking place between because Victor's

525
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 4: pushing up on Elizabeth, and they had a conversation at

526
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 4: the table where Elizabeth basically kind of walked him down

527
00:25:51,359 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 4: and talked about war and how war parallels with Victor's ambitions.

528
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 4: She said that, you know, soldiers fight for something honorable

529
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 4: and saying something about like death is not and they're

530
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 4: doing all of this stuff while the people that are

531
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 4: making all the decisions are sleeping well at night and

532
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 4: home comfortable while others pay for it in blood. Mike,

533
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 4: what did you think about the conversation or what she

534
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 4: was saying to Victor and basically saying that that's basically.

535
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: Vict Yeah, I mean, I think she was kind of

536
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 2: implying that Victor, you know, wasn't doing this for any

537
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 2: kind of good reason, that he wasn't helping anybody by

538
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 2: doing this.

539
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 1: I think she just kind of called him on his bullshit.

540
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: She could see right through it immediately.

541
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if that comes from maybe the brother

542
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: has said stuff about him in the past, because obviously

543
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: we learned at the end that the brother didn't really

544
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: like him either. But yeah, she wasn't mentioning words with

545
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: him at all, like he want some bullshit?

546
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, what'd you think about that conversation?

547
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 5: Rock this This this part of the story was kind

548
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 5: of confusing to me because, on one hand, she seemed

549
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 5: like she she was calling on mine own ship, but

550
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 5: on another hand, seemed like she was entertaining and she

551
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 5: was kind of flirting with him. Yeah, like like, so, yeah,

552
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 5: I this part kind of confused me.

553
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: Honestly, me too. Yeah I didn't. I didn't understand what

554
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: was happening.

555
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 5: It was like, you make it because you know exactly

556
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 5: what you're doing, Like y'all literally left your brother there

557
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 5: at the house. Why y'all went on a fucking adventure.

558
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he took a couple of dates.

559
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: It was weird, Like, yeah, I didn't get that part.

560
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: So, but she's also weird though, and she kind of

561
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: implied that she's kind of a weirdo.

562
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I mean she wanted freakings out.

563
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: Yeah she was.

564
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 2: She she well, that was the whole reason she wanted

565
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: Frankenstein was because she felt like a weirdo.

566
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah what I'm saying.

567
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 2: So I was confused, like you, I was like, why

568
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: is she flirting with him and she acts like she

569
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: doesn't like it?

570
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't.

571
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was it was like a connection there, but

572
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 4: it seemed like it was more on Victor side than hers,

573
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 4: Like she entertained it but she also rejects it at

574
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 4: the same time. But yeah, I think you know, what

575
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 4: she was saying, you know, connects further on down the line,

576
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 4: you know, kind of you know, for illustrating the themes

577
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 4: of power and the cost that comes with it at

578
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 4: the expense of other people, you know. And Victor's pursuing

579
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 4: her definitely showed that he's selfish, you know, above anything else,

580
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 4: which is how he even got started on this whole

581
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 4: thing anyway.

582
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: It was through a very selfish endeavor.

583
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 4: So moving on, Erlander grows impatient and he's starting to

584
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 4: demand progress as his own health continues to decline on

585
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 4: beknownst to us.

586
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 3: I thought this was interesting.

587
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 4: So at one part he was people were being hanged,

588
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 4: and he was checking different people for certain things that

589
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 4: he could use for the construction of his body. But

590
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 4: because of the impatience and the war ending, which connecting

591
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 4: back to what Elizabeth said, he starts harvesting bodies from soldiers,

592
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 4: which further connects what she said to him to uh

593
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 4: to to Victor as well. And these are body parts

594
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 4: from executed criminals and dead soldiers. I thought it was

595
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 4: also interesting Elizabeth described uh. I think she was describing

596
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 4: a moth as well, having three hearts multiple something about

597
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 4: white white blood, and she also mentioned that choice is

598
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 4: the seat of the soul, which was interested well. And

599
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 4: then there was somebody asked, uh, which part of the

600
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 4: creature of the which part of the soldiers has the soul?

601
00:29:54,800 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 3: God forgot who says that? That was later on. Okay, okay, but.

602
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 4: What you guys think about them like heartlight taking the

603
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 4: bodies of dead soldiers? Did you guys connect the soldier

604
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 4: part to what Elizabeth was.

605
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 3: Saying at all?

606
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: I did to which part?

607
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 4: Remember she called basically what was calling about the soldiers?

608
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 4: And then.

609
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: What was she saying about the soldiers trying to in

610
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: the in the parts?

611
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 4: Oh well, she didn't say anything about the parts. I

612
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 4: just thought it was interesting that Frankenstein was a symbol

613
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 4: from the bodies of dead soldiers and Elizabeth basically said

614
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 4: that he was basically accused him of being the accused

615
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 4: him of making decisions for soldiers that go off to war.

616
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 4: So I thought that it was interesting he was harvesting

617
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 4: part body parts from haying criminals and soldiers killed in

618
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 4: the in the crimean war.

619
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 3: I think that was going on since though, Yeah.

620
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 5: To me, I mean you think about like like people

621
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 5: being organed oners. I mean, obviously you got to ask

622
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 5: whether you want to be an organ owner, but yeah,

623
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 5: it kind of was in line with that for me,

624
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 5: and I thought it was interesting him basically examining the

625
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 5: bodies to see what parts and that's what I'm saying

626
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 5: about syphilis, like what parts are still usable to make.

627
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: Or not? Clean?

628
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 5: Isn't the word I'm looking for, but like a yeah,

629
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 5: to make a clean, healthy body? Yeah, clean healthy body.

630
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

631
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's like, you know, it might be just

632
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: a thigh here or foot there or whatever.

633
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 5: So I thought that was because I don't think I

634
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 5: remember seeing that in any of the Frankenstein movies for

635
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 5: it to be that intricate, right, So I thought that

636
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 5: was a nice detail here to see how how into

637
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 5: it he was like, Okay, man, it has to be this,

638
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 5: like it has to be that or whatever versus like.

639
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: I feel, I haven't seen Frankstein movies in.

640
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 5: So long, But the arm of a thief or some

641
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 5: ship or whatever or something like that, you know what

642
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 5: I'm saying, It wouldn't.

643
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: It was this very service level where it went in

644
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: deeper here.

645
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, they like that. Yeah, when she was describing. I

646
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 4: think it was a moth or something. She said something

647
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 4: about it being bewitching and odd and so nobody having

648
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 4: three hearts and something else. But I thought that was

649
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 4: that was interesting because Frankenstein is basically assembled and put

650
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 4: together at a.

651
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: Bunch of parks.

652
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,719
Speaker 4: But yeah, she was fascinating with this creature that had

653
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 4: all of these things that don't seem to that shouldn't

654
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 4: fit together, but fit together. And that's basically what ended

655
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 4: up being Frankenstein. And that's what she mentioned. The whole

656
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 4: choice is the seat of the soul? Did you guys

657
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 4: like I guess a better question is did you guys

658
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 4: like them? Showing like the building of Frankenstean and the electricity,

659
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 4: the building the castle which the castle was a war

660
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 4: castle too, was attached to the war as well.

661
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: Well.

662
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: Actually they didn't build Frankenstein. They built Frankenstein's Monster.

663
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 4: And I said that earlier too, and I did it

664
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 4: again because I said the Franken style, I don't have

665
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 4: the monster, don't have a name, it's not the name.

666
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 4: And I did it anyway. I blame society alive. Wasn't

667
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 4: y'all waiting on his alive?

668
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: No? No, I thought that was that would be kind

669
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: of lame if they did that. I was actually a

670
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: little not bummed, but kind of like not happy that

671
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: they actually still use the lightning things.

672
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: That's not in the book. Oh the lightning thing isn't

673
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: in the book. Wow, how did he do it in

674
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: the book? How do they think? They just I don't

675
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: think he had to ignite them.

676
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly how it went, but I always

677
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 2: remember being I remember when I read the book, it

678
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: was after seeing the movies and being like, oh, they

679
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: didn't use the lightning, but no, that's.

680
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: Not in the book. Interesting.

681
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it wasn't an igor there either, No, there was. Well,

682
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 5: they kind of made him look like Ego when he

683
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 5: was limping around and ship. Yeah, I made Victor look

684
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 5: like times.

685
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: When he got laiblowing off.

686
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 3: So did the construction montage? Did it work for you? Right?

687
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like the intricate way they

688
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 5: were doing it, I think it did work for me.

689
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 5: And now if you're talking about like the lighting part,

690
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 5: yeah that worked too, Yeah, because I felt like it

691
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 5: was still different from what we've seen, you know what

692
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like the fighting and then oh, yeah, he

693
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 5: thought this is the way he fought back and forth

694
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 5: with the with the sponsor or whatever. Oh man, man,

695
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 5: yeah it's crazy and whatnot. So yeah, I like I

696
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 5: liked all this. He was gonna see it through. He's like,

697
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 5: when we come too far, you will not funk this up.

698
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: I was crazy.

699
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because yeah, he was about to sabotage by

700
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 4: throwing that thing off. I forgot to mention that Victor

701
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 4: is such a piece of ship. Remember when he was

702
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 4: keeping his brother back at the with the he said,

703
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 4: oh yeah, silver is not a good conduct or silver

704
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 4: is a conductor.

705
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

706
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he had looked at his brother like with disgust.

707
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 4: He was like, naw, this ain't right. You need to

708
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 4: stay back a few more days. It looked like William

709
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 4: picked up on that shit too. He was just like

710
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 4: what the Yeah, it was like, what are you talking about?

711
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 3: It was like yeah, but anyway.

712
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,440
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723
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Speaker 4: So, but he electrocuted him and he thought he failed.

724
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 4: He went to sleep, when then he woke up, the

725
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 4: monster is standing above him.

726
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 3: Mike, how frightened?

727
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: Would you have been a piston ship? The fuck? Can

728
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: you stand at the bottom of my bed? You weirdo?

729
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 1: Get out of here.

730
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 2: But now that scene was well done, especially the way

731
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: they lighted it where it was just like you could

732
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 2: see but it was still really dark.

733
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. This scene was good.

734
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:30,479
Speaker 3: Yeah.

735
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 4: So Elizabeth and Williams show up because she hasn't heard

736
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 4: from her uncle.

737
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 3: She is getting concerned, so they drive up to the

738
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 3: castle and uh and the and the mean.

739
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 4: During that time, Victor chained the creature in the tower

740
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 4: and basically treats him.

741
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 3: Like a child.

742
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 4: As clear as day, the parallels between how he was

743
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 4: raised and how he treated his dad.

744
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't even think about that. He was abuse

745
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 3: the dad was hitting him.

746
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 6: He was doing the exact same thing the monster.

747
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 2: Yep, that the dad was doing him because the dad

748
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 2: was always beating up on him because he thought he

749
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: wasn't showing his intelligence enough, you know.

750
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: And Victor did the same thing to the creature because

751
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: all they.

752
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 4: Was saying was Victor over and over again, and he

753
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 4: didn't have patience. He thought that he should already know,

754
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 4: you know, that out of it should be some form

755
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 4: of intelligence, but he wasn't. It eventually got there, but

756
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 4: but not fast enough, you know. And I think also

757
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 4: the creature, you know, showed the sun and you know,

758
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 4: could which could have a double meaning as well. It

759
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 4: was like, oh, yes, the sun bring warmth, life, revival,

760
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 4: et ceter et cetera. But yeah, yeah, he was just

761
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 4: very abusive to this creature. And that's when Elizabeth said,

762
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 4: of all the parts that made him wears the soul.

763
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 4: That's when she asked that and calls basically Victor a

764
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 4: monster for mistreating him. At this point, is Victor turned

765
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 4: out to be the villain of this story retreating the creature?

766
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 6: Absolutely, I thought so, at least so.

767
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 4: He lied claiming that the creature killed Erlander. He says,

768
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 4: the tower blaze. The creature starts screaming his name, and

769
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 4: he has second thoughts and he runs back, but it's

770
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 4: too late.

771
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 3: It displows and.

772
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 1: He starts and he gives up on him because he's thinking.

773
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 5: He was like, I guess dosile, Like he was just

774
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 5: like he couldn't, like the only thing he could say

775
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 5: was Victor, Victor, Victor. He's like, man, give me a

776
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,959
Speaker 5: reason to keep you alive. Yeah, that's why.

777
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 2: That's why the parallel with his dad was so real here,

778
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 2: because he abandoned him because he thought the thing was stupid.

779
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 2: So he's just like, this isn't worth my time.

780
00:38:58,719 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: I failed.

781
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 2: Now Why he had to light the whole thing on fire,

782
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure.

783
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 5: That destroyed all the evidence, That destroyed everything he was doing.

784
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: The doctor being there, it destroys, that destroys everything.

785
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: But it's like you wouldn't just because you failed this time,

786
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: you don't want to try again, you don't want to

787
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 2: do with another body.

788
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 4: Like I think he may have been disappointed in this creation,

789
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 4: like it wasn't perfect. I don't think failed, Yeah, I

790
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 4: think yeah, I think he was like, yeah, I did

791
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 4: everything that I could have possibly done.

792
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: This isn't gonna work.

793
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 5: That this wasn't a great idea to try to recreate

794
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 5: life or keep life.

795
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: Living or something.

796
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 4: I wonder also, did he pick up on the vibes

797
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 4: of Elizabeth and the creature as well and he was

798
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 4: just jealous?

799
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 5: Now I don't think that was the case. Shit, Oh

800
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 5: what happened towards the end, like when he said it

801
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 5: give me another reason, and then when he said.

802
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: What he said, Elizabeth, he's like Elizabeth.

803
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 6: I thought that was this part when that happened.

804
00:39:58,960 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 3: Elizabeth said.

805
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 4: I don't think he was around when the creature said Elizabeth.

806
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 5: Not the first time, but they said he heard him

807
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 5: the second time, right, and that was and after that's

808
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 5: when he set the place on fire.

809
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 3: He was gonna set it on fire, regardless, I don't

810
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 3: think so.

811
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: I thought he started beating him.

812
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 3: After he did. He did he said say something else.

813
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 5: Right, No, no, no, no, he was just saying, say something

814
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 5: that will help me keep you alive.

815
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: And then he walked away.

816
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 3: But he was beating him while he was doing that, right, yeah.

817
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 1: Elizabeth, And I thought that pissed him off.

818
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 5: It just it just further confirmed like, okay, yeah, your

819
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 5: definitely did right, right right, Yeah that's all.

820
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 4: Oh so okay, what what No? I was like, yeah,

821
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 4: you know, Michael saying he said Elizabeth. That was the

822
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 4: other thing he said. He was kept saying Victor, Victor, but.

823
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: The other word was Elizabeth. And then that set him off.

824
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: To kill him.

825
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 5: He was gonna kill him regards well, I think he

826
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 5: was gonna kill him regardless. And he was looking for

827
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 5: a reason not to kill him. He's like, for I

828
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 5: like this mask, give me another reason.

829
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,959
Speaker 1: Not to kill you. And he said Victor.

830
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 5: He said, kept saying Victory's like all right, mother fuck

831
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 5: you did so he walked away and right at you know,

832
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 5: then he he said Elizabeth. And I guess that just

833
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 5: wasn't enough for him to keep him alive.

834
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 3: So Victor, did hear him say Elizabeth last time?

835
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: Yes?

836
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 3: Oh, then that was a rap. Then it was at

837
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 3: that point it's a rap. Rap.

838
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: It was already a rap.

839
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 3: But now.

840
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 4: Get the hell out of here. But she, you know, Mike,

841
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 4: you was saying, she's you know, used herself as a

842
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 4: widow or the widow. But yeah, I mean she was

843
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 4: infatuated by this creature and you know, wanted to make

844
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 4: sure it was treated kindly.

845
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, Victor wasn't doing that.

846
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like they could have did a little

847
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 5: bit more with that too. With the connection. I didn't

848
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 5: get the immediate connection between the two.

849
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 2: I was okay with this part just because they kind

850
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: of just implied that it was because she was a

851
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: kind person. She was treated poorly because she was weird

852
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 2: and different. I just wish they did more with any

853
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: of the other relationships with hers, Like I didn't even

854
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 2: get that you and William had any kind of connection whatsoever,

855
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: you know, And like you said earlier, I didn't really

856
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: understand the whole why I'm playing with Victor's feelings like this.

857
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 4: So yeah, so uh, Victor, we see what happened to

858
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 4: his leg? H is Victor's prosthetic leg is simple of

859
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 4: like like father, like son. He also made up a

860
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 4: part too his old ship. His father was well the

861
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 4: creature creature.

862
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: I didn't get that, you said, but possible just asking.

863
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: I didn't get that either. I just got that.

864
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: But I mean it does make sense the whole, Like

865
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't even know they had prosthetics back then.

866
00:42:54,760 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, he did show that he possibly wanted to go

867
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 5: back in form.

868
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 4: Yeah that's yeah, well, you know, it's like, oh my,

869
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 4: you know, I wondered about that, like, did he I mean,

870
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 4: he clearly had to change of heart, but why, you know,

871
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 4: did he want to try to work with them more?

872
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 4: Was this a more of a paternal sort of thing?

873
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: Heard the thing called his name? I think he just

874
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: felt bad, like I'm killing this thing. This is not

875
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 2: just like a project. This is an actual feeling being

876
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 2: that I created.

877
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 3: So but not looking at it like this is my

878
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 3: child too.

879
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I kind of got that feeling. All right.

880
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 4: Well, that wraps it up for Victor's tales, So the

881
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 4: creatures tale is a little quicker. They spent a lot

882
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 4: of time with Victor. But you know, even at the time,

883
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 4: like what the this motherfucker? It is a spot like yeah, really, yeah,

884
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 4: he breezed through this. So yeah, after the displosure, we

885
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 4: see how the creature escaped. Did that that worked for y'all?

886
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 4: Just fine? You crawled through a tunnel, It's all right.

887
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 5: And I knew that was gonna happen when he put

888
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 5: the leaf throat down.

889
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's how you escape, all right.

890
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 4: So yeah, he wander us in the woods, comes across

891
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 4: a deer and approaches him. Gently uh, and then the

892
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 4: hunters attack. I thought it was interesting that the deer

893
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 4: wasn't afraid of him, that he was able to walk

894
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 4: right up eat the berries and that. Yeah, no fear

895
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 4: at all. But it's definitely afraid of humans. And we

896
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 4: see why because they popped.

897
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: In holding that motherfucker. I was like, damn, like god, yeah, I.

898
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 6: Was like, y'all, don't shoot deer in the face.

899
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 3: M yeah, they do.

900
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 5: They do so they can eat the meat, because the

901
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 5: because the usually his buck shots or whatever, so they'll

902
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 5: aim for certain parts of the you know, I've never

903
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 5: heard of a hunter shooting nowhere in the head or you're.

904
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: Right, because they used it as a trophy piece, right,

905
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: you're right. I thought that was weird.

906
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 3: It was the eighteen hundred. Maybe they ain't no better.

907
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: They're probably just trying to do that for dramatic effect.

908
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: Because he was feeding it and it shot it right

909
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: in the face.

910
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: That was crazy.

911
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 3: Yapect that to happen, going to.

912
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: Kill the ice the other that like that. I din't

913
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: like seeing that, and.

914
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 3: Then started to shoot his ass.

915
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: Big motherfucker.

916
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 3: They didn't know if that thing was dangerous or not.

917
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 3: They didn't even ask you.

918
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: Something that big and the damn woods hanging out with

919
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: a deer. I'm killing your ass. That's bigfoot. But fuck that.

920
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 5: He still looked like a human though, like like he

921
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 5: had hind legs and arms, and like.

922
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, why did this? What was that?

923
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 4: Nigga was a person and you didn't even ask, You

924
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 4: just started you know, Yeah.

925
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 5: You shot a person. You you you murdered someone. You're

926
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 5: trying to murder somebody.

927
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 3: She first asked questions, I guess, but he wasn't bothering.

928
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: No, he stood up, and they're like, what the fuck?

929
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: What was he doing that? You gotta die, bro?

930
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 6: He was not provoked. Yeah, well he got shot anyway,

931
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 6: that's what they be doing us.

932
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: What the is dad big black?

933
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 4: So anyway, he hides in the middle up fucked up,

934
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 4: but yeah, ship, yeah, he's observing the family through cracks

935
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 4: in the woods. He's helping them. He gets donned the

936
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 4: name Spirit of the Forest by the blind Man. Had

937
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 4: no idea what he was dealing with, this dumb dope.

938
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: I did like this. I did like this section.

939
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 3: This old part where yeah, now him learning how he.

940
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 4: Got his You know, it just shows if Victor just

941
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 4: would have taken some time exactly.

942
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 3: You know, he just wanted to.

943
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 5: They wanted to be exactly. He just wanted to be

944
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 5: there already. Yeah, he saw that, he saw the one

945
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 5: thing he didn't get, you know. Yeah, and he was

946
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 5: repaying the bat like in kindling building a fence, uh,

947
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 5: you know and stuff like that. Didn't do a good

948
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 5: job protecting the fucking the sheep though, jumped over the ship.

949
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 1: He should have been there and scared off them. Damn wolves.

950
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: He didn't even know them.

951
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 4: Mother was a vicious too, bro, are they Yeah that's

952
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 4: how wolves are?

953
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 2: They traveling packsless like that. I just didn't know they

954
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 2: killed people like that. So when it killed the blind man,

955
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 2: that caught me off guard. But yeah, wolves attacking sheep

956
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 2: and killing sheep like that absolutely well.

957
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: I was just saying, like, how the motherfuckers you can

958
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: hit him?

959
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 5: They keep trying to come back at you as like,

960
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 5: That's what I was like, because he was sucking them

961
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 5: up at first, and then it's like it was still

962
00:47:58,239 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 5: trying to come at him.

963
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:00,479
Speaker 1: Yeah.

964
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, the c G I looked a little bad here too,

965
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 6: I was.

966
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 1: I was kind of shocked. This is like a video game.

967
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't the best, but you know.

968
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 4: I liked how he was learning everything, Like when the

969
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 4: family left and he came out there and he was

970
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 4: teaching him how to read and stuff like that, which.

971
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 5: How how because he was holding up the he was

972
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 5: teaching the other kid.

973
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, was reading a whole book.

974
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, he had the there's a lot of words in

975
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 5: those books that probably aren't.

976
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: He had cards, like like he had cards and ship.

977
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 6: He was, yeah, I didn't think about this. That don't

978
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 6: make no damn sense.

979
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: He was a wise man. He was a blind man first.

980
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 5: First, but he knew how to read. Though as long

981
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 5: as you how do you know how because I ain't

982
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 5: seen no braill, he probably has some, especially back then.

983
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 5: I about to tell you they have brail back then.

984
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 4: I think he could see at one point because he

985
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 4: said he was a soldier and.

986
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: He memorized the damn books. It wasn't books he was

987
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: reading them, right, it was it was he was like,

988
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: I said, you're doing cards and ship. So he memorized

989
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: all them cards. I think, so that's crazy.

990
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 3: Uh.

991
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 4: One of the books he read wash Ozymandias, which I

992
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 4: thought was interested Ozamandias King of King and they both

993
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 4: like attempt to create or build these things and fell miserably. Yeah,

994
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 4: I was. I was like, that's has to be intentional.

995
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 4: Why he picked that Ozymanders had a statue and Victor

996
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 4: of course did a human and uh yeah so but

997
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 4: both of them, with their arrogance and mistakes, felt miserably

998
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 4: and I think, uh, that may have been a connection there.

999
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 4: But I thought this line was really really dope when

1000
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 4: he witnessed the wolves and ship like that when he

1001
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 4: says the wolves didn't hate the sheet, and the sheet

1002
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 4: didn't hate the what where hold on?

1003
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: The wolves don't hate the sheep.

1004
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: I don't hate the wolves, but the wolves don't like

1005
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 2: the other wolves, Nick knacked Patty.

1006
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: Man, that's what it sounds like. It's bluefish.

1007
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 4: Whereas that hold on, Uh, what are you trying to say?

1008
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 5: Gold On Man, He's trying to figure it out.

1009
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: Stop being impatient, like fucking frankistar Man.

1010
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just trying to help. He called them a goat.

1011
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 3: I here it is.

1012
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,959
Speaker 4: The hunter didn't hate the wolf. The wolf didn't hate

1013
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 4: the sheep. That's what it was. I don't know where

1014
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 4: to get sheet from, but violence felt inevitab between them,

1015
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 4: and this is the way of the world. They will

1016
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 4: hunt you and kill you just for being who you are?

1017
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 3: Was this a bar?

1018
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: It was a bar? Yeah?

1019
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that ship was tight.

1020
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: It didn't help. Nothing died, didn't blind still got eight.

1021
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: Didn't see that coming, did you?

1022
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 3: But I'm surprised, like he should.

1023
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 4: I know he felt that patchwork skinn of Frankenstein because

1024
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 4: he felt his face.

1025
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 3: He pat him on the head and ship like that.

1026
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 3: That blind man was trustworthy.

1027
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: I didn't care.

1028
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 4: He probably was happy to have a friend. Because they

1029
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 4: bounced them sheep. They were like, yo were out of here. No,

1030
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 4: the family when the sheep got ate the wolf, the

1031
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 4: family was like, yo were.

1032
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 3: Out of here.

1033
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: They left. They didn't leave for good.

1034
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 3: They left for the winter. But the old man didn't leave.

1035
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: They that's the reason they left.

1036
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 3: That's how fronted.

1037
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: They're gonna leave. They're not gonna leave a blind man

1038
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 2: for the whole winter.

1039
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 1: Is that what happened?

1040
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 5: He wanted to stay back. I wanted to stay blind.

1041
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 5: They left him for the whole winter.

1042
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he knew how to get by man. He

1043
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: can't see ship, but he knew how to get Apparently

1044
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: he didn't, because then wolves got his ass.

1045
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 3: He could he should have at least hurt him.

1046
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: In head, right, you ain't got them there power.

1047
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, but no, they love They loved for the winner

1048
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 4: because they were trying to get him to come with him.

1049
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 4: He was like, no, I'm good, he said, I've survived

1050
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 4: plenty of winners.

1051
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: He better take his old ass with you.

1052
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 3: Man left, but doubt man, that was fucked up.

1053
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: That was that's a bad way to die.

1054
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 3: Yeah it is.

1055
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 4: He was still alive too, but he sucked him down,

1056
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 4: wolves up though he skinned one bro.

1057
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: Yeah that was that whole fight ship was insane.

1058
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

1059
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 3: And then the humans he snatched this one motherfucker Joe off.

1060
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 1: He did one that tried to shoot him.

1061
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 3: And they punk ass when he walked by. They're gonna

1062
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 3: get out of the way.

1063
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 4: Were you well, they chased the gun like they were

1064
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 4: doing some Yeah, of course I wouldn't have chased him

1065
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 4: down and shot him with the gun like they did.

1066
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 4: But that's when he realized this mortar. He can't die.

1067
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 4: He died and game back the life. But they didn't

1068
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 4: realize that. No, that's when the creature realized that. He

1069
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I was dead. Next thing I know,

1070
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 4: I woke up.

1071
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: I was still I don't know why they left him

1072
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: different dead though. I feel like they would have you

1073
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 1: would have did.

1074
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 5: Something else with him, with his body or something. He

1075
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 5: just shot him and left him there.

1076
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 4: But realizing that he can't die, he was basically immortal.

1077
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 4: That's when he realized he wants a companion, and that's

1078
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 4: when he went to Victor to ask him to create one. Uh,

1079
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 4: even when she about to get married, bro, he made

1080
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 4: one more damn move rod.

1081
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 3: This motherfucker.

1082
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: Did she slap him here? I believe so.

1083
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 6: I can't if it was here earlier, but she definitely

1084
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 6: slapped it out.

1085
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 3: I think it was here because he heard bad.

1086
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, man still trying to shoot the shop bro.

1087
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 4: And he walked off, and that's when he ran into

1088
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 4: Victor again, asked him to create a companion.

1089
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: He's like, come into the light.

1090
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're hear he said, if you will not

1091
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 4: indulge me in love, I will indulge in rage. Yeah, Mars, yeah,

1092
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 4: because Victor's that Noah, I'm not building.

1093
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 3: You a creature. Why why do you guys think he refused?

1094
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: There was no way for him to anyway. He burned

1095
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: his fucking laboratory down.

1096
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 3: He could have just reassembled everything.

1097
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: Though not no, because remember he had to have his money.

1098
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 4: But let's just say, if he did have it, it

1099
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 4: seemed like it was deeper than.

1100
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: I feel what you're saying, even if he did have it, Like, yeah,

1101
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: that's what it.

1102
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 4: Did, seem like you think it was because he wasn't

1103
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 4: his love for Elizabeth wasn't reciprocated.

1104
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 2: I think it's because it didn't benefit him, so he

1105
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 2: didn't care. He was just like, oh, you need a partner. Cool,

1106
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: good for you, cool story bro, Like I'm not doing

1107
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 2: ship for you.

1108
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh so yeah.

1109
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 4: So anyway, Victor tries to shoot him, but Elizabeth for

1110
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 4: whatever reason, jumped in front of the bullet.

1111
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 2: I don't understand why he pulled the trigger because it

1112
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 2: was like there was hell of time that she jumped

1113
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 2: in front of that damn gun.

1114
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: And you still yeah, this ship was was weird.

1115
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, and uh, she dies and the creatures on the

1116
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 4: creatures took go off to a cave. So she dies,

1117
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 4: and then this is when William basically called Victor out

1118
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 4: from being the monster.

1119
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, because Victor got his head busted in.

1120
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 3: Yeah now William William did. Oh sorry, yeah, William hess

1121
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 3: Williams he heard that shit crack.

1122
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: Yeah that was fucking crazy too.

1123
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think he. I don't know why he refused,

1124
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 4: you know, jealousy maybe because at this point, the creature

1125
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,959
Speaker 4: shows signs of intelligence, it's talking. It tracked him down.

1126
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 4: I think he even acknowledged that. So you didn't completely fail.

1127
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 4: You actually succeeded. You were just impatient. So the one

1128
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 4: thing you were looking to do you actually did. But

1129
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 4: yet maybe you're still looking at it a failure. I

1130
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 4: think if Elizabeth didn't slap him, maybe he would add

1131
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 4: a second change of heart.

1132
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

1133
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 4: But at this point though, he's upset, so he decided

1134
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 4: to chase down the creature. And then we get into

1135
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 4: the final act and you have like this whole cycle

1136
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 4: of violence that keeps coming. So I thought it was funny.

1137
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 4: The creature was dragging Victor by his prosthetic.

1138
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 6: Ly that was foullis ship man, that was fallon ship

1139
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 6: and then broke it.

1140
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a dick man.

1141
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 3: And then he broke his nose.

1142
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 2: Oh that part I had to wind it back because

1143
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 2: I was like, what is he doing? But yeah, that

1144
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 2: was crazy. Oh that was nasty man.

1145
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 4: It was like he was toying with because you know,

1146
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 4: he could kill these things with ease, but he just

1147
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 4: wanted to toy with him and make him suffer, which

1148
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 4: was interesting. But but yeah, so Victor go get dynamite

1149
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 4: and he's asking the hunt like big game or whatever,

1150
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 4: and then we see what happened in the see who

1151
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 4: actually happened the part that we didn't see where Victor

1152
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 4: basically the creature hus him down he's in the tent. Yeah,

1153
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 4: and then he basically blows himself up with the dynamite,

1154
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 4: which was fucking insane.

1155
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 2: So this was another part that I didn't love because

1156
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 2: he blew himself up. But okay, so we're supposed to

1157
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 2: determine that he's made of.

1158
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: Like I can see why you shoot me, he don't die.

1159
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: I can see why you stab me, don't die.

1160
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,959
Speaker 2: But his healing factor is so quick that he blow

1161
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 2: him the bits and he just comes back together so fast,

1162
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 2: like I didn't.

1163
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 4: And that was the thing that was confusing to me

1164
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 4: because the first time I watched it, I don't know,

1165
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 4: I didn't see fully what happened here. But this time

1166
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 4: I was like, oh shit, he's gonna blow apart and

1167
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 4: come back together.

1168
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: Right, he was still together, right, I'm confusing.

1169
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 2: So I was like, ohkay, yeah, it didn't make any

1170
00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 2: sense to me when they were shooting him. If the

1171
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 2: bullets didn't even penetrate his skin, then I would have

1172
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: been fine with this part. But the bullets were penetrating

1173
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 2: and they were hurting him.

1174
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: So him blowing I just didn't get it.

1175
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he was like, yeah, if I blow up

1176
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 4: and I'm dead and cool. If not, then I'm coming

1177
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 4: after you. Right, he didn't die, and now we're back

1178
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 4: to the beginning, So his story is over and we

1179
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 4: get a resolution. Yeah, why did Why was Victor so

1180
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 4: quick to just apologize it and forgive him? I was

1181
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 4: so confused by this because it happened. It seemed like

1182
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 4: it happened sudden, like you were running from him, you

1183
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 4: were trying to kill him, and now you're like, ah,

1184
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 4: you know what, My bad, bro.

1185
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 2: Because he listened to the story because he was still

1186
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 2: alive while the creature was telling the story, So I

1187
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 2: think he right, Yeah, I think he's hearing the story

1188
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 2: from the creature's point of view. So he's realizing how

1189
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 2: much like his father he is, and the only thing

1190
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 2: he ever wanted, I would assume is acceptance or an

1191
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: apology from his father, So he basically gave the creature

1192
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 2: what he wanted, which was acceptance and an apology. So

1193
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: I actually liked this that he apologized to the creature

1194
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 2: before dying, So I was cool with it.

1195
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it was it was. It was.

1196
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 4: It was they both forgave each other and accepted each other.

1197
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: Right right, Yeah, which is not what happens in the book.

1198
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: So I found I found this to be really interesting,

1199
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: like this change. I do remember this that in the book,

1200
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 2: the creature doesn't get to Victory before Victor dies.

1201
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: So the creature is so distraught that it just.

1202
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 2: Is like, I'm just gonna go die out in the

1203
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 2: cold wilderness because I can't believe that I did this.

1204
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 2: The creature was going there to apologize but didn't get

1205
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 2: a chance to. So I like how in this version

1206
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 2: the creature and Victor apologized to each other, they come

1207
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 2: to terms, he like kissed him on the forehead, and

1208
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 2: then he just walks out into the Yeah.

1209
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: I like the way this ended.

1210
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Victor dies from the wounds and everything.

1211
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: And I didn't Yeah, that was crazy.

1212
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 3: Benefit would die.

1213
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: Because they were they were changing things so much.

1214
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 2: I thought they were going to do something else with this,

1215
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, I wasn't expecting Victor to die in this

1216
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 2: moment anymore.

1217
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, the creature pushes the ship out using his strength. Yeah,

1218
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 4: and then he steps into the sunlight, which goes back

1219
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 4: to the first time he stepped into the sunlight. And

1220
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 4: that was pretty much it outside of the captain, though.

1221
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 4: I thought the captain's choice to go home was interesting too.

1222
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: You know what, you bring up the captain?

1223
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 2: Sorry, are you about to Yeah? No, no, no, sorry real quick.

1224
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 2: I forgot to mention earlier. This was one part that

1225
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 2: I did not understand one fucking bit. Why did the

1226
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 2: captain keep Victor on the ship when Frankenstein Frankenstein's Monster

1227
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 2: showed up and started killing people on his crew, he

1228
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 2: was still just like, no, I'm gonna protect him.

1229
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: Why you don't even know this motherfucker. Y'all found him.

1230
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 2: Fucked up with one leg, give him to the fucking

1231
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 2: creature and.

1232
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: Call it the day.

1233
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 2: But especially when y'all started shooting the creature and he's

1234
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 2: not dying. They didn't give me enough to accept why

1235
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 2: the captain was like, oh, yeah, this guy's on our ship.

1236
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 2: Were protecting him even if it cost the lives of

1237
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 2: like six or seven of my crew members.

1238
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: It didn't make any sense to me.

1239
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 3: Didn't some of them say to give him.

1240
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 2: Yes, they were at the door, like, bro, hand him over,

1241
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 2: because that motherfucker looks crazy.

1242
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: Hand him over. So yeah, I didn't.

1243
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 2: I'm assuming again, I only watched it once, so I'm

1244
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 2: assuming I missed something.

1245
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 4: Nonah, he just decided to protect him.

1246
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:05,919
Speaker 3: I can only assume that. I guess.

1247
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 4: Once he took out the three barrel gun and shot

1248
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 4: him and suck him in the ocean, he thought that

1249
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 4: they were saved.

1250
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, you're right.

1251
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 4: When he came back and he heard him coming back,

1252
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 4: and when he opened the door, it was it was

1253
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 4: him because he remember he thought that the crew was

1254
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 4: getting rowdy again.

1255
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 3: He was like, I'll go take it this and it

1256
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 3: was this bit motherfuck And the crew.

1257
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: Was like, yeah, we let him.

1258
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 5: You see this motherfucker right, You the dumbass that kept

1259
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 5: this whole partner over here on the fucking ship.

1260
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: We could have been into this.

1261
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, but but yeah, I thought I thought the captain saying, nah,

1262
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 4: we're going home, which I don't blame him. It was like, Bro,

1263
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 4: this big ass motherfucker out here. I don't know what

1264
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 4: else is out here. We turning around and were going home.

1265
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 2: See, I took it as he didn't want to risk

1266
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 2: the lives of any more of his crew, so he

1267
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,919
Speaker 2: realized it's just not worth it. Let's just go home

1268
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 2: so everybody could be safe and done.

1269
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1270
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, the captain was showing the same sort of arrogance

1271
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 4: and stuff that Victor was doing as well, so him

1272
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 4: changing his mind. Listening to their stories, he realized it

1273
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,919
Speaker 4: was like, there's because think about it, like just even

1274
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 4: when I think it opened, like he ran up on ice,

1275
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 4: So right now, you're a mission is a failure, and

1276
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 4: you're right like if you keep going, you're going to

1277
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 4: basically follow the same path and lead into like inevitable

1278
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 4: possible death.

1279
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 3: So I think you listening to the story, he realized

1280
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 3: it was like, Nah, we're gonna get up out of here.

1281
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 4: Plus, you know they making motherfuckers up and ship, so

1282
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 4: the motherfuckers out of nothing.

1283
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 2: Nobody told me nothing like that, making motherfuckers out here

1284
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 2: and they're.

1285
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 3: Strong as fun. Yeah, we're out of here.

1286
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 1: I'm going on a blunderbuss. Shouldn't ship. Oh we drowned him.

1287
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 4: And Victor told him was like, Nah, he coming back

1288
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 4: at you think he's bad?

1289
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the way you got I.

1290
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: Was telling him, like I was telling him that.

1291
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 2: That was one part I meant to mention earlier that

1292
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 2: I was very confused about, is why they even kept

1293
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 2: Victor on the ship.

1294
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: They had no they owed Victor nothing. They just found

1295
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: him out in the snow.

1296
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 2: And this captain was willing to risk the lives of

1297
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 2: multiple crew members to keep him on this ship protected that.

1298
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 2: That's not like a captain to do that. No, a

1299
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 2: captain is like, this is my crew. I care about

1300
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 2: my crew. You're a random ass person. You can go.

1301
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: Was he royals heal or something like that?

1302
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 3: He was just a random person in the tent that

1303
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 3: blew up.

1304
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 5: Are y'all sure he wasn't They weren't going to get

1305
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 5: him or something like I was.

1306
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 6: Like I said, I was saying, I missed something.

1307
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 4: No, I think I know there was a Danis ship.

1308
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 4: They weren't going to wait going to get who Victor? Nah, No,

1309
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 4: they definitely weren't on the way to get Victor.

1310
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 3: No, they were going somewhere else. They had just ran up.

1311
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: They got ice and then they found Victor out there

1312
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: with those dogs.

1313
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 4: Because remember they were hammergray with the pips and stuff

1314
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 4: trying to get free, and one of the crew members asked,

1315
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 4: if they get free when they go home. He was like,

1316
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 4: we're gonna keep going.

1317
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1318
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 2: But they were on a mission. I don't know what

1319
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 2: the mission was, but it wasn't to find Victor, which kind.

1320
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 4: Of set up the whole movie, a relentless pursuit of

1321
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 4: this thing, right this.

1322
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, now it would make sense if we did

1323
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Speaker 2: miss that.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think this guy knew who he was

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01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: and they were trying to protect him. I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: I think that that they found out who he was

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01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 2: once Victor started telling them about the story, because.

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01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 1: If they knew he was there, there wouldn't really there

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01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 1: really wouldn't be a reason for him to tell that

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Speaker 1: whole story.

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01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,919
Speaker 2: But I am open to being wrong, and I'm open

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01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 2: to saying that I missed something because that part didn't make.

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01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: Sense to me.

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01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, could were going to the North Pole, right, that's it,

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01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 5: and you know trapped in they discovered him.

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01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so yeah, they didn't know who he was.

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01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 2: And after after six of your dudes, seven of your

1338
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 2: dudes got fucking killed by this big ass creature. And

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01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 2: the creature says, look, all I want is him, and

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01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 2: you're talking about no, why why dude, let this motherfucker go?

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01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that is confusing because I was thinking they

1342
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 5: must notice, motherfucker right, Why why are they not releasing him?

1343
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 1: Didn't make sense.

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01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:10,919
Speaker 3: I thought this line was good.

1345
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 4: He said, while you were alive, while you were all alive,

1346
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,479
Speaker 4: what recourse do you have but to live?

1347
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 2: The monster said, yeah that she was dope. Yeah, this

1349
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 2: was a this was a good This was a good ending. Man,

1350
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 2: it was a really good ending, him just walking out

1351
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 2: and just looking out into the sun and then crying.

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01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 1: At the end.

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01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just sad that he still doesn't have a companion.

1354
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 2: He's gonna have to live by himself. Yeah, you ain't

1355
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 2: getting a holes looking like that.

1356
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 3: I thought this was interests.

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01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 1: We wrapped up well the one hole he got.

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01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:55,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, that ultimately human and men or like monsters, and

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01:06:56,120 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 4: you know, here's a creature that was born, uh you

1360
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 4: know without violence, you know, a love and innocence to him.

1361
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 4: But the cruelty of other men, of other people triggered

1362
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 4: the violent nature in him.

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01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 3: And that was when it was in I was like

1364
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 3: man like, you know, it's all I think. It's a

1365
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 3: philosophical question. Are humans like born evil or are they

1366
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 3: made evil? Yeah? Yeah, so is it like.

1367
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 4: He didn't want to get whipped and chained up and

1368
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 4: stuff like that. Yeah, they shot at him first with

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01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 4: the gun. You know, he retaliated Victor wouldn't give him

1370
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 4: the one thing he wanted, which was a companion to

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01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 4: just love somebody and been off his own.

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01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 2: But Victor might have also been like, I don't have one,

1373
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 2: so why the fuck should I make you?

1374
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 4: And what did he say? He said, you would indulge

1375
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 4: me in love, I will indulge in rage. So it

1376
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 4: was like, you wouldn't give me love, so I have

1377
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 4: no choice but to go the opposite way. So yeah,

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01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 4: I mean it was it's you know, it's a it's

1379
01:07:57,960 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 4: a good aspiration into that.

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Speaker 6: So I'm definitely looking forward to watching this again.

1381
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1382
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 2: So, and I'm gonna go watch Pinocchio because I have

1383
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 2: a feeling that that's really good too. But Guermo del

1384
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 2: Toro was fucking he's really good.

1385
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 4: I heard it was. I'm pretty sure I heard it

1386
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 4: was good. It's in my Netflix. Q.

1387
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 1: Oh, it's on Netflix.

1388
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I checked it's still on Netflix.

1389
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:25,640
Speaker 2: I don't have to watch fucking Oppenheimer's next week though,

1390
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 2: open Oh yeah, that's my solo I forgot.

1391
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,679
Speaker 1: I really don't do not want to watch that all.

1392
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:34,719
Speaker 2: But anyway, Yeah, this was good, man, this was really

1393
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 2: fucking good. I would have I would have been happy

1394
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 2: if I saw this in the theater. Excellent acting, a

1395
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 2: really good story. Yeah it was good.

1396
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 4: I didn't expect this sort of story because you know,

1398
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 4: most Hollywood always make Frankenstein this violent monster, so expect

1399
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 4: to get this at all.

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01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 6: Well, actually they make Frankenstein's monster.

1401
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree.

1402
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,600
Speaker 2: But when I when I saw the original poster, I

1403
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 2: didn't know it was Germo del Toro.

1404
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 1: So when this was first being huh, I didn't either.

1405
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1406
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 2: Yes, when it was first advertised, I was like, I

1407
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 2: don't care. It's gonna be another story of the Franksi's

1408
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 2: monster going around.

1409
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 1: I don't care. But when I saw his name, I

1410
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 1: was like, oh, no, this is gonna be good. So yeah,

1411
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: he killed it.

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01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, well he did a good job. He did a

1413
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 3: good job here.

1414
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 4: All right, Well we'll leave it there, man, let us

1415
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:34,759
Speaker 4: know what you you gotta start about this movie. Definitely

1416
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 4: feel like I don't know if it was discussed a

1417
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 4: lot at the beginning of the year, I don't even know,

1418
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 4: but it's it's it's it's a hit so far, a

1419
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 4: lot of people are loving it.

1420
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 2: I knew it was coming, but I kept getting it

1421
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 2: confused with The Bride, And when I saw the trailer

1422
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 2: for The Bride, I was like, Oh, I don't give

1423
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 2: a fuck about none of this.

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01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 3: So but what got you guys? Next time we out Peace,