1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't going to start the show taking 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: a colossal dump on the Secretary of State. I was 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: gonna hold it off for a few segments. But this 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 1: morning has pissed me off to the point or the 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: only thing that's going to make me feel better is 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: to do our old time favorite here on the program, 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: and is to point out what a colossal grifter scumbag 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: Diego Morales is. 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: So, Jerry, is it all right if we start with that? Hey, listen, 10 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: the listeners don't know. 11 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 3: The best thing that happened to Indianapolis today was you 12 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 3: being locked out of the studio. 13 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 2: Because now you are so. 14 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 3: Fired up, all curve balls were coming out fire in 15 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 3: this morning. 16 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 2: So it is the Kenneling Casey Show. I'm robbed. Casey's 17 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: out today. 18 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: Jerry Lopez at Indy Spanglish on Twitter in for Casey, 19 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: keV is here. Let me tell you about my little 20 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: drive in shall wait, let's do it? 21 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: Okay? 22 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: So for years I have made the same track to 23 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: the greater Downtown area and for numerous years, and the 24 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: nine years I've worked here, the first seven getting out 25 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: of my house was of relative ease. It was a 26 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: fairly simple thing. I live in proximity to the Brownsburg 27 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: High School, and a couple of years ago they decided, well, 28 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: we've got some issues with parking, and we've got some 29 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: issues with people getting in and traffic getting into the 30 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: high school. Said, see it every day, doesn't seem like 31 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: that big of a deal. No, no, there's major issues. 32 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: And now they've created this second road to get into 33 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: the high school. Where before there was no traffic moved 34 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: in a relatively there was some minor delays, right, you 35 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: got hundreds of people expected driving, and yes, that's great, 36 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: but there was no It was not like the Dan 37 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: Ryan Expressway at rush hour in the city of Chicago. 38 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: And now since government intervened itself and created this second road, which, 39 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: by the way, not mine but people around me. Back's 40 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: right up into these people's backyards. Basically, wow, it is 41 00:01:54,520 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: like a mile long stretch of traffic every single day 42 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: to get into this high school. And now it's affecting 43 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: everybody in the area. No problem. Before, everything moving relatively smooth. 44 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: Now it's just just a line of people and heaven forbid, 45 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: you get at one of these four way stops where 46 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: you just sit. So I had that experience this morning. 47 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: Then about a half mile down the road, the train 48 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: decided to come. And so there I sat with the train, 49 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: which I didn't even know we still had trains in 50 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: America anymore. I didn't even know that was still a thing. 51 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: But this was the Casey Jones Express. And I sat 52 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: there for another five to ten minutes. So now I'm 53 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes in and I'm less than a mile 54 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm less than one mile from my house, and I'm 55 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes in. 56 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: It's not DC's, this is Browns Browns. 57 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: Oh yes, oh absolutely. 58 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: And so then on top of that, of course you 59 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: get your normal joy of every road being closed in 60 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: the greater downtown area. 61 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: You use your experience. 62 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, you can't go anywhere without some road being 63 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: under construction and taking you, you know, a good ten 64 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: to fifteen minutes once you get off the Interstate seventy 65 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: exit of your choosing to get to your desired location. 66 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: So what what is normally or used to be a 67 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: thirty minute trip, Now, thanks to Joe Hawks, that is 68 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: a forty minute trip. And now thanks to the men's 69 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: of members that run the Brownsburg School Corporation and the 70 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: Town of Brownsburg, it was now a fifty minute plus 71 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: trip to get to work today. 72 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: How about you, Jerry, It was not that bad at all. 73 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're coming from Noblesville, coming from Noblesville now 74 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: on Earth. 75 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, was not that bad. It was not that bad. Okay. 76 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: So then I get to work and for some reason, 77 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: and it's always the weekend people. It's always the weekend people. 78 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: I use the same studio every morning, every single morning. 79 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: It's booked in the computer in our little register a studio. 80 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: Oh blah blah blah. My name is in there, the 81 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: Kendall and Casey show every day eight to nine. 82 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: It's us. I go to open the door. It's locked. 83 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: This is after waiting in traffic for the door's locked. 84 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: Little morning, Little morning, And. 85 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: I said to somebody in there, i'mp peering, appearing no nobody. 86 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: So that means, first of all, why you would shut 87 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: the door on your way out when the door is 88 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: supposed to be open so that somebody can walk in. 89 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, but somebody had to on their way 90 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: out the door decide, you know what I'm gonna do. 91 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 2: I'm gonna lock this thing from the inside. 92 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: A deliberate act of malice and or stupidity either either one. 93 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: It once again, Jerry, it ruined my morning, but. 94 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 3: It made everybody else's better because I cannot wait to 95 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 3: get into this Diego stuff. 96 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: So so so two things with our old our old 97 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: pal grifters rs over at Morales Industries. So I saw 98 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: this post and it was from Diego. 99 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: That are our comptroller. Her name is Elisena Shalla. Every 100 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 2: year I think she has some big shindigs. 101 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: She has a very palatial farming estate out in Boone 102 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: County and they have some big Republican hey Rube, get 103 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: together whatever lawn party. 104 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: We're all that. Yes, thank you, I think that's what 105 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: it's called. And this is. 106 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: The connected, yeah, the wealthy, the everything we aren't right. 107 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: I was invited, Oh you were invited? Yeah, well shoot 108 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 3: hot Dagg didn't go. They would have loved to have 109 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 3: seen me. There was I was during the Colts game. 110 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 3: Went to the Colts game. Starredy was right around the 111 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 3: same time. One two, three, four five is Stadium was closed. 112 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 3: So I thought about you and I walked. I walked in. 113 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 2: I went, oh, it's closed. Rob could have called this. 114 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: So a beautiful August, beautiful day afternoon. Yeah, no no 115 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: rain in the whether or not rained on or not 116 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: doused in water. 117 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: First game, preseason home game. You know, it's estimated we. 118 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: Spent on additional one hundred million dollars plus for that 119 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: retractable roof. And so it's I think what they've counted 120 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: less than forty times in the history of the stadium 121 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: the roof has been open. And then on a you're 122 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: talking about a beautiful. 123 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 2: Clothes Yeah, mid to one o'clock Saturday, Yeah, roof is closed. 124 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 3: Okay, very good, but that's what a lawn party was Saturday, 125 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 3: early after very good. But my point on this is 126 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 3: it is the people who know what's going on that's 127 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 3: at this thing, correct, right, if you're invited to that thing, 128 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 3: you are paying attention, which means you would know, you 129 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 3: would be aware of the repetitive bull crap that this guy, 130 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 3: Diego Morales proves provides on a regular basis, whether it 131 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 3: is the hiring of family members, whether it is the 132 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: no bid contracts, whether it is disappearing to a foreign 133 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 3: country for ten days, whether it is refusal to say 134 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: who paid for the trip to the foreign country for 135 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 3: ten days, whether it is then making a ridiculous claim 136 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: like I paid the money back then refusing to provide 137 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 3: any proof whatsoever you paid them. But all of the 138 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 3: things associated Diego Morales, everybody there would have known what 139 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,559 Speaker 3: he is and what he's doing. Yeah, at this point, 140 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 3: there's no way to act like you don't know if 141 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: you're especially in that kind of circle. 142 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: And yet, because he posted about this, what a great opportunity, 143 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: What a great time Diego had, Because so Diego one 144 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: got invited by this woman right who if anybody would 145 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: know the bull crap he's pulling, she has an office 146 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: very near his, she's in the state House. 147 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: She would know. 148 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: So one, they invited him to the thing. And two, 149 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: it's just one picture after another of him with connected 150 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: Republican people, which means not one damn person stopped and said, hey, 151 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: can you just cut the bs and tell us who 152 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: paid for your trip to India? Not one person there 153 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: did what I did, which is and they don't even 154 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: have to take an entire day to do it. They're 155 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: at the thing anyway, Not one person said, hey, we 156 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: all know you're totally full of it and that you 157 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: didn't pay that money back. Why don't you cut the 158 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: crap and tell us exactly what went on in India? 159 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: And who paid for it, and Buddy Raju's mysterious eighty 160 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: thousand dollars contract and what he was doing there. Why 161 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: a venture capitalist went with you to India? Not one 162 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: person did that, And so you know, I was thinking 163 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: about this. 164 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 4: I thought, as easy as Diego is to loathe, as 165 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 4: easy as Diego is to despise, because he is a grifter, 166 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 4: he is a scumbag, he is a dirt ball, he 167 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 4: is he is corrupt, he is unethical. 168 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: All of those things are true. But Jerry, you know 169 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: where the blame really rests in the Republican Party, because 170 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: time after time after time, whether it's Brawn, whether it's Rokeda, 171 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: whether it's Micah, whether it's at least Noshella, whether it's 172 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: these activist people, they all know what he is. Every 173 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: single person there knows who that guy is. And the 174 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: fact that not one of these people, nobody not named 175 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: Rob Kendall, will hold this guy accountable, means they're. 176 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: Fine with it. 177 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: It's a much bigger problem than the Republican Party, Diego 178 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: Morales or the Diego Morales. It is a Republican Party problem. 179 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: At this point, Diego Morales is the Republican Party. You 180 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:17,119 Speaker 1: can't separate them because they keep condoning, they keep approving, 181 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 1: they keep saying this behavior is okay by not holding 182 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:21,599 Speaker 1: him accountable. 183 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 3: Well, and the other part of that is when when 184 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 3: for people who don't necessarily tune in every single day 185 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 3: and they see these pictures on social media and they 186 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: see all these pictures, you're basically condoning all of this 187 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 3: behavior one hundred percent. If we're not holding people accountable, 188 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 3: then you're condoning it. Those are the options, right at 189 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: this point. You can't pretend to not see, not hear, 190 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 3: not know what's going on. So if things if the 191 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: wheels fall off the wagon, well aren't you responsible. 192 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 193 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 3: If you see the wheels wobbling and you don't say anything, 194 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 3: then that's on you too. 195 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, at least a shallow of the state controller. You're 196 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: a joke. You're a disgrace. That's ridiculous because she certainly 197 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: knows what he is. Aaron Houchin, who I see in 198 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: this photo? Professional office hop for Aaron Houchin. You're a joke, 199 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: You're a disgrace. This is ridiculous that everybody knows what's 200 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: going on with this guy. Everybody knows what's going on 201 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: with this guy, and no one in the Republican. 202 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 3: Even ask questions. We'll even ask. No, we're not asking 203 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: you if you do full blown investment. We just ask 204 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 3: in public. Yeah, how hard would it have been? 205 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: Elis Na Shala, who, by the way, was given her position. 206 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: She didn't earn it when the current or the former 207 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: auditor quit. She was because she was a holcome person. 208 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: She was in the Hulcomb Ads party insider given this position, 209 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: by the way, lost at the convention for state treasurer. 210 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: And then what was her response on why did I lose? 211 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: Give me a position? Gimme, gimme, gimme. That's who the 212 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: Republican Party is. If they won't hold the worst of 213 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: them accountable, if nobody will stand up and hold the 214 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: worst of them, which we all know, that's what diego 215 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: Morales is. If no one will hold the worst among 216 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: us accountable, then you are the worst among us. 217 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 2: All right, I feel so much better. All Right, we're 218 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: off and running, babe. We didn't even get to a 219 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: segment one. 220 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: Well, I didn't even get to the other thing that 221 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to scream up, but we'll do that later 222 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: on the show. You don't want to use all your 223 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: all your ammo in one segment. Right, all right, we'll 224 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: take a break. We'll get to all the Trump putin 225 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: Russia whatever. It's Kettle Case Show ninety three. WWC. 226 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: Well you had a bad morning too. I feel bad 227 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: that you just let me rant. 228 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: On about that for all that time when you've had 229 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: a dramatic event yourself. 230 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 2: You know, it's uh, I've been deployed twice. It feels 231 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 2: like I'm back in the sandbox. Right now. It's Kendal 232 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: and Casey. So I'm Rob. Jerry'son for Casey today. What 233 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: happened to you? So I've been on this thing. 234 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 3: Now, I drink a lot of Red Bulls and things 235 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 3: like that, and now I'm just like you know, I'm 236 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: gonna go to stop and grab me a fountain soda. 237 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: I'll get the big when it'll last me the whole show. 238 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: Are you still done with the smoking? Yeah? You steve 239 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: kept going. We're talking about a month, maybe in a. 240 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: Couple of weeks, so people don't know, Jerry, start around 241 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: like July eleventh, right before I went to Tampa. Yeah, 242 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: the cigarette tax increase reached a point where you said, 243 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: this is my price point. 244 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 2: I'm not doing this anymore. 245 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then and you're saving all this money and 246 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: are you feeling better? 247 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 5: Ah? 248 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, eat a lot. Now I feel like a little 249 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: fat guy. 250 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: Yeah that's I think you just go Most people go 251 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: from one vice to the next, right. But anyway, so 252 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: you have now one of the things you do is 253 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: you get a soda on the regular. 254 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, just grab a soda, grab the big one to 255 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 3: sip on throughout the day or whatever. But I pull 256 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 3: up to the gas station, big sign on the thing 257 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 3: that says no straws. 258 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: Any wait, wait, the gas station didn't have any strawstraw 259 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: Now I'm looking at this cup. Yeah, and based on 260 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: the cup, this is a fairly major Yeah, it's an 261 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: extra large. Well I'm saying, but like the retailer, this 262 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: is a big box store. Yeah, yeah, you have one 263 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: in your neighborhood, right, So I find it fascinating that 264 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: they there's not some sort of Amazon type instant feature 265 00:12:54,320 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: where they can get straws given the relative proximity, alatively 266 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: close proximity that another store of the same name would be. 267 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: Even if that were, you know, like when I worked 268 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: at Arby's in high school, Like if you ran out 269 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: of something there were so many Arby's that you could 270 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: go like just get you know, there's got to be 271 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: another one of those within one mile of where this 272 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: one was exactly. But no, you're you're forced to So 273 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 1: how are you're drinking this? What from like a you're 274 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: sipping out of the app. 275 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta take the top off of it. And 276 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: this thing is huge. 277 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 3: So there is a chance at some point, like I 278 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 3: will be running to the bath and wipe my shirt 279 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 3: off during this show. 280 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's brutal because part of now do you just 281 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: do this? Well, let me ask you. Do you do 282 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: the same like you get like you just get mountain 283 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: dew or whatever. 284 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 5: Time. 285 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: Okay, so what I do Now this probably is a 286 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: character flaw, But whenever I go to a restaurant and 287 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: they have the fountain, I mix things together that way. 288 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm getting three or four sodas in 289 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: the same like an eight like an eight year old. Yeah, 290 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: they called it the suicide. They retreat when you would 291 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: do that. But like in my house, I have pepsi, 292 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: but I don't have all of these other drinks. But 293 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: I don't want all the calories that are associated with 294 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: all these other drinks. So I'll like put diet coke 295 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: or diet pepsi as the base, and then you can 296 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: mix all these other things and you get like the 297 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: super cool Willy Wonka drink that you wouldn't be able 298 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: to get anywhere else. 299 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: That is a character flaw. Does that say something horrible 300 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: about me? I mean you're living dangerously. Remember you're like 301 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 2: eight or nine. 302 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 3: It's like, are you're gonna do the suicide and get 303 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 3: all of them and all of a sudden you're. 304 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: The coolest guy on the baseball team. 305 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 6: Yeah. 306 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:22,119 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 307 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: Okay, So coming up next hour, we have a big 308 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: update on a story that we broke on this program, 309 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: and that is involving the Sheriff du Bois County, Tom Kleinhelter. So, 310 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: if you remember, former state Police Superintendent Doug Carter came 311 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: on this program, was with us for an hour and 312 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: was talking about this investigation into the sheriff of Dubois County, 313 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: who is a close political ally of Governor Braun, who 314 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: was accused in an eighty page probable cause affidavit while 315 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: Carter was state superintendent by a decorated state police officer 316 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: of missu using commissary money and basically he was paying. 317 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: For his wife to go on trips with him. 318 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: Some other things related to the allegations were made that 319 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: he was misusing the commissary money and State police felt 320 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: like they had a strong case. Carter felt like they 321 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: had a strong case. Jeff Heron, the officer who was 322 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: putting the problem Cause Affidavid to get I mean, eighty 323 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: pages is a lot, right, And then suddenly Braun becomes 324 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: the governor, a new State Police superintendent comes in, and 325 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: the special prosecutor decides not to. 326 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: Press charges. Yep, these are not the drones you're looking for. 327 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: Some people were like, whoo, that seems like a lot 328 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: of red flags going on there. With an eighty page 329 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: problem cause affidavit, which was triggered, by the way, by 330 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: the State Board of Accounts. This emanated out of another 331 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: government entity going to State police. 332 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: Carter came in said, look. 333 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of shenanigans potentially going on here, 334 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: and then he was most upset. This decorated officer was 335 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: punished by state police in regards to this investigation Casey 336 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: Smith from the India of Capitol Chronicle has has done 337 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: a fabulous deep dive on this. 338 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: She has reached out to bronze people. 339 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: She talked to klein Helter, she talked to this special prosecutor, 340 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: Casey Smith is going to be with us at ten 341 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: thirty talking about what she found. So in the meantime 342 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. When we come back, Josh 343 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: Bain of the Indianapoli City County Council will be with us. 344 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: He had a fascinating back and forth with a Marion 345 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: County Superior Court judge about crime, about how the judges 346 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: are handling dangerous, violent criminals, about letting them out back 347 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: out on the street. And we will talk with Josh 348 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: about that back and forth that he had with a 349 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: Marion County Superior Court judge. Jerry's in for casey ninety three, WIBC. 350 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 7: Who have somebody's fighting for a place to stand, what 351 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 7: decent chab or a help in hand? Whoever, somebody's struggling 352 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 7: to be free looking there, Aysma, you'll see me. 353 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 1: So they had all the green violence and still out 354 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: of control of the sea of Indianapolis. 355 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: The question needs, with all the focus on. 356 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: The mayor and the prosecutor, what role did the judges 357 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: play in it? Our next guest, he's trying to get 358 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: to the bottom of that ninety three WIBC. 359 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: It's Kennelly Casey Show. I'm Rob Casey's out today. 360 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: Jerry Lopez at Eddie Spanglish on Twitter in for Casey. 361 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: Josh Bain. 362 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: He is a Republican member of the Indianapolis City County 363 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: Council and he had a fascinating back and forth with 364 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: a member of the Marion County Superior Court. And he 365 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: joins us now, and I think he's trying to get 366 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: into something interesting, which is with all the focus on 367 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: the mayor of the prosecutor, how much of the blame 368 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: rests with the judges. Josh Bain joins us now. Josh Bain, Hello, Hey, 369 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: good to be with you. So I'm want to play 370 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: you a little bit of this. Our old pal Stephen 371 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: Whitmer and the fine folks over at Indie Reporter posted 372 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: this at Indye Underscore Reporter Underscore, and this was a 373 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: back and forth that you had with this Marion County 374 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: Superior Court judge Mark Rothenbergen. And before we play this audio, 375 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: I want it for you to kind of set this 376 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: up for us. Is that what you were trying to 377 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: do here, because you guys at the city County Council, 378 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: you fund the public courts. Were you trying to get 379 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: into what role the judges play and letting these violent 380 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: offenders back out on streets? 381 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, because at the end of the day, 382 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 5: it's judges that are accepting plea deals, accepting plea bargains, 383 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 5: setting bail, you know, sitting thing people. So this is 384 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 5: this is really the crux of the argument. I've been 385 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 5: saying this for years that you know, even if we 386 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 5: ever win the prosecutors race here in Marianne County, it's 387 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 5: still a major uphill battle. 388 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. 389 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: So Rothenberg has been a spirit court judge for a 390 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: long time, I think, you know, fifteen sixteen years now, 391 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: and you were grilling him on these things. And I'm 392 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: just going to play a little bit of this audio 393 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: and then we'll sort of do a deep dive because 394 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: I thought he said something interesting and I want to 395 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: give you a chance to respond to that. 396 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 6: Humanity is difficult to deal with, but you have to 397 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 6: look at the empirical evidence that's in front of you. 398 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 6: When you deal with this. Sometimes you have to make 399 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 6: tough choices, and you have to make those tough choices 400 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 6: as a judge, Remember, as I said, redemption rehabilitation is 401 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 6: the primary goal as set out by the Indiana Constitution, 402 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 6: and we have to keep that in mind in every 403 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 6: sentence we make. Right. It's easy to say, hey, we 404 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 6: should lock up as many people as possible because our 405 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 6: city is dangerous and dangerous people should be in jail. 406 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 6: I don't disagree with that. I've lived here all my life. 407 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 6: But there's also the presumption of innocence. Everyone is entitled 408 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 6: to a bond by the Indiana Constitution, a reasonable bond. 409 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 6: I would say that our bonds and Marion County are 410 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 6: similar because we've looked at them off many, many times, 411 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 6: similar to the other counties in the state of Indiana 412 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 6: and the donut counties in the state of Indiana. 413 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: Does he have a case, Josh Bain, remember the Indianapolis 414 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: City Ketty Council. Does this judge say, look, I'm just 415 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: following the law on the constitutions as it set or 416 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: their problems in his theory there. 417 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 5: Well, I think he's following his judicial philosophy. I mean, 418 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 5: you know, when it comes to sentencing people, I'm like, well, 419 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 5: sometimes people just need to be put away because they're ainous, 420 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 5: violent people. And you know the problems with our superior court, 421 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 5: it's with our circuit court as well. I mean, for example, 422 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 5: the next judge that got up and spoke was the 423 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 5: judge that presided over the death of the five year 424 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 5: old girl, Zara, and she literally sat in a courtroom 425 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 5: and told this mom to quit making complaints to dcs 426 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 5: about the dad. And then the dad tortured the five 427 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 5: year old girl shortly after that and killed her. So 428 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 5: and there's no accountability like these judges. You know, no 429 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 5: one can hold them accountable. We can't hold them accountable 430 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 5: on the City County Council to a large extent. You know, 431 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 5: I've been doing a deep dive because you know, the 432 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 5: only time these judges even come before us is during 433 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 5: the budget season. And even Judge Rothenberg, you know, was 434 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 5: getting sassy with me at the beginning of my questioning 435 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 5: because he's like, you know, your questions don't have anything 436 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 5: to do with the budget, even though all the Democrat 437 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 5: councilors before me were asking about things that didn't have 438 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 5: to do with the budget. He knew where this was going. 439 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 5: And that's why from the very beginning, you know, he was, 440 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 5: you know, trying to be you know, Coffee was trying 441 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 5: to be you know, contentful and everything, and you know, 442 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 5: we're just not going to put up with it anymore. 443 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 5: At least the Republicans aren't, I mean, and at least 444 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 5: I'm not. We're done saying that these judges have all 445 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 5: these independence and everything that they're going to have to 446 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 5: start being held accountable. 447 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: Josh Bain is our guest. He's a Republican member of 448 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis City County Council. We're talking about the court 449 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: system and the role they may be playing and out 450 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: of control violence in the city of Indianapolis. So these 451 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: judges are explained to our audience because many people this, 452 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: you know, this is their first introduction to these sort 453 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: of things, which is why it's great that we're able 454 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: to do it. 455 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 2: These judges are elected, so they are appointed, they are 456 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: were appointed. 457 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 5: We have a different system here in Marion County. You know, 458 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 5: the state has stepped in a few different times when 459 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 5: it comes to Marion County judicial selection. And then there's 460 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 5: a presiding judge and you know, they have terms in office. 461 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 5: So Judge Rothenberg is currently the presiding judge. 462 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: Appointed by Okay, so you've gone where I wanted you 463 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: to go. They are appointed by who. 464 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 5: So there's this committee of people made up of like 465 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 5: appointments from the state legislature and such, and then there 466 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 5: has to be a political partisan balance to it as well. 467 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 5: And that's why you know here in Marion County we 468 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 5: don't really do direct elections for all of these judges. 469 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: So I think that's where some people's frustration is. And you, 470 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: if you have I don't know if you intended to 471 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: do it or not, but you are doing great for 472 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: the radio segment. You're going exactly where I want you 473 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 1: to go, Josh Bain, which is if outside influences have 474 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,719 Speaker 1: control over who is appointed, we can't even really blame 475 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: the voters for this, as you're saying, people at two 476 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,719 Speaker 1: hundred US Washington, our state capital, have a role in this. 477 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: Why aren't we getting better people in this position? What 478 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: do we have to do to get people who will 479 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: take this, I guess more seriously for lack of a 480 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: better term, when it comes to keeping violent offenders behind bars? 481 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 2: What do we have to do? 482 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'll say this, I'm someone that's pretty much 483 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 5: done a complete one eighty on this. When I was 484 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 5: first elected to city County Council, like six this years ago. 485 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 5: I would always tell my state representatives and state senators that, 486 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 5: you know, people in Indianapolis, they need to live with 487 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,479 Speaker 5: the consequences of their actions. You know, there are retention 488 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 5: votes for judges, but I mean, you know, we can 489 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 5: all laugh at that. There's no such thing as a 490 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 5: retention vote. But you know, I always told them. You know, 491 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 5: there was one time there was a bill for the 492 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 5: governor to appoint the chief of IMPD, you know, and 493 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 5: I was like, hey, that's too far. People need to 494 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 5: live with the consequences of their actions. They vote for this, 495 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 5: they vote to retain these judges, let them live with it. 496 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 5: And then over the past year, I've done a one 497 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 5: eighty where it's like people are not living with it, 498 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 5: people are dying with it. We have kids dying, kids 499 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 5: being tortured in their homes because of this nonsense that 500 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 5: you know, there's just no accountability. So that's why I've 501 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 5: been doing a deep dive this year. We have still 502 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 5: about a month or so before the budget will come back, 503 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 5: and we're going to have time to offer amendments and 504 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 5: when it comes to their like pay their staffing, pay, 505 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 5: all that set by state statute. But they receive a 506 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 5: lot of money in grants, rob and I mean a 507 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 5: lot of money, and it does look like we have 508 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 5: some discretion over those grants. So it's one of those 509 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 5: things where if you want these grant dollars, we're going 510 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 5: to have to start seeing some accountability. And one other 511 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 5: thing I want to touch on too, because it's getting 512 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 5: in the news so much, is the juvenile crime in 513 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 5: our city is obviously out of control, and our chief 514 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 5: has been asking for years for them to share data 515 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 5: for kids. For juveniles. You know, if you pull over 516 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 5: a seventeen year old, they could be on probation, they 517 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 5: could have a terrible criminal history. We don't and an 518 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 5: imp the officer who's making that detention, is not able 519 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 5: to look at that information. They do not receive the information. 520 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 5: The courts do not share any kind of information like that, 521 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 5: even though they're allowed to like they're supposed to, and 522 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 5: they're refusing to do it. 523 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: Josh Bain, member of the Indianapolis City County Council, is 524 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: our guest, just a couple of minutes left here with you. 525 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: So are you coming out and saying that you now 526 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: would support the idea of some sort of state takeover 527 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: at least of certain parts of Indianapolis government. 528 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 5: I think we have to rob I mean, what in 529 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 5: Indianapolis are we doing well? You know, that's a good 530 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 5: question to ask, right And if you look at the 531 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 5: mayor's speech that he gave a couple of weeks ago, 532 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 5: everything that he pointed out, like he would talk about 533 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 5: economic development, everything that he pointed out was either city 534 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 5: funded or backed by city bonds. You know, our roads 535 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 5: are completely collapsing, Kids are in the street shooting and 536 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 5: killing each other over who knows what, and we're just 537 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 5: all sitting here. You know, there's no accountability for these judges. 538 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 5: So that's why, you know, we really need the state 539 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 5: to come in. City council. Again, we have some say 540 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 5: over discretionary budgets like grants and whatnot, but for there 541 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 5: to actually be a true systemic change with our court system, 542 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 5: it's going to have to come from the state level 543 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 5: real quick. 544 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: Before I let you go, do you think based on 545 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people said that we're in that room 546 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: the other night hawks had his running for a fourth term. 547 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 2: You're you're on the city County council. What say you? 548 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 5: I did not think that he gave a speech from 549 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 5: someone in the lane duck of a third term who's 550 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 5: not running again. I think that was a speech from 551 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 5: someone who at least is not planning on going anywhere. 552 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 2: Very good. Well, that'd be very bad for us, but 553 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: very very good from you, Josh Bain. You always do 554 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 2: do a very good job. Josh maayine, thank you appreciate it. 555 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, It's Ketel Casey Show ninety three WIBC Sentive. So 556 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: this woman has come up with a business model that 557 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: fascinates me, and she's making apparently gobs of money doing this. 558 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 1: And I'm Jerry. I gotta get your opinion on this. 559 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: It's Kennel and Casey Show. I'm Rob. Jerry Lopez is 560 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: in for Cacyday. You find him on Twitter at Indi Spanglish. 561 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 2: keV is here. 562 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: So the New York Post had this article on it. 563 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: This would be perfect for our show. I'm going to 564 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: read you the headline. All right, are you ready for this? 565 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 2: Ready? 566 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: Suspicious women hire me as honeytrap to test if their 567 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: boyfriends will cheat. It's shocking how fast men fold. So 568 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: this is a I think what most people would say 569 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: is a very well assembled woman and basically what happens 570 00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: is women who suspect their gentlemen caller might either be 571 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: currently cheating. 572 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 2: Or prone to cheating. 573 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: Hire this woman for as much as five thousand dollars 574 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: and it is her job to try to get those 575 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: men to cheat. And the theory is if they can 576 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: resist her, there's no woman that a man will actually 577 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: cheat with. 578 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: I mean, this is so much to unpack here. 579 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 3: If you have to hire somebody to see if your 580 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 3: partner will cheat, your relationships already over, well, that's. 581 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 1: A good that's a fair point. I mean, that's probably 582 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: very fair that if you've got to if. 583 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 3: You've got if there's at that point where're gonna give 584 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 3: some lady five thousand bucks to see if she can 585 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 3: sleep with your man your relationship is already dead. 586 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: Well, And here's the thing. I don't think she does 587 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: any actual sleeping. I think she just gets them to 588 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: the point, like she gets it all on record, like 589 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: this is a great business I can. 590 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 3: Range a meet up and now you were gonna meet 591 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 3: your relationships already over. 592 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is a great business model for 593 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: this woman because I don't think she does anything other 594 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: than just take photos of herself and. 595 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 2: Take it one step further, say that you passed the test. 596 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you find out later that your wife 597 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 3: hired this lady to try to entice, like, wouldn't. 598 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 2: You be a little upset? 599 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,239 Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm saying. If you if you are 600 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: says lose lose, lose for everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and 601 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: that and that's Yeah, you're right. I mean, if you're 602 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: to that point the relationship either, I mean, even if 603 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: your person isn't cheating, you're already to the point where you. 604 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: Think he's cheating. 605 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,479 Speaker 1: So there's nothing that's gonna convince you otherwise with future people, Right, 606 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna just keep hiring her. 607 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, how does that? How does that? 608 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 5: Right? 609 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 3: Business model by this lady? But anybody that's paying for 610 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 3: these services is already lost. 611 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, So. 612 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: Okay, here's the here's the one thing I would say 613 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: is the flaw. Now, clearly there's not a flaw in 614 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: the business plan because she's apparently making lots of money 615 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: doing this, and as kind of bizarro as this is, 616 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: it's I guess theoretically way better than like only fans. 617 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I was just literally in my 618 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 2: head going, but it's better know. 619 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: Only fans because she doesn't really do anything like I mean, 620 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: she just takes photos ruining relationship. 621 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 2: He that are already ruined. 622 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: Right if you're a dude though, okay, unless your name 623 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: is unless you have a bank account that rivals the 624 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: size of Bezos Musk Gates Zuckerberg, this woman is not 625 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: into you? What man is actually falling for this? Wouldn't 626 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: that be a colossal red flag that this broad is 627 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: pretending to be interested in you? We just talked last 628 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: week about some AI person that'sh with people. People are 629 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: just starving for attention, I think, and they're willing to 630 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: throw away at all for a little bit of attention. Yeah, 631 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: like if this person Jerry, you you've seen the person 632 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: in question? Yeah, if she slid into your DTAs good 633 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: for Kevin? Have you seen this this woman in question? 634 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 5: Here? 635 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: And look, keV is a is a good looking single guy. 636 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: He's in a band, he works at a radio station. 637 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: Kev's got a lot going for him. If this woman, 638 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: even with you Kevin having a lot going for you, 639 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: showed any interest in you whatsoever, or you Jerry whatsoever? 640 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: Your two unmarried guys, wouldn't you say, what does this 641 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: person one with me. Wouldn't that be your first reaction? 642 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 2: I mean, no, I don't know. 643 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 3: I don't know if you've seen me, rob, I mean, 644 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 3: so like pretty as a dime a dozen, she might 645 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 3: be a psychopathanal hoarder, Like there's now I'm forty four 646 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 3: years old, dude, I've never dated a girl who I 647 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: didn't think was pretty, So you got to bring more 648 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 3: than that. Well, but I'm saying, like there's hay, but 649 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 3: those girls don't typically jump into a dude's DMS. 650 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 2: They don't have to, that's right. 651 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: See, that's the point the aggres the fact that she 652 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: would instigate a conversation. 653 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 2: With the man. 654 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: And I guarantee you at no point in this woman's 655 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: life has she ever instigated a conversation with the man. 656 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: She was never the first person to say something. 657 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 2: I agree. Okay, So anyway. 658 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: That's out there, that could be a reverse position for 659 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: U spanglish. You could be hired by men to see 660 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: if their wives are cheating. 661 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean there's a chance. You're a celebrity, 662 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 2: now there's a chance. Yeah. 663 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 3: Now you know how bad I would feel doing anything 664 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 3: like that. It just sounds like a horrible person thing. 665 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: Well, I think she justifies it as I'm saving women 666 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: from future heartache. I think that's how she's justifying it 667 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: to herself, is that she. 668 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 3: Is listen to the sentence the influencer twenty nine, who 669 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty thousand dollars of online funded curves 670 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 3: turn heads. 671 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 2: Come on. 672 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: Her quote was, it's wild how many men don't even 673 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: hesitate to give into temptation. I don't reach out to 674 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: anyone on my own. These women come to me, and honestly, 675 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: I get it. I'd want to know too, So you know, 676 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: there's a market for everything and this is out there. 677 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: So if some very well enhanced woman slides into your 678 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: DMS today, first of all, if you have that big 679 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: a dummy to think that would happen organically, we got 680 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: to find piece of swamp land in Jersey we want 681 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: to sell you and too. Just know that this woman's 682 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: out here making bank off of your inability to keep 683 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: your As one of the guys that got caught on 684 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: to catch Predator one time described it, keep your jeens 685 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: in your gens. 686 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 2: Yep, it's a trap. 687 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: How about that your jeans in your genes? Okay, let's 688 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: take a break. Jerry is in for Casey today. We 689 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: got a big hour coming up for you. Coming up 690 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: at ten thirty. Casey Smith from the Capitol Chronicles gonna 691 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: be with us. They did a big expos on this 692 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: whole Tom klein Helter saga about the and the state 693 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: Police ADI page probably cause Avid David, he's the due 694 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: Boys County sheriff which was accused of impropriety with commissary money, 695 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: close ally of Governor Braun. We'll have her to talk 696 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: about that, and then we're also going to do a 697 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: deep dive on all things. Rubio was all over the 698 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: talk circuit yesterday with the big Trump putin meeting with 699 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: Trump and Zelensky are supposed to meet coming up here 700 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: within a couple hours perhaps, so we'll get you the 701 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: latest on that. It's gonna be a big hour Radio. 702 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: Jerry's in for Casey. It's Kenney Casey Show eighty three. 703 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 2: W youc