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Speaker 1: I am still on a speeding bullet or power a

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Speaker 1: locomotive about believe all buildings had a single bound up

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Speaker 1: in the pie.

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Speaker 2: Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincoln Busnan.

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Speaker 3: Gun Lincoln, BA.

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Speaker 2: Say that cat Lincoln is a bad mother. We're just

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Speaker 2: talking about Lincoln.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Cincinnati.

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Speaker 5: Welcome to twelve thirty w DBZ. We are the buzz

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Speaker 5: of Cincinnati, your talk station. The Lincoln were show to

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Speaker 5: one o'clock this afternoon. There's a lot going on around

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Speaker 5: the Trice State, the nation, and the world. Happy veterans,

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Speaker 5: date all your veterans out there and thank you for

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Speaker 5: your service. And we've got a lot of freebies out

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Speaker 5: there for veterans today.

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Speaker 2: You veterans, you can cash in.

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Speaker 5: On some free food, a lot of free stuff out there.

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Speaker 2: They've been having a.

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Speaker 5: They said they give you a free meal at the casino.

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Speaker 2: I'm running at which restaurant which I don't.

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Speaker 5: Know, the one by the sports book, I don't know where,

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Speaker 5: but free meal veterans at the heart Rock Casino.

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Speaker 2: What's up with that? Man? That's a good one.

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Speaker 5: Well, the Department of Justice as the Supreme Court to

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Speaker 5: throw out the ex councilman PG sitting Feil's conviction. It

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Speaker 5: means you'll get his money back, his fines he had

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Speaker 5: to pay for what forty thousand dollars or something like that.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, PG and when he's ready to talk, he's

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Speaker 5: coming here. He already told me. And guess who's talking now,

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Speaker 5: Jeff Pastor.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he's looking.

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Speaker 5: For a pardon and it's a possible return to public life. Okay,

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Speaker 5: Jeff Pastor. And he'll be in here at eleven, so

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Speaker 5: make sure you tune in. We got a lot of

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Speaker 5: questions for Jeff. He found God in jail. Yes, it's amazing.

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Speaker 5: The jails do a better job than the churches do

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Speaker 5: of having people find God. They do a better job

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Speaker 5: jails do than churches because some of the most hardened

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Speaker 5: criminals they go to jail and all of a sudden

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Speaker 5: they find God, just that simple. Churches can't get him

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Speaker 5: to do that while they're out, but once they get

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Speaker 5: go to jail, they find God.

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Speaker 2: I want to ask Jeff Pastor about that too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I got a bunch of questions for him. He'll

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Speaker 5: be here at eleven o'clock. Eleven o'clock, he says, he's

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Speaker 5: coming through, so we'll hear what he has to say.

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Speaker 5: And he, you know, he cried, you know, when PG

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Speaker 5: left jail, he cried all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Man. I mean they were in the same jail there

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Speaker 5: Same council, you know, and that's something that it's amazing

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Speaker 5: how that stuff works out. But he cried when PG left. Yeah, unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: I guess it was happy. He was happy for him.

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Speaker 5: And he knew the news about pg's pardon before PG knew.

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Speaker 2: He knew PG was getting out of jail.

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Speaker 5: He somehow he had talked to his wife back home

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Speaker 5: and they heard it here before before PG got the news,

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Speaker 5: he told PG and that was the first time he

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Speaker 5: heard about PG had heard about it. Yeah, so interesting

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Speaker 5: comments from Jeff Pastor. Yes, I can't wait to talk

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Speaker 5: to him. So make sure you tune in. All right,

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Speaker 5: let's see what else is happening.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot a motorists. Man, this happened right on

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Speaker 5: seventy one. I mean, are you safe anywhere anymore? Motorists?

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Speaker 5: Just drive me down seventy one and a guy starts

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Speaker 5: shooting at the vehicle up there in Warren County on

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Speaker 5: I don't know. But Faison, you know. But he's a

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Speaker 5: black guy arrested for felonious assault and shooting a firearm

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Speaker 5: on the highway. And the person he shot had called

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Speaker 5: the state patrol called ninety one one just before eleven am,

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Speaker 5: said the vehicle had been shot on the highway, and

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Speaker 2: Y'all gotta be careful with this road rage stuff. I

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Speaker 5: It could be some road rage or I don't know

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Speaker 5: He's being held on one hundred and fifty thousand cash

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Speaker 5: these cats get out of jail that's doing all this

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Speaker 2: He'll be in jail. He'll be in jail.

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Speaker 5: They need to pass that along to these Hamilton County

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Speaker 5: judges that are making it easy for these shooters to

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Speaker 5: get out. Yeah, veterans, I'll go over some of the

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Speaker 5: places where you can get some free food today, So

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Speaker 5: stick around for that. Ohio lawmakers have approved they approved

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Speaker 5: a one point two million dollars for repairs at Central

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Speaker 5: State University. Now, I don't know what happened, but they

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Speaker 5: asked for four million, but lawmakers scaled back the plan. Now,

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Speaker 5: I don't know how much they can get done with

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Speaker 2: They got to do the air condition and.

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Speaker 5: The sprinkler system and all kind of stuff they have

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Speaker 5: million dollars to do it. But they had given them

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Speaker 5: money before they hired a contractor and the contractor didn't

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Speaker 5: finish the job. What who did they get to do

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Speaker 5: this that they didn't finish the job? What happened there?

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Speaker 5: That's what those are the questions I want to ask,

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Speaker 5: Who in the hell did they hire and the person

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Speaker 5: didn't finish the job. Then they had to go back

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Speaker 5: to try to get more money to get the job.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I just don't know. I just don't know.

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Speaker 5: Central State always having a lot of financial problems, always

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Speaker 5: so we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. Looks like Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 5: Joe Burrow is back practicing with the team throwing and

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Speaker 5: says he might be back on Thanksgiving night. He might

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Speaker 5: be back Thanksgiving. I think we play the Ravens on

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Speaker 5: Thanksgiving night.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if he can play defense, and he

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Speaker 5: needs to play, you know, he needs to play.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully.

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Speaker 5: They taught these cats out to tackle during the bye week.

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Speaker 5: Don't tackle at the waist, tackle at the ankle, get

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Speaker 5: the waist. Oh boy, that's crazy. I was at the

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Speaker 5: Xavier would just run over this little team Minor what

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Speaker 5: was minor raise somewhere in California. I think this team

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Speaker 5: You're supposed to play these teams that are not that

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Speaker 5: learning and doing this, and you're supposed to run over

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Speaker 5: these cats. These cats took Xavier to the cleaners. Oh man,

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Speaker 5: it was. It was a no contest at halftime, it

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Speaker 5: was over. They were down like nineteen points at halftime.

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Speaker 5: It was a blood bath. And I did get a

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Speaker 5: chance to walk the ball out to Senate court, present

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Speaker 5: the ball to the official, and uh yeah Santa Clair. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Santa Clair in the UH in the tournament. I'm telling you,

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Speaker 5: if they're in the tournament, I'm betting on Santa Cla

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Speaker 5: uh for the first two games. Anyway, the way they played, man,

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Speaker 5: I mean they they didn't take any stuff. Man, Let's

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Speaker 5: see what else is going on here, oh man. Mark

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Speaker 5: Jeffries City Council says he is definitely considering running for

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Speaker 5: mayor in maybe four years. Yeah, four years, that's a

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Speaker 2: Because it's gonna be very competitive running for mayor.

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Speaker 5: And you know, Jan Michelle, you know sort of you know,

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Speaker 5: don't wait until one year out and say you better

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Speaker 5: tell him now you running for mayor, and uh yeah,

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Speaker 5: do all the things you need to do to gear

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Speaker 5: City of Cincinnati. Mark Jeffery's not wasting any time. He says,

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Speaker 5: my hat is in the ring. Jan Michelle, you should

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Speaker 5: do the same. Don't wait, don't wait, all right, Clifford

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Speaker 5: says he saw me on TV last night, and did

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Speaker 5: you see that whooping Xavior took?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 5: That was ah jeez, a whooping right in your backyard.

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Speaker 5: Now you see takes on Dayton tonight, which should be

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Speaker 5: a good game. They always play tough Dayton and the Bearcats.

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Speaker 5: I think it's here at Fifth Third Arena, So I

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Speaker 2: At Zizhavior in their arena.

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Speaker 5: It's I tell you, that's a nice arena for concerts

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Speaker 2: I don't know whether it's really built.

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Speaker 5: For that, but man, it's I don't know why they

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Speaker 5: I don't know, but I guess. Xavier said, we don't

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Speaker 5: need the drama. We don't need it oo here, we

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Speaker 5: What else.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this guy that ran into the house out there

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Speaker 5: it on De Soto De Soto out there, Springfield Township?

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Speaker 2: And did he do it on purpose.

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Speaker 5: Or I don't know, but it looked like he drove

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Speaker 2: And now he's arrested. Three people were injured.

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Speaker 5: The truck crashed into a home near the eighty six

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Speaker 5: hundred block of the Solo Drive. This was like in

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Speaker 5: the afternoon and the home, the house just suffered a

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: They may have to tear that house down before it's

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Speaker 5: all said and done. There were three individuals in the home,

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Speaker 2: But it looks like.

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Speaker 5: He knew people were in there and he was trying

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Speaker 5: to hurt him. Crazy the interim police chief doing things

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Speaker 5: that doesn't seem like interim. Maybe somebody told him something,

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Speaker 5: you gonna be the real chief. He's made the swat

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Speaker 5: team full time. Now we have a full time swat

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Speaker 5: team in Cincinnati. Yeah, and people on council didn't know

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Speaker 5: anything about it. I don't know whether they needed to know.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. Did Scottie Johnson need to know?

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Speaker 2: Did he know? But they said, this guy.

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Speaker 5: Making moves like he's not the interim chief, like he's

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Speaker 5: the regular chief. So there are no requirements for interim

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Speaker 5: Chief Henny to get approvals before making changes to the

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Speaker 5: police department. In fact, in the heat of the violent summer,

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Speaker 5: Downtown Cincinnati Council wrote a five point four million dollar

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Speaker 2: To CPD to bring down the violence.

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Speaker 5: I said, they do all this stuff when the weather

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Speaker 5: This stuff should have been done back in July, but

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Speaker 5: it wasn't done. But now it is and we'll see

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Speaker 8: Tiffany, good morning, Good morning, Lincoln.

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Speaker 3: How are you.

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Speaker 5: I'm doing great, doing great. How was your weekend? I

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Speaker 8: Yes, I had a good weekend, no complaints. But it

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Speaker 2: Yes, you were missed, yes, yes, yes.

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Speaker 8: And happy Veterans Day.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you, thank you, ma'am. Who are we looking

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Speaker 8: David Turner is wanted by the Ohio Adult Parole Authority

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Speaker 8: with burglary. David Turner is a fifty year old mel White.

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Speaker 8: He's six foot and one hundred and fifty pounds. David

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Speaker 8: I'll talk to you tomorrow. Have a great day.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 5: seven twelve thirty Few places Cracker Barrel giving you a

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Speaker 5: Dunkin Donuts get a free donut today over duncan go

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Speaker 5: what else? Uh A bunch of them out there, red lobster,

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Speaker 5: I don't know why they were doing all this stuff

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Speaker 10: What's going on late?

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Speaker 2: I'm hanging in there. What's on your mind?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Donald Trump throwing our party like draws around.

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Speaker 2: Yes he is, Yes he is.

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Speaker 10: He might as well go ahead and free R Kelly

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Speaker 10: and P didd it.

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Speaker 5: It's coming. I think P Diddy is coming now. R Kelly,

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Speaker 10: PTE Diddy got in trouble on his first week.

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Speaker 1: He got drunk in jail over Yeah I know.

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Speaker 2: They found some liquor. Yeah, he was drinking liquor.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, but you know what they what, He's building up

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Speaker 10: in the partner Gallen Maxwell. You hear what they said

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Speaker 10: he's been a partner that Calena Maxwell later because she

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Speaker 2: She got she knows all, she knows everything for sure.

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Speaker 10: Probably she probably the one got those pictures of him

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Speaker 2: Him a boy.

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Speaker 5: All right, all right, thanks for your call, all right,

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Speaker 5: Somebody would have found him by now, unless she had

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Speaker 5: Out Back Steakhouse offering the free r S three course

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Speaker 5: meal with a valid military ID when dining in. That's today.

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Speaker 5: About that raising cane. You'll get ten percent off dining

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Speaker 5: and drive through orders. So shrimp and chips at Red Lobster.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, there's a bunch of stuff out there. Let's

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Speaker 5: take a break. We'll come back. Lincoln Wear twelve thirty,

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Speaker 5: the buzz. He's off today and you land him out there, Chad, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: a little bit of sliding the family stone. Yeah, And

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Speaker 5: Trance Towered.

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Speaker 2: He always he can puts it in there.

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Speaker 5: But he complains his perfect playlist is being destroyed because

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Speaker 2: A couple other things.

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Speaker 5: The new introim police chief.

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Speaker 2: Has put together a permanent, permanent.

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Speaker 5: Swat team in Cincinnati now and they don't sit around

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Speaker 5: I'm glad to see that happen. I'm glad to see

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 5: The Democrats taking a lot of heat. Senate Democrats, the

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Speaker 2: In you know, in earnest.

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Speaker 5: They're not gonna try to do something with this Obamacare subsidies.

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Speaker 5: You can trust the Democrats, I mean the Republicans, you

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Speaker 5: can't trust them. You can't trust Republicans will negotiate if

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Speaker 5: they pastors Bill. Okay, they've set up a meeting, they

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Speaker 2: That's it. We met with you.

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Speaker 5: It's over. And then they walk out. What are you

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Speaker 2: Mustapa.

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Speaker 12: How are you feeling good? Yeah? Man, yes, there, I

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Speaker 2: How did you? How did you get a free turkey?

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Speaker 12: Was at the free store food bank? Oh okay, here's

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Speaker 6: In in the bag. I call it dressing.

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Speaker 12: Yes, I'm standing there by the lady putting my stuff

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Speaker 12: He said, is there a fair role here?

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Speaker 7: Fair roll?

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Speaker 12: He said, yeah, that's me.

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Speaker 6: Hey, that's my stuff it and I looked at her.

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Speaker 12: I said, damn, is that the favorite.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you for a fact that wasn't him.

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Speaker 2: I knew it wasn't him.

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Speaker 12: No, I don't know what you looked like that was

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Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you what were you?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I thought you, you know, you had a

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Speaker 12: A free turkey, Okay, that's what I was doing there,

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Speaker 12: damn free turkey just.

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Speaker 5: Because that was free, just because it was free, or

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Speaker 5: that you really you couldn't afford to get one on

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Speaker 12: Look, I want to get that free one fifty two.

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Speaker 12: If they're giving away free, I'm going over.

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Speaker 5: Well, you can't get to one fifty less you have

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Speaker 5: a snap card. You got to have a snap card.

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Speaker 12: Oh well, I'm a taxpayer anyway, So I paid you

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Speaker 12: for this craft. I'm going to get see you.

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Speaker 2: You probably took a turkey out of someone else's mouth.

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Speaker 6: No, I did not.

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Speaker 12: There's millions of turkeys out there, my man, feel me,

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Speaker 12: people standing in line for turkeys. They're getting turkeys away everywhere.

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Speaker 12: Not everywhere, but a lot of places. So why not me?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: I work every day, absolutely, and I deserve a free

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, I'm believing me, old boy.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if you can afford one, you let leave

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Speaker 12: If you got in your job, Yeah, but that that no,

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Speaker 5: No, It's different from me going to Saint Denny's and

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Speaker 5: getting a breakfast.

445
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Speaker 2: Grand slam. You should get your veteran, your veteran.

446
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 5: So they're offering it to veterans, they're not offering Wait

447
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 5: a minute, do.

448
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 12: You know how much free stuff police get?

449
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: Fire Why do they?

450
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 12: Why do they get free stuff because they're a fireman

451
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 12: or policemen, were breaks any anybody. If they're offering it free,

452
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 12: you're entitled to it. Y'all out there want something?

453
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Speaker 5: But I thought you you have to qualify, You have

454
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 5: to be uh in a certain income level, even at

455
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Speaker 5: the free store.

456
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Speaker 12: Don't you know what I mean free store? No, sir,

457
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 12: no you do not.

458
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 6: You just going registered.

459
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. You should you should be you should be ashamed.

460
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 12: Of your So we're supposed to leave all the free

461
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 12: stuff on the table, right, you're supposed.

462
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: To leave it for people who can afford it.

463
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 12: No, that's no, No, that's not what the sign say. No, No,

464
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 12: it's not for people who.

465
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 11: Down there.

466
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Speaker 2: No, it's not for anybody that wants to go down there.

467
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 6: It's not. No, it's not you know what an apartment

468
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 6: building on there there.

469
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 12: They used to have three stuff on the entrance table.

470
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 6: Anybody that wanted.

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Speaker 12: You can take it, and didn't say if you meet

472
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 12: this income. Okay, so cut it out.

473
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 2: Oh boy, I tell you I would.

474
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 5: I would have been embarrassed to stand up there if

475
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 5: you could afford to get your own turkeys and.

476
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: Everything you got.

477
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 5: No, please, thanks for your call now, and now he

478
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 5: throws the insults buy my haircut. Now, he throws insults

479
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 5: when he knows he should be embarrassed for going down

480
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 5: to the free store when he can afford to buy

481
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 5: his own turkey and dressing, not stuffing. And then he

482
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 5: tries to throw pharoh in there to make himself look good.

483
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 5: You know what I they asked for the payroll out there. No,

484
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 5: I'm not buying that one either. I can't believe it.

485
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 5: Mustafa that turkey. They're gonna run out turkeys at some

486
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 5: point and then somebody's gonna show up there and they're

487
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 5: gonna say we're all out, and you might have their turkey.

488
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: What a crying shame? All right?

489
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 5: Uh Curtis Wells, Yeah, mister ware.

490
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 6: Yes, this thing about honoring and what is it? What

491
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 6: the drop in say that it was terrence honoring and celebrating,

492
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 6: honoring and respecting the servicemen.

493
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about it?

494
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 6: No, Well, you know, if that's the case, I'd like

495
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 6: to deal with encouragement, support and if you could, if

496
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 6: you could play some songs by individuals African America that served.

497
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 6: Jimmy Hendrix was a Airborne trooper. Walter and the Whispers

498
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 6: went to Vietnam, playing some music from actual music. If

499
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 6: it's in the playlist, if you we're gonna respect, I

500
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 6: don't know.

501
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:09,959
Speaker 2: Look, I don't know.

502
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 5: Look I haven't I haven't had chance to research everybody

503
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 5: who's got a song out there, whether they was in

504
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 5: the military or not. You obviously you've had time. You

505
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 5: you had time to sit down and research this, and

506
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 5: you come to me like I'm supposed to be doing

507
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 5: no know who they are?

508
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 7: What you look?

509
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 6: You let the guy talk about Trump on some lunacy.

510
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 6: I'm talking to talk about respect and honor. We can

511
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 6: look with there, musicians, just look walk the Scott is

512
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 6: an easy one. The Whispers you got that. I know, Jimmy,

513
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 6: Jimmy Hender's cutting may be a stretch for the Buzz,

514
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 6: but Jimmy, clearly.

515
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 2: We might have watched Tower. We might have watched Tower.

516
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 11: That's what I'm saying that that's one of my favorite songs.

517
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: By the way, it was one of my favorite songs.

518
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 6: So if we're saying respect and honor, if they're musicians

519
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 6: on Veterans Day after Americans, let it flow.

520
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: Thanks for your call.

521
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 5: And you know he's in he's research. He can name

522
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 5: all the ones who have been in the service. You know,

523
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 5: Georgie McCrae and Gwynn McCrae. I think they both were

524
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 5: in the service. Geez, oh boy, let's take a break.

525
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 5: We'll come back twelve thirty the bus because of Cincinnati

526
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 5: your talk station link and where with you till one

527
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 5: o'clock coming up in one revenue shopping keeping it real. Hey,

528
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 5: we're just getting ready to get started on our uh

529
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 5: stuff the bus. Yeah, so we're gonna try to fill

530
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 5: a standard sized metro bus with toys to give back

531
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Speaker 5: to our local families in need this holiday season. All

532
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 5: donations will be given to the Cincinnati Recreation Center and

533
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 5: they'll have their big.

534
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: Extravaganza and they'll.

535
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 5: Give these kids toys, toys which they probably wouldn't be

536
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 5: able to their parents may not be able to afford

537
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 5: this holiday season. And how the way you can help

538
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 5: is stopping at one of our three locations Walmart locations

539
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 5: will be and you can drop the toys out between

540
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 5: noon and three. Will be on the November twenty ninth

541
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 5: will be at the Red Bank Walmart that's four thousand

542
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 5: Red Bank Road. And December sixth will be in Evendale

543
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 5: right there on Cunningham Road. And then December thirteenth will

544
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 5: be in Westchester Cincinnati Dayton Road. And we'll also take

545
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 5: no donations here in the station lobby at one Centennial

546
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 5: Plaza on Central Avenue, seven oh five Central. So you

547
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 5: have many different ways to donate a toy for these kids.

548
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 5: We're gonna stuff the bus with Christmas toys, so make

549
00:32:54,800 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 5: sure you participate in that. And maybe Mustafa won't go

550
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 5: to the Recreation Commission and try to get free toys

551
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 5: from these kids.

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00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: You know, he said they're free toys. I'm gonna get

553
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: me one.

554
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 5: You know, maybe he won't go and try to get

555
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 5: a toy that a kid could use U at the

556
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 5: you know, at when the Recreation Commission give those toys out,

557
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 5: all right, five one, three, seven, twelve thirty. Hey Jesse,

558
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 5: what's going on much Lincoln?

559
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 6: What are you doing that.

560
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: I'm hanging in there? What's on your mind?

561
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 9: Be better to day? Thank you for your service.

562
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, dig I think.

563
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 6: We should look at this the eight Democrats a little

564
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 6: bit differently.

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Speaker 11: Now, check this out. As a result of what they've done,

566
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Speaker 11: they paid snap paid the federal workers. Now they vote

567
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 11: has to go back to.

568
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Speaker 1: The House, right, Yes, the only way to vote in

569
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: the House is to have a full house.

570
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Speaker 11: That means they have to swear.

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Speaker 9: To the lady in.

572
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Speaker 11: And then if you swear the lady in outcomes to

573
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Speaker 11: Epstein files.

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00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

575
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 11: Yeah, so those are all wins. That's four winds. Now

576
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 11: they put the Republicans back on their heels because they say,

577
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 11: well if they say no, we don't want to take

578
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 11: the vote, because they've been and I say, bitch in

579
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 11: the morning, they've been mad for a long time about

580
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Speaker 11: the not about the eight not voting, so they already

581
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 11: did it.

582
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, now it's in that court.

583
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.

584
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 11: So actually it's not. It really wasn't a jump ship.

585
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 11: It was a push of the hand. Because now that's

586
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 11: five things that that are positive for the D side

587
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 11: and it's gonna be kind of rough for.

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Speaker 6: The R side to say we don't want to do that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I hear you, I hear you.

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Speaker 5: I mean they got to swear that a congresswoman in.

592
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,479
Speaker 5: They got to swear in. They can't hold out any longer.

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00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 5: This is ridiculous.

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00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 11: Well, I mean the hand has been pushed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think.

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Speaker 5: They go to the vote in what January, Uh, January

597
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 5: January thirty first, Yeah, January first.

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00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 11: January thirty first. So January thirty first. Uh, the lady

599
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 11: is gonna have to get sworn in because they're gonna

600
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Speaker 11: have to take the vote. And if they don't take.

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Speaker 6: The vote, then then reprobably gonnas are gonna look bad.

602
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 6: It's gonna look like you're covering up for a pedophile

603
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 6: in the biggest, biggest way.

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Speaker 11: And I just want to say something else. Too many

605
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Speaker 11: I called the last time.

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00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: You know, I was kind of.

607
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Speaker 11: Mad because you know, it was going on with my

608
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 11: wife and things was happening. Yeah, and I want to

609
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 11: and I'm calling now to say I thank and love.

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00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 6: The community for loving on the Roly family and we

611
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 6: appreciate it because my wife is back, happy and smiling.

612
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 6: She's on your show. We did another show, so she's back.

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00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: A happy wife is a happy life.

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Speaker 11: Oh indeed, it is all right, brother, Thanks for your call.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Yes, happy wife, happy life, unhappy wife, hell of

616
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Speaker 5: a life?

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Speaker 2: Yes, uh oh right.

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Speaker 5: Five, one, three, seven, twelve thirty. Let's go to Brandy. Brandy,

619
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Speaker 5: how are.

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Speaker 2: You doing today?

621
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Speaker 3: Hi, Lincoln, I'm hanging.

622
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 2: In there, Brandy. What's on your mind?

623
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Speaker 3: Well, I just want to what's your happy back in day?

624
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: Thank you?

625
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 3: Along with my dad who's for thirteen years in the army. Okay,

626
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 3: and my aunt she is a little bit older than you,

627
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 3: but she was a Joe sergeant in the army.

628
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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: My nephew who I called you about earlier. He now

630
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 3: has a year under his belt in the Marines. So

631
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Speaker 3: he's in Beaufort right now.

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00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 5: Okay, Oh that's where I went. That's where I went

633
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 5: to boot camp in Beauford, South Carolina. Yes, he's there

634
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 5: at the right time of year. Also, he's there at

635
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 5: the right time of year. In the summertime. It's brutal

636
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 5: in Beauford.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: Well, he got his his job and the one that

639
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 3: he wanted, and he's he's happy. I'm very proud of him, yes, yes,

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00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 3: but because his Veterans Day, I don't think you should

641
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 3: let any of the Trumpers call and you know, President, well,

642
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 3: I don't even want to say, President, you know forty

643
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 3: five thinks that you guys are all suckers.

644
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 5: And yes, yes, yes, yes, he said he regrets saying that. Boy,

645
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 5: I know he's just swinging, fighting, hitting air for that

646
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 5: getting out that he said that, he said every bit

647
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 5: of it said they were losers and suckers.

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00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 3: Yes, he said, yeah, so they shouldn't be able to

649
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 3: call today because they basically think that, you know, the

650
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 3: men and women in my family and you are suckers

651
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 3: and losing. So I don't think they should be. But

652
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 3: I just want to, you know, thank all the veterans

653
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 3: out there, and I greatly appreciate your sacrifice that you know,

654
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 3: I couldn't make myself. So yes, yeah, if you just

655
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 3: think about the commitment that you guys went through and

656
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 3: what you guys truly gave up.

657
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 5: I'm thinking about this honor yours. Was a drill sergeant

658
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 5: in the in the Army. What year was she in.

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00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 3: There, I'm not I'm not sure, but she I want

660
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: to say the sixties and seventies.

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00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:16,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was saying.

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Speaker 5: For a black drill sergeant back in those days. That's

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Speaker 5: pretty good. That's pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And like she's pretty tough. I mean, she lives

665
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Speaker 3: in Chicago. She was a school teacher, retired from that,

666
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 3: you know, so now she's living pretty good.

667
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, she.

668
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 3: Got retirement from you know, teaching in the military. Yes,

669
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 3: all right, yeah. So I just want to send my

670
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: appreciation out to all the veterans out there and you know,

671
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: and active service members because again, if you really think

672
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 3: about this, what you guys gave up to fight for

673
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 3: this country who doesn't love you in return, it means

674
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: a lot.

675
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 5: Well, I just feel sorry for the active duty servicemen

676
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 5: now with who they have, I'm leading them, you know,

677
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 5: head said cag sapt And Donald Trump, Oh man, I

678
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 5: feel sorry.

679
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 2: For those cats.

680
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 10: Yeah.

681
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 3: I try not to watch the news because it just

682
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 3: makes me so angry that they just don't care about

683
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 3: the people that they're being paid to protect. Like President

684
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 3: Trump basically told the American people to go eat cake

685
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 3: while he fills a ballroom that I'm not going to

686
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 3: be able to dance in. But yet, I work, and

687
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 3: I have a full time job, and it's hard to

688
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 3: support my family.

689
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 9: You know.

690
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 3: I was in Audise the other day and a five

691
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 3: pounds like container of brown beef was twenty seven dollars five.

692
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 2: That's crazy, Augie.

693
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 3: So now like people who think like if you have

694
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Speaker 3: a job, you should be able to afford stuff like no,

695
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 3: it all trickles down to like us.

696
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 5: Yep, all right, well said Brandy, thanks for calling. I

697
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 5: appreciate you, Brandy.

698
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you.

699
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 5: All right, that's a Brandy laying it out there, telling

700
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 5: it like it is. All right, let's go to let's see.

701
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Speaker 5: I have time for one more call before break. Jimmy,

702
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 5: how are.

703
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 7: You hey here?

704
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 2: What's up?

705
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 7: Jimmy? I have to show this out there here? Is

706
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 7: it one of your favorites? Says if it free for me?

707
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

708
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 7: So so so you know it don't be too hard.

709
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 5: Well, now that doesn't apply to a place like the

710
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 5: free store.

711
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 2: You know it's different.

712
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 5: Uh you know, free store giving out food for people

713
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 5: who can't if they would starve if they didn't get

714
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 5: food from the free store food bank. So for somebody

715
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 5: who can buy their own food to go down there

716
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 5: and take a free turkey that somebody else could be enjoying,

717
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 5: I don't have any love for him.

718
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 7: Oh okay, but you've gotten a whole lot of tree stuff.

719
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 2: Well, but that's I keep telling you that's different. It's different.

720
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: I don't know why you can't see the difference in that.

721
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get I'm gonna get to.

722
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 5: Okay, just like the casino, they're giving you a free meal,

723
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 5: hard Rock casino a free meal. So that's not that's

724
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 5: for veterans only, get the free meal. It's not that

725
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 5: you're gonna take food from a homeless person that they

726
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 5: were gonna give it to them.

727
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: That's what it's different.

728
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 7: But you have to take it to consideration. And there's

729
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 7: so much stuff they've given away that you know, if

730
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 7: they don't give it away, then they're gonna throw it away.

731
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

732
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 5: Well, I don't think they're gonna be throwing away turkeys

733
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 5: that people don't come and get. Believe me, they're gonna

734
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 5: they're gonna go through every turkey or chicken that they

735
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 5: have down at the free store food bank this holiday season.

736
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 7: I'm telling you, okay, okay, let me kill on such quick.

737
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 7: I know your time is pressed, But anyway, Joe Burrow,

738
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 7: why would they why would he want to?

739
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 1: Really?

740
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 7: Get ready? The bingles is three and six by the

741
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 7: time he'll probably be three and eight about.

742
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 5: But you don't know what's gonna happen in this division.

743
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 5: This this is a weak division, and uh uh, you

744
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 5: know they could knock each other off and the Bengals

745
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:32,479
Speaker 5: could come out on top.

746
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 2: You just never know, uh with this division, I mean

747
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: you can't get you get a Joe thirty eight points? Yeah, well, yeah,

748
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree there.

749
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 5: You know, even if Burrow comes back and throws up

750
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 5: forty points, that doesn't.

751
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 2: Mean we're gonna win. You're right, you're you're right about that.

752
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: But I know you just have to try.

753
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 5: Maybe if Burrow was in that game when we made

754
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 5: that last drive, he maybe he could have scored the touchdown.

755
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 2: Remember when we tried to make that last drive and

756
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: we came.

757
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 5: Up short, right right, maybe Burrow would have completed that pass.

758
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 7: And who's to say that Joe Burrow goill come in

759
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 7: there score thirty eight that this is.

760
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: True, This is true.

761
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 5: You lose you lose some sharpness when you off that

762
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 5: long and he's going to be trying to protect that

763
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 5: toe and I don't think his passes are going to

764
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 5: be as sharp as he normally is.

765
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 7: Right. And one more thing, with this government hopefully opening

766
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 7: up so these folks at the airport, it's crazy crazy.

767
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 7: There's so much disruption at the airport. They've got to

768
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 7: open up this government and get these people back to work. Yes, yes,

769
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 7: but anyway, okay, I'll let you go and have a

770
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 7: good day.

771
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for your call.

772
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 5: All right, all right, we've got news coming up right

773
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 5: here on twelve thirty the buzz d b Z Lincoln

774
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 5: where it's Tuesday. Yes, it is to day and it's

775
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 5: Veterans Day. So the city is closed, the county is closed.

776
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 5: I think the state is closed to you know, I

777
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 5: couldn't believe it. Central Avenue was like bear this morning.

778
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 5: Now I'm like, what's up? And then I forgot there

779
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 5: were no cars out there. People doing business with the city,

780
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 5: and normally you can't find a space out there, but

781
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 5: this time, you know, spaces are everywhere because they're closed

782
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 5: down today.

783
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 2: All right, five, one, three, seven thirty. Looks like al

784
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 2: is up?

785
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 10: Ol, How are you good?

786
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 6: Look?

787
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 9: I expect love and bucks.

788
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 7: Thanks protecting my car.

789
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 9: Hey, I wanted to meet on the FBI. I guess

790
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 9: I guess the new FBI team that's going to be

791
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 9: in Cincinnati.

792
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: FBI team. What FBI team not swat Oh, SWAT team.

793
00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, the swat team.

794
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 9: Are you familiar. Well, just yesterday I saw something about

795
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 9: private prisons. Yeah, suing states, specific states for underpopulation of

796
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 9: jails because they're not arresting enough people.

797
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know.

798
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 5: How they can sue. I don't know how they could

799
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 5: sue for that. I mean, you got a business, and

800
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 5: maybe business is not so good right now. You know

801
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 5: it's a private business and business is not good. So

802
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 5: how you're going to sue somebody because your business is

803
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:38,439
Speaker 5: not good?

804
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 9: Because most of the time there's a contract that's involved

805
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 9: to say that. You know, you're going to make sure

806
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 9: that my facility is populated seventy seventy five percent, you know,

807
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 9: no less than say fifty five percent. Going under fifty percent,

808
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 9: you know, we got a problem because they're losing money

809
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 9: some kind of way. I don't know how, but some

810
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 9: kind of way. But you know, this stuff is it

811
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 9: is out there. It's not like I'm making it up,

812
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 9: But I was just saying that you if you were

813
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 9: aware of it by the story that you you know,

814
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 9: had today. As far as the swat team being a

815
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 9: thing in Cincinnati.

816
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I think it's a good I'm okay with it.

817
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 5: Why anything to keep people from getting shot. I mean,

818
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 5: there's too many innocent people getting shot by these knuckleheads

819
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 5: out there, and not that a full time swat team

820
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 5: is gonna stop a shooting in the West End if

821
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 5: they're right there.

822
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 7: Right there.

823
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 9: What you just said that part, that part right that

824
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 9: part right there. So so what's the what's the team for?

825
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 2: I mean, it's to try to prevent crime and to

826
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 2: be on the scene if you need to.

827
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 9: You already said that.

828
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: Well, but we never know.

829
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 9: I mean I understand, I understand they never know, But

830
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 9: why don't we always you know, presume innocent before guilty,

831
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 9: because like a lot of these shootings that you know

832
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 9: that go unsolved, we don't know what party is doing

833
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 9: the shooting. We don't know if it's a random person,

834
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 9: if they're black, if they're white, if they're from this city, state, country,

835
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 9: or whatever. We just have somebody that's dead, and then

836
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 9: they pose a story or narrative about what happened, and

837
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 9: then it goes away and then people's lives are changed.

838
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 9: It's just like the Ryan Hinton thing, that that whole story,

839
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 9: I mean, those people's lives are changed that you know,

840
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 9: went on for a week, two weeks a month, but

841
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 9: now it's under the rugs. On fifteen, the Nazis that

842
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 9: was out there, I mean, that's up underneath the rug now.

843
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 9: Now we got a new chief. Now the things that

844
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 9: the OCHI you know, had that goes to the wayside.

845
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to deal with.

846
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 7: What the news.

847
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 5: Everybody wants to make their imprint. Everybody wants to you

848
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 5: come into a new job. You want to let people

849
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 5: see some changes for the better.

850
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,479
Speaker 9: But you know, the one thing that they won't show

851
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 9: what is justice. They won't show justice for all. They'll

852
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 9: just show justice for the ones that paying their paycheck

853
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 9: and once, I mean, and as long as they have

854
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 9: that over somebody, there's no justice. There's no justice. And

855
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 9: if I can, if I can hold your paycheck over you,

856
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 9: or I'm doing the right thing. Yeah, you're another to

857
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 9: the right thing.

858
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 5: All right, I got it, run now, thanks for your car, okay.

859
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 5: And the only right thing to do is read Deuteronomy

860
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 5: twenty eight. That's the only right thing to do now,

861
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 5: five one, three, twelve thirty. Let's go to the white

862
00:48:55,719 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 5: lie year Hello, hello, going once, going twice?

863
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, okay, sorry, let me get you out of this,

864
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: sa let me hold off.

865
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 11: That hold on, man, you can't be mad at people

866
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 11: when they ain't there for you because you be holding

867
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 11: people over on like for like.

868
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 2: Eighty please please, you know what I mean.

869
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 1: So, but I appreciate you taking my call. Now listen.

870
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: You know it absolutely blows.

871
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 7: My mind that you.

872
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: Haven't brought up one time on this fabulous radio show

873
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: about the pipe bomber out there when you gots talk

874
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: about this January sixth thing? Why have you? Why have

875
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: you not talked about how the Capitol Police officers DNA

876
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 1: was found on that pipe.

877
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 5: On that jeez, because I don't know for sure. Where

878
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 5: did where did you hear that? Where did you hear that?

879
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 9: Oh?

880
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: God, I got insider.

881
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 13: That's what.

882
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 5: Your insiders are not credible. So that's why I haven't

883
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 5: talked about it.

884
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: Why is no one talking about how our government, like

885
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: senators and the House and all that like, they held

886
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: our government close to help out local and competent democrats

887
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: to win their election. Now hear me out. You look

888
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: at the timeline here, So they keep it all closed,

889
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: They keep it all closed, They keep it all closed.

890
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: Now all the local elections happen, and then now they're

891
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 1: all like, yeah, let's make a deal now a week

892
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: after those elections. Why don't like they keep trying to

893
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: push me.

894
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 2: That's making deal now.

895
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 5: They the deal was on the table, the Republicans refused,

896
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 5: but now they want to What do you mean they

897
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 5: wouldn't take it now? No, we're talking about the deal.

898
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 5: I'm talking about the deal for the insurance premiums.

899
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: That's the deal they took Key Schumer keeping the government

900
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: shut down. And then now once these local elections are

901
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: over with, see now, and.

902
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 5: Then if that one's up to Schumer, we still would

903
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 5: be shut down. He's upset with those Democrats that crossed over.

904
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 2: So what are you talking about?

905
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: But now they want to sit there and act like

906
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: the Democrats cave.

907
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 5: They did what I mean, they did like the Democrats

908
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 5: did cave. I guess they felt guilty.

909
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: They didn't cave until they got these Democrats leaders elected.

910
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 5: That's crazy that that's been a week. That's been a

911
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 5: week ago. They would have came back the next day.

912
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 5: If that was a case, that's been a week ago.

913
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 5: What are you talking about?

914
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 7: Oh, I sit here and I listened to this.

915
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 5: And the fact that the Democrats did very well would

916
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 5: give them more motivation to not come back.

917
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 1: So I'm a loyal listener, Lincoln. I feel like I

918
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: am definitely up for Turkey of the Year the year,

919
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Okay, I am. And you know it,

920
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: and I know it all right, you know it.

921
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 5: Well, whoever wins the Turkey of the year's banned for

922
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 5: a few months.

923
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 2: How about that you change the rules just for me?

924
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 7: I know you.

925
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: See little do people know?

926
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 7: Lincoln?

927
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: When I saw you out at that walking club, me

928
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: and you was all cool. And remember when I pulled

929
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: up on you in the last Remember you was all like.

930
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 7: Key keep white lions.

931
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: I mean, we was all friends and buddies. Now see

932
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 1: you play this where you are? You don't white?

933
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 2: Just before I didn't know you. I didn't know you.

934
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 5: I didn't know your your your your position in politics.

935
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 5: I didn't know you were such a Trumpster.

936
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 2: But now I know. And first I didn't know. But

937
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 2: guess what now I know I was.

938
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: I've been the white lion since day one. Now see

939
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 1: what I found funny sometimes, Lincoln, is you'll get you'll

940
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: allow like your landsman and your pewter balls to come

941
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 1: in there and lie to you. But one thing you'll

942
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: never say is that white lion ever acted different in

943
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: front of you. Never. I ain't never came on this

944
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: show and tried to act different. I ain't never lied

945
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: to you. I stood on business, I've told you my feeling,

946
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: and I've never switched up on you.

947
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 2: Okay, and so hang up. You want some kind of

948
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 2: award for that?

949
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: No, No, I just think it's funny how y'all talk

950
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: about being real, but you allow these clowns to come in.

951
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 11: There and just water you up, just to make like.

952
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 7: It makes you feel good.

953
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 5: They're they're keeping it real that they're telling me what

954
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 5: I They're answering my questions the best that they can

955
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 5: at that time.

956
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess linked and whatever, man, whatever, man,

957
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 1: it's all good. Hey.

958
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 11: So I sit here and I listen to you guys.

959
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: Screamed from the top of your lungs. No kings, no kings.

960
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: We don't want no kings in this country.

961
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 2: That's right.

962
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: But to me, it seems like y'all look like a

963
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: bunch of peasants standing around.

964
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 11: Begging for bread.

965
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 5: And none of your none of your white friends or

966
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 5: family have snap cards.

967
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 11: I'm not saying that they don't.

968
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: Well, what are they talking about that?

969
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 5: Thanks for your car unbelievable. Unbelievable. Yeah, the Turkey of

970
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 5: the Year gets banned. Yes, so are you sure you

971
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 5: want to beat Turkey of the year unbelievable. All right,

972
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 5: let's take a break. We'll come back. Yeah, Jeff Pastor's

973
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 5: on his way. He's running a little late.

974
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: He's on his way, so he'll be in here.

975
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 5: Jeff Pastor out of jail and talking to the media now,

976
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 5: and tell him about his stay in the slammer.

977
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 2: And he used to be an atheist, I believe, but

978
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 2: now he went to jail. He found God. He found God.

979
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 5: And that's why I say the jails do a better

980
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 5: job of helping people find God than the churches seem

981
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 5: to be doing.

982
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 2: Jail.

983
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 5: You go to jail, yeah, you come out with your Bible,

984
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 5: your religious scholar. You know everything there is to know

985
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 5: about the Bible when you go to jail. Let's take

986
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 5: a break, we'll come back. Twelve thirty the buzz thinking

987
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 5: where with you till one o'clock this afternoon and in

988
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 5: the student Yeah, with me none other than Jeff Pastor. Man,

989
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 5: it's been a while.

990
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 2: It's been a while, Lincoln, thanks for having me on.

991
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 2: My friend.

992
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 5: Man, I tell you got quite a story there, and

993
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 5: uh boy, uh, I don't know where to start. Let's

994
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 5: start with first of all, you being convicted going to jail.

995
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 5: That had to be devastating you and your family. And

996
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 5: how are you feeling when you knew you was gonna

997
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 5: have to leave town and go to jail?

998
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 2: Well, you know, you know, first and four month, I've

999
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 2: never been in trouble in my life.

1000
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 13: That was my first time ever interacting with the judicial system,

1001
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 13: and so you know, it was bizarre. I just keep

1002
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 13: using that word bizarre. It's not something that I thought

1003
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 13: would happen to me. I thought I had at this

1004
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 13: point beat all of the odds. That's so common amongst

1005
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 13: you know, young brothers, that that's like myself. Of course,

1006
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 13: you you you know you have anger. You have is

1007
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 13: a lot of anger towards yourself because of the mistakes

1008
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,919
Speaker 13: that you made. Yeah, I said wild if I would

1009
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 13: have made a different decision, it doesn't matter really, you

1010
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 13: know how I got in a situation. I made the mistake, nonetheless,

1011
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 13: you know, and I always I always going just beat

1012
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 13: myself up saying that my intentions was never to be

1013
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 13: in a situation like there was never to be in

1014
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 13: a corrupt situation. But it's it's ultimately what what what

1015
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 13: happened here? So you take responsibility as as they say,

1016
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 13: take your looking and keep on ticking. Yeah, I am

1017
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 13: proud though there was when I when I finally got

1018
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 13: there to Ashland. I was proud that that my paperwork

1019
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 13: was good. I was proud that that I wasn't there

1020
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:35,720
Speaker 13: because I snitched on anyone.

1021
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: I wasn't. I was proud that that that that that

1022
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: that although I found myself in a.

1023
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 13: Situation that I never thought that I would found myself

1024
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,240
Speaker 13: in that that and horrible that I had to separate

1025
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 13: myself from my family. But I was proud that I

1026
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 13: didn't take nobody else down, and I was I was

1027
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 13: thankful for my co defendant and felt very sad because

1028
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 13: as Judge McFarland had said, uh during his centencing, that

1029
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 13: I did, you know, my mistake involved him, and that's

1030
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 13: the thing I take take take ownership for all of that.

1031
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 13: And and his paperwork is good because you know this

1032
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 13: could have you know, turned out different. So these are

1033
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 13: these mix of emotions that's going and it's nobody to

1034
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 13: blame but myself. There's no going back. But but there

1035
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 13: was a wise woman who said, you know what, shame

1036
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 13: is a social construct. Shame is a social construct. I

1037
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 13: had shame for nearly five years. I didn't get sentenced

1038
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 13: until right And.

1039
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 5: What did you do between that time between the time

1040
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 5: that you were convicted and the time they sent you

1041
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 5: to jail.

1042
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 2: Was trying to make it, you know, it was trying

1043
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 2: to make it. You know, my wife was wife was pregnant.

1044
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 13: Yeah, that was probably the most hurtful thing out of

1045
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 13: this process, is my wife and my children and trying

1046
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 13: to get through this process with her being pregnant, and

1047
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 13: then I've never spent any time away from from my

1048
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 13: babies to now having to think about what life is

1049
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 13: going to be like when I was trying to sell

1050
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 13: her home and it was just if you recall, just

1051
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 13: a lot of media attention. Yeah, at first it was

1052
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 13: accusing me of you know, getting a home my home through.

1053
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like that, like the eight hundred thousand dollars.

1054
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 13: Yeah, it was just it was that that never came out,

1055
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 13: that that was a nothing burger, and that that has

1056
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,439
Speaker 13: some some devastating effects on the set of a home.

1057
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 13: Seems to be some sort of at the time, there

1058
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 13: was some this sort of a session like to make

1059
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 13: an example out of black men, and I was, I was,

1060
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 13: I've been vocal about that. It's just like there is

1061
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 13: some sort of threat that that that when you exude

1062
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 13: divine masculinity and you protect the vine femininity, people are

1063
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 13: going to find something to be angry with you about.

1064
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 13: And so I'm dealing with that. I'm getting ready to

1065
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 13: do something I've never done before. But the community that

1066
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 13: still supports and the village, the neighbors, the mother, the siblings,

1067
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 13: the the not the step mus but the mother in

1068
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 13: laws and the ones who raised my wife just surrounded

1069
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 13: their arms around us. That that felt that blinded me

1070
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 13: from the fact that you know that the people that

1071
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 13: I cared so much about, the black community and who.

1072
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,439
Speaker 5: What did your wife say to you? You know, when

1073
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 5: you were getting ready to go off, and what did

1074
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 5: you say to her? I know that had to be tough.

1075
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 5: Oh no, it's just writing down to ashen was.

1076
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 13: Probably It's the only way I can explain it is

1077
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 13: that that's the closest to emotional death that one can have.

1078
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 13: I mean, you you're you're you're talking about your first

1079
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 13: mistake in life and you already going to prison. Yeah,

1080
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 13: you know what I mean, It's bizarre, not even and

1081
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 13: and and the thing is, I wasn't even aware, you know,

1082
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 13: I'm so naive and as they would call it, unsophisticated

1083
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 13: that I'm over here talking to what turned out to

1084
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 13: be federal agents.

1085
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1086
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 13: I'm not concerned about what you're talking about. You know,

1087
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 13: as my former lawyer said, I'm planning the player. Yeah, yeah,

1088
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 13: you know what I mean. I'm thinking to myself, like,

1089
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 13: you're not about to get me in trouble. But I underestimated,

1090
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,479
Speaker 13: right the power of the federal judiciary. It wasn't because

1091
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 13: of eric as anything like that. It's just saying that

1092
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 13: from my brand of politics, I believe in limited government.

1093
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 13: So it's just like, I don't even like the whole

1094
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 13: thing decriminalized in marijuana was an act of Number one,

1095
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 13: you're licking my folks up, working class white folks, working

1096
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 13: class black folks. So these are the things that I'm

1097
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 13: putting into practice. So I'm definitely not going to have

1098
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 13: respect for Big Brother. And I probably should have. I

1099
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 13: ain't gonna say probably should have, but there should have

1100
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 13: been a healthy respect.

1101
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 2: Well, and you know, you didn't know who they were,

1102
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 2: just like PG.

1103
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 5: I mean, they were having drinks with him and you know,

1104
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 5: everything like that, and he had no idea they were

1105
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 5: a FBI.

1106
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 13: Well, well, you know, I also want folks to understand

1107
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 13: there's a difference between taking responsibility because you made a

1108
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 13: mistake and that's what I'm doing.

1109
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 2: But intended something totally different. My intentions was never to

1110
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: be corrupt. That I didn't.

1111
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 13: I didn't go and go to these people and say, hey,

1112
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 13: I lost my job, so I want you to give

1113
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 13: me X number of dollars. That's that's not how this works.

1114
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 13: They set up and the federal government can do so.

1115
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 13: They set up a trap or sting or whatever you

1116
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 13: call it. And I should have again made more Second,

1117
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 13: I should have listened to I should have followed my

1118
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 13: lawyers directive to the t. And I say that when

1119
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 13: I go back and say, well, a couple lawyers, you

1120
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 13: know what I mean?

1121
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 5: I think now that you really want these people to

1122
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 5: put you on the payroll and all that, it was

1123
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 5: all that stuff true.

1124
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 2: Well, see that you wanted to, you know, get a

1125
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 2: check every mine.

1126
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 13: But see the thing is it was I was when

1127
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:45,919
Speaker 13: they first approached me, they said that they were hiring me. Okay, okay,

1128
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 13: so I'm glad that you asked m because I want

1129
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 13: to be very careful because you can't get into things

1130
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 13: that are protected by the judge.

1131
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 2: But that's public information. I thought I was going to

1132
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 2: I thought I was getting hired.

1133
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 5: So when you're reading and you can't work another job

1134
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 5: on city counsel and I had lost my job.

1135
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 13: So when you're looking at the indictment, of course, you

1136
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 13: know the government, it makes their their their point and

1137
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 13: that sort of thing. Well, you're looking at the diamond.

1138
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 13: You said to yourself like it literally, what the hell?

1139
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 13: And then now you're putting yourself in this way again,

1140
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 13: this is where the mistake was it. Now you put

1141
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 13: yourself in a situation where the federal government, as I learned,

1142
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 13: is extraordinarily powerful and they are punitive, right, I mean

1143
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 13: they're going to they're going to make y'all. Was facing

1144
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 13: seven to eight years had I went to trial and loss,

1145
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 13: you know, and and and that that's jarring to say that, hey,

1146
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 13: you you know, you the ninety nine percent or whatever

1147
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 13: the astronomical number is, you're going to lose, you know,

1148
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 13: so you can going back to it, that fear and

1149
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 13: all of this working like I didn't do it.

1150
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 2: I didn't do it.

1151
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 13: As the lawyer say, you know, now you have discovery,

1152
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 13: but you can't share it because you'll go you'll go

1153
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 13: to jail for that. And it's like, hey, but this

1154
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 13: is my sad story. The old lawyer said. We don't

1155
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 13: dispute the facts. We just the truth, and that's the truth.

1156
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 13: Because it's like, I'm thinking one thing again, going back

1157
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 13: in HINDSIGHTE go back to what you lawyer said, across

1158
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 13: your teas and got your eyes.

1159
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.

1160
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 13: Because if I'm going to look for a job, I

1161
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 13: guess that puts you in a very vulnerable situation because

1162
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 13: I don't think people understand that people who truly love

1163
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 13: their wife and children, you feel, I'm saying, will stop

1164
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 13: at nothing to make sure that these that your babies

1165
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 13: are not gonna miss out on, you know, meals and

1166
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 13: stuff like that. And looking back in hindsight, that was

1167
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 13: probably anxiety talking because it's like, well, let me just

1168
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 13: take this hit in the media again. Let me just

1169
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 13: sell this house right now. I've already been in there

1170
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 13: for a year. Let me let me, let me, let

1171
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 13: me do that. And so this is why I say

1172
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 13: it's a mistake. But my intent was never ever to

1173
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 13: be corrupt. So when they say, well, why did you

1174
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 13: take the pleae that, well, for several reasons. Well, because

1175
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 13: I made the mistake, I take full responsibility. It still

1176
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 13: doesn't say that my intention was to be corrupt. How

1177
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 13: how important was it to see a friend? And once

1178
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 13: you went into jail and you saw PG there, Well

1179
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 13: I had more than one friend there, I will say that,

1180
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 13: But because we live here in Cincinnati, I think the

1181
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 13: most popular friend, yeah, would be PG. Because my co

1182
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 13: defendant was was what we called Maselli, you know what

1183
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 13: I mean. So and before that, my childhood friend was

1184
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 13: also there, and a lot of people from Cincinnati there.

1185
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 13: And let me say this, thank God, thank god that

1186
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 13: I was no snitch, because that's a thing down there.

1187
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 13: You go down there and you call yourself. Now it's

1188
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 13: a camp. So it's not as lows, mediums and highs.

1189
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 13: I don't want to miss you know, you know, I

1190
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 13: just don't want to miss inform. You go down there

1191
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 13: and you got a reputation that they know you snitched

1192
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 13: on somebody. Yes, And what's interesting, Lincoln just put a

1193
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 13: little paper clip right here. What's interesting is how comfortable,

1194
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 13: how comfortable some of these folks right now. And I

1195
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 13: can't say it because you know, again it's part of whatever.

1196
01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 13: But I'll just say it this way, that that is

1197
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 13: a it was a shock to me that people that

1198
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 13: I looked up to in this community have made careers

1199
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 13: out of out of this. And it's not even ones

1200
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 13: that was. But it's a shock to me that that

1201
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 13: that that that folks get themselves jammed up and then

1202
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 13: they go help someone else jam you up so that

1203
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 13: they can whatever.

1204
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 2: And it's and it's a lot of them that it's

1205
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 2: like that.

1206
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 5: And you see that down there, and you know, and

1207
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 5: you know who they are right now, and they're comfortable

1208
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 5: out there.

1209
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 9: You know.

1210
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 2: I make this joke.

1211
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 13: I say, before people start criticizing these days here in

1212
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 13: the city of Cincinnati, after those those wonderful brothers down

1213
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 13: there Ashland, I think people should start showing their paperwork

1214
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 13: before they start wanting to open their mouth.

1215
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 2: Start to show your paperwork.

1216
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 13: You understand what I'm saying, because because I don't know

1217
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 13: if you saw the movie of brother Fred Hampton and

1218
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 13: when it came out that somebody that was close to

1219
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 13: him did what he did to him, I mean, he

1220
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 13: was toxic in the community. In our community today, they're

1221
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 13: welcomed and the car is at Ashland. The carnage is

1222
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:05,959
Speaker 13: at the lows. It's carnage is at the mediums where

1223
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 13: these folks are doing these sort of things right, And

1224
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 13: it's still my mistake because had I been aware, had

1225
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 13: I been so gung ho as they say, That's why

1226
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 13: I say full responsibilities five years ago, right, So when

1227
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 13: it was seen, when I see a friend like PG,

1228
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 13: it was comforting, what was extraordinarily comforting. And I have

1229
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 13: no problems of saying that. You know, I been very

1230
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 13: open about my spiritual journey and I'm one of those

1231
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 13: people that you're still on the journey, you know, Land people.

1232
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 2: People want to know if you steal polyamorous. Polyamorous is

1233
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 2: not a spiritual journey. But I know, I know, but

1234
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 2: that that made me think of it, though.

1235
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 7: But you know you don't.

1236
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 13: I mean, you made the headlines about that you don't choose,

1237
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 13: you don't choose. Did you wake up one more than

1238
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 13: they choose to be heterosexual?

1239
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 1: No?

1240
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 13: Yeah, I didn't more than that choose to be hetero sexual.

1241
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 13: That's just how I was more. But but I always

1242
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 13: struggled with this this idea of being monogamous, you know

1243
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 13: what I mean. Not that I've actually practiced polyamory, but

1244
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 13: that is who I am. That's how I am oriented.

1245
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 13: And of course a lot of people made a lot

1246
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 13: of jokes about that or whatever the case would be,

1247
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 13: because we tend to be stuck in this idea, the

1248
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 13: social construct that a black dude, you feel, I'm saying,

1249
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 13: since we're on black radio, black dude has.

1250
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 2: To be one thing. Yeah, you know what I mean,

1251
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 2: Black dude, bet not do ballet.

1252
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 13: A black dude bet not like the arts, or a

1253
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 13: black dude better not be masculine or whatever they have

1254
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 13: all these weird things. Black dude definitely better not be

1255
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 13: polyamorous and want to create more black babies.

1256
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 5: And what does his wife say about that? You know,

1257
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 5: I have six I have I have beautiful children by

1258
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 5: my wife.

1259
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 13: But the point I'm trying to make is that PG,

1260
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 13: Let's let's face it, there is stereotypically there was expected

1261
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 13: I'm expected to be there. Yeah, I mean, I even

1262
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 13: think that the time that they picked me up, there

1263
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 13: were some black radio personalities who already wrote me off.

1264
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 2: He guilty, he guilty, he guilty, whether the facts were there.

1265
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 2: You know they had the paper, had all this stuff.

1266
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 5: Was there, diamonds there for everybody, and everybody said you

1267
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:04,439
Speaker 5: he even made any argument was made the black dude

1268
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 5: was guilty. Yes, let me take a break and then

1269
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 5: we'll come back with more. Jeff Pastor is my guest,

1270
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 5: and boy has he had a journey. And we want

1271
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 5: to talk about you finding God, finding God when you

1272
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 5: were in prison. I want to talk about that too.

1273
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 5: Let's take a quick break. We'll come back twelve thirty

1274
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 5: The Buzz of Cincinnati, your talk station, Lincoln, We're with you.

1275
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 5: And we've got Marvin Buds coming up a little bit

1276
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 5: later on and he's gonna talk about the West End

1277
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 5: gallat that's taking place. It's coming Saturday at TQL Stadium. Yes,

1278
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 5: so he'll be there in here to talk about that.

1279
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 5: Jeff Pastor's here, and I guess PG was teaching Bible

1280
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 5: study down there or something, you know, and he introduced

1281
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 5: you to all this and you you found yourself down there.

1282
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 13: I guess, well, I wouldn't sound find myself at Bible study.

1283
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 13: I would say that I found a spiritual practice that

1284
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 13: works for me. Happy to say that it's God. But

1285
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 13: the reason why I say he helped was because let's

1286
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 13: face it, PG comes from a certain class. He's not

1287
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 13: expected to be there. I mean, for me, after at

1288
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 13: thirty six, I'm thinking like, oh, I don't beat it.

1289
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 13: I don't beat the stereotype, stereotypical placement, you know. And

1290
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 13: so to see how he responds when he's down there

1291
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 13: at Ashland was encouraging.

1292
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 3: Now.

1293
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 13: I know people may say, oh, yeah, you know, but

1294
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 13: when you're when you're in prison at a camp I

1295
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 13: called the superhero camp, I mean, you're stripped of all

1296
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 13: of your dignity, You're stripped of all of who you are.

1297
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 13: Nobody gives two rats tales about you being PG or

1298
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 13: Jen for a council member and stuff like that. And

1299
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 13: that meant a lot to me because you really get

1300
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 13: to see a person. Everybody has a whole lot of hope,

1301
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 13: everybody has a whole lot of dreams and that sort

1302
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 13: of thing. And it was also these these these young brothers,

1303
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 13: a twenty one year old that was down there, to

1304
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 13: twenty one year olds that are down and I said,

1305
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 13: I will always when I got out, would speak for them.

1306
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 13: They shouldn't have been down there. And I was seeing

1307
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 13: how he was helping these people that was coming and

1308
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 13: talking to him. He's walking, he's running, and he put

1309
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 13: himself deep into his spiritual practice, which was which was

1310
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 13: Christianity and lead Bible studies and preaching and all them things.

1311
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 13: Then you got a man, white man, thirty year prison

1312
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 13: sentence because he got five years for every time that

1313
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 13: he made transactions with the gun on his hip, but

1314
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 13: never discharged it, never brandished it.

1315
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 2: Thirty years he had walked down ten and all these

1316
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 2: other things.

1317
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,759
Speaker 13: You had another black brother, old brother, he was almost

1318
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 13: sixty eight, seventy years old. He got out on relief

1319
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 13: and he's back down there. So you see these people,

1320
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 13: and you see this person from this socioeconomic class who

1321
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 13: is in a weird way cheerful. Now he has his

1322
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 13: own issues and he's going on home. You don't know,

1323
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 13: some bad news come from my wife and you on

1324
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 13: a color the phone on the wall, and you're talking

1325
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 13: on the phone and she's giving you bad news and

1326
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 13: I break down and cry, and he's there and he's

1327
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 13: helping you. All these other things, so I don't all

1328
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 13: that political issues. A guy probably never was seen as

1329
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 13: you know, there was ever like an outright competition between

1330
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 13: me and PG or whatever. Then whatever political stuff was done,

1331
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 13: then that that stuff don't matter when you're down there.

1332
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,600
Speaker 13: And what I what I said was is that it

1333
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 13: began that redemptive process because you know, I had my

1334
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 13: think and and it stemmed.

1335
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 2: From just the the enormity of work that that I

1336
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 2: was seeing on city council.

1337
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 13: I mean, I'm I'm frustrated with Democrats, I'm frustrated, frustrated

1338
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 13: with Republicans. I'm frustrated with the loudmouse in the city

1339
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 13: who say they want to do something. So if you

1340
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 13: recall I had a special media on the Neighborhood Council

1341
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 13: and I was talking about deconcentrated poverty. I was saying

1342
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 13: in segregation because that was born out of why are

1343
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,719
Speaker 13: all our people in the West End concentrated to poverty?

1344
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 13: English Woods waiting terrorists? So what there's something we could do.

1345
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:46,640
Speaker 13: We're not supposed to be.

1346
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 2: Doing that, you know.

1347
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 13: And I've learned then from other journalists that there's a

1348
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 13: lawsuit that's coming out that is trying to address the thing.

1349
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 2: These are the things that I was talking about before

1350
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:55,600
Speaker 2: all of this.

1351
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 13: Right, you see all these things, you get and it

1352
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 13: has this the pressing effect you get the worst the name.

1353
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,879
Speaker 13: So in a way, you know, my wife was experiencing

1354
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 13: what I wasn't the best person. So in a way,

1355
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:16,600
Speaker 13: this creative destruction was was what I would say, divinely orchestrated.

1356
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 13: Say hey, man, you can't you can't take that out

1357
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,719
Speaker 13: on this God force that you feel this way because.

1358
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 2: I'm angry at God.

1359
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 13: Like why when I read in Riches's Rothstein's work The

1360
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 13: Color of Law, and they showed the map, why are

1361
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,919
Speaker 13: we still in this same predicament?

1362
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 2: Just a little bit improvement over the round? It was

1363
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 2: just a little bit improvement. Why is the West? Why

1364
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 2: are why? What is going on?

1365
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 13: And so then you I begin to talk about us

1366
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 13: by language began to change poor white folks, poor white,

1367
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 13: poor black folks, working class white folks, working classes black folks.

1368
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 13: And I'm saying this about class, about class, the hair

1369
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 13: with Republican and Democrat, because all the rich people think

1370
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 13: the same you felt. I'm saying, I'm not saying that's

1371
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 13: a bad thing, because I think incentivizing through capitalism is

1372
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 13: a thing to address just my own ideology.

1373
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 2: Some of the eels, but poverty is driving It's.

1374
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 13: One of the reasons why I got a call from

1375
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 13: one of my dearest closest friend and I'll wait till

1376
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:09,560
Speaker 13: she gives me the permission to say it, but she

1377
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 13: has been so extraordinarily good to me and my wife.

1378
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 13: She had called me and she said, Jeff explained to

1379
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:18,639
Speaker 13: the people, what did you mean that if I didn't

1380
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 13: go to prison?

1381
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 2: That wasn't thank you?

1382
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 13: Because the whole quote was this, if you don't address poverty,

1383
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 13: you're going to keep crime.

1384
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 10: Now.

1385
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 2: I was the one that said no curfews when we

1386
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 2: was having the uprise.

1387
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 13: I was the one that said no curfeus when we

1388
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 13: was having the Corona and all these other things. I

1389
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,600
Speaker 13: just don't think that some government should be doing You

1390
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 13: feel what I'm saying. But as I'm saying that, and

1391
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 13: I'm saying that, you can't solve everything with the police, right,

1392
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 13: you have to address by nineties plus percent of low

1393
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 13: income housing is concentrated in the West End, while low

1394
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 13: income come housing is.

1395
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 2: Concentrating on the West Side.

1396
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 13: Guess what the grandmother at bond Hill and the white

1397
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 13: lady and had Park think the same. They want to

1398
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:03,640
Speaker 13: I'm outside their homes and see good. Now, why is

1399
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 13: development always? Now you saying all this stuff. But nobody

1400
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 13: was listening. No, nobody was listening.

1401
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 2: So to me, Lincoln, hey get the red flag. Yeah,

1402
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 2: he afked up.

1403
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 13: He said what he's supposed to say. We're gonna running

1404
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 13: driveway or run no money, what it cans to be.

1405
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,640
Speaker 13: He made a mistake. You know, that's what they do

1406
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 13: to folks that look like me. Independent thinker and all

1407
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 13: these other things. Were gonna make it hammer home. But

1408
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 13: everybody else you run to the back. Never mind what

1409
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 13: he's talking about. Let's just focus all a mistake. Now,

1410
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 13: let me ask you this question. Detroit Red made a mistake.

1411
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,679
Speaker 13: Paul of Tarsus made a mistake. You understand what I'm saying.

1412
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 13: Mohammed made a mistake. Every great leader that you count

1413
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 13: as a great leader made mistakes. And I would say

1414
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,640
Speaker 13: Lincoln that I'm more closer to the greater leader that

1415
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 13: I wanted to be before those depressive things, because I

1416
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 13: couldn't get what I want to done that I've ever

1417
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 13: been before.

1418
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 2: And so PG And when he left jail, you cried,

1419
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,560
Speaker 2: you you were were you crying for him? Believe me?

1420
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 2: I mean you cried losing your friend.

1421
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 13: When I say it was there were two pivotal moments

1422
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 13: when by co defendant left, when PG left and when

1423
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 13: I left. Because you know, whether you like it or not,

1424
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:18,799
Speaker 13: you feel I'm saying, God gives us all gifts, giftings

1425
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 13: you feel I'm saying, and they come without repentance, just

1426
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 13: to you know, have a master's of divinity. Just a

1427
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 13: quick history lesson when when God told Saul the King

1428
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 13: to go destroy everybody's Old Testament and he didn't do

1429
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 13: what he's supposed to do. Nathan and another prophet comes

1430
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 13: right when Nathan, another prophet comes. They come and pick

1431
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 13: up saw and say, hey, you know you asked up.

1432
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 13: I'm paraphrasing, or whatever the case will be. The prophets

1433
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 13: beginning to prophesy, and hey, beginning a prophesy you feel

1434
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 13: I'm saying because they say, hey, these gifts don't cover

1435
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 13: our pens and I'm using the thing. But it was

1436
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 13: just like this this spirit that they created around him saying, hey,

1437
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 13: you still minds your gift comes with our repentance. And

1438
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 13: so even though that I'm fighting against this, this spiritual

1439
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 13: thing gets out of because everything is spiritual. What you

1440
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 13: do in politics and all these other things. You down

1441
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 13: there and guess what you you you seeing somebody worse

1442
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 13: off than you. How can you be sad and I'm

1443
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 13: doing twenty How can you be sad? And he lives

1444
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 13: here in Cincinnati, really good brother and how perbission to

1445
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:12,640
Speaker 13: say his name, but you feel he was a real

1446
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 13: good brother.

1447
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 2: He said, I wish I had the mother that you had.

1448
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 2: I wish I had the wife that you had.

1449
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 13: Because these brothers are not getting stuff on their books.

1450
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 13: And so it became, like I said to earlier today,

1451
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 13: it became like this passion. It's almost like you needed

1452
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 13: to be like Paul of Tartan's knocked off your perverbal ass,

1453
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 13: blinded for five years, sent to prison, and all these

1454
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 13: other things.

1455
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 2: But guess what, that's when I went to prison.

1456
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 13: That's when my chains broke and my dungeon ship because

1457
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 13: you began to see all of the shi t that

1458
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 13: you was talking about.

1459
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:49,719
Speaker 2: You're saying, I'm seeing the results.

1460
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 13: So when people say, when I tell the people, hey,

1461
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 13: this is when you addressed poverty, No abouty gives excuse

1462
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 13: my French them about some of the stuff that these

1463
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 13: people talk about.

1464
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 2: They want to feed their family.

1465
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 13: And this is the language of the working class blacks

1466
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 13: and the working class wife that's so missed. If you recall,

1467
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 13: I had told one of my colleagues, you cannot talk

1468
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,640
Speaker 13: to me if you haven't eaten spam. What I was

1469
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 13: saying is is that there's a language that working class

1470
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:17,679
Speaker 13: people speak.

1471
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,680
Speaker 5: That is I've sent from a public discourse today. Let

1472
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:23,719
Speaker 5: me take a break and then we'll come back. Jeff

1473
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 5: Pastor is my guest. He's out and he's talking twelve

1474
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 5: thirty the buzz. No, she was back here waiting on you.

1475
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 2: Then you have a way. You're in jail when your

1476
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 2: baby was born.

1477
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 13: No, no, no, I I was out, he was six months.

1478
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 13: But how important was it to know she was back

1479
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 13: here waiting That that get you through? Oh yes, absolutely,

1480
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 13: just because you know, wanting to be be there for her.

1481
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 13: If never, We've never been separated, with the exception of

1482
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 13: when I did the military right Happy Veterans Day, and

1483
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 13: I appreciate it.

1484
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 2: So it was there.

1485
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 13: But every most men, I should say, I don't really

1486
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 13: speak for me me. You know, I like being with

1487
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 13: my family, you know what I mean, even if it's

1488
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,560
Speaker 13: you know, just the mundane, the picking up. I was

1489
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 13: so encouraged though, by the family that surrounded themselves around

1490
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 13: my wife I wanted to go back to something you said,

1491
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 13: because I don't think.

1492
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 2: I made the point clear.

1493
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,560
Speaker 13: What I was saying was is that concentrating all of

1494
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 13: your efforts on reducing poverty is how you reduce crime.

1495
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 13: And had I not made the mistake that I made,

1496
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 13: I am confident that things that are happening today wouldn't happen.

1497
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That was the entire That was

1498
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 2: the entire of my message.

1499
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 13: And in addition, right, when you think about twenty eighteen,

1500
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 13: I said twenty seventeen on the interview, But when you

1501
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 13: think about twenty eighteen, I mean, you had some really

1502
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 13: dynamic situations going on. You had a Democrat council right

1503
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 13: that was split ideologically. You had conservatives, you had liberal

1504
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:58,680
Speaker 13: that was good, you had me the liberty, the Republican,

1505
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 13: but with the classical liberal, the liberty terry, who hey,

1506
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 13: we gotta, we gotta None of it makes a difference.

1507
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 2: But when you have.

1508
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 13: When you have sorry about that, when you have the

1509
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 13: the tension, the compromise is necessary. But when you have

1510
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:15,719
Speaker 13: everybody pulling from the same pool, it kind of creates

1511
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:17,679
Speaker 13: this echo chamber that you see that you're that you're

1512
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 13: seeing today. I mean, everybody is pulling all nine plus

1513
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 13: the mayor is pulling from the same pool. Now I'm

1514
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 13: not saying that it has to be the same characters, y,

1515
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 13: but I'm saying that there has to be ideological differences

1516
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 13: so that our people can be served well. And so

1517
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:38,520
Speaker 13: my good friend, my dear sister asked me to, you know, elucidate,

1518
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 13: and I wanted to make sure that was very clear.

1519
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 13: That's what I meant is because you can focus on

1520
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 13: my mistake, you can call me what you want, right,

1521
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 13: you can focus on the ashes. Here are the fruits

1522
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 13: of my labor. I mean, let's be clear, Lincoln, there

1523
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 13: were loud mouths who was so against the FC Cincinnati stadium. Yeah,

1524
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 13: now you got contracts? Yeah, there were there was so

1525
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 13: many people. What what Republican demer criminalized in marijuana? Right

1526
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 13: from from me? Right from from me?

1527
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:11,680
Speaker 2: Decriminalizing marijuana. So you you enjoying the.

1528
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 13: Fruits because who should be locked up for a plant?

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Speaker 13: This has nothing to do with Republican or difficult. This

1530
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:18,799
Speaker 13: has everything to do with the voice of the report.

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01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 13: So when when people say those things, I say, hey,

1532
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 13: you're right, my mistakes is what makes me a leader.

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01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 2: My shadows is what makes me who I am.

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01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:27,679
Speaker 13: I don't run for those no more because that'll that'll

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01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 13: get me back into a mental, emotional and spiritual situation where.

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01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 6: I was in.

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01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 2: Now when you look back at it, can you have

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01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 2: what six children? Okay? Six?

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01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 5: Well that had to be tough to for your wife

1540
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 5: to hold that down while you absolute six kids, and

1541
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 5: when you came back, was anything different? I mean that

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01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 5: the kids that I mean, what was it the same

1543
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 5: as before you left? They were they were better, They

1544
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 5: were better, they were better. My wife is better. And

1545
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 5: I tell people all the same. I think it was

1546
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 5: you know, as within, so without, as above, so below.

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01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 5: It's all divinely orchestrated, right, because when when you think

1548
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 5: about it, nobody, when you're jilted like that, you say,

1549
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 5: I never want to go back there.

1550
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:05,679
Speaker 13: So what are you gonna do? You're gonna prove yourself.

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01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 13: So I tried to demonstrate that when I first got out.

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01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 13: One of my first posts with telling people how obsessed

1553
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 13: I was to come back. These folks are putting money.

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01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 2: On your books.

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01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:15,640
Speaker 13: You got these brothers who are doing something eer they

1556
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 13: getting up and working out every day, right, these brothers

1557
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 13: are praying they're reading, they're doing all these other things.

1558
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 13: I said, you know what, there is no way that

1559
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 13: these investments, these books that are being saying. And it

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01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:29,600
Speaker 13: was people from Cincinnati who was writing letters. It just

1561
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 13: made me cry, and I said, for them, for them,

1562
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 13: the hell with what people think about you. And that

1563
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,640
Speaker 13: was the difference between that past version of myself and

1564
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 13: this version myself. I gave too much of these you know,

1565
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 13: people was trying to get you down so they can

1566
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 13: step in your place. So they want you to come

1567
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 13: down and help them so they could pull you down.

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01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 13: This new version doesn't give it damn about what you think.

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01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 2: You have to see.

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01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 13: You have to you feeling when you go out to

1571
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 13: eat outside and you can eat outside on your patio,

1572
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 13: you feel what I'm saying. That was legislation that I ordinate,

1573
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 13: ordinances that I put it in place. You feel what

1574
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 13: I'm saying. So so you can focus on the mistakes.

1575
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 13: I mean, I think that's that's that's your right. You

1576
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 13: feel I'm saying. I would even say it might even

1577
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 13: be low energy. That mistake was five years ago.

1578
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.

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01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 13: You're you're feeling the fruits though every time you go

1580
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 13: the community benefits agreement, whether you agree with it or not.

1581
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 13: When the riots, what's happening and people say, there's no

1582
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 13: way that white men and black men were telling fourteen

1583
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:25,759
Speaker 13: to fifty year old kids who went to the school

1584
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 13: that I used to teach at, right, was telling people

1585
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 13: to throw rocks at the cops. They were but were

1586
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 13: nobody there. But I'm there for our people. And you

1587
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:37,600
Speaker 13: got people armchair quarterbacks. Oh heat this other. Now I

1588
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 13: would say this, you know now looking back in hindsight,

1589
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 13: well let's check paperwork. You got a lot to say.

1590
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 13: Let's check some paperwork. Let's make sure that you're really

1591
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 13: for the people. You understand what I'm.

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01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 2: Saying, So you plan on running again and all this stuff?

1593
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 2: He three two three one three two.

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01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,639
Speaker 13: I applied for a pardon absolutely, And as I say,

1595
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 13: you know, a pardon is not because I'm a title

1596
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 13: to It is because everybody deserves mercy.

1597
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 2: Now, what do you think about Donald Trump? Would you vote?

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01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 6: What?

1599
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 2: You vote for him?

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Speaker 13: You know, you know the thing with Donald Trump is

1601
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 13: that I share a lot of similarities with him. You know,

1602
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 13: he was he was indicted, you know, he was convicted

1603
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 13: and all of these other things, and he ran some

1604
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 13: people told me to still run when I when I

1605
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 13: got caught up, or whatever the case would be. So

1606
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 13: if nothing else, I appreciate his courage, you know what

1607
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 13: I mean. That might not play well what it comes

1608
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:28,679
Speaker 13: to be, but guess what, we're authentic. We're being authentic,

1609
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 13: We're being genuine. So I have no problems with saying that.

1610
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:34,640
Speaker 13: And ultimately Donald Trump is the one that our petitionate for.

1611
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 13: So I like a person who their flaws are. For

1612
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 13: everybody to see you what your what's your witnes see

1613
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 13: now in America is and of course you know people say, well,

1614
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 13: black man can't do that. You winn to see all

1615
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 13: of the sanitization that comes with being a politician.

1616
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 2: Take it off. We want to see who you are.

1617
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 13: You got a bankruptcy, you cheat on your wife, you're polyamorous,

1618
01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 13: you all these other things. These are says, wait, how

1619
01:23:58,560 --> 01:23:59,680
Speaker 13: did you come back? And all the other things. But

1620
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 13: what are you doing for the people? I remember when

1621
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 13: I was young, the people that I respected coming up,

1622
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 13: they said, hey, votual interest And I said, what do

1623
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:08,560
Speaker 13: it means? They said, you might, you might have a

1624
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 13: democratic council. But this Republican is really trying to put

1625
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 13: money your pockets or this libertarian.

1626
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 2: Or it is independent?

1627
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:14,600
Speaker 10: Is what?

1628
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,600
Speaker 13: And I always I always think about like that. So

1629
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 13: when it comes to Donald Trump, I don't like to

1630
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 13: get it to the national conversation. I just like to

1631
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 13: find where their similarities.

1632
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 2: And does your wife is she okay with you running again?

1633
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be before we're talking about passion.

1634
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 13: We're talking about a partner for passion and a parton

1635
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 13: for purpose, and a part because everybody deserves mercy, including myself.

1636
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 13: Yeah you might see this black face with this with

1637
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 13: this accent or whatever it came, will be, But even

1638
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 13: he and even you deserve mercy, you feel, I'm saying,

1639
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 13: and quite.

1640
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 2: Frankly, I mean Rod Blagloivich.

1641
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 13: Now what I want to say on this record is

1642
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 13: that do you remember the judge out in Pennsylvania that

1643
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 13: was locking kids up, the white kids up, and the

1644
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 13: black kids up, the working class kids up. He got

1645
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 13: a party, nobody better than I. But now the man says, hey,

1646
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 13: accept my responsibility. I'm walking in redemption. And I'm simply saying, hey,

1647
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 13: I too want to put my name in the hat

1648
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 13: for mercy or whatever because will be And guess what,

1649
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 13: because of how it's presented or what it looks like.

1650
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 13: Guess what, No, my god, absolutely not.

1651
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 5: That that's that's that's wild to me. All right, Hey, Jeff,

1652
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 5: it's been great. We got to get you back again.

1653
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 5: Let us know what's going on. And man, thank you

1654
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 5: for coming on and we appreciate you. Hav and so

1655
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 5: good luck you and your lovely wife. Good luck to

1656
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:34,600
Speaker 5: both of you.

1657
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1658
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 5: The kids, Yeah, you got a kid that went to

1659
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:41,679
Speaker 5: the homecoming dance and all that stuff. Many growing up, yeah,

1660
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 5: they growing up.

1661
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 5: And my youngest is two, man, and you look, I

1663
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 5: can have I can have twin girls. Oh boy, you

1664
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 5: try trying again. Huh what did just what she said

1665
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 5: about somebody? All right, thank you, right now, let's take

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Speaker 5: a break for News twelve thirty The Buzz