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Speaker 2: The weekend is upon us, and this is I just

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Speaker 2: National Football League season. And as I always say, you

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Speaker 2: it is upon us, and it will be the Colts

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Speaker 2: and it just looks cleaner. The air just looks cleaner

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Speaker 2: no pumpkins spice chi tea today, Jake, Okay, well you

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Speaker 2: got the Java House there. You know, we've got high

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Speaker 2: spoiled by this routine. We became spoiled by this routine

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Speaker 2: it is a pleasure to see you once again. Welcome

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Speaker 4: Yes, of course I do three forty three point one

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Speaker 4: Right, Oh, absolutely not. When you I've broughtten friends out before,

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Speaker 4: You can't see that anywhere else. It is the most

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Speaker 2: And you know the thing that's funny to me. You

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Speaker 2: And so you get involved in the sport theoretically at

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Speaker 4: I do a lot physical training just you know, prepping

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Speaker 2: What other sports, by the way, do you watch or follow.

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Speaker 2: I realized that over the course of the summer, you're

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Speaker 2: But but what other sports do you get a chance

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Speaker 4: I get to go because of being sponsored by Monster.

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Speaker 4: to go to. I usually go once or twice a year. PBR,

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Speaker 4: Professional Ball Writers, Yes, professional bull Riding, Supercross. My brother

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Speaker 2: Your brother in law, by the way, for those that

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Speaker 2: you know, Graham. I think probably at least once a weekend.

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Speaker 2: Here's from people about the speeds that you're setting elsewhere? Right,

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, tonight would be the night we run late. We

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Speaker 4: unveiling a specialty car this evening tonight that Jack will

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Speaker 4: be running in. So a lot around, you know, a

433
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Speaker 4: lot going on this weekend. But glad to have him

434
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Speaker 4: out here. This is where he needs to be. It's

435
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Speaker 4: it's after his reclass season. It was really difficult and

436
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Speaker 4: it took him. He put in the hours, he put

437
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Speaker 4: in the work in physical therapy, you know, to get

438
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Speaker 4: back to being at the racetrack with all his teams.

439
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 4: And it's crazy because I think everything happens for a reason.

440
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 4: And his first win back last season was Las Vegas

441
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 4: and it was my first win in two years. I

442
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,679
Speaker 4: doubled up with Austin Prock and he was standing there

443
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Speaker 4: on the start line for that so very special event.

444
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Speaker 6: You know.

445
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Speaker 2: It's it means so much to him, but yet he

446
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,159
Speaker 2: means so much to I think, not just NHR, but

447
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 2: racing in general, American sport in general. Right, And it

448
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 2: has been fascinating to watch, just in terms of for

449
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Speaker 2: you and your sisters and just the family and the

450
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:31,360
Speaker 2: business in general. The I guess almost the responsibility of

451
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Speaker 2: making him proud. And I know that that sounds the

452
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Speaker 2: wrong way because I don't mean that as a as

453
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Speaker 2: a personal internal pressure, but he has that. He's the

454
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Speaker 2: kind of guy John Force that I know. I've told

455
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Speaker 2: you this before, Like I met him one time to

456
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 2: do an interview with him, you know, a billion years ago,

457
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 2: and literally the rest of the day I thought, I

458
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 2: need to do my job the right way here because

459
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 2: this guy expects me to write. He just has this

460
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 2: infectious energy of perfection about and expectation, but not in

461
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Speaker 2: a mean way. It really is something fascinating. But I

462
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 2: just think that that racing in general, in all forms

463
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Speaker 2: of racing, is a better sport when John Force is

464
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Speaker 2: enjoying it.

465
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Speaker 4: Oh, thank you, Yeah, he is. He is quite a personality,

466
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 4: I'll tell you that. And you know, I'm lucky that

467
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 4: when I came into the sport, I had him to

468
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 4: guide me and teach me everything, and teach me not

469
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 4: just about the driving part of the job, but you know,

470
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Speaker 4: the media and the sponsors and and you know, meeting

471
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Speaker 4: with the fans, spending time with the fans. He's taught

472
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Speaker 4: me so much in the sport and ntry drag racing,

473
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Speaker 4: but you can't know ntry drag racing without knowing John Force.

474
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Speaker 2: How often do you get to go by the way

475
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Speaker 2: and see Indy Cars? I mean I realized the schedules,

476
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 2: but you mentioned Graham Ray Hall the schedules oftentimes, you know,

477
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 2: we I worked the broadcast for IndyCars, so we're usually

478
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Speaker 2: at an event at the same time that you guys

479
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Speaker 2: are there. Do you ever get a chance to come

480
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Speaker 2: around it?

481
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Speaker 4: Not this year. I've not made it out this season.

482
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Speaker 4: I don't believe. I usually try to go to you know,

483
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Speaker 4: their indie race Long Beach, but I think it crossed

484
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Speaker 4: over with one of ours, So this year was just

485
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Speaker 4: more difficult. We watched at home on TV, but haven't

486
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Speaker 4: made it out this season.

487
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Speaker 2: Our reach is the best. Southern California is the best. Yeah, listen,

488
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 2: you guys are smart for living in Southern California, right,

489
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 2: I mean nothing wrong with that. We wish you the

490
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Speaker 2: best of lot this week and give me again your

491
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 2: schedule for today. I mean, you go back out and

492
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Speaker 2: you start getting underway. Win.

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Speaker 4: We kick off tonight seven point thirty is funny car

494
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 4: will be out first and top Field will run right

495
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Speaker 4: behind them.

496
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Speaker 2: And so do you do you have any sort of

497
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 2: routine that you have to do before then or is

498
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 2: it just a matter of making sure that you're in

499
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Speaker 2: and you're safe and then you're good to go routine.

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Speaker 4: It's yes, I'm actually very routine, but it's just our

501
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Speaker 4: normal routine that I carry over every we can get

502
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Speaker 4: out there with my team, talk with my crew chief,

503
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Speaker 4: what is our game plan? What is our goal for

504
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Speaker 4: one run?

505
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Speaker 2: Out of time?

506
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Speaker 4: So we focus on tonight's run, what we're aiming for,

507
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Speaker 4: what kind of et we're going to put on the board.

508
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Speaker 4: How many cars are out there, and it's getting warmed up,

509
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Speaker 4: suited up, and then we head up to make our

510
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Speaker 4: first run.

511
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Speaker 2: There is no access like going out to the NHR.

512
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 2: You get a ticket for that. You can walk through.

513
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 2: You can see them, I mean the detail that you

514
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 2: see of every single inch and everything that's getting cleaned

515
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 2: up and ready for the runs, and you can see

516
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 2: all of it. It is as fan friendly as anything

517
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Speaker 2: you're going to get for the US Nationals. Cornwall Quality

518
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 2: tools US Nationals. The Monster Energy Machine of course will

519
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 2: be piloted by Britney Force. Appreciate it as always, best

520
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 2: of luck.

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Speaker 4: All right, thank you very much.

522
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Speaker 2: All Right, when we come back, we've got a little

523
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Speaker 2: football to talk, including one guy with family ties. Speaking

524
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 2: of that, that's a theme today. We should have Alex P.

525
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 2: Keaton here, family ties to Indianapolis when it comes to

526
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Speaker 2: the marquee event in college football of the weekend. We'll

527
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 2: talk to a guy that knows a little about what

528
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Speaker 2: I'm talking about, and we'll do it. On the other side,

529
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Speaker 2: you're listening to a Quarium Company here Friday edition, and

530
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Speaker 2: you're listening to it on the fan. What I just said,

531
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Speaker 2: it's a family ties theme here on the program today,

532
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 2: mostly because I just like talking about shows that had

533
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Speaker 2: their peak forty years ago, probably not unlike this one.

534
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Speaker 2: But as we get set for the weekend, we just

535
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Speaker 2: talked to Britney forst and of course her family connection

536
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Speaker 2: to not only John Force, but her brother in law

537
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Speaker 2: Graham Ray Hall US Nationals this weekend and in college

538
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 2: football everything getting underway this weekend. Last night, a big

539
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 2: win for you, Indy over Marion, Wyoming got a ten

540
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 2: to dohering win over Arkansas or excuse me over Akron

541
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 2: at Akron, which I think counts as a half a win,

542
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 2: still a win, Jake Hey blanked Akron. Who if I'm

543
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 2: not mistaken. When Indiana beat Akron in seven overtimes, Tom

544
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: Allen kicked over two trash cans and carried off a

545
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 2: trophy and people were like, what are we doing here?

546
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: They're like two hundred and eighty fifth in the college football.

547
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Speaker 1: One dude, you know what to do.

548
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 2: That's right, That's exactly what he did. But the big

549
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: win in college football this weekend is going to be

550
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Speaker 2: Ohio State in Texas and Arch Manning with some family

551
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Speaker 2: ties when it comes to Indianapolis, because not only Peyton Manning,

552
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 2: but now everybody and their brother is convinced that the

553
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 2: Colts are going to make the march for arch as

554
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 2: if they're the first team to think of that little riddle.

555
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 2: Joining us now to talk about that and the Cowboys

556
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 2: in the news. He is with the Fort Worthstar Telegram.

557
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 2: He is a return guest of the program. He is

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Speaker 2: Mac Angele. Hello, Mac Jake. It's good to hear your voice, sir.

559
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Speaker 7: How are things in my hometown, Indianapolis, Indiana.

560
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Speaker 2: You know, here's the excitement that I've had in the

561
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Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. You were home, what was it

562
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Speaker 2: two or three weeks ago you were home. I'm not

563
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: supposed to say, that's right. Yeah, And so you and

564
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Speaker 2: I get a bite to eat, and then I don't know,

565
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,239
Speaker 2: probably a week after that, I thought, you know what,

566
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 2: that's kind of a cool place we went. So I

567
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 2: happened to be in the area and I went back

568
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 2: in there a couple of days that. Shannon and I

569
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 2: went in there, and the gal that waited on us says, oh,

570
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Speaker 2: I remember you. And I said, oh, that's very flattering,

571
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Speaker 2: thank you. You know, I do a radio dog and

572
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Speaker 2: pony show here in town. She said, no, I mostly

573
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Speaker 2: remember you because you're your friend. Oh okay, well he

574
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: doesn't live here, so there you go.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that's very nice of you, Jake. When you

576
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 7: get to be my age, you write that stuff down.

577
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Speaker 7: I didn't happen very much.

578
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Speaker 2: She said, and I quote, oh, I don't remember much

579
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Speaker 2: about you, but I remember your friend. Okay. Thanks.

580
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Speaker 7: The problem is like she didn't say what she remembered,

581
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 7: remembered anything. This guy is incredibly good looking.

582
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Speaker 1: At Hansom.

583
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Speaker 2: She remembered that we were the only two people in

584
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 2: the place and they could hear everything we were talking about.

585
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,239
Speaker 2: I think that was it. Yeah, okay, let's begin with

586
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: this Arch may Well. And I want to talk about

587
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: the deal with the Cowboys too, only because I think

588
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: it does have some uh NFL wide and maybe even

589
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 2: cult implications, and I'll get to that, but I want

590
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 2: to start with Arch Manning. There is so much praise

591
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Speaker 2: and expectation. You have covered ut you have been around

592
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Speaker 2: in the times when he has worked his way into rotation.

593
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Speaker 2: But now the keys to the kingdom are his. Will

594
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Speaker 2: he live up to all of the expectation?

595
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Speaker 7: What are your expectations?

596
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 2: I think there are people that believe that he is

597
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Speaker 2: going to be in the same lineage as Peyton or Eli,

598
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: and perhaps even take it a step further.

599
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Speaker 7: I'm going to bet them on I'm going to bet

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Speaker 7: on him. I mean, he's he still hasn't played major

601
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Speaker 7: college football much other than a couple of starts last season,

602
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 7: and they put him in here and there. I'm just

603
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 7: not going to bet against the Manning. I'm just I'm

604
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 7: not so. Yes, I think he.

605
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Speaker 1: Will live up to it.

606
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 7: I think he will win a national championship if he

607
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 7: stays two years. I don't know if he's going to

608
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 7: stay both years or not, but I just I'm not

609
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 7: gonna bet against a Manning, and especially when I got

610
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Speaker 7: to see him play last season in his limited starts

611
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 7: in replace of Quinn Yours, I was like, that guy's

612
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 7: got it and I think he's going to be I

613
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 7: think he's going to be terrific. He reminds me more.

614
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 7: And I realized when I'm gonna say this one, I

615
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 7: saw this guy in video highlights than I did as

616
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 7: opposed to watching Peyton and Eli play live, but physically

617
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 7: watching him play, he reminds me more of his granddad

618
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 7: than Peyton or Eli. And I think he's going to

619
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Speaker 7: be terrific.

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Speaker 2: So you think he has more mobility because you know,

621
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Speaker 2: it's funny, Archie Manning had mobility, but part of that

622
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 2: was because Archie Manning when he was in New Orleans

623
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: had to write, you know what I mean, He had

624
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,959
Speaker 2: to run around for his life. Eli and Peyton had

625
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: probably better protection, but nobody would disguise Peyton as you know,

626
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: a super athlete around the corners. But that said, well,

627
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: they'd design even runs for arch Manning or is that

628
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 2: just an aspect that they used when all hell's breaking loose.

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Speaker 7: No, they've designed plays for him to run and I

630
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 7: don't know if you remember watching the National semi final

631
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 7: game there the Cotton Bowl between Texas and Ohio State.

632
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 7: They brought him in for certain packages and then the

633
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 7: play he got knocked out was a designed run and

634
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 7: he suffered concussion on it. I don't think it was

635
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 7: a bad one, but it was enough of one that

636
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 7: later in the game, when they had it inside the ten,

637
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 7: ut had it inside the ten, they didn't bring him in,

638
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 7: which was a sign that something was off. And I

639
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 7: know because it was the last game of the season,

640
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 7: I don't think they ever came out and officially said

641
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 7: he had a concussion. But if you watch the hit

642
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 7: that he sustained, it was a design run. He executed

643
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 7: it fine. It was just one of those random football

644
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 7: plays that happened, and so they will design already had.

645
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 7: I mean, he can run. And you know, everything I'd

646
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 7: ever heard about the Manning family, and I realize a

647
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 7: lot of it's more myths. In reality was that his

648
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 7: dad was actually the best athlete of the three sons, right, yeah,

649
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 7: and not that. And you and I both know if

650
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 7: you played Division one sports in anything, you were a

651
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 7: top end athlete. So it's not like Eli was some

652
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 7: bum athlete or certainly Peyton, but they weren't as fleet

653
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 7: a foot as maybe Cooper was. We never really got

654
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 7: to see Cooper because he got hurt. But I think

655
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 7: this guy can do more with his legs than either

656
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 7: one of his uncles could. And like you said, was

657
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 7: Archie really that gifted of a runner or was it

658
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 7: doing it just to save his own life? And we'll

659
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 7: never know.

660
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: Mac, do you believe and I'm going to I mean,

661
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: I want to preface this. It's not like you would

662
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 2: know this. I mean, you know, I'm assuming that you're

663
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 2: not sitting in on the family dinners of the Mannings,

664
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 2: but just in being around and maybe seeing a little

665
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 2: of arch Manning and knowing the history. There is so

666
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: much talk in Indianapolis as to and I think it's

667
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 2: more hopeful hyperbole, but there is talk of gosh, the

668
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: Colts should just tank everything and wait and get arch Manning,

669
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: and that there would be this immediate link in arch

670
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: Manning would pack up the Mayflower truck and move here. Right.

671
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: Do you think that there is the chance? I do

672
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 2: believe this that because of the way things ended with Peyton,

673
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: that the Mannings would pull an eli with the Chargers

674
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: and say no, he's not going to sign there.

675
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 7: You know, I think it just depends on what the

676
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 7: how they think the organization is being run. You know,

677
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 7: obviously the guy who's running the organization then is gone,

678
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 7: God rest his soul, And I have no clue you

679
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 7: would be more for more plugged into that than I

680
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 7: would be. And if they, you know, when they didn't

681
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 7: want to, I understood why they didn't want to go

682
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 7: to the Chargers, why they were really hesitant about Eli

683
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 7: going to San Diego. Everything I had ever heard, and

684
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 7: I talked to friends of mine who played for them,

685
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 7: that wasn't a great organization. It wasn't quite the Bengals

686
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 7: or anything like that, but they wanted them away from

687
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 7: that for a reason. I don't know how the culture

688
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 7: going to be run. I don't know if it's going

689
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 7: to be in that same strata as some of these

690
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 7: other sort of dysfunctional franchises. But the part to me

691
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 7: that that's really impressed me about his dad is that

692
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 7: they have gone out of the way their way, and

693
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 7: they knew, they know.

694
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 3: What they're doing.

695
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 7: They've really stressed for Eli to be as much of

696
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 7: a student and for this to just take its natural

697
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 7: time than to force anything the way Quinnewers did. There's

698
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 7: so many other of these guys now who are lining

699
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 7: this up since their sophomore year in high school, and

700
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 7: they've really stressed to him to take normal class loads,

701
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 7: to graduate, to do all this stuff, to drive it,

702
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 7: to try to keep this normal, because it's not normal.

703
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 7: There's nothing normal about it, but they want to so

704
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 7: I don't think they're sitting there worrying about any of it.

705
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 7: He has a great year, and they think the time

706
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 7: is right, they don't come out, and if not, he'll

707
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 7: stick around for one more year and you know, make

708
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 7: a lot of money and hopefully be a great quarterback

709
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 7: at UT and have a lot of fun.

710
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 2: He was red shirted, so in the classroom he is

711
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 2: organically a junior or senior right now.

712
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 7: I think he's a senior the way these are going now,

713
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 7: and I've learned this the hard way talking to college players.

714
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 7: These guys are staying on campus so much in the

715
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 7: summertime now that they're graduating in three years, and so

716
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure he's on pace to graduate in May.

717
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 2: I don't have the obviously, but this is his four

718
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: fourth year as a college student. Correct.

719
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, he came on campus early. He left high

720
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 7: school and started at UT as a freshman in January

721
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 7: of whatever year that was. But this has all been

722
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 7: to his dad's credit and the family's credit. They really

723
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 7: tried to take this slowly, and this was all planned out.

724
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 7: They were never gonna he was never going to start

725
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 7: ahead of Quinn Yewers. There was none of that stuff.

726
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 7: We all thought people like that.

727
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: And they knew it right, They knew it, pardon, they

728
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: knew it, maw.

729
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 7: It totally, and they were okay with it, and they

730
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 7: really thought that was the best healthiest thing to do

731
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 7: for everybody involved. It worked out. UT was really good

732
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 7: in Quinn's last two seasons. They didn't win a national championship.

733
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 7: They're still really good. They did not want him starting

734
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 7: I knew that the first season of UT being in

735
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 7: the SEC. They wanted like a feet wet element to it.

736
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 7: They did, and now they should be really really good.

737
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 7: I don't. I don't know if they're really the best

738
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 7: human nation. That's but I'm just the more even just

739
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 7: you talking about it with you right now, Jake, would

740
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 7: you bet against that against a manning? I just I can't.

741
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: I mean, It is like football royalty. For sure, I

742
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 2: would bet against the manning if they had to end

743
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: up a cowboy? How about that? I yes, So we

744
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: end with this Michael Parsons. Now. The only reason I

745
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: mentioned it is because you know, the NFL is the

746
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: a unpoun guerrilla. The Cowboys are kind of a national

747
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: team our listener Jeremiah like Blea, he's Cowboy blue. So Michaeh.

748
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 2: Parsons is now a Green Bay Packer and they could

749
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 2: not come to an agreement. What went down here? And

750
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 2: did the Cowboys misplay this or did they finally just

751
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: wash their hands of something that's going to help them?

752
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 7: Probably all the above. You know, when you had me

753
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 7: on a couple of weeks ago and I talked about this,

754
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 7: and I'd been on other shows, I'd written it, I

755
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 7: never ever ever saw this coming, Jake. If you would

756
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 7: have told me on January twenty sixth and Dallas Mavericks

757
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 7: would trade Luka Donchuc and the Dallas Cowboys would trade

758
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 7: Michael Parsons within seven months of each other, eight months

759
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 7: of each other, I would have been like, where's the

760
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 7: crack you're smoking? And I just can't believe it because

761
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 7: at least of the Cowboys. There was no precedence for

762
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 7: this at all with Jerry Jones. This is not the

763
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 7: Herschel Walker trade. It's not. This was Jerry. They had

764
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 7: an agreement back, a verbal agreement between the player and

765
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 7: the owner back in January March whenever it was. And

766
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 7: then the player says, wgotiate these with my agent. Well,

767
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 7: the owner got a little irritated about that, And what

768
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 7: really set him off was this happened in the last

769
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 7: seven days. Michael Parsons was getting MRIs done on his back.

770
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 7: His back is fine and he'll play week one in

771
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 7: Green Bay, probably limited snap camp, but he's going to play.

772
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 7: He was trying to find a doctor that would say, yeah,

773
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 7: I'm a little concerned about your back, you shouldn't play

774
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 7: week one, which would allow him to collect his game check.

775
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 7: He has not missed any checks during this holdout at all,

776
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 7: because he's been there at camp. Well, that finally was

777
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 7: the part where it caused the Cowboys brain trust to

778
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 7: go to the head coach, to go to the quarterback

779
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 7: and said, hey, what would you think if we trade

780
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 7: this guy? And they both parties said, do what you

781
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 7: got to do, So they got what they could for him,

782
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 7: and it's a joke of the deal. I mean the

783
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 7: best I mean, could you think of for an Indianapolis comparison?

784
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 7: Would you think of would the Colts ever have traded

785
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,959
Speaker 7: Dwight Freeney at twenty six years old for two first

786
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 7: round picks to a team that's probably going to be

787
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 7: drafting in the last third of the first round and

788
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 7: a thirty year old defensive player.

789
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: Well, I think the thing that makes it peculiar, mac

790
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: is it would be the Indianapolis Colts trading twenty six

791
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: year old Dwight Freeney to the Kansas City Chiefs at

792
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: that time or the maybe not the New England Patriots,

793
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: but I mean certainly a team that you know was

794
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: I mean, the Chiefs were a team that was a

795
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: contending AFC playoff team at that time. And that's what

796
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: green Bay is, right, green Bay's green Bay's better than Dallas.

797
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 7: Green Bay is better than Dallas. It's the youngest team

798
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 7: in the league. Parsons is twenty six years old, and

799
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 7: they were just sick of them. And there was one

800
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 7: part to it that I was a little sympathetic. Had

801
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 7: the Cowboys paid him, they were going to have three

802
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 7: players at their respective positions, making either the most or

803
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 7: second most of their spot. Dak Prescott, Ceedee Lamb, Michael Parsons, Well,

804
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 7: you can justifies two of the three of them. The

805
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 7: quarterback thing is just where you fall in line. And

806
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 7: to me, that's a lot. That's a lot of caps

807
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 7: based to eat up for three guys. But it's done.

808
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 7: He's gone, and I think the Cowboys are going to

809
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 7: be rebuilding. They got a delay who's thirty years old

810
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 7: in return. But to me, in my mind, this closes

811
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 7: the door on Dak prescott chances of getting to an

812
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 7: NFC championship game. This team was at best a wildcard team,

813
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 7: and now you take away not their best defensive player,

814
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 7: but their best player off the field. And I just

815
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 7: don't see how this is going to This is going

816
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 7: to really do anything other than keep them right around

817
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 7: mediocre at best.

818
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: Mac, you grew up in this town. You're now a

819
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: columnist in a big market that covers a big NFL

820
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 2: team in the Dallas Cowboys. Before we let you go,

821
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: I want to know this as somebody who grew up

822
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 2: in Indy. Yesterday, the Washington Post had the article regarding

823
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 2: the last few years of Jim Mersey and the grip

824
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 2: that addiction had on him. That is a relevant news

825
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: story in your opinion, or one that you let bygones

826
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 2: be bygones and let the man rest in peace.

827
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 7: It's funny you should say that. I thought about that

828
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 7: a lot. I think it depended on what point in

829
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 7: my life. Just being panted with you, I think at

830
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 7: my age I'm fifty two now, I think I would

831
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 7: have said let the man rest in peace. We were

832
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 7: well aware of his addictions. There was no secret. I

833
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 7: think he wore some of that on his sleeve. I

834
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 7: think anybody who spent God, I mean you. When I

835
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 7: saw him a few times when he would come down

836
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 7: to NFL owner's meetings of Dallas and I would see him,

837
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 7: it was awful. My heart went out to him. Whatever

838
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 7: I think about him as an owner, blah blah blah,

839
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 7: he just looked. He looked like hell. So on this one,

840
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,479
Speaker 7: I thought, why are we doing this? And he was gone.

841
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: I go back and forth, and then there's part of

842
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: me that does think about the fact. I'm not saying

843
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 2: I'm simply saying it as Devil's advocate here, but if

844
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: you have an NFL team that via the stadium that

845
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 2: they play in is largely publicly subsidized, and that public

846
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: subsidy has helped greatly inflate the net value and net

847
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 2: worth of the owner. Do the people in the fan

848
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 2: of that city and that capital Improvement board are they

849
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: entitled to know the transparency that decisions being made are

850
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 2: being made with clarity of thought.

851
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 7: That's the hell of an argument. And I can't. And

852
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 7: you know what, if you consider the news organization that

853
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 7: reported the story, no owner was more influential in the

854
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 7: oulster of Dan Snyder than Ben Mersey, Ben Jim Mersey.

855
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say, Bob Jim Mersay, so I can understand,

856
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 7: you can make it. You can convince me that it

857
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 7: was relevant for all the reasons that you just said.

858
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 7: I'm a big believer in like, if you're getting public money,

859
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 7: then I'm sorry, the standards are different. And Jim irsay,

860
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 7: I can't think of a private a man in the

861
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 7: private sector who benefited more from the generosity of who's

862
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 7: your taxpayers more than Jim mersay. I maybe the Simons

863
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 7: are in that conversation. My heart you know, obviously my

864
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 7: heartstrings are affected somewhat by the Simon's generosity for what

865
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 7: they showed back to the pacers in Indiana back in

866
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 7: the mid eighties. But you know, in terms of Jim, Yeah,

867
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 7: you know, Jake, you could. It wouldn't take much to

868
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 7: convince me that your your point is valid and that's

869
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 7: that's fair game.

870
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: I have a feeling mac In conclusion, I don't know this.

871
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 2: I have nothing to base this on. But I'll bet

872
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: you the doctor who was mentioned in that article that

873
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 2: was prescribing or giving him allegedly I'll use allegedly you know,

874
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: ket of mine if I'm saying that correctly, but administering

875
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 2: him opiates. Uh, it would not surprise me if we

876
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: don't continue to hear that name or an epilogue to

877
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: that story involving that.

878
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 7: Are we thinking like this is like a Michael Jackson doctor.

879
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I listen, I'm going all this is

880
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 2: allegedly and I'm I'm just saying, if you looked at

881
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 2: that article, there is a there's simply a precedent for

882
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 2: that reaction to that involvement. Well, if in fact that

883
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 2: but but that's a whole different I mean, that's a

884
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: legal can of worms that I'm not you know what

885
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: I mean. I mean, I've seen a couple of legal

886
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 2: commercials during Family Ties episodes, and that's the extent of

887
00:41:58,840 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: my law degree.

888
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 7: Jake, that's a valid concern and complaint at the medical community.

889
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 7: I've been I don't have any money compared to Jim

890
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 7: Irsay or a lot of people, and it would not

891
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 7: be hard for me at all to call a doctor

892
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 7: who's a friend of mine, said heyl, who would you

893
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 7: do me a favor? And I'm nobody right, And we

894
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 7: both know that people in that position of power, leverage

895
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 7: and influence.

896
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 2: But are there people who made money off of Jim

897
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 2: Mersay that now are not making money off Jim Irsay

898
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: who feel that somebody else is responsible for the fact

899
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 2: that they're now being denied money.

900
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, it's it's a sad reality of it.

901
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 7: I know a lot of people in the NFL circles

902
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 7: called Jim Rsay out for the double standards that he enjoyed,

903
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 7: and I think they're all valid. But it's the golden rule.

904
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 7: He who has the gold rules. Jim Mersay, thanks to Bob,

905
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 7: had a lot of gold.

906
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: I will let Mac the waitress know next time you're

907
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: in town. She seemed very exciting and I don't mean

908
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: I mean that, not in a creepy way at all.

909
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 2: She just you know, she was like, you guys were

910
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: so cool. I'm like, well, Mac is not me, So

911
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: there you go.

912
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: Well, thank you very much.

913
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: Jake.

914
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 7: Hey, you know, thanks for letting me come on, because

915
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 7: I totally whiffed the last time you had me on.

916
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 7: You're talking about Michael Parsons. I couldn't have been any

917
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 7: more wrong, because I'm sure I came on and said, oh,

918
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 7: they'll get a deal done, five minutes four, kickoff and

919
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 7: I'll play and it'll be fine.

920
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: We're used to that. And when you wrote up a

921
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: column and Max Movies, you also said The Predator was

922
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: a great movie. So you're oer for two now.

923
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 7: Okay, I'm not wrong about that classic.

924
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 2: All right, see you Mac?

925
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 7: All right, he's be talking to Jake Sailor.

926
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: Mack ingell Be in his writing writing career writing columns

927
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: called Max Movies for the Eastwood Newspaper in nineteen eighty five.

928
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: It was that or talk about the Colts, and at

929
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: that time they had, like I said, we didn't know

930
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: who the quarterback was going to be. My how times

931
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: have changed? Huh. Busy show Eddie. Who else do we

932
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 2: have lined up for today?

933
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 8: All I got Kevin Boone at the top of the hour,

934
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 8: Kyle net Rip about one thirty to preview week two

935
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 8: the high school football Right, yes, two fifteen. Taylor Tannabaum

936
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 8: ESP and the ACC Network will join us at two thirty.

937
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 8: A pretty cool story that happened earlier this week in

938
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 8: Fort Wayne that we'll talk about in One of the

939
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 8: athletic directors of these schools up in Fort Wayne will

940
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 8: join us.

941
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: A little good for the art, yes, sir, right, all right,

942
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: we'll continue run along Kevin Bowen and ten. I'm simply

943
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: saying this for the sake of explanation. It's not I

944
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 2: don't want it to appear as though I'm saying it like, yes, absolutely,

945
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: But I do think that it is a fair point,

946
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: and that is when and I understand both sides of it.

947
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: I completely understand and respect both sides of this. But

948
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 2: someone had asked me, Jake, you keep mentioning public subsidy,

949
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: how does that relate to the Jim Mersey story. I

950
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 2: don't know that it does, but I don't know that

951
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: it can be ruled out either. And what I mean

952
00:44:52,200 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 2: by that is simply this when the Indianapolis Colts, we're

953
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 2: playing in the RCAA Doome, and it was Bill Pollion

954
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: as much as I remember Bill Pullian saying competitive disadvantage.

955
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 2: The Colts had kind of convinced the city of Indianapolis

956
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: that playing in Indianapolis, because of its market size, was

957
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: a disadvantage in the NFL, I personally, in that regard

958
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 2: disagree because the NFL has a salary cap and revenue sharing.

959
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: So theoretically every team in the NFL has a maximum

960
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 2: they can spend, and every team in the NFL has

961
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 2: an equal distribution of money they bring in. Now, certainly

962
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: your auxiliary sponsorships you can sell and whatever else. The

963
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 2: money that you make on top of that, you can

964
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 2: make a lot more in a Los Angeles or whatever else.

965
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 2: But that is not money that is going in towards

966
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: building the competitiveness by nature of salary or team. It's

967
00:45:54,640 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 2: not like baseball. But I digress. In Indianapolis in the

968
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 2: at that time period the early two thousands, the city,

969
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: like a lot of cities, were worried about, notably their

970
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: franchise moving to Los Angeles. And I always felt when

971
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 2: the Colts moved from Baltimore to Indianapolis. It was such

972
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 2: an unpopular move within the league that it was then

973
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 2: determined by the owners of the NFL that for a

974
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: franchise to relocate, it needed eighty percent approval from its

975
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 2: fellow franchise owners. So if there were thirty two teams,

976
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: thirty one other teams had to vote. So basically twenty

977
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 2: five had to give you the okay. If you had

978
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: six holdouts that said you can't move, then you weren't moving.

979
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: And if you look, what to me is interesting is

980
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 2: when Los Angeles did not have a franchise during that time.

981
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: You had Minnesota that underwent renovations that got a new stadium.

982
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: You had Kansas City that underwent renovations. You had Cincinnati

983
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: that got a new stadium. You had Indianapolis that got

984
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 2: a new stadium. You had New York that got in

985
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 2: new stadium. You had Dallas that got a new stadium.

986
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 2: You had Arizona that got a new stadium. That's top

987
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: of my head, Atlanta, there's eight right there. At any time,

988
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: you were never going to get total approval because there

989
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: were always going to be at least six owners that

990
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 2: didn't want a franchise to move. To Los Angeles because

991
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 2: they knew that Los Angeles was their equal wildcard to

992
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: throw against their city taxpayers and say, if you don't

993
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: build me a new stadium, I'm off to Los Angeles.

994
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: Once all of those teams were taken care of and

995
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: all of those new stadiums were developed, then guess what.

996
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, then it was aok for the

997
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 2: Rams to go back to Los Angeles and the Chargers

998
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 2: to go to Los Angeles. But during that time, the

999
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: Colts got a very very owner favorable deal, perhaps the

1000
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: most in the NFL for public subsidy, meaning that forty

1001
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: percent of all non football revenue dollars at Lucas Oil

1002
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 2: Stadium went to the Indianapolis Colts, which was independently owned

1003
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: by Ji Mersey. So for that reason, and his net

1004
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: worth went from some you know, estimated in nineteen ninety

1005
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: seven eight nine, two thousand the mid like probably four

1006
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 2: hundred and five hundred million to now being worth say

1007
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 2: four and a half to five billion. And a great

1008
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 2: part of that is because of the luxuries that came

1009
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 2: from that subsidy. Simply, the point in the connection would be,

1010
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 2: if you have the taxpayers of a market subsidizing the

1011
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 2: building and the overall net of the owner. Then does

1012
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 2: that mean that those taxpayers are owed the transparency that

1013
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: the decisions both in business and in football are being

1014
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 2: made with clarity of thought and with somebody who is

1015
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: totally dialed in towards making the right decisions all the time.

1016
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that did or didn't happen. I'm saying

1017
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 2: that is the connection that people would make in terms

1018
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 2: of making the case why there should be a better

1019
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 2: transparency of the person in charge and the decisions that

1020
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 2: they make and the health that they were in That

1021
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 2: that's it. I'm not saying that's right or wrong. That's

1022
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 2: simply the explanation. Kevin Bowen joins us. Next, what Kevin

1023
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 2: Bowen you hear in the mornings on this fine radio station,

1024
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 2: The Fan Morning Show which Jeff Ricker and James Boyd

1025
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 2: on ninety three five and one oh seven five The

1026
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: Fan joins us now to talk about a number of

1027
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 2: different things, as we do often on Fridays, in particular

1028
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 2: during the football season. Kevin, I'll begin with this. If

1029
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 2: you look at the fifty three man roster for the

1030
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 2: Colts and just maybe if you kind of go back

1031
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 2: and look at your notes and that kind of thing.

1032
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: Sparing injury, which you know, we certainly hope never is

1033
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: the case, but sparing injury. When you look over this

1034
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 2: particular roster, how many players on the fifty three man

1035
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 2: are still there, let's say, one month in after four game.

1036
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 2: In other words, is this the kind of roster that

1037
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: you look at and you say, they might have kind

1038
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 2: of bookended it at spots fifty one, two and three

1039
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 2: with short term necessity, and then they will go back

1040
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: and replace other players for the long haul once others

1041
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 2: are healthy. Does that make sense what I'm saying.

1042
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, it definitely does.

1043
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 5: I would say not as many as maybe I would

1044
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 5: have thought it. You know, naturally, I think you're always

1045
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 5: going to have maybe one to two. You know, they're

1046
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 5: certainly looking to work out some veteran defensive players at

1047
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 5: linebacker and corner here, so you know, maybe you would have,

1048
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 5: you know, again, fifty two or fifty three that might

1049
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 5: need to sweat it out a little bit. But you know,

1050
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 5: one thing to point out about waiver claims again, you

1051
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 5: cut your roster to fifty three on Tuesday, then over

1052
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 5: the next twenty four hours you can put in claims

1053
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 5: for players all around the NFL. Obviously, we saw Juju

1054
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 5: Brientz be claimed by Miami. We saw Jelanie Woods declaimed

1055
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 5: by the Jets, we saw Samuel Walmack be claimed by

1056
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 5: the Titans. The only waiver claim the Colts put in

1057
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 5: all thirty one two all their cuts was for Chad Mumba,

1058
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 5: the linebacker who they ended up getting.

1059
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 3: But that was it.

1060
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 5: So you know, some years, you know, Ballard's first year,

1061
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 5: for example, the Colts claimed five guys and clearly they

1062
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 5: didn't feel the need to be that active yet. So again, naturally,

1063
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 5: I think, you know you're gonna have one to two

1064
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 5: maybe veterans that you find ala Xavien Howard and that type.

1065
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 5: Maybe you'll do that over the next handful of days,

1066
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 5: but I think for the most part, this will be

1067
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 5: a you know, a large chunk of the roster that

1068
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 5: you see a week from Friday.

1069
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: The situation at quarterback is the obvious that jumps out right.

1070
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 2: But when you look at their receiving corps and I

1071
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 2: do like their receivers and in particular tight end at

1072
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 2: Tyler Warren, and then you know Jelani Woods not making

1073
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 2: the roster. Do you think that in any way shape

1074
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 2: or form, the the receiving room or the offensive skill

1075
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 2: set players that the final decisions of guys may have

1076
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 2: been made based on who was under quarterback or is

1077
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 2: that completely irrelevant between Jones, richards and Leonard whoever it

1078
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 2: may be towards what players make those final spots.

1079
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's pretty irrelevant to make the team. Now,

1080
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 5: maybe on game day you get a little bit more

1081
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 5: selective and you know, game plan specific stuff, and you know,

1082
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 5: Alex Pearce is probably the one that comes to mind

1083
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 5: the most that I am curious about how much he

1084
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 5: has impacted negatively from Jones and not Richardson. We've seen him,

1085
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 5: you know, cat Steve ball from Jones in practice, but

1086
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 5: that's never really been his m O.

1087
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones. That is in game settings.

1088
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 5: So you know, clearly that's been something that Richardson has

1089
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 5: done a whole lot of Flacco with his big arm,

1090
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 5: did a lot with that too when he was playing

1091
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 5: last year. So Pierce would be the one once he

1092
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 5: transitioned to game day. But outside of that, I think no,

1093
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 5: I think it was pretty straightforward with how they handle cuffs.

1094
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: How did you think Shane Stike had handled this camp

1095
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 2: and offseason versus years past, same different, you know, et cetera.

1096
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I would say definitely different. And I'm

1097
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 5: guess i'm speaking specifically to training camp. You know, the

1098
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 5: the NFL mandates like a ramp up period. I think

1099
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 5: it's like a three or four first practices where you

1100
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 5: don't put on full pads yet, and then once they

1101
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 5: got to that end of that period, they might have

1102
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 5: worn full pads in every practice the rest of camp.

1103
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 5: And I think, if you'll notice it, camp was a

1104
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 5: little bit more spread out. Not a ton of practice,

1105
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 5: to be clear, but you know, maybe they'd only go

1106
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 5: two straight days and then they take a day off

1107
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 5: or you know, one day and a day off, but

1108
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 5: when they did go, they were always in full pads seemingly.

1109
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know, maybe I'm missing the day,

1110
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 5: which I think.

1111
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 3: That is a little bit of a change. You know,

1112
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 3: preseason playing time.

1113
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 5: I'm sure the quarterback competition dictated this, but you know

1114
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 5: he played obviously Jones, I guess you know, three quarters

1115
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 5: if he added all up, I mean, that's not a

1116
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 5: ton frankly, but I tend to think I might even

1117
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 5: be a little bit more than he's played the starter recently,

1118
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 5: even the defensive.

1119
00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 3: Guy who went out there for a quarter.

1120
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, now that I speak on it out loud, I

1121
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 5: don't know if he did a whole lot differently preseason

1122
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 5: playing time. But again, I thought training camp was definitely

1123
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 5: different in just the amount of full padded days.

1124
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 2: You know, Kevin. Kevin Bowen is our guest. You hear

1125
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 2: him on the Morning show obviously the Fan Morning Show

1126
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 2: with Jeff Record and James Boyd. When when you look

1127
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 2: over the Colts and in this particular roster, one of

1128
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 2: the things that that's interesting to me. I've made this

1129
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 2: point to you before. When you play little league baseball, Okay,

1130
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 2: if you try out for little league baseball, did you

1131
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 2: play the little league baseball? Kevin, Yes, sir, you played

1132
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: where Carmel Bad Club, Okay, and you were I know

1133
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 2: you're obviously an elite level state champion golfer. On a

1134
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 2: one to ten scale, What was your baseball skill set?

1135
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 5: Oh?

1136
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 3: Six? And that that might be too generous.

1137
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 2: So much so in baseball at the little league level,

1138
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 2: oftentimes you put kind of your weakest player, like in

1139
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 2: left field. My apologies to people whose kids are playing

1140
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 2: left field, but every you know, but.

1141
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:11,720
Speaker 3: That's the kid to second base.

1142
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 5: There goes a little Johnny out there.

1143
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 2: So the kid that's still learning the position usually gets

1144
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 2: kind of put out in left field. It feels to

1145
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 2: me like linebacker in this defense for the Colts has

1146
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 2: become their left field. Now that's no disrespect desire Franklin

1147
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 2: and the players they have, but it just seemed like

1148
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 2: in this defense in today's NFL, and I know it's

1149
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 2: a cyclical league, but as the linebacker spot becoming the

1150
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 2: one not that you put your weakest player, I don't

1151
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 2: mean it that way, but the one where you can

1152
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 2: just kind of mask guys versus other positions within this defense.

1153
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 5: Shout out to Eddie Hamilton. I'll ever forget him beating

1154
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 5: me in the butt in sixth grade and I cried

1155
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 5: so hard. I really, honestly, the seams might still be

1156
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 5: on the right cheek of mine as I as I

1157
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 5: turned to to take that.

1158
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 3: One right off the butt.

1159
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's probably my grandest little league memory. Uh Yeah,

1160
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 5: I think I think it's a good analogy.

1161
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 3: Uh And I also think that.

1162
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 5: You probably could say that league wide, you know, honestly,

1163
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 5: just the day and age of Hey, here's our four

1164
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 5: to three and we've got these three thumping linebackers and

1165
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 5: you know they're gonna stop the run. That that's just

1166
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 5: largely gone, I would say across the league. Now, some

1167
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 5: teams are a little bit more willing to maybe play

1168
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 5: three linebackers than the Colts. I think under lu Ana Roumo,

1169
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 5: it's not going to be a you know, heavily invested

1170
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 5: position group, and the Colts probably have the least I

1171
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 5: would argue they probably have the least inexperienced linebacker group,

1172
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 5: you know, the most inexperience I should say linebacker group

1173
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 5: in the entire league. And then Ziar Franklin, the one,

1174
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 5: uh he's yet to take an eleven on eleven rep

1175
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 5: in a game with and Remo's defense. You know, he

1176
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 5: missed so much of all the spring and then or

1177
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 5: all the team periods I should say in the spring,

1178
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 5: and then a lot of camp as well. So yeah,

1179
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 5: that is a definitely unknown. It's probably the biggest question

1180
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 5: of mark on the roster. But the good news is

1181
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 5: to your point, it's it's an area that's like, you know,

1182
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 5: you can probably.

1183
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 3: Get away with it to a degree.

1184
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 5: Now, you know, we'll run heavy teams, you know, Denver

1185
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 5: kind of comes to mind there, and we two. You know,

1186
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 5: when you face those types of teams, you know, how

1187
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 5: much do they try to expose.

1188
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 2: That the Kevin the linebacker. The reason I mentioned it

1189
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 2: about the linebacker spot, I'm curious. I mean, when you

1190
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,959
Speaker 2: look at the league in general, it just feels this way,

1191
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 2: like in the last couple of years that I've noticed this.

1192
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 2: But is this more about just this particular defense for

1193
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 2: the Colts this year or is this kind of a

1194
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 2: league wide trend in the fact that you'd rather have,

1195
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 2: you know, your guys on the end and your edge

1196
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 2: and those things, and then an additional because of the

1197
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 2: way passing rules are, an additional defensive back. Is this

1198
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 2: a Colts thing or a league thing?

1199
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think the Colts are a little

1200
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 5: bit more on the full in on it. But I

1201
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 5: say for the most part, you know, the rest of

1202
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 5: the NFL is like that. I mean, just look at

1203
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 5: recent drafts. I can't recall many linebackers going in Round

1204
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 5: one of drafts, you know, even kind of big money

1205
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 5: investments as well. And I think naturally you have to

1206
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 5: have some positions like that. I mean, you you've probably

1207
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 5: heard this from me a lot for me. There's kind

1208
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 5: of five premium positions in the NFL quarterback, wide out, blindside, tackle,

1209
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 5: defensive end, and corner.

1210
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 3: You can rank those however you want.

1211
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 5: And and honestly, that's probably been the biggest nemesis.

1212
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 3: Of the Ballad era.

1213
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 5: Obviously quarterback would be the poster child of it, but

1214
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 5: not finding enough substance at those five so obtus he

1215
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 5: found plenty of linebackers. There's nobating that he's a Hall

1216
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 5: of Fame drafter at linebacker, no matter of the day,

1217
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 5: no out of the round. Yet you know the other

1218
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 5: ones that have probably been more of the buggleboo.

1219
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 2: Kevin. What else I guess before we move on to

1220
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 2: another subject matter here with and I know you talked

1221
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 2: about it plenty in the morning, but for our audience,

1222
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 2: what if anything did jump out at you about the

1223
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 2: roster itself? Maybe an area where you were surprised how

1224
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 2: deep they were, or an area where you were surprised

1225
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: how shallow they were, or even gosh, it looks like

1226
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 2: they're really emphasizing this particular style. And I didn't anticipate it.

1227
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 3: Definitely cornerback.

1228
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 5: I again, in the nine years of Ballard, I don't

1229
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 5: think a position group has received that much investment in

1230
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 5: a single offseason. And really it's a couple of guys

1231
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 5: didn't even play football last year, which you know is

1232
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 5: kind of wild, but when you think about it, they

1233
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 5: went out, they paid Gavarius Award, I think, the most

1234
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 5: lucrative free agent contract of any cold ever. The drafted

1235
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 5: Justin Wallly in round three. Now unfortunately he tours ACL.

1236
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 5: They then go out and they signed Xavi and Howard,

1237
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 5: former All Pro now didn't play football last year and

1238
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 5: he's thirty two years old now, so there's a little

1239
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 5: bit of a question mark. Can you find Steffan Gilmore

1240
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 5: two point zero? They trade a six round pick for

1241
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 5: Mackay Blackman, a former third rounder who also didn't play

1242
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 5: football last year as a torn ACL. So you know,

1243
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 5: when you add up all of that, you know they

1244
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 5: cut Juju Brent. They still brought back their big snap

1245
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 5: guys from last year, Kenny Moore Jalen Jones. So it's

1246
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 5: just a it's quite a one eighty, and you know what,

1247
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 5: a major credit to Chris Ballard for attempting to solve

1248
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 5: a twenty twenty four issue.

1249
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 3: Cornerback depth was greatly.

1250
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 5: Tested early in the season and largely failed, and he

1251
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 5: looked at it, and I'm sure LouAnn Erumo's influence helped out,

1252
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 5: but he looked at it and decided to do something

1253
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 5: about it.

1254
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 3: And we'll see, obviously if it works out. But at

1255
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 3: the very least, I.

1256
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 5: Think there's been too many times where E've been wanting

1257
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 5: him to get the bat off his shoulders, to go

1258
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 5: back to our little analogy, I guess, and he hasn't

1259
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 5: even done that. It's been you know, the old backwards K,

1260
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 5: and it's like, well, you know, I'd like to at

1261
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 5: least see the frontwards K, like at least go down swinging.

1262
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 5: And this is definitely an attempt at going down swinging.

1263
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 2: Kevin. I'll tell you one area where I think you

1264
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 2: and I would have been doing point counterpoint if I

1265
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 2: was still doing the morning show with you, because I

1266
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 2: think we disagree on this, so I wanted you to explain,

1267
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 2: you know, why you're wrong. I thought that Chris Ballard

1268
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 2: in his press conference, and I admittedly I wasn't in

1269
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 2: the room. I mean we were on the air, and

1270
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 2: I was watching it and listening to it, and I

1271
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 2: know that Chris Ballard and I said when I was

1272
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 2: talking about it. I completely understand and respect that it

1273
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 2: would get old having everybody tell you like how to

1274
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 2: do your job. I mean, we get enough of that

1275
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 2: as it is. I totally get it. I respect where

1276
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 2: he's coming from. But even with that, with that the

1277
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 2: baseline of that being the norm, just in that position

1278
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 2: or in general, I thought he was more defensive and

1279
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 2: quicker to jump in and try to redirect questions than

1280
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 2: he has been in the past. And I thought it

1281
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 2: came off almost like he was over compensatory in trying

1282
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 2: to explain that he did not feel pressure in his

1283
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 2: But I think you disagree with that.

1284
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: Tell me why, Well, let me start here.

1285
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 5: I guess I could be numb to it, to be

1286
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 5: honest with you, just sitting in You know, this is

1287
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 5: what probably the sixth time he's spoken to the media

1288
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 5: since the end of last season, So you know, in

1289
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 5: some way, shape or form, he's I've heard him have

1290
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 5: to answer like that pressure question for example late where

1291
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 5: he answers about the real job. You know, he he

1292
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 5: at the start of training camp was asked a very

1293
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 5: similar question. He deflected that and saying, no, you know,

1294
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 5: pressure's paycheck's a paycheck. Pressure is and you know that's

1295
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 5: where you want to kind of grab them ike and

1296
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 5: be like, dude, we get it.

1297
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 3: We're in an NFL bubble here.

1298
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 5: We're not in a Every human being on the planet is,

1299
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 5: you know whatever, eating from the same place. So I

1300
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 5: largely think if you watched Chris Bauer press conferences in

1301
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 5: the last two.

1302
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 3: To three years especially, you will see.

1303
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 5: Defensive, you will see fightiness, You'll see all of that.

1304
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 3: I I mean you obviously.

1305
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 5: Watched him listen to it, which is different than reading

1306
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 5: the quotes. You know, he interjects at one points like

1307
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 5: did you listen to me?

1308
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 3: I think he said that to Stephen Holder, like I didn't.

1309
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 5: I mean, I think he says something along those lines

1310
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 5: every single time he's in front of a mic.

1311
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 3: And I thought Joel A.

1312
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 5: Rickson pointed this out, well, right before the press conference

1313
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 5: is going to start, he goes, you know this is

1314
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 5: going to be very feisty ballard because and really annually,

1315
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 5: I'd say this press conference is always that. When you

1316
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 5: think about it, he talks really five or six times

1317
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 5: every year, end of the season, combine you know, owners meetings, draft.

1318
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think when else, probably the start a

1319
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 5: training camp and then this one, you know, ten days

1320
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 5: before the start of the season. Well, you know, now

1321
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 5: it's bleeper, get off the pot.

1322
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 3: Now it's oh boy.

1323
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 5: You know it's it's easy to build it all, you know,

1324
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 5: and talk about it during optimism season, the draft, free

1325
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 5: agency training camp. But now it's we are here, and

1326
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 5: so maybe there's a little bit of that in his tone.

1327
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I so, I guess that was my point. I

1328
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 2: just thought he typically has that, and I kind of

1329
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 2: understand it, you know, it would get old, the same

1330
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 2: questions over and over. But then at the same time,

1331
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 2: I guess the part of me, Kevin, and you tell

1332
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong, is if you're tired of answering

1333
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 2: the same question over and over, then like do something

1334
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 2: about making sure that doesn't get asked again, right, sure?

1335
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 5: And I think, honestly, just so many of the words

1336
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 5: just are end with hallowness, if that's even a word,

1337
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 5: I guess, of course, and that you know, you look

1338
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 5: at the res men and I go back to when

1339
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 5: we had him on at the combine, you know, and

1340
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 5: there were two questions that I asked him that I

1341
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 5: felt we're kind of met with some very specific kind

1342
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 5: of like, damn, Like that's the answer for that question.

1343
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 5: But then I'm like, well, I guess he's not wrong.

1344
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 5: And the two questions were why are you getting in

1345
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 5: the ninth year and he basically said in that answer

1346
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 5: that Jim orsaying him. At the end of the twenty

1347
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 5: twenty two season, they agreed to this patient master plan.

1348
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 5: We're going to hire a first year coach. We're gonna

1349
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 5: draft a young quarterback. They obviously drafted the youngest and

1350
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 5: the rows quarterback you could imagine, and that means the

1351
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 5: least is gonna grow. And that was the answer on

1352
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 5: why he get a ninetyeer, Not because he's built a

1353
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 5: playoff team here or there, or he's won the AFC

1354
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 5: South here or there, or he had this great stretch

1355
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 5: four years ago and they think they're going to resurrect that.

1356
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 3: Like none of that was in the answer.

1357
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 5: The other question was, you know, what is your greatest

1358
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 5: accomplishment through eight years? And he points to, you know,

1359
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 5: something that happened in twenty eighteen, get into the postseason

1360
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 5: beating Houston points to twenty twenty, you know, getting into

1361
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 5: the playoffs. Well, in the NFL world, you know, five

1362
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 5: and seven years ago, years light years exactly, so you know,

1363
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 5: I don't know. Maybe back in February, that's when I

1364
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 5: really kind of walked away from him. I was like, damn,

1365
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 5: those answers, I don't I guess he's not wrong, but

1366
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 5: they're just met with just again such hollow in this.

1367
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 5: And that's the same thing I felt like going into

1368
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 5: that press room the other day, where it was just

1369
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 5: like I wasn't expecting much and I thought, simply his

1370
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 5: best answer was one of his most succinct answers was

1371
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 5: you know, he got asked several times about, hey, you know,

1372
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 5: why should fans believe in you? And he simply said,

1373
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 5: they'll believe when you win, and if you don't, they won't.

1374
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 5: And honestly, that's probably a great way, a sad way,

1375
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 5: but a great way to summarize where he's at right now.

1376
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 2: You know, a fascinating thing that Eddie and I came

1377
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 2: up with, Kevin. I looked at the schedule this year

1378
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 2: and I believe, Eddie, you jump in here if I'm wrong,

1379
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 2: I believe this is correct. Do you know, Kevin Bowen

1380
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 2: what Arizona, Kansas City? They that's the only two they

1381
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 2: are the only two opponents this year against the Indianapolis

1382
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 2: Colts that have what in common in regards to the

1383
01:06:58,160 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 2: Knight that Andrew Luck retired.

1384
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 5: Their quarterback was found before that night.

1385
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 2: Correct, So the point being Chris was going.

1386
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 5: To say, there's a bird on their helmet. I thought

1387
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 5: you were going to do one of your helmet games here.

1388
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 2: No, but you are correct. Those are the only two

1389
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 2: franchises that had that are quarterbacked right now by a

1390
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 2: guy that was on the roster when Indelect retired. So

1391
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 2: to me, that points out the whole Well, you got

1392
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 2: to keep in mind, give me a pass begun. And

1393
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that he's asked for that, but he

1394
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 2: kind of infers it from time to time. And I'm like, yeah, man,

1395
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 2: that was like football eons ago, you know what I mean,

1396
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 2: everybody else has had to take care of that since then.

1397
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 5: You know, that might have been a twenty twenty one

1398
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 5: talking point. I think he's finally realized that that's just

1399
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 5: no longer you know, a fair statement. And again, hindsight

1400
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 5: is twenty twenty. But you and I probably have this conversation,

1401
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 5: but you know, it really comes down that first draft

1402
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 5: after Locks, when they sat there at the thirteenth overall pick,

1403
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 5: and Jalen hurtsk goes fifty something overall and Jordan Loves

1404
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 5: goes twenty whatever, twenty five overall.

1405
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 3: That was your time.

1406
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 5: That was your time to sit there and say, all right,

1407
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 5: to win in this league, you have to find the

1408
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 5: quarterback that gives you that five to seven year window.

1409
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 5: And they elected to go, you know, and try to

1410
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 5: band ad it up and pass on that. They obviously

1411
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 5: traded it for Buckner that pick, which you know he's

1412
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,640
Speaker 5: turned out to be a fine player. But if that

1413
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,719
Speaker 5: pick turns out to be Jordan Love or Jalen Hurts,

1414
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 5: I don't think we're talking about zero playoff wins since

1415
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 5: that draft.

1416
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 2: What year was it that Luck retired? What was the

1417
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 2: actual date?

1418
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,839
Speaker 5: August nineteen, August twenty nineteen.

1419
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 2: Okay, so even hindsight was twenty twenty, and also twenty

1420
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 2: twenty was after intere Relict retired. Okay, here's the last thing.

1421
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 2: Somebody asked me this. Okay, Eddie, you got a question

1422
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 2: real quick, and then I got a listener question for Kevin.

1423
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 8: Kevin, we talked about this on Colts Corner earlier this week.

1424
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 8: If you removed just like the outside stuff with Shane

1425
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 8: stake and the press conferences, all that stuff. Has he

1426
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:53,560
Speaker 8: been a good coach when it comes to ex's and

1427
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 8: I was on the field through two years.

1428
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 5: I think offfensive mind guy, Yeah, but there's a whole

1429
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 5: lot more that goes into being the head coach. And

1430
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 5: I think evaluating a total operation, making sure your message

1431
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 5: is heard inside that locker room and followed inside that

1432
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 5: locker room. I think he does lacked in those areas.

1433
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,640
Speaker 5: I think he admitted as much after last season. The

1434
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 5: whole you know, the standard and et cetera, et cetera.

1435
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 5: So I think again of a are you maximizing your

1436
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 5: offense as much as you can outside the quarterback? Clearly yes,

1437
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:32,680
Speaker 5: but you know, the whole leader of the operation. I

1438
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 5: don't think that has been lacking. I mean he's a

1439
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 5: pot hunter head coach for two years. Given the quarterback play,

1440
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 5: I don't think that's egregious by any means, But I

1441
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 5: think he could grow in some of the other non

1442
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 5: offensive related areas.

1443
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 8: And then, as a follow up, if you're to say

1444
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 8: that the Colts were to make the playoffs, would he

1445
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 8: be a reason why you would be confident in making

1446
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 8: that statement?

1447
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, easily, I think for the Colts to make

1448
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 5: the playoffs, all the others on offense have to be

1449
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 5: very good. And by others, I me non Daniel Jones.

1450
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 5: So Jonathan Taylor's got to be in his prime. He's

1451
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 5: got to stay healthy. Your O line has got to

1452
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,600
Speaker 5: have no drop off from losing two starters and a

1453
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 5: pass catching group, as Jake pointed out earlier, which is

1454
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 5: probably the best in.

1455
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 3: The ballad era. That's got to be, you know, better

1456
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 3: than it has been so.

1457
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 5: Uh and of course second at the play caller falls

1458
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 5: into that boat.

1459
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 2: Uh hey, Jake, can you please ask Kevin if we

1460
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 2: can get a beers with Bowen before the start of

1461
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 2: the cold season.

1462
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 5: Oh wow, gosh, that sounds awesome. Yeah, I mean yeah, honestly,

1463
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 5: we should just meet up at a nice local. Yeah,

1464
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 5: I'm looking right now. We could walk over to Fat Dams.

1465
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 5: We're gonna walk over the Bulldog. We could you know,

1466
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 5: head over to Butler, go to Chatham.

1467
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 2: We could go through hold Dog's got pbr on tap.

1468
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 3: Hogies and hops? Yeah we got.

1469
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 2: Hops is awesome. Hogies and Hops is awesome. Nothing wrong

1470
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 2: with that.

1471
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we got a lot of place, you know,

1472
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 5: a little chilly water action over to hogies and hops.

1473
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 3: So I love that idea.

1474
01:10:56,720 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 5: Now, Jake, we are approaching, I believe the endnniversary of

1475
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 5: your fiftieth birthday party.

1476
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 3: If I must throw that in there, that is correct.

1477
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 5: I just think we remember watching that at the Big

1478
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 5: Lug and Notre Dame in Ohio State and you were

1479
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 5: very allowing and accepting of me to maybe slide over

1480
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:15,719
Speaker 5: to the other room to catch that on the CV.

1481
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 5: Your Tigers now are in that game. Are we liking Clemson?

1482
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 5: I'm seeing them as a popular national title pick.

1483
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 2: Here here's the thing. This is where Kevin, I think

1484
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 2: Clemson has a huge advantage when it comes to the

1485
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 2: national championship, and that is they open with LSU. I

1486
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 2: would like to think they're going to beat LSU because

1487
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 2: it's in Clemson. But even if they lose a close

1488
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 2: game there, I think the ACC schedule is such and

1489
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 2: as favorable as such that they can do what Notre

1490
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 2: Dame did a year ago and drop an early game

1491
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 2: and then put together a win streak that it's impossible

1492
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 2: to keep them out. And you just want a chance.

1493
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 2: You just want to see to the table, right, and

1494
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 2: then you get into the playoffs and you see where

1495
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 2: things fall. They have a very good quarterback, and they've

1496
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,040
Speaker 2: got a very good defensive roster and Tom Allen and

1497
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 2: is now their defensive coordinator. So at the very least

1498
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 2: we know that they will be excellent snapping and singing right,

1499
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 2: oh what too? You know what to do, and they'll

1500
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 2: be relentless. I don't know your thoughts, Kevin, Notre Dame

1501
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 2: as well, start out with Miami and then Clemson. Your thoughts.

1502
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 9: I thought that was a.

1503
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 5: Flight dig you snuck in there at Notre Dame.

1504
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 7: That was not lost on me.

1505
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 5: Yes, I I obviously to the two market games, not

1506
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,560
Speaker 5: name Ohio State Texas. I'm a little nervous about, you know,

1507
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 5: first time starting quarterback Lloyd Carr's grandson. By the way,

1508
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 5: I'd never thrown a pass and now he's going to

1509
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 5: walk into that environment. But I believe in d pretty

1510
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 5: much everybody else.

1511
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 3: Honestly, I got to split the first.

1512
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 5: Two Miami text A and m get a split, and

1513
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 5: then hopefully you'll be on your way to a playofform.

1514
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 2: It was actually not a knock on Notre Dame and

1515
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 2: happened to Ohio State too. Didn't Ohio State have a loss?

1516
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 2: And then they you know, you knew that they were

1517
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:50,679
Speaker 2: one of the twelve, and so they got in anyway.

1518
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know that was unfair.

1519
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 3: Maybe if you're gonna lose, my would just staying for

1520
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 3: Notre Dame.

1521
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 5: So anytime you talk about them, I'm always thinking to myself,

1522
01:12:59,439 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 5: I know.

1523
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 2: Ja, I told you, Kevin, I told you. The reason

1524
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 2: the most unlikable thing about Marcus Freeman is I hate

1525
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 2: how likable he is.

1526
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I really.

1527
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:11,560
Speaker 2: Want to dislike him, and I'm like, man, he's just

1528
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 2: a cool dude. And they were fun to watch last year,

1529
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 2: and the game against IU was special, and then watching

1530
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 2: him after that was cool. I liked everything about it.

1531
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 2: But all right, your last weekend before the NFL gets underway, Kevin,

1532
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:23,759
Speaker 2: enjoy it, appreciate the time as always.

1533
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 3: Good Lucky Tigers. Thus see you and Addie have a

1534
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:26,719
Speaker 3: great weekend.

1535
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 2: Thank you, Kevin Bowen joining us on the program. Now,

1536
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 2: my Eagles got to win. No, I'm sorry they lost.

1537
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 2: My Eagles lost. My Eagles lost, but my Panthers got

1538
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 2: to win. I'm talking about high school football. Kyle Edrip

1539
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:44,679
Speaker 2: gonna join us. We'll talk about some of the Marquee

1540
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 2: matchups and we'll find out what Crystal House is doing.

1541
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 2: That's my squad. We'll do it next now, Eddie, I

1542
01:13:52,560 --> 01:14:00,120
Speaker 2: have this deja vu this you ever had? I have

1543
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 2: like one of those things where you're like, wait a minute,

1544
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 2: I not even that, like I've having a deja vous

1545
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 2: where you're like, I've been through this before, but rather

1546
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 2: just a recollection of I'm pretty certain that I remember

1547
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 2: this correctly, but maybe I'm wrong. An epiphany and eph well,

1548
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 2: an epiphany is more like a realization of a reality.

1549
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 2: This is like a I think an epiphany because I

1550
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,799
Speaker 2: think this is reality, but I'm not positive. I recall

1551
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 2: it one time on Friday nights, you would be gallivanting

1552
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,719
Speaker 2: around doing different high school games and play by play correct.

1553
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 2: That is correct? And is that still the case or

1554
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 2: has that now been usurped by the fact that you

1555
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,679
Speaker 2: are the pre and post game host for the Indiana Fever,

1556
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 2: who have a game tonight against the La Spark.

1557
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 8: That is currently usurped. So h you know, I think

1558
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 8: my first game is in a couple of weeks because

1559
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 8: the Fever played tonight and next week on Friday night,

1560
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 8: So I think my first high school will be on

1561
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 8: the twelfth.

1562
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 2: This September. I was thinking that, you know, maybe that

1563
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 2: was something that I was strictly clueless on, so to speak, right,

1564
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 2: which takes us perfectly to our next guest.

1565
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,679
Speaker 8: Oh, I didn't have it ready this time.

1566
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 2: Shockingly, you didn't have ready the would you like to

1567
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 2: find it? And then we can do that again and

1568
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 2: it'll act like it'll look like a well oil machine.

1569
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 2: Like we thought this out, it's too late now. As

1570
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 2: the producer of the program of the hot keys that

1571
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 2: you push when I say certain things, uh, you know,

1572
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 2: I was thinking, since we're talking high school football and

1573
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 2: thinking about that with you, uh, that maybe I was

1574
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:22,799
Speaker 2: just clueless in that. Speaking of clueless, that segues perfectly

1575
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 2: to our next guest.

1576
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 10: Speaking of lost and clueless. So we bring on Kyle

1577
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 10: Edenrip from the Star.

1578
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 2: Thank you. Kyle Edrip does in fact join us from

1579
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Star, and I'm sure he's thrilled that that's

1580
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 2: his new intro each and every time he's on. Is

1581
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 2: that right, Kyle?

1582
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 10: I thought you were gonna I thought you're gonna make

1583
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 10: me say it again. I couldn't remember that. What's my line?

1584
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 10: I forgot my line?

1585
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 8: We should have done that. Now we have two different versions.

1586
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 2: I can we need you to say this again, speaking

1587
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,560
Speaker 2: of lost and clueless, Let's bring on Kyle needderrip for

1588
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 2: the Dapple Star.

1589
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 10: Go ahead, all right, Yeah, that's uh, that's that's a

1590
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 10: good intro.

1591
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 2: I like that. Okay, let's keep that fair enough. Okay, uh,

1592
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 2: let's begin with this from a week ago. You know,

1593
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 2: there were a lot of games that we were anticipating,

1594
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 2: a lot of big time matchups. It is way too

1595
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 2: early in the season to say, you know, separation Friday nights,

1596
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 2: But were there teams that jumped out at you, Kyle,

1597
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 2: and you looked at it and said, you know what,

1598
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 2: I was intrigued. I wasn't sold, but now maybe I

1599
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 2: might be. These guys are somebody to watch. Well.

1600
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 10: I mean, you could start with North Central probably from

1601
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 10: you know, just from a standpoint of like man getting

1602
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 10: that first win and in thirty two game or breaking

1603
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 10: that thirty two game streak. You know, and I know

1604
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:35,600
Speaker 10: that the games will get tougher starting tonight, but you know,

1605
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 10: to be able to do what they did against Rebuff

1606
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 10: last week, I think that was you know, certainly an

1607
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 10: eye opener, and a lot of young talent on that

1608
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:45,680
Speaker 10: team and a new coach and coach Koper, and you know,

1609
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 10: pretty exciting and watching the fans come on the field

1610
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 10: after the game was you could kind of tell it

1611
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 10: was just kind of a special night. But but I

1612
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 10: would say too, like, you know, Carmel, you know, doing

1613
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 10: what they did against Fishers, you know, handling Fishers forty

1614
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 10: nine to twenty four, and then you know, going into

1615
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 10: tonight against Westfield, it's it's an even bigger, you know,

1616
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:07,759
Speaker 10: bigger game, bigger uh you know, I will say stakes,

1617
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 10: because even if you lose, you don't really lose anything

1618
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 10: as far as what can happen in the future, but

1619
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 10: it maybe just gives you more of a you know,

1620
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 10: just establishes yourself a little bit more as one of

1621
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 10: those teams to beat, especially on the north side of

1622
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 10: that bracket where Westfield's kind of been the team to beat.

1623
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 10: So I think that was really an eye opener of

1624
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 10: what they did the first week. And then I'll be

1625
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:28,600
Speaker 10: at that game tonight. I can't wait to see what

1626
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 10: happens there between those two teams, and should be a

1627
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:35,680
Speaker 10: fantastic atmosphere out there at Carmel tonight, So you know, I,

1628
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 10: you know, I think some of the teams we probably

1629
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 10: expected to win did like you know, you know, New

1630
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 10: pal and some of the teams that you know, we

1631
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 10: knew going into the year were really good. Brownsburg although

1632
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 10: their game we didn't know, you know, playing national ranked

1633
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 10: team out of Maryland, you know, so to beat them,

1634
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 10: I think establishes them even more so as the number

1635
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 10: one team in six A. But but yeah, I mean

1636
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 10: it's a tonight, we'll find out more. Sometimes you overreact

1637
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 10: to week one, like you know, kind of like the NFL.

1638
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 10: But you know, I think tonight we'll find out. It's

1639
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 10: a really good slate of games tonight. So I'm really

1640
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 10: interested to see what happens with with a lot of

1641
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 10: these big games.

1642
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 2: Actually, Brownsburg's got a big one, right. They have Cathedral tonight,

1643
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:13,640
Speaker 2: don't they they do?

1644
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 10: Yeah, Cathedral handled Ben Davis last week, and you know

1645
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 10: that'll be another great test, you know, two kind of

1646
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 10: you know, I would say contrasting teams necessarily, but Cathedral's

1647
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 10: gonna you know, they run the ball really well, They're

1648
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 10: they're good defensive team. Brownsburg has been kind of the

1649
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 10: more explosive teams, so a little bit of a contrast

1650
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 10: of styles to some aspect there, But Yeah, that should

1651
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 10: be a fantastic game as well. You know, New palad

1652
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 10: De cater Central will be a good one. You know

1653
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 10: around Colley Franklin Central some of the some of the

1654
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:46,839
Speaker 10: highlighted games, I would say from tonight, Ellen hosts Fishers

1655
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 10: that could that could be a good one as well,

1656
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 10: avon Ben Davis. So you get a lot of a

1657
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 10: lot you kind of go down the list, there's a

1658
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 10: lot of good games tonight.

1659
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 2: North Central, by the way, takes on Hamilton Southeastern HS

1660
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 2: is pretty good, aren't they They are, Yeah.

1661
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 10: Very good team. I would put them right up there.

1662
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 10: I think they're ranked number six in the in the

1663
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 10: state this week in six A. And you know, they

1664
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 10: had a you know, kind of a knockdown drag out

1665
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 10: with the four win Carol last week and they they

1666
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 10: won that game fourteen to seven. But uh, you know,

1667
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 10: they're just very solid.

1668
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 2: Every year.

1669
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 10: They did lose some some players up front, you know,

1670
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 10: you lost some players to graduation, but they seem to reload.

1671
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:24,719
Speaker 10: Michael Kelly's done a great job there and and that'll

1672
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 10: be a tough, you know, tough game for North Central obviously,

1673
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 10: but just the fact that you you know, take a

1674
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 10: little bit of momentum from you know, kind of getting

1675
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 10: that first win. I mean, nothing better than being one

1676
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 10: to know after one week. I mean as so, you know,

1677
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 10: I think you take some confidence into into the game tonight.

1678
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 10: Their schedule North Central schedule really tough here these next

1679
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 10: three weeks. But but I think some excitement certainly for

1680
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 10: that program to uh, you know, to get over that

1681
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:49,799
Speaker 10: losing streak.

1682
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 2: Rushville and Shelbyville. Baby Golden Bear is going to stun

1683
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 2: the world. And that's a program that's really struggled, right

1684
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 2: it is.

1685
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, they they I know they had some you know,

1686
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:02,639
Speaker 10: there were some real struggles a few years ago where

1687
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 10: they were, you know, it's kind of losing every game

1688
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 10: there for a while, and you know, numbers were pretty low,

1689
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 10: and you know, I know Michael Clevenger was trying to

1690
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 10: get a going there. And then you know, they changed

1691
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 10: coaches a couple of times and Scott Fitzgerald's taken over

1692
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 10: who was part of that program in different levels of

1693
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:22,679
Speaker 10: football there, and they have got it. I wouldn't say

1694
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 10: fully turned around, but they've they've done better here these

1695
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 10: last few years and have been able to win some

1696
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 10: games and you know, get some people out. I know,

1697
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 10: they had a couple of key injuries to last week,

1698
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 10: but they did get a win, and uh, you know

1699
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 10: that's always again nothing better than being one to know

1700
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 10: after one week. So we'll see they rushfield tonight at home,

1701
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 10: so we'll see if they can keep it going. But

1702
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 10: they at least have got that program where they're they're

1703
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:49,720
Speaker 10: winning a little more than they were before and you know,

1704
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 10: have some better numbers out this season.

1705
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 2: Coyle needribro Gast talk in high school football. Kyle, It's

1706
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 2: interesting to me Rebuff certainly. You know, I was talking

1707
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 2: to doctor Why who was at the Bbuff North Central game,

1708
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 2: and he was telling me that the Rebuff, you know,

1709
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 2: their numbers were down. They didn't dress as many kids

1710
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 2: as they normally would are having years past. There was

1711
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 2: a narrative probably five to ten years ago that just

1712
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 2: the overall concussions in football, and I'm talking about at

1713
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 2: the professional level, that that was going to have that

1714
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 2: with the rise in popularity of soccer, that we were

1715
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:29,839
Speaker 2: going to start to see a decrease in participation numbers

1716
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 2: in football because fewer kids were playing it, and the

1717
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 2: NFL was you know then doing like the flag football

1718
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:38,879
Speaker 2: deal or touch football and just trying to keep kids involved.

1719
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 2: Have we seen an actual decrease in numbers or is

1720
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:44,759
Speaker 2: it kind of case by case.

1721
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 10: I don't think so. I mean I would. I know,

1722
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,559
Speaker 10: the National Federation puts out numbers, and they put them

1723
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 10: out recently. I can't remember what the eleven man football

1724
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 10: numbers were, you know, but it seems like the conversations

1725
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 10: that you're talking about, I definitely it wrote a couple

1726
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:04,680
Speaker 10: of stories around that time where the concussion issue was

1727
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 10: definitely a real thing and it was worrisome. And I

1728
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 10: think you're right on the timeframe. It seems like it

1729
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 10: was about five years ago or a little bit more

1730
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 10: where it was it seemed like it was going to

1731
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 10: be a real issue at the high school level.

1732
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 3: I know.

1733
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:18,719
Speaker 10: You know that was around the time too where the

1734
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 10: kind of the rugby style tackling was becoming more popular,

1735
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:25,640
Speaker 10: kind of started with the Seahawks and some other programs

1736
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 10: were kind of implementing that, and that's become more common.

1737
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:31,719
Speaker 10: And then I think it's a lot of the biggest

1738
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 10: difference I see or when I talk to coaches, like,

1739
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 10: you know, we just don't hit like we used to,

1740
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 10: and we're not We're trying to be smart about how

1741
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 10: much we're doing in practices, and I think that's become

1742
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 10: just way more commonplace where you know, you're not going

1743
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 10: you know, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and you're just you're

1744
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 10: just locking heads and you know, kind of like we

1745
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 10: used to do. I mean, that was kind of the

1746
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 10: way you just did it for years, and I think

1747
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 10: coaches have become smarter to that where you're you're just

1748
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 10: not doing that, You're not going you know, all out

1749
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 10: all every practice and and so I think that has

1750
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 10: helped too, I think. And also the the the the

1751
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 10: the caps that they wear and the different helmet styles

1752
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:09,760
Speaker 10: have helped. And a lot of the equipment stuff is

1753
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 10: has helped, I think too. So I think it's alleviated

1754
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 10: some of those you're always going to have, you know,

1755
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 10: football issues with injuries and things like that, but I

1756
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,719
Speaker 10: haven't you know, I think the numbers have been helped

1757
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 10: because people are more comfortable with the you know, the

1758
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 10: equipment and just practicing smarter and you know, doing things

1759
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 10: to kind of help the game along. I really worried

1760
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 10: there for a while where it was all headed with football.

1761
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 10: You know, I'm a big believer in in you know,

1762
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 10: football is great for a school and for young men

1763
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 10: to be part of, and you know, any sport really,

1764
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 10: but you know, I think football is great, and I

1765
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 10: was worried it was where it was going, and that

1766
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 10: it feels like we're on better footing now than we were.

1767
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 10: And it's kind of case by case, I think, with

1768
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 10: different schools, depending on you know, just kind of your

1769
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 10: your program maybe or the people running your program, or

1770
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 10: you know, kind of the economics or whatever your program

1771
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 10: is where it's at. But I do feel like that

1772
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 10: concern with concussions is kind of you know, it's not

1773
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 10: something you hear a lot that much anymore.

1774
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to in conclusion here a couple of

1775
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 2: my like, you know, each year I adopted school, right

1776
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, it was Beach Grove. They

1777
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 2: got a big win right last Friday.

1778
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 10: Yeah, they did a huge win. They beat Greenfield Central.

1779
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 10: That was that was one of the big I think

1780
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 10: surprises of the night. Yeah, they handled them twenty eight

1781
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 10: to nine.

1782
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 2: A young team for Beach Grove, as I understand, So

1783
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 2: that's a good win for them. Short Ridge is one

1784
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 2: that I have paid attention to in years past. What

1785
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:41,679
Speaker 2: did short Ridge do do we know or what they're

1786
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 2: doing tonight?

1787
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, they lost, They lost a close one to Purdue

1788
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 10: PAULI for Due PAULI had a kid get six and

1789
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 10: a half sacks in that game, which is, uh, you know,

1790
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 10: he's going to break I say, he's going to break

1791
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 10: all the records, Lawrence Taylor didn't you know, he's gonna

1792
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 10: break all if he keeps that pace up, he's going

1793
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 10: to be, you know, setting some records. So but yeah,

1794
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:03,640
Speaker 10: they shortage loss to Produe paul the six to.

1795
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 2: Zero, okay, and then so they shut them out with

1796
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 2: six and a half sex I guess you should. And

1797
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 2: then my Crystal House. Now tonight Crystal House, they were

1798
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 2: on the short end. I realized this is a group

1799
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 2: that you talked about that's been working hard and they're

1800
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:19,719
Speaker 2: you know, kind of putting it together. A program there

1801
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 2: they take on Noblesville Home School. Now, I don't know

1802
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 2: if that means it's like five kids that live in

1803
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:29,520
Speaker 2: Noblesville that are homeschooled, or if this is a conglomerate

1804
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 2: of homeschooled kids that then happened to play in Noblesville

1805
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 2: but come from all over. But either way, Crystal House

1806
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 2: tonight trying to snap the skid.

1807
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 10: Right, Yeah, that team. A few years ago, I went

1808
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 10: out and did a story on that homeschool team. They're

1809
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 10: the Noblesville Homeschool Lions and they play you know, they've

1810
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:49,759
Speaker 10: been around for a while, so it's kind of an interesting,

1811
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:53,560
Speaker 10: you know situation is homeschool kids and they play a

1812
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 10: lot of kind of the smaller I say schools and

1813
01:25:57,120 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 10: then you know, play some other homeschool teams. I think

1814
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 10: they played a team from a different state in their

1815
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 10: first game. So yeah, they've been around for a little while,

1816
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:06,680
Speaker 10: and they, like I said, they play some you know,

1817
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 10: kind of a mixed schedule. But yeah, the Crystal House

1818
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 10: will play them tonight. I think that game is at

1819
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 10: Crystal House, so that that'll be, uh, that'll be an

1820
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 10: interesting game tonight. And you know, hopefully they can I

1821
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 10: know they had a rough first week, but again, yeah,

1822
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 10: like you said, they're kind of rebuilding a little bit,

1823
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 10: and uh, you know, it's it's hard to build a

1824
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 10: football program, but uh, you know, hopefully they can get

1825
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 10: things going there.

1826
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 2: All right, Kyle, we will talk to you next week.

1827
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 2: We'll recap what happens this week, and we'll find out

1828
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 2: what's on the docket in terms of other games or

1829
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 2: players or six and a half sack performances that you're

1830
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 2: keeping an eye on.

1831
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 10: Absolutely appreciate you having on Jake.

1832
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 2: Kyle Nedrip from the Indianapolis Star. By the way, Taylor Tannebom,

1833
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 2: we talked about Notre Dame and getting underway against Miami

1834
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:53,720
Speaker 2: and the acc Slady games. She's going to join us

1835
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 2: coming up two o'clock hour. We will get into that.

1836
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 2: But when we come back what we talked about off

1837
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 2: the very top. Two things here kicking us off in

1838
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 2: the weekend in sports, and a show announcement regarding Monday.

1839
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 2: We'll tell you about it next. What is it chili

1840
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 2: in here? Or is it just me? I know it

1841
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 2: like outside, it's a little bit chilly.

1842
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 8: Right, It is a little nippy in here.

1843
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, Right, all of a sudden, I was like, wait,

1844
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 2: what happened here? It feels a bit chilly? Did you

1845
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 2: turn up the thermostat down? What if you turn up

1846
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 2: or turn down? You turn down the thermostat? Right, if

1847
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:28,600
Speaker 2: the temperature goes down, it's down, right. We don't have

1848
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 2: a thermostat in this room though, Right we're at the

1849
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 2: mercy of Okay, that's a good question. Colts in action

1850
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:40,839
Speaker 2: coming up a week from Sunday against the Miami Dolphins.

1851
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 2: This is the time of year where, in fact, hope

1852
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:46,560
Speaker 2: springs eternal, if you will, there's all kinds of optimism

1853
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:50,679
Speaker 2: for everybody league wide. Here would be a question, Eddie,

1854
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 2: and that is what fan base feels the worst about

1855
01:27:56,320 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 2: themselves right now. New Orleans Saints US zero hesitation with

1856
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 2: that answer, I mean none, zero, Right, what do you.

1857
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 8: Have to look forward to? I mean it's Tyler Shuck

1858
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 8: and Spencer Ratler for crying out out.

1859
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 2: Like Tyler would say that again, Tyler Shuck. Spencer Rattler

1860
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 2: I watched in college and he's actually kind of a

1861
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 2: gritty dude. He'll drive you nuts. Tyler Shuck. I will

1862
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 2: admit I'm not as familiar with Can we play our

1863
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 2: favorite game? Okay, guess the college I know exactly who

1864
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 2: he went to college? Was not even looking. Did you

1865
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 2: watch him in college?

1866
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 8: Yes?

1867
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:35,640
Speaker 2: Did I watch him in college? Should I let me

1868
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 2: ask you this? Should I know? This? Is this the

1869
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 2: kind of thing where you're going to leave and say

1870
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 2: to like Atticus, what do you see him in the hallway?

1871
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 2: Can you believe the query did not know where Tyler

1872
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:42,799
Speaker 2: Schuck went to college?

1873
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 8: Well, I figured you would know because he faced a

1874
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:49,639
Speaker 8: Indiana school last year. I'm pretty certain of it.

1875
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 2: So he is a rookie, yes, okay, on a one

1876
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 2: to ten scale. This is how agreed, Just that I

1877
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 2: don't know this off the top of my head, and

1878
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be offended. Six seven first guess then?

1879
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 2: Is it a big ten school? No? Huh no? All right?

1880
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 2: Hit me. He went to Louisville, Okay, I should have

1881
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 2: known that. Yeah, bron was a big believer and.

1882
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 8: I'm right played against Notre Dame.

1883
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 2: That's right. I should have known that. Did he play

1884
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 2: his whole career at Louisville or was he a transfer in?

1885
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 8: No, he was one of those uh like six year guys.

1886
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I thought. Like he's twenty five. Where

1887
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 2: did he begin his college career? Oregon? Okay? I probably

1888
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 2: should have known that too, right.

1889
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 8: And went to Texas Tech.

1890
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 2: I mean it's kind of ridiculous now, right he.

1891
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 8: Was at each of those schools for two years and

1892
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 8: then Louisville this past year.

1893
01:29:56,520 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I'm still maintaining oh sorry, three years

1894
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 2: Texas Tech. So if I was, this is exactly how

1895
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 2: I would do it. I've mentioned this before. If I

1896
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,719
Speaker 2: was a college football recruit, I say the same for basketball.

1897
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 2: If I was a quarterback. I'm the number one quarterback

1898
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 2: in the country. I'm a number one recruit, and I

1899
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 2: got a lot of respect for the way arch Banding

1900
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:18,600
Speaker 2: did it. Look, I'm gonna go to Texas if I

1901
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 2: gotta sit, I gotta sit. And you know here he

1902
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 2: is now the keys to the kingdom or his. But

1903
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:29,720
Speaker 2: I would be my freshman year, give me Eddie a

1904
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:33,640
Speaker 2: school that is a five hundred or slightly better, but

1905
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 2: you've got the impression they've got big time, nil money

1906
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:41,479
Speaker 2: and boosters with no morals. Pitt. Okay, I would have

1907
01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:43,800
Speaker 2: thought more like a like Mississippi State, But I'll go

1908
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:46,080
Speaker 2: with Pitt. So my freshman year I go to Pitt.

1909
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 2: I take all the money I can. Sophomore year, I

1910
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 2: throw my name in the transfer portal, and then I

1911
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 2: get Pitt to basically give me a money pit and

1912
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 2: give me even more up the anti baby. But I

1913
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:03,720
Speaker 2: stay at Pitt junior year. I then transfer to the

1914
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 2: school that needs an experienced quarterback to put them over

1915
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:10,640
Speaker 2: the top. So in my junior year, I'm off to

1916
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 2: Syracuse or n C State. And then my senior year,

1917
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:17,760
Speaker 2: I've now gone through summer school and other such things

1918
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 2: that I have enough credits. I'm really close to graduating

1919
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 2: my senior year. I've said this before one hundred times.

1920
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 2: I would do this in basketball. I'll do the same

1921
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:29,480
Speaker 2: with football. My senior year, I take my college experience

1922
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 2: and I transfer to either Notre Dame, Stanford, Duke, or Harvard.

1923
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 2: And I say, you owe me zero dollars, but you're

1924
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 2: taking every one of my credits. And I'm graduating from

1925
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 2: your school. And I know people will tell me that

1926
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,840
Speaker 2: academically speaking, you can't do that, or schools wouldn't do

1927
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 2: it that way, and I got news for you guarantee

1928
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 2: they would.

1929
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 8: And I disagree with you, especially those ivy leaguers you're

1930
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 8: being You're kidding, right, No, I'm not kidding. I mean,

1931
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 8: I mean maybe Harvard or but but Stanford or Notre Dame.

1932
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 8: I mean it's apples and oranges here. But I know

1933
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 8: of someone who just graduated from Rose Holman and nobody

1934
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:15,600
Speaker 8: can transfer there because of prew presidents in classes and

1935
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 8: those things understood Rose Holman understood Rose holmand Yale, any

1936
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:21,440
Speaker 8: of those understood.

1937
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 2: But at the same time, as Stanford, do you believe

1938
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:27,679
Speaker 2: that every player that plays football at Stanford or basketball

1939
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 2: at Stanford would normally have been accepted academically out of

1940
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:36,679
Speaker 2: high school? I think zero chance, not to zero chance,

1941
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 2: But you still have to have some sort of a

1942
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 2: baseline understood, understood. I'm just telling you that, but that

1943
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:47,680
Speaker 2: that's the negotiating that I'm doing. That's the way that

1944
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 2: I'm negotiating it. We'll get into, by the way, something

1945
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:55,559
Speaker 2: happening tonight in a show announcement. Next a couple of

1946
01:32:55,840 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 2: house cleaning notes here. Number one, Monday is day and

1947
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 2: we will not have a show on Monday. As a

1948
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 2: matter of fact, the entire station will be off on Monday,

1949
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 2: so we will resume with you on Tuesday. Certainly hope

1950
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 2: that everybody enjoys the three day weekend and whether it

1951
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:18,200
Speaker 2: be cookouts, family time, whatever you may be doing, we

1952
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:22,439
Speaker 2: certainly wish you the best in that. Number two, this

1953
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 2: is we mentioned it yesterday, but it is officially today. Eddie.

1954
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 2: You I believe sent a text which is greatly appreciative.

1955
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 2: But happy birthday to Shannon.

1956
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 8: Yes, yes to your lovely girlfriend for the last what

1957
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:35,879
Speaker 8: nineteen years?

1958
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 2: I think twenty. We always forget there was one year

1959
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 2: we celebrated twice. We were like, I think it's fifteen.

1960
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 2: Maybe that was last year is fifteen. So one of

1961
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 2: the years we thought it was our fifteenth anniversary on

1962
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 2: two different occasions. So I think it's twenty. It is twenty.

1963
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 8: Actually, she didn't complain about Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift

1964
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 8: getting engaged before.

1965
01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 2: Her, No, she was happy for them. Good for her,

1966
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:05,160
Speaker 2: that's right. But happy birthday to Shannon. Also, the Colt's

1967
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:07,160
Speaker 2: getting underway a week from Sunday. You know, I thought

1968
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 2: about this yesterday. This time of year, there's a lot

1969
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 2: of nostalgia that takes place with the start of the

1970
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 2: NFL season and just the fall in general for me,

1971
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 2: because you think about all of the years that, especially

1972
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:29,599
Speaker 2: in college football, where you know you every year. I

1973
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,680
Speaker 2: love summer. I mean I absolutely love it, and it

1974
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 2: is fascinating how the body and the mind both condition

1975
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:42,519
Speaker 2: you for seasonal change. So as much as I love

1976
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:48,640
Speaker 2: the summer and always long for and every year in

1977
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 2: the summer, I think to myself, this is the year

1978
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 2: I'm really going to take advantage of the summer and

1979
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 2: make sure that we eat outside more and you know,

1980
01:34:57,240 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 2: take walks on the mona and you know, whatever it

1981
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 2: may be. And then things get in the way, and

1982
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:03,760
Speaker 2: life gets in the way and you get busy, and

1983
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 2: before you know it, you think, gosh, where did the

1984
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:10,839
Speaker 2: summer go? But once it starts to wind down, little

1985
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:14,720
Speaker 2: things happen that then awaken in you the longing for

1986
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 2: or the excitement for the next season. And I do

1987
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 2: I start thinking about, like, oh, the you know, the

1988
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:23,840
Speaker 2: fun of haunted houses in the fall and then into

1989
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:28,920
Speaker 2: Christmas and you know it all everything moving through as

1990
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:31,639
Speaker 2: you wind out of summer, and that's where we are now,

1991
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:36,599
Speaker 2: because you know, school's underway and football's back. And then,

1992
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:38,720
Speaker 2: as I always say, with the NFL, you snap your

1993
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 2: fingers and before you know it, you go from.

1994
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 8: Week one to week eleven and then it's missus, query's

1995
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 8: what leaves PSA that is around the corner?

1996
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:48,639
Speaker 2: One would assume, right, we're probably a month away from

1997
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 2: my mom's famous wet leaves PSA. Thank you any for that,

1998
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 2: because she will be on it. Trust me, I look

1999
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,120
Speaker 2: forward to it every year. But I thought about this.

2000
01:35:57,320 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 8: It was a toxic mixture of last year, Why do

2001
01:35:59,320 --> 01:35:59,840
Speaker 8: we get this year?

2002
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 2: Are toxic? She says, it's very dangerous, the wet leaves.

2003
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 2: I thought about this though on the way in for

2004
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 2: years when the Colts roster would be complete, and you

2005
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 2: would see those battles and anticipate those things for you know,

2006
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 2: the fifty third spot from the start of training camp.

2007
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:27,000
Speaker 2: I always got a kick out of and I always enjoyed,

2008
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 2: you know, those stories of the undrafted, you know, the

2009
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:35,719
Speaker 2: Gary Brackett stories. And it does seem a bit surreal

2010
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 2: to know that this is the first year. To my

2011
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 2: not the first year, and I know that he wasn't

2012
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 2: around it from a work standpoint per se, but but

2013
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:51,160
Speaker 2: physically speaking, this is the first year that you have

2014
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:54,599
Speaker 2: a Colts camp going into it and preseason games where

2015
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 2: Jersey Johnny was not here, and Jersey Johnny john Samasco

2016
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:05,559
Speaker 2: live for the Colts, and you know that he was

2017
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 2: such a lovable guy, and at times his eccentricities made

2018
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:12,960
Speaker 2: him almost a lovable character truth be told. But at

2019
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:15,120
Speaker 2: the same time, I don't think anybody in the local

2020
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 2: media could deny Jersey Johnny's love and passion for that

2021
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 2: franchise and for that team, and he was so invested,

2022
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:29,120
Speaker 2: both emotionally and work wise. I'man a guy that moved

2023
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 2: from the East Coast to Indianapolis just because of his

2024
01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:35,559
Speaker 2: love for the Colts and then stayed here and found

2025
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:39,840
Speaker 2: his way into a radio show and as a fan

2026
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 2: and became a trusted and knowledgeable voice about the Colts.

2027
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:51,439
Speaker 2: And I think it's disingenuous when people pass away, when

2028
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 2: you say to yourself, like I think of him every day.

2029
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 2: I mean, life gets busy, but there are times with

2030
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:02,240
Speaker 2: people who leave a mark or leave a legacy where

2031
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:05,439
Speaker 2: there are reminders of them. And this time of year

2032
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 2: for that to me is Jersey Johnny. And Jersey is

2033
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:11,840
Speaker 2: not a guy that I hung out with or you know,

2034
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:13,720
Speaker 2: but we were obviously very friendly and I had a

2035
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 2: lot of respect for him. But he offered me the

2036
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:21,920
Speaker 2: very first chance for me to do a radio show.

2037
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 2: I sat in with him as a guest host after

2038
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:29,360
Speaker 2: winning a contest many many years ago, and I never

2039
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 2: forgot that. But I also just had such an appreciation

2040
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:37,880
Speaker 2: for his knowledge of the underdog on the roster, which

2041
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:41,880
Speaker 2: was probably fitting. And in addition to that, when I

2042
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:44,200
Speaker 2: talk about the things when you turn the calendar and

2043
01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 2: move it forward, I think about the radiothon with our

2044
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:51,559
Speaker 2: friends at WIBC and the Salvation Army, and Jurors was

2045
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:55,880
Speaker 2: the guy that you always knew would cover whatever shift

2046
01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 2: and whatever was needed to help out the less fortunate

2047
01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 2: during the holidays. And just when I think about the

2048
01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 2: fact the year is getting underway for the NFL season,

2049
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 2: I thought of Jurors, and then I thought of just

2050
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:11,560
Speaker 2: the fact that so many people and Jim Mersay obviously

2051
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:14,080
Speaker 2: is there are going to be plenty of tributes to

2052
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:16,680
Speaker 2: Jim Mersay this year as well, understandably and rightly so.

2053
01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:20,799
Speaker 2: But for so many people in this town with whatever

2054
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 2: your favorite team might be, whether it's Indiana, whether it's Purdue,

2055
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 2: whether it's Notre Dame, whether it's Ben Davis High School,

2056
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:31,320
Speaker 2: or it's the Colts, or maybe it's the Lions, or

2057
01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:33,639
Speaker 2: the Steelers or the Buccaneers, you know, whatever it might be.

2058
01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:40,800
Speaker 2: But sports are for so many people a bonding experience

2059
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:44,240
Speaker 2: of family and friends to get together and watch games.

2060
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:49,880
Speaker 2: And I would assume that the vast majority of people

2061
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:55,799
Speaker 2: right now that are listening to my voice are starting

2062
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 2: out this year in football without someone that they have

2063
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 2: for the better part of their lives. Enjoyed games with

2064
01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 2: because they've lost that person since the end of last season.

2065
01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 2: And so while we talk about the fun and the

2066
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 2: joy and the spirit of sport, I think part of

2067
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:15,840
Speaker 2: the spirit of sport also is the camaraderie that comes

2068
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 2: with it. And so if you are somebody who has

2069
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:25,960
Speaker 2: a loved one, a friend, a coworker, a competitor that

2070
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:28,479
Speaker 2: you think of when you think of the football season,

2071
01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:32,280
Speaker 2: I would simply ask that you think of them right

2072
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:34,840
Speaker 2: now and just give a little smile and a nod,

2073
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:38,240
Speaker 2: knowing that, yes, in physical spirit, they might not be

2074
01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:41,640
Speaker 2: here with you. But that's what this is all about.

2075
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:44,160
Speaker 2: And as we get ready to embark on another season,

2076
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:46,720
Speaker 2: just know that you get to embark on it with

2077
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:49,840
Speaker 2: those people that you loved, just in a different sense

2078
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:53,240
Speaker 2: of the word. And that's what the whole thing is

2079
01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:56,759
Speaker 2: all about. And for the Colts and the upcoming season

2080
01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 2: against Miami, I don't know how good they're going to be.

2081
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:01,719
Speaker 2: I personally think, Eddie that the Colts might be better

2082
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:04,880
Speaker 2: than what prognosticators say. I think they're going to go

2083
01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:07,800
Speaker 2: ten and seven. The problem is with going ten and

2084
01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:11,000
Speaker 2: seven is that that kind of puts them in the

2085
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:15,400
Speaker 2: same category that's difficult to get out of, you know

2086
01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:19,920
Speaker 2: what I mean, yes, and I think Jake, I don't

2087
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:21,479
Speaker 2: know if you feel this way. In order for them

2088
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 2: to go ten and seven, almost everything has to go

2089
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:27,679
Speaker 2: their way, like injuries, health, all that stuff. Like let's

2090
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:30,439
Speaker 2: say they face I don't know, pick a random opponent.

2091
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:34,000
Speaker 2: You know, they they face San Francisco later in the year,

2092
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:37,240
Speaker 2: and you know, Christian McCaffrey's heard again and somehow brock

2093
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:39,680
Speaker 2: Purty's heart. They've had years like that where everything went

2094
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:43,160
Speaker 2: their way in that regard, right, Yeah, where like all

2095
01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:45,040
Speaker 2: of us. I mean, you look at the schedule and

2096
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 2: you say, okay, Tua and bo Nicks and cam Ward

2097
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:53,760
Speaker 2: and Stafford and Geno Smith. You don't never, you don't know. Yeah,

2098
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:56,040
Speaker 2: who's who is? Here's a good one for it. Who

2099
01:41:56,080 --> 01:42:00,200
Speaker 2: is Arizona's backup quarterback? If you had to get yes,

2100
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:01,599
Speaker 2: I don't even know if you had to guess, who's

2101
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:04,640
Speaker 2: arizona His backup quarterback, Clayton Tune, is that who it is?

2102
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:06,720
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's my guess. I'm gonna go with

2103
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:12,800
Speaker 2: all the mccowns I believe now are retired. Fitzpatrick's retired

2104
01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:20,000
Speaker 2: Menshew is in Kansas City, right, Carson Wentz is now

2105
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:24,479
Speaker 2: in Minnesota. Yep. So we're running out of like the

2106
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 2: career backups that just bounce around from one team to

2107
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 2: the next.

2108
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 7: Mmm.

2109
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 2: I just looked Kenny Pickett in his widow hands got traded.

2110
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:36,040
Speaker 2: He's with the Raiders now right. That happened during her draft.

2111
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:38,760
Speaker 8: I happened during the fantasy draft Monday night.

2112
01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:47,240
Speaker 2: Okay, so you have a backup quarterback for the Cardinals that, like,

2113
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:50,280
Speaker 2: if Kyler Murray's not doing well in October twelfth, this

2114
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:52,400
Speaker 2: guy's gonna play. Let me ask you this, Eddie. Is

2115
01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:55,000
Speaker 2: this a guy that has experienced in the league? Yes?

2116
01:42:56,080 --> 01:42:58,639
Speaker 2: Is it a guy that at one time was handed

2117
01:42:58,640 --> 01:43:12,400
Speaker 2: the keys to a franchise? Maybe what college did said

2118
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:15,400
Speaker 2: player play from?

2119
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:16,519
Speaker 8: I can't even remember.

2120
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 2: All right, so here we go. I'm just gonna take

2121
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:24,960
Speaker 2: my guest right here. No Carolina State. Oh it's okay,

2122
01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:27,880
Speaker 2: hold on, it's yeah. Carolina State at one time, by

2123
01:43:27,880 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 2: the way, had like five players that were starting. You

2124
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:33,120
Speaker 2: realize that, right, Carolina State at one time had I

2125
01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:36,400
Speaker 2: believe five different players starting at the same time in

2126
01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:39,960
Speaker 2: the NFL, but they had one. Is this guy? Is

2127
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:42,880
Speaker 2: he a tall player. Carolina State had a really good

2128
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:46,120
Speaker 2: quarterback about five years ago, ten years ago that was

2129
01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:50,800
Speaker 2: a and he was given opportunity as a starter for

2130
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:52,320
Speaker 2: like a year in San Francisco.

2131
01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:55,960
Speaker 8: I think he is six foot four. Go ahead and

2132
01:43:56,000 --> 01:44:00,880
Speaker 8: hit me he would be welcomed and open arms here

2133
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Speaker 8: in Indianapolis to Kobe Brissette.

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Speaker 2: Really m hm okay, I would not have guessed Jacoby

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01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:11,040
Speaker 2: Brissett should have done that right away.

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01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:13,240
Speaker 8: And I said maybe to the franchise part of it

2137
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:17,360
Speaker 8: because he was given the opportunity right after the whole

2138
01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:18,200
Speaker 8: angel like situation.

2139
01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:20,160
Speaker 2: Should I know about Jacoby Brissett? What I know about

2140
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:23,439
Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett was I played in a charity basketball game

2141
01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:26,760
Speaker 2: with him during Summer Expo a couple of years ago.

2142
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:30,400
Speaker 2: The ampiis Reggie Wayne game and I was on the

2143
01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:33,040
Speaker 2: same team as Jacoby Brissett. And he is a pretty

2144
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:37,439
Speaker 2: good basketball player. But unlike the football field, he did

2145
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:41,920
Speaker 2: not throw a single pass. He shot. Literally, Jacoby Brissett

2146
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:45,800
Speaker 2: was like pulling up from everywhere. I mean that dude

2147
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:47,479
Speaker 2: did not, let me tell you something. He did not

2148
01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 2: meet a single shot. He didn't like. It was all

2149
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:53,600
Speaker 2: over the place. But he was a good player. He was.

2150
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 2: He was a good basketball player, probably a better basketball

2151
01:44:55,960 --> 01:44:59,400
Speaker 2: player than football, not literally, But who's the dude I'm

2152
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:05,200
Speaker 2: thinking up from Carolina State like this has probably been Glennon,

2153
01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:08,479
Speaker 2: Mike Glennon or John Glennon, something like that. I think

2154
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:11,360
Speaker 2: you're thinking of Mike Glennon with the long neck. Yes,

2155
01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:13,719
Speaker 2: like a he was like a giraffe, right, Mike Glennon.

2156
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:16,760
Speaker 2: That was probably like ten years ago, right, Yes, I

2157
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:18,759
Speaker 2: think I told you the story one year that Clemson

2158
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:20,760
Speaker 2: got up to eight in the BCS rankings. I was

2159
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:23,360
Speaker 2: super excited. I was doing the show with Derek at

2160
01:45:23,439 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 2: seven o'clock and I just said, you know what, I'm

2161
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:27,080
Speaker 2: going to go to the Clemson game. They were playing

2162
01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 2: at North Carolina State, a Saturday game, three o'clock start.

2163
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:33,639
Speaker 2: I drove through the night. I wore all purple and orange.

2164
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:36,240
Speaker 2: I went and visited a bunch of stuff on Tobacco

2165
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 2: Road and then drove over to Raleigh. I got there

2166
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 2: a little bit late for the game. I walked in

2167
01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:42,679
Speaker 2: midway through the first quarter and Clemson was down twenty

2168
01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:45,080
Speaker 2: three to nothing, and I had driven six hundred and

2169
01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 2: forty eight miles. And all I can tell you is

2170
01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 2: that the couple next to me were so stunned and

2171
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:53,960
Speaker 2: empathetic over my journey that they actually invited me to

2172
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:57,080
Speaker 2: stay at their house. Now, where are you staying on

2173
01:45:57,120 --> 01:46:00,240
Speaker 2: your way back? Well, I'm just probably going drives. That's

2174
01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 2: a long drive and very dangerous. You should just we

2175
01:46:03,320 --> 01:46:07,960
Speaker 2: got an extra room. It was literally like the guy

2176
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:10,599
Speaker 2: from Cracker Barrel that they just brought back and his wife,

2177
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:13,640
Speaker 2: Taylor Tannebomb joins us now and I'm sure thrilled to

2178
01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:16,800
Speaker 2: be doing so. She is with the ACC Network, Clemson,

2179
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:20,200
Speaker 2: LSU Big One, Notre Dame, Miami Big One. Yes, Eddie Jake.

2180
01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:22,840
Speaker 8: When I was talking with Taylor to make sure she's

2181
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:25,320
Speaker 8: all good to go, she goes, why in the hell

2182
01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:29,040
Speaker 8: is Jake screaming about Jacoby Brissett right now?

2183
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:30,439
Speaker 3: Why not?

2184
01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:34,519
Speaker 11: So much changes but nothing changes in Indianapolis at the

2185
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 11: same time, You.

2186
01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:35,639
Speaker 7: Know what I mean?

2187
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:38,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, why not talk about Jacoby Brissette? Right?

2188
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:40,639
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm always down board a SEC guy.

2189
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:43,280
Speaker 2: We love that Jacoby Brissett, Like I said, so, he's

2190
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:45,840
Speaker 2: the j R. Smith of Charity Basketball. Correct. I played

2191
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:49,880
Speaker 2: in a game with him and literally, if Jacoby Brissett

2192
01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:51,760
Speaker 2: touched the ball and nobody else was getting it. That

2193
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:55,599
Speaker 2: dude shot from everywhere. All right, Taylor, I will lead

2194
01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:58,759
Speaker 2: it with this, Taylor, tannebomb, I will let you select

2195
01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:01,639
Speaker 2: Clemson LSU. Know today Miami, you would like to begin

2196
01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:03,120
Speaker 2: by conversing about which.

2197
01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:07,400
Speaker 11: Game, Well, we can start with LSU Clemson, considering. I

2198
01:47:07,479 --> 01:47:10,519
Speaker 11: am in Seneca right now, on my way to campus

2199
01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:12,479
Speaker 11: because we've got some television to do in a little bit,

2200
01:47:12,479 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 11: so let's start there.

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01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:16,439
Speaker 2: Jake, I love Taylor. When you drive now, I don't

2202
01:47:16,439 --> 01:47:18,559
Speaker 2: know if you're if you're taking this path in the.

2203
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:21,000
Speaker 11: Passenger seat, full disclosure, I'm not driving.

2204
01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:24,280
Speaker 2: It's okay, no, understood, and appreciate it. When you drive

2205
01:47:24,439 --> 01:47:27,720
Speaker 2: into Clemson, South Carolina, and I don't know if it's

2206
01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:29,760
Speaker 2: the route from Seneca, but I love when you get

2207
01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:32,280
Speaker 2: about five miles out and then suddenly the orange paw

2208
01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 2: prints are painted in the middle of the road on

2209
01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:36,760
Speaker 2: the interstate. Love it, Love everything about it.

2210
01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:39,439
Speaker 12: It's the best lake views. What could be better?

2211
01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:44,839
Speaker 11: A beautiful day on the eve of some great college football.

2212
01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:50,120
Speaker 2: Okay, that game, you know. It is my thought and

2213
01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:54,040
Speaker 2: belief that while it would be fabulous if Clemson wins it,

2214
01:47:54,520 --> 01:47:56,920
Speaker 2: I think that if they were to stay tight with

2215
01:47:57,080 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 2: LSU and not going to win, they still would have

2216
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 2: opportunity because there's so much expectation of them to be

2217
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:04,640
Speaker 2: able to if they were to do what Notre Dame

2218
01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:07,559
Speaker 2: did a year ago lose to Northern Illinois early Taylor.

2219
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:09,080
Speaker 2: My point being, if you're going to lose a game

2220
01:48:09,120 --> 01:48:10,839
Speaker 2: and you're hoping to get in the College Football Playoff,

2221
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:13,479
Speaker 2: you can lose early and still have plenty of time

2222
01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:14,320
Speaker 2: to make up for it.

2223
01:48:14,360 --> 01:48:17,000
Speaker 1: Agree or disagree absolutely.

2224
01:48:17,160 --> 01:48:19,439
Speaker 11: I mean, for Clemson, this is the standard for them.

2225
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:21,240
Speaker 11: They open up with big games like that. You thought

2226
01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:23,679
Speaker 11: last year is the perfect blueprint. They lost to Georgia

2227
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:27,240
Speaker 11: big in that opener at Mercedes Benz Stadium, and then

2228
01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:29,960
Speaker 11: they lose a few more during the regular season, but

2229
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:32,320
Speaker 11: they win the ACC and their favor to do again

2230
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:37,080
Speaker 11: this year. So if they win the ACC despite losing tomorrow,

2231
01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 11: it's not a big deal because they get that auto

2232
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:42,080
Speaker 11: bid and they'll have some other opportunities along the way.

2233
01:48:42,680 --> 01:48:45,200
Speaker 11: But certainly this is one Clemson would like to have,

2234
01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:47,679
Speaker 11: and I think to the league in general, for the ACC,

2235
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:51,240
Speaker 11: it's a constant battle against the narrative of obviously being

2236
01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:52,960
Speaker 11: the little brother and you have the Big ten and

2237
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:55,280
Speaker 11: you have the SEC, and then there's this large gap

2238
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:58,559
Speaker 11: and there's the ACC You need your top teams in

2239
01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:01,640
Speaker 11: this league to be compar against the top teams and

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01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:04,639
Speaker 11: other leagues. So I think while Clemson and Miami could

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01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:07,120
Speaker 11: have fourd to lose because they're going up against top

2242
01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 11: ten opponents, for the narrative of this league, I think

2243
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:13,439
Speaker 11: those are the two most actually important games for them

2244
01:49:13,720 --> 01:49:14,160
Speaker 11: to win.

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01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:18,800
Speaker 2: Okay, for Notre Dame and taking on Miami. And you know,

2246
01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:21,240
Speaker 2: obviously we know that Marcus Freeman's group is going to

2247
01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:23,840
Speaker 2: be very very good quarterback question. I guess because you

2248
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:27,200
Speaker 2: have a new quarterback for Notre Dame. But Miami is

2249
01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:30,200
Speaker 2: a team Taylor that when you look at it on paper,

2250
01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 2: if you're Notre Dame, you look at it and you go, hey, listen,

2251
01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:34,400
Speaker 2: kudos to them. They start out with Miami, then they

2252
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:37,160
Speaker 2: got Texas A and m After that, they've got a

2253
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:39,680
Speaker 2: sneaky one I think against North Carolina State, which you

2254
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:42,639
Speaker 2: kind of never know. But let's begin with Miami. Because

2255
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:45,120
Speaker 2: they are Notre Dame fans listening to the show, we

2256
01:49:45,160 --> 01:49:48,040
Speaker 2: can expect to see what in terms of what kind

2257
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 2: of team they're going to see in Miami.

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01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:53,599
Speaker 11: Well, I think you can expect, certainly an offense that's

2259
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 11: going to be flashy, right. I know it's a new

2260
01:49:56,360 --> 01:49:57,960
Speaker 11: quarterback in Carson Beck.

2261
01:49:58,000 --> 01:49:58,920
Speaker 12: It is not Cam Wore.

2262
01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:02,680
Speaker 11: Do not expect to see the offscript heroics, magician like

2263
01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:05,120
Speaker 11: football that you got out of cam Ward. It's going

2264
01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 11: to be what Carson Beck is good at because that's

2265
01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:11,280
Speaker 11: how offensive coordinator Shannon Dawson Taylor's his offenses. And look,

2266
01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:12,960
Speaker 11: I know a lot of people are looking at Carson

2267
01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:14,920
Speaker 11: Beck like you had a down year in twenty four.

2268
01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 11: That twenty three Carson Beck is still in there. So

2269
01:50:18,360 --> 01:50:20,880
Speaker 11: I think you're going to see an offense that is

2270
01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:23,280
Speaker 11: going to score some points. I don't think that's necessarily

2271
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:25,519
Speaker 11: going to change. You have new pieces at the pass

2272
01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:28,960
Speaker 11: catcher position and in the backfield for sure, but the

2273
01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:33,560
Speaker 11: same standard is expected. I think it's going to be different. Defensively.

2274
01:50:33,680 --> 01:50:36,639
Speaker 11: They have a new defensive coordinator in Corey Heatherman, who

2275
01:50:36,680 --> 01:50:39,320
Speaker 11: comes from Minnesota, so if you're a Big Ten fan,

2276
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:41,240
Speaker 11: you might know a little bit about him and what

2277
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:44,080
Speaker 11: he did defensively for the Golden Gophers. They're hoping that

2278
01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:46,919
Speaker 11: translates down to Coral Gables. That was really Miami's achilles

2279
01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:51,200
Speaker 11: heel last year was Defensively, I do think their strong

2280
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 11: suit is up front and that defensive line, And I

2281
01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:56,040
Speaker 11: think if you're a Notre Dame fan, that's the battle

2282
01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:58,040
Speaker 11: you're going to be watching is in the trenches because

2283
01:50:58,080 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 11: both of these teams are built from the inside out

2284
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:05,200
Speaker 11: offensive and defensive lines, top tier recruits depth at both sides,

2285
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:09,280
Speaker 11: and for both Notre Dame and Miami. So I think

2286
01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:11,439
Speaker 11: you're going to expect to see if you're watching Miami,

2287
01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:15,200
Speaker 11: the normal high powered offense, you're going to get. Defensively, though,

2288
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:17,800
Speaker 11: I expect them to be more sound. I expect them

2289
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:21,040
Speaker 11: to be a little bit better at defending explosive plays.

2290
01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:24,479
Speaker 11: They were, I guess putting it lightly. They struggled in

2291
01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:28,040
Speaker 11: that area last year. So I don't know exactly what

2292
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:30,439
Speaker 11: you're going to get because obviously it's weak one, but

2293
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:32,320
Speaker 11: I do think defensively they'll be a little bit better.

2294
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:35,320
Speaker 11: But watch that defensive line, if anything, for the defense.

2295
01:51:35,080 --> 01:51:37,360
Speaker 2: When you go around. Taylor Tannebaum is our guest, of

2296
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:41,599
Speaker 2: course at the ACC Network, by way of WTHR Channel thirteen.

2297
01:51:41,600 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 2: Whence she was here in Indy, Taylor when you have

2298
01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:47,960
Speaker 2: gone around and talked to different ACC coaches in your

2299
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:50,719
Speaker 2: capacity and done the camps and all of the things

2300
01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:52,880
Speaker 2: that you've done. And I know that they are not

2301
01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:58,080
Speaker 2: by definition a charter ACC league school, but they played

2302
01:51:58,080 --> 01:52:03,720
Speaker 2: the ACC schedule. Been the outside South Bend read or

2303
01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:05,639
Speaker 2: perspectives regarding Notre Dame.

2304
01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:09,479
Speaker 11: That they're going to be good, and that last year

2305
01:52:09,560 --> 01:52:11,880
Speaker 11: for Marcus Freeman wasn't a fluke. He's built on every

2306
01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:14,400
Speaker 11: single year that he's been there, and I expect that

2307
01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:16,320
Speaker 11: to be the same every single year. I think you

2308
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:19,400
Speaker 11: get general consensus around the league they'd love for Notre

2309
01:52:19,439 --> 01:52:21,519
Speaker 11: Dame to join as a football school. They're part of

2310
01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:23,599
Speaker 11: the ACC and everything else, but I don't think that's

2311
01:52:23,640 --> 01:52:27,600
Speaker 11: going to happen. And I understand why money is certainly

2312
01:52:27,640 --> 01:52:30,519
Speaker 11: at the forefront of everybody's mind this day and age

2313
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:33,680
Speaker 11: in college athletics, but I think everybody expects when you

2314
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:36,720
Speaker 11: play Notre Dame, first of all, you circle that one

2315
01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:39,200
Speaker 11: on the calendar, because that's one when you're in the

2316
01:52:39,240 --> 01:52:42,160
Speaker 11: committee room they're going to be looking at because Notre

2317
01:52:42,240 --> 01:52:44,320
Speaker 11: Dame is one of the top tier teams in all

2318
01:52:44,360 --> 01:52:49,639
Speaker 11: of the land. The other part too, that is you know. Obviously,

2319
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:52,040
Speaker 11: if you're playing Notre Dame, your eyes are going to

2320
01:52:52,040 --> 01:52:54,120
Speaker 11: be in the spotlight. You're going to be in a

2321
01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:56,800
Speaker 11: nationally broadcast game. So it's important for the league in

2322
01:52:56,880 --> 01:53:00,679
Speaker 11: general to make sure that they compete against the Irish

2323
01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:02,400
Speaker 11: every single time they play. Even though it's a non

2324
01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:05,680
Speaker 11: con game, it's very much acc adjacent.

2325
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:08,360
Speaker 2: Taylor, what do you most miss about Indianapolis?

2326
01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:10,080
Speaker 4: Oh?

2327
01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:15,519
Speaker 11: My friends, you, the people, the summer and fall weather.

2328
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:19,240
Speaker 11: Those are my favorite things. I will get a little

2329
01:53:19,240 --> 01:53:20,720
Speaker 11: bit of that now that I live in Connecticut.

2330
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:22,479
Speaker 12: But I miss my people.

2331
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:25,280
Speaker 11: Man, I miss all of you, and and I'm getting

2332
01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:27,200
Speaker 11: to figure out who the Colts quarterback is going to

2333
01:53:27,200 --> 01:53:29,000
Speaker 11: be most importantly, by the way, have you know you

2334
01:53:29,000 --> 01:53:29,639
Speaker 11: who I don't miss?

2335
01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:30,519
Speaker 12: But I won't go there.

2336
01:53:32,720 --> 01:53:34,480
Speaker 11: Okay, that's an inside.

2337
01:53:34,200 --> 01:53:37,360
Speaker 2: Joke, that's right, have you uh? Just out of curiosity?

2338
01:53:37,400 --> 01:53:39,720
Speaker 2: Have you lived a winter yet in Connecticut? Or was

2339
01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:41,839
Speaker 2: it wind exactly? Did you move to Bristol?

2340
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:46,320
Speaker 11: I moved in January, so I lived half a winter. Yes,

2341
01:53:46,360 --> 01:53:48,599
Speaker 11: I did live winter, which was a really weird time

2342
01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:51,800
Speaker 11: to move. I would argue that Indianapolis is a harder

2343
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:53,720
Speaker 11: winter than the Northeast. But now that I say that

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01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 11: it'll probably snow one hundred inches.

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01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:58,320
Speaker 2: My understanding is Bristol, Connecticut in the like the middle

2346
01:53:58,360 --> 01:54:00,839
Speaker 2: of February, the sun sets at tooth already in the afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 11: Absolutely correct? And that's the hardest part. It's like you're

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Speaker 11: living in darkness at all times.

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Speaker 2: H Okay, here's my last thing. I just saw the

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01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:15,280
Speaker 2: other day, Tailor that one of the shelters here in

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01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:18,600
Speaker 2: Indianapolis was doing a you know, they were kind of

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01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:22,240
Speaker 2: a capacity for our little four legged friends. And I

2354
01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:24,559
Speaker 2: know a lot of people get worried about it because

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01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:27,120
Speaker 2: they think about like the nature of dangers of dogs

2356
01:54:27,160 --> 01:54:30,240
Speaker 2: and whatever else. You are a dog rescue mom, Mitch

2357
01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:32,920
Speaker 2: is the best. I wanted to give you thirty seconds

2358
01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:35,200
Speaker 2: to let people know that while they there is a

2359
01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:37,880
Speaker 2: stereotype and you certainly need to be understanding and do

2360
01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:40,080
Speaker 2: your homework, that rescue dogs are the best.

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01:54:41,600 --> 01:54:44,480
Speaker 11: I am a pit bull mom, and any dog that

2362
01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:47,120
Speaker 11: you look at at a breeder, I promise you was

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01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:50,840
Speaker 11: sitting in a shelter somewhere, and probably somewhere in Indianapolis

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01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:53,560
Speaker 11: or the Indiana area. So if you're looking for a

2365
01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:56,320
Speaker 11: specific breed, don't go to a breeder. Go to a shelter,

2366
01:54:56,360 --> 01:54:58,520
Speaker 11: because I promise you the love that you're looking for,

2367
01:54:59,560 --> 01:55:01,440
Speaker 11: you're going to fine there. They're going to change your life.

2368
01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:03,800
Speaker 11: You're not just going to change theirs. They're going to

2369
01:55:03,880 --> 01:55:06,600
Speaker 11: change your life because they are looking for a home

2370
01:55:06,680 --> 01:55:09,200
Speaker 11: and they need you. And I'm begging you. I'm pleading

2371
01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:11,640
Speaker 11: to Hamilton Humane is where I got my dog, Mitch.

2372
01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:17,040
Speaker 11: And I know you're a rescue guy too. Wonderful, easy process, seamless,

2373
01:55:17,120 --> 01:55:19,920
Speaker 11: and they will put you in the best position possible

2374
01:55:19,960 --> 01:55:21,760
Speaker 11: to make sure you have the best for a friend

2375
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Speaker 11: at home.

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01:55:22,600 --> 01:55:24,240
Speaker 2: How far are you from Clemson right now?

2377
01:55:25,320 --> 01:55:28,440
Speaker 11: We are in traffic on campus Actually, just past the

2378
01:55:28,640 --> 01:55:29,160
Speaker 11: Esso Club.

2379
01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:31,920
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I know exactly where you are. Mad

2380
01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:33,960
Speaker 2: Mushroom Pizza coming up on the left, and then if

2381
01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:35,920
Speaker 2: you hook another left, you can go to Tigertown Tavern.

2382
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:38,200
Speaker 2: I always get one beer before every game, but you

2383
01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:39,800
Speaker 2: can't do that if you want an honor.

2384
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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 11: No, here's the thing.

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Speaker 12: I'm off TV tomorrow by forty thirty. Game is until

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01:55:44,240 --> 01:55:45,760
Speaker 12: seven thirties, So I'm just.

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01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:49,120
Speaker 2: Saying go down to the Tigertown Tavern and get one

2389
01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:51,800
Speaker 2: beer and then there's like if you go around in

2390
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:54,200
Speaker 2: the back patio, there's a big tiger print on the wall.

2391
01:55:54,280 --> 01:55:56,280
Speaker 2: Shannon and I get our picture there when every time

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01:55:56,320 --> 01:55:59,000
Speaker 2: we're there. It's tradition like no other. It's the absolute best.

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Speaker 12: All right, I'll soun just so I'll send you some pictures.

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Speaker 2: All right. Much appreciated, Taylor and Joy.

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Speaker 12: Okay, appreciate your friend by Bhie.

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Speaker 2: Taylor, Tanneba. I'm joining us from the ACC Network. We

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Speaker 2: come back. It's a Friday. You know what that means.

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Speaker 2: special thanks last week for all of you who made

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Speaker 2: it possible to send Team Indiana and John to Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: Help out with that for the Special Olympics. Debbie Antonelli

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Speaker 2: all right. Every once in a while we talk about

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Speaker 2: high school sports that are just a little bit off

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01:57:57,760 --> 01:58:00,440
Speaker 2: the beaten path, and that involves my next one. I

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01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:02,240
Speaker 2: don't mean because of the sport. I mean because they

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01:58:02,280 --> 01:58:05,440
Speaker 2: literally went off their own beaten path. So joining us

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Speaker 2: now on the program. He is the athletic director at

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Speaker 2: Carroll High School. That's Fort Wayne Carroll for those of

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01:58:11,320 --> 01:58:14,520
Speaker 2: us in these parts. Dan Gender joins us after what

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01:58:14,600 --> 01:58:17,560
Speaker 2: has been a busy week but what turned out to

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Speaker 2: be a vision that then became a plan and then

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01:58:21,160 --> 01:58:25,520
Speaker 2: became perfection. Dan, thanks for joining us, How are you well?

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Speaker 9: Thanks for having us. We had an absolutely incredible night

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01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:34,160
Speaker 9: and we were just to celebrate Carroll High School, Homestead

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Speaker 9: High School out on the turf for something different.

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Speaker 7: It was awesome.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let's begin with this. What we're talking about

2443
01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:44,360
Speaker 2: is you guys just got done having a historic event,

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01:58:44,440 --> 01:58:48,040
Speaker 2: really the first ever outdoor volleyball match in the state

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01:58:48,080 --> 01:58:51,200
Speaker 2: of Indiana. And you did it right there on the

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Speaker 2: football field. And my first question for you is this,

2447
01:58:54,160 --> 01:58:56,600
Speaker 2: and that is, how in the world did somebody come

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01:58:56,680 --> 01:58:57,480
Speaker 2: up with that idea?

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Speaker 9: Well, we started the The idea obviously came from University

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01:59:03,440 --> 01:59:06,520
Speaker 9: of Bradon, University of Nebraska, and they did something a

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01:59:06,560 --> 01:59:08,760
Speaker 9: couple of years ago. And had ninety plus thousand out

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01:59:08,800 --> 01:59:12,720
Speaker 9: on their football field. And we started to dream a

2453
01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:15,520
Speaker 9: little bit then, and I never could pull it off.

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01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:19,120
Speaker 9: Didn't didn't have the resources to do it, didn't just

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01:59:19,120 --> 01:59:23,040
Speaker 9: just didn't pull the trigger. Then, this last summer, doctor Nelson,

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Speaker 9: which is part of our sports medicine provider Fort w

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01:59:26,240 --> 01:59:30,960
Speaker 9: Orthopedics and OPS, and my assistant Randy, we're talking this summer.

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01:59:31,000 --> 01:59:35,440
Speaker 9: Their daughters play together in the summer, and doctor Nelson said, Hey,

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01:59:35,720 --> 01:59:38,640
Speaker 9: what about this idea? And so Randy pitched it to

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01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:40,240
Speaker 9: me and I said, yeah, I wanted to do it

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01:59:40,520 --> 01:59:43,000
Speaker 9: a year ago. I never got it done. Let's do it.

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Speaker 9: So Doctor Nelson and I sat down and came up

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01:59:45,600 --> 01:59:48,720
Speaker 9: with a plan, and we decided to pull the trigger

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Speaker 9: and just make it happen.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to ask the dumbest question of all

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01:59:52,600 --> 01:59:56,120
Speaker 2: Dan You ready? Yeah? Uh, how does one get a

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01:59:56,240 --> 01:59:58,320
Speaker 2: volleyball court out onto a football field?

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Speaker 9: Well, they cut the they ship them. It's very normal

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Speaker 9: in the club world, every convention center that these girls

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Speaker 9: grow up playing on play on these mobile courts basically

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02:00:08,920 --> 02:00:11,600
Speaker 9: that are just large square plastic piece.

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02:00:11,680 --> 02:00:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that goes on to an already flattened surface.

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02:00:15,280 --> 02:00:17,040
Speaker 2: I would think, like on a football field. I know

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02:00:17,080 --> 02:00:20,640
Speaker 2: football field theoretically is flat, right, but but just the

2475
02:00:21,000 --> 02:00:23,800
Speaker 2: topography of it would be confusing to me. But then again,

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02:00:23,840 --> 02:00:28,160
Speaker 2: I flunked both geometry and uh, you know any science class.

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Speaker 9: You're you're exactly right. We did not put it directly

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02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:34,320
Speaker 9: onto the turf. That would have caused some There's enough

2479
02:00:34,360 --> 02:00:37,080
Speaker 9: funginess to the grass the turf that would make it

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02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:40,360
Speaker 9: a little bit difficult and dangerous. So we brought in

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02:00:40,440 --> 02:00:44,440
Speaker 9: an underlayment which we got from the Fort Wayneton Caps High,

2482
02:00:44,520 --> 02:00:47,760
Speaker 9: a single a team here in Fort Wayne that uses

2483
02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:50,640
Speaker 9: at their park for concerts and foot traffic and things

2484
02:00:50,640 --> 02:00:55,040
Speaker 9: in their field. They donated that to us, which allowed

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02:00:55,120 --> 02:00:57,240
Speaker 9: us to put that as an underlayment and the court

2486
02:00:57,320 --> 02:01:00,160
Speaker 9: on top of that. So it really felt like the

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02:01:00,240 --> 02:01:02,920
Speaker 9: court was sitting on top of a layer of semak.

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Speaker 2: So now let's get to this also. So you go

2489
02:01:07,560 --> 02:01:12,320
Speaker 2: ahead and you get the court laid out, then how

2490
02:01:12,400 --> 02:01:14,680
Speaker 2: long did you, I guess, go through the process of

2491
02:01:14,760 --> 02:01:17,360
Speaker 2: promoting this. Obviously both schools were aware of it, but

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02:01:17,520 --> 02:01:20,040
Speaker 2: just so that you know, I would imagine this got

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02:01:20,120 --> 02:01:22,720
Speaker 2: more than simply the parents and a couple of friends

2494
02:01:22,840 --> 02:01:23,880
Speaker 2: of the kids on the team.

2495
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Speaker 9: Yeah, we started in late May early June with the

2496
02:01:28,680 --> 02:01:33,600
Speaker 9: details and working out the order, the delivery, the scheduling,

2497
02:01:33,720 --> 02:01:35,160
Speaker 9: all that type of thing. And as soon as it

2498
02:01:35,200 --> 02:01:39,560
Speaker 9: became in print that we were going to be able

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02:01:39,560 --> 02:01:43,040
Speaker 9: to do this, we just started to blasting the volleyball

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Speaker 9: community and our teams did a good job of spreading

2501
02:01:45,240 --> 02:01:47,400
Speaker 9: the message we did on you know, our social media

2502
02:01:47,440 --> 02:01:51,040
Speaker 9: accounts and just started to spread it within the volleyball

2503
02:01:51,040 --> 02:01:54,879
Speaker 9: community in northeast Indiana and it ended up being across

2504
02:01:54,880 --> 02:01:55,800
Speaker 9: the state of Indiana.

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02:01:56,440 --> 02:01:59,280
Speaker 2: Dan this past year, as a matter of fact, they

2506
02:01:59,280 --> 02:02:01,040
Speaker 2: have a new head coach. Now what I'm about to

2507
02:02:01,080 --> 02:02:03,200
Speaker 2: mention and I realized that you're up in Fort Wayne.

2508
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Speaker 2: Dan Gender is our guests. He is the athletic director

2509
02:02:05,320 --> 02:02:08,240
Speaker 2: up at Carol High School in Fort Wayne. The Indian

2510
02:02:08,320 --> 02:02:12,400
Speaker 2: Knight is an indoor volleyball team, a professional volleyball team

2511
02:02:12,440 --> 02:02:16,360
Speaker 2: here in Indianapolis technically in Fishers is where they play,

2512
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Speaker 2: and their inaugural season was just this past year and

2513
02:02:20,680 --> 02:02:22,760
Speaker 2: I went to gosh, I probably went to three or

2514
02:02:22,800 --> 02:02:25,280
Speaker 2: four matches, and when I went to the first one, Dan,

2515
02:02:25,320 --> 02:02:28,160
Speaker 2: the first thing I noticed when I walked in was

2516
02:02:28,440 --> 02:02:31,440
Speaker 2: I was blown away by the size of the crowd,

2517
02:02:32,160 --> 02:02:35,240
Speaker 2: and then I realized that the vast majority of the

2518
02:02:35,320 --> 02:02:39,520
Speaker 2: crowd were young women with their parents, high school to

2519
02:02:39,560 --> 02:02:43,000
Speaker 2: college aged women who are volleyball players or love the

2520
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:45,320
Speaker 2: sport of volleyball, and now they had this was their

2521
02:02:45,360 --> 02:02:48,880
Speaker 2: opportunity right to see volleyball at the highest level and

2522
02:02:48,920 --> 02:02:52,520
Speaker 2: to see role models and professionals playing. And it dawned

2523
02:02:52,560 --> 02:02:55,120
Speaker 2: on me then, Dan, and maybe I'm late to this party,

2524
02:02:55,760 --> 02:02:58,960
Speaker 2: but this is a very underrated state. And I know

2525
02:02:59,120 --> 02:03:03,920
Speaker 2: Munsey has a right volleyball tradition, you know clearly Fort Wayne.

2526
02:03:03,960 --> 02:03:06,400
Speaker 2: Does you know Kirch Kurry I think at one point

2527
02:03:06,480 --> 02:03:09,160
Speaker 2: was up there. I mean, there's there's a great legacy

2528
02:03:09,360 --> 02:03:13,120
Speaker 2: in footprint of volleyball in Indiana. But am I correct

2529
02:03:13,160 --> 02:03:18,440
Speaker 2: in saying that perhaps we underestimate just how powerful this

2530
02:03:18,560 --> 02:03:20,440
Speaker 2: sport is for young people in this state.

2531
02:03:21,280 --> 02:03:26,240
Speaker 9: Absolutely. And you know, it goes back many many years

2532
02:03:26,280 --> 02:03:29,840
Speaker 9: to coach ball at what was I PFW and growing

2533
02:03:29,840 --> 02:03:33,400
Speaker 9: that program there and they went to the national tournament

2534
02:03:33,440 --> 02:03:35,879
Speaker 9: many times, and he grew that in the men's program

2535
02:03:35,920 --> 02:03:39,760
Speaker 9: and that's grown into obviously the women's across the nation

2536
02:03:39,920 --> 02:03:43,680
Speaker 9: at the college level is incredible, and now the the

2537
02:03:45,320 --> 02:03:48,200
Speaker 9: viewer viewership on ESPN and all the different networks with

2538
02:03:48,400 --> 02:03:51,720
Speaker 9: just volleyball in general is incredible. Big ten volleyball is

2539
02:03:51,760 --> 02:03:54,040
Speaker 9: top notch, and you put up the other top four

2540
02:03:55,920 --> 02:03:59,520
Speaker 9: or power conferences in that same category, and it's just

2541
02:03:59,720 --> 02:04:03,680
Speaker 9: the gravitate to it. It's a fast paced game, it's fun,

2542
02:04:04,680 --> 02:04:06,960
Speaker 9: it is growing like crazy, and it's worth celebrating. And

2543
02:04:07,000 --> 02:04:10,280
Speaker 9: now the boys sport is even growing now that it's

2544
02:04:10,280 --> 02:04:11,160
Speaker 9: an I say sport.

2545
02:04:11,680 --> 02:04:14,600
Speaker 2: Okay, So last question is this, how many more of

2546
02:04:14,600 --> 02:04:15,400
Speaker 2: these are we going to do?

2547
02:04:16,880 --> 02:04:17,920
Speaker 9: It might be too fresh.

2548
02:04:17,960 --> 02:04:18,400
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2549
02:04:19,120 --> 02:04:20,760
Speaker 9: We've talked a lot about that in the last couple

2550
02:04:20,760 --> 02:04:24,800
Speaker 9: of days. Like it was an incredible event. I'm not

2551
02:04:24,840 --> 02:04:26,880
Speaker 9: going to commit today that it's an every year event.

2552
02:04:26,920 --> 02:04:30,920
Speaker 9: I don't know what that looks like. And it's a tremendous,

2553
02:04:31,400 --> 02:04:34,520
Speaker 9: tremendous amount of work and details and it was worth

2554
02:04:34,720 --> 02:04:38,520
Speaker 9: every ounce of it. But this guarantee we're gonna do

2555
02:04:38,520 --> 02:04:41,800
Speaker 9: it next year, I don't know yet. I've had several

2556
02:04:41,800 --> 02:04:45,240
Speaker 9: conversations with schools around the state in the last two

2557
02:04:45,280 --> 02:04:47,440
Speaker 9: days that they just call and say, hey, we're interested,

2558
02:04:47,520 --> 02:04:50,520
Speaker 9: how'd you do it? So I think it's gonna blow

2559
02:04:50,600 --> 02:04:53,480
Speaker 9: up in other places to give it a try. We're

2560
02:04:53,520 --> 02:04:55,880
Speaker 9: sort of proud and happy that we were first and

2561
02:04:55,920 --> 02:05:00,440
Speaker 9: it worked out so well, so maybe we we we

2562
02:05:00,560 --> 02:05:02,800
Speaker 9: might do it again. Who knows.

2563
02:05:03,120 --> 02:05:06,240
Speaker 2: Listen, I know how much you know just I mentioned it.

2564
02:05:06,440 --> 02:05:09,080
Speaker 2: You know Lloyd Ball, for example, playing growing up near

2565
02:05:09,120 --> 02:05:11,800
Speaker 2: Fort Wayne. You mentioned playing in the early nineties there

2566
02:05:11,840 --> 02:05:14,280
Speaker 2: at Purdue Fort Wayne. And for people to be able

2567
02:05:14,320 --> 02:05:16,520
Speaker 2: to see that and then he goes on, you know,

2568
02:05:16,680 --> 02:05:19,120
Speaker 2: you see him on national teams and Olympic teams. You

2569
02:05:19,240 --> 02:05:21,480
Speaker 2: got to see it to be it, right, And I

2570
02:05:21,520 --> 02:05:24,760
Speaker 2: think that something like this, to see it means you

2571
02:05:24,800 --> 02:05:27,200
Speaker 2: can be it. And we'll see if we get other

2572
02:05:27,880 --> 02:05:30,080
Speaker 2: installments of it, maybe not even in Fort Wayne, but

2573
02:05:30,120 --> 02:05:31,880
Speaker 2: throughout the city of Indiana. But I think it's great

2574
02:05:31,920 --> 02:05:34,600
Speaker 2: Dan that you guys had that vision and made it happen,

2575
02:05:34,640 --> 02:05:38,600
Speaker 2: and it was very cool. The weather absolutely cooperated. But

2576
02:05:38,720 --> 02:05:40,040
Speaker 2: let's see if we can do it again. But I'll

2577
02:05:40,040 --> 02:05:41,640
Speaker 2: give you time to plan it out and then we'll

2578
02:05:41,680 --> 02:05:42,920
Speaker 2: talk about it then. Sound good.

2579
02:05:43,520 --> 02:05:45,839
Speaker 9: That'd be awesome. Listen, as we put something on calendar,

2580
02:05:45,880 --> 02:05:47,960
Speaker 9: we'll start praying for good weather. We did for the

2581
02:05:48,080 --> 02:05:51,560
Speaker 9: last two months let's pray for August twenty seventh, and.

2582
02:05:51,560 --> 02:05:53,880
Speaker 2: It was a perfect night, no question. Dan appreciate it

2583
02:05:53,920 --> 02:05:56,720
Speaker 2: as always. Thank you so much for having us again,

2584
02:05:56,800 --> 02:06:00,320
Speaker 2: Dan Gander joining us on the program. Franciscan Hell, folks,

2585
02:06:00,320 --> 02:06:01,880
Speaker 2: you heard me talking about it, the heart scans and

2586
02:06:01,920 --> 02:06:04,720
Speaker 2: how important it is. It is so affordable. You can

2587
02:06:04,760 --> 02:06:07,240
Speaker 2: pay right out of pocket, it's not invasive. It literally

2588
02:06:07,240 --> 02:06:10,520
Speaker 2: takes like fifteen minutes and you, you know, simply find

2589
02:06:10,520 --> 02:06:13,000
Speaker 2: out if you had a family of heart disease. I'm

2590
02:06:13,000 --> 02:06:14,960
Speaker 2: telling you don't want to go through what I did.

2591
02:06:15,160 --> 02:06:16,720
Speaker 2: And we're trying to do everything we can to make

2592
02:06:16,760 --> 02:06:19,959
Speaker 2: sure that people are prevented about that. And I appreciate

2593
02:06:19,960 --> 02:06:22,000
Speaker 2: everybody that's reached out to me to tell me about

2594
02:06:22,040 --> 02:06:24,040
Speaker 2: the fact that they had a heart scanner had questions

2595
02:06:24,080 --> 02:06:26,360
Speaker 2: about it. A couple of people actually asked me questions.

2596
02:06:26,720 --> 02:06:29,640
Speaker 2: And I do plan on getting back to you tonight

2597
02:06:29,680 --> 02:06:31,919
Speaker 2: as a matter of fact, because I'm writing down in Nashville,

2598
02:06:32,000 --> 02:06:34,080
Speaker 2: so I will get back to everybody on that. But

2599
02:06:34,160 --> 02:06:36,480
Speaker 2: just forty nine dollars for a heart scan of Franciscan Health,

2600
02:06:36,520 --> 02:06:39,320
Speaker 2: and you do get a heart health risk assessment reading

2601
02:06:39,320 --> 02:06:43,280
Speaker 2: with it, all of the information available franciscanhealth dot org

2602
02:06:43,920 --> 02:06:48,280
Speaker 2: slash screening bundles or eight three three two three eight

2603
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Speaker 2: zero six eight eight. That's eight three three two three

2604
02:06:51,400 --> 02:06:55,360
Speaker 2: eight zero six eight eight. At the beginning of the

2605
02:06:55,400 --> 02:06:57,880
Speaker 2: week when I had on Ed Carpenter, you recall, correct.

2606
02:06:57,680 --> 02:06:59,520
Speaker 8: Eddie, Yeah, I remember.

2607
02:07:00,840 --> 02:07:04,520
Speaker 2: And during that time Ed had mentioned that because Christian

2608
02:07:04,600 --> 02:07:06,960
Speaker 2: Raspussen had won the IndyCar Race, that it was by

2609
02:07:07,000 --> 02:07:10,120
Speaker 2: one get one for the peel pods of Java House.

2610
02:07:10,480 --> 02:07:14,320
Speaker 2: M And I told you I'm not a coffee drinker

2611
02:07:14,360 --> 02:07:18,200
Speaker 2: at all, yep, But I got curious and tried the

2612
02:07:18,320 --> 02:07:21,120
Speaker 2: Java House peel pods, and since it was by one

2613
02:07:21,120 --> 02:07:23,640
Speaker 2: get one and I'm a nice guy, I decided that

2614
02:07:23,680 --> 02:07:27,680
Speaker 2: I would share with you, and so therefore you made

2615
02:07:27,680 --> 02:07:29,800
Speaker 2: your introduction today to it and you enjoyed.

2616
02:07:29,800 --> 02:07:33,840
Speaker 8: Correct, Yes, Jake, I'm typically not one that drinks coffee black,

2617
02:07:34,040 --> 02:07:36,680
Speaker 8: like I have to have some creamer and some sugar

2618
02:07:36,760 --> 02:07:38,920
Speaker 8: or something in it, and I don't have anything in this.

2619
02:07:39,000 --> 02:07:41,760
Speaker 8: And it's fantastic. Yeah, it's pretty good, pretty smooth. It's

2620
02:07:41,840 --> 02:07:44,080
Speaker 8: very smooth. The don'ren have like a like the bean

2621
02:07:44,120 --> 02:07:45,720
Speaker 8: taste like a coffee bean.

2622
02:07:45,800 --> 02:07:48,480
Speaker 2: There's a small dab just so you know in there

2623
02:07:48,520 --> 02:07:50,760
Speaker 2: of Splendor, which is a sweetenerve, well, then that's fine,

2624
02:07:50,760 --> 02:07:52,680
Speaker 2: I mean, but you can make it, you can make

2625
02:07:52,720 --> 02:07:55,000
Speaker 2: it totally black. But yes, it's very smooth. And I

2626
02:07:55,040 --> 02:07:58,040
Speaker 2: did not realize this, but do you know that black tea?

2627
02:07:59,040 --> 02:08:03,880
Speaker 2: So they believe that black tea can reduce your chance

2628
02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:07,120
Speaker 2: of dementia. And that's my number one fear. I think

2629
02:08:07,120 --> 02:08:08,880
Speaker 2: most people it's their number one fear. So I'm now

2630
02:08:08,960 --> 02:08:10,760
Speaker 2: going to be drinking black tea every single day.

2631
02:08:10,960 --> 02:08:14,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, and it's good for your metabolism and all sorts

2632
02:08:14,760 --> 02:08:16,200
Speaker 8: of different like cut health, is it.

2633
02:08:16,400 --> 02:08:19,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's one of the one of them they have.

2634
02:08:19,600 --> 02:08:21,800
Speaker 2: So I ordered up on the since it was by one.

2635
02:08:21,800 --> 02:08:24,640
Speaker 2: Get one if you come to my place actually, and

2636
02:08:24,880 --> 02:08:27,600
Speaker 2: sometimes you do when you take care of boo nine

2637
02:08:27,680 --> 02:08:28,920
Speaker 2: pounds of black tea in there.

2638
02:08:29,000 --> 02:08:31,800
Speaker 8: You know, I'm waiting for the invite for the this

2639
02:08:32,080 --> 02:08:35,000
Speaker 8: you know this quote unquote watch party we're gonna have

2640
02:08:35,040 --> 02:08:36,080
Speaker 8: for Shawshank Redemption.

2641
02:08:37,000 --> 02:08:39,440
Speaker 2: I still can't believe you have not seen Shawshank Redection.

2642
02:08:39,600 --> 02:08:41,200
Speaker 2: I know we've got to do the watch party. I

2643
02:08:41,240 --> 02:08:44,160
Speaker 2: get it. I'm telling you it will. That movie will

2644
02:08:44,240 --> 02:08:45,880
Speaker 2: change your life. I think The thing that's going to

2645
02:08:45,920 --> 02:08:47,480
Speaker 2: be fun when I watch that movie with you is

2646
02:08:47,520 --> 02:08:49,360
Speaker 2: watching you try to act like you're not tearing up

2647
02:08:49,360 --> 02:08:52,200
Speaker 2: at the end, because I will. And I've seen the

2648
02:08:52,240 --> 02:08:57,520
Speaker 2: movie four thousand, six hundred and twenty seven times. It's fabulous.

2649
02:08:57,840 --> 02:09:00,320
Speaker 2: What does your weekend consist of or what games are

2650
02:09:00,360 --> 02:09:01,800
Speaker 2: you most anticipating watching?

2651
02:09:02,320 --> 02:09:04,600
Speaker 8: So tonight first and foremost, Jake on the Fan, I've

2652
02:09:04,600 --> 02:09:07,240
Speaker 8: got pregame coverage toward the Indiana Fever. They're in Los Angeles,

2653
02:09:07,320 --> 02:09:11,240
Speaker 8: a big three game road trip for Indiana that starts tonight.

2654
02:09:11,280 --> 02:09:13,240
Speaker 8: Then they will go to Golden State in a pivotal

2655
02:09:13,320 --> 02:09:16,720
Speaker 8: matchup on Sunday. That one is pivotal just because right

2656
02:09:16,760 --> 02:09:18,800
Speaker 8: now those two teams are kind of teetering with one

2657
02:09:18,800 --> 02:09:22,080
Speaker 8: another in the playoff positioning, and Golden State already has

2658
02:09:22,120 --> 02:09:25,240
Speaker 8: the head to head advantage over the Indiana Fever. So obviously,

2659
02:09:25,240 --> 02:09:28,480
Speaker 8: if the Fever could win that distance themselves from Golden

2660
02:09:28,480 --> 02:09:31,320
Speaker 8: State by a game tonight, los Angeles team that's had

2661
02:09:31,360 --> 02:09:34,120
Speaker 8: their number as well, That Fever are zero and two

2662
02:09:34,960 --> 02:09:37,400
Speaker 8: this year against Los Angeles, and then they conclude that

2663
02:09:37,480 --> 02:09:43,520
Speaker 8: road trip on Tuesday against the Phoenix Mercury. In terms

2664
02:09:43,520 --> 02:09:47,840
Speaker 8: of college football, obviously the Big Ones Ohio State and

2665
02:09:47,960 --> 02:09:52,960
Speaker 8: Texas LSU, Clemson. How does Fernanda Mendozo look in game

2666
02:09:53,040 --> 02:09:55,520
Speaker 8: number one with Indiana. I understand it's old dominion, but

2667
02:09:56,560 --> 02:09:59,920
Speaker 8: how does he look a lot at the hy Yeah,

2668
02:10:00,200 --> 02:10:02,320
Speaker 8: Tennessee Syracuse could be a little bit of a sneaky

2669
02:10:02,320 --> 02:10:05,640
Speaker 8: good game. Yeah, just because you don't know what Tennessee's

2670
02:10:05,640 --> 02:10:09,240
Speaker 8: going to look like Nicoaimi Alava with the late transfer

2671
02:10:09,240 --> 02:10:11,400
Speaker 8: out of there. So how do they look offense? Well,

2672
02:10:11,440 --> 02:10:13,200
Speaker 8: you know they're going to be very good typically on

2673
02:10:13,240 --> 02:10:15,280
Speaker 8: that side of the bottle up at UCLA, right, Yes,

2674
02:10:15,320 --> 02:10:17,880
Speaker 8: he did. That's why I picked them when we first

2675
02:10:17,960 --> 02:10:20,840
Speaker 8: had this conversation, you know, a month ago before Dave

2676
02:10:20,880 --> 02:10:24,880
Speaker 8: Revson started helicoptering around the Big Ten training camps of

2677
02:10:25,000 --> 02:10:28,120
Speaker 8: parachuting in, Yes, parachuting in thank you, of teams that

2678
02:10:28,160 --> 02:10:29,880
Speaker 8: could be this year's Indiana and the Big Ten, and

2679
02:10:29,920 --> 02:10:32,360
Speaker 8: I identified Ucla just because of the fact they got

2680
02:10:32,600 --> 02:10:34,800
Speaker 8: what appears to be a solid quarterback. And if you

2681
02:10:34,800 --> 02:10:36,600
Speaker 8: have a solid quarterback, that could lead to success.

2682
02:10:36,680 --> 02:10:39,520
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, man, the one thing about UCLA and

2683
02:10:39,600 --> 02:10:42,120
Speaker 2: I know, and I'm curious because next weekend I'll be

2684
02:10:42,160 --> 02:10:47,520
Speaker 2: at the Rose Bowl. I am very curious to see,

2685
02:10:49,040 --> 02:10:51,120
Speaker 2: you know, when I go to the Rose Bowl, because

2686
02:10:51,120 --> 02:10:52,640
Speaker 2: I've never been to a game there. And I mean

2687
02:10:52,680 --> 02:10:55,040
Speaker 2: I've been to Pasadena and I've been outside the Rose Bowl,

2688
02:10:55,040 --> 02:10:57,720
Speaker 2: but I've not been into the stadium itself. And i

2689
02:10:57,760 --> 02:10:59,920
Speaker 2: know that that's off campus and that hurts them a little.

2690
02:11:01,360 --> 02:11:05,640
Speaker 2: But if you, I mean, just you drive one time

2691
02:11:05,960 --> 02:11:10,760
Speaker 2: through the UCLA campus and instantly you're like, why would

2692
02:11:11,160 --> 02:11:12,560
Speaker 2: everyone not come to school here?

2693
02:11:12,800 --> 02:11:13,000
Speaker 9: Right?

2694
02:11:13,200 --> 02:11:17,800
Speaker 2: I mean, that has that has to be the easiest

2695
02:11:17,920 --> 02:11:19,880
Speaker 2: recruiting sale of all time.

2696
02:11:20,080 --> 02:11:22,440
Speaker 8: They play at eleven o'clock tomorrow night, so if you

2697
02:11:22,600 --> 02:11:24,200
Speaker 8: when you're up, Jake, you can turn them on. They're

2698
02:11:24,200 --> 02:11:28,320
Speaker 8: playing the Utes. You know, Utaw typically a solid team.

2699
02:11:28,360 --> 02:11:31,240
Speaker 8: They're very gritty, tough to play. And on Sunday you've

2700
02:11:31,280 --> 02:11:33,760
Speaker 8: got a pair of games. You've got Leonora Sellers, who's

2701
02:11:33,800 --> 02:11:35,880
Speaker 8: one of those quarterbacks that could be in Heisman contention,

2702
02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:38,080
Speaker 8: and you know in the top half of the draft

2703
02:11:38,080 --> 02:11:39,760
Speaker 8: this upcoming year for South Carolina.

2704
02:11:39,800 --> 02:11:40,640
Speaker 2: That at three o'clock and.

2705
02:11:40,640 --> 02:11:44,600
Speaker 8: Then Notre Dame Miami on Sunday at seven thirty. The

2706
02:11:45,320 --> 02:11:47,120
Speaker 8: by the way, I think Jav's ready. If you want

2707
02:11:47,120 --> 02:11:50,320
Speaker 8: to chat with jamv at all John's on location today right. Yes,

2708
02:11:51,200 --> 02:11:54,480
Speaker 8: Mistic Waters absolutely beautiful.

2709
02:11:54,760 --> 02:11:58,080
Speaker 2: I'm telling you that is such a Brent Holverson is

2710
02:11:58,120 --> 02:12:01,640
Speaker 2: a visionary and put together something that you know, if

2711
02:12:01,680 --> 02:12:03,520
Speaker 2: you go back to John you think about it. You know,

2712
02:12:03,720 --> 02:12:06,120
Speaker 2: twenty five thirty years ago that area where you are,

2713
02:12:06,160 --> 02:12:08,200
Speaker 2: like when we were in college. I mean that felt

2714
02:12:08,200 --> 02:12:09,840
Speaker 2: like you needed a state map to get up there.

2715
02:12:09,880 --> 02:12:12,800
Speaker 2: Now it's the epicenter of all kinds of activity and

2716
02:12:12,920 --> 02:12:16,600
Speaker 2: it is beautiful. And I cannot imagine better weather to

2717
02:12:16,760 --> 02:12:19,520
Speaker 2: order up for everything you've got going on than what

2718
02:12:19,560 --> 02:12:20,200
Speaker 2: you have right.

2719
02:12:20,040 --> 02:12:23,080
Speaker 6: Now, Jake, this is going to be fantastic. And when

2720
02:12:23,120 --> 02:12:25,160
Speaker 6: you think about it, the last two this is the

2721
02:12:25,200 --> 02:12:28,640
Speaker 6: third annual Labor Day weekend bender at Mystic Waters Campground

2722
02:12:28,800 --> 02:12:30,040
Speaker 6: right off of I sixty nine.

2723
02:12:30,120 --> 02:12:32,240
Speaker 1: The first two it has been.

2724
02:12:32,560 --> 02:12:35,840
Speaker 6: About ninety five degrees and I don't know if there

2725
02:12:35,840 --> 02:12:37,760
Speaker 6: has been more perfect weather.

2726
02:12:38,240 --> 02:12:38,480
Speaker 1: Now.

2727
02:12:38,640 --> 02:12:41,560
Speaker 6: Do I want to hotter, absolutely, but most people don't.

2728
02:12:42,000 --> 02:12:43,960
Speaker 6: And this is going to be awesome. And you're right

2729
02:12:44,040 --> 02:12:46,960
Speaker 6: what Brent and Lisa have done with this place up here,

2730
02:12:47,000 --> 02:12:49,960
Speaker 6: with all the cabins and how scenic it is, and

2731
02:12:50,080 --> 02:12:53,360
Speaker 6: what we're going to do starting out today and later

2732
02:12:53,440 --> 02:12:55,560
Speaker 6: on this weekend is fantastic.

2733
02:12:55,600 --> 02:12:56,400
Speaker 1: It grows and grows.

2734
02:12:56,440 --> 02:12:59,760
Speaker 6: I'll tell you the other thing, Jake, Pendleton is outstanding.

2735
02:12:59,800 --> 02:13:00,879
Speaker 1: Have you been through Pendleton?

2736
02:13:00,960 --> 02:13:01,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2737
02:13:01,160 --> 02:13:01,520
Speaker 1: Recently?

2738
02:13:01,600 --> 02:13:03,680
Speaker 2: Then I've got a great park up there that the

2739
02:13:03,760 --> 02:13:05,160
Speaker 2: Falls Park. All of it's great.

2740
02:13:06,200 --> 02:13:09,120
Speaker 6: It I just drove through to go to a Needler's

2741
02:13:09,160 --> 02:13:11,920
Speaker 6: location to get cottage cheese, and I swear to you, man,

2742
02:13:12,760 --> 02:13:14,880
Speaker 6: I thought, wow, no wonder people want to live up

2743
02:13:14,880 --> 02:13:16,640
Speaker 6: in Pendleton. I'm not trying to be a Chamber of

2744
02:13:16,640 --> 02:13:22,240
Speaker 6: Commerce guy here in southern Madison County, but it is incredible.

2745
02:13:22,320 --> 02:13:24,640
Speaker 6: Pendleton is I can understand why people want to come

2746
02:13:24,720 --> 02:13:26,520
Speaker 6: up here and let their kids go to Pendleton hids

2747
02:13:26,520 --> 02:13:28,880
Speaker 6: play a little hoop, little sports and have some fun

2748
02:13:28,920 --> 02:13:29,960
Speaker 6: because it's pretty awesome.

2749
02:13:30,040 --> 02:13:32,400
Speaker 2: Kellen Dunham played there. That just played a butler, you know.

2750
02:13:32,400 --> 02:13:33,880
Speaker 2: I mean, they've been some good players that have come

2751
02:13:33,880 --> 02:13:36,160
Speaker 2: out of there. John, you have loaded up what for

2752
02:13:36,360 --> 02:13:38,640
Speaker 2: the big program today. And by the way, folks, you

2753
02:13:38,680 --> 02:13:41,240
Speaker 2: don't need right now, perhaps on a night like tonight,

2754
02:13:41,440 --> 02:13:43,080
Speaker 2: and if you're camping out at mister Rivers, you don't

2755
02:13:43,080 --> 02:13:45,680
Speaker 2: need your love heat your your love heating just yet.

2756
02:13:46,200 --> 02:13:48,480
Speaker 2: But you may soon, so be sure to keep in

2757
02:13:48,480 --> 02:13:51,400
Speaker 2: mind getting your furnace checked at three one, seven, three five,

2758
02:13:51,480 --> 02:13:53,360
Speaker 2: three twenty one forty one. What's lined up on the

2759
02:13:53,360 --> 02:13:54,840
Speaker 2: big program, John.

2760
02:13:55,040 --> 02:13:56,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, and thank you for the cross talk with Love,

2761
02:13:56,960 --> 02:13:59,480
Speaker 6: Heating and Air. We've got Don Fisher voice of the Hoosiers.

2762
02:13:59,480 --> 02:14:02,200
Speaker 6: Game number one for the Hoosiers coming up tomorrow against

2763
02:14:02,200 --> 02:14:06,200
Speaker 6: Old Dominion. We will talk to Don hashtag ass Pat.

2764
02:14:06,240 --> 02:14:08,520
Speaker 6: That's Pat Sullivan going to join us live up here.

2765
02:14:09,000 --> 02:14:13,680
Speaker 6: And Kevin Nealon Kevin Nealan, the long time comedian and

2766
02:14:13,960 --> 02:14:17,960
Speaker 6: actor and a good friend of Adam Sandler. Kevin Nealan

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Speaker 6: is in town I think nine seasons on Saturday Night Live.

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Speaker 6: He's going to join us coming up a little bit

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Speaker 6: later on. He has a weekend stint downtown at Helium.

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Speaker 6: He's a big time sports guy and from what they say,

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Speaker 6: I've never talked with him, but an even better dude.

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Speaker 6: But Kevin Nelan's going to join us coming up a

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Speaker 6: little bit later on on the show, and we'll get

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Speaker 6: everybody right with all the sports this weekend, because there

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Speaker 6: is a blank ton of it and we love it.

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Speaker 2: Didn't Kevin Neilan do weekend update?

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Speaker 1: He did?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he absolutely I kind of always wonder those that

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Speaker 6: did Weekend Update what they think about the others that

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Speaker 6: did it. You ever think about it, because right now

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Speaker 6: I think everybody thinks that Michael Jay and Colin Joes

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Speaker 6: may be state of the art. But I thought Dennis

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Speaker 6: Miller stated of the art at the time, everybody had

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02:15:00,880 --> 02:15:03,280
Speaker 6: an issue with Norm McDonald. But we look back on

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Speaker 6: at Norm McDonald, it is probably now more popular.

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Speaker 1: At doing it than he was when he was actually

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Speaker 1: doing it.

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Speaker 2: Every time I get on social media, there's a Norm

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Speaker 2: McDonald clip that runs through in my algorithm. Yeah he

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Speaker 2: was the best.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, Kevin Nalan, he was in Happy Go More

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Speaker 6: too here most recently that came out earlier this summer

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Speaker 6: with Adam Sandler and Kevin nealand's going to join us.

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Speaker 6: He's got a weekend again at Helium Comedy Club Downtown,

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Speaker 6: which it's a pretty good name, pretty big name to

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Speaker 6: be so well, I'll talk him up a little bit later,

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Speaker 6: and all our normal guests up here too. This is

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Speaker 6: always kind of it is a sports but it's also

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Speaker 6: a leisure and fun and there's a lot of stuff

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Speaker 6: built into a Friday, especially going into labor Day weekend

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Speaker 6: on this show, and we enjoyed a great deal.

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Speaker 2: We do.

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Speaker 1: Now you're going to Nashville, right.

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Speaker 2: I am indeed on my way down. Shannon's birthday today.

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Speaker 2: We had dinner last night and then we will celebrate

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Speaker 2: it next week as well.

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Speaker 6: So shout out hello, oh shn Shannon your birthday.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 1: Is she going to come up here this weekend at all?

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Speaker 6: I mean, obviously no weirdness intended here by me, but

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Speaker 6: is she going to come up here?

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Speaker 1: Because we would love to have her?

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Speaker 2: She is definitely going to call in for the takeover.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure, you know. Here's the weird thing, John,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I should read it this. She

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Speaker 2: hasn't told me her weekend plans.

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Speaker 1: H No, I think you're okay.

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Speaker 6: Tell her that I'll have docin ready for because I

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Speaker 6: know she's probably her request docin.

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Speaker 2: That's right, all right, John, enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: We'll be listening to you, Ah buddy, thank you.

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Speaker 2: J Jamb's up next. I thank you for listening to

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Speaker 2: Querying Company.