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Speaker 1: Daddy hip hop conversations outcasts kind of inducted into the

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Speaker 2: Just call the music Hall of Fame, music Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: I don't understand you know what I'm saying, like just

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Speaker 3: the whole rock and roll like where we blurred the line?

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Speaker 3: Like when did the lines get blurred with the whole

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Speaker 3: rock and roll Hall of Fame to like you said,

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Speaker 3: music hall of Fame, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, d I affirmative action for anyway you know, he

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Speaker 1: let me, let me, let me touch before they damn

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Speaker 1: all the damn black hip hop artists stricken from the

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Speaker 1: record taking out of there. My name is Kenneth be

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Speaker 1: enjoying on you. I got b I got right, And

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Speaker 1: we have a guest Jay. You already are the speaking

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Speaker 1: what's her brother? Welcome to the show. I'm glad to

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Speaker 3: me out there as well. Also, who gave you a podcast?

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Speaker 3: Go to YouTube dot com slash at who gave you

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Speaker 1: As well, just to quit overview of some of the

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Speaker 1: things we're gonna talk about. We're definitely going to talk about,

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Speaker 1: you know, our reactions to them being inducted into the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, talk about the performance andre three thousands absence, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, their legacy and hip hop and just hip hop,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the rock and roll just overall. So

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Speaker 1: it finally happened they got inducted into the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: What did you Was this long overdue or was this

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Speaker 1: right on time? What do y'all think?

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Speaker 2: I mean, remember, like I said, it's max it.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, what's I feel like older groups should

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Speaker 5: so I feel like it should go in like in

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Speaker 2: I feel like it, like are they deserving definitely? Okay?

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Speaker 5: Is like yeah, you think of like some of the

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Speaker 5: best dual hip hop groups out there. Ever, I mean,

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Speaker 5: you know they're right there. The did first one is

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Speaker 5: guess you can't say it's overdue, but it's just like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's newer groups of groups that came out after them,

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Speaker 5: got in there before them or whatever. Missy got in

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Speaker 5: you determine that, but yeah, they definitely deserve it being

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Speaker 5: I'm glad to see them, glad to see them and

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Speaker 5: saw them the whole Duncheon family up there on stage

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Speaker 5: and stuff in RP Recordrede he should have been he

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Speaker 2: Been there, for sure.

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Speaker 5: It was just to witness that, to be there be

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Speaker 5: a part of that because he was a big part

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Speaker 5: of their sound and them coming up. So like when

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Speaker 5: Andre was saying about that small room, great things happened

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Speaker 5: in the small rooms.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, man, it was dope.

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Speaker 5: Was it was definitely dope to see the flowers while

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Speaker 5: they while they're still with us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well were all some of y'alls in this reactions,

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Speaker 4: So, I mean it is I ain't gonna say long

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Speaker 3: It's right on time, you know what I'm saying, Like

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Speaker 3: they've been around for a minute, and I think that

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Speaker 3: everything just kind of aligned with it. It could have

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Speaker 3: been earlier, but you know, I'm not tripping as long

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Speaker 3: as it did happen. But me personally, I'm just not

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Speaker 3: looking towards rappers getting in the rock and roll but

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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. But it's great when they when it happens,

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Speaker 3: but I just always just kind of get thrown off because,

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Speaker 3: like you know, missy Ellie and everything, I thought the

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Speaker 3: rock and Roll Hall of Fame was rock and roll.

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Speaker 3: But one thing I can say comfortably is I'm tired

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Speaker 4: Whoa, You're tired of it? I'm tired of hot man, Like, bro,

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Speaker 4: what's the Shenanigans.

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Speaker 3: Thee like him not showing, like doing those homans, his absence,

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Speaker 3: the Fluid album, the Piano album, just the bullshit, Like

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Speaker 3: I'm tired of it, Like I'm over it, Like I

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Speaker 3: he put out that Flute album for the fifty year

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Speaker 3: like it's yeah, cause it's like I understand, like you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm on some a different wave link right now, agism

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Speaker 3: he you know what am I gonna wrap about?

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Speaker 4: My colonoscal y'all all that shit?

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Speaker 3: Okay, cool, I get it right, But it comes to

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Speaker 3: we want to see you. You know what I'm saying

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Speaker 3: rocking with big Boy. I'm not saying work on no

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Speaker 2: That moment he should have been on stage.

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Speaker 3: It's the excuse, Like I know he don't want the fame,

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Speaker 4: I get it, man, but it's just I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I guess we do. We spend a lot of energy

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Speaker 2: And it's like he's not giving.

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Speaker 3: No, he don't get it's not reciprocated. And it's it's

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Speaker 3: other people who who who barely get mentioned that that

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Speaker 3: all the time at all times. Andre three thousand here

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Speaker 1: Putting time, and you did come in high.

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Speaker 6: Tired of it, bro, damn bro like like think about

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Speaker 6: like though, like just like he's put his tom correct correct. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: so like Nigga ain't gotta make another song in his

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Speaker 6: life and Nick ain't gotta rap another word lyric. And

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Speaker 6: I think you're getting caught up in rappers that keep

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Speaker 6: going and don't fizzle out, whereas I think he's trying to,

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Speaker 6: you know, ye the rap gracefully, like you know Jordan

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Speaker 6: that's where he's going with it.

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Speaker 1: Like he just already mentioned he's never been really big

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Speaker 4: He's always pushed pushed.

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Speaker 1: Brownies when it came to just music in general.

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Speaker 4: I mean, love alone isn't a.

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Speaker 6: Rap out like that's a that's he pushed brown just

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Speaker 1: So when you talk.

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Speaker 6: About the Piano album and the Flu album.

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Speaker 1: Sure it's not what you know we are.

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Speaker 6: None of us really want to hear that, you know which,

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Speaker 6: even though with the flu Alum shit pobs though, if

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Speaker 6: that's just him man.

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Speaker 1: I think he just I think.

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Speaker 6: He's earned that creative expression space to live wherever he

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Speaker 6: do you see what this man is doing just in

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Speaker 6: I just feel like I feel like he deserves a

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Speaker 6: like I said, we do want it.

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Speaker 1: I want it.

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Speaker 6: I wish he could wrap some more, but I could

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Speaker 6: just listen to all the other raps he's given us

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Speaker 6: to this point, so they definitely deserve it. If he

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Speaker 6: to show up to these people. Fucking this is fine

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Speaker 6: for me. Like, like, he showed up this stuff the

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Speaker 6: reward because it is.

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Speaker 1: An honor or whatever. But I don't know what his

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Speaker 1: reason was for not showing up but not performing performing, yeah,

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Speaker 6: But I mean, I think he's done ward enough for

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Speaker 5: And I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure him and Big

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Speaker 5: Boy had a conversation. I'm pretty sure big Boy knew that,

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Speaker 5: but like I'm not gonna perform. I'm pretty sure Big

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Speaker 5: Boy do that. I'm pretty sure they talk.

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Speaker 6: It would be different if he hasn't already expressed industry

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Speaker 6: and not one of all that. He's already expressed that,

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Speaker 6: but he knew he had to be there with his

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Speaker 6: I'm sure they had a conversation.

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Speaker 1: I'll show up. Yeah, I bet Andrew probably over it, bro,

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Speaker 1: but I mean big boy, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But my thing is I understand that he has put

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Speaker 4: I get it.

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Speaker 3: But the game made you. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: You contributed to the game. But we're the ones who

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Speaker 3: bought the records. We're the one, and it ain't like

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Speaker 3: we're asking for Andre three. I mean, I would love

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Speaker 3: I don't feel like it's reciprocated enough because you you

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Speaker 3: when you stream the music. We still support him. He

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Speaker 3: But the simple thing is, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: Like the not gonna say the culture because that's the

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, because like Icon Award whatever like that. What's

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Speaker 3: the harm in you showing up, receiving the award, doing

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Speaker 3: a performance, not saying you got to go on the tour?

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Speaker 4: Didn't they perform at one music fest?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: No, no, they did their own shows and it happened

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Speaker 3: to be like a woman one music was Remember that?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah I remember that. Yeah, it was like ten

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Speaker 2: That was ten years ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was on this. Yeah that was in

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Speaker 1: that was in the park right Cial Park Centennial party.

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Speaker 1: I was there like two days fifteen, like that pull

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seeing it. Yeah, I've been saying, yeah, I've

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Speaker 2: been Yeah, I've seen it.

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Speaker 4: What showed though, flute.

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Speaker 1: All he's doing that.

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Speaker 6: But people appreciate it though, because he's fucking three stays

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Speaker 6: like and like you see him around the city just whatever,

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Speaker 6: like he's just he walk he cool, like.

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Speaker 1: Walking around like a mythological figure. Yeah, it's just like

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Speaker 1: it was disappointing though, because when I saw you, he wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Before I saw Big boy up there and you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Jim had to perform. Besides yeah, but I mean

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Speaker 1: everybody a bit boy up there, bro performed.

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Speaker 2: They joints.

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Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. I feel like a lot of

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Speaker 3: Outcast Pepper is a big deal.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: They were the hip hop backs.

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Speaker 1: They did the same. Now they that's the same class

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Speaker 3: They keep getting overlooked because Outcasts is so fucking colossal

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Speaker 4: To say to Yeah, the same and it was dope

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we can't forget about the ladies and channel.

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Speaker 2: We cannot queens, right, the originated queen.

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Speaker 1: Flowers. Yeah, that was good, I will say. Not seeing

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Speaker 1: Like this is your boy man? Like like it's nothing new.

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Speaker 1: I want to get to the performances. Bro, Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: When she, I was like, did she just forget the lyrics?

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Speaker 4: Looking like I was like, oh, he's gonna suck up,

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Speaker 3: I hate tribute shows are cool, but like, don't I

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Speaker 4: I want to say that.

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Speaker 1: Was crazy, but yeah, but no Tyler. Tyler Tyler was crazy.

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Speaker 1: And you think about that song, the tempo, the energy,

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Speaker 1: The bro Rod, she threw the guitar, Janelle, she threw

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Speaker 2: From from here and she like.

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Speaker 4: Once she signed the Big Boy okay.

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Speaker 5: Early on, yeah, man, it was it wasn't cracking.

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Yo.

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Speaker 5: Also to go back to saltn Pepper, Spinderella is the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, damn.

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Speaker 3: And I'm glad they got it straight with Spinderella too,

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Speaker 5: Kid man spin man, Oh my god, I'd be like, man,

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Speaker 4: Have me days every time? Yeah, she.

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Speaker 1: Feature got perfect.

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Speaker 1: Been around since then.

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Speaker 5: Okay, her face, that's why she that's why she brought

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but no, it was it was it was.

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Speaker 1: It was dope, man. People seem to be excited. I

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Speaker 1: mean they they're definitely one of hip hop's biggest duos,

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Speaker 1: if not the biggest due ever. Yeah in hip hop.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, A long way man from Southern playing list

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Speaker 1: and catle that music right yeah this yeah, yeah, from

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Speaker 1: You know what's your favorite album.

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Speaker 3: It's a tie between a Quemini and at Aliens. It's

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Speaker 3: it's a tie between those.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like it's like that for me too. It's

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Speaker 5: like depend on the day. Yeah, I said, Criminie, and

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Speaker 4: It's real hard.

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of leaning right now. It's like you said,

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Speaker 4: He said, Stink on You is their worst album.

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Speaker 1: It's not.

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Speaker 4: It's not the worst. He said, I was ranking fourth fourth.

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Speaker 3: He said it was borderline like not he said slow

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Speaker 3: like I said, was a trash He said, nah, I

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Speaker 3: ain't gonna say trash, but it really wasn't isn't as

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Speaker 3: good as people projected out. You know, it's their fourth

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Speaker 3: best album, fourth best one. Yeah, after after the first

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Speaker 4: Then it's on you because the fourth three of the

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Speaker 5: Get God here Yeah, yeah, God herein right is right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good album. Trash. I don't know about

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but that's.

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Speaker 5: Here he didn't hear out of wow, But do you

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Speaker 5: do we count that as yes?

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Speaker 4: We do? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Album?

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Speaker 3: So and I'm like, when people say, you know, it

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Speaker 3: looks like pretty much every artist has an album that

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Speaker 3: somebody doesn't care for. You know what I'm saying out

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Speaker 3: of Wow, I'll be trying to give them grace with that.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, do you put stink on your over love below?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, and I mean I love Love Below too,

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Speaker 7: Yeah album. Okay, My number one is that is man,

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Speaker 5: Yes, always before, there's always gonna be after them. First three,

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Speaker 1: Yep? I think Outcasts they're hip hop's most fearless creative

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Speaker 4: When you say fearless.

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Speaker 1: Like you got about all the duos and hip hop,

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Speaker 3: They're number one duo, creative like and fearless with it.

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Speaker 3: Ain't no other duo pushed the envelope like they did,

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Speaker 3: as far as like from dressing that alternative like, ain't

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Speaker 3: say too rap group duo. I always separate them just

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Speaker 1: I look at that just like it it should be. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I mean yeah, like I mean because UGK never

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Speaker 1: No, they didn't.

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Speaker 4: Mob Deep never did that, did that?

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Speaker 5: and I never thought I never thought of it that way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Well, just just asking the question.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and closing who should be next?

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Speaker 2: Bhutang im about probably GM was in there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they in there.

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Speaker 2: I want to stay in there, Wang, yeah, Tang.

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Speaker 3: It's only right for Bone thus to be there. It's

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Speaker 3: in Cleveland, Bone Thugs, It's in Cleveland next year.

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Speaker 4: Hall of Fames?

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Speaker 1: Are you joking? Serious.

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Speaker 2: I give it Bone.

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Speaker 1: Thus is a Hall of They deserve to be in

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: They're about to get a Hollywood star next year.

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Speaker 5: Really, m yes, sir, maybe it could be in line,

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Speaker 5: It could be would definitely be in there.

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Speaker 2: If Bone get in before, that's a riot.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: There's no way Bone should get in before. And I'm

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Speaker 5: Why if is in there, they're Wu Tanged To me,

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Speaker 5: their impact is down.

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Speaker 2: They're pretty much the same Wu Tang in n w A.

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Speaker 2: Why is not in there?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 3: Musically though, is Wu Tang's music more like influential? Like

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Speaker 3: I look at Wu Tang more as like their collective

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Speaker 3: individually some of them, did you know?

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Speaker 5: That's how dope of a group they was. Individually, they

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Speaker 5: still went out and killed shit individually they did, they

446
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Speaker 5: ain't with a new addition, Like that's why I put

447
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Speaker 5: them in there. They are the best R and B

448
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,200
Speaker 5: groups because it's like as a group they're great.

449
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 2: But they even killed shit individually. They spread out, that's

450
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Speaker 2: what they spread.

451
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,439
Speaker 3: Out and styre killing shit individually, but them together though, Like,

452
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Speaker 3: was it as impactful musically?

453
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

454
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 3: What albums besides like the Chambers Wutang forever, that's where

455
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Speaker 3: you stop.

456
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Speaker 5: That's still impactful though n w A give me a

457
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Speaker 5: w A strata often and then, but also uh Niggas

458
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Speaker 5: for Life was the precursor the g funk. Yeah, but right,

459
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 5: but still that's about the same amount. But then look

460
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Speaker 5: at look at what n w A did was spread

461
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 5: out that that's what I'm saying, and Wu Tang pretty

462
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 5: much put a coast on their back when.

463
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Speaker 3: They was getting the ass. That's true, they brought back. Yeah,

464
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 3: that's true.

465
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:23,120
Speaker 1: That's true.

466
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Speaker 4: They should be.

467
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Speaker 5: I feel like them too is just as equally, especially

468
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Speaker 5: for their represented for their coast.

469
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Speaker 2: I feel like if n w A in there, Wu

470
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Speaker 2: Tang should have been in there.

471
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta write them a letter.

472
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 2: They should have been in there.

473
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Speaker 4: I'm willing to bet they're going to be in there.

474
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Speaker 2: They have that should be next. I feel like that

475
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Speaker 2: should be.

476
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Speaker 1: It feels like oversight. Yeah, it feels like oversight. I

477
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Speaker 1: wonder they got any brothers, any leroy is on that

478
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Speaker 1: in there.

479
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 5: If Triben there already tribing there, try got in last

480
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,160
Speaker 5: two years ago, last.

481
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Speaker 2: Year, two years ago.

482
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Speaker 1: They should definitely be in there.

483
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Speaker 2: I feel like if they should have been in the

484
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Speaker 2: same class.

485
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think opinion, Yeah, yeah, they definitely had an impact.

486
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm surprised they wasn't. I'm surprised they went in there.

487
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Speaker 1: I'm still stuck on Bone Why why why wouldn't they

488
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Speaker 1: be I'm not arguing with that.

489
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Speaker 5: Let me arguing with the Bone Why wouldn't they be?

490
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 5: They just shouldn't get in before. But I'm not arguing with.

491
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Speaker 1: Why do they need to be in there? There's the

492
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Speaker 1: most what's the argument for they're the most? Have they

493
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Speaker 1: even been nominated or are you just put in your

494
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 1: well they.

495
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Speaker 3: Have, well, they've It's been talks about it. I mean really, yes,

496
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Speaker 3: why do you think they getting the Hollywood start?

497
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Speaker 1: Not even though they would getting the star? Yeah?

498
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Speaker 4: You doing it? I ain't doing it.

499
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Speaker 3: But I represent for the Thubs, I represent for the

500
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Speaker 3: w you see, I got my Woo tank shit on.

501
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 3: But h but now they're one of the most influential

502
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 3: rap groups.

503
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 4: I say this is who I feel like.

504
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 3: The most influential rap groups are Bone, n W A,

505
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 3: three six Mafia. A lot of the rap that you

506
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 3: hear now is Bone flows on three six beats. So

507
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 3: it's like if they're you got migos, but just a

508
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 3: whole game. Like at one point, Usher like said it,

509
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 3: and then Brian Michael Cox said, like that two thousands,

510
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 3: early two thousands R and B where they were writing

511
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 3: for Mariah Care, writing for Usher and stuff like that.

512
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 3: He said that because he was on tanking the podcast

513
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Speaker 3: Arms Money.

514
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm know?

515
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 1: R and B.

516
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 4: Yes, that's R and B and rap, you know what

517
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

518
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,959
Speaker 3: So I feel like I wouldn't be mad at three

519
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 3: six being in there too, uh, because they were rock

520
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 3: stars and we're talking about rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

521
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a whole other conversation about us needing our

522
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 1: own institution that we're not going to go there.

523
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 5: But because Bone was kind of like melodic rap before melody.

524
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 3: Were huge, they called them, Yes I'm saying it was

525
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 3: like the Beatles they used to compare. I mean, they

526
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 3: broke the Beatles records back then. So it's just you

527
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 3: know what the problem is. And we talked about this

528
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 3: with a No Limit versus Cash Money ship. People thought

529
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 3: cash Money was gonna beat No Limit because we think

530
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 3: of the two thousands on up. When it comes to

531
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 3: cash money, you get stuck in that nineties, and I

532
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 3: think that's what happened with Salt and Pepper two. But

533
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 3: then when you go back and look at it, you

534
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: be like, damn, hold on, they did this, do that,

535
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 3: And then it'll take a beacon of light like me

536
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 3: to be like, hey, look at this. But you probably

537
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 3: just think about a decade versus somebody in the two

538
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Speaker 3: thousands on.

539
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Speaker 1: Up that you might see all I have to do

540
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Speaker 1: that with a Buster rhymes. That's another one, bro, I

541
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: be I think I forgot. I forgot Buster had like

542
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: first his.

543
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Speaker 2: First three, like three albums.

544
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Speaker 1: Man yeahs bro Yeah, yeah, bust bangers, Bro. I completely

545
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: forgot yeah. Yeah, So you know, but okay, that's interesting.

546
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: I have to think about that. Maybe I think they

547
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: are forgotten group in hip hop that people that don't

548
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: get it they.

549
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: Call him a lot of rap. Now we didn't know.

550
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 5: We didn't call it that because we didn't know that

551
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 5: that was you know what I'm saying.

552
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 2: Niggas created.

553
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, them niggas was singing. They were like the ghetto

554
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 3: boys to men like you. When you when you go

555
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 3: back and listen to that ship, they were in it

556
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 3: like and then the thing with them is you had

557
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 3: Busy who had the lighter voice. Then you had Crazy

558
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 3: had a darker voice, and then Lazy was like ten

559
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 3: or so him in wishbones letting him and wishbone like

560
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 3: and then you hear East ninety nine is what like?

561
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Speaker 1: What would you got to.

562
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 4: Here for that? That west? Anything with Midwest West coast?

563
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: Like, Hey, I'm here, daddy hip hop, daddy hip hop

564
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: conversation in its truest form, bro yeap, but shout out

565
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 1: to outcast, shout out to the queens, Salt and Pepper.

566
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: For sure, I'm glad they got in, and I'm glad

567
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 1: you guys brought them up, because yeah, everybody forgetting about them.

568
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: All right, man, we'll leave it that. We'll cut you

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Speaker 1: guys next time we out. Peace. Peace,