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Speaker 1: per Second Podcast. Welcome to another episode of the France
Speaker 1: Teking Podcast. I'm your host with evening, my name is Mike,
Speaker 1: and with me I have Ken Ollo. Also we got Nick.
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 1: We're supposed to have Jalen, so y'all send him some
Speaker 1: math why he failed on us. But but yeah, today
Speaker 1: we are going to be given our thoughts on the
Speaker 1: I don't know. In Knick's words, he always said, don't
Speaker 1: know if this is a hit show. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's a hit show yet.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: All right, hit show Welcome to Darry. So let's get
Speaker 1: a quick around the room. Let's start with you, Ken,
Speaker 1: What did you think about This.
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 4: By far one of the best shows I watched this year,
Speaker 4: if not the best show that I watched this year.
Speaker 4: I thought they did a really good job. I was
Speaker 4: listening to the podcast. I do got to go catch
Speaker 4: up and catch the remaining episodes. But listening to them
Speaker 4: talk about it, some one of the people that were
Speaker 4: behind they were They're like, they're they're in it. You know,
Speaker 4: this isn't them just kind of putting something together, Like
Speaker 4: they're involved and really engaged with telling these stories.
Speaker 2: And I think that plays a part and why I
Speaker 2: feel like it's.
Speaker 4: So well done, down to the kids, you know, the
Speaker 4: horror elements everything. Man, it was a surprise to the
Speaker 4: point where I was watching it every week and I
Speaker 4: was like, now I gotta stop because I I want
Speaker 4: to just binge it all the way through because it
Speaker 4: was you know, I just want to sit there and wait.
Speaker 2: But no, I think they did a good job. So
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: What about you, Nick?
Speaker 3: I just finished it today, Like I basically started and
Speaker 3: finished it in one day.
Speaker 1: Like Ken said, one of the best shows of the Year.
Speaker 3: I do have just some personal gripes with some things,
Speaker 3: but but also, like Ken said, this is a very
Speaker 3: well thought out show, especially how its ties to the
Speaker 3: HOS Steve Stephen King universe. So yeah, there was no
Speaker 3: complaints as far as acting, cinematography and all that.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I love this. I loved it. I only
Speaker 1: stopped watching it. I stopped on episode three because I
Speaker 1: was getting really irritated waiting week two weeks. I was like, fucking,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing this. I'm gonna be patient. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: wait till it's over, and then I'm just gonna watch
Speaker 1: it all. And I'm glad I did that, because you know,
Speaker 1: nothing for me is a week to week show these days.
Speaker 1: I don't want the week shows. It's over now, you know.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this was fucking good and which you know,
Speaker 1: we'll get into it. But even with the time travel shit,
Speaker 1: which I fucking hate. I hate time travel stuff, it
Speaker 1: was fine. It worked for me. It worked for me here,
Speaker 1: So yeah, man, let's go ahead and jump on into this. Episode.
Speaker 1: One starts with us meeting Matty Clements, who's kicked out
Speaker 1: of a movie theater and then ends up hitchhiking and
Speaker 1: he asked this family to take him out of darry Nick,
Speaker 1: what'd you think about what went down with him in
Speaker 1: the car, Mike?
Speaker 3: This is probably one of the I think y'all may
Speaker 3: have already had a conversation about like shows that have
Speaker 3: like a pilot episode that's like, oh shit, I'm locked in. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like you got it because it's a TV show, So
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, like, it's not gonna go as far as
Speaker 3: the movies went. But they they said, Noah, Nick, we
Speaker 3: hbo like that ship. Mike Man, I was like, this
Speaker 3: is crazy. I don't know what's about to happen, but
Speaker 3: I'm locked in.
Speaker 1: Were you locked in too, Ken?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think it was a great way to open the show.
Speaker 4: I mean, you connect the people off rip and you're
Speaker 4: letting them know that it's not safe. It's not a
Speaker 4: safe space here, and you see them kids and I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm like.
Speaker 2: Bro, what the hell wrong with these damn kids? Like
Speaker 2: what the hell was going? And the parents this motherfucker's
Speaker 2: crazy as sound.
Speaker 4: And then they just snapped it just and then every
Speaker 4: just all hell broke lose and then that's you know,
Speaker 4: the kid was missing.
Speaker 2: I was like shit, I said Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this was a really good way to
Speaker 1: kick it off. The only thing that had me a
Speaker 1: little concern was so when she was giving birth to
Speaker 1: that baby. I was like, bro, this is this is
Speaker 1: this is crazy. What are y'all doing? But then when
Speaker 1: the baby started flying around the car, I was like,
Speaker 1: why y'all got this to BcgI budget? This looks like
Speaker 1: a drawing of a baby that y'all just threw up
Speaker 1: in the air and digitized. It was bad. The CGI
Speaker 1: was really bad. But outside of that, just like the
Speaker 1: weirdness of it, the daughter sitting back there eating the
Speaker 1: liver and then trying to fucking, you know, put it
Speaker 1: on his face or whatever. This is crazy, but it was.
Speaker 1: It was It was definitely a good way to kick
Speaker 1: it off. So after that we meet Lily Bainbridge and
Speaker 1: her friend Marge. We also meet Teddy and Phil. So
Speaker 1: Lily has a vision of Maddie reaching out to her
Speaker 1: through her sink, but then, uh, Teddy, who's Jewish, has
Speaker 1: a vision of a face and a lamp shade. What
Speaker 1: did y'all think of this? Either one of y'all.
Speaker 3: I liked the because I had to rewatch that that
Speaker 3: second episode again.
Speaker 1: Because I didn't understand the whole lamp shape thing.
Speaker 3: And then I remember his dad said that story at
Speaker 3: the dinner table when he was asking, like, what what
Speaker 3: if there's a kid that's down there, how like could
Speaker 3: they survive as ship? And his dad I thought it
Speaker 3: was gonna be real sympathetic at first, he was like, nigga,
Speaker 3: cut the ship.
Speaker 1: Reading comic books. We already been through our our his
Speaker 1: you know, our past.
Speaker 3: Our family history and all that. We ain't trying to
Speaker 3: deal with none of what you're talking about. But again,
Speaker 3: well I don't want to jump the gun, but like, yeah,
Speaker 3: meeting meeting uh the kids that initially in that second
Speaker 3: episode or that first episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I was not expecting that none of
Speaker 1: that ship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you know, I think immediately you kind
Speaker 4: of start to get an understanding of who they are
Speaker 4: and their characters, like some of them their family background,
Speaker 4: and you're prepared to ribe, you know, ride with these
Speaker 4: these these kids you know for the series, like these
Speaker 4: are the main characters and.
Speaker 2: Uh, and yeah, I like that though.
Speaker 4: I like that, you know, you get to see what
Speaker 4: may have been like real conversations that take place in
Speaker 4: certain households that were not privy to you know, I
Speaker 4: don't know if it was embellish or not, but you know, I.
Speaker 2: Thought that that was cool.
Speaker 4: But no, yeah, I thought that was interesting about the
Speaker 4: comic books put that ship up.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I was with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really liked what they did with the lamp
Speaker 1: shade thing because you know, you know, he's Jewish and
Speaker 1: that was always stories that we heard from the Holocaust
Speaker 1: was that there were people that would make lamp shades
Speaker 1: out of human skin. So I think adding that to
Speaker 1: this story was actually really really really well done and
Speaker 1: just creepy as fuck. This poor kid is trying to
Speaker 1: sleep and this goddamn lamp shade comes to life and
Speaker 1: starts talking. Imagine if he was jacking off with some
Speaker 1: shit and the land like, hey, Mike, it followed him too.
Speaker 1: I thought it was over what it let fell down
Speaker 1: on the floor, came around the Hey, we ain't good yet,
Speaker 1: but oh my god, man. So yes, they meet up
Speaker 1: with Ronnie Ronnie Grogan I think it's her last name,
Speaker 1: who believes them because she's heard kids singing in the sewer,
Speaker 1: and she brings him to the movie theater that her
Speaker 1: father works at so they can try to get some answers. Nick,
Speaker 1: what did you think about what happened in this fucking scene?
Speaker 1: Brun This is what.
Speaker 3: Because I already thought, like, Okay, they start off the
Speaker 3: episode with some crazy ship that was just to get
Speaker 3: us into the world.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna do nothing else.
Speaker 5: Man, Mike, you know how I am.
Speaker 1: I'm always about like taking niggas off the board.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They was taking.
Speaker 3: Kids off the board early early, and this is kids,
Speaker 3: like you mentioned, Mike. I'm thinking they're gonna be here
Speaker 3: for the show because we got to meet their family.
Speaker 1: This that that.
Speaker 3: Bro once I see that motherfucker smiling, And even the
Speaker 3: movie itself was crazy, like creepy crazy too, like some
Speaker 3: shit Spike would watch like that ship was like, Man,
Speaker 3: that theater. I was not expecting that at all.
Speaker 1: I was just hoping the Black Girl will survived.
Speaker 6: Mike.
Speaker 2: That was it?
Speaker 1: Ken, Did they get you with this?
Speaker 4: I didn't think they were dead bro it because who
Speaker 4: does that? Who kills kids in the first episode the pilot.
Speaker 4: I'm like, we're gonna ride with these kids for eight episodes.
Speaker 4: We're gonna figure this it ship out. We're gonna lose
Speaker 4: a couple here and there, because that's what it is.
Speaker 4: We lost them all, like everybody was gone, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: somebody's gonna wake up from a dream. No, they were
Speaker 4: completely taking off the board and I'm like, okay, this
Speaker 4: is different and I'm with it. And honestly, from there
Speaker 4: on out, I was concerned something like I don't think
Speaker 4: anybody was safe?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, bro, And that made me think, like, all right,
Speaker 3: so what it made me more interested, like what is
Speaker 3: this story? Because this clearly is it's deeper than a prequel,
Speaker 3: Like it's it's its own thing. You don't even have
Speaker 3: to worry about what you're talking about with it chapter
Speaker 3: one and.
Speaker 1: Two as far as what was re released.
Speaker 3: But Ken, I knew it was real when he ripped
Speaker 3: that motherfucker part and threw him against the uh the.
Speaker 1: Black girl, like know what to do? Talk about three D?
Speaker 1: That shit was crazy. Yeah, no, I'm with you. I
Speaker 1: think this is a hell of a way to end
Speaker 1: the episode. I was not at all expecting this. I
Speaker 1: did not think they were going to kill three fists
Speaker 1: of these damn kids. But when when the fucking the
Speaker 1: little baby flying monster thing bit that little girl's arm off,
Speaker 1: I was like Okay, I'm here for this ship because
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't like real life kids dying, of course,
Speaker 1: but in a movie, oh fuck them kids. Like what
Speaker 1: Ronnie thought she was gonna do with that hammer he tried.
Speaker 1: He was like, hey man, I'm not gonna just go out.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna at least take a baby tooth or two.
Speaker 1: You gotta have something.
Speaker 2: I was applied.
Speaker 1: She ran her little ass down there. I'm leaving.
Speaker 2: Fuck that.
Speaker 1: I met y'all yesterday. I'm not fighting a fucking flying
Speaker 1: baby demon for y'all. I'm leaving. In this episode, we
Speaker 1: also meet Major Lee Roy Handling and his friend Pauli Russo,
Speaker 1: what did y'all think about the attack that went down
Speaker 1: with him?
Speaker 2: That's when they jumped him in the.
Speaker 1: Spot, they jumped him in those gas masks or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: I thought that was good too, because now you added
Speaker 4: another element. I don't know what was going on. I
Speaker 4: don't know why outside of racism, because that's what I thought,
Speaker 4: because that he had that encounter with that white guy
Speaker 4: earlier who didn't want to salute him or whatever.
Speaker 2: So I thought that's what that was like.
Speaker 4: It was it was a racist attack by people on
Speaker 4: the base that didn't want to respect, that didn't respect him.
Speaker 3: Yep, Ken, this ain't the delivery world we'll be talking about, bro,
Speaker 3: That's what.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna get more into it, Mike. I know
Speaker 1: what your questions.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I was happy at first, kid, because I'm like,
Speaker 3: he gonna mean you know what I mean. But yeah,
Speaker 3: that that attack at the base. One, I realized his
Speaker 3: friend was Rudy. He was that's an A one dude.
Speaker 1: Is Rudy?
Speaker 3: Oh po, Yeah, poly, he's an A one dude, even
Speaker 3: though he got his ass B two. I thought that
Speaker 3: that seems like I thought it was like some Russian
Speaker 3: spies or something like that, you know, around this era,
Speaker 3: this is everybody's trying to fight for uh for I
Speaker 3: guess the nuclear world and all that shit.
Speaker 1: But I didn't really know what else to think.
Speaker 3: I was just like, there's so many different things happening
Speaker 3: in these first couple episodes. I was just like, all right,
Speaker 3: let me just settle real quick and just see. You know,
Speaker 3: I'll figure it out later, but this is very interesting.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yep. I wasn't as interested in the Leeroy story.
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I don't really care about you.
Speaker 1: I was way more interested in the kid's story. But
Speaker 1: episode two introduces us to Hanlan's wife, Charlotte, who has
Speaker 1: played I believe that's the girl from Lola, right, is
Speaker 1: it Taylor Page?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love I love my folks and stuff. But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and get this out the way.
Speaker 1: I thought she was terrible. Really, I thought she was abominable,
Speaker 1: this whole abominable. Oh my god, anytime she had to
Speaker 1: be scared, I thought she was. I hate to say
Speaker 1: it like that, but I just did not. I liked
Speaker 1: her in Zola, and I saw her in something else
Speaker 1: after that, which I cannot remember. But I liked her
Speaker 1: in that. I hated her in this. I don't think
Speaker 1: she's the type of actress for this type of role.
Speaker 3: I didn't mind her. But now that you bring it up, like,
Speaker 3: I didn't realize how much she really didn't bring to
Speaker 3: the story acting wise, Like the part itself was supposed
Speaker 3: to be very like like a bridge to a.
Speaker 1: Lot of different stories, but she was took apart.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but at the same time like her, it's not
Speaker 3: like she's like she blew me away or like, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: this put her on a different map or whatever.
Speaker 1: It was just kind of like she just did her thing,
Speaker 1: and you know it's kind of man, I couldn't. I
Speaker 1: couldn't do it with Charlotte. But she ends up she
Speaker 1: breaks up a fight downtown, which I don't think it
Speaker 1: really led to much. But we also meet their son,
Speaker 1: Will who's he's struggling to fit in, but he makes
Speaker 1: friends with this little Cuban kid named Rich. We also
Speaker 1: meet Dick hallerin who is he's helping the military investigate
Speaker 1: something in the woods. So did y'all know who Dick
Speaker 1: Hollarand was.
Speaker 3: I'm not deep into the Stephen kingshit, but like I
Speaker 3: did some research afterwards.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh that's again the Easter egg ties
Speaker 1: and all that shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, not off rip.
Speaker 4: But when they said the name, it wasn't like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is the guy from such as that.
Speaker 2: But you know, yeah, eventually I was like when I
Speaker 2: saw after the fact.
Speaker 4: I was like, damn, then connect and all this This
Speaker 4: whole Stephen King world is interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The Shining is definitely one of my favorite Kubrick films.
Speaker 1: So when they said Dick haller And I was like,
Speaker 1: that's not this I sometimes forget that's a Stephen King's story,
Speaker 1: but after he started showing his powers, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: that's who that is. So I thought that was really
Speaker 1: fucking cool to connect that. What did y'all think of
Speaker 1: the nightmare that Ronnie has of her mother, the whole
Speaker 1: womb and umbilical cord thing that was fucked up? I
Speaker 1: was so glad I watched that in the daytime.
Speaker 2: I was like, I.
Speaker 1: Didn't want to go to bed thinking about that. Shit
Speaker 1: that was like and she was in that nightmare for
Speaker 1: a minute, and I was wondering.
Speaker 3: I was like, when is her parents gonna bust in
Speaker 3: and like say something like she literally had.
Speaker 1: To bite the fucker off, Like it was crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, it added even more to the show because
Speaker 4: I felt like this was so creative and how they
Speaker 4: did this, and you know, I just I was just like,
Speaker 4: how the hell are you think of some ship like that?
Speaker 4: You're you're bone like, you're attached to this monster umbilical
Speaker 4: cord and this motherfucker is whinding you in with the
Speaker 4: umbilical cord and you see the teeth just chomping and
Speaker 4: you're trying to bro and when she bit that motherfucker.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 4: I was like, yo, I said, Ronnie. Ronnie is like, nah,
Speaker 4: you not about it.
Speaker 3: You ain't getting easy. It was three nightmares and one Mike.
Speaker 3: It was she turned. She pulled the covers over to
Speaker 3: where she was like trapped and drowning and all that
Speaker 3: ship and then she was spit out like it was
Speaker 3: a birth. So, like you said, the kid the trap
Speaker 3: thing where it was a mouth to it, and then.
Speaker 1: The motherfucker got big. That's the That's the creepyest ship
Speaker 1: to me. It's like when he gets big about the
Speaker 1: tower over you and eat you.
Speaker 2: Like, man, here's the thing.
Speaker 4: I just saw some kids killed in the first episode.
Speaker 4: I didn't know, I ron who was gonna make it
Speaker 4: out of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it kills people, bro. It don't fuck around.
Speaker 1: It kills kids, damn it. Yeah. Yeah that that shit.
Speaker 1: That shit I thought was was really dope. And this
Speaker 1: cgi actually looked really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what's going on if certain things had
Speaker 1: to be like reshot or what, but yeah, I thought
Speaker 1: this scene was incredible. But we meet Chief Bowers. He's
Speaker 1: the white dude that that is like the head cop
Speaker 1: or whatever, and he's being pressured to find out who's
Speaker 1: killing the kids, So he blackmails Lily and uses her
Speaker 1: words to arrest Charlotte's father, Hank, for the murder, and
Speaker 1: after having another vision of her father as a pickle monster,
Speaker 1: Lily is sent to a nuthouse that she had been
Speaker 1: in before. So what did y'all think of the scene
Speaker 1: with her at the grocery store?
Speaker 2: I thought that was stuff, man, Mike.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: I would have checked myself in real for real bro,
Speaker 2: if I saw that ship.
Speaker 4: Bro again, it is twisted, demented. I think the way
Speaker 4: they psychologically fuck with these kids, Like her dad died
Speaker 4: and the running joke is that he's in a picklebar
Speaker 4: jar whatever.
Speaker 1: The idiot pickle bar.
Speaker 4: What And that's what it did to her and she's
Speaker 4: she looks crazy like so I don't I don't blame her,
Speaker 4: but Yo, this ship was, this ship was fucked up.
Speaker 2: They didn't have to do literly like that.
Speaker 1: Man. I was getting weak when they had was it
Speaker 1: Maddie on the.
Speaker 2: But no?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that my thing was, bro. I was like brouck
Speaker 3: Lily from Move Moving Forward because Ronnie I love when
Speaker 3: Ronnie Custer ass out at the love. She's like nigga
Speaker 3: that they about to take my daddy away because your
Speaker 3: goofy has to want to tell the truth.
Speaker 1: I tell the truth.
Speaker 3: I'm going back to the say the solum, Well guess what, look, honey,
Speaker 3: you'll ask back in the sailor Solum you lied or whatever. Like.
Speaker 1: To me, it was just like, bro, fuck hurt, I'm
Speaker 1: with you. But I also was like, I think they're
Speaker 1: doing a good job with how kids would think. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know, I think they like they didn't try to
Speaker 1: make the kids too mature like stranger things.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I think that they did a really good job of
Speaker 1: making these kids, you know, kids. But I was definitely like, oh, Lily,
Speaker 1: you're a piece of shit, right, You're a piece of shit.
Speaker 1: But we found out that the attack on Major Handling
Speaker 1: was just a test see how he deals with fear
Speaker 1: because the military needs his help finding something that's been
Speaker 1: buried within dairy, which is something that feeds on fear.
Speaker 1: And that's how the episode ends. So where y'all locked
Speaker 1: in on this second one? Yeah, I think the first
Speaker 1: two the same time, if I remember correctly.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 4: But but yeah, I was you just killed a bunch
Speaker 4: of kids in the first one. You put these other
Speaker 4: two kids in a in a terrible uh Nightmary situation,
Speaker 4: and I thought was definitely traumatizing for them. You showed
Speaker 4: us and told us that Lily was crazy and that
Speaker 4: what the way the chief got her to do what
Speaker 4: she did made sense because, like you said, it's a kid,
Speaker 4: so she don't know any better. But Ronnie's reaction was
Speaker 4: was valid as well because that was fucked.
Speaker 2: Up and she doesn't have to live with the repercussions
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 4: But for her it was like either I go back
Speaker 4: to the Loun and then you end up going back
Speaker 4: to the loon and being after all, like it didn't
Speaker 4: even work.
Speaker 2: So but nah, yeah, I was.
Speaker 4: I was all in because now I'm like, okay, and
Speaker 4: this is some shit the government will do. Try to
Speaker 4: find a fucking weapon, you know, some shit they don't understand.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, okay, well this is different. What are
Speaker 4: they going to try to do with this? And how
Speaker 4: does the government tie into every everything?
Speaker 2: So yeah, I was, I was. I was all in.
Speaker 3: Same for you, Nick, Yeah, I'm I'm I'm locked in.
Speaker 3: We're gonna get to Ronnie daddy, I know. But I
Speaker 3: was like, there a kid, I was, I was off
Speaker 3: by fight the power ship early on in this series,
Speaker 3: until we got to know that Daddy a little bit better.
Speaker 2: His own night man.
Speaker 1: He was, he was, He was definitely a whole I
Speaker 1: was like, will y'all please kill this man because I
Speaker 1: can't stand his d So.
Speaker 3: Much shit happened because of him, Yes, so much, because
Speaker 3: especially towards the last couple of episodes.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's seeing me off, but we will get to that.
Speaker 1: So episode three, it opens up with a little white
Speaker 1: boy who's who befriends this little indigenous girl. They hang
Speaker 1: out and they're attacked in the woods, and we later
Speaker 1: see them meeting up as adults and it's actually Shaw
Speaker 1: and this woman named Rose. Rose is the leader of
Speaker 1: one of the local indigenous tribes who's trying to stop
Speaker 1: the army from messing around on their land. Was any
Speaker 1: of this part interesting to y'all, because I'll say it
Speaker 1: wasn't really that interesting for me.
Speaker 3: I liked the actor who plays Sean because he always
Speaker 3: played like he he's an ally of black people.
Speaker 1: Until you realize he really was, Like he was like
Speaker 1: that in Black Light they kid.
Speaker 3: I know he watched that show, but now shoot is
Speaker 3: a lion ass motherfucker. He's one of the best lives
Speaker 3: I've seen on TV in a long time because everything
Speaker 3: you like, every scene and everything you see, he seemed
Speaker 3: like he tell him the genuine truth and until you
Speaker 3: see the facts. But but yeah, I did like that
Speaker 3: fact because I was when I was like, who is
Speaker 3: this kid? I was like, why do we need to
Speaker 3: see another kid die from it? Like we're already seen
Speaker 3: that in the first couple of episodes. But then like
Speaker 3: how they tied it together, I was like, oh, they.
Speaker 1: Is really interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they did a good job of tying it together,
Speaker 4: you know, making that that story in the beginning makes
Speaker 4: sense and bringing that back around him going in still
Speaker 4: being remembering.
Speaker 2: Who she was.
Speaker 4: I'm giving us some more information about darry and how
Speaker 4: when you leave you forget and then when you come
Speaker 4: back and remember everything, and you know, he really liked her.
Speaker 2: It seemed like h and you know.
Speaker 4: That monster chasing on her saving him. But yeah, he
Speaker 4: still was on some bullshit. You're right, Nick, He went
Speaker 4: up there kind of wooded a little bit. She was like, oh,
Speaker 4: ship you back, you know it's on, And he was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, I remembered you because I gotta do some
Speaker 4: funk ship and I need I need to get it
Speaker 4: from you, so.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm working on fixing the pipes, right, just
Speaker 3: lying when the government ever fixed some pipes.
Speaker 2: And she knew he was lying.
Speaker 1: Yeah she did, she's she was, She's very smart. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't stand him from the second he
Speaker 1: shot up on the screen. I was like, oh, he's
Speaker 1: a piece of ship. But uh, Lily ends up getting
Speaker 1: released from the nuthouse and after getting Ronnie's forgiveness, they
Speaker 1: decided to team up with Will and Rich to get
Speaker 1: evidence of the thing that they're seeing. So, Nick, what
Speaker 1: did you think about the whole thing with the with
Speaker 1: the graveyard and them trying to get pictures?
Speaker 2: Man, they I don't know, Mike.
Speaker 3: They're doing a good job of this uh d I
Speaker 3: kids group, but I don't know if they represented the
Speaker 3: group well because Rich was just saying bullshit. Also also
Speaker 3: possible like really cultural, like important heritage. But he was
Speaker 3: making a seat like he was pulling out his and
Speaker 3: it was gonna get the kids killed for it. So I.
Speaker 2: Love it.
Speaker 1: I thought my uncle said it. Maybe not, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's like you said. He was like, Na, my cousin
Speaker 3: told me it was like even no, I thought I thought.
Speaker 1: Will was dead.
Speaker 3: I thought Will was dead. I was like, damn, they
Speaker 3: got money the only boy too.
Speaker 4: I was like, man, yeah, they they they set me
Speaker 4: up to. I thought Will was was a goner.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 4: I was like, damn, I can't. I would have respected it,
Speaker 4: but I was like, I can't believe they did this.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 4: Like the black Kid already like come on, man, like,
Speaker 4: you can't do my man like that.
Speaker 2: He was so so innocent, you know, and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Really smart cemetery.
Speaker 2: But all of.
Speaker 4: This was really dope because they were paddling their asses
Speaker 4: off and it was just fucking with them.
Speaker 2: That's what I love.
Speaker 4: It was just fun with because they could have killed
Speaker 4: him at any given moment, but it was just fucking
Speaker 4: with them.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 4: It was very adventurous, you know, gooney ish like just
Speaker 4: seeing them kind of going that. So for a while
Speaker 4: with the ghost and stuff, I was like, Okay, they're
Speaker 4: gonna kind of make it out this until it looked
Speaker 4: like they were not. But nah, this was this was
Speaker 4: This was definitely dope. But again I didn't I was
Speaker 4: concerned for him. After the first episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really liked this scene too, and I definitely
Speaker 1: thought I thought all of them were about to get it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it definitely felt like Stranger Things mixed with
Speaker 1: like Ghostbusters or, like you said, Goonies. I like, I
Speaker 1: like how they did it, and it was just for
Speaker 1: a dark show. There was like a little bit of fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: him racing through the cemetery and the little ghost like
Speaker 1: popping up. I just like how they did it. It
Speaker 1: felt kind of like Beetlejuice a little bit. It was cool.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this episode kind of ends with Major Handlin,
Speaker 1: the guy that y'all don't like, it's ordered to take
Speaker 1: Dick Hallarin up in a helicopter. Actually, no, this it
Speaker 1: didn't end this way. This is just like a separate story,
Speaker 1: but it takes them up in a helicopter so they
Speaker 1: can get a better reading of what was going on
Speaker 1: and we get to see a little bit more of
Speaker 1: Dick Hallarin's abilities. Was this cool to either one of y'all?
Speaker 4: It was all right, I just like this mofuger crazy,
Speaker 4: and I think, you know, I'm like, okay, we kind
Speaker 4: of need to move forward a little bit with what's
Speaker 4: going on here, because all he was doing was just
Speaker 4: sitting around just looking at shit like, you know, its
Speaker 4: just bug out and shit like that. Bro, Like, come on,
Speaker 4: but yeah he was. He was freaking out and all
Speaker 4: kind of shit like that. But I figured at some
Speaker 4: point it was going to pay off later on down
Speaker 4: the road. But and I was just trying to be
Speaker 4: a little bit more patient with it.
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Speaker 1: All right, Right, as we move into episode four, the
Speaker 1: kids take the photos to the cops, but the images
Speaker 1: don't show up, and later Leroy takes Will fishing and
Speaker 1: some crazy ship goes down while they're fishing. Nick, where
Speaker 1: did you think about what went down while they were fishing.
Speaker 3: I knew something fun that was gonna happen, just because
Speaker 3: when as soon as he said I gotta go to
Speaker 3: the to get some more, I guess what bait or whatever.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, yeah, I was like Will probably did, and.
Speaker 3: It would be fucked up, Mike, for a nigga to
Speaker 3: die drowning and ship yeah, because nobody is suspected me
Speaker 3: a mythical creature doing that.
Speaker 1: Ship kid, that's just they said, that's just the stereotype.
Speaker 2: Look like swimming.
Speaker 1: But I really liked.
Speaker 3: I really liked the relationship between the father's son because
Speaker 3: you could tell the father really wanted to create like
Speaker 3: a bond like he had with his dad, but this is.
Speaker 1: A new generation and like he can't really relate to
Speaker 1: his kid.
Speaker 3: Remember that awkward moment they had with the telescope when
Speaker 3: they first got there, Like it was it was it
Speaker 3: was nice to kind of see them like try to
Speaker 3: bond over like you know, him liking a girl and
Speaker 3: stuff like that. But I was more shocked when Will
Speaker 3: was like, nigga, like I saw you burning up and
Speaker 3: this this town is fucked up. I don't know, Like Ken,
Speaker 3: if your son says some shit like that to you.
Speaker 3: That's the thing that I was trying to really take away, Mike, because,
Speaker 3: like you said something earlier about like thinking like these
Speaker 3: are kids, and these kids rationalized like kids. But as
Speaker 3: a parent hearing your child say some crazy stuff like
Speaker 3: that and then seeing the bruises, like, how would you
Speaker 3: be able to react.
Speaker 1: To this.
Speaker 4: The physical evidence, like that's you've got to believe it.
Speaker 4: It doesn't make sense. None of it made sense. But
Speaker 4: it was enough for him to go talk to Hallary
Speaker 4: about it because I also could have happened, you know,
Speaker 4: especially in the water.
Speaker 2: The water's not hot, so I don't I don't know
Speaker 2: how it could have happened.
Speaker 4: And you know, Hallerin got powers already, so you know
Speaker 4: it's something going on in this place. You just don't
Speaker 4: know what because up to this point he's just the soldier.
Speaker 2: He just follows orders. That's all he does.
Speaker 4: Both of them actually, so they blindly follow orders as
Speaker 4: the military, you know, trains you to do, and that's
Speaker 4: what he's been doing. But now starting to have an
Speaker 4: impact on his family, his kid. He's detached because that's
Speaker 4: probably also part of the military maybe not part of
Speaker 4: the military code, but you know, military followers are kind
Speaker 4: of like that too, where they're very rigid, you know,
Speaker 4: and you don't get a lot of my dad was
Speaker 4: in the military, you don't get a lot of emotional
Speaker 4: support from them, so and they have to kind of
Speaker 4: learn that sort of bed And in my case, it
Speaker 4: didn't happen until my dad was I was an adult.
Speaker 4: My dad was older, so I could relate to that
Speaker 4: and just trying to find something to bud. He didn't
Speaker 4: even want to go fishing with the kid bro. You know,
Speaker 4: his wife had to make him go out there. So
Speaker 4: now I think this was a good moment.
Speaker 2: I think it was. It was it was enough to
Speaker 2: convince him that something else was going on beyond just
Speaker 2: the mission. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought the way they did this scene was really, really,
Speaker 1: really dope, especially because you know, after Dick hallerin, I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, they're throwing in people that are in
Speaker 1: the other movies. So I started looking motherfucker's up the
Speaker 1: second their names came up. So the second Will's name
Speaker 1: came up, I was I looked him up and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's y'all probably don't remember the little black kid in
Speaker 1: the IT movie, but that's his father and he dies
Speaker 1: in the IT movie. Spoiler alert if you haven't seen
Speaker 1: the It movie from years ago, but he dies in
Speaker 1: a fire in the movie. So the thing that was
Speaker 1: in the water that was like, You're gonna die in
Speaker 1: a fire. I thought that was crazy because it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: so this thing is actually like almost like telling him
Speaker 1: the future that this is the way you're gonna die.
Speaker 1: So I really like this scene. But in the next scene,
Speaker 1: the kids figure out that the entity that's attacking them
Speaker 1: feeds on fear, and then after seeing a video about
Speaker 1: parasites that can attack that can attack the eyes, Marge
Speaker 1: has a vision that her eyes are bulging out, which
Speaker 1: causes her to kind of like injure one of her eyes. So,
Speaker 1: oh shit, I should have done that anyway, she heard
Speaker 1: herself again. I'm Gladspike age. What y'all think of this scene?
Speaker 1: I'll start with you, ken Man.
Speaker 4: You could see the fracture relationship that Marge has with Lily.
Speaker 2: Lily is, you know, the.
Speaker 4: Crazy kid in the school because of what happened to
Speaker 4: her father, and mar has moved on with the popular
Speaker 4: kids now, so she's part of the end crowd and it's.
Speaker 2: Starting to bother her.
Speaker 4: So she's talking to Lily and as you know, she's
Speaker 4: seeing shit that ain't there, and you know, it's we've
Speaker 4: seen it in shows before where somebody's gonna walk in
Speaker 4: and she's doing this what appears to be a horrific
Speaker 4: act and uh, and I thought you were gonna send
Speaker 4: her back to the to the nutthouse.
Speaker 2: But it was it was good man.
Speaker 4: Like I was like, how like, I was surprised she
Speaker 4: didn't do more damage. But you know, what we were
Speaker 4: seeing we wasn't seeing is actually what she was doing.
Speaker 4: So it kind of put us put us in in
Speaker 4: the mind of what she was actually experiencing because when
Speaker 4: we started in the next episode, I was like, that's
Speaker 4: all she did. So but na, it was still really
Speaker 4: really dope and once again this thing is just fucking
Speaker 4: with these kids, and it was a good way to
Speaker 4: bring March into the fold as well.
Speaker 1: You agree with that, Nick, Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 3: I really respect I gained a little bit more respectfully
Speaker 3: when she was dist and something from Mars because as
Speaker 3: an audience member, we see that Marge is like being
Speaker 3: a two face friend type shit, you know, with the
Speaker 3: what were they called the cupcakes the patty cakes? Yeah,
Speaker 3: something like yeah, but like the scene in the bathroom
Speaker 3: in her eyes like coming down like that was like crazy.
Speaker 3: And then but my thing was like why does she
Speaker 3: go to those lengths to like did she not realized
Speaker 3: cutting your eyes going hurt you? Like you know you
Speaker 3: you couldn't not feel those thisspite your face. It's like
Speaker 3: that type of ship where like, again, she's a kid,
Speaker 3: so I guess, Mike, you right, but still going to
Speaker 3: the woodshop classes to saw off your eyes was crazy?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. So. I ended up watching this episode
Speaker 1: twice because this is where I kind of stopped and
Speaker 1: had to go back. But like I think if the
Speaker 1: first time I watched it, I didn't I didn't notice
Speaker 1: the part in the science class with the parasites, So
Speaker 1: when her eyes were bugging out like that, I thought
Speaker 1: they were just supposed to be her eyes, but that
Speaker 1: was actually supposed to be the parasite. That's how the
Speaker 1: parasite looks. So when she cut him off, it made
Speaker 1: sense because she was actually cutting the parasite off. I
Speaker 1: think she damaged the one eye because she had that
Speaker 1: tool or whatever that she was jabbing into it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's what fucked her eye up. The sawing off thing.
Speaker 1: I don't think really did anything got you.
Speaker 3: But and on top of that, Mike, I don't know
Speaker 3: if you noticed this in your rewatch too, Like the
Speaker 3: glare on her glasses were always like yellowish, kind of
Speaker 3: like its eyes. And I was thinking that marsh was
Speaker 3: like a I thought she was like a pseudo demon
Speaker 3: this whole you know what I'm saying, I'm expecting her to,
Speaker 3: you know, change it, because I was wondering, like because
Speaker 3: even when Rich saw her walking slowly and shit, and
Speaker 3: like we found out that he's attracted to her. Like
Speaker 3: her glasses, the glare on her glasses were real yellowish
Speaker 3: like it was just creepy, like it stood out amongst anything.
Speaker 1: I did not notice that that is interesting.
Speaker 3: So when her eyes came I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: that was I guess foreshadowing that moment because she and
Speaker 3: then she always talked about her glasses like making her
Speaker 3: eyes big or look big and shit like that.
Speaker 1: Well they definitely got big. Like a motherfucker, Will sees
Speaker 1: a clown outside of his house and when his dad
Speaker 1: goes outside, he ends up. The clown is gone, but
Speaker 1: he sees a red balloon that's floating up in the air,
Speaker 1: and this leads him to storm into his boss's office
Speaker 1: to find out what the fuck is going on. And
Speaker 1: this is where we find Hollerin using his powers to
Speaker 1: go into the mom the roses nephew Daniel, and this
Speaker 1: is here that we see the origins of the entity.
Speaker 1: So was this part cool to y'all seeing where the
Speaker 1: where the entity actually came from. Yeah, I fucked with it.
Speaker 1: I fucked with it.
Speaker 3: It reminded me ken like how Black Panther, the first
Speaker 3: Black Panther movie starts with the asteroid, but this.
Speaker 1: Is a funk though version of it. But like, I
Speaker 1: like how it was like this, this entity has been
Speaker 1: here for them.
Speaker 3: They're like dinosaurs the same, it seemed like until like
Speaker 3: the discovery of man and then like I love to
Speaker 3: see like the the creatures that imitated back then and
Speaker 3: how the indigenous people handle like that songs like Man
Speaker 3: from Sinners to this, like indigious people have been on track,
Speaker 3: like you need.
Speaker 1: To we need to listen to them.
Speaker 3: They even trying to tell us about ship for a minute,
Speaker 3: and niggas ain't paying attention. So I loved hearing that
Speaker 3: story and I loved even seeing the relationship Roles had
Speaker 3: with Daniel as far as like how we see those
Speaker 3: stories be passed down within their clan, their tribe, and
Speaker 3: how they make sure like even the kids, like Bro
Speaker 3: recite it back to me like word for word, bar
Speaker 3: for bar, Like I need to know that you understand
Speaker 3: this ship too, because it's that serious. So I love
Speaker 3: that that history lesson.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this this this was interesting because you know,
Speaker 4: I was wondering, Okay, so if we're doing like almost
Speaker 4: like an origin story of this entity it, how are
Speaker 4: you going to tell it to where it makes sense
Speaker 4: and is believable because we, from what I remember, didn't
Speaker 4: know anything about this thing, so this was all relatively new.
Speaker 2: So I thought it was dope how they told them
Speaker 2: And yeah, Nikki right, like.
Speaker 4: They're all there, they're they're always tapped in, you know,
Speaker 4: and of course nobody really believed them. But I think
Speaker 4: the brilliance of how they protecting themselves, realizing the power
Speaker 4: of the dagger, realizing it got got too powerful, and
Speaker 4: all this other stuff was all really really interesting. And
Speaker 4: just using this as you know, a jump off point
Speaker 4: for you know, getting us to the end of the
Speaker 4: episode with the dead Wood and the west Wood and
Speaker 4: all the other stuff, So I like, I liked what
Speaker 4: they did here, and I think it's still mysterious enough,
Speaker 4: like there's still stuff that I feel like we don't know,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: All we know is it just came from the sky.
Speaker 1: I think they did show this in one of the
Speaker 1: movies because I feel like I already knew that it
Speaker 1: came from space. Okay, but I've actually I'm actually going
Speaker 1: to rewatch those movies, probably tomorrow, because this made me
Speaker 1: want to go back and you know, revisit. But but yeah,
Speaker 1: it basically shows the countrm otter space and it killed
Speaker 1: some some folks, and you know, every time it kills,
Speaker 1: it gets stronger. But they were able to actually imprison it.
Speaker 1: So in the next scene, Charlotte meets up with punk
Speaker 1: ass whole ass Hank right and discovers that punk ass
Speaker 1: whole ass Hank was fucking around with some married white woman,
Speaker 1: which is why he couldn't tell the cops where. I
Speaker 1: was like like, like this this made me. If I
Speaker 1: had a desk full of stuff, I was gonna kick
Speaker 1: everything off the desk. I was like, Mike, I'm thinking this.
Speaker 3: Is some crazy ship like because remember he was She
Speaker 3: was like don't you want to see your your daughter?
Speaker 1: Don't you want to see you? Don't think I want that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, oh, it must be deeper than rap.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: He said, Because at first I thought I was like
Speaker 3: maybe again maybe, I was like, is he talking about
Speaker 3: his own sexuality? He didn't want to, you know, come
Speaker 3: out this way and all that stuff. And then when
Speaker 3: it was, he said, I'm sucking a married white woman
Speaker 3: and I don't know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: To her, let alone me. I was. If I was hurt,
Speaker 1: I would have walked down and said, locked his ass,
Speaker 1: sit up tonight. Things.
Speaker 2: You gave up.
Speaker 3: You gave up your freedom, You're protecting your own daughter,
Speaker 3: livelihood and everything. You're the only black nigga in town
Speaker 3: with his own business, run the theater and shit, and
Speaker 3: people funck with you for.
Speaker 1: A white woman brown.
Speaker 3: I was he I paused this episode, but I had
Speaker 3: I turned it off. I had to go watch something else.
Speaker 1: I was upset. I was like, come on, man, this
Speaker 1: is really what we're doing right now. I mean, I
Speaker 1: do think I do think that they and I'll get
Speaker 1: your your opinion a second. D I do think that
Speaker 1: they did a good job with representing how this would
Speaker 1: have gone down back then, because he said, he's like,
Speaker 1: they would have killed me and her, which is true,
Speaker 1: but knowing that I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say
Speaker 1: where I was because they're gonna kill you in jail, bro,
Speaker 1: So why don't you go ahead and just be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was, I was fucking. I was fucking this white woman,
Speaker 1: Like what are we doing? This is the only aspect
Speaker 1: of this episode.
Speaker 2: That I was just like, I don't like this. I
Speaker 2: didn't like it. It made sense because I'm like, bro,
Speaker 2: why the hell you're not telling them where they are?
Speaker 2: And if there's.
Speaker 4: Anything to be scared of back then in that time,
Speaker 4: Nick is telling white people you're sleeping with a white woman. Facts,
Speaker 4: that's married. Facts to the point where in his mind
Speaker 4: he thought that he would rather go to jail because
Speaker 4: he thought he was saving his daughter. I still was
Speaker 4: trying to play it out in my head about what
Speaker 4: would happen if he did just tell them the truth,
Speaker 4: because it would have gotten him out of the jail.
Speaker 4: But you're right, they were gonna kill him anyway.
Speaker 2: They tried to kill him.
Speaker 4: Later on, he was a dead man either way, So
Speaker 4: he would have gotten out of jail, but he damn
Speaker 4: he ain't free now. But it would have been a rap.
Speaker 4: So that was definitely the thing he was scared of
Speaker 4: the most. He may have survived the fact that there
Speaker 4: was a white woman, but a white married woman, and
Speaker 4: they let him have a business.
Speaker 2: Out of all the negroes in this city. We let
Speaker 2: you do this. We gave you this privilege, and this
Speaker 2: is how you portray us. Was like, let's ask up.
Speaker 3: But he's an adult, so Mike, I don't have to
Speaker 3: do the kiddie filter with him as an adult black
Speaker 3: man in that time with like and you're singing like
Speaker 3: he only got him and his sassy ass mama, can't I.
Speaker 1: Fuck with them all?
Speaker 3: When she was she was cussing his ass out from
Speaker 3: the early on this see this series. I wish we
Speaker 3: saw more of her, but like, you should notice what
Speaker 3: you're risking if you even mess with her?
Speaker 1: Why even risk that? Yeah, they didn't give me enough
Speaker 1: for me to buy into this, because I mean, if
Speaker 1: they were in love, I didn't feel it, you know,
Speaker 1: So they didn't give me enough for this, So I
Speaker 1: I feel like they were putting it on a little
Speaker 1: thick with the just so y'all know we're in racist times.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, we got it. I didn't need y'all
Speaker 1: turning this guy into an absolute buffoon for this white chick.
Speaker 1: I just didn't need it. But Small Gripe, Small Gripe
Speaker 1: Episode five starts off with the kids and they go
Speaker 1: back to their meeting place and who's there, our boy Mattie.
Speaker 1: I don't know why he was silver, but I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm confused about this, Like why does he look like
Speaker 1: fucking cee three po or some shit. I don't get it,
Speaker 1: but he was silver. And he convinces him that one
Speaker 1: of the kids, Phil is still alive in the sewers
Speaker 1: and that they should all go try to rescue him.
Speaker 1: So they take some of Lily's mom's diazepan and they
Speaker 1: go into the tunnels, only discover that Maddie is actually
Speaker 1: it and all of their friends are dead. So who
Speaker 1: here was surprised by this?
Speaker 3: Not?
Speaker 1: I said the cat.
Speaker 3: Because to me, first of all, Lily talking about something
Speaker 3: I know how we can be feared.
Speaker 1: Let's pop a perk, white girl exactly. That was hilarious.
Speaker 3: And my thing is this kid we know for a fact,
Speaker 3: at this point it kills kids literly know for a fact,
Speaker 3: if anybody.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 3: When Maddy was like, no, don't go to the cops,
Speaker 3: don't tell I don't want them to send me back
Speaker 3: to my daddy. I'd rather go to he said, I'd
Speaker 3: rather go back to it to my daddy. I would
Speaker 3: have asked questions like, wait, hold on, what say it again?
Speaker 3: You want to go to a demon clown? Then you're happy.
Speaker 3: This ain't Matt, This ain't this because ain't nobody gonna
Speaker 3: say no? One would ever say that.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: No, I get Lily being stupid because she's been that
Speaker 4: way for damn near all the episodes. Will is smart,
Speaker 4: Ronnie is smart, Mars just got there, and Rich Richard,
Speaker 4: which is a little bright himself. I was so disappointed
Speaker 4: and definitely rich and especially Ronnie. This kid right here
Speaker 4: is your dad's get out of jail free card.
Speaker 2: Insist that you go to the police. There's no reason
Speaker 2: the other ones.
Speaker 4: I know, I get it, But Ronnie, you have been
Speaker 4: cussing everybody out since your dad got locked up, and.
Speaker 2: You went along with this plan. When this kid could
Speaker 2: get your dad out of jail. This is all you need.
Speaker 2: This is proof he could go at least tell the
Speaker 2: truth because you saw it and everybody saw it. He's alive. Well, no,
Speaker 2: this kid wasn't part of the wait, he wasn't in
Speaker 2: the theater thing right, No.
Speaker 1: Need to say where where the dead kids are. He
Speaker 1: can say that it wasn't exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. So either way, go
Speaker 4: take it. Take them to the police, because that that's
Speaker 4: that's what you needed. And she she was like, all right,
Speaker 4: well out and take a pill with you too.
Speaker 1: And Mike, we also now I'm thinking about we didn't
Speaker 1: never we didn't see Maddie take any of the pills. No,
Speaker 1: we did, we did?
Speaker 4: We did?
Speaker 2: We did? He did?
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I actually went back and when I was
Speaker 1: making the notes, I actually went to check that specifically,
Speaker 1: and yeah, he took them. Okay, okay, yeah, No. This
Speaker 1: part irritated me too because I was just like, he
Speaker 1: doesn't want to go to the The thing about it
Speaker 1: is is like I there was no way for them
Speaker 1: to do this to where we wouldn't think that that
Speaker 1: was not Maddie. But I like what they did anyway.
Speaker 1: You know, I understood why the kids believed that it
Speaker 1: was Maddie, but at the same time, I was like, y'all,
Speaker 1: little fuckers are stupid. This motherfucker said, don't go to
Speaker 1: the cops. That's a first red flag unless he's black
Speaker 1: to the cop something's wrong with him. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: was like, that's that's definitely it. But yeah, I thought
Speaker 1: the way that they did this whole scene where they
Speaker 1: go down there and the body start floating up and
Speaker 1: Maddie's head opens up, I thought this shit was dope, man, really,
Speaker 1: really really dope. But so Handlin discovers that the plan.
Speaker 1: Will Leroy discovers that the plan that Shaw and the
Speaker 1: military have is they're gonna free the entity so they
Speaker 1: can control it, which sounds like some fucking US military
Speaker 1: shit yep. And they're sent on a mission to a
Speaker 1: house where the entity resides. While down there, they actually
Speaker 1: run across these little dumb ass, fucking kids. As they're
Speaker 1: running away from it and Maddie and whatever the fuck
Speaker 1: else they saw down there, Leroy thinks that his son
Speaker 1: that he sees is actually fake because they're told if
Speaker 1: you see anything down there that's weird, shoot it. So
Speaker 1: he goes to shoot but ends up killing his friend.
Speaker 2: Paully.
Speaker 3: Was this sad nick I shed a tell for Polly,
Speaker 3: like Paul was like, because Polly was the real.
Speaker 1: He was like, listen, it's okay, it's my time to go.
Speaker 3: He was like, just make it count, yeah, because it's
Speaker 3: like it's like my thing was thinking like he had
Speaker 3: the worst case scenario on the other end because he
Speaker 3: was gonna.
Speaker 6: Shoot his son, like he was legit gonna pop because
Speaker 6: he already popped his wife, which was he was correcting
Speaker 6: that one remember the right right right here yep, So
Speaker 6: he already popped his wife, so you know, he was
Speaker 6: gonna shoot his son.
Speaker 1: So like Polly taking the bullet was. Man, that was sad.
Speaker 3: But the funny thing when the when the other troopers
Speaker 3: were in the sewer, the two that died because of Uncle.
Speaker 1: Sam, observed that you all deserves that shoot this motherfucker
Speaker 1: because of Uncle Sam. That's a hilarrious They died for America.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they set it up.
Speaker 4: I think they did a good job of setting it up,
Speaker 4: using his wife to create doubt and you know him
Speaker 4: not believing it.
Speaker 2: So that was that was a really good job.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was Unfortunately it took out his boy, but
Speaker 4: you know, somebody had to go because it's you know,
Speaker 4: it's been a minute, and uh, you know, I think
Speaker 4: it was it was it was him. I think it
Speaker 4: was sad when Hallara saw I think Halaren saw him
Speaker 4: at the end of the episode.
Speaker 2: You know, walking away. But but yeah, no, it was
Speaker 2: sad that he that he got taken out.
Speaker 1: So Lily finds a piece of the artifact, and the
Speaker 1: artifact is like a piece of the actual form what
Speaker 1: I understand at least, it's like the piece of the
Speaker 1: spaceship that the thing came in, So it's kind of
Speaker 1: like Superman or whatever. I don't know. Yeah, that's how
Speaker 1: I took it too. Yeah, So she finds a piece
Speaker 1: of the artifact that's under the water because Daniel's dumbass
Speaker 1: dropped it when he ran away, which which it's me
Speaker 1: to fuck off. You got one job, dog one, and
Speaker 1: you fucking failed. But she gets the artifact and then
Speaker 1: we see that Hank while being transferred to Shawshank escapes
Speaker 1: and runs straight to his his his his non Nubian
Speaker 1: fucking queen. And this into episode six. I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: with the parent so I'm gonna ask Ken this. You
Speaker 1: will deserve that slap.
Speaker 2: Oh you gotta.
Speaker 1: No, I want you might, I want you might. He
Speaker 1: should I must say he should have got back all
Speaker 1: the way. He gave a little bit. He gave a
Speaker 1: click club since a slap.
Speaker 2: He should have gave.
Speaker 5: He should have gave.
Speaker 1: He should have gave what the five figures say in
Speaker 1: the face. No, no, I can't, I can't. I can't
Speaker 1: let you have this one can that?
Speaker 3: Especially as a military kid, kid, you should know what
Speaker 3: he said was egregious.
Speaker 1: His own uncle. It was uncle Paul. He said that
Speaker 1: ship to his dad's face. I don't let my friends die.
Speaker 1: His lip open, bro that smoothie. The rest of the month.
Speaker 2: Page was awful.
Speaker 1: Leroy, god, oh my god.
Speaker 3: They can't like a nigga. The leroy won't slap his
Speaker 3: son like man. He slapped his ship up. That mother
Speaker 3: fucking He slapped himself fast. He couldn't either walk. That
Speaker 3: little motherfucker was crawling for like twelve feet. Got him
Speaker 3: as I'm crying. You should have watched your fucking mouth
Speaker 3: talking to me.
Speaker 1: Fucking wrong with you?
Speaker 4: Boy?
Speaker 1: Oh man, he deserved that slap. He deserved the hell
Speaker 1: out of that.
Speaker 3: But like hey, the funniest the funny thing though with
Speaker 3: Hank Punk ass in the backseat of the car with
Speaker 3: the white woman talk about some don't turn around, keep jobbing.
Speaker 1: It's me, baby, I'm like the god out of all
Speaker 1: the people you see first is her. That shit was crazy,
Speaker 1: but I guess it makes sense because he couldn't go
Speaker 1: home because the cops would definitely go there looking for him.
Speaker 2: But it was just the.
Speaker 1: Embrace for me. I was just like, dude, are you serious?
Speaker 1: Your daughter is in danger and you really out here
Speaker 1: on some fucking you know what I'm saying, I'm gone
Speaker 1: with the wind type shit. No, you little fucker.
Speaker 2: He needs it was it was it made we really
Speaker 2: see his decision making. It's bad.
Speaker 1: It's real bad.
Speaker 2: You you for multiple episodes refuse to say anything about
Speaker 2: this woman for fear of what would happen. And this
Speaker 2: is the first place you go, the first place he
Speaker 2: ran straight to his boo What are you serious? I
Speaker 2: need you girl all right, bro?
Speaker 4: Like, and what makes you think she wouldn't turn your
Speaker 4: ass in exactly? You know, because the whole town was
Speaker 4: turning against you already.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I did not like this part at all because.
Speaker 4: It just didn't make sense for me, Like, you're you
Speaker 4: put a lot of faith in this barren white woman bro.
Speaker 1: So Lily discovers that Ingrid who is the woman? Uh,
Speaker 1: which I kind of couldn't really figure out exactly what
Speaker 1: the relationship was between Lily and Ingrid. She was kind
Speaker 1: of like a counselor sort of or like a mentor.
Speaker 2: Maybe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she she worked at the asylum. Yeah, and I guess.
Speaker 3: Before she was the kind nurse to her while she
Speaker 3: was there, so they I guess that's how they create
Speaker 3: a friendship.
Speaker 1: That's weird, man, that's weird. But uh, but yeah, she
Speaker 1: goes over to her house and she discovers that Ingrid's
Speaker 1: dad was the original Penny Wise, you know, the person
Speaker 1: who Penny Wise I guess took its form from. But
Speaker 1: what did y'all think of the flashback scene of her
Speaker 1: dad at the asylum. I guess it wasn't her dad,
Speaker 1: but Penny Wise at the asylum killing that kid. At first,
Speaker 1: it was just like, all right, how old is Ingrid?
Speaker 1: Because like she should be looking a lot.
Speaker 3: Older, and she was like she like she was in
Speaker 3: her thirties then, and she she only aged like ten
Speaker 3: years Noo.
Speaker 1: Ingrid was the child, oh she was. She was the
Speaker 1: nurse lady that had the good little girl's hand because
Speaker 1: the child died.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're right, I'm a fool. Wait, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: Wait because it will be nineteen thirty. I was supposed
Speaker 1: to be thirty years later.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So it was like, so that made me go back
Speaker 3: to Hank Mike, like, you messing around with an old granny,
Speaker 3: white woman.
Speaker 1: You sacrificed. I fuck with what she's supposed to be
Speaker 1: eighty song bruh.
Speaker 3: She's she She looked like in the timeframe of like
Speaker 3: present day Derry where we're in the show, she like
Speaker 3: she only about fifty, but like if you look back
Speaker 3: in the flashbacks, she like she's like at best, no young.
Speaker 1: She's no younger than thirty.
Speaker 2: You're right.
Speaker 3: So I didn't understand the time, like how much time
Speaker 3: has passed or how much how old she's supposed to be.
Speaker 3: Either way, I thought it was interesting how they connected
Speaker 3: that because then even then, like to even go back furthers,
Speaker 3: she must have been if she was at the early
Speaker 3: stages of Pennywise, which was like with nineteen oh eight,
Speaker 3: I was like, how.
Speaker 1: Old is this little kid? Cause she like she was
Speaker 1: like ten years old. Then it was so the flashback
Speaker 1: I think they said was like nineteen thirty five, right
Speaker 1: from the the when she had the little girl's hand
Speaker 1: and she took the bounce there. Yeah, so I think
Speaker 1: this was nineteen thirty five. So I'm trying to look
Speaker 1: up what year does Welcome to Dairy take place?
Speaker 3: So you know what I'm talking about. The other flashback
Speaker 3: when she was at the carnival with her daddy right
Speaker 3: where we get to see, Yeah, she was like what
Speaker 3: nine ten around that age too, So it's just like the.
Speaker 1: Way they're doing the time jumps with her age is crazy.
Speaker 1: So Darry's supposed to be nineteen sixty two, so that
Speaker 1: means it was a thirty year almost a thirty year
Speaker 1: gap between that black and white scene and then the
Speaker 1: other party say, yeah, I'm with you, Nick, that doesn't
Speaker 1: really make a lot of sense. Well, okay, let's guess
Speaker 1: and say maybe she was twenty in the flashback scene.
Speaker 1: That'll make her twenty five, even so I'd make her
Speaker 1: fifty five. I guess I can buy that.
Speaker 2: I can buy that. I can buy it.
Speaker 3: And that's a side point. But I did like the
Speaker 3: full circle with her story. I did find it interesting
Speaker 3: that one it was the first thing she said to
Speaker 3: her real daddy was like, the kids are attracted to you.
Speaker 3: The daddy was like, damn, nigga, that's a dark thing
Speaker 3: to say for a kid, but I guess. But then,
Speaker 3: so then when he took the form as you see,
Speaker 3: it was, it was for his own purpose, its own purposes.
Speaker 3: And then for her to have that much of an
Speaker 3: attachment to her dad that she would let she would
Speaker 3: basically serve up kids and people to this thing just
Speaker 3: to see her daddy again was crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, really really really dark what they did with
Speaker 4: with her and connecting it as well. But no, it
Speaker 4: was dope, like because I think the last episode was
Speaker 4: our first time seeing it, so now like we're we're
Speaker 4: with them for the rest of the episode, so I think,
Speaker 4: you know, they continue to make him creepy and scary
Speaker 4: as ship. So yeah, and then just having a red
Speaker 4: balloon and the black white scene.
Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah, So no, this this this is good.
Speaker 4: But yeah, the whole Inger connection and everything you got
Speaker 4: I just talked about it was a bit confusing.
Speaker 3: I will say this though, Mike, I see why Hank
Speaker 3: probably messed around with anger. But you know, I'm crazy ones.
Speaker 2: What Yeah, you know, you know, playing.
Speaker 1: Absolutely he got it from her. He's like your float
Speaker 1: to bitch.
Speaker 2: You know that white makeup. I'm with it, I'm with it.
Speaker 1: You know. Inger was definitely a free all right, So
Speaker 1: this is another part that's funk off. Uh So, Charlotte,
Speaker 1: we're stupid ass. She takes Hank to the Black Spot.
Speaker 1: The black Spot is the local fun negro joint, right,
Speaker 1: because they kept getting kicked out of the White bar,
Speaker 1: newly established, uly established. They just got this ship, just
Speaker 1: hit it on Charlotte and the whole ass.
Speaker 2: Hank.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sure we all knew how this was going
Speaker 1: to turn out, right, Yeah, yeah, but I was also hoping.
Speaker 1: I was hoping that wasn't gonna be the case.
Speaker 3: But and I felt I felt bad for the psychic
Speaker 3: black dude because he was like already going through some
Speaker 3: fucked up shit because obviously the boxes open on his
Speaker 3: mind and he's hearing, and he just he just wanted
Speaker 3: to drink his drink and take a nap, and he
Speaker 3: got this dirty motherfuckers. You know, Hank ain't showered in
Speaker 3: about three two weeks at least, so he got this
Speaker 3: dirty ass nigga in his uh, in his the back
Speaker 3: room and he know he a fusative and he's like, bro,
Speaker 3: you bringing trouble to this mother?
Speaker 1: Who he was like, who dropped this motherfucker off? Charlotte.
Speaker 1: He was like, man, I can't even deal with this.
Speaker 1: He just left.
Speaker 2: Yeah this, Yeah, Charlotte, Bro, she's just she's she.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she sucked everything up and yeah, yeah, we knew
Speaker 4: exactly how it was going to go. And I don't
Speaker 4: know what made her think this, because hey, Helera had
Speaker 4: the right idea, get this motherfucker away from here.
Speaker 2: Yes, what are y'all doing?
Speaker 4: Like everybody's trying to get him, they're trying to kill him,
Speaker 4: and you want to bring him to the black Spot?
Speaker 2: My question is who named it the black spot?
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, the black Spot. Of course they're gonna go
Speaker 1: there first, and they're looking for a fucking sellon, of course,
Speaker 1: But what are you doing?
Speaker 2: Guys and Charlotte?
Speaker 1: Yet, don't don't leave him at the crazy white woman's house,
Speaker 1: which they probably wouldn't look for him there. I mean,
Speaker 1: granted he couldn't stay there because she has a husband,
Speaker 1: but you take him to the black Spot. I was like,
Speaker 1: this mother, Oh my god, this made me so fucking mad.
Speaker 1: But nah, this scene was incredibly well done. Incredibly well done.
Speaker 1: The way that the white dudes show up and they
Speaker 1: start shooting the place up. You know, it was sad
Speaker 1: to watch. But the way they did my boy Rich.
Speaker 2: That broke me.
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, yo, they did my boy Rich
Speaker 1: like that. He died saving this girl with one eye.
Speaker 1: She barely knew him talking about I love you. You
Speaker 1: met me three days ago. You're not seeing things straight.
Speaker 1: I don't believe you, Okay, but it was still so sad.
Speaker 3: My thing was Marge was a piece of shit for
Speaker 3: majority of this series and she gets saved.
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all could have both fit in that box, especially Rich. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like a little person who did people are squeeze it.
Speaker 1: They could have folded him up that.
Speaker 4: Box.
Speaker 2: March.
Speaker 1: We can't both fit.
Speaker 3: Watch take your glasses off, thick as they take it up, right,
Speaker 3: I'm not you only got one eye.
Speaker 2: Anyway, we're not figuring out like we can't off leg
Speaker 2: and everything.
Speaker 1: But this this is my gripe, kid.
Speaker 3: We saw too much black death and this series, to me,
Speaker 3: bro it was just and this and I'm going off
Speaker 3: of like we like Watchmen, the Watchmen series that we
Speaker 3: liked as well, it's about the Tulsa rides. It was like,
Speaker 3: come on, like and then none of those white except
Speaker 3: for one white person, but most of those white people,
Speaker 3: and I did like how they had. You know, white people,
Speaker 3: they brave as hell with masks on, but they cowards
Speaker 3: when they take those masks off. Most of them are
Speaker 3: not even gonna get any kind of justice, any kind
Speaker 3: of red, because no one's gonna they were even there.
Speaker 1: But he killed all those innocent black people. Brop and
Speaker 1: Hank lived, fucking lived. That's the part that pissed me off.
Speaker 4: Hank made it out, and Charlotte was still doing the
Speaker 4: same old dumb shit like and nobody ever looked at
Speaker 4: her and was like, this is all your fucking fault.
Speaker 2: Did anybody say that at all?
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, what man?
Speaker 4: Not even her husband like, hey, you know, I don't
Speaker 4: endorse violence at all, but you just s mack Will.
Speaker 2: And she almost got Will killed with this dumb shit.
Speaker 1: Yes, what she did was worse than Will.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, because everybody died and they were having such
Speaker 4: a good time. Norma Peers was in there, you know,
Speaker 4: remind me of sinners, Norma. Norma Peers get out of here.
Speaker 4: Crazy thing is it's running around killing and eating kids.
Speaker 4: These mother I go right here, what's the most frightened
Speaker 4: shit in the goddamn show. No repercussions, They covered it up.
Speaker 4: And the military you lost what seventeen airmen and you're
Speaker 4: just gonna go along with a fire, an electrical fire.
Speaker 4: But what could they do not ship to anybody in
Speaker 4: this town. And it was just frightening to see them
Speaker 4: get away with that murder and the fact that it's
Speaker 4: not that far away from reality of what used to
Speaker 4: happen back in the day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's that's the that's the aspect that I
Speaker 1: did think was was pretty cool because I could one
Speaker 1: see this happening. I could one hun percent see this
Speaker 1: actually happening. And especially after watching my boy Rich get
Speaker 1: down the drums and then they killed his ass. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He had a good ass night, bro.
Speaker 1: He was gonna get some blissy and for being at
Speaker 1: some point he was gonna get some because Marge was
Speaker 1: all into my boy Rich exactly.
Speaker 2: Oh you can play the drum.
Speaker 1: She did, she did a little she did a little
Speaker 1: circle dance. I was like, Oh, Rich, that's gonna be
Speaker 1: his girl. But I was not expecting them because it
Speaker 1: had been a few episodes since they killed a kid.
Speaker 1: I thought Rich was gonna make it out. But man, oh,
Speaker 1: that part was. It was really good, but it was
Speaker 1: really hard to watch. It's a hard rewatch to you.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: But I do have two questions.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but you cannot survive in a fridge and
Speaker 4: a fire man and to high in the hell was
Speaker 4: rich body up charge?
Speaker 1: He didn't get burnt up, He just died from smoking inhalation.
Speaker 2: But the whole place was still burning.
Speaker 3: I thought the roof was gonna come down on him,
Speaker 3: That's what I thought. It was gonna cut off his
Speaker 3: monologue and he was just gonna get crushed.
Speaker 4: But you know, it's fine. But I'm like, nah My
Speaker 4: should have been gone to she should have. It would
Speaker 4: have turned that thing.
Speaker 2: Into like a hot pots or something. But you know
Speaker 2: it's it's it's cool now. That's that.
Speaker 1: That's that bullshit movie stuff.
Speaker 2: Remember.
Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all remember this Indiana Jones in.
Speaker 3: The Crystal Store when he survived in atomic blastphot.
Speaker 1: In a landtub or something. It was like a refrigerator.
Speaker 2: Kids don't at home. Ship would not work.
Speaker 1: It's a classic movie ship they always do, like if
Speaker 1: they throw a grenade, they jump in the bathtub. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is but I didn't even think about that hard
Speaker 1: til you just said it can. When I was watching it,
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, man, shes gonna live in
Speaker 1: a little in the little mini fridge and my boy
Speaker 1: Rich gonna die. This is sad, That's all I thought.
Speaker 1: I didn't think about the logistics. But but yeah, so
Speaker 1: you say, yeah, we're in episode seven now and the
Speaker 1: military finds a piece of the pillar and decides to
Speaker 1: destroy it. But after that we're taken back to the
Speaker 1: story with handling hallerin Will and Ronnie. They're the only
Speaker 1: ones that made it out that fucking fire. Marge obviously
Speaker 1: is saved by Rich, but outside Ingrid shows up dressed
Speaker 1: in her clown outfit, and after Pennywise kills her husband,
Speaker 1: she realizes that that's not her father. Finally, so as
Speaker 1: she starts to you know, back up or whatever, Pennywise
Speaker 1: does the dead Lights. I don't know if y'all remember
Speaker 1: this from the movies, but Dead Lights, which kind of
Speaker 1: puts her into a trance. But then Pennywise reveals that
Speaker 1: he's got the itis and he's gonna go take it out.
Speaker 1: He said, Like was like, listen, I just take that.
Speaker 2: Don't worry.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get up again.
Speaker 2: I I'm about to go to sleep.
Speaker 1: I was like, why do you sound like an old
Speaker 1: fucking seventy five year old black man from the South
Speaker 1: that's woke her up? Mike, shit, Like my daddy said
Speaker 1: like that. But yeah, he's awakened and he kidnaps will
Speaker 1: did y'all expect that? No, because I didn't know.
Speaker 3: I was interested in how the series is going to
Speaker 3: end based off of when he said he was going
Speaker 3: to take a nap, and we know that he takes
Speaker 3: like a twenty five twenty seven year hibernation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like I knew that.
Speaker 3: I didn't think that that was going to impact his gnap.
Speaker 3: I don't realize he only did that because of the cage,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, I thought that was
Speaker 3: just naturally how he eats like he eats a lot,
Speaker 3: goes to sleep, and it eats out again. But once
Speaker 3: that motherfucker was busted, the nigga will cook quick. He
Speaker 3: was like, he was right back there. He got nestles
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 1: In that blood. Then he will go He's like, hold
Speaker 1: on this shit, I see I hear the door open.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know the rules for this part either. I
Speaker 1: thought also that he just eats and then sleeps for
Speaker 1: twenty seven years. I didn't know that it has anything
Speaker 1: to do with the cage. I'm still a little bit confused.
Speaker 2: By this part.
Speaker 1: But I got why he woke up because he was
Speaker 1: like he felt threatened, you know. So I got why
Speaker 1: he woke up, and I'm still a bit fuzzy on
Speaker 1: the rules there. But yeah. So episode eight, last episode
Speaker 1: starts with Pennywise using a big cloak of fog to
Speaker 1: invade dairy, where he kills the principal and then takes
Speaker 1: the kids and they go after them intent on saving Will,
Speaker 1: but Pennywise manages to separate Marge Ken. Do you do
Speaker 1: you remember what his reasoning was for why he separated Marge.
Speaker 4: He was telling her something about it was the last
Speaker 4: name and that she was going to have a kid
Speaker 4: in the future. Yeah, and it was it was rich
Speaker 4: And I was like, yes, rich, it's a rich dad.
Speaker 4: So yeah, now this part I did remember this. This
Speaker 4: was the Little Stranger Things Boy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So in the other movie. So what what it
Speaker 1: was saying is that in the future, she's gonna have
Speaker 1: a kid that she's gonna name rich which we could
Speaker 1: now see she named after Rich life. That's crazy, and
Speaker 1: he's trying to to stop her from having the kid.
Speaker 1: So was this was this cool to you, Nick? Or
Speaker 1: was this too much time traveling?
Speaker 3: I didn't, well, it was it was interesting. I thought
Speaker 3: they were just trying to connect it to the movie.
Speaker 3: But I did find it interesting when he said, like, past, present, future,
Speaker 3: it's all the same to me, So like he's like,
Speaker 3: I know, but I didn't realize what he said was
Speaker 3: kind of confusing. Also after that, he was like, my
Speaker 3: death could be also my birth, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I was just like, all right, nigga, what the
Speaker 1: fun that's supposed to me? But what are you talking about?
Speaker 3: I thought he was gonna say due to knowledge mathematics.
Speaker 3: I thought he's gonna spit in Jay electronical bar left right,
Speaker 3: But nah, but I did.
Speaker 1: I was just but my thing my mind went to,
Speaker 1: like did I even know this about?
Speaker 3: Does Marge's name should have meant more to me in
Speaker 3: the TV show because that is riches what they revealed
Speaker 3: to me, you know what I'm saying, So like that
Speaker 3: was kind of thing like, oh, they must have I
Speaker 3: must be that removed from the movie to not even
Speaker 3: understand that that was her name. But I didn't mind it.
Speaker 3: I didn't mind it. I thought was pretty cool. But
Speaker 3: I was also trying to see, like, how does this
Speaker 3: play out?
Speaker 2: What about you? Ken? Yeah, it was fine.
Speaker 4: I think what it did for me was I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: now I gotta go watch the rest and see what
Speaker 4: was what? What he what he's saying there? What does
Speaker 4: that have to do with the rest of the series, well,
Speaker 4: with the movies and stuff like that. So it definitely
Speaker 4: created that curiosity by connecting it like that.
Speaker 1: Also, the the Paul Bunyan thing, I remember that from
Speaker 1: the movie that it attacked. It attacked Rich. Remember it
Speaker 1: took the form of the statue.
Speaker 3: Remember they put the statue like I remember in the
Speaker 3: chapter two It was chapter two where it attacked. It
Speaker 3: came to life in an attack Rich. I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: I see how they connected that too.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say right now, I'm a little disappointed in
Speaker 1: both of you because y'all did not bring up to
Speaker 1: me the funniest ship of this whole fucking series. And
Speaker 1: that's when penny Wise crup hold up that paper and
Speaker 1: pop March in the face. When I tell you I
Speaker 1: wound that ship back like four times, the sound of
Speaker 1: it hitting her face, I don't think she expected that.
Speaker 1: I don't think the actor she said.
Speaker 5: Oh Mike, you wrong, you foul for that, because you
Speaker 5: know she only got one eye. She ain't know I
Speaker 5: was getting thrown out of way.
Speaker 3: She just help.
Speaker 2: The thought.
Speaker 1: I heard the sound of.
Speaker 2: Just hit me. Is there two penny ones?
Speaker 1: She had the plural bro I was. I don't know
Speaker 1: why that ship was so fucking funny to be, but
Speaker 1: oh my god, I was dying. So the adults get
Speaker 1: the plan to rescue the artifact. I'm sorry to return
Speaker 1: the artifact to its original place because Rose gives some
Speaker 1: another weird ass Eric abadu ass shit about the Dagger
Speaker 1: wants to be back home, so it tries to manipulate
Speaker 1: you to bring it home.
Speaker 2: I was like, whatever, dude.
Speaker 1: But they're trying to restore the cage that penny Wise
Speaker 1: is trapped in. But the military fucking shoots Handling and
Speaker 1: kills Daniel, and while trying to reason what penny Wise
Speaker 1: penny Wise eats Colonel Shaw. So I'm gonna ask you
Speaker 1: two questions. One was this a satisfying death of Pennywise
Speaker 1: killing Shaw? And two? Can you tell me the stupidest
Speaker 1: shit that happened during this? One of y'all can go
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 4: Yes, it was satisfying, but the person I really wanted
Speaker 4: to die was the sheriff for what he did. But
Speaker 4: but nah, you know, it was satisfying seeing shall get
Speaker 4: his because white people military government always need thinking control ship.
Speaker 2: So he just knew. It was like, hey, man, you're free.
Speaker 2: You can go do whatever you want to do and
Speaker 2: try to walk off. He was like, nah, I smelled
Speaker 2: that before. What you smell like?
Speaker 4: He said, I'll never forget a cent? And he ate
Speaker 4: the funk out of that motherfucker. And then the other
Speaker 4: racist guy. You know, it was like, hey, y'all go
Speaker 4: see what that is. I ain't going bro, but yeah,
Speaker 4: but but yeah, so no, all of all of that was.
Speaker 2: Was really really dope. But I can't think of the
Speaker 2: stupidest ship. You're speaking like, Nick, I'm trying to.
Speaker 1: I was trying to. I was letting I think, are
Speaker 1: y'all serious? Bro?
Speaker 4: Okay, ol boy got shot in the leg and then
Speaker 4: shoot the thing.
Speaker 1: They all jumped out the fucking car. Yeah, they heard
Speaker 1: bullets flying. They all jumped, all.
Speaker 2: Of them was out the car and it was a
Speaker 2: hit in that damn vand there was a lot of kids.
Speaker 4: And when the when the motherfuckers fell out of the
Speaker 4: sky and hit the ground like that ship gotta hurt.
Speaker 1: The couple died off of that.
Speaker 3: And kend it was a mystery machine. You could fit
Speaker 3: all types of ship in that van. But but no,
Speaker 3: I was Mike, I'm with you, Like when they busted
Speaker 3: out of it, he was like Dad, I'm like, nire good.
Speaker 3: What are you gonna do on in a foggy ice
Speaker 3: area first? So I don't even know if the ground
Speaker 3: they may be stirt. They going over river thinking it's
Speaker 3: hard ground, Like, man, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: That's ice over because yes, and you.
Speaker 1: See, I'm pretty sure I need to go back and rewatch.
Speaker 1: But I'm pretty sure that whole ass Hank left. Ronnie
Speaker 1: he jumped out the van, was like, Ronnie, no, But
Speaker 1: then when they started shooting, he run. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: it was it was Rose that was still at the
Speaker 1: van and somebody else. But I'm pretty sure it wasn't Ronnie.
Speaker 1: Ronnie was with Will, So I was like, Hank is
Speaker 1: a fucking whole asshole.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it was.
Speaker 1: It wasn't satisfying death for sy'aw. And yeah that was
Speaker 1: stupard as hell for them to get out the van
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah it was.
Speaker 4: And you know, I think the thing that frustrated frustrated
Speaker 4: me was when when Leero ran out of bullets and
Speaker 4: I'm sure they hurt the clicking and everybody else got
Speaker 4: guns and nobody else shooting. I'm like, Hank, damn shoot,
Speaker 4: didn't shoot? Uh, Taylor Page, damn shoo didn't shoot? And
Speaker 4: she she no, and she yelling will Will Will, And
Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, what are y'all doing?
Speaker 2: Let loose? The only person that really tried to do
Speaker 2: something was uh the psychic indigenous.
Speaker 1: That was the only one, yea.
Speaker 3: And she she gave the psychic dude or the shot
Speaker 3: of like some moonshine or something something like that.
Speaker 1: So uh see see weed hennessy drink whatever. He was like,
Speaker 1: she was like, listen, this ship.
Speaker 2: Fire like gonna make all of them go away.
Speaker 1: Let me try it.
Speaker 2: Man. He was doing a good job too, man, he
Speaker 2: was on his professor ship bro.
Speaker 3: But she fucked up because how you gonna give him
Speaker 3: the drink first and then tell him all right, make
Speaker 3: sure you don't.
Speaker 1: Do she just like think tell her before he SIPs?
Speaker 1: Where are you saying any directions? So what did y'all
Speaker 1: think of them trying to get the artifact in and
Speaker 1: then the ghost of my boy Rich showed up to
Speaker 1: help and help them push it in. What did y'all
Speaker 1: think about this scene?
Speaker 3: I love that scene, especially when Rich was throwing the
Speaker 3: middle figure up de pendy wise.
Speaker 1: I also thought before that it was funny when Willis
Speaker 1: got the dagger and then all of a sudden he
Speaker 1: was like, no, I think we gotta take this hole.
Speaker 1: He was gonna try to go part it somewhere. He
Speaker 1: was gonna make a chain out of it. He was
Speaker 1: gonna make a rope out of that moment. It was
Speaker 1: gonna be the first Jesus Peace I big Tarror squad.
Speaker 1: But it was a sweet That was a sweet ended,
Speaker 1: that was really sweet.
Speaker 3: I didn't even think that was gonna make it until
Speaker 3: you know, then I realized, Yeah, he got to get
Speaker 3: locked up somehow.
Speaker 2: Yeah he did.
Speaker 4: But I think they did a good job of like
Speaker 4: dragging it out and building that intensity that you know,
Speaker 4: that moment, that tension, because I'm like, damn, they were
Speaker 4: going for a second season, that's what we're doing.
Speaker 2: But yeah, there was no way he could escape.
Speaker 4: Because we know that he just based on the movies
Speaker 4: that he's locked up. But they did a fabulous job
Speaker 4: just you know, building, building that out. But this, by
Speaker 4: far was the funniest thing to me, Mike when when
Speaker 4: he flipped it off running that Yeah, me.
Speaker 2: And Miles was in here cracking up.
Speaker 4: I don't know what it was that made it so funny,
Speaker 4: but it's such a kid thing to do that. You're
Speaker 4: just first of all, you're dad. You just a blievians
Speaker 4: to everything. But it's like, man, fuck you.
Speaker 1: Me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it man, when he was running and he
Speaker 2: came through the.
Speaker 1: He had he had two of them this episode. Kid,
Speaker 1: because he did his trademark dance at the school. He
Speaker 1: was bugging, but he was gliding through that. He just
Speaker 1: he was fun. He did almost hit the d I
Speaker 1: said this prime Oh man, Yeah, I like y'all. I
Speaker 1: liked I like this scene too. It definitely felt like
Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all watched it, but that one
Speaker 1: Ghostbusters where they had Egon's ghosts come back and help
Speaker 1: them at the end. Uh, I forget it was the
Speaker 1: one that had the Stranger Things get in it. I
Speaker 1: can't remember it was named, but that's what this reminded
Speaker 1: me of. So I thought they did a really good
Speaker 1: job with the with the rich thing, I thought it
Speaker 1: was cool. But but yes, now we're at the end.
Speaker 1: After Richard's funeral, Marge discusses with Lily that penny Wise
Speaker 1: might be doing time travel to prevent its own death.
Speaker 1: And then we see that Hank and Ronnie are leaving
Speaker 1: Derry and Hollerin is going to work at a hotel
Speaker 1: while Charlotte and Handling stay in Deer So was this
Speaker 1: was this a good ending for y'all?
Speaker 2: Yeah? You know, I thought it worked.
Speaker 4: I am curious about what Charlotte and Hanlan would do
Speaker 4: there because and and why Will was so why he
Speaker 4: wanted to stay just to remember because she left.
Speaker 1: Bro It's like, you know, she gone, both of them leave,
Speaker 1: then they both forget. But he felt like if he stayed,
Speaker 1: he'd be able to keep her remembering by sending her letters.
Speaker 1: It was sweet. It's some stupid kid ship.
Speaker 2: It was sweet, but she gone, bro, like, what's gonna
Speaker 2: happen when you get old? And then that'st thing.
Speaker 4: You know, you're gonna end up like Hank ads Well
Speaker 4: because I ain't see a lot of black people in
Speaker 4: that city.
Speaker 2: The only ones that they're a military, So you gonna
Speaker 2: end up well. I don't know Taylor, his.
Speaker 4: Mom won't let him get with a white woman because
Speaker 4: she was happy when she found out that.
Speaker 2: But but I think it worked. I'm just kind of curious.
Speaker 4: About what they're going to do while there there and
Speaker 4: why she didn't want to leave because it's sleep for
Speaker 4: twenty seven years, Like what's your job?
Speaker 3: Like you know?
Speaker 2: And then what's the other part? Yeah, I think that
Speaker 2: was it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like the ending.
Speaker 3: I really liked the ending between Lily and Marge where
Speaker 3: they had that conversation. She was just like, she was like,
Speaker 3: are they gonna can it go back in time and
Speaker 3: kill you know, our parents? And then not realizing like
Speaker 3: and I don't know, Mike, you can correct me. It
Speaker 3: wasn't about that. It was more about how he almost
Speaker 3: took you out to kill your son, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Like it was I was just more focused
Speaker 3: on that part but I know there's supposed to be
Speaker 3: a season two that goes back even further. Yeah, yeah
Speaker 3: than this one, so maybe we'll find out some shit
Speaker 3: about that too. But that was a scene that really
Speaker 3: took uh, that really stuck with me, and I like that.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 3: I wanted to see more of the indigenous people a
Speaker 3: little bit more, hopefully in the future as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that that conversation was actually pretty cool
Speaker 1: to the one between Marge and Lily. Uh, the fact
Speaker 1: that Marge even figured out that that's what he was doing,
Speaker 1: I thought that was cool. Again, I don't usually like
Speaker 1: time travel. It fucking annoys me, but I think the
Speaker 1: way they're doing it with this where it's uh, it's
Speaker 1: not I mean, it's not really time travel because he's
Speaker 1: saying that the past and the future and the president
Speaker 1: it's all one thing, so all of these things are
Speaker 1: happening simultaneously. So I actually really enjoyed that, and I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a cheap way out the way Marvel
Speaker 1: does with all this fucking multiverse travel shit. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I liked it. I definitely liked the way it ended
Speaker 1: the hotel thing. So I guess y'all didn't didn't really
Speaker 1: put too much thought into that.
Speaker 3: I saw that he was emphasizing the hotel a lot,
Speaker 3: because I figured obviously connected to the Shawshank Redemption, which
Speaker 3: I don't realize was a part of this universe because
Speaker 3: they mentioned it a lot. But when he kept on
Speaker 3: saying the hotel, the hotels, like what hotel, was like, Oh, okay,
Speaker 3: you're talking about that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I like, oh, go ahead, Ken.
Speaker 2: What it makes me wonder is like, are they going
Speaker 2: to do some stories about that?
Speaker 1: That's exactly where my brain went to. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: are they going to do a show about the Overlook Hotel?
Speaker 1: I would be fucking hyped, especially if they get the
Speaker 1: same actor. And then they kind of explained because he's
Speaker 1: old by the time we watched the Shining, he's like
Speaker 1: old old, so that means he's been at that hotel
Speaker 1: that whole time. So I would love if they did
Speaker 1: a show kind of going through like what was he
Speaker 1: doing there for this long?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I thought that was a especially the line when he
Speaker 4: said how much trouble can I get into it at
Speaker 4: a hotel?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Hotealthy?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I thought that was that was smart. But yeah, so
Speaker 1: the move. The show basically ends, but then it has
Speaker 1: like some side like final after credit kind of thing.
Speaker 1: But I don't really remember who these people were. I
Speaker 1: know it's Ingrid and they're showing her like twenty something
Speaker 1: years later. Oh yeah, with the movie, but I don't
Speaker 1: remember the details. Yeah, I thought that was the little
Speaker 1: girl from the chapter one.
Speaker 2: I think it is.
Speaker 1: It is a little girl that's part of the little Club.
Speaker 1: I just don't remember the person hanging themselves And I
Speaker 1: don't remember did she say something about her mom, like
Speaker 1: passing or hanging herself and then and then I knew
Speaker 1: she didn't have a good relationship with her dad because
Speaker 1: her dad was just like get the fuck off me
Speaker 1: and shit like that. See, I don't remember. I'm definitely
Speaker 1: after this, I'm definitely gonna go back and rewatch because
Speaker 1: I didn't like them when they came. I thought they
Speaker 1: were terrible. But now I'm gonna see if I was wrong.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back and rewatch them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that first one was really good. After one, I
Speaker 3: think chapter two maybe it is what People had a
Speaker 3: lot of mixed reviews on them.
Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, so that's it. So there's gonna be
Speaker 1: apparently there's gonna be two more seasons. Are y'all? Are
Speaker 1: y'all here for two more seasons of this?
Speaker 2: I am well, I gotta go.
Speaker 3: I'm going to season season so I'm here for season two.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure how things will go based off the
Speaker 3: Netflix Warner Brothers thing. I don't know, because I think
Speaker 3: that may be in purgatory or well. They said that
Speaker 3: they were going to keep everything that was already in
Speaker 3: production moving forward, but they always say that shit. But
Speaker 3: this was a hit cans, like I said, like Mike
Speaker 3: you asked earlier. I think this is especially in Black households.
Speaker 3: I saw a lot of black people talking about Yea,
Speaker 3: I saw a lot of black people talk about it.
Speaker 3: So I was pleasantly surprised by that because it's technically dude,
Speaker 3: does this count as a black series?
Speaker 1: Neck? Until you said it, until you brought it up,
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about it. But black folks loved
Speaker 1: the Old show the Old Like my mom loved that ship,
Speaker 1: So maybe that's part of it. But yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: this would be kind of considered a black show. Black
Speaker 1: folks love some Taylor Page.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she looked good.
Speaker 1: She looked good, looked good. She just didn't act good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I am.
Speaker 4: I think, you know, as long as they retain the
Speaker 4: people that's that's working on it, I have confidence that
Speaker 4: they'll they'll do well. And I love the fact that
Speaker 4: they were like, we're just doing three seasons, and I
Speaker 4: hope they just do three seasons and let that be.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 4: But I didn't want to say it. I was searching
Speaker 4: for another one. But nah, man, they did a really
Speaker 4: good job. So I'm curious to now go finish listen
Speaker 4: to the podcast. I want to see, you know, get
Speaker 4: some insight into what I may have missed or other
Speaker 4: things that you know that they were talking about. But
Speaker 4: I would love to see more about the indigenous people
Speaker 4: on which you nick.
Speaker 2: You know, I think they got.
Speaker 3: Them all dealing this one because I feel like they
Speaker 3: they've been playing a lot of like horror or this
Speaker 3: kind of I've been playing around with like stuff with
Speaker 3: in digital, like even with Sinners, Like people said we
Speaker 3: could do a whole prequel of Centers with just the
Speaker 3: was it the Choptown tribe? So it's like I want
Speaker 3: to see more of that world because I feel like
Speaker 3: that's just untapped stories.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but yeah, I think, you know, the way
Speaker 4: they designed the creatures, the ideas that they had, all
Speaker 4: of it was good.
Speaker 2: Him drooling at the mouth, everything was really good. Bill
Speaker 2: Scarr's card. He kind of did his thing, That's all.
Speaker 1: I went to mention too, Mike, he body, I don't
Speaker 1: even think he could play any other role.
Speaker 2: Honestly.
Speaker 3: I know he've been trying to do all this ship Mike,
Speaker 3: but it ain't he tried to do. He tried to
Speaker 3: do the remake of The Crow.
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, just you should just stick down.
Speaker 1: Oh Phil clown that fucking movie. I don't know why
Speaker 1: they try to do that. If you think about you
Speaker 1: not loving me anymore, love me hot, fuck that movie.
Speaker 1: Get these more anyway, That's another story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I was slowly bringing up to say, like
Speaker 3: he bodies this character like he did even when he
Speaker 3: just played the regular dad like he was.
Speaker 2: Just like he was good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now I'm I'm with y'all. I'm with y'all. I'm definitely
Speaker 1: here for another season. I thought they did a great job.
Speaker 1: It's definitely one of the better things that I've seen
Speaker 1: this year. So so yeah, I guess we will wrap
Speaker 1: it up there. Let us know. Obviously, what y'all thought
Speaker 1: in the comments on unfortunately Spotify, or you can just
Speaker 1: go straight to Reddit leave some comments there, but let
Speaker 1: us know what y'all thought. Share it with a friend
Speaker 1: or two, and we will see y'all next time we're out.
Speaker 2: Peace pieces