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Speaker 1: Live from val Hartliner and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 1: More and more information to get about this shooting and

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Speaker 1: this church fire in Michigan, this shooting in North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: I got questions, and I know you do too, and

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Speaker 1: we want answers and how soon will they come? In Iowa,

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Speaker 1: we have answers and the answer is, my gosh. We

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Speaker 1: don't actually check on people, do we. As long as

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Speaker 1: they check the boxes, they get hired. Tony Katz, Tony

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Speaker 1: Katz Today, good to be with you find everything at

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Speaker 1: Tony kats dot com. This is the story of the

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Speaker 1: Iowa superintendent. His name is doctor Ian Roberts. And Ian Roberts,

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Speaker 1: the superintendent of the Des Moines Public Schools, was taken

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Speaker 1: into ice custody.

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Speaker 2: Why in the world would he.

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Speaker 1: Be taken into ice custody. He was taken to ice

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Speaker 1: custody because he entered the country illegally from Guyana years ago.

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Speaker 2: I forget how many years ago. Now.

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Speaker 1: He was given a work authorization. That's how the story

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Speaker 1: was originally reported. Given a work authorization, and he let

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Speaker 1: that lapse. He's got a doctorate, he's been working in education.

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Speaker 1: He's the superintendent of schools in Des Moines, Iowa. But

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Speaker 1: there was an order for him to be deported. That

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Speaker 1: order came in twenty twenty four from the Biden administration,

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Speaker 1: and he didn't go, and then as they were trying.

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Speaker 2: To find him, he ran off.

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Speaker 1: He was then apprehended with three thousand dollars in cash

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Speaker 1: and a knife on him, and he had I think

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Speaker 1: he had a firearm, but there was a firearms charge

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Speaker 1: that he was dealing with from a few years back

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Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. He had pled guilty to a firearms charge

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Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania, according to the New York Times. And now

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Speaker 1: the board in Des Moines has placed them on paid leave. Now,

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Speaker 1: before we go any further, you heard me right, paid leave,

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Speaker 1: paid three hundred thousand dollars a year, paid leave. The

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Speaker 1: question before us is how does this happen? And I'm

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Speaker 1: going to answer for you now how this happens. In

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Speaker 1: order to answer the question, though, in order to understand it.

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Speaker 2: Some things have to be said.

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Speaker 1: These things aren't necessarily nice things because they are very

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Speaker 1: direct about liberal women. Liberal women are flat out at

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Speaker 1: this stage of the game on the side of wrong

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Speaker 1: in every single instance.

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Speaker 2: Now, one could say, well, they're the enemy. But in

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Speaker 2: the spirit of.

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Speaker 1: Trying to tone down the rhetoric, how about the fact

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Speaker 1: that they're always wrong and liberal women and I often

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Speaker 1: talk about this as liberal white women very very specifically

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Speaker 1: can be guilted into anything and will buy into any nonsense.

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Speaker 2: And I'm willing to bet.

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Speaker 1: You in this guy's history, doctor Ian Robert, who is black,

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Speaker 1: that in his history people saw always black and always

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Speaker 1: he's from Guyana. Well we have to have him, Oh

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Speaker 1: we have to hire him, we have to promote him.

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Speaker 1: Oh we have to do this. How much do you

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Speaker 1: want to bet that was the case? And any level

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Speaker 1: of background check rarely got any thought, because my gosh,

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Speaker 1: that in and of itself is just racist. It's not racist.

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Speaker 1: Doing due diligence is not racist. My wife volunteers at

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Speaker 1: the high school. She needed a background check, she's a volunteer.

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Speaker 1: We didn't ever check the guy who you made the

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Speaker 1: superintendent of public instruction for the Des Moines schools. How

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Speaker 1: about the fact that it's an all female Democrat school

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Speaker 1: board in Des Moines, Well, of course it is, just

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Speaker 1: as a reminder, it's your responsibility to vote and you

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Speaker 1: have to ensure that you're voting for every office, including

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Speaker 1: that school board race, because otherwise your kids are screwed.

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Speaker 2: Thank you appreciate that as well.

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Speaker 1: Well placed right there, an all female Democrat school board.

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Speaker 1: Who knows what exactly his education is, who knows whether

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Speaker 1: or not he has a degree. By the way, the

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Speaker 1: agents found him with a loaded gun a hunting knife

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Speaker 1: in three thousand in cash. The gun charge from Pennsylvania

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Speaker 1: was something different. So he did have a loaded gun

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Speaker 1: on him. How do you get it's a gun? It

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Speaker 1: was he in the country legally? He wasn't in the

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Speaker 1: country legally. How did he get the gun? What kind

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Speaker 1: of fake employment history was there? And who did the

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Speaker 3: Yesterday was a jarring day for many people, not only

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Speaker 3: at Des Moines Public Schools, but throughout this community and country.

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty three, our students, staff and families warmly

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Speaker 3: as an enthusiastic voice in support of our students' academic

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Speaker 3: success and the need to support public education. So yesterday

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Speaker 3: came as a shock to all of us. I want

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Speaker 3: to be clear today we still do not have all

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Speaker 3: of the facts According to ICE, in May twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 3: an immigration judge issued a final removal order for doctor Roberts.

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Speaker 3: We were not made aware of that fact, and that's

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Speaker 3: very concerning. I want to be clear, no one here

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Speaker 3: was aware of any citizenship or immigration issues that doctor

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Speaker 3: Roberts may have been facing.

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Speaker 1: Now, that could be possible that nobody knew, But the

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Speaker 1: fact that you said it now makes me say, show me.

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Speaker 2: Was there ever a question?

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Speaker 1: Was there ever anybody who looked, Was there ever any

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Speaker 1: basic standards from Des Moines Public schools in whom they

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Speaker 1: were hiring, that any background checks were done at all?

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Speaker 1: Was there any criminal check that went with a background

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Speaker 1: check that you didn't know? Is something that I could accept,

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if I understand why it is

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Speaker 1: you didn't know?

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Speaker 2: Why was this not known?

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Speaker 1: Was this because on every piece of paperwork he lied

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Speaker 1: in such a way that it was impossible to check,

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Speaker 1: or that you didn't check. Now, I think that's a

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Speaker 1: legitimate question. I don't think I've said anything out of

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Speaker 3: Have I The accusations ICE has made against doctor Roberts

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Speaker 3: are very serious, and we are taking them very seriously.

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Speaker 2: With all due respect. This isn't an accusation.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, the Biden administration deemed that he

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be in the country and called for his removal.

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Speaker 2: It's a it's not an accusation. That is an action.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a matter of word play. Check

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Speaker 2: that out. Accusation. What's the accusation.

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Speaker 1: The accusation is he doesn't like I don't know, broccoli like.

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Speaker 2: That's an accusation. I don't know. It's a good accusation,

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Speaker 2: but that's an accusation.

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Speaker 1: He was ordered removed from the country is a fact,

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Speaker 1: not an accusation.

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Speaker 2: Again, Liberal women.

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Speaker 3: Doctor Roberts has retained the parish pride in your law

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Speaker 3: firm and they have already provided the statement on their

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Speaker 3: role and they will be probably offering future statements. As

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Speaker 3: we shared yesterday afternoon, employers including dan are required to

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Speaker 3: veriflu verify employment eligibility for all employees. In this case,

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Speaker 3: doctor Roberts completed the I nine Employment Eligibility Verification form

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Speaker 3: and submitted the required documentation.

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Speaker 2: Everything the district has.

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Speaker 3: On file indicates that doctor Roberts affirmed that he was

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Speaker 3: a citizen who is eligible to work in the school district.

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Speaker 1: He affirmed the question, Oh my gosh, guys, well I'm

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Speaker 1: doing this with you.

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Speaker 2: I hear you. You're saying the same things I am.

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Speaker 2: He affirmed, that's great.

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Speaker 1: That's like your four year old affirming that there are

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Speaker 1: an astronaut.

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Speaker 2: But they're not an astronaut.

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Speaker 1: They're a four year old dope who still whets the bed.

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Speaker 1: So can we please get into what we verified? Who

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Speaker 1: cares what he said? All of a sudden, you realize

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Speaker 1: how important Reagan was. Trust but verify? What did you verify?

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Speaker 1: School board in Des Moines Public schools, The.

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Speaker 3: Iowa Departiment of Education issued a license in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 3: to the point superintendent. The agency says an FBI criminal

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Speaker 3: background check did not raise issues, and Roberts said he

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Speaker 3: was a US citizen on the application.

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Speaker 1: So he lied on the application and the background check

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Speaker 1: went to a group that might not have access to

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Speaker 1: citizenship issues.

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Speaker 2: Huh huh.

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Speaker 1: Well, now we understand exactly how these gun laws work,

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Speaker 1: don't we.

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Their answer is, well, we need another law, we need

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Speaker 1: another check, we need another this, we need another that.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't stop the people who lie. It didn't stop

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Speaker 1: this guy, the so called doctor. It didn't stop Hunter Biden.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't stop the criminal elements. All it does is

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Speaker 1: keep law abiding people from being able to exercise their

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Speaker 1: rights or be abused by a government that finally has

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Speaker 1: somebody they can abuse because they filled out the form.

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Speaker 2: But if they fit the liberal.

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Speaker 1: Roadmap there, if they fit the liberal fantasy, will then

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Speaker 1: no abuse whatsoever. This guy lied on forms. That's what

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Speaker 1: these liberals are telling us.

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Speaker 3: Later on, we will address the specific steps the board

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Speaker 3: took when conducting the superintendent search and hiring doctor Roberts

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Two things can be true.

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Speaker 3: We must support our interim superintendent and staff as they

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Speaker 3: lead thirty five thousand students and staff on Monday, because

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Speaker 3: our collective role is to educate and support our students

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Speaker 3: and their families. And we must continue to pursue the

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Speaker 3: facts in this case. And understand our school community is

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Speaker 3: still processing this very significant.

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Speaker 2: Issue, processing what he lied. He lied, and it's possible

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Speaker 2: you knew he lied and you never ever did.

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Speaker 1: Anything about it, or really, I shouldn't say really, but

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Speaker 1: also true, you never did any background checks of your own,

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Speaker 1: except the most cursory things that never once looked into

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Speaker 1: other issues he lied that's the story. What are you

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Speaker 1: processing now? What are you processing that you got taken

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Speaker 1: be taken in by the lie. You never questioned because

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Speaker 1: you don't question, because as long as you check the

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Speaker 1: boxes that allow you to be all about identity, you.

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Speaker 2: Don't ask nothing. For the record, every single superintendent.

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Speaker 1: In the United States of America, black or white, Asian

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Speaker 1: or Hispanic, gay or straight, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, whatever it is,

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Speaker 1: should go through right now, the most extensive background check ever,

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Speaker 1: including them giving a urine sample.

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Speaker 2: Right now, every superintendent.

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Speaker 1: Every superintendent, with the sound of my voice, which there

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Speaker 1: are a great many, every superintendent of public instruction across

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Speaker 1: the country. Let's make sure that everybody is qualified to

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Speaker 2: And is in the country legally.

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Speaker 1: Right now, right now, every single superintendent. I'm willing to

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Speaker 1: bet all the money in my pocket against all the

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Speaker 1: money in your pocket to steal a line from the

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Speaker 1: West Wing that there's at least one more. What you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm right, I know, I'm right. Everybody knows this. There's

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Speaker 1: at least one more. There should be checks going on.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually surprised that Governor de Santos wasn't first to this,

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Speaker 1: really and truly check every single superintendent and make sure

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Speaker 1: that they're up to snuff. I'm surprised that Governor Kim

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Speaker 1: Reynolds has of eye. Why hasn't moved on this ten

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Speaker 1: thousand percent check, double check and recheck every single I'm

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Speaker 1: superintendent and make sure that they're in the country legally.

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Speaker 1: A couple other things about the school board. As they're

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Speaker 1: going through these talking points, they want you to cool

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Speaker 1: down the rhetoric and stop spreading misinformation, urging people to

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Speaker 1: consider how upsetting the situation is for children who are

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Speaker 1: on social media twenty four to seven.

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Speaker 2: First of all, it's in terrible parenting.

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Speaker 1: Secondly, that's a ridiculous thing to say.

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Speaker 2: And third, what's the misinformation? We have this data?

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Speaker 1: Two things I want you to note. First that the

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Speaker 3: On behalf of the Des Moines Public School community. I

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Speaker 1: Radical empathy is some social justice nonsense that says, stop

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Speaker 2: We're going to absolutely notice what happened here. You were more.

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Speaker 1: Interested in checking boxes than checking backgrounds, and this is

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Speaker 2: We got to protect our kids. Can't have lawbreakers teaching

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Speaker 1: You can't vote for liberal women anymore. They check boxes,

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Speaker 2: Have the mind.

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Speaker 1: Now someone's going to email me and tell me how

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Speaker 5: But here's the game changer. The system can be restored

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Speaker 1: What the bloody heck am I listening to Tony Katz

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today, Good to be with you. This was

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Speaker 1: ping pong. I don't know, And is this about taking hemp?

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Speaker 2: Well as years spending good health? And seniors are already.

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Speaker 5: Using CBD today for pain, arthritis, cancer symptoms, sleep disorders, Alzheimer's,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's happening here.

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Speaker 1: Is this? Is this what happens when you make Robert F.

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Speaker 1: Kennedy Junior your OLT in Human Services secretary.

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, it's you know what everybody needs? Weed?

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: You don't need to be worrying about other things like medicines.

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Speaker 1: All you need is just a great big bunch of weed.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what's getting said here. Weed every day, y'all.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know I had that. I had no

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Speaker 2: I don't know why he posted this. I the whole

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Speaker 1: The question, of course, is whether your city wants it,

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Speaker 1: you're in Chicago, anytime you're in New York. You're not

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Speaker 2: What's the plan here?

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Speaker 1: But if we're going to discuss marijuana or psilocybin or

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Speaker 1: I don't think we should stop doing that at all.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know what President Trump is putting here.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it was a mistake, who knows, but it's out

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea why Donald Trump is meeting with

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Speaker 1: to be with you. I should say it more clearly.

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Speaker 1: The government will shut down. The Democratic Party has absolutely

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Speaker 1: They will lie about everything, They will engage a manipulation

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Speaker 1: and Schumer has gotten old old Tony Katz. Tony Katz today,

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Speaker 1: good to be with you. When I state that it

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Speaker 1: is very very clear that Schumer can't beat Representative of

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Speaker 2: He can't. There is absolutely no way that he can

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Speaker 2: do this, none less than none. He can't win. He's

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Speaker 1: He screwed up the last shutdown in the eyes of Democrats.

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Speaker 2: Now, this was him just last week, Chuck Schumer to president.

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Speaker 6: Today all America can see the glaring contrast between Republican

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Speaker 2: Senators will have to choose.

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Speaker 6: To stand with Donald Trump and keep the same lousy

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Speaker 2: Keep the government functioning the Trump Healthcare shutdown. Call whatever

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Speaker 1: No one is moved by this. It doesn't connect with anybody.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't work. No one is going to change their

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Speaker 2: No one knows you.

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Speaker 1: Call it anything you want, kitten, no one cares. But

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Speaker 1: then again, this was last week. Chuck Schumer does this.

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Speaker 2: And finally both sides should at least talk.

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Speaker 6: Donald Trump does not want to talk. He has said

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Speaker 6: shut down. That's what Trump has said. He either doesn't

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Speaker 6: know the Senate procedure. Will you need sixty votes, that's obvious,

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Speaker 6: Donald Trump is saying he wants a shutdown, and Leader

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Speaker 6: Thoon and Speaker Johnson should resist Trump's bullying. Know, the

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Speaker 1: Why we just thank goodness they don't have the majority anymore. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Trump's not Biden, and you weren't negotiating with Biden. You

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Speaker 2: That much was painfully, painfully obvious.

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Speaker 1: Now Trump is saying, Okay, we'll sit down before we

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Speaker 2: What does he want?

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Speaker 1: What's the purpose? He didn't have to sit down with

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Speaker 1: Trump didn't need to. It's all gonna be on Schumer's head.

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Speaker 1: It's all gonna be on the Keem Jeffrey's head.

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Speaker 2: And that's it.

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Speaker 1: And since we've been through so many of these things,

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Speaker 1: The stuff is now commonplace and it's boring. It's boring

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Speaker 1: gonna see what. Well, we decided to give Democrats exactly

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Speaker 1: Well, they really wanted to expand these Obamacare tax credits.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's very possible. That's very possible.

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Speaker 1: The fact that I may not like it, the fact

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Speaker 1: What is it that the Trump administration can do that

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Speaker 2: So you know what do we expect?

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Speaker 2: All the way around here.

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Speaker 1: You think Republicans have done anything to really cut spending

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm not saying that I want it, that I

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm going back to Tea Party days. We

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to learn from and do it better

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Speaker 1: the next time.

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Speaker 2: But keep going.

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Speaker 1: The key to DOGE working is to keep it up,

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Speaker 1: keep cutting, keep slashing, keep removing, bring down debt, pay

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Speaker 1: off debt, and then do it again, and do it again.

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Speaker 2: Democrats have no way interest in this.

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Speaker 1: They have an interest in keeping these institutions that provide

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Speaker 1: no value in keeping them alive, in keeping them growing,

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Speaker 1: in keeping them well funded, so they always have a

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Speaker 1: landing pad for themselves or their brother in law in

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Speaker 1: case they lose their gig USA ideas.

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Speaker 2: I see.

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Speaker 1: It was nothing more than that. It was nothing more

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Speaker 1: than fluffy mattresses for people. So when they landed, they

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Speaker 1: landed comfortably.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: I would love to see these people act like grown

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Speaker 1: ups and get me a true legitimate spending though that

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Speaker 1: cuts spending and pays off debt.

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Speaker 2: I'm a boy who dreams. What can I say?

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Speaker 1: But do you need the Democrats just have the shutdown

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Speaker 1: and blame it on them? The answer is sure, go

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Speaker 1: right ahead. But if they're gonna do it, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be all about the Republicans saying we really needed to

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Speaker 1: save these Medicare tax credits'm acaras should say, tax credits

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Speaker 1: is Medicaid something else. So we made sure that the

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Speaker 1: Democrats knew you want to shut down the government for

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Speaker 1: political reasons, and we want to really help the people.

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Speaker 1: And the Democrats are going to say no, we're the

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Speaker 1: ones who want to help the people, and the Republicans

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Speaker 1: are going to say, but we're the ones who made

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Speaker 1: it happen and a stealing of the thunder. That's the

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Speaker 1: only reason I can think to be having a conversation

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Speaker 1: at the moment with the Democratic Party about the possibility

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Speaker 1: of a shutdown. The only thing I can come to

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Speaker 1: is what can you steal from them? And how important

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Speaker 1: will that be going into the midterms? That kids is

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Speaker 1: politics one oh one, and I think that's what we're seeing.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. Find everything at Tony kats dot com.

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Speaker 1: This is Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 2: They'll proclaim that.

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Speaker 4: New York City communists or a Mandanni who is running

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Speaker 4: from there will proved to be one of the best

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Speaker 4: things ever to happen to the Great Republican Party from

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Speaker 4: the Washington like no Marian history.

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Speaker 3: So bigly is threatening you again in the wake of

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Speaker 3: Adams dropping out of the race, what's your thonts to that?

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Speaker 2: Know, you're worried that New York will be in a

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Speaker 2: worse position with the federal.

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Speaker 5: Government can become.

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Speaker 4: I think that Donald Trump is going through the stages

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Speaker 4: of grief. He began with denial where he said that

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Speaker 4: there was no way we could win this race and

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Speaker 4: that he would use every tool at his disposal to

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Speaker 4: ensure that that was the case. And we saw that

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Speaker 4: in phone calls that he had with Andrew Cuomo, in

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Speaker 4: briefings that he had with pollsters. And now we've reached

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Speaker 4: the point where he's coming to terms with the fact

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Speaker 4: that we're going to win this race.

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Speaker 2: And he's coming to terms.

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Speaker 4: Because New Yorkers are tired of a politics here in

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Speaker 4: this city that has more to do with Washington than

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Speaker 4: it has to do with the people of this same city.

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Speaker 4: And what we're seeing is, even when you have a

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Speaker 4: mayor who is collaborating to every extent possible with this administration,

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Speaker 4: you are still seeing a federal policy of detaining New

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Speaker 4: Yorkers as young as six years old, of withholding more

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Speaker 4: than fifty million dollars in funding from our schools, of

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Speaker 4: taking eighty million dollars out of a bank account. You

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Speaker 4: still see an administration that at this city as something

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Speaker 4: that is to be punished each and every day. And

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Speaker 4: what the city deserves is someone who.

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Speaker 1: Will fight for We know that, Oh, Mom, Donnie, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a cute line about Trump, but it doesn't change

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Speaker 1: the fact that New York is heading for some bad,

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Speaker 1: bad things, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be

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Speaker 1: with you. Eric Adams getting out of the race, sliwa.

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Speaker 1: The Republicans still in the race, Andrew Cuomo is still

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Speaker 1: thinking he can win this race. I don't see how

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Speaker 1: the Democrats aren't going to vote for the communists because

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Speaker 1: that's who they are, and New York should suffer because

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Speaker 1: of it.

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Speaker 2: I can't say it any more clearly. If this is

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Speaker 2: what they want, this is what they will get, and

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Speaker 2: it's what they deserve.

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Speaker 1: Now in all of these situations, at all of these times,

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Speaker 1: there are people who don't deserve this. There are plenty

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Speaker 1: of New Yorkers who aren't interested in Mom Donnie, not

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Speaker 1: interested in progressivism. Dear Lord, we call them Staten Island.

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Speaker 1: But they're going to get it because the vast amount

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Speaker 1: of New Yorkers want to be hurt, they want to

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Speaker 1: be punished, they want to suffer.

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Speaker 2: They believe in this insanity of the socialism.

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Speaker 1: So that's it, that's all they get, that's all they

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Speaker 1: are entitled to, and I can't bring myself to feel

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Speaker 1: bad for them. I will say this, if Mom Donnie wins,

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Speaker 1: my wife and I already have got a long weekend set,

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Speaker 1: We're like, Okay, here's the election day. Here's when we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go and have our last gasp for museums, Magnolia,

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Speaker 1: for a bakery, for some cupcakes, gotta hit Tavola because

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Speaker 1: of the bore and vill met pauls n so good,

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Speaker 1: a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Of Russ and Daughters, a couple of the places. We're

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Speaker 2: out and we'll see if the city survives.

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Speaker 1: Now, in all of these situations, you understand that survival

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Speaker 1: takes place because you've got a great number of people

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Speaker 1: and you still have plenty of money there. How long

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Speaker 1: do you think the money stays? How long do you

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Speaker 1: think the money will actually stay.

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Speaker 2: In New York?

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you haven't heard Mom, Dannie, And the

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Speaker 1: reason I bring it up is your city is next

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Speaker 1: your Tulsa, Peoria, Detroit, Saint Louis, Indianapolis, Fort Wayne, Your

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Speaker 1: city's next Baton Rouge is next, of course it is.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard his plan about housing? Go further toward

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Speaker 1: the Vienna model.

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Speaker 2: We'll have to go beyond the market.

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Speaker 4: We can establish community land trust to gradually buy up

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Speaker 4: housing on the private market and convert it to community ownership.

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Speaker 4: We can give tenants to rite a first refusal to

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Speaker 4: buy out their landlords when buildings go up for sale,

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Speaker 4: and we can fully commit to a new era of

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Speaker 4: social housing, ending subsidies for luxury housing development, and using

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Speaker 4: our wealth to build beautiful, high quality social house projects

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Speaker 4: that offer good homes and strong communities to everyone.

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Speaker 2: Our wealth, you mean the wealth that you steal? What

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Speaker 2: our wealth? Our wealth? Community wealth?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: Could you stole it for the benefit of the community,

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Speaker 1: as if all of a sudden the community is going

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Speaker 1: to be wealthy. No, no, no, the people at the

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Speaker 1: top get wealth it everybody else suffers. Also, community ownership.

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Speaker 1: Who's going to keep it clean? Who's going to keep

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Speaker 1: the community owned housing clean? This is what New York

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Speaker 1: is voting for. And the reason it matters, the reason

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Speaker 1: it comes up, the reason we're discussing it here and now,

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Speaker 1: is because this is the way other cities will go

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Speaker 1: if we are not careful, if we are not aware,

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Speaker 1: if we do not vote, and if we don't get

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Speaker 1: our kids out of the universities that build and breed

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Speaker 1: this kind of ignorance. We have to remove our kids

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Speaker 1: at extricate them from this problem. You can't send your

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Speaker 1: kids to communists generating factories.

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Speaker 2: You can't do it. It doesn't matter what they want,

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter if they get angry, forget them.

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Speaker 1: They're wrong, You're right. Your job is to save them

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Speaker 1: from themselves, even when they're twenty. If they want to

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Speaker 1: pay for it on their own, you might be a

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Speaker 1: little bit screwed there. But if it's your check, good lord,

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Speaker 1: stand up for yourself, but say something. The answer is no,

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Speaker 1: That school is garbage. You've already been half poisoned and

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Speaker 1: I've had enough of that crap. There's long been the

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Speaker 1: theory that you just got to you know, your kids

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Speaker 1: are feeling themselves out, you just got to be there

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Speaker 1: for them, be there for them. I think it has

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Speaker 1: to be a much more proactive. No, we don't do

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Speaker 1: that here. I'm not putting up with that, not having that.

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Speaker 2: You're just wrong. What else is going on?

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Speaker 1: We need that kind of direct focus with kids, young

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Speaker 1: men and women man more than ever.

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Speaker 2: Get the podcasts wherever it is you get your podcast people.

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