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Speaker 1: Know, when you the And it's interesting because the we

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Speaker 2: He's the same guy day after day, game after game.

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Speaker 2: But I don't doubt that Indiana is capable, don't I

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Speaker 1: Now don they And I cheated here. I looked it

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Speaker 3: To be able to do that, and if you don't

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Speaker 2: To have a game like that last week, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: on this radio station. Don, somebody asked me this, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's basically boils down to what television wants wants

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Speaker 1: Don We look forward to it coming up Oregon in

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 2: There's no question about that, and that makes me happy

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Speaker 1: You're used to guys in September asking you about who's

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Speaker 3: All right, thanks Jake dot Fisher, the voice.

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Speaker 1: Of the Hoosiers, joining us on the program. So chirp, chirp,

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Speaker 5: Doing good and doing good getting ready for Western Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I got to know what it is to

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Speaker 5: It's enough to have me on when I was hired

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Speaker 5: True story and I listened to your show, so I

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Speaker 1: Right now, So if you don't mind me asking, and

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Speaker 5: I gave you plenty of time to make your way.

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Speaker 5: We took a pig on Saturday. Every year, all my

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Speaker 1: And okay, I totally apologize for that, right, totally apologized,

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Speaker 5: There definitely is. And I've been up coaching the MAC

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Speaker 1: When you go into that game against Ohio and you're down,

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Speaker 5: I honestly believe our kids gained confidence as the game

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Speaker 6: You're right here.

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Speaker 5: We've talked about fourth quarters all off season and this

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Speaker 1: Are you a different team in terms of the way

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Speaker 1: Wait, did you say you camp from Wednesday to Sunday

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Speaker 5: I got to make sure I'm early and got everything

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Speaker 1: Now, how rudimentary is this camping process? I mean, are

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Speaker 5: When I first started going in high school, I slept

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Speaker 1: Out in the coke lot.

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Speaker 5: Now I've graduated to that lot. That's kind of right

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Speaker 1: Yeahs, the gated community of the Coke Lott is Derek

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Speaker 5: and our defensive coordinator goes with us every year as

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's all right. I make the make we

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Speaker 5: make the boys carry the coolers because they're young, they're

440
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Speaker 5: in high school and college and Jack just walk.

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Speaker 1: And it's beautiful. Listen. It is like it's unlike anything.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's just no way to explain, Like if

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Speaker 1: you're on vacation or you're on recruiting trip or whatever

444
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Speaker 1: and you're talking to a kid's dad that you know,

445
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Speaker 1: and you're talking about it, if they're not from here,

446
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Speaker 1: there's just no way to explain everything that goes into it, right.

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Speaker 5: No, you can't. It's it's a great I mean, even

448
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Speaker 5: you know, people who don't know anything about racing, they

449
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Speaker 5: come to the event and they want to keep coming

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Speaker 5: back because everybody's there to have a good times. I

451
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Speaker 5: love the patriotic element of it because obviously I love

452
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Speaker 5: our country and it's just a it's a great weekend

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Speaker 5: and it's an opportunity for me as a coach. It's

454
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Speaker 5: a great time of year for us, spring balls over,

455
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Speaker 5: recruiting is just getting over with for May camp start

456
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Speaker 5: in June. So it's the one the one week of

457
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Speaker 5: the year that I take off and really try to

458
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Speaker 5: just get away from everything.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's listen, I love it obviously, and apparently

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Speaker 1: during the week the only thing that I take, you know,

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Speaker 1: get away from is checking my messages on social media.

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Speaker 1: So my apologies, right.

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Speaker 5: I'm kind of glad it happened. Now we got something

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Speaker 5: good to make fun of.

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Speaker 1: I guess Akron the next home game for you guys, right,

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Speaker 1: that's going to be coming up a week from Saturday,

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Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, three thirty up there, right, Yep,

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Speaker 1: that's correct, all right, plenty of opportunity for folks to

469
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Speaker 1: get up see some MAAC football again getting a win

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Speaker 1: over Ohio twenty fourteen. The ball State Cardinals on the

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Speaker 1: road against Western Michigan coming up this week. Coach, appreciate

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Speaker 1: the time. As always, we miss you. The best of luck.

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Speaker 5: All right, thanks, appreciate you having me on.

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Speaker 1: I much appreciate it, Mike you Rimvich the head coach

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Speaker 1: and by the way, apparently my midweek coast at the

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis five hundred mile race leading up to next year's

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Speaker 1: running and coach joining us on the JAVA House pealingpor

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Speaker 1: guest line. Yes, in fact, believe it. The Colts are

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Speaker 1: four and one and assuming they stay healthy, seems as

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Speaker 1: though they are in very good position, even though it

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Speaker 1: is so early in the year. And I get it,

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Speaker 1: but I wanted to get the perspective just on whether

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Speaker 1: or not we're showing a bias or whether or not

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Speaker 1: they in fact are legitimately good. So who better to

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Speaker 1: bring on to the program? Joining us now on the

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Speaker 1: JAVA House peel and poor guest line. He is with

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Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated. He's a return guest of the program at

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Speaker 1: Verde ram Matt I will simply ask you that question.

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Speaker 1: The Cults, in your opinion, good, very good or great.

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Speaker 4: Very good, very good.

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Speaker 6: I mean they look, they're second in the yards for play,

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Speaker 6: they are fourth in yardage, they are second in points. Defensively,

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Speaker 6: they're they're good. I don't think they're great defensives. They're

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Speaker 6: good essentially, and that's that's fine. Like when you're playing

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Speaker 6: offense while they're playing. Taylor's run the heck out of

496
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Speaker 6: the ball. I did my all Pro teams at the

497
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Speaker 6: quarter pole before this weekend, and Daniel Jones the second team.

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Speaker 4: And I think right.

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Speaker 6: Now part of that is, you knowless he's playing above

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Speaker 6: expectations and all that. Do I you know, is he

501
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Speaker 6: the second best quarterback in football? No, but to this

502
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Speaker 6: point he's been excellent. He's done everything they could have

503
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Speaker 6: ever expected. Then some Taylor was my number one back.

504
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Speaker 6: He's been the iping the best back in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: The offensive line is doing its part and the receivers

506
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Speaker 6: are doing theirs, and Warren's been awesome. I did Warren

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Speaker 6: look the last year brought Bauers is an All Pro

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Speaker 6: tight end as a rookie. Warren might be this year.

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Speaker 6: So I think the Colts are a very good team.

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Speaker 6: Who there's gonna be people nationally who say, oh, look

511
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Speaker 6: like three O the four wins. Look at they've been again,

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Speaker 6: that's fine, they've pounded those teams. Give me one because

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Speaker 6: they win those games twenty one twenty.

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Speaker 4: They're not.

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Speaker 6: They're winning those games the way a really good team

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Speaker 6: would win those games, which is just blowing those teams out.

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Speaker 6: So the Colts listen, they've they've got to keep doing it.

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Speaker 6: But right now, yeah, I think you'd have to be

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Speaker 6: super impressed.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting because let's begin with this at

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the year. I remember asking you just

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Speaker 1: before the season began, and you were dead on when

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Speaker 1: I said, who's a team that has the feel to

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Speaker 1: be one that could just completely be a dumpster fire

525
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Speaker 1: and unravel before our very eyes? And you said Miami

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Speaker 1: and certain. And then Week one came around and I

527
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Speaker 1: thought to myself, verde Am is a genius. This team

528
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Speaker 1: looked completely lost, right, But is Indianapolis to be it

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Speaker 1: good or bad? Either way? Is Indianapolis the biggest surprise

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Speaker 1: for you?

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Speaker 6: Yes, well they're They're the most They're the biggest surprise

532
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Speaker 6: in a positive way. Miami, as you point out and.

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Speaker 4: Not far from the genius.

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Speaker 6: But it's not surprising to me because I thought they'd

535
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Speaker 6: be terrible and they are. The Ravens are the biggest

536
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Speaker 6: surprise for me in terms of part of that is

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Speaker 6: they're insanely beat up. But they weren't insanely beat up

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Speaker 6: until this past weekend. Like they went to Kansas City

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Speaker 6: and they were favored in that game, and they were

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Speaker 6: two and a half points favored in Arrowhead and got

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Speaker 6: their teeth kicked in and they were healthy on offense.

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Speaker 6: There was a few guys on defense. They had everybody

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Speaker 6: in that game offensively, and they got crushed. And I

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Speaker 6: understand what, You're not going to beat the Texans when

545
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Speaker 6: you're missing you know, one hundred guys.

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Speaker 4: I get it. They didn't even show up.

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Speaker 6: I mean that's a home game and they just laid

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Speaker 6: down in acting. So for me, the two biggest surprises

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Speaker 6: are in the AFC, Baltimore looks like a complete dog

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Speaker 6: and Indianapolis look, I mean look around the conference. Okay,

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Speaker 6: Buffalo in Kansas City. You respect them in the sense

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Speaker 6: that they're always there.

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Speaker 4: You got the quarterback, you know they're gonna be there

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Speaker 4: after that.

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Speaker 6: Show me a team better than Indianapolis?

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Speaker 4: Who is it?

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Speaker 6: Who's the team? Like I wrote about this on my

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Speaker 6: columnists they had SI the good, bad, and ugly, like who's.

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Speaker 4: Better than them?

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Speaker 6: It's not the Chargers.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's Denver. Is it Pittsburgh?

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Speaker 6: I don't think so, Like is it something in the shouts?

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Speaker 4: I don't think it is.

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Speaker 6: Who Who's the team? So if I'm the Colts, I'm

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Speaker 6: sitting there going, look, we can go on a nice

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Speaker 6: run here in this conference, and who knows, maybe even

567
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Speaker 6: shock Gold. But there's nobody outside of Buffalo, Kansas City

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Speaker 6: that I sit there and go, oh yeah, I would

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Speaker 6: definitely pick that team over Indiana.

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Speaker 3: Playoff games you.

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Speaker 1: Will, I'll tell you a team that's intriguing to me, Matt,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think they're as good as Indianapolis, but

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Speaker 1: I'm curious your thoughts on them because I just don't know.

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Speaker 1: This is the one team that I'm still like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, like which the real version is going to

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Speaker 1: stand up here? And that's Jacksonville. You know, they've started

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Speaker 1: to show a little bit more competency, But is that

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Speaker 1: fools Gold or can Jacksonville be one that keeps within range?

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Speaker 1: Of the Colts for the totality of the season, I.

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Speaker 6: Think Jacksonville is about a five hundred team.

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Speaker 4: Look.

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Speaker 6: I like Liam Kellen. I think he's done a nice shout.

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Speaker 6: The problem with Jacksonville right now that I see is

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Speaker 6: two pronged.

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Speaker 4: One is Lawrence has not been good.

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Speaker 6: In fact, the Lawrence has been downright bad, and they've

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Speaker 6: survived it because they've forced thirteen takeaways in four games.

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Speaker 4: And yet even with that, they needed.

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Speaker 6: Punt return to beat the forty nine. They needed they

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Speaker 6: needed a Houston team that, outside of playing Baltimore, can't

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Speaker 6: score a point. To lose seventeen to ten the game,

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Speaker 6: they had three takeaways, their plus two in the takeaway margin.

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Speaker 6: And that's to me, the very interesting thing with Jacksonville tonight,

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Speaker 6: like they're an underdog at homes. Kansas City doesn't sound

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Speaker 6: like Trayvon Walker is gonna play Kansas City is going

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Speaker 6: to play man coverage, and they are gonna blitch the

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Speaker 6: daylights out of.

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Speaker 4: Lawrence in this game.

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Speaker 6: They're just gonna bring everybody. They're not going to care,

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Speaker 6: They're gonna single up everybody because they can with their corners.

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Speaker 6: And the interesting thing tonight is if Jacksonville can't turn

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Speaker 6: Kansas City over?

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Speaker 4: Can they win?

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Speaker 6: Can or is there one of these things where if

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Speaker 6: they don't get a bunch of extra possessions and a

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Speaker 6: bunch of good field position, then the balloom kind of

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Speaker 6: falls off the roads.

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Speaker 4: I was actually looking at this.

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Speaker 6: So Jacksonville is number one in terms of the best

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Speaker 6: turnover differential. Here's the stat that is unbelievable, but it's true.

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Speaker 6: The Chiefs have not lost a game in which they've

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Speaker 6: won the turnover battle since week six of twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 6: They're thirty eight and oh including the playoffs when they

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Speaker 6: win the turnover battle since that game. So Jacksonville's got

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Speaker 6: to win it tonight because if they don't, historically speaking,

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Speaker 6: they'll be three and two, and all of a sudden

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Speaker 6: you look at him and you say, they got seatle

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Speaker 6: coming in, and you know what happens moving forward.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what Matt and I've been Admittedly, you

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Speaker 1: know I'm a Clemson fan, right so I saw Lawrence

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Speaker 1: play every game in college. I've mentioned this ondayre one

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Speaker 1: hundred times. He to me was a slam dunk Peyton

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Speaker 1: Manning reincarnation. I'm like, this guy is the guy and

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Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. It's still on the tar

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Speaker 1: back as an NFL player, And I don't know is

626
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Speaker 1: it injury, is it didn't have enough supporting cast early.

627
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Speaker 1: Is it quarterbacks need more time to develop and they

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Speaker 1: just didn't build around him, or in fact, was he

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Speaker 1: just throwing to Sunday receivers in college and it led

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Speaker 1: us to believe he's better than he is.

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Speaker 4: No, I mean, I'm with you in this.

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Speaker 6: I'm not a constant stand. I watched him a ton

633
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Speaker 6: in college and I thought he'd be the next Hall

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Speaker 6: of Fame type of quarterback coming out. Can't miss all

635
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Speaker 6: that stuff. I think part of it was his first year.

636
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Speaker 6: He played for Irvin Meyer, who is one of the

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Speaker 6: worst head coaches I've ever.

638
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Speaker 4: Seen at the NFL.

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Speaker 6: His entire rookie year was basically watching his coach act

640
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Speaker 6: like a clown. And then they had to get Doug

641
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Speaker 6: Peterson in there, and that started out well. They went

642
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Speaker 6: to the playoffs, they won a playoff game, and then

643
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Speaker 6: they were eight and three the following year and Lawrence

644
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Speaker 6: got hurt. They missed the playoffs. They fell apart. Then

645
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Speaker 6: last year there are more injuries. I think it's a

646
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 6: combination of things and then you look at them this show.

647
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Speaker 6: Brian Thomas Junior, who was awesome as a rookie, has

648
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Speaker 6: done nothing. Travis Hunter offensively, he has done very very little.

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Speaker 6: Their offense right now is Travis ETN And if you

650
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Speaker 6: can cultail EPN, that's kind of it. Like and that's look,

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Speaker 6: I think Lawrence the talent is there the problem I

652
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Speaker 6: have with Lawrence? And frankly it surprises me with him.

653
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Speaker 6: He'll make three or four unbelievable throws in the game,

654
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Speaker 6: but he just misses easy throws.

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Speaker 1: No, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he'll miss half doesn't throws a game here, Like

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Speaker 6: how do you miss that? But that guy, that guy's

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Speaker 6: wide open.

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Speaker 4: Man just lay it in there for fifteen yards?

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Speaker 6: And that is that is something that you wonder if

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Speaker 6: he had been developed better early in his career, would

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Speaker 6: that not be a problem.

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Speaker 1: Matt, do you believe Matt verda Rim is our guest

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Speaker 1: from SI He is on the Java House Peel and

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Speaker 1: poor guest line. Do you believe that we will see

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Speaker 1: in the next let's say, between now and the end

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Speaker 1: of next season, if Daniel Jones is healthy? Do you

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Speaker 1: believe that Anthony Richardson will at any point accumulate still

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Speaker 1: a total of six starts in the NFL, not an Indy.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think if Jones continues to play like this,

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Speaker 6: if you're if you're the colch yeah.

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Speaker 4: And that guy out of the building, you're kidding. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you've been you've been waiting, and I get it.

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Speaker 6: Look I understand because even I feel this way, there's

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Speaker 6: a part of you that says, it's Daniel Jones. He

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Speaker 6: was a bust in New York, and you're really gonna

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Speaker 6: believe in it. But at the same point, like we

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Speaker 6: have seen this time and again, when guys, especially guys

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Speaker 6: who were high draft picks, have gotten out of a

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Speaker 6: place or it didn't work, they get somewhere else, they

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Speaker 6: find the right system, the right coach, and all of

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Speaker 6: a sudden starts to worm. Baker Mayfield is a great example.

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Speaker 1: Donald yesterday's game, Donald Mayfield and Donald.

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Speaker 4: Yeah like those two and it's happened even before.

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Speaker 6: Look, Rich Dannon was a guy years ago who is

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Speaker 6: who bounced around the game an MVP.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 6: You know, Kerry Collins was a guy who you know

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Speaker 6: had success later on in his career. Giants go to

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Speaker 6: who I mean there are a lot of examples of it.

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Speaker 6: You look at Jones and I think, if you're the culture,

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Speaker 6: you say, listen.

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Speaker 4: You know what.

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Speaker 6: He doesn't turn the ball over. He is accurate, he's

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Speaker 6: got some mobility, he's still in his twenties. And if

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Speaker 6: you've got Anthony Richardson sitting there, maybe you deal him.

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Speaker 6: Maybe you deal him for a pick and say, you

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Speaker 6: know what, we take d L on this one.

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Speaker 4: It happens. That's I mean, it's just look.

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Speaker 6: If you're the cult of if Jones sends up being

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Speaker 6: anywhere near it's because he's been the first five games.

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Speaker 4: It's fine, you know, you move on, You'll live with it.

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Speaker 6: You think you're lucky stars to found the guy.

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Speaker 4: You keep moving.

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Speaker 6: But I think it's really hard at this point that

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Speaker 6: John's is healthy to see any real world where Anthony

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Speaker 6: Richardson's getting back on the field in the near or

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Speaker 6: even somewhat distance.

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Speaker 1: Ye, Matt Verderram is our guest, SI I Matt, you're

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Speaker 1: working on what in terms of articles still upcoming that

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Speaker 1: we can find from you.

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Speaker 6: Uh, well, this week is my quarterback rankings. I'll do

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Speaker 6: them somewhat quarter better before weeks is the first one. Uh,

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Speaker 6: Friday preview file for the five best games of the week.

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Speaker 6: I'm going down It's not gonna be coming out anytime soon,

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Speaker 6: and I'm going out to interview Joe Nama tomorrow for

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Speaker 6: a magazine piece that I.

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Speaker 4: Hope people check out.

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Speaker 6: It's coming out the December issue. So a ton of stuff.

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Speaker 6: I got Collins up in the Dolphins the Raves. I

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Speaker 6: wrote about the Colt yesterday in my Good, Bad and

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Speaker 6: Ugly column. There's there's plenty, there's plenty. I'm certainly busiest

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Speaker 6: time here.

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Speaker 3: Have you.

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Speaker 1: Have you had encounter with Joath before?

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Speaker 6: Yes, I've interviewed the multiple times over the phone. Is

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Speaker 6: the first time down first?

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's pretty cool, right. He was at an

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Speaker 1: IndyCar race at Alabama a couple of years ago and

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Speaker 1: was actually super nice guy, to be honest with you, about.

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Speaker 4: The nicest guy you can get.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, super nice guy. He's gonna have to deal with

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Speaker 6: me asking him questions about Super Bowl for hours on end.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, well can find I mean, what the heck

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Speaker 6: calm Beach, I'll uh, yeah, it's hard to really complain

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Speaker 6: about going down there.

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Speaker 4: Not the worst assignment I've ever had in my career.

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Speaker 1: That's let's just say that clearly at this point he's

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Speaker 1: he's one of the nicer of the ex Jets quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: We've learned that much, right.

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Speaker 6: I mean, well you've really learned that in Indy definitely true.

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Speaker 4: Say that's one of those stories that like started out

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Speaker 4: you're like wow, and.

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Speaker 3: Then like that is it developed?

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Speaker 4: For wow? What happened?

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Speaker 1: It had a pretty serious one eighty and a lot

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Speaker 1: of people probably that wish they would have waited that

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Speaker 1: one out right.

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Speaker 4: You know, I learned I've learned over the years.

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Speaker 6: Don't tweet because you might think something's really obvious and

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Speaker 6: then it turns out like nine time times out of

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Speaker 6: one hundred, it probably is that one time that it's not.

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Speaker 6: You know, then you're on.

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Speaker 4: You know you're on.

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Speaker 6: You're on awful announcing and freezing call takes and all

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Speaker 6: the right and the rest of the time it's it's not

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Speaker 6: worth the tweet.

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Speaker 4: Don't do it.

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Speaker 1: It's true. Matt appreciated as always. Man here, you got

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Speaker 1: it anytime, all right, Matt verd ram our guest on

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