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Speaker 1: How about a happy belated birthday to our next guest,

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Speaker 1: the Pacers head coach. He is Rick Carlisle coach. Good

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Speaker 1: morning to you. How are you.

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Speaker 2: Okay? Uh?

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Speaker 1: The news? Uh, I guess last week we had the

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Speaker 1: news of Monday night with Aaron E. Smith last night

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Speaker 1: Mac McClung. What led to you guys deciding on him?

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Speaker 1: And is he somebody that will be available to you

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Speaker 1: as early as tomorrow night?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? He We had a workout yesterday with with three

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Speaker 2: the position he did. He did a great job in

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Speaker 2: the workout. It's clear that he's in He's in at

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Speaker 2: least at least pretty good shape. I think he was

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Speaker 2: either practicing with the Chicago G League team or getting

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Speaker 2: ready to and uh so he he separated himself uh

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Speaker 2: in the workout yesterday and so uh you know today

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Speaker 2: he'll be he'll be Indiana pacer. Rick.

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Speaker 3: I know you're just getting introduced to like his skill

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Speaker 3: set and him getting introduced to what you all want

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Speaker 3: to do as a team. But for the fan base,

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Speaker 3: he's known as the three time dunk Champ. What stands

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Speaker 3: out to you about his actual basketball skills, says Beyond

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Speaker 3: has been a high flyer.

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Speaker 2: Well, he can score. He's a hard playing guy. You know.

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Speaker 2: For for all the things we did in the workout yesterday,

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Speaker 2: uh you know, he didn't dunk the ball once, So

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Speaker 2: let's get off of the of the dunking thing. Is

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Speaker 2: is kind of the the attraction here. You know, we

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Speaker 2: need a guy that has energy to go hard. Is healthy,

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Speaker 2: I think is healthy is probably the number one thing.

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Speaker 2: And that can play a couple of positions. So you know,

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Speaker 2: he can play point, he can play playoff the ball,

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Speaker 2: and you know he's had some very good A games.

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Speaker 2: Although I think this is true, I believe this is

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Speaker 2: the first be A contract he's signed. I know he's

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Speaker 2: been in he's been on a two way with some

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Speaker 2: but I don't believe he's ever gotten any time or

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Speaker 2: or signed a uniformed player contract veteran player contract ever

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Speaker 2: before this. So it's a big opportunity of big momentar Um.

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Speaker 1: Pacers maths coming up tomorrow night rounds out of road

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Speaker 1: trip for Indiana before they return home. Rick Carlisle with

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Speaker 1: us here on the Payloss Slickers hotline coach. I know

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Speaker 1: you mentioned over the weekend you're still awaiting kind of

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Speaker 1: some imaging on Andrew Nemhard, maybe more of Benedict Matheren.

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Speaker 1: Any updates on those two guys on how long they

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Speaker 1: could be out? No, have you have you ever dealt

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Speaker 1: with anything like this? I mean, it's it's incredible how

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Speaker 1: long the injury list is, particularly this early in the season.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you've obviously coached a long time. Have you

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Speaker 1: ever had to deal with an injury list, particularly in

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Speaker 1: you know, the month of October?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Not, not like this. I mean, you know, we

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Speaker 2: depleted as a team during that and we had to

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Speaker 2: a few of the games at that time. So but

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Speaker 2: this is this is different. And you know, one thing

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Speaker 2: you can you can surmise from this looking at us

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Speaker 2: or did leading to last night they played Dallas last night.

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Speaker 2: We now have eight guys out and both teams played

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Speaker 2: to the very last day of the season. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's it's very possible that you know, playing to playing

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Speaker 2: playing a lot last year and having a short summer.

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Speaker 2: But uh, and you know Ben stepping on a guy's

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Speaker 2: more than you know, certainly more than anything. But it's

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Speaker 2: an interesting coincidence.

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Speaker 3: Again, we have Pacers head coach Rick Carlisle joining us

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Speaker 3: only pay less Lookers hotline. Rick, you called Pascal Siakam

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Speaker 3: a total warrior the other night, and in situations like this,

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Speaker 3: he's always been a leader for this team since joining

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Speaker 3: the franchise a couple of years ago. But how much

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Speaker 3: more do you look towards him's gonna help the group win.

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Speaker 3: A lot of that group might not have played together,

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Speaker 3: they might be young, inexperience, and here's a guy who's

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Speaker 3: obviously been very professional throughout his NBA tenure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no question about it. I mean, his leadership, obviously,

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Speaker 2: ever since he came here. You know, his voice has

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Speaker 2: about a year, about a year and a half, maybe

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Speaker 2: there was a strong willed defiance that you know, we

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Speaker 1: M Carlisle with us here again, Pacers and Mavericks coming

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Speaker 1: up tomorrow, and I say round out a road trip coach.

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Speaker 1: You know when Benetckcathen went down on Saturday night. You know,

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Speaker 1: he was on one of those heaters in the third quarter.

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Speaker 1: But we had talked about a play that really stood

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Speaker 1: Albeit a very small sample size, but what were you

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Speaker 2: He wanted to he wanted to learn. He reiterated that

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Speaker 1: Uh, center clarity, do you have anything more? Through three games?

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Speaker 1: I felt like Tony Bradley gave you some nice minutes

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Speaker 1: sheer numbers. But what have you seen from your center

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Speaker 2: all of in terms of, you know, what, what does

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Speaker 2: You know. The other night, we we started huff at

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Speaker 2: And he did some good things, you know, as as

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have and those things into positives.

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Speaker 3: Rick, tomorrow night, you all face Cooper Flag for the

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Speaker 3: Scott and report on him. What stands out to you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a great player, I mean a great young player.

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Speaker 1: Rick Carlisle again with US here Pacers MAVs coming up

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Speaker 1: tomorrow nights. Coach, I see Tyres Alibert and is traveling

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Speaker 1: it's a slightly different, but you had a couple of

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Speaker 1: within your whatever your two decade plus run of coaching.

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Speaker 1: Did you find those years when you weren't coaching beneficial

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Speaker 1: can you ad all all maybe compare that to what

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Speaker 2: I did, Yeah, And it was always an opportunity to

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Speaker 2: you know, it's a crucible. It's it's there's there's a

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Speaker 1: Well, coach, thank you for the time again, as we said,

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Speaker 1: a happy belated birthday to you from yesterday. Halloween upcoming

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Speaker 1: on the schedule here on Friday. When you think back

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Speaker 1: to your halloween's a child, is there a favorite Rick

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Speaker 1: candy as well. Is there any vivid Halloween memories for you?

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Speaker 2: on Halloween, and but I had not given it that

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Speaker 2: much thought, so I can't say I appreciate the question,

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Speaker 2: but I acknowledge the question.

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Speaker 1: Noted, and the Pacers will be playing Halloween Night back

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Speaker 1: here inside of Gamebridgefield ass Hawks. I've been back to

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Speaker 1: back with Golden State coming up on Saturday. Coaches, always,

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Speaker 1: thank you, appreciate you being flexible at the time change,

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you next week.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, take care