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Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison on vacation. Corbyn, Hello, please, hello, Jake, thank

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Speaker 1: about it, Reggie Miller saying, this is about more when

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Speaker 1: you are a pacer than being a pacer or being

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Speaker 1: Tyre's Halliburton. It's about representing this state in this city,

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Speaker 1: which I love with every single fiber of my body.

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Speaker 1: And that's why that quote is exactly why we love

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Speaker 1: Reggie Miller and exactly why we love Tyre's Halliburton. And

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Speaker 1: that same quote about the representation the pride of where

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Speaker 1: you're from. And it doesn't have to be Indiana University.

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Speaker 1: It can be Purdue, it could be No Notre Dame,

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Speaker 1: it could be Butler, whatever it might be. Gordon Hayward

440
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Speaker 1: comes back to Butler, right. There's a reason for that.

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Speaker 1: It's because we stand true to and loyal to the

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Speaker 1: people of who we are that have that same pillar.

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Speaker 1: And that's why in football is such a great story

444
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Speaker 1: because it means that there is a pride and a

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Speaker 1: push out of the chest for those that are able

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Speaker 1: to say that they too are part of that family.

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Speaker 1: And one of those guys is going to join me next.

448
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Speaker 1: Chris did want to talk about what Indiana is doing

449
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Speaker 1: is a top five program right now in all of

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Speaker 1: college football. Ralph Frief at one o'clock today loaded show

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Speaker 1: for you. Over the course of today, we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk Marion football. At one thirty. Coach Carris is going

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Speaker 1: to join us Joel a Ericson to get us up

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Speaker 1: on the Colts in the two o'clock hour on this

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Speaker 1: humpday Wednesday, Chris did on Next Querying Company on the fan.

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Speaker 1: So that fight song is what you hear when the

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Speaker 1: third ranked team and all of college football takes to

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Speaker 1: the field. It is the highest ranking in school history

459
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Speaker 1: in the ap POL for Indiana after their massive win

460
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Speaker 1: obviously over Oregon on the road. More on the national

461
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Speaker 1: perspective of that coming up later in the show. But

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to a guy that I think,

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Speaker 1: actually just about an hour ago, was able to get

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Speaker 1: the red and white face paint off. He is a

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Speaker 1: guy that played four years of football for Indiana, throwing

466
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Speaker 1: over thirty one hundred yards for the Hoosiers, and I

467
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Speaker 1: know is hyped up about the great start they've gotten

468
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Speaker 1: off to talking about former quarterback Chris did Chris, how

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Speaker 1: are you do we have Chris Corbin Chrissy there, yeah,

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Speaker 1: j hear me? There we go? Yeah all right. So

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Speaker 1: here's the thing, man, you've got to be completely pumped

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Speaker 1: up about this, and so I want to begin simply

473
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Speaker 1: with this, what is it? What is it about this

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Speaker 1: team when you look at it that jumps out at

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Speaker 1: you where you say, that's why they're winning and that's

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Speaker 1: what makes them different. Is there any one thing you

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Speaker 1: can point towards?

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Speaker 6: You know, that's a great question, and I think it's

479
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Speaker 6: a question Indiana fans have been asking themselves really the

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Speaker 6: last year and a half, probably since the for me,

481
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Speaker 6: the UCLA game from last year, and we went out

482
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Speaker 6: there and took it to them when I think we

483
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 6: still didn't know what we had and we beat them soundly.

484
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Speaker 6: And then we went through the season, started ten and zero,

485
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Speaker 6: obviously played Ohio State and struggled, then beat Perdue, played

486
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Speaker 6: Notre Dame of struggles. So that last year was still,

487
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Speaker 6: you know, a complete euphoria for every Indiana fan and

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Speaker 6: Indiana football fan out there.

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Speaker 7: And then we get to.

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Speaker 6: This season and you go through the first three games

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Speaker 6: expected to win, you win them. You start the Big

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Speaker 6: Ten season against Illinois, who nobody thinks we're gonna win

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Speaker 6: outside of you know, the people in Bloomington or a

494
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Speaker 6: die hard Indiana football fans and we just blow their

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Speaker 6: doors off. We beat Iowa, you know, in a very

496
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Speaker 6: tough physical game. And then so we've got a one

497
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Speaker 6: thousand pound guerrilla staring at us in Oregon and still

498
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Speaker 6: I'm still waiting for.

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Speaker 4: That ball to drop and.

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Speaker 6: It just hasn't. And we, you know, and as we

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Speaker 6: I've watched the Oregon game and they do everything right

502
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Speaker 6: and they're so locked in, from the special teams to

503
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Speaker 6: the defense to the offense. I mean, for us to

504
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Speaker 6: be able to run in our kickoff specialist and absolutely

505
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Speaker 6: drill a fifty year eight for fifty eight year field

506
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Speaker 6: though that looked good from eighty in twenty four seconds

507
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Speaker 6: in a two minute drill, and execute it perfectly. I mean,

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Speaker 6: it obviously starts with coach Signetti and the culture that

509
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Speaker 6: he has just permeated through that entire program in town

510
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Speaker 6: and players, and it's it's just there's so many things

511
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Speaker 6: I think you can point to, and they just all

512
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Speaker 6: add up to a team that executes and if they

513
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Speaker 6: make a mistake, they don't blink, they don't care, they

514
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Speaker 6: just move on to the next one. In a perfect

515
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Speaker 6: example is the pick six that you know that Mendoza

516
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Speaker 6: through he came right back. They came right back down

517
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Speaker 6: the field. So I don't know if they answer your questions,

518
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 6: but it's so exciting and it's just so unbelievable now

519
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 6: where it feels like we're I think, you know, we

520
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 6: got some respect last year, but I think now it's

521
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 6: more so. People are, you know, the kirk Kirkstrees of

522
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 6: the world. Even Nick Saban. I'm real curious to see

523
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Speaker 6: what he says this week on Game Day about us.

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Speaker 6: But it's just you can't argue with the success now

525
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Speaker 6: in being six.

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Speaker 4: To zero and winning that organ.

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Speaker 1: You know, Chris to me, Chris Ditto is our guest.

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Speaker 1: He's on the Java House peeling poor guest line. When

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Speaker 1: you look at this season and you know, we don't

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Speaker 1: know where it goes from here, right, but let's just

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Speaker 1: assume for the sake of argument, that Indiana, you know,

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Speaker 1: holds serve. I mean, they just overcame a massive challenge

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Speaker 1: on the road. I think it is possible, and I

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Speaker 1: want you to tell me, as somebody who has played

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Speaker 1: in the Big Ten, whether this is there's any accuracy

536
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Speaker 1: to this. I think it's possible. We may look back

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Speaker 1: if this becomes a special year and say that a

538
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: real not turning point for them, but important part for

539
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Speaker 1: them was the win at Iowa, because you go into Iowa,

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Speaker 1: that's a tough place to play. They're always well coached,

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Speaker 1: and and yet that game was they were going to

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Speaker 1: lose that game, they snatched victory from the jaws of

543
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Speaker 1: defeat and the resolve that was shown in that environment,

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Speaker 1: that to me was kind of the wake up call

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Speaker 1: that other Indiana teams would not have won.

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Speaker 2: What say you, yeah, I.

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Speaker 6: Agree And was talking to friends about that particular game

548
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 6: in how many times in the last twenty twenty five

549
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Speaker 6: years have we watched Indiana play as three to three

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Speaker 6: and a half quarter game against a really good opponent

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Speaker 6: where it's either on the road or even at Bloomington,

552
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Speaker 6: and it comes down to, okay, we've got to make

553
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 6: a field goal and then we miss it, and then

554
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 6: we turn around on defense and we give up a

555
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Speaker 6: sixty yard touchdown to lose the game. That where that

556
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 6: scenario is exactly slipped and it's us losing the game

557
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 6: where coach Signetti has created this resolve where again we're

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Speaker 6: I think when you play that well and you are

559
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 6: so locked in, those mistakes just kind of fall your way.

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Speaker 6: Just like last year, everything that we needed to go

561
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Speaker 6: right went our way.

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Speaker 7: It seemed this year, the.

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Speaker 6: Iowa game, in the last you know, even two years

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Speaker 6: ago when it was coach Allen, before that when it

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Speaker 6: was coach Wilson, it just those types of games. We

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Speaker 6: would play well for three three and a half quarters

567
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Speaker 6: and then figured out a way to lose a game.

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Speaker 7: That one.

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Speaker 6: We're like, oh my gosh, we just booked Iowa straight

570
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Speaker 6: in the eye one in Iowa City, which we all

571
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Speaker 6: know is a very very difficult place to play. They

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Speaker 6: you know, as many times as they blitzed, as many

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Speaker 6: times as Mendoza got hit right as he was throwing

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Speaker 6: the ball and the touchdown paths he got hit riters

575
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Speaker 6: who's throwing it, he put it where it needed to

576
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Speaker 6: be the rest. So I think that's a great point

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Speaker 6: where now they well, we will all expect them to

578
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Speaker 6: go and win those types of games. And you know,

579
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Speaker 6: we've got two home games. Two home games coming up

580
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Speaker 6: Michigan State, UCLA and then Maryland's not going to be

581
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Speaker 6: an easy game. Penn State, that's going to be crazy.

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Speaker 6: There's a group of my friends and I were going

583
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Speaker 6: to Happy Valley for that game. So you know, I'm

584
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Speaker 6: sure you know this. The athletic director at penn State

585
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 6: played football in Indiana. We have he's a friend of mine.

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Speaker 6: So it's in the whole Kurt Signetti ties to Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 6: So there's so many storylines, and I know you talked

588
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Speaker 6: about it this week, and it's just so exciting to

589
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 6: see Indiana football to be the center of the college

590
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Speaker 6: football universe right now, because it really is. Is it not?

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Speaker 1: No, that's they are the They're the biggest story in

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Speaker 1: college football right right now nationwide. Write no question now.

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Speaker 1: So Chris, let me ask you this, Kurt Signetti. I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know we can go into his confidence, his bravada,

595
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Speaker 1: et cetera. But when you look at this team and

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Speaker 1: the way that they played this year, if you had

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Speaker 1: to pinpoint, which of the two things would you say

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Speaker 1: is more accurate about Indiana. A They are coached in

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Speaker 1: such a way that they know exactly where to be

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Speaker 1: at all times, kind of like a Brad Stevens Butler

601
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Speaker 1: basketball team, where like they just know where the loose

602
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: balls going. Or is it be that this team has

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Speaker 1: more individual with each player's speed than we've seen in

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Speaker 1: the past, and thus as a result, they're able to

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Speaker 1: fly to places before the opposition, like for example, with Oregon,

606
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Speaker 1: they out Oregon Oregon with their speed. Is it in

607
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: fact preparation or is it a different level of athleticism

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Speaker 1: that is different with Indiana.

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Speaker 7: That's A.

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Speaker 6: That's a great question, and I would have to in

611
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Speaker 6: my opinion, A. I think that. And that's why I

612
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 6: think it will sustain itself because I think coach Signetti

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Speaker 6: on down from you know, our offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator

614
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 6: and through the position coaches, they have that team so

615
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 6: well prepared, they scout so well, they appear to have

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00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 6: a game plan that is ready for each individual team

617
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 6: that they play. And while we have great athletes and

618
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Speaker 6: we've got obviously what looks like they you know, takes

619
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Speaker 6: the rat for example, I don't think he's a first

620
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Speaker 6: round draft choice wide receiver. He's probably maybe a third,

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Speaker 6: four or fifth rounder. He's not he's not the fastest

622
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Speaker 6: guy on the field, but he runs probably you could

623
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Speaker 6: argue runs the best routes in the country because I

624
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 6: know his nickname is waffle House, and it's true. Every

625
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 6: time you watch him runner out, he gets open and

626
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 6: Mendoza knows where to put it, just like Rooke did

627
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Speaker 6: last year. Take agent Fisher, he's not gonna be he's

628
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 6: not gonna vow you at the combine. But the guy

629
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Speaker 6: and all three of those linebackers from Elijah to I

630
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 6: can't think of the other two fellows names, but all

631
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Speaker 6: three of our linebackers, they're always in the right place

632
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 6: at the right time and they make tackles. Fundamentally, our

633
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 6: secondary is in the right place at the right time.

634
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 6: Defensive line there seem to be you know, first play

635
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 6: the game against Oregon, bam sack. That was just a

636
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 6: four guys rushing they put They kind of set the

637
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 6: tone right there. We didn't blitz anybody. Four guys got

638
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 6: to the quarterback sack. So, in my opinion, which I

639
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 6: think is is will give us a longer upside and

640
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 6: this will sustain itself longer as being more prepared because

641
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 6: you're gonna have great athletes come and go. Like Fernando Mendoza.

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Speaker 6: He could be the number one pick. He probably will

643
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 6: be a top five pick at worst. That guy's a

644
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 6: bit of a unicorn. He's going to be tough to

645
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 6: replace next year. Although his brother looks pretty darn good. Too,

646
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Speaker 6: so while you can, if you can sprinkle in some of.

647
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Speaker 4: Those first rounders and.

648
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 6: Have a boatload of just nasty, tough nosed Aiden Fisher's

649
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 6: college football players that love playing football, always in the

650
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 6: right place at the right time, coached up, very coachable leaders,

651
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 6: and I mean they've flipped Indiana football in the culture

652
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 6: what seems to be overnight, and we're lucky. I just

653
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 6: feel so lucky to be able to continue to be

654
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 6: on this ride and hope it continues and we keep

655
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 6: all the vultures of other schools away, you know.

656
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: The I mean defensively, You're right, Aiden Fisher has been

657
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: a core there, right, But like Isaiah Jones, Kelln Wyatt,

658
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: Hardy More, I mean, they got a lot of guys

659
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: that are making plays for them, right, Chris, I'm curious

660
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: of this, and I want our listeners to get an

661
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: idea or a feel for what this means. And I'm

662
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: going to lead the witness here with a presumptive answer.

663
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: You may not go with the answer I'm thinking here,

664
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: but ten years ago, hypothetically, you're getting on an airplane,

665
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: you're strapping in guys sitting next to you. He goes, all,

666
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: you're a bigger guy. You go, yeah, you know, I

667
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: played football? Oh really, where'd you play? Played in Indiana?

668
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: You know at that time there was a different You're

669
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: a division on college football player's pretty cool, right, and

670
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: then you're like Indiana. I'm not saying it had no

671
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: disrespect to our era, right right, but is there a

672
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: different ooph? Now do you push your chest out a

673
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: little more? And do your other teammates push the chest

674
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: out a little more? Of you know what? Damn straight,

675
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: I played Indiana, you know what I mean?

676
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 6: You know, it's such a funny question and ironic question

677
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 6: because I'm I'm in Georgia right now, down here for

678
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 6: a little bit of work and playing a little bit

679
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 6: of golf, and and I've come to Georgia once or

680
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 6: twice a year for the last ten years. And I

681
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 6: would never wear EYEU stuff, maybe a hat, especially in

682
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 6: the fall, because we all know it's Georgia, it's out,

683
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,479
Speaker 6: it's sec country. But every where I go down here,

684
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 6: I have something I you on right now, and every

685
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 6: person or in just about every restaurant or before out,

686
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 6: people will comment, oh my gosh, Indiana, Indiana, you guys

687
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 6: are good.

688
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 7: You guys are good.

689
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 6: You guys are for real. So yes, yes, absolutely, I

690
00:37:54,840 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 6: am so proud of what the program is doing.

691
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 7: Don't get me wrong.

692
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 6: Ten years ago, I still loved Indiana football. We've had

693
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 6: season tickets for since nineteen ninety six. We go, we've

694
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Speaker 6: been going to the games. Sometimes we stay out in

695
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 6: the tailgates and we don't go into the game. Now,

696
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 6: you know, ten years ago we couldn't give away tickets.

697
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 6: It was people would stay in the tailgate. Now, as

698
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 6: you know, and we'll see sold out games. People are

699
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 6: begging for tickets. So yes, I think you'll see more

700
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 6: and more colors Indiana being worn and being in Georgia,

701
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 6: especially where we all know, you know what the Georgia

702
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 6: Bulldogs do, what Alabama does, what the SEC is like,

703
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 6: they know, they know it, they love and they know

704
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,479
Speaker 6: Kurt Signetti. And two years ago this wouldn't we would

705
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 6: not have been on anyone's radar or map. So the

706
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 6: only other problem is when if I'm ten years ago,

707
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 6: I'm getting into the plane and somebody's.

708
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 4: Like, wow, you're a big guy.

709
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 6: They say, well did you play tackle or tight end?

710
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 6: And I have to unfortunately put my head down and say,

711
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 6: actually played quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, you know, I mean, come on, we're not

713
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: thirty anymore, right, I mean, let's be real, that's right. Okay. Lastly,

714
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Speaker 1: Chris Kurt Signetti, is he long term in Indiana?

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Speaker 7: I think so? I mean I do.

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Speaker 6: I believe it. And if you go back, and you know,

717
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Speaker 6: I've been fortunate.

718
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 4: I met him this year.

719
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Speaker 7: I met his wife.

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Speaker 6: They seem like they are in love with Bloomington. Missus.

721
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Speaker 6: Signetti just seemed over the moon about the city of Bloomington,

722
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 6: the town, how they've embraced her, how they've embraced him.

723
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Speaker 6: You know, I think we could lose a defensive or

724
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 6: off our coordinators possibly this off season. But man, they

725
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 6: seem like they're so gelled together as a staff that

726
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 6: it's going to take I think, a special opportunity for

727
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 6: a coordinator to leave. But in my heart of hearts,

728
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Speaker 6: I believe Coach Signetti is going to remain in Bloomington

729
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Speaker 6: for the next as long as he wants to, hopefully

730
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 6: it's ten years. And then he who you know, he's

731
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Speaker 6: got a protege that he wants to give the job to.

732
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Speaker 6: And we're building a statue and we're adding on twenty

733
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 6: thousand seats and the rest is history, and we've got

734
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Speaker 6: you know, and we're we are one of those football

735
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 6: powers with the new nil. You know you and I

736
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Speaker 6: know you've talked about this. You've got to give Scott

737
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Speaker 6: Dolson a ton of credit for finding for signetty and

738
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Speaker 6: then giving him the resources to run a program that

739
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 6: can't succeed at a top ten or top five level.

740
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Speaker 6: And it's looking like we're going to be potentially hosting

741
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Speaker 6: a playoff game. Could you imagine Alabama Georgia coming to

742
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 6: Bloomington November right now?

743
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Speaker 1: I think it's the last projection I saw was was Georgia.

744
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 1: You let those Bulldog fans know, give him a map,

745
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: give them a map to blooming Yeah.

746
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Speaker 4: It's still funny. So down here in Georgia.

747
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Speaker 6: I've got some friends they love Georgia football, and they're like, oh, man,

748
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 6: I don't go to football games if it's less than

749
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Speaker 6: fifty degrees. I mean, I just don't know what that

750
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 6: would be like.

751
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: Oh well, I'm not kidding.

752
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: I know, get him some gloves, man, get him some gloves.

753
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: But a lot to be done between now and then, Chris,

754
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 1: will you get back to the golf. I appreciate the time.

755
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you again over the course of the

756
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: season and see what happens. Of course this Saturday.

757
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 6: Love to thank you so much. I appreciate love, thanks

758
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 6: for talking to you.

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Speaker 1: Football appreciate it. Chris Dido joining us on the program.

760
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: We'll take a quick recess and come back. And I

761
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 1: want to piggyback off of something he said about Kurt Signetti.

762
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: And then as I mentioned, Ralph Freef coming up as

763
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: well as coach Karras from Marion still Joel Erickson as well.

764
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: A lot to unpack here day Wednesday on the fan.

765
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: I almost feel like with Corbin running the commands while

766
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison is on vacation. And yesterday we found out

767
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 1: that Corbin Lingenfelter is a fan of like Dean Martin,

768
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: Frank Sinatra, you know that like rat pack style music.

769
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 1: But then what did you say is your other music

770
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: of choice? Corbyn nineties country? See I was gonna say

771
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: that I should just hand it over to you to

772
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: edumacate me a little bit about nineties country, although I

773
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: mean I've got a east An idea of nineties country.

774
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: But and just have you bounce back every segment with

775
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: your with Corbyn's music and see how long we can

776
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: entertain the masses and then educate myself on nineties music,

777
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: because I am the first to admit that I'm a

778
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: nineties poser when it or a country poser when it

779
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: comes to country music. And that's one of the things,

780
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: by the way, that I was thinking about as Chris

781
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: Dido was talking about Kurt Signetti. When it comes to

782
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: like confidence in bravada and aura, from a coaching standpoint,

783
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: it's difficult. That's one of those things that you can't imposter.

784
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: I think players can sniff out fake confidence, and they

785
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: can sniff out fake tough guy, and it just doesn't

786
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: work unless it's legitimate and rooted in authenticity. And I

787
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: think you get that with Signetti. I just think the

788
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: way he comes off the vada he has, it's, you know,

789
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: at first, when he came to Indiana, I think it

790
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: was just almost like is this guy? Is this a

791
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: like an snl skit? But then I think players figured

792
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: out what he's asking and telling me to do is

793
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 1: working and we're winning, and I'm gonna buy into this guy.

794
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna buy I'm buying what he's selling and it's worked,

795
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: and there is a little bit of me that wonders

796
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: like once there might be like some sort of an

797
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: unveil of that, does it then completely crumble? But I

798
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: don't think so. I think it's long haul stuff. I do,

799
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: I really do. Speaking of long haul stuff, one of

800
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: the long haul greats is back. I'll let you know

801
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: about that, and there was an interesting perspective new pacer

802
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: that we have answer on. I'll tell you about both.

803
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: Next we'll get some of that news just in terms

804
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: of overall some of the injuries that we're seeing around

805
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: the NFL. With Ralph Riefkin and join. It's just about

806
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: ten minutes from now. If you're just joining the program.

807
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: My name is Jay Querry Corbyn Lingenfelter, filling in for

808
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison. We call this show Query and Company. Here

809
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven to five

810
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: the Fan. The Colts have a new quarterback, not necessarily

811
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: in terms of one that you're gonna see under center,

812
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: but Brent Rippen is now their number three quarterback now,

813
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: the nephew to Mark Rippon, who was most recently as

814
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengal, was decided upon by the Colts after they

815
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: worked out four different quarterbacks yesterday. Riley Leonard will stay

816
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,720
Speaker 1: as or move up I should say, into the spot

817
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: now as the backup, and so Leonard will be the

818
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: backup to Daniel Jones. Rippin will be the emergency or

819
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 1: number three quarterback. Anthony Richardson went on IR. That means

820
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 1: minimum four games missed for or Anthony Richardson. So there

821
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: is that going on with the Colts. We'll talk to

822
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: Joel a ericson coming up two o'clock hour of the

823
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: show today. Also the Pacers. It's interesting because I was

824
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: walking into the game against San Antonio on Monday night,

825
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: and as I was walking across Delaware, crossing the Delaware,

826
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: if you will, I was pulling at George Washington crossing

827
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: the Delaware, and guy walks up to me and says, hey, Jake,

828
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: what are you hearing in regards to and he throws

829
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: a player out to me, and I'm like, wait, what

830
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: I have not heard? And frankly, I don't know that

831
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: I even realized said player was available as a free agent.

832
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, he says, what do you hearing about Russell

833
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: Westbrook and rumors that the Pacers might kick the tires

834
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: there just because of the fact that they you know,

835
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: obviously Cameron Pain coming in. I don't know that I

836
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: would list Westbrook as a point guard, but you know

837
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: a guy that is a combo player that could have

838
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: been somebody to facilitate a couple of voids for Indiana.

839
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: Don't need to worry about any of it because he

840
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: is now a member of the Sacramento Kings. So Russell

841
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: Westbrook signing with Sacramento that news coming out today. Here's

842
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: the biggest news of the day before we bring in

843
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: Ralph Reef Corbin. I would like to know your favorite

844
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: pop tart.

845
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 2: The sugar cookie one that to come out of Christmas talks.

846
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: Okay, So, and I didn't know this. Kele Nova is

847
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: the company that makes pop tarts. I just assumed pop

848
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: tarts were made by Kellogg's. Maybe this is like an

849
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: auxiliary thereof I don't know. They announced today and it's

850
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: I did not realize that this one's been gone for

851
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: a while. The chocolate chip cookie dough pop tart is returning. Okay,

852
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: do we have the breaking news sounder? By chance? This

853
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: just in Kelenova, the company behind the pop tarts, announcing

854
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: that chocolate chip cookie dough pop tarts are returning to

855
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: shelves coming up here in a couple of weeks. They

856
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: have not been seen since twenty twenty two. These are

857
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: like the Shamrock shakes, the mcribs of pop tarts that

858
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: would appear now. I'm curious of this though, and maybe

859
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: Ralph Reef when we have them on, can expand upon

860
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: whether or not. And I'm not asking him to endorse,

861
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: not endorse whatever else. I don't want to put in

862
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: a bad position here, but pop tarts now, I don't

863
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: know the nutritional value of pop tarts. I know that

864
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: the box says that they got all kinds of vitamins

865
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but they're probably like Flintstone vitamins.

866
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: Are they really packed with vitamins? Right? And they've they've

867
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: gotten a little bit creative in some of their flavoring.

868
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: They've they've done these crossovers with cereals, like there's an

869
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: apple Jack pop tart now, and I like Applejacks and

870
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: I like pop tarts. I don't necessarily like the Applejack

871
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: pop tart, right, but they now are making pop tarts protein. Now, Corbyn,

872
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 1: you're making a face right now, like you're not down

873
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: with the pop tarts protein.

874
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 2: I like like protein pancakes. But when I'm eating a

875
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: pop tart, the last thing I'm thinking about is how

876
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 2: nutritional and protein?

877
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're just like you're already kind of

878
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: making the punt, aren't you? At that point now here,

879
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,959
Speaker 1: let me give you the flavors for the pop tart

880
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 1: protein slamming strawberry. That's the classic tart strawberry. I'm reading

881
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: this from WTHR. By the way, the classic tart strawberry

882
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: filling with frosting and rainbow sprinkles, but apparently with a

883
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: little bit more protein. I don't know, uh, boosting brown sugar,

884
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 1: cinnamon again, the gooey brown sugar, cinnamon and a golden

885
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 1: brown coat, okay, and bumping blueberry. So now all they've

886
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: done is they've added They're not just adding protein, they're

887
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: adding adjectives, because the brown sugar and cinnamon is now

888
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: the boosting brown sugar and cinnamon with the protein mix,

889
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: the blueberry the bumpin blueberry, and then strawberry is the

890
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: slam and strawberry I think I mentioned earlier, and I

891
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: was stunned by I mean, I was stunned by the

892
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: number of people that disagreed with me on this. I

893
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: thought I was the commonplace here when I mentioned a

894
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: while ago the last time that we talked pop tarts

895
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: on the program, that I eat them without toasting them,

896
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: and I thought that was the norm. Like when I'm

897
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: on the road and I go to a gas station

898
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: or whatever else and I need a snack, I grab

899
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: the pop tarts and I break off the side. I

900
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: eat that first, and then I just go with it

901
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: without toasting it. I don't know that. I've two things

902
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: about me that are probably unique. Number One, I don't

903
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: know that, and I've said this before. I know this

904
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: for a fact. I've never cooked a meal. I've never

905
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: like sat down and cooked a meal. But number two,

906
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: I've never toasted a pop tart. I just assumed that

907
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 1: they were Like I thought the toasting part was a myth.

908
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know that people actually do that. But now

909
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: when you do so, and I don't know, is protein

910
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: toastable protein powder? Can you toast protein powder? With the

911
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: new protein pop tarts? See, these are the things that

912
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: keep me awake at night at three forty eight in

913
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: the morning, when I'm staring at the ceiling and I

914
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: think about it. Also, I think about different injuries that

915
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: are taking place in sports, and I think to myself,

916
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: who would know the answer as to the timetable on that,

917
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: which is why we go to the Java House, Peel

918
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: and poor guest line where we find Ralph Reef. Ralphreef

919
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: dot com is the website for Reef Executive Performance Solutions,

920
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: a man that is synonymous with athletic training and has

921
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: been kind enough to lend us his expertise from time

922
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: to time on this program.

923
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 4: Ralph, how are you hey, I'm doing very well. Jake

924
00:50:53,960 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 4: and pop Tarts? I would estimate that crossed the NCAA

925
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 4: Division I Athletic departments nutrition stations, I would say that

926
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 4: nine out of ten have pop Tarts available?

927
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 2: Really is it?

928
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

929
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: So the protein pop Tarts?

930
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 4: Is this legit well protein if they're boosting the protein

931
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 4: typical pop tarts if I went to the store right

932
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 4: now on bottom, they probably have about four or five

933
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 4: grams of protein. But in sports nutrition dietitians really like

934
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 4: them for the pre activity carbohydrate load. Very high in carbohydrates.

935
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, Now let me ask you how does

936
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: that mean? Necessarily that? Like when I'm laying around in

937
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: some rainy, thirty five degree spitting cold rain, in late

938
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 1: November college football Saturday, and I eat six pop tarts.

939
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: That's not necessarily the carbohydrate boost I need in that moment, right, No.

940
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 4: That would be contraindicator. Well you'd be better off getting

941
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 4: a kin of spam, and.

942
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 1: Well, well we know that that's also versatile, right, different

943
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: ways in which I can enjoy it. Okay, I want

944
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: to begin with this Ralph. You know the situation with

945
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: and again I want to make very clear I'll say

946
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: it for Ralph on his behalf here some of the

947
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 1: injuries we're talking about, Ralph is not the trainer specifically

948
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: dealing with said player or injury, but more of an overview.

949
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: And when I look at Shavari's mooney Ward is his

950
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: nickname with the Colts, and the fact that he had

951
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: this freak incident that took place where he got a

952
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: concussion in the pregame against Arizona. Ralph, but he's coming

953
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 1: off of another recent concussion. Then I became curious, when

954
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 1: you have a concussion, is there a window of time

955
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: in which you might be more susceptible to one than

956
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: you otherwise? Would be.

957
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 4: Great question, and a standard in sports medicine amongst the

958
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 4: providers is that there's no better prediction for injury than

959
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 4: previous injury, and so someone who's had a sprained ankle

960
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 4: is more susceptible to another sprained ankle. Same thing with

961
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 4: concussion and mild traumatic brain injury as it's referred to

962
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 4: more commonly today. And but those concussions, the accumulation effect

963
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 4: is very, very concerning with in today's medical environment. So yes,

964
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 4: there's there is an accumulative effect that has to be

965
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 4: dealt with in the discussions with everybody involved, all the stakeholders.

966
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: Okay, And then with that, you know, I guess the

967
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: susceptability is one thing. I guess that the way to

968
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: parly that rauph my question would be this, and that is,

969
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 1: and maybe it's a different person to person. Do are

970
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: concussions the kind of injury that can compound? In other words,

971
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: if you have had one in the past, is it

972
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: possible that player a with a might let's say, what

973
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: would be considered And I'm not saying any brain injury

974
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: is minor, Okay, but a mild concussion could that be

975
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: a more severe concern for someone, even if it's been

976
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: a long time since they've had one before than somebody

977
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: that by all account it is their first experience with it.

978
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 4: Well, you hit a key point, Jake. And where this

979
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 4: becomes somewhat complex is the amount of time between concussions.

980
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 4: And so with this player, he had a concussion that

981
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 4: was on the injury report and I believe missed game

982
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 4: number two, week two after concussion reported in game one,

983
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 4: and so what's that been six weeks ago? Yeah, five

984
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 4: weeks ago, and so so you know we're looking at

985
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 4: a same season, same half of the season. There's the

986
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 4: standards that we go by in the medical field for

987
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 4: concussions is really set by a global concussion Consensus panel.

988
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,919
Speaker 4: This was the last one was done in twenty twenty three.

989
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 4: It's referred to the Amsterdam Consensus and had about fifty

990
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 4: people who are involved in that program. It takes three

991
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 4: to five years to pull all the information together. That's

992
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 4: why they're not annual consensus reports. And in that consensus

993
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 4: report on the management of concussions is where the NFL

994
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 4: protocol came from. This five step NFL protocol came out

995
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 4: of the Amsterdam Consensus Convention in twenty twenty three. In

996
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 4: that consensus statement, there was no mention of recurrent or

997
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 4: a timeframe of aggregate kind of symptoms or are you

998
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 4: more susceptible one month, two months, twelve months post initial concussion.

999
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 4: So that has not been addressed because this is an

1000
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 4: extremely difficult injury to diagnose and predict, and so what

1001
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 4: is the standard? And I'm sure what they are doing

1002
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 4: within the colts organization is that they are very much

1003
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 4: front and center. A priority is the fact that hey,

1004
00:56:55,080 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 4: five weeks ago, this gentleman had a concussion diagnosed with it.

1005
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 4: I have no idea of what his symptoms were, right,

1006
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 4: but he went through the protocol fairly quickly to return

1007
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 4: in a very short period of time. But that in

1008
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 4: itself is not a predictor of this time. And that

1009
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 4: goes to your question. So and when you have these

1010
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 4: close together, this is where I refer to him as

1011
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 4: the stakeholders. The athlete has a voice in this, the

1012
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 4: independent neuropsychologist, everybody in between has a sort of comment

1013
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 4: to be made relative to this. This is it's hard

1014
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 4: to measure, and because it's not like a fracture of

1015
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 4: a finger where you look at the X ray and

1016
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 4: in three weeks we ct ray again and the fracture

1017
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 4: is healing. And we know that we don't know how

1018
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 4: to do that with brain injury.

1019
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: Ralphrief is my guest. He is on the Java House

1020
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: Pielmport guest line. We're talking about some of the injuries,

1021
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: including right now concussions within the NFL in general. Ralph,

1022
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: if there was if you were to pick and maybe

1023
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: concussions is the answer here. Okay, if you were to

1024
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: take say one hundred athletes, all of which have been

1025
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: diagnosed with the same injury of one another, which injury

1026
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: is the one that would be the most complex and

1027
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: could have the greatest variety amongst the one hundred different

1028
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: athletes in terms of recovery, time, treatment process, et cetera.

1029
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: Is there a specific injury that is the hardest to

1030
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: blanket statement?

1031
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 4: Well, Jake, that's a great question, and there are a

1032
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 4: couple that fall into that category. And these injuries fall

1033
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 4: into the category because they are difficult to diagnose, meaning

1034
00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 4: imagery doesn't show you exactly what's going on. You have

1035
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 4: to rely upon the injured person's feedback on how something

1036
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 4: feels or how they test on a particular test. And so, yes,

1037
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 4: concussion is very high in the really tough to diagnose

1038
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 4: and to give a timetable to high ankle sprains is

1039
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 4: another one fools us all the time. Is it a

1040
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 4: entry to the inside of the ankle the deltoid ligament.

1041
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 4: Is it an injury to the outside, Is it a

1042
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 4: Is it just a bad lateral ankle sprain. High ankle

1043
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 4: sprains are tough to diagnose because it takes a little

1044
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 4: while for it to reveal itself. So the initial pain,

1045
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 4: the initial swelling might be truly right around the ankle bones.

1046
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 4: But then as as maybe three, four, five, six days

1047
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 4: go past, now the pain is higher into the lower leg,

1048
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 4: and so those are really hard. Another one that's not

1049
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 4: mainstream by any reasons, but it's thoracic outlet syndrome. And

1050
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 4: this is where somebody might complain of neck pain. My

1051
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 4: shoulder hurts all the time, the back of my shoulder.

1052
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 4: Sometimes my elbow feels like it's numb. And this happens

1053
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 4: in sport a lot, particularly contact hockey, rugby football, where

1054
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 4: you have the point of contact on the shoulder and

1055
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 4: the side of the neck, and sometimes we get fooled

1056
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 4: by this. Thoracic outlet syndrome happens in tennis, happens in swimming,

1057
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 4: and unless you are an experienced practitioner. These things are

1058
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 4: missed all the time.

1059
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: Is there an injury, Ralph, that is the that has

1060
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: the most uniform treatment? In other words, when you see it,

1061
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: you go, Yep, I'm pretty certain the timeframe is this.

1062
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure we need to do this because this

1063
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: one seems that I've seen it a hundred and it

1064
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: seems to have the most consistency from one patient to

1065
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: the next.

1066
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll take a lateral ankle sprain every day. I mean,

1067
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 4: there's three ligaments on the side of the ankle. You

1068
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 4: get an X ray, make sure you don't have a fracture,

1069
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 4: and you just the protocol. You just go. And what

1070
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 4: I love about them, you can treat those things twenty

1071
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Speaker 4: four hours a day. You can milk the fluid out

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Speaker 4: of the ankle, you can get their range of motion back.

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Speaker 4: They're very predictable, they're very easy to diagnose, and they

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Speaker 4: respond to all the tricks of the trade. And so

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Speaker 4: I'd take a lateral ankle sprain all day, every day.

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Speaker 1: And as we know from my own medical expertise on

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Speaker 1: this show, Ralph, I've mentioned before, we all have four

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Speaker 1: ankles right, no, right, one on each side on each foot.

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Speaker 1: I realize there's two. Okay, Anthony richards and Ralph rief

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Speaker 1: is my guest Jaba house peeling poor guest line Anthony

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Speaker 1: Richards in in a freak accident. What we know is

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Speaker 1: that it's listed as an orbital fracture. Now, Ralph, I'm

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01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: smart enough to know this, and that is that you

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Speaker 1: have the the orbital bone around your eye. Okay. But

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Speaker 1: when I look at it and feel free, you know,

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Speaker 1: I can, I hate to say this way, I can

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Speaker 1: look at a skull and realize how it works. Right,

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01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 1: But like in my case, I have a very large

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Speaker 1: bone on my forehead above my eye. I then have

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Speaker 1: obviously the bone that goes just below it. Does orbital

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Speaker 1: mean any area of that or is it specific to

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Speaker 1: meaning top and or bottom?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Think of it this way, that it's a circle,

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Speaker 4: and the orbital bone is that complete circle.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So it can be anywhere on there.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it can be anywhere on there. And then within

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Speaker 4: that there is the floor of the eye socket that

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Speaker 4: there's a bone there as well. And yeah, I have

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Speaker 4: a lot of questions about this particular injury, not because

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Speaker 4: of the player and so forth, but the mechanism of injury.

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Speaker 4: You know, being a snap back from some type of

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Speaker 4: stretching cord. And I don't know if it had a

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Speaker 4: handle on it, if it didn't have a handle, if

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Speaker 4: it snapped, or if it slipped out of his hands

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Speaker 4: or off of his foot or you know, there's there's

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Speaker 4: a lot of questions there. And then where did it hit.

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Speaker 8: Did it hit.

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Speaker 4: Directly to the bone and create a true fracture, and

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Speaker 4: and uh, there's the the ophthalmic blood flow ophthalmic artery

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Speaker 4: that you know when somebody gets a boxer gets punched

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Speaker 4: in the eye and they come out and they're just

1112
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Speaker 4: cruely swollen big time. That's uh, you know, the blood

1113
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Speaker 4: flow around it. The orbital artery or the ophthalmic artery

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Speaker 4: is usually sheared off and it just creates a lot

1115
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Speaker 4: of bleeding inside and there's not a lot of space

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Speaker 4: work to go. And so that's one of the issues

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Speaker 4: with an ophthalmic injury is there's just not a lot

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Speaker 4: of space for fluid to sort of release itself. Like

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Speaker 4: a lateral ankle sprain. Fluid can go down to the toes,

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Speaker 4: it can go all the way up into the calf,

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Speaker 4: but there in the eye it's sort of stuck within

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Speaker 4: that cavity, and so a minor injury can become major

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Speaker 4: symptoms of blurring of vision due to the fluid. There's

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Speaker 4: just a lot of different scenarios with this, But for

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Speaker 4: them to put him on a four week ie AUR

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Speaker 4: doesn't surprise me, just from a standpoint of management of

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Speaker 4: that fracture. Time to get the swelling down, but it

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Speaker 4: shouldn't affect anything else. He should be able to go

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Speaker 4: to meetings, should be able to drive, all of those

1130
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Speaker 4: kinds of life. Things just can't take a can't take

1131
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Speaker 4: a hit, and you need to stay somewhat upright. You

1132
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Speaker 4: don't want to lay flat all day long and allow

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Speaker 4: the fluid to sit there. So movement is actually good

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Speaker 4: for it.

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Speaker 1: So based on the precedent of other situations, there would

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Speaker 1: be no reason to believe that this would impair beyond

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Speaker 1: the time period of repair that it would impact his vision.

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Speaker 4: Correct, That would be my belief, absolutely right. There should

1139
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Speaker 4: be no impairment to vision long term.

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Speaker 1: Okay it is, you know, Ralph Fitz. All of it's

1141
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Speaker 1: fascinating because and I would imagine and you tell me

1142
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Speaker 1: if I'm wrong here, But even in your vast experience

1143
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 1: as a trainer, I mean everything from organizing you know,

1144
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: the training for the Olympic Games, to you know, all

1145
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Speaker 1: of the different things that you've done in the different

1146
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 1: universities you've worked with in NCAA and everything else. My

1147
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: guess would be, and you tell me if I'm wrong that,

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Speaker 1: even to this day, there are things that pop up

1149
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: where you say to yourself that actually is a new

1150
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 1: wrinkle that I had never seen before.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, we're we're challenged with that all the time, and

1152
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 4: and and that it might be. Let's take the high

1153
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 4: ankle sprain. We think it's a high ankle sprain. All

1154
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,919
Speaker 4: of a sudden, they have bleeding in their lower leg

1155
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 4: in that front compartment where you get shin splints, and

1156
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 4: that becomes an emergency situation because blood collects in that

1157
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 4: anterior compartment. And I'm sure there's listeners out there who

1158
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 4: know someone who's had anterior compartment surgery to relieve that

1159
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 4: the fluid pressure in there so and ts you know

1160
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Speaker 4: throughst out that syndrome. Ten years ago, we didn't know

1161
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Speaker 4: what that was. And and uh, you know, the medical

1162
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 4: community become become a little smarter all the time, and

1163
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 4: we figure things out, and so yeah, there's there are

1164
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 4: new wrinkles constantly, and you're sort of like pregame Colt,

1165
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Speaker 4: let's go, nothing wrong can happen here. And when I

1166
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Speaker 4: was working Butler Athletics football, we were out at Drake

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Speaker 4: for a football game and I actually got injured during

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Speaker 4: pregame warm up where an athlete ran backwards and ran

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Speaker 4: right into my elbow and jam my thumb against my

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01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 4: hip and I tore a ligament in my thumb. So

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Speaker 4: crazy things happen. And that's an active space before a

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Speaker 4: football game, and it's fortunate more things don't happen, and of.

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Speaker 1: Course you know sometimes they can happen when you least expected.

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Speaker 1: David Bell, the former Warren Central produced star, yesterday announcing

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Speaker 1: his retirement, saying that he had an injury that blindsided

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Speaker 1: him that you know he could not run further risk

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Speaker 1: of it. So it is an ongoing thing with all athletes. Ralph,

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Speaker 1: appreciate the time as always. I'll let you get back

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Speaker 1: to your pop tarts, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, Okay, you take care, Jake, Thank you very.

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Speaker 1: Much, appreciate it. Ralphrief joining us again on the Java

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Speaker 1: House Peel and Poor Guest line. By the way, yesterday

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Speaker 1: I had to I had to do something well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'll just say it. For whatever reason, I guess now

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Speaker 1: this is controversial now I don't know. But each year

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Speaker 1: in the fall, I get a flu shot and so

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Speaker 1: I had to get two shots this year and I

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Speaker 1: got both of them in my arm and I hate needles.

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Speaker 1: And the lady said to me, hey, the one thing,

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Speaker 1: because I said, you know, how sore is my arm

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Speaker 1: going to be? And she said it could be pretty sore,

1192
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Speaker 1: but you want to make sure to drink plenty of

1193
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Speaker 1: electrolytes and keep yourself hydrated. So thank goodness from Java House,

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Speaker 1: I had the liquid science I did, actually the arc

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Speaker 1: you freeze and orange, mixed it together fabulous, mixed it

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Speaker 1: in water. Had several of me yesterday and I was

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Speaker 1: stunned because today I got up and was like wow,

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Speaker 1: like I don't even really necessarily feel like I had

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Speaker 1: anything done yesterday. I don't know if those two are connected,

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Speaker 1: but it certainly gave me a peace of mind. Java

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Speaker 1: house dot com. By the way, Jake twenty five is

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Speaker 1: the discount code for twenty five percent off all right. Mary.

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Speaker 1: In football, a couple of guys being honored for Marian

1204
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 1: football and their head coach will join us to talk

1205
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Speaker 1: about it. Next big one for Marion coming up this Saturday,

1206
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Speaker 1: one five kick on the near west side raf of

1207
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Speaker 1: Cold Springs as it is Saint Francis coming in after

1208
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 1: a huge game for Marion that got a couple of

1209
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Speaker 1: players honored for them against Taylor. We'll get to all

1210
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Speaker 1: of that with their head coach who joins us now

1211
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Speaker 1: on the Java House Peelamport guest line Ted Carris joining

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Speaker 1: us coach. How are you doing good?

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Speaker 6: Jake?

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Speaker 9: Good to be with you this Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I'll tell you what you guys and I want

1216
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 1: to know you know, it's interesting because you go into

1217
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Speaker 1: this game against Taylor and you're coming off of really

1218
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: a route right where you're one side, had probably got

1219
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: a chance to get some different guys worked in, and

1220
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Speaker 1: then you go into that Taylor game and you want

1221
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Speaker 1: to talk about a shootout essentially, what did you learn

1222
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 1: from your team in a game that had seventy seven

1223
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 1: total points and a couple of guys walking away from

1224
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Speaker 1: it with some league honors.

1225
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Speaker 9: Well, in the league honor is great.

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01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 7: You know a lot of great performance just to get

1227
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Speaker 7: to win.

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Speaker 9: Keegan LeBell twenty nine attempts two hundred and thirty six

1229
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:06,799
Speaker 9: yards rushing, I mean two touchdowns, a great job. Offensive

1230
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Speaker 9: line did a great job. Isaiah Street on the other side,

1231
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Speaker 9: defensive Midwest Player of the Week fifteen tackles.

1232
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 6: He was all over the place.

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Speaker 9: Rarely do you see a D lineman notch fifteen tackles.

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Speaker 9: So he did an excellent job and we started off

1235
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 9: good up there. But we didn't have to kill her

1236
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 9: instinct early on and it became a shootout. We went

1237
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 9: up fourteen to nothing. They have a top ten scoring offense.

1238
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 9: They got us on some trick plays, so we got

1239
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 9: to have that killer in so we got to keep

1240
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 9: starting off strong.

1241
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 4: We got to keep running the football.

1242
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 1: You know, I thought you were pretty balanced offensively as well,

1243
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 1: right because and I realized LaBelle was, you know, the

1244
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 1: kid out of Mount Vernon was really good for you.

1245
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: But I thought Tristan Polk also gave you a little

1246
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 1: bit of balance offensively. Is that you know, is was

1247
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:52,600
Speaker 1: that kind of the way the game fell for you

1248
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 1: or was it by design to have that balance?

1249
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Speaker 9: It's sometimes it falls to you sometimes by design. But

1250
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Speaker 9: he is really doing a good job, Tristan Polk. He's

1251
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Speaker 9: being very he's very efficient in the passing game. He's

1252
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Speaker 9: running effectively when he needs to, He's hitting the open

1253
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 9: receivers in the running game, you know, also helps us

1254
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 9: in the passing game. But no, Tristan's been having a

1255
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 9: heck of a year really stepping up, a great leader

1256
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Speaker 9: for the team as well.

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Speaker 1: How are you different than last time we talked just

1258
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Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, when when you look at

1259
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Speaker 1: your group, But I think the last time we talked

1260
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Speaker 1: to you was probably about a month ago. You were

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Speaker 1: getting ready, I think, getting ready for Indiana wesley and

1262
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Speaker 1: so you were learning a little more about your team

1263
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 1: at that point. But have you had to kind of

1264
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 1: make adjustments or is it this is who we are

1265
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: and let's just continue to grow in that phase.

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Speaker 9: Well, I mean for you to ask how we're different, Well,

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Speaker 9: we got some confidence. You know, that was a big

1268
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Speaker 9: win to beat Indiana Wesleyan. You know, not too many

1269
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Speaker 9: teams in Indiana beating him them over the past couple

1270
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Speaker 9: of years, so that was huge for a confidence level.

1271
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Speaker 9: But we always improvised an adapt really on a daily basis.

1272
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Speaker 9: So you know, coach Smith has had you know, seven

1273
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 9: different offensive line lineups, you know, due to some injuries

1274
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 9: some guys getting deemed up defense will we changed some things,

1275
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Speaker 9: so we we we we improvised on a daft really

1276
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 9: on a daily basis, you know.

1277
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Speaker 1: And listen, offensively, coach is where you guys, you know,

1278
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Speaker 1: that's the Belkou at least from the outside of what

1279
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Speaker 1: it looks like. Because Indiana Wesleyan a top ten game

1280
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: for you there, and you're going over fifty in that game,

1281
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Speaker 1: fifty eight against Madonna. We talked about sixty nine against Defiance,

1282
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Speaker 1: So clearly you can put points on the board. My

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Speaker 1: point being, people that come out in a great environment,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a great environment on Saturday, they're

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Speaker 1: going to see some scoreboard lighting, right.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, man, our offense is clicking, man. Coach King and

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01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:40,799
Speaker 9: the staff are doing a really good job. The players

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01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 9: are executing at a high level. We got to continue

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Speaker 9: doing that. I mean we're scoring, you know, about forty

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Speaker 9: six points a game, which is outstanding, and yeah, we

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Speaker 9: we have an exciting offense to watch.

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Speaker 1: What what jumps out at you about Saint Francis, Well,

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Speaker 1: a couple of things.

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Speaker 9: You know, I'm very familiar with this staff as coach Sherman,

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01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 9: you know, helped me build up marrying here on our

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Speaker 9: first goal around.

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Speaker 4: You know, they're fighters.

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Speaker 9: You know they've been down in some games, but they've

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01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 9: been fighting back every game. And you know they're five

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01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 9: and one as well, so they're a very tough team.

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01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 9: They got a really good quarterback.

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01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 7: They passed the.

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01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 9: Ball well, opportunistic defense. It's going to be a fight,

1304
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 9: a three hour fight, which we've preached, you know, all

1305
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 9: the time to the guys. You know, you got to

1306
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 9: go hard for three hours on that Saturday night or

1307
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 9: Saturday afternoon, and that's what we have to do on

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01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:30,879
Speaker 9: the West Side to win this Saturday.

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01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 1: Coach, I want to talk to you about Coach Karas

1310
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: for Maryon is our guest here on the Java House

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01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 1: Peeling Port guest line. I want to go back to

1312
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 1: Isaiah Street and kind of what this symbolizes to an

1313
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 1: extent because one of the things that I love about

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01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 1: Maryon and I've talked a lot about this, you know,

1315
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 1: here's a kid that's from not far away from campus,

1316
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:54,640
Speaker 1: right from Brownsburg, went away to Western Michigan and then

1317
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: comes back. And so when you have the opportunity for

1318
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 1: players that went else where maybe didn't get the reps

1319
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 1: they wanted, maybe there were changes, you know, things just

1320
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 1: didn't work out for them, and then they get a

1321
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 1: chance to come back and come back home. How is it?

1322
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 1: What is the challenge from a coaching standpoint of taking

1323
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 1: a guy that has been elsewhere and gone through adversity

1324
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 1: and then coming back and having them refocus and rechannel

1325
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: into but this is what we need from you at

1326
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: Marion From a team standpoint, and then also from an

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01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: individual standpoint.

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01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's been pretty organic with each and

1329
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 9: every one of the transfers that have done that, you know,

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01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 9: and then we started off, you know, back in the day.

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01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,639
Speaker 6: You know, Jeremy Finch was one of our first ones.

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01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 9: Yep, you know that you two different big schools and

1333
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,560
Speaker 9: he came here. He had a nice twenty eleven.

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01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 7: For us back in the day.

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01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 9: But I think it's on an individual basis, you know,

1336
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 9: they went out, they wanted to, you know, the d

1337
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 9: one experience. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. But

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01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 9: we got a really good experience here on the West Side.

1339
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 9: Play some good football, get a great education, win football games,

1340
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:58,919
Speaker 9: and compete for titles. So that's something that usually motivates

1341
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 9: a lot of these guys that come back.

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01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 1: I love it man, Like I mean, like you say that,

1343
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 1: and I'm just in you saying that I'm fifty three

1344
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 1: years old, I have no eligibility. Well I probably do

1345
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 1: have eligibility left, but like it kind of gets me

1346
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 1: pumped up, you know what I mean? Like you just

1347
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 1: have an energy about you, right, you just have that

1348
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 1: energy about you that I can I can hear it

1349
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 1: when I talk to you in terms of what it

1350
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 1: means for you. And you're another one that's come back

1351
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 1: to Marian right in terms of second stint here. The

1352
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 1: program is different now than how it was before for

1353
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 1: you in what way.

1354
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 9: Well, before we'd never won a title, so we were

1355
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 9: always you know, reaching for that goal and then once

1356
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,640
Speaker 9: we got it, now it's every year the goal is

1357
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 9: to get another title and uh, you know, Maryon has

1358
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 9: another one after I left in fifteen, and we are

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01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 9: going to honor the twenty fifteen national champs and their

1360
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 9: ten year anniversary for this game. But it's just, you know,

1361
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 9: the expectation is that, so you know, we embrace that

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01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 9: and we work towards it every day.

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01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 1: It is homecoming, It is a one h five kick.

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01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 1: It is University of Saint Francis and Marion finds themselves

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01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 1: now ranked eleventh. Saint Francis comes in at twenty four,

1366
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 1: so it is going to be a tilt, and then

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01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 1: Olivet Nazarene right after that, which is also a big

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01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 1: one as well, So you know that's going to be

1369
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: on the road. So I guess you got to go

1370
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 1: one game at a time, but it's a big one

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01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 1: coming up on Saturday. Coach certainly wish you the best

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01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:25,640
Speaker 1: of luck with it.

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01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:28,560
Speaker 9: Well, thank you, Jake, We appreciate it. It's going to

1374
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 9: be a freak show on the West Side for sure.

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01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 1: I love it, man, that's the freak show on the

1376
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 1: West Side. I love it. Big time scoring and again

1377
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 1: an offense that is clicking on all cylinders. We talked

1378
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 1: about it. Their balance, they can run, they can throw,

1379
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 1: and Saint Francis is going to be a challenge as well.

1380
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 1: Then Olivet Nazarene and then Saint Francis, Judson and Saint

1381
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: X of Illinois to round out the schedule before the

1382
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 1: NAIA playoffs. For the Marion Knights, I want to get

1383
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 1: back into something speaking of college football. I'm sitting there

1384
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 1: and I'm scanning last night late watch the TV show

1385
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 1: a streaming show that I'm curious if I think I'm

1386
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 1: the only one watching it. And it got done, and

1387
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there scrolling through my phone reading stuff, and boom,

1388
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 1: I hear somebody talking who I like, and he's talking

1389
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: about something that catches my ear, and I say to myself,

1390
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 1: it's still surreal to me that this is a national

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01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 1: topic of conversation that's happening right here in our backyard.

1392
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 1: And it was three p forty eight last night during

1393
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 1: about of insomnia when I discovered it. But I'm gonna

1394
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 1: share it with you next. Okay, Corbyn is just part

1395
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 1: of your Can I guess the artist with each of these?

1396
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 2: Go ahead?

1397
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 1: Okay, now I'm going to show. I mean literally, people

1398
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 1: are gonna laugh at me because and I don't dis

1399
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 1: I used to not be a huge fan of country music.

1400
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 1: And then the more I heard it, the more I

1401
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 1: was like, you know this, it just feels like summertime.

1402
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 1: That's what I do like about it. So I'm cool

1403
01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 1: with it. Right, It's just not necessarily my immediate wheelhouse.

1404
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 1: But can let me hear a little bit more of this?

1405
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 1: I realized there's like probably some YouTube violation or something here.

1406
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 1: But let me hear a little more of this here. Well,

1407
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 1: I can't hear the fellow singing. I'm gonna go with

1408
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 1: how old is this guy?

1409
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 2: Oh, he's probably in his late forties early fifties now,

1410
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 2: and this is from when that song round ninety five.

1411
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 2: I'll go with Keith Urban. Is this a mainstream artist?

1412
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 2: He had like one really good song, but other than that,

1413
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 2: nothing really initials. Please ce a. He has a bar

1414
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 2: down town here here right off of Meridian. Go ahead,

1415
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 2: hit me with it. It is Clayton Anderson.

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01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 1: Oh well, I mean I should have known that that's

1417
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 1: JV's buddy. Yeah, I thought that was when you were

1418
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 1: playing that, I just assumed you were going with Yeah,

1419
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 1: I know the hell I should have done that. Clayton

1420
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 1: Anderson's great dude, and he's got not just the one

1421
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:58,680
Speaker 1: down there, but he's gonna do it the same I

1422
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:01,679
Speaker 1: think in Broaderpool and plays a ton of different things

1423
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:03,640
Speaker 1: and is obviously on with Jamie all the time. So

1424
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 1: I apologized to Clayton Anderson. And I did not know

1425
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 1: that that was him right there, although I only heard

1426
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 1: like three seconds of the song for what it's worth,

1427
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 1: But really good dude from right here in central Indiana.

1428
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 2: All right, So.

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01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:18,719
Speaker 1: Yesterday I'm sitting there, I'm scrolling through and I stumbled

1430
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 1: upon the and I've always kind of liked RG three,

1431
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know as a player, I thought.

1432
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because I remember when he entered into

1433
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:35,600
Speaker 1: the NFL along with Andrew Luck, and there was a

1434
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 1: lot of discussion between the two as to which one

1435
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 1: was the rookie of the year. And I remember doing

1436
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:41,839
Speaker 1: a radio show and having a guy on from Washington

1437
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:43,640
Speaker 1: and we kind of debated it back and forth, and

1438
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 1: to me, it was a no brainer that was Andrew Luck.

1439
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 1: But RG three was a really good player and obviously

1440
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 1: a dynamic Heisman Trophy winner, a guy probably that listens

1441
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 1: to a little Clayton Anderson from time to time. And

1442
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 1: he's got a podcast out of pocket with RG three

1443
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 1: and in it. And I assume this is from yesterday,

1444
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 1: but certainly from since Saturday. He is a guy that

1445
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,839
Speaker 1: you know, played at a big time program, played at Baylor,

1446
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 1: Wana Heisman, has been in the NFL, and certainly knows

1447
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:20,639
Speaker 1: the game and would have no reason to really give

1448
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 1: props to a school like Indiana that, as we talked

1449
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 1: about earlier with Chris Ditto. I thought it was interesting

1450
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 1: when Ditto said, you know, look, I'm traveling right now

1451
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: and I'm in Georgia, and I don't usually wear like

1452
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 1: an Indiana hat or an Indiana shirt, And He's like,

1453
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 1: and now I'm wearing it all the time because I'm

1454
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 1: proud to be like, you know, somebody that played football

1455
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 1: in Indiana. And RG three apparently is totally on board

1456
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 1: RG three. Robert Griffin, iid the Out of Pocket podcast,

1457
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 1: was talking about his overall observations of college football and

1458
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 1: lo and behold, lo and behold RG three. Let me

1459
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:05,639
Speaker 1: ask you this, who do you believe is the top

1460
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,679
Speaker 1: team in the land? Who is the best Ohio State?

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01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 1: Ohio State's right number one? Ohio State, Ryan Day, defending

1462
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:17,799
Speaker 1: national champs, Talent all over the place, five stars galore.

1463
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 1: How can anybody top Ohio State? But RG three, you

1464
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 1: tell me who's tops in the land the country?

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01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 10: In curse Signetti has them playing Indiana is the best

1466
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:31,759
Speaker 10: team in the country. In curse Signetti has them playing

1467
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 10: at a high level. And I understand people are wary

1468
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 10: because of last year they got blown out in the

1469
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 10: College Football Playoff, and that makes you hold that against them.

1470
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 10: But they went on the road and beat Oregon, who

1471
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 10: I had ranked as the number one team in the

1472
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 10: country going into this week, in front of a sold

1473
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 10: out crowd. That to me, if you want to be

1474
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 10: the man, you gotta beat the man, and Oregon was

1475
01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 10: the man in Indiana did it? Ohio state number one

1476
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 10: in the ap pole. And yes, they're the reigning national champions,

1477
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,640
Speaker 10: and they have looked impressive this year. But I do

1478
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,679
Speaker 10: believe Indiana is the best team in the country because

1479
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 10: of the way they beat Oregon.

1480
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 1: Now, he was so emphatic about it that he even

1481
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 1: hiccuped at the beginning and said it twice. Indiana number

1482
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 1: one in the country. Now. The one thing you can

1483
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 1: say to that, the one thing you can say to

1484
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 1: that is well, wait a minute. By his own admission,

1485
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 1: a week ago, Oregon was the best team in the country,

1486
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 1: So then you could say, okay, So if Indiana went

1487
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 1: in and beat Oregon, then yes, the rationale is Indiana's

1488
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 1: number one. And I like the fact that he is

1489
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 1: giving them their props of hey, they have the most

1490
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 1: impressive win in college football right now. They do. However,

1491
01:22:55,200 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 1: do we question his assessment of what means what makes

1492
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 1: somebody number one if he thought Oregon was number one

1493
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 1: and not Ohio State to begin going into that game.

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01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, I think when you look at it, and

1495
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 1: there is whether you believe it or not, there is

1496
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 1: a bias towards name recognition in Indiana to a lot

1497
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 1: of people. Even with everything that they do, is still

1498
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 1: going to get hesitancy from some folks because and I mean,

1499
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 1: I understand this, it's Indiana, you know, kind of like

1500
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 1: when you, let's be real, when you buy a pair

1501
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 1: of Adidas or you buy a Polo whatever it might be,

1502
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 1: and you buy it at a discount store as opposed

1503
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 1: to Sacks Fifth Avenue. It's the same shoe, the same shirt,

1504
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 1: it's the same quality, but there's this stigma of yeah,

1505
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 1: but it must be like an outdated version or there's

1506
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 1: got to be something like I'm gonna look and see

1507
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 1: if there's something irregular about it, because why did it

1508
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 1: end up at a discount store? Is it a year

1509
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 1: old version? Is it like a twenty twenty three model?

1510
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 1: Like what's the deal here?

1511
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 6: Why?

1512
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 4: Why?

1513
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 1: And I'll just tell everybody I bought it at Sacks

1514
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 1: Because name clout branding goes a long way and the

1515
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 1: branding of a Georgia we still think and it is

1516
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 1: surreal to me. Believe me, Believe me, when you think

1517
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 1: on paper, Ohio State's a little different because there's familiarity,

1518
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 1: because it's a Big ten team. But I will be

1519
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 1: the first to admit and Indiana fans probably gonna hate

1520
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:45,600
Speaker 1: me for saying it. Perdue fans are gonna hate me

1521
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 1: for saying it. Notre Dame fans are gonna hate me

1522
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 1: for saying it. I won't admit to the fact that

1523
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 1: there is to me a bit of a bias and

1524
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:59,719
Speaker 1: just a fear factor, for lack of a better phrase,

1525
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 1: about the SEC, because when I think of the SEC

1526
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 1: and I think about now Texas, this year has been

1527
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 1: a whole different mystery. But you know, Georgia, Alabama, even

1528
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 1: Old Miss, even though Old Miss is kind of the

1529
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 1: penn State of the SEC. I mean, they do this

1530
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 1: every year. You get excited and then reality eventually kicks in.

1531
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 1: But all of those schools and programs you're talking about,

1532
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand people at night under the lights, national television, drunken,

1533
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 1: rowdy listen. I I went to a Tennessee game against

1534
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 1: South Carolina fifteen years ago a night game seven thirty

1535
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,560
Speaker 1: kick Tennessee was in a it was the end of

1536
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 1: the full matter of fact, it was the game that

1537
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 1: I think probably was the end of Phil Folmer's time

1538
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:54,720
Speaker 1: at Tennessee. South Carolina came in and beat them, and

1539
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 1: it relegated Tennessee into I think they ended up going

1540
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 1: to like the Liberty Bowl, you know, in Tennessee was

1541
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 1: accustomed to. It was an insult to go to the

1542
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 1: Citrus Bowl, and they went even lower than that. But this,

1543
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 1: even in a down Tennessee year, raucous environment, one hundred

1544
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 1: thousand people and I'm watching just the build up to

1545
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 1: the game, and then I actually watched a co ed

1546
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 1: puke from the walkway like four floors up, like leaning

1547
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 1: over and like people are celebrating it, and I'm just thinking,

1548
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 1: this is a whole different animal. And it was an

1549
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 1: awesome environment. I mean, the checkerboard, everything else, I mean,

1550
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 1: it was Knoxville was electric. But my point being, even

1551
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 1: in the SEC, even in down years, you're not going,

1552
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 1: yeah and't getting some afternoon game against Minnesota or a

1553
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:54,679
Speaker 1: crowd in Rutgers. Every single game you play in the SEC,

1554
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 1: you are going up against It's you against the world. Literally,

1555
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 1: it's you against the world, and so there is a

1556
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 1: branding that comes with that. There's this expectation, in my opinion,

1557
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 1: in my thought, in my mind, in my association that

1558
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 1: at Georgia or an Alabama, or a Tennessee or an

1559
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 1: LSU that they are just on a different level. And

1560
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:21,640
Speaker 1: it is still to me surreal, admittedly to think that Indiana,

1561
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 1: the fighting hoosiers of Indiana, have gotten themselves into that realm.

1562
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:32,559
Speaker 1: It does feel very strange to me. Back into the cults.

1563
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:34,719
Speaker 1: What Shane Steichen had to say about Who's in Who's

1564
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 1: out for their game coming up this weekend, and I

1565
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 1: will tell you about the TV show I watched last

1566
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 1: night because it does have a sports theme. Next, Who

1567
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:52,719
Speaker 1: do We Got Here? Tracy Bird? Say again Tracy Bird,

1568
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:57,759
Speaker 1: Tracy Burke Okay, Bird Bird like the Flying Things? Okay?

1569
01:27:58,000 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 1: And how Big a Star is Tracy Bird? I mean,

1570
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 1: I'm totally opening myself up for people to mock me,

1571
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 1: right because I'm I don't dislike that style of music.

1572
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 1: I just was never that into it, especially back then.

1573
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 1: How big a Star is Tracy byrd.

1574
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 2: The mid nineties, he was pretty big, but as we

1575
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 2: got into the later nineties. He kind of fell off

1576
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 2: the face of the earth flip the wing? Did he? Sure? Okay?

1577
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 1: All right? Shane Sdiken has a new quarterback in the mix,

1578
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 1: and by that I mean not really, but we'll get

1579
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 1: into that in a second. Speaking of new quarterbacks, I'm

1580
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 1: curious if anybody else I've mentioned this before, is anybody

1581
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 1: else watching Chad Powers? Am I the only one watching

1582
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 1: the show? This chair is really noisy. By the way, Corbyn,

1583
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:59,640
Speaker 1: have you seen Chad Powers? Like the first two episodes?

1584
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 1: Liked it or didn't like it?

1585
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:05,360
Speaker 2: I liked it, but I hate when streaming services do this,

1586
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 2: they release them a week or two out of time. Game.

1587
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 1: I want to benjum j no, you're not wrong, and

1588
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Here's the problem with what you're

1589
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 1: talking about. And you see this a lot with these shows.

1590
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 1: A lot of times stick as another example where they

1591
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 1: have a show and you like it, but then they

1592
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 1: have not necessarily been they haven't been picked up yet

1593
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 1: for another season, so it's during the time that you're

1594
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,560
Speaker 1: watching it where they then get the go ahead to

1595
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 1: do another season, So then you have to wait several

1596
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:41,759
Speaker 1: months and by the time and you either this happened

1597
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 1: to Me with Ozark with Ozark, which was a great show.

1598
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 1: I loved Ozark, and I can't remember how many seasons

1599
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 1: Ozark was, but the last season of Ozark there was

1600
01:29:54,400 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 1: a sizeable gap before it was released. And Ozark is

1601
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 1: a show that there were so many characters in intricra

1602
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 1: seasons storylines that it was easy to lose track of

1603
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:11,560
Speaker 1: it all. So when I went back to watch the

1604
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 1: final season, I watched like the first episode and was like, wait,

1605
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 1: I don't remember who now? Who is this guy again?

1606
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:21,599
Speaker 1: And and so I just I completely lost attention span

1607
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 1: for it. Dead to Me is another one where the

1608
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 1: same thing happened. I mean, I really loved one of

1609
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:28,599
Speaker 1: the seasons and like Benje watched it, you know, one

1610
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:29,760
Speaker 1: of those like I've got to get to bed, but

1611
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 1: I gotta watch another episode and then yeah, I had

1612
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:35,680
Speaker 1: to wait forever, and then by then it was kind

1613
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 1: of out of sight, out of mind. So Chad Powers

1614
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 1: for those that are unfamiliar, and I'm it is it's

1615
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 1: like Saved by the Bell. It's so bad. It's good,

1616
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 1: it's very likable. It's totally hokey, it's totally campy, it's

1617
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:57,599
Speaker 1: totally unrealistic. But Eli Manning and Peyton Manning and Omaha Productions.

1618
01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 1: Eli Manning is one of the producers for it. And

1619
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 1: if you're not familiar with the folks, that's on Hulu

1620
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:05,800
Speaker 1: and it is. There was a couple of years ago

1621
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 1: a skit where Eli Manning went in disguise and went

1622
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 1: to I can't remember what school it was and acted

1623
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 1: like he was going to be a walk on quarterback

1624
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:18,680
Speaker 1: and the coaches knew who it was, but you know,

1625
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:20,800
Speaker 1: all these players were like, who is this dude? Like

1626
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 1: he's just thrown it on a rope like you know,

1627
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 1: sixty yards and whatever else, and then they unveil and

1628
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 1: show that it's actually Eli Manning. So it's based off

1629
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 1: of that, and the plot of the show non spoiler

1630
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 1: alert is a quarterback at Oregon who's a big time

1631
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:39,799
Speaker 1: player and then he kind of falls out of favor,

1632
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:45,640
Speaker 1: his eligibility is up, and he then figures out a

1633
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 1: way to basically miss his doubt fired, disguise himself in

1634
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 1: a water boy type situation and then go to a

1635
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 1: small school and try out as the quarterback and walk

1636
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:56,719
Speaker 1: on to the team as the new quarterback.

1637
01:31:58,400 --> 01:31:58,720
Speaker 4: And so.

1638
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 1: That's the you know, that's kind of the storyline of

1639
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:06,559
Speaker 1: all of it was at Penn State where Eli Manning

1640
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:09,760
Speaker 1: went and did and punked them. Basically, yeah, okay, so

1641
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 1: this this particular show. Anyway, last night there was a

1642
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 1: new show that was out and I watched it and

1643
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 1: it's pretty enjoyable and I actually now there's kind of

1644
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:21,920
Speaker 1: a hook a tease if you will, for another episode,

1645
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:24,360
Speaker 1: and I'm actually looking forward to it. So we'll see

1646
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 1: what happens with the show itself. But when it comes

1647
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 1: to quarterbacks and quarterbacks that people are surprised when they

1648
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 1: show up, you know, perhaps that was the thought for

1649
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 1: the Colts because of the fact that they held and

1650
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:43,519
Speaker 1: we now know Anthony Richardson on ir relatively assuming that

1651
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:51,479
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones stays healthy, relatively insignificant in the grand scheme

1652
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 1: of things, because of the fact that Daniel Jones is

1653
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:56,799
Speaker 1: going to be get the guy taking all the snaps.

1654
01:32:56,880 --> 01:33:02,120
Speaker 1: But they worked out yesterday four quarterbacks. After working out

1655
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:05,720
Speaker 1: four quarterbacks, they then decide to sign Brett Rippon, who

1656
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 1: most recently was in Cincinnati was released there. His uncle

1657
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 1: Mark Rippan was of course a great quarterback in the

1658
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 1: NFL that played in the Super Bowl, was a backup

1659
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:16,760
Speaker 1: for the Colts for Peyton Manning at the twilight of

1660
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:22,400
Speaker 1: his career, and the question became, okay, so does that

1661
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:25,280
Speaker 1: mean that Riley Leonard, who a lot of people at

1662
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:26,840
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year were like, let's see what

1663
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 1: Riley Leonard could do, before we knew just how good

1664
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:34,639
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, for example, was going to be. The question became, okay,

1665
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:38,760
Speaker 1: so Riley Leonard. If they have Riley Leonard in the

1666
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 1: mix and Anthony Richardson is on IR and then they

1667
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:42,960
Speaker 1: go out and they get somebody, does that mean that

1668
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:45,839
Speaker 1: Riley Leonard still waits his turn as a young player

1669
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 1: and Brett Rippan, now all of a sudden is the

1670
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:50,719
Speaker 1: guy that, because he has had starts in the NFL,

1671
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:54,559
Speaker 1: that's who you go with and that's your backup? How

1672
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 1: is that going to work out? Shane Steichen did exactly

1673
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:01,559
Speaker 1: dress address. I should say exactly that here is Shane

1674
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,559
Speaker 1: Stikeen on the fact that they had four quarterbacks yesterday

1675
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 1: that worked out. Brett Rippon was not one of them.

1676
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:09,720
Speaker 1: But that's who they go with. But what does it mean,

1677
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 1: Shane Steiken, now that you've signed Brett Rippen on Riley Leonard,

1678
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 1: and which one becomes the primary backup.

1679
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Brett Rippan, Yeah, he'll be here later today, he's

1680
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:22,720
Speaker 3: flying in. But excited about him obviously, guy's been doing

1681
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:25,360
Speaker 3: it for a long time. To the practice squad. Riley

1682
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:29,200
Speaker 3: will be our backup this week. You know, I love Riley.

1683
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 3: I think Riley's came in with the right mindset from

1684
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:34,480
Speaker 3: day one, the way he works, the way he prepares.

1685
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 3: So it's a hell of an opportunity for Riley this week.

1686
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:40,679
Speaker 3: And then, like I said, he'll be our backup this week,

1687
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 3: and then we'll see how everything goes, you know, through

1688
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:43,920
Speaker 3: the next couple of weeks.

1689
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:47,600
Speaker 1: Now. The other question was this for Shane Steiken with

1690
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson and the injury to the eye and then

1691
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:54,760
Speaker 1: and we know what that means. And Richardson is a

1692
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 1: guy that was not going to be taking snaps unless

1693
01:34:57,080 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 1: something happened to Daniel Daniel Jones regardless. But you have

1694
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 1: other key injuries for the Colts, and when you think

1695
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:13,000
Speaker 1: about going up against Justin Herbert and the offense of

1696
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 1: the Chargers and the challenge thereof, and I listen, I

1697
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:21,320
Speaker 1: love Justin Herbert and Jim Harbaugh and his ability to

1698
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 1: kind of awaken quarterbacks. You know, Herbert is a player

1699
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 1: that Jimmy Johnson has said if he had the number

1700
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:36,720
Speaker 1: one pick right now in the NFL. This was last

1701
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:39,719
Speaker 1: year he said this, but the guy he would select

1702
01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 1: would be Justin Herbert to lead his team. Big arm.

1703
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 1: He was the first guy Justin Herbert that I ever

1704
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 1: heard the term arm talent. And we we like his

1705
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 1: arm talent. What do you mean, like it comes out

1706
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 1: and it plays the violin, No, no, no, arm talent.

1707
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 1: You know, you can throw the ball from any number

1708
01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 1: of ways across the field, lombat, whatever. But health has

1709
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 1: been at times a challenge for Herbert and then just

1710
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:09,640
Speaker 1: getting that offense going with with Jim Harbaugh. But you

1711
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:11,960
Speaker 1: know that there is a challenge there in trying to

1712
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 1: slow down that passing game for the Chargers. They have

1713
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 1: not protected Herbert well, but he still can put the

1714
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:20,840
Speaker 1: ball where it needs to go. So then you wonder

1715
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:25,599
Speaker 1: about Mooney Ward notably who had the freak concussion take

1716
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 1: place in the pregame against Arizona, Kenny Moore who's been out,

1717
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 1: and then you have Jalen Jones that you're still waiting

1718
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 1: to get back as well. So a lot of areas

1719
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 1: of health here is Shane Steichen on updates on a

1720
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:43,120
Speaker 1: trio of players and who we may or may not

1721
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 1: see on Sunday.

1722
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 3: As you guys know, we put ar on ir. He'll

1723
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:50,639
Speaker 3: miss at least four weeks. I don't have an exact

1724
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 3: timetable on it. He'll be in and out, you know,

1725
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:57,720
Speaker 3: getting checkups, but he'll still be engaged being meetings. But

1726
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 3: obviously I'll have some medical attention and just and for

1727
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:04,560
Speaker 3: a healthy recovery. Their monia is in the protocol. So

1728
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:08,679
Speaker 3: we'll see how the week goes. Kenny Moore will return

1729
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 3: to practice today. I'll go through some individual and get

1730
01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:13,760
Speaker 3: him some reps today, so I'm going to have him.

1731
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:14,679
Speaker 2: Back, Okay.

1732
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 1: So that's where things stand. Joel Erickson coming up about

1733
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:21,240
Speaker 1: twenty minutes from now. We'll get even more on the

1734
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:25,719
Speaker 1: expectations for Sunday with the Colts themselves. But I mentioned

1735
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:34,560
Speaker 1: this earlier when when we talk about the Colts and

1736
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:39,320
Speaker 1: you look at sports in general, you know, the Colts

1737
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:44,759
Speaker 1: are I think for a lot of people, this particular group,

1738
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:49,600
Speaker 1: it it endears. We're in you know, we find it

1739
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:53,559
Speaker 1: endearing and we did as well. When if you look

1740
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:57,880
Speaker 1: in this town at the greatest teams that we've seen,

1741
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 1: the teams that we have most celebrated. There are really

1742
01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 1: three that come to mind. The Peyton Manning era Colts

1743
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 1: because they won a Super Bowl, The Reggie Miller era

1744
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 1: Pacers because that was the first one from an NBA

1745
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:20,080
Speaker 1: standpoint that broke through. And yes, obviously the ABA Pacers

1746
01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 1: it goes without saying. And then the NBA Pacers, and

1747
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:28,640
Speaker 1: then the Pacers group that we currently are seeing, and

1748
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 1: now this Colts team in terms of this surprise and

1749
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:36,559
Speaker 1: where they are and one of the things I think

1750
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:44,120
Speaker 1: that makes us different. It makes Indianapolis different, and it's

1751
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 1: why I'm the first to admit I could not do

1752
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:51,799
Speaker 1: this job in Tampa. I couldn't do this job in Phoenix.

1753
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 1: I couldn't do this job in Denver because I can't

1754
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:57,720
Speaker 1: go in and speak to what it means to be

1755
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 1: a native of those places. I can't speak to and

1756
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 1: I think you can you can sometimes since through it

1757
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:09,560
Speaker 1: when people are trying to be a part of it

1758
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:14,200
Speaker 1: or trying to say they know the fabric and the

1759
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:19,679
Speaker 1: foundation of something if they don't organically, and in this city,

1760
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 1: the thing that makes us unique. We have a lot

1761
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 1: of differences in this town. We have a lot of

1762
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 1: backgrounds in this town, and we have a lot of

1763
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:35,040
Speaker 1: challenges as a people in this town certainly, But one

1764
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 1: thing that for the most part bonds us all is

1765
01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 1: we all have within us the same understanding of what

1766
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:49,559
Speaker 1: it means to be part of and from this town.

1767
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 1: And we don't have the skyline of New York City,

1768
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:57,200
Speaker 1: and we don't have the beaches of Miami, and we

1769
01:39:57,280 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 1: don't have the weather of Los Angeles, and we don't

1770
01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:02,280
Speaker 1: have the mountain of Denver. But what we have is

1771
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:06,639
Speaker 1: still a pride about being from Indianapolis. And we respect

1772
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 1: and we admire and we appreciate when the teams that

1773
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:17,120
Speaker 1: we pull for have that same foundation. And that group

1774
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:19,839
Speaker 1: that I'm talking about with the Reggie Miller era Pacers

1775
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:24,879
Speaker 1: did not happen overnight. They drafted Reggie Miller, they drafted

1776
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:27,560
Speaker 1: Rick Smiths, they drafted Dale Davis, and we watched it

1777
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:32,040
Speaker 1: all come together, and we watched these players that took

1778
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:35,040
Speaker 1: one step and then another step and then another step

1779
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:37,240
Speaker 1: year by year, and that's why we fell in love

1780
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:42,719
Speaker 1: with it. And the Peyton Manning era Colts. Peyton Manning

1781
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 1: as a rookie threw for more interceptions than anybody in

1782
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:47,559
Speaker 1: the history of the league. As a rookie, Peyton Manning

1783
01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:51,320
Speaker 1: as a rookie won three games. And then they drafted

1784
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 1: Edwin James, and they drafted Dallas Clark, and they drafted

1785
01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 1: Dwight Freeney, and we watched it come together and we

1786
01:40:58,680 --> 01:41:02,640
Speaker 1: loved it because we saw this group of players that

1787
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:08,759
Speaker 1: bonded together like those Pacers teams partially based on wanting

1788
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:13,360
Speaker 1: to prove people wrong. And that's what we in Indiana

1789
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 1: like to do. We like to prove people wrong. When

1790
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 1: we go somewhere and we say we're from Indianapolis and

1791
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:19,560
Speaker 1: be like, oh, any no place, Like no, no, no,

1792
01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to prove you wrong. It's a cool city.

1793
01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:23,560
Speaker 1: We have a lot to offer here, We have a

1794
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:29,320
Speaker 1: lot going for us, and this particular Colts team. Yes,

1795
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:33,559
Speaker 1: I realized that Daniel Jones was a free agent signing.

1796
01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:36,720
Speaker 1: He was not organically grown and watered and planted here

1797
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:41,519
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. But he's proving people wrong. He's coming here

1798
01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:45,639
Speaker 1: after being dispatched by the big Skyline of New York

1799
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:47,479
Speaker 1: and it's like he's going to come here and prove

1800
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:51,120
Speaker 1: them wrong. And the Cults organization is proving the Giants

1801
01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 1: wrong and Michael Pittman Jr. Big LA guy, but he

1802
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 1: comes to Indianapolis and he plays through injury, and he

1803
01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:06,840
Speaker 1: throws a block to free up Jonathan Taylor, and he

1804
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:10,080
Speaker 1: gives up his body and his own glory at times

1805
01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:12,960
Speaker 1: for the better of the team to prove people wrong.

1806
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:16,680
Speaker 1: And the Pacers roster of a year ago that went

1807
01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:19,479
Speaker 1: to the finals. And it's why I said, I literally

1808
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:25,360
Speaker 1: was willing to sacrifice and punt and give up my objectivity,

1809
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:28,880
Speaker 1: my professionalism of being able to just come out and

1810
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 1: say I'm not a fan of a team. I'm rather

1811
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 1: here to sit here and say here's what happened in

1812
01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:38,200
Speaker 1: the game last night and let you folks then determine

1813
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:42,280
Speaker 1: whether that was right or wrong. And with that Pacers group,

1814
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:47,519
Speaker 1: I was liberated. I was like, this weight came off

1815
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:49,439
Speaker 1: of me when I came on the air and said

1816
01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to root for this team outwardly and I'm

1817
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 1: going to cheerlead for this team outwardly because they are

1818
01:42:56,479 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 1: this close to an NBA title and they make me

1819
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:01,519
Speaker 1: again proud to be from here. And I bleed the

1820
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 1: torch anyway, right, But it was a group made up

1821
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:09,960
Speaker 1: of Aaron Nesmith. I mean, I've gone over all of it,

1822
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 1: and I went over all of it during the finals.

1823
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:13,519
Speaker 1: It is a group of players that was made up

1824
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:19,439
Speaker 1: of and come together to prove people wrong. Obi Toppen

1825
01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:21,720
Speaker 1: wanted to prove wrong that the Knicks didn't use him enough.

1826
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 1: Aaron Nei Smith wanted to prove wrong that the Boston

1827
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:27,360
Speaker 1: Celtics buried him and didn't give him the right opportunity.

1828
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:30,599
Speaker 1: Tyreesse Haliburton wanted to prove wrong that the Sacramento Kings

1829
01:43:31,479 --> 01:43:35,479
Speaker 1: aired in making him think he was going to be

1830
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 1: a cornerstone of their franchise and then going in an

1831
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:42,080
Speaker 1: opposite direction and sending him elsewhere. And each of those

1832
01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:46,120
Speaker 1: players came together collectively to say, we are going to

1833
01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:49,479
Speaker 1: come together for the betterment of a team as opposed

1834
01:43:49,479 --> 01:43:53,200
Speaker 1: to individual and that's what we love and ask for

1835
01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:56,400
Speaker 1: of our teams. And it's why, for example, in the

1836
01:43:56,439 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball playoffs, I'm watching last night, and you

1837
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:04,559
Speaker 1: know Toronto. I mean, I like the Blue Jays, right,

1838
01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:06,439
Speaker 1: but the Blue Jays have the fifth highest payroll in

1839
01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:09,880
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, the New York Yankees and the Boston

1840
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 1: Red Sox. Unless you are a fan of one of

1841
01:44:13,479 --> 01:44:16,799
Speaker 1: those two teams, you probably root against them just because

1842
01:44:16,920 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 1: of what it stands for. The Los Angeles Dodgers, I mean,

1843
01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:22,439
Speaker 1: the best player in baseball, show Yatani plays for him.

1844
01:44:22,439 --> 01:44:24,920
Speaker 1: You know why, because they said, here's like three hundred million,

1845
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:26,400
Speaker 1: just come here and we'll even defer it if we

1846
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:31,559
Speaker 1: have to. Who cares? And their payroll is astronomical, and look,

1847
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:34,320
Speaker 1: we can envy that. And I'm not saying that we

1848
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:39,760
Speaker 1: don't to an extent, but we like foundation of principle

1849
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 1: and morality and togetherness. It's what makes us different as

1850
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:48,400
Speaker 1: a city than a lot of places, Like we don't

1851
01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:50,880
Speaker 1: have the glitz and glamour of the other places, but

1852
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:55,200
Speaker 1: we have the fact that we appride in to an

1853
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:59,160
Speaker 1: extent an inferiority complex about being from Indiana. And it's

1854
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:03,519
Speaker 1: what I love about Jim Miller. And it's why if

1855
01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:06,439
Speaker 1: you have not heard this yet, you're gonna love it.

1856
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:08,479
Speaker 1: And if you have, you're gonna love it even more.

1857
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:12,840
Speaker 1: The second time or the third, Tyree's Halliburton during the

1858
01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:17,599
Speaker 1: NBA Finals had and I was concerned about it. Open disclaimer,

1859
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:22,120
Speaker 1: I was concerned about it. I'd been burt, I'd been

1860
01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:25,000
Speaker 1: burt in this town. I'd been burnt by Paul George,

1861
01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:27,560
Speaker 1: who didn't have what I'm talking about and wanted to

1862
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:32,719
Speaker 1: go elsewhere. I'd been burnt by Victor Oladipo, who didn't

1863
01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:36,120
Speaker 1: have what I'm talking about and thought he had outgrown Indiana,

1864
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:38,639
Speaker 1: even though it was the place that he was able

1865
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:41,840
Speaker 1: to make a name for himself collegiately and then even professionally.

1866
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:43,880
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, he's on the mass singer

1867
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:46,120
Speaker 1: and he's a big star, and he's putting out albums,

1868
01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:48,120
Speaker 1: and he's going down to Miami to rehab, and he's

1869
01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:50,280
Speaker 1: not coming back to stand on the sidelines with his teammates,

1870
01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:54,360
Speaker 1: and et cetera. Okay, and all of those things. Oladipo

1871
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:58,439
Speaker 1: got too big. Paul George got too big. I remember

1872
01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:01,360
Speaker 1: asking Paul George when he first started to hit the

1873
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:06,960
Speaker 1: on the scene of the NBA and raise eyebrows about

1874
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:09,519
Speaker 1: his skill set and his promise. And here's this kid

1875
01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:13,439
Speaker 1: from Riverside at Fresno, California, you know, et cetera. And

1876
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:16,800
Speaker 1: he comes here and I say, are you aware of

1877
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:18,880
Speaker 1: the fact that you're basically blowing up before our eyes?

1878
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 1: And he's like, I am, I am aware of it,

1879
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:23,080
Speaker 1: and it didn't take long before Paul George. He's not

1880
01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 1: a bad guy, nice guy, but Paul George didn't have

1881
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 1: it in him. He needed the glitz and glamour elsewhere.

1882
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:37,120
Speaker 1: But Reggie Miller out of UCLA drafted to Indiana, and

1883
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:39,519
Speaker 1: I said during the finals, the thing I loved about

1884
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:42,280
Speaker 1: it is Reggie Miller finally was able to, in fact,

1885
01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:45,000
Speaker 1: let the rest of the world know. I realized that

1886
01:46:45,080 --> 01:46:48,839
Speaker 1: after playing for Indiana for eighteen seasons and leaving Indiana

1887
01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:52,439
Speaker 1: and becoming a big TV star and going on T

1888
01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:54,679
Speaker 1: and T and working for T and T and doing

1889
01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 1: games on the sidelines and becoming their chief guy, at

1890
01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 1: his core, he's still deep down, was never able to

1891
01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:06,759
Speaker 1: completely shed internally the fact that he was a Hoosier,

1892
01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:10,479
Speaker 1: and he understood and grasped and saw what it meant

1893
01:47:10,760 --> 01:47:14,560
Speaker 1: to have that morality, that principle, that foundation of the

1894
01:47:14,680 --> 01:47:19,200
Speaker 1: togetherness of this town. And finally, during the finals, he

1895
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:22,760
Speaker 1: was able to say, I'm going to surrender my objectivity,

1896
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to embrace my fandom. I'm going to let

1897
01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 1: the entire world know that when it comes down to it,

1898
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 1: I am still proud to be an Indiana pacer. And

1899
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:35,800
Speaker 1: he's on the sidelines and he's cheering, and they're playing

1900
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:38,240
Speaker 1: Hoosiers on the JumboTron, and he's standing up and he's

1901
01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 1: leading the crowd, just like a typical fan, except for

1902
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:43,800
Speaker 1: the fact that he's sitting courtside with his kid, wearing

1903
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:46,679
Speaker 1: his jeans and a Pacer jersey, cheering on that team

1904
01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:50,360
Speaker 1: a year ago. And while he's doing it, he is

1905
01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:53,880
Speaker 1: cheering for Tyrese Haliburton, who has a film crew follow

1906
01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:57,600
Speaker 1: him around for a show that's going to be released

1907
01:47:57,720 --> 01:48:00,360
Speaker 1: on I believe it's Netflix, but a show that is

1908
01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:04,000
Speaker 1: following around Tyre's Halliburton. And I thought to myself, Oh gosh, no,

1909
01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 1: not with Tyre's Halliburton. Please don't let him become Paul George.

1910
01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:11,200
Speaker 1: Don't let him become Victor Oladipo. Don't let him like

1911
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Speaker 1: when Paul George went on late night television dressed like

1912
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Speaker 1: Michael Jackson from the Thriller video and I thought, oh,

1913
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Speaker 1: my gosh, here it is. This is the beginning of

1914
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Speaker 1: the end. He's gotten too big for Indiana. He's too

1915
01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:23,519
Speaker 1: big a star. He's got a stylist. Now, don't let

1916
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Speaker 1: it be Victor Oladipo. He's going on the mass singer

1917
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Speaker 1: and his releasing albums, don't let this film crew ruin

1918
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Speaker 1: Tyre's Halliburton. And then last night I see the sneak

1919
01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:38,840
Speaker 1: peak clip from it of Reggie Miller talking about Tyre's Halliburton,

1920
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Speaker 1: and it is glorious.

1921
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Speaker 5: Look at game six, in Game seven of the NBA Finals,

1922
01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:51,120
Speaker 5: they will never ever be a question of a guy's

1923
01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:57,400
Speaker 5: heart will determination his game. No one will ever second

1924
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Speaker 5: guess any decision that he ever makes. Again, he risked

1925
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Speaker 5: it all.

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Speaker 1: He risked it.

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Speaker 5: All for a franchise, for a state, for an organization.

1928
01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:12,880
Speaker 5: How many guys in life, how many women in life

1929
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Speaker 5: are willing to risk it all, risk it all? That

1930
01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:20,400
Speaker 5: this comes back full circle moment to what's it like

1931
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Speaker 5: to be a Hoosier and to play in Indiana. I'm

1932
01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 5: not playing for myself. I'm playing for that dude, playing

1933
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Speaker 5: for that dude, I'm playing for these people. That's what

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Speaker 5: it's like to be an Indiana Pacers. So thank you, Tyrese.

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Speaker 1: Love it. I absolutely love it, And I think there's

1936
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Speaker 1: a lesson to be said there. Now. When you say

1937
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Speaker 1: risk it all, I mean we obviously hope that Tyress

1938
01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:44,840
Speaker 1: Halliburton is going to come back and as he said,

1939
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Speaker 1: he's going to do everything he can to get back

1940
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Speaker 1: to what he was before, and we don't know how

1941
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Speaker 1: his body's going to respond to that and risk it all.

1942
01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:54,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like it was a life or

1943
01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:57,439
Speaker 1: death situation, but from a career standpoint, it may well

1944
01:49:57,479 --> 01:49:59,639
Speaker 1: have been. But I think there's something to be said,

1945
01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 1: there to be had right now from Reggie Miller and

1946
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 1: that standpoint of the fact that it's not about me,

1947
01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:10,240
Speaker 1: it's about that teammate, and it's about the people of

1948
01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:13,639
Speaker 1: Indiana and being an Indiana pacer. And Reggie Miller, who

1949
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:18,880
Speaker 1: is a global icon, Olympic gold medalist, television analyst, at

1950
01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:24,600
Speaker 1: his core still is an Indiana pacer. And we in

1951
01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:27,759
Speaker 1: Indianapolis can learn from that because we have our differences,

1952
01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 1: and we have our different opinions, and we have our politics,

1953
01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:32,240
Speaker 1: and we have all of those things, but at its core,

1954
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Speaker 1: when it comes down to it, the one thing that

1955
01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:37,320
Speaker 1: intertwines all of us is we're all from the same

1956
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Speaker 1: place and it's Indianapolis. And those guys came here and

1957
01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:45,040
Speaker 1: saw it in us and said I want to be

1958
01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:49,600
Speaker 1: that way too, And that's why those two guys and

1959
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Speaker 1: the story remains to be told on Tyre's Haliburton and

1960
01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:54,920
Speaker 1: where it goes from here. I get that, but I

1961
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Speaker 1: love the fact and will forever love the fact that

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Speaker 1: Reggie Miller gets it. He always got it, and he

1963
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Speaker 1: still gets it, and he passed that torch and that statement,

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Speaker 1: and I'm here for it. Joel Erickson joins us next. Now,

1965
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Speaker 1: I do know me a little bootscot and boogie. I

1966
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Speaker 1: do know this one? Is this Brooks and Done?

1967
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Speaker 2: Yep?

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Speaker 1: What year are we talking in this? Ninety two? Ninety

1969
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:21,560
Speaker 1: one something like that.

1970
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Speaker 2: Oh it's slipping me. I think ninety two.

1971
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:29,760
Speaker 1: When I was in college, I had some buddies that

1972
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 1: were big country music guys. So I certainly know that song.

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Speaker 1: Joining us now, and I'm sure thrilled to be doing so.

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Speaker 1: Based on that introduction on thee the Java House Peel

1975
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Speaker 1: and Port guest line, he is with the Indianapolis Star

1976
01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:42,360
Speaker 1: Colts beat Ryder. You hear him a lot on this

1977
01:51:42,760 --> 01:51:45,960
Speaker 1: radio station. Joela ericson joining us, Joel, let's get to

1978
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Speaker 1: the meat and the matter first, and that is we

1979
01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:52,679
Speaker 1: played it earlier. Shane Steiken talking about from a health standpoint,

1980
01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:56,520
Speaker 1: does it look like other than Kenny Moore. Really, anybody

1981
01:51:56,920 --> 01:52:00,600
Speaker 1: might be making the trip back against the Chargers, but

1982
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Speaker 1: let's begin with that. Kenny Moore, do you expect him

1983
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Speaker 1: to be available on Sunday?

1984
01:52:05,080 --> 01:52:08,360
Speaker 7: You know, he was doing a little bit more than

1985
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 7: I was expecting today at practice, so maybe that's a

1986
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:13,920
Speaker 7: good sign in terms of him. In terms of him

1987
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Speaker 7: being out there, we only see the individual period that

1988
01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:19,080
Speaker 7: they did a little bit of team stuff at the end,

1989
01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:20,680
Speaker 7: and I felt like he was doing some stuff. So

1990
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Speaker 7: maybe maybe that's a good sign for Kenny Moore getting back.

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01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:26,200
Speaker 1: I'd like to know this, who do you think right now?

1992
01:52:28,040 --> 01:52:31,760
Speaker 1: Like Jalen Jones for example. You know, he's a guy

1993
01:52:31,840 --> 01:52:34,240
Speaker 1: that we almost forget about. I hate to say that

1994
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:36,479
Speaker 1: because he's a good player, but you know it's been

1995
01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 1: so long, right, do we have a timetable on Jalen Jones?

1996
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Speaker 1: And then I'll begin with that. I got to follow

1997
01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:44,479
Speaker 1: up timetable on Jalen Jones?

1998
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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? I I asked that and didn't really get much back,

2000
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Speaker 7: which is generally not a good sign in ms of

2001
01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:55,960
Speaker 7: in terms of getting him back, I keep thinking that

2002
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Speaker 7: he's healthy. Jalen Jones is the key for this secondary

2003
01:52:59,560 --> 01:53:02,280
Speaker 7: totally heard so much, but but it just doesn't seem

2004
01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:04,680
Speaker 7: like he must have really got that hamstring pretty good.

2005
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Speaker 1: Okay, so the better question is this healthier or in

2006
01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:15,200
Speaker 1: more pristine shape shape Jalen Jones hamstring right now or

2007
01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 1: Joli ericson last night in the fifth inning of the

2008
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Speaker 1: Brewers Dodgers game.

2009
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Speaker 6: Jalen Jones.

2010
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Speaker 7: Jalen Jones, I was like his his was the hamstring,

2011
01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:29,240
Speaker 7: and me was like the existential realities of baseball.

2012
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Speaker 2: That's where I was.

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Speaker 6: I was in.

2014
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Speaker 7: I was in like the I was I was way

2015
01:53:32,920 --> 01:53:33,360
Speaker 7: too deep.

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Speaker 4: You know.

2017
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Speaker 1: So your Brewers fandom is what on a one to

2018
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Speaker 1: ten scale, I.

2019
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Speaker 7: Think most people would say at ten, Yeah, like I know,

2020
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Speaker 7: I know the guys that they call up for three

2021
01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:52,680
Speaker 7: days and I watch That's That's pretty much what I

2022
01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:55,320
Speaker 7: watched during the summer on TV if if you let me,

2023
01:53:55,760 --> 01:53:58,679
Speaker 7: if my family doesn't have anything else to do, as

2024
01:53:58,880 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 7: like six planes go over head here at the Colts facilities,

2025
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:05,120
Speaker 7: that's that's what I'm watching. I probably watched parts of

2026
01:54:05,240 --> 01:54:07,040
Speaker 7: like one hundred games a year, if we're being honest.

2027
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Speaker 1: But by the way, just so you know, Joel, you

2028
01:54:09,080 --> 01:54:11,000
Speaker 1: ready for me to introduce you to something that your

2029
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:15,920
Speaker 1: life will never again be the same. There's there's an app. Okay,

2030
01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:18,240
Speaker 1: I've got an app on my phone called plane Finder.

2031
01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:20,280
Speaker 1: Are you familiar with plane Finder?

2032
01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:21,519
Speaker 7: I think so.

2033
01:54:21,880 --> 01:54:24,519
Speaker 1: Now it's not as it's not as relevant over there

2034
01:54:24,640 --> 01:54:27,000
Speaker 1: off of Eagle Creek Airport because those are just little

2035
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:30,120
Speaker 1: like crop dust or private planes, those kind of planes.

2036
01:54:30,439 --> 01:54:34,240
Speaker 1: But you know, maybe I'm the only person and I'm

2037
01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:36,440
Speaker 1: going to change the lives of at least one person,

2038
01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:38,480
Speaker 1: the life of at least one person listening right now, Joel,

2039
01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:40,440
Speaker 1: and there's only four listening, so I've got a twenty

2040
01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:44,760
Speaker 1: five percent chancer. So the plane Finder app. Let me

2041
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:46,680
Speaker 1: ask you this, Joel Erickson. Have you ever looked up

2042
01:54:46,720 --> 01:54:48,680
Speaker 1: in the sky and you just see like one like

2043
01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:51,560
Speaker 1: a tracer of a plane, like way up there, and

2044
01:54:51,680 --> 01:54:54,520
Speaker 1: you're just like, I wonder, like where's that plane going?

2045
01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:56,000
Speaker 1: Has that ever happened to you?

2046
01:54:56,760 --> 01:54:56,880
Speaker 4: Oh?

2047
01:54:56,960 --> 01:54:57,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah.

2048
01:54:58,160 --> 01:55:00,920
Speaker 1: So Planefinder is an app that literally you look up

2049
01:55:00,920 --> 01:55:03,040
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh gosh, look right there, and then

2050
01:55:03,080 --> 01:55:05,240
Speaker 1: I play every time, like I see one of those

2051
01:55:05,240 --> 01:55:07,360
Speaker 1: planes up there and I'm like, I wonder where that's going.

2052
01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:09,320
Speaker 1: And then I look it up and I'm like Oh wow,

2053
01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:13,320
Speaker 1: that plane's going from Oakland to Baltimore and it just

2054
01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:16,200
Speaker 1: happens to be flying over Indianapolis right now. And then

2055
01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:18,640
Speaker 1: I envision like there's some you know, somebody out there

2056
01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:21,160
Speaker 1: climbing over somebody to go to the restroom, and you know,

2057
01:55:21,200 --> 01:55:23,920
Speaker 1: they're handing out cokes and whatever else, and it fascinates me. Now,

2058
01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 1: does this make me weird?

2059
01:55:25,920 --> 01:55:28,520
Speaker 7: No, because like you're telling me this, and another another

2060
01:55:28,520 --> 01:55:31,320
Speaker 7: one of these cop dusters goes over. How many of

2061
01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:32,240
Speaker 7: these do they send off?

2062
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:35,200
Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of crops right.

2063
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:39,360
Speaker 7: Uh, it's like the fourth one in like last thirty seconds.

2064
01:55:40,040 --> 01:55:41,920
Speaker 1: They know you're on the radio, right.

2065
01:55:42,600 --> 01:55:45,600
Speaker 7: The thing about this is if you shouldn't have told

2066
01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:49,800
Speaker 7: me about this, because my house in Fishers feels like

2067
01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:53,120
Speaker 7: it's part of one of the I don't know, approach

2068
01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:57,720
Speaker 7: lanes or whatever is the Indianapolis Airports place take over

2069
01:55:57,840 --> 01:55:59,000
Speaker 7: my house all the time.

2070
01:55:58,920 --> 01:56:01,720
Speaker 1: At night at night every because I know this because

2071
01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:04,080
Speaker 1: Shannon's would be right directly in the past. I know

2072
01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:06,200
Speaker 1: where you live. The beer ferry once told me where

2073
01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:08,960
Speaker 1: you live, right, and so I have a general idea

2074
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:11,000
Speaker 1: of the vicinity, and it's the FedEx planes at night

2075
01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it's just one after another after that, right, Yeah?

2076
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:17,240
Speaker 7: Uh okay, yeah, No, they're going, They're going all night.

2077
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:20,680
Speaker 1: Hey, Is this match up with the Chargers the best

2078
01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:22,840
Speaker 1: thing to happen for the Colts to try to reawaken

2079
01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:26,680
Speaker 1: consistency with their pass rush just because of an odd

2080
01:56:26,840 --> 01:56:29,360
Speaker 1: susceptibility on the offensive line of Los Angeles.

2081
01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:33,320
Speaker 7: It depends, I think, on whether or not Joe Alt

2082
01:56:33,560 --> 01:56:35,920
Speaker 7: is back. I have not seen a Chargers practice report

2083
01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:39,240
Speaker 7: today yet, but there was some talk that maybe he

2084
01:56:39,320 --> 01:56:41,720
Speaker 7: could be back from his high ankle spring. He's very good,

2085
01:56:42,560 --> 01:56:43,200
Speaker 7: and I think that.

2086
01:56:43,280 --> 01:56:46,520
Speaker 11: If Joe Alt is back that maybe it's not if

2087
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:49,320
Speaker 11: it's both of those guys out, if it's all and

2088
01:56:49,360 --> 01:56:52,400
Speaker 11: then their swing tackle, his name is Trey Pipkins, was

2089
01:56:52,440 --> 01:56:55,600
Speaker 11: also out last week. If both of those guys are out,

2090
01:56:55,640 --> 01:56:58,280
Speaker 11: I think it is. But if they're back, even if

2091
01:56:58,280 --> 01:57:00,880
Speaker 11: they're compromised, I think that's that's probably better for them.

2092
01:57:01,040 --> 01:57:03,760
Speaker 1: Trey Pipkins sounds like a fictional character in a Beverly

2093
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:08,680
Speaker 1: Cleary kid book, doesn't it. Yes, absolutely, little freckly kid,

2094
01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:11,919
Speaker 1: red hair, but you know what I mean, red addresses

2095
01:57:11,960 --> 01:57:13,840
Speaker 1: like Waldo. Yeah, Trey Pipkins and.

2096
01:57:14,320 --> 01:57:15,919
Speaker 7: His sister's name is Linday Pipkins.

2097
01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:18,720
Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

2098
01:57:19,400 --> 01:57:21,800
Speaker 1: Joel A. Erickson is our guest. He is on the

2099
01:57:21,920 --> 01:57:25,960
Speaker 1: Java House, Peel and poor guest line Joel. The The

2100
01:57:26,080 --> 01:57:32,320
Speaker 1: quarterback situation is one that I'm curious of this point. Obviously,

2101
01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:35,000
Speaker 1: if Daniel Jones we now know, I mean, if Daniel

2102
01:57:35,080 --> 01:57:37,240
Speaker 1: Jones is the guy and so long as he's healthy,

2103
01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:38,320
Speaker 1: he's going to be the guy.

2104
01:57:38,440 --> 01:57:38,840
Speaker 4: We know that.

2105
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:42,720
Speaker 1: But if something were to happen and Riley Leonard gets in,

2106
01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:46,600
Speaker 1: do you believe now that Riley Leonard because there during

2107
01:57:46,680 --> 01:57:51,880
Speaker 1: the time that Anthony Richardson is on injured reserve, does

2108
01:57:52,040 --> 01:57:55,360
Speaker 1: Riley Leonard once Brett Rippen gets up to speed, would

2109
01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:58,000
Speaker 1: he go back to being the backup and Leonard goes

2110
01:57:58,080 --> 01:58:01,040
Speaker 1: back to being the emergency number three? Or is Rylan

2111
01:58:01,120 --> 01:58:04,320
Speaker 1: Leonard potentially within grasp of being able as people have

2112
01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:06,320
Speaker 1: wanted to see what he can do.

2113
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Speaker 7: I I don't know where the Colt's standing on this,

2114
01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:15,600
Speaker 7: but I kind of think that the right thing to

2115
01:58:15,680 --> 01:58:17,720
Speaker 7: do in this situation might be to just go with

2116
01:58:17,880 --> 01:58:21,600
Speaker 7: Riley Leonard as the backup. Brett Rippin is a guy

2117
01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:24,040
Speaker 7: who's he's obviously he's He's been around the league a lot,

2118
01:58:24,560 --> 01:58:26,680
Speaker 7: but he hasn't really started a game in a couple

2119
01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:29,160
Speaker 7: of years now. Uh, the last time he started was

2120
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:30,840
Speaker 7: a one off with the Rams. I think the Rams

2121
01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:33,640
Speaker 7: had to go out and get somebody after after that one.

2122
01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:37,440
Speaker 7: He's he was available for a reason. That that's that

2123
01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:39,520
Speaker 7: was the biggest thing with this Richardson injury was just

2124
01:58:40,160 --> 01:58:43,480
Speaker 7: your options were not very good. Taylor Heineke is out

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Speaker 7: there somewhere. I don't know if Taylor Heidikey is looking

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Speaker 7: for like a big like season ending injury to jump

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Speaker 7: in somewhere or whatever. But outside of Heinike, most of

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Speaker 7: the names were kind of guys like this who are

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Speaker 7: kind of been, you know, number threes in the NFL.

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Speaker 7: And I think if you're looking at it as this

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Speaker 7: guy's a number three in the I think you just

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Speaker 7: go with Leonard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And in addition that Leonard's a guy that you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have for a while, right as opposed to you

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01:59:07,800 --> 01:59:09,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, he's not a rental, So

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Speaker 1: you might as well see what you have there and

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01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:12,960
Speaker 1: then see if you grow from it. I mean that

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Speaker 1: would that would make sense?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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01:59:14,360 --> 01:59:15,520
Speaker 1: Otherwise, why is he on the roster.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, like they they brought him in developmental, like

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01:59:20,240 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 7: he's he's a developmental guy that they hope turned into

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01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:24,760
Speaker 7: a backup. Well, you might as well jump start it

2144
01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:28,720
Speaker 7: because you don't have a backup who you clearly think

2145
01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:31,200
Speaker 7: is ahead of him. At least I don't think so

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01:59:31,360 --> 01:59:33,560
Speaker 7: at this point. Now the Colts might see it differently.

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Speaker 7: They might feel like you need the experience, depending on

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01:59:35,680 --> 01:59:38,520
Speaker 7: the matchup or whatever. I think everyone in you know

2149
01:59:38,600 --> 01:59:40,480
Speaker 7: over here is probably just hoping that Daniel Jones doesn't

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Speaker 7: get hurt. But you know, I think that if it

2151
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Speaker 7: was me, just thinking about where they're at, I might

2152
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Speaker 7: just stick with Riley Leonard.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of progress, how would you assess leatu Latu?

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Speaker 7: I he's he's he's not doing He's struggling, He's not

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01:59:55,320 --> 01:59:58,000
Speaker 7: doing enough. I felt, I feel like we saw the

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01:59:58,080 --> 02:00:00,400
Speaker 7: Rams game. He looked great in the Rams game. That's

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Speaker 7: really been the only game this year where we've I've

2158
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Speaker 7: felt him as a as a difference making presence that

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Speaker 7: he has to be off the edge. You know, they

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Speaker 7: they had some some quarterback hits last week, but I

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Speaker 7: feel like most of those were because Jacoby Brissett holds

2162
02:00:18,240 --> 02:00:20,320
Speaker 7: the ball because he's unafraid of getting hit. He just

2163
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Speaker 7: takes it. And yeah, they needed lot to and they

2164
02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:27,720
Speaker 7: still need a lot to for this defense to really

2165
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Speaker 7: have a shot with the corner, the cornerback situation the

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Speaker 7: way it is like, he really has to be a

2167
02:00:32,640 --> 02:00:35,160
Speaker 7: big time player off the edge. It just hasn't been

2168
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Speaker 7: consistent enough. I think it's it's it's imperative though, because

2169
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Speaker 7: DeForest Butner is basically facing a guard in a center

2170
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Speaker 7: or a guarden a tackle every time he rushes. So

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Speaker 7: at some point somebody else needs to become a difference maker.

2172
02:00:49,480 --> 02:00:51,400
Speaker 7: Lot two seems like the best one. He just hasn't

2173
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Speaker 7: really been that so far.

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Speaker 1: It is partially because of Joli Erickson as our guest

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Speaker 1: from the Indianapolis Star. He's on the Java House Peel

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Speaker 1: and Board guest line. It is partially because because of

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Speaker 1: the health of players in front of him, and perhaps

2178
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Speaker 1: partially still a hangover from the mistakes that he has made.

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Speaker 1: But Joel, what is it going to take to get

2180
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Speaker 1: Adie Mitchell back on the field regularly?

2181
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's interesting. It's interesting to me to see

2182
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Speaker 7: that they made him, you know, inactive, and I think

2183
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Speaker 7: it's some of the stuff that's hard for us to see.

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Speaker 7: It's the behind the scenes stuff. It's probably a lot

2185
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Speaker 7: of practice stuff that we don't get to see because

2186
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Speaker 7: you know, we go to practice, we only go to

2187
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Speaker 7: the first twenty minutes before they do any of the

2188
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Speaker 7: real stuff. So I think I think that's a big

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Speaker 7: part of it. It's going to be some of that

2190
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Speaker 7: stuff that we don't necessarily get to see or have

2191
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Speaker 7: like a pandle on, but it is. It's very interesting

2192
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Speaker 7: that they made him inactive last week after benching in

2193
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Speaker 7: the previous week.

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Speaker 1: Okay, most importantly, are you resigned to the fact that

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Speaker 1: the Brewers at this point are you just hoping nonsweep

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Speaker 1: or are you like, no, listen, they they had a

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Speaker 1: great year, best record in baseball. I think for the

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Speaker 1: bats majority party of it. They can now turn it

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Speaker 1: on they you know they if I'm not mistaken, this year,

2200
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Speaker 1: the Brewers had six different fifteen game win streaks, right, So, like,

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Speaker 1: what the hell's what's with four?

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Speaker 2: Right?

2203
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Speaker 1: It it?

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Speaker 7: I am somebody who knows as a big baseball fan,

2205
02:02:17,200 --> 02:02:19,960
Speaker 7: I am somebody who knows all of the precedents and

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Speaker 7: teams that go down two oh when they were playing

2207
02:02:23,160 --> 02:02:26,120
Speaker 7: at home are like twenty four of twenty seven or

2208
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Speaker 7: something like that in Major League history and in terms

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Speaker 7: of not being able to come back. So I am

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Speaker 7: just in the spot where I'm like, well, they need

2211
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Speaker 7: a miracle. That's that's where we're at. We need a

2212
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Speaker 7: miraculous thing to get in the World Series. I would

2213
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Speaker 7: like to see them not swing at every pitch at

2214
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Speaker 7: the Dodgers starters rows in Games three, in Games four,

2215
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Speaker 7: but you know, we'll see where it goes.

2216
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Speaker 1: Well, do you remember the song Joel? In conclusion? Do

2217
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Speaker 1: you remember the song I'm a terrible singer. Okay, all

2218
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Speaker 1: I need is a miracle?

2219
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Speaker 2: Do you know that song?

2220
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Speaker 1: All I need is a miracle all I need? Do

2221
02:03:00,080 --> 02:03:01,160
Speaker 1: you know who sings that song?

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Speaker 6: I do not.

2223
02:03:02,840 --> 02:03:04,800
Speaker 1: That is I believe Mike and the Mechanics, And if

2224
02:03:04,880 --> 02:03:07,360
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, I could be totally wrong in this,

2225
02:03:07,640 --> 02:03:10,280
Speaker 1: but I'm looking it up right now. Mike Ruththerford of

2226
02:03:10,360 --> 02:03:13,080
Speaker 1: Mike and the Mechanics, even though he is British. I

2227
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Speaker 1: believe at some point, I don't know why I'm thinking this,

2228
02:03:15,520 --> 02:03:17,680
Speaker 1: at some point I think he lived in Milwaukee. If not,

2229
02:03:17,800 --> 02:03:19,520
Speaker 1: then we're going to claim that he did and therefore

2230
02:03:19,560 --> 02:03:20,640
Speaker 1: that's good news for the Brewers.

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Speaker 7: Well, I I hope. So the only the only shred

2232
02:03:24,920 --> 02:03:26,760
Speaker 7: of hope I have left is that I have thought

2233
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Speaker 7: that this team was done like six times this year.

2234
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Speaker 7: But but this time, this time, the history is on

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Speaker 7: my side. I don't know if the other times it

2236
02:03:35,960 --> 02:03:38,400
Speaker 7: was or it was just me being semistic, but this

2237
02:03:38,560 --> 02:03:41,280
Speaker 7: time the history is on my side. That that it's

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Speaker 7: it's gonna take. It's gonna take a miracle to get

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Speaker 7: into the World Series.

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Speaker 1: You know, if they don't make the World Series, then

2241
02:03:47,200 --> 02:03:49,600
Speaker 1: what you can do is download the plane Finder app

2242
02:03:49,680 --> 02:03:52,040
Speaker 1: and just sit out in the backyard and mesmerize yourself.

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Speaker 6: Laugh.

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02:03:53,920 --> 02:03:56,160
Speaker 7: That's not a bad idea. That's that's not a bad idea.

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Speaker 11: You laugh.

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02:03:56,920 --> 02:03:58,480
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, I'm going to get a text

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02:03:58,520 --> 02:03:59,760
Speaker 1: for you one of these days. It just says, by

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02:03:59,760 --> 02:04:03,480
Speaker 1: the way LaGuardia to Albuquerque and for some reason, right

2249
02:04:03,520 --> 02:04:06,520
Speaker 1: over my house. It's fascinating. I just chanced her.

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Speaker 7: That's not a bad idea, because I was. I was

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02:04:08,680 --> 02:04:10,160
Speaker 7: thinking about it the other day. I was like, you know,

2252
02:04:10,240 --> 02:04:12,880
Speaker 7: I normally watched the World Series, but I'm really not

2253
02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:15,840
Speaker 7: gonna want to if it's the Dodgers versus somebody. Maybe

2254
02:04:15,880 --> 02:04:17,520
Speaker 7: I'll just turn it on and go outside and just

2255
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Speaker 7: kind of look at plane finder for a while.

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Speaker 1: There you go on, I'm telling you, I'm telling you

2257
02:04:21,360 --> 02:04:24,200
Speaker 1: what like you and you and the character Tyler Pipkin

2258
02:04:24,320 --> 02:04:25,840
Speaker 1: or whatever his name is. I can just sit around

2259
02:04:26,200 --> 02:04:28,840
Speaker 1: in your little fictional book, all right, Joel, appreciate the

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Speaker 1: time as always.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: We'll let you get back to work.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you bet.

2264
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Speaker 1: Thanks having Joel a Ericson joining us on the program.

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Speaker 1: We'll come back. It is the crossover. We'll find out

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Speaker 1: what JMV has lined up for his big show, which

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Speaker 1: gets underway at just about sixteen minutes. Crossover, of course,

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Speaker 1: twenty one forty one. Big show today. I appreciate everybody

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Speaker 1: that participated, chimed in. I think tomorrow what I need

2273
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Speaker 1: to do a better job, and it's it's sometimes it's

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Speaker 1: tough because I know JMV does it a lot. Is

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Speaker 1: incorporate the text line. I need to get into that

2276
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Speaker 1: a little more and read some of your reactions, including

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Speaker 1: you know, for that matter, the bad. Not everybody that

2278
02:05:15,240 --> 02:05:18,920
Speaker 1: writes in or sends me stuff is a fan. Believe

2279
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Speaker 1: you me. I see it all, but probably should do

2280
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Speaker 1: that tomorrow. Get into that a little bit. Ralphreef really

2281
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Speaker 1: appreciate his time earlier and those of you that reached

2282
02:05:27,960 --> 02:05:29,640
Speaker 1: out to say that you enjoyed hearing him. I think

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Speaker 1: he does do an outstanding job of assessing injuries, but

2284
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Speaker 1: doing so for people like myself to understand, because you know,

2285
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Speaker 1: I'm not the sharpest toold, the sharpest knife for the drawer,

2286
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Speaker 1: whichever way you want to say it. Chris Ditto, I

2287
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Speaker 1: thought it was great when he said, you know, look,

2288
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Speaker 1: I'm finally now able to again wear stuff that say

2289
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Speaker 1: that I played football at Indiana and be proud of it,

2290
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Speaker 1: which was cool. And then of course coach Karris Joel

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Speaker 1: ericson so Loaded Show today JMV has arrived a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun yesterday as soon A.

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Speaker 8: Great time yesterday, buddy, great time of bearingers, beringers, South Meridian.

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Speaker 1: A lot of honking going on. I heard the hawking.

2295
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Speaker 4: A lot of.

2296
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Speaker 8: Horningness evidently with the hanking if your horny stuff happening

2297
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Speaker 8: right there, is awesome. Man, I love it robbing again

2298
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Speaker 8: down there, Jake, just do a great job. Hey tomorrow Westfield,

2299
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Speaker 8: Joe's Grill, yastybourbon locks, loon Isilt, tequila shots and a

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Speaker 8: lamporium Friday in Castleton.

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Speaker 1: Let's find up on your big show for today.

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Speaker 8: Dan Wetzel is going to go over all you football

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Speaker 8: as you talked to Ditto about a little bit earlier,

2304
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Speaker 8: and probably some signetti stuff. And you know, college football landscape,

2305
02:06:36,760 --> 02:06:42,000
Speaker 8: look is, things are evolving and changing, and I used

2306
02:06:42,040 --> 02:06:45,920
Speaker 8: taking advantage of those changes right now. If you can

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Speaker 8: generate the revenue and you offer that cash out, they're

2308
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Speaker 8: going to come. So I mean, it's not the old

2309
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Speaker 8: school days any longer. It does make you wonder John,

2310
02:06:55,600 --> 02:07:01,880
Speaker 8: you know, could could signetti? Could he be doing this

2311
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Speaker 8: in two thousand and five?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I mean just I think

2313
02:07:05,760 --> 02:07:07,880
Speaker 1: he would be a good coach then, just like he

2314
02:07:08,040 --> 02:07:09,920
Speaker 1: is right now. But I think it's almost like it

2315
02:07:10,000 --> 02:07:11,240
Speaker 1: was all the perfect storm, right.

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Speaker 8: I think the landscape certainly has changed to where it's

2317
02:07:15,000 --> 02:07:17,960
Speaker 8: more viable for a team, a program like you if

2318
02:07:18,040 --> 02:07:20,360
Speaker 8: you have some funding to get things going.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it, but it it is still surreal

2320
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Speaker 1: to me. As we've talked about the fact that, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, we played Robert Griffin. The third said, look,

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Speaker 1: they're the best team in college football. They're the best

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Speaker 1: team in the country right now. They certainly have. I

2324
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Speaker 1: think it's indisputable they have the most impressive win, right Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean that went over Oregon and that's impressive.

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Speaker 8: And then you look at it with Matt Painter and

2327
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Speaker 8: Purdue basketball to where it's kind of like old school

2328
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Speaker 8: bringing me. I know that they're getting paid too, and

2329
02:07:47,960 --> 02:07:50,000
Speaker 8: I know that Brandon gets paid and the other stars

2330
02:07:50,040 --> 02:07:52,200
Speaker 8: get paid and all that, but it's still guys that

2331
02:07:52,280 --> 02:07:55,760
Speaker 8: have been within the program more so than really anything else.

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Speaker 8: I think this is like the first offseason where Matt

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Speaker 8: has actually gone in significiquately more meeting a couple into

2334
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Speaker 8: the transfer port yeah, but still trying to go by

2335
02:08:06,160 --> 02:08:08,720
Speaker 8: what he believes in bringing guys in there that actually

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Speaker 8: care about us around him.

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Speaker 1: And it makes you wonder with the way that they

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Speaker 1: do it. You know, it's interesting because you have the

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Speaker 1: Indiana football side of things, which is using to their

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02:08:19,880 --> 02:08:21,680
Speaker 1: benefit to an extent, you know, the portal and the

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02:08:21,800 --> 02:08:25,160
Speaker 1: nil to their advantage, and then the produce side that

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02:08:25,520 --> 02:08:27,960
Speaker 1: from a basketball standpoint, to your point, John has really

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02:08:28,080 --> 02:08:30,160
Speaker 1: kind of bucked it to this point and managed to

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02:08:30,240 --> 02:08:31,800
Speaker 1: not fall victim to it. But you wonder how long

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Speaker 1: that's going to last?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that we saw some evolution of thinking

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Speaker 1: this year, did we?

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Speaker 9: Not?

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02:08:37,640 --> 02:08:40,080
Speaker 1: With Matt? I mean a couple of guys. Yeah, I

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02:08:40,120 --> 02:08:42,440
Speaker 1: mean you have to what do they say? But it's

2352
02:08:42,840 --> 02:08:45,720
Speaker 1: still not the like and yet they did go out

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02:08:46,000 --> 02:08:49,080
Speaker 1: and shore up some areas, but their core still in

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Speaker 1: that three. I think the bigger thing that's impressive is

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Speaker 1: that they didn't lose anybody to that. I mean, let

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02:08:54,560 --> 02:08:56,080
Speaker 1: me take that back. I mean, Miles Colvin's you know,

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02:08:56,320 --> 02:08:58,760
Speaker 1: really good player. But I'm saying, you know that of

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02:08:58,920 --> 02:09:01,400
Speaker 1: their big three, the fact that none of those guys,

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02:09:01,480 --> 02:09:02,960
Speaker 1: that all of those guys were willing to come back

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02:09:03,080 --> 02:09:05,640
Speaker 1: is impressive. What did Cole? I forgot where Colvin went

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02:09:05,640 --> 02:09:07,800
Speaker 1: Wake Wake Forest? Is that right?

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02:09:07,880 --> 02:09:08,480
Speaker 2: Did he go to Wake?

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02:09:08,520 --> 02:09:10,800
Speaker 1: I think it's Wake Forest? Yeah, that is where he

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02:09:10,920 --> 02:09:11,240
Speaker 1: ended up.

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Speaker 8: But uh, nonetheless, more one and more playing time. I

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02:09:15,400 --> 02:09:17,480
Speaker 8: still love the Matt philosophy as well. I mean, you

2367
02:09:17,560 --> 02:09:19,720
Speaker 8: get more playing time if you played good enough.

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Speaker 1: To deserve that.

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Speaker 8: Playing time, right, I mean, they're not playing any favorites here.

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Speaker 8: We are playing the guys that are playing well and

2371
02:09:28,080 --> 02:09:29,240
Speaker 8: earned the plane.

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Speaker 1: Hey, did you.

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Speaker 8: Use how much time we have? Corbe we got a run?

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02:09:32,680 --> 02:09:34,680
Speaker 8: We could say this for another day, save.

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Speaker 2: It for another day.

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Speaker 8: So did you see there was a back and forth

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02:09:39,320 --> 02:09:41,720
Speaker 8: that Dustin de Pirac had who covers the pacers?

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Speaker 1: Betweent? Uh?

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02:09:43,400 --> 02:09:45,920
Speaker 8: I think it was Bowen was in there too, where

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02:09:46,080 --> 02:09:50,080
Speaker 8: once upon a time those guys played like the staff

2381
02:09:50,480 --> 02:09:53,960
Speaker 8: of IU and a pickup basketball game. Did you see

2382
02:09:54,000 --> 02:09:55,320
Speaker 8: that a little bit earlier today?

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Speaker 1: Which guys you're saying, well the pillar? I think they

2384
02:09:59,200 --> 02:10:00,000
Speaker 1: were all EU guys.

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Speaker 8: I think it was Bowen to Puak, Tony and Ragna

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02:10:04,840 --> 02:10:07,320
Speaker 8: who who does some good stuff too and is still

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02:10:07,360 --> 02:10:09,800
Speaker 8: around at least the last time. I think, is he

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02:10:10,120 --> 02:10:12,720
Speaker 8: the head coach now with Greenwood? Christian is Tony?

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Speaker 1: Is that where he was?

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Speaker 8: I think he's a coach now or he should be

2391
02:10:15,960 --> 02:10:17,640
Speaker 8: a coach because he's a very knowledgeable dude.

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02:10:17,680 --> 02:10:18,120
Speaker 2: Good dude.

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Speaker 8: But uh, I kind of had mentioned it'd be great

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Speaker 8: if we could round up some dudes in the media

2395
02:10:23,720 --> 02:10:27,200
Speaker 8: and play the Pacer staff now that'd probably be more

2396
02:10:27,200 --> 02:10:29,160
Speaker 8: difficult to trying to get somebody on the air for me.

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02:10:29,360 --> 02:10:32,600
Speaker 1: But now that he who would be the best player

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02:10:32,640 --> 02:10:34,640
Speaker 1: in the Pacer staff Pargo?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Probably, I mean you can and can play right? Huh,

2401
02:10:39,920 --> 02:10:42,000
Speaker 1: Ryan Carr can shoot? You can't you can?

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Speaker 8: I try to get Buchanan out of me all the time,

2403
02:10:43,680 --> 02:10:45,520
Speaker 8: and he always says, well, I'm afraid I'm gonna get hurt.

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Speaker 1: I mean, nobody's gonna hurt.

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02:10:47,720 --> 02:10:51,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, listen, I could, I would deal with. I feel

2406
02:10:51,200 --> 02:10:54,120
Speaker 8: comfortable in playing Ryan Carr. I love Ryan Carr, but

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02:10:54,160 --> 02:10:56,520
Speaker 8: I feel comfortable in playing Ryan Carr and you can

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02:10:56,640 --> 02:10:57,280
Speaker 8: it for that matter.

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02:10:57,400 --> 02:10:58,840
Speaker 2: But uh, Pargo may be.

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02:10:58,880 --> 02:11:00,920
Speaker 1: A different story. I mean, Carl can Pie still play?

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02:11:01,280 --> 02:11:04,120
Speaker 8: Pargo will be a story. There's some on that bench

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02:11:04,200 --> 02:11:08,040
Speaker 8: and on that staff that probably can play a little

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02:11:08,040 --> 02:11:10,920
Speaker 8: bit too. Jenny better than all of us about how

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Speaker 8: about Jenny. Jenny probably can play right. So I would

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Speaker 8: like to do that sometime. So put that on the

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02:11:18,640 --> 02:11:20,800
Speaker 8: list with trying to get a player on my show,

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02:11:20,960 --> 02:11:23,800
Speaker 8: with maybe getting together with those guys and having a

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Speaker 8: pickup game sometime.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll write that down.

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Speaker 7: The list.

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Speaker 1: You win the pickup game, you get a player on

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Speaker 1: Great Wow. I'm gonna go out there and play hard.

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Speaker 1: Then J and V's up next. We will be back

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Speaker 1: with you at noon tomorrow, and I thank you for

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Speaker 1: listening to Quarying Company.