1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: Live from the Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: Tony Kats today. 3 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 2: There are no deals to be made, not with the 4 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: Ayah Toola, not for a second. There's no deal to 5 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 2: be made with this terrorist. Maybe the deal is you 6 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: get to leave Iran alive while you rot forever in 7 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: a jail cell or Moscow, which I wouldn't even know 8 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: how you would describe the difference at this stage of 9 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: the game. Tony Kats, Tony Kats today, Good to be here, 10 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 2: good to be with You find everything at Tony kats 11 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: dot com, live streaming YouTube dot com, slash Tony Kats, 12 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: get into the chat room. I mean there there's a 13 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: fair amount of madness that has been going on, including 14 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: from the good people at the Golden Globes who are 15 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: just so absolutely and vehemently full of themselves. 16 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: Hey, producer land and finger on the dumb button ten 17 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: years ago. You know, since we've had COVID, I believe 18 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: we're a dictatorship now. 19 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 2: And ha, you schmuck in what dictatorship? Jud Director Judd Apatow, 20 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: do you get to put on a tux, go to 21 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: an event and say, without any prompting from a government official, 22 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: I believe we're in a dictatorship now, a lot of 23 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: stupidity and there's no end in sight, and they think 24 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: themselves so pious. 25 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 3: But let's stick with a ran on what's going on. 26 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: Because none of these Golden Globe winners or nominees or 27 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: anybody else thought for a second thought for a second 28 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: that they should say, hey, maybe we support the people 29 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: of Iran, and maybe it'd be great if they were 30 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: actually able to get their freedom and put an end 31 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: to this horrible Islamic regime that is led by this 32 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: murderous Ayatola. 33 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be the very very best thing. 34 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: The answer is yes, The answer is undoubtedly, undoubtedly yes. 35 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: But that did not happen. 36 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: Right now in Iran, you have potentially ten thousand detained, 37 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: more than five hundred dead. 38 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: Now these are still the numbers. 39 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 2: I did some checking before the show began, and we're 40 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: still in this idea of five hundred. 41 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 3: I have to assume that the number of dead. 42 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: Is more than five hundred, and I have to assume 43 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 2: the numbers of those who have been. 44 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 3: Taken by the. 45 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 2: By the regime is more than ten thousand. And there's 46 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: been talk about putting these ten thousand people to death. 47 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: I don't know what's gonna happen. Part of the issue 48 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 2: is that we're not getting great reporting out of Iran now. 49 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: Elon Musk did organize starlink to be able to be 50 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: available because the Iranian regime shut down the Internet and 51 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: the only thing they left playing was like Tucker Carlson Interviews, 52 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 2: I swear to you that's a true story. This all 53 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: because the Iranians see the moment of not having to 54 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: live in this hellscape that they have lived in for 55 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: all of these years, and it is what it is. 56 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: Nobody wants to live under an Islamic regime. Who isn't 57 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: a radicalized Islamist hell bent on subjugating or killing anybody 58 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: who disagrees with them. I don't even take it the 59 00:03:55,080 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: way others have in the social media places that what 60 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: we're seeing is the Iranian people say we don't want Islam. 61 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: I'm not one hundred percent sure that's what's being said. 62 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: What they're saying is we don't want the regime, we 63 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: don't want the control. We want to have our lives back, 64 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: we want to be able to engage in trade, we 65 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: want to end the sanctions. Dear Lord, we want a 66 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: better life, and this guy can't give it. 67 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 3: We live in hell. 68 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 2: Nineteen hundred people executed because what they showed their hair. 69 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 3: Women showed their hair. 70 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: By the way, where are the feminists in Hollywood to 71 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 2: support these women who are being abused. The women of 72 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: Iran are taking photos of the iatola, lighting them on 73 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 2: fire and lighting their cigarettes. It's so freaking hot, I 74 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: don't even know what to say that. By the way, 75 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: that's the calendar hot Iranian chicks smoking cigarettes? Is the 76 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: calendar Iranian chicks for freedom? Just twelve months of Iranian 77 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: chicks lighting their cigus. 78 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: Let's yes more of that please. 79 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: They are more brave than any of these liberal women in. 80 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 3: Hollywood who think that they're brave. 81 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: Bravery is a woman in Iran lighting a cigarette with 82 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,799 Speaker 2: a picture of the Ayatola, Not Wanda Sykes. 83 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 3: Wanda, you're not brave. You've never been brave. 84 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 2: No, I shouldn't say never never, because I don't know 85 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: your total history. But compared to these women in Iran, 86 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: you're not brave. You want to yell at ice agents 87 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 2: for the death of Renee Good. She blocked traffic, she 88 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 2: didn't listen to officers, and she rammed one she didn't 89 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 2: think about her six year old. 90 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: Nobody wanted her dead. But let's put some blame where 91 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 3: it belongs. Wanda. What else did want to Pike say 92 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: at the Golden Globes? 93 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: People are upset that a queer black woman was taking 94 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: the job at two mediocre white guys. 95 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: It's not even funny, not even funny. And who cares 96 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 3: that you're gay? 97 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 2: Those days are over. Maybe someone cared twenty years ago. 98 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: No one cares today. The only thing they do when 99 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: they see you is wonder does she still. 100 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 3: Have a career? Really? Huh? You think she'd love the country? 101 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 2: And that says you could be black and gay and 102 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 2: still have a career and make millions. But I guess 103 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 2: not for Wanda Sykes, the women of Iran or Brave Wanda, 104 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 2: You're not. 105 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: The people are close now. 106 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 2: We've been through this before. We have been through before that. 107 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 2: They have gone down this road an attempt to secure 108 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 2: their freedom, and it has not been successful. 109 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 3: It has gotten close and then gone nowhere. 110 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: And part of the issue has been the total lack 111 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 2: of support that has existed from American leadership. That seems 112 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: to have changed. You've got Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State. 113 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: You have President Trump who have come out to say 114 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: in social media posts that they support the people of Iranda, 115 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: that they want the Iranians to be free, and we 116 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 2: are going to support them. 117 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 3: I'm overjoyed to see it. 118 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: It's about time that we have seen it, and it 119 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: makes a huge difference. That's why when President Trump was 120 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: going through this thing of making a deal with the Iranians, 121 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what he means, because there's no deal 122 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: that can be made that keeps the Ayatola and the 123 00:07:54,320 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: regime and power that could satisfy. 124 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 3: Just so we're all. 125 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: Clear that that doesn't work, that dog won't hunt, the 126 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: regime has to go. And this could be taken into 127 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: a bit of a larger context, and my conversation with 128 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 2: Noah Rothman last week, I got a couple of really 129 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: good responses to that from you guys, and I appreciate it. 130 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: And if I was to. 131 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: Surmise, it would be, you know, regime change doesn't always 132 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: happen all at once. 133 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 3: It was a legitimate argument, a valuable argument that what we. 134 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 2: What we see is in the taking in Maduro is 135 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: nothing more than a step one. There could be a 136 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: step two and a step three that leads to the 137 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 2: eradication of the full Maduro regime, because the regime is 138 00:08:55,720 --> 00:09:00,079 Speaker 2: not just one person, it's all the connective tissue. 139 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 3: And you still have. 140 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: What's her name, Delsea Rodriguez and others in power who 141 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: can't be in power if you want the Venezuelans to 142 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: have a better life, right, And then you'll get comments 143 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: like this one that's because you're a short sighted I 144 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: think they meant sighted even. 145 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 3: Though I spelled the rug. Stupid idiot. 146 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 2: You're not in the White House knowing what's going on, 147 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: like President Trump. Wake up, honey, get your head out 148 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: of your oh mind. 149 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't think you could say that on radio. 150 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 2: You think it's wrong for me to say out loud 151 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 2: that the president should never make a deal with the 152 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: iotola that allows the istotal to stay in power. I 153 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: think that is more than acceptable to do because President 154 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: Trump is a transactional guy. 155 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 3: Here, allow me to educate you now. I'm only hoping 156 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 3: wait is your name? 157 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I only hope that you're a woman, so you 158 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: can accuse me of man's plaining, because that's exactly what 159 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 2: I'm doing. I'm a man, and I explain things. President 160 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: Trump is already trying to work out deals with Venezuela, 161 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: and they'll sell the oil here, and they'll do this 162 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 2: over there, and one hundred billion dollars in investments coming 163 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: from oil companies. President Trump is a very transactional guy. 164 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 3: I don't say that as a negative. 165 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: I'm fully aware of what it is that I voted 166 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: for three times. 167 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 3: So settle yourself down, Connie. And being a transactional guy, 168 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 3: he sees, all. 169 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: Right, I got rid of the threat. Now I'm able 170 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: to make a deal here. That's good enough. That's his methodology. 171 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: What I believe that we should be doing is making 172 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: sure he is fully aware that that methodology has to 173 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 2: include the removal of the Maduro regime to get a 174 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 2: better end result long term. I don't think there's anything 175 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: wrong with me being part of the people saying that. 176 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: Only a weirdo would think. No, you can't say anything. 177 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: You just gotta let Trump cook. What are you talking about, Oh, 178 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 2: you didn't serve in the military. You're not allowed to 179 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 2: say anything. What kind of ridiculousness. No deal can be 180 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: made with the Iatola that doesn't involve the Iyatola giving 181 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: up power in Iran and the people actually engaging an 182 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 2: election and allowing themselves to be free of this Islamist yoke. 183 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 3: I said it, I said it, I meant it. My 184 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 3: name's Tony. 185 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 2: Katz, and I don't really care if other people are 186 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: happy with it. Agreed, disagree, engage. But you think there's 187 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: anything that could be done, any deal they can be 188 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: made that keeps the Ietola in power. And my fear 189 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: is with Trump anything as possible. The two rules of 190 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: Trumpism are as follows the first rule of trump Ism 191 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 2: as Trump wins. The second rule of trump Ism is 192 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 2: that a deal can always be made as long as 193 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: it adheres to the first rule of trump Ism. Why 194 00:11:52,960 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 2: would anyone argue these points with me? I understand the 195 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: limitations of the president, and therefore I want to be 196 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: somebody who pushes for a larger scale conversation to push 197 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: him to doing even more. I'm doing exactly exactly what 198 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 2: I believe the citizenry should do. 199 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 3: I voted for the man. Don't forget to do this. 200 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 3: You can't say that about President Trump. He's a genius. 201 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 3: He's playing five D chess. No, No, we will make 202 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 3: my voice heard, Gonna make my voice known. Of course. Absolutely, 203 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: of course there are great things happening. 204 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: And I loved that he and Marco Rubio put that 205 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: out because this was, this was everything that didn't occur 206 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 2: the last time we got close, which was during the 207 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: hour of Spring Green Revolution. 208 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 3: And Barack Obama did nothing. 209 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: Man, what did he have to do, What did he 210 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 2: have to do except to say, I support the people 211 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: of Iran, I want them to be free. 212 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 3: And when they. 213 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: Remove this this yoke around their neck again I use 214 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 2: the word yoke, the United States will be there to 215 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: shake their hand and say welcome friend and engage in 216 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 2: trade immediately. We look forward to the days of a 217 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: free Iran. And I think Trump should say, make Iran 218 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: Persia again. It's mipa, make Iran Persia again in in 219 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: my in my lifetime, if you will. Since the overtaking 220 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: by the Eye tooler, I've never seen it this close. 221 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: I've never seen the opportunity this right there. I've never 222 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: seen the people engaged in such levels of braver in 223 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: such levels of defiance, seeing their moments and their opportunity, 224 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: and I want them to have it. I want them 225 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 2: to get it, every single step of it. So good 226 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: on the President and good on Marco Rubio for saying so, now, 227 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: let's make sure that any deal involves the iatola being 228 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: gone and the people being free. And let's note that Hollywood, 229 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: for all they're caring about the poor Palestinians, I don't 230 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: care about the Iranians at all, which makes you think 231 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: it wasn't ever about the Palestinians to begin with, which 232 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: is of course the story. 233 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: This is Tony Katz today