1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: It's the Hammery Nigel Show. My name is Nigel, the 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: gun guy. 3 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 2: Guy Ralford filling in for Hammer Colts killed the Raiders 4 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 2: yesterday forty to six killed me on that over too. 5 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk to you about that. At some point. 6 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 2: We got Kevin Bowen here on the WIBC Hotline. Kevin 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 2: Bowen from the Fan Morning Show. I so much to 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: talk about from yesterday's game, KB, But did you have 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: Mark Sanchez getting stabbed and then actually being arrested after 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: the stabbing on your bingo card for this weekend? 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 3: I can't say I did. It's it's I guess not funny. 12 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 3: But someone text me on Saturday They're like, hey, man, 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: you're about ready to see a headline says Mark Sanchez 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 3: got stabbed and he's the suspect. And I'm like, what, Yeah, 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 3: I don't. I guess you take the guy out and 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 3: take the boy out of USC, but you can't take 17 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 3: the USC out of the boy. Maybe. 18 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: Well. 19 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: I look, here's my question for you in your morning 20 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: show this morning, what was the audience You take a 21 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: lot more phone calls than we do on our program. 22 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: What did the audience want to talk about more the 23 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts or the incident with Mark Sanchez. 24 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean definitely a little bit of all. I'd say, 25 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 3: you know, give Colts fans credit, give football fans credit. 26 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: As salacious of a headline as that is, I think 27 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 3: they wanted to talk about their football team, and honestly, 28 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: we're talking about a Colts team that you know, is 29 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 3: doing things we haven't seen quite some time. But still 30 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: we had to sprinkle in a little Sanchez definitely throughout 31 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: because that story is again it's it's incredible, and honestly, 32 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: at this point, I just need video of them, yeah, 33 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 3: printing down the alley. I think that's about the only 34 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 3: thing missing from this story so far. 35 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: So so bizarre. 36 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: We're covering it here on our radio station extensively with 37 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: updates from Guy Ralford, who is a criminal defense attorney too. 38 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: So forty to six I had the over, It was 39 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: like forty seven and a half. Who robbed me of 40 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: those two points? 41 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: What play? Rod? 42 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: Was the Was it the holding call with the special teams? 43 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: Ran it back with the Colts teams? 44 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: Was that it? Do you think that was it? 45 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? That was probably the one, because you know, I 46 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: think it was a whole but it wasn't really near 47 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 3: the kicker turn for the touchdown and Ashton Dooland for 48 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: those unfamiliar the story, the guy who were trying to 49 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: kick for a touchdown undirected free agent works. As you know, 50 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 3: lu Off, he was playing for kind of the knucklehead 51 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 3: play from ad Mitchell the week, like he deserved it 52 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: more than anyone. So I felt awful for him in 53 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: that moment. 54 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: Oh man, what big picture were we looking at yesterday 55 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: as Colts sands? 56 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: Was this just a net? 57 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: Are the Raiders, you know, another bad just average bad 58 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 2: to bad team or have Have the Colts fans and 59 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: the people that pay attention to this missed something well? 60 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: I think one thing to keep in mind is certainly 61 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 3: the Colts. I think I played one of the easier 62 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: schedules in the NFL. But just because the easy schedules 63 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 3: presented in front of you doesn't mean NFL teams take 64 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: advantage of it, nor have Colts. And I guess to 65 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 3: put a little context around at NIJE, the Colts have 66 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 3: won three games by at least twenty points this season. 67 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: Yeah wow. 68 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: They hadn't won one game by twenty points last year 69 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 3: the year before that, or the year before that. They 70 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: hadn't won a game by twenty points since twenty and 71 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: twenty one, and now they've done it three times in 72 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 3: five weeks. So again, I get that these teams are 73 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 3: likely drafting high, but you know, teams drafting high with 74 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: bad quarterbacks have beaten the Colts in recent years. So 75 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: for you to not only win these games but beat 76 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: the you know what out of these teams, that that 77 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: tells me something. The NFL seasons a longer eye in 78 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: seventeen weeks is a long long time. But still for 79 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: those saying, ah, the Colts have an easy schedule, who 80 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: cares you know? 81 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: Well, who are you worried about? Well, who were you 82 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: worried as a Colts fan? Who are we worried about 83 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: at this point? Looking ahead on the schedule Arizona? 84 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: Yes, Joel Wise, you know a'll be curious to Chargers. 85 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: You know, another trip out to the West coast. I 86 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: know that their offensive lines a little banged up. You know, 87 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 3: you do go to Pittsburgh, I want to say, in 88 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: a few weeks about a month's time. You know that's 89 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: always been a difficult place to play. But you know, 90 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 3: even when the schedule came out, in May, it was 91 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 3: definitely more backloaded than front loaded. So once you get 92 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 3: back from your bye week, you know, you go to 93 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: Kansas City, you go to Seattle, you faced Jacksonville, who 94 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: tonight is playing for a chance to go four to 95 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 3: one to start the year. So again it is a 96 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 3: little bit more backloaded. But still the Colts are doing 97 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 3: things they haven't done in years, and they deserve credit 98 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 3: for that. 99 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 2: Who is the face of this franchise at this point, 100 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: I mean it's it's gotta be Jonathan Taylor, right, but 101 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones is right up there with him. 102 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: You think, yeah, I mean, Jones is flight out standy. 103 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 3: I thought yesterday it was his best individual play when 104 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: you rolled out to his right late in the first 105 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: half and found Michael Pittman Jr. In the back of 106 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: the end zone for a touchdown. And again, so much 107 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 3: credit to you know, Chris Don and Shane Siken for 108 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 3: going out getting Daniel Jones and then really believing that, hey, 109 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: the New York Giants was a disastrous organization and we're 110 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 3: gonna support him better. And if we support him better, 111 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: we think there's something there in the former top ten pick. 112 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 3: And you know, there are some resurrection projects around the 113 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: league that are working. Baker Mayfield in Tampa is one 114 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: of those. Now, there are some that kind of fizzle out, 115 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: but right now and again yesterday was a perfect example 116 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 3: of it. No negative plays pretty mesonical, and you know, 117 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: it's kind of wild to say. I mean, the Colts 118 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,679 Speaker 3: are down three to nothing early in the second quarter 119 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 3: and then you'll blink and they score forty points in 120 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 3: the second and the third quarter. I mean, it was 121 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 3: amazing how quickly that game changed. 122 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: What happened? 123 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 2: We're speaking with Kevin Bowen from one of seven five 124 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: the fan. What happened with Spencer Schrader man that that 125 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: was a bummer the kicker? What's the status? 126 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it sounds like a really serious knee injury 127 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 3: for him on unfortunately, Yeah, that was awful. You know, 128 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: I clearly looked bad, and so you know, it looks 129 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 3: like that's gonna impact him and a significant manner. So 130 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 3: the Colts are gonna have to do the old kicker 131 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: tryouts this week and we will see exactly who their 132 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: new place kicker will be. I I thought it was 133 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 3: a hair dirty. I don't know if there's like, you know, 134 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: rule book evidence that could lead to that. I get 135 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 3: guys that, you know, laying out for these block kicks, 136 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 3: and sometimes that's part of it. But you know, it 137 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 3: just felt like with the Raiders getting one blocked against him, 138 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 3: the leak prior the Colts had blocked the punt for them, 139 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 3: you know, earlier in that second quarter, I just thought 140 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 3: it was a little bit you know, crossing the line. 141 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 3: But yeah, hopefully a full recovery for him, because he's, 142 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 3: you know, having a really nice start. He's a local guy, 143 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: you know, lived in Westfields are a large portion of 144 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 3: his childhood and spent his final collegiate year up at 145 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 3: Notre Dame. 146 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 2: And and then could you have explained to me they 147 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: they couldn't find a backup kicker Sanchez or whoever, Like 148 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: they kept on throwing the extra points every time there 149 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,679 Speaker 2: was nobody that could that could kick an extra point. 150 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that was a little odd, to be 151 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: honest with you. Really. Yeah, so I get there, like 152 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: teams don't carry a backup kicker, Like you're only allowed 153 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 3: to dress forty six guys on game day. Like I 154 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 3: totally understand that, But the odd part was, like I 155 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 3: thought it was potentially a good opportunity to let rigaverto 156 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 3: Sanchez you know kick an extra point? Yeah he did 157 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 3: kick in college. And like, just in case one of 158 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: those situations arises during the game, boom, you've at least 159 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: worked on the operation. Because weirdly, the Colts long snapper 160 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 3: would have become their holder in that situation. That's that's 161 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: kind of the oddity and how they changed it up. 162 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 3: But so Luke Roodes would have become their holder through 163 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: ogle tree at backup tight end would have become they're 164 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: long snapper. So Shane's baking just kept on over two 165 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 3: b version. After two point of version, I'm like, well, 166 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: you're up by a million, why not just kick the 167 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: extra points? So these guys at least get a game rap, 168 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: but you know, Shane elected otherwise. 169 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: Hey, and then finally, because it's funny, we're just talking 170 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 2: about kickers and Mark Sanchez are really talking about the 171 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: game just because it was a blowout. But hey, I 172 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: saw because I had a bunch of friends over yesterday 173 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: drinking some beers and as you know, as the game progressed, 174 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,239 Speaker 2: we just kind of lost interest. Did I see Anthony 175 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: Richardson in the game at one point? And how'd he do? 176 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 3: Indeed, Anthony Richardson, he threw a pass that he caught himself. 177 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: The ball was batted up in the air. He showed 178 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: his tremendous athleticism and hauled in the catch and really 179 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 3: did a nice job of gaining some yards after the catch. 180 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 3: It was really a very impressive feat. And then later 181 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 3: which doesn't shock anyone, Ady Mitchell was also in the game, 182 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 3: and Anthony Richardson threw a ball twenty yards over the 183 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 3: head of Ady Mitchell. So miscommunication with those two we 184 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: were used to last season. Really miss communication between Joe 185 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 3: Flacco and Adie Mitchell we were used to last season. 186 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 3: So yeah, he played the final eleven minutes, which again, 187 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 3: like NFL games, NIGE, you just don't see blowouts like 188 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 3: that where your backup quarterback, you know, is treated like 189 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 3: a walk on, you know. And that's like pretty much 190 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 3: how the Colt streetd Anthony and Richardson and really a 191 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: lot of their frontline starters. 192 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: Yesterday and a brother couldn't get an extra two points somewhere, 193 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: not a field goal, not a touchdown with like you said, 194 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 2: eleven minutes left, couldn't oh the man that killed my parlay? 195 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: So what real quick? 196 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: I know, the Pacers had their fan jam thing over 197 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: the weekend. What's the schedule in terms of preseason and 198 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: just just your quick overall thoughts of what we can 199 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: expect from the Pacers this season. 200 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. So actually over our Pacers practice earlier today. They 201 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 3: are off to Minnesota for their preseason opener, so that 202 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 3: is tomorrow night. 203 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: Wow. 204 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 3: They'll play four preseason games here and then their regular 205 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: season opener will be against the Thunder ironically, and that 206 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 3: will be two weeks from Thursday. So I want to 207 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 3: say that's the twenty third of October. That will be 208 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 3: when things officially get underway. So yeah, there you go. 209 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 3: It's kind of crazy that it's fact to being here. 210 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: You know, saw some Pacer staffers getting right ahead of 211 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 3: the airport and they're like, here we go again. You know, 212 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 3: it just seems like last season. Just do. 213 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: So what's going on on the show tomorrow? 214 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 3: So we will have Ashton Dollon I mentioned to him earlier. 215 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 3: We played that like in the nine o'clock hour today. 216 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 3: I know our morning commute audience can vary, so for 217 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 3: those on the seven o'clock commute time, I will play 218 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 3: that around seven thirty. Really great story about again an 219 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 3: undrafted free agent from Malone. They don't even play football 220 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 3: at Malone anymore at the school in Ohio, and he's 221 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 3: carved out just to great role with the Colts. So 222 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 3: we'll play that coming up at seven thirty. And I'm 223 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 3: starting to look ahead to a huge one for Kurt 224 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 3: Signetty I you at ore Agon College game Day, will 225 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 3: be there. Talk back up Saturday afternoons. 226 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: Wow, there you go. 227 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: Kevin Bowen from one O seven five the Fan. Thank 228 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 2: you so much, sir, having a great week. 229 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 3: You bet non I, thanks for having me. 230 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: It's a Hammer and Nigel show.