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Speaker 2: That Mark act is how you get people up and running.

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Speaker 3: This morning right there, little Larric Clapton old school and

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Speaker 2: Man, A good morning and welcome into a Wednesday. It's

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Speaker 2: the Fan Morning Show. Mark Dykton's spinning the hits over there.

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Speaker 3: We got James Boyd am I right, Kevin Bowen to

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Speaker 3: my left, and then by the way, people starting to

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Speaker 3: check in on the text line two very nine ten

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Speaker 3: seventy uh Mark.

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Speaker 2: This one says the Bears will move to area code

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Speaker 2: to ZIP code five eight.

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Speaker 3: Two seven to one. That is somewhere in North Dakota. Okay,

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Speaker 3: there you go, but chill there here. They drive there, Pembina,

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Speaker 3: North Dakota. I looked it up Penbina, just a little

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Speaker 3: bit north of Joliette, North Dakota, apparently.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, I'm familiar Juliet, Illinois. Yeah, okay, I'll

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Speaker 4: then learn my geography around here.

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Speaker 3: What's the what's the line from the Blues brothers as

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Speaker 3: they get ready to set off on their adventure from Juliet. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: the Indiana Pacers winning overtime last night is a good thing?

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Speaker 3: Is it a bad thing? I, for one, am not

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Speaker 3: a tanking guy. Maybe it's just the Knicks. Maybe maybe

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Speaker 3: if you only get wins the rest of the way

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Speaker 3: against the Nixon Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: Things will be okay, Right, James, there's some teams you

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Speaker 2: just got to beat.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, Jeff, I can't. I can't agree.

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Speaker 6: Do you see the trade that they made for it

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Speaker 6: beats a zoobots and the stipulations there.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, man, the it's bittersweet.

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Speaker 4: I just went to Tankathon, Like, let's see what happens here.

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Speaker 4: I spun the lottery and the Pacers have the sixth pick,

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Speaker 4: so they'll send that to LA all right, now it's

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Speaker 4: my term.

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Speaker 2: All right, you're gonna go on there.

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Speaker 5: Let's see.

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Speaker 7: Yep.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I got the sixth pick as well.

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Speaker 3: I did a couple times last week. It was fourth, fifth,

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Speaker 3: and sixth all the time. I've never been in the

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Speaker 3: top three. Have you have you checked out before?

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Speaker 5: I just gotta be in tough for yeah, I have not. Today.

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Speaker 8: You think if we did a poll, fans would want

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Speaker 8: what the Jazz are doing, like you play your start,

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Speaker 8: you play your frontline guys until the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I do think the majority of the fan base

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Speaker 5: would want that.

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Speaker 3: I should put a pole up there, Mark on the

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Speaker 3: fan twitter feed? Do you just are you in favor

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Speaker 3: of just an outright tank.

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Speaker 5: Mainly because other teams are doing it?

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Speaker 6: So why should you be left out of the potential

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Speaker 6: reward there? And also, I don't know how much we

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Speaker 6: can only debate this in here on the show because

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Speaker 6: I don't know how much of it is cared about

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Speaker 6: at the league office level. But do they really care

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Speaker 6: about tanking? That's a question I've been asking myself because you.

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Speaker 8: Read off those rules and I had never heard of them,

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Speaker 8: to be honest with you, until you read them off,

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Speaker 8: Like so I've never seen them implemented. You know again,

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Speaker 8: like let's look at Zubots. Are they tanking when Zubots

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Speaker 8: or not? He missed time doing an ankle injury? Like

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Speaker 8: what do the Pacers have to present like MRI records

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Speaker 8: to the league office to say that he's hurt? Yeah,

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Speaker 8: Aaroni Smith's back flares up last night. Now, I mean

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Speaker 8: you finish the game, Like I don't. I don't get

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Speaker 8: how you can properly like adjudicate if teams are holding

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Speaker 8: guys out or not based off like medical records. It's

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Speaker 8: clear that you're doing it, like it's clear what the

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Speaker 8: Jazz are doing. But I, yeah, I guess I don't

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Speaker 8: really know how you properly judge a rule on it. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: it makes sense.

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Speaker 6: I just wonder if they will somehow, some way revisit

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Speaker 6: this conversation, not only because of the tank angle, and

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Speaker 6: I don't know necessarily if it's from like an availability standpoint,

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Speaker 6: but just what you do with the availability, because not

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Speaker 6: playing your guys in the fourth quarter, you can't sit

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Speaker 6: up there with a straight face and say we're a

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Speaker 6: better team if you're the Utah Jazz without having Lloyd Marketing,

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Speaker 6: Jaron Zach Junior, Keyante George and other your top players

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Speaker 6: out there on the floor. So that's the part where

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure if the NBA can really change that

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Speaker 6: or affect that. But when you look at the tanking debate,

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Speaker 6: that's part of it. It's it's knowing that, Okay, Adam Silver,

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Speaker 6: you told us we have to play our players, but

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Speaker 6: you didn't say anything about the fourth quarter. And I

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Speaker 6: also wonder if the NBA will step in because of

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Speaker 6: the betting part of it, Like if you're betting on

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Speaker 6: game and you've gotten in bed with all these companies,

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Speaker 6: if you bet on the over or whatever for a

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Speaker 6: twenty one and a half for Lawyer Marketing's points. He's

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Speaker 6: at nineteen, he doesn't play the fourth quarter, and he's healthy.

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Speaker 5: What are we doing?

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Speaker 6: So I don't Again, I don't have the remedy, but

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Speaker 6: just a lot of thoughts I have on that topic.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, the one I hear the most is

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Speaker 8: once you're officially eliminated, then your wins would count positively

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Speaker 8: towards whatever lottery standings that are, which you know, again,

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Speaker 8: there might be some players in the roster that are like, well,

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Speaker 8: I don't if I want a great, great player walking

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Speaker 5: Spot next year.

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Speaker 8: It's true, that's just the reality of the situation there.

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Speaker 8: So I don't have a great answer, to be totally

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Speaker 8: honest with you, But I just felt like Quinn Buckner

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Speaker 8: and Kristen Aarry's jubilation last night was through the roof, Yeah, understandably,

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Speaker 8: like they are part of their calling these games. It's

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Speaker 8: their job. It's yeah, you know, eighty two nights out

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Speaker 8: of the year, it's a Madison square guard and the

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Speaker 8: Knicks are playing minute their front line guys. And then

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Speaker 8: I hear from more people saying, I wish Jalen Brunson

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Speaker 8: would have hit more shots in the final minute. I

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Speaker 8: wish Quinton Jackson wouldn't have hit the three in overtimes

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Speaker 5: By the way, that.

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Speaker 8: We should not feel awkward about a win, but that's

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Speaker 8: how I think a majority of fans do. And again

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Speaker 8: some aer saying, hey, I don't care. I'm always gonna

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Speaker 8: cheer for the wins, and others say, look at the math.

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Speaker 8: If you look at the math the nets right now,

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Speaker 8: who you play tonight there? I think it's two games

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Speaker 8: above you, and that's a ten percent difference. Could that

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Speaker 8: ten percent difference between be the difference between that pick

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Speaker 8: going to the Clippers and you draft them Ajdabantsa. By

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Speaker 8: the way, did you see Dbanca last night?

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Speaker 5: I did. Boy, he looks really good. I think it's

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Speaker 5: Barren Peter one two.

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Speaker 8: Better get those ivs in a masap well.

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Speaker 2: I got I got number two on Tekathon.

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Speaker 5: Just now there you go. Just just keep spinning, my friends.

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Speaker 2: Before I don't spin again. I'm gonna keep this one.

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Speaker 5: It's true.

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Speaker 8: But for thirty seven and seven, I believe for de

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Speaker 8: Banca last night.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was, he was outstanding.

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Speaker 6: And then looking at the actual standings right now, as

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Speaker 6: much as we want to lament the Pacers win, that

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Speaker 6: probably should have been a loss. They still the second

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Speaker 6: worst record in the NBA currently fourteen and forty.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of the Pacers, two new guys obviously, we saw

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Speaker 3: last night Kobe Brown had the best plus minus of

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Speaker 3: any Pacer player. In eighteen minutes, he had eight points

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Speaker 3: and six rebounds.

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Speaker 2: That was good.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday had the conversation with Rick Carlyle about what this

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Speaker 3: next week or two is going to look like. We

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Speaker 3: got the All Star Game coming up this weekend. So

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Speaker 3: once the Pacers play at New Jersey tonight, all right,

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Speaker 3: Brooklyn tonight, Sorry, once they play at Brooklyn tonight, then

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Speaker 3: they don't play again until after the All Star break.

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Speaker 3: And here's what Rick said about guys who were playing,

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Speaker 3: specifically Zubats.

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Speaker 9: No, no, he's I don't think he's going to play

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Speaker 9: for a while. He's got a lingering ankle situation. He

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Speaker 9: was injured December twentieth or something like this. Initially it

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Speaker 9: was it was deemed to be a four to six

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Speaker 9: week injury. But this is a guy that's played ninety

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Speaker 9: five percent of his game since he's been in the NBA,

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Speaker 9: and he pushed to come back early. Their team was struggling,

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Speaker 9: and so it's just there's just something in there. Still,

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Speaker 9: there's some discomfort, there's some swelling. You admire the guy

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Speaker 9: for slugging through, but at this point it makes zero

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Speaker 9: sense for him to be out on the floor in

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Speaker 9: an NBA game if you're not feeling as close to

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Speaker 9: one hundred percent as possible.

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Speaker 7: So I don't know the timetable. He will not.

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Speaker 9: Playing these two games, and we'll see what's what when

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Speaker 3: Out of the break lingering ankle issue. How long do

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Speaker 3: you think it will linger, Kevin Bowen.

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Speaker 8: I said ten and a half games he'll play as

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Speaker 8: a pacer. That was my over under. I think that

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Speaker 3: They still got a bunch of that, I think got

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Speaker 3: I think like twenty eight games remaining, right you hear Rick.

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Speaker 8: Carlisle right there, that doesn't make you seem like he's

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Speaker 8: coming back anytime soon, does it not?

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Speaker 2: Lingering is the word.

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Speaker 8: And even Zubots, you know, I hopped on the Zoom

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Speaker 8: call yesterday with him. I didn't get the impression that

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Speaker 8: he was all of a sudden, you know, itching to

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Speaker 8: put on a uniform and company man. Now, I was

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Speaker 8: going to say, I think he has heard the company

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Speaker 8: line quite well. I did have to laugh that. Vitza

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Speaker 8: Zubots shared that he got the trade call from Lawrence Frank,

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Speaker 8: one former Indiana basketball managed under by night. He got

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Speaker 8: the trade call from Lawrence Frank while learning how to

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Speaker 8: utilize the bottle warmer. First time parent beats the Zubat's daughter,

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Speaker 8: born last week, fumbling through the how to figure out

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Speaker 8: the bottle warmer.

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Speaker 2: Okay, how's the swaddling going for him?

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Speaker 8: I was gonna say, boy, if he's got the swaddling

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Speaker 8: mechanism down, I've had three and I still don't.

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Speaker 5: Even know if I figure it out.

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Speaker 8: So I'll take the baby, fold the corner over and

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Speaker 8: then you tuck the arm in and then you really

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Speaker 8: gotta get it onto the side.

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Speaker 5: What is the bottle warm? What does that? What does

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Speaker 5: that mean?

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Speaker 6: You know, do you not just take the cause I'm

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Speaker 6: saying I'm serious about them, not joking. Do you not

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Speaker 6: just take the bottle in microwave or something?

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Speaker 2: Or how does that a nice little nice bottle.

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Speaker 8: Bottle in the microwave?

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Speaker 5: Well, who's that idea? Was that? What kind of you

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Speaker 5: know what?

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Speaker 2: It's a very ring.

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Speaker 6: Here, But out of all the geniuses we have on

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Speaker 6: planet Earth, we can't get a bottle warmer that gets

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Speaker 6: the warm for the microwave.

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Speaker 8: J If I ever try to like discredit one of

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Speaker 8: your questions about this, go ahead and slap me, because,

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Speaker 8: like I think, there are no dumb questions when it

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Speaker 8: comes to walking human being into the world for the

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Speaker 5: Hundred percent you're looking at you.

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Speaker 3: Right, So the Pacers win it one thirty seven four

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Speaker 8: So you're good with the win. You don't want to

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Speaker 2: I hate losing at all.

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Speaker 3: I understand how it works, but.

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Speaker 3: I think you have lingering a look, I'm all for lingering,

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Speaker 2: I think you play the game that way.

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Speaker 3: I despise the way that utah As are just blatantly

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Speaker 5: See, I don't. I don't.

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Speaker 4: I feel like they're gaming the system. The NBA you're

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Speaker 3: It's just But to Kevin's original point, though, it's odd

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Speaker 2: It's just a weird thing.

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Speaker 8: I think we all can agree it's awkward. Yeah, like,

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Speaker 5: And I'll say this too. I think the Pacers last

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Speaker 6: And then additionally I think the like the moral code

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Speaker 5: Don't care, like, well, I'll tell you, here's the balls.

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Speaker 6: See that hurt the Pacers for years, always being in

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Speaker 5: So it's always good to be you.

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Speaker 8: Covered the team in the web andyon the lottery, right.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and they did tank.

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Speaker 6: But by the way, people keep saying the Pacers never

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Speaker 5: They were losing on purpose.

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Speaker 8: They missed getting the number one picked by one ball, right,

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Speaker 8: I believe there's a thousand combinations for the fourteen lottery teams.

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Speaker 8: how crazy. I mean where was Dallas last year with these?

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Speaker 8: I mean it can be you know, so finicky. And again,

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Speaker 3: Just say, don't play guys at all, because when you

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Speaker 5: Guys.

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Speaker 3: Players are going to play to win last night. Pascal

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Speaker 8: Wait, I thought you were happy with the win last night.

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Speaker 8: Now you're saying don't play the guys.

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Speaker 2: No, here's what I'm saying. You missed the point.

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Speaker 3: The point is if you play the players, the players

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Speaker 8: Do you sit them for the fourth quarter?

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Speaker 2: You sit them tonight on the second of a back

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Speaker 3: I hate it when you start guys and then just go, Okay,

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Speaker 7: Of the game.

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Speaker 2: That's what drives me.

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Speaker 8: So you say you don't play them at all in

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Speaker 2: No, it's easy. You got the second game of a

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Speaker 8: You're on the run mount non second nights of back

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Speaker 2: And then guys have sore backs or sore needs. But

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Speaker 5: I see what you're just saying.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's pretty nasty when you pull them in the

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Speaker 3: I mean, can you imagine in the National Football League

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Speaker 2: Could you imagine that in the NFL?

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Speaker 4: Have you already seen the like Jele say, have a

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Speaker 5: It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I just think it's subtle and you got to do

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Speaker 3: If you're gonna take you're trying to do it in

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Speaker 4: I think, if anything, the legal office is going to

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Speaker 4: We can't be putting this product out here where teams

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Speaker 6: Almost think that is the best remedy just to make

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Speaker 6: it because all this other stuff, I mean, what are

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Speaker 8: I mean, the NBA is trying to not get the

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Speaker 8: The NBA, the top three teams all have the same odds.

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Speaker 8: So to Mark's point, who is it? Is it the

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Speaker 8: So that they're trying I understand what they're doing with

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Speaker 6: So I'm very curious. I do I do want to

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Speaker 3: If you just keep playing the Nobles built Boom on

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Speaker 2: You can say, hey, tougher for us.

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Speaker 3: We're going to try to develop as many guys as

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Speaker 3: possible and just go with that line. Right, Remember when

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Speaker 2: Just using G League guys every night.

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Speaker 6: That was pretty bad. I think the league actually might

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Speaker 2: Weren't even they weren't even trying with their starting line.

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Speaker 10: Mark from the top, brobel It comes back to the

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Speaker 8: it's like, oh my gosh, great, great win, unbelievable. You

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Speaker 8: beat the Knicks, it's your rival, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 8: If the end result would be getting a Peyton Manning

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Speaker 8: or and Andrew Luck, you think you would take a

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Speaker 8: loss to the Knicks last night.

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Speaker 3: That's why I say, when you put players out there,

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Speaker 3: I guarantee a Pascal Siaka.

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Speaker 2: And Andrew Nemharder, Like I ain't losing to these guys.

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Speaker 8: Nokam's try and do his part there exactly missing the

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Speaker 8: free throws and he Smith made a hell of a

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Speaker 8: tank play at the foul Karl Anthony.

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Speaker 5: Townvegrogate the Pacers.

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Speaker 6: But no, the last thing I'll say, and I've got

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Speaker 6: to hit the break. But to Mark's point, if the

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Speaker 6: NBA is really going to look at this, you gotta

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Speaker 6: look at the fan product, because if you are paying

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Speaker 6: to go to these games and see these players play,

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Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, you know what you well maybe

459
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Speaker 6: you don't know, because you might buy tickets well in advance.

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Speaker 6: But even if you do know, you you go to

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Speaker 6: the game to see these guys play. You don't go

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Speaker 6: to the game to see Larry Market and sit in

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Speaker 6: the fourth quarter. So you just haven't heard you good answer,

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Speaker 6: I know. And that's why I think it's such a

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Speaker 6: difficult solution. If there is one to find or tweak

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Speaker 6: this offseason.

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Speaker 4: NBA Cup becomes the Tankathon.

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Speaker 5: Cup winner gets the top pick.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 8: I mean, hell, aren't the thunder like in line and

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Speaker 8: maybe even give the top pick. With all the draft

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Speaker 8: picks that they actually do have a chance to get

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Speaker 8: the number one pick. Could you imagine Sam Presty's a genius?

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Speaker 3: Is PACER's win one thirty seven, one thirty four in overtime?

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Speaker 3: The Pacers Playback presented by CNJ Water, the official water

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Speaker 3: treatment partner of the Indiana Pacers, cnjwater dot Com. Coming

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Speaker 3: up in a moment, College basketball is starting a round

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Speaker 3: in to full speed ahead, heading down the stretch, getting

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Speaker 3: ready for tournament play. Tell you how Purdue is looking next.

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Speaker 3: We have one remaining undefeated team in college basketball and

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Speaker 3: Division one this year. Obviously we saw Arizona go down

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Speaker 3: the other night, but right now the RedHawks at Miami

483
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Speaker 3: of Ohio are the lone undefeated team in America and

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Speaker 3: their head coach joins us Now and the Payless Lookers

485
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Speaker 3: no stranger to these parts. Travis Steele, happy to have

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Speaker 3: you on the fan morning show this morning. I have

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Speaker 3: things going for it, I would think pretty well right now.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, things are going great. I appreciate you guys having

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Speaker 11: me on.

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Speaker 8: Coach Yeah again, appreciate the time. Obviously, tons of Indiana connections.

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Speaker 8: I think our audience realizes that from your coaching staff

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Speaker 8: and even some of your players. I wanted to start there,

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Speaker 8: Pete Suitor, Justin Kirby, you go up to Hamilton County,

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Speaker 8: those names quite familiar, kind of different paths to Oxford,

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Speaker 8: and I think Justin maybe even there was a thought

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Speaker 8: he might read shirt.

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Speaker 5: But if you don't mind we start there.

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Speaker 8: Let's start with Pete Souitter first and exactly the role,

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Speaker 8: how you guys got him, and what he's meant to

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Speaker 8: your team.

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Speaker 11: Yeah. You know, so when I took the job here

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Speaker 11: at Miami a couple of years ago, he was already

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Speaker 11: committed and signed to go to Bellerman down in Louisville.

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Speaker 11: And we actually played Bellerman my first year here. Now,

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Speaker 11: we didn't win many games by year one, but we

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Speaker 11: did beat Bellerman, and I'll never forget. I told our

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Speaker 11: staff during the middle of the game, I said, why

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Speaker 11: the heck is it Peter Souiter here at Miami. I said, Man,

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Speaker 11: he's my type of guy. So fast forward, you know,

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Speaker 11: a year and a half later, Well, Pete enters the

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Speaker 11: transfer portal and I had actually just taken a commitment

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Speaker 11: from another kid the day that he had entered the

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Speaker 11: portal at his position, and so I had to actually,

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Speaker 11: once Pete entered the portal, I actually had to call

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Speaker 11: that young man back and tell him I was going

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Speaker 11: a different direction. And I had no idea whether I

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Speaker 11: could get Peter or not. And think, thank god we

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Speaker 11: ended up getting them because we went all in on him.

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Speaker 11: And you know, Pete for us as our one of

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Speaker 11: our leaders, he is to me one of the best

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Speaker 11: players in all of college basketball.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 11: He could play anywhere. He's an absolute winner, tough defensively,

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Speaker 11: he's tremendous offense. He can score thirty seven, he could

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Speaker 11: go get ten assists in a game. You know, he's

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Speaker 11: just a walking he's a winner. He wonted Carmel High

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Speaker 11: schoo He just wins. And then you know a guy

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Speaker 11: like Justin Kirby, who you mentioned. You know, Justin, we

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Speaker 11: really come on late there at Fisher's obviously another great

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Speaker 11: high school program. You think about Carmels, they always win,

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Speaker 11: Ryan Osbourne, Garrett Wyne Garden always wins up up at Fishers,

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Speaker 11: you know, and Justin you can just see the immense

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Speaker 11: upside that he had and that his best basketball was

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Speaker 11: ahead of him. Well, all of a sudden this year,

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Speaker 11: you know, he was injured and sick in the preseason

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Speaker 11: a lot, so I said, hey, probably the best thing

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Speaker 11: is going to be the red shirt. And then all

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Speaker 11: of a sudden, you know, our point guard went down

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Speaker 11: the season ending injury in December, and I said, hey, listen,

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Speaker 11: let's have a conversation about burning the red shirt. And

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Speaker 11: he was like, Coach, I'm all in. And he has

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Speaker 11: just taken off since then. And again another guy that

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Speaker 11: has just a two way player that has an IMNTS

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Speaker 11: upside winner. Both are great, great young men. So we're

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Speaker 11: super super happy that we have them here Miami.

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Speaker 6: So we have Travis Steele here on the line, the

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Speaker 6: coach of Miami of Ohio and the last undefeated team

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Speaker 6: and men's basketball in the country.

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Speaker 5: Coach. I did get a chance to see Justin Kirby last.

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Speaker 6: Year actually playing for Fishers, who they I feel like

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Speaker 6: they haven't lost the regular season game and forever they

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Speaker 6: always win.

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Speaker 5: Like you said, but.

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Speaker 6: When you look at your program, you're on quite the

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Speaker 6: winning streak as well.

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Speaker 5: Do you talk about the streak at all? Is it

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Speaker 5: like taboo to do so?

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Speaker 6: But even beyond that, however, you all just approached this

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Speaker 6: season to get to this point in what you're building.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's a great question, you know, and it's it's

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Speaker 11: you know, we just kind of live at day to day.

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Speaker 11: I told our guys I could care less about the streak.

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Speaker 11: I'm happy for our players and our university for getting

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Speaker 11: the recognition and attention that we've gotten. But it's just

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Speaker 11: all about the process, right, It's embracing the process the

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Speaker 11: day to day. Are we getting a great lift in today?

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Speaker 11: Are we watching film and getting better? Are we practicing?

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Speaker 11: We're maximizing that hour of practice that we're on the floor,

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Speaker 11: you know, Like I have this quote above my desk.

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Speaker 11: It's be obsessed with trajectory and not the results. Are

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Speaker 11: we getting better? Are we not like we need to

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Speaker 11: peak in March?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 11: That's all I care about and our guys know that,

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Speaker 11: and so we've really enjoyed. Listen, I know you've got

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Speaker 11: to enjoy the moment, right, and you want to be

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Speaker 11: where your feet are. Man, this has been a super,

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Speaker 11: super fun ride with these guys. I'm blessed just to

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Speaker 11: be a part of it, and it's been a ton

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Speaker 11: of fun. Even like the bus rides that the long

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Speaker 11: bus rides the hotels man. It's we have a lot

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Speaker 11: a lot of fun together. We keep it loose, but

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Speaker 11: in time we work really, really hard. You know.

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Speaker 3: One of the things that's as I've watched your team

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Speaker 3: and then I went back and looked at it last

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Speaker 3: night and knowing we were having you on. You've had

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Speaker 3: your share of steamrolling teams, no question about that. But

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Speaker 3: of your games, you've had three wins in overtime and

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Speaker 3: three or four others that have been decided by two

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Speaker 3: or three points. What is it about that that I

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Speaker 3: always think when in close games consistently tells you how

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Speaker 3: your team is doing.

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's good to.

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Speaker 11: Get put in every situation. You know, you practice, you

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Speaker 11: practice those special situations in practice, but to be able

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Speaker 11: to do it live game is a different situation, right,

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Speaker 11: I mean, it's just different. And we've been in every situation.

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Speaker 11: We've been up by five, lost the lead and with

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Speaker 11: two minutes ago, we've been we've been down by five

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Speaker 11: with two minutes ago and took it to overtime. Winners

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Speaker 11: find a way, even when they don't necessarily play well,

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Speaker 11: they find a way. And our guys have such a

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Speaker 11: I've used a word a lot, unflappable. With our guys,

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Speaker 11: we are calm, cool, collected, confident in those moments, we

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Speaker 11: have that belief. And when you have that belief, man,

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Speaker 11: it's so so powerful, it really is, and it just

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Speaker 11: permeates throughout the rest of our team.

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Speaker 8: Some boys to Travis Steele again, the undefeated of my

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Speaker 8: Ohio at Hawk's last one of men's basketball. Quite the

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Speaker 8: Indiana background, not only on the roster but also for him. So, coach,

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Speaker 8: let me make sure I got everything right. My father

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Speaker 8: also a Danville grad. You are Danville grad?

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Speaker 7: Is that right? That's exactly right? Your dad and your

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Speaker 7: father must be a really really smart.

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Speaker 8: Guy, very smart guy. Maybury Cafe, many meals there.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to.

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Speaker 8: Twin Bridges Golf Course. Shout out to the Warriors of Danville.

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Speaker 8: So Todd Lecklider coached you in high school?

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Speaker 7: Is that right?

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Speaker 11: So he would have been so he used to train

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Speaker 11: me when I was little, and he actually coached my

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Speaker 11: brother who coaches at Accro. Now I never gotten to

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Speaker 11: play for coach Lackclider and while I was in high school,

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Speaker 11: but he was the varsity coach when I was in

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Speaker 11: middle school and in grade school.

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Speaker 8: Okay, gotcha, and then you have had coaching stops. Benda

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Speaker 8: obviously went to Butler Ben Davis Indiana as well. I

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Speaker 8: guess it gets very cliche.

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Speaker 5: E at times.

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Speaker 8: You know, forty nine states blah blah blah that when

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Speaker 8: you think of Indiana basketball or Indiana basketball players, is

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Speaker 8: there so something that stands out about the characteristic?

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Speaker 5: But yes, it's a stereotype.

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Speaker 8: But do you think there is a true stereotype when

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Speaker 8: you're describing this state when it comes to basketball.

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Speaker 11: I do. It's different. I mean I feel like it's

638
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 11: just part of the every community, right It just they

639
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 11: all get behind there at the high school team, you

640
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 11: get a basketball in your hand at a very young age.

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Speaker 11: It's the coaching is terrific in Indiana. I mean I

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Speaker 11: mentioned a couple of them earlier with Carmel and Fisher's.

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Speaker 11: I mean, like there there's great coaches over it. But Davis, Pike,

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Speaker 11: I mean everywhere, Noblesville, I mean the whole state. It's

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Speaker 11: it is a being able to recruit it and being

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Speaker 11: away from it. Because I did coach in high school

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Speaker 11: for three years at Ben Davis, and when you're in it,

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Speaker 11: you think it's the best. But then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 11: when you go to college coaching and you're recruiting different states,

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Speaker 11: you start to appreciate it even more.

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Speaker 3: Coach, one other thing, you mentioned your brother a moment ago,

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Speaker 3: John Gross, head coach at Akron. You got to play

653
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Speaker 3: him once and got the win over him. How does

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Speaker 3: that feel like two wins? When you get to beat

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Speaker 3: your brother.

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Speaker 11: It's just like in the backyard when you're growing up, right,

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Speaker 11: It's like it's it's it's a lot of fun. You know,

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Speaker 11: now I can show up to the family reunion. You know,

659
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Speaker 11: so now now that we be and may beat us

660
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 11: last year in the back championship game a heartbreaker for us,

661
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 11: and listen, it's a lot of fun. We're in that moment.

662
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 11: We're in those forty minutes. Man, he's putting this team

663
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 11: in positioned to win, and I'm doing the same for

664
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Speaker 11: my team. But it is also kind of weird at

665
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 11: the after, the after, you know, it's like, man, you

666
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 11: even if you want, it's kind of like, because you do,

667
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 11: I really want to see him too. Well, right, I

668
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 11: would not be where I'm at today if it wasn't

669
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Speaker 11: for him.

670
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 6: Well years ago, you'll have you know, Travis that I

671
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 6: covered coach Gross at Illinois when I was in school.

672
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 6: So it's kind of funny how it's like in sports,

673
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 6: like the seven degrees of separation is like three.

674
00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 7: You know.

675
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, everyone's been everywhere, Everyone's overlapped everywhere.

676
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 5: Uh, you know.

677
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 6: And then looking at just some of the things that

678
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 6: you've accomplished this season, how has it shifted.

679
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 5: We actually have a question.

680
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 6: Here from one of the Miami of Ohio grads, Todd Curry.

681
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 6: He says here asked Travis Steele about the difference between

682
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 6: playing in the millet at the beginning of January when

683
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 6: the students were away for the quote the Jay term,

684
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 6: versus now playing in a Sodaut arena. There are moved

685
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 6: the tarps in the upper level for the first time

686
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 6: in forever during this run, So how has that shifted?

687
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 6: Just the fan excitement And he also wanted to say

688
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,239
Speaker 6: the alumni is very proud of what you've done for

689
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 6: the program.

690
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 11: Yeah, well tell him thank you, and we appreciate all

691
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 11: the support.

692
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 7: You know.

693
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 11: I have a picture of our of the arena during

694
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 11: my first game ever year at Miami at Mallett Hall,

695
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 11: and there was barely anybody here. I had my wife,

696
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 11: my kids, and a few of the other staff and

697
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 11: members families and that was about it. And now we're

698
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 11: selling it out and take it to going for hundreds

699
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 11: of you know, three hundred dollars online, which is wild,

700
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 11: and it just shows that anything could be done. Miami

701
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 11: loves its sports, but they want to get behind the winter. Right,

702
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 11: you got to put out a product that's good enough,

703
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 11: and we've done that. But our marketing has done a

704
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 11: great job as well. Right, And because we have to

705
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 11: pull from our students. The student body has to be

706
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 11: the pulse and the heartbeat of our arena and if

707
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 11: it give us a great home court advantage. And man,

708
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 11: I will tell you when I came out, he mentioned

709
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 11: because Jay term is like when kids, it's at a

710
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 11: longer Christmas break maybe than most schools. It's all January. Basically,

711
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 11: our students are gone. And when they came back from

712
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 11: our UMass game, I was stunned watching out of the tunnel.

713
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 11: I mean, I honestly just floored how loud it was

714
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 11: the amount of people, Like you said, the tart they

715
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 11: usually have tarps up on the top up in the

716
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 11: upper court concourse area and it was sold out, and

717
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 11: I was just, man, it's awesome.

718
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 3: Man.

719
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 11: We appreciate it. I know our team does, our players do.

720
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 11: It means a lot.

721
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: Coach, Thanks so much for spending time with us this morning.

722
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 3: Maybe we'll check in with you again later on as

723
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: tournament time comes around.

724
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: Sound fair.

725
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 11: Absolutely, I appreciate you having me on. Guys.

726
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 3: Leading up to the climax of Mark's musical theme today,

727
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 3: he's worried about the Chicago Bears and whether they're going

728
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 3: to stay put in Chicago, where they're going to go

729
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 3: somewhere else. So we thought we'd bring in somebody who

730
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 3: covers this on a very close basis all the time.

731
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 2: John Greenberg writes for The Athletic. He covers the Chicago Bears.

732
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 3: He's been all over the story that perhaps Indiana's making

733
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 3: a play for the Bears up in the region of

734
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 3: northwest Indiana.

735
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: And then we get news Mark that Iowa has.

736
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 3: Introduced a bill in their state legislature that says, let's

737
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 3: put some money aside to see if we can get

738
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 3: the Bears.

739
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: Now, are you worried, my man?

740
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 4: I'm just confused, And that's why I'm glad we have

741
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 4: John coming on to hopefully offer some some relief here.

742
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 3: Well, John Greenberg does join us right now on the

743
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 3: Payless Liquors Hotline, and Mark, I'm just going to turn

744
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 3: it over to you because i know you're freaking out

745
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:10,239
Speaker 3: about this.

746
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: What questions do you have for John? And John thanks

747
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: for joining us this morning. But our resident Bears fan

748
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: is getting itchy over here? Can you understand that?

749
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 11: Yeah?

750
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 7: Absolutely, I mean this is it's a great story for

751
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 7: like this dead period of sports news, right, I think

752
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 7: it's I mean the Iowa stuff is just funny. Like

753
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 7: we had our Iowa writer do like a quick news

754
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 7: brief and he's he's a bit of a football he's

755
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 7: a Bears fan and a football historian, so he like

756
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 7: got a kick out of it. But like, yeah, it's

757
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 7: like when I mean they're gonna put him in like

758
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 7: Bettendorf next.

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00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 3: We voted Davenport earlier, but we said the Field of Dreams, Yeah, stadium.

760
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 7: That'd be amazing. So yeah, I mean this is like,

761
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 7: you know, this has been going on you know since

762
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 7: really like it was the previous uh, the previous mayor.

763
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 7: Lori Lightfoot got into it the Bears little bit and

764
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 7: there were some questions kind of started slowly with them

765
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 7: wanting to move, and then they bought this land in

766
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 7: you know, the northwest suburbs of Chicago, Arlington Heights to

767
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 7: Arlington Park, which was a racetrack. They tore down this

768
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 7: historic racetrack to build a stadium, and they've done absolutely

769
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 7: nothing with it in years. And part of that is

770
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 7: because they hired a new team president and Kevin Warren,

771
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 7: who came from the Vikings with the idea that he

772
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 7: helped them build a new stadium in Minneapolis and he

773
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 7: would be instrumental in getting this done lo and behold,

774
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 7: he has not got it done. In fact, he is.

775
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 7: Actually he's one of the main I mean he's not.

776
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 7: It's not all his fault. The tax situations complicated, but

777
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 7: he really wanted to keep the team in the city,

778
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 7: which I agree with. But like for what teams want

779
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 7: now with stadiums, they don't want stadiums. They want and

780
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 7: we've all heard this term, they want mixed use developments.

781
00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 7: That's what they want. They want everything stadiums almost like, yeah,

782
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 7: here's the big stadium, but it's just going to anchor

783
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 7: all the money we can make with restaurants, bars and

784
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 7: maybe apartments and hotels. So it's kind of like what

785
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 7: everyone used to want to do Wrigleyville, you know, the

786
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 7: area around Wrigley Field with all the bars and it's

787
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 7: all organic. And now everyone wants to do the Battery

788
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 7: in Atlanta, which is like a suburban shop outdoor shopping

789
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 7: mall with that happens to include a baseball stadium.

790
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 4: So John, as the resident Bears fan, I have to

791
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 4: ask you, I'm exhausted by the story. I feel like

792
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 4: most fans are, because I feel like it's been going

793
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 4: on forever. They bought the land in Arlington Heights, nothing

794
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 4: happened and there like we'll go back to Chicago, and

795
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 4: now that's not happening. And now we're here in northwest

796
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 4: Indiana even Iowa. Where when are we going to get

797
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 4: like a final, final decision on this thing? Because I've

798
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 4: heard the story for years. At this point, I just

799
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 4: want to shovel in the ground somewhere. When do you

800
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 4: think we're finally getting a decision one way or the

801
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 4: other on this.

802
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 7: Well, it sounds like they want to make it the

803
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 7: decision or at least have a path in the next

804
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 7: few weeks. Now the Indiana state legislatures is I think

805
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 7: by the end of the month they wrap up, but

806
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 7: the Illinois one goes through May, and that was when

807
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 7: I was told we'll have the final answer. But I

808
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 7: think they want to get ahead of this a little bit,

809
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 7: and it sounds like there's finally some momentum to get

810
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 7: some of the there's only really a couple issues. It's

811
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 7: just this tax certainty they want, or an idea of

812
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 7: tax certainty with the property taxes, and that A lot

813
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 7: of that has to do with just, you know, the

814
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 7: deals you make with lenders to lend you the money

815
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 7: to build everything. And then there's some other stuff in

816
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 7: like with the local school districts of that area of

817
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 7: how like taxes will be dispersed. So it's really not

818
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 7: that complicated. The problem is the Bears didn't do a

819
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 7: very good job of lobbing for this, and I think

820
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 7: what they did when they went back to the city

821
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 7: for about a year, which included like an absolutely hysterical

822
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 7: press conference like the day before they were going to

823
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 7: draft Caleb Williams, just like the most tenured like thing

824
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 7: you've ever seen, which included a minister pray asking people

825
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 7: to pray for the Bears, and someone dubbed a Walter

826
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 7: Prayton with Honey. But it was just like kind of

827
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 7: they basically wasted a year on this and that's why

828
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 7: they're in such a hurry now. But yeah, yeah, and

829
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 7: I get But then, you know, in some ways I

830
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 7: get it. It's complicated to build things. So here's what's

831
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 7: gonna happen. It's not going to Northwest Indiana, like it's

832
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 7: just going to Hammond. Could make some sense, I get it,

833
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 7: But you're not building this mixed use development in Hammond.

834
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 7: It's just not gonna work. I'm not for sure it's

835
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 7: gonna work in ar Lincoln Heights either, but it's not

836
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 7: gonna work in Hammond. It doesn't make a ton of sense.

837
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 7: The idea the other day that Portage, Indiana God wanted

838
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 7: to get involved was even funnier because they claimed that

839
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 7: it would be no, it wouldn't be paid for by taxpayers,

840
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 7: but also the team wouldn't pay for it. So I

841
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 7: think they found like a gold in the in the

842
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 7: Indiana Dune State Park and they were going to use

843
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 7: it to build a stadium. So I was dubbing it

844
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 7: like I want to see a game between the new

845
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 7: Buffalo Bears and the old Buffalo Bills.

846
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 5: That's great like that, John, thanks for joining us.

847
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 6: James Boyd here and I reached out last night to

848
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 6: get you here on the show.

849
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 5: You just crossed my dreams.

850
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 6: Do you know how much I've been lobbying for the

851
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 6: Gary Barris I mean, come on, man, we got the

852
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 6: Bricky Ball. Come on, this is meant for the for

853
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 6: the Bears. You want to be tough, go to the

854
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 6: Brickie Ball.

855
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 7: I listened. I want the Freddy Gibbs Dome as much

856
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 7: as you do. But you know, could you, Matt. You

857
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 7: know what's funny too, is you get when you start

858
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 7: talking about stadium stuff, you start talking about Chicago, you get,

859
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 7: you know, you get the people who are like Chicago's

860
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 7: too dangerous, you know, And that's always kind of a

861
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 7: coded complain from certain people. Imagine if the Bears moved

862
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 7: to Gary, Oh boy, I would love I would actually

863
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 7: almost like it, just for like, just for like. People

864
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 7: can play it, Garrett. The Gary Bears is a fantastic

865
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 7: idea for it with you, James, I.

866
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 5: Will say this real quick.

867
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 6: John and I spent a lot of time in the region,

868
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 6: a lot of time in Gary when I was a

869
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 6: high school reporter in Northwest Saint So I can tell

870
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 6: you I survived.

871
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 5: I didn't run some with too much trouble out there.

872
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 6: But looking at the Bears from a team structure standpoint,

873
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 6: and to kind of shift it to tie it back

874
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 6: to here with the Colts, the Colts have kind of

875
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 6: been in limbo when it comes to finding that quarterback.

876
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 6: The answer at quarterback and how much do you think

877
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 6: the Bears they're franchise and just the way they're viewed

878
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 6: going forward has shifted since finding that dude at that

879
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 6: position in Caleb Williams.

880
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 7: Well, I think it's really on the precipice of just

881
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 7: like we're completely changing how we view the Bears now.

882
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 7: Kind of need to see him. I mean, I think

883
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 7: he will do it again. I mean I think Caleb

884
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 7: show him that he's a special player. He's not Mitch Kubisky,

885
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 7: you know, he's not Jay justin Fields. You need to

886
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 7: see it for another year, right, I mean at least

887
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 7: like another year or too, because we've seen the Bears

888
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 7: be good forer a year and then immediately go in

889
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 7: the toilet. So we're gonna need to see it. But absolutely,

890
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 7: I mean Caleb and Ben Johnson listen, going to the

891
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 7: last season, the Bears were their usually incompetent self, you know,

892
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 7: going into last season because of the disaster of the

893
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 7: Matt Eberflus year, you know, the heart the dumb Hard

894
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 7: Knock season, which kind of after it aired showed like

895
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 7: how incompetent this organization is. Do you remember the Hard

896
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 7: Knocks Guys? Do you remember there was like a scene

897
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 7: where they were like talking about they had the business

898
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 7: people talking about what kind of seats they wanted in

899
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 7: the clubs in a club in the new stadium that

900
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 7: doesn't exist.

901
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 6: And then you fast forward and you have the coach

902
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 6: not calling a time out on Thanksgiving. So, yeah, clown

903
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 6: show that a couple of years ago.

904
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: Right, here's my question. Go ahead, No, you got to finish.

905
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 7: I was just gonna say, it's just it has completely

906
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 7: like when I was writing this season, like my tone

907
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 7: about halfway through completely shifted, you know, from like all right,

908
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 7: let's wait and see it to be like, oh no, wait,

909
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 7: we actually have something here. So if you can make

910
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 7: me shift my tone on the Bears, I think you've

911
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 7: got something special.

912
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 3: So I'm going to ask this to all three of you,

913
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 3: because James and Mark grew up in the Chicago area

914
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: and you're covering the Bears in this. Now, what do

915
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 3: they do with what I call that monstrosity downtown that

916
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 3: where they airlifted a spaceship and put it on top

917
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 3: of Soldier Field.

918
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 2: If they go to a new place, what happens to

919
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 2: that building?

920
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 7: Well, you remember Soldier Field existed before the Bears played there, Yeah,

921
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 7: for like seventy years or whatever.

922
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: But now they got the spaceship on top of it.

923
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 7: They do have the spaceship on top, so that you know,

924
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 7: I don't I don't know what they're going to do.

925
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 7: I think the spaceship has to stay as a relic

926
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 7: of the past. But listen, they'll get they'll get, you know,

927
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 7: football games, they'll get college football games, they'll get sock,

928
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 7: a lot of soccer, a lot of concerts. Now they'd

929
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 7: have to compete with the new Bear Stadium for a

930
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 7: lot of that stuff, So that'll be interesting. You know,

931
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 7: someone told me once I asked someone about buying the

932
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 7: White Sox, the guy with money, and he said, yeah,

933
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 7: if they you know, if the Bears moved and then

934
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 7: the White Sox take over that stadium, I would do it.

935
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 7: That would be interesting.

936
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 8: Yeah, John, I just got one and appreciate your time again.

937
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 8: John Greenberg with us here from the Fletic. If you

938
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 8: just did like a simple pole like we've never really

939
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 8: had to go through this, obviously we're very centrally located.

940
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 8: But if you just did like a simple poll like

941
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 8: Bears fans, would you care if the team played in Indiana?

942
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 8: Unless not? Thatt's soro iowa out the window. Like I mean,

943
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 8: from a commute standpoint, I don't know, maybe to some

944
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 8: people that would be a quicker commute than Arlington Heights, say,

945
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 8: obviously based off where you live within the city, But

946
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 8: like what how overwhelming would people be against that? Like

947
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 8: would it be ninety ten? Would it be ninety nine one?

948
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 8: Like I'm trying to gauge it.

949
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 7: I you know, I think there's still some state pride,

950
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 7: so I think it would probably be like sixty forty

951
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 7: against it. But you're not.

952
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 8: That's the only one. That's what you're saying. What you said,

953
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 8: not not like crazily against it, sixty forty. But that's

954
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 8: kind of surprise essentially people.

955
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 7: Well, I think it's because, like you said, there's a

956
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 7: lot of people who live in the South suburbs or

957
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 7: people that live in the city where. Listen, what I've

958
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 7: been saying to people all along is getting Arlington Heights

959
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 7: is no picnic because, like James, I was a prep

960
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 7: writer and I used to work right for the Daily

961
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 7: Herald in that area where it is, and I would

962
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 7: drive from the city and that was horrible. I can

963
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 7: only imagine what it's going to be like for game days,

964
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 7: even with the commuter train that goes up there. So no,

965
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 7: it's probably greater than that. But I think people would

966
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 7: get used to it if it was like in Northwest

967
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 7: Indiana was a great market for them to move and

968
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 7: there was just like all this prosperity there. But it's

969
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 7: really like, listen, I'm from an area of Ohio that's

970
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 7: exactly like Northwest Indiana. So it would be like the

971
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 7: Pittsburgh Steelers move into Stubenville, Ohio, and that's just a

972
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 7: weird in West Virginia, and that's just like, yeah, it

973
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 7: just sounds bad, and I think that's I just don't

974
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 7: think the Bears, with all the ties to the state

975
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 7: of Illinois, I don't think George McCaskey would ever want

976
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 7: to do that. I think he would it would be

977
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 7: a black mark on his fan, on his part of

978
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 7: his family's legacy.

979
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 6: John, I only wanted to happen just so I controlled

980
00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 6: my family. Well, now you know the Illinois Indiana Transplant

981
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 6: now has two teams in the state of Indiana.

982
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 7: Take that, I mean the James boyd Angle has been underplayed. Yes,

983
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 7: but I do think you know I would before that

984
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 7: for you.

985
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 4: Trolling your family in Northwest Indiana's in play. If the

986
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 4: state of Indiana agrees to take back Diowa Dangle and

987
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 4: his contract, that comes off the books for Chicago.

988
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 5: There you go.

989
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: Mark is winning the day to day.

990
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: I love it, all right, John, thanks so much for

991
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 3: stopping by this morning. We appreciate your time, and I

992
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 3: know Mark feels a little bit better this morning.

993
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 7: Now, all right, anytime, guys, I'll see at the combine.