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Speaker 2: Exactly, and Grand Rising family, and welcome to Wednesday. It's

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Speaker 2: William Barbara will be here and it'll take over our classroom.

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Speaker 2: Reverend Barbara will preview his upcoming presentation today before the

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Speaker 2: US Supreme Court. Doctor Barbara will also update us on

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Speaker 2: his moral Monday's rallies. But before Doctor Barbara the Faith

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Speaker 2: Before we hear from the clergy, though afrocology professor doctor

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Speaker 2: non Duff from Temple University will check in that. But

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Speaker 2: to get us started moment, Chellia will be joined by

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Speaker 2: the President of the one Hundred Fathers that'll be Frank

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Speaker 2: Malone and also PG County Prince George's County and Maryland

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Speaker 2: the Commissioner Anthony Talman. But first of let's get Kevin

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Speaker 2: to reopen our classroom doors and kind Rising Kevin.

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Speaker 3: Grand Rising, indeed, Cal Nelson, how you're feeling, my man,

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Speaker 3: how you feeling.

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Speaker 2: I'm still learning, Kevin, I'm still learning.

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Speaker 3: Hey, well, there's nothing wrong with that. It's the first

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Speaker 3: the year has been. But sometimes they call this April

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Speaker 3: Fools in certain circles.

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Speaker 2: I didn't look up do the research of why they

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Speaker 2: call it that. Well, let me ask you, are you suspicious?

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Speaker 2: Do you want these suspicious people?

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not a suspicious person.

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Speaker 3: I kind of like just take people at face value,

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Speaker 3: you know, and I'm lanse fair. If it's good for you,

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Speaker 3: then it must be good for the world. Live and

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Speaker 3: let live, live and let live Yeah right, yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: is that what that means in French?

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Speaker 2: Al as it fair? No, I think it means just

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Speaker 2: go a lot easy, something I've I made for.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it means live free.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Well, well, we had your guests on the line, but

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Speaker 3: the phone drops, so we're going to have to punt.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, if they drop, they have them call us back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: So the uh so, the key arguments in the birthright

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Speaker 1: Trump versus.

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Speaker 3: Barbara is a challenge for President Donald Trump's January twenty

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Speaker 3: fifth executive order seeking to end birthright citizenship. All of

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Speaker 3: the lower courts that have weighed in so far have

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Speaker 3: misunderstanding of the Constitution. The challenges counter that the Trump

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Speaker 1: So who's the.

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Speaker 3: Better constitutional lawyer, the Supreme Court or the President?

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Speaker 2: Of course, because they're lawyers, all of them. Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: William Barber I didn't know it was Barbara versus Trump.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be a nice way to get a deeper understanding.

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Speaker 3: We'll take a deeper dive into all of this, because

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Speaker 2: At least looking for a win though, Kevin, you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he seems to be must see TV half the time.

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Speaker 3: News One reports that TSA agents were told to return

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Speaker 3: Billionaire filmmaker Tyler Perry tried twice to provide financial assistance

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the whole thing about the gift cards is done.

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Speaker 1: That's the way it is. Come. Thanks for your time.

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Speaker 2: Back, all right, thank you, Kevin. All right, I guess

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Speaker 2: from one hundred fathers. Frank belongs Frank. They US grind

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Speaker 5: It's been a minute, it's been a minute, but we've

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Speaker 2: Well good, and I hope we have a PG County

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Speaker 5: That's correct. I don't know if I need to wake

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Speaker 4: I called in.

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Speaker 2: us because you're having an evan, you're looking out that.

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Speaker 2: And Frank works tirelessly for our for our people, family,

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Speaker 5: Well Commissioner Anthony Tillman, who's been a fighter for fatherhood rights.

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Speaker 5: but they can learn, and our father's love is essential

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Speaker 5: And so my son was getting into trouble doing other things,

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Speaker 2: Frank twenty four after the time of our family, just

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Speaker 5: Yes, they did to try to slow him down. That's

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Speaker 5: All I know is I finally got my son through school,

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Speaker 2: All right family twenty eight At the top the out

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Speaker 5: April's a second all over the world Global Autism Month.

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Speaker 5: Got to advocate for children that have these infirmities. It's

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Speaker 2: But you know what, let me tell me here for

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Speaker 5: Parents began to take a look at what they need

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Speaker 5: You know, they call.

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Speaker 5: That's not the case cases and they need to learn

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Speaker 5: It's not going to do it for them. They need

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Speaker 5: and make sure we get the services. We gotta legislate.

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Speaker 5: We got to make sure that the policies allow fathers

440
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Speaker 5: and mothers to get these services for these kids.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I got to ask you this thirty minutes

442
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Speaker 2: out of the top of our family. Thanks for waking

443
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Speaker 2: up with Frank Malan from one hundred men with us today.

444
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Speaker 2: Frank the question I got to ask you the teachers.

445
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Speaker 2: Could you sue the DC school district? Right sore teachers

446
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 2: now able to determine that child's autistic? Who are sending

447
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 2: him off to get a shot? Or do they call

448
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 2: it the parents and say, listen, I think young Johnny

449
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: has an issue here. You might want to get him

450
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 2: checked out and see a psychologist child psychologist because he's

451
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 2: acting out in class, and you know, and it could

452
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Speaker 2: be you know, and they tell it possibly it could

453
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Speaker 2: be it called the autistic, and I want to know,

454
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Speaker 2: you know, the background of the family. Did you also

455
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Speaker 2: go into that required teachers in the do that or

456
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 2: do they just, you know, samarily just send them over

457
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Speaker 2: to the medical errors so they can get a shot

458
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Speaker 2: or some pills.

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Speaker 6: It's a requirement that if a child has.

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Speaker 5: What we call it needs for special education within the law,

461
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 5: they have to evaluate this child and come up with

462
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Speaker 5: the plan. But it starts with the parent. The parent

463
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 5: has to advocate for their child. The parent has to

464
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 5: educate themselves about what laws protect that child and what

465
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Speaker 5: the school system has to do to accommodate a child

466
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Speaker 5: that just doesn't learn the same way as other children.

467
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Speaker 5: You know, they will quick to label our young black

468
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 5: boys a special edge. But it's a different story. I

469
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Speaker 5: got a program and one of the school's operating right

470
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 5: now with young black boys, but seem like they listen

471
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Speaker 5: to black men. We don't have that problem. We can

472
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Speaker 5: communicate with them through love but in a different way,

473
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Speaker 5: and they learn. And so we have to be really,

474
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Speaker 5: really cautious about how we allow our children to be liable,

475
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Speaker 5: to be educated, and to be treated, especially young black boys.

476
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Speaker 5: Many of them are brilliant, but they just don't have

477
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Speaker 5: the tools to let that brilliance come out.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this though, Frank twenty six away

480
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Speaker 2: from the top of the I would come from a breakthrough.

481
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Speaker 2: So I got to ask you this question because she

482
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Speaker 2: said it was genetic. Did you feel when it's genetic

483
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Speaker 2: that means it runs in the family. Did you feel

484
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Speaker 2: any way that I may have get passed on this

485
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Speaker 2: issue to my child? Did you feel anyway guilty?

486
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Speaker 5: Well, in my particular case, I adopted. I adopted my children,

487
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Speaker 5: so I'm not to cast any dispersions at anything, but

488
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Speaker 5: some of my children were adopted. So as a father

489
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 5: and leader and with a great mother, we recognized the

490
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 5: children needed that you know, he needed extra help, and

491
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 5: so we went to work as a team and tried

492
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Speaker 5: to figure out what was the best way to save

493
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Speaker 5: this life.

494
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Speaker 6: And we were.

495
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Speaker 5: Successful because we got our child the services. We forced

496
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Speaker 5: the school system to do what they are supposed to do,

497
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Speaker 5: which is to educate our children using the best tools

498
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Speaker 5: that they have. And if they can, you can sue

499
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Speaker 5: them for to get your child the services that they must.

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Speaker 6: And it worked.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, my particular case, I uh, kids buy by

502
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Speaker 5: marriage and kids by by a previous.

503
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Speaker 6: Marriage, and the kids by adoption.

504
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Speaker 5: I'm one of them kind of fathers, got all kind

505
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Speaker 5: of children.

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Speaker 2: And let me tell you, Frank, let me just congratulate

507
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: you on the adoption issue. And let me tell you

508
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: this family. If you go to any of these agencies

509
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: where children don't have any parents and they're looking for adoption,

510
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 2: many of those young children look like us. We had

511
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 2: this discussion on the air one year and this lady

512
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: invited me come down works for La County to see

513
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: these children. There was a there was a mass of

514
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Speaker 2: these young young children waiting for somebody to adopt them.

515
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 2: And you know, if you want to take all of

516
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: them home, it was possible and I looked down and said, wow,

517
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: what are we doing wrong? Why are we abounding in

518
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: our children? It was just the place was filled. It

519
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: was all little black boys and girls waiting for somebody

520
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: to adopt themselves. Man, I just got I just got

521
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Speaker 2: to thank you for doing that. I just wish more

522
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: of us would do what you did, because some of

523
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 2: our children are languishing in these homes and then at

524
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 2: at eighteen they get turned out on the streets. They

525
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: have to fend for themselves and right now, as you know,

526
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: it's pretty tough out there. So Frank, I just want

527
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 2: to think on that tip. Man, I just got to

528
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: raise my hat tock because I've seen that with my

529
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: own eyes. You know. They told me to come down,

530
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Speaker 2: and it's mind blowing. If people could see that, everyone

531
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Speaker 2: would do what you did and adopt well one of

532
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Speaker 2: my children. But Frank, thank you again. I can't underscore

533
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: how proud I am for you and doing that because

534
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: you have the resources to do it in the time,

535
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: and your family knows that this is what you're gonna

536
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: do as a family. You made that decision to adopt

537
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: your child even though it's got autism. Listen, we got

538
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: to take a break. We got to check with the

539
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: latest new trafficking weight in our different cities. So let

540
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: me come back though. Tell us how your son is

541
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: doing today. How is hez adjusted? Does they still have

542
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: to need help as an as adult, as a young adult.

543
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: I don't know how old he is, but tell us

544
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: what's going on with him today. Family, you two can

545
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: get in our conversation with our guest that from the

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Speaker 2: one hundred Fathers in Washington, d C. His name is

547
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: Frank Malone. You know how to reach him. Hit us

548
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: up at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six.

549
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: We'll take phone calls after news. That's next and Grand

550
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: Rising family, thanks for waking up with us on this

551
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: Wednesday morning. It's a hump day. That means we're halfway

552
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: through the workweek with Frank Malone. Frank is in Washington, DC,

553
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: is the founder of one one hundred Black Men and

554
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 2: also he was discussing discussing the autism and black dads.

555
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: They have an event taking place this weekend he's going

556
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Speaker 2: to share with us before we go back to doctor

557
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: Frank Malone. Though, let me just remind your corme up

558
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: later this morning, we're gonna speak with activists and social activists,

559
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: and the Reverend doctor William Barbera will be here. You know,

560
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: he's going to testify before the Supreme Court this morning,

561
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: so he's going to get a preview on that birthright

562
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: issue also. But before doctor Barbara, the Faith Brothers are

563
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: going to address the issue of racism and religion. And

564
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: before we get involved with the clerk afrocology professor at

565
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: a Temple University. Doctor now Douvil check in and tomorrow

566
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: DC actress Brother Obi will be here along with Paul

567
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: Pumphrey of Friends of the Congo. Has got some Congolese

568
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: brothers and sisters are going to bring along and also

569
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: the Master Teacher Ashra Kosi's going to break down all

570
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: the symbols of Easter, the Easter season for us as well.

571
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: So if you are in Baltimore, make sure that radio

572
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: is locked in tight on ten ten WLB or if

573
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Speaker 2: we're in the DMV the Washington DC ERA on fourteen

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Speaker 2: fifty w o L. All right, Frank, I'm gonna let

575
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: you finish that tell us about because you gotch your

576
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: son and those of you just join in late discovered

577
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: doctor Franklin alone discovered he's in the front of this

578
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: autism issue, especially for black dads found out that his

579
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: son was autistic because his son was acting out in

580
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 2: the classroom and sadly after they gave him some of

581
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: these drugs, of the psychotropic drugs they like to give

582
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: our children, but they found out that he was on

583
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: the spectrum and they, Frank sue the school district in Washington,

584
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 2: d C. They won the lawsuit, but they moved a

585
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: child to another school and the child is doing graduated

586
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: the least. So how's he doing? Now, that's my question, Frank,

587
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: how's he has he adjusted yet?

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00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 5: He's been out for a job to find his next

589
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 5: way up. He says he wants to go to school

590
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 5: to do some stuff online. So we're still working with him.

591
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 5: But he's a great individual and he has an opportunity.

592
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 5: Hasn't been arrested. Great guy, just needs guidance. So we're

593
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 5: still a work in progress. Okay, but he has his

594
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 5: own plate and he's trying to make his way. But

595
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 5: I wanted to first I want you to know Commissioner

596
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 5: Anthony Tilden is hoy that's working with me on this.

597
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 5: The Commissioner of District Heights Maryland who is working with

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Speaker 5: me to do Fathers, Dads and Autism. On April and fourth,

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00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 5: Trindydad Baptist Church from ten to four sixty eleven Welcome

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Speaker 5: Mill Road, Capitol Heights, Marria eight. We'll be four show

601
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 5: up and come and get some information. Secondly, I want

602
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 5: you to know there's a number of people can call

603
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 5: to get help with Partners with Parent Help. That number

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00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:24,479
Speaker 5: is one eight hundred seven one six three four six eight.

605
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 5: If you have problem with your kids, visitation, parent differences, arguments,

606
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 5: all of that, call our Partners Parent Help. This is

607
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 5: the one hundred Fathers dot Org. That's who you're talking with.

608
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 5: And I'm doctor Frank Malone, the godfather of the DMV,

609
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 5: and what we do is fatherhood. I also want you

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00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 5: to know I gotta come back on and talk about

611
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 5: the one hundred and fifty four billion dollar man the

612
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 5: latest research where fathers have been left out, but we've

613
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 5: got to step up. Now back to what you asked

614
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Speaker 5: me to speak on. It's going to require a father

615
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 5: and a mother working together. We call that co parenting.

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Speaker 6: If the child is not in the family, but the.

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Speaker 5: Father has to learn education just by us being a

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00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 5: part of a child's education, they will be successful. All

619
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Speaker 5: the latest research says when a father gets involved with

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Speaker 5: a child's education, that child mostly will be successful and excellent.

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Speaker 5: So I want to encourage fathers to think about the

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Speaker 5: influence you have over your child. Do it in love,

623
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Speaker 5: but do it stand up, show up, and speak up.

624
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 5: That's the message we want to bring. There are services,

625
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 5: supports and opportunities, but you've got to be willing to

626
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 5: be the representative. When you're baker cake, you gotta have

627
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 5: father in that cake to make it.

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Speaker 2: Hole And who I thought right there, doctor maloan at

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Speaker 2: twelve away from the top of you said, we have

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Speaker 2: a Commissioner Tillman with us, right, is he there with us? Yes,

631
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Speaker 2: Commissai Tillman, grand rising, I'm not hearing Commissioner Tillman.

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Speaker 5: He told me he was on home, all right, I'm.

633
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Speaker 2: Not hearing him. Okay, well we'll just move on. Commissioner Tillman.

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Speaker 2: If you if you just jump in at any time

635
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 2: you feel like it, because I'm not hearing you right now.

636
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Speaker 2: But let me ask you this though, Frank, is there

637
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: still a stigma attached to children with autism and when

638
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: they grow up to be young adults. And still, you know,

639
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 2: in school, they could people find the autistic, they could

640
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: be teased us, you know, and teasing borderline bullying if

641
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: you will. Is it still a stigma attached to that

642
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: when when they when they're announced that they have an issue.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, That's why I had to save my son and get.

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Speaker 6: Him out of that.

645
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 5: Uh be easily influenced. Sometimes these kids want to be

646
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 5: a part of a group, any group, and then I

647
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 5: valued as they should be. That's why it's so important

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00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 5: for parents to advocate for their children. If you see something,

649
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 5: if you see something different, you gotta do something different.

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Speaker 5: Would they say insanity is doing the same things and

651
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 5: looking for different results. We are advocates.

652
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Speaker 6: We're saying, hey, hold it, let's stop.

653
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 5: Let's call them to the table and say, how can

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Speaker 5: my son get a better education? What can be done?

655
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 5: How can my daughter get a better education? And what

656
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 5: does the school offer? Take advantage of that? Get involved.

657
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 5: This is the difference between success and failure. And as

658
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 5: a father, it's a new day. I'm trying to tell

659
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 5: y'all this new information. As out says, fathers have to

660
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 5: step up, show up, and speak up.

661
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 6: We can't follow. We have to leave.

662
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 5: It's in the Bible, It's in.

663
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 6: All the words.

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Speaker 5: So what we're actually doing is stepping up as parents,

665
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 5: human beings saying we care about our children. We see

666
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 5: there's a difference in what they're showing, and we want

667
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 5: the best for our child. So that's what this is

668
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 5: all about, to get into the aspects of autism and

669
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 5: Asperger's syndrome and all of the other labels they had.

670
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 5: You know, if your child is exhibiting behavior contrary to

671
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 5: what's needed, get involved, call the school, make them evaluate

672
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 5: your child, and give you the services that they have

673
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 5: to get. That's where that special education comes in.

674
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Frank, I thank you for doing that again. You've

675
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: been so active and so supportive and just creating this

676
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 2: one hundred father's group alone, you know, getting brothers to

677
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: understand that it's important to be involved in their children's lives.

678
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: It's nine minutes away from the top of they always

679
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 2: go to a line seven. Sister for him is checking

680
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 2: in from Washington, DC. She wants to speak with you,

681
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 2: Grand rising and system for him. You're on with doctor

682
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 2: Frank Malone.

683
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 8: Yes, good morning thisthing else and good morning to your jask.

684
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 8: I met doctor Malone wants. Many years ago, he was

685
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 8: at a NAN meeting over in Anacostia and they were

686
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 8: doing work in the schools. But I'm calling in to

687
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 8: share some information that might be helpful to his son

688
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 8: and anyone in the listening audience. And I sent the

689
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 8: information to you, Carl, so you can afford with your

690
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 8: doctum Malone.

691
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 4: The program is.

692
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 8: Called Project Search and it's at the Smithsonian Institute where

693
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 8: they hire young adults who have disabilities and also work

694
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 8: with them for a year and transition them to school

695
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 8: and they may very well get employment with the Smithsonian Institute.

696
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 8: It's called Project Search. Doesn't listening on as they can

697
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 8: go online and just put Smithsonian Institute Project Search for

698
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 8: Disability for employment for adults with disability. But I did

699
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 8: send the information to you, Carl, so you can send

700
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 8: it to doctor Malone. And doctor Malone again, I met

701
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 8: you a number of years ago at a meeting, and

702
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 8: just continue the work that you're doing. It's invaluable.

703
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,959
Speaker 5: Thank you, sister, Thank you, God bless you. And then yes,

704
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 5: I worked directly with DC and then so we're still involved.

705
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 5: We still got to stand in struggle with people like

706
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 5: Carlin Nelson we get the word out and change the

707
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 5: paradigm for bothers men and boys.

708
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 6: Thank you all right.

709
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 2: And I'll get that information to you, Frank, so you

710
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: can you know, because it's difficult even if without some

711
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: issues getting a job these days, but especially if they

712
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: figure that you've got autists and or you've got uh.

713
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 2: I hate to call the disease. How could I describe it,

714
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: Frank without being degrading.

715
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 5: Well, it's a spectrum of It's not just one thing,

716
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 5: and everybody not affected the same. There's different levels. Some

717
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 5: of these kids. I know, my wife works with a

718
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 5: young man that has Aspergers syndrome. Okay, but he's producing.

719
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 5: He's good in a certain area.

720
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 6: And computers and it's brilliant.

721
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 5: So these people may not have what you have, but

722
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 5: God gives them something different that they can be good

723
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,959
Speaker 5: at and we've got to value that. So I love

724
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 5: this project Search Opportunity. I'm gonna bring that to the

725
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 5: conference on Saturday at Matthew's Baptist Church and welcome a

726
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 5: more welcome mirror walkom Mill Road on Saturday sat. Matthew's

727
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 5: Church Saturday from April to four. We're gonna talk about

728
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 5: black dads and autism and what we've got to do.

729
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 5: It's not a dirty word. It's a word that we

730
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 5: need to take a look at and help our children.

731
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: You know, five away from the top, I come out

732
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: another break real soon. But I just want to thank

733
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 2: Sister for Hima for providing that information with us, because

734
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 2: as again, it's difficult to find a job if you

735
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 2: don't have issues, but only certain certain people employed people

736
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: who have autism or any special issues that need because

737
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: you know, their thing about profit first and not thinking

738
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: about helping the community. Most most employers are doing that.

739
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: So I thank if Sister Faiman, I will get that

740
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 2: message over to Dr Malone and hopefully anybody else who's listening.

741
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 2: As a child, it was on the spectrum and it's

742
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 2: growing up now looking for a job like like doctor

743
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 2: Malone's son is can can can you utilize that information

744
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 2: you supplied us with you know, doctor mall again, I

745
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 2: just want to thank you for doing this. But why

746
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 2: did you find you started one hundred Black men? Let's

747
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 2: go there first. What made you want to start that

748
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 2: advocate for black dads?

749
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 6: It's the one hundred fathers.

750
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 5: There is a one hundred black men and I've been

751
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 5: on with them, but I focus on We focus on

752
00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 5: the fathers because fatherhood is the most important phenomenon for

753
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 5: black families. And when the black men there's to be present,

754
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 5: authentic and affirming, it changes everything. So we're training then

755
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 5: all over Maryland. We're training young men in DC to

756
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 5: be a man, and we're leading by example. Go to

757
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 5: our website. W w has got one hundred fathers dot org.

758
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 5: Were the ordinary men doing extraordinary things. But here's how

759
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 5: I got started.

760
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 9: Called.

761
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: I was, well, you know what hold that Dr Malone?

762
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 2: I thought, right there with hunters and the clock, we

763
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: got to check the traffic and weather in at different cities.

764
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 2: I'll let you explain that when we get back. It's

765
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 2: four minutes away from the top of our family. That's

766
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: doctor Franklin and Malone out of Washington, DC. He's a

767
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 2: found of one hundred fathers and they have an event

768
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: taking place this weekend. They're saluting the young man with

769
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 2: autism and they're going to share how you can help.

770
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 2: If you have a friend or you have a child

771
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: who's autistic, you know how to reach us. Eight hundred

772
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Speaker 2: four five zero seventy eight seventy six. We'll take calls

773
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: next after we check the news at Trafficking Weather and

774
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 2: Grand Rising Family. Thanks for starting your morning with us

775
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 2: in the first day of April. Welcome to April, and

776
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 2: also welcome to Wednesday. Wednesday it's it's it's a hop day.

777
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: I means we're having through the work week of our guess,

778
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 2: doctor Franklin Malone from one Hundred Fathers on deck. We

779
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: have doctor and our Dove from Temple University. We got

780
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 2: to talk to doctor Dove, she's an afrocologist. In momentary,

781
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 2: let's wrap up with Frank. My question to Frank before

782
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 2: we left for the traffic update, was you started. You're

783
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: the founder and the CEO of one hundred Fathers. So

784
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: made you become an advocate for black fathers. What was

785
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,479
Speaker 2: it that you start? Why you started this group?

786
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 5: Frank just quickly, I'm a DC boy, came up in

787
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 5: Southeast Washington. I ended up getting a job at Altan, Virginia,

788
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 5: right in the ghetto. While I was there, I opened

789
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 5: the program and the kids didn't have fathers, and so

790
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 5: I brought the fathers in and these kids scored the

791
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 5: highest on their standard of learning exams of anybody in

792
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 5: the region. And we started getting money and they said,

793
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 5: how did you do it? And it was the love

794
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 5: of a father that changed the lives of these young people.

795
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 5: So I got with doctor Jeff Johnson and some other

796
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 5: national leaders put together the hundred fathers came into the

797
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 5: DC region and now we're in Maryland, DC and Virginia

798
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 5: and nationwide. We know that our father's loved changes everything.

799
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 5: If a father can learn to be available, present and affirming,

800
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 5: he can change a child's light. That's what we do.

801
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 5: We as certified fathers with mess the trainers. I'm about

802
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 5: to train the Sheriff's office shout support fathers. We're all

803
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 5: over Maryland training fathers in ten counties. We know that

804
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 5: fatherhood is the difference maker for our children and families,

805
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 5: and so we're not really need to stand up, show

806
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 5: up and stepper because a father has to lead by example.

807
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: Wow, Frank, I thank you, thank you, and I thank

808
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 2: you for doing that. And he've been on the case

809
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 2: ever since. Now, you have an event for autism this

810
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 2: weekend in Capitol Heights, Maryland. Can you explain what that

811
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: event is? Can you give us some more information about that?

812
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 5: Frank, Yes, Commissioner Anthony Tilman asked us to step in

813
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 5: for Black Dad's and Autism at Matthew's Baptist Church, sixty

814
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 5: eleventh Walker Mill Road, Saturday, from ten to one. We'll

815
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 5: be talking about the services father's need, what we need

816
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 5: to do to service our children, our experiences. We're also

817
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 5: looking to change policy and legislation so that we can

818
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 5: be better dads and serve our children. So that's what's

819
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 5: gonna happen April of fourth, from ten to one at

820
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 5: Matthews's Baptist Church. Commissioner Anthony Killman, who's a great advocate

821
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 5: all over the state, is going to bring that message

822
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 5: and so I'm looking forward to bringing the Fatherhood movement

823
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 5: into this arena.

824
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: We gotta do it right, and you work closer with

825
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: black women form positive change as well. So I want

826
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 2: to thank you for working with the sisters.

827
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 5: Let me say this, there's no other way it's gonna happen.

828
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 5: The black men and the black women have to work together.

829
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 5: God made Adam and Eve. Come on, y'all, let's get

830
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 5: on the page. The victory is gonna be when the

831
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 5: black men and the black women like we're doing work together.

832
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 5: Thank you, Doctor Stephans match Well, those are our black women.

833
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,760
Speaker 5: They stand with us.

834
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: All right, thank you, Frank, and thank you what you

835
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 2: do for our for our children, especially for our what

836
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 2: you've done with one hundred fathers. You've corralled and got

837
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of black men together to look differently

838
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 2: about about their children, because you know, we have brothers

839
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 2: get a bad rap when it comes to being dads,

840
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 2: and sometimes what you do disproves that this show there

841
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: are a lot of good fathers out there, Black fathers

842
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 2: out there who take care of the children, are concerned

843
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 2: about their children's welfare. So I just want to thank you,

844
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 2: Frank for doing that.

845
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 5: Please bring me back when my new book doesn't do

846
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 5: twenty first century fathers.

847
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,959
Speaker 6: And men, I'm get ready to go out over the nation.

848
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 5: If we define what a black man is. That's what

849
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 5: we're doing in the school. Give me a shot when

850
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 5: you get a chance.

851
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 2: Well, when we get the book, just give me a

852
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 2: call before you go, Frank. Though, Sister Denise has called

853
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 2: us from Richmond, Virgina. She's got a question or inflamment

854
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 2: in face she wants to share with us. She's online too.

855
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 2: Kevin Islami Lekam, Sister Denise, doctor.

856
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 10: Frank Malone well in Salam brother crazy. Thank you for

857
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 10: taking my call. Oh, I'm not gonna be long. I

858
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 10: enjoyed with the brother information that he shared with the audience.

859
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 10: I wanted to state that I've done quite much work

860
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 10: in that area of autists. And then how it has

861
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 10: affected our children, especially a black boys. If we say

862
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 10: and really analyze this, let's look at the seventies and

863
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 10: eighties and the nineties, we never saw this in our children.

864
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 10: We might have had a very low number of children

865
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 10: that was affected with this soft situation. But oh, I

866
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 10: truly believe from what I have researched, is that MMR

867
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 10: vaccine has contributed to our children are coming down with this.

868
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 10: And the reason why I'm saying this is because there

869
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Speaker 10: was a CDC professor, CDC doctor. His name is Timothy

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Speaker 10: Timothy Cuttingham. He was found murdered in one of the

871
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Speaker 10: lakes rivers in George and Atlanta. He went around, Okay,

872
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Speaker 10: he he was there when it was being developed this

873
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 10: vaccine that would affect black boys. He went around and

874
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 10: start telling his neighbors stop giving the children your children

875
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Speaker 10: in the vaccine. He went around and he just was

876
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Speaker 10: trying to tell the spread the word to everyone. Next

877
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 10: thing not this brother comes from dead. You can look

878
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 10: it up Timything Cunningham. They try to say he committed suicide. Well,

879
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 10: you know we always hearing that because he was going

880
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 10: up for promotion and he was denied to promotion. No,

881
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 10: that's not true. They said that brother was the best

882
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Speaker 10: scientist that CDC had ever had. Then we had this doctor,

883
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Speaker 10: doctor Thompson. We've been trying to get him to come

884
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Speaker 10: into Congress to what you called he was. He put

885
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 10: it out there, he said, yes, it is. The vaccines

886
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 10: is doing it. Now. My grandsons, when they were little,

887
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Speaker 10: I had them going to this black pediatrician.

888
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Speaker 5: I took them.

889
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 10: I got my daughter to remove them from her and

890
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 10: this other black pediatrician, because I believe that they and

891
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 10: some of our studies have shown that they have made

892
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 10: sure they put those vaccines in the hands of black

893
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 10: doctors because they knew who most black doctors, most black

894
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 10: pediatricians are going to be serving who black children. And

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Speaker 10: so I had them removed from those doctors, and I

896
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Speaker 10: had my grandchildren sent to this Jewish, so called Jewish doctor.

897
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Speaker 10: I said, well, they're gonna it's the same that they're

898
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Speaker 10: gonna get vaccines. Because I'm not against vaccines. I just

899
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Speaker 10: want to make sure they are the right ones. So

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Speaker 10: I sent my cheerit up there to this Jewish doctor

901
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 10: and got their vaccines from there, and of course they

902
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 10: churned out fine. But I truly believe for my research.

903
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 10: Now what I used to do is I used.

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Speaker 2: To and a disease. Denise, Can you cut it right

905
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 2: real quick because we got another guest on deck time.

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Speaker 10: You respect that. But I was just going to say,

907
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Speaker 10: I just do a lot of work giving our flyers

908
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Speaker 10: and giving our information. Thank you so much, brother Call

909
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Speaker 10: for taking.

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Speaker 2: My call, and I hope and thank you for what

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00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 2: you do a sister, Denise, thank you, yes, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 10: All right, we have to ask everybody please do your

914
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 10: own research and look up tiviots to cutting hawn.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much, Brother Call.

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you, sister, Thank you Frank as well.

917
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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for sharing all this great information

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Speaker 2: this morning. Family, it's ten after the top of the

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Speaker 2: Alice turn over to doctor and Nole Dove now out

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Speaker 2: of Template University, Grand Rising, Doctor Dove, welcome back to

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Speaker 2: the program.

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Speaker 11: Thank you, Grand Rising, and thank you so much for

923
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Speaker 11: inviting me.

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Speaker 4: It's my honors.

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Speaker 2: Well it's our honor to have you and thank you

926
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Speaker 2: for being so patient with us, doctor Douve, Doctor Dove.

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Speaker 2: We want to discuss the effects of cultural domination. You know,

928
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 2: when you talk about cultural domination, self of us don't

929
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 2: understand what that means. Can you explain how you interpret

930
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 2: cultural domination to.

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Speaker 11: Be Yes, culture as a discipline is not really shown

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Speaker 11: to be very important, but it is important because it

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Speaker 11: affects the whole of humanity. We are cultural beings, which

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Speaker 11: means that our minds are attached to the way of

935
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Speaker 11: thinking and behaving and performing, living and creating and developing.

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Speaker 11: And culture is the kind of umbrella that we use

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Speaker 11: to bring ourselves together to understand the world. So if

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Speaker 11: you don't have culture in your analysis, it's very hard

939
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Speaker 11: to understand our power powers as human beings. Now, culture,

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00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 11: cultural domination is very important. We normally say a colonial domination,

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Speaker 11: you know, as a way of expressing what happens to

942
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Speaker 11: people who are conquered and then have to practice and

943
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Speaker 11: think the ways that the conquerors deem. It's a whole process.

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Speaker 11: But inside this domination, inside the coldization of people of

945
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Speaker 11: people's minds, is culture. So the people who are conquering,

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Speaker 11: the people bring with them their cultural beliefs and values,

947
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Speaker 11: and the people that they're conquering, they do everything to

948
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Speaker 11: prevent those people from carrying out their cultural values and beliefs.

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Speaker 11: And so culture is so significant that it informs all

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Speaker 11: institutions that are built by people. All institutions like family, law, education, healthcare, religion, politics,

951
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Speaker 11: governing structures. These are all culturally oriented, and every cultural

952
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Speaker 11: group will develop it institutions, ways of living, ways of thinking,

953
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Speaker 11: ways of building, ways of understanding within that cultural orientation.

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Speaker 11: So an example is here where the original people were killed,

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Speaker 11: not all, but it was the process of genocide, and

956
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Speaker 11: then African people were enslaved from the continent and brought here. Now,

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Speaker 11: the culture that did that, the cultural group that did

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Speaker 11: that believed in murder and domination as a way of

959
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Speaker 11: claiming the resources of the people and using Africans straight

960
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Speaker 11: from the continent, enslaving African people here to use them

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Speaker 11: as the resource to build this land in the shape

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Speaker 11: and forms that they wished for both sets of groups.

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Speaker 11: The first nations people historically are the first Africans that

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Speaker 11: came to this continent because everyone, all our ancestors are

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Speaker 11: born in Africa. So the first migrations out of Africa

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Speaker 11: of African people became across the world that they populated

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Speaker 11: the world. They were the first nations people of the world.

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Speaker 11: So much later a cultural orientation that arose out of

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Speaker 11: scarcity and their way of existing was to conquer places

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Speaker 11: where people had everything that they need. In reality, the

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Speaker 11: values and beliefs that those people conquered was that you

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Speaker 11: can share our resources. That the African cultural orientation from

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Speaker 11: the ancient and the original one. But this lay to

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Speaker 11: cultural orientation when it saw it took what it wanted

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Speaker 11: when it wanted, in the way it wanted and that and.

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Speaker 2: Hold, I thought right there, doctor Doff, because I'm following

977
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Speaker 2: you closely, and we got to take a quick break

978
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Speaker 2: there at seventeen after the top. That when we come

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Speaker 2: back though, this cultural domination was it our fault? Was

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Speaker 2: our ancestors fault for not maintaining their culture even though

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Speaker 2: they were enslaved. We saw many of us can recall

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Speaker 2: the movie Roots when they beat him and said his

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Speaker 2: name wasn't was Toby given him an European name? And

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Speaker 2: then it seems like that group of those who had

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Speaker 2: slaved Africans, who came from the count and gave up

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Speaker 2: or relinquished or did not continue their culture, and now

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Speaker 2: they have European culture. Explain that if that's the issue

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Speaker 2: we're discussing this morning, family, you two can get this

989
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 2: fascinating discussion with our guests. She teaches what she terms

990
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Speaker 2: Afrocology at Temple University in Philly. Her name is doctor

991
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Speaker 2: Nod Dove. You know how to get in touch with it.

992
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 2: Just call us up at eight hundred four or five

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01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 2: zero seventy eight seventy six. We'll take your phone calls

994
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 2: next and Grand Rising family, thanks for starting the month

995
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Speaker 2: of April Villas. It's April first, where they're already, and

996
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 2: it's also a Wednesday, as I mentioned, that's hun day.

997
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Speaker 2: We're halfway through the work week. Our guest is doctor

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Speaker 2: Nod Dove. Doctor Dove works along with one of our

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Speaker 2: power talkers, dodtr Malefia Sante at Temple University. It teaches

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Speaker 2: a class called Africology, a series called Africology. This morning,

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Speaker 2: she's explaining to us the effects of cultural domination and basically,

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Speaker 2: doctor dev what I said before the break, is that correct?

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Speaker 2: Is that why we don't know who we are?

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Speaker 11: Yes? First, of all culture what it is. It's transmitted

1005
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 11: through behaviors, beliefs, and values from our ancestors to our descendants.

1006
01:01:56,080 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 11: It carries the memory of our existence and experience seriences.

1007
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 11: With knowledge, we can remember who we are. Its historical,

1008
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 11: psycho spiritual, linguistic, and evidence of culture's existence is in

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Speaker 11: the way we think, behave, and produce material things from

1010
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 11: architecture to art. So that's how you see the culture.

1011
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 11: It's an aspect of feature of our thoughts and creativity.

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01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 11: When you dominate a people, you know, culture is a

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01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 11: very important feature of colonization. So those who have colonized

1014
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 11: us all across Africa and the world have essentially colonized

1015
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 11: people who did not see their lands as privates, but

1016
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 11: rather shared their lands amongst themselves and even the conqueror

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Speaker 11: in the first place. But the cultural differences are very

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01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 11: relevant to our situation today. So if we look at

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01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 11: what happens here in the US and in Africa, the

1020
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 11: colonizers those with are dominating through their values and beliefs,

1021
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 11: and they are preventing the people they have conquered from

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01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 11: practicing bears. They stop that through murder. They take over

1023
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 11: the institutions that the original people had that they've conquered,

1024
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 11: they eradicate them, erase them, and then put in their

1025
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 11: own cultural beliefs and values. And people who step out

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01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 11: of line and want to remember who they are and

1027
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 11: have ways of memory writing that if they discover that,

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01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 11: they will kill them, you know. So it's over thousands

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01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 11: of years, so it's not remembered. People don't remember. They've

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01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 11: borne into something that has been planned by the conquerors,

1031
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 11: and they become it's familiar with this way they're born

1032
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 11: into it. I mean, some of the parents' grandparents and

1033
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 11: so on will remember their past and they will hand

1034
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 11: that down and it will almost be like a secret.

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01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:41,439
Speaker 11: This is what we used to do. But one day

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Speaker 11: it will rise again because through education, through knowledge, we

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01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 11: can re remember. We can remember who we were and

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01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 11: what we did and so on. That's why aphacology is

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01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 11: so important because it is not a racist a discipline.

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Speaker 11: There are people from all over the world who study

1041
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 11: and who are Africologists, because what we're trying to do

1042
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 11: is look at the truth of human movement, and we

1043
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 11: know that scientifically, all humans came out of Africa. So

1044
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 11: the ancestors of everybody on this planet are African and black.

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Speaker 9: But these.

1046
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 11: False ideas of race and gender, and all these constructs

1047
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 11: of hierarchy, of notions of superiority and inferiority, and creating

1048
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 11: systems that uphold these false beliefs make us believe that

1049
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 11: these are justified and they're true. So, you know, black

1050
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 11: people can are raised to think that Africa is where

1051
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 11: you come from and it's inferior. There was no history

1052
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 11: there and it was barbarous. The great European philosophers teach

1053
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 11: that in their philosophies, and that is throughout the whole

1054
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 11: of the academic world to believe in the inferiority of Africa.

1055
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 11: So because we're all trained to do that, we're all

1056
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 11: going to school and learning all this papers telling.

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Speaker 7: Us all this.

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Speaker 11: It's a subconscious thing. And so we can be black,

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01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 11: dark skinned, light skinned and really despise Africa and now

1060
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 11: fearful being connected to it, even though the truth is

1061
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 11: that Africa is the place of civilization. The stories that

1062
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 11: have come out of are constructed for us to lose

1063
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Speaker 11: our capacity to understand our true selves. So we're being

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01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 11: constructed in the like, shall I say, of the conquerors

1065
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 11: of the culturally dominant group is training us to see

1066
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Speaker 11: their viewpoint. So because of the race structure in place,

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Speaker 11: we can actually be black and hate blackness, hate other

1068
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Speaker 11: black people. We can be like that.

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Speaker 2: And hold that thought right there, because that's where I

1070
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Speaker 2: was going, and I'm glad you went there. Must have

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01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 2: been reading my mind, doctor Dove, because we do have

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Speaker 2: some people who are black who hate on other black people.

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Speaker 2: How do they how do they get there? Where they

1074
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 2: where they adopting the cultural aspects of the the of

1075
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 2: their their oppressor, and and where they're subjugated? Was it?

1076
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 2: Was it done deliberately? And because these folks, even though

1077
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,479
Speaker 2: they hate other black people, they're black themselves. They hate

1078
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 2: if you're African, or you're from Barbados, so you're from Kenya.

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Speaker 2: They even hate if you if you're from Detroit. And

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Speaker 2: it's an issue we have in our career. How do

1081
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 2: we solve that and how do these folks who in

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01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 2: that space, how do they get there?

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Speaker 11: They got there? Because this is what we're taught every day,

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01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 11: and it can be in subtle ways or obvious ways.

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01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 11: If you go to a university here in Africa and

1086
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 11: other places, you will learn the European or whichever way

1087
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 11: that you will begin with Greeces though beginning of civilization,

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01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 11: and where as an example of the way to that

1089
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 11: we should think and learn about these philosophers. But there's

1090
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 11: no understanding that the Greeks learned from the Africans. That's

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01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 11: completely hidden. And even the later philosophers don't know anything

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01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 11: about Africa. But if you don't know anything about Africa,

1093
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 11: you don't know anything about human beings because a we

1094
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:08,560
Speaker 11: are all from Africa, but the history is inclusive of

1095
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:12,600
Speaker 11: everything to do with Africa. So we're all taught this

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01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 11: in different ways. Even when we can go to nursery

1097
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 11: and so on, we're taught the race paradigm and the

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01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 11: idea that black people are inferior, that the women are inferior,

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01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 11: and so black women come in the lowest point because

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01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 11: they're both women and black, you know, which is not

1101
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 11: to deny that black men have been treated diabolically, but

1102
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 11: it is to say that when you put these things together,

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01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 11: that we can practice also patriarchy, because that is, patriarchy

1104
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 11: and race are the dominant cultural beliefs in this society,

1105
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 11: and we're all being taught that. So this is why

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01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 11: you know, it happens to us many of us are

1107
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 11: victims to it, but we don't have any knowledge of true.

1108
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 11: This is the problem. Knowledge is truth, and education is

1109
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 11: oriented towards the culture that develops it. So when we

1110
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:25,520
Speaker 11: say we're educated here, we're really educated in the system.

1111
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 11: As Cartig Woodson taught us, that is teaching us what

1112
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 11: black people should know about themselves, which is inferiority and

1113
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 11: the superiority in the race paradigm of white people. We're

1114
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 11: all being taught that, but some of us have knowledge

1115
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 11: from the past that's been handed down for generations. So

1116
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 11: as though we have an idea that that is not true,

1117
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 11: we can feel that it's not true through our achievements

1118
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 11: and just what we feel. But the education system is

1119
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 11: teaching us that we are that black people, and the

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01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 11: darkest skin black people in particular because of the race belief.

1121
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 11: So the lightest skinned black person, as we call it here,

1122
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:25,839
Speaker 11: is privileged compared to the darkest skin black person, because

1123
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 11: this is the model of race, the hierarchy of race,

1124
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 11: which is, even though it's not true, we are all

1125
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 11: one race, the human race. Even though it's not true,

1126
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 11: it's still promoted in universities, in schools, in nurseries there

1127
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 11: and when we look at TV and all of those

1128
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 11: things is still there as an undercurrent. So many of

1129
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 11: us fall victim to it. We don't want to be black,

1130
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 11: We hate Africa, and we're treating other black people in

1131
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 11: the way that the race paradigm asked us to do,

1132
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 11: which is to disrespect them, disrespect ourselves, and sometimes we

1133
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 11: don't realizing that in disrespecting.

1134
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 2: Other You know, doctor hold, I thought there because I

1135
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 2: needed to repeat that for some of the family sitting

1136
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,639
Speaker 2: in the back of the classroom, because we've got two

1137
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 2: groups out here, Ados and FDA. They're doing exactly what

1138
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 2: you're saying, and they've got people who are following them

1139
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 2: because they don't they don't do their research about these

1140
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 2: groups because they're created by white folks pushing this on

1141
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 2: us because you repeat that what you just said about

1142
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:41,799
Speaker 2: despising the other Africans because they don't know they're African themselves.

1143
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 2: You know, they're they wrap around in their flags instead

1144
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 2: of the red, green, and black. They wrap around their

1145
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:50,719
Speaker 2: stars and stripes or the Jamaican flag or Panamanian flag,

1146
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:54,719
Speaker 2: whatever colonizer that took over their country. But they don't

1147
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 2: see themselves as Africans, can you? I just want you

1148
01:12:58,520 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 2: to repeat that for the folks in the back of

1149
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 2: the passon because that's where they hang out.

1150
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 12: Well.

1151
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 11: Yes, what I'm saying is that the race paradigm rules.

1152
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 11: The race paradigm is it's a structure where white people

1153
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:19,719
Speaker 11: are the superior and it goes down to the black person.

1154
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 11: So it's white, yellow, red, brown, and black, and we

1155
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 11: all have a position in it, in the race paradigm,

1156
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 11: and it comes out of a polygenesis belief, which is

1157
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 11: a force belief that there are these races that arose

1158
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 11: up in different parts of the world, and we're genetically different,

1159
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 11: so we can't change. When you're genetically something you else,

1160
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 11: you can't really change that. So we use culture and

1161
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 11: reality and the movement of humans to show that we

1162
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:56,839
Speaker 11: are only one race of people. We're ninety nine point

1163
01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:03,839
Speaker 11: nine the same we are as are African. About seventy

1164
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 11: thousand years ago, people began to migrate out of Africa

1165
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 11: and lived in different parts of the world. These are

1166
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 11: often called First Nations people, and we're taught that that

1167
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 11: race is real, but it is a falsehood created by

1168
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 11: white supremacists who want to maintain control over people by

1169
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 11: defining them in these ways and dividing people. The construct

1170
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 11: We can see it's alive, but it isn't based on truth.

1171
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 11: So to construct this took wars, torture, took the lives

1172
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 11: of hundreds of millions of people for us to actually

1173
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 11: believe that this is real, seems real, but is based

1174
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 11: on a falsehood. There's only one human race, that is it,

1175
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 11: and we have been divided in all these ways to

1176
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 11: look at the world from this angle. But it's been

1177
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:20,600
Speaker 11: proven scientifically to be false. And it's been proven scientifically

1178
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 11: that we are all African, even though you know we

1179
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 11: can hate Africa and so on. We've been misguided, miseducated,

1180
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 11: and we do not have the knowledge and the history

1181
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 11: to be able to confront the constructive race. So most

1182
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 11: of us believe in it. And in that way, you know,

1183
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 11: we take on the values and beliefs of racist So

1184
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 11: we have to look at each other from a racist perspective,

1185
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 11: you know. So the racist perspective is that the darkest

1186
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:04,640
Speaker 11: piece people are the most inferior and the whitest the

1187
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 11: most superior. Now, if you want to change position in

1188
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 11: the race paradigm, which is a falsehood, you have to

1189
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 11: do what those who created it do, which is to murder, kill,

1190
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,719
Speaker 11: or hate all that type of thing to change the position,

1191
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 11: because it isn't the real It only exists because of

1192
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 11: all the more murder and slaughter that created it in

1193
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 11: the first place. This is why education is so important,

1194
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 11: because education from an afrocentric perspective is learning the truth

1195
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 11: of humanity and the true history of humanity, and that's

1196
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 11: called knowledge. Knowledge is called truth by our ancient African

1197
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 11: Barbs who built the first civilizations in the world. We

1198
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 11: have evidence of this, and you know, so even if

1199
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,719
Speaker 11: we go to chem and we say, you know, this

1200
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 11: is evidence of the sciences of all the things that

1201
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 11: we build that later conquerors talk and manipulated into this

1202
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 11: world and claimed that they that they were the forebears

1203
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 11: of all these sciences and beliefs and varlues. If we

1204
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 11: look at Kemmot, Kemmitt knew about the movements of the planet.

1205
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 2: Right now, Hold up thought right there, Doctor Dove, we

1206
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 2: got to step aside and get caught up in the

1207
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 2: ladies news trafficking weather. Thank you for sharing this information

1208
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 2: with us. Family. We're talking about the field Negro and

1209
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 2: the house Negro. That's basically what doctor Dove is talking

1210
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 2: about we're in her classroom now at Temple University. She's

1211
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 2: an afrocology professor. I hope you're given a lot of

1212
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 2: information from her this morning, but as I mentioned, we

1213
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 2: got to step aside and check the news that're coming

1214
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 2: out from for our different stations twenty three minutes away

1215
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 2: from the top there. I've got a question for doctor Dove.

1216
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 2: Reach out to us at eight hundred and four or

1217
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 2: five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your

1218
01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 2: phone calls next and Grand Rising family. Thanksious' starting to

1219
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 2: Wednesday with us the first day of April April first,

1220
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 2: of course, and also Wednesday that means it's a humpday.

1221
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 2: We're halfway through the work week with our guest from

1222
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 2: Temple University, afric College and professor doctor No Dove. Before

1223
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 2: we go back to doctor Devlin, shall remind you come

1224
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 2: up later this morning we're gonna speak with as social

1225
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 2: activists and Minister Doctor b Reverend Doctor William Barbara is

1226
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:22,639
Speaker 2: going to be here also. He's going to speak before

1227
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court this morning as well, so we'll hear

1228
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:26,600
Speaker 2: more about that when he joins us. But before we

1229
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 2: get to Dr Barbara, the faith brothers are going to

1230
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 2: address the issue of racism in religion. And tomorrow we're

1231
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 2: going to be drawn by DC activists. Brother Obi also

1232
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:37,679
Speaker 2: at the Paul Pumphrey from the Friends of the Congo

1233
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 2: and some of the Congolese brothers and sister's going to

1234
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 2: be with us as well. And the Master Teacher ashra

1235
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 2: Quazi will be here to explain all the reasons for

1236
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 2: the season this Easter season. He'll be here. So if

1237
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 2: you're in Baltimore, make sure that radio is locked in

1238
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 2: real tight on ten ten WLB, or if you're on

1239
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 2: the DMV, are we're on fourteen fifty WL. All right,

1240
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 2: doctor Dove, I'll let you finish your thought. Then cliffand

1241
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 2: Connecticut has a question for your comment.

1242
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 11: And I can't remember my thoughts. I mean, I'm trying

1243
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 11: to say that racism, that race, racism certainly real and

1244
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 11: the visions made amongst people based on phenotypical differences. These

1245
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 11: phenotypical differences are all different reflections of the earliest African people.

1246
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 11: So we're Sheno typically African, but we look different through

1247
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 11: climatic changes and diets, living in mountains, living by rivers,

1248
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 11: and living in urban you know, we've changed how we

1249
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 11: look over thousands of years, but we are one human race,

1250
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 11: but we're divided by our culture orientation. There are essentially

1251
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 11: two culture orientations manifests in hundreds of them. But the difference,

1252
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 11: the difference between them is the placement of the mother

1253
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 11: when she is respected and loved and revered as she

1254
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 11: was in the ancient times, because we wouldn't be here

1255
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:20,599
Speaker 11: without her. She is the center of social organizations and

1256
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 11: everything that comes out of the family, the nation, etc.

1257
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 11: Is related to balance and truth to maintain that reciprocity

1258
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 11: between women and men who are who were the African

1259
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,640
Speaker 11: women and men and the ancient times that were the

1260
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 11: ones who produced life and culture. The other version is

1261
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 11: the placement of the woman as being less than the man,

1262
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:57,560
Speaker 11: as being inferior and lower down, you know, in the hierarchy,

1263
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 11: and there is as and it's not true. Women are

1264
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,600
Speaker 11: equal to men. That's the end of the story. We

1265
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 11: can make ourselves equal, think we're inferior and superior because

1266
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 11: it is a belief system. But out of that arose

1267
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:19,679
Speaker 11: all these hierarchies, ideas of inferiority and superiority, and one

1268
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 11: of them is the construction of race. That black people

1269
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 11: are inferior to white people. This is a construction and

1270
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 11: absolutely not true and not provable, but we believe in this.

1271
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:40,839
Speaker 11: So I'm connecting race and patriarchy together as partners in crime,

1272
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:46,799
Speaker 11: partners in falsehood that have been destructed, destructive in human life.

1273
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 11: So there are human beings, whether they're black or white,

1274
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 11: or yellow or red or brown, who believe not only

1275
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:59,679
Speaker 11: in the inferiority of black people, particularly dark skinned people,

1276
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 11: but of women too, and in particular dark skinned women.

1277
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 11: So it's it's it's false, but we're made to believe it.

1278
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 11: We can believe it through the religions that you are

1279
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 11: going to be speaking about later. But culture, religion is

1280
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 11: a reflection of the Well, let.

1281
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 2: Me jump in here and ask your personal question, doctor Doff,

1282
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 2: because you would be consider what we call light skin,

1283
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 2: right whatever, So when you figure this out, did how

1284
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 2: did how did how did you process it? Because you,

1285
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 2: of course you are being light and she's an attractive

1286
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 2: system family, but she is like so you be on

1287
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 2: the upper end of the spectrum as opposed to the

1288
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 2: lower end of the spectrum. How did that? How did

1289
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 2: that hit you? Did it make sense to you? When

1290
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 2: you when you discover this.

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Speaker 11: When I discovered this, I was at school and in

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Speaker 11: the UK, and you know, I was always treated with

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Speaker 11: stain and you know, went through the normal things that

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Speaker 11: any black person goes through in school, because these were

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Speaker 11: European schools and I was a black person inside there.

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Speaker 11: But I remember a beautiful sister who had who entered

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Speaker 11: the classroom and I just felt so relieved to see her,

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Speaker 11: and she and I gravitated to each other regardless, and

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Speaker 11: I was right, I'm privileged as a right person. And

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Speaker 11: when she entered the school, the type of disgusting behavior

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Speaker 11: that went to her made me know that I'm a

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Speaker 11: privileged person. Even though it was disgusting behavior to me,

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01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 11: it was much more so to her. She was a

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01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 11: beautiful person entering a school that was racist, but it

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Speaker 11: wasn't able to show its racism in full blast until

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Speaker 11: she entered. So I recognized that I was privileged, even

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01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 11: though it's a horrible thing. I don't want to be privileged,

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Speaker 11: but I am. That is the reality. And this put

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Speaker 11: me on a trajectory of looking more deeply at it.

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Speaker 11: You know, my parents, I have a very dark skinned

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01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:30,839
Speaker 11: African father and a mother, a European mother, light skinned

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Speaker 11: Jewish of Jewish heritage. She is completely was completely unaware

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Speaker 11: of So I wasn't raised in any sort of church

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01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 11: thing or anything like that. But because of the treatment

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01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 11: my mother was spat upon in the streets because and

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01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 11: threaten many many times because my father was a dark

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Speaker 11: skinned African and he was in fight. Even though he

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Speaker 11: was a professional person, he managed to live through growing us,

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01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 11: growing up in the UK, in Britain as it was

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01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 11: at the time. But I was considered to be the

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01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 11: devil spawn. So I know that there's a certain thing

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Speaker 11: in racism that when these two racism, they're not racist

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01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:19,719
Speaker 11: at all, there's no such thing. There's only one human race.

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01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:23,480
Speaker 11: But when they come together, then they're like in children

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01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 11: or like in children, are the devil spawn, whichever way

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01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 11: you took it, take it, whether it's from the European

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01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 11: angle or the black ankle.

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Speaker 2: Right, am I going to hold you there because we're

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01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 2: racing the clock and cliffs. He wants to join the conversation,

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Speaker 2: Doctor Dove. He's in Connecticut. He's online too, Grand Rising

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Speaker 2: Cliffy on with doctor R.

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Speaker 9: Dove rising for the Carl and to the doctor. I

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01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:51,880
Speaker 9: believe you said that for us there's a black people

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01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 9: in order to rise to another level, that we must

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01:25:55,520 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 9: duplicate the negative and forceful actions of our pressor or

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01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 9: those worse imperiods. That that's not accurate.

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Speaker 4: Doctor.

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Speaker 11: No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that we have

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01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:11,720
Speaker 11: our own African way of existing in the world, and

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01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 11: we have to come back to those ethical principles ourselves

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Speaker 11: through education, through freeing our minds from the construct which

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01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 11: which requires us to do what racists do. I'm saying, no,

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01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:34,600
Speaker 11: we have different ways of being. That these two cultural

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01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 11: orientations guide our minds, and we're thought the colonized imposition

1345
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:47,759
Speaker 11: we have on our minds is to reflect the values

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01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 11: and beliefs of the of the conquerors through culture.

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Speaker 9: At the interrupt, but I just want to add this.

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01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:58,640
Speaker 9: I believe that you and you finally mentioned it and

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01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 9: you brought up the issue of religion, and let me

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01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 9: make this quick point that our oppressor and the things

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01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 9: that they do is based on their belief that their

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01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:11,640
Speaker 9: God looks like them, that they're white. The white Christian nationalists,

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01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 9: white Christian nationalists in this country believe that God has

1354
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 9: gave them this land and that any other people should

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01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 9: not deserve to have this land and that other individuals

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Speaker 9: should not exist.

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Speaker 4: All I'm simply.

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Speaker 9: Saying is that what you concluded to is that for

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01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 9: we as a Black people, for us to elevate without

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Speaker 9: doing anything negative, we must refer and get our own god.

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Speaker 9: So you mentioned Kimmick, and you mentioned our African gods.

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01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 9: We have to this the other and I must ask

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01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 9: him to see if you agree. We must get out

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01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 9: of this oppressor and its culture for example.

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01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:50,719
Speaker 2: Right and respond because they're racing the clock yet.

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Speaker 4: Well ahead, and that has nothing to do with Black culture.

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Speaker 9: But look at the black people will celebrate Eastern We

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01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 9: got to get back to our own culture and find

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01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 9: out who we are, which that makes sense, of course,

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Speaker 9: it makes sense.

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Speaker 11: I thoroughly believe you. You know, we're ancient. We go back.

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Speaker 11: Africa produced the first ethical and moral standards, and you know,

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01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 11: spiritual systems, these later constructs that reflect the culture of

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01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:24,759
Speaker 11: the people that have created them, saying it's all God's work,

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01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 11: this hierarchy and so on, it's all God. Deemed that

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01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 11: that wasn't They borrowed ideas duels from the ancient African

1377
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 11: principles and changed them to fit their own environments. So

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01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 11: you have to have the knowledge of who were we

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01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 11: before this happened, And I thoroughly agree with you. We

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01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 11: have to go back. That's about being a truth seeker

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01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 11: and I'm searching for the truth, and that's what we

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01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 11: have to be, particularly as black people deemed black in

1383
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 11: this construct. That is our mission. We have to do that,

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01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 11: you know, so the more of us that begin to

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01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 11: understand these ancient principles of civilization can understand these more

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01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 11: modern unprincipled principled ideas of barbarism. We are a barbarous

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Speaker 11: people right now. We are inside a country that is

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01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:38,720
Speaker 11: killing people, led as you said, by the white nationalist

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01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:45,679
Speaker 11: religion and it and it condones murder every second, and

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Speaker 11: it's it's file. But it's not based on the truth

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01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:52,599
Speaker 11: of Africa or African thinking. So we have to get

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Speaker 11: that memory back through knowledge. It's so I agree, But

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Speaker 11: we can.

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Speaker 2: With the ladies' traffic and weather' not different cities. I'll

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Speaker 2: let you finish your thought on the other side of

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Speaker 2: Faith Brothers coming up, We're going to continue this discussion

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Speaker 2: with the Faith brothers talking about racism and religion.

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Speaker 1: Family.

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Speaker 2: You two can join our conversations. This morning. Just reach

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Speaker 2: out to us at eight hundred four or five zero

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Speaker 2: seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls

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Speaker 2: after we check the traffic and weather. That's next, and

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Speaker 2: Grand Rising family, thanks for starting your Wednesday with let's

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01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 2: I was starting at the month with us. This is

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01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 2: April first, and our guests from Temple University africology professor

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01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 2: doctor no Dove discussing the effects of cultural domination, and

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01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 2: she was responding to Clifford kinnecticuts call about religion and

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01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 2: how religion is used. So doctor, then I'll let you

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01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 2: finish your thought and then then we're going to move on.

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Speaker 2: But we want you to tell us about the book

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01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 2: that you have out and how can folks read you.

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Speaker 11: Okay, thank you very much, And I'd just like to

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01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:51,759
Speaker 11: not throw religious people under the bus. What we need

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01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 11: to know is what were the roots? You know, because

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01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:59,879
Speaker 11: there are jewels inside these modern religions. There are jewels

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01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 11: and people can use those to gain higher learning and

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01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 11: to rise above the actual religions themselves. That we have

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01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 11: to look at the source. Where did these moral ideas

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01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 11: come from? And they came from Africa, So we have

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01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:20,799
Speaker 11: to go beyond the few thousand years that much earlier.

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01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:25,680
Speaker 11: So that's just to let people know just because you

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01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 11: have a religion, you know, but to look at the

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01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 11: outcome and to seek truth. That's the book that really

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01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 11: speaks to that in many ways is by doctor Molesticatiasanti

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01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:49,599
Speaker 11: and myself, and it's called Being Human Being and it

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01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:59,600
Speaker 11: looks at a history that explains the cultural orientation, the

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01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:03,320
Speaker 11: things that have happened in moral things that have happened

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01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 11: to African people in the US in particular. So it's

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01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:12,040
Speaker 11: sort of a very worthwhile book. And my own book

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01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:18,560
Speaker 11: latest book is called Teaching Teachers the Afrocentric Model of Education,

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01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 11: and it's culturally oriented and explains these types of differences

1432
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 11: in our thinking and give the examples of the effects

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01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:34,880
Speaker 11: of that. So I think that's everything. I'm just very

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01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 11: honored to be here. Great questions. I feel like I've

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01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:43,240
Speaker 11: left so many things not tied up, but.

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01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:47,479
Speaker 2: We'll tie them up. We'll tie them up the next time,

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01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 2: doctor Duff, because always have you on, we'll always get

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01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:53,080
Speaker 2: a great response from folks. They feel like they're in

1439
01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:56,840
Speaker 2: your classroom, a temple, getting this education for free. So

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01:32:56,920 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 2: we appreciate that you're sharing that with us if folks reach,

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01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 2: did you have an email addressed if they want more information?

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01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 11: I have an email address at Temple at the moment,

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01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 11: which is Na dot dove. So it's Nah dot d

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01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 11: o v E at Temple dot E d U. And

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01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:25,800
Speaker 11: I'll get back to you as soon as I can,

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01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 11: because I look at my emails every day.

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Speaker 2: All right, Thank you, Doctor does and thank you, and

1448
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 2: we'll cut here this succession because as she said, we

1449
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 2: still didn't close up, but a lot of things are

1450
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:42,280
Speaker 2: left open on the effects of cultural domination. We only

1451
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:44,040
Speaker 2: hit on one that was religious, but I thank you

1452
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:45,679
Speaker 2: for sharing your thoughts with us this morning.

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01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 11: Thank you, Thank you again.

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01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 2: All right, family, that's doctr RDL. She teaches Africology at

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01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 2: Temple University in Philly, and she's discussing the effects of

1456
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Speaker 2: cultural domination. Let's go up now to the Faith Brothers,

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01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:02,559
Speaker 2: Doctor Evans, past the current Manning and join us Grand

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01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:04,599
Speaker 2: Rising Faith Brothers. Welcome back to the program.

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01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:06,719
Speaker 4: Thank you, Carl.

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01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 13: Good morn good to be with you, brothers.

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01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:12,599
Speaker 2: Thank you, Pastor Manning. Doctor Ebans.

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01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 4: I know you.

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01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:15,600
Speaker 2: I saw that you're online. I know you've heard what

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01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:17,719
Speaker 2: doctor Dove said. Do you want to comment on anything

1465
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 2: that she said about religion.

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Speaker 4: I think it's relevant what she said. I think it

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01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 4: encompass and experience of humanity from not only a spiritual standpoint,

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01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:36,519
Speaker 4: but an actual cultural standpoint. People grow up together in

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01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:45,080
Speaker 4: certain regions, they have certain beliefs, they embrace certain genants

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01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 4: that govern their cultural society, and there is a distinction

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Speaker 4: between societies. And I think it was very informative at

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01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 4: least it the question is there something deeper than the

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01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 4: cultural impact that we seem to have now with domination?

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01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 4: But it just did not start or began in this era.

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01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:26,919
Speaker 2: For one, Let me interrupt. You were saying that because

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01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:29,240
Speaker 2: the Cliff called in and he says that religion is

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Speaker 2: part of that domination.

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01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:38,439
Speaker 4: Well, I think that from a Western view, and from

1479
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:47,240
Speaker 4: a standpoint of many people, they feel that not religion itself,

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01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 4: because that encompassed a lot of different things. But I

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01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 4: think he was speaking about Christianity in particular being associated

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01:35:56,160 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 4: with the culture that is e'recentric, and there are some

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01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:07,680
Speaker 4: truths in that as to how it was used initially

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01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:14,799
Speaker 4: foundationally for the disserviency of black people.

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Speaker 2: All right, let me jump in and ask you this question.

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01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:19,680
Speaker 2: Let me let me go to pastor manic pastimaning. Is

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01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:20,639
Speaker 2: racism a sin?

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01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:24,080
Speaker 13: Is racism a sin?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:30,640
Speaker 13: Yes, I believe racism is a sin for several reasons

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01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:34,719
Speaker 13: because it the primary thing that racism does is that

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01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:44,880
Speaker 13: it separates. It is established on a principle that desires

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01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 13: to tear down or disregard human dignity and the sanctity

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01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:53,600
Speaker 13: of life, the fact that we were all created in

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01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 13: the image of God, the mago dee, and racism definitely,

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01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:05,480
Speaker 13: consistently and originally just comes against that, that whole principle.

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01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:12,920
Speaker 13: It's a sin because it's also designed to oppress. And

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01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:18,000
Speaker 13: when God created human humanity, he gave us dominion. He said,

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01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:20,599
Speaker 13: I give you dominion, gave his dominion over everything that

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01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:23,639
Speaker 13: he created. He didn't give us dominion over each other.

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01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:27,840
Speaker 13: He never said dominate each other, oppress each other. So

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01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:33,519
Speaker 13: again we know that that whole concept that has been built,

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01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 13: the racism has been built on, comes against God's original

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01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:43,559
Speaker 13: intent for mankind. The scripture tells us that God did not.

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Speaker 13: Even when it comes to as we're preparing to celebrate

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01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 13: the resurrection of Christ John three point sixteen, we all

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01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:53,439
Speaker 13: know you see that football games, right, you see it

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01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 13: in the end zone and in all of these other places.

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01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 13: For God so loved the world that he gave his

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01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:00,599
Speaker 13: only be gotten son, that who shall I ever believed

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01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:03,120
Speaker 13: in him, would not perish, but have ever lasting life.

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01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 13: And that's a powerful passage and one of the most,

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01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:10,000
Speaker 13: if not the most popular scripture out of the Biblical text.

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Speaker 13: But John three seventeen says brother Carl, for God to

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01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:17,440
Speaker 13: not send his son into the world to condemn the world,

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01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:19,960
Speaker 13: but that the world through him might be saved. So

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01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 13: God's plan for mankind has never been condemnation and destruction.

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01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 13: If that's what God wanted to do, that would be easy, right,

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01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 13: to destroy the world that he created. But no, God's

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01:38:31,320 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 13: plan has always been salvation and redemption. And the whole

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01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 13: concept of racism opposes salvation and redemption for all of humanity.

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01:38:41,439 --> 01:38:45,600
Speaker 13: Right when you talk about nationalists and other groups that

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01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:48,439
Speaker 13: believe that they are the only ones, they are the

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01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:54,600
Speaker 13: only true race and pure race, all of these erroneous

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01:38:55,000 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 13: teachings come. They directly oppose what God meant with God

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01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 13: intended and how God designed humanity.

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Speaker 2: Right ten half that tough the family just joining us

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Speaker 2: the faith brothers here, doctor J. Edmonds, are past the

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Speaker 2: current Manning and doctor Edmunds a scholar that you are.

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Speaker 2: You heard what Pastor Manning said about racism and the

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01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:22,639
Speaker 2: church of the White nationalists? Why why is and basically

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01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:26,040
Speaker 2: tell me where did they find out dividing us? I

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01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:31,560
Speaker 2: think as a doctor, doctor doctor Nodupp discussed about the hierarchy,

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01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 2: the color spectrum. You know, they believe that if the

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01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:39,200
Speaker 2: dark you are, the more, the uglier, the worst you are,

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01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 2: the closer they are to them, and they use that

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01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:45,560
Speaker 2: in their scriptures. The White nationalists. Now, how can where

1538
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:47,920
Speaker 2: did all this come from? Is it biblical or is

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01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:49,040
Speaker 2: this something they made up?

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01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 4: It's not biblical at all. It's basically they are hermin

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01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 4: nutics their interpretation of certain particular scripture. But deeper still,

1542
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:11,280
Speaker 4: it hinges on one's cultural belief as it relates to

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01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:19,479
Speaker 4: a desire to dominate. So that has to do with

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01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:29,240
Speaker 4: that which is within, and it's been embraced so wholeheartedly

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01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:35,160
Speaker 4: that it become a part of the edict of that

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01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:44,759
Speaker 4: cultural gathering, and so it spills over. Domination always spills

1547
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:53,360
Speaker 4: over as it relates to relegating one to being subservient eureycentrically.

1548
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 4: It started out as an economic venture and then from

1549
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:07,320
Speaker 4: that point it served as a unseen force to keep

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01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:14,720
Speaker 4: a people in subjection so that it changes their thoughts

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01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:19,040
Speaker 4: about themselves. In other words, if they said enough, meaning

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01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:23,400
Speaker 4: the oppressor says it enough that that person is inferior

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01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:33,760
Speaker 4: due to color, due to inabilities to absorb a new

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01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:36,960
Speaker 4: concept or language or what have you been, that person

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01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 4: will actually come to believe that, and therefore sets in

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01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:50,680
Speaker 4: motion the dichotomy differences and one buys in on it.

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01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 4: I think that's what the professor was speaking about. And

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01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 4: many of the callers that called in with frustration relative

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01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:07,519
Speaker 4: to racism, that it genders this self evaluation where one

1560
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:11,479
Speaker 4: begin to evaluate themselves and they come to that cross

1561
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:16,000
Speaker 4: road of either believing what has been said about them,

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01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:21,800
Speaker 4: which is ingreened within the psyche, or rejecting all of

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01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 4: that and then applying what truly they are from a

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01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:29,640
Speaker 4: similar standpoint.

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Speaker 2: Gotcha fourteen a half that top there. Folks want already

1566
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:35,680
Speaker 2: want to speak with the Faith brothers. I got a

1567
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:38,479
Speaker 2: tweet from Mark's question is though, he says, my question

1568
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 2: for the Faith Brothers, I'll give this one over to

1569
01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:44,559
Speaker 2: Pastor Manning. It says, is it's twofold, Pastor mine he said,

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01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 2: does the God in which you ascribe to answer all

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01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 2: prayers from individuals who believe in him or her? And

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01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:54,599
Speaker 2: if so, how many people's prayers are required before we

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01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 2: see the results of your God's work? And he says, Oh,

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01:42:58,080 --> 01:42:58,679
Speaker 2: that makes sense.

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Speaker 13: The God that I believe in answer all prayers?

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01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:12,720
Speaker 2: And how are required before we see the results of

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01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 2: God's work?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I know my response to that question would be

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01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 13: my based on my faith in God's faithfulness. God does

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01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:31,400
Speaker 13: answer prayer. When someone asks the question all prayers again,

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01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:34,799
Speaker 13: that that to me is kind of a bated question

1582
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:41,120
Speaker 13: as to the answer. Could suppose that he answers some

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01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 13: and not all. God answers prayer. One of the challenges

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01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:49,960
Speaker 13: was answering that question, probably as directly as the caller

1585
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 13: would want me to. Is that the challenge, the only

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01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 13: challenge of the major challenge I believe we have with

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01:43:56,439 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 13: prayer or prayer or or answer prayer is the whole

1588
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:05,800
Speaker 13: concept of unanswered prayer. God cares for his creation, He

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01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:09,559
Speaker 13: loves us, and He's orchestrated a plan for our as

1590
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:15,200
Speaker 13: I said, our salvation and our redemption. Sometimes God's ways,

1591
01:44:15,320 --> 01:44:18,000
Speaker 13: not sometimes. But the scripture tells us that his thoughts

1592
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:21,080
Speaker 13: are not our thoughts. His ways are not our ways.

1593
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:27,000
Speaker 13: So our expectations of God responding to us the way

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01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:29,600
Speaker 13: that we want to when we pray, we want the

1595
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:33,360
Speaker 13: answer and the outcome to be in our favor. And

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01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:36,639
Speaker 13: as a child of God and as a believer a Christian,

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01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:39,479
Speaker 13: I can tell you, and you know my story very well,

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01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:42,840
Speaker 13: brother Carl and doctor j it hasn't always been that

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01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:47,719
Speaker 13: way for me, a pastor who've been pastoring full time

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01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 13: for thirty five years now this Sunday will be twenty

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01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 13: five years in Pasadena for me, and my prayers haven't

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01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:58,680
Speaker 13: been answered always in the way that I've expected or

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01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:02,360
Speaker 13: in the way that I've presented them to God. But

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01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 13: but that still does not take away in any measure

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01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 13: my faith in God's faithfulness, because after doing the math

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01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:18,440
Speaker 13: is one of the Christian gospel artists said it so eloquency,

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01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:20,759
Speaker 13: all of my good days, I'll weigh my bad days

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01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 13: and I won't complain. So, yeah, God answers prayer. God

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01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 13: responds to our our prayer and our need. But every

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01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:37,599
Speaker 13: prayer answered, I don't know if I would say yes

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01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 13: in that way. I know that God cares about us

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01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:43,759
Speaker 13: and He's moving and he's working in our lives. God

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01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:48,840
Speaker 13: loves and God is orchestrating and putting and and and

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01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:54,160
Speaker 13: desiring salvation for those who don't pray, because it's not

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01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:59,799
Speaker 13: just about praying. God loves everybody, and he wants, according

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01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:03,200
Speaker 13: to the scripture, everybody to be saved and to come

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01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 13: into the knowledge of his Son. And he wants his

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01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:10,280
Speaker 13: glory to be revealed to all mankind and to cover

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01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:13,320
Speaker 13: the earth. As the scripture says, as the waters closed

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01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:15,200
Speaker 13: the sea right and I left.

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Speaker 2: The right there, Pastor Maning, we have seven a few

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01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 2: months and watch the clock asse eighteen after the topay,

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01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:21,840
Speaker 2: I'll let you finish your thought. On the other side, family,

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01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:23,880
Speaker 2: you two want to get in on this conversation with

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01:46:23,960 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 2: the Faith Brothers. You know how to reach us eight

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01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 2: hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six, and we'll

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01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:33,080
Speaker 2: take your phone calls next and Grand Rising family, thanks

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01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:34,840
Speaker 2: for rolling with us on this Wednesday morning with I

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01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:36,640
Speaker 2: guess the Faith Brothers you know how to reach us

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01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:39,760
Speaker 2: at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six,

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01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:42,000
Speaker 2: twenty one minutes after the top. They out before we left.

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01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:45,240
Speaker 2: We're speaking with Pastor Manning was responding to a tweet question. So,

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01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:46,920
Speaker 2: pastor man, will let you finish your thought?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I was just expressing, brother Carl, how God's will

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01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:54,800
Speaker 13: is that all would be all would be saved. That's

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01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 13: according to the First Timothy chapter two, verse verse four.

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01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:03,680
Speaker 13: And also the scripture tells us in two Peter chapter three,

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01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:05,960
Speaker 13: verse nine that the Lord is not slack concerning his

1639
01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:08,960
Speaker 13: promise as some men would count slackness, but is long

1640
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:12,040
Speaker 13: suffering to us, not willing that any ship perish, but

1641
01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:15,559
Speaker 13: all come to repentance. Now that's God's desire for us,

1642
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 13: and I guess I would ask the caller or the

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01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:23,880
Speaker 13: tweeter to consider our desire for him, because the Bible says,

1644
01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:29,040
Speaker 13: if anyone wants that connection, that that and put our

1645
01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:31,559
Speaker 13: trust in God, we must believe first of all that

1646
01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:34,240
Speaker 13: he exists, and then then second of all that he

1647
01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:38,559
Speaker 13: rewards those who earnestly seek him. So it's not just

1648
01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:42,760
Speaker 13: all on God to just like in the What's the

1649
01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:46,280
Speaker 13: Movie with Jim Carrey Bruce Almighty, where he's got all

1650
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:49,479
Speaker 13: of these prayers coming at him and he's just trying

1651
01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:51,920
Speaker 13: to answer all of them and missing some of them

1652
01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:54,760
Speaker 13: and all of that. No, no, no, God desires a

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01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:58,320
Speaker 13: relationship with us. God has created us to be able

1654
01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 13: to respond to him, and as he responds to us, says,

1655
01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:04,719
Speaker 13: draw nigh to God, and he'll draw nigh to you.

1656
01:48:05,439 --> 01:48:07,799
Speaker 13: God wishes it now with pers but He also created

1657
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:11,320
Speaker 13: us where we have to make that decision. So we

1658
01:48:11,439 --> 01:48:14,360
Speaker 13: have to believe. The scripture says that he exists. We

1659
01:48:14,439 --> 01:48:16,760
Speaker 13: have to have faith, we have to trust. There's a

1660
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:19,720
Speaker 13: lot of things connected to right right.

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01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:23,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pastor man Doctor, if you can show up on

1662
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:25,960
Speaker 2: the response, I appreciate it because you've got a bunch

1663
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 2: of folks got questions for you, all right. Twenty three

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01:48:28,240 --> 01:48:30,720
Speaker 2: after top there, Rick and Laurel Maryland has a question

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01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:33,400
Speaker 2: for you guys. She's on line one. Grand Rich and

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01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:36,200
Speaker 2: Rick your question for the faith brothers, Yes, sir.

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01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:39,519
Speaker 14: Yeah, rise in his brand. Jesus will tell you in

1668
01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:44,320
Speaker 14: morning time. Look at Pastor Manning. Uh you call, I

1669
01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:46,600
Speaker 14: asked you in the beginning. I'm not criticized. I'm just

1670
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:48,840
Speaker 14: want to be sure. Call asked you in the beginning,

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01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:52,200
Speaker 14: is racism is sin? And you said, I believe it

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01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:55,200
Speaker 14: is either yes or no. That's all I mean. I'm

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01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:57,400
Speaker 14: not being critical, but you know, if somebody is listening.

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01:48:57,479 --> 01:48:59,800
Speaker 14: It's just joining faith or whatever, and you hear and

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01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:03,800
Speaker 14: you here, I believe it is. Then that's really like

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01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:07,960
Speaker 14: an opinion. But anyway, that's all I got. Oh yeah,

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01:49:08,240 --> 01:49:10,080
Speaker 14: the last time your Brothers is on, I asked a

1678
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:13,639
Speaker 14: question about the Bible, and I think I meant worded wrong.

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01:49:14,240 --> 01:49:19,920
Speaker 14: Do you brothers believe that women should lead the church?

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01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:24,280
Speaker 14: That's my question, do you think women should lead the church.

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01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:28,080
Speaker 13: But I'm glad you gave me a little grace. I

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01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:30,800
Speaker 13: let doctor J answer that second part. But I'm just

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01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:33,160
Speaker 13: glad you gave me a little grace. When I said

1684
01:49:33,200 --> 01:49:37,120
Speaker 13: I believe it is, I was not wavering isolating. So

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01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:40,960
Speaker 13: racism is a sin, definitely a sin. And I'm glad

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01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:44,519
Speaker 13: you also acknowledge that you may have worded your statement

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01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:48,000
Speaker 13: wrong last time as well. So sometimes you know, we

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01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 13: don't always the words don't come out immediately the way

1689
01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:54,080
Speaker 13: that we have them, or we're constructing them in our heads.

1690
01:49:54,160 --> 01:49:56,599
Speaker 13: But I do know that racism is a sin based

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01:49:56,680 --> 01:49:59,760
Speaker 13: on the other evidence that I gave from the scripture

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01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:01,639
Speaker 13: and about God's character.

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Speaker 2: All right, doctor J.

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01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:10,240
Speaker 4: As to the question should women lead the church? Why not?

1695
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:17,240
Speaker 4: With God, it's about that which one has been endowed with.

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01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:24,160
Speaker 4: There's neither male nor female Jew or Greek, or slave

1697
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:32,680
Speaker 4: or free. In that context, when God gives something relative

1698
01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:38,480
Speaker 4: to a divine prompting to anyone, whether male or female,

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01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 4: then they go with that they are prompted of God

1700
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:42,120
Speaker 4: to do so.

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01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:46,759
Speaker 2: All right, twenty five of the top day, Brother Collis

1702
01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:49,120
Speaker 2: is calling from Waldorf in Maryland. He's on nine four

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01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:53,040
Speaker 2: Grand Rising, Brother Colus, you're on with the Faith Brothers.

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01:50:53,200 --> 01:50:56,720
Speaker 15: Grand Rising, my dear brothers, and it's a pleasure to

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01:50:56,760 --> 01:51:04,320
Speaker 15: speak to you and to hear your analysis and your inspirationals.

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01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:09,320
Speaker 15: What I'm going to enquire about is a critique and

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01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:13,960
Speaker 15: not a criticism, and it has to do with the

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01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:19,439
Speaker 15: penetration of who are the Chosen People, which has been

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01:51:19,479 --> 01:51:24,600
Speaker 15: a cloak for genocide for a certain segment of the

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01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:30,120
Speaker 15: Chosen people. Now, last time past the jay I think

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01:51:30,200 --> 01:51:37,120
Speaker 15: you mentioned that the Jews are comprised of the Ascaronases

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01:51:37,680 --> 01:51:43,480
Speaker 15: and the Sophoics, but you did not mention the Flashes,

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Speaker 15: which according to the World Atlas of the Jewish people,

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Speaker 15: the Falashes, those from Ethiopia are called Beta Israel, the

1715
01:51:54,680 --> 01:52:00,719
Speaker 15: original Jews. The closest thing to the original Jews. Also,

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01:52:01,160 --> 01:52:05,640
Speaker 15: I wanted to clarify that the book called a Thirteen

1717
01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:13,280
Speaker 15: Tribe by author Ketslav points out that those people who

1718
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:20,000
Speaker 15: reign over Israel today come from the Black Sea regions

1719
01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:25,880
Speaker 15: and the Caucasus in Europe and do not represent those

1720
01:52:26,160 --> 01:52:32,200
Speaker 15: original Israelites or Jews that found it Israel. So I'm

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01:52:32,240 --> 01:52:38,200
Speaker 15: doing it from his historical perspective because religions have let

1722
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:43,200
Speaker 15: us down a path sometimes where we cover and cloak

1723
01:52:44,360 --> 01:52:52,360
Speaker 15: or a genocidal, maniacal people in Israel today that are

1724
01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:56,919
Speaker 15: perpetrating this on other people, the genocide on other peoples.

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Speaker 15: So that's my comment. I don't know whether you want

1726
01:52:59,680 --> 01:53:03,519
Speaker 15: to responded that a lot, but I wanted to clarify that.

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Speaker 4: All right, thanks for the college very good, very good

1728
01:53:13,479 --> 01:53:21,120
Speaker 4: sense of dissemination of that information. The Lashes as it

1729
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:29,240
Speaker 4: relates to they're being associated with Jews. We have to

1730
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:34,720
Speaker 4: understand that the very word Jew has to do with

1731
01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:42,040
Speaker 4: the practice of one's religious belief as it relates to

1732
01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:50,280
Speaker 4: the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, but more specifically

1733
01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:56,200
Speaker 4: with Jacob because of his twelve Sons, and the message

1734
01:53:56,479 --> 01:54:02,080
Speaker 4: within Ethiopia was a message that came as a result

1735
01:54:03,400 --> 01:54:09,879
Speaker 4: of the knowledge of the true and living God of Jacob,

1736
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:14,679
Speaker 4: whose name was changed to Israel, and it's settled there

1737
01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:19,280
Speaker 4: and it was practiced there. There's a difference between a

1738
01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:23,880
Speaker 4: Jew and an Israelite, and israel Lite is one who

1739
01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:32,160
Speaker 4: actually came out of Jacob's lawings his lineage, so he's

1740
01:54:32,240 --> 01:54:36,760
Speaker 4: in israel light because Jacob's name was changed to Israel,

1741
01:54:37,720 --> 01:54:40,400
Speaker 4: and any that came out of one of those twelve

1742
01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:46,440
Speaker 4: tribes are israel Lite, a Jewish one who embraces those

1743
01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:51,480
Speaker 4: principles of the law that was handed down, and specifically

1744
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:59,000
Speaker 4: in Ethiopia, there was an embracing of that. Now as

1745
01:54:59,000 --> 01:55:03,480
Speaker 4: it relates to the those who came up around the

1746
01:55:03,480 --> 01:55:07,520
Speaker 4: Black Sea in the Caucasius Mountains, and I think I

1747
01:55:07,680 --> 01:55:14,800
Speaker 4: talked about that those are Sepharti who branched out into

1748
01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:23,640
Speaker 4: Spain and Europe, so their counterfeit when it comes down

1749
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:30,480
Speaker 4: to the true Israelites themselves, So not to leave them out,

1750
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:35,920
Speaker 4: but I thought in my discussion that Alscnali and Sapharti

1751
01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:40,800
Speaker 4: would be the main categories by which today we have

1752
01:55:41,040 --> 01:55:49,720
Speaker 4: the Asiatic Jews who are occupying that strip alongside the

1753
01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:57,040
Speaker 4: Mediterranean who proposed to be the original Jews. It's simply

1754
01:55:57,120 --> 01:55:57,640
Speaker 4: not true.

1755
01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:00,800
Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you on asking this question, though,

1756
01:56:01,320 --> 01:56:03,560
Speaker 2: doctor Evans A twenty nine away from the South Ave,

1757
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:06,000
Speaker 2: can we at least agree that the era that they're

1758
01:56:06,040 --> 01:56:09,800
Speaker 2: fighting for, these Raelis and you can correct me I

1759
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:13,000
Speaker 2: from is the difference between Israelis and Jewish people? The

1760
01:56:13,040 --> 01:56:17,120
Speaker 2: era they're finding out that's not the Israel that's represented

1761
01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:19,600
Speaker 2: in the Bible. Is that something we can agree on.

1762
01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:28,760
Speaker 4: There's an encroachment and they're fighting for land that cannot

1763
01:56:28,880 --> 01:56:34,800
Speaker 4: be distinguishable from that which was given originally, that entire

1764
01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:39,880
Speaker 4: strip of land all the way down to Egypt or

1765
01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:44,440
Speaker 4: going into Egypt that was given to Israel. It was

1766
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:49,800
Speaker 4: the land of the Canaanites. Canaan was the grandson of Noah,

1767
01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:54,600
Speaker 4: and that was the land that was given to the

1768
01:56:54,720 --> 01:57:00,800
Speaker 4: Canaanites were to be subservient to his brother. Has no

1769
01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:03,400
Speaker 4: of that said, so.

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Speaker 2: That I'm confused. Is the land that they're fighting for

1771
01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:10,400
Speaker 2: now and expanding was? Is that the land that's that's

1772
01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:14,360
Speaker 2: depicted in the Bible. That's my question. You're saying they're encroaching.

1773
01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:17,920
Speaker 2: I don't get it. Is this landing they're claiming or

1774
01:57:17,960 --> 01:57:20,120
Speaker 2: did they actually take it from the Palestinians.

1775
01:57:21,600 --> 01:57:26,200
Speaker 4: They're actually it's theirs, but they are encroaching on more

1776
01:57:26,280 --> 01:57:32,800
Speaker 4: of it. So that's why they're encroaching, because it cannot

1777
01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:41,360
Speaker 4: be definitively outlined or described from a biblical standpoint, So

1778
01:57:41,600 --> 01:57:47,280
Speaker 4: they continuously encroach upon Palestine and land north of that

1779
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:52,000
Speaker 4: as well. It's about the people now, they're trying to

1780
01:57:52,040 --> 01:57:58,720
Speaker 4: push back the people more so than occupy land for

1781
01:57:58,840 --> 01:58:01,920
Speaker 4: the purpose of occupy. When someone comes in as an

1782
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:06,840
Speaker 4: occupier for the land, it's different than to actually come

1783
01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:11,480
Speaker 4: in and to oppress the people and push them back.

1784
01:58:12,440 --> 01:58:16,480
Speaker 4: And so now they're doing the latter. That's their objective,

1785
01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:19,960
Speaker 4: get the land. They want to get rid of the people,

1786
01:58:21,400 --> 01:58:22,680
Speaker 4: and that's what they're doing.

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Speaker 2: Gotcha eight hundred four, five seventy eight six twenty seven

1788
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Speaker 2: minutes away from the top of the Brother Kwame's checking

1789
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Speaker 2: in from North Carolina. It's on line five, Grand Raaching

1790
01:58:32,840 --> 01:58:36,360
Speaker 2: and Brother Kwame, you're on with the Faith Brothers.

1791
01:58:35,800 --> 01:58:39,880
Speaker 12: Grand Rising Brothers. Early in the show, one of the

1792
01:58:39,920 --> 01:58:42,880
Speaker 12: Faith Brothers said that they know God loves and we

1793
01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:45,640
Speaker 12: all know that God did not write the Bible. So

1794
01:58:45,800 --> 01:58:50,160
Speaker 12: without using having faith and believed, tell me how.

1795
01:58:50,040 --> 01:58:54,440
Speaker 4: You know God loves.

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Speaker 2: Brother. I'm sorry believe well, either of you can answer respond, Okay, yeah.

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Speaker 13: Well I was going to just say I believe I'm

1798
01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:10,080
Speaker 13: the one that made the comment about God's God's love.

1799
01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:13,919
Speaker 13: And when you say that God did not write the Bible,

1800
01:59:15,560 --> 01:59:17,640
Speaker 13: that's the stance that you're taking that I don't. I

1801
01:59:17,680 --> 01:59:21,200
Speaker 13: don't agree with. The Bible tells us that all scripture

1802
01:59:21,360 --> 01:59:26,160
Speaker 13: is God breathed, God inspired, God breathed the words, God

1803
01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:29,640
Speaker 13: spoke the words to the authors of the Bible. Historically,

1804
01:59:30,280 --> 01:59:34,880
Speaker 13: those accounts can be validated in so many ways experientially

1805
01:59:34,920 --> 01:59:37,680
Speaker 13: for me and others that it can be validated. So

1806
01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:40,200
Speaker 13: all of that is predication and.

1807
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Speaker 2: Author that Pastor Manning, you're saying he wrote the entire

1808
01:59:43,440 --> 01:59:45,840
Speaker 2: the sixty six books that we now know, or the

1809
01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:50,600
Speaker 2: entire chapters or books of the Bible, and not including

1810
01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:53,440
Speaker 2: the current Bible of many of us use the Old Testament,

1811
01:59:53,520 --> 01:59:56,360
Speaker 2: New Testament, those that were left out. Everything, All of

1812
01:59:56,400 --> 01:59:57,360
Speaker 2: that was written by God.

1813
01:59:58,120 --> 02:00:02,240
Speaker 13: The question was was directed towards the Bible. So I'm

1814
02:00:02,240 --> 02:00:06,320
Speaker 13: speaking specifically of the canonized sixty six books in this

1815
02:00:06,440 --> 02:00:10,840
Speaker 13: in my response right now, because from that from that

1816
02:00:10,960 --> 02:00:15,120
Speaker 13: canon from those books We're told that all scripture was

1817
02:00:15,200 --> 02:00:20,320
Speaker 13: God breaths, inspired by God and written and is useful

1818
02:00:20,520 --> 02:00:24,520
Speaker 13: for our rebuke, our correction, trainings and righteousness. Has a

1819
02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:26,760
Speaker 13: lot of purposes and a lot of uses for it.

1820
02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:29,520
Speaker 13: But it is it is from God. So that's the

1821
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Speaker 13: part that I would probably separate from the caller, that

1822
02:00:34,000 --> 02:00:36,400
Speaker 13: statement that God did not write the Bible. That's all

1823
02:00:36,440 --> 02:00:40,160
Speaker 13: I was saying. There. There's conversation and we've had we've

1824
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Speaker 13: had shows that we've talked about other books, the Apocryphy

1825
02:00:43,440 --> 02:00:46,960
Speaker 13: and other books, the Ethiopian Bible and all of that.

1826
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Speaker 13: I'm talking about specifically the canonized sixty six books. In

1827
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Speaker 13: my response to the caller.

1828
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Speaker 2: All right, come and breaking. I know Pastor Doctor Edmunds

1829
02:00:57,920 --> 02:00:59,560
Speaker 2: wants a chiming out. There's a comment you got to

1830
02:00:59,560 --> 02:01:01,640
Speaker 2: follow up. Stay with us twenty four away from the

1831
02:01:01,720 --> 02:01:04,160
Speaker 2: tap of our family. Good quick break here and we're

1832
02:01:04,200 --> 02:01:06,000
Speaker 2: back with your questions. You want to reach the faith brothers,

1833
02:01:06,040 --> 02:01:07,920
Speaker 2: you got a question, any question by religion or about

1834
02:01:08,000 --> 02:01:10,320
Speaker 2: racism in religion, you know how to reach us eight

1835
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Speaker 2: hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six when

1836
02:01:13,640 --> 02:01:16,640
Speaker 2: taking phone calls. Next and Grand Rising Family fascis staying

1837
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Speaker 2: with us on this Wednesday morning. It's a hump day.

1838
02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:20,680
Speaker 2: We're halfway through the work week. And also it's the

1839
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Speaker 2: first of the month, April first, Yes it is, and

1840
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Speaker 2: I guess this morning the Faith Brothers pasted Pastor Jay,

1841
02:01:27,600 --> 02:01:31,040
Speaker 2: Pastor Manning, Pastor J. Manne, and doctor Edmonds is with

1842
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Speaker 2: us as well. I got them all mixed up. Pastor

1843
02:01:33,680 --> 02:01:37,440
Speaker 2: Curry Manning, Doctor J. Edmunds. Sorry, fellas, and also come lated.

1844
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Speaker 2: This morning we're gonna speak with another minister. He's also

1845
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Speaker 2: a social activist. I'll be Reverend doctor William Barber. He's

1846
02:01:43,160 --> 02:01:45,560
Speaker 2: going to discuss you know, he's going to make a

1847
02:01:45,880 --> 02:01:49,400
Speaker 2: presentation before the US Supreme Court today. I think he's

1848
02:01:49,440 --> 02:01:50,960
Speaker 2: going to do that. And also it's going to update

1849
02:01:51,000 --> 02:01:53,240
Speaker 2: us on his moral Mondays as well. And tomorrow you're

1850
02:01:53,240 --> 02:01:55,720
Speaker 2: gonna hear from DC activists, Brother O B also Paul

1851
02:01:55,760 --> 02:01:57,600
Speaker 2: Pumphrey and the friends who the Congo. He's got some

1852
02:01:57,680 --> 02:01:59,880
Speaker 2: Congolese folks are going to join us as well. I

1853
02:02:00,040 --> 02:02:02,360
Speaker 2: asked the teacher, Brother astra Quasi, everything you wanted to

1854
02:02:02,400 --> 02:02:05,640
Speaker 2: know about Easter, all the symbols about Easter. Brother, question's

1855
02:02:05,680 --> 02:02:07,200
Speaker 2: gonna break it down for us, So make sure you

1856
02:02:07,240 --> 02:02:09,760
Speaker 2: keep you ready, locked and tight if you're in Baltimore

1857
02:02:09,880 --> 02:02:12,640
Speaker 2: on ten ten WLB or free in the DMV the

1858
02:02:12,760 --> 02:02:19,080
Speaker 2: Washington Metropolitan here around fourteen fifty WL. All right, doctor Evans,

1859
02:02:19,480 --> 02:02:21,240
Speaker 2: I know you want to chime in on that question

1860
02:02:21,280 --> 02:02:24,120
Speaker 2: from brother Kwame in North Carolina about who wrote the Bible,

1861
02:02:24,640 --> 02:02:26,320
Speaker 2: and if you can explain to me, how do you

1862
02:02:26,360 --> 02:02:28,800
Speaker 2: know who wrote the Bible? Does he say in the Bible?

1863
02:02:29,120 --> 02:02:31,080
Speaker 2: Does somebody say that God wrote the Bible. I'll let

1864
02:02:31,080 --> 02:02:32,480
Speaker 2: you expand on that for us.

1865
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Speaker 4: Well, let me first say this definitively, it's a misconception

1866
02:02:39,040 --> 02:02:42,839
Speaker 4: that God wrote the Bible. God did not write the Bible.

1867
02:02:43,600 --> 02:02:50,400
Speaker 4: He inspired those or certain of His human creations to

1868
02:02:50,680 --> 02:02:57,600
Speaker 4: write what they have been endowed with. It's as you

1869
02:02:57,680 --> 02:03:01,520
Speaker 4: write from an experience. If you sperience something, you write

1870
02:03:01,720 --> 02:03:05,800
Speaker 4: from it. You've been inspired by that experience to write

1871
02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:10,800
Speaker 4: the things that are surrounding that experience, and that's inspiration.

1872
02:03:11,880 --> 02:03:16,480
Speaker 4: So God inspired those all. That's why it says all

1873
02:03:16,640 --> 02:03:21,880
Speaker 4: scripture is given by inspiration of God. Now, for clarity,

1874
02:03:23,480 --> 02:03:29,600
Speaker 4: religion and the worship of deities existed before the collective

1875
02:03:29,640 --> 02:03:39,200
Speaker 4: writings of the Bible. Ancient Greek, Roman, Egyptian gods and goddesses.

1876
02:03:40,840 --> 02:03:46,320
Speaker 4: All of these and the proof of worship of these

1877
02:03:47,080 --> 02:03:53,920
Speaker 4: are evidence evidence in tombs and various writings. They've been recovered,

1878
02:03:54,080 --> 02:03:59,240
Speaker 4: and it predates the writings of the Bible. So it's

1879
02:03:59,280 --> 02:04:06,360
Speaker 4: not a it's not a point that is saying to

1880
02:04:06,400 --> 02:04:11,800
Speaker 4: see that God wrote the Bible and that everything else

1881
02:04:12,160 --> 02:04:16,880
Speaker 4: is outside of this, that's not a point to bring up.

1882
02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:24,280
Speaker 4: The point is who is God as it relates to

1883
02:04:24,720 --> 02:04:29,080
Speaker 4: these particular writings and these scriptures. That's the point.

1884
02:04:30,520 --> 02:04:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, Okay, well right there, sixteen away from

1885
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Speaker 2: the topic, I got a question for Pastor Manning. And

1886
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Speaker 2: Pastor Manning, we established that racism is a sin. How

1887
02:04:42,240 --> 02:04:44,800
Speaker 2: does racism lead to deceive it and disappointment? If it

1888
02:04:44,880 --> 02:04:47,400
Speaker 2: is a sin, you say it is, so, how does

1889
02:04:47,400 --> 02:04:48,840
Speaker 2: it lead it to those things?

1890
02:04:52,920 --> 02:04:57,120
Speaker 13: Racism leads to deception and disappointment because it takes us

1891
02:04:57,160 --> 02:05:00,200
Speaker 13: away again, as I said earlier, from God's rich no

1892
02:05:00,280 --> 02:05:06,680
Speaker 13: intent for mankind. God's plan for humanity has always been community.

1893
02:05:07,400 --> 02:05:11,760
Speaker 13: Even in the Creation account, God says it's not good

1894
02:05:11,800 --> 02:05:14,240
Speaker 13: for man to be alone. Let me create a suitable

1895
02:05:14,320 --> 02:05:19,000
Speaker 13: helper for him. So God created woman, out of man,

1896
02:05:19,880 --> 02:05:24,040
Speaker 13: and they became the two became one flesh. Through this marriage.

1897
02:05:24,240 --> 02:05:26,160
Speaker 13: God is the first father of the bride. I tell

1898
02:05:26,240 --> 02:05:29,160
Speaker 13: young couples. He brought the woman to the man, and

1899
02:05:29,200 --> 02:05:31,000
Speaker 13: the man said, this is bone of my bone and

1900
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Speaker 13: flesh of my flesh. For a lot of reasons, pro creation,

1901
02:05:33,960 --> 02:05:38,680
Speaker 13: to feel and replenish the earth, but also for community together.

1902
02:05:39,640 --> 02:05:43,960
Speaker 13: And from that point, whenever you see God moving amongst humanity,

1903
02:05:44,400 --> 02:05:49,800
Speaker 13: there is always God's intent for us to do things together.

1904
02:05:50,800 --> 02:05:54,080
Speaker 13: And that relationship that we have as humanity that we

1905
02:05:54,160 --> 02:05:57,920
Speaker 13: have to really consider right because the Church is called

1906
02:05:57,920 --> 02:06:00,640
Speaker 13: the body of Christ, and we're told later on in

1907
02:06:00,680 --> 02:06:05,040
Speaker 13: the New Testament that every member is significant, that we're connected.

1908
02:06:05,760 --> 02:06:09,120
Speaker 13: I'm teaching right now leading to Resurrection Sunday, a message

1909
02:06:09,120 --> 02:06:13,960
Speaker 13: about what love is, what love does, and Jesus said

1910
02:06:14,040 --> 02:06:17,600
Speaker 13: that the world will know that we're we're His disciples,

1911
02:06:17,600 --> 02:06:20,640
Speaker 13: his followers by the love we have one to another.

1912
02:06:21,120 --> 02:06:23,560
Speaker 13: One of the challenges as a pastor in talking to

1913
02:06:24,440 --> 02:06:27,000
Speaker 13: a church is that's in the world is helping us

1914
02:06:27,040 --> 02:06:30,800
Speaker 13: to not drink the kool aid of cancel culture and

1915
02:06:30,840 --> 02:06:35,160
Speaker 13: others who who separate us from one another. That's what

1916
02:06:35,280 --> 02:06:36,000
Speaker 13: racism does.

1917
02:06:36,040 --> 02:06:36,440
Speaker 14: As well.

1918
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Speaker 13: But God's plan again has always been community. God's plan

1919
02:06:41,040 --> 02:06:46,000
Speaker 13: has always been connectivity, and racism at his core is

1920
02:06:46,040 --> 02:06:51,720
Speaker 13: designed to divide, to disconnect, to disengage, to dis to

1921
02:06:51,720 --> 02:06:55,520
Speaker 13: to do all of the dishes right, and and God's

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Speaker 13: plan has always been for us to come together that power.

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Speaker 13: You know, it's been said that knowledge is power, and

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Speaker 13: there's a lot of truth to that, But I believe

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Speaker 13: scripturely as well that the place of agreement is a

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Speaker 13: place of power. And we know that as a people.

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Speaker 13: One of the greatest tools to keep us apart is

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Speaker 13: to keep us in a constant state of disagreeing with

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Speaker 13: one another. But the Scripture says we can't even walk

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Speaker 13: together if we don't agree. So I believe that one

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Speaker 13: of the mandates from the Christian Church using the scriptures

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Speaker 13: is to help people understand and to see how we

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Speaker 13: are related, how we are connected, and how we are

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Speaker 13: better together.

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Speaker 2: You know, having said that at thirteen a way for

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Speaker 2: the top of the hour, I got to go to

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Speaker 2: doctor Edmunds, doctor j earlier when you heard what doctor

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Speaker 2: Dove was saying about the cultural domination, and they you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: I think the last call of mention that the religion

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Speaker 2: is used to do that. Having said that, why does

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Speaker 2: the sinate? Because we are already established racism the sin,

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Speaker 2: So why does the sin of rationis not want just

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Speaker 2: to know who we are and where we come from.

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Speaker 4: Because it takes away the freedom that one truly has

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Speaker 4: and don't know that they do have. The greatest challenge

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Speaker 4: in life is discovering who you are. The second greatest

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Speaker 4: is to be happy with what you find. If you're

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Speaker 4: not sure about who you are, how can you be

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Speaker 4: happy with a discovery you're not completely convinced that involves yourself.

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Speaker 4: So there is so much that is writing upon one's

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Speaker 4: independent thought of themselves, an assessment of themselves. If someone

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Speaker 4: says that you're inferior, you have a choice to believe

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Speaker 4: that or not to believe that. All of the evidence

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Speaker 4: that supports that you are not inferior goes back into

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Speaker 4: the history of your culture, and so you go back that,

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Speaker 4: you listen to those who are expounding upon the evolution

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Speaker 4: of that culture, and you embrace that. So one cannot

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Speaker 4: be themselves unless they have confidence in who they truly are.

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Speaker 4: But if they are being told that they are subservient,

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Speaker 4: if they're being told that they're less than. If they're

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Speaker 4: being told that the color of their skin automatically then

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Speaker 4: nototes that they are inferior, and they actually believe that,

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Speaker 4: then they imprison themselves. So it takes away freedom that

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Speaker 4: one would normally have. And with freedom you can do

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Speaker 4: so much. You have the freedom to think, freedom to

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Speaker 4: calculate moves, freedom to expand yourself and to discover things

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Speaker 4: on new horizons that you would not have discovered before

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Speaker 4: because you were not allowed to go into those areas.

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Speaker 4: That's why there is a movement to keep one from advancing.

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Speaker 4: Once you advance into territory that you never gone into before,

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Speaker 4: you thought was taboo for you, but at the same

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Speaker 4: time it was okay for another culture to embrace it.

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Speaker 4: Once you advance into that territory and see and experience

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Speaker 4: the fruits of it, it's an awakening and freedom brings

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Speaker 4: that about. That's one thing I like about your guests

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Speaker 4: who's coming in, William Barbara. I just love what he's

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Speaker 4: doing with the Poor People's Campaign and how he's stretching

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Speaker 4: out an expanding territory of freedom in those things which

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Speaker 4: are necessary for one to be independently free of thought.

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Speaker 4: When someone and categorize you, they imprison you. You know,

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Speaker 4: if they imprison your mind, they have imprisoned you. And

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Speaker 4: if someone comes along and say this is not true,

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Speaker 4: and the evidence shows that it's not true, it sets

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Speaker 4: you free as a human being, as a person, as

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Speaker 4: a spirit, as a soul, as a human creation of God.

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Speaker 2: Right dying away from the top of I'm picking up

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Speaker 2: on that what he just said, Pastor Manic, because you know,

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Speaker 2: we talked about the sin of racism. We talked about

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Speaker 2: are there any benefits in the sin off rations? Because

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Speaker 2: racism separates us and divides us. Is there any benefits

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Speaker 2: on either side people who are saying it, the people

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Speaker 2: who are believing it from the getting involved in racism

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Speaker 2: in the church.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I don't know if I would say there's any

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Speaker 13: benefits to the sin of racism. I think one of

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Speaker 13: the things that we can benefit from is that it

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Speaker 13: allows us to what I say, and a message about

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Speaker 13: crisis and conflict. It allows us to confirm character. So

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Speaker 13: because of the sin of racism and what it does

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Speaker 13: and how it manifests itself, we begin to see who's

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Speaker 13: who right, even when it comes to the Christian Church

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Speaker 13: and those who who would call themselves Christians. They're even

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Speaker 13: those outside of the church who recognize, in the words

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Speaker 13: of that great great prophet Keith, sweat something something something,

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Speaker 13: something just ain't right, you know. So when we begin

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Speaker 13: to hear how so called believers are attempting to destroy

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Speaker 13: and to separate people, even with the movement with ice

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Speaker 13: and all of these other headlining news stories that are

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Speaker 13: impacting our country in a terrible way, we begin to

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Speaker 13: see who's who. So I don't know if it's I

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Speaker 13: would call it a benefit, but I do think it

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Speaker 13: is a clarifier and helping us to understand, you know,

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Speaker 13: what's writing what's not right. If the benefit is that,

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Speaker 13: and then the other thing that we've seen over time,

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Speaker 13: especially as African Americans, it has been a rallying call

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Speaker 13: and cry for us to come together and to be

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Speaker 13: be the change instead of waiting for the change. I

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Speaker 13: believe I just got in on the last part of

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Speaker 13: the show right before ours, but I think that's what

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Speaker 13: I was hearing as well from from your from those

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Speaker 13: experts that were on your call, that we've got to

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Speaker 13: be the change. We we can't just talk about it,

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Speaker 13: We've got to be about it. And I think what

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Speaker 13: when When racism is active in any community, it also

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Speaker 13: creates a call from others and a desire to want

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Speaker 13: to do things the right way and to come together

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Speaker 13: and to overcome. The Bible says, don't be don't be

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Speaker 13: overcome with evil, but overcome evil with good. And I

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Speaker 13: believe that's our mandate, that's that's our privilege, and it's

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Speaker 13: our responsibility.

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Speaker 2: Got you to wait for that topic? Charlsea checking in

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Speaker 2: from Baltimore's Online One, Charles grand Rising, you have a

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Speaker 2: question for the Faith Brothers.

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Speaker 16: Oh yeah, I want to ask a question.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, Oh.

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Speaker 16: Okay, yeah. I wanted to know they were talking about

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Speaker 16: God's story and to me, God's story is an idea

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Speaker 16: not an actual physical story. You know, God's story was

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Speaker 16: an idea and it was a dictation that they actually did.

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Speaker 16: You know, you have to start with a story first

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Speaker 16: before you can actually write something down. So God had

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Speaker 16: the idea and then they wrote down his idea after God.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get my chance to respond. Hey, Charles,

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Speaker 2: I think you of that question Faith Brothers.

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Speaker 4: I've never heard it quite put that way, But what

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Speaker 4: are you saying has some validity to it? H God

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Speaker 4: created the heavens and the earth. So he had an idea,

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Speaker 4: it was written on the canvas of his imagination, and

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Speaker 4: he spoke it and it came into existence. And so

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Speaker 4: he prompted people similarly to actually embrace certain things within

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Speaker 4: his sphere by prompting them through his inspiration. So I've

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Speaker 4: never heard it quite put that way, but there it's

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Speaker 4: it's it's viable what he's saying, and it has some.

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Speaker 2: Truths in it all five away from the top of

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Speaker 2: Derek's calling us from Colorado. He's on line four grandarizing, Derek,

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Speaker 2: you wround with the Faith Brothers. Is Derek there online? Four?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm there.

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Speaker 2: Ahead your question real quick because we're racing the clock.

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Speaker 4: Here, Derek.

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Speaker 17: Okay, somebody's talking, somebody's popping.

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Speaker 2: Derek, we have He puts you on hold because we

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Speaker 2: were racing the clock. We got to take a quick

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Speaker 2: break here eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight

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Speaker 2: seventy six to speak to the Faith Brothers. We're four

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Speaker 2: minutes away from the top of the hour. We gotta

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Speaker 2: take a quick break so our station's can identify themselves

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Speaker 2: down the line per the FCC. We'll come back up

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Speaker 2: with Derek hash his question ready for the Faith Brothers.

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Speaker 2: You two can reach us at eight hundred four or

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Speaker 2: five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your

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Speaker 2: phone calls next and Grand Rising family, thanks for rolling

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Speaker 2: with us this morning with our guess the Faith Brothers.

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Speaker 2: Before we left, we were speaking with Derek in Colorado.

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Speaker 2: He has a question for the Faith Brothers on line four. Derek,

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Speaker 2: you have question or comment for the Faith Brothers.

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Speaker 17: Yes, I understand that they were talking about racism, but

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Speaker 17: I'm thinking about when Moses, Moses, I think his brother

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Speaker 17: got in trouble with the open lady and because they

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Speaker 17: said she was a she was Derek or something like that.

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Speaker 17: And God did not like any racism at all. And

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Speaker 17: that's dealing with the racism, did you guys, you're familiar.

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Speaker 4: With that, right? Absolutely? Absolutely. There was a There was

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Speaker 4: contention between Aaron, who was the brother of Moses, concerning

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Speaker 4: the wife that Moses had. She was an African, but

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Speaker 4: that wasn't the point. It was basically a forbidden tribe

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Speaker 4: that should not be intertwined, and that was the problem

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Speaker 4: that Aaron had and also moses sister Miriam, and God

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Speaker 4: rebuked her for that as a matter of fact, gave

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Speaker 4: her temporarily the disease of leprosy for making that pronouncement.

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Speaker 4: God has always been against separation as it relates to

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Speaker 4: one preferring another. There is no respect of persons as

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Speaker 4: it relates to us as being human beings. We have

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Speaker 4: to look at the similarities that we have, and when

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Speaker 4: you take this flesh off, that's who we really are.

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Speaker 4: Those are where the similarities are, even so much that

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Speaker 4: God manifested himself in the flesh for that purpose, to

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Speaker 4: do away with that and to bring a union between

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Speaker 4: his human creations. This is what the message of the

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Speaker 4: Gospel is about. The message of salvation is about. It

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Speaker 4: is about God unifying his human creation and reconciling them

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Speaker 4: back to himself. That's why he manifested himself in the flesh,

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Speaker 4: so that he would let and allow rather his human

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Speaker 4: creation to know that He is empathetic. He understands what

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Speaker 4: they're going through. But yet he superceedes that which is

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Speaker 4: within the natural, and it's about that which is not

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Speaker 4: in the natural. That's why when he was crucified, he died,

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Speaker 4: he was buried. On the third day, he arose from

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Speaker 4: the grave. He conquered death and he said, whoever believes

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Speaker 4: in this shall be saved. Now, I think the word

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Speaker 4: saved has a lot to do with God's trumping. It

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Speaker 4: has to do with one asking the question save from what.

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Speaker 4: All of those who are listening now, I want you

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Speaker 4: to understand this salvation. It has to do with being

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Speaker 4: saved from something, what it was saved from, saved from

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Speaker 4: the wrath of God, because there is a closure that

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Speaker 4: we're in now, We're in the end time, We're in

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Speaker 4: a period of time that there is a culmination, and

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Speaker 4: so no one forces anyone to receive the gift of God,

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Speaker 4: no one forces anyone to receive forgiveness of sins and

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Speaker 4: eternal life by just believing that this is what He did.

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Speaker 4: And when we look at it from a standpoint that

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Speaker 4: this is salvation within itself, then we come to the

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Speaker 4: conclusion once we truly hear the gospel, not the right

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Speaker 4: right wing pumulgation of separatism, not that not religion. Religion

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Speaker 4: is man's effort to reach God. Christianity is God's attempt

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Speaker 4: to reach man through Christ. When we hear the gospel,

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Speaker 4: meaning that when we hear that which truly happened beyond religion,

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Speaker 4: then it's upon us to receive that once we see

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Speaker 4: that there is a promise. That promise is I give

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Speaker 4: you forgiveness of seance. I know you're making mistakes as

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Speaker 4: human creation, and moreover, I give you eternal life.

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Speaker 2: Right now, we're gonna end. And Pastor Manning, we got

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Speaker 2: doctor doctor William Barber on deck. I want to thank

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Speaker 2: you brothers Uh for sharing your thoughts with us this morning.

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Speaker 2: And again, how can folks reach you if they got

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Speaker 2: more questions about racism in the Bible, they can reach me.

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Speaker 4: At the Edmunds Group Global at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: All right, and Pastor.

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Speaker 13: Man We're at Pasadena Church dot com. We're on YouTube Facebook.

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Speaker 13: Pastor Kerwin K E. R W I N at Pasadena

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Speaker 13: Church dot com. And thank you again, Carl and doctor

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Speaker 13: j so good to be.

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Speaker 4: With you today. Thank you Pastor Manning and Carl. And

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Speaker 4: I want to say to doctor William Barbara, I applaud

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Speaker 4: your work you're doing.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted them to know that, he said, he's

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Speaker 2: on the line. Thank you, doctor William, bob a grand Rising,

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Speaker 2: welcome back to the program.

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Speaker 4: I'm honored and thank my fellow colleague who just sent

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Speaker 4: his prayers and a shout out. You know we all

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Speaker 4: are in this work. I'm glad you all talked about

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Speaker 4: salvation because you know, the slave masters used to think

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Speaker 4: that salvation was just saying I love Jesus all Sunday,

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Speaker 4: but then brutalizing people and slavery on Monday. And the

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Speaker 4: old folk the slaves used to say Heaven, Heaven, everybody

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Speaker 4: talking about heaven and going there, because they knew that

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Speaker 4: a salvation that claims a experience of God but then

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Speaker 4: renders you mute on the great issues of injustice. Whatever

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Speaker 4: you call it, it's suspect in terms of being a

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Speaker 4: true spiritual transformation. So thank you for that conversation you

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Speaker 4: just had.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, having said that, though you've heard that, was it

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Speaker 2: Bishop Carlton, He said that everybody's going to heaven. Do

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Speaker 2: you agree with this assessment. I'm sure you heard of

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Speaker 2: that back in the day.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's not exactly what Carlton was saying, everybody going

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Speaker 4: to heaven when he was making that, when I met him,

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Speaker 4: knew him. He's a dear friend of mine. He was

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Speaker 4: struggling with the way in which Western society and did

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Speaker 4: a lot and even the Western of the Church had

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Speaker 4: had made this issue that unless you knew Jesus and

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Speaker 4: confessed a certain way, that uh, you know, you were

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Speaker 4: going to hell. And so what he was saying was

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Speaker 4: he was struggling with So you're saying a child that

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Speaker 4: dies in a country because of poverty and famine is

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Speaker 4: gonna then turn around the God he said he was

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Speaker 4: going to put that child in hell because they didn't

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Speaker 4: come down an hour and say I give Christ my life.

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Speaker 4: He was struggling with the great struggle. What does it

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Speaker 4: mean if salvation is not it's free, and if it

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Speaker 4: comes through God's actions and not ours, which is what

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Speaker 4: we teach and believe, then how is it that we

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Speaker 4: take up the notion of assigning anyone to hell. Actually

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Speaker 4: he wasn't the first one else that Jesus said that

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Speaker 4: let the wheat and the tag row together, and I'll

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Speaker 4: separate what Jesus called us to When you look at

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Speaker 4: jesus first simon and his last simmon, he never called

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Speaker 4: us to go around trying to figure out who's going

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Speaker 4: to an eternal this or that. He said, the spirit

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Speaker 4: of the laws upon me to preach good news to

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Speaker 4: the poor, to cover the sight to blind, healing to

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Speaker 4: the broken heart, so forth, and so on his last Simon,

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Speaker 4: he said he was on the way to the cross,

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Speaker 4: and he said, nations will be judged by how we

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Speaker 4: treat the least of these. It's amazing to me how

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Speaker 4: many people want to run past all of that and

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Speaker 4: get into a conversation about who they can know now

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Speaker 4: and say is going to heaven or hell. And it

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Speaker 4: goes back again to what Frederick Douglas said about slave

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Speaker 4: master religion versus the Christians of christ. There were slave

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Speaker 4: masters who literally believed and said that the slaves were heathen,

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Speaker 4: that black skin was a sign of the permanency of

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02:25:36,920 --> 02:25:41,640
Speaker 4: the demonic, and they were going to hell. The best

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Speaker 4: thing they could do is be good service now. But

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02:25:43,840 --> 02:25:47,760
Speaker 4: they were predestined for hell. And yet the slave master

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Speaker 4: just because he went in on Sunday and said I

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Speaker 4: believe in Jesus, that that meant he was exonerated of

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Speaker 4: all of the evils towards YU managed And that has

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Speaker 4: been a struggle in how we understand and talk about theology.

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Speaker 4: What I love about Jesus when I look at Jesus.

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Speaker 4: Every time somebody said somebody couldn't receive something. You look

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Speaker 4: into scriptures and there was a group of folks and

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Speaker 4: his disciples wanted to run down Jesus said, listen, I

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Speaker 4: have other than a dollar that's sold. Disciples didn't want

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Speaker 4: to accept some children one day, and Jesus said, suffer

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Speaker 4: the little children, let them come. Another group wanted to

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Speaker 4: crushed the stone a woman they said were called in adulty,

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Speaker 4: Jesus wrote in the Saying, And when he stood up,

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Speaker 4: everybody that accused he was gone. On the cross he sold.

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Speaker 4: He told a thief what we would call people that

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Speaker 4: actually was a protester. He was somebody who was abeiling

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Speaker 4: age's wrong. This day you'll be in paradise with me.

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Speaker 4: You know, Grace is so amazing that I've decided to

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Speaker 4: preach it, but never to try to fully understanding, because

2225
02:27:05,800 --> 02:27:08,120
Speaker 4: if I can ever fully understand it, then I can

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Speaker 4: comprehend knowledge that's too wonderful for me. What I do

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Speaker 4: know is that to be quote unquote changed by God

2228
02:27:19,520 --> 02:27:23,760
Speaker 4: and changed by the Spirit of God produces what we

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Speaker 4: call a quarrel with the world, a qual with the

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02:27:27,240 --> 02:27:32,640
Speaker 4: world's injustices, a quaal with the world's meanness. And so

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02:27:32,800 --> 02:27:36,840
Speaker 4: many people that I've seen are so worried about heaven

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02:27:36,959 --> 02:27:40,120
Speaker 4: over yonder, But they're not worried about folks having some

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Speaker 4: food over here and some clothes over here, and some

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Speaker 4: justice over here, which is what we are really supposed

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Speaker 4: to be doing, because none of us know the day

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Speaker 4: to ours, which are saying, so a man shall uppear.

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Speaker 4: But what we should be doing is engaging in the

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Speaker 4: works of grace and the works of love, and the

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Speaker 4: works of faith and the works of justice.

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Speaker 2: All right, family, the voice he's just hearing this Reverend

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Speaker 2: doctor William Barbie, and not only is a minister, it's

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Speaker 2: also a social activist. And doctor Barbara, you're going to

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Speaker 2: speak before the US Supreme Court. Can you tell us

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Speaker 2: what that presentation is going to be about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Carl, I like what you said that, because

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Speaker 4: I want to say also, in other words, how can

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Speaker 4: I be a minister not be a social acturate? What

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Speaker 4: would that be?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 4: That's the very thing Jesus railed again, he said, he said,

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Speaker 4: he said to the pharasees one time, you time, even

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Speaker 4: a tea leaf, go through all of this religious ritual,

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02:28:40,520 --> 02:28:44,119
Speaker 4: but you leave undone the wavier matters of the law.

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Speaker 4: And the first thing he said was justice. So here

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Speaker 4: we are in front of Supreme Court this morning, and

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Speaker 4: we've got two unholy things going on. And I think

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Speaker 4: every clergy person in this cunjobity, if you're whatever your

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Speaker 4: faith tradition, should be speaking out. We have an unhold.

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Speaker 4: The war is unholy, unholy war choice going on. It's

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Speaker 4: costing us a million dollars a minute, a million dollars

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Speaker 4: a minute, and innocent people are killed. Babies, children are

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Speaker 4: being killed, girls in a school, and we don't even

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Speaker 4: know how many innocent people by a president who has

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Speaker 4: a God complex. It's really a war on divinity. He

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Speaker 4: has an Emperor of God complex. He he wants to

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Speaker 4: say he's the one to decide who lives, who dies,

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Speaker 4: and there's a serious war on divinity. He's in a

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Speaker 4: battle with you know, because the ancient Caesars and Empests,

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Speaker 4: they wanted to be called the sons of God. And

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Speaker 4: if you listen to Trump's rhetoric and his fallow us,

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Speaker 4: they believe the world and began to He came where

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Speaker 4: everything that's good came after him, everything that's great came

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Speaker 4: after him. It's a serious war on divinity. So that's

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Speaker 4: the one. Then secondly, we have him today, got his

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Speaker 4: lawyers arguing to the end birthright, our citizenship. If you

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Speaker 4: it was the fourteenth Amendment founded to pass the correct

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Speaker 4: the evils of slavery, and we give all the children

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Speaker 4: of the slave citizenship. And now he wants to argue

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Speaker 4: that it needs to be overturned. They're using Consederate scholars

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Speaker 4: in their argument this week. Your listeners should know this.

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Speaker 4: If they're successful, it said, though Trump again said he

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Speaker 4: wants to even determine who's a citizen. And if they

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Speaker 4: would be successful, they would mean millions of children. We'd

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Speaker 4: go from being citizens to being being eligible for being

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Speaker 4: arrested and departed. It is demented what we see going on.

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Speaker 4: In fact, on the Supreme Court building across the top,

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Speaker 4: it says equal protection under the law. If this, if

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Speaker 4: they pass and rule in Trump Trump's direction, We're gonna

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Speaker 4: have to take that off the Supreme Court. In fact,

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Speaker 4: we don't all even need to call it Supreme Court.

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Speaker 4: We need to call it the Trump Court or Injustice

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Speaker 4: Court or something. But this is where we are in

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Speaker 4: this country right now, my friends. Uh, and that's why

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Speaker 4: I'm here today to speak and to challenge with other clergy. Uh,

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Speaker 4: this this evil, you know, Isaiah ten says, we're one

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Speaker 4: of those who legislate evil and rob the children of

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Speaker 4: their rights, children of their rights of poor and Jesus

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Speaker 4: said it would be better to tie millstone around your

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Speaker 4: neck than to offend one of the little ones that

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02:31:45,080 --> 02:31:49,039
Speaker 4: they are literally going to court to try to take

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Speaker 4: and undermine and remove verse rights citizenship and say children

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Speaker 4: born here don't have that fundamental right. This is this,

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Speaker 4: and it's been the law for one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 4: eight years, equal protection under the law. And it is

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Speaker 4: a sin. It's a sin against children, it's a sin

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Speaker 4: against God to suggest that these children that are born

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Speaker 4: don't have the basic rights of life, liberty, and the

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02:32:21,000 --> 02:32:25,440
Speaker 4: pursuit of happiness. That's why this law was written. It

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Speaker 4: was written to correct the sin of slavery, and it

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Speaker 4: protects babies from being becoming some kind of sub humans.

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Speaker 4: And it's marl as sick. I believe it's demented. It's

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Speaker 4: certainly racist. And the very ones that are promoting it,

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02:32:45,520 --> 02:32:48,800
Speaker 4: they have names like Trump and Miller, and for them

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02:32:48,879 --> 02:32:51,920
Speaker 4: to claim they deserve to be and someone else should

2315
02:32:51,959 --> 02:32:54,520
Speaker 4: be out, they aren't even know those names. Tell you

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02:32:55,040 --> 02:32:58,880
Speaker 4: they want the first people here. They want apaches or

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02:32:58,959 --> 02:33:02,440
Speaker 4: Cherokee or touch r Uh. They won't even to the

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Speaker 4: very rules that they're pushing now a few years ago,

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02:33:07,680 --> 02:33:10,800
Speaker 4: essentially ago, I mean, excuse me, one hundred years ago.

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Speaker 4: Their own parents wouldn't be allowed. And based on the

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Speaker 4: rules they want now, Milaarnia Trump was not even a

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Speaker 4: citizen when she had Trump's son and he benefited from

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Speaker 4: the fourteenth A member. I mean, this is called it is.

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Speaker 4: It is very serious what's going on. And they want

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Speaker 4: to use this to basically pick and choose which children,

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Speaker 4: which babies, uh get equal protection under the law in

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Speaker 4: the United States and the four hold.

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Speaker 2: I thought, right there, doctor Barbara, We're got to step

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Speaker 2: aside for a few months and we come back. Will

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Speaker 2: this impact us? Is this because we've heard all kinds

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02:33:51,120 --> 02:33:52,800
Speaker 2: of things that this is gonna you know, this is

2332
02:33:52,840 --> 02:33:55,480
Speaker 2: going to impact with African Americans. They're going to be

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02:33:55,560 --> 02:33:58,520
Speaker 2: able to deport us. So if this passes, And the

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Speaker 2: other question I got for you, Donald try says he's

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Speaker 2: going to be the Supreme Court this morning with you.

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Speaker 2: Do you think he's he's there to try to intimidate

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Speaker 2: you and all the other folks who are going to testify.

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Speaker 2: I'll let you respond to that. When we get back, family,

2339
02:34:09,640 --> 02:34:11,240
Speaker 2: you two want to get in on this conversation with

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02:34:11,320 --> 02:34:13,840
Speaker 2: I guests, the Reverend doctor William Barber reach out to

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02:34:13,959 --> 02:34:17,400
Speaker 2: us at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six.

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Speaker 2: We'll take your phone calls next and Grand Rising family,

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02:34:20,640 --> 02:34:22,560
Speaker 2: thanks for thanks to staying with us this morning. I

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Speaker 2: guess his doctor, the Reverend doctor William Barbara. Bishop Barbara

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02:34:25,640 --> 02:34:28,560
Speaker 2: is with us. He's a social actress as well as

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Speaker 2: a Christian minister, so let's get that out of the way.

2347
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Speaker 2: And he also conducts what he calls moral mondays. We're

2348
02:34:33,400 --> 02:34:35,160
Speaker 2: going to talk about that as well. He's been doing

2349
02:34:35,200 --> 02:34:37,000
Speaker 2: this for quite some time, but today is a very

2350
02:34:37,040 --> 02:34:39,320
Speaker 2: special day because today he's going to be before the

2351
02:34:39,400 --> 02:34:44,280
Speaker 2: Supreme Court arguing about the birthright citizenship. And Dr Barbras

2352
02:34:44,360 --> 02:34:47,360
Speaker 2: told you before the break that some of our scholars

2353
02:34:47,400 --> 02:34:48,800
Speaker 2: say that would impact us.

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Speaker 4: Well, it will. This is one hundreds of day years

2355
02:34:54,120 --> 02:35:00,800
Speaker 4: of settle law extremists Republicans. I have to say it

2356
02:35:00,879 --> 02:35:03,760
Speaker 4: that way because that's the true since nineteen ninety one,

2357
02:35:04,200 --> 02:35:08,800
Speaker 4: and somebody has introduced legislation every year to overturn the

2358
02:35:08,920 --> 02:35:13,720
Speaker 4: Fourteenth Amendment and the citizen, birth rights, citizenship clause, equal

2359
02:35:13,720 --> 02:35:16,200
Speaker 4: protection clause, and they've never been able to get a

2360
02:35:16,320 --> 02:35:20,280
Speaker 4: vote on it in the floor. Trump has been successful

2361
02:35:20,360 --> 02:35:24,520
Speaker 4: with these Supreme Court justice He's opponted with twisted logic,

2362
02:35:24,840 --> 02:35:29,760
Speaker 4: using persons that were activists and lawyers for the Confederacy

2363
02:35:30,520 --> 02:35:35,600
Speaker 4: to argue that this doesn't apply to all children. It

2364
02:35:35,720 --> 02:35:41,480
Speaker 4: only applied to the babies of slaves. He's doing it

2365
02:35:41,600 --> 02:35:43,760
Speaker 4: to try to twist it up and fool us, to

2366
02:35:43,879 --> 02:35:46,000
Speaker 4: make us think, as black people, oh, that's just those

2367
02:35:46,080 --> 02:35:48,720
Speaker 4: Latinos that we walk away from it, or that's just

2368
02:35:48,879 --> 02:35:51,280
Speaker 4: someone else. But the fact of the matter is scholars

2369
02:35:51,320 --> 02:35:55,240
Speaker 4: are saying that if you remove equal protection under the law,

2370
02:35:55,400 --> 02:35:59,240
Speaker 4: and you say that it was unconstitutional all this time,

2371
02:36:00,120 --> 02:36:01,800
Speaker 4: then what else do you have to go back and

2372
02:36:01,920 --> 02:36:07,039
Speaker 4: undo and what else do you also can no longer

2373
02:36:07,200 --> 02:36:08,960
Speaker 4: arguor for like in for instance, if you were the

2374
02:36:09,160 --> 02:36:13,240
Speaker 4: arguer reparation for saves, but then you say where they

2375
02:36:13,280 --> 02:36:19,960
Speaker 4: are citizens, neither were their descendants because they want because

2376
02:36:19,959 --> 02:36:22,960
Speaker 4: the way they were born, then you nullify that argument.

2377
02:36:24,280 --> 02:36:27,879
Speaker 4: We know that immediately if this were to be passed,

2378
02:36:28,480 --> 02:36:35,040
Speaker 4: people are eligible for deportation, arrest. You know you'd have

2379
02:36:35,200 --> 02:36:37,720
Speaker 4: to before you can get services, certain kinds of things,

2380
02:36:37,760 --> 02:36:40,280
Speaker 4: they merge you in the hospital. You have to produce

2381
02:36:40,480 --> 02:36:43,800
Speaker 4: proof for a baby. And I just want to keep

2382
02:36:43,840 --> 02:36:47,000
Speaker 4: saying that, cause this is talking about baby here. We're

2383
02:36:47,080 --> 02:36:50,959
Speaker 4: talking about babies, children, the most precious in God's sight

2384
02:36:51,040 --> 02:36:54,720
Speaker 4: and should be an eyesight. And he's coming today to intimidate. Sure,

2385
02:36:54,720 --> 02:36:58,560
Speaker 4: he's coming to intimidate. No sitting president has ever come

2386
02:36:58,640 --> 02:37:01,440
Speaker 4: to Supreme courtporen or in any history of this country,

2387
02:37:01,959 --> 02:37:05,959
Speaker 4: not one, never, Because there's supposed to be a separation

2388
02:37:06,080 --> 02:37:09,000
Speaker 4: between the executive and the judicial. And you know, Trump

2389
02:37:09,080 --> 02:37:12,160
Speaker 4: has walked all of that and morphed it in the

2390
02:37:12,280 --> 02:37:16,000
Speaker 4: believing that whether it's the judicial, the legislative branch, of

2391
02:37:16,160 --> 02:37:20,120
Speaker 4: the judicial branch, executive branch, they're all supposed to be

2392
02:37:20,160 --> 02:37:24,800
Speaker 4: controlled by him, him and for his building. Which is

2393
02:37:24,879 --> 02:37:27,680
Speaker 4: why I argue that what we're seeing Trump is a

2394
02:37:27,840 --> 02:37:32,640
Speaker 4: war on divinity. You know, he literally does believe in

2395
02:37:32,800 --> 02:37:37,199
Speaker 4: God and wants to be like the Caesars of old.

2396
02:37:37,640 --> 02:37:41,760
Speaker 4: You know, the Caesar, the one that crucified Jesus said

2397
02:37:41,800 --> 02:37:44,480
Speaker 4: he was the son of God. That Caesar wanted to

2398
02:37:44,520 --> 02:37:48,200
Speaker 4: make sure while he was living, his picture was on money,

2399
02:37:48,680 --> 02:37:50,640
Speaker 4: his name was on money. What is Trump doing there?

2400
02:37:50,959 --> 02:37:52,840
Speaker 4: He's trying to He's gonna make sure his name's on

2401
02:37:52,920 --> 02:37:55,840
Speaker 4: the dollar bill between and fifty. He's trying to get

2402
02:37:55,840 --> 02:37:59,359
Speaker 4: a coin. He's doing things that no other living president

2403
02:37:59,760 --> 02:38:03,600
Speaker 4: has ever done, and certainly all the sitting president. This

2404
02:38:03,879 --> 02:38:07,000
Speaker 4: is very serious stuff. And anybody that laughs at it, oh,

2405
02:38:07,040 --> 02:38:09,880
Speaker 4: they won't do it. You can't put past. You don't

2406
02:38:10,000 --> 02:38:11,920
Speaker 4: know what deals will cut to put use people on

2407
02:38:12,000 --> 02:38:14,480
Speaker 4: the Supreme Court. But I do know is if they

2408
02:38:14,560 --> 02:38:16,960
Speaker 4: do this today, we need to change the name from

2409
02:38:17,280 --> 02:38:21,199
Speaker 4: Supreme Court to Trump Court and Justice Court the Empres's Court.

2410
02:38:21,600 --> 02:38:24,080
Speaker 4: But it doesn't need to be supreme because it's not anymore.

2411
02:38:24,720 --> 02:38:30,200
Speaker 4: It's merely doing the business of a very sick, racist

2412
02:38:30,400 --> 02:38:37,400
Speaker 4: and demented want to be emperor demogogue. And then I said,

2413
02:38:37,520 --> 02:38:41,360
Speaker 4: using these words marriage intentional of this morning. You know,

2414
02:38:41,400 --> 02:38:43,360
Speaker 4: if you want to talk about seeing preachers, this is

2415
02:38:43,360 --> 02:38:46,800
Speaker 4: what y'all be talking about in Holy Week. During the

2416
02:38:46,879 --> 02:38:51,560
Speaker 4: week of Holy Week, car, we're going after babies. Do

2417
02:38:51,720 --> 02:38:55,160
Speaker 4: want people to understand that. And during the week of

2418
02:38:55,360 --> 02:38:59,520
Speaker 4: Holy Week, for a particular life for Christian we're going

2419
02:38:59,680 --> 02:39:06,520
Speaker 4: after baby babies in our laws and try to undo

2420
02:39:07,640 --> 02:39:11,120
Speaker 4: a law that was passed by people to save one

2421
02:39:11,200 --> 02:39:16,120
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty six years or eight years ago, to

2422
02:39:16,400 --> 02:39:22,400
Speaker 4: correct the sin of slaves, and we're arguing whether or

2423
02:39:22,440 --> 02:39:27,240
Speaker 4: not that should be continued. It is a time for

2424
02:39:27,320 --> 02:39:29,520
Speaker 4: the prophetic forces, if there ever was a time.

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02:39:30,480 --> 02:39:32,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me ask you this. The twenty six after

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02:39:32,280 --> 02:39:36,000
Speaker 2: that top, they are the visual your presentation. Hopefully you'll

2427
02:39:36,040 --> 02:39:38,720
Speaker 2: stay on the facts and not talk about Trump, because

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02:39:38,760 --> 02:39:41,400
Speaker 2: I think that's what he hopes, and he's already got

2429
02:39:41,440 --> 02:39:43,680
Speaker 2: some supporters on the Supreme Court. Do you think it's

2430
02:39:43,720 --> 02:39:45,880
Speaker 2: better if you just stick with the facts or appeal

2431
02:39:45,959 --> 02:39:50,000
Speaker 2: to their empathy about their children being deported, or should

2432
02:39:50,040 --> 02:39:53,600
Speaker 2: you say, like if this passes, then your son wouldn't

2433
02:39:53,600 --> 02:39:53,879
Speaker 2: be here.

2434
02:39:54,320 --> 02:39:57,119
Speaker 4: Donald Trump, Well, I'm going to stay with the facts,

2435
02:39:57,320 --> 02:39:59,800
Speaker 4: and the facts part of the facts that have to

2436
02:39:59,840 --> 02:40:02,120
Speaker 4: be he says, And because you have to speak to

2437
02:40:02,600 --> 02:40:04,520
Speaker 4: what's going on here, because the part of that, no,

2438
02:40:04,640 --> 02:40:07,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna clearly say that. But now, remember these are

2439
02:40:07,360 --> 02:40:11,680
Speaker 4: the same people. They're religious folk, they're religious nationalists are

2440
02:40:11,800 --> 02:40:18,080
Speaker 4: arguing that empathy is a sing Now they're arguing that empathy.

2441
02:40:18,600 --> 02:40:21,120
Speaker 4: What is the cause of the fall and decline of

2442
02:40:21,200 --> 02:40:24,680
Speaker 4: Western civilization, and that empathy began in the civil in

2443
02:40:25,240 --> 02:40:28,360
Speaker 4: the sixty with the civil rights movement. I mean, that's

2444
02:40:28,400 --> 02:40:31,560
Speaker 4: how sick this stuff is called. It really call it

2445
02:40:31,640 --> 02:40:33,920
Speaker 4: for a wake up call, you know, particular in the

2446
02:40:34,040 --> 02:40:37,320
Speaker 4: church and Black Church. You literally have folk that are

2447
02:40:37,520 --> 02:40:41,800
Speaker 4: arguing that empathy that in fact they're planning or gathering

2448
02:40:41,920 --> 02:40:45,959
Speaker 4: on May seventeenth anniversarion the bill versus poor decision, calling

2449
02:40:46,000 --> 02:40:50,080
Speaker 4: people to come and recommit themselves to authentic Christianity on

2450
02:40:50,240 --> 02:40:56,440
Speaker 4: the mall, a more masculine Christianity, a Christianity than strong.

2451
02:40:57,080 --> 02:40:59,640
Speaker 4: You know. But if you ever noticed, they never talk

2452
02:40:59,680 --> 02:41:03,400
Speaker 4: about Jesus. They talk about me. They may call a

2453
02:41:03,440 --> 02:41:06,160
Speaker 4: scripture here there, but they don't talk about Jesus. And

2454
02:41:06,280 --> 02:41:09,840
Speaker 4: how could you because if you believe empathy is bald,

2455
02:41:10,560 --> 02:41:14,560
Speaker 4: that cancels out so much of what Jesus stood for.

2456
02:41:15,240 --> 02:41:18,279
Speaker 4: If anybody was empathetic and loving, and it was Jesus

2457
02:41:19,040 --> 02:41:21,840
Speaker 4: so so. But what I want folk to understand when

2458
02:41:21,879 --> 02:41:25,240
Speaker 4: I when I make these statements, they are factual. Even

2459
02:41:25,280 --> 02:41:30,760
Speaker 4: when I say you have somebody wrestling with war on divinity. Ah,

2460
02:41:32,040 --> 02:41:35,400
Speaker 4: you hear when you know whatever Trump wants something, you

2461
02:41:35,440 --> 02:41:38,680
Speaker 4: know what he wants is these things to be passed.

2462
02:41:38,720 --> 02:41:41,520
Speaker 4: But we have to let our people know that's part

2463
02:41:41,560 --> 02:41:45,160
Speaker 4: of the prophetic uh is you have to challenge, just

2464
02:41:45,280 --> 02:41:47,960
Speaker 4: like in the Book of Acts when they challenge the

2465
02:41:48,080 --> 02:41:52,000
Speaker 4: Haros who dressed themselves up in shining clothes on on

2466
02:41:52,280 --> 02:41:56,240
Speaker 4: on Easter Sunday, trying to portray himself with the God,

2467
02:41:56,840 --> 02:42:00,360
Speaker 4: and God had to deal with him or Pharaoh or

2468
02:42:00,520 --> 02:42:04,120
Speaker 4: others down to it. That's part of our critique. And

2469
02:42:04,240 --> 02:42:08,040
Speaker 4: when you hear somebody constantly stand up and say I'm great.

2470
02:42:09,000 --> 02:42:12,400
Speaker 4: Everything I've done is great, Everything I've done is the greatest.

2471
02:42:12,920 --> 02:42:16,000
Speaker 4: Nobody ever did anything like this. Nobody ever did anything

2472
02:42:16,200 --> 02:42:20,160
Speaker 4: like this. You know that's a God complex. It's a

2473
02:42:20,280 --> 02:42:24,640
Speaker 4: form of power insanity. And you can say that and

2474
02:42:25,000 --> 02:42:28,560
Speaker 4: also stay strict on the facts of what's any ready

2475
02:42:28,600 --> 02:42:30,760
Speaker 4: to happen. And that's what I'm going to do this

2476
02:42:30,920 --> 02:42:33,400
Speaker 4: morning at the opening as well as lead folk and prayer,

2477
02:42:34,160 --> 02:42:37,960
Speaker 4: is to talk about this tact. This is settled law.

2478
02:42:39,520 --> 02:42:42,280
Speaker 4: There's been a temper I says since nineteen ninety one

2479
02:42:42,440 --> 02:42:47,880
Speaker 4: to overturn it. If this law was to be changed,

2480
02:42:47,959 --> 02:42:52,119
Speaker 4: this constitutional law was to be changed, it would create

2481
02:42:53,320 --> 02:42:57,040
Speaker 4: a ton of a permanent underclass, which is what the

2482
02:42:57,160 --> 02:42:59,520
Speaker 4: goal of the passion of the fourteenth minute. It was

2483
02:43:00,040 --> 02:43:06,960
Speaker 4: fourteenth Amendment represented the rebirthing of America. The rebirthing of

2484
02:43:07,040 --> 02:43:12,400
Speaker 4: America is the fourteenth Amendment. Because every right, everything that

2485
02:43:12,520 --> 02:43:17,320
Speaker 4: we hold their medicare, medicaid, fairhousing, voting rights, women's rights,

2486
02:43:17,480 --> 02:43:22,320
Speaker 4: LGBTQ rights, any rights, always went to the fourteenth Amendment

2487
02:43:22,720 --> 02:43:25,560
Speaker 4: as a part of the legal basis for why we

2488
02:43:25,879 --> 02:43:29,800
Speaker 4: argued for those rights. Because the Fourteenth Amendment says you

2489
02:43:29,920 --> 02:43:35,240
Speaker 4: are providing equal protection under the law, and every child

2490
02:43:35,400 --> 02:43:44,080
Speaker 4: that is born here automatically receives citizenship. Automatically receiving citizenship.

2491
02:43:44,360 --> 02:43:46,640
Speaker 4: I think the Latin word is just soil. It means

2492
02:43:46,720 --> 02:43:49,840
Speaker 4: born on the foil. You get what's called soil rights

2493
02:43:50,240 --> 02:43:54,080
Speaker 4: because you were born here. And we have to continually

2494
02:43:54,120 --> 02:43:54,720
Speaker 4: lift that up.

2495
02:43:55,920 --> 02:43:58,520
Speaker 2: Thirty minutes after that topic, doctor Bori, if you have

2496
02:43:58,560 --> 02:43:59,840
Speaker 2: to run, let us know because I know you got

2497
02:43:59,920 --> 02:44:02,160
Speaker 2: to testify for the Spring Court this morning. But Mark

2498
02:44:02,240 --> 02:44:05,040
Speaker 2: in Baltimore has a question for ash Online one Grant

2499
02:44:05,120 --> 02:44:06,600
Speaker 2: Rice and Markey, Doctor.

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02:44:09,959 --> 02:44:12,879
Speaker 4: Grand Rising, thank you doctor Barber for everything.

2501
02:44:13,240 --> 02:44:20,200
Speaker 18: Just your question we had under under under the last administration.

2502
02:44:20,920 --> 02:44:24,520
Speaker 18: We had yet again because we had one under obabadministration.

2503
02:44:24,680 --> 02:44:31,080
Speaker 18: We had a comprehensive bipartisan immigration bill that that was

2504
02:44:31,120 --> 02:44:34,040
Speaker 18: supposed to be passed until Trump said I want to

2505
02:44:34,120 --> 02:44:42,360
Speaker 18: run on immigration number ten. Number two, Trump, the the

2506
02:44:42,560 --> 02:44:48,080
Speaker 18: the the, the, the Ice, Ice would have never been

2507
02:44:48,200 --> 02:44:51,880
Speaker 18: doing what they've been doing if they had the path,

2508
02:44:52,000 --> 02:44:54,440
Speaker 18: if they had to pass that bill, and we wouldn't

2509
02:44:54,440 --> 02:44:57,920
Speaker 18: be talking about Birther Fright citizenship. Why nobody talk about that?

2510
02:44:58,280 --> 02:44:58,840
Speaker 1: That's all.

2511
02:45:00,360 --> 02:45:03,560
Speaker 4: Well. I think this brother's analysis is spot on because

2512
02:45:04,200 --> 02:45:08,440
Speaker 4: listen what he said. We had a bipartisan bill. Trump said, No,

2513
02:45:10,320 --> 02:45:13,720
Speaker 4: what's the reason behind not wanting to fix the broken

2514
02:45:13,800 --> 02:45:19,200
Speaker 4: immigration citizens because of two things. Number one, there are

2515
02:45:19,320 --> 02:45:22,000
Speaker 4: forces that want to work people to make money, but

2516
02:45:22,120 --> 02:45:25,400
Speaker 4: they do not want those persons as citizenship life. And

2517
02:45:25,560 --> 02:45:30,599
Speaker 4: number two, America is quickly going through a changing demographic.

2518
02:45:30,840 --> 02:45:34,080
Speaker 4: In the next ten years, there will be no clear

2519
02:45:34,160 --> 02:45:36,920
Speaker 4: white majority. It will be something like thirty three thirty

2520
02:45:36,959 --> 02:45:41,040
Speaker 4: three thirty three. First time in the Western civilization that

2521
02:45:41,440 --> 02:45:44,880
Speaker 4: a country that had certain groups as slaves and certain

2522
02:45:44,959 --> 02:45:49,280
Speaker 4: groups as a merely farm workers, that those persons they

2523
02:45:49,320 --> 02:45:52,040
Speaker 4: once had a slave and farm workers will constitute the

2524
02:45:52,120 --> 02:45:58,120
Speaker 4: majority will constitute the majority. And be a majority, and

2525
02:45:58,280 --> 02:46:03,440
Speaker 4: the wealth is a country in the world, and everything

2526
02:46:03,520 --> 02:46:06,840
Speaker 4: we look at Project twenty twenty five is an attempt

2527
02:46:07,280 --> 02:46:13,120
Speaker 4: to gut the government, gut you know, it's money, gut laws,

2528
02:46:13,640 --> 02:46:17,439
Speaker 4: so that by the time a new more diverse majority

2529
02:46:17,600 --> 02:46:22,720
Speaker 4: comes into play, it will inherit a broken government. It

2530
02:46:22,760 --> 02:46:33,160
Speaker 4: will inherit a defunded government. Secondly, he's exactly right. Ice

2531
02:46:33,200 --> 02:46:36,440
Speaker 4: wouldn't have a leg to stand though it would be

2532
02:46:36,560 --> 02:46:42,199
Speaker 4: no the fires and the whole Ice issue is really

2533
02:46:42,360 --> 02:46:46,439
Speaker 4: about trying to use the Ice law of an illegal

2534
02:46:46,640 --> 02:46:52,200
Speaker 4: enforcement to cool down democracy, to freeze our democracy, which

2535
02:46:52,280 --> 02:46:54,400
Speaker 4: is why really Ice, what we see happening with Ice

2536
02:46:54,520 --> 02:46:57,840
Speaker 4: is morm so crisis of civilization, not just democracy.

2537
02:46:59,360 --> 02:47:00,320
Speaker 2: Is a to.

2538
02:47:01,920 --> 02:47:06,680
Speaker 4: To face people in fear. Remember Trump said that they

2539
02:47:06,720 --> 02:47:08,520
Speaker 4: were going to do so much and cause even the

2540
02:47:08,720 --> 02:47:12,920
Speaker 4: self deport Now, what's interesting about even the language that

2541
02:47:13,040 --> 02:47:16,520
Speaker 4: we use against our Latino or Mexican brothers and sisters,

2542
02:47:17,200 --> 02:47:20,920
Speaker 4: it's the same way that people against verse right citizenship.

2543
02:47:21,400 --> 02:47:25,480
Speaker 4: You have people now whose names like Trump and Miller.

2544
02:47:26,120 --> 02:47:29,200
Speaker 4: Let us know clearly their four parents were not going

2545
02:47:29,280 --> 02:47:33,000
Speaker 4: here because they weren't Apaches, they weren't Cherokee, and they

2546
02:47:33,040 --> 02:47:38,880
Speaker 4: weren't Mexicans because Mexicans own Texas, New Mexico, California. We

2547
02:47:39,080 --> 02:47:43,000
Speaker 4: stole it from them. We stole it from them. And

2548
02:47:43,200 --> 02:47:45,920
Speaker 4: now what folk are wanting to do is call people

2549
02:47:46,040 --> 02:47:52,160
Speaker 4: illegal from whom we stole from. I mean, when you

2550
02:47:52,280 --> 02:47:55,640
Speaker 4: really unpacked the history, it's quite warped, it's quite racist,

2551
02:47:55,760 --> 02:48:00,360
Speaker 4: it's quite ugly, and we're seeing it being played out

2552
02:48:00,480 --> 02:48:03,880
Speaker 4: right here in the Supreme Court. One of the things

2553
02:48:03,920 --> 02:48:05,440
Speaker 4: I'm going to say, and I'm gonna say it like

2554
02:48:05,879 --> 02:48:09,120
Speaker 4: the fourteenth Amendment was written to correct their sixth sin

2555
02:48:09,400 --> 02:48:15,560
Speaker 4: undergirded by inhumane philosophy of manifest destiny. This evil took

2556
02:48:15,680 --> 02:48:18,959
Speaker 4: people who were already here, told them they were heathen,

2557
02:48:19,120 --> 02:48:24,480
Speaker 4: removed them to reservation, took Mexicans who owned Texas, Mexico, Arizona,

2558
02:48:24,520 --> 02:48:27,880
Speaker 4: New Mexico, and California and stole them and called them

2559
02:48:27,959 --> 02:48:31,960
Speaker 4: wet bags, made them workland. Took slaves from Africa and

2560
02:48:32,160 --> 02:48:37,680
Speaker 4: made them and their children perpetual slaves. Birthright citizenship wasn't

2561
02:48:37,680 --> 02:48:44,199
Speaker 4: attempted to end and forever correct this sin against babies

2562
02:48:44,480 --> 02:48:47,560
Speaker 4: and humanity. And when we talk about babies called what

2563
02:48:47,800 --> 02:48:52,520
Speaker 4: we do know is that just last year just last year.

2564
02:48:52,879 --> 02:48:57,400
Speaker 4: I want your audience to hear this number. Just last year,

2565
02:48:58,120 --> 02:49:04,440
Speaker 4: there were tens of thousands of babies that were brought

2566
02:49:04,480 --> 02:49:06,760
Speaker 4: in that were born in this country. That would be

2567
02:49:06,879 --> 02:49:10,720
Speaker 4: negatively I packed it's it's just it was. It actually

2568
02:49:10,879 --> 02:49:15,320
Speaker 4: was three point six million babies the United States were

2569
02:49:15,360 --> 02:49:18,160
Speaker 4: born in the United States just last year. And this

2570
02:49:18,520 --> 02:49:24,440
Speaker 4: law is an attempt to undermine the rights of many, many, many, many, many, many,

2571
02:49:24,520 --> 02:49:26,279
Speaker 4: many thousands of those babies.

2572
02:49:29,000 --> 02:49:30,080
Speaker 2: Hopefully we haven't lost that.

2573
02:49:31,600 --> 02:49:34,840
Speaker 4: No, yeah, I'm good, that's fout.

2574
02:49:35,000 --> 02:49:38,279
Speaker 2: Go ahead, yeah, yeah, go ahead.

2575
02:49:38,360 --> 02:49:40,760
Speaker 4: Hear me when I said about the number, three.

2576
02:49:40,600 --> 02:49:43,840
Speaker 2: Point dropped out because you'll know your travel, but go ahead.

2577
02:49:43,879 --> 02:49:46,920
Speaker 4: And I was saying, is that yeah, that the United

2578
02:49:46,959 --> 02:49:51,240
Speaker 4: States welcome three point six million babies last year. We

2579
02:49:51,360 --> 02:49:56,400
Speaker 4: want six million, tens of thousands of those babies I

2580
02:49:56,440 --> 02:50:00,560
Speaker 4: would benefit from birth right citizenship. I don't want it

2581
02:50:00,600 --> 02:50:05,760
Speaker 4: to be lost on the audience that this morning, Trump

2582
02:50:05,800 --> 02:50:09,520
Speaker 4: has done a lot of attacking He's attacked voting rights,

2583
02:50:10,120 --> 02:50:16,400
Speaker 4: he's attacked the poor, he's attacked Union, he's attacked Iran

2584
02:50:16,879 --> 02:50:23,480
Speaker 4: and other countries. But this morning he's using his influence

2585
02:50:24,040 --> 02:50:27,480
Speaker 4: wanting to go sit in the Supreme Court because he's

2586
02:50:27,600 --> 02:50:33,480
Speaker 4: after babies, his fear of babies. And you know the

2587
02:50:33,560 --> 02:50:37,000
Speaker 4: only two times the Scripture that happened was when Pharaoh

2588
02:50:37,160 --> 02:50:41,120
Speaker 4: was afraid of babies because Moses came from those babies,

2589
02:50:41,959 --> 02:50:48,160
Speaker 4: and and and uh there and Harrod was afraid of

2590
02:50:48,240 --> 02:50:50,279
Speaker 4: babies because Jesus came from those babies.

2591
02:50:50,760 --> 02:50:52,440
Speaker 2: Right and how about that right there? Doctor Borrow, If

2592
02:50:52,480 --> 02:50:53,920
Speaker 2: you have to run, we don't understand, because I know

2593
02:50:54,040 --> 02:50:56,200
Speaker 2: we don't want you to missus lee Supreme Court day.

2594
02:50:56,240 --> 02:50:59,199
Speaker 4: But if you stay with got I got about five minutes.

2595
02:50:59,480 --> 02:51:02,039
Speaker 2: Okay, well we'll let you go, but we'll we'll look

2596
02:51:02,080 --> 02:51:04,240
Speaker 2: for it on the news that we can talk about

2597
02:51:04,280 --> 02:51:07,120
Speaker 2: the moral mondays uh next time, but go ahead and

2598
02:51:07,800 --> 02:51:10,280
Speaker 2: knock them out on the Supreme Court this morning. Thank you.

2599
02:51:11,600 --> 02:51:14,640
Speaker 4: Next Monday, twelve o'clock watching take.

2600
02:51:14,560 --> 02:51:18,199
Speaker 2: Care, gotcha. That's doctor Reverend doctor William Barber family, twenty

2601
02:51:18,240 --> 02:51:19,760
Speaker 2: three away from the top. Then we come back with

2602
02:51:20,360 --> 02:51:22,760
Speaker 2: Kevin gonna kick it with some other issues as well.

2603
02:51:22,959 --> 02:51:25,160
Speaker 2: Eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight seventy

2604
02:51:25,160 --> 02:51:26,680
Speaker 2: six will get you in. We'll take the phone calls

2605
02:51:26,760 --> 02:51:29,240
Speaker 2: next and Grand Rising family, thanks for staying with us.

2606
02:51:29,280 --> 02:51:31,680
Speaker 2: On this Wednesday morning, this first day of April. We're

2607
02:51:31,680 --> 02:51:33,360
Speaker 2: going to talk about that day at the moment with Kevin.

2608
02:51:33,400 --> 02:51:35,320
Speaker 2: But Kevin, come in here for a second. Put your

2609
02:51:35,320 --> 02:51:38,760
Speaker 2: headphones on, you know one of our listeners, Yes, great,

2610
02:51:38,879 --> 02:51:41,640
Speaker 2: I see you. What of our listeners Kevin wanted wanted

2611
02:51:41,920 --> 02:51:44,760
Speaker 2: doctor Barbara to mention that Trump's wife wasn't legal when

2612
02:51:44,800 --> 02:51:47,560
Speaker 2: she had her son. So if he's pushing this law,

2613
02:51:47,680 --> 02:51:49,440
Speaker 2: both of them need to be kicked out of the country.

2614
02:51:49,520 --> 02:51:51,960
Speaker 2: So if you listen, then doctor Barbara, that's one of

2615
02:51:52,040 --> 02:51:54,360
Speaker 2: the tweets of one of our listeners said, if you

2616
02:51:54,360 --> 02:51:56,480
Speaker 2: could bring that up today. You know, it's interesting to

2617
02:51:56,600 --> 02:51:58,520
Speaker 2: be watching if we get a chance to watch it

2618
02:51:58,560 --> 02:52:00,760
Speaker 2: and maybe see span if somebody will cared us all

2619
02:52:00,760 --> 02:52:03,160
Speaker 2: of these other networks, we'll hear what he says, because

2620
02:52:03,160 --> 02:52:05,200
Speaker 2: you know, they like to chop up the information. But

2621
02:52:05,320 --> 02:52:08,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's going to put in a good performance

2622
02:52:08,080 --> 02:52:10,240
Speaker 2: before the Supreme Court, and he's honest way the Supreme Court,

2623
02:52:10,240 --> 02:52:12,360
Speaker 2: that's where we had to let him go. And as

2624
02:52:12,400 --> 02:52:15,480
Speaker 2: he heard that Donald Trump's going to show up, and

2625
02:52:15,879 --> 02:52:17,760
Speaker 2: of course he says that's to intimidate. I don't know

2626
02:52:17,800 --> 02:52:20,240
Speaker 2: who's gonna it just doesn't seem like he can intimidate

2627
02:52:20,320 --> 02:52:22,200
Speaker 2: doctor Barber, right, I.

2628
02:52:22,280 --> 02:52:25,560
Speaker 3: Know what you mean. And the old saying goes, what's

2629
02:52:25,600 --> 02:52:27,560
Speaker 3: good for the goose is good for the other goose.

2630
02:52:27,840 --> 02:52:33,000
Speaker 3: So Trump is trying to isolate that situation, and maybe

2631
02:52:33,080 --> 02:52:37,359
Speaker 3: by having his own appearance there, it just stands against

2632
02:52:37,480 --> 02:52:40,400
Speaker 3: anything someone says about his mindset.

2633
02:52:41,240 --> 02:52:42,600
Speaker 1: But that's just me.

2634
02:52:42,840 --> 02:52:44,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we'll see, you know, we'll see how it

2635
02:52:44,480 --> 02:52:46,600
Speaker 2: happens it because I know doctor Barber is not gonna

2636
02:52:46,600 --> 02:52:49,520
Speaker 2: pull any punches when it comes to this birthright issue

2637
02:52:49,520 --> 02:52:52,000
Speaker 2: because you know, brother Gregory, who calls us from North Carolina,

2638
02:52:52,040 --> 02:52:54,560
Speaker 2: has been hammering home that I'll affect us as well

2639
02:52:54,560 --> 02:52:56,960
Speaker 2: because part of the fourteenth Amendment, you know. So we'll

2640
02:52:56,959 --> 02:52:59,320
Speaker 2: see what happens, you know, if it's just gonna make

2641
02:52:59,320 --> 02:53:02,280
Speaker 2: the argument today and later this year of the Supreme

2642
02:53:02,320 --> 02:53:04,600
Speaker 2: Court is going to issue ruling, and we'll see if

2643
02:53:05,120 --> 02:53:07,760
Speaker 2: doctor Boba convinced any of those on the panel to

2644
02:53:07,840 --> 02:53:10,680
Speaker 2: see what he sees, or Donald Trump's presence in the

2645
02:53:10,760 --> 02:53:13,199
Speaker 2: courtroom will swave him. So it's going to be interesting

2646
02:53:14,400 --> 02:53:16,960
Speaker 2: for the next few months when they render their decision.

2647
02:53:18,080 --> 02:53:20,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we've got to keep our eye clothes on.

2648
02:53:20,800 --> 02:53:24,160
Speaker 3: What's happening with that Carl, no question? And today is

2649
02:53:24,200 --> 02:53:28,040
Speaker 3: a day that will live in infamy. You know, April first,

2650
02:53:28,280 --> 02:53:31,440
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty four. Where were you that day when you

2651
02:53:31,520 --> 02:53:35,920
Speaker 3: heard about the Marvin Gay situation where he was shot

2652
02:53:35,959 --> 02:53:39,280
Speaker 3: and killed by his own father, just one day short of.

2653
02:53:39,400 --> 02:53:41,680
Speaker 1: His birthday, of his forty fifth birthday.

2654
02:53:42,120 --> 02:53:44,680
Speaker 2: Well, let me show you this what happened to us.

2655
02:53:44,959 --> 02:53:46,960
Speaker 2: It was a Saturday, I remember that. That was home.

2656
02:53:48,280 --> 02:53:50,400
Speaker 2: The DJ was on there called me and he says,

2657
02:53:51,520 --> 02:53:54,200
Speaker 2: I got a call from the California Hospital downtown that

2658
02:53:54,560 --> 02:53:56,560
Speaker 2: Marvin Gay is just but they just bought Marvin Gay

2659
02:53:56,720 --> 02:54:01,040
Speaker 2: and he got shot April first. And this guy was

2660
02:54:01,160 --> 02:54:03,640
Speaker 2: new Kevin, you know, a new jock. So I said, hey, man,

2661
02:54:03,680 --> 02:54:05,680
Speaker 2: they're pulling you. They're pulling a prank on you. Don't

2662
02:54:05,680 --> 02:54:07,560
Speaker 2: believe that. They just want to see if you're gonna

2663
02:54:07,560 --> 02:54:09,440
Speaker 2: mentioned that on the radio, that somebody wants to get

2664
02:54:09,480 --> 02:54:13,400
Speaker 2: your job, you know. We laughed, and he says, don't

2665
02:54:13,400 --> 02:54:18,840
Speaker 2: you know it's April first, you know, And he goes, okay, yeah,

2666
02:54:18,959 --> 02:54:22,240
Speaker 2: So that's the first thing I said, you know, it's

2667
02:54:22,720 --> 02:54:25,920
Speaker 2: they're trying to somebody's these other jocks are messing with you, man,

2668
02:54:25,959 --> 02:54:27,960
Speaker 2: then see if you go bite you know that he

2669
02:54:28,080 --> 02:54:29,920
Speaker 2: calls right, No, No, I got two more. Called the

2670
02:54:30,040 --> 02:54:31,800
Speaker 2: nurse and she gave me a name, but she says,

2671
02:54:32,360 --> 02:54:34,440
Speaker 2: gave me a number and just to call it. So

2672
02:54:34,560 --> 02:54:36,480
Speaker 2: I said, okay, let me call, and I suppose she

2673
02:54:36,520 --> 02:54:38,760
Speaker 2: says yeah, So I ran down there. We start doing

2674
02:54:39,000 --> 02:54:43,480
Speaker 2: live reports from because the California Hospital California what official

2675
02:54:43,560 --> 02:54:46,360
Speaker 2: California Hospital Medical Center. It's downtown lay on Grand Avenue.

2676
02:54:46,560 --> 02:54:49,320
Speaker 2: So we start doing reports, live reports from then about

2677
02:54:49,400 --> 02:54:51,560
Speaker 2: about the shooting. You know, it's something that we don't

2678
02:54:51,600 --> 02:54:53,800
Speaker 2: do in radio anymore because most radio stations, thanks to

2679
02:54:53,800 --> 02:54:55,960
Speaker 2: the FTC, don't they don't have news departments. So the

2680
02:54:56,040 --> 02:54:59,640
Speaker 2: story breaks, you know, they think you could turn to

2681
02:54:59,720 --> 02:55:01,960
Speaker 2: the news stations. But where were you, Kevin?

2682
02:55:06,520 --> 02:55:09,280
Speaker 1: Kevin still was, Yes, I'm here, I'm here.

2683
02:55:09,440 --> 02:55:11,360
Speaker 3: You know, every now and then the phone will ring

2684
02:55:11,600 --> 02:55:14,760
Speaker 3: as well, because you've you've struck a chord with people

2685
02:55:14,879 --> 02:55:16,080
Speaker 3: this is and yeah.

2686
02:55:16,080 --> 02:55:17,720
Speaker 2: Well they could call and tell us where they were

2687
02:55:17,720 --> 02:55:18,680
Speaker 2: when they heard where were you?

2688
02:55:19,160 --> 02:55:19,320
Speaker 16: Right?

2689
02:55:19,520 --> 02:55:22,120
Speaker 3: Right exactly? I don't remember exactly where I was. I

2690
02:55:22,240 --> 02:55:27,240
Speaker 3: do remember hearing hearing it and you know, being surprised

2691
02:55:27,400 --> 02:55:32,560
Speaker 3: by the news, and I think that, yeah, of course

2692
02:55:32,680 --> 02:55:37,320
Speaker 3: it was a very shocking day. But all I remember

2693
02:55:37,520 --> 02:55:40,800
Speaker 3: is how, you know, you thought immediately of the loss

2694
02:55:41,240 --> 02:55:44,640
Speaker 3: of such a great voice and of such a great artist,

2695
02:55:44,760 --> 02:55:48,120
Speaker 3: and the fact that he was slain by his very

2696
02:55:48,200 --> 02:55:52,440
Speaker 3: own father. You know, really added like, I don't know,

2697
02:55:52,520 --> 02:55:55,600
Speaker 3: an extra strike to that whole idea. And then Marvin

2698
02:55:55,640 --> 02:55:59,440
Speaker 3: Gaye's mother, Alberta Cooper Gay, spoke out a number of

2699
02:55:59,520 --> 02:56:03,360
Speaker 3: times about out the animosity that Gay Senior hell for

2700
02:56:03,520 --> 02:56:07,040
Speaker 3: his son. And you worked for Stevie. Wonder at the

2701
02:56:07,080 --> 02:56:11,000
Speaker 3: time that did Stevie say anything to you in regard

2702
02:56:11,080 --> 02:56:11,240
Speaker 3: to that?

2703
02:56:12,240 --> 02:56:14,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know, well I didn't call him right away.

2704
02:56:14,720 --> 02:56:16,920
Speaker 2: He was listening to the radio and heard the reports.

2705
02:56:16,959 --> 02:56:20,160
Speaker 2: And you know, because he gave me this mobile phone.

2706
02:56:20,200 --> 02:56:21,960
Speaker 2: This is before we had cell phones. We have a

2707
02:56:22,040 --> 02:56:24,320
Speaker 2: mobile phone, and as three of us had it in

2708
02:56:24,400 --> 02:56:27,200
Speaker 2: the entire company to meet him, another person had a phone.

2709
02:56:27,400 --> 02:56:28,959
Speaker 2: So he called me on the phone. It's in the car.

2710
02:56:29,200 --> 02:56:31,520
Speaker 2: He's got a little antenna on the car and he

2711
02:56:31,600 --> 02:56:33,240
Speaker 2: called me. He says, it's not true. I says, yeah,

2712
02:56:33,760 --> 02:56:36,080
Speaker 2: you want to talk to the nurse. He said, no, no, no,

2713
02:56:36,240 --> 02:56:38,640
Speaker 2: But just you know, stay down there and keep us

2714
02:56:38,680 --> 02:56:41,760
Speaker 2: in form. But after it was the aftermath really that,

2715
02:56:42,200 --> 02:56:44,760
Speaker 2: you know. I got to know the mom and the sisters,

2716
02:56:45,360 --> 02:56:49,520
Speaker 2: uh sister especially, I think one is still living right now.

2717
02:56:49,879 --> 02:56:52,280
Speaker 2: They call it Sweet Sea, you know. And they're from

2718
02:56:52,400 --> 02:56:55,680
Speaker 2: d C So DC folks know the marveln is from Washington,

2719
02:56:55,800 --> 02:56:59,200
Speaker 2: d c R. Yeah. So so they they started a

2720
02:56:59,280 --> 02:57:02,600
Speaker 2: foundation for Marvin after and we'd meet at his house,

2721
02:57:02,959 --> 02:57:05,360
Speaker 2: you know. So it was interesting to have they try

2722
02:57:05,400 --> 02:57:08,279
Speaker 2: to move on after the after the death of Marvin.

2723
02:57:08,360 --> 02:57:11,240
Speaker 2: But it was tough to go because Marvin is irreplaceable.

2724
02:57:12,120 --> 02:57:12,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, man.

2725
02:57:13,000 --> 02:57:17,360
Speaker 3: And as the story would go, and the tumultuous relationship

2726
02:57:17,760 --> 02:57:20,760
Speaker 3: came to a head April first, nineteen eighty four, at

2727
02:57:20,840 --> 02:57:24,320
Speaker 3: his parents home then in Los Angeles, and he stood

2728
02:57:24,400 --> 02:57:28,120
Speaker 3: up for his mother's screaming at Gate Senior, you can't

2729
02:57:28,240 --> 02:57:30,520
Speaker 3: talk to my mother like that. And after a brief

2730
02:57:30,840 --> 02:57:34,440
Speaker 3: but clearly heated physical fight, Gay Senior walked up to

2731
02:57:34,600 --> 02:57:36,879
Speaker 3: his son with a thirty eight out of a revolver

2732
02:57:37,360 --> 02:57:40,360
Speaker 3: and shot him twice. The first shot was fatal, but

2733
02:57:40,560 --> 02:57:43,800
Speaker 3: Gay Seniors decided to shoot him a second time point blank.

2734
02:57:44,760 --> 02:57:48,560
Speaker 2: Man, I tell you, you know, it was your shoot too, Kevin.

2735
02:57:48,879 --> 02:57:51,520
Speaker 2: You know, because when Stevie first bought the station, we

2736
02:57:51,640 --> 02:57:54,120
Speaker 2: had a hoop at the back, and you know, the

2737
02:57:54,440 --> 02:57:56,840
Speaker 2: jail manage at the time set it up. Say says,

2738
02:57:56,959 --> 02:57:59,080
Speaker 2: you guys can work off some sweat over there when

2739
02:57:59,120 --> 02:58:02,400
Speaker 2: you're not working. And Marvin would come down and play

2740
02:58:02,560 --> 02:58:05,959
Speaker 2: a horse with the fellas. You know the account exacts, right,

2741
02:58:06,080 --> 02:58:08,760
Speaker 2: They're playing horse and he says, we got to play

2742
02:58:08,800 --> 02:58:10,760
Speaker 2: for some money and listen, and you know they're playing

2743
02:58:10,800 --> 02:58:12,720
Speaker 2: for like a dollar or fifty cents because they didn't

2744
02:58:12,720 --> 02:58:14,400
Speaker 2: want to make it, you know, all the way back.

2745
02:58:14,720 --> 02:58:18,480
Speaker 2: But he was very competitive because we could hear them that,

2746
02:58:18,560 --> 02:58:21,120
Speaker 2: you know, he was. He was trash talking and the

2747
02:58:21,200 --> 02:58:23,800
Speaker 2: guys are playing. You know, it was interesting he was.

2748
02:58:24,080 --> 02:58:25,880
Speaker 2: He was one of the nicest guys though. Man, I

2749
02:58:26,120 --> 02:58:29,560
Speaker 2: got to tell you he's really missed. No telling what

2750
02:58:29,680 --> 02:58:31,880
Speaker 2: kind of music we would have listened to. Uh if

2751
02:58:31,920 --> 02:58:33,760
Speaker 2: Marvin still was still around.

2752
02:58:33,680 --> 02:58:36,039
Speaker 3: Right, And he wrote for countenance of the artists too,

2753
02:58:36,360 --> 02:58:42,440
Speaker 3: And his reputation around the city of Washington was above reproach.

2754
02:58:42,520 --> 02:58:45,800
Speaker 3: It was huge and everybody that knew him, you know,

2755
02:58:45,920 --> 02:58:51,080
Speaker 3: really really speak lovingly about him. So uh, and then

2756
02:58:51,400 --> 02:58:55,000
Speaker 3: Marvin Gaye's father pleaded no contest to the murder. He

2757
02:58:55,160 --> 02:58:57,320
Speaker 3: claimed he did fire the shot, but thought it was

2758
02:58:57,440 --> 02:59:00,800
Speaker 3: loaded with blanks or BB's. He said, I pulled the

2759
02:59:00,800 --> 02:59:05,400
Speaker 3: trigger and and the first one didn't seem to bother him.

2760
02:59:05,560 --> 02:59:07,720
Speaker 3: He put his hand up to his face like he'd

2761
02:59:07,760 --> 02:59:10,320
Speaker 3: been hit with a BB And then I fired again,

2762
02:59:10,800 --> 02:59:12,600
Speaker 3: and I was backing up toward my room.

2763
02:59:12,800 --> 02:59:15,160
Speaker 1: I was going to go in there and lock the door.

2764
02:59:16,879 --> 02:59:20,040
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, it was a tragic, tragic situation all around.

2765
02:59:20,160 --> 02:59:22,480
Speaker 2: But you know what we got. It's ten minutes away

2766
02:59:22,520 --> 02:59:24,400
Speaker 2: from the top of our family, thought to Babler, I

2767
02:59:24,400 --> 02:59:26,800
Speaker 2: had to leave earlier. As we mentioned, he's gonna testify

2768
02:59:26,879 --> 02:59:30,640
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court or thank his presentation about the birthright initiative.

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02:59:30,680 --> 02:59:33,000
Speaker 2: And as he told you earlier, Donald Trump's gonna be there.

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02:59:33,040 --> 02:59:34,680
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be kind of like a showdown, if

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02:59:34,720 --> 02:59:36,720
Speaker 2: you will. But why don't got so much A few

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02:59:36,760 --> 02:59:39,760
Speaker 2: minutes to Kevin, I want to talk about sister connect Yeah,

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02:59:40,000 --> 02:59:42,280
Speaker 2: you know, give us an update. How's that going? Can

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02:59:42,320 --> 02:59:43,800
Speaker 2: you form the family? What's going on with that?

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02:59:44,000 --> 02:59:44,160
Speaker 4: Well?

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02:59:44,240 --> 02:59:47,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can vote for the twenty twenty six Mishealth

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02:59:47,400 --> 02:59:51,920
Speaker 3: and Fitness for that hers magazine and you've got one day,

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02:59:52,000 --> 02:59:55,360
Speaker 3: twelve hours, eight minutes and fifty two seconds to cast

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02:59:55,440 --> 02:59:57,200
Speaker 3: your vote, and you can vote as many times as

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02:59:57,280 --> 02:59:57,560
Speaker 3: you like.

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02:59:57,760 --> 03:00:03,440
Speaker 1: Go to ms and fit dot com and it'll allow

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03:00:03,560 --> 03:00:08,560
Speaker 1: you to vote for no one else but Ken Yet,

2783
03:00:09,200 --> 03:00:10,960
Speaker 1: not telling you who to vote for. Just vote with

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03:00:11,040 --> 03:00:11,360
Speaker 1: Ken Yet.

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03:00:11,720 --> 03:00:15,680
Speaker 3: And because she lost sixty five pounds and reclaimed her

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03:00:15,760 --> 03:00:18,560
Speaker 3: life and right now she's dedicating her life to helping

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03:00:18,640 --> 03:00:22,800
Speaker 3: others heal, strength, strengthen themselves, and bring joy.

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Speaker 1: Into their lives.

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03:00:24,080 --> 03:00:27,840
Speaker 3: And so her passion has become health and fitness and

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03:00:28,440 --> 03:00:33,920
Speaker 3: her favorite way to train is hybrid training. And once

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Speaker 3: she's awarded the cover, she also gets twenty thousand dollars,

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03:00:38,760 --> 03:00:41,560
Speaker 3: which she says is going to allow her to invest

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03:00:41,600 --> 03:00:46,320
Speaker 3: in education, visibility, and tools that automate systems so she

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03:00:46,440 --> 03:00:50,119
Speaker 3: can spend more time coaching and less time behind the scenes.

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03:00:50,600 --> 03:00:54,800
Speaker 3: And next thing you know, she'll be the next TV

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Speaker 3: Health the Purpose.

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Speaker 2: Like you know she's been reading to TV Yeah, Connect

2798
03:01:01,040 --> 03:01:03,120
Speaker 2: works for our TV side. She works for TV one.

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03:01:03,560 --> 03:01:05,680
Speaker 2: She's a big cheese over there. She's actually the engine

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03:01:05,720 --> 03:01:08,520
Speaker 2: that runs TV one. So we're all behind at Connect

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03:01:08,560 --> 03:01:11,960
Speaker 2: and doing this and she shows her before and after pictures, Kevin,

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Speaker 2: how much way did you?

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Speaker 1: She says she lost She lost sixty five pounds.

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03:01:16,959 --> 03:01:19,800
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, that's a new person. That's the whole person

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03:01:19,879 --> 03:01:22,480
Speaker 2: that disappeared. I'm looking at the picture now. And if

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03:01:22,520 --> 03:01:24,760
Speaker 2: you want to vote, just go to my Facebook sides

2807
03:01:25,560 --> 03:01:28,000
Speaker 2: and it's out on the top right there. You can vote.

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03:01:28,000 --> 03:01:31,240
Speaker 2: You can vote more than once. Connett when she wins,

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03:01:31,280 --> 03:01:32,920
Speaker 2: will be the first black woman on the cover. So

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03:01:33,000 --> 03:01:34,600
Speaker 2: we got to get a push her over the line.

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Speaker 2: Family great sisters, So we're going to help her more.

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Speaker 2: Any more information on that, Kevin.

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03:01:39,520 --> 03:01:42,880
Speaker 3: Well, she's currently number six in the final eight, so

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03:01:43,040 --> 03:01:45,680
Speaker 3: she's moving up in the ranks. So thank you to

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03:01:45,800 --> 03:01:48,640
Speaker 3: those who did vote. And her name is spelled k

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03:01:48,879 --> 03:01:53,160
Speaker 3: I n y E t t E Kenyette Newman and

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03:01:53,320 --> 03:01:58,160
Speaker 3: that way you'll have a little more clarity. And during

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Speaker 3: her interview here, she was just talking about how she

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03:02:01,760 --> 03:02:04,840
Speaker 3: would be the first black woman on the cover of

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Speaker 3: this fitness magazine. And so that too is a great reason,

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03:02:10,320 --> 03:02:13,520
Speaker 3: you know, to take your chance and change history.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, because they don't want us to, you know

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03:02:16,440 --> 03:02:19,800
Speaker 2: that in this era we're living, they're trying to keep

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03:02:19,800 --> 03:02:22,440
Speaker 2: everything lily white. So let's let's just get out there

2825
03:02:22,480 --> 03:02:24,720
Speaker 2: and vote. And again you can vote more than once

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03:02:24,800 --> 03:02:27,520
Speaker 2: if you will, and you can vote every day. When's

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03:02:27,560 --> 03:02:29,440
Speaker 2: the last day, you said, Tomorrow's the last day.

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow's the last day, Yeah, exactly April second. And it

2829
03:02:34,520 --> 03:02:39,160
Speaker 3: also the B plus Foundation provides financial assistance to families,

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03:02:39,480 --> 03:02:42,280
Speaker 3: funds childhood cancer research, and brings awareness to the fight

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03:02:42,320 --> 03:02:45,720
Speaker 3: against childhood cancer. So you can help Ken yet Newman

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03:02:45,840 --> 03:02:49,400
Speaker 3: be the next mishealth and fitness while supporting a great cause.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, you can vote.

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Speaker 3: One vote is free, and then the more votes you do,

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03:02:55,720 --> 03:02:57,879
Speaker 3: you can they have different donation levels.

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Speaker 2: Those are right, or you can vote the next day,

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Speaker 2: one free voted day. I think that's how it is.

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03:03:03,680 --> 03:03:05,800
Speaker 2: But you know, I got to command her. Those of

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03:03:05,879 --> 03:03:08,280
Speaker 2: you who've tried to lose weight or losing weight or

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03:03:08,320 --> 03:03:10,320
Speaker 2: have lost the weight, you know what. You know what

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03:03:10,400 --> 03:03:12,920
Speaker 2: a struggle it is to keep that weight off. And

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Speaker 2: you said she lost the what sixty something? Kevin sixty

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Speaker 2: five pounds and she sixty five pounds.

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Speaker 1: When we were talking to.

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Speaker 3: Her, she attributed to the mindset as well, It's all

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03:03:22,400 --> 03:03:27,600
Speaker 3: about your mindset making that decision, and maybe the decision

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03:03:27,760 --> 03:03:31,120
Speaker 3: might come slow, but you've got to decide, you know,

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03:03:32,720 --> 03:03:38,280
Speaker 3: evening daytime went to bring summerfall, no excuse, and just

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03:03:38,440 --> 03:03:43,120
Speaker 3: continue to fortify yourself with that mindset that lets you

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03:03:43,240 --> 03:03:47,520
Speaker 3: know you can do it, and just being positive and

2851
03:03:47,720 --> 03:03:51,039
Speaker 3: taking those positive actions you need to close the gap

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03:03:51,120 --> 03:03:52,760
Speaker 3: between where you are and where you want to be.

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Speaker 2: Also, it's healthy for you too. Family if those who

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03:03:56,800 --> 03:03:58,640
Speaker 2: have thought about it, you know, just change your tie.

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Speaker 2: You've heard of some of the the naturopathic doctors talk

2856
03:04:02,120 --> 03:04:03,880
Speaker 2: about what we eat, We are what we eat, and

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Speaker 2: I think that's what the can can yet does it

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03:04:06,240 --> 03:04:09,000
Speaker 2: just changed her diat and has now a positive outlook

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Speaker 2: on life, not only physically but mentally too. It works

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03:04:11,800 --> 03:04:13,680
Speaker 2: on you. Once you start leading away, you feel better

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03:04:13,720 --> 03:04:17,000
Speaker 2: about yourself. And that's what she's done, I mean, and

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you just go go on my side and

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03:04:18,840 --> 03:04:21,200
Speaker 2: you'll see the difference because opposed to the pictures there,

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Speaker 2: what she was when she had all that weight and

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03:04:24,440 --> 03:04:27,400
Speaker 2: what she looks like now, totally two different, two different people,

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Speaker 2: two different persons. I should say, so you know, please

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Speaker 2: do that.

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Speaker 3: And she says she mixes up her workout so that

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Speaker 3: variety keeps the workout fun. It supports longevity, So that's

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Speaker 3: another side effect of losing weight.

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Speaker 1: You live longer.

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Speaker 3: And it helps her stay consistent, energized, and confident because

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Speaker 3: you know, she's got that new way of walking and

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03:04:50,560 --> 03:04:54,640
Speaker 3: a new person in the mirror. See so, and her

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Speaker 3: mother survived breast cancer three times and she said that

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Speaker 3: show her how precious health really is and how quickly

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Speaker 3: life can shift. So and that's what started her quest

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Speaker 3: to go ahead and improve her life by losing that weight.

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03:05:12,360 --> 03:05:15,320
Speaker 3: And never mind the fact that you know the reward

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03:05:15,400 --> 03:05:18,359
Speaker 3: will be twenty thousand dollars, but you too can donate

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03:05:19,320 --> 03:05:22,160
Speaker 3: because that's what the voting is about. This is actually

2882
03:05:22,160 --> 03:05:29,640
Speaker 3: about raising money for awareness, of helping provide financial assistance

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03:05:29,720 --> 03:05:34,400
Speaker 3: to families, fund childhood cancer research and brings awareness to

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03:05:34,480 --> 03:05:37,720
Speaker 3: the fight against childhood cancer. So it's more than just

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03:05:37,920 --> 03:05:42,040
Speaker 3: voting for esthetics or because of her ego or something.

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03:05:42,120 --> 03:05:46,920
Speaker 3: You're actually helping a new cause, helping with the research

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Speaker 3: for children's cancer.

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Speaker 1: We want to stop that.

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03:05:50,080 --> 03:05:50,320
Speaker 12: We do.

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03:05:51,000 --> 03:05:54,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, have family, as I mentioned, just go to Facebook

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03:05:54,560 --> 03:05:56,760
Speaker 2: pages and you'll see where you can vote. Let me

2892
03:05:56,840 --> 03:05:59,120
Speaker 2: tell you friends to do that as well. We need

2893
03:05:59,240 --> 03:06:02,040
Speaker 2: some winners in here. Connects a sweet person. She's over

2894
03:06:02,120 --> 03:06:04,080
Speaker 2: there at TV one. All the stuff you see that

2895
03:06:04,120 --> 03:06:07,320
Speaker 2: goes on TV one, that's that's her. That's her wheel

2896
03:06:07,800 --> 03:06:10,360
Speaker 2: if you will, that's what she does. She keeps that

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03:06:10,520 --> 03:06:13,760
Speaker 2: in her wheelhouse. She makes that that station run. So, Kevin,

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Speaker 2: thank you again before you left. Anything more on Connect?

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03:06:16,320 --> 03:06:17,680
Speaker 2: Do you want to add before we get out of here?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just wanted to say. That's why I said

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03:06:20,120 --> 03:06:23,959
Speaker 3: she might one day have her own the Biggest Loser.

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Speaker 1: Show right there on TV one. You know, keep your

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03:06:26,640 --> 03:06:29,119
Speaker 1: keep your eyes all eyes point that way.

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03:06:29,720 --> 03:06:32,600
Speaker 2: Right because just green lighted Jesus go and say, yeah,

2905
03:06:32,600 --> 03:06:36,360
Speaker 2: who's doing the show? All right? Connect, We're behind you

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03:06:36,440 --> 03:06:36,879
Speaker 2: all the way.

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Speaker 6: That's it.

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Speaker 2: Family for the day, go ahead, two minutes away for

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03:06:40,720 --> 03:06:45,440
Speaker 2: the top classes. Dismissed. Stay strong, stay positive, family, please

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03:06:45,440 --> 03:06:47,560
Speaker 2: stay healthy. We'll see you tomorrow morning, six o'clock right

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Speaker 2: here in Baltimore on ten ten w OLB, and also

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Speaker 2: in the DMV on fourteen fifty wol