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Speaker 1: I share with you now some of my commentary from

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Speaker 1: last night. If you subscribe on YouTube you saw the

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Speaker 1: video or follow on Twitter X you saw it as well.

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you,

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Speaker 1: having had a day to take in the assassination of

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk, where people are engaging in responses, where my

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Speaker 1: What is the central thesis that I wanted to get

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Speaker 1: across to you? So I shared this last night. Now

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Speaker 1: I share this with you that what we saw was

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Speaker 1: the efforts and the desire to silence, and that is

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Speaker 1: of course the goal of terrorism. This was political terrorism. Listen. So,

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Speaker 1: having had now a chance to process the assassination of

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk, first assassination seems to fit what is we

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Speaker 1: saw there in Utah or in Utah at Utah Valley University. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk wasn't a politician, but certainly political and certainly

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Speaker 1: one can argue even though we don't have a shooter

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Speaker 1: in custody yet, absolutely we've got ourselves somebody who was

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Speaker 1: killed because of their political belief, because of their political affiliation,

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Speaker 1: because their political connections because of what they said, and

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Speaker 1: I think that the term assassination fits. And a lot

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Speaker 1: of people, a lot of radio hosts, a lot of

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Speaker 1: TV people who had connection to him, have all had

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Speaker 1: their commentaries and they've ranged from angry and rage filled

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Speaker 1: to sad and introspective. I wouldn't actually expect anything else.

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Speaker 1: And certainly I think for a lot of people they

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Speaker 1: saw for the first time exactly the kind of reach

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk had. I didn't know, Oh, Charlie. I met

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Speaker 1: him once at a sea pack event years ago. I

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. That's my total amounts of connection. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people will tell you about all the connections they had.

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Speaker 1: I don't question those. I do ask what our plan is,

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Speaker 1: because one thing that is clear is that the rubicon

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Speaker 1: has been crossed. If indeed we're shooting at people for

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Speaker 1: their political beliefs, we're not talking about candidates, We're not

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Speaker 1: talking about politicians. If we go through history, we will

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Speaker 1: see example after example after example of politicians being attacked,

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Speaker 1: being killed for political beliefs by radicals and others. We've

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Speaker 1: seen this in the United States. We've seen this in

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Speaker 1: other countries. The assassination of Charlie Kirk is different. This

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Speaker 1: is crossing the rubicon. Some people on the left want

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Speaker 1: to say, well, how come you're not talking about this

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Speaker 1: murder or that murder. We're talking about a lot of murders.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about a lot of horror that's going on.

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Speaker 1: We talked about Arena Zarutzka in Charlotte, and we were

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Speaker 1: told that we were just inventing that story, making it

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Speaker 1: more than it was. This woman who was stabbed to

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Speaker 1: is about a broken society that we're witnessing and we're

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Speaker 1: seeing and some people want immediately say, well, it's because

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Speaker 1: you won't get rid of guns. And if you got

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Speaker 1: rid of guns, you wouldn't have these problems. Millions and

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Speaker 1: millions and millions of law abiding gun owners. The gun

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Speaker 1: is not the issue. It is the people firing the

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Speaker 1: think that that's somehow avoiding the bigger story where you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have more of these problems, not if we engage

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Speaker 1: culturally about what it is that we're seeing that is

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Speaker 1: a hard subject. I don't claim to have every answer.

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Speaker 1: What I bring, hopefully is the reminder that a day

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Speaker 1: just like every radio host I know is on the

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Speaker 1: everybody who does commentary was speaking today, They're gonna speak tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: And that is the only answer. Our answers have to

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Speaker 1: come at a ballot box. They cannot come via the

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Speaker 1: barrel of the gun. But that doesn't mean we're supposed

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Speaker 1: as if somehow martyrdom is valuable. Let's be clear, it's not.

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk was better for the conversation alive than as

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Speaker 1: a martyr. And while people may want to make him one,

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Speaker 1: and he may very well end up being one, and

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Speaker 1: there's a legacy that clearly can grow from here, and

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Speaker 1: most probably will, we're not better off because he's gone.

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Speaker 1: There's no win in this, no, no, What is best

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Speaker 1: and we keep speaking. Now, in order to keep speaking,

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Speaker 1: the idea that somehow the people on the political right

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Speaker 1: have to be destroyed. You know, it's the Charles Croudhammer line,

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Speaker 1: Rest his soul. The right thinks the left is wrong,

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Speaker 1: We still don't have the full story there, and we should,

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Speaker 1: but we are living in a moment that this cannot

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Speaker 1: everybody on the left. Absolutely not. Does this mean that

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Speaker 1: who are absolutely excusing this behavior, Yes, it does, all

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Speaker 1: of them know too many? Yes, certainly. If you were

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Speaker 1: the killing of people on the political right. Going down

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Speaker 1: that Matthew Dowd line of reasoning that he said on

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Speaker 1: you know, you say hateful things, you should expect hateful

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Speaker 1: things to happen, which is a different way of saying, well,

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Speaker 1: to the credit of MSNBC, they fired Matthew, Dad and good.

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Speaker 1: The only thing we can do is tomorrow, wake up,

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Speaker 1: Is there going to be more violence? Why would I

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Speaker 1: And that's because for us we're more in the public eye.

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Speaker 1: there's actually any difference at this moment between what you're

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Speaker 1: writing about, what you're sharing, and what I'm sharing. Maybe

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Speaker 1: and there are other people who absolutely have a bigger

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Speaker 1: to democracy that they have internalized it and they believe

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Speaker 1: And because we might disagree with others, sadly and sickeningly,

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Speaker 1: what it is. Terrorism. This is about trying to terrorize

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Speaker 1: understand this. I don't think we're any different. I think

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Speaker 1: don't give in to terrorists, not now and not ever.

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Speaker 1: All the thoughts and prayers in the world for Charlie

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Speaker 1: Kirk's family and friends who are dealing with this and

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Speaker 1: will be for the rest of their lives, for all

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Speaker 1: of us, keep talking. I'll be listening. Agree or disagree.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz