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Speaker 1: They touched on the Jared Lews touched on at the top.

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Speaker 2: Of the hour.

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Speaker 1: There is now a declared winner in the starter battle

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Speaker 1: for the Indianapolis Colts, and boy, howdy, Jerry, I.

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Speaker 2: If I'd have been a betting man on this, I'd

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Speaker 1: They are going with Daniel Jones to start to start

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Speaker 1: the season. Daniel Jones with a career record of uh.

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Speaker 2: It's this. What is his career record here?

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Speaker 1: He's something something in one, like it's forty five seventy

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Speaker 1: and one or something like that. It's I think he'said

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Speaker 1: twenty five to forty five in one, Is that right?

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Speaker 1: I mean it's very it's oh yeah, there it is

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Speaker 1: twenty five forty.

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Speaker 2: Five and one.

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Speaker 3: The Giants sucked though, let's get a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you are your quarterback. I mean, if he'd

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Speaker 1: have been some sort of golden boy. But we did

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Speaker 1: like him when he was coming out. I think he

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Speaker 1: went the Duke and he was working with Peyton Manning

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Speaker 2: For the Giants at all.

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Speaker 3: You see my point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, so how how like, Look, we don't

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Speaker 1: do one when there's breaking news that affects the city,

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Speaker 1: but also too when it sort of affects society. And

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Speaker 1: what the Colts do affects society because we're all by

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Speaker 1: force tied into that stupid stadium that we have to

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Speaker 1: pay for it. And when you are pinning your hopes

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Speaker 1: on a guy whose lifetime accomplishments in the league. By

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Speaker 1: the way, he's been in the league, what is this one, two, three,

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Speaker 1: six years now, So he's not the spring chicken.

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Speaker 2: When he's twenty four, forty five and one?

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Speaker 1: What does that say about what the Colts actually thought

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Speaker 1: of Anthony Richardson. Well, Anthony Richarson can't finish the season yet,

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Speaker 1: So let's see him finish the season first, and then

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Speaker 3: You got to be on the field to make a difference.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is fascinating because I think people like me thought, Okay,

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Speaker 1: they've invested so much in him that you've got to

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Speaker 1: let him fail one more time to declare okay, three

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Speaker 1: then you suck, and then we put in Danny Dimes

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Speaker 1: and then now we've ruined this second third year kid.

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Speaker 2: But he's already ruined.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so you're trying.

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Speaker 1: He's only played like twelve games his whole life, always

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Speaker 1: played and the college it was like twelve games. Think

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Speaker 1: he's played like seventeen games. That's what I'm his whole

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Speaker 1: college career. He got grow on the pros, but he stinks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta admit that, because what are you

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Speaker 1: not very good? But I think you're spoiled, Rob, I

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Speaker 1: think you're I'm a barrasser. Tell me how spoiled? I well,

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Speaker 1: you don't mean to listen.

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Speaker 3: You have no right to talk about my quarterback.

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Speaker 1: My quarterback look doesn't paint his fingernails good enough, deal

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Speaker 1: with that.

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Speaker 2: But it is.

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Speaker 1: It is a sticking indictment of the guy. Though that

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Speaker 1: What if we want to suck for Archie Manning? What

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Speaker 3: Archie Manning is the number one quarterback coming. Even though

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Speaker 1: Camer and I had this conversation on the Sports Betting

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Speaker 1: pompous of you to criticize my team, considering your team

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Speaker 1: doesn't even play in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Ever, never you went to the Super Bowl? How'd that

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: I won the Super Bowl? Howd that work out?

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Speaker 1: When you play the greatest team of all time? You

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Speaker 1: It's hard to get exciting for a team that's mediocre. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying is you're basically he doesn't make

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Speaker 1: because they're taking my money. But two dollars. It wouldn't

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Speaker 1: Let's try to win as many games as we can. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you never know how it works out. Look, Darnold

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Speaker 2: Good luck, Yeah, good luck with your season.

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Speaker 1: We'll need it, all right. You told me something. Hammer's

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Speaker 3: Dude?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I in because I think Hammer wants to get

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Speaker 2: You told me something that blew my mind.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't know the ages of your sibling, not

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Speaker 3: She works in the medical field.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was.

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Speaker 1: like thirty four thirty five ish?

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Speaker 1: You were like like Chris Farley and Tommy Boy, did

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Speaker 1: I hear a niner in there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't. I got it. I got a younger

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you didn't know his age either.

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Speaker 3: And that's one hundred percent honest. I'm not playing around.

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Speaker 1: I think he's fortyish, and I think my sister's got

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Speaker 3: So let's go with thirty four to thirty five.

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Speaker 1: That is that almost I almost fell on my chair

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Speaker 2: But yeah, but if you know.

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Speaker 1: She's nine and then she had another birth do you

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Speaker 3: So you just weren't my sister October twenty sixth, my

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Speaker 1: Ninth, attacking another year, another year on each other. You

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Speaker 3: I'd say happy birthday, bro.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, keV. I think this is bad sibling etiquette. Now,

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Speaker 1: I didn't have any siblings growing up.

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Speaker 3: So how would you?

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Speaker 1: Once again, you have no idea what you're talking about,

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Speaker 2: I have no idea of the hardship you endured growing up.

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Speaker 2: Be cav. You have a siblings.

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Speaker 3: I was a contractor, rob, thanks.

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Speaker 2: For your service.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got one older brother. I know his birth

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Speaker 1: I would think any sort of decent human would know

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Speaker 1: Shots fired, All right, take a break, hammer wants to

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Speaker 1: joys that it's getting in the redistricting thing, and a

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Speaker 1: at eleven thirty two, So a lot to get through

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Speaker 1: this hour. It's Kettle Case Show ninety three Wibcies. Well,

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Speaker 1: you called it a couple of years ago when they

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Speaker 1: took Richardson, because you watch a lot of SEC football.

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Speaker 1: Jason Hammer from The Hammer and Nigel Show joins us.

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Speaker 1: Now Jerry Lopez in for Casey. My name is Rob.

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Speaker 1: You said this guy stinks. He can't throw like great

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Speaker 1: physical specimen.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: He's a big, strong dude. But I've seen this movie before,

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Speaker 5: big strong guy, cannon of an arm. Can't make the throws,

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Speaker 5: to move the chains, can't read a defense, can't hit

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Speaker 5: a receiver when it's third and five. As a Tennessee

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Speaker 5: Vaull fan, I have watched a lot of SEC football,

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Speaker 5: and honestly, Anthony Richardson and Joe Milton, who is the

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Speaker 5: guy bazooka arm and all the scouts they foam at

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Speaker 5: the mouth.

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Speaker 3: Look how strong his arm is.

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Speaker 5: Great for the few times a game he could chuck

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Speaker 5: it down the field to you know, Alec Pierce. That's great,

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Speaker 5: But the rest of the game he stinks. And at

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Speaker 5: these dudes that can't read the defense and can't make

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Speaker 1: Kind of depressing if you're a Colts fan to know

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Speaker 1: you're a nine and eight at best team, though, I

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Speaker 2: Are our lawmakers? I am?

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Speaker 3: And here's why.

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Speaker 5: Like veins are sticking out of his neck. Listen, everything's

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Speaker 5: But here I've been listening to the bus driver is

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Speaker 5: I'm surprised it wasn't the microphone. But listen, okay, Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't care about Indiana. I get that, and I

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Speaker 5: all right, because there's no bigger zero. There's no bigger

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Speaker 2: They had his last name as Ireland. Remember they had

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Speaker 5: That's got to be worth something, right, Yeah, but he

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Speaker 1: If he'd said Rod Bray is a walking goon, I

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Speaker 5: It's more of the leadership, right, and that's who the

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Speaker 2: I mean, the.

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Speaker 1: But he did But why didn't he do it for

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Speaker 5: Oh, come on, Rob, you're so full of crap. This

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Speaker 5: Stop it? Who are you? What happened to the Rob

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Speaker 3: Get him Hammers's not doing he's not doing about the

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Speaker 5: Turned into Keith Olberg's who you are.

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Speaker 3: That's who you are what this show has become.

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Speaker 5: If you're gonna ray about Republicans and tell somebody that's

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Speaker 2: Does it and now you're mad about it?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing this afternoon other than making fun

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Speaker 5: Hey, I'll make fun of Rod Bray, maybe you won't

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Speaker 5: be mad at me. Rob Wiener, Jeff Bobbs is gonna

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Speaker 5: Brian tickets.

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Speaker 2: Oh how excited?

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Speaker 5: How how stink and exciting because he loves Luke Bryan

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Speaker 5: and we've got tickets to give away. So we're gonna

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Speaker 1: That, well, you're former producer. Make a Mondo be calling in.

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Speaker 1: You know, he does the greatest Luke Bryan impersonation.

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Speaker 5: We've got something planned later in the week for that.

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Speaker 1: we got a super special guest. You've heard him. Me

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Speaker 1: of the rock's most famous musicians. It's Kenny Casey Show.

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Speaker 1: my gosh, I'm so excited about this next segment. He

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Speaker 1: Now, Troy, Hello, Hey, Rov, you've been what like almost

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think I just worked around town long enough that

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Speaker 3: So like, what is that? Like?

443
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Speaker 2: Does John call you?

444
00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,479
Speaker 3: How do you get asked to be in the band?

445
00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,159
Speaker 4: Well, when I got the call, it was to do

446
00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,679
Speaker 4: some recording for the Ghost Brothers of Darkland County. It

447
00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,800
Speaker 4: was a musical he was working on Stephen King at

448
00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:57,400
Speaker 4: the time, and his keyboard player lived in Austin and

449
00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,520
Speaker 4: had his solo career and something going on. So they

450
00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,120
Speaker 4: just needed me to come in and record for four days.

451
00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,400
Speaker 4: I got the call on a Thursday afternoon to come

452
00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,919
Speaker 4: to be there on Monday morning. The problem with that

453
00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,000
Speaker 4: is that my brother and I were planning a trip,

454
00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,320
Speaker 4: a weekend trip to New Orleans to move our grandparents

455
00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,520
Speaker 4: back to Muncie that we're living there and just endure

456
00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,520
Speaker 4: endure Hurricane Katrina and Hurricane Rita.

457
00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:24,240
Speaker 2: Oh wow.

458
00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,280
Speaker 3: So we were leaving.

459
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,600
Speaker 4: The next day to go to New Orleans and I

460
00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,639
Speaker 4: hadn't really been playing my accordion a whole lot, and

461
00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,639
Speaker 4: at the time, the instrumentation they had for that musical

462
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,720
Speaker 4: were two guitars, violin and accordion.

463
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Speaker 1: So is it like with music, like do you have

464
00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,360
Speaker 1: to warm up? Do you have to practice?

465
00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:46,000
Speaker 2: Is like golf?

466
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,600
Speaker 1: Where you got to play the course a couple of

467
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,680
Speaker 1: times you can't better.

468
00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,440
Speaker 4: Not like a singer really has to warm up their voice.

469
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,040
Speaker 4: It's not so much with you know, with playing keywords.

470
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,160
Speaker 4: I mean it's good to warm up, but playing accordion. Yeah,

471
00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,280
Speaker 4: it was just one of those things that you you know,

472
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,400
Speaker 4: it's a it's a workout.

473
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,439
Speaker 1: Because keys you do everything. Like at one point at

474
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,000
Speaker 1: far Maide you were like a Dick van Dyke character

475
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,440
Speaker 1: where you were playing a pedal drum and an accordion, right,

476
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,120
Speaker 1: I mean like you have to do like piano, all

477
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,400
Speaker 1: of these different things you have to know how to do.

478
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,080
Speaker 4: In that case, Yes, it was definitely John that called

479
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,159
Speaker 4: and had the idea for me to do that. I

480
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,199
Speaker 4: never dreamed of playing bass, drum and and accordion at

481
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 4: the same time, but I figured it out. Yeah, I

482
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,040
Speaker 4: try had enough notice that I could hold up in

483
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 4: my basement for like three weeks, and yeah, stand on

484
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:36,000
Speaker 4: one foot.

485
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 1: Troy Kenna is our guest. He is the keyboard player,

486
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 1: longtime indie musician. He's a keyboard player for John Mellencamp,

487
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,439
Speaker 1: in with him for twenty years and and so like

488
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:48,240
Speaker 1: you go and it's like hello, mister Mellencamp, Hello, John, Like,

489
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 1: how does that work?

490
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:50,920
Speaker 3: Well?

491
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 4: It went really well. I'll have to say I was ready.

492
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 4: I practiced in the back of my brother's truck as

493
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 4: he drove down there, and he had to endure her

494
00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 4: that that's so.

495
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,920
Speaker 3: Well, so like you're on your way to Yes, I

496
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 3: had to do it.

497
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 4: I had like fourteen songs I had to learn on

498
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,680
Speaker 4: and so I was ready for Monday morning. And I

499
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 4: have to say it just went really well. And uh,

500
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 4: six months later there was an opening do.

501
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 2: You do you act?

502
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I assume you have to act like you've

503
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 1: been there, right, Kele Like, oh my gosh, this is

504
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 1: a big deal.

505
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 2: I'm here with John Mellen. Can you get act like? Okay?

506
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 2: Yeah this, Yeah, we're just here doing some music.

507
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:25,919
Speaker 1: You know what?

508
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 4: With him? I had In the early nineties, I worked

509
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 4: at TRC Studios as an entry level writer producer. John

510
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 4: Cassella was the main writer there, so I knew him.

511
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 4: I always thought that maybe I would get this job.

512
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 4: I thought that this is the job I should be doing.

513
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 4: I you know, I'm and I think I'm a good

514
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 4: fit for the band.

515
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 3: So you saw it in your mind?

516
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I knew it's like I belong here when I

517
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 4: was you know, as soon as I was recording with

518
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 4: at Belmont. You know, There's been a lot of other

519
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 4: other situations where I've been really intimidated. That was one.

520
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 4: For some reason, I just felt like I am ready

521
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 4: for this.

522
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 3: Is it like the Bachelor where they give you the

523
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 3: rose or hey, you're in the band?

524
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 2: Like?

525
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 4: No, actually, And you know what part of it maybe

526
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 4: is that there wasn't It wasn't an audition, It was

527
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 4: just recording.

528
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

529
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 4: He clearly had another keyboard player that had been touring

530
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 4: with him, and this was just you know, you're just

531
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 4: here to do a job and play for the session. Well,

532
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 4: it went really well. We hit it off and then

533
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 4: so when there was an opening, I was a no brainer.

534
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 4: They just called me and I was in.

535
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 1: Troy Kenna is our guest. He's a keyboard player for

536
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: John Mellencamp. How does that change your life? I mean,

537
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: you are a very well known, like you said, session musician.

538
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 1: You'd played with all sorts of bands. I tell people

539
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: were friends and people who have been around the indie

540
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:49,679
Speaker 1: music scene for a long time, and they tell these

541
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 1: incredible stories about you in the eighties and nineties. Not

542
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 1: to date you, but but like, how does that change

543
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 1: your life to then be on tour, to be recording

544
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,959
Speaker 1: with a on melon camp because you have many jobs

545
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: in music outside of just doing that, right, I.

546
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 4: Think, you know, he's probably doesn't tour as much as

547
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 4: some bands that are out there. So I was always

548
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 4: able to keep my other things going. I played a

549
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 4: church gig at the time. I kept that going like

550
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 4: forty weeks a year, maybe so crazy.

551
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 3: Look at our town, they know.

552
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 2: Him from me.

553
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 4: And session work. I've got a little mobile rig. I

554
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 4: can do tracks when i've if I've got two days

555
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 4: off in a hotel room. It's good to have a

556
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 4: project to work on, you know, it's good and so

557
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 4: I can do that. Everybody in the band has got

558
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 4: something like that that they you know they can do.

559
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 1: You get impressed by musicians anymore, like.

560
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Yes, there's so many multi talented, multi

561
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 4: instrumentalists that I've that I meet. Nowadays, it seems like

562
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 4: I just met Kevin. I bet he plays guitar too,

563
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,439
Speaker 4: Producer Kevin, Yeah, I mean, and look at what he

564
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 4: does in there. So but yeah, that's the the new thing.

565
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 4: I think, is that what I'm realizing with a lot

566
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 4: of young players is that they can play a lot

567
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 4: of instruments.

568
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 2: And that's probably changed a lot because of the way.

569
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: I mean, there are record companies, but it's like the

570
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: way things get produced and made. Now people can make

571
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: them in their own home. So if you can learn

572
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:19,919
Speaker 1: how to do, the more stuff you can learn how

573
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 1: to do, the easier it is for you.

574
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 4: Right.

575
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you've toured like like, it's so cool. I

576
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: live vicariously through you every time you're out on a tour,

577
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: Like you toured with Bob Dylan one time.

578
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, we did a tour. It was a minor league ballparks.

579
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 4: Actually Willie Nelson was on that one year. The next

580
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 4: year it was just Bob and John and then there

581
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 4: was the dough Rollers. I think we're the opening man.

582
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,959
Speaker 1: But yeah, this is so cool because you guys actually

583
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: went to like minor league the state the stadiums that

584
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: had the concerts in the stadiums.

585
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 4: Right, And last year we did the Outlaw Tour, Willie

586
00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 4: Nelson's Outlaw Tour, and Bob was on that, so, oh

587
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 4: my gosh, it was incredible.

588
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 2: You're a big fan, are you?

589
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 4: Yeah? And Willie too, Yeah, I mean, we've seen Willie

590
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 4: at so many farm aids, but to see him from

591
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 4: the side of the stage do his thing and it's

592
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 4: like ninety two years old, that was a blessing.

593
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome. Troy Kennet's our guess.

594
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: He's a keyboard player for John Mellencamp, legendary indep musician.

595
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: I would be remiss if I didn't ask on multiple occasions. Now,

596
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: I think you've played with with Bruce right.

597
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 4: A couple times. That's right, we did the you know,

598
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 4: he was on the record Strictly One Eyed Jack in

599
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 4: twenty twenty.

600
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 2: One Wasted Days. Yes, now I can.

601
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: I hope you don't mind me telling this story, But

602
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: you did your part before he came in with John, right, Like. Yeah,

603
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: I don't mean to like if I'm doing some big

604
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: reveal here, but when they put albums together, everybody kind

605
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: of does their part and then it gets put together

606
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: and becomes an album.

607
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 4: Right, right, the band did our thing, and then it

608
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 4: was It might have been a couple months later. I

609
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 4: don't know when Bruce came there and did some did

610
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,479
Speaker 4: his vocals, did some guitar. So I wasn't there at

611
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 4: the time.

612
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you know it. Did you know he was

613
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 2: coming in? Yes?

614
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 4: Ohkause I got a yeah cause you told me an

615
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,479
Speaker 4: insider said, hey, he's digging your piano.

616
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

617
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, that's so cool. But

618
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: you played with him, like on on stage with him two.

619
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, he did a h there's a fundraiser he does

620
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 4: called stand Up for Heroes, and he got it. We

621
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 4: uh play a small combo violinist, guitarist John and me

622
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 4: did that and Bruce got up and did a song

623
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 4: with us. It was a couple of years later, so

624
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 4: that's when I finally got to meet him. And then

625
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 4: when we did when we were on tour last year

626
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 4: played Pink Pink Houses, we were in New Jersey, he

627
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 4: got up and did that with us.

628
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: What's the etiquette when you meet because like, as a fan,

629
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: obviously I was fortunate enough to win some sort of

630
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: lottery where I got to meet Bruce for a minute.

631
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 1: But you're a fan, right, is there some sort of

632
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: musician etiquette when you meet other musicians?

633
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 4: I would say so, yeah, kind of unwritten. We did

634
00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 4: a sound check and I just just stayed in my

635
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 4: place and just kept you know, we just sound checked

636
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 4: and it wasn't any big deal there. Yeah, the the

637
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 4: vocals are good. Can you hear Bruce? And it was

638
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 4: all that. But then when we were done, I kind

639
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 4: of hovered for maybe a minute on the stage and

640
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 4: he was still there. So I walked over and said, yeah,

641
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 4: it's fine, great to finally meet you after doing this recording,

642
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,959
Speaker 4: and I thought we'd finally do a show. Sometimes.

643
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: Troy Kennet's our guest. He's the keyboard player for John Mellencamp.

644
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: Who inspired you?

645
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 4: Because I like you Ron, Yeah, you know, I grew

646
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 4: up in the so the music of the early seventies.

647
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 4: I think Talking Book was my first eight track.

648
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: Did you say I want to be that guy? Or

649
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: I want to be like that guy?

650
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 4: Like like you know, well, no, you know, like with

651
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 4: Elton John the Honky Chateau album. I played the heck

652
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 4: out of that. But I think I never saw myself

653
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 4: as being the artist, but I always just wanted to

654
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 4: be the piano player.

655
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's a couple of minutes that we have left

656
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: here with you? These are all things I wanted to ask.

657
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: I've been at Troy for years to come in and

658
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: do this, and so this is great, great for me.

659
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: What's it like home life like because obviously you have

660
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: your son has grown. Now I'm curious, you know, like

661
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, he wasn't and I'm curious how you

662
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: were able to balance that, especially with your your wife,

663
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Speaker 1: et cetera.

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Speaker 4: Well, I started touring when he was six seven years old,

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Speaker 4: and the way it went is that, you know, I

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Speaker 4: didn't I wasn't able to see him for weeks at

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Speaker 4: a time. But then when I was home, I was

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Speaker 4: with him every day. Yeah, I would take him to school,

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Speaker 4: I would pick him up. Yeah, we would do you know,

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Speaker 4: so weekends, I was there a lot. Now, there was

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Speaker 4: a period of time I guess before that I did,

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Speaker 4: you know, it was tougher, you know, not getting I

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Speaker 4: would get to see him for an hour before he

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Speaker 4: went to bed, before I went and played shows at

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Speaker 4: Beef and Board. Sure, or I would be home with

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Speaker 4: him during the day and then so but once I

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Speaker 4: started playing with John, it's it was great, but at

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Speaker 4: times a roller coaster ride.

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Speaker 1: Do you still I mean, you still love doing music, right,

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Speaker 1: Like it's not a job to you still love this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I mean it has its good and bad days like

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Speaker 4: any other job. But you know, we made the best

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Speaker 4: of it with remember Skype. Yeah, yeah, Sam would be

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Speaker 4: swimming at a swim meet and I would be in

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Speaker 4: Canada on Skype.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going go Sam, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And then it would cut out, and you know it's

689
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Speaker 4: like that. Everybody has to I guess parents go through that.

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Speaker 4: They could be across town and still doing that.

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Speaker 1: So we talked to fifty thousand people a day, but

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Speaker 1: I don't see anybody like I see you. I'll see Jerry,

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Speaker 1: I see Kevin.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have to look at people.

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Speaker 1: You have to go out in front of the people,

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Speaker 1: Like I would be mortified to be in front of

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Speaker 1: that many people. If somebody said, there's fifty thousand people.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever do you see the people? Do you

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Speaker 1: notice them?

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Speaker 4: As it's really hard to When they're people I know

702
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 4: my brother's there or whoever, and I know where they're sitting,

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00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 4: I can never find them during the show. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: I don't try to hard, but you know, I'll look

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Speaker 4: out there in the general area where I know they

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Speaker 4: should be sitting, and it's always hard to find. But

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Speaker 4: then if they're really close, you know, you see some faces,

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Speaker 4: but for the most part, you're pretty far removed from

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Speaker 4: you know, most of the people.

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Speaker 1: If you'd have told yourself when you were like in

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Speaker 1: the eighties early nice, when you were grinding, like I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna end up with Mellencamp, would you have ever believe that?

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean I thought, yeah, I always thought

714
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Speaker 4: I would be doing this with somebody at this level.

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Speaker 4: It just took me a long time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And that's awesome, man, And you're such a good dude.

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Speaker 1: And I'm so glad we were able to do this

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Speaker 1: because local music. I do fear for local music like

720
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Speaker 1: the future, right, because the way record contracts work or

721
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Speaker 1: don't work now. And you're one of those guys that

722
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Speaker 1: can tell that success story, like you did all these

723
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Speaker 1: cool things locally. You're in Indiana guy, and then you

724
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Speaker 1: end up getting to do this really amazing thing later

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Speaker 1: on in your career.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to say, I'm I'm pretty lucky.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Troy, thanks for being with this day, man. I

728
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Speaker 2: really appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: It's Kennel Casey Show ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 2: It's Kennel and Casey Show. So much for joining us.

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Speaker 2: I'm rob Casey's out today.

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Speaker 1: She'll be back tomorrow. Jerry Lopez in for Casey. Jerry,

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Speaker 1: thank you as always for the outstanding job you do,

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Speaker 1: and Casey can't be gracing us with her presence.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it. I've had an absolute blast.

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Speaker 1: What four days in a row now, that's right, did

738
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Speaker 1: some double duty on Friday with the Tony Kennett Show.

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Speaker 1: So been up here a lot, and it's always a

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Speaker 1: great time. This year, buddy, you know, like it's funny.

741
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Speaker 1: So I'm working on a little piece for a WIBC

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Speaker 1: dot com Monday. This coming Monday, it will be the

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Speaker 1: fiftieth anniversary Born to Run, which is my all time

744
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: the album that really changed my life. And they thought, hey,

745
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: that would be cool because music and Bruce Springstet in particular,

746
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: so it's such a big part of our show and

747
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: we talk about these things so much, and they said,

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Speaker 1: would it be would be cool if you did a

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Speaker 1: little piece on that about what it's meant to you

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Speaker 1: and other albums and talk about that. And one of

751
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: the reoccurring themes of our show is my life is

752
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: a constant struggle of the idealism of how things ought

753
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: to be versus the harshness of how they are. And

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Speaker 1: I think this redistricting thing, which was obviously the driver

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Speaker 1: of the show today, and how these lawmakers are behaving

756
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Speaker 1: on it. They're flip flopping on it in some cases,

757
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: like Craig Haggard. By the way you've done, Craig Haggard,

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Speaker 1: you won't be able to get elected dog catcher by

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Speaker 1: the time I'm done with you, much less ever, end

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Speaker 1: up in the Congress. When a guy like that just

761
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: lies to you, and lies not just to me but

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Speaker 1: to our audience, it is again another example of the

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Speaker 1: direct collision of how things ought to be. There ought

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Speaker 1: to be good and decent people who run our society,

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Speaker 1: even if you don't agree with them. It ought to

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Speaker 1: be people who are above reproach, who are there trying

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Speaker 1: to do the right thing. And instead, the harshness of

768
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Speaker 1: the reality of voting, of our system of governance, is

769
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: that it is people who are constantly cutting corners. They're

770
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: constantly putting them first. They're constantly looking out for what

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Speaker 1: is best for them and for their political career, and

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Speaker 1: they're looking out for you last. And this whole thing

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Speaker 1: is another reminder of just how scummy, just a rotten

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Speaker 1: and scummy so many of these people in elected office are.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a shame that they can show up here,

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Speaker 1: show up to their constituents, say all the right things,

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Speaker 1: but when Penn comes to paper and it's time to

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Speaker 1: make decisions, they just fall in line. They don't represent us,

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Speaker 1: They represent a their own best interest. What can keep

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Speaker 1: me getting reelected, keep the money coming in and be

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Speaker 1: how do I become part of the club if I'm

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Speaker 1: already not there? And that's what this is. This is

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk going are you going against the club?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And in the case of someone like Craig heard you lied.

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Speaker 1: It's not that I disagree lead you at least say

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Speaker 1: you know what, I agree with it, and then let's

788
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Speaker 1: debate it. Why I'm but don't come on here and

789
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Speaker 1: say we're not going to do it. And they're trying

790
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Speaker 1: to say, eh, we're going to six days later. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he made and he made these definitive statements, not just

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Speaker 1: to me or our audience.

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Speaker 2: He made it to numerous places.

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Speaker 1: And the only logical reason is a guy like Craig

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Speaker 1: Haggard is such a gutless pathiy a coward that he

796
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: got bullied by some podcaster in Arizona. He got bullied

797
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: by the White House. Well, if he can get he's not.

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Speaker 1: He's not even in yet. He's been campaigning for a week.

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Speaker 1: You think having Charlie kirk is as an enemy is bad, Craig,

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Speaker 1: you ain't seen nothing yet, because you know what, Charlie

801
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Speaker 1: Kirk's gonna forget about you when he gets his way

802
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: in a few months. I'm gonna be here until November

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Speaker 1: in next year. Not that you're gonna get to November

804
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Speaker 1: in next year. But if you you made your choice, buddy,

805
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: you made your choice, which you get. But by the way,

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Speaker 1: how can he how can he wreck the fight? Can

807
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Speaker 1: he come on here and talk to you about what

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Speaker 1: what happened?

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Speaker 3: Or no?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me why you lied to my audience? Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he knows had.

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Speaker 3: A change of mind. Look, I just had a in

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Speaker 3: six days, he'd have a change of mind.

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Speaker 2: He got bullied.

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna shop and talk, and he's gonna learn

816
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: the hard way like other people have learned the hard way.

817
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Speaker 1: Because I got the o CD and I'm a pretty

818
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: neurotic guy. And the worst thing you can do is

819
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Speaker 1: lie to me. Why are we so hard on Dan?

820
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: Because I know he's lying. I know he's lying. It's

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Speaker 1: there are people I disagree with all the time. All

822
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: these Democrats, I know what they are, but they're honest

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Speaker 1: about what they are, how they view things, and then

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Speaker 1: reasonable people. But when somebody just lies right to your

825
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: face and they're all doing it in their own shape,

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Speaker 1: farm or fashion. Look at Victorious Sparts and the nonsense

827
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Speaker 1: about her. Maybe I'll just quit in the middle of

828
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: my term, and then she's running for election again. Jefferson shreeve.

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Speaker 1: I won't even vote for Trump, but now I'm totally

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Speaker 1: subservient to him.

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Speaker 3: All of these.

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Speaker 1: People are the reason because they're all over the country.

833
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: They're in every state legislature, They're in every city council.

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Speaker 1: They're certainly making up our federal government. The spineless, gutless, dishonest,

835
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Speaker 1: backstabbing weasels are making choices for everybody else. So this

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Speaker 1: was I'm glad you were here for all this. Jared, Hey,

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Speaker 1: tell us how you really.

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Speaker 3: Did, brother fairness.

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Speaker 5: I did ask you if you.

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Speaker 1: Wanted a measured approach today, and you lived up to

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Speaker 1: my expectations.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it was awesome having you this over the

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Speaker 2: past four days. Thank you, buddy.

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Speaker 3: All right, stick around cab great job is always thank

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Speaker 3: you to you, the listener.

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Speaker 2: Without you, there is no US.

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