Speaker 1: Ron Hatklinsky, who is the former Anderson coach and a
Speaker 1: great high school basketball coach, was coaching Edgewood when I
Speaker 1: was in high school and I needed to play for
Speaker 1: somebody like that who would kick my ass because I
Speaker 1: was just such a clownish woss I.
Speaker 2: Was back on that.
Speaker 1: That's a regret. I don't want to have any regrets,
Speaker 1: but that's a regret I have. So maybe your dad
Speaker 1: could have done that right, could.
Speaker 2: Have worked it turned out differently. Joe could have.
Speaker 3: Coming from the same crowd who crying about Notre Dame
Speaker 3: schedule constantly. Can you imagine sending that to me just now?
Speaker 3: I wonder was he seriously?
Speaker 2: I need it?
Speaker 1: And I know a lot of you probably evaluate things
Speaker 1: over the course.
Speaker 2: Of your life.
Speaker 1: I do this all the time, and that was a
Speaker 1: defining moment. Not that everybody around me at that time
Speaker 1: was not good. They were good people, but I was
Speaker 1: able to get away with stuff, and I wish now
Speaker 1: that I I wasn't.
Speaker 2: Are they Andy Moore out of montif Group plotline.
Speaker 1: He is the author of the biggest play in the
Speaker 1: history of the Indianapolis Colts and a friend of this show.
Speaker 2: Marlon Jackson joins us. How you doing, Pal, I'm good, Dane,
Speaker 2: How you doing?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 2: It feels way too long.
Speaker 1: Did you look back on your playing career on whatever
Speaker 1: level and think, Man, I'm glad I was pushed in
Speaker 1: the fashion of which I was.
Speaker 4: Oh, man, I was well, I was listening, you know,
Speaker 4: as you're talking about life. You know, I don't have
Speaker 4: the necessarily look back and think I wish I was pushing.
Speaker 4: I mean I was pushed hard from an early age
Speaker 4: just for my life circumstance period, right, Like you know,
Speaker 4: I grew up with a lot of adversity within my household,
Speaker 4: within my community, so that that shaped my attitude, and
Speaker 4: that shaped my mindset as a competitor. So the playing
Speaker 4: field that was my outlet, right to let out everything
Speaker 4: that was pented up on the inside from having difficulties
Speaker 4: in everyday life and struggles, and that became my outlet.
Speaker 5: On the football field.
Speaker 4: But you know, and listening to everything you guys are
Speaker 4: talking about, adversity.
Speaker 5: Is helpful in helping you grow.
Speaker 4: The only way you actually really grow in life is
Speaker 4: through challenges and through adversities, is not through everything being
Speaker 4: perfect and everybody telling you how great you are and
Speaker 4: not having any difficulties. That's not where growth really occurs
Speaker 4: in life.
Speaker 1: I so wish, looking back on it, that I was
Speaker 1: challenged even more I do. And you know, you're kind
Speaker 1: of like I talked to my kids about not having regrets,
Speaker 1: and that's one massive regret that I have that I
Speaker 1: have to live with right now too.
Speaker 2: And maybe it's easier to look in the review.
Speaker 1: To see exactly who you were, and like, I enjoy
Speaker 1: who I am right now, but I just wish that
Speaker 1: there would have been more that could have been squeezed out.
Speaker 2: Of me at the time.
Speaker 1: And honestly, I don't I feel bad because I kind
Speaker 1: of wood out on a lot of things back then too,
Speaker 1: And I have a great deal of admiration for those
Speaker 1: guys that were coach hard. They agree to be coach hard,
Speaker 1: and then those that also coach them hard.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it's always a fine line, but I've been
Speaker 4: that's some of the challenges in society now is you know,
Speaker 4: parents being okay with their kids being pushed and being
Speaker 4: coached hard, understanding that the ultimate goal is about growth
Speaker 4: and it's not necessarily about their comfort level and where
Speaker 4: they are right now, but where we would like them
Speaker 4: to be and it's going to take some challenges and
Speaker 4: challenging moments to actually help them get to that possibility
Speaker 4: that is within them.
Speaker 1: So, Marlin Jackson, who joins us on the Andy Moore
Speaker 1: Automotive Group hoodline, what is your thought on this coach team,
Speaker 1: not just for what you've seen so far in camp,
Speaker 1: but for the expectation. I mean, there are a lot
Speaker 1: of question marks and really going into the season, there
Speaker 1: is a lot of crossing your fingers and hoping. But
Speaker 1: what is your expectation for this group as we view
Speaker 1: it right now early stages of camp and Westfield.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, the only thing that comes to my
Speaker 4: mind when you pose that question is there's a lot
Speaker 4: of potential, right And I say, there's a lot of
Speaker 4: potential because of what we saw last year before the
Speaker 4: injuries occurred, and having that perspective and seeing in the
Speaker 4: current roster, knowing that if we stay healthy, this could
Speaker 4: be a really, really good team with Daniel Jones at quarterback,
Speaker 4: a strong offensive line, Dalton Taylor at running back, Alec Pearce,
Speaker 4: Josh Downs and others. Right, you know, there's a lot
Speaker 4: of potential offense when you look at the defense and
Speaker 4: you look at this young talented secondary. You look at
Speaker 4: the young guys along the defensive front along with the
Speaker 4: veterans that are anchors up front, like the Forest Butner
Speaker 4: and Grover, and then you look at the young talent
Speaker 4: at the linebacker position and safety position. You see that
Speaker 4: there's a lot of potential, but it is all predicated
Speaker 4: on do we stay healthy? That is for me, that
Speaker 4: is the number one factor going into this season is
Speaker 4: can the key players on this team stay healthy? Can
Speaker 4: you keep Daniel Jones healthy? Can you keep Jonathan Taylor healthy?
Speaker 4: Can you keep Alec Pearce healthy?
Speaker 5: Like those are.
Speaker 4: The critical things that you know as this season unfolds,
Speaker 4: It's what I will watch.
Speaker 5: Can you keep Sauce Gardner healthy? Right? Can you keep
Speaker 5: Mooney Ward healthy? Which is a big.
Speaker 4: Question mark when you speak about a guy like him
Speaker 4: that has concussion issues. You know, football is a very
Speaker 4: physical sport and we saw the potential on the customer
Speaker 4: being realized last season, but then we saw the wheels
Speaker 4: fall off when the injury started to occur.
Speaker 1: Mother Jackson with us, you are a valued member. As
Speaker 1: I mentioned, you're the author of the biggest player in
Speaker 1: the history of the Indianapolis Colts. Of that Colt secondary.
Speaker 1: How do you view up and down this Colt secondary.
Speaker 1: Maybe compare that between the one you played with and
Speaker 1: the expectations that you feel. Hopefully, when healthy, this group
Speaker 1: can live up to.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean the disguise the limit when I when
Speaker 4: I look at this secondary on paper, I think, arguably,
Speaker 4: talent wise, one of the best secondaries in the National
Speaker 4: Football League. When you look at the corners and then
Speaker 4: you look at Cam Binenen as safety, but then when
Speaker 4: you look at you know, uh, the young guy that
Speaker 4: we brought in on an L s u A A. J.
Speaker 5: Halsey, and then you know, if you.
Speaker 4: Look at Wally at nickelback, there is a lot to
Speaker 4: be excited about. Wally is picking up right where he
Speaker 4: left off in training camp last year.
Speaker 5: Is great to see.
Speaker 4: Is great to see Sauce Gardner healthy because we all
Speaker 4: know he's an all.
Speaker 5: Pro level player.
Speaker 4: But then you know, we know what Mooney Water can
Speaker 4: do when he's actually healthy, and then we know the
Speaker 4: playmaking ability that Cam buying him has, So then you know,
Speaker 4: you add in AJ Halsey as a young talented safety
Speaker 4: if he plays up to the level of his potential,
Speaker 4: the those starters in terms of the two corners, the nickelback,
Speaker 4: the two safeties, I mean, arguably the best in the league.
Speaker 4: But then it comes into play. We all know that
Speaker 4: at some point in time of the season that they're
Speaker 4: going to uh be some guys that need to step up,
Speaker 4: right the backups. So then it's about death. What does
Speaker 4: the death look like at secondary? We really want to
Speaker 4: find out until we are tested. But when you look
Speaker 4: at the front line, it is arguably one of the
Speaker 4: most talented secondaries in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting too, and Mola Jackson joins us on
Speaker 1: Andy More Automotive Group podline that we're not going to
Speaker 1: find out a lot of things until week number one
Speaker 1: against Baltimore. And that's why things get thick schedule wise
Speaker 1: with this team quickly in the first five weeks. You
Speaker 1: got to come correct or this is going to be
Speaker 1: problematic for the remainder two. And I think that's why
Speaker 1: you kind of look at this and you wonder, you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully Daniel Jones is ready. We've yet to talk about
Speaker 1: Alec Pearce. It maybe some edge rushing potential consistently with
Speaker 1: Leatu Latu can be involved in this, but a lot
Speaker 1: really has to come together early, and this has not
Speaker 1: been a staple of this Colts team history. Last year
Speaker 1: it was with injuries compromising things, but prior to that
Speaker 1: not so much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, we you know, we cannot afford to have
Speaker 4: one of the stars that we have historically had over
Speaker 4: the last we want to say, five.
Speaker 5: Plus seasons, with last year being the exception.
Speaker 4: With the difficulties that lie ahead in this with the scheduling,
Speaker 4: there is no room for air early in the season,
Speaker 4: and I think that has it should have created a
Speaker 4: sense of urgency in the off season, and even more
Speaker 4: so now that we are in training camp. So I'm
Speaker 4: sure the coaches are preaching urgency, consistency, finishing all of
Speaker 4: those all of those themes, right, you know, trying to
Speaker 4: drill that into the mindset, and then hopefully they're creating
Speaker 4: a highly competitive atmosphere daily at practice, because that is
Speaker 4: where it all starts, is competition in practice. Competition in
Speaker 4: practice leads to positive habits that transition into results within
Speaker 4: the game. So, you know, we can only speculate right now,
Speaker 4: but you know, these are my hopes of what I
Speaker 4: hope is occurring when in the meetings and on the
Speaker 4: practice field, the competition daily in meetings on the field,
Speaker 4: in the weight room, sharpening that iron, developing those habits
Speaker 4: so that we are ready to go out there and
Speaker 4: run through this first part of the season and build
Speaker 4: the confidence to sustain us to the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: Is Marla Jackson with us. We've talked about plenty of
Speaker 1: times in the past. Your foundation. You guys have something
Speaker 1: going on. It is a Colt Trivia event August, that's thirteenth,
Speaker 1: I believe, right, Marlon, talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, August, August thirteenth, we have the second second time
Speaker 4: that we're doing this coch Coach Trivia at the Skyline
Speaker 4: Skyline Club and Indianapolis. The Coach will be playing the
Speaker 4: New England Patriots in their first preseason game that evening.
Speaker 5: Leading up to that from six.
Speaker 4: To eight pm, you can come and hang out with me.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be the host for the evening on the
Speaker 4: behalf of the Fight for Life Foundation in the Skyline
Speaker 4: Club of Indianapolis. And really it's a relaxed, laid back
Speaker 4: environment where we're going to have five rounds of trivia
Speaker 4: that I will host. We're gonna have live music with
Speaker 4: DJ lock Star and when it is trivia.
Speaker 2: Is tough, right there? I like lockstar Man, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Great, great guy does a great job on the tables
Speaker 4: and always we always work with them a Fight for
Speaker 4: Life and silent auctions and then prizes you know for
Speaker 4: the first, second and third place teams and great food,
Speaker 4: networking and community as well in terms of all the opportunities.
Speaker 4: And we'll be making a special announcement as well on
Speaker 4: something that we're releasing at the Fight for Life Foundation.
Speaker 4: Tickets can be purchased on our website. If you go
Speaker 4: to ww dot ff LF dot org short for Fight
Speaker 4: for Life Foundation dot org and then go to the hub,
Speaker 4: you'll see an article that has information about the event
Speaker 4: and a link to purchase tickets.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. I tell you what we're gonna do too.
Speaker 2: Uh again, that is a what is that a week for?
Speaker 5: What is that?
Speaker 2: A week from tomorrow? Yeah, week from tomorrow, week one
Speaker 2: week from tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Why don't we I'll put you on hold when we
Speaker 1: hang up or or will we disconnect here you talked
Speaker 1: to Kaleble. We'll get you back on this time next
Speaker 1: week and make sure everybody is aware of that within
Speaker 1: that twenty four hour period. Marl do you want to
Speaker 1: do that. I got to have you on more man,
Speaker 1: this is been my bad. I've missed you a great deal.
Speaker 4: Oh I mean well I missed coming on too is
Speaker 4: always great. You always got great energy and it's great
Speaker 4: to connect and talk and talk coach football and just
Speaker 4: you know, life in general. As you started off this
Speaker 4: conversation talking about how you grew up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, big big Wisosi too. You're really proud to be
Speaker 1: on the big former Woosie right here, aren't you see?
Speaker 4: But but the key the key.
Speaker 5: Word is there is former the key word right, not
Speaker 5: not not current? You you outgrew that that phase of life.
Speaker 2: Do we know how our guy Bullet is doing these days?
Speaker 2: And again, Melvin Bullet, do we know how he's doing
Speaker 2: these days? Because people remember our show together back in
Speaker 2: the day.
Speaker 4: The Jackson, The Jackson and Bullet yam B. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: there's been it's been quite quite some time, but I
Speaker 4: have this swinging the Bullet and quite some time. But
Speaker 4: I see from Afar, looks like he's doing great things
Speaker 4: in Texas. He has a sports complex that he has
Speaker 4: down there and from what I can see, well, it
Speaker 4: looks like.
Speaker 5: He's doing well.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 1: Well, next Wednesday, we'll do this again to remind folks
Speaker 1: that's the Skyline Club, which is by the way, awesome
Speaker 1: right there. That is going to be a great time
Speaker 1: to be had by all. But Marlon will remind people
Speaker 1: all this with you on the show again next Wednesday.
Speaker 1: If that's okay with you, Yeah, that sounds great. We'll
Speaker 1: put you on hold. Marlon, you talked to Caleb. Will
Speaker 1: set that up for next week. But it's good to
Speaker 1: have you back on PAL.
Speaker 5: I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Marlon Jackson on the Andy Moore Automotive Group Potline Awesome, dude,
Speaker 1: Cayler said it up again for next Wednesday. I dig
Speaker 1: you know, I've only been in the Skyline Club one time,
Speaker 1: one damn time. I don't know how I've not been
Speaker 1: there more than once. I want to say that I
Speaker 1: was up in there. The one time I was there
Speaker 1: was thanks to our good friend and Paris. One time
Speaker 1: in the Skyline.
Speaker 3: This is legit.
Speaker 2: Actually, I think I had to speak at the Skyline.
Speaker 1: Because you know that there are probably some pre speech
Speaker 1: cocktails to make sure that this guy was ready to rock.
Speaker 2: Marlin does a great JEMM, just what a great guy.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Derek for sending me that to the Skyline
Speaker 1: Charity Classic in partnership with the Fight for Life Foundation,
Speaker 1: six o'clock Colts Trivia, August the thirteenth, That is a
Speaker 1: week from tomorrow. I've got a little Colts pregame show
Speaker 1: coming up a week from tomorrow, Ronald, I'm excited about it.
Speaker 2: I will get Marlon back on next week.