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Speaker 1: Hammer and Nigel do you believe these characters are weirdos?

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Speaker 2: And everybody?

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Speaker 3: My name is Nigel. That's Jason Hammer right over there

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Speaker 3: with a very special guest on the hotline.

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Speaker 4: Kevin Bowen ninety three five one oh seven five, the

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Speaker 4: fan part of the morning show over there and KB.

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Speaker 4: Let's let me ask you this question first, right out

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Speaker 4: of the gate. Why are there so many haters about

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Speaker 4: this Philip Rivers experiment that the Colts are doing? Because, man,

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Speaker 4: I watched a lot of Red Zone yesterday before the

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Speaker 4: Colts came on. I've seen a lot of bad quarterback play.

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Speaker 4: There's some turds in this league. Why are there so

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Speaker 4: many haters about Grandpa Rivers coming in to try to

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Speaker 4: rescue this team?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think it's firly rooted in, Like, you know, is

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Speaker 1: there not someone else that you could find that hasn't

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Speaker 2: I guess to kind of further.

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Speaker 1: And a little bit, you know, basically he played over

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Speaker 1: of wait a minute, you know, you drafted this kid,

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Speaker 1: he's been in your system for the entire year. You know,

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Speaker 1: he led Notre Dame, helped lead Notre Dame to a

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Speaker 1: national championship game, and this guy, you know, can run

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Speaker 1: a little bit, and you instead went with Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 1: I think that's probably where some of it lies.

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Speaker 4: And as I told you when I jumped on your

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Speaker 4: show on Thursday, to me, it's not even about you know,

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Speaker 4: you couldn't find anybody that wasn't on the couch. Geno

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Speaker 4: Smith played yesterday and last week and the week before,

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Speaker 4: and he sucks. Whoever the Saints have and they're limping

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Speaker 4: to the finish line with NFL players, they all stink.

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Speaker 4: And maybe and again you're the Notre Dame guy and

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Speaker 4: I'm not. But why are we turning Riley Leonard all

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Speaker 4: of a sudden into the second coming of Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think Riley Leonard out played Philip Rivers if

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Speaker 1: you know, Leonard obviously came in in the middle of

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Speaker 2: Fumbled when Jonathan Taylor fumbled.

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Speaker 1: It like he was a part of the defense that

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Speaker 1: of summarize it all hammer like we're probably splitting hairs

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Speaker 1: and debating like Riley Leonard's point total in a game

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Speaker 1: I would have gone with Leonard. And I'm not like

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Speaker 1: you know, the one hundred and eighty ninth pick overall.

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Speaker 1: But if you give me those two options, I'd probably

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Speaker 1: it was archaic with Philip Rivers. You couldn't throw the

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Speaker 1: and you certainly stayed in the game. But if that's

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Speaker 4: What do we know about the Daniel Jones injury? Like

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Speaker 4: we know with Tyre's Halliburton, it was a year long recovery,

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Speaker 4: severe as Tyrese Haliburton's what do we know about that

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Speaker 2: Again, clear to play and looking good are probably two

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Speaker 2: different things. Now. The Pacers took a.

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Speaker 1: Much different approach now, you know. For if you look

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Speaker 2: So those are two, you know, very different timetables.

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Speaker 1: Mean, less things really change from upper management, and they

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Speaker 1: September whatever it is, September twelfth, next year.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Bowen wanted by the fan here on the Hammer

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Speaker 3: of Nigel show. The Colts lose than the Seahawks with

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Speaker 3: old Man Rivers be under center eighteen to sixteen. One

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Speaker 3: of the more heartbreaking losses you've ever seen for the Colts.

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Speaker 3: It was for me because I was rooting. I was

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Speaker 3: rooting the old man. That was That was That was devastating.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was a movie. I mean it

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Speaker 2: And Rivers is such a character, I mean is he not?

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Speaker 2: I mean he threw out the ball weird, he talks weird.

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Speaker 2: And and you add it up too.

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Speaker 2: Arguably their three best defensive players, and yet you still

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Speaker 1: And here's this tin size kicker coming in and banging

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Speaker 1: And then they got, you know, ripped out of you

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Speaker 4: All right, So it feels like and again I don't

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Speaker 4: the Colts probably have to win out to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: You got two divisional matchups to end the year, and

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Speaker 4: Monday Night football one week from tonight against San Francisco.

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Speaker 4: We believe Philip River will be the starter in that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Philip Rivers will start. Shane Stiken confirmed.

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Speaker 2: It has to look different, like.

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Speaker 1: That was an archaic dinosaur offense in trying to move

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Speaker 4: So one more thing here, KB, before we let you

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Speaker 4: go big weekend for the IU football program. You had

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Speaker 4: a very cool sixty minutes feature on Signetti and Fish

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Speaker 4: Mendoza wins the Heisman Trophy. Again, I said earlier, this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, first off, seeing Don Fisher give the pattent to

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma is that first round game. I you will play

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Speaker 1: the winner of that. Just remind everybody that is New

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Speaker 1: Year's Day out at the Rose Bowl. There a four

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Speaker 4: And for me, the best part about that Heisman Trophy

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Speaker 4: night was watching that little torp Diego go home with

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Speaker 4: another el Kevin. It brought joy to my cold dark singing.

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Speaker 4: Diego Pavia i e the love child of Pitbull and

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Speaker 4: the musa. Next germ go home with another loss, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you saw Diego on on social media and

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Speaker 2: A loser as you you would expect.

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Speaker 4: What's coming up on your show tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: So Rick Carlisle every Tuesday, we will have him at

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Speaker 1: nine o'clock, and also we will have the defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: of the Saint Michael Cardinals. Some might be saying, what

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Speaker 1: in the world are you talking about? That would be

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Speaker 1: the high school team that Philip Rivers coaches. So Philip

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Speaker 1: the Saint Michael High School Cardinals down in Alabama. His

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Speaker 1: up at nine point thirty tomorrow and talk about this

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Speaker 4: Ninety three five o seven five to defan. That's Kevin Bowen.

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Speaker 4: He does the morning show KB.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you, Thank you, gentlemen,