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Speaker 1: You listen to the hammeron Nigel Show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So what Sting that said, if I ever lose

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Speaker 2: my faith in you? I think there's a line in

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Speaker 2: this song where he says, I've lost my faith in

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Speaker 2: the politicians. And according to some new polling, both in

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Speaker 2: Indie Star and Indiana Capitol Chronicle New indianapols shows Hoosiers

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Speaker 2: losing faith in both parties as well as their own

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Speaker 2: leader's boy. Okay, let's talk about this, the state direction

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Speaker 2: and political dissatisfaction. Fifty three percent of Indiana voters say

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Speaker 2: that the state is on the wrong track.

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Speaker 1: I do want to go back to your line from

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Speaker 1: the Sting about the politicians, because it is pretty prophetic.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 1: The line in the song is you would say I

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Speaker 1: lost my belief in our politicians. They all seem like

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Speaker 1: game show hosts. To me, that almost like twenty five

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Speaker 1: years old, still pretty timely.

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Speaker 2: Still resonating, right, So stisfaction it spans all political groups,

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Speaker 2: seventy one percent of Dems, sixty one percent of Independence,

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Speaker 2: only twenty six percent of Republicans. And I know that

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Speaker 2: Rob had touched on this earlier this morning, that when

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Speaker 2: you look at the unfavorable views Donald Trump has a

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Speaker 2: rating of forty nine percent unfavorable, and Mike Brawn is

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Speaker 2: sitting at forty three percent unfavorable and the Secretary of

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Speaker 2: State is at seventeen percent unfavorable. He only is five

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Speaker 2: percent favorable. So you have to question nobody knows who

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Speaker 2: he is, Like, how do they not know who the

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Speaker 2: secretary of State is? Oh, because it doesn't affect their lives.

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Speaker 1: But it's just not that. Look, people are busy, and

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Speaker 1: we have to remember we live in the state capitol. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so state politics is always going to be front and

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Speaker 1: center and everything we do and talk about because the

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Speaker 1: capital is right here. If you live in Fort Wayne

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Speaker 1: or Evansville or South Bend or Merrillville these other population centers,

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Speaker 1: state politics is hardly ever talked about in those areas well.

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Speaker 2: And that, you know, just goes to Shi mentioned that

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Speaker 2: Bo Bai, who's running for Secretary of State, is a Democrat.

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Speaker 2: He did this TikTok the other day where he was

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Speaker 2: at the colts game and he was asking people if

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Speaker 2: they knew who Diego Morales was, and every single answer

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Speaker 2: was no.

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Speaker 1: And this pole proves that because five percent approval and

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Speaker 1: what was it, seventeen percent disapproval yep. So that means

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Speaker 1: that about eighty percent don't approve or disapprove, which means

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Speaker 1: they don't have any opinion and likely to have never

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Speaker 1: heard his name, or don't know who he is, or

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Speaker 1: don't know enough about him to have an approve or

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Speaker 1: disapprove opinion.

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Speaker 2: They were also asking about redistricting, and there were a

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Speaker 2: couple different polls that were put out about this. A

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Speaker 2: north Star poll said fifty three percent oppose early redistricting,

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Speaker 2: and there's another Unit America poll forty four percent oppose it.

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Speaker 1: I thought the interesting part about that was, and I

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Speaker 1: keep in mind, this is a poll that was done

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Speaker 1: of all registered voters. There's Democrats and Republicans in here,

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Speaker 1: but in one of those polls they just split out

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Speaker 1: the GOP voters. Fifty nine percent of Republicans don't want

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Speaker 1: this redistrict thing. That's the crux of all of this.

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Speaker 1: You've got this pressure from Washington on state lawmakers to

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Speaker 1: do this redistrict thing. It's a super majority Republican legislature,

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Speaker 1: yet Republicans in the state just don't want anything to

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Speaker 1: do with this. I mean, sixty percent is a pretty

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Speaker 1: big margin. That's a pretty big number of your own

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Speaker 1: party that says, yeah, we don't want to do this

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Speaker 1: yet here they are kind of begrudgingly going down that road.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, this was a United America poll, and it just

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Speaker 2: focuses on favorability and Donald Trump looking much better there

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Speaker 2: when you ask Republicans, Clearly he's dominating. Seventy eight percent

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Speaker 2: have a high opinion of him, but only fifty three

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Speaker 2: percent of Republicans are looking at our governor Mike Brown

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Speaker 2: within the same light. So why is it that everybody

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Speaker 2: is saying yes to Trump but not such a strong

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Speaker 2: yes to Governor Mike Brown.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's really the that's the red flag that

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Speaker 1: I see from Braun's perspective in this poll because all

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Speaker 1: of these numbers, I mean, it's not an election year,

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Speaker 1: so people aren't as dialed into things as they normally

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Speaker 1: would be in a big election year. We just came

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Speaker 1: off the governor's election. How well is he doing compared

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Speaker 1: to Donald Trump? Because you keep in mind when we

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Speaker 1: had the election, Donald Trump got more votes for president

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Speaker 1: than Mike Braun got for governor, which means Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: overperformed Braun. And now that looks like according to this poll,

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Speaker 1: that gap is widening even more, which does not look

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Speaker 1: good for Braun, not at all.

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Speaker 2: Why is the former governor, Eric Holcombe pulling higher than

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Speaker 2: the current governor.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say that that just had You usually

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Speaker 1: see that, especially with presidents, as they leave office, their

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Speaker 1: polling numbers tend to go up because.

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Speaker 2: Kind of a nostalgia thing.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, people have nostalgia. They want it's just human nature.

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Speaker 1: We want to the good things and kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: not remember the bad things as much. But that's very

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Speaker 1: common with presidential polling. When a president leaves office, give

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Speaker 1: it a couple of years, their poll numbers always go up.

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Speaker 2: So not doing so well according to these polls the

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Speaker 2: Secretary of State also the lieutenant governor. But the one

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Speaker 2: that really surprised me is that Senator Todd Young has

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Speaker 2: a forty six percent favorability rating. This is among Republicans,

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Speaker 2: higher than Senator Jim Banks, which is at thirty seven percent. Now,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you may say that I'm wrong, but to me,

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Speaker 2: there's not a lot of daylight between Jim Banks and

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump. And Todd Young has said. I mean, he

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Speaker 2: told Rob at the Stax Pancake House he was going

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Speaker 2: to continue to keep spending. He wasn't stopping, and he

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Speaker 2: continues to be one of the highest spenders in conquers,

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Speaker 2: So why is he getting such high marks?

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Speaker 1: A couple of things here, So I think we got

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Speaker 1: to remember there's always going to be a certain percentage

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Speaker 1: of these people that don't know who the politician is

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Speaker 1: that you're talking about. That's why Diego's numbers are so low.

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Speaker 1: So Todd Jim Banks probably his numbers are a little

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Speaker 1: bit low because he's a first term senator. He was

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Speaker 1: a US House Rep before that, so people that lived

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Speaker 1: in his district might know him. But if you live

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Speaker 1: in another part of the state, he's not your House Rep,

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Speaker 1: so you probably don't know him. Todd Young's been in

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Speaker 1: office for a decade now and so he's got He's

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Speaker 1: the Marine. I've heard that before, so he's got a

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Speaker 1: lot of name recognition. I think that's probably what's bolstering

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Speaker 1: Todd Young's approval ratings in this bowl. Despite the fact

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Speaker 1: that he told Rob Kendall at the Tax Pancay House

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Speaker 1: that he was proud of all that spending. It was

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Speaker 1: going to keep spending.

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Speaker 2: It