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Speaker 1: Line from ball Hartby and The Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: It's terrorism. Old Dominion University, Temple Israel, and West Bloomfield, Michigan.

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Speaker 3: The killing of two Americans.

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Speaker 2: At a bar in Austin, Texas, just a little over

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Speaker 2: a week ago, it's terrorism.

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Speaker 3: You can call what.

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Speaker 2: Happened at the synagogue anti senatism, you'll be correct, but

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Speaker 2: it is still terrorism. And if we don't understand that

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Speaker 2: we have people in the United States whom we have

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Speaker 2: allowed in the United States, or whom are Americans themselves

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Speaker 2: who are engaged in this, supportive of this because they

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Speaker 2: could support it by outside entities and radicals within our

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Speaker 2: own country, well, how in the world are we going

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Speaker 2: to possibly stop this? And so we're all clear with

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Speaker 2: each other. The plan has to be to stop this,

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Speaker 2: not live with it. Stop it. Tony Katz, That is me.

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Speaker 2: The show is Tony Katz today. Let's start where we start,

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Speaker 2: which is Old Dominion, the University, Old Dominion University. We're

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Speaker 2: an isis a supporting shooter shouting Alu Akbar killed an

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Speaker 2: ROTC instructor. He was known for having spent time in

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Speaker 2: jail for connecting with isl so we think of ISIS

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Speaker 2: isel was there was this call it an offshoot called

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Speaker 2: a name change, the Islam State of Iraq and the Levante.

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Speaker 2: A terrorist organization is the terrorist organization? Is the terrorist organization?

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Speaker 2: Somehow one is better than the other. Not in my world.

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Speaker 2: He spent time in jail, but was released early from

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Speaker 2: jail twenty twenty four. Was able to get a firearm,

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Speaker 2: asked if this is where the ROTC was meeting when

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Speaker 2: a class was going on, screaming a luac bar and

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Speaker 2: open fire. This guy was a naturalized citizen originally from

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Speaker 2: Sierra Leone. That's who he was. He spent eleven years

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Speaker 2: in prison. Actually I take that back. He was sentenced

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Speaker 2: to eleven years in prison for offering materials support to

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Speaker 2: the entire time. The man that he killed a retired

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Speaker 2: military officer known, respected from every report, beloved. This scumbag

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Speaker 2: terrorist was stopped because an ROTC you call him recruit cadet,

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Speaker 2: had a knife. It's the only way this guy was stopped.

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Speaker 2: Somebody was there with a weapon able to be proactive

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Speaker 2: in the defense of others. In Michigan, this forty one

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Speaker 2: year old eleven is American took his car truck I

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Speaker 2: should say, loaded with explosives and drove through the door

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Speaker 2: of a synagogue called Temple Israel.

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Speaker 3: Temple Israel.

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Speaker 2: Is the largest reform synagogue in the country. Judaism has

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Speaker 2: explain it. I'm a conservative Jew. I belong to a

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Speaker 2: conservative synagogue. Reform synagogues I have found to be mostly

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Speaker 2: liberal synagogues. Orthodox synagogues are synagogues that are most following rules, regulations, etc.

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Speaker 2: This is the largest Reformed synagogue in the country, and

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Speaker 2: this guy drove through the front door explosives and weapons

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Speaker 2: in the truck. It should be understood that services weren't

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Speaker 3: And there's one hundred and forty students inside.

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Speaker 2: They had at this reform synagogue, which I think I

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Speaker 2: shocked a lot of people because it certainly shocked me.

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Speaker 2: By the way, joyously they had a security team. When

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Speaker 2: both situations. If it wasn't for people armed in one

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Speaker 2: We would be discussing something very, very different. So I'll

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Speaker 2: start where I start in all of this. Buy guns

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Speaker 2: by AMMO, get trained. Do not show up to your

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Speaker 2: place of worship without being armed. And any parishioner, any

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Speaker 2: faith leader, I should state, who says you can't be

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Speaker 2: armed here, fire them. They want you to die. Now,

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Speaker 2: you might say to me, Tony, that's a little bit strong.

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Speaker 2: I'll say to you, Kit, and I haven't even started.

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Speaker 2: Any faith leader that says you can't be armed here

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Speaker 2: they love the Lord. They've got to go, and if

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Speaker 3: I cannot fully explain that there is.

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Speaker 2: A synagogue out there that understood that it is their

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Speaker 2: Every synagogue should take note. The connection between these terrorists

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Speaker 2: that they're all Muslims. Well, when you're wearing a hoodie

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Speaker 2: that says property of Hollah, you're saying something. I cannot

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Speaker 2: submit or die anybody who doesn't agree with them. And

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Speaker 2: most importantly, the place of true connection that they all

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Speaker 2: wanted to do away with, degrade and destroy Western civilization,

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Speaker 2: the American way of life. They all wanted to terrorize Americans,

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Speaker 2: admit the connections. I've got no time for those little children. Well, Tony,

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Speaker 2: they're just doing this because, in the case of the

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Speaker 2: guy who attacked the synagogue, he had family in Lebanon,

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Speaker 2: and Israel attacked his family, and well, Tony, the synagogue's

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Speaker 2: name is Temple Israel, and well to explain the AD's part,

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Speaker 2: I have to bring in the New York Times, the

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Speaker 2: most disgusting newspaper in America, that wrote Temple Israel was

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Speaker 2: founded in nineteen forty one, dedicated to the formation of

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Speaker 2: a Jewish state. Oh so they deserved it. That's the

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Speaker 2: argument of the New York Times. You absolute despicable scumbags.

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Speaker 2: They deserved it is the argument that these people are making,

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Speaker 2: and it's being made by the way on your TV screens.

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Speaker 2: It's being made by the most progressive and woke right

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Speaker 2: fools out there. Suspect in Michigan synagogue attack, lost family

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Speaker 2: in Israeli strike on Lebanon, What does that have to

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Speaker 2: have to do with attacking Jews? We're going to defend it.

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Speaker 2: He was somehow confused. Well, it's all right, Well it's

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Speaker 2: Israel's fault. Screw off, you low life scumbags. And I

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Speaker 2: be nice. Remember, my people, my people are some of

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Speaker 2: the dumbest people around. No one talks about it, no

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Speaker 2: one engages it. It is factual. These lefties, leftist Jews,

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Speaker 2: The New York Times things Temple, Israel and West Bloomfields

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Speaker 2: the victims of a terrorist that's deserved it. They think

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Speaker 2: Never the truth. Same is true for any leftist. The

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Speaker 2: same is true for every American. It is us versus them.

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Speaker 2: You're on the woke right, you're on the political left.

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Speaker 2: You don't like my politics. I don't give a damn.

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Speaker 3: About any of it.

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Speaker 2: It is us or it is them. Choose one, Choose one.

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Speaker 2: I've got absolute tools making comments that this is all

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Speaker 2: the fault of Israel.

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Speaker 3: Blank you blank this, blank that America.

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Speaker 2: First, Dear God, do you not understand what's happening. You

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Speaker 2: want to argue stuff that doesn't matter to the terrorist.

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Speaker 2: The terrorist wants you done too. They want you to

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Speaker 2: fall too. They will not stop. If Israel didn't exist,

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Speaker 2: they still wouldn't stop. What's your argument. Your argument is

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Speaker 3: They've been at war with us since they saw us.

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Speaker 2: If you believe in the worldwide Caliphate, you are at

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Speaker 2: Do you know how ignorantly stupid you are here? Allow me,

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Speaker 2: you are in a nutshell. You are Bernie Sanders level

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Speaker 4: I speak for myself, not for you. I've that a

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Speaker 4: That I think Rubo probably had it right, that it

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Speaker 4: nya who finally got his wish. I mean, Netah has

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Speaker 2: What is if that is true?

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Speaker 4: What is Israel's goal? What do they want by not

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Speaker 2: Not only what do they want? They want to not

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Speaker 2: But Israel dragged American to this war? Is too stupid

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Speaker 2: I didn't mean to Gosh. Embarrassing for you, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: We're here three acts of terrorism, one against the synagogue,

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Speaker 2: This is about us. You want America first, you get

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Speaker 3: Of your face.

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Speaker 2: It's us or it's them. It's us or it's them.

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Speaker 2: Masturbating to Tucker Carlson is not a political philosophy. It's

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Speaker 2: us or it's them. How many more things do you

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Speaker 2: more ways did you need to be attacked over the

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Speaker 2: last forty seven years by the Iranian regime? How much

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Speaker 2: more do you need to witness? And at some moment,

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Speaker 2: those of us who are thinking have to look at

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Speaker 2: understand that we're in it because they want it, you're

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to get my people, my people to understand

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Speaker 2: of faith. We're the ones under attack. They're here and

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Speaker 2: all the three of these terrorist attacks. We don't understand

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Speaker 2: isn't on the line. Just so we know who you are,

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Speaker 2: we can go about making sure we never vote for

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Speaker 2: anybody who enables them, and we only put ourselves in

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Speaker 2: a position of policy to defeat them. I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 3: Saying we obliterated it. Did we end it?

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Speaker 3: That's what makes it extraordinary.

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Speaker 2: People die in war, and that's why you got to

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Speaker 3: These people's lives are not in vain.

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Speaker 2: It shouldn't be thought of that way. But the loss

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today. Good to be here, Good

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Speaker 2: to be with you. Find everything over at Tony Katz

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Speaker 3: I'm not clear what it is, he continued.

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Speaker 2: We're taking the opposite approach here, and we're saying we've

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Speaker 2: had this conversation regarding the economy. Don't tell me tariffs

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Speaker 3: It's about it. It's a messaging issue.

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Speaker 2: We go back to the one Big Beautiful bill, the

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Speaker 3: Bill in July. It's got this, and it's got that.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna expand the salts caps, and we're gonna no

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Speaker 3: The worst message bill in the history of America.

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Speaker 2: All these things that Republicans are depending on in order

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Speaker 3: There was no messaging then, there's no messaging today.

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Speaker 2: Why not? Why is there no messaging? So I think

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Speaker 2: the issue here is that you didn't You didn't sell

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Speaker 2: what happens to these deranged scumbags today.

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Speaker 3: The problem with that.

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Speaker 2: The name calling doesn't move me. The action moves me.

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Speaker 3: Through the straight offoor moves.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but what are we doing right now to take

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Speaker 5: All right, here, sugar, you have said that the US

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Speaker 6: Supriority over Iran.

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Speaker 2: Why how did you not plan for this?

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Speaker 7: Why aren't we recognize it? Because ultimately we want to

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Speaker 7: On a full assessment of what we're up against, what

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Speaker 2: Now. The one thing I like about that is that

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Speaker 3: How do you you have to break the IRGCT out.

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Speaker 2: The protester And certainly an acceptable answer is, well, you

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Speaker 3: You have to break the regime, and then you can.

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Speaker 2: Discuss the very idea of how you the help these people.

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Speaker 2: And remember, I want to help these people, but I

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Speaker 3: For me, it is it is.

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Speaker 2: that goes out there and says we're going to free

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Speaker 2: That is not a way to do things. And when

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Speaker 2: so when you say, wait to see what we do,

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Speaker 2: these derange comebacks, no no no, no, no no no no.

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Speaker 2: And the regime as for by the way, the regime

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Speaker 2: itself and people who want to claim, you know, the

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Speaker 2: regime hasn't been heard, it hasn't been affected. It's embarrassing.

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Speaker 2: Anybody know where the iotola is, the new iatola, the

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Speaker 2: sun right?

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Speaker 3: Where is he?

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Speaker 2: There are statements, No, no, no, they're they're written statements that

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Speaker 2: people are are are, you know, taking an oath of

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Speaker 2: loyalty to a cardboard cutout. Sarah, who does all our

446
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Speaker 2: social media work, all our digital work, refers to them

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Speaker 2: as iotola auto pen. We're getting these statements. We don't

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Speaker 2: know where the guy is.

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Speaker 3: Who knows where.

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Speaker 2: The guy is? Yes, damage has been done and it's good,

451
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Speaker 2: but don't get into the glib mister president.

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Speaker 3: I said this the other day about your speech there.

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Speaker 2: In Ohio or a Kentucky's taking a little excursion to around.

454
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Speaker 2: Not when American troops die, not when American troops are

455
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Speaker 2: putting their lives on the line. Don't ever be glibbed,

456
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: be direct, be focused, talk about the mission, and then

457
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Speaker 2: let's talk about winning.

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Speaker 3: Let's win, let's go home. That's the plan.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Katz today, and

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Speaker 2: this is.

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Speaker 9: A place that I have a very personal connection to.

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Speaker 9: I feel I've spent a lot of my time growing

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Speaker 9: up in and out of this temple, and I feel

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Speaker 9: just an immense amount of pain, as does the rest

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Speaker 9: of the community, that incidents like this even happen. And

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Speaker 9: I think it's just important to be clear. As the

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Speaker 9: governor said that whether anti Semitism is coming from the

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Speaker 9: left or the right, whether it's coming from some group

469
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Speaker 9: that you like or don't like, you have a responsibility

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Speaker 9: to call it out.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: Senator Alyssa.

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Speaker 2: Slotkin, would you please now call out Ilhano Mar and

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Speaker 2: Rashida Talib. I'll wait, Senator, will you please call out

475
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Speaker 2: Ilhan O Maar and Rashida Talib. Now, please do not

476
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Speaker 2: sit there on a television screen as you are the

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Speaker 2: Center from Michigan and talk about the horror that happened

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Speaker 2: in this synagogue, praising the security team. It's good to

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Speaker 2: know that you're willing to praise people who have a gun,

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Speaker 2: who could protect and defend people from somebody else who

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Speaker 2: has a gun or a car filled with explosives. But

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Speaker 2: if we should call out anti semitism from the right

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Speaker 2: and the left, will you please call out Ilhan O

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Speaker 2: mar and Rashida Talib now, please Tony Katz, Tony kats today.

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Speaker 3: And while we're at it, and I know that I'll

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Speaker 3: take heat for this.

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Speaker 2: If you want to focus on what happened in Michigan

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Speaker 2: is anti semitism, I don't think I can can stop you.

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Speaker 2: The problem is that's only a part of the puzzle.

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Speaker 2: I'll go back to where I started in case anybody

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Speaker 2: missed it. I've got other things that I've got to

492
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Speaker 2: get to on the show, including the insanity out of Arizona.

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Speaker 2: We're fighting a war with the terrorists, and I have

494
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Speaker 2: got leftists in America who still want to fight the

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Speaker 2: war that men can be women.

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Speaker 3: Crazy. This was terrorism.

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Speaker 2: Address the terrorism, whether we are on the right or

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Speaker 2: the left, whether we are indeed conservative or liberal, Christian

499
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Speaker 2: or Jewish, gay or straight, regardless of the rest, we

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Speaker 2: are the ones under attack.

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Speaker 3: It was a reformed synagogue.

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Speaker 2: I will bet you dollars to donuts that the vast

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Speaker 2: majority of people who belong to that synagogue are liberals,

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Speaker 2: and they got attacked. We're in this together. It is

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Speaker 2: us or it is them. If you're gonna call it

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Speaker 2: anti Semitism, you call out Rashida's leave in Ilhan o Mar.

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Speaker 2: And when you've done that, and that's now in the past,

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Speaker 2: we still have to deal with the terrorism and the terrorists.

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Speaker 2: And the connection of all three of these terrorists, whether

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Speaker 2: it be the synagogue, the Old Dominion attack, or what

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Speaker 2: happened in Austin, is that they are all connected.

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Speaker 3: To this Islamic ideology.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna pretend that isn't real, that's somehow bigoted, it

514
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Speaker 2: is factual. We have to be honest about it, and

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Speaker 2: then we have to ask ourselves what we're.

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Speaker 3: Going to do with it?

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Speaker 2: What are we going to do about it? Keep it here,

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 1: Line from Vaal Hartbyer and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. Let's talk about it.

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Speaker 2: An ugly exchange, and this took place in Arizona. Tony Kats,

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz today. Good to be here, Good to be

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Speaker 2: with you. We will get more into the conversation of terrorism,

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Speaker 2: which is what we saw at Old Dominion University. It's

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Speaker 2: what we saw at Temple Israel in West Bloomfields, Michigan.

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Speaker 3: Is what we saw in Austin, Texas.

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Speaker 2: The connectivity of all these things are Islamists, and to

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Speaker 2: say otherwise is laughable and people will be offended.

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Speaker 3: And how dare you in islamaphobia?

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Speaker 2: The facts are the facts, and Islamaphobia isn't real. Can

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Speaker 2: I help you? Oh Am, I going to get emails,

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00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: send your emails, go ahead. These are the facts. These

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Speaker 2: are the connection points between all three things.

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Speaker 3: All three of them.

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Speaker 2: Whether you're going after people in a crowded bar, whether

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Speaker 2: you're going after members of ROTC really trying to attack

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Speaker 2: the military, whether you're going after Jews. They have their

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Speaker 2: individual stories and then they have a connected story, and

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Speaker 2: that connect story is terrorism and the desire to destroy

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Speaker 2: Western civilization. And we have to ask ourselves whether we're

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Speaker 2: going to just sit back and take it, or whether

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Speaker 2: we're going to fight like mothers, and I think we

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Speaker 2: need to fight.

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Speaker 3: I think we need to fight hard.

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Speaker 2: And while we are engaged in this conversation, the thing

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Speaker 2: we should be engaged in. There are still progressives out

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Speaker 2: there who think that men can be women. I thought

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Speaker 2: we put this to bed. You've got the American Society

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Speaker 2: of Plastic Surgeons saying, you know what, we don't really

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Speaker 2: recommend gender firming care, which is a mutilation of children.

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Speaker 2: By the way, it's just a term they use. It's

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Speaker 2: a mutilation of children. Anytime you hear gender firming care,

553
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Speaker 2: think to yourself, Oh, they want to mutilate children. Oh,

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Speaker 2: we don't recommend this until after age nineteen. And then

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Speaker 2: you see another medical organization say, oh, yeah, that's right,

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Speaker 2: that's right. Not until the age of nineteen, because they're

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Speaker 2: getting soon and they're losing.

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Speaker 3: They're getting sued for the abuse.

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Speaker 2: Of children, because they abuse children. End of list. So

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Speaker 2: here in Arizona is this state senator by the name

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Speaker 2: of Catherine Miranda. And Catherine Miranda is there on a

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Speaker 2: dais and in front of her is an athlete, a

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Speaker 2: woman by the name of Kayleie Ray, former NCAA volleyball

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Speaker 2: player and an activist and This is a conversation about

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Speaker 2: protecting women's sports, which means no men in women's sports,

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Speaker 2: because women's sports are for women and there's a difference

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Speaker 2: between men and women, and no man will ever become

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Speaker 2: a woman all the rest.

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Speaker 3: And as we saw in front as the conversation.

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Speaker 2: Went in front of the Supreme Court, there's a really

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Speaker 2: interesting conversation to have here regard darting Title nine because

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Speaker 2: Title nine is all about women's sports and dollars women's sports,

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Speaker 2: and engagement of women's sports, the creation of women's sports. Well,

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Speaker 2: men could be women. There are no women's sports, so

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Speaker 2: I don't have to make any attention to title line

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Speaker 2: at all, scholarship or anything else. They did it much

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Speaker 2: better than I just did it. There. I'm giving you

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Speaker 2: the thirty thousand foot overview as to as to how

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Speaker 2: it got an approach there in front of scotis this

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Speaker 2: Democrat Catherine Miranda, State Senator. Her argument is, you know what,

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Speaker 2: I was a student athlete and maybe you're just not

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Speaker 2: You not have the right mindset because I would have

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Speaker 2: taken on a man.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I have my sports head on now. It's

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Speaker 10: all about a sports mentality, growing up in sports, being

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Speaker 10: a tomboy. I mean, you look pretty healthy. I've played

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Speaker 10: against girls that look like you. You look very much

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Speaker 10: in shape and strong. But it's a sports mentality when

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Speaker 10: you're growing up and how much competition that you'll take on.

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Speaker 10: So it's not just a silver bullet for one community

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Speaker 10: of sports players. It's the individual person on how competitive

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Speaker 10: you want to be. So you grew up one way,

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Speaker 10: I grew up a different way. I would have taken

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Speaker 10: on a man in a heartbeat. I played in I

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Speaker 10: was the only girl sometimes in men's sports, but to

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Speaker 10: have a man on my team, I would have welcomed it.

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Speaker 10: But this is just my opinion. So it just depends

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Speaker 10: on the sports mentality of that individual. And that's why

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Speaker 10: this bill is bad, because you're just putting a whole

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Speaker 10: community of women's sports in one category when women like me,

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Speaker 10: we have a different opinion. So how competitive do you

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Speaker 10: think you really are?

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Speaker 3: Holy cow?

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Speaker 2: The issue is not men in women's sports. Shoe is

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Speaker 2: not feeding into mental illness, but rather, hey lady, why

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Speaker 2: are you so weak? There's a there's a real thing

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Speaker 2: to women hating women, isn't there?

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Speaker 3: There is? There's a real thing to women hating other women.

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Speaker 2: One of the great lines that I ever heard was,

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Speaker 2: you know, if you see a man and a woman

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Speaker 2: going out, let's say, to dinner. The woman is dressed

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Speaker 2: to the nines, incredible. The guy is wearing the same

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Speaker 2: polo shirt he wears all the time in a pair

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Speaker 2: of slax and it's like, look at how dressed up

615
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Speaker 2: and look at how basic. And the response is always,

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Speaker 2: women don't get dressed up for men. They get dressed

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Speaker 2: up for other women. Now I do not know if

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Speaker 2: that is true. My wife tends to be a believer

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Speaker 2: in that. I am only thankful that my wife is

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Speaker 2: not a player in that.

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Speaker 3: My wife is like, give me a little bit of

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Speaker 3: rock and roll wherever I.

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Speaker 2: Am and I'm good, and I'm like, damn, girl, what

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Speaker 2: are we even doing here? Let's go home. That is

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00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: always the conversation. And then we go home. I don't

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00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 2: mean to brag. I'm just that good. But the argument

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Speaker 2: of who they engage, who they're trying to impress, always

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Speaker 2: was as a fascinating conversation, and usually I get some

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Speaker 2: response that is some version of well, yeah, that's pretty true.

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Speaker 2: Now people might argue it a little bit. Some people

631
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Speaker 2: could be you know, think I'm off base on that

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Speaker 2: or think that the concept is off base, and that's fine.

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Speaker 2: But the women going after other women thing, you see,

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Speaker 2: your problem is you're just not a strong woman. You're

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Speaker 2: weak because you won't compete against a man. Why should

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Speaker 2: we listen to you? Why can't we compete against men?

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Speaker 2: Now I can answer that question that you're not competing

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Speaker 2: against men, are you. You're saying that they're women. That's

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00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: the problem. If a woman and a man compete, a

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Speaker 2: woman and a man compete, you're saying men can make

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Speaker 2: a claim. And that's where you're all diseased. But check

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Speaker 2: out the response here that comes from Kaylee Ray. This

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Speaker 2: is very very well done, very well put together, Madame

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Speaker 2: Cherry Senator.

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Speaker 11: As elite level athletes, I would say, we're very competitive,

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Speaker 11: which is why this bill designates three categories male, female,

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Speaker 11: and coed. The idea is that everyone can participate in sport.

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Speaker 11: If you want to compete against your man, absolutely, it's like,

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Speaker 11: let's do that in the co ed section. That's the

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Speaker 11: clarity and distinction is really important because when men are

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Speaker 11: allowed access into women's sports and spaces, it's not women's

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Speaker 11: sports and spaces anymore. And as the passage of Title

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Speaker 11: nine was so important. There is a need, a necessity

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Speaker 11: to protect women's spaces.

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Speaker 2: That answer is so good, so complete, so full, I

656
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:07,959
Speaker 2: will Sarah, you need to grab it and post it.

657
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 2: It's so so perfect, it is so thought out. You

658
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: ever notice when when you're talking to progressives and they

659
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: they are talking about their feelings, right, it's always about

660
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Speaker 2: their feelings. But then when their feelings are confronted with

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Speaker 2: with facts, logic, reason, any level of basic questioning, you

662
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 2: see them collapse. The problem is when you are engaged

663
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Speaker 2: with talked from your feelings, you never once consider that

664
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Speaker 2: there is something else. Now, the woke crowd, the DEI crowd,

665
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Speaker 2: the leftist crowd would say this differently.

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Speaker 3: You see, it's about perspective. You don't understand.

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Speaker 2: You don't understand the importance of diversity and how these

668
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Speaker 2: things connect. Am I is correct, you don't understand. Oh no,

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Speaker 2: not you them. If we're going to engage a conversation

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Speaker 2: about how things are viewed, because you feel some way

671
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Speaker 2: emotionally doesn't make it factual. Women having a space for

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Speaker 2: women is exactly the conversation.

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Speaker 3: In sports, It's for women. That's why we have women's sports.

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Speaker 2: And what these progressive women who seem to hate other

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Speaker 2: women are saying is how dare you women?

676
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Speaker 3: Wanting a spot for women is bigotry.

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Speaker 2: But not allowing women into the C suite is also bigotry.

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Speaker 3: Do the math figure it out.

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Speaker 2: Anything they decide is bigotry is bigotry because of their

680
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 2: emotional state, and when confronted with the facts, there's nothing

681
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Speaker 2: more than collapse.

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Speaker 11: It's not to say that no people are banned from sports.

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Speaker 11: That's not the situation at all. If that's the level

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Speaker 11: of competition, you on top of yourself, amazing and go

685
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Speaker 11: try it in the co ed section. But again, this

686
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Speaker 11: is what this is about, protecting the women's category in

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Speaker 11: women's sports.

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Speaker 2: Correct, accurate, smart, together, completely understandable.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not understandable. Is that after.

690
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Speaker 2: Everything we have been through, everything we have seen, the

691
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 2: left is still trying to make an argument that somehow

692
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Speaker 2: this is okay. And you say to me, Tony, we're

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Speaker 2: a nation at war. Why are we talking about this? Because,

694
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Speaker 2: my friend, we're a nation at war. We're a nation

695
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 2: at war with itself. We're a nation at war with

696
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Speaker 2: logic and reason and rationality and normalcy. You bet your

697
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: ass were at war, kitten, that's the problem. And all

698
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 2: I'm trying to do is give people the armaments of

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Speaker 2: the mind to be able to fight it.

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Speaker 3: And the enemy doesn't quit.

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Speaker 2: You know. It's the Michael Walsh line, the author, the screenwriter,

702
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: and I always get it wrong, but I'm always I'm

703
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: always in the ballpark. The Democratic Party, which he's the

704
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 2: first person I ever heard say the Democrats are a

705
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 2: criminal organization masquerading as a political party. It's a good line.

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00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: The political left. They never stopped, They never rest, they

707
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: never quit never. They are always constantly on the move

708
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: to improve your life, to warp reality, and they're always

709
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: onto some new thing that in lockstep they all agree with.

710
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 2: They are so in agreement about out this insanity. And

711
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 2: you know it because when someone says, well, well, we

712
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: shouldn't be buying into mental illness and feeding into mental

713
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: illness of children, that's madness. Those people are immediately vilified.

714
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 2: They are immediately pushed aside, they're told that they're hateful,

715
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Speaker 2: and they are attacked until they submit.

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Speaker 3: Didn't they do this on Israel?

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Speaker 2: To John Fetterman Center Fetterman, he won't submit, though he's

718
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 2: gonna be a one term guy. Although there really is

719
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Speaker 2: an interesting conversation, and I would follow Selena Zito her

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00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: lead on this that Western Pennsylvania they have no interest

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Speaker 2: in what those Philadelphia freaks are doing. They don't care

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Speaker 2: Central Pennsylvania, Western Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 3: They're not down for that.

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Speaker 2: They'll be totally fine with Fetterman, and there is It

725
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Speaker 2: will be very interesting to see if when the time comes,

726
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 2: if he can get to reelect. Very interesting, but that

727
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 2: the progressives are still pushing this man.

728
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Speaker 3: This is the war.

729
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: We have a war from without and we have a

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Speaker 2: war from within, not deniable, and we have to be

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Speaker 2: able to fight on both fronts at all times. And

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Speaker 2: that's why I brought it up. I'm Tony Katz. This

733
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Speaker 2: is Tony Katz Today. Find everything I do over at

734
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Speaker 2: Tony Katz dot com. So you've got blasts that.

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Speaker 3: Are taking place around Tehran.

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Speaker 2: Protesters were there Friday, actually not protesters. State organized rally

737
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Speaker 2: to support the Palestinians and call for Israel's demise. Israel said, hey,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna target that area. It's gonna happen. Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 3: We are two weeks into this war. Let's see what

741
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Speaker 3: the next two weeks bring.

742
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 2: I really am, like you, truly discussed by the weakness

743
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: of the political left and of the woke right, statements

744
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 2: like this from Senator Chris Murphy.

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Speaker 8: This is the most incompetent, in coherent war America has

746
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 8: fought in the last one hundred years. And that's saying

747
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Speaker 8: a lot. This administration has no idea what they are doing.

748
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 8: There's no viable or plan. They change their goals and

749
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 8: their aims every single day. I have great sympathy for

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Speaker 8: our soldiers and our military leaders. They are being given

751
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Speaker 8: directions by a senile old man who is.

752
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Speaker 2: Losing his mind. How is that not trying to undercut

753
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Speaker 2: the commander in chief and to demoralize the American troops.

754
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Speaker 2: That's a senator, Senator Beta mal cuckboy over here that

755
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 2: I'm sorry he's allowed to call Trump senile and he

756
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 2: never said a word about Joe Biden and I have

757
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 2: to somehow sit quiet and be prim and proper. Not

758
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 2: in the mood. Guys. You're trying to demoralize the troops

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00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: while they're engaged in a war action. I'll call it

760
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 2: a war action. Even if the administration doesn't this is smart.

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00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 2: It's disgusting. He's reprehensible, senile. Stop it. It's just ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: They don't care what they say, they don't care how

763
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 2: they lie, and they don't care who they hurt. It's

764
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 2: gross and it's not just him, Bernie Sanders doing the

765
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 2: job that maybe Tucker was too tired to do today.

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Speaker 2: I think so, I.

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Speaker 4: Speak for myself, not for you. I've got a lot

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Speaker 4: of US Midiast policy is dictated by Israel that I

769
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Speaker 4: think Rubio probably had it right that it was Israel

770
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Speaker 4: who decided they wanted to go to war, and after

771
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 4: forty years of wanting to see this, net nyav who

772
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Speaker 4: finally got his wish. I mean, Netah has wanted this

773
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Speaker 4: for forty years. Netanya is the guy that told us,

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Speaker 4: urged the United States to get involved in Iraq, gonna

775
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Speaker 4: be clean and easy war.

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Speaker 2: What is if that is true?

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Speaker 3: What is Israel's goal?

778
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Speaker 4: What what do they want by not only decimating the

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Speaker 4: leadership in Iran, not only attacking.

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Speaker 2: The United States, it's just dragged into it. Israel dictated,

781
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 2: Israel controls the United States. Bernie Sanders, Tucker Carlson together

782
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 2: again for the very first time. It's embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: It is so unbelievably weak.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not giving it any credence or any credibility.

785
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: Has Israel recognized the threat of Iran for years? Absolutely?

786
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Speaker 9: Why?

787
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Speaker 2: Because they were the.

788
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Speaker 3: Ones dealing with the threat.

789
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Speaker 2: But the point is we were dealing with the threat,

790
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: we were just not willing to recognize it.

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Speaker 3: I've got my list up. Still, here you go.

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Speaker 2: This is October twenty fifteen, a drive by shooting in

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Speaker 2: the West Bank, Camasaras killed an American citizen and his

794
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Speaker 2: wife in a drive by shooting.

795
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Speaker 3: Here is December of twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Rocket attack in Iraq fired by Kataib Hesbola, an Iranian

797
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Speaker 2: back militia, killed an American security contractor and wounded several

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Speaker 2: US service members. This is what this is. That's the hit,

799
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Speaker 2: by the way, that then led to the response that

800
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 2: killed Cossum Solomoni. How dare you strike Solomoni? Americans should

801
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: just get killed. It's surreal, it's embarrassing. And now we

802
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 2: have acts of terrorism in the United States. What happened

803
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 2: in Austin, Texas, What happened at Old Dominion University, what

804
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 2: happened at Temple Israel in West Bloomfield, Michigan.

805
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 3: All acts of terrorism.

806
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Speaker 2: And yes I've discussed the anti Semitism of the synagogue

807
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 2: and what happened with Old Dominion. All these things have connectivity.

808
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 2: It is all terrorism, all by people who believe in

809
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,919
Speaker 2: the death to America chant all of them who would

810
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Speaker 2: look at Bernie Sanders and Tucker Carlson and say those

811
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 2: guys are on our side. All of them terrorists that

812
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 2: want to do away with Western civilization, just.

813
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Speaker 3: Like the Iranian regime.

814
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Speaker 2: And we have to ask ourselves, how do we want

815
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 2: to engage this fight, because no part of this can

816
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 2: be well. We'll try and talk to them. We're past

817
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 2: the point of niceties, right, Please tell tell me we're

818
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 2: past the point of niceties. That dog won't hunt. They

819
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:11,760
Speaker 2: are killing us proactively, ramming cars into schools and walking

820
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Speaker 2: into classrooms.

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Speaker 3: I think we have to understand that we're in the

822
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Speaker 3: fight and we have to win.

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Speaker 2: It because if we don't, bad things happen. I'm Tony Katz.

824
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Speaker 2: This is Tony Kats Today. Find everything at tonykats dot com.

825
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Speaker 2: Three more things Tony Kats Tony Katz Today, Good to

826
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Speaker 2: be with you. Things that should be making the front

827
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Speaker 2: pages or at least should be. You should be made

828
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Speaker 2: aware of that. I don't know if the press is

829
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 2: doing a good enough job of making you aware of

830
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Speaker 2: the first one being that New York really wants to

831
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Speaker 2: damage itself. They hate themselves, they know they hate themselves.

832
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 2: They are desperate to hurt themselves. That harm themselves in

833
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Speaker 2: every single way possible. And this is the story of

834
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Speaker 2: New York City. Mom Donnie's New York City. Remember, the

835
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 2: progressive never ends, right. There's never a moment where they say, Okay,

836
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to do something. It's always about what

837
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 2: you have to do. It's always about how you have

838
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 2: to pay more, you have to do with less. They

839
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 2: never do, you always have to New York City's thirty

840
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 2: dollars minimum wage proposal rattle small businesses. Well, no crap,

841
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 2: there's a proposal to raise the minimum wage in New

842
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 2: York City, the thirty dollars an hour.

843
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Speaker 3: And so the people are saying.

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Speaker 2: Hooray, who the hell's gonna pay this? They don't know

845
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Speaker 2: that the business can't afford to pay thirty dollars an hour.

846
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Speaker 3: They don't know that if it's thirty.

847
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 2: Dollars an hour for the employee and you've got rising

848
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Speaker 2: food costs and rising rents. Eventually you're charging an amount

849
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Speaker 2: for a burger that nobody will pay.

850
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Speaker 3: A cup of coffee is now twelve dollars.

851
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Speaker 2: And eighty two cents. No one's buying. The current minimum wage,

852
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 2: by the way, hourly is seventeen dollars an hour. So

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00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 2: if the measure passes, you've got thirty dollars by twenty

854
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Speaker 2: thirty and businesses that employ fewer than five hundred people

855
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 2: would hit thirty dollars by twenty thirty two. You're just

856
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 2: timing when all the businesses leave or the vast majority

857
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 2: leave because they can't afford it. The food cost, the

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00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 2: rental cost, the insurance costs. Now this how many buyers

859
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 2: are there for whatever it is they're selling. And what

860
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 2: this really comes from is a pure ignorance of how

861
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 2: the economy works. That the answer is, well, they'll pay

862
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 2: more of the minimum wage and they'll make a little

863
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 2: bit less, but that's fine. No business owner works like that.

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Speaker 2: If I have to make less, is it worth it

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Speaker 2: for me to be in business? Why am I here?

866
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 2: I think on the vast majority of these businesses should

867
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 2: be poached. I have made the claim I shouldn't say

868
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 2: the claim I have made, the overture, the gesture to

869
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 2: my governor that I should be the ambassador to New

870
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 2: York for business acquisition, and I should go to New

871
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: York and walk into business after business and say, hey,

872
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,959
Speaker 2: how you going see? I speak language. I can talk

873
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 2: to these people and say, hey, you should come to

874
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 2: the Midwest. It's so much better, better quality of life.

875
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 2: You can afford everything, Okay, Greg, Greg, Greg, Yeah, yeah yeah.

876
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 2: The pizza is not as good, the bagels aren't as good.

877
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,439
Speaker 2: When everybody moves over, it'll be better. But Tony, it's

878
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 2: the water. Water is the reason you're saying. You sound

879
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 2: like those schmucks in California were like, I gotta stay

880
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,919
Speaker 2: in southern California for the weather. They're taxing to death

881
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 2: and they're killing you quite literally. You're gonna stick around

882
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 2: for that. I didn't realize you were stupid. My mistake.

883
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go talk to your competitor and they're gonna

884
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 2: thrive and survive, and you're gonna be broke living with

885
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 2: your mother in law. Let's see how many people I

886
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 2: can bring over. Let's see how many people I could

887
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 2: grab and bring to my beloved Indiana or across the Midwest.

888
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 2: I should be not just the ambassador for the state

889
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 2: of Indiana, I should be the Midwest ambassador to New

890
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 2: York for business acquisition. Oh yeah, New York, Chicago, La whoop.

891
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 2: I could talk all those languages thirty dollars an hour.

892
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 2: These people don't understand how economics work. They are as

893
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 2: as governor, governor, mayor. Goodman of the former governor of

894
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 2: Las Vegas used to say, slow learners. They are slow learners.

895
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 2: They have no clue and they think they're good and decent.

896
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 2: But remember how their decency works. The progressive the Communists

897
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 2: in the case of Momdani, they don't pay it. They

898
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 2: just dictate that you pay it. Their decency comes out

899
00:59:55,600 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 2: of your pocket. If you want to know one of

900
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 2: the many, many, many, many, many, many many reasons I

901
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 2: oppose large governments and all this socialism talk. That's how

902
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 2: they think we have to be decent, so you business

903
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 2: owner have to pay. That's how we prove we're decent

904
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 2: by utilizing the barrel of a gun, which is what

905
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 2: government is. Government is force. By definition, government is force.

906
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 2: We use government force the barrel of a gun to

907
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 2: force you to pay them, and then you know what

908
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 2: we get in return their vote, where we can then

909
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 2: force you to do more things. That is the circle

910
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 2: of obscenity that I wholly oppose, and I think you

911
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 2: do too. Oh, I do not care if New York

912
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 2: ends up like the ending of Atlas Shrugged, and the

913
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 2: lights go out and no one knows what to do.

914
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,919
Speaker 2: Let them suffer. The question is why does anybody still stay?

915
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 2: I have asked this question of Newsmax and a Fox.

916
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 2: What are you doing? How are you still there? You

917
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 2: could be anywhere. You could be in Florida, you could

918
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 2: be right here in the Midwest, where you should be.

919
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 2: By the way, this idea that you gotta be in

920
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 2: New York or you gotta be in d C. You

921
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 2: don't have to be. Everybody's connecting via zoom or some

922
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 2: other streaming. What are you talking about? Go be in Miami.

923
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 2: I think you'd be better off in Indianapolis. Center of

924
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 2: the country. Gives you a little more connectivity, and of

925
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 2: course you don't have to worry about hurricanes coming through

926
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 2: every now and again. A tornado siren here. But in

927
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 2: the main you're fine. Oh, sure, you got winters. We

928
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 2: got winters. Anyway, but you can afford the house here. Oh,

929
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 2: everyone's gonna lead a.

930
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 3: Much better life here. And it's a great airport boom

931
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 3: right in.

932
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 2: Now the people in Tulsa are saying, Tony, you come

933
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 2: to Tulsa after all? Oklahoma, we beat your asses in

934
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 2: the NBA finals. I'm not over it, so you just

935
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 2: shut your filthy mouth tuls Oklahoma.

936
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 3: A lot of places they can go don't.

937
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 2: Have to be in New York. They're all just kidding themselves. Well,

938
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 2: we've got the investment here, and it cost a lot

939
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 2: to move. It costs a lot to stay, kitten, not

940
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 2: just the dollars. How about safety and security. We're a

941
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 2: better place to be. Let New York fall, and then

942
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 2: after it falls, we can pick up the pieces, let

943
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 2: them suffer, get out while the getting's good.

944
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 3: Then there's the floor shime story.

945
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 2: So I had heard this before that Trump has a

946
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 2: closet full of shoes. I kid you not.

947
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 3: Trump is very.

948
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 2: Into shoes, and he'll look at people and he'll be like,

949
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 2: you know what, your shoes stink? I have heard this

950
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 2: story firsthand. Your shoes, what are you wearing? What are

951
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 2: you wearing on your feet?

952
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 12: What is this?

953
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 2: What? Is what the shoes? What do you got there?

954
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 2: Come here, Come here, and they'll go into the closet

955
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 2: and he'll hand people a pair of shoes in their size.

956
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 2: And the shoe is a floor Shine. Now, floor shine

957
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 2: is old school, it's been around for one hundred and

958
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 2: thirty four years. Had to look that part up. I

959
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 2: have floor shm shoes.

960
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 3: If you look. If you ever look in my.

961
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 2: Studio behind me when I'm doing the video parts of it,

962
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 2: and you look behind me, there are four shoes that

963
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 2: are on a ledge, and I keep them there because

964
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 2: these shoes have holes in them.

965
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 3: In the soles.

966
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 2: These are the shoes. They were the dress shoes that

967
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 2: were Remember I wear suit everywhere all the time. And

968
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 2: when I was trying to get this career going, and

969
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 2: I was trying to get people to notice, and I

970
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 2: was speaking at events, speaking here, speaking there, doing all

971
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,959
Speaker 2: these doing all these things. These are the shoes I wore.

972
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 2: But I was broke and I couldn't afford new shoes.

973
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 2: And I have a pair in black, and I have

974
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 2: a pair in what some people would call Burgundy, it's

975
01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 2: actually called the oxplat. And I polish my own shoes

976
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 2: everything else, but I couldn't fix the soles. I didn't

977
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 2: have the money to fix the souls. So I would

978
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 2: get these these like covers, if you will, the sticky

979
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 2: things that like if you're trying to get traction, like

980
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 2: you know, on a new pair of dress shoes, you

981
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 2: go sliding on the carpet, so you can get these

982
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 2: things that add traction.

983
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 3: Or I'd have duct tape and you can actually see

984
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 3: the marks over the holes.

985
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 2: And I can remember being in Minnesota and I was

986
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 2: doing a speaking event with the Lake Great Herban Cane

987
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 2: and it was snowy and it was slushy and the

988
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 2: water was seeping through.

989
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 3: That's what it took.

990
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 2: I have them up as a reminder, that's what it

991
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 2: took to get here.

992
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 3: That's what it took to build a career.

993
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 2: I didn't have the luxury of, well, you just build

994
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 2: it on social media, and not everybody does. I actually

995
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 2: had to go out and do the work, and I

996
01:04:53,520 --> 01:05:01,919
Speaker 2: was broke, broke. It was a long him from there

997
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 2: to watch deals and Frank Mullers on the wrist. It's

998
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 2: been a long climb and I'm not done yet. Holy cow,

999
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 2: I'm not done yet. But I keep them there as

1000
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 2: a reminder that this is what it takes. The work

1001
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 2: has to get done. Nothing comes easy. But they're floor ships.

1002
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 3: And I mean, I.

1003
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 2: Abused these shoes, but they're still super comfortable, and I

1004
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 2: could probably get the soles fixed and use them today,

1005
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 2: but I have them there. Yeah, they're floor ships. And

1006
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 2: it's a great brand, terrific brand. So Trump sends out

1007
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 2: these shoes. Sometimes he's guessing sizes and the staff is

1008
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 2: placing the orders. He pays for them personally, and then

1009
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 2: I'll call you up set up the shoes, like, hey,

1010
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 2: did you get the shoes? So now you've got people

1011
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 2: febnet members who are.

1012
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 3: All wearing the shoes.

1013
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 2: They sell for about one hundred and forty five dollars, which,

1014
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 2: for the record, everything everything is so ridiculous. I try

1015
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 2: to find things on sale. Nordshumb Rack is usually where

1016
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 2: I go.

1017
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 3: That's that's the uh.

1018
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 2: Is it the discount store for northshumb That's where I go.

1019
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 2: I try and find shoes there. But still one hundred bucks. Still,

1020
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 2: it's crazy crazy. I think the story is hilarious that

1021
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 2: he's he's sending out these shoes and do people feel

1022
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 2: like they have to wear them? And the CEO of

1023
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 2: of what's called the Wayco Group.

1024
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 3: Thomas floor SHAWT Junior. It's like I had no idea.

1025
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 2: I had no idea the president was doing this the

1026
01:06:55,360 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 2: official shoe of Donald Trump. I'm sorry, that's awesome. Not

1027
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 2: awesome is item number three, but not surprising. The total

1028
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 2: disaster that is electric vehicles, the absolute unmitigated disaster. It's

1029
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 2: Honda that has just taken a massive, massive write down.

1030
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 3: On electric vehicles to the.

1031
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 2: Tune of a four point three billion dollar loss. I

1032
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 2: think it's their first loss. I think, I do. I

1033
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 2: think it's their first loss since they began disclosing results

1034
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy seven, and they had predicted a profit,

1035
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 2: but because they had a write down of fifteen point

1036
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 2: seven billion in charges, because the EV market.

1037
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 3: Completely collapsed, they took a loss.

1038
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 2: And the chief executive, Toshihiro Mebe saying, quote, the situation

1039
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 2: changed far more rapidly than we expected. The suspension of

1040
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 2: EV subsidies in North America undercut growth and competition, and

1041
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 2: Chinaman we couldn't provide attractive models or maintain our competitive edge.

1042
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 3: Now we cannot allow Chinese.

1043
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 2: Made evs to be sold in the United States or

1044
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,839
Speaker 2: even operated in the United States. They can't be allowed.

1045
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 2: And I know Canada is going to be all in

1046
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 2: on this. We cannot allow them over the border. There

1047
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 2: is no question. We can't allow this, and if we do,

1048
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 2: we're insane. Who cares what the Canadians wants. This is

1049
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 2: an area where it's worth a real fight. But you

1050
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 2: take Honda and then you add to it Stlantis twenty

1051
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 2: five billion in charges Ford nineteen point five, and they

1052
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 2: make the lightning. And I've driven the lightning for a

1053
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 2: long time. It was given to me to use by

1054
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,520
Speaker 2: a local dealership that I was working with. It's spectacular,

1055
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 2: spec tacular nineteen point five billion dollar hit.

1056
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,719
Speaker 3: You cannot force the market to do what you want.

1057
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,919
Speaker 2: All of the pressure, all of the of the narrative,

1058
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 2: all of it all focused on electric is the future,

1059
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 2: and America and the world said nope. Now these companies

1060
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 2: are taking these massive right downs. And you think the

1061
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 2: left is gonna learn from this, Absolutely not. They're gonna

1062
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 2: keep trying to raise the minimum wage. They're gonna push

1063
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 2: this again. They're gonna push windmills. You shouldn't be able

1064
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 2: to have a gas powered stove. They're gonna try it

1065
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 2: all again. They never stop, they never rest, they never quit,

1066
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 2: So we have to never stop rest nor quit in

1067
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:46,480
Speaker 2: keeping them out of office. These people are freaking deranged.

1068
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 2: Reality punches them in the face over and over and

1069
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 2: over and over again, and they go, hey, you know what,

1070
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 2: we should try the same exact thing. They never learned.

1071
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 2: They don't want to learn, They just want to see

1072
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 2: when they could try it next, because this time they'll

1073
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 2: do it right, no matter how much it hurts you,

1074
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 2: And they don't care if they hurt you. Somewhere, I

1075
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 2: think they're happier when they hurt you, because that way.

1076
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 3: You'll really know how important it is. Don't know, it won't.

1077
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 2: Hurt them, No, they'll put themselves in that special position,

1078
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 2: but you could take the hurting. After all, You're not

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Speaker 2: more special than anybody else, are you? Is that or

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Speaker 2: is that not exactly how they act? I'm Tony Katz.

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01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz. Today oil prices up and then

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01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,759
Speaker 2: they were down a little bit up. No one knows

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01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 2: where it's going to end. What I do know is

1084
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 2: that if the market has set themselves on believing that

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01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 2: everything in the strait of horn moves will determine the

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01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 2: future of oil, anything, well, then the straight of horn

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01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 2: moves matters, and matters greatly. Tony Kats, Tony Katz today,

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01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 2: good to be with you. I don't appreciate the Secretary

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01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 2: of War Sect, Trade Defense Pete Hegseth in his pressure

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01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 2: today saying that doesn't matter. It absolutely does matter. Now

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01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 2: he said a lot of good stuff. I'm going to

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01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 2: share that with you coming up in a little bit.

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01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 2: He said, a lot of good stuff. And I appreciate

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01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 2: that we're getting a little more focused on how these

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01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 2: press conferences should go. Maybe I'm buying better attention to them.

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Speaker 2: But when you say, you know the strait of our moves,

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Speaker 2: don't worry about it.

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01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 3: We got it covered. You only have it covered if.

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Speaker 2: The oil is flowing, and if the tankers feel free

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Speaker 2: to move. As long as they're afraid to move, you

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01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 2: don't have it covered. And now you've got brend crude

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Speaker 2: over one hundred dollars a barrel, and then it's not

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Speaker 2: over one hundred dollars. People need stability that only happens

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Speaker 2: if the United States provides it.

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01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 3: I've got more on this, keep it here.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 1: Why from the Hartland and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 3: It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: So we have two different reports, well really two different

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01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 2: pieces of data, and it.

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01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 3: Sent the markets right from the beginning up.

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01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,839
Speaker 2: But it tells us that inflation is three point one percent.

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01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 2: It tells us that the GDP was only zero point

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01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 2: seven percent growth in the fourth quarter.

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01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,480
Speaker 3: I mean, that number is freaking anemic.

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01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 2: That's all because of the shutdown in October November, and

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01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 2: of inflation is three point one Why are both the

1118
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 2: Dow and the Nasdaq, at least.

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01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 3: At the start of the market today.

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Speaker 2: Why did they go up over three hundred points of

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01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,799
Speaker 2: the Dow over one hundred in the Nasdaq? What exactly

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01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 2: is going on here? Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good

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01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:54,520
Speaker 2: to be with you. Doctor Matt will Joins, us economist

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Speaker 2: at the University of Indianapolis.

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Speaker 3: Caught it while he's on the road.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate taking the time. Let's let's let's start with this

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Speaker 2: inflation number, because this inflation number says three point one percent.

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Speaker 2: Well three point one percent, three percent inflation, Well that's

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01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 2: that's more than the one point seven that the administration

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Speaker 2: wants to talk about. How they want to look at

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01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 2: the numbers and if it's three point one. Why is

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01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 2: the market saying, well, that's good news.

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Speaker 12: Well, let me just say that the market's not saying

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01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 12: it's good news because the market's digesting two reports, the

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01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 12: GDP revision and the PCEE report. The pce is is

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Speaker 12: what you're referring to. It's the inflation report that the

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01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 12: Fed uses. And the reason the market didn't react negatively

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01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 12: is neither one of these are a surprise. That's the key.

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01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,719
Speaker 12: The key is what is expected and what actually happens,

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01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 12: and neither one of these are a surprise. But let

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01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 12: me correct the number. You said three point one again,

1142
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 12: that's the headline they want to tell you. Core pce

1143
01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 12: was point four for the month. Let me repeat that,

1144
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 12: point four for the month is going for the year.

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01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, four point eight. We knew it.

1146
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 2: You're going to multiply by twelve. And you make it

1147
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 2: sound all miserable, and that's why people say you're doctor doom.

1148
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 3: But you're not trying to be doctor doom.

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01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 12: I'm just trying to be realistic here because that's what

1150
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 12: it is, and that's what the FED is looking at.

1151
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 12: The most recent month is trending up. It's not in

1152
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,639
Speaker 12: a small way. It's trending up in a pretty significant way.

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01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 12: And that's what we're seeing in this inflation report. And

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01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 12: it's across the board, healthcare, housing, utilities, financial services, final

1155
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 12: expenditures for institutions, all these top four category. You mentioned

1156
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 12: it all the time. Insurance insurance rates massively up sixteen percent.

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01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 12: That's not a small amount, and that's in this PC

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01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 12: report that the Fed uses to make policy.

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Speaker 3: So now we take a look at point four.

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Speaker 2: You say, well, then that's higher than three point one.

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01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 2: Why doesn't the market react to that number? As you're

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01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:08,520
Speaker 2: describing the number we should focus on, Well, the market's.

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01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 12: Not reacting because this isn't news. The PCE is giving

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01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,719
Speaker 12: us the same data that we saw in the ISM report,

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01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 12: which is the Manufacturing Index report, which it said was

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01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 12: extremely high inflation. It's now a trend and again we

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01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 12: saw that trend. So it's not news. And so the

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01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 12: market is not reacting negatively because this is expected. Is

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01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 12: it good? No, but it's not a surprise to the market.

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01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 12: And I believe the market is reacting more to the

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01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 12: war than they are to these two reports, because these

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01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 12: two reports have nothing new in them, and therefore the

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01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 12: market say, okay, let's put it aside, and I believe

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01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,680
Speaker 12: what you're seeing in the market is other information, you know,

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01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,759
Speaker 12: such as oil isn't as bad as we thought. Okay,

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01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 12: so there's other data it's consuming other than just these

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01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:55,759
Speaker 12: two reports.

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Speaker 2: Talking to doctor Matt Well, economist at the University of Indianapolis,

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01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 2: you brought up oil. Let's just get into this really

1180
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 2: quick before I get back to the inflation conversation. We

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01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 2: see that there are tankers not willing to move through

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01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 2: the Strait of Horn Moves. We see that Iran has

1183
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 2: made threats on tankers going through the Strait of Horn Moose.

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01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:18,799
Speaker 2: We have seen the administration say we aren't yet putting

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01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 2: a naval escort to tankers.

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01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 3: We heard the Secretary of Warpeede.

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01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,719
Speaker 2: HEGSA to say today say don't worry about the straight

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01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 2: of horror moves. We have seen the oil prices go

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Speaker 2: up to one hundred and twenty come back down to eighty.

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Speaker 2: The issue here with oil, as you see it, is

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01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 2: this something that self regulates its way out. Is this

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01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 2: something that needs a bit of military intervention escorts and

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01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 2: then immediately you see oil go back to sixty dollars

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01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 2: a barrel. What's the mover here.

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01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 12: Oh goodness, well, okay, I gotta get a little nerdy on,

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01:16:58,920 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 12: young come.

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01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 2: I only thought you would.

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Speaker 12: The problem we have with oil is we have a

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01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:08,520
Speaker 12: flow system. It used to be that we did bash processing,

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01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 12: which means the crew to oil would show up on

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01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 12: a truck or a tank or go to a refinery.

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01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 12: The refinery would process it, put in another tank, and

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01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 12: then the tank would send it out to the world

1204
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,719
Speaker 12: through trucks and so forth. Now it's a flow system

1205
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 12: because the darn liberals haven't let us build new refineries

1206
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 12: in forever. So any slight disruption and now flows off

1207
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 12: of you know, the loop out in the in the

1208
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 12: Gulf of Mexico typically goes to a refinery, goes onto

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01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 12: a pipeline up the Mississippi, goes to another distribution center,

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01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 12: let's say Illinois. It's flowing. So any disruption in the flow,

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01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 12: whether it's that disruption occurs in the Gulf where it

1212
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 12: occurs in Saudi Arabia, or occurs in you know, when

1213
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 12: I say Golf, I'm talking like, you know, the Middle

1214
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 12: East or the Gulf of America. It doesn't matter. That

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01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 12: flow is being disrupted and the war is doing that.

1216
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 12: So you ask the question, how can we resolve it?

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01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 12: I'm sorry to say that. You know this may sound tough,

1218
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 12: but from an economic standpoint, the US has to get

1219
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 12: control of the straits. It's not escorts, it's not just

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01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:10,640
Speaker 12: mine sweepers. They have to get control the sway in

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01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 12: the straits. And what does that mean. Maybe you put

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01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 12: boots on the ground on the other side and Iran

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01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 12: in order to control the straits. If they don't control

1224
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 12: the straits, the flow will be disrupted. And the flow

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01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 12: is what's important, and it's being disrupted at this very moment.

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01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 2: I think one can control what's known as carg Island

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01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 2: and still be able to get that result. Talking to

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01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 2: doctor Matt Will, economist at the University of Indianapolis, and

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01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 2: I should note that we are building in the United States,

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01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 2: because I'm totally with you on refineries. We're building our

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01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 2: first new refinery in fifty years. This is going to

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01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 2: happen in Brownsville, Texas. It's a three hundred billion dollar

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01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 2: deal that is being funded with help from I believe

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01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 2: it's India that's a part of this, which all right,

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01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 2: I've got questions about there, but we do have a

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01:18:57,439 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 2: new refinery that's slowly being built. We are years behind

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01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 2: in our refinery capacity. But now let's bring it back

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01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 2: to the inflation conversation. The markets seem to at this

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01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 2: report seemed to go Okay, great, this is in line

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01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 2: with where we thought things would be. We've already got

1241
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 2: it baked into the cake. Everything's good. Let things build

1242
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 2: and grow from here. We'll take any good news anywhere

1243
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 2: we can find the good news. And it just seems

1244
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 2: to be very disconnected from the oil price conversation that

1245
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 2: on any given day, the markets will allow any given

1246
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 2: thing to affect them, and none of that is telling

1247
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:52,599
Speaker 2: us an economic story, presenting a valuable picture, an honest

1248
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:55,640
Speaker 2: picture of where we're at. Paint the picture for me.

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01:19:56,080 --> 01:20:00,080
Speaker 2: Here we are, March twenty twenty six. Where is this economy?

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01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 12: Well, I don't know that I can say it much

1251
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,759
Speaker 12: better than what you just did, because that's the whole point.

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01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:10,680
Speaker 12: The market is being reactive. It's seeing what's happening with

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01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 12: an oil tanker. It's seeing what's happened with a bomb

1254
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 12: being sohought into you know, the Middle East, whether it's

1255
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,639
Speaker 12: Dubai or Tel Aviv. You know, it's reacting to all

1256
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 12: these things. You know the problems in Washington, you know

1257
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:27,719
Speaker 12: gridlock on, you know the DHS. These things are causing

1258
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 12: the market to react. And the picture that needs to

1259
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 12: be drawn is we don't want that. We want the market,

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01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 12: we want the economy to not be looking in the

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01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 12: Middle East, to Washington, d C. To Congress, and to

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01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 12: the present. We want the market to be looking at

1263
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 12: Wall Street, Main Street, manufacturing, profits, productivity. We want it

1264
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 12: to be looking at the day to day things that

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01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 12: happen in the economy, not politics. And that is totally

1266
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 12: causing chaos. The market doesn't like you know again, people

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01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 12: they not like to hear this. They don't like Republicans,

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01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 12: they don't like democrats. They like stability, and there is

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01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 12: no stability right now. There is chaos in the world,

1270
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:09,680
Speaker 12: and that is what the market hates. It wants the

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01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 12: chaos that disappears so it can focus in on the

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01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:13,719
Speaker 12: nuts and bolts of business.

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01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 2: So now let's move this around talking to doctor Matt Well,

1274
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 2: economists at the University of Indianapolis, and let's talk about

1275
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 2: this GDP number. Fourth quarter GDP got revised down to

1276
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 2: point seven percent.

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01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:32,600
Speaker 3: I use the word anemic.

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01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 2: Point seven percent is horrible, awful, very bad, non existent.

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01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 2: What the hell is happening to you? Growth explain the

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01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 2: number to me?

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01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:48,520
Speaker 12: Well, you know what anemic is even a generous term,

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01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:51,759
Speaker 12: because this is like, you know, in using the analogy

1283
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 12: of poker, It's like you're sitting across the table from

1284
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,599
Speaker 12: someone and the opponent you're playing against just drew an

1285
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 12: inside straight and you throw your cards on the table.

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01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 12: Take and you got me. Kennemy had a pair of

1287
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 12: vases and this person draws an insight straight. Yeah, because

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01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 12: if you look at the GDP numbers, every single component

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Speaker 12: was revised in the wrong direction. So first of all,

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Speaker 12: right out of the gate, the GDP price deflator, which

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Speaker 12: is the inflation part of the GDP, was higher than expected.

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Speaker 12: The consumer spending was lower than expected, business investment was

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Speaker 12: lower than inspected. Exports okay, and I'm going to you know, yeah,

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Speaker 12: doctor Doom is here. Exports were less than expected because

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Speaker 12: of terriffs. Tariffs don't increase exports, they decrease them in

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Speaker 12: the long run. We've seen it and the data shows it.

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Speaker 12: Imports also caused a contraction. And the only good part,

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Speaker 12: but it's a drag on GDP, is government reduced its

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Speaker 12: size more than it was anticipated originally, So all these

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Speaker 12: things moved into the exact wrong direction to cause this

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Speaker 12: GDP to decline. You couldn't have asked for a more

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01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 12: perfect storm to negatively the impact. And of course we

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Speaker 12: all know where this came from, mostly was the massive

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Speaker 12: government shutdown in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: So now you've mentioned that before, walk us through.

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Speaker 3: It again in case anybody missed it. I don't mean before.

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Speaker 2: Just now. We talked to doctor will a lot. How

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Speaker 2: does the shutdown this is October November, this is forty

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Speaker 2: two days. How does the shutdown have such a radical

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Speaker 2: effect on the gross domestic product? Well, the one.

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Speaker 12: Component, which I believe and we've discussed is very flawed,

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01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 12: is that government spending can actually expand the GDP and

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Speaker 12: government contraction can actually reduce the GDP. So that part

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Speaker 12: is a good reason why GDP would fall, and that's

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Speaker 12: what happened because the government was shut down. But what

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Speaker 12: the government also does is things we need. It runs

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01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:56,719
Speaker 12: you know, Norfolk, Virginia, Port bayonwe New Jersey, Oakland, California, Jacksonville, Florida.

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Speaker 12: The government, if they're not operating those ports, cannot operate

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Speaker 12: to import and export goods. So that slows it down.

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Speaker 12: You need a permit to continue to build the new

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Speaker 12: refinery that you just mentioned. Well, that process to get

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Speaker 12: the ball rolling is stopped because of the government shut

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Speaker 12: down in the fourth quarter. It's not you know, I'm

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Speaker 12: not a big government guy, but I'm not a no

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Speaker 12: government guy. You need the government to be the referee,

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Speaker 12: to be the police officer, to be the military, and

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Speaker 12: also simply to make sure everybody is following the rules. Well,

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Speaker 12: those people were sidelined for the fourth quarter, and it

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Speaker 12: impacts everyone across the board. You can't put up a

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Speaker 12: factory without an approval from the government. Even though Trump

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Speaker 12: is expediting those approvals, you couldn't get the approval because

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Speaker 12: the government was shut down.

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Speaker 2: Talking to doctor Matt Will, economists at the University of Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: So we see this revised down number point seven. The

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Speaker 2: market looks at this and says, Okay, there's a reason

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Speaker 2: for it. Go full Taylor, swift, shake it off. Onward

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Speaker 2: and upward? What is an onward and that's what I

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Speaker 2: think they're saying. You could disagree with me there, but

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Speaker 2: what does an onward and upward look like? You know,

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Speaker 2: the first quarter of twenty twenty six, everything's going to

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01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 2: be just fine. We still have a partial shutdown with

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Speaker 2: the Department of Homeland Security, so there's going to be

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Speaker 2: some impact there. At what moment do we see low

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01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 2: GDP numbers affect the US economy?

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Speaker 12: You know, you're afraid. I like your shake it off phrase,

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01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 12: because that's what the market was doing. That's what it

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01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,839
Speaker 12: is doing at this very moment as we speak, it's saying, Okay,

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01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:37,639
Speaker 12: this is fine, we understand why it happened. By the way,

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Speaker 12: I'm no genius on this, Tony. The market do exactly

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01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 12: the same thing that I just said about why GDP

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01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 12: was not where it should be. But let me go

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Speaker 12: back to your earlier comment. The chaos is being created

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01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 12: by the geopolitical world right now is going to make

1354
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 12: the market nervous because if that can be put aside,

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01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 12: we've said this touch in a row of growing domestic manufacturing. Wow,

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01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 12: we haven't seen that in years. And then you look

1357
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Speaker 12: at the other things that are happening, such as the AI,

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01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 12: such as the deep investments that's occurring throughout the country

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Speaker 12: domestically and also importing dollars into the US investments scene.

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Speaker 12: There are a lot of positive things. You know, we

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01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,599
Speaker 12: could list them all. We've done it before, no need

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01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:28,719
Speaker 12: to do it again. That's what the market is looking for,

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01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 12: that's what the market sees. And if we could just

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01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 12: stop the chaos around the world, that's what the market

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01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 12: is optimistic about.

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Speaker 13: If big, if big, if last, but not least before

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Speaker 13: I let you go. In all of this, we noticed

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Speaker 13: that there's no conversation of AI investment whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: And there's been a lot of talk from a lot

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01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 2: of people about maybe the AI investment is overblown. And

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Speaker 2: you've got people like the Fames, Mark Burry, who's who's

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Speaker 2: betting against this, that the investment is just too much,

1373
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 2: it's been too great, it's overblown, it's unserious, and it

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01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:12,839
Speaker 2: has to be clawed back. There's just too much reliance

1375
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 2: on AI investment to lead everything. Are we going to

1376
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 2: see an AI snapback? Or is this investment still full

1377
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 2: bore ahead?

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Speaker 12: No questions, no, no, Look, look, you know Michael Burry

1379
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 12: got he got he got big. You know he got

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01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 12: successful in the big short Okay, good for him. He's

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01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 12: wrong on this one. There is no stopping The reason

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01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:34,680
Speaker 12: you haven't heard it in the news because it's now

1383
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:38,120
Speaker 12: just a foregone conclusion. We just assume it's happening and

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01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 12: it is so, no, do we do not in the

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01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 12: gate and do not bet against Ai. That's that'd be

1386
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 12: like Bettan gets the Internet when it was first invented.

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Speaker 12: I remember people saying, Oh, that online e commerce shopping thing,

1388
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:52,720
Speaker 12: it's a fad, it's not going anywhere. Yeah, have that

1389
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 12: thought at your own risk.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's definitive.

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Speaker 2: That's that's very direct right there, Doctor Mattwell, economist at

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Speaker 2: the University of Indianapolis. I appreciate you taking the time

1393
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 2: to be with us. More is coming up on Tony Katz.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Cats today.

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Speaker 6: Temple Israel is a pillar of the community.

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01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 14: It's one of the largest Reformed Jewish congregations in North America,

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01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 14: with Friday night Shabbat services attraction over one thousand people,

1398
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 14: people celebrating bar and bat Mitzvah's weddings and holidays. Here,

1399
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 14: parents bring their children to daycare and school, and it's

1400
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:32,839
Speaker 14: a place of peace, unity, light and life. Yesterday's attack

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01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 14: was anti Semitism. It was hate, plain and simple.

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01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 2: Now, the Governor of Michigan Gresha and Whitmer, there is

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01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 2: not wrong about that. It's anti senitism, plain and simple.

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01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 2: It was an act of terrorism. Yes, it was directed

1405
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 2: at the synagogue. But you now add to what happened

1406
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 2: at Old Dominion University, You now add to it what

1407
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:57,520
Speaker 2: happened in Austin, Texas over a week ago. It's terrorism

1408
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 2: and all these things have a connection point in terms

1409
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 2: of the people who committed these acts and how they're connected.

1410
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 2: She doesn't want to talk about that, so she is

1411
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:10,600
Speaker 2: only engaging half the story. Of course, it's anti Semitism,

1412
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 2: but the story is greater. This is about an attack

1413
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 2: on us. We already know that Jews are under attack,

1414
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 2: has been going on for years. It's like she never

1415
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 2: noticed what was happening at Columbia University. Tony Katz Tony

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01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:24,759
Speaker 2: kats today tanks for being a part of the show.

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01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 3: She shocked.

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01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,559
Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden matters because it's in her state.

1419
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:32,560
Speaker 2: We know this, but there's a larger story too, And

1420
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 2: you've got to be able to talk about both, or

1421
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 2: you're not talking about anything properly.

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01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 6: We will fight this ancient and rampant evil.

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01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 14: We will stand together as we do it, and we

1424
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 14: will call it out. We must lower the rhetoric in

1425
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:52,599
Speaker 14: this state and in this country, especially at this moment

1426
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 14: where we have seen such a rise in anti Semitism

1427
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 14: and more attacks than the Jewish community.

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01:29:57,880 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 3: We've been calling it out for a couple of years.

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01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 2: Now. Where have you been, Governor Whitmer. Where's the Democratic

1430
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 2: Party been against Columbia University, against Makwood Khalil, against UCLA

1431
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:13,839
Speaker 2: and all of these schools, against Rashida Talib in your state.

1432
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:18,560
Speaker 3: Oh, you're a hard one to believe, Governor Whitmer.

1433
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:20,839
Speaker 6: Must keep each other close.

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01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 14: This community is on the edge very understandably. We've seen

1435
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 14: a rise in attacks, especially over the last decade, especially.

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01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 6: Over the last ten months, and so it is.

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01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 14: Important for us to stand up, to stand against it,

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01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 14: and to thank the people who showed up to support

1439
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 14: the community, but also call out where we see acts

1440
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:51,599
Speaker 14: of anti Semitism, where we see thrusts, where we see something.

1441
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 6: How important it is to say something.

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01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 2: Oh, look, it's the mayor of New York, Governor, Governor Whitmer,

1443
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:58,679
Speaker 2: it's the mayor of New York. Look there.

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01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 14: To recognize that each of us has a responsibility. People

1445
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 14: like the person that attack this community yesterday get fomented

1446
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:14,599
Speaker 14: by rhetoric that they see online and that they see on.

1447
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:18,639
Speaker 6: Television and they hear on the radio. It radicalizes people.

1448
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 2: Look, you can blame me for a lot of things,

1449
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 2: but engaging in radicalizing islamis to try and create a

1450
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:28,920
Speaker 2: worldwide caliphate by destroying Western civilization. Now I'm the guy

1451
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:32,280
Speaker 2: warning against that. Let's talk about who is trying to

1452
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:35,799
Speaker 2: enable that, who is supportive of the attacks on Jenis

1453
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 2: in America, And let's see something about the bat government.

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01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 2: This is Tony Cats.

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01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:45,559
Speaker 7: Today, bottom line up front, for the world to hear

1456
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 7: and the press to actually admit that the United States

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01:31:50,479 --> 01:31:53,559
Speaker 7: is decimating the radical Iranian regimes military in a.

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01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 2: Way the world has never seen before. Never before has a.

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01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:03,640
Speaker 7: Modern capable military which Iran used to have been so

1460
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:07,760
Speaker 7: quickly destroyed and made combat ineffective and devastated.

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01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 3: We said it.

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01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 2: Would not be a fair fight, and it has not been.

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01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 7: As I stated during our first press conference on day two,

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01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 7: that was ten short days ago, the combination of the

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01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 7: world's two most powerful air forces is unprecedented and unbeatable.

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01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 2: Between our air force and that.

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01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:31,040
Speaker 7: Of the Israelis, over fifteen thousand enemy targets have been struck.

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01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 7: That's well over one thousand a day. No other combination

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01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 7: of countries in the world can do that.

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Speaker 3: That was the Secretary of War, Secretary of Defense.

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Speaker 2: Depending on how you like to talk about these things,

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Speaker 2: Pete Hegsaith with the press briefing today, Tony Kaks, Tony

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01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 2: Kaks today, good to be with you, Good to be here.

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01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 3: I wanted to share it with you because they do it.

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01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:51,439
Speaker 2: Earlier in the day.

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01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:52,640
Speaker 3: I wanted to make sure that you heard it.

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01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 2: I wanted to break down some pieces of it because

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01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 2: some of it is him going directly at the press.

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01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 2: Some of it is him relay saying here's what we've done.

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01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 2: Some of it he's word playing in a way that

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01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 2: I don't think works. I think you could take this

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01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 2: from nearly any press conference. But these things have been

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01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:13,639
Speaker 2: going on and they're not really getting as reported as

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01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:16,720
Speaker 2: much as I think they should be. So I want

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01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:18,639
Speaker 2: to be someone who reports it. So let's head back

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01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 2: to the Secretary of War.

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Speaker 3: Secretary of Defense.

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01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 2: Depending on how you say these things, Pete.

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01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:24,759
Speaker 3: Hagseth with this press briefing this morning.

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01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 7: So today, as we speak, we fly over the top

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01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 7: of Iran and Tehran fighters and bombers all day, picking

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01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 7: targets as they choose as our intelligence gets better and

1493
01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:45,559
Speaker 7: better and more refined, looking up the IRGC and Ironian

1494
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 7: regime sees only two things on the side of aircraft,

1495
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 7: the stars and stripes and the star of David, the

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01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 7: evil regime's worst nightmare.

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01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 2: This is about trying to moralize the IRGC. This is

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01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:05,600
Speaker 2: about as these messages get back to them, We're everywhere.

1499
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:08,639
Speaker 2: You can't stop us. We're all over you, we can

1500
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:11,080
Speaker 2: see you, we know everything that you're doing.

1501
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 3: That's what this is all about.

1502
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:17,400
Speaker 7: Iran has no air defenses, Iran has no air force,

1503
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:21,600
Speaker 7: Iran has no navy. Their missiles, their missile launchers, and

1504
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 7: drones being destroyed or shot out of the sky. Their

1505
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:28,559
Speaker 7: missile volume is down ninety percent. They're one way attacked

1506
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 7: drones yesterday down ninety five percent. And as the world

1507
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:38,200
Speaker 7: is seeing, they are exercising sheer desperation in the straits

1508
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:42,599
Speaker 7: of hermus Something we're dealing with, we have been dealing

1509
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 7: with it, and don't need to worry about it.

1510
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 2: You can't say that, No, no, no, you can't say that.

1511
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:57,920
Speaker 3: Oh dear Lord.

1512
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 2: That line.

1513
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:57,599
Speaker 3: The first time I heard it was.

1514
01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 2: Like, oh, come on, now, tell people, yeah yea, yeah, yeah,

1515
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 2: all that oil, like the whole conversation we were having

1516
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 2: with doctor will I forget about that.

1517
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 3: Way, it'll be fine.

1518
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 2: No, No, when it's fine, it's fine.

1519
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 3: Don't tell me not to pay attention.

1520
01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 2: When it's not fine.

1521
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:16,080
Speaker 3: Take out the regime, it'll be fine.

1522
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:18,680
Speaker 2: Why is there still a regime left? It leads to

1523
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 2: those kinds of questions. So this from from beeteg Seth

1524
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:26,519
Speaker 2: is if I was talking to him, I would have

1525
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:29,679
Speaker 2: laughed out loud and said, oh, come on now, out loud.

1526
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:32,599
Speaker 3: I would have said that, don't worry about it. I'll

1527
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 3: worry about it a little bit.

1528
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:40,120
Speaker 2: Gas prices, by the way, are much higher than they

1529
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:43,639
Speaker 2: were two weeks ago, But I still don't think they're

1530
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 2: at the numbers they were under Biden.

1531
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:45,760
Speaker 3: Are they have?

1532
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:48,040
Speaker 2: We made that comparison yet, I gotta go back and check.

1533
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 2: Maybe they're maybe they're close to at those numbers. This

1534
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:55,879
Speaker 2: was an act of war that leads to the increasing

1535
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 2: gas prices. What caused the increase in gas prices? When

1536
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 2: Joe Biden was present it? You're going to talk about

1537
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 2: it now you didn't talk about it. Then. This is

1538
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:08,880
Speaker 2: you and me saying of the political left to you people,

1539
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:12,639
Speaker 2: you'll se anything. You'll say anything, you'll take advantage of anything.

1540
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 2: You are not to be trusted. I'm talking about you

1541
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:17,559
Speaker 2: and me. We're allowed to say, Hey, the gas prices

1542
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 2: are higher because of this, and I don't think the

1543
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:22,559
Speaker 2: Trump administration that has done a good job of selling

1544
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 2: it and why this has to be why this matters,

1545
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 2: and we can get through this. We can make it

1546
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:31,320
Speaker 2: through this. It will be a short term pain. We

1547
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:34,880
Speaker 2: can get through it together. We are capable, We're strong,

1548
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 2: We're Americans. We can handle it. What we get on

1549
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:40,880
Speaker 2: the other side is a terrorism free Iran, which makes

1550
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 2: America far safer.

1551
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 3: Kind of sell it right, but don't worry about it.

1552
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the secretaration, No, that's dog won hunt.

1553
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:53,679
Speaker 7: We're un planned to defeat, destroy, disable all of their

1554
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 7: meaningful military capabilities at a pace the world has never

1555
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:02,400
Speaker 7: seen before. But it's not just that Iran doesn't have

1556
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 7: a functioning air force, or that their entire navy is

1557
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:08,719
Speaker 7: at the bottom of the Persian Gulf, or their missile

1558
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 7: force is shrinking daily. Even more importantly, they also don't

1559
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:16,599
Speaker 7: have the ability to build more. That's the most important

1560
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 7: component I'd like to emphasize today. Soon and very soon,

1561
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:26,799
Speaker 7: all of Iran's defense companies will be destroyed. For example,

1562
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 7: as of two days ago, Iran's entire ballistic missile production capacity,

1563
01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:35,320
Speaker 7: every company that builds every component of those missiles has

1564
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:40,720
Speaker 7: been functionally defeated, destroyed. Buildings, complexes, and factory lines all

1565
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 7: across Iran destroyed. So we're shooting down and destroying what

1566
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:49,599
Speaker 7: missiles they still have in stock, but more importantly, ensuring

1567
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:54,799
Speaker 7: that they have no ability to make more their production lines,

1568
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:59,719
Speaker 7: their military plants, their defense innovation centers defeated.

1569
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 2: The real question here, Secretary Hegseth, is what are we

1570
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 2: doing to ensure that China can't drop off any more

1571
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:09,160
Speaker 2: missiles Russia the same way, Not that those missiles aren't

1572
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:12,360
Speaker 2: necessarily effective. And there really is a story here about

1573
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:17,880
Speaker 2: the SUE four hundred. The SU four hundred is the

1574
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 2: Russian missile defense system. No, I'm sorry, the s U

1575
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:25,200
Speaker 2: four hundred is the missile. The S four hundred is

1576
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:32,679
Speaker 2: the missile defense system, and their missile defense system has

1577
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 2: been rendered a big hot mess, like doesn't work.

1578
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:41,719
Speaker 3: This was supposed to be.

1579
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:49,800
Speaker 2: The Patriot Fighter, right, the F thirty five killer, Remember

1580
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 2: the F thirty five strike fighter, that's our most advanced

1581
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 2: fighter check and this the S four hundred was supposed

1582
01:38:56,280 --> 01:39:00,559
Speaker 2: to absolutely be able to ruin this, and so it

1583
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:03,320
Speaker 2: was a big problem when the Turks bought this system,

1584
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 2: but they were instrumental in building as a NATO nation.

1585
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:08,280
Speaker 2: Part of the F thirty five is like, what the

1586
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:10,760
Speaker 2: hell is going on? And then the S four hundred

1587
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:16,200
Speaker 2: gets out into the field and Nope, doesn't work. And

1588
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:19,080
Speaker 2: these Chinese missiles they don't seem to work. And so

1589
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 2: that is a big, big part of this story that

1590
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:28,080
Speaker 2: doesn't get much coverage at all. And maybe maybe there's

1591
01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:31,080
Speaker 2: a positive to that that we're fully aware of it,

1592
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:33,520
Speaker 2: but we don't talk about it much. But the military

1593
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:34,280
Speaker 2: is going through.

1594
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:35,280
Speaker 3: Every last bit of it.

1595
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:38,640
Speaker 2: Because some of these people they unzip their fly to

1596
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 2: use to use a crass expression, I get, I guess,

1597
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:44,719
Speaker 2: and we are like, we're able to see and they

1598
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:45,800
Speaker 2: ain't working with much.

1599
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 3: I was pretty cross of me. That is not my

1600
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:51,400
Speaker 3: every day huh, bravo me.

1601
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:52,479
Speaker 2: Look at that.

1602
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:56,479
Speaker 3: I'm all out there on the edge, that is what

1603
01:39:56,600 --> 01:39:56,880
Speaker 3: I am.

1604
01:39:57,160 --> 01:40:00,320
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, sounded like nor McDonald, I'm not

1605
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:01,719
Speaker 2: doing a normal impression right now.

1606
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:02,679
Speaker 3: Rest is soul.

1607
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:07,400
Speaker 2: I just simply go back to what the Defense secretary

1608
01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:11,600
Speaker 2: was saying. And I just wonder what we're doing to

1609
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:15,160
Speaker 2: ensure that no more Russian or Chinese made missiles are

1610
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:17,799
Speaker 2: making their way to Iran if Iran is not capable

1611
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:22,160
Speaker 2: to make their own, which is of course excellent news.

1612
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:28,280
Speaker 7: Iran's leadership is in no better shape. Desperate and hiding.

1613
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 7: They've gone underground, cowering. That's what rats do.

1614
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:34,599
Speaker 2: We know.

1615
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:38,759
Speaker 7: The new so called not so supreme leader is wounded

1616
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:43,479
Speaker 7: and likely disfigured. He put our statement yesterday a week

1617
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:47,439
Speaker 7: one actually, but there was no voice and there was

1618
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 7: no video. It was a written statement. He called for unity.

1619
01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:55,960
Speaker 7: Apparently killing tens of thousands of protesters is his kind

1620
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:56,519
Speaker 7: of unity.

1621
01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:00,799
Speaker 2: Iran has plenty of cameras and plenty of voice recorders.

1622
01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:04,800
Speaker 2: Why a written statement? I think you know why.

1623
01:41:05,479 --> 01:41:09,400
Speaker 7: His father dead. He's scared, and he's injured. He's on

1624
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:12,800
Speaker 7: the run, and he lacks legitimacy. It's a mess for them.

1625
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:18,599
Speaker 7: Who's in charge Iran may not even know. With every

1626
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:22,840
Speaker 7: passing hour, we know, and we know they know that

1627
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 7: the military capabilities of their evil regime are crumbling. They

1628
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:30,280
Speaker 7: can barely communicate, let alone coordinate. They're confused. And we

1629
01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:34,479
Speaker 7: know it. Our response we will keep pressing, We will

1630
01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:40,639
Speaker 7: keep pushing, keep advancing, no quarter, no mercy for our enemies.

1631
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:45,320
Speaker 2: Now, this idea that he's disfigured, I don't. I have

1632
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:47,840
Speaker 2: no idea. I have no proof of such a thing.

1633
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 2: But it is worth noting that he has not been

1634
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:56,400
Speaker 2: heard from most Watah Kamani, and people pronounce his name

1635
01:41:56,439 --> 01:41:58,720
Speaker 2: in all sorts of ways. I don't have to give

1636
01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:00,840
Speaker 2: the guy any respect the best I can, and I

1637
01:42:00,920 --> 01:42:06,960
Speaker 2: move on with my day. Where is he? All we see,

1638
01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:11,640
Speaker 2: our statements, all we get are are references, but we

1639
01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:16,840
Speaker 2: don't see him. My digital director Sarah has now named him.

1640
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 2: Iya told the Autopen because who knows if he's alive

1641
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 2: or dead. By the way Iya told the Autopen, she

1642
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:24,920
Speaker 2: wrote me that she's like, is this funny? And I'm

1643
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:28,600
Speaker 2: like maybe, And the more I think about it, I

1644
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:32,960
Speaker 2: think it's in the delivery. So I'll credit her with

1645
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:35,280
Speaker 2: the writing, but I'll credit me with the delivery. I

1646
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:38,200
Speaker 2: give her all the credit. Well done, well played. Who

1647
01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 2: knows if this guy is alive or dead.

1648
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:40,800
Speaker 3: Or what's going on?

1649
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:45,480
Speaker 2: And then they have that whole you know, commitment ceremony

1650
01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 2: pledging their loyalty and it's a cardboard cutout of the dude.

1651
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:53,960
Speaker 2: But I think it's interesting that he used terminology like

1652
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:59,080
Speaker 2: disfigured and that it kind of makes you think that

1653
01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 2: they do know something thing, even if they're not telling

1654
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:02,639
Speaker 2: us everything.

1655
01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:05,760
Speaker 3: And then Pete Hegsath.

1656
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:11,840
Speaker 2: Got into a very very direct admonishment of the media.

1657
01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:15,639
Speaker 7: Yet some of this crew in the press just can't stop.

1658
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:20,160
Speaker 7: Allow me to make a few suggestions. If people look

1659
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:23,400
Speaker 7: up at the TV and they see banners, they see headlines.

1660
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:25,880
Speaker 7: I used to be in that business, and I know

1661
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:30,320
Speaker 7: that everything is written intentionally. For example, a banner or

1662
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:34,280
Speaker 7: a headline mid East War intensifies, splashing on the screen

1663
01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:38,080
Speaker 7: the last couple of days alongside visuals of civilian or

1664
01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 7: energy targets that Iran has hit, because that's what they do.

1665
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:47,280
Speaker 7: What should the banner read instead? How about Iran increasingly

1666
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:49,360
Speaker 7: desperate because they are.

1667
01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:51,639
Speaker 2: They know it, and so do.

1668
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 7: You, if it can be admitted or more fake news

1669
01:43:56,320 --> 01:44:01,360
Speaker 7: from CNN reports that the Trump administration underestimated the Iran

1670
01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:02,360
Speaker 7: War's impact on the.

1671
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:06,080
Speaker 2: Strait of Hormoz patently ridiculous.

1672
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:09,160
Speaker 7: Of course, for decades, Iran has threatened shipping in the

1673
01:44:09,200 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 7: street of hormos.

1674
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:11,880
Speaker 2: This is always what they do.

1675
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:16,840
Speaker 7: Hold the straight hostage. CNN doesn't think we thought of that.

1676
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 7: It's a fundamentally unserious report. The sooner David Ellison takes

1677
01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 7: over that network, the better.

1678
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:33,040
Speaker 2: Oh damn, that's brutal. David Ellison the company the bought Paramount.

1679
01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:37,000
Speaker 2: Therefore CBS brings in Barry Weiss. Now they're the ones

1680
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:40,960
Speaker 2: who have outbid a Netflix for Warner which owns CNN,

1681
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:43,799
Speaker 2: And everybody at CNN is wetting the bed and losing

1682
01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:45,840
Speaker 2: their mind because some of them are going to be

1683
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 2: on the unemployment line. And I would tell them to

1684
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:50,680
Speaker 2: learn to code, but AI already took care of that.

1685
01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:53,120
Speaker 2: So they're going to be working at Dairy Queen, although

1686
01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:55,280
Speaker 2: they don't get to make the blizzards because they're not

1687
01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:58,680
Speaker 2: yet capable of working the machine. What being afraid of

1688
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:02,559
Speaker 2: the high pitched warring noise. It sounds so violent. They

1689
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 2: need a safe space from you know, oreos being put

1690
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 2: into my blizzard, which is my preferred way. I know

1691
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 2: some people are with the Reeses, and I'm not opposed

1692
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 2: to reesas Reese is a solid, solid candy world class

1693
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 2: top three anywhere, but.

1694
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:17,120
Speaker 3: The cookies and cream.

1695
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:20,800
Speaker 2: Can we By the way, that's a lately thing with

1696
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:22,480
Speaker 2: cookies and cream cravings.

1697
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:25,840
Speaker 3: Almost you would think I was pregnant. No, no, no, no,

1698
01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:27,040
Speaker 3: I just love food.

1699
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:31,640
Speaker 2: So this was a pretty kind of all over the

1700
01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 2: place presser. You guys in the media aren't serious. It's

1701
01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 2: like you want us to fail, and you want to

1702
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:40,800
Speaker 2: report that we're failing. That's nonsense. We've eliminated this, that

1703
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:44,000
Speaker 2: the other, we've weakened, we've degraded, and I believe all

1704
01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:44,720
Speaker 2: that to be true, and.

1705
01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:47,920
Speaker 3: I believe the data backs that up. But don't tell us.

1706
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:49,400
Speaker 2: Not to worry about the shade of hermoves or oil.

1707
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:53,280
Speaker 2: They're still able to throw bombs and throw missiles, and

1708
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:57,880
Speaker 2: we have to stop that. It must get thwarted, and

1709
01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:02,760
Speaker 2: the sooner the better. Absolutely favor this hit only if

1710
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:07,040
Speaker 2: the regime is gone completely and totally and whatever comes

1711
01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:10,599
Speaker 2: next is not in the terrorism game. I'm Tony Katz

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Speaker 2: and this is Tony Kats today, So I guess I'm

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Speaker 2: now to take it that Congressman Thomas Massey believes that

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Speaker 2: Israel controls the US government. He's not one of these guys.

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Speaker 3: Is this who he is?

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Speaker 2: And this is all about the Epstein files Tony Katz.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, he was outside speaking to the press.

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Speaker 2: So there's this siren that comes through as he starts

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Speaker 2: as he's talking me about these files, meaning the Epstein files,

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Speaker 2: which I call for the release of and have since

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Speaker 2: the beginning. So don't let the siren freak you out.

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Speaker 2: It's not behind you. You're not speeding. Please don't be speeding. Listen.

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Speaker 2: These files implicate.

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Speaker 5: Billionaires in prints of him, of his and of political

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Speaker 5: donors that he's trying to protect. And Epstein also had

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Speaker 5: close ties to our own intelligence agencies, in Israel's intelligence agency,

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Speaker 5: that's why there's so much effort in trying to stop this,

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Speaker 5: and I do believe they'll try to stop it somewhere else,

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Speaker 5: and that's going to backfire on him too.

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Speaker 2: I again call for the release of the files. Is

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Speaker 2: he making the argument that Israel is trying to keep

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Speaker 2: this from happening because their people will be implicated and

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Speaker 2: others will be implicated. And that's what I honestly don't

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Speaker 2: know what the hell Messy is saying here. I don't

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Speaker 2: give a damn who is implicated. If you were abusing children,

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Speaker 2: you have to go to jail, and I don't care

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Speaker 2: where you're from. I don't care about your religion, don't

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01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 2: care about how much money, don't care about you political party,

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01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 2: don't give a damn, don't care. But this kind of

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01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:44,479
Speaker 2: talk gets people into the conspiracy freak world. And I

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01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:46,759
Speaker 2: now wonder with him whether he's doing this on purpose.

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Speaker 2: Everything should be released. Good Lord, just be done with

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01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:53,640
Speaker 2: this already. We want to know and people need to

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01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:56,720
Speaker 2: go to jail now. People don't go to jail, well,

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01:47:56,720 --> 01:47:59,479
Speaker 2: then we start having some serious words. Find everything at

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Speaker 2: Tony kat dot com or catch you a Monday. Everyone,

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Speaker 2: take care,