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Speaker 1: Joel is his name. Joel. By the way, did you

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Speaker 1: First, did you see the is it Ken Rosenthal? Is

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Speaker 3: Did I did? He ran over the Brewers team photographer

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Speaker 1: It's a bad look. I mean, he looks like a completely.

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Speaker 1: All right, Uh, let's begin with this, Joel, I thought yesterday,

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Speaker 1: You know, I I look at this Joel A. Eericson

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Speaker 1: Well I have one for you. Now you'r how walda fella?

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Speaker 3: And I think that what Jones, I think that Jones

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Speaker 3: in press conferences is is consciously trying to figure out

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Speaker 3: what Like I think he's very quickly going through what

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Speaker 3: what he wants to say, what more, but more importantly,

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Speaker 3: what he does not want to say. You know, I

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Speaker 3: thought the answer he gave to ESPN Stephen Holder yesterday

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Speaker 3: about you know, does this is there a sense of

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Speaker 3: satisfaction after everybody said that you couldn't play? Uh and and.

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Speaker 2: He said maybe a little.

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Speaker 3: But like the the look, the look in his eyes

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Speaker 3: was there's more.

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Speaker 2: Here, but I'm not I'm not ready to let anybody

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Speaker 2: in on that yet.

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Speaker 3: And and so I think he's kind of doing the

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Speaker 3: thing where he is what the words that come out

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Speaker 3: are are one thing, but I think he is sifting

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Speaker 3: through what he wants to say, what he doesn't want

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Speaker 3: to say, and like I said, significant significant emphasis on

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Speaker 3: what I what he does not want to say at.

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Speaker 1: This point, which I mean, I guess part of that shows,

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Speaker 1: you know, an emotional intelligence to an extent right to

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Speaker 1: be able to process through of what is going to

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Speaker 1: not everything needs to be said, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: I mean? And I think that was Again I hate

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Speaker 1: doing this because Joel, this is beyond just making everything

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Speaker 1: a comparison between Jones and Richardson, because we're past that now.

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Speaker 1: But I think that was kind of part of Anthony

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Speaker 1: Richardson's problem was And yes, it's unfair because we're like, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: like give us an answer here, give us a sound bite.

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Speaker 1: But I thought Richardson at times was too honest, right,

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Speaker 1: and showed a lack of maturity in understanding how to

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Speaker 1: answer those questions.

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Speaker 3: You agree with that, yeah, And I think that's another

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Speaker 3: thing that sticks out to me is that Jones sort

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Speaker 3: of understand not sort of. I think Jones really understands

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Speaker 3: how this works. He has said two weeks in a

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Speaker 3: row now, like yeah, this is great. But I think

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Speaker 3: this league, in some version of this league, it matters

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Speaker 3: if I'd it over and over and over again, and

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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter if I do it for one week.

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Speaker 3: And I think that that's something that you know, he

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Speaker 3: was in New York. He was in New York for

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Speaker 3: six years. I don't know that he was ever known

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Speaker 3: as like a as like a super forthcoming type of individual,

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Speaker 3: but he was in New York for six years, and

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Speaker 3: I think that that probably teaches you something about public

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Speaker 3: perception and how the NFL is going to be, because

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Speaker 3: that's that's where he goes to every time.

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Speaker 2: Anthony.

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Speaker 3: Anthony's younger, and I think I do think sometimes Anthony

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Speaker 3: answered questions without maybe realizing, oh, people are going to

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Speaker 3: take this.

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Speaker 2: The right way.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what the what the repercussions were going to be,

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Speaker 1: or the magnitude of what he was going to say,

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Speaker 1: right yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean like even and even stuff like you know,

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Speaker 3: his his back injury last year. You know, he he

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Speaker 3: mentioned it was a disc issue like that's honest, and

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Speaker 3: there's nothing wrong with being honest, So generally I would

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Speaker 3: prefer honesty in them. But it turned into this huge issue.

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Speaker 1: And well because didn't he say, if I know, we're

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Speaker 1: on the way back here, But didn't Richardson say this

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Speaker 1: is a back issue that I've had since high school

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Speaker 1: or something like that, which is like, whoa you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean yep, yeah, I mean that that is an

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Speaker 1: alarm bell for certain. All right, Joel A. Erickson joining

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Speaker 1: US Indianapolis Star, where you can get all of the

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Speaker 1: coverage for the Colts. Colts now two and oh, Joel

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Speaker 1: appreciated as always, Man, you bet, thanks for me. Good

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Speaker 1: luck your brewers. By the way, ninety one and fifty nine,

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Speaker 1: I think Milwaukee is the Colts are two and oh.

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Speaker 1: Their offense has been efficient and they got you know,

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Speaker 1: a second lease on that penalty at the field goal.

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Speaker 1: The guy yesterday that as a matter of fact, when

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Speaker 1: I heard some of Rick Ventury and he was saying, man,

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Speaker 1: this has been a really good series, and he said

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Speaker 1: that on a couple of occasions late in the game

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Speaker 1: when the Colts needed stopped, and he was talking about

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Speaker 1: Nick Cross, who joins US on the program now the

518
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Speaker 1: secondary and safety player for the Colts that when he

519
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Speaker 1: was brought into the league was brought in because he

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Speaker 1: was hyper athletic and now has molded himself into a

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Speaker 1: very solid player for Indianapolis. Nick, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good? How are you?

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Speaker 1: I want to begin with exactly what I was just mentioning,

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Speaker 1: and that is, and I know we're going back to

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Speaker 1: when you were coming out of Maryland, but you know,

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Speaker 1: when you came into the league, the kind of the

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Speaker 1: selling point of Nick Cross was that you had range

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Speaker 1: and that you you know, you had an athleticism about you.

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Speaker 1: But then I think for any player coming in there

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Speaker 1: there has to be an instinct that comes as well,

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Speaker 1: what is your comfort level in the NFL now versus

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Speaker 1: when you first came in, and just your overall kind

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Speaker 1: of understanding of that center field position.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I.

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Speaker 4: Feel like with anything that you know in involves the

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Speaker 4: reps and repetition. Any any new environment just requires perhaps

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Speaker 4: a repetition to adapting to get better and to be

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Speaker 4: able to go out there and play at high level.

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Speaker 4: For me, and I think definitely just off of the year,

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Speaker 4: you know, time I've spent you know, a little bit

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Speaker 4: of game experience I have now and you know, obviously

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Speaker 4: you know, playing close to the ball. You know, I

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Speaker 4: feel like the comfortability continues to grow every rep I take,

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Speaker 4: every game I play, and just trying to continue to

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Speaker 4: be better.

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Speaker 1: How are things different this year under this defense with

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Speaker 1: lou An Arumo. I don't necessarily mean to sit here

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Speaker 1: and compare and contrast to a year ago. But but

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Speaker 1: what is it about lou Anarumo's defense that is of

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Speaker 1: like to you? I guess And what was, if anything,

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Speaker 1: the biggest learning curve of it?

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Speaker 4: I would say, you know, just a whole lot of different,

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Speaker 4: you know, things we do on defense. You know, definitely

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Speaker 4: other things a little more aggressive, but at the end

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Speaker 4: of the day, just you know, great teaching and fundamentals,

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Speaker 4: great teaching and technique, overall accountability and just you know,

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Speaker 4: make sure we play sound defensive football. So I enjoyed

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Speaker 4: being coached by lou and Chris and coach coach wrong.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: One of the Nick one of the things about this defense,

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Speaker 1: Nick Cross of the Colts is our guest Colts now

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Speaker 1: two to zero after they win yesterday against Denver. From

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Speaker 1: the outside, when it comes to Lou Anarumo and his

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Speaker 1: defensive scheme. One of the things that is often said

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Speaker 1: is that there's a lot of I guess I'll use

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Speaker 1: the term stunt for lack of a lot of masking, right,

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Speaker 1: like trying to confuse an offense by presenting one look

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Speaker 1: and then playing something completely different and attacking from a

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Speaker 1: different area. Is that number one a fair assessment of

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Speaker 1: what you guys are doing? And number two, is it

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Speaker 1: challenging if that's the case to line up one way

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Speaker 1: and then run something completely different in a quote unquote

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Speaker 1: junk style.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I would say, I mean, at the end

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Speaker 4: of the day, for life, you know, present a lot

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Speaker 4: of different looks and everything, but you know, the end

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Speaker 4: of days about Dubinio playbook, you.

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Speaker 5: Know where you fit on your role in the defense and.

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Speaker 4: Being able to you know, Lou always said, never let

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Speaker 4: your disguise get you out of your job. So it's

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Speaker 4: just knowing where you're supposed to be at and playing

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Speaker 4: playing at a high level.

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Speaker 1: You know, the defensive backfield. I've always said, Nick, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna give you a line I've said on

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Speaker 1: the radio. Okay, I've always said that defensive backs and

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Speaker 1: offensive Lineman. The two areas on a football team that

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Speaker 1: are like cell phone chargers and sunglasses. You can never

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Speaker 1: have too many, just because there's attrition that takes place,

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Speaker 1: injury takes place, you know, rhythm, et cetera. And for

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Speaker 1: that reason, we've already seen it with with the corners, okay,

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Speaker 1: for you and your just the room in general. How

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Speaker 1: how much is familiarity with your teammates important in terms

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Speaker 1: of solidarity of what it is that you want to

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Speaker 1: do as a unit.

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Speaker 4: I think it's important. You know, you play with the

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Speaker 4: same guys. You get it from Ail already, I'm being

597
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 4: able to communicate better. You know each other's playing style,

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Speaker 4: so you can play off.

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Speaker 2: Of each other.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's just one of those things where

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Speaker 4: you know that the more you learn, the more you

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Speaker 4: play with somebody, the more familiar you get, and the

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Speaker 4: more the more you play with them.

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Speaker 1: And having said that, you know, obviously you saw you

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Speaker 1: have right before you in the corners a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys that you are not overly familiar playing with, right

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Speaker 1: because of the situation that I just talked about with attrition,

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Speaker 1: How many games do you need to play as a

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Speaker 1: unit before you really do have a firm, instinctive understanding

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Speaker 1: of your teammate.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that this is a set number or

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Speaker 4: anything like that. I think that you know, just like

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Speaker 4: I said, a rection of petition is factic games. Walk,

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Speaker 4: you know, a film room, or you play with somebody.

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Speaker 4: The more you you know, communicate with them, the more

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Speaker 4: that y'all you know, watch each other, want tight sher

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Speaker 4: to operate, the better off think, the better things will be.

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Speaker 1: Now I'd like to know Nick, by the way, are

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Speaker 1: you in the locker room now?

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Speaker 5: Now? I'm a gonna walk.

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Speaker 1: Up, Okay, I was hoping like somebody was running past

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Speaker 1: yelling at you there, we're gonna throw them on. How

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Speaker 1: much fun is it yesterday? I mean, just the overall

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Speaker 1: energy of that building, Schrader having to hit a kick,

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Speaker 1: that big getting carried off, just all of it. How

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Speaker 1: much fun did you have yesterday?

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Speaker 2: That was definitely a lot of fun.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like you have a lot of

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Speaker 4: fun anytime you able to go play the game on Sundays.

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Speaker 4: You know, opportunities don't get taken for granted. But it

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Speaker 4: was great to, you know, go down to the wire

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Speaker 4: and have an exciting game like that. Denver, they are

633
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Speaker 4: really good team and really good players on the coach

634
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Speaker 4: really well. So just to be able to go all

635
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Speaker 4: the way down to the wire and come out with

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Speaker 4: the victory, it's really special.

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Speaker 1: Who are the leaders on your team? Like, who are

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Speaker 1: the guys that you look towards that when they I

639
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: always say guys that when they walk in the locker room,

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Speaker 1: everybody kind of stops to see just what the overall

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Speaker 1: mood is and whatever else. Give me two or three guys, I.

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Speaker 4: Say, you know Quintosa on see Buck, the have've done

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Speaker 4: it for a high level, at a high level for

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Speaker 4: a long time. You know you were you know someone

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Speaker 4: like you know Mooney and the egg Zag and they've

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Speaker 4: just gotten here in camp. The guys who's gotten here,

647
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Speaker 4: but you know they've been playing at a high time

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Speaker 4: where they've been at before. So it's good to see

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Speaker 4: those guys and watch how they operate on a day

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Speaker 4: day basis.

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Speaker 1: I think I've asked you this before, Nick, Nick Cross,

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Speaker 1: our guest. Oftentimes when I have a player on, I

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Speaker 1: will ask them the most famous person that came out

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Speaker 1: of their high school. I have no idea how or

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Speaker 1: why I began asking this question, but I think this

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Speaker 1: is a fair statement, and I want your your thought

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Speaker 1: on this. I don't know that any player in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: if everybody was talking about like just overall athletic departments

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Speaker 1: of their high school and alma mater and in the

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Speaker 1: list of greatness that's come out of it, is there

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Speaker 1: anybody that could trump do matha Catholic high school in Maryland.

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Speaker 4: Nah, I don't think anybody. Anybody comes close to it.

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Speaker 4: From football and basketball, any any sport, you name it.

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Speaker 4: You know, we got guys who are going on to

665
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Speaker 4: do it at a high level, just not just at

666
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Speaker 4: the college level, but at the pro level. So you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't think I think we we go toe to

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Speaker 4: toe and or a lot greater in that category than

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Speaker 4: than majority of schools.

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable now, So I'd like to know this for you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've had Derek Wittenberg on this show before

672
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Speaker 1: the the you know, the NC State hero. You know

673
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Speaker 1: he's he's out of there obviously. You know darra Vstaff

674
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Speaker 1: was a great basketball player, out of there. Jerry and

675
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Speaker 1: Grant's out of there. I mean, just on and on

676
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Speaker 1: and on, especially when you just look at the pipeline

677
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Speaker 1: to Maryland in general, and the same as a long

678
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Speaker 1: list of football guys. Who was the hero for you,

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Speaker 1: Who was the one that set in the path for

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Speaker 1: you that you looked at and you said, you know what,

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Speaker 1: this is what I want to do is play at

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Speaker 1: that level.

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Speaker 5: I would say you talked to the Matthews talking in general.

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Speaker 1: At the math that when you were a kid growing up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean the guy that you that maybe took you

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Speaker 1: under the wing, or just that you looked at and

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Speaker 1: you really looked up to because you knew that you

688
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Speaker 1: were going to go on the same path.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I would say, you know, I played with Tayse Young,

690
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Speaker 6: you know, Chase with the you know, four or five

691
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Speaker 6: five star other American coming out of high school.

692
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Speaker 5: My first year on varsity. He was a senior.

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Speaker 4: So just seeing how he operated, how he came to

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Speaker 4: work every single.

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Speaker 6: Day, and and and being able to watch him work

696
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Speaker 6: and watch him do his thing, and just watching his climb.

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Speaker 6: You know, it was really special to me because you're

698
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Speaker 6: not played with my shirts locking him. I shirt the

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Speaker 6: field with him.

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Speaker 5: You know, another guy who I looked up to was

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Speaker 5: you know, riding him cloud.

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Speaker 6: You know, I always joke a rod whenever I see

703
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Speaker 6: him like, you know, my first ever football camp, you know,

704
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Speaker 6: was your camp. I was thirteen years old. I want

705
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Speaker 6: your camp, and you know, to be able to play

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Speaker 6: with him, my roofie year. Of course he always doesn't

707
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Speaker 6: make him feel old, but you know, it was always

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Speaker 6: fund to joke around about that. Those are the guys

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Speaker 6: who you know, of course, a whole bunch of guys

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Speaker 6: who came through Damata, you know, played hard and do

711
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Speaker 6: what they're supposed to and now were playing at a

712
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Speaker 6: high level and continuing only upset the pass.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, definitely Chase, definitely, Robert Clout you.

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Speaker 1: Guys like that now from a bast Did you play

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Speaker 1: basketball at all.

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Speaker 5: Growing up? In middle school? Not in high school?

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Speaker 1: Because Markel Foltz, who was the number one player taking

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Speaker 1: in the draft, right, I think I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you crossed over with him. Hunter Dickinson also, was there

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Speaker 1: either of those guys there when you were there?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Markel I was a freshman. Marquel was there, and

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Speaker 6: I remember, you know, very famously. You know he would

723
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Speaker 6: I remember you he saw me at the snack station

724
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Speaker 6: one time and you know, gave me a couple of

725
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Speaker 6: dollars to go get like Ora Miguel or something like that.

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Speaker 6: You know, so he was really down there, really down

727
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Speaker 6: to earth as a person, you know, and everybody knew

728
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Speaker 6: at that point, you know, after his year at Washington

729
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Speaker 6: he was gonna go be a lottery pick number one overall.

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Speaker 6: So you know, just showed the type of guys that

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Speaker 6: came through Damatha. Yeah, Hunter of the year, younger at

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Speaker 6: you a lot you know, now, all Hunter, you know,

733
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Speaker 6: great guy, great, great guy in the community, great basketball player,

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Speaker 6: and you know you've a better person.

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Speaker 1: You could have waited one more year till you were sophomore.

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Speaker 1: Markel could have bought you the entire Romen factory as

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Speaker 1: a matter of fact, right, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, absolutely probably bought me a lot more too.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Nick. Lastly, Nick Cross, our guest, really really good

740
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Speaker 1: game yesterday for the Colts who are now two and zero.

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Speaker 1: If you could, as you guys now get set for

742
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Speaker 1: a divisional game against Tennessee, for our listeners and for

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Speaker 1: Colts fans, can you just kind of give me an

744
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Speaker 1: explanation of the level of optimism and just the overall mood,

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Speaker 1: let's say, now through two games as opposed to the uncertainty.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps at the beginning of the season.

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Speaker 4: I think you know, at this point we are we are,

748
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Speaker 4: We're just proving to ourselves. But we already knew, you know,

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Speaker 4: I always go.

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Speaker 6: And you know I've always heard you know, You're not

751
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Speaker 6: not here to prove everybody else wrong. You're just here

752
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Speaker 6: to prove yourself right, prove to yourself, prove to your

753
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Speaker 6: teammates that you are the team, you are the players

754
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Speaker 6: that you say you want to be, and that you

755
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Speaker 6: are you say you are. So I think we just,

756
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Speaker 6: you know, Folcus, on the process of continuing to get better.

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Speaker 6: You know every single day, queen of the things that

758
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Speaker 6: we miss in the game, and you know, just taking

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Speaker 6: one day at a time, you know, not looking forward

760
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Speaker 6: down the road. You know, seventeen seventeen round boxing matches,

761
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Speaker 6: you know who's playing in this season, and you know,

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Speaker 6: at the end of the day, we're now, we're we're

763
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Speaker 6: through two rounds, you got round three coming up, and

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Speaker 6: you know, it's just one of those things you just

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Speaker 6: got to take one round at the time until.

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Speaker 5: You look up and you where you want to be.

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Speaker 1: Hey other side of the ball, I realized, but obviously

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Speaker 1: you would be, you know, watching them from especially a

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Speaker 1: really good perspective back there from the safety spot. Your

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Speaker 1: overall impressions, Nick, of Daniel Jones and as well Tyler Warren.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Daniels.

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Speaker 6: You know a real good guy, you know, great a

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Speaker 6: guy in locker room, you know, very efficient, you know,

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Speaker 6: very very.

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Speaker 5: Methodical the way he goes about his business. And you

776
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Speaker 5: know I enjoy watching him play.

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Speaker 6: You know, you know someone I'll go against the practice

778
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Speaker 6: a lot, and you know someone electric with the ball

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Speaker 6: in his hand, has a great feel out there already.

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Speaker 6: You know, I'm excited to continue to watch them, and.

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Speaker 5: You know that due will go and do that.

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Speaker 1: Nick Cross, the safety for the Colts of course, getting

783
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Speaker 1: set now for Tennessee, so you kind of turn the

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Speaker 1: page to get ready for that one. After the win

785
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Speaker 1: yesterday against the Denver Broncos. Nick, a pleasure as always, man.

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Speaker 1: We wish you the best of luck, look forward to

787
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: talking to you again, and certainly best of luck in

788
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 1: trying to start out three.

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Speaker 5: And oh sounds good. Appreciate it, Thank you all.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Nick Cross joining us on the program.

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Speaker 1: The former terp from Maryland,