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Speaker 1: They are in the City of Brotherly Love, are they not, Eddie?

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Speaker 1: But back to the Colts and Seattle. The one thing

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Speaker 1: go into what does go into the Heisman voting. We'll

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Speaker 1: get into that. We'll do it all with mac Engle

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Speaker 1: for the Fort Worth Star Telegram when we come back.

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Speaker 1: It is quearying company here. You're listening to it ninety

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Speaker 1: three five and one oh seventy five the Fan. In fact,

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Speaker 1: as the Colts are set to go to Seattle, they

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Speaker 1: find out Philip Rivers is still alive. We're going to

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Speaker 1: find out whether or not that is true of his

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Speaker 1: throwing arm and viability as an NFL quarterback. Colts and Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: I love the Seattle music of the nineties. Coming up

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, By the way, remind you, folks Chicago's Pizza

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Speaker 1: you got time right now another hour or so to

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Speaker 1: get in for the always awesome lunch buffet at Chicago's

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Speaker 1: Pizza eighteen Central Indiana locations, twenty five statewide. Chicago's Pizza

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Speaker 1: dot Com where you can find a location near you.

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Speaker 3: But think about it.

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Speaker 1: Traditional Cruss pizza, deep dish pizza, salad bar with all

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Speaker 1: the fixings, every dressing that you would want, the breadsticks,

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Speaker 1: the dessert pizza, all available to you with the soft

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Speaker 1: drink for just thirteen bucks thirteen dollars. You're driving past

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Speaker 1: some janky fast food joint right now, you're gonna pay

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Speaker 1: more than that for that. Why not go to the

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Speaker 1: place that not only is from right here in Central Indiana,

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Speaker 1: but gives back to the community as well. We've told

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Speaker 1: you about all the things they do for the holidays

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Speaker 1: for people throughout Central Indiana. Chicago's Pizza a story in

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Speaker 1: every slice, Chicago's Pizza dot Com Joining me now on

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Speaker 1: the Java House Peel and Poor Guest line. He is

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Speaker 1: with the fort Worst Star Telegram. He is the pride

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Speaker 1: of North Central High School and the North side of Indianapolis. Macingle,

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Speaker 1: who is a Heisman voter Mac. Is it too late

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Speaker 1: to bribe you?

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Speaker 7: I never, Jake. I want to make this real clear

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Speaker 7: to you, all of your listeners, all of the great

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Speaker 7: people of my home state, Central Indiana. It is never

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Speaker 7: too late to write me fair enough, But I want

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Speaker 7: to go back to. I want to go back to

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Speaker 7: that pizza. Did you say.

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Speaker 1: Twelve dollars thirteen bucks? Thirteen dollars? Lunch buffet? Can't beat it, don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't even know how you do. They're like, how

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Speaker 7: do they make money on that?

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Speaker 1: I know, I mean honestly like that. And how about

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Speaker 1: the twenty five dollars family meal deal? Mack, you got

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Speaker 1: a family, you get two medium, one topping pizzas and

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Speaker 1: breadsticks for twenty five bucks.

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Speaker 3: In today's climbing ki.

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Speaker 7: Met economy, ihing hits the economy, I know, amazing.

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Speaker 3: Chicago's you I could.

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Speaker 7: Do the entire segment on that. You want to just

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Speaker 7: do that? Maybe you up for a couple of years.

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Speaker 3: I like that, Nothing wrong with that, right.

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Speaker 1: Chicago's Pizza dot com mac they got eighteen locations in

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Speaker 1: Cijorondiana maybe soon one in four worth.

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Speaker 7: As well possible.

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Speaker 8: How do they do that?

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Speaker 3: I know?

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Speaker 1: That's you know what, every dollar that you spend on

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Speaker 1: the lunch buffet and there's still five more bucks it

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Speaker 1: would cost you to get to all the Central Indiana locations,

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Speaker 1: eighteen of them, right.

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Speaker 7: That's amazing. I just like the fact that we can

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Speaker 7: sit here and take a reader and then stretch it

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Speaker 7: into the next segment. I hope you get a kickback

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Speaker 7: on that, brother.

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Speaker 1: Listen Mac in all honesty. One of the things I

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Speaker 1: love about Central Indiana. And I've mentioned this before. When

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Speaker 1: Chicago's Pizza, when we first started a partnership with them,

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Speaker 1: and this is one of the few places that has

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Speaker 1: done this, they were like, we want you to come

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Speaker 1: down and meet the owner and operator of every location.

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Speaker 1: And so I went down and I actually met the

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Speaker 1: owner and operator of all twenty five statewide locations, just

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Speaker 1: because they wanted me to get to know them as people.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know what I'm in. Once I

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Speaker 1: met them as people, I'm like, I'm in.

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Speaker 3: So I love it. Yes, I would do an entire second.

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Speaker 7: That's great. I did that one time. I people don't

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Speaker 7: understand North, should they? When I was on radio before

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Speaker 7: I got fired, I did.

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Speaker 8: I was like, oh, no, I was.

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Speaker 7: I was fired, and the guy wanted to say, oh,

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Speaker 7: it's just part of the corporate cutbacks. I'm like, no,

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Speaker 7: it's not. You fired me. You hired somebody who replaced

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Speaker 7: me to here like as eighteen months later because he

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Speaker 7: didn't like my attitude or whatever it was. So I

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Speaker 7: did like a reader for a car dealership here in

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Speaker 7: Dallas Fort Worth. Really nice guy, and I tried to

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Speaker 7: do it, and I thought I was doing a good job.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't believe the money.

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Speaker 7: Oh my god. It was like I didn't even do

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Speaker 7: anything and I just get these checks. So finally and

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Speaker 7: I met the guy, had had lunch when he's a

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Speaker 7: great guy, really liked him.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Then they fired him, and I swear to god, it

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Speaker 7: was like I lost a family member.

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Speaker 8: Exact rather, I say.

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Speaker 7: That, I think he was probably he meant more to

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Speaker 7: me than some of the members of my Damn.

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Speaker 3: Now, hold on, did you get fired because you took

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Speaker 3: a bribe?

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Speaker 7: No? Good question?

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Speaker 5: Though?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 7: That good question? No I got and all honesty, and

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Speaker 7: you know this has happened to you, and I don't

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Speaker 7: make light of it. I remember the day I got

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Speaker 7: fired because when the guy called me, I could tell

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Speaker 7: about the tone in his voice. Hey, Mac, do you

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Speaker 7: got a minute? Nothing ever followed, Nothing good ever follows,

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Speaker 7: Hey we need to talk. You got a minute? Closed

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Speaker 7: the door, none of that. And I immediately and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 7: I'm getting fired, And I did. I got fired and

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Speaker 7: the relief I felt was enormous because I was doing

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Speaker 7: morning drive and you give up years of your life

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Speaker 7: if you do morning drive.

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Speaker 3: In media, which it's tough.

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Speaker 7: I mean no, I mean I just like you have

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Speaker 7: the greatest time slot in the world. But so I did,

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Speaker 7: and I know it was not because I wouldn't take

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Speaker 7: a bribe. And that's why I'm open arms about it.

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Speaker 7: You can find me on t angles start telling them

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Speaker 7: do you want me anything? Instagram all that stuff, and

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Speaker 7: I'm happy to take your money in exchange for virtually anything.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so let's get to this.

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Speaker 1: You obviously did not take money when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the Heisman voting, but you are a Heisman voter, correct.

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Speaker 7: Correct, that is correct? Okay, that great honor and distinction.

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Speaker 1: How many different and I'm asking this for the sake

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Speaker 1: of the understanding of it or comparing contrast any different

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Speaker 1: like prestigious sports awards are.

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Speaker 3: Do you vote for two?

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Speaker 7: I voted for a couple others. I vote for the

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Speaker 7: Baseball Hall of Fame. Okay, just actually coincident, I just

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Speaker 7: finished my ballot and the Heisman Trophy, and I used

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Speaker 7: to when I was covering Major League Baseball However, many

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Speaker 7: years ago I voted for the say Young voted for MVP,

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Speaker 7: I think, and I have voted for some other college

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Speaker 7: awards I don't really remember, but currently the only ones

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Speaker 7: I do now are Heisman Trophy and Baseball Hall.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Baseball Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: When you vote for that, are you allowed to immediately

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Speaker 1: release what you're voting was?

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Speaker 7: Yes? In fact, I'll probably do it. I'll take a

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Speaker 7: screenshot of it, put it on social media. And what

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Speaker 7: I have found is that I will immediately get killed

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Speaker 7: by seamheads.

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Speaker 3: Did you vote for Dale Murphy?

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Speaker 7: It was not on my ballot, but I would have

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Speaker 7: he was now he was on the RUSHOL Veterans Committee ballot, gotcha?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I didn't realize.

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Speaker 1: So there are different ballots for different voting groups basically.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so just you know if your listeners, and what

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Speaker 7: they do is if the ballot that I'm currently voting

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Speaker 7: on is for active Baseball Hall of Fame voters for

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Speaker 7: the active ballot, and then if a person falls off

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Speaker 7: that ballot, if they get there on it for I

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Speaker 7: think ten years, Jake, and if they don't get voted

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Speaker 7: in that ten years, then they get considered for the

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Speaker 7: Veterans Committee, and then that's a small group of former players,

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Speaker 7: maybe a couple members of the media. It's a small group,

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Speaker 7: and then they evaluate let's say six or eight people

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Speaker 7: and decide whether or not that person should be a

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Speaker 7: Hall of Famer. It's like it's like a last chance,

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Speaker 7: so to speak, right, And you could have knocked me

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Speaker 7: over with the lightest feather when Jeff Kent got in

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Speaker 7: in Dale Murphy or Done Maddingly, I would have vot.

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Speaker 7: I still can't believe Don Maddenley's not in. So that

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Speaker 7: was really bunn you know. I really wanted it for

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Speaker 7: those guys, but they didn't get in, and Jeff Kent did,

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Speaker 7: and I had no saying that whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's get so obviously, for the Baseball Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame balloting, you get a ballot and it are

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Speaker 1: you is there a maximum like, for example, the only

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Speaker 1: thing that I vote for the Auto Racing Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Motors Speed with Auto Racing Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: And with that I get a ballot and then it

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Speaker 1: tells me it has all of the candidates, and I'm

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Speaker 1: told and it's different by year, the maximum number that

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Speaker 1: I can vote for for entry. Is that the same

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Speaker 1: way it works for Major League Baseball? Or can you

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Speaker 1: check every box if you want to?

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Speaker 7: I could check every busy they and you do see

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Speaker 7: some guys on there who vote a lot of guys in,

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Speaker 7: and they do for a variety of reasons. I noticed

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Speaker 7: this last time, I voted two steroid users in. I

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Speaker 7: had never done that before, and this time, I'm like,

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Speaker 7: you got to give me a break. You got all

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Speaker 7: these other guys, You got managers who bloated wins totals

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Speaker 7: based on guys who loaded up on steroids. Tony LaRue said,

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Speaker 7: Dusty Baker. You got I know, I know a couple

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Speaker 7: of those players who were voted in the last couple

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Speaker 7: of cycles for obvious steroid users. They didn't get caught,

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Speaker 7: but we knew they were. And many Ramirez is on.

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Speaker 7: Many Ramirez got popped a couple of times. Alex Rodriguez

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Speaker 7: got suspended a year. I covered Alex one of the years.

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Speaker 7: It was so obvious he was juicing. But I'm like,

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Speaker 7: if all these other guys are getting in, then I'm like,

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Speaker 7: then then I'm the worst kind of I'm an even

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Speaker 7: bigger hippocrite than I normally am so I put them

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Speaker 7: I voted them in. They're not going to get in,

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Speaker 7: but I voted for him.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So Heisman voting, how does it work? Do you

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Speaker 1: do you get just tell me, I mean, do you

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Speaker 1: get a ballot with a restricted number of names? Do

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Speaker 1: you just get a blank piece of paper and you

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Speaker 1: write down one through five? How does voting work for

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Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy? Because obviously Fernanda Mendoza of Indiana is

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Speaker 1: a front runner. It would seem for the Heisman tomorrow night.

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Speaker 7: So the Baseball Hall of Fame send you, send you

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Speaker 7: an old school ballot with piece of paper. You in

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Speaker 7: an envelope and mail it to Cooperston, New York. The

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Speaker 7: Heisman Trophy is all done online. You fill out this form,

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Speaker 7: they send you the link, You put some stuff on it.

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Speaker 7: Then they send you some dual authentic cater thing just

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Speaker 7: to make sure you're you and not a robot or

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Speaker 7: a botty anything like that, And then they give you

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Speaker 7: you vote for three people and you type in the

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Speaker 7: name manually. It doesn't give you like a roster of names.

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Speaker 7: You type in the name, you type in first place,

655
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Speaker 7: then you type in second place, and then you type

656
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Speaker 7: in third place, hit submit, and that's it. And I

657
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 7: don't know if you've said this or not. I'm not allowed.

658
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 7: Voters aren't allowed to say who they voted for until

659
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 7: after the announcement is made. They want to keep some

660
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 7: mystery to the event tomorrow night. But to me, and

661
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 7: I've only done it for a couple of years, to me,

662
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 7: I have noticed certainly the flaw in it, and that

663
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 7: is it's this criticism is not new. It's basically become

664
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 7: a quarterback award, And I get it, I mean, but

665
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 7: there's just so many great players to review. And I

666
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 7: think when you talked about Fernando Mendoza, I can't say

667
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 7: who I voted for, but I think he would be

668
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 7: a very very worthy recipient, especially in light of the

669
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 7: great season, historic season that Indiana has had.

670
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 3: How much mac is it suggested.

671
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: Or is it personal voter preference in terms of the

672
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 1: character or the conduct or the perception of a player

673
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: as a teammate and et cetera. Not that And that's

674
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: not to say that the other guy you know that's saying,

675
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: or the quarterback of Vanderbilt or whatever are not of

676
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: the same category, right, But obviously Indiana has done a

677
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: concerted effort here to kind of get Mendoza out there

678
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: and see the kind of person that he is. Does

679
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: that stuff in any way, shape or form impact you

680
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: think voting?

681
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 7: It used to be a big deal, Jake, Like when

682
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 7: we were younger. I used to work in college athletics

683
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 7: for athletic departments, and we would go through those discussions

684
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 7: and then you spend the money on promoting a kid

685
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 7: for an award because if the kid wins the award,

686
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 7: the university gets the exposure, which is what this is

687
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 7: all about anyways, is exposing exposure and visibility and marketing.

688
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 7: And there before really before the Internet, before social media

689
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 7: platforms like Instagram and TikTok and Facebook and Twitter and

690
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 7: all that, you know, Oh yeah, those things were absolutely

691
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 7: a big deal. Now I get nothing. Last year, Colorado

692
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 7: did something with Travis Hunter and Shadur standards and they

693
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 7: did it because they were Dion's pets. And you know,

694
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 7: Travis Hunter was an amazing player, amazing player, and he

695
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 7: won the award. Can you say all that marketing effort

696
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 7: is as a result that his all that marketing effort worked, Yeah,

697
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 7: I guess he won the award. To me, it was

698
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 7: always about getting into New York City. If you got

699
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 7: to New York, then you got the exposure.

700
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: And when mac let me ask this when they come

701
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: down to it, because this is the part where I'm confused.

702
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 1: Mac Ingle's my guest by the way, Jaba house Piel

703
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: andport guest line. He's with the fort worst star Telegram

704
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: and votes for the Heisman. Fernanda Mendoza of Indiana a

705
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: clear frontrunning favorite. I think for the Heisman it will

706
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: be announced tomorrow night when they announce like a week ago, Hey,

707
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: here are the finalists. Does so that has no impact

708
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,959
Speaker 1: on who you were allowed to vote for, right, because

709
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: I think the perception for people is okay, they've narrowed

710
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 1: down to these four people for mac Engle and everyone

711
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: else to vote for.

712
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 7: No, so they've changed it. It used to be the

713
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 7: Heisman Trophy window to vote was it started like the

714
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 7: Monday after the final regular season game. And what they

715
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 7: found was a couple of years ago when Caleb Williams

716
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 7: of USC one he won it over TCU quarterback Max Duggan.

717
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 7: Is that not enough voters or too many voters were

718
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 7: submitting their ballots before the conference title games, and the

719
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 7: thought was had they waited or you had not been

720
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 7: allowed to vote. Maybe Max Duggan who had a great

721
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 7: game in the Big Twelve championship game, and Caleb Williams

722
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 7: had a dog in the Big Twelve title game I

723
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 7: think against Utah maximidle one. I don't know, but that

724
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 7: was a thought. So then the Heisman Trophy decided, Okay,

725
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 7: we're going to not open the window until later and

726
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 7: there that way, everybody has to take the conference championship

727
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 7: games into account, so that would say it was open

728
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 7: from then.

729
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: Do you think mac people would just take it down

730
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: to the conference championship game? In other words, do you

731
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: think there were people when it comes to Julian Saying

732
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: and Bernana Mendozo, they were like, I'm just gonna watch

733
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: this one game and base it on that as opposed

734
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 1: to the titality of the season.

735
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 7: No, and I no, I don't think that. I think

736
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 7: it's a popularity contest if I'm being honest, and it's

737
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 7: it's hard. I think most people are going off what

738
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 7: other people said or what they saw in College game

739
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 7: Day or big noon kickoff of the big games that

740
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 7: they saw. I don't think the Big Twelve champion pardon

741
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 7: me the Big Ten Title Game. Now, let me back

742
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 7: that up. I think that Big Ten Title Game, if

743
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 7: it was close, pushed Mendoza over the line. And I

744
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 7: don't know this, I'm not saying who I voted for,

745
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 7: but that game changed a lot of opinions. So if

746
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 7: people were sitting there thinking about Diego Pavi or whatever else,

747
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 7: I think Mendoza were like, oh, well, look at this,

748
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 7: We've got another data point. Look at the game he played.

749
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 7: Look at the interview that he gave. How charming that

750
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 7: was in final Like two seconds after the game ends, Jake,

751
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 7: You're like, oh my god, this is the this is

752
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,720
Speaker 7: the greatest college kid I've seen in my life.

753
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 3: Now, Mac, if you won the Heisman, where would you

754
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 3: put it?

755
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 7: Like in my house?

756
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 5: No?

757
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: I mean if you won the Heisman Trophy. If you know,

758
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: twenty two year old mc engle wins the Heisman Trophy

759
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: and they give you this big, huge trophy and then

760
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: you leave New York and youet like, where would what

761
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: would you do with it?

762
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 3: Where would you display?

763
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 7: Back of the toilet? Back of the toilet.

764
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 3: It probably is a little porcelain, isn't it.

765
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 7: I heard the story Kate Winslet wins an oscar. She

766
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 7: wins an oscar, and she put it in her bathroom,

767
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 7: like the guest bathroom of the hall bathroom. And she

768
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 7: did it so anybody who went and used it could

769
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 7: hold it and give an acceptance speech in front of

770
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 7: the mirror. And I was like, man, what a great

771
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 7: thing to do for people. So mcgrant. The Heisman's obviously

772
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 7: a lot bigger, more obnoxious award, but I always thought

773
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 7: that was like the most charming thing ever. It's not

774
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 7: just not in the middle of the living room, it's

775
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 7: not in a shrine. It's like someplace where everybody in

776
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 7: that house can see and touch it and enjoy it.

777
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: So Mac, let's just say this hypothetically and conclusion, if

778
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 1: you had won the Heisman Trophy in nineteen ninety five,

779
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: Mac Ingle of the University of Kansas, where you were

780
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: attading you win the Heisman Trophy, let's just say, because

781
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: you're a nice guy, that you want your parents to

782
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: have it on their mantles, so you send it back

783
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: to your parents' house in Indianapolis, Indiana. Does that mean

784
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 1: that the nineteen ninety five Heisman Trophy and the twenty

785
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: twenty five Heisman Trophy would have in common that both

786
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: of them were living in the state of Indiana.

787
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 8: Yeah.

788
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 7: I think that's a pretty good conclusion, Jake.

789
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: All right, Mac, I appreciate it, have a wonderful weekend

790
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: and enjoy covering those cowboys.

791
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 7: All right, all right, Jake, thanks a lot. I look

792
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 7: forward to that pizza.

793
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 8: We want to get back there.

794
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 3: You go, Chicago's Pizza. We'll hit it.

795
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: Chicago's Pizza dot com macingle fort Worth Star Telegram. We

796
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: come back, We'll get back into what is the area

797
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: or the player of importance on Sunday for the Colts

798
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: that perhaps we haven't talked enough about. I'll tell you

799
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: that next. You know that right there, that alone tells

800
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: you the story in saga of some of the signings

801
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: of Colts quarterback of years past. Right as the Colts

802
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: get set for Seattle, Eddie Garrison spinning up grun Seattle

803
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: hits all day. I mentioned yesterday Ricky Turner, one of

804
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 1: the more bizarre Colts quarterback signings mid season, Speaking of concrete,

805
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: he was driving a cement truck when Ron Meyer called

806
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: and said, Hey, you want to come play for the

807
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: Colts and run the wishbone?

808
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 3: And so they did. I think they went.

809
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: Two and one with Ricky Turner never started, but he

810
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: took some snaps. They ran the wishbone with him. It

811
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: is freezing outside, but it will not be in Seattle.

812
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: I think mid fifties. But overcast is what we're looking

813
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: for in the Pacific Northwest this weekend. But even flow

814
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: if you're in the even flow in offense, when you

815
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: think of Philip Rivers and a player that could continue

816
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: to allow him to be in flow. Steve Steve Perry,

817
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: by the way, I don't know if it's Steve Perry

818
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: from Journey, but Steve Perry says on the ex post Twitter, Jake,

819
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: if you believe Rivers is a good idea, your nuts.

820
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: The Colts are a c F with Ballard in charge.

821
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: The last part of that's maybe a little extreme, but

822
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: Steve Perry, clearly I'm not even gonna say, don't stop believing,

823
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: because clearly he never started. When it comes to Philip Rivers, Steve,

824
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you that this may turn out

825
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: to be a complete disaster.

826
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know.

827
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: Maybe I should come on here and have some hardline,

828
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: definitive opinion as to the way this is going to go,

829
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: but I don't know how it's going to go with

830
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. I know this, it's going to be theater

831
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: and I know this. It went from being a Pocatello

832
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: Penitentiary game to a game that's going to be muscy

833
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: for a lot of people. But in terms of the

834
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: flow of the offense, when you think about Philip Rivers

835
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: and the times that he was at his best in

836
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: San Diego, who's the player that you think about a lot. Yeah,

837
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 1: they had darren Sprolls and you know, some Colts Killers.

838
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: But one of the players that I think you think

839
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: the most about when you think of Philip Rivers' career

840
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: as Antonio Gates and Philip Rivers and the way that

841
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: he can. He is not a deep ball thrower, never

842
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: has been. But he is a rhythm even flow thrower

843
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: when he gets in the flow of an offense, and

844
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 1: in particular, if you look at what you would assume

845
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: is going to be the regression of the range of

846
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: his arm and you think about that Uncle Rico dropping

847
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: back now with the dad bod side arm sling. The

848
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: guy to me that becomes very important is Tyler Warren.

849
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: And I know that Tyler Warren was you know, he

850
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: was sick, he'd missed in practice going into the Jacksonville game,

851
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: and et cetera. But he is clearly Tyler Warren a

852
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: weapon for Indianapolis and has been, and they can put

853
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: him in different positions and situations. But I would it

854
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: would be my assumption, it would be my guess that

855
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: he is going to be a regular target for Philip

856
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: Rivers this weekend, or at least try to. Now Seattle

857
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: has to know that, and Seattle has to be kind

858
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: of loading up that box for Jonathan Taylor alone with

859
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 1: probably somebody coming up as a spy on Tyler Warren,

860
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 1: because you would think, yes, Michael Pittman Junr. Has been

861
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: a his career has been spent hanging out over the

862
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: middle and taking big hits and whatever else, and has

863
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: been a great workhorse in that regard. And then you

864
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: throw in Josh Downs that's kind of that floating amba

865
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: all over the place that can bail you out. But

866
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: I think Philip Rivers in his progressions, one of the

867
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: first progressions he's going to see, one of the first

868
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: options he's going to be going towards one of the

869
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: quick bailout things if they're not going to Jonathan Taylor,

870
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: it becomes Tyler Warren. I'm not sitting here saying the

871
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: guy's going to have twelve catches or he's gonna do

872
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: what we saw last night in Atlanta for Atlanta, but

873
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: I would think that they that Shane Stiken, by design

874
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: schematically is going to try to get him involved. And

875
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: what we have seen so far this year is that

876
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: he is a guy that absolutely has the skill set

877
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: and the ability to make plays for them.

878
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 4: All right, Jake, So I'm looking at one of the sportsbooks.

879
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 4: Tyler Warren thirty three and a half receiving yards. Oh over,

880
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 4: his total receptions is three and a half as well.

881
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 3: I'd go over on both, wouldn't you. Uncle Rico's is

882
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 3: one fifteen and a half on the passing yards.

883
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: If he goes let's say that Uncle Rico goes for

884
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy yards, doesn't it feel like forty

885
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: five of them would be to Tyler Warren fifty? I mean,

886
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: you know, I think they're going to target him more. Now,

887
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: how many I would It's really lofty to say a

888
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: tight end is going to get you know, six to

889
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 1: eight catches in the game. I mean in a normal flow,

890
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: in the normal even flow, that's not the case. But

891
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: it just feels like this is going to be different

892
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: right now, have they And I don't know, there is

893
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: one big question mark that could factor in on making

894
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: both of those really safe or one of those a

895
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 1: really safe bet, which I'll tell you on the other side.

896
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: And Pacers in action tonight still trying to kind of

897
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 1: find their footing, but it feels like maybe they've got

898
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: a little bit more solidarity about them than they did

899
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, at least in terms of

900
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: what it is that they're trying to do. And our

901
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: friend from the Indianapolis Star, Dustin is going to join

902
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: us next.

903
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 3: Here's the one if you were a.

904
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: Degenerate gambler, and I don't know, I'm not a degenerate gambler,

905
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: but as Eddie was mentioning, the fact that you, you know,

906
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: you can go on one of the sportsbooks and you know,

907
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: with any obviously, with player props and whatever else you do,

908
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: you go ahead and just automatically take the under on

909
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: passing yards for Philip Rivers based on the fact that

910
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: the Colts have not officially declared that he's starting the game.

911
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: I think we all know he's going to. I think

912
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: we all assume he's going to. But are they going

913
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: to mix in Riley Leonard at times? I don't think so,

914
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: But we don't know so just based and I have

915
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: no idea. I'm not degenerate enough to know. Like if

916
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: you play, let me ask you this, Eddie, if you

917
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: do a player prop on Philip Rivers and then he

918
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: doesn't start the game or he doesn't play at all,

919
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: that that's not a I mean, that doesn't negate it, right,

920
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: you still win, right. I think you're safe either way.

921
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: I think you're good to go in that regard. So

922
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 1: I think, without question we're going to get that word

923
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: definitively that it's going to be Philip Rivers, but they

924
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: have yet to make that official that much. We know

925
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: Pacers and Action tonight they're in Philadelphia, City of brother

926
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: of they love. Joining us now on the Java House,

927
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: a peel and poor guest line Jake twenty five. By

928
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: the way, the discount code for twenty five percent of

929
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: your order at Java House. Dustin from the Indianapolis Star

930
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: Joining us now on the program, Dustin, I'm going to

931
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: begin with this, and there's a reason that I'm going

932
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: to ask it this way. Did you ever see the

933
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: movie pulp Fiction? I'm going on the way back, I

934
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: realized you ever see pulp Fiction?

935
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 7: Yeah?

936
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, so.

937
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: Pulp fiction, as you know, and I was trying to

938
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: think of other movies that would fall into this category,

939
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: but pulp fiction is the first one I thought of.

940
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: If you recall when you saw pulp Fiction, it has

941
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: like these different storylines that all kind of intertwine, and

942
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: then it takes a while when you're watching the movie

943
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: to kind of figure out what's going on, right, and

944
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you're like, oh, I get it,

945
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: so that the guys bringing the watch Okay, now I

946
00:48:58,680 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: know what's going on.

947
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 3: Does this Pacer season feel like that to you?

948
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 2: I might feel that way at the end, you know,

949
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 2: you don't really that. That's the whole point of pulp

950
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: pictures that you don't know, you don't realize it until

951
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: you're several you know, several themes in where these things

952
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: are connecting. I mean, it could. I mean, because I

953
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 2: think you're looking at it now and seeing, Okay, well

954
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: this is closer.

955
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: To the team that they can be correct, Like that's

956
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: what I mean right, Like it's at the beginning of

957
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: the year, it was like what scene are we in here?

958
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: And now it's starting to would you agree that that

959
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: was my point? Right, it's starting to kind of muddy,

960
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: you know, be less money, right, yeah, I mean.

961
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 2: Well in some ways it's it's less money. In some

962
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 2: ways it's more money because then I think and now

963
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 2: you're looking at it and saying, okay, well the tank

964
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,439
Speaker 2: isn't is easy now, you know, like these this group

965
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 2: that you have right now, like you're you're not gonna

966
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 2: be able to run out Pascal Siakam, Ben Master and

967
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 2: Andrew nem Harden to expect those guys to lay down.

968
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: If your view is, if you're a view of the

969
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 2: mindset that you want a top three pick, uh, it's

970
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 2: becoming harder. I mean I think you look at it.

971
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: I mean, they they've beaten the Bulls twice and we

972
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 2: were just sitting there talking about it. Now after that

973
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 2: last game, I'm like, you know what, they're probably the

974
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 2: best lottery team in the East. You know, they're probably

975
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 2: the best out of that group right now in terms

976
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: of like how they actually play. I mean, because they've

977
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 2: they've beaten the Bulls twice and Bulls are eleven, you know,

978
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 2: like they've smacked the Wizards, you know, like I kind

979
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 2: of feel like you get them. You know, they obviously

980
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: lost to Brooklyn the team they had them, but that

981
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: was the team they had them. I mean, I don't

982
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 2: think they lose to Brooklyn with with the guys that

983
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 2: have now, you know, just they they just finally have

984
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 2: a functional group and it's good enough to give them

985
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 2: a puncher's chance a lot of nights and you're like, okay, well,

986
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 2: well what does that look like? I mean, how many

987
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 2: wins are we talking? And does that? Does that get you?

988
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: Is that you know, they still have a chance to

989
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 2: get you in the play in and I think they

990
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 2: have us shots, especially Milwaukee continues to struggle. If not,

991
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 2: I mean, are you're looking at them, say, you know,

992
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: finishing eleventh, is that a good idea? You know, like

993
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: as opposed to just you know, ripping it all down.

994
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 2: I mean not ripping it all down, but you know

995
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: in terms of just really chilling out as far as

996
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 2: winning games. But they are i mean, bottom line in

997
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 2: terms of like they are a team that you can

998
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 2: look at that is going to give you at least

999
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 2: an entertaining competitive basketball game most nights. I mean, they're

1000
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 2: not always gonna beat the best teams, but they're going

1001
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 2: to beat the worst teams, and they're gonna be competitive

1002
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: with teams that are middle of the road because you know,

1003
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 2: they just have enough pieces to play a basketball game,

1004
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 2: where there was periods in early November when they really

1005
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 2: really didn't.

1006
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: When you look right now, you know six and eighteen,

1007
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: they are second to last in the East, but it

1008
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 1: feels like of late that's a little bit disingenuous six

1009
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: and eighteen because of the obviously terrible start that got.

1010
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: I mean, they're still off to a terrible start, but

1011
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: you get what I'm saying, and you look at you know,

1012
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: say Charlotte Broplean, even the Bulls, it does feel like

1013
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: with a little solidarity and footing that the Pacers may

1014
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: get past them. What would you say is the win

1015
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: total that would be expected in order to get a

1016
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: play in game and get yourself out of the lottery.

1017
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I think you've got to get thirty eight,

1018
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 2: thirty nine, right, you know, like I mean, you've got

1019
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 2: you've got at least be the smith in five hundred now,

1020
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 2: you know, like the way things are shaken out, I

1021
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 2: mean it is lower that thresholds a little lower in

1022
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 2: the East right now, maybe that it has been so

1023
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 2: like maybe you could pull it off with thirty seven.

1024
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: So you're looking at thirty and twenty eight. I mean,

1025
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: they've got to be a five hundred team from here

1026
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: on out right, right, Yeah, realistic.

1027
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 2: Range maybe, I I mean it might be a little

1028
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 2: I mean, I think they're probably going to have to

1029
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 2: win some games they're not supposed to win, you know,

1030
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 2: like that if you're getting thirty, like, you're probably going

1031
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 2: to have to beat some good teams in there, you know,

1032
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 2: and they haven't proven they can beat a really good

1033
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 2: team yet. You know, they got Golden State, you know,

1034
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: which was a bit of a surprise. But I mean

1035
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 2: most of these last stretch of wins have been against

1036
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 2: you know, teams that are kind of rough, especially you know,

1037
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 2: like Chicago looks rough lately, you know, and so like

1038
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: that their records all right, but it's like all right,

1039
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 2: well that's that's that's a lottery teams. So you know,

1040
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 2: like to get to get thirty wins out of what's left,

1041
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 2: I mean, you are going to have to beat some

1042
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 2: people and I guess it's possible. And they still have

1043
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 2: an all star caliber player in Siakam. You know, they have,

1044
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 2: you know, a really talented second guy in Massa in

1045
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 2: a scenario where he gets to actually let loose and

1046
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 2: play and doesn't have to, you know, think about fitting

1047
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 2: into the grand er hole and you know, Namhart's a

1048
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 2: good piece and Colin's a good piece and eventually get

1049
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 2: the Smiths back and stuff like that, so that might

1050
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 2: be enough. So it's it's it's not likely, I mean,

1051
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 2: and but you know, like it, I would go with conceivable,

1052
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 2: conceivable before I say the word realistic.

1053
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 1: Do you feel like Dustin Benedict Madarin so far has

1054
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: taken advantage of the opportunity before him?

1055
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 2: I do, I think, And I think we talked about

1056
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 2: this probably the last time that I was on, But

1057
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 2: I like he is in a position where, I mean,

1058
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: I think you were going into this thinking, okay, well,

1059
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 2: can he prove that he's going to be a fit?

1060
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 2: You know, when Haliburton gets back and the way this

1061
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 2: is going, like, there is no way to you can't

1062
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 2: even pose that question. Basically, like you you cannot create

1063
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 2: a experiment within the current framework that allows you to

1064
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: learn anything about that question. But like you're you're just

1065
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 2: looking at him to see if he's growing up. Basically,

1066
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 2: if you're you're seeing him take another step in his

1067
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 2: maturity and his approach, uh and those kinds of things

1068
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 2: and doing what has to be done. You can't recreate

1069
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 2: what's going to have to be done later, you know.

1070
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: I think that's that was kind of an interesting thing.

1071
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 2: I think that Chadmick cans at the beginning of this

1072
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: year that well, he's got to learn how to, you know,

1073
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 2: for what he does to you know, make sure that

1074
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: it's affecting winning. And it's like, well, there's one thing,

1075
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 2: you know, him doing what it takes to win for

1076
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: you guys with this group now, you know, and it's

1077
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 2: a different thing for him to do what it takes

1078
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 2: to win with this group when you have Halliburton everybody

1079
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 2: else back. It's two different assignments from Mathurin he's executing

1080
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 2: the assignment as it is now. I mean, I think

1081
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 2: he's he is, you know, improving on defense. You know,

1082
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 2: you're seeing good efficiency on offense. He is, you know,

1083
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 2: he's maintaining that probably a little bit o for the

1084
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 2: top aggressiveness where he's sometimes driving into crowds and doing

1085
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: some of the things that Rick doesn't always wan him

1086
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 2: to do, but at this stage you need him to

1087
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 2: do that, Like you have to have someone who's aggressive

1088
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 2: in isolation, attacking off the dribble and maybe being a

1089
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 2: little bit wild with it right now, because there's just

1090
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 2: not a lot, not a lot of guys who can

1091
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 2: create offense and create gravity in that group and some

1092
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 2: master has just got to be able to put his

1093
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 2: you know, the head down, bullheaded, run to the rim

1094
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 2: type of stuff that sometimes gets out of whack, you know,

1095
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 2: and doesn't really fit in what they do with when

1096
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 2: Halliburton's really kicking the ball around. This is the kind

1097
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 2: of stuff you need now, Like someone has to create,

1098
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 2: someone has to make movement happen, and Mathon is doing that.

1099
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 2: I think. I'm not saying he's not out a perfect season,

1100
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 2: but I mean I think he is doing everything he

1101
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 2: can given the framework being what it is. Again, you

1102
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 2: can't recreate the experiment the way you want it to be.

1103
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 2: But he is at least, you know, he's clearly putting

1104
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 2: in a good faith effort I think to be as

1105
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 2: good for this team as he can think.

1106
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: It is my belief Dustin that Indiana will put I

1107
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: mean that Indian We'll take what they can get from

1108
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: Ben Mathen this year. Don't get me wrong, but it

1109
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: is my belief that they are still seeing it as

1110
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,919
Speaker 1: the opportunity also to showcase what he is and who

1111
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: he is in case there is a franchise that would

1112
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: like to acquire him and that perhaps they could flip

1113
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 1: him notably for an agile center. Feel free to disagree

1114
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: or tell me I'm wrong.

1115
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to tell you you're wrong.

1116
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 2: I mean, like, I mean, I don't know what their

1117
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 2: bar is going to be for that, Like I don't.

1118
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 2: I think they recognize that he is valuable, but they

1119
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,439
Speaker 2: also recognize that if he is valuable to someone else

1120
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 2: and he is more if he is more valuable to

1121
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 2: someone else, then they should listen, you know, in terms

1122
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 2: of what they might be able to get for that.

1123
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 2: So this question is you know, like we're starting to

1124
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 2: see it's fill sort of. I think Shum's reported this week

1125
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 2: that Okay, they're looking for a center of the future.

1126
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 2: You see Daniel Gaffert's name, you've seen me because Zubac's name.

1127
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: I'd be interested if you know what what they're willing

1128
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: to let matter walk for Like, I think they know

1129
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 2: they have something good there, and I do I don't

1130
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 2: think like like, I don't think you're entirely off base,

1131
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 2: but I mean I don't. I also don't think that

1132
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 2: they have given up on him either. I mean, but

1133
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 2: it's like I think they are showcasing him, but they

1134
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 2: are also you know, they're showcasing him for everybody else,

1135
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 2: they're showcasing him for themselves. You know, they are still

1136
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 2: trying to figure out, Okay, what what fits here? Is

1137
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 2: he going to be a long term fit with us?

1138
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 2: And you know, like, but I also think Rick Carlisle

1139
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 2: is just putting in good faith effort to coaching, you know.

1140
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 2: I mean I think that's how Rick, you know, processes

1141
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 2: this stuff. Like I don't think he tries to get

1142
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 2: too deep into the weeds on that. And his view

1143
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 2: is like, you know what, I'm going to try to

1144
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 2: make this guy better and whatever that means for us

1145
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 2: is what that means for us, you know. I mean,

1146
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 2: I think that's what he's done. I think he's he's

1147
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 2: operated in good faith with mathin more or less, I

1148
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 2: think a lot of people think of him as having

1149
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 2: a you know, having in a doghouse or whatever. And

1150
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 2: it's like, now, I think Rick has really worked with

1151
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 2: this guy like directly and you know, like personally and

1152
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 2: trying to get him better. And so if that means

1153
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 2: it works out for Indiana, you know, great. But I

1154
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: think it works out that matter ends up somebody else

1155
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 2: that's a better fit for him. I think they'll be

1156
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 2: happy for him in that situation too. And if it

1157
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 2: works out for the Pacers, you know, if there's a

1158
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 2: scenario where it works out great for everybody, I think

1159
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: they'll take it. I don't think they're going to pass

1160
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 2: up on something like that. But you know, I think

1161
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 2: they are coaching him to try to get the best out.

1162
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: Of him, I thought, and I realized these things are

1163
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: always fluid. Dustin del Pirec is our guest. He's on

1164
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: the Java House Peel and Poor guest line from the

1165
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Star. Like you know Walker Kestler's name. I've seen

1166
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: a couple of articles. A lot of people are going

1167
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: to have interest in him, right. I mean, he's hurt

1168
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: in Utah with the shoulder injury, but he's a very

1169
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: versatile seven to two guy. It's not like Indiana is

1170
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: thinking outside the box by exploring a name like that,

1171
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: if that's.

1172
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 3: A name they're looking at.

1173
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: But what to me, my thought at the beginning of

1174
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: the year was that Isaiah Jackson would get ample opportunity

1175
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: to secure that spot and be the five for them.

1176
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: And then I don't know if it was the injury,

1177
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: but it seemed like he got off to a slower

1178
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: start and Jay Huff has now started to kind of

1179
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: find his role in his place, and I'm curious where

1180
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: those two will there be room at the end for

1181
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: both If they were to go out and get themselves

1182
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: a starting five.

1183
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 2: There'd be a room at the inn. But it's just

1184
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 2: it obviously puts you know, it obviously depends on what

1185
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 2: the starting five is, and there would be room at

1186
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 2: the end. But it's a question of, Okay, is that

1187
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 2: person going to want that spot. They're going to want

1188
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 2: something more because someone you know, in that case, someone

1189
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 2: has to be the third center, you know, and so

1190
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 2: is Jay Huff or you know, Isaiah Jackson after this

1191
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,479
Speaker 2: season going to want to be the third center because

1192
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 2: both of those guys are going to get healthy rotation

1193
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 2: minutes through the rest of it, you know, until unlesson

1194
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 2: until they add somebody, and you know, they're both going

1195
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 2: to have reason to think like, hey, I belong. You know,

1196
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,439
Speaker 2: I'm good enough to be at least a backup center

1197
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 2: for somebody. I'm good and not to play fifteen the game.

1198
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 2: I don't need to be just showing up here playing

1199
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,919
Speaker 2: five and they're coming in if you know, only when

1200
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 2: one of the other two guys has fout trouble. So

1201
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 2: you know, like I'm sure there's you know, like Jay

1202
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 2: Huff is still cheap, Isaiah Jackson is not particularly expensive either.

1203
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 2: But you know, I imagine if they do go swing big

1204
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 2: and go get a zoo back, Go get a gaffer,

1205
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 2: go get a Kessler or somebody like that, you know,

1206
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 2: like they'll probably you know, move one of the other

1207
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 2: guys just on the basis of, hey, you know, like

1208
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 2: you're deserved. You deserve better than we're going to get.

1209
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 2: You know, in this situation, you deserve an opportunity to

1210
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 2: be a backup. You deserve rotation minutes someplace. You know, like,

1211
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 2: we'll look for an opportunity that fits there. And so

1212
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 2: I don't know which, you know, I ac think it

1213
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 2: depends on which one they get. Basically, it's you know,

1214
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 2: if if whoever they get as a starter is a

1215
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 2: guy who can shoot threes, is a pick and talk

1216
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 2: up pick and pop option, then you know, they might

1217
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 2: let Jay walk and you know or not, they might

1218
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 2: look for a place for Jay Huff to be, uh,

1219
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 2: you know, more successful. And if if it's somebody that

1220
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 2: that can't shoot threes and if they need Huff basically

1221
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 2: as a backup there's a pick and pop option, then

1222
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 2: they might look at Jackson to give him a better scenario.

1223
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 2: So you know, I mean, like you you can keep

1224
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 2: all three guys, but I mean like this, you know again,

1225
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 2: a year six or whatever his career is, like Jaiah

1226
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 2: Jackson want to go back to playing you know, five

1227
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 2: ten minutes a game. You know, I don't think so,

1228
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 2: you know, I think he did that case. You know,

1229
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 2: he'll look for something that's a better option, and they'll

1230
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 2: you know, look to They tend to look to accommodate.

1231
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 2: I mean, like you remember when they when Daniel Tye

1232
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 2: wasn't playing. I mean they released him because I mean

1233
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 2: the Clippers didn't have a trade that they could make

1234
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 2: work financially, and but they needed a center and you know,

1235
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 2: like the Pacers thought, Hey, you know that's still that's

1236
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 2: the right thing to do, is just give Daniel Tyson

1237
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 2: this opportunity because he'll be able to play and he

1238
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 2: can't play here. So you know, like they will be

1239
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 2: if there is a such a situation where it's not

1240
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 2: best for one of those two guys to stick with

1241
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 2: the Pacers, they'll look to accommodate.

1242
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: Do you think jaris Walker are we starting to get

1243
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: an idea of the ceiling or do the pacer see

1244
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: it as he is just getting off the floor and

1245
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: not off the floor of the playing floor. You got

1246
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like he's just starting to elevate from

1247
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: from his baseline.

1248
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think it's more of the

1249
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 2: second thing. And I think, you know, like the is

1250
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 2: still in the play like and and I think that's

1251
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 2: probably bothersome to them in this sense. I mean, obviously

1252
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 2: they just benched, you know, Rick just bench jerfs on

1253
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 2: you last Friday against the Bulls, like, you know, just

1254
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 2: saw something he didn't like, I guess, defensively or whatever

1255
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 2: in the first quarter and just put him on the

1256
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 2: bench until you know, the last couple of minutes of

1257
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 2: that game. And but you know. Then I asked him

1258
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 2: about him after Monday, after the win on Monday, and

1259
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 2: he just said, you know, I thought, just the terrific

1260
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 2: job of responding. He had twelve points, hit some big rebounds.

1261
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 2: It's just they just look at it as like, I mean,

1262
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 2: he's just got to play with some consistency, with some force,

1263
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 2: ands of edge. I mean they definitely see, you know,

1264
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 2: they see the you know, the finer finesse points of

1265
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 2: his game. It's nice to have a guy who's you know,

1266
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 2: six seven, two thirty five to forty, who can you know,

1267
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 2: shoot threes and handle the basketball and you know, with

1268
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 2: biglong arms, you can you know, just get his hands

1269
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 2: in for steels and stuff like that. And you know

1270
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,919
Speaker 2: there's there's like all these you know, little nuanced cool

1271
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 2: things that they keep looking at like that kind of

1272
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 2: like gadgets to his game, if you will. But they're like, man,

1273
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 2: like a guy like that's got to play with more

1274
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 2: consistent force, more consistent edge. You know, like those are

1275
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 2: words that Carlisle uses all the time. You you know,

1276
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 2: like you look at Jeris Walker and you're like, that

1277
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 2: guy has all the physical capabilities to play the way

1278
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 2: that you want to play. With the kind of you know,

1279
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 2: just muscle strength, force, you know, what's a disposition that

1280
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 2: Rick likes to say, And you're like, you're just not

1281
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 2: seeing it. You're just not seeing the kind of edge

1282
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 2: and force. And you're like, well, just bring that and

1283
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 2: everything else comes into play. And I think I've camera

1284
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 2: I think it was I camera which game it was

1285
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 2: what I mean like that he had one game where

1286
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,919
Speaker 2: he was really driving the ballhart of the rim, and

1287
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 2: you know, and like you're like, wow, that's it, you know,

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01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 2: there it is, That's what Jeris Walker needs to be.

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01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 2: And it's like you can combine it with him hitting

1290
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 2: open threes, you know, going hard to the room on

1291
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 2: offense and just playing consistently tough defense and rebounding. You're like, man,

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01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 2: there could be a great player there and it's just

1293
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 2: not showing up with any level of consistent So they're

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01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 2: trying to hang in there with that. But you know,

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01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 2: to your point, I mean, it makes him more you know,

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01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 2: movable when you're talking about, you know, needing a trade.

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01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 2: But you know, like they I think they still see

1298
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 2: a really good player in there if he can bring

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01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 2: with up bring a level of consistent edge.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I always thought, Dustin, if you want

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01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:19,919
Speaker 1: to go into business with me on this, that's cool.

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01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: We'll have to get a couple of people to chip in.

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01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: But I always thought it was a missed opportunity that

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01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: there wasn't somebody somewhere that opened up a burger joint

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01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: that just sells Hawaiian burgers and just called it tasty burgers.

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01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean that's I don't know why nobody

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01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 2: did that yet.

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Speaker 3: I mean, thirty years removed from peak pulp fiction, I realized.

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Speaker 3: But I think most people would get the reference with

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01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 3: they not if you just had it, like.

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Speaker 2: Did you know Bigger Huniberger?

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01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, exactly, the big ker Huniberger.

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01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: But I think that probably is trademarked, so you'll just

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01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: have to call it the tasty Burger. But it is

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01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 1: a tasty burger. And then it's clearly at the fountain

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01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: drink you sall just sprite right to wash it down with.

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01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 3: Obviously it goes with That's it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, these are the kinds of things that I

1319
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: sit around and think about when no one else is around,

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01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: which oftentimes is actually when I'm on the radio. To

1321
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: be honest with you, truth be told you know what

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01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: I mean. I mean, if we're being real, there are

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Speaker 1: you in on my business venture?

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01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 2: I'm in let's just get a couple of more investors

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01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 2: because I'm done with that. I mean, I feel like

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01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 2: we can also buy the trademark, right, I mean, like

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01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 2: you know, bubblegut gumshrim company exists.

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01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: Right, like there's no listen, let me tell you something

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01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 1: I trademarked. Why not Indiana and trademarking. First off, not

1330
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: only is trademarking a challenge, but then now like there's

1331
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: some company online. I guess I can say I won't

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01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: say the name of it, but and it's not a

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01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 1: local one. There was a local one that had to

1334
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: get a letter from me. And now there's one with

1335
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: selling T shirts that are a blatant ripoff of the

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01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 1: trademarked T shirts of the Whine not Indiana. Like it's wildfire, man.

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01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, yeah, yeah, there you go. Trademarking is

1338
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 1: not an easy thing to do. But so so let

1339
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: me ask you this. When you talk about the idea

1340
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 1: of a business venture and you want to buy in

1341
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 1: because you think it's going to pay off, if that

1342
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 1: business venture was Johnny furfey On a long term spot

1343
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: within Indiana and working his way into rotation once they

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01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: get back to who we think they're going to be.

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01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: You buying that or you pass it on.

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01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 2: I'm buying that. I'm not putting every you know, like

1347
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 2: not not putting the entire life savings into the investment,

1348
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 2: but you know, but buying that if I've got some

1349
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 2: disposable income, I guess the best way to play it.

1350
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 2: I mean, like you just he just the injuries have

1351
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 2: you know, like so far. I mean, they really just

1352
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 2: love the way he plays. They love his aggressionate level,

1353
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 2: all those kinds of things. And I think just him

1354
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 2: not being healthy has taken away some of that, some

1355
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 2: of what you saw. And I think if you've got

1356
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 2: you know, like he's starting to shoot the ball better,

1357
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 2: you know, like I mean that was one of his

1358
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 2: big assets coming in. You didn't really see it in

1359
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 2: year one, but you're starting to see it in year

1360
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 2: two in the limited amount of opportunities he's had, you know,

1361
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 2: So I think it can't happen. I mean, like Rick,

1362
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 2: Rick loves his attitude, Rick loves the plays with, Rick

1363
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 2: loves his physicality. You know, I think he's entertained by

1364
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 2: the fact that it's like sneaky physicality that you know,

1365
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 2: like Rick mentioned over and over again, how he looks

1366
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 2: like he's you know, like it just does looks like

1367
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 2: he's ever had to shave, and he looks like he's fifteen.

1368
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 2: And and yet you know he boxes out in plays,

1369
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 2: was kind of forced around the room and everything. So

1370
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 2: you know, it's like if he can get some established

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01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 2: level of a coggression of energy and be able to

1372
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 2: show it, I think there's a chance he can work

1373
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 2: his way in there. It's it is, it's an interesting

1374
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 2: it's obviously a different lineup scenario now, and you know,

1375
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 2: like you know Walker being part of that, and then

1376
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 2: you add Ethan Thompson to this situation and Garrison, Garrison

1377
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 2: Matthews the situation or guys you weren't part of this before.

1378
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 2: You know, Quentin Jackson's gonna get get up back on

1379
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 2: the floor here. You obviously played with the boom last night.

1380
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I imagine he'll get some minutes in Philadelphia

1381
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 2: tonight and so you'll see him out of the rotation. It's,

1382
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 2: you know, like it is sort of all over the place,

1383
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 2: and obviously there are guys and players that I think

1384
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 2: you take now you do take Jeremiah Robinson or all

1385
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 2: out of the equation, and you know which would probably

1386
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 2: leads more opportunity for for Ife Robinson houses played in

1387
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 2: a couple of games. They had not played in a

1388
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 2: couple of games. But you know, I think they you know,

1389
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 2: he played with like that just sort of sort of

1390
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,839
Speaker 2: like an energy, you know four guy that could really rebound,

1391
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 2: you know, like him being gone opens up some minutes

1392
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 2: for fur Fee in that regard.

1393
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 7: So yeah, I mean I think he can.

1394
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 2: It makes sense for them to make sure they get

1395
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:29,719
Speaker 2: you know, for twenty one year olds and minutes, especially

1396
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 2: if they're you know, they find themselves, you know, really

1397
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:33,600
Speaker 2: stuck in the lottery. It's like, okay, you need you

1398
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 2: need to get Furfey on the floor. You need to

1399
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 2: hopefully get camp Jones on the floor at some point.

1400
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 2: Make sure those guys get opportunities. So I'm gonna say, ultimately, yes,

1401
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 2: I think he's going to have more rotation spots, more

1402
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 2: rotation opportunities as the year goes on.

1403
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 1: Dustin, I know that it's been a cameo before, uh

1404
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 1: and I'm always welcoming of it.

1405
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 3: The dog's name, by the way, your dog's name in

1406
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 3: the background there.

1407
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 2: Maxine, Yes, Maccine, she's got thought about whatever is going Uh.

1408
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 3: I love Maxine going on on the street. She's you know, listen,

1409
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 3: listen Maxine.

1410
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: Hearing you talk when you're on this radio program means

1411
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 1: that we've now gone from four to five listeners. So

1412
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 1: we will take it right and not for you, I'm

1413
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: saying for me, right, So we greatly appreciate it.

1414
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:10,719
Speaker 3: Dustin.

1415
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: I appreciate the time as always, pacers and actions that

1416
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 1: I taken on Philly. Have a great weekend. I'm sure

1417
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: we will talk to you. But if we don't have

1418
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 1: a great holiday season as well, absolutely you as well.

1419
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 1: Thank you about Sike. I does know peerrec joining us

1420
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 1: from the Indianapolis Star. All right, we have tickets to

1421
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: give away, Eddie, if I'm not mistaken to the crew, right,

1422
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 1: Motley Crue, Yes, we do the Motley Crue and we're

1423
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 1: gonna do that. On the other side, I think we

1424
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 1: should do a little get to know your listener because

1425
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 1: I'd like to know what people think of this situation.

1426
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:43,839
Speaker 1: From the Colt standpoint with Philip Rivers, I'm genuinely curious

1427
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 1: are people buying into the they made the best of

1428
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 1: the situation. Are people thinking this is a desperate hail

1429
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 1: Mary from a guy that may not even be able

1430
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 1: to throw one of those at this point, or are

1431
01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: the is this hey? At least now it's interesting. Two

1432
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 1: three nine ten seventy is the telephone number. We'll have

1433
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: a conversation. We'll let you discuss why a believer don't

1434
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,560
Speaker 1: in Philip rivers and be why you should be the

1435
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:12,560
Speaker 1: one to go see the crew, and we'll do it

1436
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 1: on the other side. Here Two three nine ten seventy

1437
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 1: the telephone number Query Company here.

1438
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 3: In the fan.

1439
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: So thank you to everybody for letting me know that

1440
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 1: our mic was hot during the commercial break. Still things

1441
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 1: that are being worked out here in the new studio,

1442
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: and in the sake of transparency, I will just go

1443
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 1: ahead and divulge what it was we were discussing. Jeff

1444
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 1: had come in and I because we are still working

1445
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: through new software and other such things in the fabulous studio,

1446
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: and the engineers have done an awesome job getting us

1447
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: moved over here in this chair that I'm sitting on.

1448
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 3: Is literally like a cloud, and.

1449
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 1: Just when I had opened it up for phone calls,

1450
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 1: Jeff Ricker walked in and I said, hey, just to rehash,

1451
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 1: we still don't have the software yet to see callscreen

1452
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 1: from my side, right just said, no, that's correct. And

1453
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 1: then I said, and you folks probably heard this that

1454
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 1: we were trying to get for an out of Mendoza

1455
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 1: on the program for next week. But now, and this

1456
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 1: is to me, and it's a fascinating tibet I would

1457
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:09,839
Speaker 1: have shared publicly anyway.

1458
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 3: I get it, totally get it. But now when I.

1459
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 1: Requested to IU, they said that actually is no longer

1460
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 1: set up by us. You would have to go through

1461
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 1: his agent, Drew Rosenhaus and as Rickard said, like, he's

1462
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: got one of the best agents out there. And then

1463
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 1: I was asking Jeff, which I think is a fun question,

1464
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 1: you know, what is the ceiling at the professional level

1465
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 1: of Mendoza?

1466
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 3: Who is he? You know, Kirk Cousins, is that his ceiling?

1467
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 1: Obviously a bright guy and he is a big player,

1468
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,560
Speaker 1: but like he doesn't jump out to me as a

1469
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, like, man, this is who you have to get.

1470
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 1: I don't know that this year, and there are good

1471
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in this draft, but I don't know that any

1472
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 1: of them jump out at you as man. That is

1473
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: a franchise guy. But thank you to people that UH

1474
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 1: pointed that out that our mic was going out over

1475
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,679
Speaker 1: the air. Thank goodness. I didn't say anything and I listen.

1476
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 1: I never used profanity anyway. Two through nine, ten seventy

1477
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 1: is the telephone number we have tickets to give away

1478
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 1: for the crew that is Motley Crue. We will start

1479
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 1: with Scott.

1480
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 3: Scott. What's up?

1481
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, I'm good.

1482
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 7: How are you?

1483
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 8: Jake?

1484
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 3: You know I can't complain, Scott. Have you called the

1485
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 3: program before? I never have?

1486
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 9: Well, I've tribed, I've never gotten through Jae.

1487
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 1: Really Okay, Scott, We're gonna do a little segment. We

1488
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 1: do a little thing on the show called get to

1489
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 1: Know your Listener. We've had great success with this.

1490
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:36,560
Speaker 3: Kids love it.

1491
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 1: We've had a lot of meetings. Research says that kids

1492
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 1: love to get to know your set just out of curiosity. Scott,

1493
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 1: how old a fella are you?

1494
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 7: I am fifty seven, will be fifty eight next.

1495
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: Week, okay, And so that puts you in a high

1496
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 1: school graduating class. I'm going to go somewhere around like

1497
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: eighty six or so, he can go. You nailed it,

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01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 1: and that would be what school.

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01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 3: Happy early birthday by life.

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01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 1: Look right over that, Jase, he did say soon? You

1501
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:04,640
Speaker 1: said soon to me? When did you say your birthday is.

1502
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 2: The seventeenth next Wednesday?

1503
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 3: Okay? Now, did that suck having it right before Christmas?

1504
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 9: I'm sorry?

1505
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 1: Did it suck growing up having your birthday a week

1506
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 1: before Christmas?

1507
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 9: He kind of get used to it, you know, when

1508
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 9: you're a kid. Yeah, because you got the you know,

1509
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 9: hey combo gifts and all that stuff. But it doesn't

1510
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 9: matter anymore. So did you go to brebuff with Jeff

1511
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 9: mo He was a year older than me?

1512
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, he was. That dude was when he was

1513
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 3: at Iowa. Man, he was tenacious. There's no question. I'm guessing.

1514
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm gonna guess that in the class of nineteen

1515
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 1: eighty six at bbuff Scott that you were rolling around

1516
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: and you were bumping some Motley Crue from time to time.

1517
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 3: Correct, you know it? Have you ever seen Motley Crue

1518
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 3: in concert?

1519
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 8: I've never have?

1520
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,640
Speaker 9: Okay, well, and with saw Vince Neil a couple of

1521
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 9: years ago at the Fairgrounds. Though it's pretty nice.

1522
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 1: The last time that I saw Motley Crue in concert,

1523
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 1: they and I mean obviously this shows you. It's been

1524
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 1: a while, but they had like a little camquarter thing

1525
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 1: that was attached to the jumbo tron at Gamebridge, and

1526
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,640
Speaker 1: they passed it around for all of the women to

1527
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 1: do as they liked with the camera. And you know,

1528
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 1: let me tell you something, girls, girls, girls, it's more

1529
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: than just the song.

1530
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:06,600
Speaker 5: You know.

1531
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 1: All right, Scott, we're going to send you on your

1532
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: way to see Motley Crue. I appreciate you listening to

1533
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 1: the program. All right, Hey, thank you guys so much.

1534
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 1: Love your show.

1535
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. All right. Now we're going to go

1536
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 3: to Austin.

1537
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 1: Austin is up next, because Austin is I'm not mistaken, Austin.

1538
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 1: You tried to call in and you actually got bumped

1539
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: out for Motley Crue tickets in Jake favoritism.

1540
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 3: Is that correct?

1541
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 7: That is correct. Eddie chose for you, Eddie chose the

1542
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 7: other Jake instead of me.

1543
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 3: But I will whoa, whoa, yeah, that's exactly what happened, right.

1544
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 2: Whoa, No, yep, yep.

1545
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 7: Jake tweeted at me, texting me so and called me so.

1546
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 7: That is all because of Eddie.

1547
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 1: Now here's the thing, Austin, I'd like to know this okay,

1548
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: So just so people that are not familiar are aware

1549
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 1: the last time that we had tickets to give away

1550
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 1: for Motley Crue and Eddie, if you could please look

1551
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 1: up the specifics on the Motley Crue concert of the

1552
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 1: tickets that we're giving away so that we can get

1553
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 1: everybody the information if they don't get the tickets from

1554
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:03,799
Speaker 1: Motley Cruze.

1555
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 3: Friday, August the twenty eighth at ru Off.

1556
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 1: Okay, Friday, August twenty eighth, a Ruoff. So we were

1557
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 1: giving away tickets and there were two callers. We had

1558
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 1: one set to give away and it was between Austin

1559
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 1: and Jake, and Eddie said, got to go with Jake

1560
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 1: because that's the name of Query, and so you went

1561
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 1: with Jake. Austin then understandably thought that there was a

1562
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 1: bias there, So I then called Austin on the phone

1563
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: to explain the situation. Now, Austin, when I called, would

1564
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 1: you say, would you list me as simply calling just

1565
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 1: like professionally or was I like a good dude and

1566
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 1: a nice guy?

1567
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 2: Definitely a good dude and a nice guy.

1568
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 3: See there you go. All wait, did you say not

1569
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 3: professional at all?

1570
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 2: You do know me? All right?

1571
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 3: Well, Austin, I'll tell you.

1572
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 7: What the other Jake didn't know who Shannon was.

1573
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 3: That is true, That is true. That's intregious.

1574
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 1: Now let me ask Okay, So here is the trivia

1575
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 1: question for you, Austin, to prove that whether or not

1576
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 1: you listen to this program. Aside from that, are you ready?

1577
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 1: I appreciate that you knew Shannon, But the running gag

1578
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 1: on this program is that they're oddly enough is another

1579
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 1: woman in town that if you google the Jake Querry wife,

1580
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 1: this woman's picture and profile comes up in not inexplicable

1581
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 1: because I'm very good friends with her. What female is that?

1582
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 2: Could be the drink fairy.

1583
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 3: That'd be the beer fairy? All right, bear fairy?

1584
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 1: That exonerates you right there. It is Emily Longbacker of

1585
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 1: Channel thirteen. For whatever reason, Austin, hang on. We will

1586
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 1: get you on your way. But when it comes to

1587
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,879
Speaker 1: women of the show, of course, our favorite Cindy Denise,

1588
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 1: who is female caller number I think twenty five or

1589
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 1: twenty six. Hi, Cindy, how are you?

1590
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 10: It has been a long time? I'm good, sure you I.

1591
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 3: Can't remember, Cindy? Is it you called in once and

1592
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 3: we were trying again.

1593
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 1: We were trying to get to like female caller number

1594
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 1: twenty and you called in over nineteen and I said,

1595
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: can you just act like two different women and be

1596
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:09,600
Speaker 1: and so you went with Cindy and Denise, but I

1597
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: can't remember which is the original.

1598
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 3: Are you Cindy or are you Denise? Because we just

1599
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 3: call you Cindy Denise, right, you.

1600
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 10: Wanted me to pretend to be or we were going

1601
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 10: to act like that was another female, So you said,

1602
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 10: give me a different name, and I just blurted out Denise.

1603
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 3: So you're really so Sindy real quick. And that was

1604
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 3: a while ago.

1605
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 1: So I appreciate because it would be indication here that

1606
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 1: you are still listening to the program from time to time.

1607
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 1: I asked this a lot on get to know your

1608
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 1: listener if you don't mind me asking, and that is,

1609
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: tell me something about the show you don't like.

1610
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 10: I would probably I would prefer to not say on air.

1611
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 3: God, now why is it?

1612
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 2: That? Is it? Is it?

1613
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:54,560
Speaker 5: So?

1614
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 3: There is something? What's that?

1615
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:56,640
Speaker 2: Well?

1616
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I have I have an opinion because

1617
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,600
Speaker 10: I mean, say, I listen from time to time, but

1618
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:05,639
Speaker 10: I mean yeah, I mean I yeah, is it me Cindy?

1619
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 3: Is that what you don't like about the program? And

1620
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:08,919
Speaker 3: that's okay, I understand.

1621
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 5: Is it me?

1622
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:14,799
Speaker 10: You can be honest, yn't break your heart on public radio?

1623
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 3: It is.

1624
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 10: You know, people always say it's about me, but it's

1625
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:23,640
Speaker 10: not always.

1626
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,640
Speaker 7: About you, Jake, you know.

1627
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 3: Okay, So you're saying that what you don't like about

1628
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 3: the show is that I make it about me.

1629
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 10: No, no, no, okay, let's just change the subject. Because

1630
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 10: when I heard about the Motley Crew the other day,

1631
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 10: and there was a reason why, I kind of fell

1632
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 10: off the face of the earth for about three months.

1633
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 10: But I've recently been back.

1634
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 3: But that's a whole nother story, is everything, okay? Yeah, yeah, okay.

1635
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 10: I was just managing a halloween store. I own a

1636
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 10: halloween store, so I basically yeah, for three months, I basically,

1637
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 10: you know, the real world goes away because I'm just

1638
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 10: so focused and so busy, like I worked eighteen hours

1639
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 10: of twenty four seven. But anyhow, so I wanted to

1640
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:11,599
Speaker 10: just tell you, well, I didn't I don't know if

1641
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 10: you knew this or not. I know you know a

1642
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:15,680
Speaker 10: lot about Motley Krue, but did you know that the

1643
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:20,959
Speaker 10: Girls Girls Girls video was actually the filmed at Market.

1644
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 2: Square, Okay Square.

1645
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 1: I thought it was Home Sweet Home. I know there

1646
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 1: was one where they did I did know this, Cindy,

1647
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 1: and tell me if this is if I'm correcting this.

1648
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 1: I know there was one that they filmed at Market Square,

1649
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 1: but then they they ended up using video from the

1650
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 1: summit in Houston, Texas in replacement of and they had

1651
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 1: some fill in of angles with.

1652
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 3: Market Square. But was it Girls Girls Girls was entirely

1653
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 3: at Market Square?

1654
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 10: It was definitely Girls Girls Girls. I've seen the video.

1655
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 10: And one reason why I know it's because I'm in it.

1656
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 3: Are you really? And that's why I need the tickets? Okay,

1657
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 3: this is all awesome.

1658
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 1: So hold on, Eddie, fire up Girls Girls Girls by

1659
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 1: Motley Cruz. And then now, Cindy, so you were in it,

1660
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 1: and be honest, did you have aqua net in your

1661
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 1: hair during the filming of the Girls Girls Girls video

1662
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty two or eighty three?

1663
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 3: Okay?

1664
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 1: Now, how long is your cameo within the Girls Girls

1665
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 1: Girls video? And exactly at what time.

1666
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:23,639
Speaker 3: In the video.

1667
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 10: It's about a one millions of a second. It is

1668
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 10: definitely quick because it is a scan, it's an audience scan.

1669
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 10: But and I know it was it was video because

1670
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:38,759
Speaker 10: they told us it was they were going to shoot

1671
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 10: a video, you know, and be sure to watch it

1672
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 10: or to be sure awesome look yourself or whatever. Yeah,

1673
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 10: as far as I know, the whole video was that

1674
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:50,839
Speaker 10: concert you know, or that performance.

1675
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, So check it out from John Mellencamp. Also

1676
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 1: was done at Market Square. And my understanding is from

1677
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 1: people that were there, they filmed it like it was

1678
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 1: at the end of his concert. They're like, hey, now

1679
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 1: we got a film a video, and they did like

1680
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 1: three or four different recordings of it. That was not

1681
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: the case here, correct, It was just one like boom,

1682
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:06,640
Speaker 1: we're going to go.

1683
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 10: Yeah, and like you said, maybe they did other concerts

1684
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 10: they made well you said it was Home Sweet Home,

1685
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 10: but yeah, for sure, Well yeah.

1686
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 1: I do think that they use some some clips from

1687
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:20,759
Speaker 1: Home Sweet Home within it. But when in the Homestreet

1688
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:22,599
Speaker 1: Home video, when it shows them going into the arena

1689
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 1: that is actually in Houston, I want to get back

1690
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 1: to it being all about me, by.

1691
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 3: The way, So it is me. It's me that you do.

1692
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 10: Or don't like here, Cindy, no, Jake, You're amazing.

1693
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 1: And you know what, well, I don't know that Actually,

1694
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 1: I be honest with you, I'm still every day I

1695
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 1: hold my breath every day when the key card works.

1696
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 3: Cindy, I'm not gonna lie to you. Right, It's not

1697
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 3: not my first rodeo with this, but I think it's

1698
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 3: awesome that you were in the video.

1699
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 10: What's at my issue is that you're not on long enough. Well,

1700
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 10: there's not enough Jake ours.

1701
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 1: Check check is in the mail, Cindy, and so too

1702
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 1: are the tickets for Motley Crue. And if they make

1703
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 1: another music video, make sure you got the aquinet Cindy.

1704
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 1: All right, that is Cindy Denise joining us on the program.

1705
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 1: All right, we come back, Kevin Bow. I'm going to

1706
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 1: join us top of the hour. We're going to get

1707
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 1: to the nuanced de brass tacks. Who is going to

1708
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 1: be starting for the Cold Sunday at quarterback? We'll answer next.

1709
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 1: I am admittedly a little hesitant to point this out

1710
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 1: because I'm still not convinced that Cindy wasn't being flippant.

1711
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 1: And actually Cindy listens to this program as a glutton

1712
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,680
Speaker 1: of punishment even though she doesn't like me. I think

1713
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:42,759
Speaker 1: that that's very realistic. However, Cindy, if you are still listening.

1714
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 1: Eddie needs your information to get you the Motley Crue

1715
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 1: tickets so that you can again appear in a Motley

1716
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 1: Crue video. And thank you to JMV and others who

1717
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 1: pointed out it apparently is wild Side that song you

1718
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 1: just heard. That's the music video that was filmed at

1719
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:02,679
Speaker 1: Market Square in nineteen eighty I said eighty three eighty seven.

1720
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 3: It was off the Girls Girls Girls album, but it

1721
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 3: was wild Side.

1722
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:10,719
Speaker 1: That is the video that was filmed at Market Square

1723
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 1: and that's what Cindy Denise makes a cameo in. But Cindy,

1724
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 1: you got to call back at two third nine ten

1725
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 1: seventy and get your information to Eddie. Or you can

1726
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 1: text me if you have my number as well, to

1727
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,560
Speaker 1: give me your information to get you the tickets for

1728
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:25,600
Speaker 1: Motley Crue, or I can get you in touch with

1729
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 1: Eddie to get you the tickets for Motley Crue. However, Eddie,

1730
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 1: do you happen to have the breaking news sounder? The

1731
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 1: breaking news was going to be that. Shane Steiken has

1732
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 1: said that Riley Leonard has taken starter snaps this week,

1733
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:44,639
Speaker 1: but he is still noncommittal on naming who the starting

1734
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 1: quarterback will be in Seattle, and I think we can

1735
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: anticipate that Philip Rivers will eventually take over the starting role.

1736
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:54,759
Speaker 1: But whether or not he is the one that starts

1737
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 1: the game, we still that is TVD probably little gamesmanship

1738
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 1: there as well. Also within not breaking news, but news

1739
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:06,560
Speaker 1: of note two things number one, somebody has written to

1740
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:10,679
Speaker 1: me to say that their coworker Joeanne listens to the program. Now, Eddie,

1741
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 1: of our thirty one female listeners, do we have a

1742
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 1: Joe Anne?

1743
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I believe this. No, we're at

1744
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 3: thirty two, right, this takes us to thirty three.

1745
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 4: Wait a second, did we give away thirty two and

1746
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:22,639
Speaker 4: thirty three to one listener?

1747
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure we did. I think that's right.

1748
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 1: So does this put us at thirty four female listeners? Yes,

1749
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 1: this is almost doubled in the last month and a half.

1750
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:31,679
Speaker 1: This is exciting stuff.

1751
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 3: It is very exciting.

1752
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 1: Joe Anne would make thirty four on the list. I

1753
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 1: believe thirty four, although although we might be back to

1754
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:43,560
Speaker 1: thirty three because fairly certain Shannon no longer listens to

1755
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 1: the show.

1756
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 3: I don't think she was ever a part of the

1757
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 3: thirty three.

1758
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 1: Also true, like she'll asked me something. I'm like, did

1759
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:51,560
Speaker 1: you did you not hear the show today? And she's like,

1760
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 1: I'm busy, okay, sure, thank you. You know, as soon

1761
01:24:56,720 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 1: as it turns three o'clock, she's all dialed in without question,

1762
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 1: right and our Saturday nights are on Listen Saturday nights

1763
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 1: right now, we have our Saturdays back because she's not

1764
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:12,760
Speaker 1: locked into the JAMV takeover on B oneh five because

1765
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: it's Christmas music until after the holidays, so I have

1766
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 1: just a couple more weekends to enjoy that. Also, by

1767
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:22,640
Speaker 1: the way, somebody pointed this out to me, and it

1768
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:29,639
Speaker 1: is a such a great point. There were few things

1769
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 1: that I loved more and have loved more than I

1770
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 1: remember my life rising and setting on the history of

1771
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 1: the Indiana Kentucky basketball series. Steve Alford in the calendar

1772
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 1: and being ineligible to play in eighty six, devastating eighty

1773
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 1: eight Rex Chapman, but the Jay Edwards as a freshman,

1774
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 1: the Big Four Classic as it was known at the

1775
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 1: Hoosier Dome. I think Rob Locke was at his name

1776
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 1: the center for Kentucky, and Kentucky was ranking and Indiana

1777
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 1: took him to overtime. Loved it ninety three, the Great

1778
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:20,639
Speaker 1: Indiana team, and yet they go down to Freedom Hall

1779
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 1: and Jamal Mashburn and Richie Farmer goes crazy, big time drama.

1780
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 1: The year after that, Indiana loses at Hankele. I'm down

1781
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 1: working in Bloomington, working at the grocery store, and even

1782
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:40,919
Speaker 1: though it was winter break, I stayed down in Bloomington

1783
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 1: to work, and Indiana loses to.

1784
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 3: Butler.

1785
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 1: I had gone to the game at Hankle and then

1786
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:50,640
Speaker 1: driven back down to Bloomington because I had like an

1787
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:54,600
Speaker 1: eight pm to one am shift at Marsh and so

1788
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 1: I was staying in my apartment at like one thirty

1789
01:26:57,320 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 1: in the morning and the door opens and Pat Knight

1790
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 1: comes walking in and he's still wearing his uniform because

1791
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 1: they went from Hinkle to Assembly Hall and practiced for

1792
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 1: like five hours. And then a week later, Damon Bailey

1793
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 1: on the cover of Sports Illustrated because they stunned number

1794
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,919
Speaker 1: one Kentucky. The rivalry in the history of that rivalry

1795
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 1: is so special, and for this time of year and

1796
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 1: this weekend, Indiana and Kentucky resuming that rivalry. The first

1797
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:27,560
Speaker 1: time they played each other in the regular season, I

1798
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 1: believe since the watch shot and obviously not the first

1799
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 1: time they played in this at all, because they played

1800
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 1: that year in the NCAA Tournament. But nonetheless, someone points out,

1801
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 1: and it is a fabulous point that is made. It

1802
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 1: is incredible whoever would have guessed that there would be

1803
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 1: a time in December in sports talk radio in Indianapolis, Indiana,

1804
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 1: that an hour and fifty minutes into the show, after

1805
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:58,679
Speaker 1: we've already had conversations about Indiana football producing a Heisman

1806
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,600
Speaker 1: Trophy winner, Indiana football getting ready to go into the

1807
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 1: College Football Playoff as the number one ranked team and

1808
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 1: the number one seeded team in the land, and going

1809
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: into the Rose Bowl and people buying tickets for the

1810
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl and securing them, and being three weeks away

1811
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 1: from that, Indiana going and taking on Oklahoma or Alabama.

1812
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 1: Indiana's coach being rumored to possibly be somebody that Michigan

1813
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:23,720
Speaker 1: will flirt with.

1814
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:25,640
Speaker 3: They can all they want. I don't think he goes there.

1815
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 1: There is a school I think Signetti would take a

1816
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 1: phone call from, and it's Alabama. I honestly do believe that.

1817
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 1: But I don't think he leaves. I think he is

1818
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 1: long term stock and barrel in Bloomington. But nonetheless, to

1819
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 1: think that we went this far into the show before

1820
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 1: mentioning that Indiana and Kentucky you're going to square off

1821
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 1: this weekend, is truly incredible. And that's not to diminish

1822
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 1: Indiana basketball or the interest in it, but I just

1823
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 1: think that the football thing is that big.

1824
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 3: It is that big. By the way, Also.

1825
01:28:57,680 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 1: Big is when I hand it over to JMV, which

1826
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:01,639
Speaker 1: I'll be doing about an hour and five minutes from

1827
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 1: about an hour from now. As a matter of fact,

1828
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 1: that crossover is brought to you by the good guys

1829
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Speaker 1: that love heating and air. But Love Heating and Air

1830
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1831
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1832
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Speaker 1: Love Heating and Air has been in Indianapolis for over

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Speaker 1: one hundred years. That means an expertise in any kind

1838
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Speaker 1: of home that you're talking about. In older home, some

1839
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 1: of the older fixtures that take place with the home

1840
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 1: or the newer as well.

1841
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:36,639
Speaker 3: They've got you covered.

1842
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 1: And as I've mentioned that twenty four hour on call

1843
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Speaker 1: maintenance and the integrity and the family values that you

1844
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 1: want from a fourth generation, locally owned and operated Central

1845
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Speaker 1: Indiana business. Love heating and air. Right now is the time.

1846
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Speaker 1: Make sure it's gonna be cold this weekend. Make sure

1847
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Speaker 1: that furnace is going Love dash hvac dot com is

1848
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Speaker 1: the website. Three one seven three five three twenty one

1849
01:29:56,800 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 1: forty one is the telephone number. Kevin Bowen, his son

1850
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,599
Speaker 1: broke rank a little bit. It's going to join us next.

1851
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison going off the beaten grunge path. I love

1852
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 1: it with the Seattle music. A little Sir Mix a Lot,

1853
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 1: Right Swass was my favorite song from Sir Mix a Lot,

1854
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:20,880
Speaker 1: But this one's great. Colts in Seattle taking on the

1855
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 1: Seahawks on Sunday. Big question mark, of course, is who

1856
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 1: will get the starting reps at the quarterback position. Shane

1857
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 1: Steichen still non committal on that. We can read all

1858
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 1: the tea leaves we want. Joining us now on the

1859
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 1: Java House Peel and poor guest line he is with

1860
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:38,599
Speaker 1: the Fan Morning show. You hear him with James Boyd

1861
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 1: jeff Rickord and you heard him this week from our

1862
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 1: brand new palatial studios here in our new building.

1863
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 3: Kevin, you's still getting used to the new Digs, by

1864
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 3: the way, I.

1865
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 8: Am, Yeah, i am a little bit. But yes, space

1866
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 8: is in there. Gosh, you got to have all the

1867
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 8: room of the world.

1868
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's it's and you know what the

1869
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 1: not that anybody cares, but I'm gonna say the chairs

1870
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:03,840
Speaker 1: are like sitting on clouds, huge up bed.

1871
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 8: Yeah they are. They are very nice.

1872
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 5: And yeah, you're probably a bit lonely in there, are

1873
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:10,680
Speaker 5: you not?

1874
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 1: You know, this is kind of the story of my life, Kevin,

1875
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:15,519
Speaker 1: if you really want to know the truth. But yes,

1876
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:18,120
Speaker 1: because we are in you know, Eddie's in a different room.

1877
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 1: But it's good because Eddie's under the weather. So this

1878
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 1: is you know, it's in that regard. It's good to

1879
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 1: make sure that we're all staying healthy. You don't obviously

1880
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:26,800
Speaker 1: have that luxury with two other guys in here, but

1881
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:27,599
Speaker 1: there's plenty of room.

1882
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 3: It's awesome.

1883
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:31,760
Speaker 1: It is very cool, and the topic of conversation has

1884
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 1: clearly been about the quarterback for the Colts since we

1885
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 1: made the move over here. I'm going to table that

1886
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 1: for now and start with this and something that I

1887
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 1: think is I'm not going to say it was off radar,

1888
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:45,560
Speaker 1: but maybe we didn't give it enough attention. And that

1889
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 1: is the situation with the injured reserve for Shaverius Moody

1890
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 1: Ward with his third concussion protocol and Kevin as a

1891
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 1: human being. For him, I don't mean as a football player,

1892
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 1: as a human being. I feel for him because that

1893
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:06,800
Speaker 1: is significant, and he was pretty candid about just how

1894
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 1: difficult it was from the concussion protocol the second time,

1895
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 1: and it makes me wonder what the long term for

1896
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 1: him as a cult is going to be. Am I

1897
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 1: being way too analytical there, No, I.

1898
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:21,880
Speaker 8: Don't think you are at all.

1899
01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:27,280
Speaker 5: Unfortunately, you know you obviously remember it, Jake, But outside

1900
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 5: of maybe Austin Colley, I don't know if I've ever

1901
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:32,040
Speaker 5: seen a cult player. You know, in the fifteen years

1902
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 5: that I've covered, the team had three concussion protocols in

1903
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 5: three months. Yeah, It's just it's just super rare, and

1904
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 5: obviously he's been very outspoken about it.

1905
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:44,639
Speaker 2: And you know, again for those that haven't.

1906
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:47,760
Speaker 5: Followed the whole Shavarious Mooney Ward story, you know, you

1907
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 5: had the tragic tragic loss of his young, young daughter

1908
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 5: last year. Really you know, stepped away from football for

1909
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,120
Speaker 5: a little bit of time with forty nine ers, and

1910
01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 5: that was part of why he wanted to go somewhere

1911
01:32:57,920 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 5: else in free agency. Was just I need a total

1912
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:03,479
Speaker 5: re start, you know, to my football career. And I

1913
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:05,439
Speaker 5: do think you have to point out too, and you know,

1914
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 5: again maybe it's a conversation for more of the off season, Jake,

1915
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:10,640
Speaker 5: but he's twenty nine years old. Yes, he was an

1916
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 5: undrafted free agent, but he has signed two very healthy

1917
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:18,240
Speaker 5: contracts in the NFL. And you know, for some guys

1918
01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 5: at different points in their professional careers, the money.

1919
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 8: The risk, all of it might mean different things.

1920
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 2: You know.

1921
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 5: I think when you get guys that are a little

1922
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 5: bit older, you do hear them talk about, hey, my

1923
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 5: body's in good shape. You know, I want to make

1924
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:32,799
Speaker 5: sure I you know, can kind of go out feeling

1925
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:35,320
Speaker 5: like this. Whereas guys that are a little bit younger

1926
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 5: are trying to chase those those contracts in the generational wealth.

1927
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 8: Their decisions might be you know, influenced by that.

1928
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 5: So yeah, just super super unfortunate. But yeah, that news

1929
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:49,839
Speaker 5: earlier this week. He is at least out for the rest.

1930
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:50,160
Speaker 2: Of the season.

1931
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:52,800
Speaker 1: Well, in the big challenge, Kevin, let's be real, is

1932
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 1: the fact that you have now not just one but

1933
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:57,759
Speaker 1: two corners gone, because I mean not gone, but Sauce

1934
01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:02,639
Speaker 1: Gardner being out as well. And whoever would a thunk

1935
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:05,519
Speaker 1: three to four years ago that a team with Sam

1936
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,360
Speaker 1: Darnold under center would be one that you're concerned about

1937
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 1: at the corner position going into it. But they have

1938
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 1: certainly at the top of it as good a receiving

1939
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 1: group as you're going to find in the National Football League.

1940
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:18,680
Speaker 3: So this is a challenge. What does it mean just

1941
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:20,679
Speaker 3: in terms of depth rotation for the Colts.

1942
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, so for those that haven't been paying tension Jackson

1943
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 5: Smith and Jigba for the Seahawks, he leads the league

1944
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 5: and receiving yards by a lots Ohio State product. He's

1945
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 5: been outstanding for them. They still have Cooper Cupp who

1946
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 5: you know, he's probably walking up the fifteenth hole, but

1947
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:37,799
Speaker 5: he's not walking up the eighteenth hole of his career.

1948
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:41,639
Speaker 5: And then they created for Rashid Shaheed, who a couple

1949
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:43,879
Speaker 5: of years ago when the Saints came to Lucas Oil Stadium,

1950
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 5: he lit up the Colts secondary kind of a big

1951
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 5: play white out that can get get really vertical. So

1952
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:52,720
Speaker 5: you know, yes, I do think they have a really

1953
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:56,600
Speaker 5: nice wide out core. I would say one thing the

1954
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 5: Colts to make this a game on Sunday, to keep

1955
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 5: it interesting to you know, try and pull off this upset.

1956
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 9: You know they do.

1957
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:07,680
Speaker 5: Seattle has been a big turnover team this year, and

1958
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 5: I'm saying in the committing turnover department, the.

1959
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:13,759
Speaker 8: Giveaway departments more of than while they're stats. They're thirty first.

1960
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:17,280
Speaker 5: In the league in turnovers again given away. And yet

1961
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 5: if you look at all these teams around them, they

1962
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 5: all are bound for the top ten or fifteen of

1963
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 5: the draft, and the Seahawks might be bound for the

1964
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 5: Super Bowl. So again, can you tap into any of that?

1965
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:29,040
Speaker 5: Can you get you know, Sam Darnold the Segos if

1966
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 5: you will and try to turn the ball over? I

1967
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 5: think that's that absolute must.

1968
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:35,760
Speaker 1: Kevin, Let's get to the quarterback position. Obviously, it is

1969
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:42,599
Speaker 1: the big story. Okay, how confident are you that Philip

1970
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 1: Rivers takes the snap from the get go in Seattle

1971
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 1: at the very least, and then obviously you know, maybe

1972
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 1: it is right than Leonard, But and then they hand

1973
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 1: it over. But are you fairly certain at this point

1974
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:55,840
Speaker 1: that Philip Rivers is the starter?

1975
01:35:57,280 --> 01:36:00,479
Speaker 5: I would be surprised if it is not Philip Rivers

1976
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:01,280
Speaker 5: on Sunday.

1977
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 8: So my expectation is it's Rivers.

1978
01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:06,680
Speaker 5: You know, I guess he could have whatever felt a

1979
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 5: little you know, wakes up tomorrow or you know, even

1980
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:12,760
Speaker 5: later today. It's a lot of pain from three straight

1981
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 5: days of practice. But outside of that, my expectation is

1982
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:18,360
Speaker 5: it'll be the forty four year old grandpa under center.

1983
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 1: Did you get a chance to I mean I saw

1984
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:22,680
Speaker 1: some of the video of him throwing. It's hard to

1985
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 1: tell from that, right, I mean in terms of the

1986
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 1: practice itself or just the reps that he has done.

1987
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 3: What has been the word there?

1988
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he you know, when you watch him throw,

1989
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:37,160
Speaker 5: I don't think anyone's ever thought you're watching you know,

1990
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:40,600
Speaker 5: rolled as Chatman throw a fastball or you know Paul's schemes.

1991
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 5: You know, humb went in there, and I mean his

1992
01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:47,640
Speaker 5: motion still looks quirky and funky, and at times, you know,

1993
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:50,799
Speaker 5: you do feel like he's you know, kind of winding

1994
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:51,439
Speaker 5: up to make.

1995
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:53,679
Speaker 8: Some throws that you know might come a little bit easier.

1996
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:56,840
Speaker 5: So whatever the Joe Flacco's, the Anthony Richardson's of the world,

1997
01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:59,559
Speaker 5: guys that got bigger arms. But you know, he has

1998
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 5: always been guy that it's anticipation, it's knowing where people

1999
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 5: are going to be. Obviously he's got great accuracy, but

2000
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 5: you know, velocity has really never been his demo. And

2001
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 5: you know, Shane suck said today, pretty impressive to watch

2002
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:16,679
Speaker 5: him throw in practice and considering the five years on offense,

2003
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:19,479
Speaker 5: and he certainly has checked the box and changed eyes

2004
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 5: of the mental preparation and you know, all of that

2005
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:25,519
Speaker 5: stuff of why he, in my opinion, will likely hear

2006
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 5: his name in the Pro Football Hall of Fame one day,

2007
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 5: although by flame, whenever he does play as early as Sunday,

2008
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 5: that delays his Hall of Fame clock five five years.

2009
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:37,720
Speaker 7: So yeah, I think those are the biggest questions, O Jake.

2010
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:40,479
Speaker 5: You know that is Garrett times in twenty twenty, I

2011
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 5: felt like, oh man, you know, is that arm starting

2012
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 5: to lose some of it? And it's one thing to

2013
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 5: do it in an indoor environment and the Colts practice

2014
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 5: facility when you're wearing a red jersey. It's another thing

2015
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:53,640
Speaker 5: to do it when you can get hit against one

2016
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 5: of the best defenses in the NFL, and you know

2017
01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 5: fifty degree whether outdoors and we'll see if it rains

2018
01:37:59,520 --> 01:37:59,640
Speaker 5: or not.

2019
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:04,439
Speaker 1: Kevin one of the things that I was, I guess

2020
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:07,479
Speaker 1: surprised by Kevin Bowen, my guest by the way, of course,

2021
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:09,680
Speaker 1: you hear him on the Fan morning show. He's on

2022
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 1: the job house Peel and poor guest line Philip Rivers

2023
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 1: played here one year, and he played here in an

2024
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:17,559
Speaker 1: odd year because it was the COVID year. And that's

2025
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 1: not to say he didn't get to know his teammates.

2026
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 1: He didn't necessarily get to know the media or fans.

2027
01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:25,400
Speaker 1: I mean, everything was at a distance, right, But he

2028
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 1: was very almost sentimental, is how I took it.

2029
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 3: And you were in the room.

2030
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 1: I was not for his press conference, but in watching

2031
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:34,800
Speaker 1: the clips of it, he seemed to have a great

2032
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 1: affinity for being back in the building. And I wondered

2033
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:40,839
Speaker 1: what that was rooted from. And maybe that is simply

2034
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 1: his relationship with be it Chris Ballard or Shane Steichen

2035
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:46,040
Speaker 1: from back when he was.

2036
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:46,719
Speaker 3: With the Chargers.

2037
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 1: But given all of that, he did not come back

2038
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:51,599
Speaker 1: for year number two, and yet it seemed as though

2039
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:53,559
Speaker 1: he enjoyed his year in his time.

2040
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:55,479
Speaker 3: Now, what do you think now is different?

2041
01:38:57,320 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he loves football as much as you

2042
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:05,320
Speaker 5: love cologne and watches. That's a lot, right, I mean,

2043
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 5: he loves it, loves it, loves it, and I know,

2044
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 5: like you know, guys love to play the game of football.

2045
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 5: I just think it's a different level of obsession with him.

2046
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:18,600
Speaker 5: And maybe that sounds cliche, maybe that sounds sappy, but

2047
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 5: I think it's real and I think there was an

2048
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 5: emotional level to him just being back in a building

2049
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:28,759
Speaker 5: and potentially scratching that competitivech.

2050
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 3: One more time.

2051
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:31,240
Speaker 5: Not to mention with an eight and five football team

2052
01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 5: that if you just isolated the record and the standings,

2053
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 5: the Colts have a definite shot to make the playoffs.

2054
01:39:38,479 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 5: Like it, if we didn't factor in their quarterback situation

2055
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:44,880
Speaker 5: at all, then you just look at record standings, you

2056
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:47,120
Speaker 5: know who everybody's playing down the stretch. If the Colts

2057
01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:50,920
Speaker 5: win two of four, that might be enough. So I

2058
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:54,439
Speaker 5: think all of that is where you get, you know,

2059
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:57,560
Speaker 5: this energy from him. He clearly is very close with

2060
01:39:57,640 --> 01:39:59,360
Speaker 5: Shane Stike and I don't think he would have just

2061
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:02,599
Speaker 5: come back, you know, to any call like this from

2062
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 5: around the league. So I think that's that play. And yeah,

2063
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:07,600
Speaker 5: I mean he did get emotional. He got emotional a

2064
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 5: couple of different times. Now one of those times, I

2065
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:11,559
Speaker 5: do think he got emotional in talking about his wife.

2066
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:13,960
Speaker 5: And I do think there is that doubt in his

2067
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:18,519
Speaker 5: mind of like, oh man, I am taking a physical

2068
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:22,640
Speaker 5: risk by being back out there. And if you have

2069
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:27,679
Speaker 5: the Seahawks boy from a competitive spirit, I mean, there's

2070
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 5: got to be a level of like, wait a minute,

2071
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:33,040
Speaker 5: the Colts think that they can run a forty four

2072
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:35,599
Speaker 5: year old dude out here who hasn't played five years

2073
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:37,679
Speaker 5: in the NFL against our defense.

2074
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:40,559
Speaker 8: Like, to me, that would be disrespectful if I see.

2075
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:44,519
Speaker 5: Now, you know, maybe the Colts and Philip can catch

2076
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:47,439
Speaker 5: them in a little bit of their stat hunting. They

2077
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:48,600
Speaker 5: want to be the one to sack the Hall of

2078
01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:50,720
Speaker 5: Fame quarterback. They want to be the one that you know,

2079
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 5: picks off Philip Rivers and in a game that we

2080
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:55,759
Speaker 5: will talk about no matter what happens, good, bad and different,

2081
01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:56,920
Speaker 5: we'll talk about this.

2082
01:40:56,960 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 8: Game for years moving forward.

2083
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:04,120
Speaker 5: Why people will I do think that aspect of the

2084
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:05,320
Speaker 5: game is kind of interesting.

2085
01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 3: Okay, what two players?

2086
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:08,680
Speaker 1: I have my thought on this, but I want your

2087
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 1: thought what two players, Let's say Philip Rivers is the

2088
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:15,960
Speaker 1: starter and he's the guy they're going to right, what

2089
01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 1: two offensive players then probably see their workload most increase

2090
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:22,959
Speaker 1: because of the fact that Philip Rivers is under center.

2091
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:28,800
Speaker 5: Jonathan Taylor in that whole position room, and Tyler Warren

2092
01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:29,880
Speaker 5: in that whole sight end room.

2093
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 1: Yep, because I go back to that's exactly what I said, Kevin,

2094
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:38,439
Speaker 1: and for Tyler Warren. For me, it's not just about

2095
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren's skill set in the area the operating area

2096
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 1: that he's going to be. You know, if Philip Rivers

2097
01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 1: wants to get rid of the football, but also if

2098
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 1: you look at Philip Rivers as a quarterback, think about

2099
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:52,720
Speaker 1: the relationship he had and the statistics he had and

2100
01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:57,040
Speaker 1: the reliability he had on Antonio Gates. So there's familiarity

2101
01:41:57,160 --> 01:42:00,640
Speaker 1: there already with the incorporation of end right.

2102
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:05,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think Rivers knows this ball has got

2103
01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:09,760
Speaker 5: to come out rapid fire and we've got to get

2104
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:12,560
Speaker 5: it to playmakers. And you know, the Colts definitely have

2105
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:15,800
Speaker 5: more playmaking talent than they did last time Rivers was

2106
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:19,599
Speaker 5: here in twenty twenty. And you know, I no matter

2107
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 5: who was playing quarterback, even if it was Leonard or

2108
01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 5: Brett Ritten. I mean, they were going to run the

2109
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:28,080
Speaker 5: ball endlessly on Sunday anyways. So yeah, I fully expect

2110
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:29,680
Speaker 5: that to be the blueprint. And obviously the guy that

2111
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:33,800
Speaker 5: probably hurts the most is Alex Pierce. You know, how

2112
01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:37,639
Speaker 5: many true shots can you get? I mean, if Rivers

2113
01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:40,599
Speaker 5: gets the right look, maybe he will you know, fire

2114
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:43,320
Speaker 5: one up there. But that is an element that I

2115
01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:45,920
Speaker 5: do think has been so key for this Colts team

2116
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:48,640
Speaker 5: this season. You know how much of that will be

2117
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:51,320
Speaker 5: limited because if it's totally taken out, man, it's gonna

2118
01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:54,800
Speaker 5: be tough to grind out. You know, the twelve play

2119
01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:59,160
Speaker 5: eighty are true thinking dunk drives against a defense that

2120
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:00,920
Speaker 5: hasn't a lot of touch on last two weeks.

2121
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:04,000
Speaker 1: Kevin I was talking to somebody, Kevin Bowen, my guest.

2122
01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:06,479
Speaker 1: I was talking to somebody earlier this week that said

2123
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:12,360
Speaker 1: that they believe that Chris Ballard believes that with wins

2124
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:16,400
Speaker 1: over Jacksonville and Houston. You know, obviously both those games

2125
01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:19,240
Speaker 1: still remain Jacksonville here, Houston to end the year down there.

2126
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 1: They believe that those two games, if they were to

2127
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:24,120
Speaker 1: win both of them, that gets them in that that

2128
01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:27,360
Speaker 1: will be enough. I would think they would need to

2129
01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 1: get one of the two also between Seattle and San Francisco.

2130
01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:34,200
Speaker 1: But if they were to drop both of these next

2131
01:43:34,280 --> 01:43:36,320
Speaker 1: two games, not saying it's going to happen, but if

2132
01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:38,720
Speaker 1: they were to drop them, if they were to find

2133
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:44,719
Speaker 1: themselves out of then playoff contention, does Philip Rivers basically

2134
01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:47,280
Speaker 1: get a thank you and a parting gift and then

2135
01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:48,520
Speaker 1: head back to Alabama?

2136
01:43:51,160 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 4: Uh?

2137
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:54,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, Like in terms of what he play next season?

2138
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:58,120
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm saying if they somehow and I

2139
01:43:58,160 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 1: don't know the numbers of what it would be like

2140
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 1: going into Week sixteen or seventeen, but if they cannot

2141
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Speaker 1: get themselves into the playoff, does he play a game

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01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:14,559
Speaker 1: this year? If it is, if it is standing wise irrelevant, I.

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01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:15,360
Speaker 8: See what you're saying.

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01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:19,360
Speaker 3: So if they're eliminated, is he okay?

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01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:20,840
Speaker 7: Yeah?

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01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 5: I would assume I would, frankly hope. I mean there's

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01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:28,840
Speaker 5: part of you that like, I don't think there's many

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01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:30,920
Speaker 5: people that feel this way. But if Daniel Jones is

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01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:32,680
Speaker 5: not going to be ready for week one, which I

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01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:36,479
Speaker 5: mean given the Achilles rehab, I mean nine months, I

2151
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:39,559
Speaker 5: know it sounds crazy to some, but you know, Kirk Cousins,

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01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:41,200
Speaker 5: I think was on a similar time table, much older

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01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 5: than Daniel Jones, and he was clear to be ready

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01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 5: for Week one. But you know, like there's a part

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01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:48,640
Speaker 5: of you that if you're in Anthony Richardson's camp and

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01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 5: you're like, hey, I don't want to be here anymore,

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01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:52,479
Speaker 5: all right? The colt smooth Anthony Richardson the off season,

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01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:55,000
Speaker 5: and that means like Riley Leonard could be in line

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01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:58,840
Speaker 5: to be a potential Week one starter unless he's allowed

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01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:00,519
Speaker 5: to make some sort of move in the off season.

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01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:03,400
Speaker 5: So you know, there's a little bit of me that's like, A,

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01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 5: does a healthy Riley Leonard, which I believe he was

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01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:08,519
Speaker 5: a full participant in practice all week long, does he

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01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:10,320
Speaker 5: give you a better shot to go win on Sunday

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01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:10,879
Speaker 5: in Seattle?

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01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:11,880
Speaker 8: Let's start there.

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01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 5: And then B is there any part of you that says, well,

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01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:20,240
Speaker 5: even if that's a coin flip at fifty to fifty,

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01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 5: I feel like, you know, we have to make sure

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01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:25,160
Speaker 5: that hey, Ryley Leonard gets these reps because he's a

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01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 5: developmental quarterback and you know he might be the guy

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01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:31,400
Speaker 5: for a chunk to start next season, which you know

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01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:33,920
Speaker 5: it's probably premature, but it's at least a thought of.

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Speaker 1: Ed I mean, Kevin would it could have, should have,

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01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 1: I realize, but doesn't it make And look, the Anthony

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01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:45,800
Speaker 1: Richardson injury is, in its own right, you know, a

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01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 1: terrible thing, just for the sake of Anthony Richardson, you know,

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01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:52,120
Speaker 1: for you feel for the guy because it's at no

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01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:55,240
Speaker 1: one's fault and certainly not Anthony Richardson's fault that a

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01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 1: freak accident leads him to an orbital eye injury.

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01:45:59,240 --> 01:46:01,759
Speaker 3: But do you agree?

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01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:05,640
Speaker 1: Is my thought that if with everything that happened, if

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01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:08,559
Speaker 1: Richardson was available at the very least, the Colts put

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01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:10,479
Speaker 1: him out there not just to kind of salvage this

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01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:13,960
Speaker 1: season instead of Philip Rivers, but also to showcase who

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01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:17,679
Speaker 1: and what he might be to then intrigue someone else

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01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:19,880
Speaker 1: to trade for him. If Daniel Jones is their long

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01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:22,800
Speaker 1: term answer and they're now denied that, do you think

2189
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:23,680
Speaker 1: they see it that way?

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01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:25,400
Speaker 8: Yeah?

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01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's definitely a part of that, not

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01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:32,519
Speaker 5: to mention in reviving a stagnant run game, I think

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01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:34,920
Speaker 5: having a run threat at quarterback, like right now, the

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01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:35,479
Speaker 5: Colts run.

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01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 2: Game is struggling.

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01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:40,040
Speaker 5: Putting a forty four year old quarterback that has as

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01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 5: good of a chance to run as you know I

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01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 5: do in the Boston Marathon next year. Is the last

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Speaker 5: thing that you would want to have, you know, happen here.

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01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:52,559
Speaker 5: So I do think that is a real disappointing element

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01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:55,439
Speaker 5: to this of Yeah, even if you don't want to

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01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:58,320
Speaker 5: factor in the long term and the shopping him around

2203
01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:01,240
Speaker 5: thirty one other teams and all of that, I think

2204
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:02,840
Speaker 5: it would come in handy to try and get Jonathan

2205
01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:06,800
Speaker 5: Taylor going again. So that part is definitely there. And

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01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:09,880
Speaker 5: it's just wild that we're sitting here on whatever it is,

2207
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:15,080
Speaker 5: December thirteenth, twelfth and we are literally talking about Philip

2208
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:18,000
Speaker 5: Rivers starting more games this season than Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and again, I go back and forth, Kevin.

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01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:30,559
Speaker 1: Part of me thinks this is the most absurd, Holy cow,

2211
01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:32,960
Speaker 1: there's going to be a thirty for thirty about like

2212
01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:36,759
Speaker 1: the lunacy, kind of like the hiring of Jeff's Saturday

2213
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:39,880
Speaker 1: out of Nowhere type feel to it. And then there's

2214
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:43,240
Speaker 1: part of me that also is like, this might work

2215
01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:46,360
Speaker 1: and be brilliant. I go back and forth, Kevin, I

2216
01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:48,800
Speaker 1: don't know. It depends on the hour. On which way

2217
01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:50,200
Speaker 1: I think on that, I mean, are you in that

2218
01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:50,800
Speaker 1: same camp?

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01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:55,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I struggle to find a ton of

2220
01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:58,000
Speaker 5: confidence and the brilliancy of it, to be totally honest

2221
01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:02,320
Speaker 5: with you, given the opponent, give in the location, and

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01:48:02,520 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 5: given the fact that to me, Philip Rivers right now

2223
01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 5: looks like Tim Allen trying to save Christmas. But there,

2224
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:12,160
Speaker 5: I mean the whole movie Angle. Oh, there's no denying that.

2225
01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:15,160
Speaker 5: I mean, how many times, even in like settings with

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01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:16,920
Speaker 5: your buddies, do.

2227
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:19,360
Speaker 8: You feel like it has been discussed? Like, hey, do

2228
01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 8: you think you can go out there and play?

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01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:20,840
Speaker 7: Ah?

2230
01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:22,080
Speaker 3: I mean yet, no question.

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01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:26,360
Speaker 5: It's like one of the more popular topics athlete non athlete,

2232
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:28,160
Speaker 5: you know, no matter the sport.

2233
01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:30,479
Speaker 8: You know, how many points do you think X player

2234
01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 8: at x age could give you in an NBA game?

2235
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:34,840
Speaker 8: You know, like just like things like that.

2236
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:39,719
Speaker 5: And now it's legitimately happening at as the NFL quarterback,

2237
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:41,920
Speaker 5: and Philip Rivers is already like a he's like a

2238
01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:45,479
Speaker 5: fictional character anyways, you know, just how his aura and

2239
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:48,040
Speaker 5: how he talks and how he acts.

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Speaker 8: And how he throws it and how he played the game.

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01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:53,120
Speaker 5: And I mean we've seen it firsthand, probably more than

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01:48:53,120 --> 01:48:56,400
Speaker 5: any other market around the NFL and not named the Chargers,

2243
01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:59,840
Speaker 5: So that aspect I think just kind of plays into

2244
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 5: it even more. And the culture in the hunt. I mean,

2245
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:05,759
Speaker 5: you are eight and five and you still have a chance.

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01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:09,200
Speaker 5: And yeah, I mean all of it is movie like. Now,

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01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:11,840
Speaker 5: the question is, you know, how crazy is it going

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01:49:11,880 --> 01:49:13,760
Speaker 5: to be or how nightmarish is it going to be?

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01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:17,880
Speaker 1: Now, your son Max Bowen Kevin Bowen does a video

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Speaker 1: each and every week where his son uses Now are

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01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:23,479
Speaker 1: those tongs? Is that what he's using now to pick

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01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:25,840
Speaker 1: up the helm I mean, is this a germ things?

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01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:27,599
Speaker 1: What's with that when he picks up the helmet.

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01:49:28,439 --> 01:49:30,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's kind of adopted these.

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01:49:30,439 --> 01:49:33,559
Speaker 5: He calls him as shompers, but yes, you know, many

2256
01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:35,720
Speaker 5: salatongs is probably the best way to put it.

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01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:37,479
Speaker 8: You know, he's adopted this now.

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01:49:38,439 --> 01:49:40,280
Speaker 5: I feel like it's been all season long and maybe

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01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:41,599
Speaker 5: even dating back to last year.

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Speaker 8: That's how he picks up at helmets. No, thankfully it's

2261
01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:45,639
Speaker 8: not COVID related.

2262
01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:47,800
Speaker 5: I know Philip Rivers makes us think back to COVID,

2263
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:50,320
Speaker 5: but nothing to do with COVID. But yes, that's how

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01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:52,880
Speaker 5: he picks the helmet. He literally chomps one of the

2265
01:49:52,920 --> 01:49:53,760
Speaker 5: helmets up in the air.

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01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:57,599
Speaker 1: Okay, and since it's already out there on social media,

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01:49:57,680 --> 01:50:00,560
Speaker 1: we can go ahead and reveal this. He was on

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01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:04,000
Speaker 1: a bit of a streak in picking the Colts. Now

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01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:05,519
Speaker 1: that's not to say he was on a win streak,

2270
01:50:05,600 --> 01:50:07,320
Speaker 1: but he had What where did he stand? Was he

2271
01:50:07,360 --> 01:50:08,080
Speaker 1: on a losing streak?

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01:50:08,160 --> 01:50:08,519
Speaker 3: Is that right?

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01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:09,840
Speaker 8: Yeah?

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01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:12,280
Speaker 5: I think because like you said, he's kind of been

2275
01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:14,439
Speaker 5: rolling with the Colts lately. Obviously that hasn't gone well.

2276
01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:17,400
Speaker 5: So he ended up picking the Seahawks this week. He

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01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:18,720
Speaker 5: asked me at the end of the video, off the

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01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:20,120
Speaker 5: seahawks are big or small?

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01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:21,160
Speaker 8: How would you have answered?

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01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:23,840
Speaker 3: I think as birds go, they're bigger.

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01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:27,559
Speaker 1: Right, they're technically an osprey, they're actually they're basically well,

2282
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:28,920
Speaker 1: they're hawks that live by the sea.

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01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:33,759
Speaker 3: Right, I think they're big. What did you say, dear lord?

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01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:36,519
Speaker 5: Did you did you get a zoology degree when you

2285
01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:37,760
Speaker 5: went back a few years ago?

2286
01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:41,000
Speaker 3: What was that you didn't know? You're not familiar with

2287
01:50:41,080 --> 01:50:42,920
Speaker 3: the osprey? O? S p R E.

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01:50:43,320 --> 01:50:45,120
Speaker 7: Y Man, I.

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01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:47,840
Speaker 8: Remember the map shooter you had. I didn't know you were,

2290
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:49,200
Speaker 8: you know, volunteer at the.

2291
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:52,040
Speaker 1: Zoo three days a week. They don't have any seahawks

2292
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:55,160
Speaker 1: at the Indianapolis Zoo. I don't think they have ospreys,

2293
01:50:55,360 --> 01:50:58,719
Speaker 1: but hawks rather big birds, and then birds of prey

2294
01:50:59,120 --> 01:51:03,280
Speaker 1: that actually live off of marine biology would be an osprey,

2295
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:05,519
Speaker 1: which is a seahawk big bird.

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01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:08,200
Speaker 5: Honestly, I don't know if you've thought about it, because

2297
01:51:08,240 --> 01:51:11,160
Speaker 5: you still obviously have a fastball. But you know, whenever

2298
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:15,599
Speaker 5: retirement does creep in for you, I think your retirement job.

2299
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:16,840
Speaker 8: You know, we get a lot of these.

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01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:19,719
Speaker 5: Mascots and nowadays are a little iffy. You know, we've

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01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:21,800
Speaker 5: had a changse in high school nicknames. We've had a

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01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:24,920
Speaker 5: chance some pro nicknames. Anybody that has to use a

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01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:26,360
Speaker 5: third party to consult in.

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01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:28,840
Speaker 8: A new mascot, you need to be the person na.

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01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 3: You know what that would be. That's actually a dream

2306
01:51:33,040 --> 01:51:34,519
Speaker 3: gig if you really want to know the truth.

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01:51:34,680 --> 01:51:36,720
Speaker 1: I appreciate you also saying that I've not lost my

2308
01:51:36,880 --> 01:51:38,920
Speaker 1: I don't know that I ever had a fastball, but

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01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:41,120
Speaker 1: the fact that I'm still throwing at eighty two miles

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01:51:41,120 --> 01:51:42,040
Speaker 1: an hour, I appreciate it.

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01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:45,280
Speaker 5: No, you're not an Yeah, I would say I rolled

2312
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:46,519
Speaker 5: the Shabman's still alive and well.

2313
01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 1: In your arm well, thank you. I appreciate that. So

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01:51:49,600 --> 01:51:52,120
Speaker 1: your son did go with the Seahawks. They are a

2315
01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:55,040
Speaker 1: big bird. We'll see how big they are though, coming

2316
01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:58,479
Speaker 1: up this Sunday at out in Seattle, and then the

2317
01:51:58,520 --> 01:52:00,880
Speaker 1: cults are back home. San Francis goes here right Monday

2318
01:52:00,920 --> 01:52:01,360
Speaker 1: night football.

2319
01:52:01,439 --> 01:52:03,559
Speaker 8: Right Monday Nights football.

2320
01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:07,320
Speaker 5: I would assume to force Buckner and maybe Sauce Gardner

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01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:08,559
Speaker 5: back for that one.

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01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:11,880
Speaker 1: All right, Kevin, Indiana, Kentucky this weekend as well. You

2323
01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:15,160
Speaker 1: guys will have plenty to talk about coming up on Monday,

2324
01:52:15,320 --> 01:52:18,479
Speaker 1: and a Heisman Trophy that I truly believe is going

2325
01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:22,240
Speaker 1: to be in Bloomington, Indiana with Fernando Mendoza. So plenty

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01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:24,240
Speaker 1: that we'll be talked about starting at seven o'clock in

2327
01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:26,760
Speaker 1: the morning on the Fan Morning Show. Jeff Rickard, James

2328
01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 1: Boyd and Kevin Bowen. Appreciate it and enjoy the weekend. Kevin,

2329
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:32,200
Speaker 1: you boys have a great weekend as well.

2330
01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:32,519
Speaker 8: Thank you.

2331
01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:34,840
Speaker 1: That is Kevin Bowen joining us, Java House Peel and

2332
01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:37,080
Speaker 1: poor guest line. All right, when we come back, it

2333
01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:39,040
Speaker 1: is a Friday, it is the bottom of the hour,

2334
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:42,639
Speaker 1: and there is a sports story that took place earlier today.

2335
01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:46,719
Speaker 1: The end of a season, the end of a great season,

2336
01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:50,360
Speaker 1: but more importantly, the end of a season that was

2337
01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:53,599
Speaker 1: a new beginning. I will tell you exactly what I'm

2338
01:52:53,640 --> 01:52:56,320
Speaker 1: talking about in our Franciscan Health, feel Good, good for

2339
01:52:56,360 --> 01:52:57,919
Speaker 1: the hard Friday, and I'll do it next.

2340
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:01,400
Speaker 5: And it is.

2341
01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:04,479
Speaker 3: The bottom of the two o'clock hour.

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01:53:04,520 --> 01:53:09,200
Speaker 1: You know what that means, Franciscan, Franciscan, I should say

2343
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:12,760
Speaker 1: Franciscan health, feel good, good for the heart Friday. And

2344
01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:18,240
Speaker 1: first off, again want to thank everybody that came out.

2345
01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:21,000
Speaker 1: We had a huge turnout and a ton of fun

2346
01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:28,080
Speaker 1: and another successful health fare for men celebrating November. We

2347
01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:30,400
Speaker 1: did that last week at Gougman House Brewing and it

2348
01:53:30,520 --> 01:53:30,840
Speaker 1: was fun.

2349
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:32,000
Speaker 5: You know.

2350
01:53:32,120 --> 01:53:33,920
Speaker 1: I did One of the things that I did was

2351
01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:38,920
Speaker 1: a lung screening and it was weird, like I was

2352
01:53:39,200 --> 01:53:42,000
Speaker 1: like I would say choking under pressure.

2353
01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:43,000
Speaker 3: That's the wrong way of saying it.

2354
01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:44,920
Speaker 1: But I couldn't do the It was basically like doing

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Speaker 1: a breathalyzer type thing and I couldn't like breathe out

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Speaker 1: long enough. And they were great and saying like no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: you're not doing this correct from your abdomen. And then

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Speaker 1: to be able to get a full screening of your lungs,

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Speaker 1: oral cancer screenings, blood sugar people were able to test

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Speaker 1: with that all kinds of different booths set up where

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Speaker 1: men and women were able to go around and find

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Speaker 1: out everything just in terms of their health. And we're

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Speaker 1: going to in twenty twenty six talk a lot about

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Speaker 1: the cardiovascular health for women because I think we oftentimes,

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Speaker 1: especially on a sports talk show, you think about, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Sanford and Sun grabber, if you will, and it

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Speaker 1: being a guy's thing. But the first step towards a

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Speaker 1: healthy heart is of course the heart scan forty nine

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Speaker 1: dollars heart scan. It is so easy to do, especially

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Speaker 1: and it's very important if you're over the age of forty,

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Speaker 1: if you've been a smoker, or you are still a smoker,

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Speaker 1: if you've had diabetes, or you have battled with obesity

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Speaker 1: or family heart history of heart disease, then certainly you

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Speaker 1: want to look into that forty nine dollars heart scan,

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Speaker 1: non invasive, simple to do, and it gives you just

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Speaker 1: kind of a heart health risk assessment. You also get

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Speaker 1: from Franciscan Health with it, and you can always get

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Speaker 1: that heart screening at or set up for it at

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Speaker 1: eight three three two three eight zero six eight eight.

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Speaker 1: That's eight three three two three eight zero six eight eight.

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Speaker 1: That is the telephone number Franciscanhealth dot org slash screening bundles.

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Speaker 1: You can always text me or simply google Franciscan Health

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Speaker 1: heart scan if you would like to find out more

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01:55:17,640 --> 01:55:20,800
Speaker 1: information about that. But I love and we're going to talk.

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Speaker 1: You know, women when it comes to heart disease, that

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01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:26,680
Speaker 1: is in you know, an important thing to keep in

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Speaker 1: mind because there are so many other areas I think

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01:55:28,840 --> 01:55:31,000
Speaker 1: of women's health that you think about before you think

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01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:34,760
Speaker 1: about the heart itself. But I love featuring and I

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01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:38,720
Speaker 1: love for Franciscan giving me the platform to feature feel

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01:55:38,760 --> 01:55:41,440
Speaker 1: good stories and people that are making a difference throughout

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Speaker 1: Central Indiana. Like for example, I mentioned earlier this week,

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Speaker 1: and it's not sports related, but when I was doing

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01:55:50,720 --> 01:55:53,360
Speaker 1: my walking around as I do each and every year,

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01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:56,000
Speaker 1: and I'm walking around the mall, and I went into

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Speaker 1: the Market Square Popcorn, which is just a popcorn kiosk

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Speaker 1: in the middle of cast and Square Mall.

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Speaker 3: And I mentioned this just two days ago.

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Speaker 1: But this young guy, high school kid junior at Lawrence North,

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Speaker 1: alex is his name, and I just was immediately taken

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Speaker 1: by his professionalism, his courtesy, and just his overwhelming I

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01:56:18,720 --> 01:56:21,840
Speaker 1: could tell like this zest that he had for people

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01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:24,360
Speaker 1: and for life itself. And I was so impressed that

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01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:27,320
Speaker 1: not only here he was as a high school kid

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01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:31,200
Speaker 1: working a job after school and trying to make money

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01:56:31,280 --> 01:56:33,960
Speaker 1: that way as a junior, but also for that company

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Speaker 1: to be able to give opportunity. You know, you don't

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01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 1: see a lot of high school kids working anymore, and

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01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:40,960
Speaker 1: a lot of those jobs have gone away. So for

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Speaker 1: them to give him the opportunity to get out there

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Speaker 1: and just learn people skills and business skills and other

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Speaker 1: such things, he was super impressive. And I did a

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Speaker 1: little video of him and put it out and then

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01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:53,600
Speaker 1: mentioned him on the air, and the number of people

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01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:55,280
Speaker 1: that have reached out to me that said, oh my gosh.

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01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:57,520
Speaker 1: You know, one gentleman reached out to me and said,

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Speaker 1: Alex is part of the youth group that I do

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Speaker 1: at my church, and great kid. And seeing those stories

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01:57:03,320 --> 01:57:06,000
Speaker 1: just kids that are doing what they need to he's

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Speaker 1: the youngest of seven. Is Alex to find his way

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Speaker 1: through life.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes those stories come into sport, and sometimes when

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01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:17,000
Speaker 1: they come into sport, they come to us because of

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01:57:18,320 --> 01:57:22,000
Speaker 1: something that becomes on the radar with an adversity and

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Speaker 1: overcoming an adversity. And one of the things when we

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Speaker 1: talk about women's health in particular, that obviously I have

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01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:31,720
Speaker 1: not been as familiar with as a man, but I

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01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:33,160
Speaker 1: certainly have always known.

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Speaker 3: Of toxic shock syndrome.

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01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:41,800
Speaker 1: Toxic toxic shock syndrome is it can be fatal, but

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01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:44,240
Speaker 1: it is an illness caused by toxins that can come

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01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:47,400
Speaker 1: in from you know, usually some sort of a bacteria.

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Speaker 1: And in the case of women, truth be told, you know,

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Speaker 1: tampons are one of the things that toxic shock is.

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01:57:55,520 --> 01:57:58,320
Speaker 1: You know, there's warning labels that go on there for women.

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01:57:58,400 --> 01:58:01,360
Speaker 1: And then also it can come just from like a

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01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:07,080
Speaker 1: staff infection or a strep infection more specifically like strep

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01:58:07,160 --> 01:58:09,880
Speaker 1: throat for example, And it's a bacteria that gets into

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Speaker 1: the body and creates a toxins that then can become fatal.

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01:58:13,800 --> 01:58:17,040
Speaker 1: It can lead to the shutdown of organs. And it

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Speaker 1: does not discriminate on who it hits, including those that

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01:58:21,800 --> 01:58:25,480
Speaker 1: might be elite level athletes. Now, I want to go

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01:58:25,640 --> 01:58:29,760
Speaker 1: back to May of twenty twenty four, not long ago

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Speaker 1: at all. May of twenty twenty four, think about that, Okay,

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Speaker 1: in May of twenty twenty four, for example, Joseph Knugarten's

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Speaker 1: winning his second Indy five hundred not long ago, right,

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Speaker 1: May of twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: And I'm trying to think, Eddie, who did the Pacers

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01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:51,000
Speaker 3: lose to?

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01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:53,600
Speaker 1: Not this year in the finals, but the year before

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01:58:53,640 --> 01:58:55,680
Speaker 1: that they had gone to the Eastern Conference Finals?

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01:58:55,720 --> 01:58:59,440
Speaker 3: Correct? Did they? I was thinking they went to the

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Speaker 3: Eastern Conference Finals? Am I wrong? In twenty four?

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Speaker 1: In twenty four, they wasn't that when they defeated New

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01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:11,800
Speaker 1: York in round two and then they went to the

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01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:14,360
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference finals and they were defeated by But who

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01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:15,240
Speaker 1: wasn't the best man?

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01:59:15,640 --> 01:59:16,240
Speaker 3: Was it Boston?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: By Boston.

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Speaker 1: So I guess that does seem longer ago because we

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01:59:21,200 --> 01:59:23,560
Speaker 1: we had to think about that, But obviously it was

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01:59:23,920 --> 01:59:26,880
Speaker 1: you know, the finals overruns that. But may have twenty

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01:59:26,880 --> 01:59:28,960
Speaker 1: four not long ago. So I want you to think

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01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:33,200
Speaker 1: about Charlotte Vinson, who is a volleyball player. We have

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Speaker 1: mentioned her before at Yorktown High School and Munsey is

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Speaker 1: a fertile ground for volleyball, okay, and Charlotte had taken

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Speaker 1: her team to the state finals as a sophomore. As

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Speaker 1: a junior, she is a nationally ranked top twenty five recruit,

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Speaker 1: one of widely considered by many to be the best player,

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Speaker 1: certainly in Indiana as a junior, and she's enjoying a

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Speaker 1: solid sea as a junior. Her junior year, she had

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Speaker 1: already committed to Indiana University to play volleyball and Charlotte

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Speaker 1: in May of twenty four, again not long ago. What

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Speaker 1: what is that seventeen months ago, eighteen months ago, suddenly

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02:00:15,720 --> 02:00:21,080
Speaker 1: gets a fever, starts becoming sweaty, almost gets like some

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02:00:21,200 --> 02:00:25,320
Speaker 1: sort of delusion, and it turns out that due to

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Speaker 1: a strap bacteria, her body was going into toxic shock syndrome.

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02:00:33,840 --> 02:00:38,960
Speaker 1: So her mom immediately realizes something is wrong, but time

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02:00:39,080 --> 02:00:42,520
Speaker 1: is of the essence. They rush her for medical attention

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Speaker 1: and she ends up having to get airlifted to Indianapolis,

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02:00:46,480 --> 02:00:51,240
Speaker 1: where eventually she goes into a coma, wakes up out

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Speaker 1: of it and starts to see visions. Starts to see

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Speaker 1: her grandmother, who had passed away in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Of course, she says this now retroactively.

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Speaker 3: At the time, she was even able to communicate to

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Speaker 3: anybody what was going on. So here you have.

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Speaker 1: A young girl at the age of sixteen who is

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Speaker 1: one of the best volleyball players in the United States

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02:01:10,320 --> 02:01:12,800
Speaker 1: of America, with her entire future in front of her.

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Speaker 1: At Indiana University, a program in volleyball that is tapping

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02:01:17,160 --> 02:01:20,920
Speaker 1: into that fertile recruiting ground in Muncie and believing in

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02:01:20,960 --> 02:01:23,360
Speaker 1: people like Charlotte to be able to lift their program

2495
02:01:23,520 --> 02:01:26,680
Speaker 1: like you've seen with other athletic programs at Indiana University.

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Speaker 1: But just when she starts to come out of that darkness,

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Speaker 1: she slips back into it, goes into a coma for

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Speaker 1: five days.

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Speaker 3: Her they bring in.

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Speaker 1: The last rites to be read to her because it

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02:01:42,400 --> 02:01:44,800
Speaker 1: is believed by her family that in fact, in the

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02:01:44,880 --> 02:01:48,320
Speaker 1: hospital believes that she is not going to survive. She'd

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02:01:48,360 --> 02:01:54,200
Speaker 1: lost twenty pounds, mostly muscle obviously, But then her body

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02:01:54,240 --> 02:01:57,760
Speaker 1: starts to come back, and she starts to rally back,

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02:01:57,880 --> 02:02:00,400
Speaker 1: and she gets back to the point where where she

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02:02:00,600 --> 02:02:03,920
Speaker 1: comes back and says, Okay, I am now on the

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02:02:04,080 --> 02:02:09,160
Speaker 1: path of survival and health, but I still have volleyball

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02:02:09,480 --> 02:02:13,680
Speaker 1: to lean into to give myself continued goals not just

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Speaker 1: of survival but also of getting back to what I

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02:02:17,320 --> 02:02:20,640
Speaker 1: once was getting that muscle back, getting back into a regiment,

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02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:25,280
Speaker 1: and then her senior year comes along by September and

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02:02:25,440 --> 02:02:28,800
Speaker 1: she has the goal of returning to play volleyball for Yorktown,

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Speaker 1: and the coach says, I understand, but we've got to

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02:02:33,000 --> 02:02:36,040
Speaker 1: do this over the course of time to make sure

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Speaker 1: that we are on the right path and to make

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02:02:39,120 --> 02:02:43,280
Speaker 1: sure that you are getting healthy. And yet Charlotte does

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02:02:43,440 --> 02:02:46,840
Speaker 1: all of those things and then still makes it down

2518
02:02:46,880 --> 02:02:49,640
Speaker 1: to Indiana University to play this year for the IU

2519
02:02:49,760 --> 02:02:53,360
Speaker 1: volleyball team, and the IU volleyball team just a couple

2520
02:02:53,400 --> 02:02:56,360
Speaker 1: of hours ago, for only the second time in school history,

2521
02:02:56,440 --> 02:03:00,320
Speaker 1: played in the NCAA Tournament Volleyball Women's Sweet sign team,

2522
02:03:01,600 --> 02:03:03,760
Speaker 1: and just about an hour ago, their season came to

2523
02:03:03,800 --> 02:03:06,960
Speaker 1: an end, and it came to an end at the

2524
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Speaker 1: hands of the University of Texas, who advances to the

2525
02:03:09,440 --> 02:03:11,880
Speaker 1: Elite eight. But one of the two best seasons in

2526
02:03:11,960 --> 02:03:14,880
Speaker 1: the history of Indiana University volleyball has come to an end.

2527
02:03:15,240 --> 02:03:19,200
Speaker 1: But most importantly, that means the freshman season of Charlotte

2528
02:03:19,280 --> 02:03:21,920
Speaker 1: Vincent has come to an end. Charlotte, who began playing

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02:03:21,960 --> 02:03:24,760
Speaker 1: for Indiana in active rotation ten games end of the year,

2530
02:03:24,880 --> 02:03:27,720
Speaker 1: this year and was an integral part of what Indiana

2531
02:03:27,800 --> 02:03:30,360
Speaker 1: did as a volleyball program, as one of the best

2532
02:03:30,400 --> 02:03:33,760
Speaker 1: players ever to be recruited by it, but in overcoming

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02:03:34,200 --> 02:03:37,080
Speaker 1: every possible obstacle, but never losing sight of what her

2534
02:03:37,200 --> 02:03:40,040
Speaker 1: vision was, with a family, a group of friends, and

2535
02:03:40,120 --> 02:03:44,040
Speaker 1: a community that rallied around her and believed in her

2536
02:03:44,160 --> 02:03:46,000
Speaker 1: like she believed in herself and her ability to get

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02:03:46,000 --> 02:03:49,440
Speaker 1: back on the volleyball court. And so yes, Indiana who

2538
02:03:49,480 --> 02:03:52,960
Speaker 1: had an unbelievable season in volleyball, and congratulations to him

2539
02:03:53,000 --> 02:03:56,320
Speaker 1: forgetting to the sweet sixteen, and no shame in losing

2540
02:03:56,400 --> 02:03:59,200
Speaker 1: to Texas, a dominant program, a very good program.

2541
02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:05,760
Speaker 3: But for Charlotte, it is just the beginning. And once again,

2542
02:04:06,440 --> 02:04:09,520
Speaker 3: when she got out of that coma, when she knew

2543
02:04:09,960 --> 02:04:13,240
Speaker 3: that she'd lost twenty pounds, when she knew that due

2544
02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:18,080
Speaker 3: to this illness, that again came on like that, when

2545
02:04:18,080 --> 02:04:21,080
Speaker 3: a lot of people thought that for volleyball at the

2546
02:04:21,280 --> 02:04:24,920
Speaker 3: very least, that would have been the end, she saw

2547
02:04:25,000 --> 02:04:28,400
Speaker 3: it as No, this is just the beginning. And even

2548
02:04:28,440 --> 02:04:31,360
Speaker 3: though their season has come to an end, for Charlotte

2549
02:04:31,400 --> 02:04:34,400
Speaker 3: and for Indiana volleyball in general, it is just the beginning.

2550
02:04:34,640 --> 02:04:36,600
Speaker 3: And I think that there are other examples that we've

2551
02:04:36,640 --> 02:04:40,160
Speaker 3: seen in Bloomington that, in fact, when a team believes,

2552
02:04:40,800 --> 02:04:43,640
Speaker 3: a team can go on to even more and Charlotte

2553
02:04:43,680 --> 02:04:47,280
Speaker 3: did exactly that, And I think it's an unbelievable story

2554
02:04:47,360 --> 02:04:50,960
Speaker 3: of perseverance and belief as well as community and faith,

2555
02:04:51,480 --> 02:04:53,440
Speaker 3: and it's one of those things we celebrate when it

2556
02:04:53,520 --> 02:04:56,360
Speaker 3: comes to our Franciscan Health feel good good for the

2557
02:04:56,400 --> 02:04:58,720
Speaker 3: hert Friday and the fact that Charlotte is back on

2558
02:04:58,800 --> 02:05:01,000
Speaker 3: that healthy path and doing what she loves doing and

2559
02:05:01,120 --> 02:05:03,520
Speaker 3: doing it for a school that she dreamed of playing

2560
02:05:03,600 --> 02:05:07,080
Speaker 3: for and committed to before she got ill again.

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Speaker 1: Forty nine dollars heart scan. It is so simple, it

2562
02:05:09,480 --> 02:05:11,760
Speaker 1: is not invasive. You get the heart health risk assessment

2563
02:05:11,840 --> 02:05:14,560
Speaker 1: with it and you get basically the idea then of

2564
02:05:14,640 --> 02:05:17,960
Speaker 1: what the calcium score is within your heart and making

2565
02:05:18,040 --> 02:05:20,160
Speaker 1: sure that you are doing the right things towards a

2566
02:05:20,240 --> 02:05:24,400
Speaker 1: healthy lifestyle. And Franciscan Health partnering again to make sure

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Speaker 1: that everybody listening to the show Man woman forty under

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Speaker 1: forty whatever it might be, that we're getting everybody on

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Speaker 1: the right path towards that heart as well well come back.

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Speaker 1: We will eventually hand it over to John as part

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Speaker 1: of the crossover and see what he's got lined up

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Speaker 1: and where he's going to be for a blue Friday

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Speaker 1: on this Friday querying company on the fan.

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Speaker 3: On a show in a day that kind of flew by.

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Speaker 1: To be honest with you, Eddie Garrison, I apologize to

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Speaker 1: you because you had told me from the get go

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Speaker 1: that you were feeling a little under the weather and

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Speaker 1: as a result of that, you wanted to be kind

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Speaker 1: of primarily in the bullpen, and I just kept bringing

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Speaker 1: you on the air.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 3: I'm a team player, Jake. It's what I do. What

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Speaker 3: I am needed up ask to do, It's what I do,

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Speaker 3: right yep uh.

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Speaker 11: Love it when we are today, Jake, this is if

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Speaker 11: you remember a year ago we went back to back

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Speaker 11: at Thursday and Friday at the Depot in Greenfield. And

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Speaker 11: I know you and Shannon let to go to places

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Speaker 11: just like this to kind of soak it all up.

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Speaker 11: They have concerts in the summertime out here. They have

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Speaker 11: developed this particular area and our guy, Thomas Moore is

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Speaker 11: the owner of this place, and it is incredible. I

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Speaker 11: can tell you this. If you've never been here, Jake,

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Speaker 11: you would love the depot. You and Channa both the

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Speaker 11: depot in Greenfield outstanding. Got a little hayloft up here,

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Speaker 11: nine stairs downstairs. It's an old mill, is what it

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Speaker 11: is here in Greenfield. It's incredible, very cool. So and

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Speaker 11: I know you were psyched about it. You mentioned yesterday

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Speaker 11: that you were excited about being there.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: The one thing and I'm envious twofold in the fact

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Speaker 1: that you're out there primarily because a you get to

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02:07:30,240 --> 02:07:31,880
Speaker 1: be at an awesome spot like that, and then B,

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Speaker 1: even though this building is beautiful, this is what they've

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02:07:35,200 --> 02:07:38,320
Speaker 1: done with this new studio is awesome. But the only

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Speaker 1: drawback that I can tell, just so you know, John,

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02:07:41,720 --> 02:07:44,240
Speaker 1: it's very easy to accidentally leave your mic on, and

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02:07:44,320 --> 02:07:46,840
Speaker 1: apparently I did that during a commercial break, and my

2620
02:07:46,960 --> 02:07:49,120
Speaker 1: conversation during the break was going out over the air,

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02:07:49,320 --> 02:07:51,240
Speaker 1: and I'm lucky I didn't say anything that got me fired.

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Speaker 3: What were you talking about? I didn't hear it back here.

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02:07:54,800 --> 02:07:55,400
Speaker 3: What were you talking?

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02:07:55,600 --> 02:07:56,800
Speaker 1: So we went to the break and as soon as

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02:07:56,840 --> 02:07:58,480
Speaker 1: I went to the break, Jeff Ricker walked in and

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02:07:58,600 --> 02:08:00,200
Speaker 1: we were getting ready. It was right when we were

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02:08:00,200 --> 02:08:01,920
Speaker 1: getting ready to do the Motley Crue tickets, and so

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02:08:02,000 --> 02:08:03,880
Speaker 1: I said to Jeff, I said, hey, cause you know,

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02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:05,760
Speaker 1: some of the things they're still patching in here. The

2630
02:08:05,840 --> 02:08:08,040
Speaker 1: engineering has done a great job is setting up these studios,

2631
02:08:08,120 --> 02:08:11,280
Speaker 1: but we're still putting some things together. So I said

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02:08:11,320 --> 02:08:13,400
Speaker 1: to Jeff, now, we don't have call screening yet, right,

2633
02:08:13,480 --> 02:08:16,960
Speaker 1: And he said, no, they don't. And then I made

2634
02:08:17,040 --> 02:08:19,760
Speaker 1: the mention to him about the fact that I was

2635
02:08:19,800 --> 02:08:21,960
Speaker 1: trying to get Fananda Mendoza on the show for next

2636
02:08:22,080 --> 02:08:25,200
Speaker 1: week and that IU has basically said now that they

2637
02:08:25,280 --> 02:08:29,320
Speaker 1: are surrendering that access over to Drew Rosenhaus's agent, and

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02:08:29,360 --> 02:08:30,960
Speaker 1: I said, you know, it's college football today.

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Speaker 3: I get it right. And so we were having that

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02:08:33,440 --> 02:08:35,160
Speaker 3: conversation for pie thirty seconds or so.

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Speaker 1: So nothing nothing too out, Okay, well be a different story,

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Speaker 1: very intriguing.

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Speaker 3: And that's you and I were in here.

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Speaker 8: That is the way.

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Speaker 11: That is the Yeah, that's the way that interviews. Yeah,

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02:08:46,520 --> 02:08:48,240
Speaker 11: if I were in there with you, we'd be all screwed.

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02:08:48,320 --> 02:08:52,880
Speaker 11: That'sgot about that. But no, can you imagine what I'd

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02:08:52,920 --> 02:08:55,640
Speaker 11: be saying. So, yeah, that's that's not good. But no,

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02:08:56,200 --> 02:08:58,680
Speaker 11: I love what they're doing and I'm going to get

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Speaker 11: my taste of it coming up on Sunday, but getting

2651
02:09:01,240 --> 02:09:02,640
Speaker 11: at one thirty for the Coltsport.

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02:09:03,440 --> 02:09:06,520
Speaker 1: And by the way, John, you pointed this out as well.

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02:09:06,680 --> 02:09:09,480
Speaker 1: Are you Philip Rivers or getting the start?

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02:09:09,880 --> 02:09:10,480
Speaker 3: What do you think?

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02:09:11,640 --> 02:09:14,280
Speaker 1: I think Rivers gets the start. I think they play

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02:09:14,360 --> 02:09:16,960
Speaker 1: at Koy for the gamesmanship of it. But it's got

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02:09:17,040 --> 02:09:17,960
Speaker 1: to be Philip Rivers, right.

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02:09:21,480 --> 02:09:24,040
Speaker 3: I would think there's a reason why you're doing what

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Speaker 3: he's doing.

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02:09:24,760 --> 02:09:26,680
Speaker 11: It wouldn't make sense, I think, to come out of

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02:09:27,000 --> 02:09:31,400
Speaker 11: five year retirement and back up Ridley Leonard. Correct, But listen,

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02:09:31,560 --> 02:09:34,760
Speaker 11: this organization and coaching staff has got some wackiness there,

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02:09:34,960 --> 02:09:40,200
Speaker 11: right and there well, if not winning entertainment value, certainly.

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Speaker 1: Hey, John, did you say that it was wild Side

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Speaker 1: and not Girls Girls Girls that was filmed in Indy?

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Speaker 3: Because I credited you with that on the air.

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Speaker 11: That's worse, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, shout out to Cindy,

2668
02:09:51,560 --> 02:09:53,920
Speaker 11: by the way, who was in the wild Side video? Now,

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02:09:54,400 --> 02:09:56,400
Speaker 11: did Sidney talk? Did she like lift up a shirt

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Speaker 11: or anything like that? You know, somebody in that video

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02:09:58,360 --> 02:09:59,200
Speaker 11: lifted up a shirt.

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Speaker 1: I was I wasn't going to ask that to her

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02:10:01,600 --> 02:10:03,440
Speaker 1: because I was kind of dicey on whether or not

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02:10:03,520 --> 02:10:06,560
Speaker 1: she actually even likes me. But I was curious of

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02:10:06,640 --> 02:10:08,760
Speaker 1: that factor, right she said, though she was only in

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02:10:08,840 --> 02:10:11,440
Speaker 1: it for one one million of a second, So we

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02:10:11,560 --> 02:10:12,080
Speaker 1: shall see.

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Speaker 3: We shall see. But John, what's lined up on the

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Speaker 3: Big show today?

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Speaker 11: I don't care back back then especially, Yeah, Jacob, we

2681
02:10:20,880 --> 02:10:22,400
Speaker 11: get a big one lined up for you too. By

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02:10:22,400 --> 02:10:24,480
Speaker 11: the way, I was always a big fan of partial nudity,

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02:10:24,600 --> 02:10:26,560
Speaker 11: no matter where it came, no matter if it was

2684
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Speaker 11: a split second or whatever. But Don Fisher, Voice of

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Speaker 11: the Hoosiers, Top of the Hour of Course with Mendoza

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02:10:32,800 --> 02:10:36,040
Speaker 11: Talk with Iu Basketball Talk. You talked about Kentucky on

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Speaker 11: your show a little bit earlier. I think Joeli Erickson

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Speaker 11: is going to join us Philip Rivers Conversation now. I

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02:10:42,120 --> 02:10:45,680
Speaker 11: think Ralphie Peter Billingsley was supposed to be on the

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Speaker 11: show today, but he may move that back until early

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Speaker 11: next week. I've never had Peter Billingsley on this show before,

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Speaker 11: and they reached out and I thought, what the hell?

2693
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Speaker 11: Mon as well, just not on a Monday. After Philip

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Speaker 11: Rivers plays quarterback at forty four on the road against

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Speaker 11: Seattle and the IU quarterback wins the Heisman. That's the

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Speaker 11: only time I'm probably not going to go to the

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Speaker 11: bullpen and call on Ralphie from a Christmas story, So

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02:11:09,720 --> 02:11:11,560
Speaker 11: that is later on in the week we'll do that.

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Speaker 11: But he was supposed to be on today. I'm not

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Speaker 11: quite sure if he's gonna make it.

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait until Christmas Eve when that movie is

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02:11:17,800 --> 02:11:21,080
Speaker 1: on a marathon for twenty four straight hours. But John

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Speaker 1: gonna be fascinating coming up on Sunday. I know you'll

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Speaker 1: have the pre game as well, but we will hand

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Speaker 1: it over to you here in just a couple of

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Speaker 1: minutes to let you set it all up. All right,

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02:11:30,760 --> 02:11:32,680
Speaker 1: J and V at the deep patch about there we

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02:11:32,720 --> 02:11:34,840
Speaker 1: go jamb out and the depot in Greenfield, so we

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Speaker 1: will throw it out to him in just a minute.

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Speaker 1: All right, Eddie, it is time to give our score predictions.

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Speaker 1: For me, I do think Rivers is going to start.

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02:11:41,160 --> 02:11:43,240
Speaker 1: Maybe we're proven wrong in that, but I agree with John.

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02:11:43,240 --> 02:11:44,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't come all the way out here

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02:11:44,360 --> 02:11:47,320
Speaker 1: unless you feel or you've been told that that's going

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02:11:47,400 --> 02:11:48,120
Speaker 1: to be the indication.

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02:11:48,360 --> 02:11:50,960
Speaker 3: But and they might get a score or too.

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02:11:51,000 --> 02:11:54,200
Speaker 1: But I think Seattle and that passing game, and especially

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02:11:54,280 --> 02:11:57,040
Speaker 1: with no Mooney Ward and no Sauce Gardner out there,

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02:11:57,960 --> 02:12:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say twenty six seventeen Seattle wins on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Eddie, what say you? I got him thirty three seventeen,

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02:12:06,800 --> 02:12:08,120
Speaker 3: So you're going one more score than I am.

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Speaker 9: Huh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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02:12:08,760 --> 02:12:10,600
Speaker 3: All right. Any any games that jump out at you

2725
02:12:10,640 --> 02:12:12,480
Speaker 3: as like a lock of the day. By the way, no,

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02:12:12,640 --> 02:12:13,760
Speaker 3: I have no locks. All right.

2727
02:12:14,800 --> 02:12:17,480
Speaker 1: My lock is this Banana Mendozo is going to win

2728
02:12:17,480 --> 02:12:20,040
Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy. We will talk about plenty of stuff

2729
02:12:20,040 --> 02:12:21,200
Speaker 1: company up on Monday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you like that?

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02:12:22,600 --> 02:12:24,440
Speaker 1: Coming up on Monday, we will talk about all of

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Speaker 1: it at noon thanks to Dustin de Pirek, thanks to

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02:12:26,680 --> 02:12:29,120
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen, thanks to mac Ingele, and thanks to all

2734
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Speaker 1: of you for listening, and we will join you at

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Speaker 1: noon on Monday.

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Speaker 3: Jane V's up next. Thanks for listening to the Quarrying Company.