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Speaker 1: Let's head of the Panisikers hotline right now again Pacer

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Speaker 1: Celtics coming up tonight in Boston, the head coach of

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Speaker 1: the Pacers. We appreciate his time as a Rick Carlisle coach,

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Speaker 1: Good morning to you. How you doing?

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Speaker 2: Okay, what's happening?

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Speaker 1: I should know? This is it?

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Speaker 2: You guys?

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Speaker 1: Do the coaches pick All Star reserves? Is that correct?

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Speaker 2: Well? I don't know the exact formula, but it's one

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Speaker 2: of three parts. There's a players vote, there's a fan vote,

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Speaker 2: and then there's the coaches vote. I don't know exactly

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Speaker 2: how much weight the coaches vote carries, but I think

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Speaker 2: it's pretty significant. Rick.

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Speaker 3: When you look at the season that Pascal Siakam has had,

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Speaker 3: I know you've talked about it here on these airwaves

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Speaker 3: quite a bit. What makes him an All Star in

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Speaker 3: your eyes?

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Speaker 2: Everything? You know, just the level of play, the leadership,

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Speaker 2: you know, the way the durability he plays every game,

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Speaker 2: and we held him out two games. There was a

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Speaker 2: game in Golden State was second Edito back to back

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Speaker 2: coming out of maybe Denver, and then uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: the the second one was the was the Detroit game,

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Speaker 2: you know, coming out of the the New New Orleans

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Speaker 2: game at home. So you know, those are the only

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Speaker 2: two games he missed, and you know it was a

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Speaker 2: struggle to convince him to sit those games out. But

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Speaker 2: he's played a high level. I think he's hit either

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Speaker 2: four or five game winning shots in the in the

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Speaker 2: season that's been you know, obviously very difficult with you know,

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Speaker 2: with the with the miss games and all that kind

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Speaker 2: an ultimate professional and he's a great player.

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Speaker 1: R Carlisle with us here again, Pacers and Celtics coming

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Speaker 1: up tonight at seven thirty tip. You can hear it

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Speaker 1: right here on the fan coach Ben mcmatherin out for tonight.

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Speaker 1: You still expect him to play at some point on

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Speaker 1: this road trip.

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Speaker 2: Uh, it's possible.

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Speaker 1: When you look at I want to say, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it was a Philly game or if it

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Speaker 1: was a game over the weekend, but the TJ McConnell

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Speaker 1: reaching three thousand assists off the bench, I believe his second,

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Speaker 1: just to Lou Williams to ever accomplish that in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: What is it about TJ's makeup that has allowed him to,

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Speaker 1: you know, have a stat that obviously is defined in longevity.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's the longevity that's the starting point. I guess

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Speaker 2: the starting point is just who he is as a competitor,

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Speaker 2: which has got him on the floor. I think I've

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Speaker 2: told this story, you know, I heard this when I

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Speaker 2: got here, that, you know, when Nate McMillan was a coach,

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Speaker 2: they had acquired TJ. And I forget what the other

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Speaker 2: point guard was. It may have been Aaron Holliday or

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Speaker 2: someone someone else, I'm not exactly sure, but NATed to

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Speaker 2: TJ before the first game, you know that he wasn't

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Speaker 2: And and then in the first game of the season,

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Speaker 2: and TJ never relinquished the job after that, you know.

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Speaker 2: So he's been the backup point guard here for you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what year he was acquired. I've

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Speaker 2: it's seven or eight years, and you know, all that

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Speaker 3: One more on TJ Rick from a conditioning standpoint, what

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Speaker 3: does that look like behind the scenes, because when we

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Speaker 2: Well it is, and it's it's year round stuff. You know,

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Speaker 2: And now you know, players work out all year round.

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Speaker 2: Players are more durable in many ways. And you know, guys,

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Speaker 2: great care of himself. You know, our training staff is,

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Speaker 2: you know, the best I've ever been around, just in

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Speaker 2: the time. So we have a good situation.

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Speaker 1: Here Pacer Celtics. Tonight. Pacers beat the Celtics last week.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Brown just named Eastern Conference All Star starter. Sounds

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Speaker 1: like he's got a good chance to play coming up tonight.

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Speaker 1: What have you seen from him specifically this season? Rick,

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Speaker 1: and just the differences in you know, such an elite

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Speaker 2: I mean you said it, He's just he's a great player.

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Speaker 2: And he he came up on the injury report as

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Speaker 1: You guys have Oklahoma City coming up on Friday, obviously

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Speaker 1: the second matchup, the final matchup with him here in

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Speaker 1: the regular season. I think when we spoke with you,

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Speaker 1: guess even in the raire season. Yeah, what was is

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Speaker 2: Well that we you know, we're a different were much

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Speaker 2: you know, everything, and these guys are are are experiencing

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Speaker 2: growth and you know, unfortunately, in many cases, growth doesn't

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Speaker 2: This year has been, uh has been the challenges that

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Speaker 3: Rick, last one from me, I know, when we last

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Speaker 3: spoke to you you were talking about Kurt Signetti and

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Speaker 3: how you love his saying of production over potential. I

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Speaker 3: National Championship because you were coaching in your own right.

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Speaker 3: But to see that group get it done, what kind

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Speaker 2: Well, you know the game, our game was at seven

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Speaker 2: you know, the National Championship game started at seven point thirty.

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Speaker 2: I saw pretty much the whole second half because our

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Speaker 2: I saw the very everything in the second half, you know,

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Speaker 2: I saw it. And it's an absolutely remarkable story, a

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Speaker 2: it really, it really is kind of the coaching version

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Speaker 2: it's just, uh, it's it's it's it's amazing and uh,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a great, great way to put it.

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Speaker 1: Certainly a mindset shift he felt was needed down there

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Speaker 1: and executed it quite publicly and quite impressively. Pacer Celtics

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Speaker 1: tonight are coverage seven o'clock, seven thirty. Tip coach, thank

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Speaker 1: you for the time on a game day.

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Speaker 2: Take care, guys,