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Speaker 2: You are not going to believe the company.

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Speaker 1: On ninety three to five and one oh seven five

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Speaker 4: With the way you guys have turned around this program,

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Speaker 4: you keep setting a new standard for the greatest moment

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Speaker 5: First, it was winning a game like Morgan on the.

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Speaker 6: Road Dante More. He takes the staff, he throws it.

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Speaker 5: It's tipped up for the airpcent.

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Speaker 7: He comes up for the football loss more for the interception.

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Speaker 8: It was meeting Ohio State for the Big Ten Championship.

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Speaker 9: It's third down in six. Fernando takes it back to throw,

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Speaker 4: Now, it's winning the Rosebull for the first time and

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Speaker 10: Here's a step back to Fernando hast time rowing over

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Speaker 2: He's got back up.

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Speaker 5: Joy fucker.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Fernando's there, he's under center. Himby is the running back.

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Speaker 11: You want a perfect roll by Bernando? Twenty four yards.

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Speaker 4: How would you describe the turn around at what you've

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Speaker 5: Short period of time? The hell of a movie?

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Speaker 8: He wants to do?

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Speaker 5: Poop poop, poop poo shards.

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Speaker 2: That's how it sounded yesterday.

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Speaker 13: ESPN ABC as Indiana. Just as you all expected, twenty

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Speaker 13: twenty six would begin. The Indiana Hoosiers are fourteen and unblemished,

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Speaker 13: and Indiana, on the fiftieth anniversary year of the last

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Speaker 13: But Indiana is the number one team in the country,

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Speaker 13: And while Kurt Signetti said it best, is this stage

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Speaker 2: That's right. Did you do anything fun for New Year's?

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Speaker 13: My parents have gone to Bonefish Grill each and every

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Speaker 13: In past years, and I mean even recent past years,

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Speaker 14: So now it's just I don't know if it's the weather,

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Speaker 13: Texans on Sunday I know we got Riley Leonard starting

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Speaker 13: at quarterback. I know that the Pacers are in action

441
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Speaker 13: tonight taking on San Antonio, and it looks like Wemby's

442
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 13: not going to be on the floor, and they're still

443
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 13: looking for Rick Carlile's oney twin. I know that Purdue

444
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 13: is amongst the best team in college basketball. I think

445
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 13: the best, and quite frankly because Matt Paynter kind of

446
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 13: plays the basketball variation of the building and the understanding

447
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Speaker 13: of teamwork.

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Speaker 2: You know, something happened to me in college.

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Speaker 13: That I think speaks to this Indiana football team, and

450
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 13: it's a lesson we all can take from Kurt Signetti

451
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Speaker 13: in Indiana, and it's great.

452
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Speaker 2: I was out last night. I went out.

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Speaker 13: There are literally eleven hundred people that are fans of

454
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Speaker 13: Indiana football that are not in Pasadena that stayed back here.

455
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Speaker 13: And of those eleven hundred, nine hundred and sixty four

456
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 13: of them yesterday were where I was watching the game.

457
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 13: We went to the Ale in Castleton, a license to

458
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,239
Speaker 13: print money, fabulous place, efficient pizza was great, sat there

459
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 13: and watched the game and all of these people, all

460
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Speaker 13: of these fans of Indiana, everybody's watching it and I'm

461
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 13: thinking to myself, you know what, there's a formula here

462
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 13: and a lesson that we all can learn, which I'll

463
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Speaker 13: share with you on the other side. And if you

464
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Speaker 13: are actually listening today, because I realize it's still kind

465
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 13: of an extended holiday until Monday, we will get your

466
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Speaker 13: thoughts on Indiana as well and let you sound off.

467
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Speaker 13: If you've been waiting to scream it from the mountaintops,

468
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 13: your pride of the Hoo's yours. We'll do it all

469
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Speaker 13: here over the course of the day. Two thirty nine,

470
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Speaker 13: ten seventy is, of course the telephone number. It is

471
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Speaker 13: Quarry and Company. You're listening to it on ninety three

472
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Speaker 13: five and one of seven five the fan woes. So

473
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 13: Georgia is where Indiana is now headed. And if you

474
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Speaker 13: want to know how upside down things are in college

475
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 13: football with the Indiana fight and Hoosiers as the number

476
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Speaker 13: one seed, then think about this. I remember very well

477
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Speaker 13: the nineteen eighty seven Indiana football season.

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Speaker 2: Why is this guy talking about eighty seven? I mean,

479
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 2: it's twenty twenty six, man, it's like forty years ago.

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00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 13: Because that was the last year that Indiana really was

481
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 13: of like any sort of you know, and I know

482
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Speaker 13: that they went in the COVID year and had a

483
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 13: great run, but I mean in terms of sustained competitiveness.

484
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Speaker 13: It was the Malory era and Indiana was playing I

485
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 13: believe Illinois at Memorial Stadium. Dave Schnell was the quarterback

486
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 13: and we found out had appendicitis. I believe Dave Cramee

487
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 13: had to come in for him. And we're walking into

488
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 13: to a Memorial Stadium and there was a guy selling

489
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 13: sweatshirts with a big block letter eye that was the

490
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 13: football eye for Indiana with roses on either side of it.

491
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 13: Because we knew that if Indiana won and then went

492
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Speaker 13: to Michigan State and were able to beat Michigan State,

493
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Speaker 13: that Indiana was going to be for the first time

494
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Speaker 13: in twenty years in the Rose Bowl. And of course

495
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 13: they went to Michigan State. Peteyanovitch hit a fifty three

496
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 13: yard field goal to go up three to nothing, and

497
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 13: then the Spartans came roaring back and I think beat

498
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 13: him twenty seven to three. Bill Mallory later went in

499
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 13: the locker room for Michigan State cheered him on, and

500
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 13: you know, back then that was like it was a

501
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 13: fleeting hope of like clutching pearls to go to the

502
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 13: Rose Bowl and Indiana that year because of the fact

503
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 13: that they got so close but did not get to

504
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 13: go to the Rose Bowl, they had to settle for

505
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 13: a consolation prize of a lesser but still significant bowl

506
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 13: game of the Peach Bowl. So it is bizarre to

507
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 13: me to know that. If you want to know how

508
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 13: upside down everything is in college football, Indiana the program

509
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 13: that was at the bottom and is now at the top.

510
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 13: By winning the Rose Bowl, they get the reward of

511
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 13: going to the Peach Bowl. It's none of it makes sense,

512
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 13: like like stop me when it makes sense. But I'm

513
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 13: here for all of it. I'm here for all of it.

514
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 13: And I realized that ninety percent of people that are

515
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 13: tailgating and Pasadena and flying cross country and on their

516
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 13: way and getting their sweet tea and heading to Atlanta,

517
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 13: ninety percent of them probably didn't go to games fifteen

518
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 13: years ago. But there wasn't a lot of reason to

519
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 13: I get it. I totally get it, totally get it.

520
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 13: But I also thought, speaking of Georgia on my mind,

521
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 13: I also thought.

522
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Speaker 2: Going into it.

523
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Speaker 13: That there were two teams that were the biggest obstacle

524
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Speaker 13: for Indiana. I thought, if Indiana's gonna win it all,

525
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 13: Oregon's gonna be tough. It's always tough to beat a

526
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Speaker 13: team twice.

527
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: I think they know that.

528
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Speaker 13: And Oregon's playing at a very high level as well.

529
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 13: That's gonna be a great game. But the two teams

530
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 13: that jumped out at me the most were Ohio State

531
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Speaker 13: in Georgia. Credit to Old Miss, because I don't think

532
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 13: a lot of people, including maybe even those in Hatty Toddy,

533
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 13: thought that Old Miss and Old Miss has had a

534
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 13: great year. But with all that's gone on, and you know,

535
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 13: I mean, is Old Miss this year's eighty nine Michigan

536
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 13: with Bill Frieder, guy gets another job and they go,

537
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 13: now we're good, We're fine, man, We're gonna hand it

538
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 13: over this guy. And then they go on and win

539
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 13: the national title. I don't know, but Georgia looked so

540
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 13: stout going into it, and you almost thought that there

541
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 13: was so much talk about Ohio State in Indiana coming

542
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 13: off the Big Ten title game that maybe Georgia was

543
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 13: just kind of sitting there in the cap birds seat.

544
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 13: And now Georgia is out, and then there is the

545
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 13: team that Eddie Garrison I don't know that you said,

546
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 13: Eddie that you thought they would win, but you were

547
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 13: the one. I think we were talking about what games

548
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 13: in the College Football Playoff were the biggest stinkers, and

549
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 13: I was like, man, I really did think Ohio State

550
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 13: was going to steamroll past Miami. And I watched a

551
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 13: little of Miami this year. Disingenuous to say a lot,

552
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 13: but they have more than now validated their place here

553
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 13: in terms of their selection as they controversially got in

554
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 13: h absolutely.

555
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 14: I mean, I told you when we were talking about,

556
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 14: you know, whitch game you thought had the possibility of

557
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 14: being the biggest blog you cited Georgia Miami or you

558
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 14: cited Miami and Ohio State. I thought it was going

559
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 14: to be that Georgia Ole Miss game. So we were both,

560
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 14: you know, wrong in that regard. But I just felt

561
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 14: like the defense for Miami was is good enough to

562
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 14: keep them in most not any ballgame that they're going

563
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 14: to play in this.

564
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: College Football Playoff.

565
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 14: And the other aspect to it that I was thinking about,

566
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 14: and I mentioned it, was the fact that you know,

567
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 14: Georgia had just played the Georgia Miami had just played

568
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 14: the previous week in Ohio State hadn't played since the

569
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 14: Big Ten championship game, they lost their offensive coordinator, and

570
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,959
Speaker 14: they were turning things back over to Brian Day as

571
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 14: the play color and so there was just a lot

572
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 14: of things that weren't going in favor of Ohio State

573
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 14: going into that game that I felt like Miami could

574
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 14: hang around, but I thought the talent level of Ohio

575
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 14: State was going to be able to prevail at the end,

576
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 14: and in this instance, it certainly did not.

577
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: And they made Julian saying look bad they did. They did.

578
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: Now here's and that defense is nasty, But so it's Indiana's.

579
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Speaker 15: You know.

580
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Speaker 13: Now, this is what happened to me years ago that

581
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 13: I think is applicable to what Indiana's doing because we

582
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 13: can sit here and psychoanalyze till the cows come home,

583
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 13: which is what I'm about to do. How this has

584
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 13: all come to be, And I think it simple and

585
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 13: I think it's a lesson that can be learned for

586
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 13: all of us in this. When I was in college,

587
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 13: I was the fact that this happened because I was

588
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 13: part of a pledge class and a fraternity is irrelevant,

589
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 13: but for the sake of the discussion, to give the

590
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 13: background so I was a pledge for the nineteen ninety

591
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 13: one pledge class of the Fight Out the Theta Kansas

592
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 13: Alpha chapter at the University of Kansas.

593
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: And then they had this big, beautiful home.

594
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 13: The fraternity house had been redone like a nineteen eighty

595
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 13: nine by gorgeous one of the best fraternity houses you'll

596
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 13: ever see, with a huge front yard in front of

597
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 13: it with big decorative boulder type rocks. And there was

598
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 13: a guy that was in charge of the landscaping of

599
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 13: all of it. And of course we were the pledges.

600
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 13: So our job, this was before school began, like for

601
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 13: the week before school began, was to get the building

602
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 13: spruced up in ready to go for the school year.

603
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 13: And they had dropped off all of these boulders to

604
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 13: be designed in the front yard and the landscape of it.

605
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 13: And of course, and I'm sure this was by design,

606
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 13: they dropped them off on the far left side of

607
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 13: the house and decided that they needed to go to

608
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 13: the far right side, hundreds of them, and there were

609
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 13: thirty two, I think in my pledge class. And they

610
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 13: basically said, well, you guys got like an hour to

611
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 13: get all these boulders to the other side. So each

612
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 13: one of us is picking up a boulder, and each

613
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 13: one of these things, I mean, they were big, and

614
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 13: we're picking them up, and you could walk about five

615
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 13: feet and set it down, pick it up again, and

616
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 13: walk about five feet and set it down, and it

617
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 13: just kept taking forever. There were a couple of guys

618
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 13: that could pick up a boulder and move it all

619
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 13: by themselves because they were strong enough, but most of

620
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 13: us had to do it incrementally. And finally, after a

621
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 13: couple of minutes, after a couple of minutes, somebody said,

622
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 13: wait a minute, why don't we do this? And we

623
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 13: figured out that if we lined up side by side

624
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 13: with about a foot between us, we could line from

625
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 13: where the boulders were to where the boulders needed to

626
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 13: go side by side, and we took the two strongest

627
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 13: guys on each end as kind of the beginning and

628
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 13: the end, and the strongest guy picked up the rock

629
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 13: and then turned around and handed it to the guide

630
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 13: to the left of him, who swiveled around and turned

631
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 13: it to the guy to the left of him. So

632
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 13: you only had to hold and feel the weight of

633
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 13: these boulders for like two seconds before your job was done.

634
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 13: And you passed it on to someone else, and collectively,

635
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 13: everyone working like that together, we were able to immediately

636
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 13: and literally a fraction of the time of what it

637
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 13: would have taken otherwise if we individually were trying to

638
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 13: do things. When we worked it together, the stress on

639
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 13: each of us individually was limited, and the efficiency by

640
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 13: which we were able to move all of the boulders

641
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 13: from one side to the other side was seemingly instantaneous

642
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 13: and really without any Yeah sure, I mean you had

643
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 13: to swivel from your right to your left, You catch

644
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 13: your breath for a second, there comes another rock, and

645
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 13: you pass it along. Indiana football is doing exactly that.

646
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 13: It doesn't matter that they don't have the number of

647
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 13: guys that can carry the boulder by themselves from one

648
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 13: end to the other. Ohio State's got twenty three of them,

649
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 13: Alabama's got fifteen of them. Indiana might have two. But

650
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 13: Indiana masterfully and Kurt Signetti masterfully figures out wighs that

651
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 13: so long as everyone is aligned on that field, knowing

652
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 13: the small area that they are in charge of, and

653
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 13: they execute and they do the best. When that boulder

654
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 13: comes their way, you grab it, you turn around, you

655
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 13: hand it to the next guy. Your job is complete,

656
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 13: and you trust that the guy next to you is

657
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 13: going to again hand you the same efficient play over

658
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 13: and over. That's how Indiana plays football, And regardless of

659
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 13: whatever walk of life you're in, regardless of what team

660
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 13: you pull for, if you can't appreciate the team nature

661
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 13: and the selflessness of that group led by their coach

662
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 13: who has simply laid it out and said, here's how

663
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Speaker 13: we're going to do things. We don't need to work

664
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Speaker 13: six hours tomorrow. We can work ninety minutes because each

665
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 13: of you know your job and you're relying on the

666
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 13: guy on either side of you, and working in unison

667
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 13: is better than working individually. And there are a lot

668
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 13: of teams that have individual talent and stars that are

669
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 13: going to sit down with their remote control and watch

670
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,959
Speaker 13: Indiana in the Peach Bowl. WO PACER's an Action tonight

671
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 13: taking on the Spurs at Gainbridge Fieldhouse, Eddie. I don't

672
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 13: know if officially San Antonio has ruled out Webem Miyama,

673
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 13: but I'm believe that's certainly trending that way from the

674
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 13: hypertension him out yesterday. Yeah, which is disappointing because and

675
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 13: I know that you're going down if you're going to

676
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 13: the game to watch the Pacers play, but he is.

677
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 13: He is a treat to watch because he is just

678
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 13: so I mean effortless. It's incredible the way.

679
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 15: That he.

680
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: Nickname is the Alien. I mean it's have you ever

681
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 2: seen the video of him when Victor Webber Miyama when he.

682
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 13: He was in France at the time, is before he

683
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 13: came to the NBA and he's warming up and a

684
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 13: little kid asked for his autograph and he walks over

685
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 13: and steps over the bench.

686
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Speaker 15: No.

687
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 13: He you know how like if you had to step

688
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 13: over a folding chair, you would kind of lean down,

689
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 13: put your hand on either side of it, swivel your

690
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 13: hip over and then kind of hop.

691
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Speaker 8: Yeah.

692
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Speaker 2: He he.

693
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Speaker 13: Literally in normal stride, lifts his leg up and just

694
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Speaker 13: step over it and it's a full I mean a

695
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 13: full chair. Like it's incredible.

696
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Speaker 14: I'm curious just how he fits onto airplanes, Like how

697
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 14: does he not have a hunchback he would have to

698
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Speaker 14: sit now even just sitting just like walking down the aisle, Yeah,

699
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 14: and getting through the terminal.

700
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Speaker 13: I mean, good question, because what's he listed as seven

701
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Speaker 13: to five? I mean he feels he seems a lot

702
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 13: even bigger than that, right, I mean when you when

703
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 13: you look at him, I remember I thought he was

704
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 13: seven six or seven seven at one point, but he's

705
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 13: but I think.

706
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Speaker 14: It is he's listed at seven foot four.

707
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 2: Pounds.

708
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 13: See, that's the big time. I mean that that's the

709
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 13: same height as Rick Smith's. But Rick Smit's was so

710
00:39:54,600 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 13: much physically thicker, stronger, and you know Rick Smith's truthfully,

711
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 13: Rick Smith's is one guy from that era that I

712
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 13: think could play today. I think Rick Smiths would have

713
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 13: been would have fit in in today's playing style because

714
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 13: of his touch and you know his range a little bit. Now, Eddie,

715
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 13: you worked the Orlando game, right.

716
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 2: I did? Indeed I did.

717
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 13: So you were off then and then and that was

718
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 13: New Year's Eve, right, Yes, that was Wednesday? And then

719
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Speaker 13: what did you do on New Year's Day itself?

720
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Speaker 14: We slept in a little bit yea yesterday, and then

721
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 14: went over to a buddy's house of mine and watched

722
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Speaker 14: ALU game.

723
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Speaker 2: Yesterday.

724
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Speaker 13: Was did it several times over the course of the day.

725
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 13: I had to remind myself it was New Year's Day.

726
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 14: I had to remind myself that it was Thursday. I

727
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 14: thought it was Friday. Saturday.

728
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 13: It felt like a Sunday for sure, right, yeah, I

729
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 13: mean it was weird like last night. I mean, my everyone,

730
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 13: everyone's body kilter has got to be completely thrown off. Now,

731
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 13: I'd like to know this, what percent. I don't know

732
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 13: that you would know this, but I asked this a lot.

733
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 13: I realized, what percent of like the real world is

734
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 13: working today. That's a great question. And I know a

735
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 13: lot of people work from home anyway, right, but I'm curious.

736
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 13: I'm genuinely curious what percent of people are working today?

737
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 13: Now we have the ability, of course, for people to

738
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 13: text the show at two thirty nine, ten seventy. But

739
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 13: I think i'm with these new computers they put in.

740
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 13: It doesn't remember any passwords, and you know we've had

741
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 13: to do I've had to change my password thirty six times,

742
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 13: and so I'm not sure which password I'm supposed to

743
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 13: be using here. So I don't have to log in

744
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 13: to be able to see what people are texting to

745
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 13: the show. But if you want to, so if you

746
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 13: want to send me a text, I guess you're got

747
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 13: You're gonna have to do it to my personal phone.

748
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 14: We did get a text off at the start of

749
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 14: the show that there was an IU fan listening in

750
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 14: Pasadena just won the Rose Bowl. Now they're going to Disneyland.

751
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 13: There you go, that's right, go to now the tickets

752
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 13: for the Peach Bowl. I mean, if you thought that

753
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 13: Indiana overtook the Rose Bowl and.

754
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 14: Then we got a text at like twelve thirty and

755
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 14: that all I said was love your show, Well that's cool.

756
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: That was it from Scott. Scott, We love you too, man.

757
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 2: Thank you.

758
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 13: If you think that there were there was an Indiana

759
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 13: invasion at Pasadena. And I understand that because if you're

760
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 13: an Alabama fan, you've probably been there, done that. If

761
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 13: you're an Alabama fan, you've seen like eight nas you

762
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 13: know the truthfully, and I mean this has no disrespect

763
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 13: to Indiana or anywhere else, but it's reality. Think about

764
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 13: the glory years of Indian for IU fans, I'm saying

765
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 13: to put it in perspective the Indiana fans, you know,

766
00:42:55,040 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 13: for for Alabama fans, going and seeing the Rose Bowl

767
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 13: in the quarterfinals of the College Football Playoff is kind

768
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 13: of like if Indiana was in those runs where there

769
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 13: were number one seeds on the regular and then had

770
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 13: a year where they're a five seed and they open

771
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 13: up their opening round in Boise. You're like, yeah, I'll

772
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 13: wait to see if they get to the sweet sixteen

773
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 13: or the final four, because I've done this a number

774
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 13: of times and I got to be careful here on

775
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 13: how much I'm spending. So I get why there were

776
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 13: You know, it was not the novelty for Alabama fans

777
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 13: that it was for Indiana fans. But if you just

778
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 13: look at the travel alone for Oregon fans now to

779
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 13: go to the Peach Bowl, and for Indiana fans if

780
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 13: they want to can drive there, it's going to be massive.

781
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 13: I saw last night tickets on the secondary market in

782
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Speaker 13: the door one eighty nine last night, and that may

783
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Speaker 13: go up.

784
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: I don't know.

785
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 13: I thought about buying them just to resell them, and

786
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 13: I thought, I'm not going to be that jerk.

787
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 14: Now we got a text froom read on the text line,

788
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 14: Jake working today in construction, and then Jeff says working

789
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 14: from home today.

790
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 2: Not sure what line of work.

791
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 14: Jeff is in.

792
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Speaker 13: Jake, I'm working today, Fish and Buck are the best

793
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 13: on the radio. Happy for the guys totally.

794
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 14: My only friend Alec is working today as well.

795
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, hey, Jake, just doing inventory.

796
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Speaker 13: This from Charles Iowa, u CLA, Oregon, Penn State, Ohio State,

797
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 13: and in Alabama undefeated season, Big Ten title, first Rose

798
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 13: Bowl title. But it's football. Put the respect on the

799
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 13: Hoosiers name. Yes, So what I said when Kurt Signetti

800
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 13: said it, and they said, was the moment too big

801
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 13: for you? And he said, why would it be? Just

802
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 13: because we're Indiana.

803
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Speaker 14: Now, what kind of inventory is that person doing? Is

804
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 14: my question?

805
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 13: He was inventoring the list of accomplishments of Indiana football

806
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Speaker 13: for the year.

807
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Speaker 2: That's his inventory.

808
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 13: Here on this the second day of January, Mike ni

809
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Speaker 13: is going to join us on the program from the

810
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Speaker 13: Bloomington Herald Times telephone. All of the different acronyms of

811
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 13: which or titles that we give. It's Bloomington Herald Times

812
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Speaker 13: of the Bloomington newspaper one thirty, Tony East at o'clock,

813
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 13: James Boyd at two point thirty, rolling along here, happy

814
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 13: twenty twenty six, and the Indiana Hoosiers enter and burst

815
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 13: their way into the new year with a huge win

816
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 13: last night.

817
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Speaker 1: What it's Querry in company. I'm gonna be keeping your

818
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: company for the next few hours. You are not going

819
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 1: to believe the company.

820
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 15: This company.

821
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Speaker 3: You're in a bankrupt of Mama's company.

822
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 1: At least I have the radio to keep me company

823
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: on ninety three to five and one oh seven five

824
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Speaker 1: the fan.

825
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Speaker 5: With the way you guys have turned around this program.

826
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Speaker 4: You keep setting a new standard for the greatest moment

827
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Speaker 4: in Indiana history.

828
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Speaker 5: First, it was winning a game like Morgan on the.

829
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 6: Road, Dante More, he takes the staff, he throws its

830
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 6: tipped up.

831
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Speaker 8: For the aircepcent.

832
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 7: He comes up with a football loss. More with the interception.

833
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 8: It was meeting Ohio State for the Big Ten Championship.

834
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Speaker 9: It's third down six. Fernando takes it back to throw,

835
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 9: fires it down the field and it.

836
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: Is come Shi hold caps.

837
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 4: Now it's winning the Rose Bull for the first time

838
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 4: and going to the semifinals.

839
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Speaker 10: Here's the step back to Fernando has time rowing over

840
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:10,439
Speaker 10: the medal.

841
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 7: He's got backer tax cheicker touch.

842
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 9: Yeah, Fernando's there, he's under center. Himy is the running back.

843
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 9: Here's the staff bakes the handoff, looks the thrown dust throw.

844
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 7: The ends of touchstop Old Mark Cooper Junior touchdown.

845
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Speaker 9: Himby on the backfield. Now with Fernando Mendoza he takes

846
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 9: the staff. Fernando looks left, Fisi Donna Field, He's got.

847
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 7: Surrounded to stop. What a perfect growl by Fernando twenty.

848
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Speaker 11: Four yards Indiana scores again.

849
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Speaker 4: How would you describe the turn around at what you've

850
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 4: been able to build in.

851
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 5: A short period of time?

852
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 12: The hell of the movie, Well, my husband wants to

853
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 12: do something if he wants to say that.

854
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 13: Eddie Garrison putting it together, the montage Indiana over Oregon,

855
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 13: Indiana ver Ohio State, Indiana over Alabama. Don Fisher on

856
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 13: the call and Rhese Davis taking us step by step

857
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 13: through it before. Pat Coogan then got Mendoza to sing,

858
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 13: and it was Kurt Signetti that did the chant of

859
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 13: who who Hoosiers and Indiana. The number one seed is

860
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 13: the presumptive favorite now to win the national championship in

861
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 13: college football.

862
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to jinx anything.

863
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 13: I don't think I can jinx anything with two games left,

864
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 13: because let me explain to you again what we are

865
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 13: seeing before our very eyes. History has an interesting way

866
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 13: of repeating itself, and sometimes characters in books, in movies,

867
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 13: in history books can forecast for us the way things layout,

868
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 13: and you could probably go back to the very beginning

869
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 13: of Indiana football to now and give yourself that amount

870
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 13: of time to try to figure out and grasp how

871
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 13: this story has come to be, how it came to

872
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 13: be that the football gods would select Indiana as the

873
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 13: school that would masterfully turn it all around. And as

874
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 13: I mentioned earlier today, I understand, I respect and I

875
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 13: appreciate that when you do a sports talk radio program

876
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 13: in Indianapolis, Indiana, you have fans a myriad of schools

877
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 13: listening to you, and it is not our job to

878
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 13: show favoritism towards anyone versus another. And I certainly understand

879
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 13: how tiresome it must be if you're a fan of

880
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 13: a school other than Indiana to hear the talk of

881
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 13: Indiana on the regular in Indianapolis, within the media and

882
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 13: et cetera. It is the largest alumni based in the

883
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 13: United States.

884
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 2: However, but.

885
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 13: I ask that you, whether you are a fan of

886
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 13: Indiana State, Ball, State, Notre Dame, Evansville, Purdue, Fort Wayne, IU,

887
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 13: Indy Earlham, DePaul wabash Hanover, Franklin Huntington, all of it,

888
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 13: I ask that you lend me your ears to simply

889
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 13: hear this tale that would almost be unbelievable if not

890
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 13: for the fact that it's happening before our very eyes,

891
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 13: and how exactly did it happen? Allow me to explain

892
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 13: and why there's precedent to understand and going back and

893
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 13: opening up books and history books to know what we

894
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 13: have before us. Forever, college football was dominated by the haves,

895
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 13: the Michigan States, the Ohio States, the Alabamas, the USC's

896
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 13: forever and the college football national champion was always determined

897
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 13: by the ranking and the polls the end of the year,

898
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 13: and that did not mean that it came without controversy.

899
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 13: In years Georgia Tech in Washington splitting a national title,

900
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 13: Florida State elevating over Notre Dame despite Notre Dame beating

901
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 13: them in South Bend a month and a half prior,

902
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 13: and then they came up with a four team playoff,

903
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 13: the BCS, as it was known. A lot of people said,

904
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 13: just dropped the c It was the BS. And each

905
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 13: time that college football tried to come up with a

906
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 13: system that would seemingly smooth things out and make things

907
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 13: non controversial, there was always something else by which to complain.

908
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 13: If there were four teams that got in how did

909
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 13: the fifth not get in if there was supposed to

910
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 13: be conference champions and Ohio State in the COVID year

911
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 13: everybody knew was the best representative that had the best

912
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 13: chance to actually advance and represent the big ten well

913
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 13: and get the big ten more money. Let's come up

914
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 13: with actually a different rule of number of games necessary

915
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 13: so that Ohio State can get in. There was always

916
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 13: something to be discussed, and then you throw into it

917
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 13: the fact that you had programs that would pay players.

918
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 13: SMU was nicknamed substantially messed up when they got the

919
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 13: death penalty for the running ponies and just handing out

920
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 13: money like it was going out of style, right, I mean,

921
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 13: everything had worth than fort Worth because SMU is bringing

922
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 13: it all to you. And you had all these renegade

923
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 13: programs and allegations and guys, you know, guys sitting out

924
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 13: games are being held out until their legality or their

925
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 13: eligibility was determined, all kinds of stuff running amok. And

926
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 13: then the nil Court settlement came out where yes, in fact,

927
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 13: players could be compensated transfer portal and basically this all

928
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 13: entered into a new era of college football, a new

929
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 13: method for it. And I thought to myself yesterday. This

930
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 13: actually is something that I've seen this movie before, and

931
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 13: it came to me actually two nights ago when during

932
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 13: a bout of an insomnia, I turned on the television

933
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 13: and saw one of the most fabulous movies ever made,

934
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 13: a snub at the Oscars, quite frankly, from nineteen eighty two,

935
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 13: and it all came together to me when trying to

936
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 13: figure out what it is about this Indiana team, it

937
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 13: all came together to me in a moment of brilliant

938
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 13: epiphany from our friend from forty four years ago, mister Jeff'spacoli.

939
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 16: What Jefferson was saying was, Hey, you know, we left

940
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 16: this airplace because it was bogus. So if we don't

941
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 16: get some cool rules ourselves Toronto, we'll just be fogus too.

942
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 2: Yay.

943
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 13: Now, what Jeff Spacoley was talking about was the founding

944
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 13: of America with mister Hand And if you look at

945
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 13: the Founding of America, you actually learn and you actually

946
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 13: can see what happened with the new Foundation for Indiana

947
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 13: at the time of the American Revolution, when the United

948
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 13: States had the founding fathers that were deciding that in fact,

949
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 13: England was bogus and they needed to come up with

950
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 13: some cool rules themselves pronto, or they were just going

951
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 13: to be bogus too. George Washington was the epicenter of

952
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 13: much of that, but he knew, as did many, that

953
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,879
Speaker 13: he was skeptical of the new path that was being

954
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 13: blazed before, as written in the Articles of Confederation. And

955
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 13: so a group of men looked at the Articles of

956
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 13: Confederation that had been laid out had been laid out

957
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 13: before as a blueprint and a baseline of what this

958
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 13: new country was going to be and this new established

959
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 13: regime was going to have. And the the Articles of

960
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 13: Confederation said, you know what this is all designed for

961
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 13: essentially a like a democratic assembly. And certain guys said,

962
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 13: you know what, it's not as much about a democratic

963
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 13: assembly as it is making sure that there is like

964
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 13: a personal responsibility into a smaller finite group and that

965
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 13: if each person within their finite group does what it

966
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 13: is that they need to do to be successful, then

967
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 13: that will actually equate to success across the way for

968
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 13: the masses. Not unlike the way Indiana football plays in

969
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 13: an era when you see big time stars, big time talent,

970
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 13: and big time celebrations. Indiana after the Rose Bowl win,

971
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 13: the Most Valuable Player went to Pat Coogan as a

972
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 13: representative of the offensive line, because in Indiana, it's not

973
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 13: about individual star interesting to say, because the biggest individual

974
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 13: award in college football went to Fernando Mendoza of Indiana,

975
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 13: who immediately said, I only have this award because of

976
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 13: the other guys on the field with me, Because Indiana

977
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 13: believed in individually.

978
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 2: This is what we are going to do.

979
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 13: If every player knows their job and executes it to

980
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 13: the best of their ability, then we can have success.

981
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 2: And when.

982
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 13: The founding fathers in George Washington, notably, who had his

983
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 13: accolytes around him, he had guys around him that believed

984
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 13: in the principles of what it was that he wanted

985
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 13: to do. Guys like John Adams and Ben Franklin and

986
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 13: Thomas Paine. You know, they all were there within the

987
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 13: same breadth. And George Washington also had a man that

988
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 13: he turned to and he said, I think these rules

989
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 13: might be bogus, but there seems to be an avenue

990
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 13: for us to come up with a new way that

991
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 13: is a more solidified way that allows for everyone the

992
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 13: individual liberties to accomplish what they want. So he turned

993
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 13: to a man that said, you know what, You're right,

994
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 13: The articles of Confederation are not what we need. What

995
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 13: we need is a more designed plan, and I'll call

996
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 13: it the Constitutional Convention. And this man came up with

997
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 13: the Constitutional Convention, which was designed to strengthen a government

998
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:49,720
Speaker 13: through the trust that its individualized entities could work together

999
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 13: in unison and if they all did their best, then

1000
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 13: that would be a strength for the mass. And the

1001
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 13: man that George Washington turned to to come up with

1002
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 13: all all of that was named James Madison. And James

1003
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 13: Madison some two hundred and forty five years after all

1004
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 13: of that would become the namesake of a university that

1005
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 13: had a football coach named Kurt Signetti. And when Indiana

1006
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 13: University and Scott Dowlson their athletic director and Pam Witten,

1007
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 13: their president, looked at the new era of college football

1008
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 13: ahead of time, and they knew that we were going

1009
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 13: into a new frontier. They knew that we were going

1010
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 13: into this new land that had been discovered. Charles and

1011
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 13: Ed O'Bannon were two basketball players that wanted compensation for

1012
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 13: their name, image and likeness, and they took it to court,

1013
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 13: and that court was essentially the same if you will

1014
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 13: as the Spanish government funding the trip for Christopher Columbus

1015
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 13: because it was setting sale into a new tier of

1016
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 13: college athletics. And Pam Witten and Scott Dolson saw this,

1017
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 13: and they saw that there was this foundation of the

1018
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 13: way college football was at that time, but they could

1019
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 13: see that there was something new, bigger, better and more

1020
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 13: solid on the horizon. And so they themselves said, we

1021
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 13: need to come up with a new way of doing

1022
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 13: things here in this new era. We have been the

1023
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 13: losingest college football program in the history of Division one.

1024
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 13: Nobody has lost more college football games than Indiana. But

1025
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 13: we need to with this new opportunity before us, this

1026
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 13: new land and horizon of college football, with the payment

1027
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 13: of players and nil collective and transfer portal. We need

1028
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 13: to find someone that can navigate for us in blueprint

1029
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 13: how we can be the founding fathers of the new

1030
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 13: way of college football. And other programs had that opportunity.

1031
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 13: Other programs that have been hired in mediocrity or subpar play,

1032
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 13: Rice University, Rutgers, Idaho, Iowa State, other schools that have

1033
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 13: been good at times had good programs. Any of them,

1034
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 13: every single one of them had the same opportunity, but

1035
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 13: Indiana turned to James Madison, and they turned to Kurt Signetti,

1036
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 13: and Kurt Signetti went to Indiana and said, I need

1037
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 13: financial commitment, and the financial commitment I need is I'm

1038
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 13: going to give you a list of fifty players in

1039
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 13: the transfer portal that most fit what I want to do,

1040
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 13: and I need the money to get them here. I

1041
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 13: need the solidarity to bring them to Indiana, and I

1042
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 13: need the ability and the trust that you are going

1043
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 13: to allow me to painstakingly scout out what players I need.

1044
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 13: And Indiana said, deal done, Let's do it because this

1045
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 13: old way was bogus and we're going to get some

1046
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 13: cool rules ourselves so that we're not bogus too. And

1047
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 13: Kurt Signetty came to Indiana and yesterday there were two

1048
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 13: things that happened that most personified why Indiana is now

1049
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 13: the top program in college football. On this the second

1050
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 13: day of twenty twenty six, Indiana against Alabama, the blue

1051
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 13: blood and probably most tradition laden program in college football.

1052
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 13: Alabama had to play late in the first half where

1053
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 13: they needed to pick up two yards critical play, and

1054
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 13: they tried to get cute and they did a reverse

1055
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 13: and like a flea flicker attempt, and Indiana knew what

1056
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 13: was happening before Alabama even did. And Indiana went into

1057
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 13: that game knowing that in the two years of this

1058
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 13: new college football format, in the two years of the

1059
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 13: new constitutional convention that Indiana had mastered that was the

1060
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 13: better version of the previous articles of confederation. Indiana knew

1061
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 13: that the teams that were coming off by were zero donut,

1062
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 13: they were zero for six going into that game in

1063
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 13: Indiana knew that those odds were stacked against them because

1064
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 13: they were the one coming off of bye. But on

1065
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 13: that play, Indiana was so well prepared, so focused that

1066
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 13: they didn't wilt and that attempted trick by Alabama because

1067
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 13: Indiana knew exactly what was coming and knew exactly how

1068
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 13: that play was going to develop, and they were there

1069
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 13: before even Alabama was because of their focus. And Indiana

1070
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 13: in that game didn't miss a beat from their win

1071
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 13: and their long layoff coming off of beating Ohio State

1072
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 13: in the Big Ten title game because of their focus.

1073
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 13: And that focus comes from Kurt Signetti coaching and a

1074
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 13: manner and a style that says, I'm not worried about

1075
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 13: where you've come from I'm not worried about the number

1076
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 13: of stars that you had and how big a recruit

1077
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 13: you were coming out of college. I'm not worried about

1078
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 13: those things. Indiana had three touchdown passes yesterday, three receptions

1079
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 13: for Fernando Mendoza, who was fourteen of sixteen for just

1080
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 13: under two hundred yards and three touchdowns. One of those

1081
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 13: touchdowns was to Charlie Becker, the one hundred and thirty

1082
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 13: first ranked wide receiver in his recruiting class coming out

1083
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 13: of high school, the nine hundred and seventy seventh best

1084
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 13: prospect coming out of high school. Another was to Omar Cooper,

1085
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 13: the ninth ranked high school player in the state of Indiana.

1086
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 13: In the state of Indiana, hardly known as a recruiting

1087
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 13: fertile blue blood Texas California of players, two hundred and

1088
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 13: ninety ninth national recruit Omar Cooper, and the last might

1089
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 13: be Fernanda Mendoza's most reliable target and his favorite one,

1090
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 13: Elijah Sarratt, who didn't even have a national profile of

1091
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 13: ranking when he came out. But Kurt Signetti is the

1092
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Speaker 13: kind of guy that says, I don't care about that.

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Speaker 13: What I care about is for you to play in

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01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 13: Indiana means I have painstakingly watched hours upon hours upon

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01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 13: hours upon hours of video, and I watch more than

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01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 13: the way you play. I watch the way you interact.

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01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 13: I watch the way you come back to the sidelines

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01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 13: and what your focus is in Indiana, and that game

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Speaker 13: against Alabama showed that if everybody knows their own personal responsibility,

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01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 13: then collectively it all comes together like a constitutional convention.

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01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 13: And the vision of what was found via James Madison

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01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 13: now brought to Bloomington. Indiana is working, and it's working

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Speaker 13: because of a coach that has put in all of

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01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 13: that effort, all of that scouting. Does Indiana have the

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01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 13: fifty five best college football players in America?

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Speaker 18: No?

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01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 13: Does Indiana have the fifty five guys collectively come together

1108
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 13: knowing their role to form the best team.

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Speaker 2: Yes. And that's why.

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01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 13: The most poignant moment and the most perfect apt summary

1111
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 13: of it all was after the game, as Indiana is

1112
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 13: sitting on the Rose Bull Stage, the Rose Bull Stage,

1113
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 13: a place that Indiana fans only dreamed could be possible

1114
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 13: since the last time they went there in nineteen sixty eight.

1115
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 13: And Indiana wins the Rose Bowl and there's Rose pedals

1116
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 13: coming down everywhere, and Kurt Signetti is holding up the

1117
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 13: trophy and he's doing the hoo hoosiers and like he's

1118
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 13: showing this like almost social awkwardness that makes it even

1119
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 13: that much cooler and he smiles for the first time.

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Speaker 1: What are you thinking now?

1121
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 2: Pall find Bob and.

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01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 13: Don Fisher had that to say about ESPN's biggest blow

1123
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 13: hard mouthpiece megaphone about the SEC because Indiana is the

1124
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 13: one Paul Finebaum can sit there and talk about it

1125
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 13: all he wants, but Paul Feinebaum is like the rest

1126
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 13: of the college football world. They slept on what Indiana saw,

1127
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 13: which was the fact that there was a new wind

1128
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 13: of change coming and the old rules were bogus and

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01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 13: the new rules weren't and Indiana wasn't going to be

1130
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 13: bogus anymore. And Indiana was the one that had the

1131
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 13: foresight to be able to go out and make the

1132
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 13: change to put them in this position. And the greatest

1133
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 13: personification of all of it was afterwards, when everyone believed

1134
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 13: that Fernanda Mendoza was about to become the most valuable

1135
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 13: player of the Rose Bowl, and the ABC television camera

1136
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 13: ESPN television camera is honed in on his parents, and

1137
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 13: Rhys Davis is building it up, and Mendoza's sitting there

1138
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 13: and his players are starting to pat him on the back,

1139
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 13: and then in the first audible fake to ever do

1140
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 13: in a Kurtz Signetti Indiana team, they were all taken

1141
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 13: by surprise when they said, no, it's actually going to

1142
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 13: go to Pat Coogan, the representative of the offensive line,

1143
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 13: and Fernando Mendoza and Elijah Surratt were jumping up and

1144
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 13: down more than anybody, because that is the perfect example

1145
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 13: of the fact that for the very first time they

1146
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 13: were caught off guard because it was the one thing

1147
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 13: for which they couldn't prepare and focus. But immediately the

1148
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 13: focus then came on celebrating the fact that they were

1149
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 13: recognizing a unit and a team versus a player. And

1150
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 13: there are fabulous players in college football, and these playoff

1151
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 13: games are absolutely spotted with them all over the place.

1152
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 13: Ohio State's got a handful of them, a plethora Ohio State,

1153
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 13: the twenty twenty five Ohio State Buckeyes that basically are

1154
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 13: the fab five of their least favorite school, Michigan. Because

1155
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 13: Ohio State fans love to point out that the nineteen

1156
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 13: ninety three Michigan Wolverines with Ray Jackson, Jimmy King, Chris Weber,

1157
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 13: Juwan Howard, and Jalen Rose. They were an awesome team,

1158
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 13: but you know how many Big Ten and national championships

1159
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 13: they won. None got a lot of hype, got a

1160
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 13: lot of praise, got a lot of billboards, got a

1161
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 13: lot of love, have a huge place in pop culture.

1162
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 13: But they didn't win anything. And yes, Ohio State last

1163
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 13: year did. But this year's Ohio State team, for that

1164
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 13: level of talent, for that level of the number of

1165
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 13: draft picks, wait till April. The number of times you

1166
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 13: hear Roger Goodell say the Ohio State University, guess what

1167
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 13: they have to show for it in terms of Big

1168
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 13: Ten titles and national championships for this season. None in Indiana,

1169
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 13: with their no stars, with their overlooked, with their bogus recruits,

1170
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 13: has come together as a unit under the vision of

1171
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 13: Kurt Signetti. And if you can't buy into the fact,

1172
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 13: regardless of who you root for, Evansville, Butler, Notre Dame, Purdue, Wabash,

1173
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 13: DePaul Ball, State, Earlham, whoever it might be, if you

1174
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 13: can't appreciate the storyline happening before us and the Hollywood

1175
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 13: script that almost seems like it's too good to be true.

1176
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:24,560
Speaker 13: And yes, they still have two games to go, but

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01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 13: if they win those two games, they will be the

1178
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 13: first team in the history of college football to go

1179
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 13: sixteen and unblemished in a season. And Indiana University will

1180
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,640
Speaker 13: become the first school to win a national championship in

1181
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 13: basketball and football, both with unbeaten records, meaning the first

1182
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 13: to have an undefeated national champion in both sports. And

1183
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 13: it comes potentially on the year that we've been wondering

1184
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 13: forever what Indiana could do to one up itself or

1185
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 13: to celebrate the fact that this is the half century mark,

1186
01:08:56,320 --> 01:09:00,839
Speaker 13: the fiftieth anniversary of the nineteen seventy six in basketball

1187
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 13: team going undefeated, And there is no one alive that

1188
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 13: thought Indiana would do it in football. But that's because

1189
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 13: Kurt Signette didn't know this is where he would be

1190
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 13: until they finally came calling. And I'm here for it

1191
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 13: and I love everything about it. Mike Nysolik covers Indiana

1192
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 13: for the Bloomington Herald Times. He's going to join us

1193
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 13: other side Tony East two o'clock. James Boyd two point

1194
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 13: thirty feels like a Monday, but it's a Friday edition

1195
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 13: in quiring company on the fan. What he is our

1196
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 13: friend from the Bloomington Herald Times. He is the beat

1197
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 13: writer for Indiana Athletics. He is Mike Nilek, who joins

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01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 13: us on the Java House peeling poor guest line, And

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01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 13: I got a feeling Mike Nislick is gonna love if

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01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 13: I send him some either the Wrangler energy might be

1201
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 13: more what he needs or the amazingly smooth Columbian coffee

1202
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 13: from Java House peeling poor pods because uh, sleep deprivation

1203
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 13: probably a thing for Mike right now. But there's an energy,

1204
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 13: even though he is a media man and not necessarily

1205
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 13: there on a fan and trip. There's just an energy

1206
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 13: about this Indiana football team and what we saw in Pasadena.

1207
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 13: He is in Chicago on his way back. Mike, how

1208
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:15,600
Speaker 13: are you.

1209
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 14: I'm good. How are you doing?

1210
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 2: I am well? Thank you. Happy New Year to you,

1211
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 2: by the way, Thank you, sir. Let's begin with this.

1212
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 13: I'm strictly curious from your eyes estimate you would say

1213
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 13: that that crowd last night was what percent Indiana fans?

1214
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 19: Yeah, you know, it's funny. I was talking about that.

1215
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 19: You see all those media members kind of throw out numbers,

1216
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 19: and I think sometimes you think, really but like I've

1217
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 19: spent some time kind of looking at it, and it's

1218
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 19: hard obviously because of the red, the red of it

1219
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 19: all and the shared colors, but like I was kind

1220
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 19: of standing out, and you know, it was a very

1221
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 19: kind of had how to get in the stadium. There

1222
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 19: was a lot of que lines, and so I was

1223
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 19: kind of watching this one kind of section where all

1224
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 19: the fans were lined up and watching them to kind

1225
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 19: of see him come in, and it was like it

1226
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 19: really did feel like eighty twenty, Like I mean, that's

1227
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 19: significant of a split.

1228
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know how that.

1229
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,600
Speaker 19: Came through kind of on the broadcast, but you know,

1230
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 19: like the pre game, anytime things Indiana's were shown, there

1231
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 19: were shears and Alabama there were just like all the

1232
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 19: simple stuff of just like a home game type of thing.

1233
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 19: And yeah, I just felt like, and I don't think

1234
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 19: it's an exaggeration. I think it was that, you know,

1235
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 19: you saw it in the city kind of leading up

1236
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 19: to the days of the game, and you're like, man,

1237
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 19: may the Alabama's just staying somewhere else, but like it's

1238
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 19: just the fans but like, yeah, that's what it felt

1239
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 19: like to me.

1240
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 15: You know, the.

1241
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 13: Story there are so many storylines about this, Mike, and

1242
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 13: and at this point I think we should just throw

1243
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 13: out any doubts or any reason of doubts when it

1244
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 13: comes to Kurt Signetti led teams. I just this is

1245
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 13: a remarkable job that he has done. Now, there is

1246
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 13: some truth to the fact that this is a veteran team.

1247
01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 13: It's not a veteran team in terms of playing with

1248
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 13: one another, but it's a veteran team in terms of

1249
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:04,600
Speaker 13: you know, they've used an eel to go out and

1250
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 13: put together this team of experienced players. But Indiana was

1251
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 13: the one team that showed no layoff, no signs of rust.

1252
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 13: In terms of those with a bye, they are the

1253
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,560
Speaker 13: only with a buy Obviously, that's well documented in the

1254
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 13: last two years to advance. Did you see anything that

1255
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 13: led you that that maybe raised your eyebrow in terms

1256
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,679
Speaker 13: of a method that Signetti used to keep his team

1257
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 13: focused throughout that layoff?

1258
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 19: No, And I don't know if there was any magic formula,

1259
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 19: but I just think I to me, it just sort

1260
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 19: of was overblown. Look, and I know one one in

1261
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 19: seven obviously is a thing, but like the one is

1262
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 19: Indiana and it's because like nothing has tripped them up

1263
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 19: so far, like no other distractions, Like I mean it's

1264
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 19: been two years of this right where you've had, oh,

1265
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 19: you know, Michigan's coming up, and this is the biggest game. Oh,

1266
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 19: Ohio State, you know it's here and oh you know

1267
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 19: they got to go to Penn State or they got

1268
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 19: to go to Autsen and like nothings like oh, this

1269
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 19: is a trap game. And it's like none of that stuff,

1270
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 19: Like he's just he's regimented. He sticks to the sticks

1271
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 19: to his sort of system and schedule and routine. And

1272
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 19: you know, these guys are bought in and you mentioned

1273
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 19: the experience, like the core group of players that have

1274
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,759
Speaker 19: experience with him, you still got all those jam you guys,

1275
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 19: Like I just feel like that they get it and

1276
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 19: have bought in, and you know it's like it's there's

1277
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 19: no magic to it. I just think, look, it's routine, right,

1278
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 19: and I know like a lot of these teams try

1279
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 19: to stick to it, but I just think this group

1280
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 19: is just uniquely bought into what their coach is selling,

1281
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 19: I guess at this point, and you.

1282
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 13: Know it's fourteen games, right, is there an area for Indiana. Mike,

1283
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 13: I'll use the term susceptible. Is there an area of

1284
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 13: this football team where you feel they are susceptible that

1285
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 13: you have been surprised that no one has tried to

1286
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 13: take advantage of.

1287
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 19: That thought it was off in terms of like the

1288
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 19: pass rush, and you know, like the first three plays,

1289
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 19: it was like, oh, man, like this the Alabama might

1290
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 19: you know, figured out right, get pressure your sack and

1291
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,640
Speaker 19: and uh, you know use kind of some of the

1292
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 19: disguises or things that that Indiana so that people and

1293
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 19: you know, I thought, you know, the right side, you

1294
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,679
Speaker 19: got a young kid there that that hasn't played a ton,

1295
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 19: you know, starting and bray Lynch just kind of looked

1296
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 19: a little shaky, and oh, you know, maybe it's up there.

1297
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 19: But like and then they dominated up front, you know,

1298
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 19: especially you know it was biting more of the run

1299
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 19: game obviously, but you know for Gando Mendoza had time

1300
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 19: time uh kind of after that first drive. But like,

1301
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 19: you know that that group really bullied Alabama up front,

1302
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 19: dominated you know, to to they round the ball fifty times.

1303
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 19: I was up in kind of fancy. It was you know,

1304
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 19: four yard five yard chunks and we're just gonna hold

1305
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 19: the ball. You only had a ten minute almost nearly

1306
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 19: ten minute time of possession advantage, and so like, you know,

1307
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 19: I just think it's hard, you know, because I think

1308
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 19: one of the keys and it's sort of like so

1309
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 19: simple and so easy like to just say it, but

1310
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 19: like they don't make mistakes, right, Like it's unbelievable. We've

1311
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 19: seen like the special teams mistakes have like just killed

1312
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 19: teams of the playoffs right last couple of weeks, or

1313
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 19: you know, like turnovers, and it's like, how do you

1314
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,560
Speaker 19: I mean, I saw that people. Uh you know, my

1315
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 19: colleague was one of them picked against Indiana, and I

1316
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 19: get that, but like my question for them was, like,

1317
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 19: especially when Alabama has not necessarily kind of played up

1318
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 19: to what they were doing, Like how's any Where's where's there?

1319
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 19: Where's the mistake that happen? Where where is Alabama to

1320
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 19: be able to take advantage of that? They they win

1321
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 19: that game and I just didn't see it, And so

1322
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 19: you know that that to me is what makes them

1323
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 19: so hard to beat right now, you.

1324
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 13: Know, Mike, Mike Nayasilek is my guest, it seems to me,

1325
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 13: and you tell me if I'm oversimplifying this.

1326
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 2: It almost seems like we in.

1327
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 13: The media or fans, whatever it might be, we get

1328
01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:00,720
Speaker 13: over caught or caught up in thinking that coaches are

1329
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 13: constantly attacking the opponent in terms of like what's going

1330
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 13: to work against this team, and it seems like Indiana's

1331
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 13: formula is more so We're not as worried about what

1332
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 13: they're going to do. We're going to go out and

1333
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 13: make sure that we make zero mistakes, and then, knowing

1334
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 13: that every team is going to make two to three

1335
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 13: of them, we're going to pounce on it, take advantage

1336
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 13: of it, and beat you and they just before you

1337
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 13: know it, you're down seventeen points and then you're down

1338
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 13: twenty four and you're waiting for Indiana to cause the

1339
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 13: hick and it just doesn't happen. It seems like Indiana's

1340
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 13: preparation is more about the preparation of Indiana as opposed

1341
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 13: to the preparation against others. Is that overstating it.

1342
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 19: Well, it's part because I think their philosophy actually is

1343
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 19: just to attack at all times on both sides of

1344
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 19: the ball. But to your point, I think what they

1345
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 19: learned last year, what they didn't do is stick to

1346
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 19: their guns and stick to they did get worried about

1347
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 19: what other teams did, what Ohio State did, what Notre

1348
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 19: Dame is, and said, oh, do we have to change

1349
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 19: or do we have to modify? Do we have to

1350
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 19: maybe less aggressive? You know, Like Brian Haynes talked about

1351
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 19: that last year after the Notre Damn game on the

1352
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 19: Big Run, He's like, I did not do what I

1353
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 19: normally do in that situation, and I immediately regretted it.

1354
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 19: Right this year, they've said, we've just got to be us,

1355
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:19,679
Speaker 19: and you know, part of the formula is obviously don't

1356
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 19: make mistakes. But they attack and they come. But it's

1357
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:26,640
Speaker 19: just sticking to what how you call a game or

1358
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 19: how you approach kind of like constructing a game plan,

1359
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 19: like don't let the opponent sort of dictate any sort

1360
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 19: of change. Even though yeah, Alabama had nine five stars starting,

1361
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 19: that shouldn't matter. That shouldn't change kind of how you

1362
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 19: approach calling plays. And I think it was a lesson.

1363
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 19: They learned it through defeat last year and it started

1364
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 19: it changed.

1365
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 15: You know.

1366
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 19: Oregon basically was kind of the first, you know, I

1367
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 19: think the kind of the test that we're talking about,

1368
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 19: and they said, no, this is what we are, this

1369
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 19: is what we do, and then you've seen the results.

1370
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 19: Kind of every time they've had a big test, they

1371
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,719
Speaker 19: have not veered from what's worked. They have not changed

1372
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 19: how they called it, and this is the results.

1373
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 13: Mike Nisa is my guess. He's on the Java House

1374
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 13: Peel and poor guest line covering Indiana. Mike, let's look

1375
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 13: at and you know it's funny. Part of me, in

1376
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 13: my mind thinks we got plenty of time to break

1377
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 13: down the matchup with Oregon. What we don't I mean,

1378
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:18,640
Speaker 13: it's kind of now turned around and boom, there you go.

1379
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:22,639
Speaker 13: When you look back to it, it feels like forever ago.

1380
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 13: But that game with Oregon and Indiana going into Eugene

1381
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,879
Speaker 13: and winning that game. Was that one where Indiana strictly

1382
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 13: outwilled them or was there something that Oregon didn't do

1383
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 13: and left on the table that Indiana now has to

1384
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 13: prepare for.

1385
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 19: Yeah, I think it's really interesting because it's like you

1386
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 19: get a rematch, and I feel like it's like a

1387
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 19: chess match for the coaches that like it's like, well,

1388
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 19: now we've seen everything you've done and we've gone up

1389
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 19: against it, and so like there's there's a lot of

1390
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 19: different layers to it now, and especially coaches that are

1391
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 19: really good, you know, like Dan Lanning and Kurtzy Gutty

1392
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 19: obviously are in the SOMI finals, but like, you know

1393
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 19: Dan Lanning, you know, in terms of of like if

1394
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 19: you're talking about the next maybe most successful coach kind

1395
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 19: of over the last not beyond two years since he

1396
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:08,560
Speaker 19: took over Organ, it's Stan Lanning, right, and so like

1397
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 19: he's really really good in terms of x's and o's,

1398
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:15,560
Speaker 19: in terms of program, program building, and so like you

1399
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,640
Speaker 19: get in a rematch and it's like, man, what do

1400
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 19: you counter? And like you's to your point, like what

1401
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 19: do you change that didn't work? Or try to lean

1402
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 19: in that did work? Like Dante More didn't particularly play well,

1403
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 19: they didn't particularly protect the quarterback.

1404
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 1: Well, you know, like what do you do now?

1405
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 19: And obviously these teams, you know, have you know, that

1406
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 19: was what we like we said week five or week six,

1407
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:39,799
Speaker 19: but you know, the fifth game for each team, their

1408
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 19: body of work and what they've learned kind of throughout

1409
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 19: the season. I think they're both very different teams. Organ's

1410
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 19: much improved. Indiana has learned a ton because they've you know,

1411
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 19: slaid so many dragons basically, and so like, I just

1412
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 19: think it's really interesting. I don't know what the answer

1413
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 19: is to like what organ has to like I mean,

1414
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 19: because like I said, mistake free, like how you beat

1415
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 19: this team. You know, they've got athletes. I think they

1416
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 19: need to sort of lean into more of that in

1417
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 19: their skilled position players and try to get them the ball.

1418
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 19: You know, they did a lot of like stuff like

1419
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 19: side to side. I think they need to get vertical,

1420
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 19: you know, like and kind of try to expose Indiana

1421
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 19: that way because you know, Indian is very good kind

1422
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:20,640
Speaker 19: of on the sidelines like that, but like you know,

1423
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 19: go try to make your weapons kind of put put

1424
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 19: stress on India's defense because not teams have not many

1425
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,560
Speaker 19: teams have done that. So that might be my like

1426
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 19: my biggest takeaway just because I didn't I didn't think

1427
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 19: Oregon's game plan we talked about aggressive and attacking. I

1428
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 19: didn't think Oregon did that the first time.

1429
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 13: Mike, what was the most fun thing, if at all,

1430
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 13: that you did. I don't know how much time you

1431
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,679
Speaker 13: had in Pasadena. The weather was not great. I realized

1432
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 13: that have you been to La much or southern California much?

1433
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:49,680
Speaker 13: And if so, did you get a chance to enjoy anything.

1434
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 19: Been a I mean obviously a couple of times, and

1435
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 19: then obviously went last year for the UCLA trip. Walked

1436
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 19: out to Angels' flight that was cool. I'd never seen that,

1437
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 19: which is kind of like a cable car in downtown LA.

1438
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 19: Just a little kind of scenic cup place. And did

1439
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 19: walk around Universal one day. We've just had press covers

1440
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 19: of the morning, but that was probably you know, obviously

1441
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 19: well busy, very busy.

1442
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 2: The rest of the time, it's I love it out there.

1443
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 2: The weather was not great.

1444
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 13: I realized, now, did you did you red eye at

1445
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 13: last night? Or if you're in if you're in Chicago now,

1446
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 13: I'm guessing you did the ten and to do the

1447
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 13: ten pm red Eye?

1448
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 14: I did the twelve thirty red Eye.

1449
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 2: So yes, wow, So you got no idea what time

1450
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 2: it is right now?

1451
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 15: Right? I mean day week?

1452
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 1: I mean whatever, I don't know, Mike.

1453
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 2: It's a Friday. Find out Friday.

1454
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 13: You're going to sleep over the course of the weekend,

1455
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 13: and then it's down to Atlanta to Chick fil a Land.

1456
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 2: Mike.

1457
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 13: Given that especially, I certainly appreciate the time of the

1458
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 13: insights today.

1459
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 2: Happy New Year to you as well. Look forward to

1460
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 2: talking to you again.

1461
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 19: Yeah, we'll talk you down the line.

1462
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 2: Thanks sir, I appreciate it.

1463
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 13: Mike Isaac from the Bloimton Herald Times joining us on

1464
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 13: his way back from Los Angeles. I had my buddy

1465
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 13: Whitaker went with his family. I mean, I know so

1466
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 13: many people that were at the game. But I called

1467
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 13: him last night and he's like, yeah, we're busting our

1468
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 13: way trying to get to the airport and I think

1469
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 13: they had a ten pm flight that gets in here

1470
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 13: at like five am. And the airport, I mean, oh,

1471
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 13: hair right now has got to be just full of

1472
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,519
Speaker 13: nothing but Indiana fans coming back because there is a

1473
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 13: direct But if you're coming back through there, there were

1474
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 13: a number of them there, I mean a number of

1475
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 13: them there. I have a question for Eddie as it

1476
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 13: relates to something that he probably, speaking of preparation and

1477
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 13: game plan, hasn't even thought about.

1478
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 14: Really, Yep, you don't think I've thought about something, Jake. No,

1479
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,640
Speaker 14: So I'm not that much of a forward thinker or

1480
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 14: what's the thinking here?

1481
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:48,640
Speaker 13: Well, I'm not saying you're not a forward thinker, but

1482
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 13: I think it's something that a lot of people. Just

1483
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:53,560
Speaker 13: you wouldn't be alone if you hadn't thought about it.

1484
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 2: I'll let you know.

1485
01:22:55,840 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 13: Next, okay, Eddie, Here we go on this the second

1486
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 13: day of January twenty twenty six. Happy New Year to

1487
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 13: all of you. First chance we've had to talk to

1488
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 13: you in the new year. It is resume pad day.

1489
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 13: It's what resume pad day? Okay, give me a line

1490
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 13: of work not related to radio. Just give me a

1491
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 13: profession off top of your head, Eddie. Let's come with

1492
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 13: the engineer engineer. So if you're an engineer for well,

1493
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 13: I mean my cousin owns an engineering company.

1494
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:36,600
Speaker 2: We won't use that.

1495
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 13: We'll use a give me a guy you went to

1496
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 13: high school with. Give me a last name of a

1497
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 13: guy you went to high school with Smith.

1498
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 2: Smith. So you are you're an engineer for Smith Engineering Corporation,

1499
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 2: and you started there in two thousand and nineteen.

1500
01:23:56,439 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 13: You know things are going okay, the job's fine, but

1501
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 13: you are surprised in the first week of January to

1502
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 13: come into work and find out that you are being

1503
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 13: laid off from your job. Now, this has happened to me,

1504
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 13: Derek and I I think it was January ninth when

1505
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 13: we were let go from our previous position when we

1506
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 13: were doing radio together. But on your resume now forever,

1507
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 13: you can put that you worked at Smith Engineering from

1508
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 13: twenty nineteen to twenty twenty six, and it's like, oh,

1509
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 13: he worked there seven years. Well he worked there two

1510
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 13: days in twenty twenty six, but you're there nonetheless exactly

1511
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 13: resume pad day, baby, let's go. So here's my question

1512
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:37,679
Speaker 13: for you, Eddie Garrison that I am going to predict

1513
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 13: you have not given a lot of thought, not you personally.

1514
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:44,600
Speaker 13: That's no indictment on you, Eddie, It's just a generalization

1515
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 13: that most people have not given this much thought. Okay,

1516
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 13: give me your top New Year's resolution. I'm not a

1517
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 13: big New Year's resolution guy. Okay, So you have no

1518
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 13: goals for yourself? No, you have no aspirations of any

1519
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 13: higher level for yourself personally or professionally.

1520
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:11,679
Speaker 14: No, not that I'm willing to share it with the radio.

1521
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 14: But yes, Now, why would you not share it over

1522
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 14: the radio?

1523
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 15: Oh?

1524
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 14: Because I don't want words getting to other people.

1525
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 2: Oh yes, other people, meaning personally or professionally.

1526
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 14: I'm not saying one way or another.

1527
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 2: Hmm. And what time of year would you anticipate this

1528
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 2: change might be taking place.

1529
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 14: That's a great question that I am still trying to

1530
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 14: figure out.

1531
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask you one last question.

1532
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 13: Does your credit score have anything to do with potentially

1533
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 13: assisting or having anything to do with this endeavor?

1534
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 14: Not in this particular one. Okay, already got the house.

1535
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 14: Oh okay, So what.

1536
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 2: You're saying is what you might be looking looking for

1537
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 2: is the nickname on.

1538
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 14: What I Hopefully I don't need a new car anytime soon.

1539
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 13: So what you're saying is you might need to be

1540
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:11,679
Speaker 13: looking for a variation of the nickname of the Indiana

1541
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 13: Football Stadium. Come again, what does Don Fisher call Memorial

1542
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:21,639
Speaker 13: Stadium the Rock? Might you be looking for one of those?

1543
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 13: In twenty twenty six?

1544
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 15: I don't know.

1545
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,959
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, thanks for participating in our dialogue.

1546
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 14: You're welcome. Thank you for trying to weasel your way

1547
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 14: into my personal life to now and maybe get back

1548
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 14: to some people.

1549
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 2: Now, just so you know, if you want to know

1550
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 2: how trustworthy I am now.

1551
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 14: Jake, are you gonna is that part of your news

1552
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 14: Year's resolution is the Rock?

1553
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 15: Yeah?

1554
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:50,759
Speaker 14: Maybe maybe I'll believe it when I see it. Okay,

1555
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 14: you can get what nineteen years twenty Okay, sorry, I

1556
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 14: didn't mean to. Do you mean to undersell you there

1557
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 14: for a year, So.

1558
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 13: You're saying that this this might be the year that

1559
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 13: you become Indiana football and there's still the chance of

1560
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 13: getting a ring, right.

1561
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 14: I am not answering that question one way or another.

1562
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:15,919
Speaker 13: What team or sport in this market that we discussed

1563
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 13: do you think needs to have for themselves the biggest

1564
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:22,680
Speaker 13: sit down of a hard New Year's resolution conversation.

1565
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 2: I think without question it's Indianapolis Colts that would seem

1566
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 2: to be accurate.

1567
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 14: Now you could even you could even loop in the

1568
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 14: Indiana Pacers in this equation as well, just because.

1569
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 2: Of where things are at right now.

1570
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 14: You know, you've lost ten consecutive games, and I understand

1571
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 14: you don't have Tyre's Halliburton, but the drop off from

1572
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 14: last year to this year shouldn't be this dramatic. You

1573
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:52,719
Speaker 14: go from one of the best offenses in the National

1574
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 14: Basketball Association.

1575
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 2: To the literal worst. And defensively they've struggled as well.

1576
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 14: Right, Yeah, Like they've had moments where they've been, you know,

1577
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 14: stout defensively for sure, but it just seems like, I

1578
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 14: don't know, you always see the meme of like when

1579
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 14: you click one slider or another one turns on and

1580
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 14: click another slider, the other one turns off. Like the Pacers,

1581
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 14: when they have their offense working, their defense isn't working.

1582
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:18,800
Speaker 14: When they have their defense working, their offense isn't working.

1583
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 14: Like they just have not been able to put all

1584
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 14: the right ingredients into the recipe this season.

1585
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:29,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am very intrigued at this point.

1586
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:33,560
Speaker 13: Because I think we can safely say we have a

1587
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 13: pretty good idea of where things are going to go

1588
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 13: for the Pacers. But I am really fascinated by what

1589
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 13: draft pick they end up with and if it's somebody

1590
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 13: that is literally ready to plug and play. And it's

1591
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 13: been a long time since Indiana, you know, I mean,

1592
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 13: Jaris Walker have been madam with both lottery picks.

1593
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 2: But I don't know that you would.

1594
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 13: Say either one of them, Mathom maybe more so than Walker,

1595
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:00,720
Speaker 13: to be a plug and play guy. And if they

1596
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 13: end up with a top three pick, they may have

1597
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:07,680
Speaker 13: their choice of guys that are plug and play right there.

1598
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:11,640
Speaker 13: And then I do kind of like what they have

1599
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 13: at the depth of the kind of center position play

1600
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 13: that they need, but they do not have the regular

1601
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 13: start at Miles Turner for all you want to say

1602
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:24,719
Speaker 13: about it. The way that he played was critically important

1603
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 13: to what to the way they play and the way

1604
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:28,559
Speaker 13: that they want to play.

1605
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:32,559
Speaker 14: I think there's that And I think the other aspect too,

1606
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 14: is like they just don't seem to have kind of

1607
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 14: like a vocal leader or that locker room guy to

1608
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 14: keep everything together.

1609
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 2: Like you heard Rick Carlisle after the.

1610
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 14: Game against Orlando talking about just some petty stuff has

1611
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 14: been what's been plaguing the Pacers this season and why

1612
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 14: it looks like they're not giving it, giving it.

1613
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 2: They're all every single night or.

1614
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 14: Not playing together some nights, And to me, that just

1615
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 14: kind of like signifies that they're missing something in the

1616
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:01,599
Speaker 14: locker room to kind of prevent that stuff from happening.

1617
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:03,639
Speaker 2: Like there's no more James Johnson on the roster.

1618
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 14: I know he didn't play, but still the presence of

1619
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 14: James Johnson in the back room. Yeah, glue guy. He

1620
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 14: kept everything, everybody together, kept everything connected. The same for

1621
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:15,720
Speaker 14: Tyre's Halliburton, but Tyres is still there. But I mean,

1622
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 14: I think you lose a big voice in James Johnson.

1623
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 14: You lose a big voice on the court and Miles

1624
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 14: Turner and obviously the play of Tyre's Halliburton as well.

1625
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:27,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, we always forget about Obi Toppin also.

1626
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 13: I mean, when you think about minutes that are not there,

1627
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 13: Toppen is a guy that you look at and you go, oh, yeah,

1628
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 13: that's right.

1629
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 2: And he's gone as well.

1630
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 14: And it seems like a pretty good development on the

1631
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 14: top in front.

1632
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:38,720
Speaker 15: Jake.

1633
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 14: I don't know if you saw this or not, but

1634
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 14: prior to that Orlando game, he was on the court,

1635
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 14: he was taking some shots, doing a little bit of

1636
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 14: a shoot around.

1637
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 2: He was out of the boot.

1638
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:50,760
Speaker 14: I know his expected return isn't until the start of February,

1639
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 14: but still nice to see that topping is progressing through

1640
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:55,080
Speaker 14: that foot injury.

1641
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 13: As for the rest of the New Year's resolutions for

1642
01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:01,560
Speaker 13: the Blue and Gold, who better to discuss that and

1643
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 13: more than Tony East joins us next, James Boyd. Bottom

1644
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 13: of the hour Here Querry Company, First day of the

1645
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:07,680
Speaker 13: New year, Happy new year to you.

1646
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 1: What it's Querry in Company. I'm going to be keeping

1647
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 1: your company for the next few hours. You are not

1648
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:15,599
Speaker 1: going to believe the company.

1649
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:16,240
Speaker 15: This company.

1650
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 3: You're in a bankrupt your mama's company.

1651
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:19,599
Speaker 1: At least I have the radio to keep me company.

1652
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 1: On ninety three to five and one oh seven five

1653
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 1: the fan.

1654
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:25,879
Speaker 4: With the way you guys had turned around this program,

1655
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 4: you keep setting a new standard for the greatest moment

1656
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 4: in Indiana history.

1657
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 5: First, it was winning a game like Morgan on the road.

1658
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 6: Dante More. He takes the staff, he throws it.

1659
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 5: It's tipped up for the air.

1660
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:44,520
Speaker 7: It comes up for the football lost more for the interception.

1661
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 8: It was meeting Ohio State for the Big Ten Championship.

1662
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 2: And it's third data six.

1663
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 9: Fernando takes it back to throw, fires it down the

1664
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 9: field and it is come.

1665
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 5: Hold comes now twinning the.

1666
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:03,320
Speaker 4: Rosebull for the first time. He going to the semifinals.

1667
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 10: Here's the staff back to Fernando has time rowing over

1668
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:06,800
Speaker 10: the medal.

1669
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 2: He's got backers.

1670
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 9: Chicker, Yeah, Tornando's there, he's under center Himmy is the

1671
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:16,639
Speaker 9: running back.

1672
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:18,320
Speaker 2: Here's the staff.

1673
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 5: Takes the handoff, looks the thrown dust throw.

1674
01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 15: At the end of touchstop.

1675
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 9: Old Mark Cooper Junior touch himby on the backfield. Now

1676
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:33,759
Speaker 9: with Bernando Mendoza takes the staff. Fernando looks left, Flashi Danna.

1677
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:34,719
Speaker 2: Feel he's got surrounded.

1678
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 11: What a perfect grow by Fernando twenty four yards Indiana

1679
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:44,200
Speaker 11: Stories Again.

1680
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:47,479
Speaker 4: How would you describe the turn around at what you've

1681
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:49,000
Speaker 4: been able to build in a.

1682
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 5: Short period of time? The hell of a movie?

1683
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:55,640
Speaker 12: Well, my husband wants to do something. He wants to

1684
01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:59,640
Speaker 12: sink that damn So what I what I want to do?

1685
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 13: Rhys Davis Don Fisher on the radio call for the

1686
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:11,600
Speaker 13: Indiana University Football Radio Network and lear Field obviously you

1687
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 13: heard there as well from Pac Hugan, the offensive lineman

1688
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 13: the Center for Indiana talking about Bernanda Mendoza, and then

1689
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 13: Kurt Signetti's comment says, Indiana now is the presumptive favorite

1690
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:26,840
Speaker 13: to win the national championship. Yes, there are two games,

1691
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:28,720
Speaker 13: let's play. The next one is a big one, a

1692
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:31,320
Speaker 13: rematch against Oregon. But the thing that I think that

1693
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:36,840
Speaker 13: people myself included might have simply overlooked about Indiana, and

1694
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 13: I mentioned it with Mike Nysialik. There we so often

1695
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 13: look at, especially when you get this far down the line,

1696
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:49,599
Speaker 13: this late in the year and you only have four

1697
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 13: teams left. Oftentimes it's about the stardom of players, and

1698
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:56,600
Speaker 13: it's about the you know, how good players are? You know,

1699
01:33:56,720 --> 01:33:59,799
Speaker 13: Jeremiah Smith is probably the best player in college football.

1700
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 13: But with Indiana, the formula for success seemingly has not

1701
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 13: been about dwelling on individualized talent. And I'm not saying

1702
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 13: that Ohio State does that, or Georgia or whatever else.

1703
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 13: But it's not about who Indiana is as much as

1704
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 13: it is simply this, or even about what you try

1705
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 13: to do against Indiana. I think it's as much about this.

1706
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 13: Kurt Signetti believes in quality over quantity. It's not about

1707
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:37,600
Speaker 13: the number of stars you have coming in. It's not

1708
01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 13: about the number of reps you have to play. It's

1709
01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 13: about the quality and the way in which you go

1710
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 13: about it. They don't practice for four or five hours

1711
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 13: a day. They don't overdo things as much as simply this.

1712
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 13: They simply know what they need to do, and they

1713
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 13: perfect manner in which they do it, and they do

1714
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 13: not make mistakes. And if you're playing against Indiana, it

1715
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 13: might be midway through the third quarter, it might be

1716
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 13: late in the game like it was in Eugene against Oregon,

1717
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 13: but eventually the first mistake of the game is going

1718
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,599
Speaker 13: to be turned in by you and not by Indiana,

1719
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:22,919
Speaker 13: and Indiana pounces and thrives off that that's their oxygen.

1720
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 13: And they don't make mistakes and they simply wait for

1721
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 13: you to do so. And if you do so two

1722
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:30,680
Speaker 13: to three times in a game, then that's two or

1723
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 13: three scores you're down. And that's the formula. It is

1724
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 13: more simple, and I don't think anybody has really stopped

1725
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 13: to think about that. Myself included that it is Indiana

1726
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:49,720
Speaker 13: is winning by simplifying a formula that other teams try

1727
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:51,719
Speaker 13: to outthink. And if you try to get cute against

1728
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:54,759
Speaker 13: Indiana and you try to get creative and new trick plays,

1729
01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 13: Indiana is ahead of it in terms of they are

1730
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 13: so well coached and they just take care of their

1731
01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 13: area and they don't worry about the rest. And I

1732
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 13: thought the best thing that Kurt Signetti said is when

1733
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:11,720
Speaker 13: he was asked, was there concern this moment would be

1734
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 13: too big for your team? And he said, why would

1735
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:15,040
Speaker 13: it be too big for us? Just because our name

1736
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 13: says Indiana. And that's what I said going into the game.

1737
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:22,160
Speaker 13: It's like aj Moye said when Indiana was playing Duke

1738
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 13: in two thousand and two. Their jersey says Duke. It

1739
01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 13: doesn't say Jesus Christ and the Disciples and that's the

1740
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 13: way you got to look at it. So now it's

1741
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 13: on to take on Oregon in the Peach Bowl. There

1742
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 13: is basketball to be played as well. It takes place

1743
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:41,960
Speaker 13: tonight Gambridge Field House, San Antonio without Webmam Miyama joining

1744
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 13: us now in the Java House, Peel and poor guest line.

1745
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:45,960
Speaker 2: You hear him on these radio airwaves.

1746
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:48,519
Speaker 13: You also see him in terms of his work, and

1747
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 13: hear it with locked on pacers Forbes, WTHR other places.

1748
01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 13: Tony East joining us now, Tony, Happy New Year to you,

1749
01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 13: Thank you.

1750
01:36:57,439 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 15: I'm buzzing. The Hoosiers are good at football. That's their

1751
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:02,280
Speaker 15: first ball one in my lifetime, and they beat Alabama

1752
01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 15: in the Rose Ball. That just sounds hilarious to say

1753
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:04,640
Speaker 15: out out now.

1754
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 2: When you say you're buzzing, you mean you've been drinking.

1755
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:09,519
Speaker 15: I did, in fact, to drink on New Year's I

1756
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 15: don't drink very often these days, but I.

1757
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:11,760
Speaker 2: Did enjoy it.

1758
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 13: Allow me to ask this, and by the way, not

1759
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:17,960
Speaker 13: to make me feel old, but that win in the

1760
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:21,760
Speaker 13: Copper Bowl was over Baylor. I think it was twenty

1761
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 13: four to three. Von Dunbar was on that team.

1762
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 2: Trent Green.

1763
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 13: I watched that at Chris Jordan's house. It was my

1764
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:31,599
Speaker 13: freshman year of college, and interestingly enough, Chris Jordan, who

1765
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:33,639
Speaker 13: went to and is a dieheart fan of Ohio State.

1766
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 13: And then we watched the National championship game that year

1767
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 13: at Chris Farcas's house because he is now a graduate

1768
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:43,560
Speaker 13: of and at that time was a freshman at Alabama.

1769
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:46,920
Speaker 13: And the thought that Indiana, ever as we watched with

1770
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 13: Jordan's house dorned in Buckeye stuff and Farcas's house with Alabama.

1771
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:54,599
Speaker 13: So the thought that ever, the day would come where

1772
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:56,680
Speaker 13: Indiana would have back to back wins over those two

1773
01:37:56,720 --> 01:38:00,559
Speaker 13: programs is literally the most absurd thing on the planet.

1774
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:04,560
Speaker 15: And here we are right and convincing in one of

1775
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:06,639
Speaker 15: the cases, like wasn't even close.

1776
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:07,799
Speaker 3: It's just ridiculous.

1777
01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:12,280
Speaker 13: Before we get to the Pacers, let me ask this, Tony,

1778
01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:15,600
Speaker 13: since you've mentioned that you had a few beverages on

1779
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 13: New Year's Eve. I asked this of Eddie earlier, and

1780
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:22,799
Speaker 13: I want your perspective, and I'm asking you to openly

1781
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 13: disagree with me if I'm wrong here. It seems to

1782
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 13: me and maybe this is because of my I don't know,

1783
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:35,800
Speaker 13: but more so this year than years past, it seems like, collectively,

1784
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 13: as a culture, New Year's Eve just kind of came

1785
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 13: and went on us, and it was like, oh okay,

1786
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:45,240
Speaker 13: and we didn't have Usually it's ubiquitous the week leading

1787
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:49,280
Speaker 13: into New Year's of like advertisements or conversation of this

1788
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 13: restaurant's having a huge celebration for one price, you get

1789
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:55,720
Speaker 13: this that and a champagne toast, or a band that's

1790
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:58,320
Speaker 13: going to be playing, or here's the big gala that's

1791
01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:00,800
Speaker 13: taking place downtown, or the fire works will be here,

1792
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 13: or here is your top twenty stories of twenty twenty five,

1793
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 13: or the legends that we lost this past year, or

1794
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:11,680
Speaker 13: the best songs of the year countdown, et cetera. And

1795
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:14,200
Speaker 13: I kind of seemingly felt none of that this year.

1796
01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:16,479
Speaker 13: I'm not complaining about it. It wasn't like people were

1797
01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:20,040
Speaker 13: papooing it. It just seemed like collectively we just kind

1798
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 13: of breezed past it and weren't paying attention.

1799
01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 2: Am I totally wrong or did I miss something?

1800
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:29,639
Speaker 15: It's not. I think it's the day of the week, right,

1801
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:32,840
Speaker 15: Like Thursday's kind of a crappy day for New Year's

1802
01:39:33,479 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 15: So the middle of the week, something like my wife

1803
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:37,040
Speaker 15: went back to work, today, right Friday.

1804
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 2: Obviously I did too, right, yeah.

1805
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:41,760
Speaker 15: Right, right, Well, I'm you know, Pacers play obviously, but

1806
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:44,599
Speaker 15: like it just and I think that made it die

1807
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:47,519
Speaker 15: a little bit. And that weird week between Christmas and

1808
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:49,519
Speaker 15: New Year's didn't feel the same. But to Day's the week,

1809
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 15: that's what I think it was.

1810
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:52,920
Speaker 13: So so I am correct though in the fact that

1811
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:56,640
Speaker 13: it just did seem kind of I'm not saying I

1812
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:59,760
Speaker 13: enjoyed it, right, but it just didn't have the same

1813
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:04,559
Speaker 13: of years past. I'm not wrong then, right, I agree

1814
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:06,439
Speaker 13: with that. I agree with that, all right, So let's

1815
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:08,320
Speaker 13: talk about this the new year of twenty six. That

1816
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:10,680
Speaker 13: means twenty twenty five has come to a close. That

1817
01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:13,920
Speaker 13: means the greatest season in Pacers history in terms of

1818
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 13: their NBA period, at least certainly in a postseason we

1819
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:20,599
Speaker 13: turn the calendar page.

1820
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 2: Now, what is the mindset?

1821
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:26,640
Speaker 13: Do you believe I think most of us know that

1822
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:30,280
Speaker 13: the Pacers are where they are because of attrition injury,

1823
01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:34,320
Speaker 13: and then if you want to talk about some interesting lineups,

1824
01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:39,760
Speaker 13: But do you believe that the natives are beginning to

1825
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:42,439
Speaker 13: get restless? And by that I mean the veterans on

1826
01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:42,920
Speaker 13: this team.

1827
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:47,000
Speaker 15: I think they thought they'd be better than the worst

1828
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:49,880
Speaker 15: record in the league by like a lot, certainly at

1829
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:52,200
Speaker 15: this stage of the season. And you know, I think

1830
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:54,680
Speaker 15: what's frustrating if you're any of those players that were

1831
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:58,240
Speaker 15: you know, alluding to we're talking about, is that, you know,

1832
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:01,360
Speaker 15: you lose a different way every night. Like it feels

1833
01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:04,400
Speaker 15: like they correct this, and then if they can't rebound

1834
01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:06,840
Speaker 15: against the Rockets and then they have a million turnovers

1835
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 15: against Eat and there are fourth quarter offensive operates against

1836
01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:12,839
Speaker 15: the Magic and their defense goes away against the Celtics

1837
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:16,880
Speaker 15: for twelve minutes, it's like there's just no consistency or

1838
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:19,479
Speaker 15: thing to lean on. And so even though they have

1839
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:21,479
Speaker 15: I mean, you watch them play a lot in person

1840
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:24,560
Speaker 15: like they have I would say, thirty five minutes a

1841
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:27,840
Speaker 15: game where I'm like, yep, they look fine, are pretty good,

1842
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 15: or like they're they're good players that we thought would

1843
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:33,080
Speaker 15: be good all season, or that actually were good all

1844
01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:36,760
Speaker 15: of last season, or whatever this you know, reality may be.

1845
01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 15: They all look good, they all look effective, and then

1846
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:42,880
Speaker 15: there's some thing that happens where it all just evaporates

1847
01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:46,280
Speaker 15: all at once for who knows what reason, and then

1848
01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:49,120
Speaker 15: they lose because of that, and it's something different every time,

1849
01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:51,120
Speaker 15: which has to be so frustrating. If you think you're

1850
01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:53,680
Speaker 15: talented enough to do it and you're not, you just

1851
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:56,360
Speaker 15: can't actually get the wins that you feel like you

1852
01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:58,839
Speaker 15: should be getting. So I understand why it would be taxing,

1853
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:02,120
Speaker 15: and it has been, and I understand why the reactions

1854
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:04,519
Speaker 15: to their accord are what they are because the team

1855
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:06,519
Speaker 15: looked like it could at least be decent. Right, They've

1856
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:09,080
Speaker 15: been close to a five hundred team about halberd in

1857
01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 15: past season, and they are not even in that ballpark

1858
01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:14,080
Speaker 15: or realm or whatever you want to say this, he's

1859
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:14,559
Speaker 15: not even.

1860
01:42:14,439 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 2: Close, Tony.

1861
01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:19,200
Speaker 13: When you look at the draft this year, and what

1862
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:22,280
Speaker 13: I mean, listen, it was during the finals, was it

1863
01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 13: not when that trade took place to get back their

1864
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:24,960
Speaker 13: first round pick?

1865
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:32,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god, And I listen, I'm going to show.

1866
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:38,200
Speaker 13: If I had to guess, I'm trying to think of

1867
01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:41,560
Speaker 13: who they traded with to get who.

1868
01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:42,960
Speaker 15: It was that happened the Pelicans?

1869
01:42:43,080 --> 01:42:43,719
Speaker 2: Was it New Orleans?

1870
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 13: I was thinking Oklahoma City, but so New Orleans? So

1871
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:50,760
Speaker 13: they trade with New Orleans? Who did they send?

1872
01:42:50,840 --> 01:42:53,960
Speaker 15: Do you recall the whole trade was just the twenty

1873
01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:57,320
Speaker 15: third pick for so that the pick they that they

1874
01:42:57,479 --> 01:42:59,800
Speaker 15: currently sent the Pelicans was top four protected for this

1875
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:02,200
Speaker 15: year is the twenty third pick, and I think the

1876
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 15: draft rights to Mojave King for their pick this year.

1877
01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:08,880
Speaker 15: That is it. And the Pelicans bet was basically, oh

1878
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:11,280
Speaker 15: my gosh, you guys are awesome. We want the picks

1879
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:12,639
Speaker 15: now because we need the young talent.

1880
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:12,920
Speaker 5: In the door.

1881
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:15,760
Speaker 15: But to this now, like you could be gonna get

1882
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:17,360
Speaker 15: next year, it could be worse than twenty three, which

1883
01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:19,040
Speaker 15: is very funny in retrospect.

1884
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:22,840
Speaker 2: So they end up with what is going to be?

1885
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:26,360
Speaker 13: Can we safely say that the odds are very high

1886
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:28,879
Speaker 13: that they will have a top five.

1887
01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:30,760
Speaker 2: Pick, right yeah?

1888
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:32,640
Speaker 15: Right now? Five is their four and they have a

1889
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:34,840
Speaker 15: one and a half two whatever you want to say

1890
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:38,599
Speaker 15: game advantage in the inverse standings. And Brooklyn, who everybody

1891
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:41,240
Speaker 15: thought would be the worst team, is five games away.

1892
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:43,880
Speaker 15: That's the fifth worst record, so they're the four worst team.

1893
01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 15: The three worst teams all have the same lottery odds,

1894
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:49,240
Speaker 15: Like there's a healthy chance to have the best odds

1895
01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 15: at the at the top whatever picks this year.

1896
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1897
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:56,519
Speaker 13: So the reason I ask it, Tony, this is and

1898
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:58,439
Speaker 13: I don't know how much you get into like draft

1899
01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:01,960
Speaker 13: type stuff, but this is a very front loaded draft.

1900
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:03,559
Speaker 13: I think it's a good draft all the way around.

1901
01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:07,400
Speaker 13: But the top five picks at minimum in this draft

1902
01:44:08,479 --> 01:44:11,799
Speaker 13: seemingly are immediate can immediate play level guys.

1903
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 15: Correct, I'm never a big rookies can impact winning right

1904
01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:19,680
Speaker 15: away guy in general, but that is the sense I've

1905
01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 15: gotten from people who know anything about this draft. And

1906
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:28,559
Speaker 15: the top three specifically seem absurdly good in Peterson, Devonsa,

1907
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 15: and Boozer, and everybody tells me this Caleb Wilson kid

1908
01:44:31,240 --> 01:44:34,400
Speaker 15: is amazing, and there's a bunch of other really good players.

1909
01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:36,560
Speaker 15: And you know, my theory of rookies, I mean, the

1910
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:38,479
Speaker 15: rookies usually just don't know what to do or like

1911
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:41,120
Speaker 15: high level systems are confusing for them. And that's fine,

1912
01:44:41,160 --> 01:44:43,360
Speaker 15: Like that's true of a lot of young players. But

1913
01:44:43,479 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 15: this year, specifically in the NBA, a lot of rookies

1914
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:48,720
Speaker 15: have been good. Right, So maybe I'm I'm ahead of

1915
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:50,880
Speaker 15: my skis by saying that all the time, But you know,

1916
01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:53,439
Speaker 15: you always wonder with a team that's in this situation,

1917
01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:56,240
Speaker 15: like they're really good now and they're getting a high pick,

1918
01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:58,479
Speaker 15: like how much can that player actually help them? Now,

1919
01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:00,160
Speaker 15: how much should they be playing when their goals or

1920
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:02,360
Speaker 15: to win. But if these players are as good as

1921
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:05,559
Speaker 15: people say they could be, it's obviously a nice needle

1922
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:06,320
Speaker 15: to threat.

1923
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:06,879
Speaker 3: As the Pacers.

1924
01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:09,800
Speaker 2: What have we seen, if anything out of Michaeh Potter.

1925
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:14,920
Speaker 15: Yeah, he's been really solid, right they closed or excuse me,

1926
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:16,760
Speaker 15: how to closed the game with him? In their last

1927
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:18,760
Speaker 15: game they started the second half with him because I

1928
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 15: mean Jay Hoff wasn't effective again or Dana Jackson's out,

1929
01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:24,120
Speaker 15: Tony Bradley's strengths are what they are. They didn't need

1930
01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 15: that in particular against the Magic And like he had

1931
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:29,720
Speaker 15: six assists in Newston, Michael Potter did, like a lot

1932
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:31,880
Speaker 15: of their centers have never had a six assist game

1933
01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:34,200
Speaker 15: in their entire career. He's already made more threes this

1934
01:45:34,280 --> 01:45:36,800
Speaker 15: season than Jackson or Wiseman or Bradley has. He's been

1935
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:39,439
Speaker 15: on the team for four games. Maybe it's that was

1936
01:45:39,640 --> 01:45:41,320
Speaker 15: just a great matchup for him, and we don't see

1937
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:44,280
Speaker 15: those kind of statistical nights from him going forward, but

1938
01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:47,639
Speaker 15: he certainly gives them a different element, at least at

1939
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:49,400
Speaker 15: the five. I would say the biggest thing holding him

1940
01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:51,519
Speaker 15: back is that he's definitely the shortest of their bigs

1941
01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:53,800
Speaker 15: and maybe the least effective on the glass. But I

1942
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:58,000
Speaker 15: mean I also very rarely when you know, positing about

1943
01:45:58,000 --> 01:45:59,280
Speaker 15: what he's done in a game have been like, oh,

1944
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:01,479
Speaker 15: he really stunk at this, or like, wow, he made

1945
01:46:01,479 --> 01:46:03,479
Speaker 15: a terrible mistake when he did that. Like he just

1946
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:06,320
Speaker 15: goes to where he's supposed to and set the screen

1947
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:08,639
Speaker 15: and keeps the ball moving and can hit a jumper

1948
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:11,840
Speaker 15: every so often, and that kind of player can be valuable. Right.

1949
01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:14,840
Speaker 15: It certainly has been well in their system so far.

1950
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:17,960
Speaker 15: They've got it a side on their non guaranteed contracts.

1951
01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 15: At some point in the next five days, that's him

1952
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:22,360
Speaker 15: and Tony Bradley. But you know, I would have taught

1953
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:23,960
Speaker 15: right after they signed him that Potter was just a

1954
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 15: filling until Jackson returned. But he's he's at least trying

1955
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:29,560
Speaker 15: to make a case that he should stick beyond that

1956
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:30,680
Speaker 15: because he's playing pretty well.

1957
01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 13: At what point, Tony Tony East is my guest Java

1958
01:46:34,280 --> 01:46:36,840
Speaker 13: House Peel and poor guest line. At what point with

1959
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:40,640
Speaker 13: jaris Walker, did we just say to quote, you know

1960
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:42,920
Speaker 13: Denny Green, like he is who he thought he was,

1961
01:46:43,479 --> 01:46:45,360
Speaker 13: and we know what it is.

1962
01:46:47,080 --> 01:46:49,960
Speaker 15: I have a hard time with answering that only because

1963
01:46:50,479 --> 01:46:53,479
Speaker 15: I mean the flashes he's shown above this level were

1964
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:56,120
Speaker 15: like kind of consistent at the end of last year.

1965
01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:59,160
Speaker 15: I mean, he's shooting twelve percent worse from the field

1966
01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:01,880
Speaker 15: than last season. Now, obviously his volume is higher, but

1967
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:04,000
Speaker 15: not by that much. Like it doesn't seem like he

1968
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:07,040
Speaker 15: should be shooting this much worse. And the other thing is,

1969
01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:09,200
Speaker 15: I know he got hurt in the conference finals, so

1970
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:12,400
Speaker 15: people forgot, but like he made forty percent of his

1971
01:47:12,479 --> 01:47:14,240
Speaker 15: threes in the playoffs, he played in twelve games in

1972
01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:17,160
Speaker 15: the rotation, like he was okay. He wasn't like awesome,

1973
01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:19,880
Speaker 15: but he was okay in the playoffs and better than

1974
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:23,439
Speaker 15: he is playing at times this season. So I don't

1975
01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:26,840
Speaker 15: think he's as bad as he has shown at times

1976
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:28,400
Speaker 15: this year. Like that road trip they went on in

1977
01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:31,559
Speaker 15: early November was like, oh my god, what is happening

1978
01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:34,160
Speaker 15: right now? Every game was a struggle, but he was

1979
01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:37,679
Speaker 15: like over again, overwhelmingly solid down the stretch last season.

1980
01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:39,960
Speaker 15: I want to say, his last like fifteen to sixteen games,

1981
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:41,800
Speaker 15: I can pull it up on talking. Yeah, the last

1982
01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:43,840
Speaker 15: sixteen games of this season. Last year, the Pacers went

1983
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:46,640
Speaker 15: thirteen to three. Jaris Walker made fifty two percent of

1984
01:47:46,760 --> 01:47:51,160
Speaker 15: all his shots and average I can't read. Apparently it

1985
01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:53,679
Speaker 15: was averaging healthy numbers across the board eight nine points

1986
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:56,120
Speaker 15: a game, four rebounds. Then in the playoffs continued to

1987
01:47:56,479 --> 01:47:58,559
Speaker 15: be productive before he hurt his ankle in the last

1988
01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 15: in that game six against the nixt So I've seen

1989
01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:03,360
Speaker 15: him be better than this, So I don't want to

1990
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:05,680
Speaker 15: just use the judgment of this season to be like

1991
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:08,599
Speaker 15: it's over. But this is a lot of games where

1992
01:48:09,280 --> 01:48:11,960
Speaker 15: he looks ineffective or he makes a turnover that makes

1993
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:14,599
Speaker 15: you scratch your head or whatever it is, even though

1994
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:17,080
Speaker 15: the rebounding has been closer what they hope, like, he

1995
01:48:17,160 --> 01:48:19,960
Speaker 15: does make passes that are nice for a connector type.

1996
01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:22,000
Speaker 15: He does make his shots. The last couple of games

1997
01:48:22,040 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 15: he's been hitting. I think he's nine for his last

1998
01:48:24,040 --> 01:48:26,560
Speaker 15: four team from the field, Like, there is a framework

1999
01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 15: of a player who is impactable in there, right, and

2000
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 15: we've seen that player exist in real important games before.

2001
01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 15: But this is driving. He is like the least efficient

2002
01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:37,639
Speaker 15: player in the league on any sort of real volume,

2003
01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:39,760
Speaker 15: and that is who he's been for a lot of

2004
01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:42,640
Speaker 15: this season. His VPM is like bottom five in the

2005
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:44,439
Speaker 15: entire NBA, which is one of those all in one

2006
01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:47,160
Speaker 15: impacts that So I don't know that I think this

2007
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:49,559
Speaker 15: is truly who he is. I think he's better than

2008
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:51,439
Speaker 15: what he showed this year, but I do think he

2009
01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:53,680
Speaker 15: has showed that there is a the role for him

2010
01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:55,960
Speaker 15: to be. The most effective player that he currently can

2011
01:48:56,040 --> 01:48:58,599
Speaker 15: be in his current state is a very low volume

2012
01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:01,479
Speaker 15: offensive player, like who is more of a connector than

2013
01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:04,280
Speaker 15: a play finisher or setup man, and that very much

2014
01:49:04,360 --> 01:49:06,920
Speaker 15: limits the ceiling of what he can do to help

2015
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:08,680
Speaker 15: a team right now, because then he's just kind of

2016
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:11,240
Speaker 15: like a side guy who's not that great on defense

2017
01:49:11,320 --> 01:49:12,840
Speaker 15: and you're just kind of hoping to move the ball

2018
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:13,439
Speaker 15: and doesn't turn.

2019
01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:13,920
Speaker 3: It over that much.

2020
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:17,320
Speaker 14: Tony, when you had me on your podcast Lockdown Pacers

2021
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:19,400
Speaker 14: probably a month ago, we were talking about Jarvis Walker,

2022
01:49:19,439 --> 01:49:21,280
Speaker 14: and something I brought up to you is that I

2023
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:23,439
Speaker 14: was just curious of like, if all the injuries that

2024
01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:27,080
Speaker 14: have the Pacers have endured this year, guys haven't been

2025
01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:29,840
Speaker 14: able to kind of clearly define their roles, and I

2026
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:31,920
Speaker 14: think Jeris is still in that category, like do we

2027
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:34,760
Speaker 14: even know what his role is with this team? And

2028
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:36,920
Speaker 14: now that they're starting to get healthier, could we see

2029
01:49:37,000 --> 01:49:39,720
Speaker 14: that level of play that we saw the final month

2030
01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:41,959
Speaker 14: to two months of the regular season and the postseason

2031
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:42,879
Speaker 14: that you just highlighted.

2032
01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:45,640
Speaker 15: Yeah, that's a great point and we were kind of

2033
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 15: asking Rick Carlisle about that before the last game. Is like,

2034
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:52,640
Speaker 15: when you're looking at development and trying to plan what

2035
01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:56,520
Speaker 15: a player's development path is, is it harder to identify

2036
01:49:57,160 --> 01:49:59,160
Speaker 15: what they're getting better at or what kind of pack

2037
01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 15: they're on when you've been so hurt or you've signed

2038
01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:04,160
Speaker 15: so many new players, which they had to do all

2039
01:50:04,200 --> 01:50:07,479
Speaker 15: that because of their injuries. But that means that Jaris

2040
01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:09,680
Speaker 15: Walker in this game is a three playing next to

2041
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:11,639
Speaker 15: these players in this game, he's a four play next

2042
01:50:11,680 --> 01:50:13,960
Speaker 15: to these guys in this game. He's playing in a

2043
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:16,040
Speaker 15: small ball unit with no center with these guys, and

2044
01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:16,840
Speaker 15: this game he's starting.

2045
01:50:16,840 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 8: In this game.

2046
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:19,280
Speaker 15: He's not got YadA. Like you all understand it if

2047
01:50:19,280 --> 01:50:21,840
Speaker 15: you've watched the games that could go on forever. That's

2048
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:24,400
Speaker 15: hard and like we've heard from some of these guys,

2049
01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:28,400
Speaker 15: that part of development is being able to be good

2050
01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:31,800
Speaker 15: when your role changes. Right, So this is still not

2051
01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:35,160
Speaker 15: a good thing, but it is harder to be consistently

2052
01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:37,920
Speaker 15: impactful when you don't know where your shots are coming

2053
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:39,720
Speaker 15: from every night, or the guys who are setting you

2054
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:42,280
Speaker 15: up for those shots are different every night, or whatever

2055
01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:43,000
Speaker 15: it's going to be.

2056
01:50:43,240 --> 01:50:44,000
Speaker 3: That is different.

2057
01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:47,080
Speaker 15: So again, if you're legitimately a great player, if your

2058
01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:49,599
Speaker 15: role changes, you're still going to be good, right obviously,

2059
01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:53,200
Speaker 15: So that is an obvious, important distinction in this conversation.

2060
01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:57,640
Speaker 15: But him and Ben Shepherd and honestly most guys with

2061
01:50:57,720 --> 01:51:00,000
Speaker 15: high winzard the team has been have had to play

2062
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:01,880
Speaker 15: like kind of a different role all the time. If

2063
01:51:01,880 --> 01:51:03,760
Speaker 15: you're a role player on the Pacers, your role has

2064
01:51:03,760 --> 01:51:05,840
Speaker 15: been different a lot, and I think that has hurt

2065
01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:09,639
Speaker 15: their chance of, you know, consistent game finding their spots

2066
01:51:09,640 --> 01:51:12,040
Speaker 15: every night. Whereas last year, like you're saying, they were

2067
01:51:12,120 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 15: really healthy down the stretch, really healthy, and thento the playoffs,

2068
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:17,080
Speaker 15: like he was their only major injury intel game seven

2069
01:51:17,080 --> 01:51:19,679
Speaker 15: of the finals, right, Like they could have played everybody

2070
01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:21,280
Speaker 15: in the same role over and over and over again,

2071
01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:23,960
Speaker 15: and I think that helped. And so they're getting healthy

2072
01:51:24,040 --> 01:51:26,639
Speaker 15: now knock on wood for the first time in thirty

2073
01:51:26,680 --> 01:51:29,919
Speaker 15: whatever games, Like maybe that will help is having everybody

2074
01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:32,040
Speaker 15: back and ready to go, and then everybody's in the

2075
01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:33,439
Speaker 15: right seat on the bus and they can do what

2076
01:51:33,439 --> 01:51:35,200
Speaker 15: they're supposed to do, or they hoped they were supposed

2077
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:35,280
Speaker 15: to do.

2078
01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:38,200
Speaker 14: Tony East joins us on the Java House Peel and

2079
01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:38,880
Speaker 14: Port guest line.

2080
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:39,160
Speaker 2: Tony.

2081
01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:43,679
Speaker 14: After the game on Wednesday against Orlando, Rick Carlisle said,

2082
01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:45,639
Speaker 14: in the second half, we played like a team together

2083
01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:48,720
Speaker 14: that was supporting each other and not like strangers. That's

2084
01:51:48,760 --> 01:51:50,800
Speaker 14: how this has got to be. We're having too much

2085
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:54,360
Speaker 14: petty nonsense going on during games that needs to go away.

2086
01:51:54,439 --> 01:51:57,720
Speaker 14: A two parterre here. Part one, what petty nonsense do

2087
01:51:57,840 --> 01:52:01,120
Speaker 14: you think that Rick Carlisle is alluding to? And part

2088
01:52:01,240 --> 01:52:04,200
Speaker 14: number two is what changed in the second half? That

2089
01:52:04,479 --> 01:52:06,720
Speaker 14: looked like more of the pacers of last year, where

2090
01:52:06,720 --> 01:52:08,360
Speaker 14: they were spreading the ball around and kind of looked

2091
01:52:08,360 --> 01:52:09,439
Speaker 14: more of a cohesive unit.

2092
01:52:10,439 --> 01:52:12,400
Speaker 15: Yeah. I tried to ask for specifics. I know he

2093
01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:14,120
Speaker 15: wasn't gonna answer, but I did want to know if

2094
01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:16,479
Speaker 15: he had anything. But he kind of alluded to it

2095
01:52:16,520 --> 01:52:20,160
Speaker 15: because he mentioned when he let off about petty nun

2096
01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:23,280
Speaker 15: sense how much better their defense was in the second half.

2097
01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:25,200
Speaker 15: I think they allowed sixty eight or points in the

2098
01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:26,920
Speaker 15: first half and forty four or something. I don't know

2099
01:52:26,960 --> 01:52:29,280
Speaker 15: if that mass right, but something like that in that

2100
01:52:29,400 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 15: game against Orlando. And so I said, okay, well, what

2101
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:33,400
Speaker 15: was better in that second half? And he said, we

2102
01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:35,640
Speaker 15: were concerned with the play that was happening right now

2103
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:37,760
Speaker 15: and the play that was going to be happening immediately next,

2104
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 15: and not whether we were touching the ball or getting

2105
01:52:39,880 --> 01:52:42,400
Speaker 15: a shot or not getting a shot, that kind of stuff.

2106
01:52:42,439 --> 01:52:44,600
Speaker 15: And that's when he went on to talk about what

2107
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:46,760
Speaker 15: the team and the organization and ownership and all that

2108
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:49,680
Speaker 15: is about, and distractions with officials. So I would say

2109
01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:52,080
Speaker 15: that that was very coded. It's something in there, right.

2110
01:52:52,479 --> 01:52:55,680
Speaker 15: It was someone not being thrilled with their touches, it

2111
01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:59,120
Speaker 15: was somebody flowing coverages, it was somebody not paying attention.

2112
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:01,640
Speaker 15: They were too concerned with something else, whatever it may be.

2113
01:53:01,960 --> 01:53:03,600
Speaker 15: And I would also venture that they just went on

2114
01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:05,920
Speaker 15: a road a two game road trip that you know,

2115
01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:08,800
Speaker 15: it's possible something could have happened there that you know,

2116
01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:10,840
Speaker 15: now is the time to get that out after they

2117
01:53:10,920 --> 01:53:12,720
Speaker 15: played a game at home and had you know, more

2118
01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:15,320
Speaker 15: of their media present, and so you know they've they've

2119
01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:16,680
Speaker 15: lost ten in a row, like there's a lot of

2120
01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:20,920
Speaker 15: frustrating things going on. You just wonder what specifically it is.

2121
01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:24,040
Speaker 15: Like I rewatched the whole game. I didn't notice I mean,

2122
01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:26,360
Speaker 15: I didn't notice any one thing that I thought, Wow,

2123
01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:29,400
Speaker 15: that person is obviously complaining and rubbing wrong on his teammates.

2124
01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 15: I saw stuff that they've done wrong in lots of

2125
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:33,799
Speaker 15: other games. So I don't know that there's anything specific

2126
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:35,120
Speaker 15: that happened in this game. Maybe it was just a

2127
01:53:35,200 --> 01:53:38,080
Speaker 15: culmination of it, but it's obviously noteworthy that it happens

2128
01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:39,840
Speaker 15: in a game where they changed their lineup to start

2129
01:53:39,880 --> 01:53:41,639
Speaker 15: the second half. Jay Huff goes to the bench, Johnny

2130
01:53:41,680 --> 01:53:43,200
Speaker 15: Purvey goes to the bench. I'm not saying it was

2131
01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:45,839
Speaker 15: one of those guys. I'm just saying, with so many changes,

2132
01:53:46,360 --> 01:53:49,360
Speaker 15: with something like that called out, you really wonder what happened,

2133
01:53:49,400 --> 01:53:50,720
Speaker 15: what kind of effect it had on the team. And

2134
01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:53,400
Speaker 15: their offense did die too, Like their defense was way better,

2135
01:53:53,479 --> 01:53:55,800
Speaker 15: but they scored fifteen points in the fourth quarter in

2136
01:53:55,880 --> 01:53:57,519
Speaker 15: a loss. So they still have to figure out what

2137
01:53:57,640 --> 01:54:00,920
Speaker 15: this is. But you know, after Siakam's com a week

2138
01:54:01,040 --> 01:54:03,760
Speaker 15: or whatever ago, about you know, wondering what guys are

2139
01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:06,519
Speaker 15: you know, focused on, and now this like this is

2140
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:08,320
Speaker 15: the stuff you hear about in a ten game losing streak.

2141
01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:10,640
Speaker 15: They've got to get the right attitude going because this

2142
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:13,400
Speaker 15: does them no good. Right. Losing is obviously fine this

2143
01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:15,360
Speaker 15: year they're in a position and they're almost ctainly not

2144
01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:17,640
Speaker 15: going to make the playoffs. But you get nothing from this.

2145
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:20,120
Speaker 15: If you get no development, you just lose every game pathetically,

2146
01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:22,400
Speaker 15: and then everybody's really upset. So they got to figure something.

2147
01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:23,479
Speaker 2: Out, Tony.

2148
01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:26,240
Speaker 13: If you had to Tony East, my guess job asse

2149
01:54:26,280 --> 01:54:30,599
Speaker 13: peel and poor guest line. If you had to pick

2150
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:35,680
Speaker 13: up the three remaining teams other than Indiana, and I'm

2151
01:54:35,720 --> 01:54:41,360
Speaker 13: now talking college football rank for me, Tony East's power

2152
01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:46,400
Speaker 13: ranking of the team that you would most want Indiana

2153
01:54:46,640 --> 01:54:48,440
Speaker 13: if they if they like, we're going to throw them

2154
01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:50,720
Speaker 13: all in a blender here right in Indiana. So it

2155
01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:53,800
Speaker 13: was random the team that you would most fear left

2156
01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:57,680
Speaker 13: for Indiana, the second least, and then the third. So

2157
01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:02,640
Speaker 13: I guess you'd go with wrongest potential opponent one, middle

2158
01:55:02,720 --> 01:55:04,760
Speaker 13: pack two, and the one you would find the weakest

2159
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Speaker 13: opponent three.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I think Oregon's probably the strongest left right. They

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01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:13,440
Speaker 15: have a good coach, they have a good quarterback. I

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01:55:13,560 --> 01:55:16,600
Speaker 15: you beat them in Eugene. Obviously that was a great performance.

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01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:18,560
Speaker 15: And if I didn't throw a pick six in that game,

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01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:21,520
Speaker 15: they would have looked like they'd womped them. Right, But

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Speaker 15: now they're tough, they're good. I think I liked Fernando

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01:55:25,560 --> 01:55:27,960
Speaker 15: being media prepped and ready when they asked them about

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01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:30,560
Speaker 15: Oregon on the field postgame at the Rose Bowl, and

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Speaker 15: he would like, yeah, it's tough to be the team

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01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 15: twice band Landag how.

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Speaker 13: About the fact, by the way, Tony, how about the

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01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:40,640
Speaker 13: fact that he was unaware he was unaware that Oregon

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01:55:40,720 --> 01:55:44,120
Speaker 13: had won, which shows you the focus that Indiana had

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01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:46,920
Speaker 13: in the pregame of the Rose Bowl to not know

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01:55:47,080 --> 01:55:48,440
Speaker 13: what was taking place in that game.

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Speaker 15: But you know how I mean, You've seen a million

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01:55:51,200 --> 01:55:53,360
Speaker 15: athletes into that question our hardest, and I'd be like, yeah,

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01:55:53,360 --> 01:55:55,440
Speaker 15: with you the once we feel confident, like, oh, I know,

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01:55:55,640 --> 01:55:58,400
Speaker 15: so easy. It's so easy to say that, especially if

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Speaker 15: you do feel confident, but email that Oregon is good.

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01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:04,880
Speaker 15: You know, I keep thinking, like man Ole miss our coaching.

2181
01:56:05,080 --> 01:56:07,560
Speaker 15: This is like Hackne and I just read a report

2182
01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:09,040
Speaker 15: in the Yahood this morning like that the rest of

2183
01:56:09,080 --> 01:56:10,760
Speaker 15: their staff could be gone for this next game, So

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01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:13,080
Speaker 15: surely they'll fall apart and be the easiest one. And

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01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:15,520
Speaker 15: then they look awesome against Georgia and this quarterback who

2186
01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:17,720
Speaker 15: was in D two somehow, I'd never heard of this kid.

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01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:19,760
Speaker 15: I don't watch it ton of college football, admittedly was

2188
01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:21,920
Speaker 15: like amazing, but they looked really good, So I don't

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01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:24,400
Speaker 15: know how to feel about that. Miami's defensive line was

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01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:27,240
Speaker 15: awesome against Ohio States. So they all present kind of

2191
01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:29,920
Speaker 15: different challenges. I think Oregon is the best team left

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01:56:29,960 --> 01:56:33,680
Speaker 15: beside U. I'll probably say Miami second, Ole Miss third,

2193
01:56:33,760 --> 01:56:35,880
Speaker 15: but those two are both kind of interchangeably close to me.

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01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:38,320
Speaker 13: About how about Dick vital sitting the thing that was

2195
01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:41,800
Speaker 13: like watching this just further enhances that Notre Dame would

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01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:43,120
Speaker 13: have beaten any of these teams.

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Speaker 15: I do it, honest man, Like I don't. Again, I

2198
01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:49,200
Speaker 15: don't really watch, BESIDEU, any college football, but I was

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01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:50,960
Speaker 15: at a Christmas event that had Texas A and m

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01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:54,000
Speaker 15: Miami on. I was like, oh my god, it's like,

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01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:56,200
Speaker 15: can we just put Notre Dame min now it's dead.

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01:56:56,280 --> 01:56:57,440
Speaker 15: It's like this is horrible.

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01:56:57,800 --> 01:57:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. But Miami, though, I mean, has more than vindicated

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01:57:01,320 --> 01:57:02,240
Speaker 2: themselves now right.

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01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:06,080
Speaker 15: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I mean that they cross, They're great.

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Speaker 2: It was the greatest thing ever, right, I mean, is

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01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:11,080
Speaker 2: is there anything? But I went back. I had so

2208
01:57:11,200 --> 01:57:12,840
Speaker 2: much fun. I was such a fifth grader.

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Speaker 13: I went back when I had sent a tweet probably

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01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:18,960
Speaker 13: two months ago that just said, and I don't know

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01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:21,240
Speaker 13: it was win Mendoza was mentioned, as it was after

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01:57:21,280 --> 01:57:25,000
Speaker 13: the Penn State game when Gus Johnson, you know, hyperventilated

2213
01:57:25,040 --> 01:57:27,280
Speaker 13: and said that give him the heisman now, and all

2214
01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:29,800
Speaker 13: these Ohio State fans were going on and on about Indiana,

2215
01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:32,320
Speaker 13: and I sent a postage just simply said I never

2216
01:57:32,360 --> 01:57:34,600
Speaker 13: thought I'd see the day where Ohio State fans like

2217
01:57:34,840 --> 01:57:38,240
Speaker 13: are insecure about Indiana, and the number of replies of

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01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:40,160
Speaker 13: Ohio State fans, dude, we're not even.

2219
01:57:40,040 --> 01:57:41,840
Speaker 2: Worried about it. We're just gonna win the Natty. You know.

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01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:44,120
Speaker 13: No No Da showed me when you went. And it's

2221
01:57:44,480 --> 01:57:46,640
Speaker 13: to know that Ohio State lost their last two games.

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01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:49,920
Speaker 13: They have more NFL talent than probably the other eleven

2223
01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:53,440
Speaker 13: teams combined, and yet Grecian Formula went out there with

2224
01:57:53,600 --> 01:57:56,640
Speaker 13: Rosie Cheeks and just completely wet himself. I love everything

2225
01:57:56,680 --> 01:57:58,960
Speaker 13: about it here, you know, Duke and I you.

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01:57:59,040 --> 01:58:02,640
Speaker 15: Football and winning the games, Alabama the basketball school. Now, Jake,

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01:58:02,720 --> 01:58:03,560
Speaker 15: it's a new time and.

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01:58:03,640 --> 01:58:07,440
Speaker 13: Then it is it is, man, it is a new frontier,

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01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:10,760
Speaker 13: no question, Tony appreciate it. See you tonight, Pacers and

2230
01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:13,880
Speaker 13: spurs over at Gambridge Field House. Thanks for having me,

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01:58:14,080 --> 01:58:16,360
Speaker 13: Tony East joining me Jaba House, peeling poor guest line.

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01:58:16,360 --> 01:58:18,560
Speaker 13: All right, the morning guys were at it this morning

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01:58:19,040 --> 01:58:20,640
Speaker 13: to start off the new year. Eddie, I just saw

2234
01:58:20,680 --> 01:58:22,480
Speaker 13: you clapping your hands in there. Are you doing cheers?

2235
01:58:23,120 --> 01:58:24,240
Speaker 13: No getting fired up?

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01:58:24,640 --> 01:58:24,680
Speaker 15: No?

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01:58:25,120 --> 01:58:28,880
Speaker 2: You doing the whoo hoosiers? Nope, Eddie.

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01:58:29,080 --> 01:58:30,880
Speaker 13: I looked up and Eddie was like popping himself up.

2239
01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:33,080
Speaker 13: He's doing the YMCA in there in his little booth.

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Speaker 13: You know, people don't know this, but we're separated now

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01:58:35,680 --> 01:58:37,320
Speaker 13: by a different room. We could see each other through

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01:58:37,320 --> 01:58:39,080
Speaker 13: a glass window, but we got to talk through headsets.

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01:58:39,400 --> 01:58:40,640
Speaker 13: Every once in a while, I screw up and I

2244
01:58:40,720 --> 01:58:42,920
Speaker 13: hit the on air button when I'm trying to talk

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01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:43,080
Speaker 13: to you.

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01:58:43,240 --> 01:58:44,640
Speaker 2: Yep, does that go over the air that way?

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01:58:45,320 --> 01:58:47,600
Speaker 14: Well, Jake, you turn your mic on that Typically what

2248
01:58:47,880 --> 01:58:50,280
Speaker 14: happens is when you talk him to a hot mic

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01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:52,440
Speaker 14: that's on, it goes over the air.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know if you knew that or not.

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01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:57,000
Speaker 13: Well, I yes, but it's your job to work as

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01:58:57,040 --> 01:58:58,720
Speaker 13: the last line of defense to make sure that that's

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01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:00,640
Speaker 13: during the commercial break, that that might that on right.

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01:59:01,120 --> 01:59:03,680
Speaker 14: Well, I always checked to make sure it's off, but

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Speaker 14: sometimes you intantly turn it back on.

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Speaker 13: It's a new system over here, so well, you know,

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01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:12,520
Speaker 13: it's it's funny force of habit because the way the

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01:59:12,600 --> 01:59:17,360
Speaker 13: buttons are lined up muscle memory right of turning off

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01:59:17,440 --> 01:59:19,920
Speaker 13: the microphone. But the buttons are different than at our

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01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:22,520
Speaker 13: old place in terms of the ordering of it. So

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01:59:22,560 --> 01:59:23,920
Speaker 13: it's going to take another week or so for the

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01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:27,880
Speaker 13: muscle memory to reset itself. But when we reset each

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Speaker 13: day on this radio station, it is the Fan Morning

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01:59:30,680 --> 01:59:33,000
Speaker 13: Show with Kevin Bow and jeff Rickord and the third

2265
01:59:33,080 --> 01:59:35,760
Speaker 13: member of that show, James Boyd, who will talk a

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01:59:35,760 --> 01:59:37,840
Speaker 13: little colts with and find out what's going to happen

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01:59:38,160 --> 01:59:41,080
Speaker 13: in Houston that might look different. We'll talk about it

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01:59:41,200 --> 01:59:44,960
Speaker 13: next What when's the last time you heard this song

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01:59:45,080 --> 01:59:49,320
Speaker 13: in a bar? The best advice I was ever given

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01:59:51,560 --> 01:59:55,919
Speaker 13: was Ed Sorenson said to me one time, kind of randomly.

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01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:01,560
Speaker 13: He just said, buddy, whatever you do, make sure that

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02:00:01,600 --> 02:00:05,520
Speaker 13: you're never the oldest person in the bar always tried

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02:00:05,600 --> 02:00:13,080
Speaker 13: to adhere to that. But Eddie, when's the last time

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02:00:13,120 --> 02:00:13,960
Speaker 13: you closed out a bar?

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Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever done it really maybe in the.

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Speaker 13: Day, back in my back in the day, true story,

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02:00:22,600 --> 02:00:28,000
Speaker 13: and only those of my age range. But you know,

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02:00:28,040 --> 02:00:29,960
Speaker 13: I don't know now that like when people say they're

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02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:32,520
Speaker 13: going out, like what's the what's the like I'm going

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02:00:32,600 --> 02:00:34,920
Speaker 13: out district of Indianapolis. I mean in the mid nineties

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02:00:34,960 --> 02:00:38,280
Speaker 13: into the mid two thousands it was Broaderpool, but now

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02:00:38,680 --> 02:00:41,200
Speaker 13: like whenever is it massa Ave or is it Fountain Square? Yeah,

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02:00:41,200 --> 02:00:44,160
Speaker 13: I'm not sure, but those bars in Broaderpool would close

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Speaker 13: at three forty.

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Speaker 14: Five because I don't go out. When I go out,

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02:00:46,880 --> 02:00:49,520
Speaker 14: I don't go downtown. I go to like smaller place, right.

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Speaker 2: I think, And I think that's more and more common now, right.

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Speaker 14: Like my spot is not now that people are just

2289
02:00:54,720 --> 02:00:57,040
Speaker 14: going to go, you know, invading that place, and good

2290
02:00:57,080 --> 02:00:58,080
Speaker 14: for them, they could use the business.

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02:00:58,120 --> 02:00:59,040
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

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02:01:00,400 --> 02:01:02,360
Speaker 14: In Greenwood, I love that spot.

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02:01:02,520 --> 02:01:04,040
Speaker 2: Shallows, yes, okay?

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02:01:05,640 --> 02:01:07,920
Speaker 13: And is it do they have like a swimming pool

2295
02:01:08,080 --> 02:01:12,400
Speaker 13: or is it are they describing the the the people

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02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:13,000
Speaker 13: that are in there?

2297
02:01:13,160 --> 02:01:14,960
Speaker 2: Like where does shallows come from Do.

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Speaker 14: You know the owner's last name I believe was Shallow.

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Speaker 2: Shallow, Yeah, that would make sense.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, yeah, joining us now in the Peelum, the

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Speaker 13: Peel and Port, the Java House, Peel and Port guest line,

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Speaker 13: and I'm sure thrilled to be doing so.

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Speaker 2: Based on that intro.

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Speaker 13: You hear him in the morning along with jeff Rickord

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Speaker 13: and Kevin Bowen on the Fan Morning show, James Boyd

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02:01:31,000 --> 02:01:33,120
Speaker 13: joining us on the show James, Happy New Year.

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Speaker 2: Than I want to begin with this.

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Speaker 13: For the Colts coming up on Sunday, Riley Leonard is

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02:01:40,360 --> 02:01:43,800
Speaker 13: in at the quarterback spot. We now know that Philip

2310
02:01:43,920 --> 02:01:47,440
Speaker 13: Rivers will be essentially the emergency quarterback, which, let's be real,

2311
02:01:47,880 --> 02:01:52,640
Speaker 13: his entire existence with the Colts this year was emergency quarterback.

2312
02:01:52,720 --> 02:01:57,520
Speaker 13: But are there other positions where we may see some

2313
02:01:57,840 --> 02:02:00,560
Speaker 13: understudies getting reps intensively?

2314
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Speaker 2: Because why not?

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02:02:03,240 --> 02:02:03,440
Speaker 15: Yeah?

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02:02:03,480 --> 02:02:06,520
Speaker 18: I think there could be the case. I think obviously

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02:02:06,560 --> 02:02:08,120
Speaker 18: you already got some one of the studies out there

2318
02:02:08,120 --> 02:02:11,160
Speaker 18: at cornerback because you got injuries. Do we see someone

2319
02:02:11,240 --> 02:02:13,360
Speaker 18: like DJ Gadens get in at running back? He hasn't

2320
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Speaker 18: played and I feel like a few weeks is that

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02:02:16,280 --> 02:02:18,480
Speaker 18: worth it? At this point to keep JP sort of

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Speaker 18: healthy and he's a finale. So those are some of

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Speaker 18: this as I'm looking at it. And then again, because

2324
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Speaker 18: the injury, you're already playing some young guys up front,

2325
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Speaker 18: with Jalen Travis starting at right.

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Speaker 19: Tackles the.

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Speaker 13: James when you look at this season, and obviously it

2328
02:02:33,920 --> 02:02:37,400
Speaker 13: goes without saying that there are you know, colossal disappointment

2329
02:02:37,480 --> 02:02:40,000
Speaker 13: throughout and I get that the injury comes into play

2330
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Speaker 13: with Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 2: You know, we've gone over all of this. So let

2332
02:02:44,360 --> 02:02:45,800
Speaker 2: me ask you a two part question.

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02:02:47,400 --> 02:02:51,280
Speaker 13: The first is if, and we're going to strictly speak

2334
02:02:51,280 --> 02:02:54,800
Speaker 13: in the hypothetical, if the Cults are to make a

2335
02:02:54,960 --> 02:02:58,440
Speaker 13: change in their direction, be it the general manager or

2336
02:02:58,480 --> 02:03:00,840
Speaker 13: the head coach, we will know that.

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Speaker 2: How long after the completion of Sunday's game.

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Speaker 18: That's a great question. I would say within twenty four hours.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 18: It it's a little bit different because it's a road game,

2341
02:03:15,080 --> 02:03:17,680
Speaker 18: but yeah, it is you making that announcement very soon.

2342
02:03:17,960 --> 02:03:18,240
Speaker 2: Okay.

2343
02:03:18,520 --> 02:03:21,960
Speaker 13: The second question is do you, James Boyd, believe that

2344
02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:28,160
Speaker 13: announcement will be heard, meaning what do you believe they

2345
02:03:28,160 --> 02:03:30,120
Speaker 13: will make a change at either of those two spots.

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02:03:31,080 --> 02:03:37,480
Speaker 18: Oh, I don't think that that will happen, but I

2347
02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:40,760
Speaker 18: think it probably should happen when it comes to Chris Ballard.

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02:03:41,160 --> 02:03:43,280
Speaker 18: I can see why they would probably want to stick

2349
02:03:43,360 --> 02:03:46,160
Speaker 18: with this because of the injuries that plagued the team

2350
02:03:46,240 --> 02:03:49,720
Speaker 18: this year, But personally, I just think that it's stale

2351
02:03:49,880 --> 02:03:53,080
Speaker 18: when it comes to Chris Ballard. And at some point

2352
02:03:53,440 --> 02:03:58,280
Speaker 18: you can't look at year nine as a standalone season

2353
02:03:58,400 --> 02:04:00,880
Speaker 18: and forget about everything that this year as well?

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Speaker 2: Do you believe?

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02:04:03,400 --> 02:04:05,760
Speaker 13: Again a hypothetical, And I only say it because it

2356
02:04:05,800 --> 02:04:10,520
Speaker 13: adds perspective. Okay, if the Colts had had the exact

2357
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Speaker 13: same season, James, Let's say that the Colts that Daniel

2358
02:04:15,000 --> 02:04:18,720
Speaker 13: Jones had never gotten hurt, and let's say they didn't

2359
02:04:18,720 --> 02:04:20,640
Speaker 13: even start eight and two. You know, let's say that

2360
02:04:20,720 --> 02:04:23,880
Speaker 13: they just had a season where they win one, lose one,

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02:04:23,920 --> 02:04:25,640
Speaker 13: win one, lose one, win one, lose one, and they

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Speaker 13: and they finished eight and nine. Would they still maintain

2363
02:04:30,920 --> 02:04:34,720
Speaker 13: the same course? In other words, we can say that

2364
02:04:34,840 --> 02:04:39,600
Speaker 13: the injury is reason why Chris Ballard gets another year,

2365
02:04:40,520 --> 02:04:43,600
Speaker 13: but do we know definitively that he would not have

2366
02:04:43,680 --> 02:04:46,480
Speaker 13: gotten another year anyway, because he has a year left

2367
02:04:46,520 --> 02:04:49,400
Speaker 13: on his contract and because there are other areas right

2368
02:04:49,480 --> 02:04:52,360
Speaker 13: now that Carli Ursa, Gordon and the family have to

2369
02:04:52,400 --> 02:04:52,800
Speaker 13: focus on.

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02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:56,040
Speaker 18: Yeah, we don't know that. I don't make it very clear.

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Speaker 18: I'm not advocating for Chris Ballard to get a tenth

2372
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Speaker 18: of the season. I just think that given the situation

2373
02:05:01,040 --> 02:05:03,520
Speaker 18: they're in where they moored their future and the Salt

2374
02:05:03,600 --> 02:05:05,880
Speaker 18: Garden trade with no first round picks for the next

2375
02:05:05,960 --> 02:05:08,560
Speaker 18: two years, those are moves that you make if you

2376
02:05:08,960 --> 02:05:10,760
Speaker 18: probably think you're going to bring back your GM and

2377
02:05:10,800 --> 02:05:13,480
Speaker 18: your head coach. But yeah, when I look at the

2378
02:05:13,560 --> 02:05:18,800
Speaker 18: totality of everything, it's hard to sit here and try

2379
02:05:18,840 --> 02:05:23,080
Speaker 18: to excuse the collapse at the end and to answer

2380
02:05:23,200 --> 02:05:25,640
Speaker 18: the question me in eight to nine in the way

2381
02:05:25,680 --> 02:05:27,680
Speaker 18: you kind of get there. I do think had it

2382
02:05:27,760 --> 02:05:29,680
Speaker 18: been kind of up and down, then they will be

2383
02:05:29,760 --> 02:05:31,960
Speaker 18: looking at this from a different angle and perhaps it's

2384
02:05:32,040 --> 02:05:34,120
Speaker 18: like blow it all up and get rid of everybody.

2385
02:05:34,560 --> 02:05:36,920
Speaker 18: But I still think there's a part of this team

2386
02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:40,040
Speaker 18: in this regime that convince themselves that, hey, before the

2387
02:05:40,080 --> 02:05:42,320
Speaker 18: injuries kind of bid us, we were one of the

2388
02:05:42,360 --> 02:05:45,120
Speaker 18: best teams in the NFL, And to their credit, they

2389
02:05:45,200 --> 02:05:47,840
Speaker 18: probably are right. I lean towards them being a better

2390
02:05:47,960 --> 02:05:51,320
Speaker 18: team than they were obviously with all the injuries. But man,

2391
02:05:51,400 --> 02:05:53,200
Speaker 18: it's hard for me to sit here and say that

2392
02:05:53,400 --> 02:05:55,839
Speaker 18: I feel strongly about running this all back because ideally,

2393
02:05:56,360 --> 02:05:58,160
Speaker 18: what you're ceiling and I don't know how high it

2394
02:05:58,280 --> 02:06:00,560
Speaker 18: is or how low it is with this with this group,

2395
02:06:00,640 --> 02:06:02,560
Speaker 18: I still think, even with the injuries, you had to

2396
02:06:02,600 --> 02:06:04,240
Speaker 18: find a way to win a game, and you.

2397
02:06:04,240 --> 02:06:05,440
Speaker 15: Haven't done that, James.

2398
02:06:05,560 --> 02:06:10,840
Speaker 13: If they were to replace Chris Ballard, the fact of

2399
02:06:11,600 --> 02:06:14,800
Speaker 13: no first round pick for the next two years, the

2400
02:06:14,960 --> 02:06:19,880
Speaker 13: fact of a change in ownership of which there is

2401
02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:24,320
Speaker 13: still non familiarity league wide in terms of how and

2402
02:06:24,640 --> 02:06:26,880
Speaker 13: that's not an indictment on Carly Orsa Gordon at all.

2403
02:06:27,000 --> 02:06:29,400
Speaker 13: The reality is simply that we don't really know what

2404
02:06:29,520 --> 02:06:33,440
Speaker 13: her ownership style is going to be, okay, And the

2405
02:06:33,560 --> 02:06:35,880
Speaker 13: fact that you could look at it and say, in

2406
02:06:36,000 --> 02:06:40,400
Speaker 13: her first year she immediately made a seismic move. Is

2407
02:06:40,480 --> 02:06:45,200
Speaker 13: it the possibility that somebody who is a potential candidate

2408
02:06:45,280 --> 02:06:48,440
Speaker 13: to fill that job would actually have pause in coming

2409
02:06:48,480 --> 02:06:50,720
Speaker 13: to Indianapolis for the reasons I just laid out.

2410
02:06:52,080 --> 02:06:55,280
Speaker 18: I think somewhere, but I think that's been overstated. There's

2411
02:06:55,360 --> 02:06:57,680
Speaker 18: only thirty two of these job in the NFL really

2412
02:06:57,800 --> 02:06:59,760
Speaker 18: about thirty one if he counted Jerry Jones, because he's

2413
02:06:59,760 --> 02:07:02,680
Speaker 18: also GM for the Cowboys, so they should have plenty

2414
02:07:02,720 --> 02:07:05,320
Speaker 18: of suitors if they make a change at the GM position.

2415
02:07:05,520 --> 02:07:09,000
Speaker 18: But even when I look at all the scenarios, it's

2416
02:07:09,040 --> 02:07:11,480
Speaker 18: hard for me to envision a GM coming in and

2417
02:07:11,560 --> 02:07:13,800
Speaker 18: sitting down and saying this is my plan for the

2418
02:07:13,840 --> 02:07:17,320
Speaker 18: future without it being a very I think, three to

2419
02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:19,480
Speaker 18: five year plan. I get that all gams tried to

2420
02:07:19,520 --> 02:07:22,000
Speaker 18: come in with that, but at the same time, there

2421
02:07:22,160 --> 02:07:24,200
Speaker 18: is no pathway if you blow this up and get

2422
02:07:24,280 --> 02:07:26,400
Speaker 18: rid of the GM, and I opinion to say you're

2423
02:07:26,440 --> 02:07:28,800
Speaker 18: going to be immediately in contention next year. I just

2424
02:07:28,840 --> 02:07:31,400
Speaker 18: don't think that's a very real way of look at this,

2425
02:07:31,560 --> 02:07:35,520
Speaker 18: because at the very least, if you keep give her

2426
02:07:35,560 --> 02:07:39,240
Speaker 18: to the GM, keep staying psiking, you're banking on Dale

2427
02:07:39,360 --> 02:07:41,480
Speaker 18: Jones coming off of Achilles here being your best and

2428
02:07:41,560 --> 02:07:43,760
Speaker 18: the most important player, and that to me is not

2429
02:07:43,800 --> 02:07:46,080
Speaker 18: a gamble. That's a wise one.

2430
02:07:47,080 --> 02:07:48,800
Speaker 2: James. Before we let you go, I'm going to give

2431
02:07:48,800 --> 02:07:49,560
Speaker 2: you a couple of names.

2432
02:07:49,600 --> 02:07:51,280
Speaker 13: Would I give you the name I want you to

2433
02:07:51,360 --> 02:07:55,680
Speaker 13: tell me one to ten, ten being absolutely certain one

2434
02:07:55,800 --> 02:08:02,040
Speaker 13: being totally not posit or you know, unlike Okay, I'm

2435
02:08:02,080 --> 02:08:03,520
Speaker 13: gonna give you a player. I want you to tell

2436
02:08:03,560 --> 02:08:05,720
Speaker 13: me one to ten, ten being the most certain that

2437
02:08:05,800 --> 02:08:09,920
Speaker 13: they will be when I name a person as to

2438
02:08:10,000 --> 02:08:12,800
Speaker 13: whether or not they will be a member of the

2439
02:08:12,840 --> 02:08:16,400
Speaker 13: Colts organization beyond this Sunday in terms of moving into

2440
02:08:16,480 --> 02:08:17,440
Speaker 13: next year, you ready.

2441
02:08:18,520 --> 02:08:20,000
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson.

2442
02:08:22,360 --> 02:08:22,600
Speaker 17: Four.

2443
02:08:24,400 --> 02:08:25,600
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones.

2444
02:08:28,000 --> 02:08:30,480
Speaker 18: Depends on if the coaches in GM are brought bag,

2445
02:08:30,560 --> 02:08:31,840
Speaker 18: but I'll go eight.

2446
02:08:33,000 --> 02:08:41,920
Speaker 17: Alec Pierce, I'm na go I'm gonna go six on that,

2447
02:08:42,040 --> 02:08:45,080
Speaker 17: a little bit lower because you'll have plenty of suitors

2448
02:08:45,360 --> 02:08:46,800
Speaker 17: if he a free agency Nigua.

2449
02:08:46,640 --> 02:08:47,120
Speaker 18: Tag him no.

2450
02:08:47,960 --> 02:08:52,080
Speaker 2: DeForest Buckner, Oh.

2451
02:08:52,040 --> 02:08:55,600
Speaker 18: That's a good question. I'll cop out that I haven't

2452
02:08:55,640 --> 02:08:57,000
Speaker 18: ask though. For me, I'm gonna go five.

2453
02:08:57,280 --> 02:08:57,560
Speaker 15: Money.

2454
02:08:57,680 --> 02:08:59,640
Speaker 18: You've got big money on the country next year, come

2455
02:08:59,720 --> 02:09:02,680
Speaker 18: off surgery. I'm not so sure about Busler being a

2456
02:09:02,760 --> 02:09:03,320
Speaker 18: definite yet.

2457
02:09:04,080 --> 02:09:08,280
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor, I'll go seven on that.

2458
02:09:08,360 --> 02:09:09,040
Speaker 18: I think he'll be back.

2459
02:09:09,960 --> 02:09:11,000
Speaker 2: Chris Ballard.

2460
02:09:12,960 --> 02:09:20,320
Speaker 18: Ooh, I'll go six. I think that it's more likely

2461
02:09:20,400 --> 02:09:21,240
Speaker 18: than not that he's back.

2462
02:09:21,600 --> 02:09:26,680
Speaker 2: Shane Steichen seven.

2463
02:09:26,920 --> 02:09:28,800
Speaker 18: Put him a little bit higher than I think he's

2464
02:09:29,400 --> 02:09:31,480
Speaker 18: has a better case to be bad. But yeah, and

2465
02:09:31,520 --> 02:09:33,920
Speaker 18: again I'm not advocating for Chris Ballen to be brought back,

2466
02:09:34,000 --> 02:09:36,720
Speaker 18: but I do think it's more likely than not personally.

2467
02:09:36,440 --> 02:09:42,120
Speaker 2: Okay, last one, lou and Aroumo, I know seven.

2468
02:09:42,160 --> 02:09:44,040
Speaker 18: I think that it's pretty expected that he'd be back

2469
02:09:44,080 --> 02:09:45,120
Speaker 18: at this Virginia's back.

2470
02:09:45,360 --> 02:09:47,360
Speaker 2: Unless he gets a job, Unless he gets a head

2471
02:09:47,400 --> 02:09:50,160
Speaker 2: coaching job, right, Yeah, But I also.

2472
02:09:50,000 --> 02:09:52,080
Speaker 18: Don't think that he can really sell this defense or

2473
02:09:52,320 --> 02:09:56,040
Speaker 18: what he's done this season one year here to go

2474
02:09:56,160 --> 02:09:58,240
Speaker 18: get a head coaching job at this point, especially a

2475
02:09:58,320 --> 02:10:00,120
Speaker 18: job at the Giants. I just don't see that at

2476
02:10:00,720 --> 02:10:02,200
Speaker 18: being realistic.

2477
02:10:03,520 --> 02:10:05,360
Speaker 13: By the way, several people would like to know whether

2478
02:10:05,480 --> 02:10:07,040
Speaker 13: or not it is in the bottom of the ocean

2479
02:10:07,200 --> 02:10:09,480
Speaker 13: or through your latest purchase from the MyPillow guy that

2480
02:10:09,520 --> 02:10:10,520
Speaker 13: you're talking on the phone.

2481
02:10:13,600 --> 02:10:16,840
Speaker 18: It is neither, I asked any of us. Selling is fun,

2482
02:10:16,880 --> 02:10:18,920
Speaker 18: and I'm working with old air pods, so next time

2483
02:10:18,960 --> 02:10:20,839
Speaker 18: I'll talk to you on the old traditional phone.

2484
02:10:22,360 --> 02:10:23,480
Speaker 2: The old air pods.

2485
02:10:23,640 --> 02:10:24,440
Speaker 14: It sounds fine to me.

2486
02:10:25,200 --> 02:10:29,240
Speaker 13: It sounds a little end of the ten can to me,

2487
02:10:29,360 --> 02:10:31,960
Speaker 13: but that's okay. But several people pointed out, so I

2488
02:10:32,040 --> 02:10:34,520
Speaker 13: figured i'd asked, all right, James, New York's resolution for you?

2489
02:10:34,600 --> 02:10:35,120
Speaker 2: Anything big?

2490
02:10:36,840 --> 02:10:39,000
Speaker 18: No, not really, stay alive. That's always a good one.

2491
02:10:39,080 --> 02:10:39,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one.

2492
02:10:39,800 --> 02:10:40,160
Speaker 5: All right.

2493
02:10:40,200 --> 02:10:43,560
Speaker 13: Well, enjoy Houston. If you get bored during the game,

2494
02:10:43,640 --> 02:10:45,640
Speaker 13: walk across the street. I can give you the way

2495
02:10:45,720 --> 02:10:48,160
Speaker 13: to get into the Astrodome, which I broke into several

2496
02:10:48,240 --> 02:10:50,839
Speaker 13: years ago. Or if you walk out of NRG Stadium,

2497
02:10:50,880 --> 02:10:52,440
Speaker 13: take a left you can go into Fiesta, which is

2498
02:10:52,480 --> 02:10:53,320
Speaker 13: a huge grocery store.

2499
02:10:53,320 --> 02:10:54,800
Speaker 2: I've never been to, but it looks like a party.

2500
02:10:55,160 --> 02:10:56,160
Speaker 2: So either way, I enjoy it.

2501
02:10:56,160 --> 02:10:58,280
Speaker 18: All right, all right, brother, thank you?

2502
02:10:58,360 --> 02:11:00,200
Speaker 13: All right, James boy joining us on the job house

2503
02:11:00,240 --> 02:11:02,360
Speaker 13: Peel and poor guests. Line will come back. We'll let

2504
02:11:02,400 --> 02:11:04,000
Speaker 13: you know what we got going on over the weekend.

2505
02:11:04,080 --> 02:11:06,160
Speaker 13: Get you set for Monday. And it is the crossover

2506
02:11:06,240 --> 02:11:07,880
Speaker 13: with JMV brought to you by the good guys at

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Speaker 13: Love Heating and Air Love Dash HVAC dot com is

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Speaker 13: forty one.

2510
02:11:14,000 --> 02:11:15,080
Speaker 2: We'll catch up with John next.

2511
02:11:17,400 --> 02:11:20,200
Speaker 13: I am very excited for one week from yesterday, that

2512
02:11:20,240 --> 02:11:23,680
Speaker 13: would be the eighth of January, to be out of

2513
02:11:23,720 --> 02:11:27,760
Speaker 13: that Axels garage with our friends from Zinc Distributing and

2514
02:11:27,880 --> 02:11:30,400
Speaker 13: Mick Ultra part of our Mini Hoops Challenge your chance

2515
02:11:30,520 --> 02:11:33,880
Speaker 13: to win tickets to go see the Blue and Gold

2516
02:11:34,000 --> 02:11:37,240
Speaker 13: taking on Milwaukee in Milwaukee against the Bucks again.

2517
02:11:37,320 --> 02:11:38,320
Speaker 2: That is going to be Thursday.

2518
02:11:38,400 --> 02:11:39,960
Speaker 13: You'll hear me talking a lot about it, and if

2519
02:11:40,000 --> 02:11:45,560
Speaker 13: nothing else aside from the Mini Hoops Challenge aspect of

2520
02:11:45,640 --> 02:11:47,080
Speaker 13: it and the fund that is involved there, and the

2521
02:11:47,160 --> 02:11:49,320
Speaker 13: fact that it's great to be over at the garage.

2522
02:11:49,800 --> 02:11:51,800
Speaker 13: Just to come out and meet the guys and gals

2523
02:11:51,840 --> 02:11:54,960
Speaker 13: from Zinc is awesome because they are awesome folks and

2524
02:11:55,400 --> 02:11:58,040
Speaker 13: it is always good and fun to hang out with them,

2525
02:11:58,120 --> 02:12:02,760
Speaker 13: spend time with them and promote their events and their beverages.

2526
02:12:02,840 --> 02:12:04,520
Speaker 2: But speaking of wait, wait.

2527
02:12:04,360 --> 02:12:06,120
Speaker 14: Wait, when did Axel Rose get a garagin?

2528
02:12:06,320 --> 02:12:08,879
Speaker 2: I know, I know that you got to wear bandana

2529
02:12:08,920 --> 02:12:10,920
Speaker 2: when you go in it's awesome or a rose. You

2530
02:12:10,960 --> 02:12:12,560
Speaker 2: gotta go in with roses on that's right.

2531
02:12:13,000 --> 02:12:15,760
Speaker 13: Well, I mean bring back some of the roses from

2532
02:12:15,760 --> 02:12:18,320
Speaker 13: the ninety thousand that were there yesterday in Pasadena to

2533
02:12:18,360 --> 02:12:22,160
Speaker 13: watch Indiana jmb is at Ralston speaking of mass ab

2534
02:12:22,360 --> 02:12:24,880
Speaker 13: in that vicinity, it is the crossover brought to you

2535
02:12:25,000 --> 02:12:27,960
Speaker 13: by the good guys at Love Heating and Air, John,

2536
02:12:28,040 --> 02:12:30,160
Speaker 13: I know you love being out and about Ralston's right there,

2537
02:12:30,240 --> 02:12:30,840
Speaker 13: high on the list.

2538
02:12:31,840 --> 02:12:35,240
Speaker 20: I love Ralston's draft house. We're on mass ab my

2539
02:12:35,360 --> 02:12:38,720
Speaker 20: man Daniel Jake. In fact, he just took ownership of

2540
02:12:38,760 --> 02:12:41,800
Speaker 20: this place, going back more I think a year in November.

2541
02:12:41,840 --> 02:12:43,280
Speaker 20: But he's going to join us a little bit later

2542
02:12:43,320 --> 02:12:46,320
Speaker 20: on to explain. Very easy to get to and what

2543
02:12:46,440 --> 02:12:49,000
Speaker 20: a great day to come together. We were talking about

2544
02:12:49,040 --> 02:12:51,480
Speaker 20: this a little bit earlier. So many IU fans in

2545
02:12:51,600 --> 02:12:54,320
Speaker 20: here to watch that game the Rose Bowl last night

2546
02:12:54,400 --> 02:12:57,720
Speaker 20: that are very happy today, Hey Jake, Honestly, is it

2547
02:12:57,880 --> 02:13:00,960
Speaker 20: great to see a group of people be able to

2548
02:13:02,040 --> 02:13:05,720
Speaker 20: really nationally shove it up the rear ends of so

2549
02:13:06,000 --> 02:13:10,200
Speaker 20: many buttholes. Seriously, just so many horses asses like they've

2550
02:13:10,240 --> 02:13:12,640
Speaker 20: been able to do. Whether we're talking about Craig Carton

2551
02:13:13,000 --> 02:13:16,320
Speaker 20: or Paul Finebaum or Cam Newton. Is it a good

2552
02:13:16,400 --> 02:13:18,120
Speaker 20: feeling for all you fans to be able to do that?

2553
02:13:18,440 --> 02:13:23,240
Speaker 13: Even Don Fisher got Don Fisher got on the action, right, Paul,

2554
02:13:23,320 --> 02:13:26,480
Speaker 13: find Bob play one with Tom Eddy?

2555
02:13:27,200 --> 02:13:29,200
Speaker 1: What are you thinking now, Paul Fine Bob?

2556
02:13:30,640 --> 02:13:33,920
Speaker 13: How about that? That's awesome? And again I love it.

2557
02:13:34,280 --> 02:13:37,120
Speaker 13: I mean, and this is a veteran group, the Indiana team.

2558
02:13:37,160 --> 02:13:39,000
Speaker 13: I mean, you know, they may not have played together

2559
02:13:39,120 --> 02:13:41,440
Speaker 13: for a long time as Indiana football players, but they

2560
02:13:41,480 --> 02:13:46,080
Speaker 13: have played together other places. But it's masterful scouting by

2561
02:13:46,360 --> 02:13:48,520
Speaker 13: Kurt Signetty, not just in the way guys play, but

2562
02:13:48,680 --> 02:13:52,080
Speaker 13: just the overall montraor the attitude, the selflessness and the

2563
02:13:52,200 --> 02:13:55,800
Speaker 13: focus that they have. It is an unbelievable story, no

2564
02:13:55,960 --> 02:13:56,600
Speaker 13: question about it.

2565
02:13:57,040 --> 02:13:57,280
Speaker 5: John.

2566
02:13:57,400 --> 02:14:00,600
Speaker 13: Sounded like you had because I was driving around New

2567
02:14:00,720 --> 02:14:02,920
Speaker 13: Year's Eve. Man, you had it going on B one

2568
02:14:03,000 --> 02:14:03,400
Speaker 13: oh five.

2569
02:14:04,360 --> 02:14:07,400
Speaker 20: It was after the first two hours where I wanted

2570
02:14:07,480 --> 02:14:11,680
Speaker 20: to leave, to be honest with you, Jake, But once

2571
02:14:11,720 --> 02:14:15,040
Speaker 20: I got into the rhythm and started executing like the

2572
02:14:15,120 --> 02:14:18,080
Speaker 20: IU football team, once I got into that, it was fun.

2573
02:14:18,120 --> 02:14:19,560
Speaker 5: I stayed until about one in the morning.

2574
02:14:19,720 --> 02:14:19,880
Speaker 2: Yep.

2575
02:14:20,480 --> 02:14:22,280
Speaker 5: Kind of the problem is we're gonna makeshift and we'll

2576
02:14:22,280 --> 02:14:23,120
Speaker 5: explain this to everybody.

2577
02:14:23,120 --> 02:14:25,240
Speaker 20: I know you got a run here, but we're we're

2578
02:14:25,320 --> 02:14:29,280
Speaker 20: basically in a broadcast room while the studios get ready

2579
02:14:29,440 --> 02:14:30,760
Speaker 20: for B one oh five point seven.

2580
02:14:31,200 --> 02:14:34,000
Speaker 5: So it was only equipped with two lines. So it

2581
02:14:34,120 --> 02:14:35,520
Speaker 5: was an absolute log.

2582
02:14:35,400 --> 02:14:38,560
Speaker 20: Jam all night, and it was for the first hour

2583
02:14:38,680 --> 02:14:42,360
Speaker 20: to have Jake somewhat night marrish for me. But once

2584
02:14:42,440 --> 02:14:45,160
Speaker 20: we got into a rhythm and started executing, So my

2585
02:14:45,280 --> 02:14:48,560
Speaker 20: first two hours looked like i U's first series two

2586
02:14:48,720 --> 02:14:51,520
Speaker 20: sacks and a three and out. But after that, you know,

2587
02:14:51,560 --> 02:14:53,600
Speaker 20: I kind of felt like AU did last night. We

2588
02:14:53,680 --> 02:14:56,800
Speaker 20: got into the rhythm, into a groove and started to

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Speaker 20: execute a little bit, and yeah, it was fun as hell,

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Speaker 20: and we'll do it again on Saturday.

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Speaker 13: So plenty of conversation, I'm sure about that getting us

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Speaker 13: leading up to the Colts Happy Hour, which takes place

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Speaker 13: today five thirty Colts Texans coming up on Sunday. Pacers

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Speaker 13: and Action tonight at Gambridge Fieldhouse and Ralston's Draft House,

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Speaker 13: where John will be to bring you all the way

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Speaker 13: up to the point of all of it. John, I

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Speaker 13: appreciate to have fun out there, all right, you got

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Speaker 13: a pal All right? JMV Again Ralston's Draft House, brought

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Speaker 13: to you by the Crossover, brought to you by the

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Speaker 13: good guys at Love Heating and Air. All right, we

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Speaker 13: will be back with you. Thank you to Mike Nysalik.

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Speaker 13: Thank you as well to Tony East James Boyd for

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Speaker 13: their time today. Eddie Garrison as well, and hoos yours.

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Speaker 13: I'm not afraid to say yeah, I would tell you.

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Speaker 13: I could say it right Indiana on their way to

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Speaker 13: Oregon and the Peach Bowl. We will talk about that.

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Speaker 13: Plenty of plenty coming up next week. You folks have

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Speaker 13: a wonderful weekend. We'll be back with you at noon

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Speaker 13: on Monday. I thank you for listening to Query and Company.