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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 1: So you've got the conversation about the two year anniversary

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Speaker 1: of October seventh, you got the conversation about the shutdowns.

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Speaker 1: You've got skotis starting their session, a lot of fascinating

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Speaker 1: cases that they're taking. But there was this weird commentary

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Speaker 1: about Ukraine. Are we sending Tomahawks or not, which is

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Speaker 1: really a question of how involved are we Tony Katz,

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Speaker 1: Tony Kats today, Good to be with You find everything

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Speaker 1: at tonykats dot com. I would argue that the President

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Speaker 1: has made it quite clear that our involvement is we

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Speaker 1: want Putin to bring about this piece, we want the

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Speaker 1: killing to stop. Putin isn't interested in listening. So now

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Speaker 1: let's talk some smack about Putin, and let's supply Ukraine

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Speaker 1: and via NATO purchasing from the United States all the

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Speaker 1: hardware they need to punch Vladimir Putin in his dumb

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Speaker 1: Russian mouth. I think I've got it understood. I think

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Speaker 1: that's exactly where it is. Trump was saying that he

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Speaker 1: had sort of made a decision on whether to supply

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Speaker 1: Tomhawkruz missiles to Ukraine or NATO allies. He was talking

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Speaker 1: what they are doing with them before finalizing. Well, sir,

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Speaker 1: what they're doing with them is trying to totally obliterate

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Speaker 1: the Russian energy supply so they stop killing Ukrainian people.

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Speaker 2: That's what they're trying to do.

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Speaker 1: Tomhawks, by the way, have a range of twenty five

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Speaker 1: hundred klometers, which is fifteen hundred and fifty miles. That

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Speaker 1: puts a Moscow in range. Yes, I would agree that

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Speaker 1: Trump doesn't want Moscow hit.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't want that.

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Speaker 1: There are some things that he's gonna say, well that's

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Speaker 2: Well, now Putin's gonna suffer. Trump does this often. It

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Speaker 1: And let me tell you this whole thing with the

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Speaker 1: now it's like, well wait, well see well this, well

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Speaker 1: that it's standard Trump I didn't say it isn't frustrating

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Speaker 1: I didn't say I don't like it.

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Speaker 2: Wait, hold on, yes I did. I really don't like it.

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Speaker 1: But I understand Trump and I understand how he operates,

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Speaker 2: Kind of stuff tries me nuts. Don't set a red

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Speaker 1: I said this about Barack Obama, I'm gonna say it

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Speaker 1: about Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: Of course.

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Speaker 1: Of course, so Putin's saying in a video that if

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Speaker 1: the US supplied tom oaks to Ukraine, it would lead

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Speaker 1: to the destruction of Moscow's relationship with Washington.

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Speaker 2: What relationship with Washington? That would be what I say

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Speaker 2: to Vladimir Putin? What relationship?

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Speaker 1: We got together in Ankorage and we had ourselves a

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Speaker 1: nice chatting. I showed you all the hardware, and you

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Speaker 2: Can't have this killing going on.

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Speaker 1: Because I made a deal with the American people that

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Speaker 2: Why is it that if you got.

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Speaker 1: NATO to now buy the American hardware to give to Ukraine,

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Speaker 1: Now that's a very different philosophy, because what you're saying is, Tony,

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Speaker 1: I favor stopping the Russian aggression. I haven't changed on

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Speaker 1: Now, I know we disagree on that. Why don't you

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Speaker 1: I never said that you had to have American.

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I've opposed putting American troops

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Speaker 1: that means we're involved in a conflict. I said this

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Speaker 1: be protected. Now we are engaging in what it is

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Speaker 1: And again I'll go back to that Oval Office meeting.

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Speaker 1: Trump handled himself like the president of the United States,

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Speaker 1: and JD. Vance stepped on himself. We're going to do

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Speaker 1: Ukraine signed this deal and the other deal in your

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Speaker 1: This isn't about whether or not Jade Vance is a talent.

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Speaker 2: You've got a nice ocean to protect you.

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Speaker 1: It was about his English being improper, and after that

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Speaker 1: talk to me like that? And he was absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: He was every guy on a barstool, everybody in their

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Speaker 1: And Trump smacked him around, absolutely absolutely. Trump wasn't so

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Speaker 1: much smacking around Zelenski as he was smacking around Zelenski because.

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Speaker 2: Of what ch ants did.

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Speaker 1: And it turns out that you can't rationalize, you can't

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Speaker 1: These guys work in a different headspace. Nothing about them

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Speaker 1: get killed. Well, Tony, it's a corrupt government and they.

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Speaker 1: And we're still back in the same damn spot. The

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Speaker 1: it does us any value. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: This is obvious to every rational person.

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Speaker 2: But I never said we had to send in our

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Speaker 1: I was opposed to the idea of the no fly zone,

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Speaker 1: Why because if there's a no fly zone, now we're

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Speaker 2: You got to shoot down the MiG Congratulations.

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Speaker 1: We've been dragged into a war. I want to be supportive.

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Speaker 1: I don't need troops on the ground. If we are

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Speaker 1: It goes without saying, but I'll say again, let NATO

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Speaker 1: So I don't think there's any question about whether or

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Speaker 1: the tomahawks ten thousand percent. President Trump should send the tomahawks.

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Speaker 1: But we don't need a troop on the ground. We

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Speaker 1: It's clear that Putin doesn't want to end this, so

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Speaker 1: Putin needs an off ramp. Yes, he can finish Ukraine

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Speaker 2: And while I say he needs an off ramp, he

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Speaker 1: Give Ukraine everything they need, let them fight the fight,

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Speaker 1: to them. I think this is a great idea. This

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Speaker 1: is Tony Katz today. The shutdown continues. It's day number

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Speaker 1: seven of you not caring at all, Tony Katz. Tony

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Speaker 1: Katz today, good to be with you. Find everything at

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz dot com. I don't know do I have

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Speaker 1: any music that shows you don't care at all?

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Speaker 2: I am high like a fly.

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Speaker 1: I've got right there. Seven days of shutdown, it's still

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Speaker 1: Senator Todd Young yesterday this thing could last another week.

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Speaker 1: Only place it's not And I am being generous in

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Speaker 1: This kind of stuff can't pass in a civil, free society.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: Speech over there at the MRC Media Research Center, And sir,

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Speaker 1: It's referred to as a CBDC central bank digital currency.

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Speaker 3: Well, look, this is an Elizabeth Warren priority, you know,

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Speaker 1: Now, before we go a step further, as we're talking,

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Speaker 4: Right Tony.

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Speaker 3: Here at the Media Research Center, we identified fifty seven

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Speaker 3: these things were out of the Treasurer Department, some of

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Speaker 1: Talking to Dan Schneider, I should get his title accurate

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Speaker 3: Okay, So if you think of cryptocurrency, you got to

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Speaker 3: You know, with cryptocurrency, every time you use some little

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Speaker 3: so much, because they can control and track every single

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Speaker 3: aspect of a person's life literally their physical location, uh

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Speaker 3: you know, their their moods.

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Speaker 5: Their purchasing decisions, every.

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Speaker 3: Aspect of a person's life is known and controlled. And

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Speaker 3: this is so anathema to the entire founding of our

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Speaker 3: nation's government or or system where individuals have individual rights

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Speaker 3: and liberties and privacy. The left wants to control, the

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Speaker 3: right wants liberty. And the digital currency, this government controlled

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Speaker 3: digital currency is the ideal way for them to co

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Speaker 3: control us.

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Speaker 1: And there's a way that this we can see how

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Speaker 1: this is being applied. We go to the UK where

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Speaker 1: Keir Starmer, the Prime Minister who has been shameful in

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Speaker 1: my view, went on this rant. He's on a television

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Speaker 1: program discussing the idea that we must have digital ID

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Speaker 1: so we know who is working. And the journalist whose

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Speaker 1: interviewing says, well, that's depending on whether or not the

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Speaker 1: business actually checks for anything. It's not like if they

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Speaker 1: don't check, you're not going to know. And kre Starmer

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Speaker 1: is adamant we must have digital IDs. But isn't the

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Speaker 1: reporter there making the point that the digital ID only

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Speaker 1: is a value of people who utilize it, or another

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Speaker 1: way of saying it is the only people who are

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Speaker 1: going to be having any level of detrimental effect are

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Speaker 1: those who utilize it, because they're the ones being tracked.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you know.

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Speaker 3: I remember for years I refused to get a Google

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Speaker 3: account because I didn't want Google hoovering up my data.

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Speaker 3: A friend of mine, who's the very senior person at Google,

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Speaker 3: then told me, Dan, if you've ever emailed somebody on

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Speaker 3: their Gmail account, Google has.

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Speaker 4: All of your information already.

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Speaker 3: You don't actually have to have a Gmail account, or

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Speaker 3: in this case, you don't have to use cryptocurrency. If

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Speaker 3: you've interacted with anybody else who's done it, they've got

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Speaker 3: it all. You know, there's no way to avoid this

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Speaker 3: unless you move to the middle of Alaska and build

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Speaker 3: a hut and completely get untethered. You know, this is

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Speaker 3: the world we're in now, those who want to use

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Speaker 3: all technology to control us versus those who want to

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Speaker 3: use technology.

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Speaker 4: To liberate us.

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Speaker 5: And frankly, this is the big difference.

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Speaker 4: Between the Biden approach to.

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Speaker 3: Artificial intelligence and the Trump approach to artificial intelligence. If

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Speaker 3: you bother to read Joe Biden's Executive Order on Artificial Intelligence,

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Speaker 3: which I did, it was all about how the government

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Speaker 3: is going to use AI to to make sure that

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Speaker 3: we don't make any bad decisions. So you know, the

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Speaker 3: Treasury Department was going to use AI to make sure

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Speaker 3: that banks were towing the line and the customers couldn't

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Speaker 3: get out. Aligne HUDs was going to use AI to

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Speaker 3: make sure that there were no bad behavior when it.

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Speaker 4: Comes to renting apartments.

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Speaker 3: And it was all about control and also a stop

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Speaker 3: to Google. Donald Trump came in and he said, what

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Speaker 3: we need to do is allow the private sector to

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Speaker 3: grow and flourish, because ultimately this is a battle between China.

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Speaker 4: And the US.

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Speaker 3: We need to promote artificial intelligence as a service that

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Speaker 3: the US can provide, not as a manipulative tool for

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Speaker 3: government to control us.

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Speaker 1: Talking to you, Dan Schneider of the Media Research Center,

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Speaker 1: this control story is of course the story, but we

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Speaker 1: think of control as how you can move or what

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Speaker 1: you can say. My concern is, as you're bringing up

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Speaker 1: the conversation about watching how many bibles you're buying, Well,

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Speaker 1: if you buy a firearm and then the next month

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Speaker 1: you want to buy a firearm. If it's all digital currency,

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Speaker 1: all this digital world, the government can decide you've had

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Speaker 1: enough of those. You shouldn't have any more of those.

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Speaker 1: This is why people have been opposed to things like

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Speaker 1: digitized health records, that there's too much access and not

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Speaker 1: enough protections. In your view and your conversation you would

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Speaker 1: have with the House of Representatives Financial Services Committee, that

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Speaker 1: hearing that's been put on hold because of the shutdown,

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Speaker 1: how do you think one should balance these two things?

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Speaker 3: Well, look, there's really when you talk about balance, there's

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Speaker 3: no such thing as balance when you're talking to the left.

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Speaker 3: The Chinese have a social credit system, and it's basically

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Speaker 3: the government in China deciding how good you are.

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Speaker 4: You know, you get if you behave.

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Speaker 5: A certain way, you get browned points.

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Speaker 3: If you don't behave a certain way, your corners of

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Speaker 3: your license get knocked off, and you get an ultimate score,

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Speaker 3: a value attached to you as a human being, and

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Speaker 3: that value then determines all kinds of things like whether

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Speaker 3: you can even put gasoline in a car, whether you

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Speaker 3: can buy a ticket to drive, to get on a

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Speaker 3: train and go out of town. They control your movement

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Speaker 3: in the US, and this has not been widely reported Tony,

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Speaker 3: but it started in the Obama administration out of the

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Speaker 3: Transportation Department, working with Uber and Lyft, and those two

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Speaker 3: companies are now completely populated by Obama cronies, including like

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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris's brother in law is a general counsel at

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Speaker 3: Lyft and Obama's Transportation secretary is a senior officer at Uber.

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Speaker 3: They launched this campaign, this effort, this agenda, this initiative

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Speaker 3: to replace initially public trans pretation with Uber and Lyft

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Speaker 3: in different parts of the country, including my portions of Dallas,

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Speaker 3: portions of San Francisco. But ultimately the idea was to

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Speaker 3: expand this nationwide to private vehicles as well, where we

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Speaker 3: would owning a private vehicle would be highly discouraged and

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Speaker 3: instead we would be bound to Uber and Lift type

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Speaker 3: right sharing arrangements controlled by the government. Thus, we would

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Speaker 3: be completely beholden when we wanted to go to the

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Speaker 3: grocery store a social credit system attached to us. And look,

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Speaker 3: I'm a straight white man, you know, so geez, you

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Speaker 3: know I'm gonna automatically start off very low. It might

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Speaker 3: take me four hours before a car finally shows up

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Speaker 3: to pick me up to go to the grocery store

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Speaker 3: where somebody else with the opposite characteristics.

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Speaker 5: You know that Uber would show up instantly.

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Speaker 3: Because that person automatically starts off with a much higher

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Speaker 3: social credit score simply because of there, you know the

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Speaker 3: boxes they check off.

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Speaker 1: And some people are going to say, Okay, now you're

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Speaker 1: just hyperventilating.

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Speaker 2: Now you're just inventing.

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Speaker 1: But when we talk about China, if you're not smiling enough,

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Speaker 1: your credit score goes down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Dellby, I wish I were creating and inventing

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Speaker 3: these things. We actually have the documents, the internal communications

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Speaker 3: between the Dallas Transportation Authority and the Obama and then

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Speaker 3: later Biden transportation departments. We've got the grants, We've got

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Speaker 3: the documents showing what they were really doing.

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Speaker 4: It's shocking. It is shocking. It sounds, it sounds like some.

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Speaker 3: Crazy Hollywood movie of dystopian nature with control.

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Speaker 4: It's real.

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Speaker 3: It's been rolled out in portions of Dallas, portions of Chicago,

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Speaker 3: portions of San Francisco. It's already creeping into our existence.

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Speaker 3: The reason Google and Facebook started to get into the carb.

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Speaker 5: Business specifically because they wanted.

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Speaker 4: To remove the steering wheel from the vehicle so.

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Speaker 5: That we would, you know, even in the commute.

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Speaker 3: We would be attached to our phones and they could

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Speaker 3: make money off of us. It's all about manipulating and

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Speaker 3: controlling us for their benefit.

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Speaker 1: Dan Schneider, vice President, Media Research Center, Vice President MRC,

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Speaker 1: Free Speech America. I appreciate you taking the time to

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Speaker 1: be with us. More is coming up on Tony Katz.

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Speaker 1: This is Tony Kats today, two years removed from October seventh,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, the murder of twelve hundred Israelis and

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Speaker 1: this fight that we have been watching regarding the Israelis

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Speaker 1: regarding Hamas.

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Speaker 2: And we have seen a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Terrorist supporters at the UN, at universities in Congress.

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Speaker 2: They are what they are, They're terrorist supporters.

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Speaker 1: Rashidaslib Ilhano Mar, the UN ANRA, the UN Relief Works Agency.

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Speaker 1: Look at all the kids at Columbia. They're not kids,

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Speaker 1: They're grown ups. They're grown men and women who are

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Speaker 1: responsible for their actions and in culture. These people screaming

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Speaker 1: Israel has to end the genocide. Israel isn't committing a genocide.

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Speaker 1: And now that a peace deal has been put in

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Speaker 1: place or put in front of Hamas, is Amas going

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Speaker 1: to accept.

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Speaker 2: Or are they not?

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Speaker 1: And why aren't these peace nicks screaming about genocide? Screaming

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Speaker 1: for Hamas to accept the deal. The answer is right

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Speaker 1: in front of your face. Accepting the deal doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: because they're not upset with Amas. They're fine with the

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Speaker 1: actions of Hamas. They're fine with the destruction of Western civilization.

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Speaker 1: I will keep saying it until we all start getting it.

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Speaker 1: This isn't about Israel, and this isn't about Jews. This

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Speaker 1: is about you, and this is about Western civilization. Tony Katz.

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today, an absolute pleasure to be with you guys.

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Speaker 1: You know I've been debating. Am I gonna go? I'm

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Speaker 1: invited to go back to Israel and do some investigating

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Speaker 1: and some talking I should say, really not investigating at

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Speaker 1: the end of October and I could spend the week there.

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Speaker 1: There's also a conference going on in Vegas, and maybe

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Speaker 1: I'll go to that. I think we're gonna end up

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Speaker 1: in ISRAELO. I'd like to see how I can really

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Speaker 1: broadcast from there, and how I can put it all

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Speaker 1: together and make that happen. But it's it's wanting to

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Speaker 1: see how things have recovered, really where these people are,

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Speaker 1: because I am under the impression two very important things.

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Speaker 1: Number One that they'll do anything to get their people back,

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Speaker 1: and then on a comma and they want Jamas destroyed.

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Speaker 1: They never want to deal with this again. And then

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Speaker 1: once this is.

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Speaker 2: Done, what are they gonna do about net and Yahoo?

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Speaker 1: Because I am you know, from my last visit, I

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Speaker 1: am under the impression still that the plan is to

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Speaker 1: move him out. He was the prime minister when this

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Speaker 1: attack took place. How could you not know the buck

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Speaker 1: stops here. You got to deal with that. He's the

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Speaker 1: guy who's continued the leadership because the job has to

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Speaker 1: get to right, Hamas has to get destroyed.

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Speaker 2: You gotta get your people back.

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Speaker 1: Okay, But I've seen nothing that shows me that somehow

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Speaker 1: the Israelis are willing to live next door to Hamas.

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Speaker 1: Yet somehow the American left wants to still push this

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Speaker 1: idea of two state solution, et cetera. So NETANYAHUO is

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Speaker 1: a tremendous amount to answer for, and I'll be curious

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Speaker 1: to see what takes place there. But note the silence

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Speaker 1: from the left except for the screams of genocide. Hamas

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Speaker 1: has the chance to end this, save the Palestinian people.

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Speaker 1: Are they actually gonna take it? Because the left isn't

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Speaker 1: demanding they do you don't see any protests. Anybody out

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Speaker 1: there telling Hamas you have to take this deal and

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Speaker 1: end the killing.

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Speaker 2: They're telling you they don't care as.

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Speaker 1: Long as Isuel gets destroyed so we can destroy Western

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Speaker 1: civilization next, which is the goal.

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Speaker 2: That's what they care.

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Speaker 1: About, which is why you have to really question where

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Speaker 1: you send your kid to college.

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Speaker 2: Find everything at tonycats dot com. Tomorrow. Everyone to take

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Speaker 2: care