1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,240 Speaker 1: Damn, we are good. 2 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 2: What are you talking? Well? I mean, yes, I know, 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 2: But what. 4 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: I mean specifically, what time do these guys are they 5 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: supposed to start working today? 6 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: Are you talking about the house going into sessions? 7 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, oh two o'clock, So they have not 8 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: started working yet. 9 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 2: They're still finding parking spaces right now. 10 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: Do you know how hard? I mean? Look, we're lucky. 11 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: Some of these guys in the political orbit have zero 12 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: self control. A lot of them hate our guts, but 13 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: they have enough self control to know, don't engage, don't 14 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: let them know that you're listening. But in the case 15 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: of Jim Lucas, I mean, that guy is the gift 16 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: that keeps on giving. Good morning Jim, he was he 17 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: was rage tweeting or what are they call it on Facebook? 18 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: Is it rage facebooking? But it's not tweeting, it's on Facebook? 19 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: Is he is clearly listening this morning? So Jim, thank you. 20 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: I only wish we could get you a meter. That 21 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: would be fabulous for us, because you listen all the time. 22 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: It's nothing I always love to think about the radio. 23 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: Some of them won't even say my name. At least Jim, 24 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: we give him credit. He will say my name, but 25 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: you know the radio guy, the radio host, thanks for listening. Yeah, like, 26 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: like this is gonna bother me that you hated me 27 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, that this stuff is just so ridiculous. Maybe 28 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: we'll read this thing in a little bit that he 29 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: put out because he is completely ridiculous, And the best 30 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: thing we can do is expose these people for what theyre. 31 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: By the way, you notice they never come in and 32 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: say it to my face. They will keep Mike Young, 33 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: the state senator, was keyboard warrioring over while I was gone. 34 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: Lucas is keyboard warrioring while I'm while I was gone, 35 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: the political consultant guy with keyboard warrioring while I was gone. 36 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: They never come in here, Banks Roketa. They'll go on 37 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: other shows and say horrible things about me, and we're 38 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: always like, great, just come say it right in my face. 39 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't we do it or everybody can hear it. 40 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: If I'm this bad, say it for fifty thousand people 41 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: to here. Why are you limiting yourself to social media 42 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: or some other person show. 43 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: Come say it to my face. 44 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: And they'll never do it. 45 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: That's one thing that I always respect about Todd Roketa. 46 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: The Attorney General by the way, because he'll go on 47 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: with Hammer and Nigel and he doesn't say your name. 48 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: He'll just allude to it, like you know somebody on 49 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 2: your radio. He's a big chicken. He's a big chicken. 50 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: We should do the chicken theme when he got that 51 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 1: should be his introduct show. 52 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 2: No. See, he's smart enough to know though, don't engage. Yeah, 53 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: he's a chicken. I mean he is engaging and he's 54 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: admitting it bothers him. 55 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: My point in all of this is, though, that's what 56 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: your lawmakers are focused on today. That's what guys like 57 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: Jim Lucas, State Rep. Seymour, by the way, we always 58 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: need to remind because you know, our boss is always 59 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: like you've got to tell people who everyone is because 60 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: everybody doesn't know who these people are. So Jim Lucas 61 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: is a State Rep. From Seymour. He drove Jim Lucas, 62 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: State Rep. Seymour, drove drunk, blew through a barricade, drove 63 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: then the wrong way back up a ramp to flee 64 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: the scene, tried to hide his car innovade from the cops, 65 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: and then when the cops caught him, he got super 66 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: cute and deceptive with them. Casey, did I misstated anything 67 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: there about what happened, because he pled guilty to that right, 68 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: he did play guilty to Jim Lucas State Rep. Seymour 69 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: driving drunk, blowing through a barricade, fleeing the scene, and 70 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: then the body cam footage course showed he was trying 71 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: to hide his car and then he got cute with 72 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: the cops and they caught him. And so that's who 73 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: Jim Lucas is and that's what he's focused on this morning. 74 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: He's not focused on doing what's right for you. He's 75 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: not focused on your property taxes. He's not focused on 76 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: the gas tax, which is one of the highest in 77 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 1: the nation. He's not focused on your utility bills. He's 78 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: not focused on cleaning up corruption with the IEDC. He's 79 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: focused on the radio show. He's focused on the radio people. 80 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: Those are your lawmakers. 81 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: Just a reminder that he was no on redistricting, then 82 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: went to the White House and changed his mind. 83 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: That's right. And speaking of people who have changed their mind, 84 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: I think we find remember what was this was a 85 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: couple months ago when Craig Haggard State Rep. Mooresville came 86 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: on our show. Now Craig Haggard, State Rep. Moresville is 87 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: his wife is the woman who allegedly people were viewing 88 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: AI porn of in the Lieutenant Governor's office. That's who 89 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: Craig Haggard, his wife. You may have heard that name 90 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: before he came on our program. And remember, didn't he 91 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: too say how great the maps were? 92 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 2: He said he didn't see a reason to change. 93 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish. I know we have audio in there, 94 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: so maybe we'll play it later on in the show 95 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: of him saying how well they were, Johnny, he noted 96 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: how I think he noted at the time that we 97 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: were one of the few states he gets sued fair. Yeah. Yeah, 98 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: and he loved Greg Stirwall, who drew the maps. They 99 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: were wonderful. Da da da da. And then he too, 100 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: very quickly changed his mind, and people were like, boy, 101 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: you made a pretty definitive statement of Robin Casey's show. 102 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: And then a week later, oh, that was after Charlie 103 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: Kirk threatened him. That was when Charlie Kirk was still 104 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: with us, of course horribly assassinated, but while he was 105 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: still with us, he threatened all the Republican lawmakers and 106 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: Craig Haggard. Well, at the time, we thought it was 107 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: because of Charlie Kirk Coward under his desk and said, 108 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm very sorry for having a opinion. I'll change my mind, 109 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: mister Kirk. But now I think maybe we found out 110 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: why Craig Haggard State Rep. Moresville, whose wife allegedly had 111 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: ai porn beautiful in the Lieutenant Governor's office, why he 112 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: changed his mind. 113 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: Because Casey, yeah, we've got a map. Yes, there is 114 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 2: a twenty five draft of the congressional plan. It has 115 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: been released. Okay, so this is on I still I 116 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: can't figure out. Would I be in District six or nine? 117 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: I can't tell. 118 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: Okay, So a bunch of people, Adam Wrinn, Nikki Kelly, 119 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 1: all sorts of people have tweeted out has been confirmed 120 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: by the House, by the way, that this is the 121 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: map they're going to work off on redistricting. Redistricting, well, 122 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: at least they. 123 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: Have a map to look at. They know what they're 124 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: talking about. 125 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: After six months, they finally produced the map. This is it, kids, 126 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: and they're going to look at it for about two 127 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: days and make their decision on it. But one of 128 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: the things that's super interesting because Craig Haggard, State Rep. Moresville, 129 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: who his wife allegedly had AI porn of her viewed 130 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: in the Lieutenant Governor's office. He is running for Congress 131 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: and in his current district he has to run against 132 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: the incumbent Jim Baird. Now, Jim Baird, you may remember 133 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: Jim Baird. His son is Bo Baird. Bo Baird is 134 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: a State rep from Putnam County who got a OWI 135 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: back in twenty eighteen. And conveniently his name and address puh, 136 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: we're mis entered into the my case file and on 137 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: the court documents. So until what show broke his OWI 138 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: that he didn't tell anybody. 139 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: About Casey this one. 140 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: Oh, that's right, Kendall, and Casey broke that OWI that 141 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: bo Baird didn't tell anybody about that he got in 142 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. And then remember when he got the OWI, 143 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: when we revealed he had the OWI, that excuse he 144 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: gave us that he was like some poor college student 145 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: grad school. He's older than me Casey, which would have 146 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: put him in his mid thirties at the time when 147 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: it went down. We'd just like to tell her, right 148 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: who that are? So Jim Baird is the current incoment 149 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: congressman who Craig Haggard was going to have to run against, 150 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: likely lose against. And now Casey in this new map 151 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: that we're working out, wouldn't you notice Morgan County, Morgan 152 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: County is in an all new congressional district. Yeah, the 153 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: Craig Haggard would seemingly have to himself or certainly be 154 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: the overwhelming favorite in. Isn't that amazing? Casey? Now that 155 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: all worked out in his favor after he changed his mind. 156 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: Looks like they've got Marion County split up into three 157 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: different districts. Depending on what part of Marion County you 158 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: live in, you could have a different. 159 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: Route, That's right, you could. That's that's amazing how that 160 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: all worked out. Now you are from the north northern 161 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: part of the state. You spent our audience may not 162 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: know you spent many years. 163 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: Alan in Granger for twenty five years, which is in 164 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: Sant Joe County. 165 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: That's right. And you were pointing out how ridiculous this 166 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: map is because it's of course they're carving up this 167 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: first congressional district, which is the Chicago Land area, and 168 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: to dilute that district. Currently the district is what is it. 169 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: It's Lake, It's Porter County, which are the two northwestern 170 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: counties in our state, and then our. 171 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: Little sliver of Laporte. 172 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: And they do this because that part of Laporte is 173 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 1: in that district because of the time zone. 174 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: Yes, you've got the Eastern Standard time line right there 175 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: in Laporte County, right, But they've changed it with this 176 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: new map and District one got a lot bigger. It 177 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: has Lake County, part of Porter, Stark, Marshall, Pulaska, Fulton, 178 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: Cass Miami, and Wabash County. So but I thought the 179 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: interesting part about when they redo District two, they swing 180 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: it to the east, so it covers Porter, it covers 181 00:08:54,040 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: all of Laporte and Saint Joe, a portion of Elkhart County, Kasiasco, Noble, 182 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 2: and Whitley. Now here's the interesting thing. Currently the current 183 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: map today, District two has Saint Joe County and Elkhart 184 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: County in it, which makes sense because there's a lot 185 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: of financial interest where those two share economy, Saint Joe 186 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 2: and elkartt County. It's one of the reasons why Saint 187 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 2: Joe County is on eastern standard time because they wanted 188 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: it on the same time zone as Elkhart County. And 189 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: with this new map, they have split up elkhartt County. 190 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 2: In Elkatt County will now be in District three, in 191 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 2: Saint Joe County will be in District two. 192 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's let's make some sense of that. Because 193 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: you have made such a great point. This is why, 194 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: and we'll get into maybe when we come back, what 195 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: the Republicans actually think of you, if you have independent 196 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: thought and have actually thought this through, what people like 197 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: Micah beckwe and Andrew Ireland think of you, if you 198 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: have independent thought inter factoring these things in, maybe we'll 199 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: read that when we come back. Now, these maps were 200 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: drawn and they probably heard when they did the statewide 201 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: listening tour from people up there that said, hey, we 202 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: like in that region for economics to keep one time 203 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: zone altogether. That makes sense. And then, as you mentioned, 204 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: with these counties that share immense economic interest, please keep 205 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: us together because that's going to be best for us 206 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: as citizens, which makes the maps fair and serving the 207 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: interest of the people rather than a political party. This, 208 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: what Casey just laid out is a major reason why 209 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: people like me and look, I don't want to speak 210 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: for you. You can say no, Rob, I'm totally for the 211 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: redistricting if I'm wrong here. But just reading the tea 212 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: leaves why we are against this, because these are things 213 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: that you should factor in when you draw congressional maps, 214 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: which is what they call them, commune unities of interest. 215 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: What is going to happen to these people if we 216 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: put somebody over here. What's going to happen if we 217 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: put them over there? How do we make our state 218 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: operate the best and best help the people, which the 219 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: maps are currently doing. And this is the most government 220 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: thing ever where you have maps that the government has 221 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: previously espoused. Oh, they're perfect, They're wonderful, they accomplish all 222 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: these things. The people go, hey, these maps are pretty good. 223 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: We like them. They address issues like what you just 224 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: laid out. Everything's good, and then government comes in and goes. 225 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: Nah, yeah, there's a lot more commonality in the northern 226 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: part of in Indiana, they call the region Michiana between 227 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: South Bend, Elkhart and Goshen, and currently they're all in 228 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 2: the same district. With this new map, they want to 229 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: break that up. 230 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: And I'm sure if you go across the state. You 231 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: will see this in all sorts of these districts. What 232 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: you just laid out, you're just very familiar because you 233 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: lived up there with one of the things that clearly 234 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: was factored in as part of the decision, which is 235 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: now not going to be factored in American County. 236 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 2: It's split up into three different districts. 237 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: Yes, so that means you would have three people with 238 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: districts that stretch literally across the state if you look 239 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: at this map. So like, part of what you're supposed 240 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: to do is, as I said, have like minded communities, 241 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: community communities of interest in which and you're never going 242 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,599 Speaker 1: to get it exactly right, but the map should be 243 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: a reflective of if you're a rep. You want to 244 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: have people who have like minded interests or geography so 245 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: that when you go to Washington, you're representing your district. Well, 246 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: you tell me what the hell casey Marion County, which 247 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: is the district they're apparently giving to Craig Haggard for 248 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: flipping his vote from there. To guess the the what 249 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: Marion County is going to have in common with Harrison 250 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: County at the far tip southern tip of the state 251 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: of Indiana. Yeah, I've been to Harrison County to announce 252 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: a football game before Casey. You know what they have 253 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: in common with Marion County. 254 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: Nothing? 255 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: You tell me. Let's see what Marion County is going 256 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: to have in common with Jennings County, which is basically 257 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: to the about as nearly as far southeast as you 258 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: can go. You tell me what Marion County is going 259 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: to have in common with Randolph County, which as far 260 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 1: east as you can possibly go. The answer is zero. 261 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: Because this isn't about people. It isn't about serving the constituents. 262 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: It isn't about serving Hoosiers. It's about bending in India 263 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: some guy in Washington, d C. Because they're petrified of 264 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. We're going to get screwed. You're going to 265 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: get screwed, and Donald Trump is going to get what 266 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: he wants. That's what these maps are about. That's it. 267 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: They've got just a little slivery sliver of Delaware County 268 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: in District three, and let's see here, Green County is 269 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 2: split between District four and District eight. You also have 270 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: Tippecanoe County, which is split between District four and District five. 271 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: It's very interesting and again Elkhart County split between District 272 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: three and District two, and then just a little portion 273 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: of Porter County would remain in District one, where currently 274 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 2: all of Porter County is in District one. 275 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break. When we come back, 276 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: can I talk about the k We're very old. 277 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: I didn't realize what time it was. 278 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: We talked of this conversation I had with this farmer 279 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: last night. This was a fascinating conversation and it really 280 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: hit home, one about the importance of the voice that 281 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: we have on this program, but two how people are 282 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: actually feeling in the real world. 283 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 2: It's kend of Lin Casey on ninety three WYBC. 284 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: Okay, we gotta talk about this conversation I had with 285 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: the farmer last night. This was fascinating. I wanted to 286 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: tell it to our audience because I think it's how 287 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: so many people in our audi is feeling. It's Kennel 288 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: Casey showing Rob. That's Casey. So you were missed last night. 289 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I didn't make it to the Billy Dean concert. 290 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: I was on my way back from the East Coast. 291 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: Every year, Billy Dean, friend of our program, a legendary 292 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: Grammy winning recording artist country music star. He does a 293 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: benefit around Christmas time in Danville at the historic Royal Theater. 294 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: That place is well, you've been there. It's just awesome. 295 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: It's one of these, you know, probably darn near one 296 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty or forty years old at this point, 297 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: one of these surviving theaters. And he does this. It's 298 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: a very small I mean, they charge a premium for 299 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: the tickets, but it's a very small, one hundred person 300 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: ish type type event. 301 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 2: Intimate night with Billy Dean. 302 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: It's a great show, and for the past several years, 303 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: Casey and I have been asked to m see the event. 304 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: I know the group that puts it on and they 305 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: their primary thing they're doing is they raise money for 306 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: various Hendrick County charities. And so we were asked again. 307 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: Casey big time them and said, no, just kidding. 308 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: I did. 309 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. 310 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: I told you. Last year I made it and I 311 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: was on the East coast again for Thanksgiving and got 312 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: up very early in the morning to drive the ten 313 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: hours back to make it to the Billy Deane show. 314 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: And this year I said, Rob, I'm not waking up 315 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: at five in the morning to make it back. I 316 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 2: want to sleep in and then drive home. So that's 317 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: what I did. Didn't make it to the show. 318 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: They were like, would you and Casey like to do this? 319 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: I said, I'll do it. I'll ask Casey and then 320 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: you said no, and I said, well I'll do it, 321 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: and they go, oh okay, and then thanks. When I 322 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: got there, I said, well, you know, because the main 323 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: people know, but the audience or whatever doesn't know, and people, 324 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: where's Casey. Well she's attending Thanksgiving with her family, so 325 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: it's just you. That'll be great. 326 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: But no, I'm sure they loved you. 327 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: Billy Dean was awesome, great event. They raised well over 328 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: thirteen thousand dollars I think for these various charities, which 329 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: is a phenomenal thing. But anyway, you know, obviously lots 330 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: of double IBC fans. My job was to get on stage, 331 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: read the sponsors and you know, introduce the acts and 332 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: Levi Riggs, who was a local recording artist, was the 333 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: opening act, and you know, bring Billy Dean on stage. 334 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: They do an auction to raise money all this. 335 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: Did Billy ask where I was? 336 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: Yes, he said, where's my girlfriend? For those who don't know, 337 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: Casey had a massive crush on Billy Dean in the well. 338 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: When was this It was the late nineties, the late 339 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: ninety I wasn't concern about dating you. I was concerned 340 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: about dating Billy. But anyway, great event and a lot 341 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: of people coming up before the event, people coming up after, 342 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: and one of the folks came up to me. He said, 343 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: and I met this person years ago when I helped 344 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: Danville defeat their school referendum, but had been whatever six 345 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: years since I had seen the person and started shooting 346 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: the breeze and he said, you know, just a reminder. 347 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm a farmer here in in Danville. 348 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: And he said, you know, I want to thank you 349 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: guys for your voice on well. He said everything, but 350 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: he said the property tax issue, because he said, for 351 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: me as a farmer, he said, that is the issue. 352 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: And his wife was there and she was lovely, and 353 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: he basically said, nobody's speaking up for us. He said, 354 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: you guys get it, like you guys, the farmers get 355 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: so punished with their property taxes and this new property 356 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: tax bill did very little to help them. And he said. 357 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: One of the things that hit me is he said, 358 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: you know, I just love when you talk about the 359 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: value of fields and when you talk about how much 360 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: as a kid fields meant to you. And he said, 361 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: you know, when I'm out working in the field, I'm 362 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: listening to you guys. And he said that that really 363 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: hit hit hit home for me, because nobody's talking about 364 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: this anymore. That it's always about what company's coming here, 365 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: what development's coming here. And I always think about it. 366 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: To me, it's like it's literally in our state song 367 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: back Home Again in Indiana, you know, the fields I 368 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: used to roam right like the song you think of 369 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: when you think of Indiana. It's it. It was go 370 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: Gomer Pile for years. And now that what's the guy 371 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: his name that does it now? The guy who sings 372 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: for the Bears and the but Cornelius, Jim Cornelias, you 373 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: know in the back Home Again in Indiana, the fields 374 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: I used to roam like. That's how in trench the 375 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: idea of crops and fields and land and open land. 376 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: That's how associated it was with our state. And it's 377 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: all being it's all being gobbled up. And this guy's going, 378 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: thank you for saying that, because to the farmers one 379 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: the property taxes were getting killed, and yes, the idea 380 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: that land. This guy said, I get a call this 381 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: this really touched me. He said, I'm not quoting a verbatim, 382 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: but he said, I get a call every couple of 383 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: weeks from some developer. 384 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 2: Who wants to buyse land. 385 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: And he's like, I'm not selling because this guy, these 386 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: farmers that are still left, they find value in the work. 387 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: They find value in feeding a nation, they find value 388 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: in serving the public, and we treat them like complete crap, 389 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: taxing them out of into oblivion. 390 00:19:54,960 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: I was told that the property tax bill was fantastic. Yeah, dude, 391 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 2: don't think why. I was told by the governor that 392 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: everyone loved it. 393 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: But I did. And you know what, you know what 394 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: he didn't mention. We talked about a whole host, you know, 395 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: whole host of issues. And by the way, when I'm 396 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: out and about, like, I'm one of those people. As 397 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: long as you behave yourself, you come up. We talk 398 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: about whatever you want, as long as you, you know, 399 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: behave like a decent member of society where you love me, 400 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: don't like me, whatever. But you know one things that 401 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: never came up that was on his priority list redistricting. 402 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: Oh and he wasn't talking about that at all. 403 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: You know what, I didn't hear the whole night from 404 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: anybody of the countless people that came up and wanted 405 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: to talk about various issues. You know what, not one 406 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 1: person said to me redistricting. 407 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but our lawmakers are spending a whole lot of 408 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 2: time talking about it, aren't they. 409 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, And when we come back, can we talk about 410 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: what some of our lawmakers actually think of you if 411 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: you have an independent voice, if you're not on their 412 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: side of the restard Yeah, okay, think about that. 413 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Kendilly Casey on ninety three WYBC. 414 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: Okay, we got to get to this tweet here, and 415 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: just a little bit about what some of your politicians 416 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: think of you if you're having any sort of independent 417 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: thought on redistricting. But first, I saw this while I 418 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: was gone, and I'm gonna need you to walk me 419 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: off the ledge on this, Casey, because this seems like 420 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: kind of a big deal to me, And you can say, Rob, 421 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: it is a big deal because it involves this radio 422 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: station to some extent, not currently, but this radio station 423 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: it was a major player in this thing. And I'm 424 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: very upset about what's being done here. So let's walk 425 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 1: through the story and then you can tell me, tell 426 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: you what my beef is. And then you can say, Rob, 427 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: you're totally out of line or you've got you've got 428 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: a case with this, Okay, and I'll you're the voice 429 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: of reason. I'll respect whatever you whatever you have to say. Okay. 430 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: By the way, it's Kenell and Casey show and Rob. 431 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: That's Casey. Okay. So in the ninth late nineteen seventies, 432 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven, a really not only across the nation, 433 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: but it was a worldwide event. Was the eyes of 434 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: the nation and in some extents around the world were 435 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: tuned to Indianapolis in February because a guy by the 436 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: name of Tony Kurritzis took a local mortgage executive hostage. 437 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: Richard Hall was the guy's name. He there was a 438 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: land deal that he believed had gone wrong. He was 439 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: upset about it. He goes into this guy's office and 440 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: Coritzis takes Richard Hall hostage. 441 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a sawed off shotgun and he was 442 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 2: demanding five million dollars. 443 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: It was essentially it was called I believe they called 444 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: it dead Man's Wire. I think was the name of 445 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: it where he hooks Hall to this basically to himself. 446 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: So he's got his finger on the gun if you 447 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: can picture this. He hooks Hall up to this contraption 448 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: to where if something happens, his finger will automatically pull 449 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: the trigger on the gun. And obviously the guy would 450 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: would would be would be killed. And so this horrific 451 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: situation starts playing out. The news gets word that the 452 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: this is going on. It culminates in him leaving this 453 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: building he's in on these icy Indianapolis streets. He's got 454 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: this guy hooked up to this contraption where if he falls, 455 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: he's basically dead, or people thought he would would. Ironically, 456 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: he did slip at one point and the thing didn't 457 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: go off. But this is playing on a life too me. 458 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: Like he's walking down the street with this s guy 459 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: held hostage. He gets back to his apartment, like all 460 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: of this stuff, over over multiple days is playing out, 461 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: and the whole country, certainly, like I said, even the 462 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: world to some extent, is focused on this. Well, if 463 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: you live in Indianapolis and have lived in Indianapolis for 464 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: any length of time, even though this happened like for 465 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: me well before I was born, you it was in 466 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: the prime of your life, but for me, it was 467 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: well before I was born. You know about this. This 468 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: is a super famous thing that happened in the city 469 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: of Indianapolis. And one of the key components of this 470 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: is that when Coritzis had Richard Hall held hostage, he 471 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: kept calling Fred Heckman, who was the news director at WIBC. 472 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: Fred Heckman is one of those famous broadcasters who ever 473 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: lived in the history of this city. Take away the 474 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: fact that he worked for WIBC and was a legend 475 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: on wibcros everybody who knows anything about radio in this 476 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: city and a literally generations, I mean he was there, 477 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, thirty forty, I mean he was here forever. 478 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: Generations grew up listening to this guy do the news, 479 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: including me. Yeah, here in central Indiana. And so Critzis 480 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: would call Heckman. Heckman would play the calls on the 481 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,719 Speaker 1: air while this was going on in real time, and 482 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: that was part of what kept this guy going and 483 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: from harming not only Hall but also himself, was his 484 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: ability to communicate with Fred Heckman. 485 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 2: Heckman was giving him a platform and keeping it going. 486 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: So he's next to Hall and Kritz's sort of like 487 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: the third most important character in this story, in the 488 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: whole thing. So that's the background on this. Well, now 489 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: it has come out that they're making a movie, or 490 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: made a movie. 491 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 2: It's called dead Man's Wire and it's going to be 492 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: in select theaters on January ninth, followed by a wider 493 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 2: release on January sixteenth. 494 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: So I see the trailer pop up for this, and 495 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, oh, this is this is going to be awesome. 496 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: I mean, what a I mean, Hall has written a 497 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: book about it. Hall was all over our airwaves several 498 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: years ago. I think he's since passed. But when all 499 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: this happened and fascinating story, I thought, this is going 500 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: to be what a. You know, there's just so many 501 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: great people to showcase. I mean, the event itself is horrible, 502 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: but heroes who helped defuse the situation. Heckman's you know, 503 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: the main guy, right, that's gonna be great for WIBC. Now, 504 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 1: for those of you don't know, Fred, Heckman was very 505 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: white and very white, little short guy with glasses, you know, 506 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: I mean, like like very white guy. And so I 507 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: start watching the trailer and the Fred character emerges. 508 00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's not white. No, he's black. Yeah, And 509 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 2: I'm like. 510 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: I get that we take liberties in Hollywood. In Hollywood, yeah, 511 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: but there's a difference when you take it like this 512 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: is a major change. And I don't care whether the 513 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: guy was white or black. Like if you were doing 514 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: the Magic Johnson story, I wouldn't expect James Worthy to 515 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: be a white guy. I would expect the person. 516 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 2: To look a little bit to some extent, right, Like. 517 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: Do they even have him working at WIBC. I'm looking 518 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: at this going you're. 519 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,959 Speaker 2: Changing to see at a station in Louisville. 520 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: Like, what what are we? What are we doing here? 521 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: Like this can't be for anything other than political correctness, 522 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: because in Hollywood, like any you can find anybody who 523 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: looks like anybody. And it's not like Fred Heckman was 524 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: some Brad Pitt looking character who would be very hard 525 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: to cast. You could find a million guys who look 526 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: like him. And I'm watching this going, wait a minute, 527 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: this isn't this isn't right at all. And again it's 528 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,719 Speaker 1: like if there was story story where the central character 529 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: was black in real life or Asian or Hispanic, I 530 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: would expect the character to look like the character did 531 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: in real life, and yet they've totally changed that. 532 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 2: Well, it does make you question if Hollywood's going to 533 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: take other liberties with the story, if they'll change it 534 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 2: at all. We do have the trailer. Here's part of it. 535 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: What are you hear in Indianapolis? It is Tuesday, February eighth. 536 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: I'm DJ Fred Temple. 537 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 2: I thank you for listening, mister Temple. 538 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: Sarah, you have a caller. I have done in thirty 539 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: minutes is what I. 540 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 3: Have That Tony Kurtzi's fellows on the line and he's 541 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 3: asking to speak to you. 542 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 2: Theod guy with the shotgun in the man's neck. 543 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,479 Speaker 1: He should open with that shit, James Ben, time's coming 544 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: and we would out on Sor. It's an honor friend. 545 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: What's on your mind? Brother? It's Loan So. 546 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 2: They changed his name too. 547 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then it's like, this is the same thing 548 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: they do with the Elvis move. This is why I 549 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: couldn't go see the Springsteen movie because they did this 550 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: with the Elvis movie, where they invented people that weren't there, 551 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: things that didn't happen. It's like Elvis lived an interesting 552 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: enough life. 553 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 2: That you don't you don't need to exaggerate. 554 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 1: You don't need to. And by the way, emb just 555 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: to show you this totally in just a race thing. 556 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: You know at about race, the Corrinzizs guy doesn't love 557 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: anything like Caritzis. You know, years ago there was one 558 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: of those crime dramas those like like like America's Most Wanted. 559 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: It wasn't America's most Wanted, but it was maybe FBI 560 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: the Untold Stories where Gary Sandy played. Gary Sandy was 561 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: the famous Andy Travis on WKRPS, where most people would 562 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: know him from. He played Carritzis in the the documentary. 563 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: He looked just like him, like it was. It was 564 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: scary how much he looked like him. But if you're changing, 565 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: if you're changing, like, how could I invest in anything 566 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: when the story itself is such a part of our city, 567 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: it's such a big deal. It's interesting enough as is 568 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: captivated an entire nation. You don't have to change anything. 569 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: And they just appear to be doing this. I don't 570 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: know what I come up with other than political correctness 571 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: that they felt like we have to have a star. 572 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: Why they changed it? So not only did they change 573 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 2: his race, they also changed his name. And are they 574 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: doing that for storytelling? Purposes. That makes you not want 575 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: to not want to watch the movie. Right, it's still 576 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 2: probably a good movie. 577 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: If Fred Heckman was a hero. What Fred Heckman did 578 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: and many others the law enforce I'm not saying he's 579 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: the only guy, but what Fred Heckman did that was 580 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: legendary in this city. I mean, people, like I said, 581 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: generations later we're talking about his role in helping save 582 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: that guy's life. WIBC was obviously already on the map 583 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: and was a major player. That's why he called WIBC 584 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: in part. But it put WIBC to the national spotlight. 585 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: And to change it's just like, why would you? It's 586 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: so insulting to the guy who played such an important 587 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,239 Speaker 1: role in all of this. 588 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does seem to change the story just a 589 00:29:59,000 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: little bit, doesn't it. 590 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: So anyway, do I have a Do I have a 591 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: right to be upset? 592 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so? 593 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: I do? 594 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 2: I think you do? I think you do? Because they're 595 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: changing it. They changed his name. 596 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: That's it. Go to break. 597 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 2: It's getting only Casey on ninety three WIBC. 598 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: Okay, you've got a bunch of things you want to hawk, 599 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: Jason Hammer, go ahead. The floor is yours Hammer Nigel 600 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: to the our Hammer of the Hammer Nigel Show joins us. 601 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 3: Now, Hello, happy Cyber Monday couple. All your cyber ring 602 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 3: has been very productive so far. And uh, the Hammer 603 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 3: and Nigel Show store store dot hammer in Nigel dot 604 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 3: com or just go into Google talk. 605 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: You have new products, don't you. 606 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: Hammer and Nigel Store. We've got new products. 607 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 3: The Christmas line is out, a couple cousin Eddi's shirts. 608 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 3: We've got the die Hard shirt. Now, I've got a 609 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 3: machine gun Hammer and Nigel. Also combo sales going on 610 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 3: for Cyber Monday, So if you want a hoodie and 611 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 3: a hat, you can get a combo deal. The I 612 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 3: Hate Rob Kendall shirts are there. The I Love Rob 613 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 3: Kendall shirts are there. 614 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: You know, I had an idea for a shirt. I 615 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: figured it would take off in bron voyage. I think 616 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: would be a great sewn voyage with a ship that's collapsing. Also, 617 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: this afternoon, probably in the four o'clock hour, we've got 618 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: a date locked in for this year's Red White and 619 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: Bowl event. That's our fantastic bowling event we do for charity. 620 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: We're raising money for Who's Your Veterans and Rob, I 621 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: think you'll appreciate this. 622 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 3: Yes, our bowling event is almost like the Waste Management 623 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 3: Opened in the golf world. 624 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: Ye right, Yes, that's the big golf event. It's actually 625 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: usually the day of the Sunday is the day of 626 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. It leads right up to the Super Bowl, 627 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: in which pretty much everything they normally don't allow to 628 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: go on on a golf course is allowed at the 629 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: Phoenix Waste Management Open. 630 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 3: And this was the location last year Woodland Bowl where 631 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 3: Nige was so drunk. Rob drove him home and we 632 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 3: got that world famous live stream of Nige just hammered drunk. 633 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 3: And what's great is that Like I'm a hill jack, right, 634 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 3: like I embrace my hill jack. 635 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: Nigel's a bigger hick than I am, but he tries 636 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 2: to act like. 637 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 3: He's some sort of like Zionsville elitist, Like at least 638 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 3: I grew up in Marion County. He's a listing kid, yea. 639 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 3: But when he gets hammered drunk, he tries to act 640 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 3: like his neighbors. Oh, like, colleague, I don't like to 641 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 3: go places like, dude, you're a hick from Liston. 642 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm lucky you have sleeves on your shirt today the. 643 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: Last he knows the date now for his designated driver. 644 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 3: Correct, you have plenty of time to book that DD. 645 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 3: So we'll announce that this afternoon. We're excited for that. 646 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: My favorite part was when he tried to tell me 647 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: to turn into a grove of trees and I said, Nigel, 648 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: there's no road there. 649 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: Turn less? 650 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: I mean right, yeah, I figured that out when there 651 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: was a grove of trees that I couldn't turn in. 652 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: He he doesn't need roads, correct? 653 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: And then I love when I got him back to 654 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: his house, he just starts throwing money at me and 655 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, no, I can't. 656 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 2: Oh it's not enough. Did you keep it? Of course 657 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 2: I get much bigger hick. 658 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 3: Than I am, but tries to act like thirst and 659 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 3: how and when against hammered drunk. 660 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: It's a combination of both that it's beautiful. Although I 661 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: will say you followed it up. Was it the state 662 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: fair where you got all boozed up and your wife drove? 663 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 2: Now? 664 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: Carb Day? That was Carb Day? That's right. Yes, that 665 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: was a great video as well. She had reached the 666 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: up for with which she could not stand with you, 667 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: and that was great too. Yeah. The coupon lady and 668 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: I we go hard in the paint. We uh. 669 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 3: We have some disagreements from time to time, but no, 670 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 3: it was great and we will announce the date. So 671 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 3: get ready to buy your tickets. And I'm telling you 672 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 3: last year, at one point we had a big group 673 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 3: of drunken dudes to a pyramid on the ball. 674 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: Here's what we might have to do this year. Maybe 675 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: we'll see if Gabrielle will be the designated driver, and 676 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: then we can all get super lick gre up together 677 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: and you could drive us all home. 678 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 3: All of us setting in the backseat together, just making 679 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 3: her sit up front by herself. 680 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 2: Right. 681 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 3: Oh, no, like the chauffeur five hundred dollars and that 682 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 3: can be yours, rah, five hundred dollars. 683 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: It's a great event. Erybody should buy the tickets. What 684 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: else is on your mind? 685 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 3: So I'm curious here, Like I know where Rob stands 686 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 3: on the redistrict thing. You're against it, yes, and you've 687 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 3: given me a reasons why. I understand it. 688 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 1: That's fine. 689 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 3: I am somebody that is for it, and I've given 690 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 3: you my reasons why. And I think you understand that. 691 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 3: You know, adults can be adults to disagree as long 692 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 3: as you've got valid reasons. 693 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, neither of us threatened to pipe bomb at the 694 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: other's house. 695 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 3: Right, So where are you at, Casey? Like, where is 696 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 3: your stance on this? Are you for it or against it? 697 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 2: I understand both sides. I understand the national fight, and 698 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 2: we can't let Democrats rule because of you know, the 699 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 2: awful decisions they make. However, I think you know, it's 700 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 2: an Indiana thing, And like Rob always says, what is 701 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 2: one more Jefferson Shreeve gonna do for Hoosiers? And you 702 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 2: can vote for Donald Trump but disagree with him on 703 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 2: this issue? 704 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: True? 705 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, would come better that you live in Indianapolis. So 706 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 3: you think that Andre Carson rain of terror is so 707 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 3: much better than a Jefferson Shrive rain of terror? 708 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 2: Uh? You know what, I can't tell who my rep 709 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 2: would be with this new proposed map. Okay, because they've 710 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 2: got to split into three. 711 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: Okay, there's a new documentary about aliens. By the way, 712 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: it's on Prime that Carson's in and he's supposed to 713 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 1: be really good in it. Is he an alien? What's 714 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: coming up this afternoon? 715 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 3: We're going to announce the new dates for this year's 716 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 3: charity bowling event Red White and Bull plus more snow tonight. 717 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 3: How much bread? How much milk will we need? We'll 718 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 3: get into it this afternoon. 719 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,959 Speaker 2: Thanks Sammer. It is Kenday Casey. It's ninety three WIBC.