Speaker 1: I don't enjoy talking about zoron Mumdani. The communist Islamists,
Speaker 1: I say, Islamists. Some people are now into Islamo Marxists.
Speaker 1: It's just too many, too many things. One thing picket
Speaker 1: Islamis are communists. They're working together. This Red Green alliance
Speaker 1: is very, very real. And when they destroy Western civilization,
Speaker 1: they will fight each other and the Communists are gonna lose.
Speaker 2: We all understand this right. The Communists are gonna get
Speaker 2: their ass is kicked. They're gonna lose so bad.
Speaker 1: They are gonna lose like Purdue against Indiana in an
Speaker 1: oaken bucket game. Now, for those of you who are
Speaker 1: not from here, let me say for the record, this
Speaker 1: is a dig on the new athletic director, Tommy McClelland,
Speaker 1: who made one of the great blunders I've ever heard,
Speaker 1: and I have argued publicly that firing him is on
Speaker 1: the table.
Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good to be with you.
Speaker 1: I will get to that. Ed R joins me right
Speaker 1: now from hot air dot com. He appreciated my big
Speaker 1: ten humor. I bring up, Mam Donnie, and I don't
Speaker 1: you like to talk about New York because it gets
Speaker 1: too much play. But what's important here is that how
Speaker 1: this is trying to spread across the country an election
Speaker 1: after election. But it was a really interesting story in
Speaker 1: Staten Island. Now Stotton Island is one of the boroughs
Speaker 1: of New York where the where Mom Donnie is mayor
Speaker 1: and it is has always been a conservative, if not
Speaker 1: Republican stronghold. These are very pro America people and they
Speaker 1: don't see themselves as the rest of New York and
Speaker 1: if they could break away, they would.
Speaker 2: They had an event for a local police department.
Speaker 1: It was a turnout with the neighbors kind of event,
Speaker 1: and Mamdani showed up and after sixty seconds of speaking
Speaker 1: gets booed off the stage, gets booed off the stage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's it's embarrassing, it's you Hu miliating
Speaker 2: for him.
Speaker 1: And then comes the story that Mom Donnie, it turns out,
Speaker 1: has a very very very thin bit of skin. And
Speaker 1: this was the story a front page of the New
Speaker 1: York Post. Mam Donnie is thin skinned and hyper sensitive
Speaker 1: and private in private, despite unflappable social media image.
Speaker 2: And my argument, ed, is that's where all these communists are.
Speaker 1: That's just all these Islamis are because none of them
Speaker 1: can actually handle an actual discussion of what it is
Speaker 1: they believe. Is there a tide turning based on what
Speaker 1: you can see regarding Mam Donnie in New York and
Speaker 1: is that now flowing through to the rest of the nation.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure about New York City. I'm honestly not
Speaker 3: sure about whether there's a tide turning in New York
Speaker 3: City or not. Think it's too early to tell, but
Speaker 3: I mean, we haven't had side elections or by elections
Speaker 3: or anything else like that, and frankly, New York has
Speaker 3: been turning kind of a radical for a while now.
Speaker 3: They just nominated you know, Daria, Lizis Chevalier and a
Speaker 3: couple other DSA people, you know, outright DSA people for
Speaker 3: the US House, and they're going to win those districts,
Speaker 3: so they'll be sitting in Congress next January unless there's
Speaker 3: something really remarkable that goes on in those heavily democratic
Speaker 3: districts there that's baked into the cake. So I'm not
Speaker 3: necessarily sure about New York City. I do think though,
Speaker 3: that we might have seen peak DSA around the country.
Speaker 3: I would point to what's happening in Michigan. What happened
Speaker 3: in Michigan this week, which was that you know, Abdulah
Speaker 3: Sayed was supposedly had all this momentum behind him. You
Speaker 3: had five different polsters that had him up by double
Speaker 3: digits in a Democrat primary within two and three weeks
Speaker 3: of the actual primary vote, and he barely won the nomination,
Speaker 3: didn't get to fifty percent, barely won against Tiley Stephens.
Speaker 3: Haley Stevens ends up winning Wayne County, which is De Troit,
Speaker 3: which is remarkable that she won that county and still
Speaker 3: didn't win the nomination. And that just goes to show
Speaker 3: you that this is really a phenomenon that's really around
Speaker 3: college towns.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: And I've been arguing this all along, which is that
Speaker 3: this is only going to work in really concentrated blue bubbles.
Speaker 3: Right when you get statewide in a state like Michigan,
Speaker 3: or if you want to go over to nearby Wisconsin
Speaker 3: where Francesca Hang is running for the Democrat nomination for governor,
Speaker 3: that's next week on.
Speaker 4: Once you go statewide, that dissipates.
Speaker 3: And I think that because all of this stuff is
Speaker 3: getting exposed about the DSA's actual agenda I mean they're
Speaker 3: explicit agenda. You can look at their explicit agenda and
Speaker 3: see that what they're talking about is eliminating the Senate,
Speaker 3: eliminating the Presidency as we know it now, basically throwing
Speaker 3: out the Constitution, going to a House of Representatives that
Speaker 3: acts more like a ball up bureau, and imposing a
Speaker 3: no private property type of system on America, probably by force,
Speaker 3: because that's the way it it would have to proceed.
Speaker 3: I think people understand now that these people are actual nuts,
Speaker 3: they're radicals. And right now you're seeing the media talk
Speaker 3: about this, as you know, Republicans.
Speaker 4: Are doing a red scare. This isn't a red scare.
Speaker 4: This is Code red, by the way, and this is real.
Speaker 1: A quick thing to go over here, because this just
Speaker 1: popped up on my feed as a graphic. It looks
Speaker 1: a little pornographic. It's not meant to and I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to be pornographic with this graphic. There is a
Speaker 1: red line at the top and a blue line at
Speaker 1: the bottom, and the red line is l Sayed and
Speaker 1: the blue line is Haley Stevens. This was the polling
Speaker 1: in Michigan, and then it got closed and then it
Speaker 1: spread a little bit more, and then on election day
Speaker 1: it's l sayed the Islamist or the Islamist adjacent by
Speaker 1: one percent. So to your point, this did not work
Speaker 1: out the way any of the pollsters set it would,
Speaker 1: and that we should really discuss what it is that
Speaker 1: we're getting in terms of the polling.
Speaker 2: And we have discussed here what a huge problem this
Speaker 2: creates for else.
Speaker 1: I had for the Democrats to win against Mike Rogers,
Speaker 1: because Democrats the forty seven percent plus who voted for
Speaker 1: Haley Stevens, who is no peach by the way, the.
Speaker 2: Representative.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how you vote for somebody
Speaker 1: who gives you such incredible gems like this one.
Speaker 4: A little bit of enthusiasm, a little bit of energy,
Speaker 4: and a little bit of sicket to them.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. I don't know how you
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 1: I also don't know how you vote for a guy
Speaker 1: supported by Hassan Piker.
Speaker 2: I edited this pretty well. Their producer landa but finger
Speaker 2: on the dumb button.
Speaker 1: The RNC put this out about him talking about black voters.
Speaker 4: Would black people care about Oh, black people care about this?
Speaker 2: Is black people care about that?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Shut the fuck up?
Speaker 4: That's not how politics works.
Speaker 2: Oh well, how dare you like it or not black
Speaker 2: people care about this issue. It's like, it's such a
Speaker 2: stupid stance.
Speaker 5: Any other black folk want to engage in radical activist
Speaker 5: language in this chat?
Speaker 2: Suck? Yes, dude, it's because I'm racist.
Speaker 5: That's why.
Speaker 2: It's because I'm racist.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 5: We back to a better time when lynchings were happening.
Speaker 5: This is what I like as a black man. Are
Speaker 5: you always doing too much with black people? Leave them alone?
Speaker 5: I want to go back to lynching, Like, I get it,
Speaker 5: but'll relax, man, shut the f up. Okay, damn, you
Speaker 5: got me. Okay, you got me because I'm a racist person.
Speaker 4: Now you know why he lost Detroit.
Speaker 2: There is a real story here.
Speaker 1: Talking to edmarscyaf hotair dot com, as we talk about
Speaker 1: whether or not this works in certain blue bubbles, we
Speaker 1: already have l s A. Ed having a problem with
Speaker 1: the Stephens voters, because the Stephens voter can either hold
Speaker 1: their nose and vote for him, hold their nose and
Speaker 1: vote for Mike Rogers, or hold their nose at.
Speaker 2: Home and not go out and vote.
Speaker 1: But when you talk about people outside of these blue bubbles,
Speaker 1: you're talking about black voters, and black voters, I agree,
Speaker 1: are not a monolithic block, but they absolutely understand that
Speaker 1: their wants, desires, thoughts, their importance has been pushed aside
Speaker 1: because the Democratic Party, now the Socialist Party, has said
Speaker 1: communists and Muslims are the only things that matter in
Speaker 1: the voting base. We're going to even hide things on
Speaker 1: our campaign websites so it doesn't upset them, like our
Speaker 1: thoughts on LGBTQ, etc. There is a large scale problem,
Speaker 1: and I'm asking you to kind of break it down
Speaker 1: a little bit more about how this problem is going
Speaker 1: to affect coming into November.
Speaker 3: So let me explain this to you in a structural way.
Speaker 3: The Democrat Party has long butt into the idea of
Speaker 3: intersectionality as a way of redistributing the political goods between
Speaker 3: the different grievance groups, if you will, uh in a
Speaker 3: in a woke structure, right, because Democrats are all about identity, right,
Speaker 3: So there's the black identity, there's female identity, there's you know,
Speaker 3: Jewish identity, there's you know, et cetera. And there's an
Speaker 3: intersectionality structure that goes with this. So and this is
Speaker 3: this is important in Texas. Can I interrupt you really quick?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Democrats have given up on the idea of
Speaker 1: Jewish identity. They want no Jewish identity whatsoever.
Speaker 3: Well, no, I mean, but what I was going to
Speaker 3: say is they've ranked Jewish identity at the very bottom
Speaker 3: of this intersectionality structure, right, and and for a very
Speaker 3: long time, being black was at the top of this
Speaker 3: intersectionality structure. The whole thing was called was was based
Speaker 3: on critical race theory, which was, you know that America
Speaker 3: is very racist, and so therefore you, you know, and
Speaker 3: your ethnicity is completely determinist in terms of what your
Speaker 3: outcomes aren't access to social goods, and so therefore it
Speaker 3: must be redistributed based on where you rank each group.
Speaker 3: So you had Blacks above Hispanics, for instance, which is
Speaker 3: one of the reasons why Hispanics started to leave the
Speaker 3: Democrat party. Now you've got Democrats saying no Socialists and
Speaker 3: Muslims are now at the top of this intersectionality structure,
Speaker 3: and Blacks are getting pushed down the structure.
Speaker 4: And in Texas, that's part of what happened.
Speaker 3: What's happening because Jasmine Crockett was both black and female,
Speaker 3: which in intersectionality terms should have made her top ranked
Speaker 3: in that primary, and James Tallerco as a white male,
Speaker 3: shouldn't have even run against her. And this is the
Speaker 3: reason why Jane the Jasmine Crockett has been saying ever
Speaker 3: since that the Democrats primary was racist because it violated
Speaker 3: this intersectionality structure that black voters thought was in place
Speaker 3: to advance their interests. And what you're saying is part
Speaker 3: of this, which is that the intersection structure has been
Speaker 3: completely rewritten now by the DSA and people like Hassan
Speaker 3: Piker and Islamists to say no right now, Palestine and
Speaker 3: you know, communism and socialism are now the top part
Speaker 3: of the highest priority in this intersectionality structure, and Blacks
Speaker 3: just need to shut up and get in line. And
Speaker 3: is not that didn't go over will in the Michigan primary,
Speaker 3: It's not going to go over well in Texas either.
Speaker 1: Talking to Ed Marcy of hot air dot com, listen,
Speaker 1: I don't know your schedule.
Speaker 2: Can you hang out for a few more minutes? Let
Speaker 2: me take a.
Speaker 1: Break, because we should come back to where this actually
Speaker 1: goes to, which is how do Republicans take advantage of this?
Speaker 1: Not how do they take advantage of black voters. I
Speaker 1: think a tremendous number of black voters should be Republicans. Anyway,
Speaker 1: they could make great changes in great strides. Republicans aren't bright,
Speaker 1: and they don't know how to act and interact. They
Speaker 1: don't know how to speak, and you can't think of
Speaker 1: a group as a monolithic block, but you can recognize
Speaker 1: what you're discussing, how do they go about getting these
Speaker 1: voters in this mid term? Stay right there, Ed Morrissey,
Speaker 1: hotair dot com. Stay right here, guys, This is Tony
Speaker 1: Katz today. Continue the conversation with Ed Morrissey regarding how
Speaker 1: Republicans can actually get black voters, because part of the
Speaker 1: problem with Republicans is that they are not bright, and
Speaker 1: they are afraid, and they don't know how to talk,
Speaker 1: and those are some of their finest qualities. Tony Kats,
Speaker 1: Tony Kats Today, Good to be with you. Edmarcyhotair dot
Speaker 1: com joins me, I appreciate you sticking around.
Speaker 2: For another few minutes. If we are to agree as I've.
Speaker 1: Discussed it and now you're discussing it, that the left
Speaker 1: has abandoned the black voter as a necessary talking point.
Speaker 2: That what matters, is.
Speaker 1: Hatred of Israel, pretending Palstine's a real place. These kinds
Speaker 1: of attacks the communist design because capitalism is evil. Black
Speaker 1: voters clearly said in the Michigan election for the Democratic primary, no,
Speaker 1: so what is The advice to Republicans started with Mike
Speaker 1: Rogers in Michigan. Republicans writ large, how do they go
Speaker 1: about talking to voters Democrat voters who are black and saying, Hey,
Speaker 1: I may not be perfect, but my god, I think that.
Speaker 2: You matter as an American.
Speaker 3: Well, the first thing would be to actually talk to them.
Speaker 3: I wrote about this ten years ago in my book
Speaker 3: Going Round. They don't show up read they don't show up.
Speaker 3: They don't go to the neighborhoods.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I talked about this in the book extensively. I sat
Speaker 3: down with black conservatives in these different swing counties talking
Speaker 3: about what their experience was dealing with Republicans, and they
Speaker 3: said the same thing over and over again. Republicans will
Speaker 3: open up an office six weeks before an election and
Speaker 3: pack it up about four weeks afterwards. They don't stay
Speaker 3: in the communities, they don't keep going back and talking
Speaker 3: to people. They don't ask them what their issues are
Speaker 3: They've given the thirty thousand foot talking points, and the
Speaker 3: people that I talked to who were successful in making
Speaker 3: inroads in these communities were the people who actually sat
Speaker 3: down and listened first about what the actual issues were,
Speaker 3: what their concerns were, and trying to address them while
Speaker 3: not leaving their own values behind.
Speaker 4: And you have to start with respect. It starts with respect.
Speaker 3: So if all you're doing is running advertising and not
Speaker 3: sitting down with people, you're not showing them enough respect.
Speaker 4: For them to listen to you. And so your question
Speaker 4: is a great question.
Speaker 3: I've been talking about this for ten years, and Republicans
Speaker 3: have made some changes to try to do that. There's
Speaker 3: been some better GOTV efforts, for instance, and they have
Speaker 3: people who actually stick around in the communities a little longer,
Speaker 3: but for the most part, they still haven't learned to
Speaker 3: go and talk to these voters and show them respect.
Speaker 3: If they just showed up, you might be able to
Speaker 3: peel another five percent six percent just from the fact
Speaker 3: that you showed up and talked to them and made
Speaker 3: and made them feel like they mattered.
Speaker 1: And I will say this, I I've discussed this on
Speaker 1: my morning show for years. I don't know if I've
Speaker 1: brought it here. Uh, if somebody invites me to speak
Speaker 1: at a black church, I'm going.
Speaker 2: I am there. You want me and Ed to come,
Speaker 2: I will pay for Ed's ticket.
Speaker 1: We will come and talk about these things and where
Speaker 1: we think conservatism is and why we think it matters,
Speaker 1: and and and and try and win hearts and minds
Speaker 1: to conversation.
Speaker 2: Invite.
Speaker 1: I can't just show up, that's weird. Invite. I will
Speaker 1: bring Ed, and I will wear a better shirt than
Speaker 1: he's wearing right now, and and me across So Ali,
Speaker 1: so alie, I promise no, oh, yes, yes, yes, my
Speaker 1: shirt's fine. But this is it sounds so dum, It
Speaker 1: sounds so basic. You got to actually talk to people.
Speaker 1: That is a huge part of it. Edmar Rucy, stay
Speaker 1: right there, Hot air dot com. And the book going
Speaker 1: Read you can find that at Amazon dot com wherever
Speaker 1: fine books are sold, and appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Stay right there. More is coming up. This is Tony
Speaker 2: Katz today,