WEBVTT - Tony Katz & Ed Morrissey on Thin-Skinned DSA Supporters & El-Sayed Victory

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<v Speaker 1>I don't enjoy talking about zoron Mumdani. The communist Islamists,

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<v Speaker 1>I say, Islamists. Some people are now into Islamo Marxists.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just too many, too many things. One thing picket

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<v Speaker 1>Islamis are communists. They're working together. This Red Green alliance

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<v Speaker 1>is very, very real. And when they destroy Western civilization,

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<v Speaker 1>they will fight each other and the Communists are gonna lose.

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<v Speaker 2>We all understand this right. The Communists are gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>their ass is kicked. They're gonna lose so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>They are gonna lose like Purdue against Indiana in an

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<v Speaker 1>oaken bucket game. Now, for those of you who are

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<v Speaker 1>not from here, let me say for the record, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a dig on the new athletic director, Tommy McClelland,

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<v Speaker 1>who made one of the great blunders I've ever heard,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have argued publicly that firing him is on

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<v Speaker 1>the table.

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good to be with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I will get to that. Ed R joins me right

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<v Speaker 1>now from hot air dot com. He appreciated my big

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<v Speaker 1>ten humor. I bring up, Mam Donnie, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>you like to talk about New York because it gets

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<v Speaker 1>too much play. But what's important here is that how

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<v Speaker 1>this is trying to spread across the country an election

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<v Speaker 1>after election. But it was a really interesting story in

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<v Speaker 1>Staten Island. Now Stotton Island is one of the boroughs

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<v Speaker 1>of New York where the where Mom Donnie is mayor

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<v Speaker 1>and it is has always been a conservative, if not

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<v Speaker 1>Republican stronghold. These are very pro America people and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't see themselves as the rest of New York and

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<v Speaker 1>if they could break away, they would.

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<v Speaker 2>They had an event for a local police department.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a turnout with the neighbors kind of event,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mamdani showed up and after sixty seconds of speaking

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<v Speaker 1>gets booed off the stage, gets booed off the stage.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's it's it's embarrassing, it's you Hu miliating

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<v Speaker 2>for him.

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<v Speaker 1>And then comes the story that Mom Donnie, it turns out,

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<v Speaker 1>has a very very very thin bit of skin. And

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<v Speaker 1>this was the story a front page of the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Post. Mam Donnie is thin skinned and hyper sensitive

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<v Speaker 1>and private in private, despite unflappable social media image.

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<v Speaker 2>And my argument, ed, is that's where all these communists are.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just all these Islamis are because none of them

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<v Speaker 1>can actually handle an actual discussion of what it is

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<v Speaker 1>they believe. Is there a tide turning based on what

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<v Speaker 1>you can see regarding Mam Donnie in New York and

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<v Speaker 1>is that now flowing through to the rest of the nation.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure about New York City. I'm honestly not

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<v Speaker 3>sure about whether there's a tide turning in New York

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<v Speaker 3>City or not. Think it's too early to tell, but

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we haven't had side elections or by elections

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<v Speaker 3>or anything else like that, and frankly, New York has

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<v Speaker 3>been turning kind of a radical for a while now.

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<v Speaker 3>They just nominated you know, Daria, Lizis Chevalier and a

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<v Speaker 3>couple other DSA people, you know, outright DSA people for

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<v Speaker 3>the US House, and they're going to win those districts,

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<v Speaker 3>so they'll be sitting in Congress next January unless there's

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<v Speaker 3>something really remarkable that goes on in those heavily democratic

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<v Speaker 3>districts there that's baked into the cake. So I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily sure about New York City. I do think though,

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<v Speaker 3>that we might have seen peak DSA around the country.

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<v Speaker 3>I would point to what's happening in Michigan. What happened

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<v Speaker 3>in Michigan this week, which was that you know, Abdulah

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<v Speaker 3>Sayed was supposedly had all this momentum behind him. You

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<v Speaker 3>had five different polsters that had him up by double

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<v Speaker 3>digits in a Democrat primary within two and three weeks

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<v Speaker 3>of the actual primary vote, and he barely won the nomination,

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<v Speaker 3>didn't get to fifty percent, barely won against Tiley Stephens.

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<v Speaker 3>Haley Stevens ends up winning Wayne County, which is De Troit,

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<v Speaker 3>which is remarkable that she won that county and still

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<v Speaker 3>didn't win the nomination. And that just goes to show

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<v Speaker 3>you that this is really a phenomenon that's really around

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<v Speaker 3>college towns.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've been arguing this all along, which is that

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<v Speaker 3>this is only going to work in really concentrated blue bubbles.

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<v Speaker 3>Right when you get statewide in a state like Michigan,

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<v Speaker 3>or if you want to go over to nearby Wisconsin

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<v Speaker 3>where Francesca Hang is running for the Democrat nomination for governor,

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<v Speaker 3>that's next week on.

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<v Speaker 4>Once you go statewide, that dissipates.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that because all of this stuff is

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<v Speaker 3>getting exposed about the DSA's actual agenda I mean they're

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<v Speaker 3>explicit agenda. You can look at their explicit agenda and

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<v Speaker 3>see that what they're talking about is eliminating the Senate,

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<v Speaker 3>eliminating the Presidency as we know it now, basically throwing

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<v Speaker 3>out the Constitution, going to a House of Representatives that

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<v Speaker 3>acts more like a ball up bureau, and imposing a

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<v Speaker 3>no private property type of system on America, probably by force,

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<v Speaker 3>because that's the way it it would have to proceed.

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<v Speaker 3>I think people understand now that these people are actual nuts,

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<v Speaker 3>they're radicals. And right now you're seeing the media talk

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<v Speaker 3>about this, as you know, Republicans.

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<v Speaker 4>Are doing a red scare. This isn't a red scare.

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<v Speaker 4>This is Code red, by the way, and this is real.

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<v Speaker 1>A quick thing to go over here, because this just

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<v Speaker 1>popped up on my feed as a graphic. It looks

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<v Speaker 1>a little pornographic. It's not meant to and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be pornographic with this graphic. There is a

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<v Speaker 1>red line at the top and a blue line at

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom, and the red line is l Sayed and

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<v Speaker 1>the blue line is Haley Stevens. This was the polling

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<v Speaker 1>in Michigan, and then it got closed and then it

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<v Speaker 1>spread a little bit more, and then on election day

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<v Speaker 1>it's l sayed the Islamist or the Islamist adjacent by

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<v Speaker 1>one percent. So to your point, this did not work

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<v Speaker 1>out the way any of the pollsters set it would,

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<v Speaker 1>and that we should really discuss what it is that

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting in terms of the polling.

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<v Speaker 2>And we have discussed here what a huge problem this

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<v Speaker 2>creates for else.

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<v Speaker 1>I had for the Democrats to win against Mike Rogers,

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<v Speaker 1>because Democrats the forty seven percent plus who voted for

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<v Speaker 1>Haley Stevens, who is no peach by the way, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Representative.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know how you vote for somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who gives you such incredible gems like this one.

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<v Speaker 4>A little bit of enthusiasm, a little bit of energy,

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<v Speaker 4>and a little bit of sicket to them.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't know. I don't know how you

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<v Speaker 2>do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I also don't know how you vote for a guy

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<v Speaker 1>supported by Hassan Piker.

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<v Speaker 2>I edited this pretty well. Their producer landa but finger

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<v Speaker 2>on the dumb button.

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<v Speaker 1>The RNC put this out about him talking about black voters.

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<v Speaker 4>Would black people care about Oh, black people care about this?

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<v Speaker 2>Is black people care about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Shut the fuck up?

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<v Speaker 4>That's not how politics works.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, how dare you like it or not black

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<v Speaker 2>people care about this issue. It's like, it's such a

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<v Speaker 2>stupid stance.

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<v Speaker 5>Any other black folk want to engage in radical activist

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<v Speaker 5>language in this chat?

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<v Speaker 2>Suck? Yes, dude, it's because I'm racist.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because I'm racist.

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<v Speaker 4>Dude.

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<v Speaker 5>We back to a better time when lynchings were happening.

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<v Speaker 5>This is what I like as a black man. Are

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<v Speaker 5>you always doing too much with black people? Leave them alone?

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<v Speaker 5>I want to go back to lynching, Like, I get it,

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<v Speaker 5>but'll relax, man, shut the f up. Okay, damn, you

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<v Speaker 5>got me. Okay, you got me because I'm a racist person.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you know why he lost Detroit.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a real story here.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking to edmarscyaf hotair dot com, as we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not this works in certain blue bubbles, we

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<v Speaker 1>already have l s A. Ed having a problem with

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<v Speaker 1>the Stephens voters, because the Stephens voter can either hold

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<v Speaker 1>their nose and vote for him, hold their nose and

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<v Speaker 1>vote for Mike Rogers, or hold their nose at.

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<v Speaker 2>Home and not go out and vote.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you talk about people outside of these blue bubbles,

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about black voters, and black voters, I agree,

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<v Speaker 1>are not a monolithic block, but they absolutely understand that

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<v Speaker 1>their wants, desires, thoughts, their importance has been pushed aside

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<v Speaker 1>because the Democratic Party, now the Socialist Party, has said

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<v Speaker 1>communists and Muslims are the only things that matter in

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<v Speaker 1>the voting base. We're going to even hide things on

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<v Speaker 1>our campaign websites so it doesn't upset them, like our

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on LGBTQ, etc. There is a large scale problem,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm asking you to kind of break it down

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more about how this problem is going

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<v Speaker 1>to affect coming into November.

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<v Speaker 3>So let me explain this to you in a structural way.

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<v Speaker 3>The Democrat Party has long butt into the idea of

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<v Speaker 3>intersectionality as a way of redistributing the political goods between

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<v Speaker 3>the different grievance groups, if you will, uh in a

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<v Speaker 3>in a woke structure, right, because Democrats are all about identity, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So there's the black identity, there's female identity, there's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Jewish identity, there's you know, et cetera. And there's an

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<v Speaker 3>intersectionality structure that goes with this. So and this is

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<v Speaker 3>this is important in Texas. Can I interrupt you really quick?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Democrats have given up on the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish identity. They want no Jewish identity whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, no, I mean, but what I was going to

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<v Speaker 3>say is they've ranked Jewish identity at the very bottom

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<v Speaker 3>of this intersectionality structure, right, and and for a very

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<v Speaker 3>long time, being black was at the top of this

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<v Speaker 3>intersectionality structure. The whole thing was called was was based

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<v Speaker 3>on critical race theory, which was, you know that America

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<v Speaker 3>is very racist, and so therefore you, you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>your ethnicity is completely determinist in terms of what your

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<v Speaker 3>outcomes aren't access to social goods, and so therefore it

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<v Speaker 3>must be redistributed based on where you rank each group.

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<v Speaker 3>So you had Blacks above Hispanics, for instance, which is

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<v Speaker 3>one of the reasons why Hispanics started to leave the

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<v Speaker 3>Democrat party. Now you've got Democrats saying no Socialists and

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<v Speaker 3>Muslims are now at the top of this intersectionality structure,

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<v Speaker 3>and Blacks are getting pushed down the structure.

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<v Speaker 4>And in Texas, that's part of what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>What's happening because Jasmine Crockett was both black and female,

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<v Speaker 3>which in intersectionality terms should have made her top ranked

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<v Speaker 3>in that primary, and James Tallerco as a white male,

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't have even run against her. And this is the

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<v Speaker 3>reason why Jane the Jasmine Crockett has been saying ever

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<v Speaker 3>since that the Democrats primary was racist because it violated

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<v Speaker 3>this intersectionality structure that black voters thought was in place

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<v Speaker 3>to advance their interests. And what you're saying is part

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<v Speaker 3>of this, which is that the intersection structure has been

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<v Speaker 3>completely rewritten now by the DSA and people like Hassan

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<v Speaker 3>Piker and Islamists to say no right now, Palestine and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, communism and socialism are now the top part

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<v Speaker 3>of the highest priority in this intersectionality structure, and Blacks

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<v Speaker 3>just need to shut up and get in line. And

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<v Speaker 3>is not that didn't go over will in the Michigan primary,

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<v Speaker 3>It's not going to go over well in Texas either.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking to Ed Marcy of hot air dot com, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know your schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you hang out for a few more minutes? Let

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<v Speaker 2>me take a.

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<v Speaker 1>Break, because we should come back to where this actually

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<v Speaker 1>goes to, which is how do Republicans take advantage of this?

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<v Speaker 1>Not how do they take advantage of black voters. I

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<v Speaker 1>think a tremendous number of black voters should be Republicans. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>they could make great changes in great strides. Republicans aren't bright,

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't know how to act and interact. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how to speak, and you can't think of

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<v Speaker 1>a group as a monolithic block, but you can recognize

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<v Speaker 1>what you're discussing, how do they go about getting these

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<v Speaker 1>voters in this mid term? Stay right there, Ed Morrissey,

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<v Speaker 1>hotair dot com. Stay right here, guys, This is Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Katz today. Continue the conversation with Ed Morrissey regarding how

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans can actually get black voters, because part of the

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<v Speaker 1>problem with Republicans is that they are not bright, and

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<v Speaker 1>they are afraid, and they don't know how to talk,

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<v Speaker 1>and those are some of their finest qualities. Tony Kats,

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Kats Today, Good to be with you. Edmarcyhotair dot

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<v Speaker 1>com joins me, I appreciate you sticking around.

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<v Speaker 2>For another few minutes. If we are to agree as I've.

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<v Speaker 1>Discussed it and now you're discussing it, that the left

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<v Speaker 1>has abandoned the black voter as a necessary talking point.

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<v Speaker 2>That what matters, is.

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<v Speaker 1>Hatred of Israel, pretending Palstine's a real place. These kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of attacks the communist design because capitalism is evil. Black

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<v Speaker 1>voters clearly said in the Michigan election for the Democratic primary, no,

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<v Speaker 1>so what is The advice to Republicans started with Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Rogers in Michigan. Republicans writ large, how do they go

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<v Speaker 1>about talking to voters Democrat voters who are black and saying, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I may not be perfect, but my god, I think that.

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<v Speaker 2>You matter as an American.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the first thing would be to actually talk to them.

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<v Speaker 3>I wrote about this ten years ago in my book

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<v Speaker 3>Going Round. They don't show up read they don't show up.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't go to the neighborhoods.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I talked about this in the book extensively. I sat

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<v Speaker 3>down with black conservatives in these different swing counties talking

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<v Speaker 3>about what their experience was dealing with Republicans, and they

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<v Speaker 3>said the same thing over and over again. Republicans will

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<v Speaker 3>open up an office six weeks before an election and

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<v Speaker 3>pack it up about four weeks afterwards. They don't stay

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<v Speaker 3>in the communities, they don't keep going back and talking

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<v Speaker 3>to people. They don't ask them what their issues are

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<v Speaker 3>They've given the thirty thousand foot talking points, and the

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<v Speaker 3>people that I talked to who were successful in making

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<v Speaker 3>inroads in these communities were the people who actually sat

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<v Speaker 3>down and listened first about what the actual issues were,

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<v Speaker 3>what their concerns were, and trying to address them while

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<v Speaker 3>not leaving their own values behind.

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<v Speaker 4>And you have to start with respect. It starts with respect.

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<v Speaker 3>So if all you're doing is running advertising and not

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<v Speaker 3>sitting down with people, you're not showing them enough respect.

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<v Speaker 4>For them to listen to you. And so your question

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<v Speaker 4>is a great question.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been talking about this for ten years, and Republicans

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<v Speaker 3>have made some changes to try to do that. There's

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<v Speaker 3>been some better GOTV efforts, for instance, and they have

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<v Speaker 3>people who actually stick around in the communities a little longer,

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<v Speaker 3>but for the most part, they still haven't learned to

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<v Speaker 3>go and talk to these voters and show them respect.

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<v Speaker 3>If they just showed up, you might be able to

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<v Speaker 3>peel another five percent six percent just from the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that you showed up and talked to them and made

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<v Speaker 3>and made them feel like they mattered.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will say this, I I've discussed this on

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<v Speaker 1>my morning show for years. I don't know if I've

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<v Speaker 1>brought it here. Uh, if somebody invites me to speak

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<v Speaker 1>at a black church, I'm going.

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<v Speaker 2>I am there. You want me and Ed to come,

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<v Speaker 2>I will pay for Ed's ticket.

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<v Speaker 1>We will come and talk about these things and where

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<v Speaker 1>we think conservatism is and why we think it matters,

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<v Speaker 1>and and and and try and win hearts and minds

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<v Speaker 1>to conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Invite.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't just show up, that's weird. Invite. I will

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<v Speaker 1>bring Ed, and I will wear a better shirt than

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<v Speaker 1>he's wearing right now, and and me across So Ali,

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<v Speaker 1>so alie, I promise no, oh, yes, yes, yes, my

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<v Speaker 1>shirt's fine. But this is it sounds so dum, It

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<v Speaker 1>sounds so basic. You got to actually talk to people.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a huge part of it. Edmar Rucy, stay

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<v Speaker 1>right there, Hot air dot com. And the book going

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<v Speaker 1>Read you can find that at Amazon dot com wherever

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<v Speaker 1>fine books are sold, and appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay right there. More is coming up. This is Tony

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<v Speaker 2>Katz today,