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Speaker 1: Live from the Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Signed by the President of the United States. His name

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Speaker 2: is Donald Trump. You've seen pictures. We will soon see

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Speaker 2: what is in the Epstein files. Great when a recording

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Speaker 2: to Pam Bondy in thirty days time, let's see if

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Speaker 2: let's see if she actually gets it done, because so

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Speaker 2: far I am outrageously unimpressed with Pam Bondi and it

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Speaker 2: kills me because I thought she was going to be

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Speaker 2: up to the task. Tony Katz, Tony kats today. Good

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Speaker 2: to be with you, Pam Bondy, Cash Betel. This is

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Speaker 2: not super impressive work. I'm not saying it's the worst

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Speaker 2: more information. I expected more clarity, I expected more value.

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Speaker 2: Not getting it, absolutely not getting it. But this about Epstein,

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Speaker 2: this is only part of today's story.

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Speaker 3: Today is all about my gosh, there's a lot of corruption.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you already thought the members of Congress were corrupt. Well,

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Speaker 2: holy hell, what's come out today is just nutty nutty.

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Speaker 2: Let me let me start with this story right here

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Speaker 2: about a representative in Congress who I know absolutely nothing

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Speaker 2: about her name is Sheila cherfilss McCormick. I know nothing

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Speaker 2: about the representative from Florida. It's interesting that on her district,

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Speaker 2: I mean, on her website, it's very hard to even

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Speaker 2: read what district she represents. Hold on, I think that's

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Speaker 2: the twentieth district in Florida. She's kind of like got

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Speaker 2: Central Florida. And then there's this weird tentacle that gets

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Speaker 2: Manager district to check this out. The story goes as follows.

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Speaker 2: You've got this representative. She has been indicted by a

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Speaker 2: grand jury in Miami.

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Speaker 3: Well she must have done something.

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Speaker 2: She's facing fifty three years in prison. Well, she must

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Speaker 2: have really done something. She had been under investigation from

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Speaker 2: the House Ethics Committee since December of twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what did she do?

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Speaker 2: Tony Well allegedly stole five million dollars from FEMA. I mean,

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Speaker 2: these people are shameless. According to Pambondy, this woman and

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Speaker 2: her brother conspired to steal an overpayment of five million

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Speaker 2: dollars in FEMA funds. Their family has a healthcare company,

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Speaker 2: and what was that healthcare company there to do help

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Speaker 2: people get their COVID shots.

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Speaker 3: It's at this moment I would like to remind you of.

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Speaker 2: Your blood pressure and that you should stay calm, because

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Speaker 2: you know as well as I do, anything associated with

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Speaker 2: your COVID shot was ten thousand percent going to be

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Speaker 2: a scam. You knew it before I said any words.

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Speaker 2: I feel bad for being the guy who's possibly going

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Speaker 2: to put you in a hospital.

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Speaker 3: So breathe, breathe, there you go. We're gonna get through

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Speaker 3: this together.

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Speaker 2: A healthcare company, they get paid to ensure that people

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Speaker 2: are getting their COVID shots. I assume that means they're

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Speaker 2: boosters as well boosters. That's adorable. They get overpaid by

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Speaker 2: the tune of five million dollars. It's at this moment,

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Speaker 2: in addition to being disgusted with every member of Congress

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Speaker 2: because while she's innocental proven guilty, I know you she's guilty,

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Speaker 2: innocential proven guilty the court of law, in the court

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Speaker 3: She did it. U. After you go through that.

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Speaker 2: You immediately go through how do these people know how

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Speaker 2: to set up these businesses that don't actually do anything

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Speaker 3: They have the ability to steal millions, and I never.

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Speaker 2: Once in my life had to end of that kind

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Speaker 3: How do these people all know how to do this?

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Speaker 2: It is kind of amazing, isn't it. They all know

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Speaker 2: how to get in on the grift. They all know

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Speaker 2: how to get their share of the government pie, which

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Speaker 2: is to say, your cash.

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Speaker 3: They all know.

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Speaker 2: What tipped everybody off. If you want to understand, is

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Speaker 2: it the credulousness? Is that the right word?

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Speaker 3: Here's what she did next?

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Speaker 2: Credulous ready to believe, especially on site or uncertain evidence.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's the right word. I'll come

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Speaker 3: up with a better word. Here's what she did next.

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Speaker 2: She then, in twenty twenty one, as part of her

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Speaker 2: campaign in running for Congress, she loaned herself money. How

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Speaker 2: did she do this? They routed the fronds of funds

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Speaker 2: to multiple accounts to disguise the source, and then use

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Speaker 2: a substantial portion of the misappropriated funds as candidate contributions

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Speaker 2: straw donors. Now, if you're starting to say, hey, it's

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Speaker 2: got a whiff, it's it's got a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a cent to the George Soros, doesn't it do?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, yes, yes, And George.

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Speaker 2: Soros was thrown out of the House of Representatives before

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Speaker 2: ever being found guilty of anything. So I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 2: that one could say that her career could be very

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Speaker 2: well coming to an end before it even begins. She should,

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Speaker 2: she could, and should clearly be getting a ba Felicia gone.

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Speaker 2: She loaned herself the money, I believe, all in all,

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Speaker 2: she loaned the campaign six million dollars six million, and then,

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Speaker 2: according to the FEC filings, paid herself back two point five.

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Speaker 3: Kids, do you know what it means to launder money?

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Speaker 2: How you take the dirty money and you move it

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Speaker 2: clean money. So, yeah, it was six point a six million,

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Speaker 2: it got back two point five. Maybe she'll get back more,

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Speaker 2: least this money would be untraceable. She did this with

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Speaker 2: straight face. She took the money and then ran for Congress.

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Speaker 2: I would love one time in my life, one time

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Speaker 2: for all the ego I have and all the names

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Speaker 2: I get called, I would love to have. I believe

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Speaker 2: the word is kutzba. Some people might call it moxie.

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Speaker 2: Some people might call it the testicular fortitude. However you

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Speaker 2: describe it. Oh damn, But I'm just talking about having

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Speaker 2: the gall I'm not talking about the stealing. I have

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Speaker 2: no interest in that story's nuts. And this is just

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Speaker 2: one of three stories.

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Speaker 3: You got Stacey Plaskett who was texting.

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Speaker 2: With pedophile Jeffrey Epstein and wait till you hear Jasmine

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Speaker 2: Crockett coming to her defense is so good. And then

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Speaker 2: you've got the push from Republicans like Nancy Mace to

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Speaker 2: censor Corey Mills. Wait till you hear it. The allegations

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Speaker 2: are super duper bad. And this isn't even the biggest

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Speaker 2: story because I started with Pam Bondy. I started with

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Speaker 2: my disappointment.

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Speaker 3: In Pam Bondy. Well, allow me to.

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Speaker 2: Explain how deep that disappointment goes when we get into

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Speaker 2: the conversation regarding the allegations and the indictment of James Comy,

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Speaker 2: which may all just blow up because incompetence is showing

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Speaker 2: up in a lot of ways. I'm Tony Katz, this

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Speaker 2: is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 4: Bottom line became how do I explain it enough? And

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Speaker 4: how do I make the argument enough that people can

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Speaker 4: arrive at their own conclusions about this, But in the

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Speaker 4: last two or three years that the behavior of.

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Speaker 3: Some is very, very, very dangerous.

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Speaker 2: That's Randy Winingarten you want to talk about dangerous as

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Speaker 2: she heads up the American Federations of Teachers.

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Speaker 3: Federation of Teachers.

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Speaker 5: And nobody has been more dangerous to our children than

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Speaker 5: Randy Weiningarten, who worked tirelessly to keep schools closed during

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Speaker 5: COVID and believes that teachers and union should be in

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Speaker 5: charge and not parents when it should be parents.

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Speaker 3: Well, Tony, what about the kids. Their kids, they don't

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Speaker 3: get to be in charge of anything. What's wrong with everybody.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen year old gets to be in charge? Do you

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Speaker 2: know how embarrassing it is to hear someone say.

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Speaker 3: That out loud?

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Speaker 2: Their children they should be seen and not heard. Oh,

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Speaker 2: that's wrong to say. Okay, must be children who believe that.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with You

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Speaker 2: find everything at Tony Katz dot com. That's where you

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Speaker 2: find it all. Producer land and finger on the dumb button.

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Speaker 2: Because you're talking about Randy Weingarten, You're not talking about

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Speaker 2: somebody who has a great moral compass, so you never

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Speaker 2: know she is having a conversation about what the fascists dun,

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Speaker 2: du dum.

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Speaker 4: The erasure of the civil rights movement and of equal opportunity,

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Speaker 4: the making words diversity and inclusion toxic when there was

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Speaker 4: just a civil rights survey that said eighty eight percent

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Speaker 4: of people in America believe in diversity. The attempt to balkanize,

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Speaker 4: to undermine pluralism, and the attempt to stop teachers from

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Speaker 4: in schools all across America, not just pre K through twelve,

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Speaker 4: but in higher education, from teaching critical thinking and problem solving.

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Speaker 2: You don't teach critical thinking and problem solving. Let me

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Speaker 2: say it again, you do not teach critical thinking and

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Speaker 2: problem solving. That's not what you do. You teach bigotry.

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Speaker 2: That's what DEI is. Diversity is good, DEI is bad.

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Speaker 2: Do you see the difference? Racism is bad, Anti racism

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Speaker 2: is also bad because it is actually racism.

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Speaker 3: I don't give a good Holy damn what Ebram Kenny said.

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Speaker 3: He lies.

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Speaker 2: Millions and millions and millions of dollars to set up

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Speaker 2: Boston College or Boston University only to find out they

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Speaker 3: That's what happened.

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Speaker 2: Diversity solid. But our strength is not our diversity. That's

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Speaker 2: a lie. Our strength is a belief in the Constitution

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Speaker 2: Stop what tony aah, I'll leave that for others.

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Speaker 3: Diversity is our strength.

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Speaker 2: It's a very very ignorant, ignorant thing to say, what

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Speaker 3: Orwell was a wars? Peace?

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Speaker 2: And all those kinds of things. That's eluding me at

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Speaker 2: the moment. Diversity is not our strength. Strength is our strength.

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Speaker 2: A belief in the Constitution is our strength. Understanding that

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Speaker 2: Thinking that men could be women and allowing them into this,

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Speaker 2: leading to their death and you should be the one

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Speaker 2: shouldn't be allowed near children. In my view, what a

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Speaker 2: think President Trump has put together a very good cabinet.

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Speaker 2: I think Sean Duffy, Transportation Secretary, has been outstanding, outstanding.

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Speaker 2: I think that Pete Hegseth has been very, very good.

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Speaker 2: But the idea that this is going to be a

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Speaker 2: is lethal and lethality matters, and standards matter, and to

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Speaker 2: do away with anything that Randy Weingarten might be in

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Speaker 2: favor of, I'm with, I'm down, I'm there. I think

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Speaker 2: think Howard Lutnik has been great. But I can't tell

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Speaker 2: and I'm very glad.

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Speaker 3: He's there, very glad, even people like Robert F. Kennedy Junior.

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Speaker 2: When Donald Trump was president first term, there's Alexandria Cassio

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Speaker 2: I'm only noticing what it is you did and what

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Speaker 2: It's not my problem for noticing I notice that Achem

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Speaker 2: Now, when you listen to Stacy Plaskett try and explain this.

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Speaker 8: So, Jeffrey Epstein was a constituent. He was a resident

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Speaker 2: You knew what he was and you texted with him.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, That's what happened. It's as clear as day.

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Speaker 2: You did this. Stacy Plaskett should have been censured. Now

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Speaker 2: we will get more into that. We have already discussed it.

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Speaker 3: And so when you hear Hakim.

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Speaker 2: Jeffries say we will not unilaterally disarm, understand he sees

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Speaker 2: He only cares how he can hurt somebody else. Understand

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Speaker 3: The voice of the Democratic.

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Speaker 2: Party, explain that Jasmine Crockett, well, no, she's Jasmine Crockett,

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Speaker 2: that's Stacy Plaskett did absolutely nothing wrong in speaking with

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Speaker 3: Really, it's all the faults of Donald Trump, don't you know.

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Speaker 6: This is Crockett, maybe you don't think she should be

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Speaker 7: So I'm not going to necessarily say that that's the case. Now,

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Speaker 3: We know about the birthday car.

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Speaker 7: The bigger question is why is the President of the

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Speaker 7: committee because he decided to text her. Stacy didn't initiate

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I get emails from someone claiming to be a

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Speaker 3: Doesn't mean I respond.

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Speaker 2: I got a text message saying that I've got a

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Speaker 2: And then I respond, go blank, your mother, you want.

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Speaker 3: To see my texts?

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Speaker 2: I want to see all the texts between Stacy and Jeffrey,

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Speaker 2: not just these. Does it matter if he initiated You're

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Speaker 3: You know, oh, to be a problem.

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Speaker 2: It is a weak defense being given by Jasmine Crockett.

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Speaker 2: But what could one expect, Well, one could expect that

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Speaker 7: Who also took money from somebody named Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 3: As I had my.

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Speaker 2: So that is Jasmine Crockett who started by saying, let's

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Speaker 3: Let's hear it again.

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Speaker 6: Today in recent days, yesterday and you talked about Republicans

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Speaker 7: Here comes who also took money from somebody named Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 7: As I had my team dig in very quickly, met Romney,

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Speaker 2: Now she says, from somebody named Jeffrey Epstein. Now we

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Speaker 6: You mentioned to Lee Zelden there, he's now a cabinet secretary.

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Speaker 6: He responded and said it was actually doctor Jeffrey Epstein,

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Speaker 6: who's a doctor that doesn't have any relation to the

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Speaker 6: convicted sex tracker. Unfortunate for that doctor, but that is

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Speaker 6: who do it to a prior campaign of his. Do

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Speaker 6: you want to correut the record on the peopleson I

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Speaker 6: never Now it.

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Speaker 2: Is clear what she said, and it's clear what she intimated.

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Speaker 3: What she said was.

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Speaker 2: Listen to all the other people who took money from

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Speaker 2: UH one Jeffrey Epstein. Now she's about to try and

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Speaker 2: explain herself away.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 6: Do you want to correct the record on the people Deedson.

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Speaker 7: I never said that it was that Jeffrey Epstein, just

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Speaker 7: so that people understand when you make a donation, your

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Speaker 7: picture is not there. And because they decided to bring

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Speaker 7: this on us in real time, I wanted the Republicans

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Speaker 7: to think about what could potentially happen because I knew that.

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Speaker 7: They didn't even try to go through the FEC. So

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Speaker 7: my team, what they did is they googled, and that

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Speaker 7: is specifically why I said a Jeffrey Epstein. Unlike Republicans,

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Speaker 7: you did not say a Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 2: You said one Jeffrey Epstein. It was Caitlyn Collins who

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Speaker 2: said a Jeffrey Epstein. And more importantly, my god, do

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Speaker 2: you hate everybody around you if you think they're gonna

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Speaker 2: believe that or buy into that or should buy into that.

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Speaker 2: You unbelievable, despicable fraud. Please Democrats more Jasmine Crockett, Please.

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Speaker 3: Who believes this?

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Speaker 2: Who buys into this? She goes on to CNN and

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Speaker 2: makes this claim, Oh, I was just talking about anybody

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Speaker 2: named Jeffrey Epstein. You see, it just proves what the

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Speaker 2: Republicans were doing.

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Speaker 7: I at least don't go out and just tell lies

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Speaker 7: because it was not the same one.

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Speaker 3: That's fine.

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Speaker 7: But when Lee Zelden had something to say, all he

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Speaker 7: had to say was it was different, different Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 7: He admitted that he did receive donations from a Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 7: So at least I wasn't trying to mislead people.

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Speaker 3: Now what you know? You know I do this show,

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Speaker 3: I smoke a cigar. It's clear I have to start

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Speaker 3: drinking bourbon.

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Speaker 2: Every time she talks. We have to start drinking. Do

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Speaker 2: you want to hear that again? Or would that be

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Speaker 2: too frustrated? You know what some of you are driving.

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Speaker 2: I apologize. I should have warned you, I should have

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Speaker 2: worn I should have been better, be like, hey, hands on.

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Speaker 3: Ten and two.

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Speaker 2: But I told you it was Jasmine Crockett. You knew

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Speaker 2: it was gonna be something. Do you want to hear

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Speaker 2: that again?

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Speaker 3: Here? Here you go.

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Speaker 7: This is the convoluted logic because it was not the

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Speaker 7: same one.

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Speaker 3: That's fine.

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Speaker 7: But when Lee Zelden had something to say, all he

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Speaker 7: had to say was it was a.

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Speaker 3: Different, different Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 7: He admitted that he did receive donations from a Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 7: So at least I wasn't trying to mislead people.

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Speaker 3: The only thing you were trying to do is mislead people.

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Speaker 3: That was it.

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Speaker 2: That was the totality of what you did. Oh good lord,

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Speaker 2: Just a reminder. None of these people seem to care

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Speaker 2: about children being sex trafficked. I mean, through all the joking,

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Speaker 2: that's the horror show here, a real horror show. I'm

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz and this is Tony Kats.

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Speaker 3: Today fought for Western civilization.

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Speaker 6: And Scott, you know, the President announced tonight he signed

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Speaker 6: this bill. We showed how many times he signed other

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Speaker 6: bills on camera. Why don't you think he signed this

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Speaker 6: one in front of reporters.

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Speaker 9: Well, look, I mean I think that he just wants

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Speaker 9: to get this over with at this point. I mean,

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Speaker 9: it's been a little bit of a whippleash on you

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Speaker 9: know where they've been on it, and so he says, Okay, fine,

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Speaker 9: vote for it. All the Republicans vote for it, and

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Speaker 9: now it's.

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Speaker 3: Going to come out. I don't know.

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Speaker 9: I don't know that you need any fanfare around it.

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Speaker 3: I did read his statement just before we.

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Speaker 9: Came on, and his position has been quite I agree

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Speaker 9: with him. The hoax here is that Democrats have tried

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Speaker 9: to make this a story about Trump and Epstein.

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Speaker 2: But is it a story about Trump and Epstein? What

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Speaker 2: say you, Scott Jennings.

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Speaker 9: But the reality is it may turn up being a

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Speaker 9: story about Democrats and.

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Speaker 2: Ev it's a greater story than that, and the fact

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Speaker 2: that we have to keep going over it is something else.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: I wanted the files released in and now released. But

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Speaker 2: the conversation from Caitlin Collins is why didn't he sign

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Speaker 2: it on camera? That's not news, that's not a thing.

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Speaker 2: That part doesn't matter. It is what can we find?

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Speaker 3: What can we do? What can we notice or say

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Speaker 3: or or bring up? Ah see, see, this is this

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Speaker 3: is proof of what.

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Speaker 2: When the story comes out, Will these people be in

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Speaker 2: favor of throwing anyone in jail? That's the question.

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Speaker 3: And I haven't seen any proof that they will be

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Speaker 3: none at all.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I was on Newsmax yesterday and I

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Speaker 2: was discussing the fact that the data has shown, and

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Speaker 2: we've discussed it here, that the trans fad is falling away. Yes,

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Speaker 2: there are people who clinically have what the American Psychiatric

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Speaker 2: Association refers to its gender dysphoria. But it's very clear

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Speaker 2: that claiming to be trans was all about attention, It

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Speaker 2: was all about social contagion, and it is falling away.

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Speaker 2: And there's this city councilor who's a man who claims

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Speaker 2: to be a woman who was charged with indecent exposure,

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Speaker 2: and the lawyers are saying, well, blah can't be in

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Speaker 2: decent exposure because men are not prosecuted for going topless.

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Speaker 2: So he claims to be a woman, engages an indecent

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Speaker 2: exposure and now it's well, no, it's actually a man.

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Speaker 3: All the game, all of it. This is Tony Katch Today,