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Speaker 6: To talk about the great personalities, names, figures, historical marks

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Speaker 6: of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Jake Querry, along with Mike

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Speaker 6: Thompson has Landon Coons puts it all together for us tonight. Mike,

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Speaker 6: you have once again dipped into your rolodex of or

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Speaker 6: people still enjoy talking about from a number of different areas.

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Speaker 6: Talking about somebody who was very prolific in the early

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Speaker 6: seventies at Ims and salt Walter.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he has something in common with the person

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Speaker 4: we talked about last night, Tim Richmond, because they're both

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Speaker 4: from Ohio and they both drove in both Indy Cars

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Speaker 6: So in other words, Mike as in Ohio and you're

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Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 8: So now we've got to get ed Pam on the show.

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Speaker 4: And Bobby ray Hall drove like a couple of NASCAR

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Speaker 6: Saltwalter made his debut in nineteen seventy two in the

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Speaker 6: He did not complete a lap, and then in nineteen

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Speaker 6: and that, Mike realistically, was an accident that impacted Saltwalter

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Speaker 6: it was heard in scene. I guess you would say

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Speaker 9: He doesn't look I can received it. Last year start,

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Speaker 9: how is the card, and here they come.

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Speaker 10: Bobby's been right for the lays. Donnie Ruther be right

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Speaker 10: alongside him. Brother, we're down home. But Bobby, what's a

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Speaker 10: terrible fact of the all friend? The several cards and bars.

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Speaker 10: for the car who was in the middle of the fields.

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Speaker 2: For where minerable thing.

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Speaker 11: Ok this is when everyone is beared.

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Speaker 11: Terrible as the spir of beer here all weekend long.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the driver craving, he might be on fire.

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Speaker 12: That man waits waving.

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Speaker 11: You can't see nuphole fire.

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Speaker 9: Those explosions are not cars. Those are the bombs overheads

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Speaker 9: The wire fence right here on the straightaway was ripped apart.

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Speaker 9: We almost had an automobile go into the crowd. And

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Speaker 9: But watch, there's a car going starting to the right

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Speaker 6: Mike, that accident was a significant one because of the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he spent several months in the hospital. He was

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Speaker 6: He was back in nineteen seventy four. As Mike had

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Speaker 1: Salt actually had a top ten finish. He was ninth

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Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy six. Admittedly that was a race that

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Speaker 1: And he was involved in a multiple accident, and so

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Speaker 6: In nineteen seventy five, Walter dropped out early again in

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Speaker 6: Donald Davidson again, this time with the story of Salt

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Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy five, Bob Harkey drove the second car,

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Speaker 1: we're going to you in Bob Harkey and then Shalt's

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Speaker 1: Salt was the first one out in nineteen seventy five,

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Speaker 1: But what the records don't normally show. Typically the boxcle

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Speaker 1: seeing that when Salt, very very animated fashion signaled to

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Speaker 2: He was quite adamantly. He put his.

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Speaker 1: He did this like a semi circular motion with his

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Speaker 1: bring him in now. And so in came home, he

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Speaker 2: Quite a bit of time.

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Speaker 1: And I just think that although it ended up Bob

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Speaker 2: But Salt was was calling the shots, Mike.

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Speaker 6: The reality is the late Bob Harky didn't have a

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Speaker 7: And you found that out through an interview. Correct, that's right.

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Speaker 4: I got the chance to sit down Bob Harky, who

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Speaker 4: driving for the Walther team in nineteen seventy five, both

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Speaker 3: Well, they did the same thing at Poconon, and I

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Speaker 3: was mad at Salt and he told me to ask

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Speaker 3: drive my car at Poconon And I told him where.

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Speaker 7: Well, then he told me.

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Speaker 3: He says, oh, you can have all the money. There's

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Speaker 3: Down the straight away, I'm looking at over two and

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Speaker 6: Salt Walter was one of those that, again as we

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Speaker 6: Speedway but we're talking about one of the real personalities

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Speaker 6: track overcame adversity to a great. Extent mike he missed the,

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Speaker 6: show Did Salt walter in nineteen seventy, Seven but he

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Speaker 4: Will, no he was definitely around the action all the,

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Speaker 4: time and there were some interesting. Stories, obviously we heard

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Speaker 4: the story in the last block About Bob harkey's issue

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Speaker 4: donald on Talking gasolene ally several, times told this next,

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Speaker 4: tells talking about nineteen seventy seven When james McElreath was

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Speaker 4: trying to become the First father and son in the.

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Speaker 4: Race they actually were on the track, together But James

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Speaker 4: mcaree didn't make the. Race but they were trying to

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Speaker 4: and so there might have been a little bit of

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Speaker 4: gamesmanship involved with Jim mcareath And James mcareth and Salt

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Speaker 7: Race and this is simply known as the hotel bill.

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Speaker 1: Story seventy seven was the year That james was at

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Speaker 1: Edgers they were the first to drive against each other

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Speaker 1: Jimmy was driving For carillo And james was driving four

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Speaker 1: Salt walter had been. Bumped this was the this was the.

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Speaker 1: Thing Salt walter had had been, bumped and he had

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Speaker 1: there was sort of some people will disgruntled that why

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Speaker 1: make it and somebody else can go but. Back jimmy

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Speaker 1: asking why you left him out there and he, said,

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Speaker 1: it but he, said we're going to come back next

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Speaker 1: going around that when you drove for The walther family

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Speaker 1: At pocono two three years ago and there was some

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Speaker 1: Payback And jimmy, says, oh, no, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 1: No we just Wanted james to get the. Experience so,

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Speaker 1: anyway they go in opposite directions and Then marquette turns

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Speaker 1: around and, says, Hey, jimmy how much was the bill

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Speaker 1: and he says four hundred and thirty seven dollars at

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Speaker 2: That, anyway.

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Speaker 7: So always a fun.

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Speaker 6: Time you kind of, Love, mike the fact that back,

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Speaker 6: then even the biggest of, competitors there was always some

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Speaker 6: it still happens to an extent, today but you, know

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Speaker 6: it's always interesting to hear the kind of behind the

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Speaker 4: Time, yeah definitely a little bit of LIKE i, said

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Speaker 4: there was a little bit of games have been shipped,

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Speaker 4: there AND i enjoyed When donald tells those kind of

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Speaker 4: about going back to the old Talking ghasoley now his

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Speaker 6: Now one of the things also about drivers from that

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Speaker 6: a lot of them were willing to race anything just

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Speaker 6: to kind of get that. Bug that Included Salt, walter

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Speaker 6: who was willing to drive more than Just indy.

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Speaker 4: Cars, mike that's, right he drove in The daytona five,

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Speaker 4: The daytona five. Hundred he had four starts IN, nascar

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Speaker 4: he HAD i think his best finished was twelfth and

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Speaker 4: so he you, know he dabbled than a lot of.

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Speaker 4: Things but he was also very well known driving and

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Speaker 4: unlimited hydroplane boat racing as. Well so you, Know salt

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Speaker 4: had his hand in a number of different parts of

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Speaker 4: racing for, sure and was a versatile competitor and was always.

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Speaker 4: FAST i, mean that's one thing you can say About Salt.

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Speaker 4: Walter he was always.

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Speaker 8: Fast may not have lasted all all five hundred miles

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Speaker 8: all the, time but he was always.

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Speaker 6: Fast, now one, Thing, mike when you talk about, competitors

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Speaker 6: it wasn't necessarily by design that anybody should have tried

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Speaker 6: to compete with the fabulous. Interview that's one of the

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Speaker 6: favorites of beyond the bricks From yak And rent in

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Speaker 6: any five. Hundred, now can you recount for me real

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Speaker 6: quick how the yach And rent interview, Went, Mike, yeah you.

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Speaker 4: Know The Yachen rent interview With Luke walton is one

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Speaker 4: of the classics of all, time, certainly and it is

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Speaker 4: my favorite. Interview you, know what'd you think of the five?

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Speaker 4: Hundred not much coming back next year new not coming,

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Speaker 4: back but he dad you back to you and The tower,

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Speaker 4: said but he did go? Back was the irony?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 8: Exactly you did come.

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Speaker 4: Back and what's interesting is is somebody sent me this

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Speaker 4: interview that we're about to play with Salt, walter which

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Speaker 4: is almost at the level of the Achen ran.

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Speaker 8: INTERVIEW i, mean this is going to be in the

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Speaker 4: Couple it doesn't knock the Aachen ren interview off the top,

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Speaker 4: spot but this is definitely in the kind of inner

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Speaker 4: circle of the top interviews.

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Speaker 8: Of all time from The Beyond. Bricks so this IS

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Speaker 8: i think you're really going to like this.

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Speaker 6: One nineteen seventy, eight Salt walter qualified twenty second but

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Speaker 6: only lasted twenty four laps in The indianapolis five hundred

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Speaker 6: and then afterwards ABC's tape delayed broadcast With Tommy smith this.

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Speaker 6: Interview the interviewer Is Bill, fleming and the individual that

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Speaker 6: subject of it Was Tommy.

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Speaker 7: Smith saltier have problem rhythm from beginning.

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Speaker 8: Today what Happened.

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Speaker 13: I've always taken all the, excuses AND i, said our team,

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Speaker 13: goop And i've always covered up for a chief. Mechanic

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Speaker 13: but if anyone gets it this, year It's Tommy.

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Speaker 11: SMITH i ran one hundred and ninety eight in his

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Speaker 11: seven the practice get ready to.

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Speaker 13: Qualified And tommy changed the entire frontal system last.

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Speaker 11: Night the night before. Racing Only adion would do.

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Speaker 11: Either he, Goes i'm going with another team right off

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Speaker 11: the bat and The prontle store right up with one into.

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Speaker 11: ONE i had to stand on the brakes here much

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Speaker 13: Car and going down words not he just don't do.

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Speaker 13: It our best Team i've ever had was selected. Him

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Speaker 13: they've done a great. Job tommy still gonna let, Go

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Speaker 13: And i'm not making any shoes And i'm not driving

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Speaker 11: Day here they all These fisher's gonna go out at

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Speaker 11: the end of the. Race we're gonna be, There So

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Speaker 11: i'm not. Quitting we're gonna be. There if you're not

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Speaker 11: gonna fire him, here you're not gonna fire him here After,

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Speaker 11: Now tommy's not working on a car.

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Speaker 13: Anymore it's not that things. FIRING i begged the MAN

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Speaker 13: i put up with him since nineteen seventy.

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Speaker 11: Two he won't. Listen you don't make changes the night before.

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Speaker 11: Race you just don't do. IT i hop to six top,

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Speaker 11: drivers we do not do. It but he does.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely in Since Salt walter and we Understand Tommy smith

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Speaker 9: has left the pit although they're still working on the,

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Speaker 9: car and is picking up his gear and Gasoline alley

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Speaker 9: is gonna leave the race.

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Speaker 4: Track probably a good, idea, Right, MIKE i would. Think

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Speaker 4: so after, THAT i don't think he was necessarily welcome

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Speaker 4: in the pit. Anymore that was one of the more

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Speaker 4: incredible Interviews i've ever.

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Speaker 7: Heard you.

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Speaker 6: Know somebody, said AND i, LISTEN i take the crap

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Speaker 6: all the, time And i'm listening to. It and in

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Speaker 6: this particular case and beyond the, Bricks mike changed the

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Speaker 6: entire rundown the night before we're supposed to. Record And

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Speaker 6: i'm not gonna do it. Anymore and he's. Fired and

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Speaker 6: If i'm gone or he's, gone.

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Speaker 8: WELL i MEAN i do change the rundown a lot

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Speaker 8: AND i catch a heat for all.

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Speaker 4: Time now here's the, thing, though but IF i, walk

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Speaker 4: we don't have a whole lot of a show anymore

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Speaker 4: BECAUSE i walk with all the.

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Speaker 7: Audio that's. True you, leave you take the Whole you

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Speaker 7: get in the car and drive, off And i'm, right,

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Speaker 7: well now it's just me talking for an.

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Speaker 8: Hour there goes, that right, exactly there you.

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Speaker 6: Go both of us Know mike did if the if

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Speaker 6: for some reason something happened to this, program neither one

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Speaker 6: of us could do it without the other. One but

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Speaker 6: that's not necessarily the case With, saltwalter because he did

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Speaker 6: have opportunity to try to venture, elsewhere right or look

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Speaker 4: Year, well what's interesting is, he on The talk Of

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Speaker 4: Gasoline alley With Kevin claboro talks about a kind of

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Speaker 4: an unusual trade his family made With Roger.

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Speaker 8: Penske and right after the, Clip i'll tell you something.

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Speaker 8: ELSE i talked To saltwalter himself about a trade he

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Speaker 8: says he.

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00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 4: Made so here's the clip From kevin collabor And salt

442
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 4: in nineteen seventy nine for The talk Of Gasoline.

443
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 12: Alley give us a story of that race. Car it's

444
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 12: a beauty and it Was Roger penskey's AS i, understand.

445
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 14: Well it was a good. Idea we had my dad

446
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 14: and my Brother. Jeff we had bought Two boxer five Twelve,

447
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 14: ferraris and that's one of the fastest cars now in the.

448
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 2: World it's about one.

449
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 14: Hundred and eighty five one hundred and ninety mile on our,

450
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 14: car And roger had had one and unfortunately one of

451
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 14: it was damaged pretty, badly, okay and they had a

452
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 14: deal where we decided since he had the, car that

453
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 14: maybe he could use another one the other one was

454
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 14: damaged so. Severely but the actual part of the, story

455
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 14: a lot of people don't even. Know we traded The

456
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 14: ferrari for The penskey race. Car and, then to be quite,

457
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 14: honest And, roger to me is one of the greatest businessmen,

458
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 14: going and They dad and he kept dickering back and

459
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 14: forth on a. Price AND i don't know if it

460
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 14: Was roger Or dad or maybe his Brother, jeff that,

461
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 14: Said i'll tell you what for the extra five, Grand

462
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 14: we'll flip a.

463
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 8: Coin we flipped a coin and we.

464
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 14: Won and it's the only time in my life or

465
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 14: dad's Are, jeff that we ever won anything other than boat.

466
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 14: Races it was it was an interesting story And roger

467
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 14: their people have been just, tremendous which he always. Is

468
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 14: but we're just having a little bit of trouble with

469
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 14: our car geting up to speed because the car that

470
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 14: we actually are running now is a it's A pc

471
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 14: six and it's very similar To Rick, meres but the

472
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 14: car had never been. Raced this was the last car

473
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 14: of the. Tub the whole thing was put together kind

474
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 14: of in a, hurry and we've just had a lot

475
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 14: of little problems with. It but they're giving us a

476
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 14: hand and a lot of people were helping, us SO

477
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 14: i think we'll be in good shape.

478
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 8: Tomorrow so it's interesting about that.

479
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 4: Clip you, know he talks about the trade he made

480
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 4: his family made With roger Pens but THEN i actually

481
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 4: met Salt water one time and he told me about

482
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 4: the fact that this was his. Claim he says that

483
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 4: the car that he was critically injured in in nineteen seventy,

484
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 4: three he claims that that was actually the nineteen seventy

485
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,719
Speaker 4: two winning car That Mark donahue had driven to victory

486
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 4: Or Roger. Penske, yeah he told me that flat out

487
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 4: and he said, that you, know he was critically injured

488
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 4: in that, car and the remnants of that car the

489
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 4: LAST i heard were.

490
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 8: At The Henry Ford museum In, Dearborn.

491
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 4: Michigan so he told me that the car that you

492
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 4: would see in the facility in the infield is not

493
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 4: the actual winning, car because he, SAID i was driving

494
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 4: the winning car the next year and got up in

495
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 4: the fence and it got, destroyed and it's not basically

496
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 4: that the winning car is not intact. Anymore so that

497
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 4: again take that for. Whether, Unfortunately assault's not here anymore

498
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 4: with us to talk to him about, it but that's flat.

499
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 4: Out what he told me was that they had bought

500
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 4: the winning car after the seventy two, season.

501
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 6: And with That Salt, walter you, know you had the

502
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 6: situation where he was unhappy and then he proposes the

503
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 6: trade and he's driving In Mark donahue's, car and you,

504
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 6: know there was so much versatility that we talked. About

505
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 6: that versatility Actually mike carried itself to an, extent not

506
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 6: just from the race, car but, also as is the

507
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 6: case we see with a lot of athletes in particularly

508
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 6: in the, seventies into a fledgling acting. Career, correct that's.

509
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 4: Right he, again on that same episode Of The Talker

510
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 4: Gasoline alley in nineteen seventy, nine he Told Kevin collaboro

511
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 4: that he was going to be doing some acting and

512
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 4: talked about how he was getting into. Doing he wanted

513
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 4: to actually do some some announcing on for, example on

514
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 4: like The Speedway Radio network and things like.

515
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 8: That he wanted to be a driver. Analyst but he

516
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 8: also talked about his his fledgling acting career in this clip.

517
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 12: It's a twenty nine past the r IN wibc saal

518
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 12: do you're doing some broadcasting hero his, edge sort of

519
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 12: a hobby something you just kind of got into With

520
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 12: chet there to do maybe in the.

521
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 14: Future, WELL i Think i'd like to do in the.

522
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 14: Future you, KNOW i did it With chet topic And

523
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 14: i've always WHEN i embraced the, BOATS i was always

524
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 14: doing quite a bit of talking on the. Microphone but

525
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 14: THEN i got into this deal WHERE i got out

526
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 14: to move out To Beverly hills In hollywood about three years,

527
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 14: ago AND i got an offer to do one of

528
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 14: The Rockford. Files but they, said first you get to

529
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 14: go and you get to take acting. Lessons SO i

530
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 14: took acting, lessons dramatic, lessons and then they showed The

531
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 14: it took us two days to the filming In, california

532
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 14: and the program was SHOWN i Think march. Sixteenth and

533
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 14: now since that, Happened i've got a chance to do

534
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 14: three or four more shows out, there And i'm looking

535
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 14: right now at a major motion picture as a co

536
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 14: starring with a couple of pretty big. Names so it

537
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 14: was a good move to move out there for. Me

538
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 14: it's help quite a.

539
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 12: Bit Super i'm glad to hear That i've never known

540
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 12: a movie.

541
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 2: STAR i don't.

542
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 8: Either let's go back to The.

543
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 12: Phonts go ahead and pick up the red phone and

544
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 12: we'll be.

545
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 7: On the air here, Now.

546
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 6: Mike if we're talking about great television shows and great

547
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 6: television of the, seventies you, KNOW i remember a couple of,

548
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 6: Shows The Incredible. HULK i remember my sister always felt

549
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 6: bad for Doctor David. BANNER i think was his, name

550
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 6: played By Bill, bixby If i'm not. Mistaken one of

551
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 6: the other shows from That Different strokes was just after.

552
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 6: That dukes Of hazzard was, massive and everybody Loved bow

553
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 6: And Luke. Duke but then you get a little bit,

554
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,959
Speaker 6: older AND i mean everybody Loved Daisy duke, too.

555
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 7: RIGHT i think that's.

556
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 4: ACCURATE i know WHEN i was a, kid we watched that,

557
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 4: show AND i know my dad did not watch the

558
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 4: show For.

559
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 8: Bowl And Luke.

560
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 4: Duke my dad probably tuned in For daisy as my.

561
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 4: Guests he stuck it out For, DAISY i, think so,

562
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 4: yeah that was that was a pretty big show. Though

563
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 4: The friday nights actually had some pretty big time. Shows you,

564
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 4: Know dallas was on On friday, nights AND i Think

565
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 4: Falcon crest was on On fridays And misfits Of. SCIENCE

566
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 4: i know you liked that one With Courtney cox that

567
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 4: that was a big hit in the eighties as well

568
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 4: On friday.

569
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 8: Nights so, YEAH i. Agree dukes Of hazzard, though it

570
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 8: was a pretty big hit when it was.

571
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 6: On So duke's Have hazard With Catherine bach As Daisy

572
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 6: duke and and once Again mike had to Literally mike

573
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 6: had a forklift over at the house to lift up

574
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 6: all of the audio archives he had to go through

575
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 6: in order to get to this. Clip this Is Salt

576
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 6: walter on The dukes Of hazard With catherine back And

577
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 6: salt playing And Mike hazard in all capital letters an

578
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 6: evil truck driver and.

579
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 8: That's one sure fire away to stop a trip.

580
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 11: Everybody. Home why'd y'all come in and find?

581
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 8: Out this would be my lucky. Day you're gonna give

582
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 8: you a? Hand, well you sure, Can, sugar but only

583
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 8: with the.

584
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 11: Car, now this muffler is right on, Something, Scars i'm

585
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 11: afraid you could pop.

586
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 2: On where can you hear?

587
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 10: That?

588
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 2: Form the?

589
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 14: HONEY i reckon like you just about anything for, it aren't?

590
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 11: You?

591
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 2: Sweet you're not to the? Roader okay by?

592
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 8: ME i just don't know how to thank.

593
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 4: YOU i.

594
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: Con second, THOUGHT i do know how to thank.

595
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 8: You next time you get stopped by the hazard sheriff for.

596
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 2: Speeding just mention my. NAME i kind of here's my?

597
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 8: Daddy like, It sugar Or Papa?

598
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 11: Pappa, well what's the? Difference either?

599
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 14: Way you'll be back in a shotgun and carry a.

600
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 14: Nastagram SO i Guess i'll just be moving, on.

601
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: HAVEN'T i?

602
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 7: Say? Shit i'll tell you, Something.

603
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 6: Mike The, Emmy grammy And oscars And tony's were all

604
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,479
Speaker 6: lined up for that, one, Right.

605
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 4: YEAH i Think Salt walter had a shot at being an,

606
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 4: egot as Did Catherine bach for that.

607
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 8: Scene that Was that was some fine television right.

608
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 7: There you, know when it comes to the.

609
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 6: Crossover from actors In hollywood and, television the silver, screen

610
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 6: the big, screen the little, screen all of. IT i

611
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 6: think the first person that you think of when it

612
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 6: comes to The Indianapolis Motor, speedway and certainly we have talked,

613
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 6: About i'm sure in the past With beyond The, bricks

614
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 6: is that Of James, garner who you AND i have talked, About.

615
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 6: Mike and while obviously you KNOW i didn't Know James,

616
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 6: garner he is one person that AND i think it's

617
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 6: worth pointing, out and you tell me if you agree

618
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 6: or disagree with, this but in being able to be

619
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 6: around or talk to people at The Indianapolis Motor speedway

620
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 6: that were around at the time That James garner was regularly,

621
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 6: around both as a fan driving the pace car and

622
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 6: a number of, CAPACITIES i have never heard anything anything

623
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 6: other than That James garner was as fine and, decent a,

624
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 6: gentleman a human, being and just a down to, earth,

625
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 6: humble fun loving guy as anybody that's ever come across

626
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,479
Speaker 6: The Indianapolis Motor. Speedway i've never heard anything other than.

627
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 6: That when talking about the guy that played In Rockford,

628
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 6: files OH i.

629
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 8: AGREE i mean he was absolute. Gentleman he couldn't have been.

630
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 4: NICER i actually met him a couple of, times AND

631
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 4: i actually got him to sign a a picture one

632
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 4: time of him from the Movie Grand, Prix and AS

633
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 4: i THINK i mentioned on the, show one, TIME i

634
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 4: was quoting him lines from the. Movie and that seems

635
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 4: kind of corny when you think about it, now but

636
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 4: he actually got a kick out of it THAT.

637
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 8: I knew the exact line from the movie THAT i

638
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 8: WAS i was quoting.

639
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 4: Him and So i've never heard a negative thing About James.

640
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 4: Garner he seemed to really enjoy. It he seemed To

641
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 4: he did a lot of personal, appearances you, know he

642
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 4: took to being in the kind of insider racing, club

643
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 4: and he came back a number of times just because

644
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 4: he loved it so. Much So i've only heard positive

645
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 4: things About James, garner and my experiences were very positive as.

646
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 7: Well walter as vern the mechanic On The Rockford.

647
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: FILES i don't like the Way Channel verne something hold it.

648
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 11: BACK i ran on one thirteen it just a few minutes.

649
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 14: Ago that's an awful good.

650
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: Speed i'm, tony it's dragging his. Butt Mister. Koons there's

651
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: not a car.

652
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 8: That could touch it out.

653
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,479
Speaker 14: There that's as good as.

654
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 11: Speakers we're going to get.

655
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: WELL i want to. Hear just keep.

656
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 9: It but if Mary in or her attorneys come, around

657
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 9: it's a lemon right riddled with, problem take around and

658
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 9: come times all the way.

659
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 6: Out, sadly we mentioned that nineteen seventy three accident Was

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Speaker 6: Salt walter and that would lead to an addiction to

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Speaker 6: painkillers that would get him off in. Time it'sent on

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Speaker 6: Salt walter's later.

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Speaker 2: Career probably as the result of the. Injuries it was.

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Speaker 1: Saking medication a lot of the time and got himself

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Speaker 1: in trouble and was the guest of the. Government But

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Speaker 1: i'll tell you what a more charismatic GUY i Don't

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Speaker 1: i've ever. Met and when he'd been away for quite some,

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Speaker 1: time and somebody, said, hey Saw walter's in the grocery area,

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Speaker 1: Today AND i remember THAT i was sort of looking

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Speaker 1: out for, him AND i didn't see, him BUT i

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Speaker 1: heard the. Voice and when you saw, him he looked

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Speaker 1: quite a bit. Different but By, gully that voice and

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Speaker 1: the whole demeanor was the. Same he was a great.

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Speaker 1: GUY a lot of people didn't care for, him but

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Speaker 1: By gully he went out there and did it and

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Speaker 1: drove in The indianapolis five hundred several.

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Speaker 2: TIMES a lot of people didn't care for. HIM i

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Speaker 2: think he did a lot for the.

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Speaker 1: Sport he wore the flashy uniforms and you, know looked

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Speaker 1: Like Captain.

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Speaker 2: America and he was a health of.

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Speaker 1: The health proponent that worked out a, lot and it

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Speaker 1: was extremely muscle. Bound And i'll wind up with this

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Speaker 1: if you go ahead and try to make up your

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Speaker 1: list of everybody that drove in The indianapolis five hundred

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Speaker 1: and The daytona five. HUNDRED i think Salt walter is

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Speaker 1: a name that you wouldn't think. Of and it seems

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Speaker 1: to me that in nineteen seventy, FIVE i think he was, twelve.

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Speaker 6: And indeed he ran in both. Races and as we

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Speaker 6: talked about somebody that was willing to venture into just

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Speaker 6: about any, challenge Salt walter one of the great personalities

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Speaker 6: at The indy five hundred and The Indianapolis Motor. Speedway,

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Speaker 6: well thank you for listening to be on the bricks