1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Overall trust in the media has hit a record low. 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 2: Oh dun, dun, dun, dum. It's Kennelly Casey Show. I'm Rob, 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 2: that's Casey. Tell tell about how the public is viewing 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: the media. 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: Just twenty eight percent of Americans say they have a 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: great deal or a fair amount of trust in newspapers. 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 2: TV, and radio. 8 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: We'll tell you the truth. Yeah, we'll tell you like 9 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: it is. You can trust us. That is down from 10 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: thirty one percent in twenty twenty three and forty percent 11 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. So this marks the first time that 12 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: confidence has dropped below thirty percent. 13 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 2: Now, this is Gallup, it is poll. 14 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,319 Speaker 1: It's the lowest since Gallup has been tracking this. 15 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: Everett. Now, what's fascinating to me? So, like they go 16 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 2: far back, like basically what nineteen seventy two and in 17 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy two, this is fascinating me, the media was 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: at a trust rate of like seventy two percent. 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: Correct. 20 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: Look, I hate to break this to you, but the 21 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: media they're human beings. They've always they always It's the 22 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: human inclination to have a slant one way or another, 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: even if you're trying your hardest to be fair. Now, 24 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: there are people like see the George W. Bush National 25 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: Guard story that just blatantly make up stuff and that 26 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: gets exposed. But I think the biggest issue is that 27 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: there's less and less of a delineation between opinion and 28 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 2: hard news news, and they've sort of morphed into one thing. 29 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: So like, if you come to this show, we are 30 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: not unbiased. We I'm telling you, like, I don't think 31 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: you need to know that. You know, we've been for 32 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: nine years, have been telling you I am the most 33 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: biased person you're ever going to meet. If you're coming 34 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: here looking for fair and balance, you done come to 35 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: the wrong place. Now, how many times have we run 36 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: stories and got them right and first right, whether it's 37 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: the Mike Bohatchik o w I or the ow I 38 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: that Bo Baird was able to avoid public scrutiny on, 39 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: you know, a litany of stories that we were first 40 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: about JD Vance coming to Indiana. Like, I mean, we 41 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: get stuff right, and I don't run with stuff without 42 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: having sourced it. And you know, if you get if 43 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: you're breaking news and you get it wrong, that looks 44 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 2: horrible on you. But in terms of the things we 45 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: talk about every single day, we're not here pretending to 46 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: be fair and balance. We totally want you to think 47 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: the way we think, but we disclose it. Not that 48 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: you need it is disclosed, but we are honest about it. 49 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: But there is a clear delineation between the opinion shows 50 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Kendall and Casey Hammer and Nigel and the 51 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: WIBC newsroom where they are trying to be unbiased. 52 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, we go to the news at the top and 53 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: by of the hour and we'll tell you or you know, 54 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: though you'll hear a sounder. This is the WIBC news 55 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: and those people are giving you the news of the day. 56 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: That's as close to as fair and balanced. Down the 57 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: middle is you're going to get ABC and D happened 58 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: and then we talk about it and give you you 59 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: opinions on it. But I do think the truck the 60 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: quote unquote trust like, I don't think the news is 61 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 2: any less biased than it was fifty years ago. I 62 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: just think one people have many avenues to get information 63 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: so they can see the bias. Like if Walter Cronkite 64 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: told you something in nineteen seventy two that my friends 65 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: was the gospel. 66 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: Well that's the difference on how it has morphed because 67 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: back then he would give you the news and you 68 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 1: would create your opinion, and now you're given an opinion 69 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: and you have to decipher what is news. 70 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: I but I I don't think it's as brazen. But 71 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: I think he had biased the same way everybody else. 72 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: Did you know the famous saying when Johnson didn't run reelection, 73 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: when you lost Walter Cronkite, you'd lost the country. Clearly, 74 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: he had an opinion on what was going on. And 75 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: I think any person is going to craft stories around 76 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: things they're interested in or have some sort of opinion on. Look, 77 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: it's naive to think that just because some person is 78 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: reading from a teleprompter that they don't have a bias 79 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: on it. I think people are just able to spot 80 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: it easier, and I think it morphs now in with 81 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: opinion pieces like was it Andy Rooney? Was he the 82 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: one at the end of sixty minutes that like, you 83 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: would basically have Andy Rooney doing stories now, it wouldn't 84 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: be some guy ranting at the end of the thing. 85 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 2: You knew that's what you were getting. Andy Rooney has 86 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: basically just been inserted into mainstream reporting, and people see 87 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: through it and they don't trust it anymore. 88 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: So let's talk about how this is broken down to 89 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: political affiliation. Republicans trust dropped to single digits, a record low. 90 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: Only eight person of Republicans trust the media, the lowest 91 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: ever recorded. It hasn't exceeded twenty one percent trust in 92 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: the media since twenty fifteen. And think about what happened 93 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen. There was a little bounce in twenty eighteen, 94 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: it popped up a little, but for Republicans, trust in 95 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: the media has pretty much stayed down since twenty sixteen. 96 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: Independence they trust media at twenty seven percent. Democrats the 97 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: most trusting. They're currently at fifty one percent. 98 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 2: I would love to ask those people, those Republicans, who 99 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: do you believe is a believable news source? That would be. 100 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,679 Speaker 1: Fast eighty percent that do have trust right. 101 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: And then compare that to how Democrats and Independence would 102 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: view that same source, Because I think trust now is 103 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 2: all in the eye of the beholder, and I think 104 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 2: the broader takeaway is trust really now is affirmation. Trust 105 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: is becoming more affirmation of my my inherit belief system. 106 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: Because I will get people all the time who have 107 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: for years, Oh Rob's the guy, Oh he's mister independent. 108 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: Oh he calls out all this and we love it. 109 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 2: And then you call it their guy, which we've seen 110 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: that quite a lot lately, when we treat their guy 111 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: or girl the same way that we've treated every other 112 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: guy or girl. It was great until it wasn't until 113 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: we treated your person. Yeah, we've treated the same. So 114 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: I think trust now, as we work through this little 115 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: exercise together, I think trust is just becoming more and 116 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: more a code word for affirmation. 117 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: So media trust in an all time low, fractured by 118 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: party and generation. Older adults maintain more confidence, while younger 119 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: Americans they show real deep skepticism. It's interesting because if 120 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: you if you look at the breakdown, let's just take 121 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: Democrats who have the highest level of trust in media 122 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: right now, if you're talking about a senior, they're at 123 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: fifty nine percent plus. But when you get down to 124 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: the Gen Z eighteen to twenty nine year olds, it 125 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: falls down to thirty eight percent.