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Speaker 1: You know Greg Polly, right, Eddie, have you met Greg Polly?

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Speaker 2: Do you know Greg Polly? Great guy, mister three hundred.

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Speaker 1: So that's right, he's bold. Three hundred games of three

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Speaker 1: I'm tired. I'm tired. I had one of those This

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Speaker 1: That would be the Wrangler?

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Speaker 2: Are you allowed to have a wrangular energy?

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Speaker 1: Did you watch last night's Monday night football game?

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Speaker 2: You just bang your knee on the that's all right,

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Speaker 1: We will preview that lot to unpack, a lot to

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Speaker 3: Wait? Wait?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was nice knowing you, Jake. I'm glad I'm

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Speaker 2: I mean, do you feel the same way.

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Speaker 1: Do you think they'll they'll do it before three, so

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Speaker 2: In well, I don't know if you would want that.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you would want to go until three o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Jake.

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Speaker 2: It's been one last full show with me.

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Speaker 1: That's right, and then at three point thirty it's boom.

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Speaker 2: back of my head. Lookedod last night on Channel thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Oh I did see that. You got some TV time.

435
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Speaker 2: It's very hard to keep this milling out of the shot?

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Speaker 1: Am I right? That is correct? Yes, you are the

437
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Speaker 1: walking eclips?

438
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Speaker 2: Thank you?

439
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Speaker 1: Okay? How many games do you think it takes to

440
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Speaker 1: win the AFC South this year? The winner of the

441
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Speaker 1: AFC South, the winning the record will be what eleven?

442
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 1: So you think eleven and six gets it done?

443
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Speaker 3: Right?

444
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Speaker 2: I believe so because Jacksonville's won twice, they had that

445
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Speaker 2: heartbreaking loss to Cincinnati, and they only have one win

446
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Speaker 2: over a divisional team right now, and that was Houston.

447
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 2: They haven't played Tennessee yet. So here's why I ask it.

448
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Speaker 2: And I know this is like the lamest exercise in radio,

449
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: but it is topical. Based on the start I'm gonna

450
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Speaker 2: give you. I'm gonna name the game, and I just

451
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Speaker 2: want you to tell me Eddie off the top of

452
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Speaker 2: your head on what you know right now? With the

453
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 2: Colts instinctively no breakdown, no, no, no, no, just boom boom boom,

454
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Speaker 2: boom boom answer, win or loss? Okay for the Colts

455
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 2: at the Rams, Raiders at home, when Cardinals at home,

456
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Speaker 2: When at the Chargers loss, Titans at home, when at

457
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Speaker 2: the Steelers, when Falcons in Berlin, win, Kansas City at

458
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Speaker 2: Kansas City loss, Houston at home, win at Jacksonville loss

459
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Speaker 2: fair okay, uh, Seattle at Seattle, loss, San Francisco at home, win,

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Speaker 2: Jaguars at home, win at Houston at Houston, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Loss, Okay. So you have them as one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

462
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Speaker 1: eight remaining wins that would put them at eleven and six,

463
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Speaker 1: and you believe that wins the division? Correct? Yeah, that's

464
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Speaker 1: simply my point is at with this start, because they

465
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Speaker 1: have done what they've done, they put themselves in very

466
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Speaker 1: good position.

467
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Speaker 5: And who.

468
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Speaker 1: So much good? The NFL is a game of inches, man,

469
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: and that the leverage. There's your inches leverage. What's that leverage?

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Speaker 1: That's right?

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Speaker 2: That was the game winning played for the Colts right

472
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Speaker 2: week two.

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Speaker 1: That's what I mean the leverage that that's the game

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Speaker 1: of inches, right, there. That's the that I mean, because

475
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Speaker 1: if they are two and one right now, we're probably

476
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Speaker 1: not having that same conversation. But that's just the way

477
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Speaker 1: things go.

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Speaker 3: You know.

479
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Speaker 1: It's fascinating in the NFL. I'm gonna weekly pick them

480
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Speaker 1: with three of my buddies.

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Speaker 2: Is this a survivor or just like a No, it's

482
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Speaker 2: a confidence pool, okay, and it's cumulative over the course

483
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Speaker 2: of the year. Now, how many of you had Green

484
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Speaker 2: Bay as you know, your most confident confident pin.

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Speaker 1: Nobody had it as the most confident Oh wow.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

487
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Speaker 1: But the fascinating thing about the NFL is just this

488
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: past Sunday, for example, as you're sitting there watching over

489
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Speaker 1: the course of the afternoon, who's the leader for the

490
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Speaker 1: week and whatever else? It was changing back and forth

491
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Speaker 1: because there were literally in the early games on Sunday,

492
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Speaker 1: there were like three games that all were swung by

493
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Speaker 1: a field goal in the last ninety seconds and they

494
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: happened within like five minutes of each other. Yeah, the

495
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Speaker 1: parody is it really is, I mean, And that's the

496
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Speaker 1: NFL is set up that way, and that's why the

497
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Speaker 1: NFL has the aside from gambling, aside from fantasy sports,

498
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Speaker 1: and aside from the fact that for the better part

499
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Speaker 1: of our culture, the NFL has been a one day

500
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Speaker 1: domination sport, another factor as to why it is the

501
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: eight thousand pound gorilla is the fact that it is

502
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Speaker 1: designed that way where every single franchise at the beginning

503
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Speaker 1: of the year feels like they have a chance that

504
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Speaker 1: it's going to be there, that they are going to

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Speaker 1: be there that season's Indianapolis Colts or whoever it may be,

506
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Speaker 1: where you're just like, oh, the Minnesota Vikings of a

507
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: couple years ago, where you're like, are they actually gonna

508
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 1: win fifteen games?

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Speaker 3: Here?

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Speaker 1: Now you were talking about a team in the NFC

511
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Speaker 1: that you believe is the equivalent right now of the Colts.

512
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Speaker 1: Is that right? That is correct? Can you define without

513
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: telling me the team what the criteria is that you

514
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Speaker 1: believe makes it mirror Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're a team that is they're one of the

516
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Speaker 2: six teams that is undefeated through three weeks of the season. Okay,

517
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Speaker 2: they haven't really played anybody and they got gifted two wins.

518
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Speaker 1: They haven't played anybody and they were gifted two wins. Well,

519
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Speaker 1: it's got to be and we're talking NFC. Yes, it's

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00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: got to be San Francisco because there's only two NFC

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Speaker 1: teams that are unbeaten, right.

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Speaker 2: There are three NFL games that are unbeaten. That is

523
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Speaker 2: one of them, and you are in correct.

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Speaker 1: The Tampa Bay Bucks, you are correct, Yeah, because you

525
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Speaker 1: kind of forget about them, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They I mean they lucked out against Houston, but squeaked

527
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Speaker 2: out a win against Atlanta. Here's what Tampa has, Mike Evans,

528
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: by the way, going you miss three to four weeks

529
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Speaker 2: with a hamstring Streen. What Tampa has that the Colts

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Speaker 2: are hoping they have. I think we can now say,

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Speaker 2: in fact now is.

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Speaker 1: He Heisman winner, number one selection, franchise quarterback, multiple Super

533
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Speaker 1: Bowl attending quarterback level? I don't know, but I think

534
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Speaker 1: we have enough body of work now to say that

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield has a solid home and is a legit

536
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Speaker 1: top what would you say twelve quarterback? Yeah, And I

537
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Speaker 1: think for the Colts they are hopeful. Certainly they're hopeful,

538
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: but you would love for that to end up being

539
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: the same story with Daniel Jones, where you say you

540
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: know what, and in Baker's case, there were other stops

541
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Speaker 1: along the way, but a change of scenery from the

542
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: franchise that drafted him is what was needed for him

543
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Speaker 1: to really finally blossom. And I think the Colts would

544
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Speaker 1: love to be able to say that about Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: But again it is early one thing that the Colts

546
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Speaker 1: have done masterfully with Jones.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Baker Mayfield was twenty eight when he

548
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Speaker 2: joined the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Daniel Jones twenty eight May

549
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Speaker 2: twenty seventh his birthday. I know that because ninety seven

550
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Speaker 2: eighty five hundred, yep.

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Speaker 1: But the the thing about Jones, Shane Steichen is calling

552
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Speaker 1: masterfully the plays in the offensive scheme for Daniel Jones.

553
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Speaker 1: And what the Colts are doing is you knew going

554
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Speaker 1: in that they had, you know, Jonathan Taylor, and you

555
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: know obviously Tyler Warren was going to be an important

556
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: target for him and a comfort zone and et cetera.

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Speaker 1: They have brilliantly. And maybe it's Reggie Wayne. Maybe Reggie

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Speaker 1: Wayne deserves a lot of credit because Reggie Wayne. Let

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Speaker 1: me tell you something that happened to Reggie Wayne that

560
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: is an underrated or perhaps under or overlooked aspect of

561
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Speaker 1: what's impacting the Colts right now. Two things. Number One

562
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Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne when he came into the NFL as a player,

563
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: was not a dynamic rookie. And there were murmurs and

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Speaker 1: discussions and questions and whispers around town as to whether

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Speaker 1: or not Reggie Wayne was a bust or a wasted pick.

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Speaker 1: And yes, he was coming into a situation where you

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Speaker 1: had Peyton Manning, but you already had Marvin Harrison and etc.

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Speaker 1: So they he had time to kind of grow. And

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Speaker 1: then once it took off for Reggie Wayne, you know

570
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Speaker 1: what kind of player Reggie Wayne was? Could that be like?

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that this guy's going to have

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Speaker 1: the career of Reggie Wayne, don't get me wrong, But

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Speaker 1: a year ago, we were all ready to write off

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Speaker 1: Ady Mitchell, and maybe Adi Mitchell simply needed a wide

575
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Speaker 1: receiver coach that said, look, you've got to block out

576
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Speaker 1: the noise, because I know what that's like as a

577
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Speaker 1: rookie to hear all the conversation about how you're not

578
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Speaker 1: panning out. I've been there, and Adie Mitchell has not

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Speaker 1: been some breakthrough player for the Colts this year, but

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Speaker 1: I think we've seen he is a guy that is

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Speaker 1: showing that he can contribute, and that's one area, perhaps

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Speaker 1: we're having Reggie Wayne as your wide receiver coach is

583
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Speaker 1: paying off for you. But there's another area where I

584
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: think that Reggie Wayne is paying dividend and there's another

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Speaker 1: player that is benefiting from it.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Years ago, I did a radio show here in town,

588
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Speaker 1: different station, and one day we're sitting there and we're like,

589
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Speaker 1: we should try to do a player's show. Find a

590
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: player on the colts to do like a weekly show with,

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Speaker 1: And I said, what about Reggie Wayne. Okay, let's try.

592
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: So the radio station reached out to I don't know

593
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Speaker 1: whether it was AMP or management or somehow of Reggie Wayne,

594
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, Reggie Wayne will do it great.

595
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: And so the way that we were able to get

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Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne is I think that truthfully, at that point

597
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Speaker 1: in his career, a lot of people thought that we

598
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Speaker 1: were starting to see the introduction of the twilight of

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00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 1: Reggi Wayne, the start of the decline of Reggie Wayne.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things that doing that show with

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Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne taught me was how unbelievably prepared, both physically

602
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Speaker 1: and mentally he was. Every week. He knew every single

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Speaker 1: aspect of being a wide receiver in terms of knowing

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Speaker 1: the tendencies of his quarterback, reading the tendencies of the

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00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: defense he was lining up against, but more importantly the

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00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: workouts that he did. It was incredible to me. I mean,

607
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Speaker 1: he would tell me about how he was up at

608
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Speaker 1: five o'clock in the morning doing extra you know, doing

609
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: things on elliptical whatever, well before he even went into

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00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 1: the building, and then spend all day in the building,

611
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: and then once a week would do the radio show

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00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 1: and whatever else rents and repeat, and the thorough nature

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00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: of it all and the dedication to it all was incredible.

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Speaker 1: And during the time in the multiple seasons that I

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00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: was doing the show with Reggie Wayne, it was either

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Speaker 1: the first or I think it was the first year

617
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: we did. It was the rookie year of Andrew Luck,

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Speaker 1: and Reggie Wayne was the guy that really was facilitating this.

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Speaker 1: Reggie or Andrew Luck was a savant as it is,

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Speaker 1: but Andrew Luck when he first came in as a

621
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Speaker 1: rookie in that unbelievable year and the Chuck Pagano year

622
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Speaker 1: and the Gloves game against the Packers and everything that

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Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne did that year so much, I think and

624
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck would have been a great quarterback out of

625
00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: the womb as an NFL player, if he had you

626
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: and I and Jimmy Cook as his receivers, right, but

627
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Speaker 1: he had Reggie Wayne, who was a comfort and guiding

628
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: force for him. But what Reggie Wayne did that year

629
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Speaker 1: to not only extend his own career, What Reggie Wayne

630
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: did that year to help Andrew Luck. What Reggie Wayne

631
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: did that year to lift the Colts in multiple games

632
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: and become and further cement himself as a fan favorite

633
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Speaker 1: in this town. All of those things that Reggie Wayne

634
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: did as a player, he's now on the coaching staff

635
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: and it is paying dividends for the Colts right now,

636
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: and it's helping Daniel Jones, and it's helping Shane Steichen,

637
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: and it's helping a particular player that's facilitating for all

638
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: of that. And I'll tell you what it is that

639
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 1: he's doing and why it is an extremely overlooked aspect

640
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: of this season. On the other side, Stephen Holder joined

641
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: us eighteen as well here on a Tuesday. Reggie Wayne

642
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: in those years I'm talking about, as he transitioned from

643
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 1: being the wide receiver that was the compliment to Marvin Harrison,

644
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: the one that got behind the defense in the Super Bowl,

645
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: caught the touchdown pass, had dynamic plays, unbelievable catches. In

646
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: those years with Andrew Luck. What Reggie Wayne did was

647
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: reinvented himself essentially as a possession receiver. He was he

648
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: knew he didn't have the breakaway speed anymore. I remember

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Speaker 1: one of those shows that I did with him, him

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Speaker 1: talking about a play where he was I think he

651
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: got dragged down at like the five yard line. He's like, man,

652
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: I was running for all I had, and that end

653
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 1: zone just kept getting further and further away. But he

654
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: still was an unbelievable target in the intermediate for Andrew

655
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: Luck because of his ability to turn right off the line.

656
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: Obviously his hands are incredible, to run precise routes and

657
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: to make up for what athleticism was starting to go

658
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: away from him by through precision and Alec Pierce is

659
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: clearly a very good athlete, has great speed, obviously has

660
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: great hands. But one of the underrated, overlooked aspects so

661
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:42,919
Speaker 1: far of this Cult season is at the time when

662
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: they needed Ady Mitchell to really show that he had

663
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 1: made the step and was ready to be a secondary piece,

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Speaker 1: they got more time and Ady Mitchell got more time

665
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: of allowing himself more time to grow. And Mitchell is

666
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: starting to turn the corner a little bit, but the

667
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: pressure is off of him a little bit because Alec

668
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: Pierce has reinvented himself a little bit, or maybe just

669
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: invented himself in general as possession receiver is selling him

670
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: short but a short yardage receiver and a guy that

671
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, they're using Pierce in different ways.

672
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: And just when we thought to ourselves, as I did

673
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: when Daniel Jones was named the starter and Alec Pierce

674
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: is going into a contract year, I thought to myself, well,

675
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: that took care of that, did it? Because he's become

676
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: a really important part of their offense. And I know

677
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: that right now he's in the protocol concussion and we'll

678
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: find out from Steven if there's anything new on that.

679
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: But I think that's a wrinkle to their offense. That

680
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: has been a huge, a big part of Daniel Jones

681
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: what he is doing for the Colts right now is

682
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 1: the fact that he is put in a situation where

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Speaker 1: he is allowed to have or it is facilitated for

684
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Speaker 1: him to find a comfort zone because of the way

685
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Speaker 1: that he can spread the ball around between Warren and

686
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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor and Pittman and now Pierce as well, and

687
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: Pierce move him up that chart in terms of options.

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00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: I mean, he's no longer like a you know, hey,

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00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: I guess if the play's breaking down, I'll throw it

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00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: up and hope Alec Pierce goes and gets a guy.

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00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: He's now a He's part of my immediate progressions and

692
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: early in the progressions read to get him the ball.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned last night, by the way, Eddie, that I

694
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: couldn't sleep. Okay, what do you do when you have

695
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Speaker 1: when insomnia strikes you? What do you do?

696
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Speaker 2: I just lay there and think about life.

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Speaker 1: What do you do to try to slow down your

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Speaker 1: brain and fall asleep?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: What things do you do when you're like I've got

701
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: to get Like I had ten thousand things going through

702
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: my head, and I was like, I have to somehow

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Speaker 1: get all of this out of my head and just

704
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Speaker 1: clear my head in general. And so I'm like, you

705
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: know a lot of times I'll do the Okay, let

706
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: me see if I can think of the National Football

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00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: League standings in order, or the Major League Baseball standings

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Speaker 1: in order, or you know, I just start, my brain

709
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: starts going through stuff and so, and you just think

710
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: about life at that point. Yeah, I just think about, hey,

711
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: what do I got tomorrow? This, that, and the other, like,

712
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: all right, cool, that's what I gotta do. And then

713
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Speaker 1: my problem is that's what keeps me up. Right really,

714
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: so I last night at about three point thirty eight

715
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Speaker 1: in the morning, Old Jake, I also have home remedies to.

716
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Speaker 2: To help me with that issue.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so last night I thought to myself, Okay, nothing's

718
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Speaker 1: working here, so I'm just gonna start doing extra in

719
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Speaker 1: my mind. Now what I mentioned this on the air

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Speaker 1: right now. And this happens to me every once in

721
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Speaker 1: a while. Okay, I will mention something and people will

722
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: say to themselves, well that that's the dumbest that what

723
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: is this guy talking about? And then invariably and inevitably

724
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: later they will say, you know, you mentioned that, And

725
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: I have to admit I kept going back to it.

726
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: I kept thinking about it. Now, here's one that I

727
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: did last night. You ready, I'm ready start count And

728
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: I thought, what's that you start counting? Sheep? I have

729
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: actually tried doing that before.

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Speaker 3: No.

731
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Speaker 1: I was sitting there and I began thinking about this,

732
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: and I thought, I'm going to count through the alphabet

733
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: and for every letter of the alphabet, I'm going to

734
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: name a car manufacturer that begins with that letter. Now

735
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: I don't mean model, I don't mean model, So like

736
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: you drive a Chevy Malibu? Correct? Sure, yeah, so I

737
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: don't mean the the M for Malibu, I mean C

738
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: for Chevrolet. So I started it A and I went

739
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: to Z and I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna sit

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00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: here until I think. And then I went back through

741
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: the alphabet to do Okay, now I'm gonna do you know,

742
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: second car whatever. By my estimation, by my calculation, there

743
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: were one, two, three, four letters of the alphabet that

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00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: I could not think of a car that starts with

745
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 1: that letter. Would you like to guess the letter, Eddie,

746
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: give me a letter and I'll see if you're correct.

747
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 1: Here Now you think this is crazy, but now you're

748
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: gonna start thinking about it and go, you know, it's

749
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: actually a good question. Three four letters, four letters that

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Speaker 1: I literally could not think of a car, manifact a

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00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: car manufacturer that serves that letter you that is one

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00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 1: of them, That is indeed one of them. There might

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Speaker 1: be one. Feel free to send me a text at

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Speaker 1: three one seven, five, two, three nine eight if you

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00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: can tell me. And there's probably like some you know,

756
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: like Polish car manufacturer, but I'm talking about like you know,

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00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: at least available now. Defunct is fine. It can be

758
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Speaker 1: a defunct, but it has to be a card that

759
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: at some point you could have bought the United States?

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Speaker 1: You is one? Would you like to guess me? Another letter?

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Speaker 3: Here?

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Speaker 1: Que Stephen Holder in five by the way, Q. No there.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember what I came up with for Q,

764
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: but there was one. Q. Okay, why you go? Oh

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Speaker 1: that's right, the you go, baby, I'd love to have it.

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Speaker 3: You go.

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Speaker 1: You can probably buy one right now for like seven

768
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Speaker 1: hundred bucks. Keep thinking on the other ones. Holder joins us.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk Colts. Will get the latest in terms of

770
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: the injury report from the Indianapolis Colts with Stephen Holder

771
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: of ESPN. Next the Ultima by the way. Ultima is

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Speaker 1: a British sports car with a U. And then I

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00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: think I was cheating on this one. I don't know

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Speaker 1: where I heard of it, but the qual I think

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00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: that's a prototype, though I don't think quant is out yet.

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00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: That was my cue. E okay, e is one of them.

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00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: I couldn't think of one with E.

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00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 2: So you have one more that you could not think of?

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00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: Yes, Now give me a letter that you just give

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00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: me another letter here that and I'll tell you what.

781
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: Just name a letter and I'll tell you what manufacturer

782
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: came up with. V Volkswagon. Yep, that's the first one

783
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 1: that comes to mind, right, U Volvo would be another one.

784
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: Volvos are the safest cars, right, isn't that right? Uh,

785
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: that's the last one that I couldn't think of one.

786
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: There has to be ones, right, I know that there

787
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: are models. What's at Zenos and Zenvo Zenvo. You know

788
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: what's funny is if you go to Europe you can

789
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Speaker 1: get like there's there are certain manufacturers. When I was

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00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: I rented a car when we were in Europe and

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Speaker 1: it was I mean, it was a pretty cool car

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00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: and the logo for it was kind of like a

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00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 1: Pegasus looking thing and yeah, like a no, a griffin,

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00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: like a griffin looking thing, you know, they like lion

795
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 1: looking Delio with wings and it was like a Polish

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00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: manufacturer and like they're everywhere a.

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00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: Zenos or Zenos Havard's pronounced as a British automotive company

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00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 2: that produces high performance, lightweight sports cars.

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Speaker 1: Do you like iss How fast can you drive me?

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Speaker 3: Is Ez? Yes?

801
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Speaker 1: I like to listen to Issis and my Zes.

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00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: They went into distribution in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Oh really you're still around? Looks like it. Stephen Holder

804
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 1: set to join us. Do you think he's bailing because

805
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: of this conversation last night in Monday that football? Would

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00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: you if you were him? What's that? Would you hear?

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00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 3: Him? Probably?

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00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: One thing I think we learned last night. I still

809
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: think Baltimore is really good, but Detroit Week one was

810
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: the anomaly. I mean, I think Detroit Jared Goff give

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00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: him credit. Man, I've said all along, you know, Jared,

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00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: especially that year the Lions went to the Super Bowl,

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00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: Jared Goff looked kind of lost and looked like he

814
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: couldn't like, I don't know what it was. It was

815
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: like he had never seen different defensive formations before. And

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00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: then he since then, you know I heard them last

817
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: night mentioned on the broadcast that he felt like going

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00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: to Detroit was one of the best things to happen

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Speaker 1: to his career. And I mean, I'll give him credit

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00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: for saying that. Maybe he just needed to get away

821
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Speaker 1: from like a change of scenery because he I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've said it before. You know, you grew up here

823
00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: a California kid. You play at cal you had more

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00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: one on one time with that the wife of his

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00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: is it are they married now?

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Speaker 2: You don't have a kid.

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Speaker 1: And he got very excited when he mentioned that.

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00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, they just have their first kid.

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Speaker 1: They did. Yeah. So, but you know, you grew up

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00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: in California. You go to cal you're playing for the Rams,

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Speaker 1: you're living in LA, you're starting in the Super Bowl,

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00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: and then you get traded to Detroit. I mean nothing

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00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: against the city of Detroit. We have Detroit's come a

834
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: long way and then and I'll give them credit. I

835
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: mean they're doing what they can to like clean things up,

836
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: turn things around, what are whatever? You know, what have you?

837
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Speaker 1: But to go from LA to Detroit is like you

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00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: want to talk about culture shock and yet it I mean,

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00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: he has played very well there. They they have a

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00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: lot of weapons, they're fun to watch. And you know, Baltimore,

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00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: we you still think of Baltimore as the elite of

842
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: the elite, but.

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00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: Defense doesn't look as good as you thought of I know,

844
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 2: telling you but the NFL is a long season, man,

845
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Speaker 2: and Lamar was just under durest the entire night. Seven Sacks.

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Speaker 1: Joining us now a guy that feels like he's under

847
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: duress every time he comes on this program, I'm sure

848
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Speaker 1: from ESPN dot Com Stephen Holder joining us, Steven. Let's

849
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Speaker 1: get right to the first thing's first year, and that

850
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: is the Colt's injury report. You know, I would assume

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00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: obviously at this point on a Tuesday, there's really no

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00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: new information on some of those, notably Kenny Moore and

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00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: Alec Pierce, that are hurt. Sometimes there are also those

854
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:38,919
Speaker 1: that we hear about and you go, wait a minute,

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00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that they were under question in terms

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Speaker 1: of their health status. Where do things stand right now

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Speaker 1: in terms of the health of the Colts.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's pretty apparent at this point. I think that

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Speaker 3: that Kenny Moore is not going to play this week.

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00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 3: That's not confirmed. They haven't said that out right, but

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Speaker 3: every indication is that he will not play this week.

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Speaker 3: So I think they're planning for that. Mike Kilton, which

863
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Speaker 3: that kick that was reported yesterday that the former SNATI

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Speaker 3: Bengals corner he has joined the practice squad. As of

865
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 3: today officially, so they can promote him on a Sunday

866
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 3: if they need him. And remember he has a history

867
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 3: of playing in the slot, and so he has shown

868
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 3: the versatility to be able to play in there. Is

869
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 3: he the player he used to be? I don't think so.

870
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 3: Then that's that's just a reality. But he has experienced

871
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 3: and he could do it on short notice. So that's

872
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 3: where they are there look out in Paris. You know

873
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 3: how these concussions are, You don't know, frankly until you

874
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 3: see how the player responds in the following days. So

875
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 3: too early to know. He's got to go through the steps,

876
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,439
Speaker 3: and you can't really do that for the most part

877
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 3: until you get out there and practice. So that process

878
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 3: gets underway. Tomorrow we'll see if he's even out there,

879
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 3: if he has had a or I guess if his

880
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 3: symptoms have subsided, he can practice and then he's got

881
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 3: to follow the steps and then we will see where

882
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 3: he stands on Friday Saturday. So that's where we're at

883
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 3: right now. But I think you're getting ready to see

884
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 3: perhaps Mike Hilton and possibly if Piers doesn't play a

885
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 3: little more of Ady Mitchell's.

886
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: Steve and I know he has to miss one more

887
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 2: game because he's placed on injuryserve prior to the season.

888
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 2: But is the anticipation after this week that the twenty

889
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 2: one day would turn to action window will be opened

890
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 2: for Jalen Carlis.

891
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 3: What I've heard is that he seems to be somebody

892
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 3: who will come back sooner than later when once that

893
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 3: four week you know, time limits has elapsed, and this

894
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 3: is the fourth game coming up, and that would be

895
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 3: good because I do think linebackers an issue for them

896
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 3: right now. That position or that unit, the depth is

897
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 3: just not there, and they don't have a lot of

898
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 3: playmaking at that position right now. Carlais is a guy

899
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 3: who has that potential, that playmaking potential, particularly in coverage.

900
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 3: And so you go up against a play caller like

901
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 3: Sean McVay and you know Carlais won't play this week.

902
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, you know, that's a guy who

903
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 3: can exploit your weaknesses, and that is a weakness for

904
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 3: the COLT. So it's something to watch.

905
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 6: For his work.

906
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: Stephen, which has been a bigger Stephen Holder, our guest

907
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: from ESPN dot com, which has been a bigger surprise

908
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: for you in terms of this offense, and by that

909
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: I mean in the short yardage passing game and a

910
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: short yardage target for Daniel Jones, Jonathan Taylor or Alec Pierce.

911
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 3: Hmm. I would say Jonathan Taylor maybe because I think

912
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 3: if you look at the last couple of years, his

913
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 3: receiving numbers have been down pretty substant He caught a

914
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 3: lot of passes in his first two years because he

915
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 3: was on the field all the time, but the last

916
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 3: two years since Shane stykeing, it's coincided with Shane Styking

917
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 3: being here. And I don't know that it's Shane specifically,

918
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 3: but for whatever reason, he hasn't caught a lot of passes,

919
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 3: and I think it's an opportunity missed. I always thought that.

920
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 3: I think some of the biggest plays in Jonathan Taylor's

921
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 3: career have come in the passing game. I talked to

922
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 3: him about this recently. You can go back to there

923
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 3: was that Carson Wentz game in Baltimore a few years

924
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 3: back where they hit him on a checkdown or a screen,

925
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 3: I can't remember, and he went about seventy yards to

926
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 3: the house. There was a screen in Houston. I think

927
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 3: maybe Philip rivers through this. I believe maybe as a

928
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 3: rookie for Jonathan Taylor's rookie year, took that one, you know,

929
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 3: sixty yards or so to the end zone. You know,

930
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 3: is his playmaking ability is the same whether you throw

931
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 3: it to him or he runs it right. If he's

932
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 3: in the open field, he's in the open field. So

933
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 3: I just think there were some missed opportunities there. And

934
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 3: Shane Stackin told me before the season privately, he said,

935
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 3: JT's going to catch a lot of passes this year.

936
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 3: And I said, really, because I forgot. It seemed like

937
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 3: you guys forgot that he existed in the passing game.

938
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 3: And it's kind of what I said to him, I'm paraphrasing,

939
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 3: and he said, no. He says, Daniel is the perfect guy.

940
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 3: He's going to get him the ball and he's going

941
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 3: to check it down to him a lot, because that's

942
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 3: what he does when he doesn't have his first option.

943
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 3: And you know, we think that he can help us

944
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 3: a little more in the passing game, even scheming stuff

945
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 3: for him, as you saw, I believe last week against

946
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 3: the Broncos, he saw that long reception that he had

947
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 3: that was a schemed play. It wasn't a checkdown. So

948
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 3: I'm happy they're doing it because I again, I think

949
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 3: they've left a lot on the bone by not getting

950
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 3: him involved there. He is a very poor pass protector.

951
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 3: That's part of what has been his has kept him

952
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 3: out of the passing game. But he's doing a better

953
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 3: job this year. I have to give him credit, and

954
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 3: it really is about effort. So that's good. But at

955
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 3: the same time, Alec Pearce being involved. I knew he

956
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 3: could do it. They just had to actually give him

957
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 3: the opportunities, and I'm glad that they are because he

958
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 3: is a more well rounded receiver than we give him

959
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 3: credit for.

960
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: I was talking about earlier Stephen before he came on.

961
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: You know, Alec Pierce and his ability to play again,

962
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: possession receiver is the wrong word, but you know they're

963
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 1: able to use him in just in shorter routes, you know,

964
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: bubble screens, whatever you want to use. You know, he's

965
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: not just the deep ball threat, is what I'm getting

966
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: at here, right. How much of that is Shane Stike

967
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 1: in deciding to design and scheme things for Alec Pierce

968
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: And how much of that is Reggie Wayne As I

969
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: was talking about saying, Look, I had to reinvent myself

970
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: as a receiver in the latter part of my career.

971
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: You still have the versatility. Let me show you how

972
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: to play in this style. Am I giving the Wayne

973
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: aspect too much credit there?

974
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,959
Speaker 3: Well, it definitely is a factor. Here's where it's a factor.

975
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 3: Here's where Reggie Wayne is a factor. Alec Pierce has

976
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 3: very much wanted to do this. I talked to him

977
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 3: about this in the off season, and he said his

978
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 3: entire offseason work, well, the majority of his off season

979
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 3: work was spent on getting in and out of his

980
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 3: breaks and doing the things that get you open on

981
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 3: shorter and intermediate routes. You know, when when he gets

982
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 3: to open up and run down the field on a

983
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 3: seven step drop, well he can do that because the

984
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 3: guy can run, and he runs like a gazelle. You know,

985
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 3: he's six three with long legs, and he's got good speed, right,

986
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 3: So that's natural for him. What's not natural is how

987
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 3: do you how do you get open when you're you're

988
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 3: running you know, an eight yard incut, you know, and

989
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 3: you've got to shake this corner who is all over you.

990
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 3: You do that with very precise cuts and good technique

991
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 3: and running routes that all look the same, so that

992
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 3: corner doesn't get any kind of indication of what you're doing.

993
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 3: So that is where I think the Reggie Wayne aspect

994
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 3: comes into play, because he was great at that right.

995
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 3: Reggie Wayne was a technician. You know, when we talk

996
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 3: about Jerry Rice, now, he's not Jerry Rice, although he's

997
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 3: a very he was an excellent player, a Hall of famer,

998
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 3: I think. But Jerry Rice, there's a reason he could

999
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 3: play in the NFL running you know, a four to

1000
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 3: eight forty, not quite four eight, but almost right. And

1001
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 3: the reason is because he was an incredible technician and

1002
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,919
Speaker 3: you never knew whether he was running a go route

1003
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 3: or a slant. You couldn't tell the difference. And that

1004
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 3: is what you have to be able to implement into

1005
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 3: your game. And Ali Paris has done a much better job,

1006
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 3: I think of running more precise routes and that's how

1007
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 3: he's creating that space now. And then the other thing

1008
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 3: is Daniel Jones frankly is a factor here because his

1009
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 3: ball placement has been credible. I mean I can't believe it.

1010
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 3: I mean I didn't think he was like this, you know,

1011
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 3: wildly inaccurate quarterback but I never thought he who throw

1012
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 3: the ball with this kind of accuracy. It is ridiculous.

1013
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 3: So I mean, he's just doing a great job. And

1014
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 3: I like Paris is a great contested ball catcher, and

1015
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 3: it's all coming together. So it's all the above.

1016
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: Steven, can you do me. You're not driving right now,

1017
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: are you?

1018
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 3: I'm not?

1019
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: Okay? Good, because I want you to close your eyes

1020
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: for a second. Okay, I'm not going to hypnotize you here, Okay,

1021
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: Stephen Holder. I want you to close your eyes, take

1022
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: a deep breath. Okay. I want you to envision Halloween

1023
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty six. This is Halloween a year from now,

1024
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: a year and a month from now or so. Okay,

1025
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: So you're getting ready, you're setting up the trick or

1026
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: treating and everything else, and just when the kids are

1027
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: about to come from the neighborhood up to drive, your

1028
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: wife says to you, oh, Stephen, before we hand out

1029
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: the the candy, I was supposed to remind you you've

1030
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: got a phone interview with the Colts quarterback tonight. You say,

1031
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: that's right, So you tell the kids to hang on

1032
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: just a second. You've got to conduct an interview with

1033
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback of the Colts. Is that player Daniel Jones.

1034
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 3: It sort of sounds like it because the guy has

1035
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 3: no wife, he doesn't know that it's Halloween, clearly because

1036
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 3: all he does is study the damn playbook. So it

1037
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 3: sounds like Daniel Jones to me.

1038
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: But look, in all seriousness, but is he here a

1039
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: year from now as the guy that's starting for this.

1040
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know, I think that.

1041
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: You or or is he exact this year for Halloween,

1042
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: just disguised as a guy that's a competent quarterback and

1043
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: we're all going to be fooled with a treat a

1044
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: trick and not a treat.

1045
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 3: Well, wouldn't we feel stupid if that's the case? Right?

1046
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 3: But look, three games is not enough. I mean, I'm

1047
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 3: not giving him an extension tomorrow or anything. However, I

1048
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 3: think if what we're seeing is real, it's not like

1049
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 3: to this level. He doesn't have to play this well

1050
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 3: all year for him to be a guy who is

1051
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 3: who is an option for them next year. This team

1052
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 3: they don't they can't be picky. Okay, they're not going

1053
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 3: to have a great draft pick. There's not going to

1054
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 3: be quarterbacks falling out of the trees, like, if this

1055
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 3: guy continues to play competent football and can work with

1056
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 3: Shane Stikeen in such a way that he can get

1057
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 3: the best out of him, it's a no brainer. It's

1058
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 3: no brainer. And so they have a couple of things

1059
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 3: going for them. You still got to sign him, right

1060
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 3: and that won't They won't be fourteen million, okay, like

1061
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 3: it is this year. So the options would be as follows.

1062
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 3: You you negotiate, you come to a deal, You sign

1063
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 3: him to a multi year contract. Obviously he would want that,

1064
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 3: because who wouldn't. The other alternative if you can't get

1065
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 3: a deal done is you have the franchise tag because

1066
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 3: he is your player. So the Colts have the upper hand.

1067
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 3: He would certainly be of interest to other teams if

1068
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 3: he plays this well all year, no question about that.

1069
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 3: But they have the upper hand because they can negotiate

1070
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 3: with him in advance, whereas other teams cannot. And they

1071
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 3: also have the benefit of the franchise tag, which would

1072
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 3: be a gazillion dollars for one year, but probably worth it.

1073
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: I think what you Freudian just said to us before

1074
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: I inadvertently cut you off from saying it is that

1075
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. Part of how he ended up getting the

1076
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: job is on Halloween, he's studying the playbook and the

1077
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: last guy was trick or treating, right, not.

1078
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 3: Exactly what I was saying, but I will say this,

1079
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 3: I hear where you're going with that. I do think that,

1080
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 3: you know, I don't want to characterize these things in

1081
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 3: such a way like, well, one guy's working hard and

1082
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 3: the other guy isn't. But I would say this this guy, Yeah,

1083
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 3: but this guy definitely has an incomparable work ethic. That

1084
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 3: is true. And I think for Daniel Jones, he would

1085
01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 3: not be the player that he is right now without that. Okay,

1086
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 3: now there may be players for whom it's different. But

1087
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 3: for Daniel, his success, from everything we see and hear,

1088
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 3: is because when you ask Shane Speakin about him, it's

1089
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 3: the only thing he talks about. He says, Well, the

1090
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 3: guy works hard and he studies, and it's all he

1091
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 3: puts in all this work, right, It's what everybody says.

1092
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 3: So he knows that his his ticket to success is

1093
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 3: knowing everything backwards and forwards. And maybe it's because he

1094
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 3: doesn't have maybe the you know, the magical Josh Allen

1095
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 3: type of arm or the Lamar Jackson overall ability, Right,

1096
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 3: He's not that kind of quarterback, There's no question about that.

1097
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 3: Now he's throwing the ball very well, but there is

1098
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 3: something to be said for that, Like he has to

1099
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 3: be on the screws on all the details because you know,

1100
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 3: his his arm talent maybe isn't what it is for

1101
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 3: some of the elite guys out there, so he makes

1102
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 3: up for it in other ways. And I know that's

1103
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 3: a tired cliche, like you know, maybe the guy who

1104
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 3: isn't as physically talented, he just outworks everybody. But I

1105
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 3: can only tell you in the case of Daniel Jones,

1106
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 3: that's what you're seeing right now, Like you're seeing a

1107
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 3: guy who's outworking everybody else and making himself the quarterback

1108
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 3: that he is in part because of the work in

1109
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 3: the preparation that he puts in.

1110
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: Steven, let me give you a couple of notes from

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01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 1: this weekend, and I want you to tell me what

1112
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: you notice here. Okay, I think back. You know the

1113
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: NFL is a is a copycat and cyclical league, right,

1114
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 1: I mean we know that there are trends that happened

1115
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and a couple of years ago we

1116
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 1: were all discussing. You know that the running back was

1117
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 1: this expendable, fungible position that you know, no longer did

1118
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: you need to spend a top second, you know, three

1119
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 1: rounds pick on the running back because everybody was throwing

1120
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 1: for a billion yards, and the league and the competition committee,

1121
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: going back to Brady Manning, was set up to advantage quarterback.

1122
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 1: I look at the and I'm looking at the sheet

1123
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: right here. Okay, this past weekend, Tyrod Taylor in his game,

1124
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor through four let me see here, twenty six

1125
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: of thirty six for one hundred and ninety seven yards. Okay,

1126
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz comes in and fills in, and Carson Wentz

1127
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: goes fourteen to twenty for one hundred and seventy three yards.

1128
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: These are both wins. Bryce Young for Carolina sixteen of

1129
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: twenty four for one hundred and twenty one yards. What

1130
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: is it that we're seeing, and this is becoming more

1131
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: and more than norm Why is it that we are

1132
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:43,439
Speaker 1: now seeing short yardage passing games where you're getting guys

1133
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: that are completing twenty to twenty five passes but doing

1134
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: it for a total of one hundred and twenty five yards.

1135
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 3: Well, I think there have to be some extenuating circumstances

1136
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 3: for that to work. So you mentioned Carson Wentz for example.

1137
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 3: I believe they had two defensive touchdowns in that game.

1138
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 3: So that's an example of a scenario like, did you

1139
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 3: mention Wentz?

1140
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: No, you mentioned I did mention?

1141
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1142
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: I mean here, okay, Joe Flacty two yards per standing

1143
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 1: on the former Cult team. But you get what I'm saying, Like,

1144
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: you know what, it's almost like rhythm passing is now

1145
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 1: prioritized over deep ball passing.

1146
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 3: I think it depends on the kind of game, right,

1147
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 3: I mean we we also saw a game last night

1148
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 3: where there were you know, like what eighty some odd

1149
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 3: points scored or something, or it's definitely seventy points, right,

1150
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 3: I forget off the top of my head. But the

1151
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 3: point is, I think it depends. It depends on the

1152
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 3: kind of game you're talking about, and certain games will

1153
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 3: play out differently, and I think coaches and play callers

1154
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 3: will govern themselves accordingly. You know, the Browns and Placo

1155
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 3: a thirteen to ten game. I think that's one where

1156
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 3: if the if the Packers aren't moving the ball and

1157
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 3: you're the Browns and your defense is doing a hell

1158
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 3: of a job, Like you have to assume it was.

1159
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 3: I didn't see the game. Well, you're gonna probably call

1160
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 3: a conservative game. And I mean, you think that's that's

1161
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 3: kind of a decision that probably is made in the moment, right,

1162
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 3: the Vikings the defense playing great, two defensive scores, the

1163
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 3: Bengals not moving the ball on the other hand, Right,

1164
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 3: so you you govern yourself differently. Even the Colts for

1165
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 3: some you know, to some extent. Now they scored plenty

1166
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 3: of points, but when did Jonathan Taylor really take over

1167
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 3: that game in the second half when they had a

1168
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 3: big lead, Right, So I would say it it is

1169
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 3: game to game. But but what your what your point

1170
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 3: proves though, is that you you do have to be

1171
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 3: able to win different ways. And I and I also

1172
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 3: think that the running game matters here too.

1173
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 5: Uh.

1174
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 3: There's some fantastic running backs in the league right now,

1175
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 3: and that's they're a factor here too. The running game

1176
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 3: is not dead, I'm happy to say, because I think

1177
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 3: that we we did overlook that and there was that

1178
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 3: whole period of like, don't pay your running back because

1179
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 3: it won't be worth it. Well, I mean you think

1180
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 3: the Colts regret paying Johnson Taylor right now. I don't

1181
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 3: think we talk about that enough, right, I mean, just

1182
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 3: two years ago they were at war with each other.

1183
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor and the Colts were at war. He and

1184
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 3: his agent were telling me privately, yeah we're done. Yeah right,

1185
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 3: I mean I can be honest about it now. I mean,

1186
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 3: where do people think my sources were? He was a

1187
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 3: freaking source, right, So, like my point is this that

1188
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 3: has paid off? I mean wonderfully all right, No one

1189
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 3: was complaining about that when he was taking that forty

1190
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 3: six yard run to the house on Sunday. So I'm

1191
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 3: all over the place here. But I do think there's

1192
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 3: lots of little factors and a good coaching and teams

1193
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 3: that are built the right way can win without maybe

1194
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 3: the big three hundred yard passing games. It's harder to do,

1195
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 3: but it can be done. That's true.

1196
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: Okay. Lastly, Steven, Steven Holder our guest through three weeks

1197
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 1: usually like right about the time is right about the

1198
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: time statistically, certainly speaking, where you do start to get

1199
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 1: a better idea as to who's legit and who's not. Okay,

1200
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 1: when you look right now at the NFL through game

1201
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: three or week three, give me two teams. Let's say

1202
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:24,719
Speaker 1: one to the good and one to the bad whose

1203
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 1: record is a little misleading as to who they are,

1204
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 1: because either they've gotten off to a good record and

1205
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, but you got to look below the

1206
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,640
Speaker 1: surface that's maybe a little misleading, or one that that

1207
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: has gotten off to a slow start, but you have

1208
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: to look at who they played or circumstances and say,

1209
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 1: don't work, don't sleep on them just yet.

1210
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 3: So this will not be a popular answer, but I'm

1211
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 3: gonna say it. I think the KOLs have to prove

1212
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 3: some things. They're three and zero and they have earned it. Now.

1213
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 3: The fact is the Titans and Dolphins, I mean they're

1214
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 3: combined oh in six Okay, they haven't done anything. They've

1215
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 3: barely moved the ball this year. So I think we

1216
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 3: need to find out that. That's why this Week four

1217
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 3: game is so important. That is not to suggest I

1218
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 3: don't believe in them. I'm not saying that. I actually

1219
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 3: here's a reason to believe in the Colts because they

1220
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,520
Speaker 3: played two bad teams, yes, in the Dolphins and Titans,

1221
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:29,719
Speaker 3: but they pounded them. I mean they they did whatever

1222
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 3: they wanted. That is not the Colts team. We are

1223
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 3: familiar with. We are familiar with a Colts team that

1224
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,560
Speaker 3: even just last year when they were competing for the playoffs,

1225
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 3: was just skating by the Jets and Patriots. Right, So

1226
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 3: this is a different season for sure. So but let's

1227
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 3: see this is why this will be their biggest tests

1228
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 3: on the road, Sean McVay, Matthew Stafford. Let's find out

1229
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 3: what they're made of. On the other end, I guess

1230
01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 3: a team that maybe is who's back record is deceiving

1231
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 3: you think? Is that what you're saying? Yeah, you know,

1232
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 3: I want to say the Houston Texans, but I don't

1233
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 3: know if I believe it. I think they might be bad.

1234
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree.

1235
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 3: One side of my brain is like, well, duh, they're

1236
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 3: not owing. They're not as bad as a three team.

1237
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 1: Is Kansas City really one and two? You know what

1238
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, I know they are saying.

1239
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 3: Now they're not are They don't scare you right now?

1240
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 3: There's no question about that. Although I would say this,

1241
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 3: Mahomes is the greatest winner I've seen outside of Tom Brady.

1242
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 3: He just knows how to win. They know how to win.

1243
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 3: So look, we thought they were down late last year

1244
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 3: and then what what they do. They went to the

1245
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 3: freaking Super Bowl right late last season. We were just

1246
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 3: waiting for somebody to figure it out and beat them

1247
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 3: in the playoffs, and all they did was just win,

1248
01:10:56,479 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 3: you know, So I never bury those guys. And I

1249
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 3: think it's going to be one of the great storylines

1250
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 3: of the rest of this season is do the Chiefs

1251
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 3: figure it out? Because either way, whether whether they're dead.

1252
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 3: They're not dead, but whether they're whether they fall off,

1253
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 3: or whether they make or run, it's a great story

1254
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 3: either way because we're going to be paying attention. So

1255
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 3: I am fascinated by it without question.

1256
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 1: Can you imagine being a sports talk radio guy in

1257
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 1: New Orleans You're talking about the oh to three Saints.

1258
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: You wanted to deviate from it so it's Pelican's chat time.

1259
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 1: I mean, how miserable must that be?

1260
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 3: Right?

1261
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 1: I guess it's all LSU all the time, right, And

1262
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: then you.

1263
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 3: Got to do it. Brian Kelly, there's that too.

1264
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: I know.

1265
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Sorry Brian Kelly. By the way, I mean,

1266
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 3: he seems lovely, doesn't need he seems lovely.

1267
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: He has the most punishable face in college football. I

1268
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 1: don't know if I should say that, but I'm saying

1269
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: it right.

1270
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 3: I mean, the guy just bugs me. Man, I don't

1271
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 3: know what it is. That guy bothers me. I see him,

1272
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 3: come on the screen. I want to change the channel.

1273
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 1: Ryan Kelly, of course, has a famous tirade just couple

1274
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,600
Speaker 1: of weeks ago in a college football press conference, and

1275
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 1: a guy that has perhaps one of the most famous

1276
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 1: just found out that he's in the unemployment line. I

1277
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 1: will tell you who that is just a couple of

1278
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 1: minutes from now. But Steven Holder appreciate the time as always. Man,

1279
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon, all right, all right, I'll

1280
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:17,640
Speaker 1: talk you soon, all right, Steven Holder joining us. Just

1281
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 1: came out while we were talking to Steven. There's a

1282
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 1: guy in college football that's one of the bigger names,

1283
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 1: and for the last decade or so has been at

1284
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 1: one of the bigger programs and just found out that

1285
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: he now is looking for work. We'll let you know

1286
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:35,879
Speaker 1: who it is next. So one of the more famous.

1287
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Speaker 1: And I can't believe, at least based on the math

1288
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 1: and based on his age, that it's been eighteen years

1289
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 1: since this famous rant that took place. And when you

1290
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 1: think about great mullets, you know there's been some great

1291
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: mullets in sports to an extent. Andrea Agassi had a

1292
01:12:53,960 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 1: great mullet, you know, back in obviously like the Nasty Boys.

1293
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: I think Rob Dibble had a pretty good mullet. If

1294
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:08,679
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, Brian Bosworth had an awesome mullet. Mike

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01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 1: Gundhy of Oklahoma State, who I believe I'm ninety percent

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Speaker 1: certain in this that he had played college football at

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01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State and Oklahoma State. Listen, I get it. I

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01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 1: mean we're in Indiana. What the hell does anybody care

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01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 1: about Oklahoma State? I get it. But Oklahoma State is

1300
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 1: one of those programs that you know, has always been

1301
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 1: a decent college football program. Obviously Barry Sanders, you know

1302
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 1: out of Oklahoma State, they've had good teams. And Mike

1303
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 1: Gundhy when he went off on this rant at that time,

1304
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 1: saw fairly new.

1305
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 4: Come after me.

1306
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 7: I'm a man, I'm forty, I'm not a kid.

1307
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 4: So get your facts straight.

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01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 1: That's right, get him straight. Eight years old. Mike Gundy

1309
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,679
Speaker 1: today found out in his twenty first season in Oklahoma

1310
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: State that it will be his last. He has been terminated,

1311
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: effective immediately. He had said, just yesterday, I'm in a

1312
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: contract here for I think three and a half years

1313
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 1: when I was hired here to take this job. Ever

1314
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,679
Speaker 1: since that day, I put my heart and soul into

1315
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 1: this and I will continue to do that until at

1316
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: some point if I say I don't want to do it,

1317
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 1: or somebody else says we don't want you to do it.

1318
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State has said that he has owed fifteen million dollars.

1319
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: He has a record of one hundred and seventy and

1320
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: ninety from two thousand and five to today, eight ten

1321
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:40,879
Speaker 1: win seasons, eight of them the twenty eleven Big Twelve

1322
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:45,719
Speaker 1: title and finished number three in the top twenty five

1323
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 1: and in the Fiesta Bowl that year. Now, that is

1324
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 1: a school, Oklahoma State with endless pockets. And I know

1325
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 1: that sounds crazy, and that's probably part of the reason

1326
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 1: why MTT Gundy, Mike Gundy has been let go is

1327
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 1: because T. Boone Pickens was a huge, huge contributor financially

1328
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 1: and booster for Oklahoma State. He basically built kind of

1329
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 1: that program, built their stadium. I think he gave them,

1330
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 1: I mean literally multi hundreds of millions of dollars athletically

1331
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 1: or to the university itself. And the reason I mentioned

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01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 1: all that this will start, and I don't know. I'm

1333
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 1: sure it says here who their interim will be. I'm

1334
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 1: going to assume that their interim coach will be some

1335
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 1: you know, whoever the associate head coach is, or somebody

1336
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 1: that's that's right now. But in terms of by the way,

1337
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 1: yesterday was the seventeenth anniversary of the famous I'm a man,

1338
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 1: I'm forty rant, so I guess he was actually forty

1339
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 1: one when he said it. But this will begin the

1340
01:15:55,840 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 1: coaching carousel. And the only reason I mentioned that in

1341
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 1: terms of the coaching carousel and on a sports talk

1342
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 1: radio show in Indianapolis. As Indiana continues to impress and

1343
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 1: as indiana continues to win games, Kurt Signetti's national profile

1344
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 1: will only increase. I don't believe for a second that

1345
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:30,839
Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti has and I want people that are listening

1346
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 1: right now that are hearing my voice to understand what

1347
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying here. I don't believe for a second that

1348
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti has any interest, desire, or is looking in

1349
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 1: any way, shape or form to leave Indiana. I think

1350
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 1: he is as happy as a pig in slop in

1351
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 1: bloomings in Indiana. He was at JMU. He built a

1352
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: great program at James Madison. Obviously, you know he's been

1353
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 1: to other places as well, Indiana, Pennsylvania, and you know,

1354
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 1: but and other schools before JMU. But when he came

1355
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:10,799
Speaker 1: to Bloomington, he made it known essentially, I love the town,

1356
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 1: I love the school, I love the program, I love

1357
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 1: the fans. I have no interest in leaving. And that's

1358
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:21,600
Speaker 1: probably true. Matter of fact, I think it is true.

1359
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying Oklahoma State is a school that

1360
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 1: goes after Kurt Signetti. But Florida's going to be looking

1361
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 1: for a coach. I don't think Clemson's going to be

1362
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 1: looking for a coach. But let's just say for the

1363
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 1: sake of argument, they are. I don't think it's going

1364
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 1: to be the case, and I don't think Alabama's going to.

1365
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 1: But when you start getting into those big time football

1366
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 1: is life SEC or ACC Southeast part of the Country

1367
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 1: boosters galore, you start getting into schools that are willing

1368
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 1: to pay big time money, and in addition that they

1369
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 1: want to win now, and they will look around at

1370
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 1: guys and say who has proven they can win now?

1371
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 1: And Signetti's name is going to come up on lists.

1372
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:21,759
Speaker 1: It absolutely is, and I know that he has said,

1373
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 1: and I believe and all of that that he has

1374
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: no interest in going. My only thing is everything changes

1375
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,600
Speaker 1: all of a sudden when you start talking about some

1376
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 1: of the money that's being thrown around. And you know

1377
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 1: what's really interesting is if you look at some schools,

1378
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: they have super wealthy alumni and boosters, well alumni, but

1379
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 1: not necessarily boosters. In other words, at a Stanford. I'm

1380
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,640
Speaker 1: going off assumption here, so maybe that's dangerous, but I

1381
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 1: think there are a lot of schools where a degree

1382
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 1: from that university or going to that school put you

1383
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 1: in a position financially speaking, just within the business world

1384
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 1: where you're gonna make a lot of money. But a

1385
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 1: lot of those schools, the people that go on to

1386
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: make a lot of money, they think of their school

1387
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 1: in the academic sense, but not necessarily in the I

1388
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 1: need to support this financially to get us the best

1389
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 1: coach sense. Whereas at in Indiana, and I'm just throwing

1390
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 1: out in big state universities here, a Mississippi, state of Florida,

1391
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 1: South Carolina, you can get people that live in those

1392
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 1: areas that didn't even attend the school but have a

1393
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:46,520
Speaker 1: huge pride in the fact that it's a state university

1394
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 1: and where they live, and they think of it almost

1395
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 1: as like the professional team of their respective area where

1396
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 1: they're living, and therefore they're going to give it a

1397
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 1: bunch of money. And then all of a sudden, a

1398
01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 1: Florida or a school like that comes and they're like, hey,

1399
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 1: we understand that Kurt Signetti has mentioned that the Heat

1400
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 1: does not want to leave Indiana, but we're going to

1401
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 1: make him an offer of twelve and a half million

1402
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:11,719
Speaker 1: dollars a year or whatever. I mean, I think Dapol

1403
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 1: Sweeney's making nine and a half ten Saban was making ten.

1404
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 1: I would bet you well like it says right here.

1405
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 1: I mean if Gundy's owed fifteen and a half or

1406
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 1: fifteen million over a three years, so he was getting

1407
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,719
Speaker 1: at a probably and that's probably the minimum base of five.

1408
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 1: That doesn't include coaches, show and camps and whatever else

1409
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 1: and shoe contracts and all that.

1410
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 3: Right.

1411
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 1: So, I mean, there is big, big, big time money

1412
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 1: out there, but it all has to start with one

1413
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 1: of the big time, deep pocket throw money at it

1414
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 1: programs to be looking for a coach to start jump

1415
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:50,759
Speaker 1: starting and setting the market value for big time coaches

1416
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 1: in Oklahoma State is probably one.

1417
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 2: Of them, Jake, I know cooks and Signette's also a man,

1418
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:57,919
Speaker 2: but he's not forty, he's sixty four, and he's highlighted

1419
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 2: that that this is probably a final spot totally. He's

1420
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 2: not interesting in going somewhere else and doing another build up.

1421
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 2: Like to me, it becomes fascinating if Clemson or Alabama

1422
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 2: came a calling, because those because those are pilgrims, right,

1423
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 2: you don't have to build up.

1424
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 1: Right, that's correct? Yeah, I think the only way right

1425
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 1: now eight million for Signetti.

1426
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 2: Especially for Alabama because of his time there. I know

1427
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 2: he was there with saving but still.

1428
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:26,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's making let's say, with everything all together,

1429
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 1: he's making nine in Indiana. If Oklahoma State sets the

1430
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 1: bar now somewhere where they really overpay for somebody or

1431
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:35,640
Speaker 1: they go out, then all of a sudden in Alabama

1432
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 1: or a Florida is looking, they may say, look, we

1433
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 1: got to pony up fifteen million for a coach. And

1434
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 1: I do think that he is going to be on

1435
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 1: people's radar. I don't personally think he's gonna leave. I

1436
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 1: think and I have no reason to believe. There's been

1437
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:51,720
Speaker 1: no insinuation. None of that I mean it is. It's

1438
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 1: not irresponsible to me to throw it out there. I'm

1439
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 1: just simply saying his name, absolutely with certainty, is going

1440
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 1: to come up, and the number is only going to increase,

1441
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 1: probably because this is an intriguing domino to fall, an

1442
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 1: intriguing one to fall in terms of intrigue for the Colts.

1443
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 1: We will get you caught up on the intrigue of

1444
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 1: what may or may not be news on their injury report,

1445
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 1: and we'll do it next. So the Colts have announced

1446
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 1: their unofficial depth chart for their game against the Rams.

1447
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 1: When you want to talk about unofficial, I would say

1448
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 1: considering that the game is that far away, but they

1449
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 1: do it each and every week. The real case that

1450
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 1: it's unofficial, the proof of the pudden would be the

1451
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 1: fact that they have right now as they're starting nickel

1452
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 1: Kenny Moore on their depth chart and wide receiver Alec Pierce.

1453
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 1: It does note Pierce left game number three with a

1454
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 1: concussion and is currently in concussion protocol. It does note

1455
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 1: Kenny Moore recorded his fourth career pick six against the Titans,

1456
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: later exited the game of a calf injury. There has

1457
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 1: been no update on the availability of either. But as

1458
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 1: Stephen Holder mentioned to us Kenny Moore, one would assume

1459
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 1: the safe bet would be that he will miss the

1460
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 1: game against the Rams. Now, speaking of betting, that's something

1461
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,759
Speaker 1: you could do if you were in Vegas. That's exactly

1462
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 1: where the Fever are there. Not there to gamble, obviously,

1463
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 1: but there to play in game number two against the

1464
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: Aces tonight nine thirty tip. You can hear that right

1465
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 1: here on this radio station, meaning that Eddie Garrison will

1466
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: be in the pregame show at nine point fifteen. Correct, Yeah,

1467
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 1: I'll be on until hopefully midnight, Eddie. Oftentimes we see

1468
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:46,640
Speaker 1: teams go in and kind of steal a game one, Yeah,

1469
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 1: and then you know, I'm trying to think of it

1470
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 1: just seems and feels like a lot of times that's

1471
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 1: kind of a wake up call if there is a

1472
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:03,679
Speaker 1: a pretty clear gap in terms terms of a roster

1473
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 1: versus the favorite, if you will, and I think most

1474
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:10,839
Speaker 1: people thought the Aces, you know, were a huge favorite

1475
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 1: in this particular series. And so usually when there's that

1476
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 1: kind of a disparity, a team that loses Game one

1477
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:21,640
Speaker 1: turns around and quickly responds, I'm curious to see what

1478
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 1: will happen. I do think that. I just think this

1479
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 1: Fever team and the way that they're playing the Kelsey

1480
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 1: Mitchell has just been I mean, she has really elevated

1481
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 1: her game over the last team two months. She's been

1482
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 1: She's the most valuable player in the league. I know

1483
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 1: she's not named the MVP, but she is playing as

1484
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 1: the most valuable player in the league. She has set

1485
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 1: a single season scoring mark for uh, you know, for

1486
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 1: the Fever, and I just think she's been huge. Now,

1487
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 1: I did see yesterday and I do think that, and

1488
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that we will have coach Stephanie White on

1489
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 1: this week in one of the things that we can

1490
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 1: ask her. I don't believe this will come to fruition,

1491
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 1: but I wanted to ask you about it, Eddie.

1492
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 2: Okay.

1493
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 1: I saw yesterday several people mentioning that there is that

1494
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 1: they believe and I could be totally off base on this.

1495
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 1: I might have fallen victim to you know. It was

1496
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 1: one of those things I quickly saw it, like in Passerby,

1497
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 1: that there is still the possibility, based on the language

1498
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 1: of the way that it was done, of the timing

1499
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 1: or whatever else, that Caitlin Clark could be have eligibility

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01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: in the postseason. Now, did I totally misread that? I

1501
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 1: don't think that would be the I cannot foresee a

1502
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 1: possibility of her getting on the floor, but that it

1503
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 1: is not entirely out of the realm of possibility if

1504
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 1: there was some situation where she was needed.

1505
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 2: That the phrasing word for word was indianaf regard Catley

1506
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 2: Clark will miss the remainder of the twenty twenty five

1507
01:25:58,120 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 2: the NBA season.

1508
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that again, I have no reason to

1509
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 1: believe that they have any thought of her playing on

1510
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:06,759
Speaker 1: the floor.

1511
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,680
Speaker 2: And listen, I understand that she's a great player, but

1512
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 2: why would you why would you mess with what's working

1513
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 2: right now?

1514
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 1: So that's the other question. I understand she's a great player.

1515
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 1: I understand that over the course of a season, when

1516
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 1: you have her available, that's exactly and obviously what you

1517
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:31,719
Speaker 1: were going to do. But are they right now playing

1518
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 1: better as a team than they have at any point

1519
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 1: when she has been on the floor. And that's not

1520
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,599
Speaker 1: a knock on her, she was not healthy and has

1521
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:43,680
Speaker 1: not been around for the better part of it. But

1522
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 1: it does feel, does it not that right now the

1523
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 1: sum is better than the individual parts that they have

1524
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 1: had in the past, and that their cohesiveness right now

1525
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:56,600
Speaker 1: is really strong. And I think part of it is

1526
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 1: because of the fact that there is no doubt of

1527
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 1: where they're going on offensively through Kelsey Mitchell, and that's

1528
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 1: been a difference for then Mattie.

1529
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 2: I mean, that's an easy yes, Jake, just because of

1530
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 2: the fact that and I she has not played Caitlin Clark.

1531
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 2: She did not play five consecutive games with at the

1532
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 2: any point this year. You have to remember, dating back

1533
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 2: to even when camp was starting, she was dealing with

1534
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 2: a quad injury, so it sidelined her for a couple

1535
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:24,639
Speaker 2: of days, if not a week, and then she starts

1536
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 2: the season, plays the first four games, then she sidelined

1537
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 2: for two weeks with U that was the quad strained,

1538
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:34,639
Speaker 2: and then she comes back against New York, plays three

1539
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 2: games against Golden State. Actually she plays another series of

1540
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 2: four games, and then she reaggravates she has another injury,

1541
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 2: but the groin groin issue, and now it's the other going.

1542
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 2: So like it's hard to really say that she even

1543
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:54,560
Speaker 2: had a chance to really have you know, the togetherness

1544
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 2: and the connective, you know, level of play that the

1545
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 2: fever have right now when she was on the floor,

1546
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 2: just because she just wasn't on the floor for an

1547
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 2: extended period of time to really give you an answer

1548
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 2: on how the season would look if she was out

1549
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 2: there for the majority of the year.

1550
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 1: I actually think, I mean, they are six wins away. Yes,

1551
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 1: I think they could. I honestly think they could win it.

1552
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 1: I think I think they may win this series against

1553
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:20,799
Speaker 1: lesban I do I think they're gonna beat the Aces.

1554
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 2: I could see it, especially now that they have home

1555
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 2: court advantage. You know, my cousin works for the Aces, really,

1556
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 2: but she just had a baby. I don't know if

1557
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 2: she's like on leave or or what, but I'd like

1558
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,559
Speaker 2: to maybe we could get her for some insight. Also,

1559
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 2: it feels Jake like right now they're in their quote

1560
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 2: unquote mid season form, Like did the Aces already peak?

1561
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,679
Speaker 2: Like they had that seventeen game win streak, Now they've

1562
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 2: lost two of their last three games, Like have they

1563
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 2: are they coming back down a little bit? Do they

1564
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 2: already peak? I know, Asian Wilson in that group is very,

1565
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 2: very good, but when you win seventeen consecutive games, you

1566
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 2: don't really have to overcome a lot of adversity, So

1567
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 2: how are they going to respond? I think is a

1568
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:04,759
Speaker 2: big question.

1569
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: When we come back Scott Act's going to join us

1570
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 1: thirty five from now. We will get into this. But

1571
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 1: I am curious by the way the question that I

1572
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 1: asked to Steven Holder, I would like to know from

1573
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:18,800
Speaker 1: you folks the team in the NFL right now, Like

1574
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 1: are you convinced the culture for real? Number one? But

1575
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:25,559
Speaker 1: what other team are you the most unsure about? Who

1576
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 1: is the most intriguing, either because you're not convinced they're

1577
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 1: as good as the record says, or you think they're

1578
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 1: probably better than the record says. And we have tickets

1579
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 1: to go away, do we not, Eddie? We do for

1580
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 1: MGK okay, so we will do all of that on

1581
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:41,719
Speaker 1: the other side. Two three nine one zero seven zero.

1582
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,840
Speaker 1: That's two three nine ten seventy And as the kids

1583
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 1: would say in the street, lingo two three nine one

1584
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:49,639
Speaker 1: zero seven zero two things that we want to get

1585
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 1: to here when you call in number one, I'd like

1586
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:53,679
Speaker 1: to know which team you find to be the most

1587
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:57,680
Speaker 1: intriguing right now? And number two, Eddie will come up

1588
01:29:57,720 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 1: with the way that we are giving away those tickets

1589
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:01,919
Speaker 1: and will get you all the information on that MGK

1590
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 1: concert that he used to be Machine Gun Kelly. Now

1591
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 1: he's just MGK. Right, Yes, did they still have MGD? Oh?

1592
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 2: What MGD?

1593
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:13,599
Speaker 1: I used to love MGD in the bottle?

1594
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 2: Not familiar.

1595
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:14,600
Speaker 3: You know.

1596
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,640
Speaker 1: A weird fun fact about me is when I go

1597
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:19,760
Speaker 1: somewhere to have a beer, I have to have it

1598
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:22,680
Speaker 1: on draft. But the only one that I'll drink out

1599
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 1: of the bottle used to be MGD.

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01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 5: Oh.

1601
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 2: By the way, Thomas just signed a one year deal

1602
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:28,440
Speaker 2: with the Cavaliers.

1603
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 1: Okay, good for the former Pacer and former HOO'SA right

1604
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 1: two through nine, ten seventy. We'll talk next, Okay, Scott

1605
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:39,920
Speaker 1: Agnes coming up bottom of the hour. We'll get into

1606
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:43,759
Speaker 1: the Fever matchup tonight. Also, as Eddie had just mentioned,

1607
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:50,439
Speaker 1: Thomas Bryant now a member of the Cleveland Cavaliers. I

1608
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:52,599
Speaker 1: thought Bryant played really well for the Pacers last year.

1609
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:58,760
Speaker 1: But there were times, and you know, maybe maybe I'm

1610
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 1: the only one that thought this. I don't think it

1611
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 1: was the most popular opinion, necessarily because I liked him,

1612
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 1: and he came on this program a couple of times

1613
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:10,679
Speaker 1: and was always enjoyable. We had him on, but Thomas Bryant.

1614
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 1: I thought Eddie there were times where his emotion it

1615
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 1: was a good thing most of the time, but there

1616
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 1: were also times where I thought he got a little

1617
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 1: too emotional on the floor and kind of not that

1618
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 1: he was a detriment per se.

1619
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 2: Before his emotions get the better of him.

1620
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean not even like in a getting a

1621
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 1: technical foul kind of way, but just in a lack

1622
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 1: of focus kind of way, if that makes sense. Yes,

1623
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 1: So we have tickets to give away, by the way,

1624
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:44,679
Speaker 1: for MGK. This is going to be Saturday. That's this Saturday,

1625
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 1: is it not? In a wait a minute, is that right?

1626
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:52,639
Speaker 1: June twentieth, next year? It's for next year. Yeah, okay,

1627
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:55,559
Speaker 1: well that gives you plenty of time to plan.

1628
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:56,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does.

1629
01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 1: June twentieth at Ruop Music Center. He was just here,

1630
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:04,839
Speaker 1: I believe, was he not? He might have been.

1631
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 2: Here when the State Favor was here because of his

1632
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 2: album debuting and he was doing like an album signing

1633
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:13,439
Speaker 2: at a couple of different vinyl shops or something like that.

1634
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 1: Now, let me ask you this, when did he have

1635
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 1: an album? This is going to basically exhaust my level

1636
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 1: of knowledge of MGK. Did he have an album, Eddie,

1637
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 1: can you look up for me his albums and tell

1638
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 1: me if and I'm going to guess the year. Also,

1639
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to say sometime around twenty eighteen or twenty

1640
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 1: nineteen he had an album called Hotel Diablo. Am I

1641
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 1: correcting that? Am I way off base?

1642
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 2: Let me look, I actually don't know much about.

1643
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to be very impressed by myself. He had

1644
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 1: a song called L Diablo L Diablo? Okay did he have?

1645
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 3: Oh?

1646
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:50,720
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1647
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:53,479
Speaker 2: Said the album was named it was his fourth album

1648
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 2: that he ever released.

1649
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 1: And what year was that album at? Twenty nineteen? Do

1650
01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:02,120
Speaker 1: we have an applause button that we can play thank you?

1651
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 1: I know that only because he came into the radio

1652
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:09,559
Speaker 1: station and there were a bunch of fans that showed

1653
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 1: up and they baked him the most unbelievably impressive cake

1654
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 1: I've ever seen, in the shape of a hotel.

1655
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 2: I've got something better. We don't have applause, but we

1656
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:19,880
Speaker 2: do have this.

1657
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:27,640
Speaker 1: Thank you the National Sports Festival. Baby. They made him

1658
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 1: this cake. These fans literally just knew that he was

1659
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:32,600
Speaker 1: at the radio station, like on the air, and they

1660
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:34,200
Speaker 1: showed up in the parking lot with this cake that

1661
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 1: they'd made for him, and it was the most beautiful,

1662
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:44,840
Speaker 1: unbelievable multi tiered, looked like a hotel in a cake.

1663
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:48,919
Speaker 1: And I felt so bad because they wanted so badly

1664
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 1: for him to eat it, or for all of us

1665
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 1: to like, you know, cut it up and eat it.

1666
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:57,679
Speaker 1: And of course that's when you have people that you've

1667
01:33:57,680 --> 01:33:59,639
Speaker 1: never met before they're like, here, I made you something

1668
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:03,120
Speaker 1: to eat. There was a little bit of a hesitation there, right,

1669
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:07,320
Speaker 1: But we will give away tickets here coming up in

1670
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 1: just a bit for it. But I would like to

1671
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:13,360
Speaker 1: know this. If you look over the NFL right now

1672
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:17,800
Speaker 1: and you look at the standings in the National Football League,

1673
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of like we were talking about

1674
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 1: in college football. In college football right now, you look

1675
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 1: at the top ten and you're like, okay, I mean,

1676
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:30,960
Speaker 1: you know Texas, Texas is three and one now after

1677
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:33,599
Speaker 1: they're lost to Ohio State, but they literally have beaten

1678
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:39,919
Speaker 1: like Sam Houston State, Warren Central, and Ivy Tech. Okay,

1679
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 1: how do you have no idea how good a three

1680
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 1: in one they are in the NFL When you look

1681
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:49,880
Speaker 1: over the teams right now, we talked about it, of

1682
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 1: the teams that are unbeaten Eddie, And this is what

1683
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:56,720
Speaker 1: I want to know from people. Okay, of the Unbeatens,

1684
01:34:57,200 --> 01:35:03,839
Speaker 1: the Colts, the Bills, the charge Okay, the Niners, the Bucks,

1685
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:08,559
Speaker 1: and who's the last one I'm missing here? Eagles and

1686
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:13,760
Speaker 1: the Eagles. Of those teams, which one feels like? And

1687
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:16,400
Speaker 1: I guess you know here we're going to say the Colts.

1688
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:18,479
Speaker 1: You kind of have to take them out of it

1689
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:22,240
Speaker 1: because we've watched the Colts for every quarter. But the

1690
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 1: one that is the most I think enigmatic at three

1691
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 1: and oh are the one where you're just kind of

1692
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:30,920
Speaker 1: the least hesitant to immediately crown them as you're being

1693
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 1: overly convinced, would be, in my opinion, probably Tampa Bay.

1694
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:40,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you know they just got a win where

1695
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 1: they needed a field goal to defeat the Jets. Yeah,

1696
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 1: I mean, how good are the Jets?

1697
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 3: Right?

1698
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:50,200
Speaker 1: How bad are the all? Though? The Jets I think

1699
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 1: can move the football. But the three and oh teams

1700
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 1: that I think the Chargers are really good, and then

1701
01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:59,720
Speaker 1: I think Buffalo's obviously really good, and Philly it goes

1702
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 1: without saying, but if you had to go with the

1703
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:06,720
Speaker 1: three and zero team of which you are the most skeptical, Eddie,

1704
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:07,840
Speaker 1: you would go with which.

1705
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 2: I would probably still go with the Colts, or I

1706
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 2: would go with the Buccaneers.

1707
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 1: Okay, so you would go with Tampa also, yeah, I'll

1708
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:17,759
Speaker 1: see what Chris thinks at two, three, nine, ten seventy.

1709
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 1: What's up? Chris?

1710
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:20,920
Speaker 3: Hold on a whole lot? How you guys done?

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01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:22,719
Speaker 1: All right? Chris? Have you called the show before?

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01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 5: No?

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01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 3: I have not.

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01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 1: You sound like a fun guy, Chris. Do you mind

1715
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 1: if we play a little get to know your listener.

1716
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of success to this. Kids love

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01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 1: this segment that we do. You would you be willing

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01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:32,520
Speaker 1: to participate?

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01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 3: Oh?

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01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:34,559
Speaker 5: Sure, why not?

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01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 1: Okay, Chris, if you don't mind me asking how old

1722
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:37,120
Speaker 1: a fella are you?

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01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:40,280
Speaker 8: Almost sixty?

1724
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 1: Now that wasn't a trick question, Chris, just so you know, Okay,

1725
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:47,800
Speaker 1: almost sixty you said, right, So I'm gonna guess Chris,

1726
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:50,000
Speaker 1: that puts your high school class somewhere around eighty two

1727
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 1: or eighty three? Am I right?

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01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 5: Eighty four?

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01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:55,360
Speaker 1: Eighty four? Okay? And that was from what high school?

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01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:58,400
Speaker 5: But it would have been Hayworth and Kocomo.

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01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:01,280
Speaker 1: Now como Hayworth High School?

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01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 5: You said, yes, sir, I was the last class out

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01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 5: of there.

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01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:07,680
Speaker 1: Next year, I was gonna say, did that consolidate in

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01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:10,759
Speaker 1: the Kokomo or then there was also Cocoma Western? Correct?

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01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:13,640
Speaker 1: Uh what Northwestern?

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01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:17,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, Northwesterns were actually my wife graduated. So there you go.

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01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go. And Chris, if you don't mind

1739
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:21,800
Speaker 1: me asking what line of work are you in now?

1740
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:24,240
Speaker 5: Manufacturing?

1741
01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:24,639
Speaker 3: Oh?

1742
01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:25,600
Speaker 1: What do you manufacture?

1743
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:29,719
Speaker 5: Mostly metals, sheet metal type stuff.

1744
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:31,880
Speaker 1: I thought for a second you were gonna say meth

1745
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:33,320
Speaker 1: and then I was going to be concerned.

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01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 5: You know, well, if it's profitable, we might try to say.

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01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:43,280
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, depending depending what part of in the area

1748
01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 1: are Chris, it might be okay. Chris, So you heard

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01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:48,599
Speaker 1: my question here in terms of the NFL. How big

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01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:51,960
Speaker 1: a Colts fan are you or who is your team?

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01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 5: Well, you know, over the past five or so years,

1752
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 5: the Colt's been kind of tough to like. But here

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01:37:57,240 --> 01:38:00,599
Speaker 5: lately I'm kind of gonna jump on the band wagon again,

1754
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 5: I think.

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01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:04,439
Speaker 1: Okay, do you believe I did see an interesting article,

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01:38:04,479 --> 01:38:06,639
Speaker 1: by the way, Chris that said, so far this year,

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01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:09,759
Speaker 1: the Colts have lost nearly one point five million dollars

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01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 1: in lack of ticket sales through the home games that

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01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:15,639
Speaker 1: they've had in terms of open seats that have been

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01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 1: up there. Do you think that's because people are slow

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01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:20,720
Speaker 1: to get on board? Do you think people are now

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01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:23,160
Speaker 1: sold on it? Where do you stand here in terms

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01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:25,040
Speaker 1: of you said you might get back on the bandwagon.

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01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 1: Where do you stand on it? How much more do

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01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 1: we need to do to convince you?

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01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:30,840
Speaker 5: Well, of course, win more games.

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01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:32,680
Speaker 8: I would do it, But I think part of it

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01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:36,559
Speaker 8: is like nobody likes uncertainty. You know, when they start

1769
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:38,200
Speaker 8: out the season what they don't even know who the

1770
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:40,599
Speaker 8: heck the quarterback is going to be and don't even

1771
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:41,720
Speaker 8: announce that until like.

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01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:44,679
Speaker 5: What a few weeks before the season starts. That's kind

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01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:45,479
Speaker 5: of tough, you know.

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Speaker 3: All right?

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01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 1: Fair Chris? By the way, is this, as you said,

1776
01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:50,840
Speaker 1: it's first time you've listened to this program? Have you

1777
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:52,960
Speaker 1: listened or that you've called in the program? Have you

1778
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 1: listened to it for a while? You know, on and

1779
01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:59,519
Speaker 1: off over the years, more often on right.

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01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:03,400
Speaker 5: Mostly when I'm in the car and I have a time.

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01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 1: All right, Well, that makes two of us, all right, Chris,

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01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. Last question. Then, by the way,

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01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 1: is it I want to know this of the three?

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01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:15,719
Speaker 1: And oh so the culture three and oh Buffalo, Tampa,

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01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:22,000
Speaker 1: the Chargers, Philadelphia, San Francisco, the others. Which one are

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01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:24,840
Speaker 1: you aside from the Colts, which one are you still

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01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 1: the most? You need more time to know how good

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01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 1: they are?

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01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:31,760
Speaker 5: Oh, boy, pro Way Tampa.

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01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:34,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's Chris. I appreciate it. That's the

1791
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:38,439
Speaker 1: overwhelming sentiment for certain would be Tampa, that Chris want

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01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:38,879
Speaker 1: the tickets.

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01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he went through gets to your listeners. So yeah,

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01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 2: he's good.

1795
01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:44,400
Speaker 1: So Chris has won the tickets.

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01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the one pair. We have another one to give

1797
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:49,479
Speaker 2: away we're gonna give. We're gonna we're gonna do the other.

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01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:51,320
Speaker 1: Color we have between now and June to give them

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01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:57,760
Speaker 1: a right. I mean that surprised me when I saw

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01:39:57,760 --> 01:39:59,479
Speaker 1: that we're giving the tickets away. Then I'll go it's

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01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:04,599
Speaker 1: in June. Yeah, I mean you probably should. The way

1802
01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:06,559
Speaker 1: this show's going, you might as well call in now

1803
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:07,960
Speaker 1: and get in secure your spot.

1804
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 3: Right.

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01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:12,519
Speaker 1: Yes, I want to get into that what I just

1806
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:17,000
Speaker 1: talked about, By the way, with the Colts. The article

1807
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:21,479
Speaker 1: I saw yesterday that was sent to me, and I

1808
01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:30,439
Speaker 1: was surprised by this because the do you remember a

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01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:33,800
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, Eddie, the word was that there

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01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:36,799
Speaker 1: was a season ticket You know, for years I always

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01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:39,320
Speaker 1: heard about the season ticket waiting list. Now I have

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01:40:39,439 --> 01:40:47,040
Speaker 1: been very, very skeptical of this because and several people

1813
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:49,040
Speaker 1: have pointed out to me to tell me that, in fact,

1814
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 1: I was wrong on this. But and I'm going back

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01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:54,679
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, but a couple of years

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01:40:54,720 --> 01:41:00,720
Speaker 1: ago when it was I can't remember the timing or situation,

1817
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 1: but there was a NonStop discussion about the Colts and

1818
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:09,120
Speaker 1: a waiting list for season tickets. And I remember at

1819
01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:13,960
Speaker 1: that time saying, who is on the waiting list? I

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01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 1: know Green Bay has a waiting list for season tickets.

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01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:19,000
Speaker 1: I had never I never met anybody. I know a

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01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:22,320
Speaker 1: lot of people with Colts season tickets. I never met

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01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:24,320
Speaker 1: anybody that was like, yeah, I'm on a waiting list

1824
01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:26,360
Speaker 1: for season tickets. It just seemed like they were kind

1825
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:29,559
Speaker 1: of always available if you wanted them. But that was

1826
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:34,640
Speaker 1: several years ago. But this article that was sent to

1827
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 1: me yesterday is talking about NFL teams and how much

1828
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:47,960
Speaker 1: they are estimated to have lost so far this season. Okay,

1829
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:52,479
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans are predicted to have lost one point

1830
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 1: nine million dollars per game from empty seats at Nissan

1831
01:41:57,040 --> 01:42:00,920
Speaker 1: Stadium with an average home attendance of fifty seven, seven

1832
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:03,840
Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen across the twenty five seasons so far.

1833
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:08,880
Speaker 1: That means there are around eleven thousand, four hundred empty

1834
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 1: seats per game. Okay, so that would come out to

1835
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 1: I don't know how many home games they've had. I

1836
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:19,320
Speaker 1: would assume too to that number one point nine. With

1837
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 1: an average ticket price of one hundred and sixty seven dollars,

1838
01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:25,599
Speaker 1: those empty seats could have cost the Titans. And then

1839
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:27,799
Speaker 1: it has a figure three million, eight hundred and sixteen,

1840
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 1: nine hundred and fifty two dollars over there. Yes, in fact,

1841
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:35,000
Speaker 1: two home games so far. Now, the teams with the

1842
01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 1: fewest empty seats so far in their home games the

1843
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, the Philadelphia Eagles, and the Washington Commanders. Washington

1844
01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 1: a little surprising because even though they have a loyal

1845
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:53,720
Speaker 1: fan base, obviously they've got more competition Baltimore's in the

1846
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:56,400
Speaker 1: same area. A lot of people that live in the

1847
01:42:56,479 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 1: DC area are not native to Washington, et cetera. Dallas.

1848
01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:02,479
Speaker 1: It kind of makes sense because people want to go

1849
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 1: just to go to Jerry's World. In Philly die hard

1850
01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:08,320
Speaker 1: fans and in addition to that really good team. Okay,

1851
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:14,880
Speaker 1: now this is surprising to me. The team with the

1852
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:20,559
Speaker 1: second highest loss is the Green Bay Packers, with an

1853
01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:24,479
Speaker 1: estimated one million, seven hundred and forty five, nine hundred

1854
01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:28,320
Speaker 1: and eighty six dollars lost per game. I have a

1855
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:31,160
Speaker 1: hard time believing that. But it says lambeau Field has

1856
01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:33,760
Speaker 1: a seedy capacity of eighty one thy, four hundred and

1857
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:38,200
Speaker 1: forty one, yet the team is attracting seventy seven thousand,

1858
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:43,320
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty four home fans this season. Now,

1859
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 1: that's assuming that the seats that are empty were not

1860
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:50,120
Speaker 1: sold in Lambeau. I don't think that's the case unless

1861
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:54,080
Speaker 1: there are some seats that are not available for season ticket.

1862
01:43:55,320 --> 01:44:00,600
Speaker 1: Other franchises that are estimated to be losing Minnesota, Jacksonville,

1863
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:05,280
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, the Bears, and the Cardinals. It says the

1864
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:10,320
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts are next, with three thousand and thirteen seats

1865
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:15,799
Speaker 1: left vacant after sixty nine and eighty seven home fans

1866
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:19,320
Speaker 1: filled the sixty seven thousand available seats at Lucas Oil Stadium.

1867
01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 1: The estimated ticket costs for the empty seats one hundred

1868
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:26,519
Speaker 1: ninety piece. This again seems I think a little bit

1869
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:31,559
Speaker 1: off base, but I do think there were, especially in

1870
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:37,719
Speaker 1: that Denver game, there were a lot of empty seats. Admittedly, Now,

1871
01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:42,280
Speaker 1: I will give benefit of the doubt here to the

1872
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:47,920
Speaker 1: fans of Indianapolis, and I'll tell you why I grew

1873
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:51,839
Speaker 1: up here. I love Indy. I've been to the games.

1874
01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 1: I went to the Denver game. I was not at

1875
01:44:57,080 --> 01:44:59,720
Speaker 1: the season opener against Miami because I got back a

1876
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:03,400
Speaker 1: little bit late, but I was there in Denver for

1877
01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 1: the Denver game. In the preseason games, I was there

1878
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:07,800
Speaker 1: as well. But one of the factors that I think

1879
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:12,360
Speaker 1: you have to take into consideration, Eddie, and I give

1880
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:16,640
Speaker 1: the people of Indianapolis and the Colts both benefit of

1881
01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 1: that doubt here. I don't think it's a knock on

1882
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 1: the Colts. I don't think now what Chris was saying

1883
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:24,599
Speaker 1: is probably correct in the fact that there were people

1884
01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 1: that were hesitant or skeptical going into the year just

1885
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:34,639
Speaker 1: because of the quarterbacking situation, the uncertainty thereof. But then, why, Jake,

1886
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:37,439
Speaker 1: why they're three and oh or they were two and

1887
01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:39,880
Speaker 1: oho going into well, I guess actually they were just

1888
01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:41,479
Speaker 1: one to oh when they're going into the Denver game,

1889
01:45:41,720 --> 01:45:44,120
Speaker 1: you know, Now, the next time that they're back home,

1890
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:46,439
Speaker 1: when they are playing on the fifth of August or

1891
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 1: the fifth of October against the Raiders, I would assume

1892
01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:52,080
Speaker 1: it's going to be absolutely packed to the gills, especially

1893
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:56,320
Speaker 1: if they beat the Rams. But I do understand this factor,

1894
01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:59,520
Speaker 1: and I think that people that don't live in Indianapolis,

1895
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:03,720
Speaker 1: or don't live in Minneapolis, or don't live in Detroit,

1896
01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:10,040
Speaker 1: I think they lose sight of this. We live in

1897
01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 1: climates where it gets cold, and it gets ugly, and

1898
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 1: it gets nasty, and once it gets that way, there's

1899
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:23,719
Speaker 1: no turning back for several months. I totally understand. Even

1900
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 1: if you are a season ticket holder for the Colts,

1901
01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:31,559
Speaker 1: I totally understand how there are people that would say

1902
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:37,280
Speaker 1: to themselves, look, I even have season tickets. But in

1903
01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:40,280
Speaker 1: late September and early October, when I look out on

1904
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 1: a Sunday and it is seventy two degrees, not a

1905
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 1: cloud in the sky, absolutely gorgeous, and the roof is closed,

1906
01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:53,280
Speaker 1: I totally now. I understand why the Colts close the roof,

1907
01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:55,600
Speaker 1: even though I get into my whole soapbox about the

1908
01:46:56,400 --> 01:47:01,479
Speaker 1: unnecessary expense of a retractable roof stadium. But when the

1909
01:47:01,479 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 1: weather is like that outside. I totally understand why people

1910
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:06,880
Speaker 1: are saying to themselves, we may not get another one

1911
01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:09,800
Speaker 1: of these days. I'm gonna enjoy it while I can.

1912
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:13,599
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go and walk the monon, or I'm gonna

1913
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 1: go and work in the yard and listen to the game,

1914
01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:18,040
Speaker 1: or watch the game on television, and come in and

1915
01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:21,960
Speaker 1: out and with the windows open and enjoy the weather

1916
01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:26,400
Speaker 1: before it turns all of a sudden into living in

1917
01:47:26,439 --> 01:47:27,880
Speaker 1: a Baltic region.

1918
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:29,599
Speaker 2: For four months, it was also a four to twenty

1919
01:47:29,640 --> 01:47:31,720
Speaker 2: five kick. So like, you're you know, probably to get you.

1920
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:34,519
Speaker 1: Home until eight. True, you're from southern Indiana. I mean,

1921
01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:36,599
Speaker 1: let's say you're from you know, you'd usually drive in

1922
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:39,720
Speaker 1: from I mean, look at Mo from Ohio drives two

1923
01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:41,600
Speaker 1: and a half hours, right. I mean that has to

1924
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:44,280
Speaker 1: be a factor as well on the later starts, for sure.

1925
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:48,760
Speaker 1: But I just think that you get into we are

1926
01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:52,000
Speaker 1: getting into that time of year where you just don't

1927
01:47:52,040 --> 01:47:56,400
Speaker 1: know when you get that last hurrah, that last push

1928
01:47:56,439 --> 01:47:59,720
Speaker 1: a beautiful weather. I think there are people that are like,

1929
01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:01,599
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, by the time I get up

1930
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:07,320
Speaker 1: think about this. Let's say it's a one o'clock kick Eddie. Okay,

1931
01:48:07,439 --> 01:48:11,120
Speaker 1: and let's say you live in we'll just say Zionsville.

1932
01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:14,720
Speaker 1: So you get down. Most people, if there's a one

1933
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:17,519
Speaker 1: o'clock kick, want to get in the vicinity of downtown

1934
01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:18,320
Speaker 1: around what time?

1935
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:19,040
Speaker 2: Probably noon?

1936
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:20,000
Speaker 6: Right?

1937
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:23,919
Speaker 1: What if you tailgate, Uh, you're like at eleven am.

1938
01:48:23,960 --> 01:48:26,120
Speaker 1: So let's say, I mean that's probably the latest ten

1939
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:30,559
Speaker 1: ten thirty. Okay, So let's say we'll say eleven. And

1940
01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:32,840
Speaker 1: at that case, you're leaving the house around what maybe

1941
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:35,080
Speaker 1: ten ten to fifteen the time you park everything else.

1942
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:37,920
Speaker 1: You're living in zions On probably ten o'clock. Yeah, okay,

1943
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:41,559
Speaker 1: game starts at one o'clock. What time dos the game end?

1944
01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:42,920
Speaker 2: Four?

1945
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:49,040
Speaker 1: That's probably that's a fast game, right, three hours? Yeah,

1946
01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:51,479
Speaker 1: about the time. So then by the time you get

1947
01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:52,880
Speaker 1: back to your car, you get in the car, you

1948
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:56,120
Speaker 1: drive back, so you're getting home around what four forty five,

1949
01:48:56,160 --> 01:49:01,000
Speaker 1: five o'clock, five thirty probably? Okay, So now you're looking

1950
01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:04,720
Speaker 1: at a seven and a half hour day, right, And

1951
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:07,840
Speaker 1: so I do get and there's nothing wrong with that.

1952
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:09,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it's all fun. It's awesome. I mean, I

1953
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:11,559
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, I'm not papooing any of it.

1954
01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:14,519
Speaker 1: But I do understand, especially if you have season tickets

1955
01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:18,160
Speaker 1: and there are say eight of them a year, why

1956
01:49:18,240 --> 01:49:20,200
Speaker 1: there might be one or two of them where you

1957
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:24,559
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously in that case, in a best case scenario,

1958
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:26,639
Speaker 1: you're giving the tickets to somebody that wants to go.

1959
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:29,680
Speaker 1: But I totally understand or respect why there may be

1960
01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:31,400
Speaker 1: some people that are like, you know what, we tried

1961
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:34,320
Speaker 1: to give the tickets away and we couldn't find anybody

1962
01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:36,479
Speaker 1: to go whatever. But it was just a gorgeous day.

1963
01:49:36,520 --> 01:49:38,479
Speaker 1: We wanted to go to the pumpkin pay you know whatever? Right,

1964
01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:43,880
Speaker 1: Simon says Simon, Do you have season tickets?

1965
01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:48,280
Speaker 9: Yes, sir, I do since since ninety six. Okay, I've

1966
01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:50,400
Speaker 9: had go ahead, I've had the same two tickets since

1967
01:49:50,479 --> 01:49:51,040
Speaker 9: ninety six.

1968
01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:51,479
Speaker 3: Okay.

1969
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:54,839
Speaker 1: So you heard what I was talking about, your thoughts

1970
01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:56,800
Speaker 1: or what compelled you to call in about it.

1971
01:49:57,720 --> 01:50:01,880
Speaker 9: So I have tried to add take two tickets to

1972
01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:03,400
Speaker 9: my account for.

1973
01:50:03,400 --> 01:50:06,200
Speaker 3: The last So I have a sun that just that's just.

1974
01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:08,360
Speaker 9: Now super interested that he's driving you can go to

1975
01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:08,760
Speaker 9: the game.

1976
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:11,879
Speaker 3: Let's take a buddy. So I want to add two tickets.

1977
01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:16,200
Speaker 9: There are tickets around my section because you know, every

1978
01:50:16,280 --> 01:50:20,280
Speaker 9: year you get the opportunity to upgrade. There are tickets

1979
01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:23,599
Speaker 9: that I can change to around my section, and I

1980
01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:28,520
Speaker 9: really don't want to leave the section i'm in, but

1981
01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:30,439
Speaker 9: but they're like, oh, well, we don't see there are

1982
01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:33,719
Speaker 9: no season tickets left. I know there are seats available, right,

1983
01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 9: So my take is, you know, in the section I'm in,

1984
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:41,639
Speaker 9: I'm in the lower level, and they're they're pretty sought after,

1985
01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:45,560
Speaker 9: like I feel like. And I've heard the word dynamic

1986
01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:50,160
Speaker 9: price or dynamic dynamic ticket pricing. I've heard that term

1987
01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:54,519
Speaker 9: used a lot where the Colts themselves actually compete in

1988
01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:57,960
Speaker 9: the secondary market with tickets that and they sell them

1989
01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:01,519
Speaker 9: for more money than what they're actually the face value

1990
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:04,599
Speaker 9: of what a season ticket holder can sell them for. Now,

1991
01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:06,680
Speaker 9: I don't have I mean, I've just heard this on

1992
01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:08,400
Speaker 9: the internet, right, and we all know everything on the

1993
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:09,120
Speaker 9: internet's true.

1994
01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:09,640
Speaker 1: That's right.

1995
01:51:10,600 --> 01:51:13,800
Speaker 9: There's something to that to that I believe because I

1996
01:51:13,880 --> 01:51:17,040
Speaker 9: have the ability to change seats in that section, even

1997
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:18,000
Speaker 9: though there's a waiting list.

1998
01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:20,200
Speaker 3: It's it's just it doesn't make sense.

1999
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:24,040
Speaker 9: And it seems very hold like and being very untransparent

2000
01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 9: with anything that's going on.

2001
01:51:25,439 --> 01:51:27,120
Speaker 6: It just I don't know.

2002
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 9: Now, I will say this as a season ticket holders

2003
01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:33,680
Speaker 9: since ninety six, even when they're horrible. I have my

2004
01:51:33,800 --> 01:51:35,519
Speaker 9: son and I love going to the games, and we

2005
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:39,120
Speaker 9: would walk out of there obviously picked off more times

2006
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:41,519
Speaker 9: than not, but still we have a We love the

2007
01:51:41,600 --> 01:51:45,320
Speaker 9: in game entertainment, even if it is Bachmann turning over

2008
01:51:45,479 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 9: drive playing everything down.

2009
01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:49,040
Speaker 1: You remember that, by the way.

2010
01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:52,240
Speaker 9: Absolutely, I mean, you know, but at the end of

2011
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:55,360
Speaker 9: the day, it just it makes no sense.

2012
01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:57,439
Speaker 1: Okay, Simon. Let me let me ask you a couple

2013
01:51:57,479 --> 01:52:02,280
Speaker 1: of questions here. Okay, okay, and I certainly understand if

2014
01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:04,439
Speaker 1: you don't want to answer this first part. It's not

2015
01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:06,200
Speaker 1: meant to. I mean, it's going to sound like a

2016
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:09,120
Speaker 1: rude question. You feel free to decline. Okay, you have

2017
01:52:09,160 --> 01:52:11,200
Speaker 1: two seats that are in the lower level. Do you

2018
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:14,400
Speaker 1: mind me asking roughly what that costs you for a

2019
01:52:14,479 --> 01:52:15,719
Speaker 1: year as a season ticket holder.

2020
01:52:16,439 --> 01:52:18,479
Speaker 9: Well, I will tell you, Jake, that I am in

2021
01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:24,600
Speaker 9: the I don't mind. My tickets I believe are the

2022
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:27,639
Speaker 9: absolute best value in the stadium. I am rote twelve

2023
01:52:27,800 --> 01:52:29,800
Speaker 9: Dead Center en zone, and I say one hundred and

2024
01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:32,880
Speaker 9: twenty eight dollars per ticket, So twelve hundred and eighty

2025
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:34,800
Speaker 9: dollars per year.

2026
01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:35,960
Speaker 3: Per ticket.

2027
01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:38,639
Speaker 1: Gotcha. Okay, so you're looking at twenty six hundred bucks

2028
01:52:38,640 --> 01:52:40,679
Speaker 1: basically for the year, right, yep, for two seats?

2029
01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 3: Correct?

2030
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:43,400
Speaker 1: Okay, that's correct. You live on what side of town?

2031
01:52:43,479 --> 01:52:44,280
Speaker 1: Or you live where?

2032
01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:46,040
Speaker 3: West side?

2033
01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:49,679
Speaker 1: Okay? So for a one o'clock kick? Do you tailgate

2034
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:51,479
Speaker 1: in that kind of thing? Are you pretty much park in?

2035
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:54,120
Speaker 1: You know, got your same parking spot, go in, go

2036
01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:55,000
Speaker 1: to the game, head home.

2037
01:52:56,320 --> 01:52:58,720
Speaker 9: We have a we have a cadence. We do the

2038
01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:01,320
Speaker 9: same thing every every week. We go to a restaurant

2039
01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:03,840
Speaker 9: prior to the game. We do drive in, ay fifty

2040
01:53:03,880 --> 01:53:09,960
Speaker 9: dollars to park, go, spend another seventy five at lunch

2041
01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:13,559
Speaker 9: or for lunch, whatever dinner or whatever snacks before the game.

2042
01:53:14,200 --> 01:53:14,679
Speaker 3: And listen.

2043
01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:19,920
Speaker 9: Not complaining at all. I mean, it's a fabulous way

2044
01:53:19,960 --> 01:53:23,640
Speaker 9: to spend ten Sundays a year with my sixteen year

2045
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:24,000
Speaker 9: old son.

2046
01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:24,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2047
01:53:24,439 --> 01:53:27,559
Speaker 1: Very cool. And are there ever? I guess the last

2048
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:30,519
Speaker 1: question I would have is this, Are there ever games

2049
01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:33,960
Speaker 1: where you just say to yourself, you know what, I'm

2050
01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:36,160
Speaker 1: gonna sit this one out, or the weather is perfect

2051
01:53:36,160 --> 01:53:39,080
Speaker 1: outside or whatever else. In other words, when you look

2052
01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:41,800
Speaker 1: at that number of empty seats that are there, I'm

2053
01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:44,240
Speaker 1: just trying to find the plausible explanation as to why

2054
01:53:44,240 --> 01:53:46,160
Speaker 1: some people may be foregoing a game.

2055
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:50,800
Speaker 9: Man, I will say this, I typically go every time

2056
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:54,519
Speaker 9: unless I have less we have a conflict. Right now

2057
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:55,320
Speaker 9: that my son.

2058
01:53:55,240 --> 01:53:56,240
Speaker 5: Is driving.

2059
01:53:58,240 --> 01:54:00,599
Speaker 9: The Denver game, I just said, hey, look, i'm gonna

2060
01:54:00,600 --> 01:54:02,360
Speaker 9: stay home with your mom and we're gonna I'm gonna

2061
01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:04,200
Speaker 9: watch TV and spend a day with her. You can

2062
01:54:04,240 --> 01:54:08,320
Speaker 9: take a friend. But but they win, right So, but

2063
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:10,479
Speaker 9: they're in lies. Why I want to add because I

2064
01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:13,000
Speaker 9: still want to go. I still want to go to

2065
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:15,479
Speaker 9: the game, but I just can't. But I also understand

2066
01:54:15,479 --> 01:54:16,960
Speaker 9: that he wants to take buddies.

2067
01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:17,439
Speaker 5: Or friends or whatever.

2068
01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:17,960
Speaker 3: Right So.

2069
01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:24,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, so so not unless we have a conflict. You know,

2070
01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:26,880
Speaker 9: it's it's a it's a point. It's those are ten

2071
01:54:27,560 --> 01:54:30,160
Speaker 9: you know, lesson we have eleven days that my wife

2072
01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:31,599
Speaker 9: pretty much knows are off off.

2073
01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:35,160
Speaker 1: Okay, here's my other thing, simon, real quick. If there

2074
01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:37,720
Speaker 1: is a game that you cannot this one I'm fascinated by.

2075
01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:40,440
Speaker 1: If there's a game that you cannot attend or for

2076
01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:43,480
Speaker 1: whatever reason, you know, your son's graduate high school, whatever. Okay,

2077
01:54:43,960 --> 01:54:47,760
Speaker 1: if you want to resell your tickets, do you just

2078
01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:49,920
Speaker 1: surrender them back to the Colts and they put them

2079
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:52,640
Speaker 1: on the secondary market. Do you personally put them on stubbub?

2080
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:53,440
Speaker 1: How does that work?

2081
01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:55,880
Speaker 5: You know?

2082
01:54:55,960 --> 01:54:57,160
Speaker 3: I think I have enough?

2083
01:54:57,320 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 5: I have enough? You know?

2084
01:54:59,680 --> 01:54:59,880
Speaker 3: Are you?

2085
01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:03,360
Speaker 9: We just sell them for face value to a quaintance.

2086
01:55:03,400 --> 01:55:05,920
Speaker 1: Okay, but but okay, bad examples.

2087
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:06,200
Speaker 3: Right.

2088
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 1: What I'm getting at is this, It is my It

2089
01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:12,040
Speaker 1: is my contention Simon that the one area where NFL

2090
01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:14,520
Speaker 1: franchises that I'm not singling out or picking on the Colts,

2091
01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:18,400
Speaker 1: but we are now seeing so many visiting fans in stadiums,

2092
01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:21,160
Speaker 1: and people get upset about that. But it's my belief

2093
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:25,320
Speaker 1: that the teams themselves have a business alliance with secondary

2094
01:55:25,360 --> 01:55:29,800
Speaker 1: markets that allow for the season ticket holder totally anonymously

2095
01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:33,000
Speaker 1: to click one button that get sold to somebody totally anonymously,

2096
01:55:33,280 --> 01:55:35,240
Speaker 1: and you have no idea whether that's a Raiders fan,

2097
01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:38,400
Speaker 1: Broncos fan, Patriots fan, whatever, because that's just the nature

2098
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:39,440
Speaker 1: of doing the business right.

2099
01:55:40,440 --> 01:55:42,760
Speaker 9: Well, and listen, I did that. I will say that

2100
01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:46,400
Speaker 9: I did that one time. You remember the infamous Chuck

2101
01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:49,480
Speaker 9: Pagano dumbest football play against the Patriots.

2102
01:55:49,560 --> 01:55:52,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the best playing football history, yes, but yes,

2103
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:54,960
Speaker 1: but my point being, my point being, did the Colts

2104
01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:57,160
Speaker 1: facilitate for you to sell on the secondary market?

2105
01:55:58,120 --> 01:55:58,720
Speaker 3: Yes? They did?

2106
01:55:58,800 --> 01:56:02,560
Speaker 9: Okay, and I paid for my entire season ticket.

2107
01:56:02,920 --> 01:56:07,160
Speaker 1: Totally understand ticket, Simon. I totally get. I appreciate the call.

2108
01:56:07,240 --> 01:56:09,640
Speaker 1: I totally get it. And that's my point though, simply

2109
01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:13,480
Speaker 1: is this, and I appreciate it, Simon. I totally get

2110
01:56:13,520 --> 01:56:16,200
Speaker 1: why franchises, and I'm not picking on the Colts. I

2111
01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:19,280
Speaker 1: get why every franchise gets frustrated with visiting fans in

2112
01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:22,640
Speaker 1: their building. But I also believe that that frustration is

2113
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:25,800
Speaker 1: muted and they lose their leg to stand on in

2114
01:56:25,840 --> 01:56:30,400
Speaker 1: that when they have a website linked connection to a

2115
01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:34,320
Speaker 1: secondary market that allows you to sell your ticket anonymously

2116
01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:36,280
Speaker 1: and who knows who it is that's buying it, right,

2117
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:38,200
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the nature of all of it,

2118
01:56:38,840 --> 01:56:42,600
Speaker 1: from both sides. Scott Agnes joins US Fever profile and

2119
01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:48,160
Speaker 1: feat or preview. Excuse me next, a couple of news

2120
01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:51,560
Speaker 1: items before we get to Scott Agnes here. First off,

2121
01:56:52,200 --> 01:56:57,320
Speaker 1: Mike Gundy, longtime Oklahoma state head football coach, today relieved

2122
01:56:57,320 --> 01:57:00,120
Speaker 1: of his duties with the Cowboys at the age of fifty.

2123
01:57:00,440 --> 01:57:03,240
Speaker 1: He has eight ten wins seasons at Oklahoma State, but

2124
01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:06,160
Speaker 1: they've gotten off to a rough start, so Mike Gundy

2125
01:57:06,200 --> 01:57:10,360
Speaker 1: has been fired at Oklahoma State. Also from a Colts standpoint,

2126
01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:14,080
Speaker 1: Alec Pierce Kennymore no update on their status for the

2127
01:57:14,120 --> 01:57:18,560
Speaker 1: Colts game coming up on Sunday in Los Angeles. Thomas Bryant,

2128
01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:22,040
Speaker 1: the former IU and Pacer star, now a Cleveland Cavaliers,

2129
01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:25,720
Speaker 1: signing a one year deal, And sad news in the NFL.

2130
01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:29,880
Speaker 1: Former running back Rudy Johnson of the Cincinnati Bengals the

2131
01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:33,840
Speaker 1: franchise announced passing away today at the age of forty five.

2132
01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:37,920
Speaker 1: It is believed to have been self inflicted. He had battled,

2133
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:42,880
Speaker 1: apparently with mental illness and possibly CTE issues of late

2134
01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:46,520
Speaker 1: but Rudy Johnson Reggie Wayne among those sending out their

2135
01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:49,720
Speaker 1: condolences on social media for the passing of a guy

2136
01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:52,280
Speaker 1: that had a really good year in year four, three

2137
01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:54,800
Speaker 1: and four during his time as a running back out

2138
01:57:54,800 --> 01:57:57,840
Speaker 1: of Auburn with the Cincinnati Bengals and the NFL.

2139
01:57:57,960 --> 01:58:01,040
Speaker 2: Jake Jackson Dart will be starting moving forward, at least

2140
01:58:01,040 --> 01:58:03,280
Speaker 2: for the time being for the New York Giants. Russell

2141
01:58:03,280 --> 01:58:06,839
Speaker 2: Wilson to the bench and had some New York Liberty

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Speaker 2: News earlier today as well. They will not be retaining

2143
01:58:11,200 --> 01:58:15,200
Speaker 2: their head coach, Sandy Brondello after the season that ended

2144
01:58:16,160 --> 01:58:18,520
Speaker 2: against the Fenix Mercury in the opening round of the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Joining us now on the guest line, he is I

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01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:24,680
Speaker 1: believe out in Las Vegas. From Fieldhouse file Scott Agnes

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01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:27,560
Speaker 1: joining us tonight. It is the fever in Las Vegas.

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01:58:27,600 --> 01:58:29,760
Speaker 1: It is a nine to thirty tip. You'll hear Eddie

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01:58:30,440 --> 01:58:35,400
Speaker 1: with the pregame at nine fifteen. Scott, let's begin with this.

2150
01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:40,880
Speaker 1: I know that the balloting says otherwise, but I think

2151
01:58:41,000 --> 01:58:43,920
Speaker 1: now it has been cemented, at least in the minds

2152
01:58:43,960 --> 01:58:46,720
Speaker 1: around here. Kelsey Mitchell is the most valuable player in

2153
01:58:46,760 --> 01:58:48,200
Speaker 1: the WNBA this year. Is she not?

2154
01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:51,560
Speaker 6: It sure seems like it, But it all goes back

2155
01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:54,160
Speaker 6: to that old ad is who's most valuable versus who

2156
01:58:54,240 --> 01:58:55,040
Speaker 6: had the best season?

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01:58:55,160 --> 01:58:55,840
Speaker 1: Right? I guess right?

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01:58:55,920 --> 01:58:59,160
Speaker 6: Like we talk about that every awards season. But to me,

2159
01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:00,960
Speaker 6: if anything, I would have said in a FISA Collier,

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01:59:01,000 --> 01:59:02,640
Speaker 6: if I had a vote, I would have given it

2161
01:59:02,640 --> 01:59:04,760
Speaker 6: to her, given the fact that she had her best

2162
01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:08,080
Speaker 6: career year. Minnesota was the best team. But if you

2163
01:59:08,240 --> 01:59:11,280
Speaker 6: take it literally for its meaning most valuable. The Fever

2164
01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:13,400
Speaker 6: are nowhere close to where they are right now, still

2165
01:59:13,440 --> 01:59:15,240
Speaker 6: playing with dal Kelsey Mitchell.

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01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:21,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, the the way that she Kelsey Mitchell has been

2167
01:59:21,080 --> 01:59:25,080
Speaker 1: able to score in different areas, and you know whether

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01:59:25,120 --> 01:59:27,400
Speaker 1: it be I mean, she's obviously very aggressive and very

2169
01:59:27,480 --> 01:59:29,520
Speaker 1: quick at getting to the basket. She can shoot from

2170
01:59:29,560 --> 01:59:32,440
Speaker 1: the outside. One of the things that I'm curious about

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01:59:32,440 --> 01:59:35,800
Speaker 1: Scott and we were talking about this earlier, and it's

2172
01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:39,920
Speaker 1: hard to bring it up because it sounds like a

2173
01:59:40,600 --> 01:59:43,560
Speaker 1: like a lazy narrative and b like it's an indicting

2174
01:59:43,640 --> 01:59:46,440
Speaker 1: narrative on Caitlin Clark, which is not intended to be

2175
01:59:46,680 --> 01:59:50,200
Speaker 1: at all. But when you look at the way that

2176
01:59:50,280 --> 01:59:54,160
Speaker 1: they have played in the last month, are the Fever

2177
01:59:54,320 --> 01:59:57,320
Speaker 1: right now playing better as a team than they did

2178
01:59:57,400 --> 01:59:58,720
Speaker 1: at any point this year?

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Speaker 6: I think so, only because it felt like they never

2180
02:00:03,440 --> 02:00:06,280
Speaker 6: the season never really got off its ground. Yes, if

2181
02:00:06,320 --> 02:00:08,800
Speaker 6: you had so many issues and so I don't think

2182
02:00:08,800 --> 02:00:11,520
Speaker 6: we ever saw the full potential or anything close to that.

2183
02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:13,840
Speaker 6: I just I go back to the first week of

2184
02:00:13,880 --> 02:00:17,200
Speaker 6: training camp where Alan and Demers don't just both had

2185
02:00:17,240 --> 02:00:20,360
Speaker 6: injuries and we're out so right away you're dealing with that.

2186
02:00:20,800 --> 02:00:24,520
Speaker 6: But the remarkable thing is just how they've continued to

2187
02:00:24,640 --> 02:00:27,240
Speaker 6: play at this high level. Like you keep thinking they're

2188
02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:29,680
Speaker 6: due for that thirty point blowout where you're just like, well,

2189
02:00:29,840 --> 02:00:32,880
Speaker 6: it wasn't their night, But these games have all been competitive.

2190
02:00:32,920 --> 02:00:36,000
Speaker 6: They stayed in the fight that given all their limitations,

2191
02:00:36,280 --> 02:00:38,480
Speaker 6: and I thought it was interesting. I was curious how

2192
02:00:38,800 --> 02:00:40,600
Speaker 6: some of them have been holding up. So I even

2193
02:00:40,600 --> 02:00:42,880
Speaker 6: asked Lexi Hole today just to shoot around which we

2194
02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:45,520
Speaker 6: just wrapped up, and she was like, Yeah, my body

2195
02:00:45,600 --> 02:00:47,280
Speaker 6: is really going through it. I'm having to do all

2196
02:00:47,280 --> 02:00:50,560
Speaker 6: these extra measures, but still no excuse for keep going.

2197
02:00:50,600 --> 02:00:53,400
Speaker 6: But I can't imagine a player like her or Mitchell

2198
02:00:53,680 --> 02:00:57,280
Speaker 6: or Leah Boston. They've played in every game the physicality

2199
02:00:57,360 --> 02:00:59,320
Speaker 6: to deal with. And I give a Leah Boston also

2200
02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:01,120
Speaker 6: a lot of credit. I think she's played with a

2201
02:01:01,120 --> 02:01:03,600
Speaker 6: lot more of an edge and a feistiness that has

2202
02:01:03,600 --> 02:01:05,919
Speaker 6: carried her to a better performance here in this postseason

2203
02:01:05,960 --> 02:01:06,360
Speaker 6: as well.

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02:01:06,400 --> 02:01:09,560
Speaker 1: Scott. When you look at the injuries the Fever have

2205
02:01:09,680 --> 02:01:15,560
Speaker 1: had and the number of roster combinations they've had to use,

2206
02:01:17,000 --> 02:01:20,720
Speaker 1: and Stephanie White having to you know, at sometimes probably

2207
02:01:20,760 --> 02:01:26,280
Speaker 1: have name tags for everybody during practice. Have they reinvented

2208
02:01:26,360 --> 02:01:29,240
Speaker 1: the style that they wanted to play or has it

2209
02:01:29,400 --> 02:01:31,800
Speaker 1: been Look, this is who we are and this is

2210
02:01:31,840 --> 02:01:34,320
Speaker 1: how we're going to play. It's just the faces are

2211
02:01:34,320 --> 02:01:35,160
Speaker 1: going to have to be different.

2212
02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:39,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, they've made some small tweaks on the fringes, and

2213
02:01:39,960 --> 02:01:42,200
Speaker 6: I think especially early on a month ago, when they

2214
02:01:42,200 --> 02:01:45,000
Speaker 6: were bringing in, you know, three hardship players in a

2215
02:01:45,040 --> 02:01:48,280
Speaker 6: matter of a week, they really had to simplify and

2216
02:01:48,320 --> 02:01:51,200
Speaker 6: even not have too much of an offense when many

2217
02:01:51,280 --> 02:01:54,000
Speaker 6: of them are out there. But I think that has

2218
02:01:54,080 --> 02:01:56,920
Speaker 6: changed a ton going into this postseason. They had four

2219
02:01:57,000 --> 02:02:00,120
Speaker 6: days between games entering the playoffs, and so that was

2220
02:02:00,200 --> 02:02:03,040
Speaker 6: the time finally where coach White and her staff had

2221
02:02:03,080 --> 02:02:06,000
Speaker 6: time to add some new plays. And the main thing

2222
02:02:06,040 --> 02:02:09,480
Speaker 6: she's stressed was to become more unpredictable, because she felt

2223
02:02:09,480 --> 02:02:12,440
Speaker 6: like they were very very predictable leading up to that

2224
02:02:12,560 --> 02:02:15,200
Speaker 6: given what they had to do. And by the way,

2225
02:02:15,200 --> 02:02:16,800
Speaker 6: I want to go back to Kelsey and we talk

2226
02:02:16,880 --> 02:02:19,200
Speaker 6: about her offense. I think the thing that's shine through

2227
02:02:19,240 --> 02:02:22,320
Speaker 6: too is the level in which she elevated her defensive

2228
02:02:22,320 --> 02:02:25,560
Speaker 6: play and taking on some of the best offensive players

2229
02:02:25,600 --> 02:02:28,080
Speaker 6: on the other side this season as well. And then

2230
02:02:28,120 --> 02:02:30,320
Speaker 6: I'd even add in a third thing to what's made

2231
02:02:30,360 --> 02:02:33,280
Speaker 6: her season so spectacular, Jake, And that's while she's quiet

2232
02:02:33,320 --> 02:02:36,880
Speaker 6: by nature, kind of like a Pascal Siakam, she has

2233
02:02:36,920 --> 02:02:41,120
Speaker 6: emerged and become a vocal leader and willing to speak

2234
02:02:41,200 --> 02:02:44,600
Speaker 6: up at various times, more to the point where she's

2235
02:02:44,640 --> 02:02:47,240
Speaker 6: certainly one of the most valuable players in the league

2236
02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:49,200
Speaker 6: with all that she does on both ends of the

2237
02:02:49,240 --> 02:02:50,040
Speaker 6: floor for this group.

2238
02:02:50,160 --> 02:02:52,440
Speaker 1: And by the way, how good has honesty Simms been

2239
02:02:52,480 --> 02:02:56,560
Speaker 1: as well, especially here in the postseason? I think, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I even.

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02:02:56,880 --> 02:02:59,000
Speaker 6: Asked Stephanie White about that today and I'm like, how

2242
02:02:59,080 --> 02:03:01,520
Speaker 6: much of it is just fit an opportunity? Because we

2243
02:03:01,560 --> 02:03:04,320
Speaker 6: talk about that with these pros, right, how many times

2244
02:03:04,320 --> 02:03:07,040
Speaker 6: do you see some elite level college player and then

2245
02:03:07,080 --> 02:03:10,040
Speaker 6: they just don't pan out or maybe even take the

2246
02:03:10,080 --> 02:03:12,480
Speaker 6: Colts quarterback, like it just doesn't pan out in the

2247
02:03:12,520 --> 02:03:15,480
Speaker 6: first stop or Daniel Jones, and you need that second

2248
02:03:15,480 --> 02:03:18,560
Speaker 6: opportunity to figure it out. And honestly, Simms is a

2249
02:03:18,600 --> 02:03:20,960
Speaker 6: veteran player in this league, but she was without a

2250
02:03:21,040 --> 02:03:24,240
Speaker 6: job for a month and right away this team also

2251
02:03:24,280 --> 02:03:26,960
Speaker 6: wouldn't be where they are without her, both with their scoring,

2252
02:03:27,320 --> 02:03:28,920
Speaker 6: and I think so much of what she does is

2253
02:03:28,960 --> 02:03:31,680
Speaker 6: it's attacking and getting the defense on their heels, and

2254
02:03:31,720 --> 02:03:34,160
Speaker 6: then that opens things up for everyone else along the perimeter.

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Speaker 1: Scott. When you look at Scott Agnes's our guest fieldhouse files,

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02:03:38,120 --> 02:03:41,120
Speaker 1: you know, look Las Vegas and maybe one of the

2257
02:03:41,120 --> 02:03:44,960
Speaker 1: things that benefited Indiana late in the year is some

2258
02:03:45,040 --> 02:03:47,240
Speaker 1: of the players that they were having to go out

2259
02:03:47,280 --> 02:03:51,440
Speaker 1: and acquire because they're veterans. They they've kind of been

2260
02:03:51,480 --> 02:03:55,200
Speaker 1: through the rigger, right, and they've been through personal, you know,

2261
02:03:55,440 --> 02:04:00,600
Speaker 1: journey to get to reinvent themselves and get this new

2262
02:04:00,720 --> 02:04:03,240
Speaker 1: lease in terms of the minutes that they're getting, and

2263
02:04:03,280 --> 02:04:06,000
Speaker 1: maybe that also catapults Indiata a little bit. But let's

2264
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:09,440
Speaker 1: talk about from Las Vegas's standpoint. You know, they didn't

2265
02:04:09,600 --> 02:04:12,160
Speaker 1: just the Fever win game one. I mean they really

2266
02:04:12,200 --> 02:04:15,600
Speaker 1: controlled to made a statement in game one. What adjustments

2267
02:04:15,640 --> 02:04:19,040
Speaker 1: does Las Vegas do we anticipate seeing here in game two?

2268
02:04:20,240 --> 02:04:22,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the one we know is going to

2269
02:04:22,520 --> 02:04:25,200
Speaker 6: just happen naturally is we all expect Asia Wilson to

2270
02:04:25,240 --> 02:04:27,360
Speaker 6: do what she does, being one of the best players

2271
02:04:27,400 --> 02:04:29,600
Speaker 6: in the league, right, So everything else, First of all,

2272
02:04:29,600 --> 02:04:33,160
Speaker 6: to me, it starts with them getting Indiana slowed down

2273
02:04:33,160 --> 02:04:36,800
Speaker 6: and fast break Fever really able to dictate tempo and

2274
02:04:37,080 --> 02:04:39,480
Speaker 6: after especially early on, where we saw the Aces miss

2275
02:04:39,520 --> 02:04:41,840
Speaker 6: so many bunnies around the hoop and the Fever race

2276
02:04:41,960 --> 02:04:44,560
Speaker 6: down the floor, and that's their style, their number one

2277
02:04:44,560 --> 02:04:46,440
Speaker 6: and fast break points. They love to play fast. So

2278
02:04:46,480 --> 02:04:50,520
Speaker 6: I think the Aces need to slow them down and

2279
02:04:50,840 --> 02:04:54,280
Speaker 6: really be able to then on the other end, not

2280
02:04:54,520 --> 02:04:57,320
Speaker 6: just be so dependent on Asia, because that's what we

2281
02:04:57,360 --> 02:04:59,480
Speaker 6: saw during the regular season when these teams two met.

2282
02:05:00,400 --> 02:05:03,280
Speaker 6: Asia was solid, but the rest of the team were

2283
02:05:03,880 --> 02:05:07,120
Speaker 6: limited in what they contributed. So that and then on

2284
02:05:07,160 --> 02:05:09,200
Speaker 6: top of that, I would add in, can you keep

2285
02:05:09,240 --> 02:05:12,520
Speaker 6: Kelsey Mitchell to say twenty five points? Which is impressive

2286
02:05:12,560 --> 02:05:15,240
Speaker 6: nonetheless because I you know, for her to go off

2287
02:05:15,240 --> 02:05:17,840
Speaker 6: for thirty four and for the rest of the Fever

2288
02:05:17,920 --> 02:05:19,920
Speaker 6: players to contribute the ways in which they did. I

2289
02:05:19,920 --> 02:05:23,480
Speaker 6: thought them limiting the Leah Boston was a success, but

2290
02:05:23,560 --> 02:05:26,480
Speaker 6: she was so impactful in other ways. But to me,

2291
02:05:26,600 --> 02:05:29,320
Speaker 6: it starts with scoring at a higher clip than their

2292
02:05:29,400 --> 02:05:33,160
Speaker 6: forty percent and then slowing Indiana down and making them

2293
02:05:33,160 --> 02:05:34,160
Speaker 6: work in the half court.

2294
02:05:34,040 --> 02:05:34,760
Speaker 1: Much more often.

2295
02:05:34,880 --> 02:05:38,040
Speaker 6: It so resembles the Pacers, right all this conversation, the

2296
02:05:38,120 --> 02:05:40,280
Speaker 6: similarities and overlaps are remarkable to meet.

2297
02:05:40,320 --> 02:05:43,720
Speaker 1: Jay No, I would agree with that. And also, you

2298
02:05:43,720 --> 02:05:45,880
Speaker 1: know it all coming together late right where then you

2299
02:05:45,920 --> 02:05:47,120
Speaker 1: look at it and you go, man, how do we

2300
02:05:47,160 --> 02:05:49,600
Speaker 1: not see this all year long coming like once they

2301
02:05:49,680 --> 02:05:50,840
Speaker 1: had solidarity?

2302
02:05:51,760 --> 02:05:51,880
Speaker 3: You know?

2303
02:05:51,960 --> 02:05:55,280
Speaker 1: From the Las Vegas standpoint, I thought Asia Wilson to

2304
02:05:55,320 --> 02:05:59,360
Speaker 1: your point, I mean, dynamic player, dynamic score, did not

2305
02:05:59,560 --> 02:06:02,200
Speaker 1: score the ball well at least in terms of offensive

2306
02:06:02,200 --> 02:06:05,120
Speaker 1: efficiency in game one, but that kind of led to

2307
02:06:05,240 --> 02:06:08,080
Speaker 1: a balance elsewhere. I thought that they got did the

2308
02:06:08,120 --> 02:06:12,040
Speaker 1: aces you know from Evans for example, Jackie Young, you know,

2309
02:06:12,200 --> 02:06:16,440
Speaker 1: can score the basketball, but did it almost even though

2310
02:06:16,520 --> 02:06:19,440
Speaker 1: things were balanced out for Las Vegas? Is it better

2311
02:06:19,480 --> 02:06:23,560
Speaker 1: served for Indiana if they're less spreading the wealth so

2312
02:06:23,640 --> 02:06:27,000
Speaker 1: to speak? And you almost want to just hone in

2313
02:06:27,040 --> 02:06:28,720
Speaker 1: on Asia Wilson. Does that make sense?

2314
02:06:28,800 --> 02:06:29,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2315
02:06:29,000 --> 02:06:31,360
Speaker 6: I was having that exact conversation this morning. It's like,

2316
02:06:31,560 --> 02:06:34,160
Speaker 6: are you good with her going for thirty five and

2317
02:06:34,440 --> 02:06:36,680
Speaker 6: no other player with like more than eight points?

2318
02:06:37,200 --> 02:06:38,160
Speaker 3: And I think.

2319
02:06:38,000 --> 02:06:41,680
Speaker 6: Part of you are, absolutely because she's so dangerous also

2320
02:06:41,720 --> 02:06:43,960
Speaker 6: in distributing the ball. But if it's just her going

2321
02:06:44,440 --> 02:06:47,320
Speaker 6: and Aliyah who's also from played at South Carolina, so

2322
02:06:47,360 --> 02:06:50,160
Speaker 6: there's a lot of familiarity between those two players who

2323
02:06:50,240 --> 02:06:52,600
Speaker 6: were really battling it out. To me, that's the most

2324
02:06:52,600 --> 02:06:56,360
Speaker 6: fascinating matchup of this series. But yeah, I think there's

2325
02:06:56,360 --> 02:06:58,680
Speaker 6: a lot of value in that quite frankly, and the player. Also,

2326
02:06:59,160 --> 02:07:01,720
Speaker 6: they needed Chelsea Gray, who is well regarded as maybe

2327
02:07:01,760 --> 02:07:04,880
Speaker 6: the best guard, point guard, best passing guard in the

2328
02:07:04,920 --> 02:07:07,880
Speaker 6: league for the last several years. And in that back

2329
02:07:07,920 --> 02:07:10,879
Speaker 6: court of Gray and Young for ass to have success,

2330
02:07:10,880 --> 02:07:12,200
Speaker 6: I think needs to come up big time.

2331
02:07:12,480 --> 02:07:14,480
Speaker 2: Scott, You've been around this team for most of the season,

2332
02:07:14,640 --> 02:07:16,560
Speaker 2: whether it's practice, shooter, ond or whatever. I don't want

2333
02:07:16,600 --> 02:07:17,840
Speaker 2: to talk about her as the coach. I want to

2334
02:07:17,840 --> 02:07:20,560
Speaker 2: talk about her as the person I know. Natalie Nicassi

2335
02:07:20,640 --> 02:07:22,720
Speaker 2: won the Coach of the Year, even though Stephanie White

2336
02:07:22,720 --> 02:07:24,640
Speaker 2: probably should have done it for just the x's and

2337
02:07:24,640 --> 02:07:26,600
Speaker 2: o's and just what all she had to do to

2338
02:07:26,640 --> 02:07:29,800
Speaker 2: put this team together so off the court as a person,

2339
02:07:29,920 --> 02:07:32,560
Speaker 2: What did Stephanie White do to make this team so

2340
02:07:32,720 --> 02:07:35,520
Speaker 2: collective and so together? Because I don't think he gets

2341
02:07:35,520 --> 02:07:37,600
Speaker 2: talked about enough of the job that she's done of

2342
02:07:37,640 --> 02:07:38,920
Speaker 2: just bringing this group together.

2343
02:07:39,720 --> 02:07:41,640
Speaker 6: No that's a good point. I think the reality is

2344
02:07:41,640 --> 02:07:43,600
Speaker 6: in terms of like the voters and there's seventy two

2345
02:07:44,080 --> 02:07:46,400
Speaker 6: is unless you're even those of us that are there

2346
02:07:46,400 --> 02:07:49,520
Speaker 6: every day, we truly don't know all those little things

2347
02:07:49,560 --> 02:07:52,360
Speaker 6: in the locker room and that they've gone through the hardshifts,

2348
02:07:52,400 --> 02:07:54,720
Speaker 6: even the fact that Stephanie White's mother in law passed

2349
02:07:54,760 --> 02:07:56,280
Speaker 6: away and that's why she had to miss a couple

2350
02:07:56,280 --> 02:07:59,920
Speaker 6: of games. In turn, that actually brought her in kel

2351
02:08:00,040 --> 02:08:04,040
Speaker 6: See Mitchell closer because Mitchell lost her father last year

2352
02:08:04,400 --> 02:08:06,640
Speaker 6: and Kelsey was talking about this after last game, as

2353
02:08:06,680 --> 02:08:10,280
Speaker 6: they're bonded by that shared experience and also their love

2354
02:08:10,320 --> 02:08:13,080
Speaker 6: of basketball and things like that. To me, I think

2355
02:08:13,120 --> 02:08:15,520
Speaker 6: Stephanie probably should have finished third and the Coach of

2356
02:08:15,560 --> 02:08:18,320
Speaker 6: the Year voting, just given all she's been through. But

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Speaker 6: I think number one, Steph has empowered each player to

2358
02:08:22,120 --> 02:08:24,480
Speaker 6: be the best versions of themselves. For example, you brought

2359
02:08:24,560 --> 02:08:28,080
Speaker 6: up Honestly Simms earlier. When honestly stops driving and it's deferring,

2360
02:08:28,400 --> 02:08:31,800
Speaker 6: Steph jumps on her for the Hey, look, we need

2361
02:08:31,840 --> 02:08:34,120
Speaker 6: you to be exactly who you are because that's why

2362
02:08:34,120 --> 02:08:36,680
Speaker 6: we brought you in. And Jake to your Jake's point earlier,

2363
02:08:37,000 --> 02:08:41,840
Speaker 6: they specifically brought in veteran, playoff tested players because of

2364
02:08:42,280 --> 02:08:46,000
Speaker 6: their inexperience and their shortcomings elsewhere. At least they wouldn't

2365
02:08:46,000 --> 02:08:48,440
Speaker 6: have to figure out big game experience on the fly.

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02:08:48,560 --> 02:08:51,800
Speaker 6: But I think the confidence that Stephanie instills and all

2367
02:08:51,800 --> 02:08:56,120
Speaker 6: the players, I think the relatability. She's won championships, She's

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02:08:56,160 --> 02:08:59,520
Speaker 6: played at a high level. She knows this franchise inside

2369
02:08:59,560 --> 02:09:01,600
Speaker 6: and out from her previous time here as a player

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02:09:02,040 --> 02:09:04,840
Speaker 6: and coach, and so I think she takes the time

2371
02:09:04,840 --> 02:09:06,839
Speaker 6: to get to know these players on a personal basis.

2372
02:09:06,880 --> 02:09:09,800
Speaker 6: I go back to last fall, about.

2373
02:09:09,560 --> 02:09:10,080
Speaker 3: A year ago.

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02:09:10,600 --> 02:09:13,160
Speaker 6: The primary goal was to re sign Kelsey Mitchell, and

2375
02:09:13,200 --> 02:09:15,440
Speaker 6: it was not a done deal, it was not a given,

2376
02:09:15,680 --> 02:09:19,240
Speaker 6: and she poured into her both starting from my personal standpoint,

2377
02:09:19,520 --> 02:09:22,520
Speaker 6: even before the basketball standpoint, and I think that has

2378
02:09:22,560 --> 02:09:25,120
Speaker 6: really resonated with these players, because when you feel that

2379
02:09:25,440 --> 02:09:29,160
Speaker 6: connection beyond basketball, it only helps what you're doing on

2380
02:09:29,200 --> 02:09:31,880
Speaker 6: the court when things get tough, when you go through adversity.

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Speaker 1: Scott, there's been this. I don't even know where this

2382
02:09:35,200 --> 02:09:37,800
Speaker 1: came about, but I started reading a couple months ago,

2383
02:09:38,520 --> 02:09:41,320
Speaker 1: mostly on social media, which that's a dangerous enough place

2384
02:09:41,320 --> 02:09:43,840
Speaker 1: as it is. But I start reading all these articles

2385
02:09:43,920 --> 02:09:46,760
Speaker 1: about how like, oh man, like people in the entertainment

2386
02:09:46,760 --> 02:09:49,560
Speaker 1: industry and in the hospitality industry in Las Vegas are

2387
02:09:49,560 --> 02:09:52,080
Speaker 1: talking about how like nobody's going to Vegas and Vegas

2388
02:09:52,120 --> 02:09:54,200
Speaker 1: is dying and whatever else. I have no idea if

2389
02:09:54,240 --> 02:09:55,760
Speaker 1: that's true. It's been a while since I've been there,

2390
02:09:56,280 --> 02:09:59,680
Speaker 1: like a year or so, fact or fiction, Like things

2391
02:09:59,680 --> 02:10:01,640
Speaker 1: seem slower on Las Vegas Boulevard.

2392
02:10:02,400 --> 02:10:05,120
Speaker 6: I'd say fact for sure. I walked around the pool area,

2393
02:10:05,200 --> 02:10:08,280
Speaker 6: about half of it was empty, now given it was

2394
02:10:08,480 --> 02:10:11,440
Speaker 6: what Monday afternoon, but still here. I mean there's no

2395
02:10:11,560 --> 02:10:14,240
Speaker 6: days or times of you know, people are here at

2396
02:10:14,240 --> 02:10:17,840
Speaker 6: all times of the year. Usually there's it's bustling with conventions.

2397
02:10:17,840 --> 02:10:21,120
Speaker 6: Maybe it's not a big convention season, but no, I

2398
02:10:21,320 --> 02:10:24,200
Speaker 6: think that's definitely fact for sure, even though the airline

2399
02:10:24,200 --> 02:10:25,360
Speaker 6: prices didn't reflect that.

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02:10:26,280 --> 02:10:28,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, kidding, right, what's what's the temperature out there

2401
02:10:28,520 --> 02:10:30,280
Speaker 1: right now? Not too bad?

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02:10:30,320 --> 02:10:33,120
Speaker 6: I think it's like eighty five or so. Okay, yeah, no,

2403
02:10:33,560 --> 02:10:36,080
Speaker 6: once you kind of get into inside, you don't really

2404
02:10:36,120 --> 02:10:37,480
Speaker 6: have an excuse to go outside.

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02:10:37,520 --> 02:10:40,160
Speaker 1: So so basically, if you're walking around the pool and

2406
02:10:40,160 --> 02:10:41,960
Speaker 1: there's not many people there, just more reason for you

2407
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:43,440
Speaker 1: to walk around on the thong. Is that what you're

2408
02:10:43,440 --> 02:10:43,880
Speaker 1: getting at?

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02:10:44,960 --> 02:10:47,400
Speaker 6: No, I will not be doing that whatsoever. I just

2410
02:10:47,440 --> 02:10:50,040
Speaker 6: wanted to get some natural sunlight after feeling like you're

2411
02:10:50,080 --> 02:10:51,560
Speaker 6: stuff inside for a couple of days.

2412
02:10:51,560 --> 02:10:54,879
Speaker 1: Scotten his speedo just hanging around walking around the strip,

2413
02:10:55,200 --> 02:10:57,960
Speaker 1: all right, Scott Tonight nine thirty it is the Aces

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02:10:58,040 --> 02:11:00,240
Speaker 1: and the Fever nine to fifteen. Pregame on the show.

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02:11:00,240 --> 02:11:05,040
Speaker 1: Appreciate it man, Scott Agnes joining us from Fieldhouse Files.

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02:11:05,280 --> 02:11:09,640
Speaker 1: We come back. J and V is here. I believe actually, uh,

2417
02:11:09,800 --> 02:11:13,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a former NFL quarterback that has had

2418
02:11:13,520 --> 02:11:15,840
Speaker 1: his eyes on, Daniel Jones, joining him on the show.

2419
02:11:15,840 --> 02:11:18,400
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that and more on the Crossover, brought

2420
02:11:18,400 --> 02:11:20,520
Speaker 1: to you by Love Heating and Air Love Dash HVAC

2421
02:11:20,640 --> 02:11:26,120
Speaker 1: dot Com. Next, John, what would you say JMV is here?

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02:11:26,360 --> 02:11:28,640
Speaker 1: What would you say is the signature song of Pearl Jam?

2423
02:11:29,240 --> 02:11:35,840
Speaker 1: I would say, Alive Breakdown. I think that's probably right, although, boy,

2424
02:11:35,880 --> 02:11:37,560
Speaker 1: this one's way up there though, it's got to be one.

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02:11:37,640 --> 02:11:41,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Jeremy's up there, Yeah, Jeremy's up there. I

2426
02:11:41,600 --> 02:11:42,120
Speaker 1: would agree.

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02:11:42,120 --> 02:11:45,640
Speaker 7: I think do you remember the whole There was an

2428
02:11:45,760 --> 02:11:49,920
Speaker 7: urban legend that Eddie Vedder came up with the lyrics

2429
02:11:49,920 --> 02:11:51,880
Speaker 7: and the thoughts of the song Alive because he was

2430
02:11:51,920 --> 02:11:55,080
Speaker 7: hanging off the space needle in Seattle. Did you ever

2431
02:11:55,120 --> 02:11:57,560
Speaker 7: hear that story? But I think it was a story

2432
02:11:57,600 --> 02:12:00,640
Speaker 7: that actually had its roots from when he was hanging

2433
02:12:00,680 --> 02:12:02,520
Speaker 7: from the top of the stage. I think it was

2434
02:12:03,080 --> 02:12:07,160
Speaker 7: at what's the Southern California and the Desert Coachella. I

2435
02:12:07,160 --> 02:12:09,040
Speaker 7: think it was Coachella or something like that. He was

2436
02:12:09,080 --> 02:12:14,080
Speaker 7: hanging from the stage because his microphone cord got snagged

2437
02:12:14,520 --> 02:12:16,480
Speaker 7: and he climbed up there and got it and was

2438
02:12:16,520 --> 02:12:17,120
Speaker 7: hanging from it.

2439
02:12:17,200 --> 02:12:19,760
Speaker 4: I think that's where that story I actually remember.

2440
02:12:19,800 --> 02:12:22,400
Speaker 1: I know that you have a deep respect for Pearl Jam.

2441
02:12:22,400 --> 02:12:24,480
Speaker 1: Were you a big Pearl Jam fan per se?

2442
02:12:24,800 --> 02:12:28,080
Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah, I was probably. I was always more sound

2443
02:12:28,120 --> 02:12:30,760
Speaker 7: Guard than Alison Chains than Pearl Jam.

2444
02:12:31,360 --> 02:12:34,360
Speaker 1: But I took a pilot you like Stone Tub pilots

2445
02:12:34,480 --> 02:12:34,800
Speaker 1: I did.

2446
02:12:34,840 --> 02:12:38,640
Speaker 7: I like Wiland a great deal when they played If

2447
02:12:38,680 --> 02:12:42,080
Speaker 7: you remember back a number of years ago and Wyland

2448
02:12:42,120 --> 02:12:44,240
Speaker 7: was still with us when they played Carb Day, that

2449
02:12:44,280 --> 02:12:46,160
Speaker 7: was one of the better Card Day performances of all

2450
02:12:46,240 --> 02:12:46,960
Speaker 7: time in the Rain.

2451
02:12:47,040 --> 02:12:47,520
Speaker 4: As a matter of.

2452
02:12:47,560 --> 02:12:52,520
Speaker 1: Fact, they Yeah, they stone Tuble Pilots. I always I

2453
02:12:52,640 --> 02:12:55,960
Speaker 1: liked them, you know, probably I liked them even more

2454
02:12:55,960 --> 02:12:58,200
Speaker 1: than Pearl Jam. But I will say this when, and

2455
02:12:58,280 --> 02:13:00,960
Speaker 1: I know you were there for it last year, when

2456
02:13:01,000 --> 02:13:02,760
Speaker 1: I went to that Pearl Jam show, I was like, Okay,

2457
02:13:02,800 --> 02:13:04,360
Speaker 1: I get it. I mean they were phenomenal.

2458
02:13:04,400 --> 02:13:08,560
Speaker 7: Line, they were well and stone Tiple Pilot's album Core

2459
02:13:09,160 --> 02:13:12,320
Speaker 7: is one of the greatest of the nineteen nineties, one

2460
02:13:12,360 --> 02:13:14,880
Speaker 7: of the greatest, and people would suggest not even that's

2461
02:13:14,920 --> 02:13:17,240
Speaker 7: not their best, but I loved it that.

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02:13:17,240 --> 02:13:18,880
Speaker 4: That was just packed full of great music.

2463
02:13:19,280 --> 02:13:21,360
Speaker 1: What do you have lined up on the big program today?

2464
02:13:21,360 --> 02:13:22,880
Speaker 1: I know you said you talked to one guy that's

2465
02:13:22,920 --> 02:13:24,080
Speaker 1: got a pretty good U.

2466
02:13:24,320 --> 02:13:27,880
Speaker 7: Boomers, Right, they will join us two six years of

2467
02:13:27,920 --> 02:13:31,960
Speaker 7: watching Daniel Jones. You watched Daniel Jones last night Guys with.

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02:13:32,000 --> 02:13:32,800
Speaker 1: Peyton and Eli.

2469
02:13:33,800 --> 02:13:36,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, he looked about as excited as me try to

2470
02:13:36,960 --> 02:13:39,240
Speaker 7: take an algebra test last night being a part of that.

2471
02:13:39,400 --> 02:13:41,760
Speaker 4: But who cares as well as he can play quarterback.

2472
02:13:41,400 --> 02:13:44,320
Speaker 1: That's the thing, Like he's not he doesn't exactly exude personality,

2473
02:13:44,400 --> 02:13:47,080
Speaker 1: but he's getting the job done. Yeah, it's weird.

2474
02:13:47,080 --> 02:13:49,480
Speaker 7: Too, because he grew up in Fairhope, Alabama, right, and

2475
02:13:49,760 --> 02:13:52,440
Speaker 7: knew Philip Rivers really well.

2476
02:13:52,560 --> 02:13:53,200
Speaker 4: Is that kind of the.

2477
02:13:53,160 --> 02:13:54,960
Speaker 1: Story of Daniel Jones, that's right?

2478
02:13:55,040 --> 02:13:58,160
Speaker 7: And then Philip Rivers is this gregarious personality and yeah,

2479
02:13:58,240 --> 02:13:59,400
Speaker 7: Daniel Jones.

2480
02:13:59,240 --> 02:14:01,440
Speaker 1: Well and then obvious, so he's got the coaching connection

2481
02:14:01,600 --> 02:14:03,920
Speaker 1: with the Mannings and you know, play with Eli and

2482
02:14:03,960 --> 02:14:05,320
Speaker 1: you know all of it. Right, there are a lot

2483
02:14:05,320 --> 02:14:07,760
Speaker 1: of there were a lot of things intertwining between them.

2484
02:14:07,840 --> 02:14:09,760
Speaker 7: Do you think Peyton and Eli that thing is as

2485
02:14:09,760 --> 02:14:11,360
Speaker 7: good as it was when it first started?

2486
02:14:11,800 --> 02:14:14,640
Speaker 1: That is a great question. Do you think it's I

2487
02:14:14,640 --> 02:14:16,920
Speaker 1: think it's probably still as good except for that, I

2488
02:14:16,960 --> 02:14:20,280
Speaker 1: think now people have just it's become I think people

2489
02:14:20,280 --> 02:14:20,920
Speaker 1: almost forget it.

2490
02:14:21,000 --> 02:14:23,280
Speaker 7: I think they leave a lot on the table. If like,

2491
02:14:23,520 --> 02:14:27,280
Speaker 7: if Jeff Daniels would be it seems like sometimes he

2492
02:14:27,320 --> 02:14:30,160
Speaker 7: doesn't really hear what's being said. I think he is

2493
02:14:30,240 --> 02:14:32,960
Speaker 7: so good and would have been even better if it

2494
02:14:33,040 --> 02:14:36,880
Speaker 7: were easier of a connection. It just seems like it's

2495
02:14:36,960 --> 02:14:39,760
Speaker 7: kind of a little bit awkward sometimes. Athought Daniel Jones.

2496
02:14:39,800 --> 02:14:42,480
Speaker 7: At least Daniel Jones had an actual camera, but Jeff

2497
02:14:42,520 --> 02:14:46,280
Speaker 7: Daniels is going off his computer yeah, three times.

2498
02:14:46,480 --> 02:14:48,320
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of times where it gets a

2499
02:14:48,320 --> 02:14:50,000
Speaker 1: little bit off. But I love those guys.

2500
02:14:50,040 --> 02:14:53,200
Speaker 7: Those guys, I like listening to them talk, but sometimes

2501
02:14:53,200 --> 02:14:54,680
Speaker 7: you also want to hear the play by play of

2502
02:14:54,760 --> 02:14:55,920
Speaker 7: the game that's going on too.

2503
02:14:56,080 --> 02:14:56,280
Speaker 3: Well.

2504
02:14:56,320 --> 02:14:59,120
Speaker 1: Their reactions are usually pretty good too, i'd agree. Yeah,

2505
02:14:59,160 --> 02:15:01,400
Speaker 1: all right, John's up, Boomer assizes, and what time for

2506
02:15:01,440 --> 02:15:02,040
Speaker 1: Boomer John?

2507
02:15:02,720 --> 02:15:05,000
Speaker 4: Five o'clock for Boomer, five o'clock.

2508
02:15:04,760 --> 02:15:07,840
Speaker 1: Hour for Boomer Assias. And we will be back with

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02:15:07,880 --> 02:15:10,600
Speaker 1: you at noon tomorrow. I thank you for listening to

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Speaker 1: Querying Company.