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Speaker 1: but there's nothing about him that jumps out, and you

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Speaker 1: wonder how long he's going to be there. And Kentucky's

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Speaker 1: basketball coach is a legacy who's a nice guy, but

436
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Speaker 1: there's nothing about him that really jumps out, and you

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Speaker 1: wonder how long he's going to be there. And Louisville's

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Speaker 1: head coach is a quirky guy and he's a little

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Speaker 1: in your face, and I like him, and you think

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Speaker 1: that he's going to be there for a while, but

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Speaker 1: you also wonder if he's going to wear out on people.

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Speaker 1: And Kansas's head coach has had like health challenges, and

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Speaker 1: you wonder how long he's going to be there now,

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Speaker 1: even though he's a fabulous coach and a good dude

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Speaker 1: and all that. But this latest news in college basketball

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Speaker 1: Baylor signing a player in the middle of the year

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Speaker 1: that was a draft pick in the NBA who had

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Speaker 1: not yet played a college game because he was coming

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Speaker 1: from overseas. And now he's been drafted into the NBA.

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Speaker 1: But even with an NBA team having his draft rights,

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Speaker 1: he decides that he wants to instead go to college

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Speaker 1: and the NCAA clears it. And I jokingly said, like

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Speaker 1: a month ago, I jokingly said, what's going to stop this?

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Speaker 1: Eventually from Romeo Langford saying you know what, I got

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Speaker 1: three years left in Indiana or Steph Curry saying I

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Speaker 1: got a year left to Davidson or Janis saying I

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Speaker 1: got four years. I can go play a Marquette on

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Speaker 1: Tuesdays and Thursdays and play for the Bucks on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: And that seemed ludicrous.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that the NCAA now and I get

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Speaker 1: this in today's day in free market enterprise of name

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Speaker 1: image likeness and in other sports we've been seeing this forever.

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Speaker 1: I don't damn the players for it, I don't damn

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Speaker 1: the universities for it. But college basketball as we know

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Speaker 1: it today looks different than the magic of college basketball

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Speaker 1: when you were sitting by the tree waiting for your

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Speaker 1: parents to wake up to unpack the magic of Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Things change, father time is undefeated, Things evolve, things grow,

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Speaker 1: and it's about finding the magic within it that gave

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Speaker 1: you that magic from the get go that made you

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Speaker 1: fall in love with the idea and the concept of something.

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Speaker 1: But it feels like college basketball now with this literally

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Speaker 1: instantaneous change, this sudden like boom in terms of this,

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Speaker 1: and you could see it coming, don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 1: But when they now clear for a guy who had

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Speaker 1: been in the NBA draft and now he is instead

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Speaker 1: of the NBA draft, he's going to go into college

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Speaker 1: and how long is he going to be there? And

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Speaker 1: what happens if what happens if on March first, the

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Speaker 1: team that drafted a player says, you know what, we

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Speaker 1: do want that guy, after all, you're right, We're going

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Speaker 1: to give you X amount of dollars, and boom, he

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Speaker 1: signs and now they need him, and they guarantee him

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Speaker 1: a starting spot in the NBA and the EBB and

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Speaker 1: flow of the players coming and going with that or

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Speaker 1: knowing where they're going, or understanding or trying to predict

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Speaker 1: or grasp the likelihood that they are going to be

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Speaker 1: staying in a program. It feels to me like that

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Speaker 1: is absolutely a to the nose punch to the popularity

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Speaker 1: of college basketball. People will eventually, as we do, figure

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Speaker 1: it out out, and once the shock is overcome, I

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Speaker 1: think people will come back to the table and be like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, it just looks different, but the magic

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Speaker 1: is still the same. But for right now, it is

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Speaker 1: a jolt to the system, a jolt to the system

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Speaker 1: for college basketball, and I think it could have serious

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Speaker 1: implications on the popularity and the revenue of that sport,

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Speaker 1: at least in the short term versus long But when

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Speaker 1: we come back we mentioned it the Colts on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: could they actually be going out in what would then

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Speaker 1: be an exhibition game? And how does that impact one

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Speaker 1: of the most important positions on the field. I'll explain

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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about on the other side. JP Shadwick

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Speaker 1: down in Jacksonville, coming up top of the hour. It

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Speaker 1: is a Friday Merry Christmas edition Query company here in

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Speaker 1: ninety three five one h seventy five to the fan.

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Speaker 2: Eddie.

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Speaker 1: In terms of last night, I know you mentioned that

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Speaker 1: you watched several holiday movies. Yes, what was the best

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Speaker 1: Christmas gift you got?

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Speaker 3: By the way, I got a new phone? Oh really,

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Speaker 3: that was the only gift I got.

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Speaker 2: Now, what do you mind me asking? What phone?

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Speaker 3: The iPhone seventeen Promax.

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Speaker 2: There you go, and that has the Now, now that's different.

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Speaker 2: What did you have before that?

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Speaker 3: I think the thirteen?

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Speaker 2: So what's what have you noticed? Is the major difference?

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Speaker 2: And let me give you this heads up.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I'm assuming with the new iPhone seventeen

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Speaker 1: Imax that you have right that that phone I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: automatically puts in. And everyone says this every time they

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Speaker 1: do the update, because it becomes new and you're unfamiliar

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Speaker 1: with it. But I cannot be the only one that

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Speaker 1: feels this way. I cannot be the only one that

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Speaker 1: feels this way. The new update on the iOS or

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Speaker 1: whatever it's called on the iPhone, I think I'm on

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Speaker 1: twenty six point one or whatever it is, is terrible.

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Speaker 1: Everything's the opposite of your muscle memory. And I know

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Speaker 1: that eventually you get used to it. It's like I said,

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Speaker 1: today is about like the adjustment of expectation Friday right,

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Speaker 1: all of it, but but also like videos freeze now

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Speaker 1: and I all kinds of but like never be never,

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Speaker 1: And I did not intentionally upgrade to it.

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Speaker 2: My phone did it automatically.

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Speaker 1: The magic of the night, like like little elves came in,

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Speaker 1: like the ones that you like, the Fragrouns, and they

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Speaker 1: did it for me. Yeah, so what is different about

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Speaker 1: your phone than the one you previously had.

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Speaker 3: There's some like Apple Intelligence stuff in here. I don't

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Speaker 3: fully know. I haven't really Apple Intelligence. Yeah, like it's

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Speaker 3: like Apple AI essentially.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you're you're you got a new phone that

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Speaker 2: costs people jobs. That's cool.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it did or not.

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Speaker 2: Any other distinctive differences that you.

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Speaker 3: Camera qualities improve it.

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Speaker 2: I've also noticed this.

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Speaker 1: Everyone talks about how on my phone you need to

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Speaker 1: get the new phone because it's got a better camera,

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Speaker 1: and I said, my phone is perfectly sufficient. My phone.

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Speaker 1: The camera on my phone has like I kid you not.

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Speaker 1: I notice now the pictures once I take them they're

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Speaker 1: like they come in grainier, and I think that this

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Speaker 1: is another one of those things where they're doing that intentionally.

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Speaker 1: They're making me have to go get the new phone.

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Speaker 1: But either way, last night, from a sports viewing standpoint,

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Speaker 1: did you opt for NBA or NFL?

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Speaker 3: I didn't opt for a lot of sports viewing yesterday, understandable.

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Speaker 3: I think I watched it bit of the Commanders and

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys. I watched briefly a little bit the tail

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Speaker 3: end of the Broncos and the Chiefs game, and then

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Speaker 3: maybe a series or two of the Vikings and the Lions.

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Speaker 3: And I saw the thunder loose to the Spurs a

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Speaker 3: little bit of that one, and then Calves and the

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Speaker 3: Knicks to start the day. But I didn't watch them

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Speaker 3: for a long periods, like five ten minutes maybe each.

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Speaker 1: I, by the way, in the Quarrying Company Fantasy football

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Speaker 1: league in which Chicago's Pizza is, I think probably going

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Speaker 1: to win the league, yeah, which is funny because the prize,

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Speaker 1: of course, the coveted prize that everybody wanted was the

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Speaker 1: you know, gift cards.

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Speaker 2: To Chicago's Pizza.

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Speaker 1: But the I'm in, I think the seventh place game,

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Speaker 1: the third place game. This is my complaint with fantasy

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Speaker 1: football in general this time of year and the challenge

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Speaker 1: of it. Okay, I had and yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 1: my team has like literally middle of the pack. But

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Speaker 1: I I was conscientious enough to go in and look

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Speaker 1: at my roster and I'm like, and nobody cares about

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Speaker 1: your fantasy team, I realized, but people can relate to this.

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Speaker 1: And the running back, one of the running backs that

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Speaker 1: I was going to start, was doubtful. So I went

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Speaker 1: literally and dropped somebody who had been placed on ir

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Speaker 1: like on Monday, and picked up a new running back.

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Speaker 1: And it was a running back for Washington. And I

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Speaker 1: have Washington's the back yesterday that was so good for them,

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Speaker 1: you know, cross key merit. I have him, I've had

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Speaker 1: them all year. But he was injured, so I went

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Speaker 1: with the guy that was going to fill in for him. Well,

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Speaker 1: that guy then gets listed is out like right at.

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Speaker 3: The kick Chris Rodriguez.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, there was no indication of that none illness.

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Speaker 2: It's going around.

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, right, So now I have a

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Speaker 1: guy that is you know, literally you didn't know he

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Speaker 1: was out until like the time in which you can't

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Speaker 1: do anything about it. Yep, and that's one of the

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Speaker 1: frustrating things about fantasy football at this point in the year.

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Speaker 1: But there are so many uncertainties and questions in general.

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Speaker 1: So let's get to the questions of what it means

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Speaker 1: for the Colts and their postseason chances. When you are

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Speaker 1: getting set on Sunday to go to Lucas Oil Staium

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Speaker 1: and watch the game, and hopefully you're going to swing

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Speaker 1: by the Slippery Noodle for the pregame tailgate, but it

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Speaker 1: is possible that you are going in and seeing a

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Speaker 1: game that does not impact the Colts playoff chances. Because

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Speaker 1: the way it is, what the Colts need to get

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Speaker 1: into the playoffs, they need to win out and they

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Speaker 1: need to begin they need Houston to lose their final two.

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Speaker 1: So if Houston beats the LA Chargers, then the Colts.

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Speaker 3: Are out, correct, Eddie, I believe so.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Even then tiebreakers come into play if everything falls

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Speaker 1: their way. But as it stands right now, that's where

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Speaker 1: things are. If the Colts sit back tomorrow and watch

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Speaker 1: Houston win in Los Angeles against the Chargers. If Houston

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Speaker 1: wins that game, Colts are out. Does Philip Rivers start Sunday?

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Speaker 1: If that's the case.

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Speaker 2: That is the other great question, and I would think, no,

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Speaker 2: don't you.

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Speaker 3: Would It be hard to go from planning all week

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Speaker 3: with Philip Rivers as your starter to pull in the

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Speaker 3: rug on Saturday night or Sunday morning to hey, we're

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Speaker 3: going to start Riley Leonard.

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Speaker 1: I think Philip Rivers may start, and I think it

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Speaker 1: might be smart for him to start. And when they

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Speaker 1: play Houston in Houston in the final week of the season,

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Speaker 1: I think even if the Colts are eliminated altogether, I

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Speaker 1: think it's possible Philip Rivers may start, and I think

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Speaker 1: it might be smart for him to start. And I've

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Speaker 1: heard people say, why not go with Riley Leonard, He's

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Speaker 1: the future. I don't know that he is. He's not

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Speaker 1: the future in terms of certainly a starter, and he

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Speaker 1: may not be the future in terms of their backup.

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Speaker 1: He is a guy that they put on the roster

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Speaker 1: because you maybe you feel like three years from now,

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Speaker 1: he could be a guy that you know you have

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Speaker 1: some things to develop from him, and that you didn't

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Speaker 1: expect to have to call his number or even have

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Speaker 1: him in discussion this early. But there is a very

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Speaker 1: specific reason why I think it might be in the

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Speaker 1: best interest of the Colts to start Philip Rivers for

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Speaker 1: two more games. Crazy as that sounds, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying it even happens, but there might be a reason

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Speaker 1: why it's in their best interest. And I'll explain that

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Speaker 1: to you and lay it out for you next. Jake Query,

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Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison Query Companies. The name of the program here

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Speaker 1: are ninety three five one oh seven five the Fan.

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to all of you or whatever it may

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Speaker 1: be that you celebrate. Hope you had a fabulous Christmas.

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Speaker 1: And if you are out and about returning gifts, doing

652
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Speaker 1: whatever it may be, and you are including us in

653
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Speaker 1: your day to day, I thank you for that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Boxing day? What's that?

655
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Speaker 3: Happy Boxing Day?

656
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Speaker 2: Do you know what that means?

657
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

658
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: I used to think it meant like people were going

659
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Speaker 2: out and punching each other.

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00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 3: Of course you did.

661
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: You're boxing everything up and taking it back.

662
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Speaker 1: That's a British and the Brits and then the Canadians

663
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: followed that up and then we of course, you know, said,

664
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Speaker 1: oh that sounds cool. But does boxing day now just

665
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: mean that you've got to go over to fresh Market

666
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: and return everything on Amazon? Is that what that means, yeah,

667
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a great question. After the San

668
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: Francisco game, I found it fascinating to watch the miked

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Speaker 1: up version with Philip Rivers. And you know, when Philip

670
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: Rivers threw his first touchdown and he's on the field

671
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: and he's doing that gyrating dance he was doing, and

672
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: it is fun and it is amusing to hear him,

673
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Speaker 1: you know, the Dad gummets and all that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's it's good stuff. After the game though, when he

675
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: was talking to John Lynch, he says, not man, I

676
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: feel good, I feel great.

677
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: I missed it. I feel great out there.

678
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Speaker 1: And that's a guy at forty four that is coming

679
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Speaker 1: off of the street. He's not been doing. I mean,

680
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's been doing conditioning, but there's nothing like

681
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: NFL conditioning that you've got to do. That's a guy

682
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Speaker 1: in Philip Rivers. Keep in mind that for four years

683
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: now has been eating not NFL chef cuisine. I mean,

684
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Speaker 1: I don't know that people realize the Pacers locker room,

685
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: you know, and the Colts.

686
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: I mean, they have.

687
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Speaker 1: Both in the facility and on game day, at least

688
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Speaker 1: for the Pacers standpoint, they have a kitchen there with

689
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Speaker 1: chefs on staff that literally for every player, they know

690
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: what that player's body, that they're blood type, what they

691
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: best feed off of. Pardon the pun et cetera, custom

692
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: made for every player to put every player in the

693
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Speaker 1: maximum shape and condition. And Philip Rivers is feeling good

694
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Speaker 1: without even any of that benefit. Therefore, if you look

695
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Speaker 1: at the quarterback situation of the Colts moving forward, I

696
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: believe firmly that the Colts' best option at quarterback for

697
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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty sixth season, meaning next season, their best

698
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Speaker 1: option at quarterback is Daniel Jones.

699
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Speaker 2: And that's Daniel Jones coming off of a mended Achilles tendon.

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Speaker 2: We don't know.

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Speaker 1: His level of effectiveness and mobility, but we know that

702
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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson's going to be in a contract year. Anthony

703
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: Richardson has been very inconsistent. Anthony Richardson, there's question even

704
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: about his vision in general, literally and figuratively. And Anthony Richardson,

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00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: there is question about the relationship that Shane Stikeen or

706
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,959
Speaker 1: the trust is a better way of saying it. Shane

707
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: Steiken has in him. They can't go and draft a quarterback.

708
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Speaker 1: They can, but we know that it's going to be,

709
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Speaker 1: at the best case scenario, a second round pick, and

710
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: we know, I mean the Colts swung and missed on

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Speaker 1: taking a quarterback in the top five and didn't put

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00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 1: the right pieces or steps around him or handle it. Then,

713
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Speaker 1: So how do we anticipate they're going to do so?

714
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Speaker 1: If it's a second round pick, Daniel Jones gives them

715
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Speaker 1: the most long term stability. If they can sign him,

716
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Speaker 1: maybe to a two year, proven deal, they're going to

717
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Speaker 1: get him at less money than what it would have

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Speaker 1: cost him if Daniel Jones had not gotten hurt and

719
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Speaker 1: the Colts right now were standing at an Yeah, I

720
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Speaker 1: don't think that anybody was anticipating that at this point

721
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Speaker 1: in the year the Colts were going to be thirteen

722
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: in two or twelve and three. But let's just say,

723
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Speaker 1: let's say right now they were eleven. They're eleven and

724
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Speaker 1: four and Daniel Jones is healthy and he's still playing. Yeah,

725
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: he started to regress a little bit, and Pittsburgh did

726
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: expose a little bit about what you do to get

727
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: him uncomfortable. But if all of those things were true,

728
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: he was about to sign a three to four year,

729
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: thirty five million per year contract I would assume if

730
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: you franchise tag him, it's going to be extremely costly.

731
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Speaker 1: Kevin's pointed that out, Kevin Bowen, But if you sign

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Speaker 1: him to a two year deal right now, I would

733
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: think you can get him at a much more economic

734
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Speaker 1: price tag than you would have in the situation I

735
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: just laid out. So you bring him back, But you say,

736
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Speaker 1: we believe that Daniel Jones, when he comes back in,

737
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Speaker 1: we want to make sure that we're giving him time

738
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Speaker 1: to ease back into the water. We're going to give

739
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: him time to make sure that the achilles is healthy,

740
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Speaker 1: to make sure that he is in rhythm, to make

741
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: sure that his timing is there, all of those things.

742
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Speaker 1: And the way that we're going to do that is

743
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: we are going to and yes, there are many that

744
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: say Ralph Rief, who knows this stuff better than anybody

745
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: in my opinion, said on this show he believes that

746
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones may actually be creating a lot of optimism

747
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: by May and then by say September could be ready

748
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 1: to go. But that again is not having been out

749
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: there getting and yes, Philip Rivers just showed you can

750
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Speaker 1: get in there with feel and timing and get that,

751
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: but getting into the playing shape.

752
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Speaker 2: It's going to take a while.

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Speaker 1: So based on all of that, is it in the

754
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Speaker 1: cult's best interest to start Philip Rivers for the next

755
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: two weeks because the fact that you believe there is

756
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Speaker 1: the possibility that you bring him back next year if

757
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 1: he wants, He feels great, He's missed it, he loves

758
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: being out there. The juice is flowing for Philip Rivers.

759
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 1: And Philip Rivers knows and Shane Steiken knows, and Chris

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00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: Ballard knows that if you bring back Philip Rivers, you

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Speaker 1: are not bringing him back with the assumption that you

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Speaker 1: are going to be starting him beyond, say, two to

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Speaker 1: four games next year. So you get him at you

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Speaker 1: pay him a minimum amount of money or whatever the

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Speaker 1: VET minimum is, and Rivers probably would be like, Hey,

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00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: you know what, chance to stamp myself back into the

767
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame and pick up a little extra cash.

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00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: Cool, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Good motivation for the kids I coach in high school

770
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: football to see what I'm doing. So you start him

771
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: these last two games to continue his reacclimation of timing

772
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: and familiarity with reps with my Michael Pittman and with

773
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren and with Jonathan Taylor and Alec Pearce knock

774
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: on wood and hope that Alec Pierce comes back, But

775
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: is it in their best interest to do that regardless

776
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: of outcome this year because of the possibility that Philip

777
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: Rivers is going to be your starting quarterback for one

778
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: to three games to start next year before he hands

779
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: the keys back over to.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones. That is breaking news, Eddie.

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00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 3: Yes, Sir, Colts out on the practice field currently. This

782
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 3: is from James Boyd on the injury report this week.

783
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 3: It's been two estimated practices. It was a walkthrough on

784
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 3: Wednesday for the Indianapolis Colts. They did not practice yesterday

785
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 3: with it being Christmas. He did not see DeForest Buckner

786
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 3: dealing with that neck injury that he just returned on

787
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 3: Monday against San Francisco from on the practice field today,

788
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Speaker 3: which means, if it is true that he did not

789
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Speaker 3: practice in a limited capacity today, he was an estimated

790
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 3: DNP on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. Not looking good for

791
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Speaker 3: DeForest Buckner for Sunday's game if that's the case.

792
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you.

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Speaker 1: Keep an eye on the long term prospect of DeForest

794
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Speaker 1: Buckner as a cult and the fact that DeForest Buckner is.

795
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 2: Fabulous player.

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Speaker 1: And by all account from what I can tell, fabulous teammate,

797
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: fabulous leader. DeForest Buckner has been since the time he

798
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: was acquired by the Colts, he has been everything that

799
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: you would want. He has been the consummant pro. He's

800
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: been the one guy on that defensive line that you

801
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: could count on game in and game out, and the

802
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 1: leader and a good dude all the way around. Nothing

803
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: but good things to say. But also would not surprise

804
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: me if the Forest Buckner looks at it and says,

805
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: I now, not once, but twice have had to go

806
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: to Europe for stem cell research. I am dealing with

807
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: a neck injury. And since the Indianapolis Colts have acquired me,

808
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: I've won a playoff game. It would not surprise me

809
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: at all. If let me rephrase that, surprise me. Maybe

810
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me though, if the forest Buckner, maybe not

811
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Speaker 1: this year, but just eventually prematurely said that that's it.

812
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 2: More news from Eddie Garrett.

813
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 3: On the Indiana Pacers side of things, Jake, they have

814
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 3: signed Micah Potter, former stand out with the Wisconsin Badgers.

815
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Speaker 3: In a subsequent move, Slash moves. James Wiseman's ten day

816
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 3: contract has expired and they have waived Garrison Matthews.

817
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 2: Really kay, that surprises me little bit. So what does

818
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 2: that mean for James Wiseman.

819
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 3: Uh, he is back out on the open market.

820
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 1: Oh so okay, So you're saying James Wiseman the ten

821
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: day contract.

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Speaker 2: They did not pick that back up, is what you're saying. Correct.

823
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Speaker 1: By the way, this is the only thing I can

824
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: tell you. Do you know what you get if you

825
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: combined their newest signing, Micah Potter with the shoulder area

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Speaker 1: of Jay.

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Speaker 2: Huff, you get one Harryman Harry Potter. Yeah, that's what

828
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Speaker 2: you get. Yeah. See how I do that? Yeah, and

829
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 2: then they can and you would think they would play

830
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Speaker 2: for the Wizards.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's what I do. I'm here all week. Did

832
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Speaker 1: you get ahold of JP? Yes, Sir JP shatterick Jags

833
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: dot cos I don't know if he's in town meeting

834
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Speaker 1: all the single ladies.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: Well, have to catch up on that, right, Yeah, find

837
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Speaker 1: out find out if Santa brought him game for Christmas.

838
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: JP from Jacksonville Jaguars dot Com joins us next inadvertently

839
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: when we were discussing with our friend JP Shadwick down

840
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville before the Colts and Jags were playing in

841
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: Round number one.

842
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 2: Down in Jacksonville.

843
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Speaker 1: I simply asked the question if he was a married fellow,

844
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Speaker 1: and he said no, and then I believe later he

845
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: said something along the lines of like, let the ladies

846
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: of Indie know now most of the ladies in Indianapolis

847
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: that are single are probably outdoing today returning gifts.

848
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Speaker 4: Right, Eddie and single ladies of Indianapolis, please reach out.

849
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: That's right again, that's our friend JP from the first

850
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Speaker 2: go round.

851
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: Now here it is. The time has arrived and this

852
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: might be the biggest storyline of the weekend, at least

853
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Speaker 1: from the cold standpoint of things. But joining us now

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Speaker 1: in the Java House Peel and poor guestline Java house

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Speaker 1: Jake twenty five the discount code JP. Joining us now

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Speaker 1: on the program, JP. First off, Marry Christmas to you. Yeah,

860
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas. That's that's quite a memory. You guys have

861
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: I didn't know ize that makes such an impression on

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00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: everyone there, the dulcet tones of JP Shadwick, I mean,

863
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: and we we've been anticipating it. I mean, and I think,

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00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, a lot of the single

865
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: ladies of Indianapolis have been waiting and circle this on

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Speaker 1: the calendar. Well, if you really want to know.

867
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Speaker 4: The truth, Unfortunately, I'll be stuck in the studio in

868
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 4: Jacksonville this week. I'm not making the trip.

869
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: Ah Eddie, do you happen to have the breaking news

870
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: Sundard by chance?

871
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: Please if you come.

872
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: This just and the reality show that was going to

873
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: be JP's Love's Select at Harry and Isis has been

874
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: canceled for this weekend. Well, JP, thanks for joining us.

875
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,919
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next year. All right, Hey, let's

876
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: get to this. This is clearly Look and you tell

877
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: me what has been the difference for this Jacks team,

878
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: because this very quietly, JP, this might be right now

879
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: the hottest team in the NFL. And they they seem

880
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: to be on a different level clearly than they have been.

881
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: They're playing their best ball at the best time. What

882
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 1: has been the difference?

883
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, the quarterback play is the difference. I mean,

884
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 4: he is playing out of his mind right now or

885
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 4: is it? I mean that's the great question. Is it

886
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 4: out of his mind? Or is this the new level,

887
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 4: the next step for Trevor Lawrence? And I think he's

888
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 4: starting to prove that maybe he has taken a step.

889
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 4: Is it the ultimate final step that he wants to

890
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 4: be all the time? I don't know who's still room

891
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 4: for improvement, but that's been the number one thing because

892
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 4: they really haven't run the ball especially well over the

893
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 4: last month or so since we saw you guys, but

894
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 4: he has really been executing in the passing game at

895
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 4: a very high level and maybe not you know, statistically

896
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 4: big numbers games, but big throws in big moments without

897
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 4: hesitation and trusting everything in this offense right now. So

898
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 4: for me, that's that's the number one thing. When you

899
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 4: have everything else going well on defense especially, and then

900
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 4: all of a sudden you have the quarterback playing at

901
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 4: a high level, that's something you just haven't seen around

902
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 4: here in a long long time.

903
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,919
Speaker 1: Getting him playing at a high level, and we're talking

904
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: about Trevor Lawrence. Is that based on schematically they have

905
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: changed things in more design things to get him in

906
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: comfort or is it simply a matter of, hey, he's

907
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: getting protected and his weapons are healthy and now he

908
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 1: feels in rhythm.

909
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think it's a little bit of

910
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 4: a combination of that. I mean, I think it's more

911
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 4: just comfortability in the offense as the season has gone on.

912
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 4: That's one thing. The verbiage of it. It's long winded.

913
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 4: You know, they're getting to the line faster and so

914
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 4: they have all the presnat motions and reads that they

915
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 4: can do. Early in the season it was sober both

916
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 4: that they were late getting to the line and it

917
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 4: was hectic and he wasn't comfortable. So they eliminated that

918
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 4: snap process so he can think clearly when he's at

919
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 4: the line and has time to manage whatever he needs

920
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 4: to and then just letting it rip. I mean, they

921
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,439
Speaker 4: had a conversation about that, he and Liam Cohen did

922
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 4: about hey, man, don't worry about an interception. Don't throw

923
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 4: four in a game, but if you throw one, it's

924
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 4: worth it if you get three or four shots down

925
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 4: the field because of it. So that since that conversation

926
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 4: has been a really different feel for the quarterback. So

927
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 4: I think it's a combination of it. They might be

928
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 4: calling a few things, different guys are catching the ball.

929
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 4: I mean that wasn't happening early in the season. I

930
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 4: mean you laughed, but that was a problem really early.

931
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 4: I think this still lead the league in drops from

932
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 4: all the stuff early in the season. So reliability of

933
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 4: the receivers, confidence in the passing attack, and then comfortability

934
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 4: in this offense. It's all just kind of come together

935
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 4: at the right.

936
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 2: Time when you look.

937
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: And I'm curious if Trevor Lawrence has discussed this at all, JP,

938
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: because and I've mentioned this before JP Shadrick my guest

939
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: Jaba House, Peeling Port guest line from down in Jacksonville

940
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: when Lawrence was in college, And I think this is

941
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 1: a challenge when assessing some time quarterbacks. He had all

942
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: the intangibles coming out right, But if you realistically look,

943
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: he's throwing the ball to t Higgins, He's throwing the

944
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: ball to Amari Rodgers, he's throwing the ball to Justin Ross.

945
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: He's throwing to guys that are at the collegiate level.

946
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: You know, a step and a half open on window

947
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: and timing doesn't have to be as precise. Has he

948
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: ever discussed whether or not that was an adjustment for him,

949
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: and maybe even adjustment that was continually delayed for him

950
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville.

951
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 4: Well, I think there was so much other, so many

952
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 4: other things going on that that was probably the least

953
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 4: of his concerns when he first came in because of

954
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 4: everything going on in the coaching situation here at the time.

955
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 4: Remember it was urban Meyer, and it was all the

956
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 4: off the field stuff. And he had some early moments

957
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 4: in that season, like the game in Cincinnati, I think

958
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 4: week four before the whole urban Meyer thing, right that trip. Uh,

959
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 4: he actually played well and fought back in that game

960
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 4: and used his legs and figured out a way and

961
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 4: I'll said, this is a good step. But then it's

962
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 4: all just kind of melted down around that. Yeah, and

963
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 4: and there is a little I think to what you're saying, Yeah,

964
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 4: you have to be you have to lead guys properly here,

965
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 4: you have to fit it and layer it into windows

966
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 4: down the field. But again, when there's not confidence in

967
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 4: the line or inconsistency in the receiver play, it was

968
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 4: I think probably a little hard for him to just

969
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 4: let it loose. And you know, when he finally got

970
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 4: to the playoffs, you know he took the four picks. Well,

971
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 4: then it's like, we have nothing to loose. Just let

972
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 4: it loose. And you saw I played in the second

973
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 4: half of that game.

974
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 5: Just let it fly.

975
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 4: And that's the Trevor Lawrence you want without the four picks?

976
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 2: Of course, can you elaborate?

977
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: And I know at this point, especially for you, it's

978
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 1: ancient history and it's a book that perhaps has been closed.

979
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: But JP Shatterck and I know you're with the the

980
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: you know, Jaguars dot com. But we hear about the

981
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer for those that are unfamiliar with it. You know,

982
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: the when they played Cincinnati, he stayed back in Ohio,

983
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: he didn't go back to Florida with the team. That

984
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: obviously created a lot of you know what in the world.

985
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 2: And then a.

986
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: Photo came out of him at a bar that created

987
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: a second what in the world?

988
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 4: Was it?

989
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: Was there even more to it than that per se

990
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: or was it just kind of the lack of presence

991
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 1: if you will.

992
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 4: I think there was a general lack of that. You

993
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 4: know that those were the big things. Obviously, as the

994
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 4: other moments, there was problems with the kicker here apparently

995
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 4: allegedly kicked the kicker or whatever on the practice field

996
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 4: and some other things behind the scenes like that. So

997
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 4: there was a series I'm guessing of event. I mean,

998
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 4: that seems like it to me. It's not just one

999
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 4: thing that was the big one, and then then it

1000
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 4: was pretty much all over from there and they just

1001
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 4: had to kind of riote it as much as they could,

1002
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 4: and then it became untenable towards the end of that season.

1003
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 4: I think he got thirteen games in before they finally

1004
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 4: made change. So you know that that was another lost opportunity,

1005
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,479
Speaker 4: you know, and it just kind of extended what Sead

1006
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 4: conn and then the Jags ownership wanted to do. And

1007
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 4: then they ended up getting Doug Peterson in here and

1008
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 4: actually had some success for a couple of years, two

1009
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 4: nine win seasons under Peterson. Then unfortunately that didn't work

1010
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 4: out either. So here we are with Liam Cohen and

1011
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 4: in a really good spot eleven win seasons so far.

1012
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: You know, if you look at the Colts season JP

1013
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: and yes, the Colts obviously had the quarterback injury situation,

1014
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: but at the same time they got out to a

1015
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 1: great start. You could look back now and say, okay,

1016
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 1: maybe they got and they did. They got fat off

1017
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: some bad teams. Right, if you take out and you know,

1018
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: beating the Chargers is impressive, Beating Denver's impressive. You take

1019
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: that out twenty and fifty five the record of the

1020
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: teams the Colts have beaten. How much of this stability

1021
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 1: that Jacksonville has found could be potentially fools gold because

1022
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: they also have been able to do it against the

1023
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 1: meat of their schedule Arizona, Tennessee, the Colts for that matter,

1024
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: the Jets, although winning against Denver is impressive, but is

1025
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 1: there any concern of that, Well.

1026
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 4: They beat San Francisco at San Francisco and they beat

1027
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 4: the Chargers.

1028
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, though, I mean the latest streak I'm saying,

1029
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, just you know, in terms of.

1030
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 4: I mean, you want to talk about the latest streak,

1031
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 4: that's fine, I want to talk about the whole season.

1032
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 4: I mean, they've they've done some things early when they

1033
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 4: were a little inconsistent against some really good teams, and

1034
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 4: then I think going to Denver proved that. Yeah, I'm

1035
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 4: with you that some of those teams they were playing

1036
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 4: as of late and having some issues with in close games.

1037
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 4: Arizona one of those, Vegas one of those they won

1038
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 4: those games. They found a way. They didn't beat Houston

1039
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,439
Speaker 4: the second time because they cave up a nineteen point

1040
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 4: leading the fourth quarter, But that changed the whole mindset

1041
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 4: of this team that they're never going to let that

1042
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 4: happen again. We've heard that here before over the years,

1043
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 4: and they've let it happen again that they haven't yet.

1044
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 4: And the ultimate proof, I think right now at least

1045
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 4: is that they went out to Denver, the number one seed,

1046
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 4: the number one defense in the league allegedly and put

1047
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 4: up thirty eight points on them, I mean that and

1048
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 4: dominated the game. So that's you can play what's on

1049
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 4: the schedule, and they're beating everybody that's on the schedule

1050
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 4: right now in a lot of different ways.

1051
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: Is there another area that? And it does appear as

1052
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: though you pointed out well, JP, and I appreciate it

1053
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: that by and large, it's been consistent, right, I mean,

1054
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: they've been consistently obviously competitive all year long, but this

1055
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: isn't you know?

1056
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: You're right?

1057
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: You go back and you look and Kansas City was

1058
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: in there too. I think you mentioned them early when.

1059
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 4: They went to night football.

1060
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: Absolutely, so when you look at that, are there other

1061
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: areas aside from quarterback play that perhaps have been overshadowed.

1062
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: That were question marks going in that Jacksonville has addressed.

1063
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 4: You know, there were early in the season on defense, Okay,

1064
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 4: how are they going to stop the run? It's totally

1065
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 4: new scheme on defense, some new faces in there. Can

1066
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 4: they do that?

1067
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 5: Because they couldn't figure.

1068
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 4: It out last season, especially against a.

1069
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 5: Team like the Colts. Jonathan Taylor and I.

1070
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 4: Think as the season has gone along, it was the

1071
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 4: same idea, right, Okay, you haven't really played a great

1072
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 4: running team yet, Let's let's see if you can go

1073
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 4: play a good, physical offensive line and defensively hold up

1074
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 4: against them. And they've improved that as the year has

1075
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 4: gone along, and that's been really a key to everything else.

1076
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 4: If they can stop the running game, then it sets

1077
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 4: up a little bit of the pass rush. They don't

1078
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 4: have big sack numbers, but they have some pressure numbers,

1079
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 4: which is not an official stat, I get it, but

1080
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 4: it causes things down the field to happen. So that's

1081
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 4: where the takeaway numbers are so high second in the NFL.

1082
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,439
Speaker 4: Because the quarterbacks rushed a bit. You gotta let it fly,

1083
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 4: tip ball pick, you know, So it all starts for

1084
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 4: me with the stopping of the run game, and those

1085
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 4: guys up front have really done a great job. Devon

1086
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 4: Hamilton is back to his form before his back in

1087
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 4: three a couple of years ago, and that's a great

1088
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 4: for this defense moving ahead. If it's consistent down the

1089
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 4: stretch and end of the postseason, they got a shot

1090
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:05,479
Speaker 4: to make.

1091
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: A run, you know they Parker Washington is a guy

1092
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: that was drafted. He was not a top pick. The

1093
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: Jaguars have spent resources on the receiver position in the

1094
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: last couple of years, but Washington and Thomas have very

1095
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: similar seasons. Statistically. Is one the primary over the other?

1096
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: JP Or is one appear to be the who is

1097
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence's comfort player?

1098
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 2: If you will, It's a good one.

1099
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 4: And I'd probably lean more towards If I'm picking between

1100
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 4: those two, I would pick Parker Washington because he's the

1101
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,919
Speaker 4: catch and run guy, and you know he can catch

1102
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 4: it five yards and then run for twenty after. Brian

1103
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 4: Thomas is the down the field threat, vertical threat, and

1104
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 4: you know he had some drops early in the season

1105
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 4: and on the inbreaking stuff was having trouble. They've kind

1106
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 4: of recrafted what he is involved in this offense, and

1107
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 4: Denver last week actually put Sutana on him most of

1108
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 4: the game, followed him around and kind of took him out.

1109
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 4: So Trevor Lawrence like, we got three or four other

1110
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 4: guys we can throw to here, and they did that.

1111
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 4: They spread the wealth in the running back room has

1112
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 4: been big in the passing game too, and a checkdown

1113
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 4: game if they have to go there. So it's a

1114
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 4: full hands on deck situation, I think in the passing game.

1115
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 4: But between those two, I mean, Parker Washington's playing the

1116
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 4: role of Christian Kirk in the playoff team a couple

1117
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 4: of years ago, like the go to guy slot receiver

1118
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 4: catch and run gets your ten when you need third

1119
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 4: and eight. And he's been really, really reliable so far

1120
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 4: for this team, and he's he's good in the power

1121
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:40,439
Speaker 4: return game too.

1122
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: Clearly, the again, JP Shadwick is our guest joining us

1123
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: from Jacksonville the real intriguing thing, and Jacksonville might be

1124
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: in this mix, JP, I mean, in terms of the

1125
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: answer of what I'm about to ask you, this year

1126
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: to me seems like almost more so than any of

1127
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: recent ILK. And this is the NFL by design, It

1128
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: is the hardest to answer this question, but I want

1129
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: your thought, who's the best team in the NFL.

1130
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 4: The best team in the NFL? Uh kind of teams

1131
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 4: are coming up and down? I was I would have

1132
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 4: said the Rams. I think, you know, they've got the

1133
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 4: veteran quarterback, They've got a really good defense and pass rushers,

1134
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 4: and they're really playing some good.

1135
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 5: Football right now.

1136
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 4: You know, the running game of Buffalo is great and

1137
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 4: he you know, they may not have the wins and

1138
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 4: lost totals right that everybody's looking for right now, but

1139
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 4: you don't want to see them in January. I got

1140
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 4: news for you, because they've got some guys who can

1141
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 4: bring it. But I think, yeah, I mean, it's it's

1142
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 4: tough because the Rams have fallen off just a little bit.

1143
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 4: They have blown it. They blew out the Jags in London,

1144
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 4: so that's kind of fresh in my mind right now.

1145
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 4: So I guess I'm probably answering your question. More is

1146
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 4: like teams I don't want to see in the postseason.

1147
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 4: But if you're seeing the Rams in the postseason, that

1148
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 4: means in the super Bowl, So that'd be fine too.

1149
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 2: Okay.

1150
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: I always ask this question, you ready, Yeah, And it's

1151
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: a little late in the year for this, but yet

1152
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: still this year it feels applicable. Give me the team

1153
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: that JP Shadwick looks at and you see the record

1154
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: and you are aware of the resume and everything about it,

1155
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: you are impressed by, but deep down and you're like,

1156
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: but I still don't know if they're good, and that's

1157
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: selling them short. But I'm still not I just don't know.

1158
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced.

1159
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 4: I saw him last night Denver Broncos. Yes, I mean

1160
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 4: the Jaguars went out there and put a number on them.

1161
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 4: And then last night at Arrowhead, the Chiefs third string

1162
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 4: quarterback had the football in his hands with two minutes

1163
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 4: to go and like, with a chance, and yeah, boat

1164
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 4: Nicks can do some things with his legs. And they've

1165
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 4: done some fine things on offense this year in their

1166
01:03:55,280 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 4: second year with Sean Payton. But boy that I was

1167
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 4: a depleted Chiefs team. They had so many guys injured.

1168
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 4: Two starting corners were out, a bunch of offensive players.

1169
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 4: They're on their fourth tackle I think this year. I mean,

1170
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 4: so they they were really down to the nitty gritty

1171
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 4: and Denver had them stay in the game because they

1172
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 4: had an interception tip ball interception, short field touchdown for

1173
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 4: Kansas City, and then they flipped the field of a

1174
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 4: pump return with the backup pump return, so like that

1175
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,439
Speaker 4: helped Kansas City stay in the game. Their best drive

1176
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 4: of the night for the Chiefs was the final drive

1177
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 4: that they couldn't finish. So I got some questions about

1178
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 4: Denver right now, Okay, I don't know what they are.

1179
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get I totally agree with that. By the way, I'm.

1180
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: Going to give you two teams. I want you to

1181
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 1: tell me which one you would be more eager to buy.

1182
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 1: You ready, Seattle Chicago.

1183
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 4: Seattle's really stout upfront on defense, but then Sam Donald

1184
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 4: might Sam Donald again.

1185
01:04:57,920 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 2: It's gonna say.

1186
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: Do you trust saying and nothing and listen, he's a

1187
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: great story and I'm I don't know him, but I'm

1188
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: happy for the guy because he's But but do you

1189
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 1: trust him late in a game, in a big moment?

1190
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 4: Would you trust him? Or Caleb Williams? You know, I

1191
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 4: don't know. That's tough because they're both you know, unproven.

1192
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: Williams against Green Bay had a pretty big moment. I mean,

1193
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: he put it right where it needed to be. But

1194
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: I'm with you he's young though.

1195
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 4: Right, young guy hasn't been in there yet. You know,

1196
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 4: it's different when you get in the playoffs for the

1197
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 4: first time. How do you handle that? And and you're right,

1198
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 4: that was a great throw at the game, I'm unbelievable

1199
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 4: throw and ketch, So maybe that gives him a little confidence.

1200
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 4: So I guess to answer your question, I'm probably I'd.

1201
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 1: Probably lean towards Chicago. Okay, let me give you one

1202
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: other one. Tell me which one of these one old

1203
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: guard the other?

1204
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 2: Is it? Johnny come lately? You more buy Philly or

1205
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 2: New England.

1206
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 4: Philly's defense man, I mean, they've got dudes, and I

1207
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 4: think when whenever the time comes that they have to

1208
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 4: run the football, they got the horses to do that too.

1209
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 4: So and New England's kind of the same thing. They

1210
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 4: get young quarterback and are they really what they are?

1211
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'd probably trust Philly because they've been

1212
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 4: there and done that before.

1213
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: Fair Hey, JP, can we can I mix in little

1214
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 1: college with you because I know you obviously have some

1215
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: experience in the college game as well.

1216
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 3: Some knowledge, that's sure.

1217
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 1: Okay, I've done some games college football, playoff. I would

1218
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: like the outside observation. Okay, college football playoff in your mind, truly,

1219
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,919
Speaker 1: all things given equal in big moments, the best team

1220
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: in college football is who?

1221
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 5: Oh?

1222
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 4: I think the best team this year is it's Indiana.

1223
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 4: I mean, they've proven it. They went and won the

1224
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 4: Big Ten. They're probably gonna beat Alabama in my opinion,

1225
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 4: and then you just keep on rolling. I mean, they've

1226
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 4: got the quarterback, they've got everything you want for now.

1227
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 4: Is it sustainable for the long run? That's an they're

1228
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 4: arguing all together, considering the portal and the changes and

1229
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 4: the people leaving and all that after this year. But

1230
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,439
Speaker 4: we're not there yet. They haven't even won a title yet,

1231
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 4: So I'd probably say I would have said Ohio State

1232
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 4: until they played head to head and then there you go.

1233
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 4: I don't trust Alabama at all right now?

1234
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, because Indiana and Indiana fans are curious about Alabama.

1235
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 1: We know the pedigree, we know the name recognition, we

1236
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: know Calen de Boor because he was at Indiana. But

1237
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 1: what do you what about Alabama gives you pause when

1238
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 1: it came and maybe you're saying that more about Alabama

1239
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: than you are confidence in Indiana.

1240
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 2: But what is it about Alabama that is susceptible.

1241
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 4: Their run game stinks. They cannot run the football. They've

1242
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 4: tried all year, different running backs, whatever, and it's like

1243
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 4: the worst rushing attack since I was in school here,

1244
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 4: like twenty years ago. I mean, that's just terrible. So

1245
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 4: they can't consistently do that. So if you can affect

1246
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 4: the quarterback with them, if you get in his face

1247
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 4: or disguise things on the back end, he hasn't consistently

1248
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 4: proven Ty Simpson that he can overcome that. So that's

1249
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 4: a problem I think for Alabama because they're gonna have

1250
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 4: the big guys up front, they've got the beef, they

1251
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 4: can do that. On defense, they're you know, that's fine,

1252
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 4: and that they're still kind of that same big enough

1253
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 4: team defensively to kind of hang. They should have lost Auburn.

1254
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 4: I mean, they had the big, long, sustained drive at

1255
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 4: the end to win that game, but they didn't put

1256
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 4: on a show at Jordan Hair, tough place to play

1257
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,600
Speaker 4: no matter what Auburn team walks out there. So I

1258
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 4: had that game and I just I've got some concerns

1259
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 4: because if you can't run the ball when it matters,

1260
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,560
Speaker 4: you get to lean on a quarterback that is inconsistent

1261
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 4: at times.

1262
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: So what we know is this, the Alabama rushing attack

1263
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 1: is very similar to that of the mingling ability with

1264
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 1: the Ladies of India by JP Shadick. Precedent's there. History's there,

1265
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 1: but not not president right now?

1266
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 2: Right, is that what we're getting at?

1267
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 4: It's kind of what it is. Yeah, I mean it

1268
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 4: was there in the past, but that there in the president.

1269
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 2: But that's not to say that there aren't recruiting efforts

1270
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 2: taking place to resurrect it for the future.

1271
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 4: Right, what a couple of before right now?

1272
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 2: All right?

1273
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: Fair enough, Well, well we'll let everybody know to make

1274
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:16,759
Speaker 1: alternate plans for the weekend.

1275
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 4: Right, Good luck with that, I you know, unfortunately you

1276
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 4: might just have to be a little bit later, all.

1277
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 2: Right, JP, I appreciate the time as always. Man, Happy

1278
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 2: holidays to you, all right.

1279
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 4: Always enjoy it man, Merry Christmas, Happy holidays, and enjoy

1280
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 4: the game this Sunday.

1281
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 1: Appreciated JP Shaddick joining us on the Java House Peel

1282
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 1: and poor guest line.

1283
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:39,679
Speaker 2: Really good stuff there, you know. And the college football Playoff.

1284
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: That's interesting about Alabama because and we're going to go

1285
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: down to Alabama here in about thirty five minutes and

1286
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: further that discussion about the Crimson Tide. But the Alabama

1287
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: not being able to run the football, that is something

1288
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: that you, at least in the last since the Nick

1289
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 1: saban Era did not think that you. I mean there

1290
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: was a time there, remember both Scarborough. I mean he

1291
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 1: was like, seemingly.

1292
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:10,759
Speaker 3: I thought he was Derek Henry two point zero.

1293
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 1: Totally agree, and I think he had a leg injury

1294
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 1: actually to be fair to him. But I mean they

1295
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: just it seemed like they just would consistently replug and recycle.

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Speaker 1: Six to two hundred and thirty pound, five percent body fat.

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Speaker 2: Just strong dudes, man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Derrick Henry is I think the world

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01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 1: of Derrick Henry both as a player and by all

1300
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Speaker 1: account everything I've read, you know, as a guy. I mean,

1301
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: he is just that guy just salts games for you.

1302
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 1: But for them to maybe that does make them very

1303
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:49,839
Speaker 1: vulnerable for Indiana because and I know that their passing

1304
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: game again they always have does Alabama historically speaking, at

1305
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 1: least guys in space and and open speed all over

1306
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 1: the field. But it is it's so surreal to me,

1307
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 1: and I realize it's a discredit to the listeners of

1308
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 1: this station. It's a discredit to the friends I grew

1309
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 1: up with that attended Indiana along with myself, and it's

1310
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 1: a it's a discredit to people who are fans of

1311
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 1: college football and Kurt Signetti and everything else. For me

1312
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 1: to admit to and say, it is still surreal to

1313
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 1: me to hear that Indiana would be seen by people

1314
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: as the best team in college football and the best

1315
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 1: program right now in college football. And the JP's right,

1316
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: the transfer portal and all of those things that come

1317
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 1: into play are going to make it difficult for a

1318
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 1: lot of people to sustain, and you can turn things

1319
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: around so quickly. Indiana, though, has positioned themselves. I'm telling

1320
01:11:54,920 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 1: you the Indiana when it comes to the end il

1321
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 1: stuff and collectives and school marketing, money distribution and the

1322
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 1: acquisition of players and all the things that come into it,

1323
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 1: Indiana was ahead of the curve from a lot of

1324
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,719
Speaker 1: schools and they had it locked and loaded and ready

1325
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: to go. They had a plan on how they were

1326
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: going to do this with nil money and the way

1327
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 1: that they could recruit to it and with it and

1328
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 1: everything else. And then Signetti is just on a whole

1329
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:39,600
Speaker 1: different level in terms of preparation. You know, there's just

1330
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 1: I'm not down there. So it's disingenuous to me to

1331
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 1: say like I know for a fact because I've seen

1332
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 1: it firsthand. But I've talked to three different people that

1333
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 1: are as close as you can get to it that say, look,

1334
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:04,600
Speaker 1: it's like savant level of obsessiveness of film study, obsession

1335
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 1: and finding. Literally it's like Indiana, and you can tell

1336
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: it when you watch them play. Every player on that field.

1337
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with where you've been. It

1338
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with where you're going. It has

1339
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 1: everything to do with where you are in this moment,

1340
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 1: and in this moment for this week, you need to know.

1341
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:27,600
Speaker 1: Your job is to watch this square area of the

1342
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 1: field and make sure that you are sealing off this

1343
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: square area. And these are the three guys that are

1344
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:35,679
Speaker 1: going to try to get into that area, and you're

1345
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:37,640
Speaker 1: going to get there before they are. And here's what

1346
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 1: you're going to look for out of their nuances that

1347
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 1: tell you when they're coming into this area and you're

1348
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: going to.

1349
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 2: Steal it off.

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01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 1: That's a simplified way of saying it, but literally, that's

1351
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 1: their approach and it has nothing to do with this guy

1352
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 1: plays we had this many stars, or this guy does this,

1353
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 1: or this guy used to do that, or this guy

1354
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 1: is going to be playing here next year. None of

1355
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 1: that about right now. And the preparation you can see it.

1356
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 1: You can absolutely see the results of it each and

1357
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 1: every week. We're gonna go down to Alabama. In about

1358
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: thirty minutes, we come back back into kind of a

1359
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 1: recap of the holiday and the Colts getting set on

1360
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 1: Sunday for Jacksonville Pacers and Action tonight as well. But

1361
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 1: we'll get back into where the heck Eddie was last

1362
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 1: week next, you know, recap Eddie's week last week in

1363
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 1: just a second here before we do.

1364
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Speaker 2: So. If you're just joining us on the program, where

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01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 2: have you been?

1366
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: LGP sends out thoughts and prayers to me thank you

1367
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 1: over the fact that the Pacers today have waived Garrison Matthews.

1368
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 1: Because when they signed Garrison Matthews to a rest of

1369
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: the year deal, we had on Tony East right as

1370
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 1: that news came out and we discussed it and I

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01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 1: actually brought it up because it was my observation. Also,

1372
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 1: it was the words of Rick Carlisle on this radio

1373
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: station when he as his weekly hit with the fan

1374
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 1: Morning show that they really liked Garrison Matthews and what

1375
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: he could bring to the table. And I did think

1376
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 1: that he was a player that could have been on

1377
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 1: the roster beyond this year when they signed him. And

1378
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean the fact that we talked about

1379
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 1: it for five to ten minutes the day that he

1380
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 1: was signed. In my apologies for talking about the transactions

1381
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 1: of the.

1382
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 2: Pacers, but.

1383
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 1: He I think for someone who has brought in to

1384
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 1: be a designed outside shooter, there just wasn't the consistency

1385
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 1: perhaps from the outside shooting that they were looking for.

1386
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: But that news today coming out that Garrison Matthews has

1387
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 1: been waived, that is because Michael Potter has now been signed.

1388
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 2: They consistently This used to be the case a lot.

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01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 1: I would see this with the Colts, where the last

1390
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 1: roster spot or two would just kind of be like

1391
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 1: a revolving door of players they were bringing in to

1392
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 1: see what they could get, what would stick basically, and

1393
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 1: maybe that's what they're here. James Wiseman also is out

1394
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 1: Michael Potter has been brought in. Garrison Matthews was waived

1395
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 1: and James Wiseman was not signed to another ten day

1396
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 1: contract with his ten day deal expiring. So Eddie, your

1397
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 1: last week we had mentioned it. You did a fabulous

1398
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 1: job on the Indiana State Fairgrounds.

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Speaker 3: Now this was all the Christmas Nights of Lights.

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Speaker 1: And so you were part of the team that was

1401
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 1: assembling and this was fun and kids love this when

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01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 1: you go through the Indiana State Fairgrounds and they do

1403
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 1: a remarkable job. They wanted to put more of the

1404
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 1: kind of secret and subtle elves to look for when

1405
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 1: you drive through, and that was your role.

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01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, that's correct, Jake. And of course I got

1407
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:51,639
Speaker 3: this role because of the Big Head Federation. Correct had

1408
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 3: the big old meeting, you know, at the fairgrounds and

1409
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 3: we were going over. Even though I didn't make the kit,

1410
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:57,639
Speaker 3: I was still helping out with a lighting, like, hey,

1411
01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 3: we need to get this lighting here so that I

1412
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 3: can show up off how big this fella's head is

1413
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 3: and make sure it's the right angle. They were realized

1414
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 3: by that, very impressed and were like, hey, we've got

1415
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:07,679
Speaker 3: the Christmas Nights of Lights coming on you mind helping

1416
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 3: I was like sure, why not?

1417
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 2: So there you go.

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01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 3: I love Christmas, I love Christmas lights, I love the fairgrounds.

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01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 3: Why not help out?

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01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 1: So we did that on Tuesday evening after the Pacer game,

1421
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: so we went to I had a fabulous time at

1422
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 1: the al Emporium on Tuesday with our friends from Zinc

1423
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 1: Distributing and Mick Ultra doing the Mini Hoops challenge at

1424
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 1: ale Emporium. Then I went from there to the Pacer game,

1425
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 1: pacers and bucks and that got away from the Pacers quickly.

1426
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 2: Myles Turner that the.

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01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:52,640
Speaker 1: In terms of the ferocity of fan reaction, it was

1428
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 1: tempered from the first go round, but it was still there.

1429
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 1: But the that was one of those games where ten

1430
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 1: point became fifteen, team point became twenty point pretty quickly

1431
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 1: in terms of the lead, and it got away from them.

1432
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 1: But after that we went and did the State Fairground

1433
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 1: lights and all the credit in the world to the

1434
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 1: folks at the Indiana State Fairgrounds because I've done that

1435
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 1: every year and this was the I thought this was

1436
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 1: the best year I thought they had. They did a

1437
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 1: phenomenal job, and what I like about it is all

1438
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 1: of it is Christmas themed and then the touch of

1439
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 1: Santa at the end is pretty awesome.

1440
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 2: You're welcome, Jake. It was very cool. You said, we

1441
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 2: have breaking news.

1442
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 3: Eddie Shane Steichen meeting with media following practice for the

1443
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 3: Indianapolis Colts. These players have been ruled out for Sunday's

1444
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 3: game against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Center Tanner BORDERLINI recovering from

1445
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 3: a concussion. Drew Ogletree I can't remember the net. I

1446
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 3: think it's the neck injury for dre ogle Tree. I

1447
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:57,480
Speaker 3: could be wrong there. J T Tuey Molilau injured his oblique,

1448
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 3: Anthony Gould with a knee injury. Those players are all out. Sauce,

1449
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 3: Gardner and Bernard Rayman will play. Not sure if there

1450
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 3: will be a pitch count on Sauce in his return.

1451
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 3: And some unfortunate news for DeForest Buckner. He reaggravated that

1452
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 3: neck injury. He needs surgery. Thus his season is over. Okay,

1453
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 3: that's huge.

1454
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I have nothing but t leaves by

1455
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 1: which to make this prediction or this uncomfortable feeling. It

1456
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 1: would not surprise me if DeForest Buckner, who has been

1457
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 1: everything that you have ever wanted since he was acquired here,

1458
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 1: would not surprise me if he just says I'm good.

1459
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 1: Spent a lot of money he was here. They had

1460
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 1: their chance to build something for him and with him

1461
01:19:55,080 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 1: both defensively and as a franchise. He has won a

1462
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 1: playoff game since he came here, and great player and

1463
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:11,680
Speaker 1: great guy, a great leader, all of it. And you

1464
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 1: feel for him, you do, But it would not surprise

1465
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 1: me if that leads to a retirement. Quite frankly, I

1466
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 1: have nothing to base it on him, and make very clear.

1467
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 1: I just I've been around it enough to see when

1468
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 1: players are fighting through something and where it just I

1469
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 1: mean everything from I mean Andrew Locke. I know that

1470
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,799
Speaker 1: people the timing wasn't great, but it's just when injuries

1471
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 1: start to mount and recount, it's just I think psychologically

1472
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 1: it's very difficult.

1473
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Speaker 3: I know it's thirty one and he's thirty two in March.

1474
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's depending on the severity of that injury,

1475
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 1: and you know, coming back from it, it's tough. We

1476
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 1: also did by the way new Field's lights. I do

1477
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 1: that every year Christmas Eve tradition. It was very odd

1478
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 1: this year, Eddie. You tell me if this is the

1479
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:07,599
Speaker 1: case with you, it was odd this year to walk

1480
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 1: through Newfields. It's not unprecedented. We've done it before. I

1481
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 1: don't like cold weather and I don't like snow, but

1482
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 1: it's the thirty to forty five minutes of the year

1483
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 1: that I would almost prefer it because walking through Newfield lights,

1484
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 1: which seemed shorter this year. Anybody else go to the

1485
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 1: Newfield's lights. It seems shorter this year, faster through the

1486
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 1: house and shorter path. Anybody else think that. But and

1487
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: maybe that's just because you're not. I don't know, like

1488
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 1: you're It was like sixty five degrees outside it literally,

1489
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 1: I mean it was like fifty eight degrees or something,

1490
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 1: and that just it just felt odd on Christmas Eve.

1491
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 1: But you mentioned that DeForest Buckner will not be playing

1492
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 1: for the Colts on Sunday. The Forest buck will not

1493
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 1: be playing for the Colts in Houston a week from Sunday.

1494
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 1: His season is complete. He's having surgery, something of which

1495
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 1: he was to me. If you go to Europe to

1496
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 1: do stem cell therapy, then you.

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01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 2: What's that? Is Panama or Panama?

1498
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 1: Excuse me? He went to Europe before, didn't he? Or

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01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 1: was it Panama both times? Panama both times? I think

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01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 1: you're thinking of Andrew luck And I think there was

1501
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 1: the rumor that Manning also had gone to Europe for

1502
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 1: stem cell But either way, you go out of the

1503
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 1: country for stem cell and you know we talked to

1504
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 1: Ralph Reef about this as well. While it is very effective,

1505
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:41,959
Speaker 1: it also.

1506
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 2: Means that you are.

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01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 1: You know, you're going above and beyond what is immediately

1508
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: accessible to you here, meaning there's concern is what I'm

1509
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:55,679
Speaker 1: getting at? And so that therefore you wonder how many

1510
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 1: times mentally speaking a guy goes back to the well

1511
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: of I want to go through all this again. You

1512
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: know that that that is a legitimate and understandable question.

1513
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:11,719
Speaker 1: Another question about who may not be there on Sunday,

1514
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 1: Who may not be there on Sunday, and who may

1515
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 1: be there in their place? I will ask exactly that

1516
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:29,640
Speaker 1: and elaborate with Eddie next. So DeForest Buckner probably a

1517
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 1: bad way of saying it, but in terms of I

1518
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 1: get up again, will he do so? One of the

1519
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 1: better Colts defensive players? Is he one of them that's

1520
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: on He's on the outside of Lugo Soil Stadium.

1521
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:48,560
Speaker 3: Right, I don't know it's Nelson, Kennymore, Jonathan Taylor, Quinnilson

1522
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 3: and Buckner?

1523
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 4: Right? Is it?

1524
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 3: Zire Franklin? See the fourth? I can't remember the fourth?

1525
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 2: Somebody let me know.

1526
01:23:56,320 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 1: Shoot me a text. Three one seven five two three

1527
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 1: ninety two eighty eight. Heck, if you're listening today while

1528
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 1: you're out and about, and if you are, thank you,

1529
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 1: because I know a lot of people are off today.

1530
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 2: Three one seven five two three ninety two eighty eight.

1531
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 1: Let me know A if you're listening and b if

1532
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 1: Buckner is on the outside of Lucasoil Stadium, and then

1533
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 1: if we don't get any text in the next five minutes,

1534
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 1: then we can head home, right, Okaya dismissed. Speaking of that,

1535
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:30,559
Speaker 1: allow me to ask you this. How many people do

1536
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:36,719
Speaker 1: you think if if and I said earlier, yeah, things

1537
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 1: can look differently than you thought and expect in whatever else.

1538
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 1: But there's still you know, there's an NFL game taking place,

1539
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 1: to weather, it's going to be good.

1540
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 2: We're going to be doing a tailgate at Slipper Noodle.

1541
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot to be excited about with it,

1542
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 1: even if the year is quote unquote you know, kind

1543
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 1: of fluster by the wayside. But having said all of that,

1544
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 1: how many do you think won't be there on Sunday

1545
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:05,839
Speaker 1: at Lucas Oil Stadium.

1546
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 2: Are there people that are going to and.

1547
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm talking about if Houston, if Houston goes in tomorrow

1548
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 1: and they beat the Chargers in LA and the Colts

1549
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 1: are bounced. If there is no playoff possibility or implication

1550
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 1: on that game, what's the crowd going to look like

1551
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 1: on Sunday?

1552
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 3: How many kids got tickets as a Christmas gift?

1553
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 2: Boy, that's a great, great call there.

1554
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:34,640
Speaker 3: You know, it's not no offense to Jacksonville. It's not

1555
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 3: like they've got a ton of fans that should be

1556
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 3: swarming downtown adi Napolis.

1557
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 2: Does Jacksonville have fans? Honestly?

1558
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 1: I mean it is the most when Jacksonville got and

1559
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 1: I kind of like it. I think it's cool. I

1560
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 1: mean when the NFL awarded an expansion franchise to Jacksonville,

1561
01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 1: and you know, everybody was super excited about Jacksonville in

1562
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 1: Carolina those first years, well, it was absolutely designed and

1563
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 1: set up for them to absolutely designed and set up

1564
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 1: for them to be successful in the expansion draft. The

1565
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 1: same was true of the Las Vegas Knights the in hockey.

1566
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 1: But Jacksonville, I think the NFL anticipated that it was

1567
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 1: going to be like the next big booming metropolis area.

1568
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 1: It is, by the way, it is, Okay, Yeah, so

1569
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 1: it's DeForest Buckner Jonathan Taylor, Kenny Moore, and Quintin Nelson.

1570
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 1: Is that right, Yes? But Jacksonville in general, So the

1571
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 1: NFL put a team there, then they had the Super

1572
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 1: Bowl there. It is by square mileage, the largest area,

1573
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 1: the largest city in the United States by land size.

1574
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 1: But it's just this spread out multi beach area and

1575
01:26:53,920 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 1: military town. That's cool, But no one's really from there,

1576
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:03,719
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, you don't mean anybody

1577
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 1: that's like, yeah, I'm from Jacksonville. They yeah, I lived

1578
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 1: there because I was in the military, or my company

1579
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 1: moved down there for a while, or in JP's.

1580
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 2: Case, you know, I went to Alabama and then I

1581
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 2: got a job there. That kind of thing.

1582
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 1: Do you ever meet Jaguars fans? And I think this

1583
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 1: is the curse of the Teal, is it not? When

1584
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 1: you when you come into and you get a new

1585
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 1: team and you base your color scheme on what is

1586
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 1: hot at the moment and not traditionally hot, you're in trouble.

1587
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:37,680
Speaker 1: The Pistons went to those maroon and teal terrible uniforms

1588
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 1: for a while. It was awful. The Nuggets went to

1589
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 1: like a maroon Delio for a while there in the

1590
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:44,559
Speaker 1: mid nineties.

1591
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:45,560
Speaker 2: It was awful.

1592
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 1: The Raptors tried to do purple and silver and name

1593
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 1: their team after Jurassic Park. I mean, come on, what

1594
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 1: other teams Eddie used teal in there is like a

1595
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 1: primary color?

1596
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 2: Who am I by? The Marlins tried to do it

1597
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 2: for a while.

1598
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 1: Charlotte, I mean, Charlotte's tried everything, right, What do I say?

1599
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 1: Give me the teams that who are the most historic

1600
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:15,799
Speaker 1: amongst football, Baseball, and basketball in the three major sports.

1601
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 1: Give me, off the top of your head, Eddie Garrison,

1602
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 1: the five most historically great franchises. Franchises that have the

1603
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 1: combination of history, competitiveness, dedication and fan base.

1604
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 3: Well, you're looking at probably for sure, the New York Yankees,

1605
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 3: Okay in the NFL, the Dallas Cowboys okay in the NBA,

1606
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 3: the Boston Celtics in the Los Angeles Lakers, Okay, that

1607
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 3: fifth one. Is there anybody in the NHL that stands out?

1608
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 1: I mean Montreal Canadians, maybe Green Bay Packers, Yeah, the Okay,

1609
01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 1: I mean we got the I guess if you're if

1610
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 1: you're talking about the Boston Red Sox, Okay, the Red Sox,

1611
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 1: that's a good one.

1612
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 2: If you're talking about.

1613
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 3: History Dodgers, Oh my gosh, you Dodgers.

1614
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:09,719
Speaker 1: And then if you're talking about fan base and tradition,

1615
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 1: laden the Cubs would have to be up there, right.

1616
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:12,599
Speaker 3: That would be correct.

1617
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So let me ask you this, New York Yankees,

1618
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, Boston Celtics, Los Angeles Lakers, Green Bay Packers,

1619
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 1: Boston Red Sox, Los Angeles Dodgers, and Chicago Cubs among those,

1620
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 1: how many uniform and color scheme changes have they had

1621
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:33,599
Speaker 1: combined in the last thirty years?

1622
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 3: Not a lot.

1623
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:37,719
Speaker 2: You know why?

1624
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 1: Because teams that are naturally professional and competitive don't need gimmick.

1625
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 1: They don't need gimmick, they don't need to change who

1626
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 1: changes their what teams are most known for changing their

1627
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 1: uniforms like annually, and their color schemes and their marketing.

1628
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 3: Teams that are trying to generate, you know, buzz the excitement.

1629
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 1: The Charlotte Hornets, right, the Sacramento Kings, the.

1630
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:12,600
Speaker 2: I mean, the Jacksonville Jaguars.

1631
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 3: For a while, the Seattle Seahawks, they were changing left.

1632
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 3: The Rams were the same way.

1633
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:21,920
Speaker 1: The Rams, though at least the Rams kept going back

1634
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 1: to the they when the Rams would come up with

1635
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 1: new uniforms.

1636
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 2: They were going back to their old ones. At least

1637
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 2: they were going back to their their history.

1638
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 3: Arizona, the Cardinals just recently changed their uniforms, as did

1639
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 3: the Atlanta Falcons.

1640
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 1: Again, I mean Arizona, they're like, yeah, we went to

1641
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, Like we got red hot with Kurt Warner

1642
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 1: one year. Okay, cool, we had Neil Lomax. People got excited.

1643
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 1: That was washing Lewis. Now Washington has got some history though,

1644
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 1: but again New Washington's a little different because it was

1645
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 1: by necessity right in terms of the change of the

1646
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 1: name and that kind of thing.

1647
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 2: But you get my point.

1648
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 3: And the Utah Jazz are in this category.

1649
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:05,599
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, yes.

1650
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 1: And the funny thing about the jazz, they're the they're

1651
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 1: the interloper to this conversation because the one time that

1652
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 1: they went with the weird like we're gonna go with

1653
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 1: the color trend of purple and silver and green, they

1654
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 1: actually that was the best era they ever had.

1655
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:23,519
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the jazz best.

1656
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 1: Uniforms are the green and gold with the music note

1657
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 1: of yesteryear, the the early John Stockton years and Mark

1658
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 1: Eaton and that group, Like those uniforms were awesome, and

1659
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,720
Speaker 1: then they had they incorporated the Purple. Then they went

1660
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 1: to the mountaintop with the silver and all that, and

1661
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 1: you know, with Malone and and that's when they were

1662
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 1: probably at their best, truth be told. But either way,

1663
01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 1: the Jaguars to me, when it comes to the attendance

1664
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 1: on Sunday, you would think that this would be if

1665
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 1: Houston were to win tomorrow and the Colts are going

1666
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 1: into it eliminated, this would be a game that feels

1667
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 1: like the we're gonna throw The Colts are going to

1668
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 1: have potentially a game on Saturday that looks exactly like

1669
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:15,760
Speaker 1: what the Pacers are doing all year.

1670
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 2: We're just gonna.

1671
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:21,800
Speaker 1: Kind of mask guys going out there and put out

1672
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 1: roster and tinker around. But is there a method to

1673
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 1: the madness on the Pacers side of things? And for

1674
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 1: the Colts would it be if? In fact, and again

1675
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 1: I laid out earlier, I think still playing Philip Rivers

1676
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 1: might be in your best interest.

1677
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:39,799
Speaker 2: If Anthony Richardson's.

1678
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 1: Not healthy, which I don't think is going to be,

1679
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:43,640
Speaker 1: it might be in your best interest to finish it

1680
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 1: out with Philip Rivers playing to see if he is

1681
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 1: a guy that you need to carry you over for

1682
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 1: a few games next year, because you could say Anthony Richardson, Well, Jake,

1683
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 1: you have Anthony Richardson, he's going to be healthy, he's

1684
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 1: gonna be on the roster, I understand.

1685
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:58,720
Speaker 2: But if you've got Richardson starting.

1686
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:00,760
Speaker 3: Are we even sure that he will be on the roster.

1687
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:04,720
Speaker 1: That's under saying very hypothetically here, right, But if Richardson's

1688
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 1: there and you go that route and you know that

1689
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is not going to be ready to take

1690
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:13,559
Speaker 1: over full throttle until say midsip. This is if we're

1691
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:19,600
Speaker 1: resigning Daniel Jones now, right, we meaning the Colts. They

1692
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 1: if Daniel Jones is the guy that ultimately are going

1693
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:25,280
Speaker 1: to hand the keys to, but he needs a couple

1694
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 1: of weeks, it's going to be much It's a much

1695
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:33,360
Speaker 1: smoother and intentional and predisposed transition under Philip Rivers. Then

1696
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 1: if you had Richardson there, If Richardson is the guy

1697
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 1: as the backup for it, and everybody knows he's just

1698
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:42,680
Speaker 1: keeping the seat warm and he wins three games, then

1699
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 1: it becomes pretty like kind of sticky in terms of

1700
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:50,640
Speaker 1: that transition that that can be the each I don't know,

1701
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:54,640
Speaker 1: And so there are a lot of curve balls that

1702
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 1: come into that. But when I was wondering how many

1703
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:01,800
Speaker 1: people were going to be there on Sunday, then it

1704
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:07,559
Speaker 1: factors in the aspect of, well, gee, are there really

1705
01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 1: Jaguars fans that are gonna come up?

1706
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1707
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:15,800
Speaker 1: Are there are there really Jaguar fans that are like,

1708
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:19,240
Speaker 1: let's do it, let's take advantage. We are playing for

1709
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,679
Speaker 1: seating at this point and getting ready for the march.

1710
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 2: Do they have a fan? Maybe they do.

1711
01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 1: This from cheefs fan Steve Jacob listening keeping Indiana gassy,

1712
01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:33,639
Speaker 1: driving around the gas truck filling up the petrol.

1713
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 2: He's keeping Indiana gassy.

1714
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 1: Oh you know he's he's part of that that scam

1715
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 1: I've told you about where they have that truck and

1716
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 1: they claim that there's the premium, the unleaded and then

1717
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 1: the like less than unleaded or whatever, but it all

1718
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:51,960
Speaker 1: comes in the same truck. Yeah, and again they claimed

1719
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 1: that the truck just has these big cardboard dividers in there.

1720
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 2: But I don't buy it.

1721
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 1: I mean talking, Yeah, they got dividers that they put

1722
01:34:57,520 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 1: in there in the truck. I think it's you ever

1723
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 1: see the guy pulls up and it comes out of

1724
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 1: one line. Yeah, I know, yep, allegedly going into three

1725
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 1: different tanks.

1726
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, are we even true there's anything in those tanks?

1727
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 1: But I love Steve, Steve, Brenda and their awesome dog

1728
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 1: Milton the very best. They Brenda and Steve represent the

1729
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:22,439
Speaker 1: best of us, the absolute best of us. All Right,

1730
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:25,479
Speaker 1: Indiana Alabama getting set Rose Bull. We're gonna go down

1731
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:28,679
Speaker 1: to Alabama and we're gonna talk to one of the

1732
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 1: primary coverers of the Crimson Tide and find out what

1733
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti and his group will be facing coming up

1734
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:36,240
Speaker 1: in Pasadena.

1735
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 2: We'll do that conversation next now, Eddie, here's the thing.

1736
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,519
Speaker 1: Indiana and Alabama getting set to tussel in the Rose

1737
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:50,880
Speaker 1: Bowl coming up on New Year's Day. And in terms

1738
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 1: of what Indiana is gonna see, JP Shatdterck is just

1739
01:35:53,439 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 1: talking to us about that. But I actually feel like

1740
01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 1: we should almost do like a make good here. Can

1741
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:02,559
Speaker 1: you look up for me and you let me know

1742
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 1: when we have it, Eddie. The song that I just

1743
01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 1: told you the alternate song to go with for the

1744
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 1: introduction here, okay, And the reason why is because Nick

1745
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 1: Kelly covers Alabama. He's the beat writer for al dot com,

1746
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 1: which is the main Alabama news site. Okay, now, this

1747
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 1: guy went to Missouri, one of the great journalism schools.

1748
01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 2: Right.

1749
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 1: This guy has won multiple awards. He's the Sports Writer

1750
01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:29,519
Speaker 1: of the Year from two years ago in the state

1751
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:33,559
Speaker 1: of Alabama. He's part of the Football Writers' Association. He

1752
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 1: covered the Crimson Tide while he was in Tuscaloosa. He

1753
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 1: won a Rising Star award. This guy is like the

1754
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:46,040
Speaker 1: quite frankly, the Kurt Signetti of writers, and so I

1755
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 1: thought it'd be fun. And every time this guy does

1756
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:51,439
Speaker 1: a hit on radio across the country, that's what he hears,

1757
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 1: A Sweet Home Alabama. So if we played this as

1758
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:57,680
Speaker 1: an intro for him, for example, Okay, you don't have

1759
01:36:57,720 --> 01:36:58,800
Speaker 1: the song I told you there?

1760
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 3: Well, I was dialing up when you were talking to me, Jake.

1761
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:02,880
Speaker 3: I can't listen to two things at once.

1762
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:08,120
Speaker 1: Okay you so there, there's a song from the doors

1763
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:10,760
Speaker 1: called the Alabama Song. And I thought, you know, we

1764
01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:14,720
Speaker 1: should be different than the other radio hits that this

1765
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 1: guy does because he's an investigative reporter. He's won awards.

1766
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 1: That's because he goes beyond the pale and the up

1767
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:26,679
Speaker 1: of the obvious. Right, So I thought bringing him into

1768
01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:29,200
Speaker 1: something other than Sweet Home Alabama we would be the

1769
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:31,280
Speaker 1: professional thing to do and really impress him.

1770
01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:32,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go.

1771
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 1: See now I'd like to know joining us now on

1772
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:39,800
Speaker 1: the Java House Peel and Port guest line, he is

1773
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:41,439
Speaker 1: not on his way to the next whiskey bar, but

1774
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:46,000
Speaker 1: rather to Pasadena. Nick Kelly joining us, Nick, I'll bet

1775
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 1: every time you do a radio hit somewhere they play

1776
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:49,559
Speaker 1: Leonard Skinner to Sweet Home Alabama.

1777
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:49,760
Speaker 5: Right.

1778
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:53,719
Speaker 6: It definitely is a common one, no doubt.

1779
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 7: I mean, you can't go many places in this stay

1780
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 7: without hearing it, especially around brand Any stadium on game days.

1781
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 1: So are you impressed by the fact we played the

1782
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:04,480
Speaker 1: Alabama song by the doors instead of Sweet Home Alabama?

1783
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:05,760
Speaker 2: See?

1784
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:09,320
Speaker 7: I like creativity, so like I like when when I'm

1785
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 7: presented with that, So I respect that. I appreciate it,

1786
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:14,880
Speaker 7: and uh, well done, gold stars all around.

1787
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:16,360
Speaker 2: There we go. That's what.

1788
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, thanks for joining us, Nick, Happy holidays too,

1789
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 1: And I'm just kidding.

1790
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:21,640
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to this.

1791
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:25,360
Speaker 1: This matchup is fascinating because you have you know, Calen

1792
01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:27,240
Speaker 1: de Boor, who obviously at one time was on staff

1793
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:29,439
Speaker 1: in Indiana. You've got Kurt Signetti who was at one

1794
01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 1: time on staff at Alabama. How much is that from

1795
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 1: the Signetti factor? I am curious what is the Alabama

1796
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:44,320
Speaker 1: fan or you know, media perception of Kurt Signetti and

1797
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:47,600
Speaker 1: recollection or feeling of connection to him to Alabama.

1798
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think there's definitely some.

1799
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:53,880
Speaker 7: I think that it's fascinating where I think some people

1800
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:58,000
Speaker 7: forget just how I guess significant that he was or

1801
01:38:58,000 --> 01:38:59,759
Speaker 7: how long he was here for. I think people forget

1802
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:01,920
Speaker 7: that as it was a while ago, but I mean

1803
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:04,080
Speaker 7: he was here for four seasons, right from seven to

1804
01:39:04,120 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 7: twenty ten. So he was an integral part of really

1805
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:09,439
Speaker 7: getting this thing off the ground for the Saban dynasty

1806
01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:11,479
Speaker 7: and then not only getting off the ground, but winning

1807
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 7: and a fascinating dynamic too. Was so he was the

1808
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:19,679
Speaker 7: guy on the sideline that was essentially the conduit for

1809
01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:22,640
Speaker 7: the OC and the press box and the guys on

1810
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:24,840
Speaker 7: the field. So you'd have when it was Jim McElwain

1811
01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:27,439
Speaker 7: when he was there for a couple of seasons, he

1812
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 7: was communicating with Signette. He was on the sideline, and

1813
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:33,160
Speaker 7: then Signette would be the one communicating signals he'd be

1814
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 7: the one talking to players, you know, getting them coached up.

1815
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 7: He'd be the one that if Nick Faban was upset

1816
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 7: about some movie, the offense, if he wanted to talk

1817
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 7: to someone on the sideline, he'd be the guy for that.

1818
01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:44,680
Speaker 7: So he really had a big role. And he had

1819
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:47,800
Speaker 7: a big role in recruiting guys like mark Ingram and

1820
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:50,320
Speaker 7: just you know, coaching up guys like Julio Jones. So

1821
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:54,080
Speaker 7: I think people obviously they when they think of the

1822
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:56,040
Speaker 7: early days, they think of Nick Saban, they think of

1823
01:39:56,439 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 7: the coordinators, But really Kurt Signet was an integral part

1824
01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:01,680
Speaker 7: of that staff, and I think that folks here are

1825
01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 7: proud of what he's done since he was here.

1826
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:07,160
Speaker 1: This is kind of this is going to sound weird

1827
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:11,040
Speaker 1: to ask it this way, because it's one would assume.

1828
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 2: But Alabama's different. It's just different than other places.

1829
01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:19,600
Speaker 1: Did dubor cement himself by getting that win against Oklahoma

1830
01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 1: or was that not even necessary and needed? How stable

1831
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:25,880
Speaker 1: is he as the head coach at Alabama?

1832
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 7: I think it was a massive win, and to your point,

1833
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:32,639
Speaker 7: I do think that it went a long way toward Okay,

1834
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:35,920
Speaker 7: this guy's legitimate, this guy can do some big things

1835
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:38,719
Speaker 7: here because he'd won some big games in the regular season,

1836
01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:43,800
Speaker 7: but in Alabama fair or not, the expectations championships. So

1837
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:46,960
Speaker 7: when you're doing some great things in the regular season,

1838
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:49,800
Speaker 7: that's one thing, But when you're winning big games on

1839
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:51,600
Speaker 7: the road, I mean, that was a tough game to

1840
01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:55,920
Speaker 7: win when you're down seventeen to a good defensive team

1841
01:40:56,000 --> 01:41:00,519
Speaker 7: like that at Oklahoma at their place. I think most

1842
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 7: of us, if we're being honest, wrote off Alabama, and

1843
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 7: kalend Boor kept his guy's steady and he got him

1844
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:08,479
Speaker 7: to a place where they could go win that game

1845
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:10,240
Speaker 7: and not just win it, but I mean they were

1846
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:13,760
Speaker 7: quite dominant in the second half of that game. So yeah,

1847
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 7: I think that that really earned him some of the

1848
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:20,760
Speaker 7: people who are still doubting him, earned that respect for him,

1849
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:23,320
Speaker 7: got them more on board. And I think that no

1850
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:26,960
Speaker 7: matter what happens from here on out, I think it's

1851
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 7: a launching point for year three of Kalen de Boor.

1852
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:34,639
Speaker 1: Okay, Kalen de Boor. At night, he is staring at

1853
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:37,640
Speaker 1: the ceiling and he is worried about what aspect of

1854
01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 1: his football team that still has not been as consistent

1855
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:42,720
Speaker 1: as he'd like.

1856
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:46,200
Speaker 6: That's a good question.

1857
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:51,040
Speaker 7: I would say, I would say the running game just

1858
01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 7: I mean, and that's kind of easy answer because it

1859
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:56,200
Speaker 7: hasn't really been there, And even when as I give

1860
01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:57,800
Speaker 7: you that answer, I'm still kind of like, well, it

1861
01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:00,000
Speaker 7: hasn't been there all years. So like, I don't think

1862
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:01,960
Speaker 7: they're at a point where they're expecting it to be great,

1863
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:05,240
Speaker 7: But I think that them getting that running game to

1864
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:09,280
Speaker 7: a respectable or disserviceable point is something that they need

1865
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:11,639
Speaker 7: to I don't won't say be stressed about, but definitely

1866
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:14,599
Speaker 7: be focusing on because at this point, no, the running

1867
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:16,439
Speaker 7: game is not going to win them the game against

1868
01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:19,840
Speaker 7: Indiana or anyone, but they need some effective running to

1869
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:23,439
Speaker 7: happen just to keep defenses honest against the past. But

1870
01:42:24,040 --> 01:42:25,680
Speaker 7: no doubt they're going to win the game on in

1871
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:27,600
Speaker 7: their passing game. But I guess the other answer I

1872
01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:30,360
Speaker 7: could give you is the offensive line for them, because

1873
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:33,280
Speaker 7: it has been inconsistent, hasn't always been there. They had

1874
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:35,720
Speaker 7: a pretty good game against Oklahoma as the game went on,

1875
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 7: they had some good plays and they played well. But

1876
01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 7: I think that if I'm going to give you maybe

1877
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 7: a more nuanced answer, I'll give you offensive line.

1878
01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:50,120
Speaker 1: When you look at this matchup, okay, and you you know,

1879
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:53,760
Speaker 1: Alabama's Alabama, right, And I'm not gonna lie to you, Nick.

1880
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:58,879
Speaker 1: Even in Indiana, to me, it still seems almost surreal.

1881
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 1: And that's so unfair because they have not one, but

1882
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:04,800
Speaker 1: two of the best wins in the season, does Indiana?

1883
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 2: Indiana has the best resume.

1884
01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:10,320
Speaker 1: Indiana has literally not made mistakes, and when they have,

1885
01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:14,000
Speaker 1: they've been able to immediately overcome them. Okay, what is

1886
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:17,599
Speaker 1: the perception what is the vibe you feel from within

1887
01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:20,759
Speaker 1: Alabama about Indiana and this team?

1888
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:27,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's interesting because I think last season it was well,

1889
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:30,599
Speaker 7: you know who they played or who they're really beaten, right,

1890
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:32,880
Speaker 7: So I think that there was some people who are

1891
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:36,720
Speaker 7: maybe not buying into the Indiana hype. I think just

1892
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:39,200
Speaker 7: when you talk to people around here, there are definitely

1893
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 7: more people who realize this team's legit. Now this year,

1894
01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:44,160
Speaker 7: I mean, this is a real contender and obviously they're

1895
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 7: the number one seed, but they have good wins too.

1896
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:50,000
Speaker 7: I will say though, just because I think it takes

1897
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 7: so much time to get people to change their opinions

1898
01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 7: of just a brand when they're so far away from

1899
01:43:55,960 --> 01:43:58,799
Speaker 7: it is, I do think there are still some people

1900
01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 7: here who doubt whether Indiana how legitimate their success is.

1901
01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:06,320
Speaker 6: And I'm not one of those people.

1902
01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:08,559
Speaker 7: To be clear, I really do think this is a

1903
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 7: great Indiana team, and I'm believer in Kurt Signetti. But

1904
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:14,200
Speaker 7: I do think that some people are still slow to

1905
01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:17,759
Speaker 7: the idea of Indiana being a dominant power in college football.

1906
01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 7: And I think that's especially the case when you're as

1907
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:22,240
Speaker 7: far removed as some people are here in the South.

1908
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:25,519
Speaker 7: And I just think in general that most people in

1909
01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:27,519
Speaker 7: the South are going to tell you that SEC football,

1910
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 7: in their minds, is better than the Big Ten football.

1911
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:31,240
Speaker 7: So I think that that you have to fight that

1912
01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:34,120
Speaker 7: bias as well. So I think that a lot of

1913
01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:38,320
Speaker 7: people are thinking that, you know, they're maybe not giving

1914
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:39,519
Speaker 7: Indiana the credit they deserve.

1915
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:41,360
Speaker 6: But I'm not one of those people.

1916
01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:46,320
Speaker 1: Just for the record, you know, Nick, it's funny. Nick

1917
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:48,920
Speaker 1: Kelly's my guest, by the way, al dot com. He

1918
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 1: is the beat writer for the University of Alabama football program.

1919
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 1: And it's funny, Nick, because when the whole nil thing happened,

1920
01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:01,040
Speaker 1: the thought was, and especially for people that are fans

1921
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:04,600
Speaker 1: of Indiana, right who'd been just a doormat, Oh, this

1922
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:07,960
Speaker 1: is just going to make the rich get richer. Ohio State, Alabama,

1923
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 1: and Clemson are just going to dominate college football now

1924
01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 1: because everything's just going to funnel towards that. And yet

1925
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 1: it is Indiana, it is Texas Tech and their oil money,

1926
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:19,960
Speaker 1: it is you know, Arizona State a year ago, whatever

1927
01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:22,840
Speaker 1: it might be. It's those programs that really have been

1928
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 1: able to utilize this to lift themselves. Do you think

1929
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 1: this is sustainable for Indiana or for whatever program or

1930
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 1: are we going to see a carousel of teams have

1931
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:40,040
Speaker 1: a three year window and then boom, somebody else becomes

1932
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:42,920
Speaker 1: the hot, big thing because you can't keep dipping into

1933
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:44,479
Speaker 1: the same financial well, et cetera.

1934
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:48,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't mean to give you a fence straddling

1935
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:51,080
Speaker 7: answer here, but I think it's kind of we'll see.

1936
01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 7: I do think it depends on what you define as sustainable.

1937
01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:56,320
Speaker 7: Does it mean that you are going to have the

1938
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:59,760
Speaker 7: same success every year? Probably not, because they're just so

1939
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:03,680
Speaker 7: much parody now. Like the parody that is going on

1940
01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:07,479
Speaker 7: in college football is fun. I mean, I think it

1941
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:09,120
Speaker 7: really is fun if you're a fan of the sport,

1942
01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:11,880
Speaker 7: because you're seeing everyone's got more of a chance than

1943
01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 7: ever before. I think that maybe the best way to

1944
01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 7: have this discussion too is look at Vanderbilt. No, they're

1945
01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:18,840
Speaker 7: not in the playoff, but they were darn near in

1946
01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:21,400
Speaker 7: the playoff, and they just had an amazing season and

1947
01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 7: a guy who finished as the runner up right to

1948
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 7: Fernando Mendoz in the Heisman a quarterback. So, like, I

1949
01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 7: think a lot of fans here, you know, set aside

1950
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:33,559
Speaker 7: the Midwest or the SEC you know discussion or the

1951
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:35,640
Speaker 7: Big Ten and all that stuff. Like a lot of

1952
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:37,479
Speaker 7: the people here are still wrapping their heads around the

1953
01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:40,719
Speaker 7: fact that Vanderbilt's a legitimate team now. But what happens

1954
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:42,639
Speaker 7: when Diego Pobby is not there? What do they look

1955
01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:44,479
Speaker 7: like then? So I think that it's kind of wait

1956
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:47,479
Speaker 7: and see mode. But I do think that if you

1957
01:46:47,560 --> 01:46:50,040
Speaker 7: have a good system in place, and if you have

1958
01:46:50,160 --> 01:46:52,120
Speaker 7: a coach who knows how to build a program, like

1959
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:56,080
Speaker 7: Indiana does in kurtse Signetti and like Vanderbilt has in

1960
01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:58,960
Speaker 7: Clark Lee, I mean, I think that is sustainable. And

1961
01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:00,680
Speaker 7: that doesn't mean you're going to go thirteen and oh

1962
01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:02,640
Speaker 7: had you know, then get a first round buying the

1963
01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:04,840
Speaker 7: playoff every year. I don't know about that, but I

1964
01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:06,840
Speaker 7: think They're always going to be competitive in this era

1965
01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:07,559
Speaker 7: of college football.

1966
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:08,479
Speaker 6: That's all you can ask for.

1967
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 2: You know.

1968
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:13,679
Speaker 1: The all I know about this is when without Diego

1969
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 1: Pavia at Vanderbilt, fewer techno parties, right, don't we know that?

1970
01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:19,000
Speaker 2: Isn't that a given?

1971
01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:24,320
Speaker 7: Well, it's probably gonna be less of a villainous kind.

1972
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:25,800
Speaker 2: Of vander no doubt.

1973
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 1: Right, heck of a player, no doubt about that was done.

1974
01:47:29,479 --> 01:47:31,800
Speaker 7: Diego's great, like he made my heis from ballot, but

1975
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:36,120
Speaker 7: he yeah, he definitely You get some opinions about Diego Pavia,

1976
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:36,519
Speaker 7: no doubt.

1977
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:39,840
Speaker 1: What is it about Alabama? Nick Kelly my guest on

1978
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:42,440
Speaker 1: the Java House Peel and poor guest line. What about Alabama?

1979
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 1: Nick has when they have had their their games where

1980
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:49,280
Speaker 1: they just i'll say flat for lack of better term.

1981
01:47:49,360 --> 01:47:51,800
Speaker 1: You see them much more closely than do why right,

1982
01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:55,320
Speaker 1: but you talk about branding. I still think of Alabama

1983
01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 1: in that Nick Saban, the Bryce Young era, just like

1984
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:03,200
Speaker 1: running back after running back, that era of whole different

1985
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:08,240
Speaker 1: level football. They didn't have off games seemingly, then what

1986
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:11,040
Speaker 1: is it about this particular group when they do have

1987
01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:14,040
Speaker 1: the games that are off other teams are doing what

1988
01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:16,240
Speaker 1: to get them off rhythm.

1989
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:20,240
Speaker 7: I would say pressuring ty Simpson. I think that's the

1990
01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 7: biggest thing that if a team wants to succeed, it's

1991
01:48:23,240 --> 01:48:26,080
Speaker 7: much harder for him to run the offense and be

1992
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:30,960
Speaker 7: the very cerebral, precise quarterback he can be when he's

1993
01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:34,800
Speaker 7: under pressure. So that's if if I'm Indiana finally to

1994
01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:36,960
Speaker 7: do that, now he can still make you pay. It's

1995
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:39,200
Speaker 7: not that he just oh, you pressure him, He's done.

1996
01:48:39,240 --> 01:48:42,000
Speaker 7: It's just I think that's the way to succeed. And

1997
01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:44,240
Speaker 7: I think that's especially the case when you factor in

1998
01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:48,439
Speaker 7: the offensive lines and consistent, but also like a lot

1999
01:48:48,439 --> 01:48:50,160
Speaker 7: of times when the offense doesn't work, it's been a

2000
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:55,559
Speaker 7: case of the receivers dropping passes, the just running backs

2001
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:57,679
Speaker 7: not making plays, not reading the hole as well.

2002
01:48:58,280 --> 01:48:58,960
Speaker 6: But I think you.

2003
01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:01,040
Speaker 7: Can't control those things that you're defense as much as

2004
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:02,439
Speaker 7: you can just bringing pressure.

2005
01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:07,599
Speaker 1: Nick this Ty Simpson, who you know at the beginning

2006
01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:08,800
Speaker 1: of the year, I think he was a lot of

2007
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:11,559
Speaker 1: people had him right there in the forefront for the heisman.

2008
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:14,240
Speaker 1: Obviously that goes now to Indiana with Brenanda Mendoza. But

2009
01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:18,280
Speaker 1: give me kind of a scouting report on him in

2010
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:23,919
Speaker 1: terms of areas that make him uncomfortable, or areas where.

2011
01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:26,080
Speaker 2: He is where you can exploit him a little bit.

2012
01:49:28,479 --> 01:49:29,400
Speaker 5: That's a good question.

2013
01:49:29,880 --> 01:49:32,840
Speaker 7: I would say that he's at his best when he's

2014
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:37,240
Speaker 7: sitting back and he can just kind of see the field.

2015
01:49:37,240 --> 01:49:39,080
Speaker 7: I mean, he's really smart, like he really is, and

2016
01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:41,679
Speaker 7: he's the son of a coach. His dad, Jason Simpson,

2017
01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:45,680
Speaker 7: is the coach of University of Tennessee at Martin that

2018
01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:47,519
Speaker 7: is an FCS program that he's had a ton of

2019
01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:50,400
Speaker 7: success there. So he grew up basically learning in a

2020
01:49:50,439 --> 01:49:53,360
Speaker 7: college full program. So Ty's very smart, and he processes

2021
01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 7: things well and he sees things well. So the intermediate

2022
01:49:57,320 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 7: routes he's actually very good at, and the short stuff

2023
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:03,040
Speaker 7: he's pretty good at is well. But again, when he's

2024
01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:06,479
Speaker 7: pressured and he can't see the field as well, or

2025
01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:08,800
Speaker 7: he has guys in his face, like Oklahoma in the

2026
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:11,479
Speaker 7: first game, when he turned the ball over a few times,

2027
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:13,519
Speaker 7: it was because of pressure. He threw his pick six

2028
01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:15,920
Speaker 7: because the guy was a free rusher coming at him.

2029
01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:19,960
Speaker 7: So sometimes, yeah, when teams get pressure and they get

2030
01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 7: in his face, that obviously makes it typical. I think

2031
01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:25,040
Speaker 7: it makes it difficult for most folks, But he definitely

2032
01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:28,280
Speaker 7: isn't as sharp then, and there are times where he

2033
01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:31,280
Speaker 7: might I don't know, if you bring an exotic look

2034
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:33,720
Speaker 7: or have some kind of pressure that the line can't

2035
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:35,439
Speaker 7: pick up and there's a free rusher. Sometimes he's not

2036
01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:37,240
Speaker 7: as good at seeing that and realizing he has to

2037
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:40,560
Speaker 7: get hear the ball quick, so that sometimes is an area.

2038
01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:41,599
Speaker 6: That isn't as strong.

2039
01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:45,519
Speaker 7: The deep ball has been inconsistent too, but he did

2040
01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:48,639
Speaker 7: make some plays in that playoff game where he hit

2041
01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:52,360
Speaker 7: guys on deep passes. So yeah, to me, the biggest

2042
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:54,679
Speaker 7: strength of ty has he sees the field really well.

2043
01:50:55,080 --> 01:50:57,680
Speaker 7: It's hard to bait him into things like he's just

2044
01:50:57,800 --> 01:51:02,559
Speaker 7: very smart, but he also just I mean, he can

2045
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:05,240
Speaker 7: make most of the throws he can he can find

2046
01:51:05,240 --> 01:51:07,600
Speaker 7: guys in the intermediate routes. So I think that was

2047
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:09,880
Speaker 7: one thing that he's really brought to this offense this year,

2048
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:12,599
Speaker 7: is that he can find guys in tight windows.

2049
01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:16,800
Speaker 1: Defensively, you would anticipate that Alabama tries to do what

2050
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:20,360
Speaker 1: against Indiana, and where's an area that can kind of

2051
01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:22,000
Speaker 1: flex their will if you.

2052
01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:27,360
Speaker 7: Will, Oh, gosh, well, Indiana, it's gonna bring a lot

2053
01:51:27,360 --> 01:51:29,600
Speaker 7: of problems. So I think that's I don't know what

2054
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:31,920
Speaker 7: kan Walo, the defensive coordinator's plan is going to be,

2055
01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:34,479
Speaker 7: but you know, good luck to him is kind of

2056
01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:38,640
Speaker 7: my thought to me, you have to somehow get to

2057
01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:41,519
Speaker 7: Fernando Mendoza because in a similar deal. And I don't

2058
01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 7: mean to keep giving the same answer, but correct me

2059
01:51:44,120 --> 01:51:46,840
Speaker 7: if I'm wrong, But just to me, frandom Mendoza, if

2060
01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:49,560
Speaker 7: he gets to sit back there and just pass it

2061
01:51:49,680 --> 01:51:51,760
Speaker 7: will and just be comfortable, he's going to pick this

2062
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:55,519
Speaker 7: defensive part. So you have to somehow get pressure on him,

2063
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:57,880
Speaker 7: give him, give him just too much in his face

2064
01:51:57,920 --> 01:52:00,200
Speaker 7: at times to where he's going to have to get

2065
01:52:00,200 --> 01:52:00,680
Speaker 7: the ball out.

2066
01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:02,840
Speaker 6: And so I just think that's my imi.

2067
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:04,840
Speaker 7: Their only path to me, I mean, just because they

2068
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:06,680
Speaker 7: have so many different ways that they can beat you

2069
01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:10,120
Speaker 7: on offense for Indiana, so the guys up front in

2070
01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:12,240
Speaker 7: that front seven would be really important for Alabama. But

2071
01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:15,360
Speaker 7: one thing I will say, this Salabama defense has been

2072
01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:18,120
Speaker 7: strength in the second half of the season. It didn't

2073
01:52:18,120 --> 01:52:20,160
Speaker 7: look like it in the first quarter a quarter and

2074
01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:23,200
Speaker 7: a half against Oklahoma, and they may have some struggles

2075
01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:26,479
Speaker 7: at first, but this album defense is really good at

2076
01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:29,280
Speaker 7: making adjustments and it has been a strength for this

2077
01:52:29,320 --> 01:52:31,360
Speaker 7: group and has been much more consistent than the offense

2078
01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:32,479
Speaker 7: in the second half of the year.

2079
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 1: I find Birmingham to be one of, if not the

2080
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:42,560
Speaker 1: most underrated cities in the United States. In particular, the

2081
01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:45,360
Speaker 1: east side of Birmingham as you head towards, leads in

2082
01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:49,639
Speaker 1: terms of like all local restaurants, very cool, vibe, feels

2083
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:53,639
Speaker 1: like a J Crew catalog, Mountain Brook, beautiful area.

2084
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:56,160
Speaker 2: Your thoughts, Oh.

2085
01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:56,479
Speaker 6: It's great.

2086
01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:59,920
Speaker 7: I live in Birmingham and so I'm actually from Minnesota.

2087
01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:04,400
Speaker 7: I'm a Midwest Big ten person at heart, so I've

2088
01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:07,280
Speaker 7: lived down here about five years now. But the food

2089
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:08,840
Speaker 7: scene in Birmingham is underrated.

2090
01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:09,599
Speaker 6: It's very good.

2091
01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:12,799
Speaker 7: I've lived here several years now and I still haven't

2092
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:15,400
Speaker 7: made my way to all the good food spots. So yeah,

2093
01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:17,960
Speaker 7: people ever in Birmingham, check out the food. It's really good.

2094
01:53:18,640 --> 01:53:20,439
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it's a cool city for sure. Now

2095
01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:22,880
Speaker 1: what part of Minneapolis or Minnesota? Did you grew up

2096
01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:23,600
Speaker 1: in Minneapolis?

2097
01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:25,040
Speaker 2: I get it.

2098
01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:27,080
Speaker 6: I grew up in a suburb of Minneapolis.

2099
01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:29,960
Speaker 1: So you're the first poster on your wall when you

2100
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:32,519
Speaker 1: were a kid. Are you too young for Kirby Pucket

2101
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:33,599
Speaker 1: or was it Kevin Garnett.

2102
01:53:35,240 --> 01:53:39,880
Speaker 7: I'm too young for Kirby Potters, but he's a big one.

2103
01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:42,519
Speaker 7: I think his rookie season was the year I was born,

2104
01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:43,280
Speaker 7: I believe.

2105
01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:44,840
Speaker 2: So okay, fair enough.

2106
01:53:46,520 --> 01:53:50,360
Speaker 7: Adrian Peterson, Yeah, I mean he was in his prime

2107
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:52,600
Speaker 7: when I was coming up in school, so he was

2108
01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 7: definitely doing well. I didn't actually grow up a Vikings fandom.

2109
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:59,200
Speaker 7: My dad's family's from western Pennsylvania, so I picked dad's

2110
01:53:59,240 --> 01:53:59,920
Speaker 7: to over moms to.

2111
01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:03,080
Speaker 1: All right, fair enough, So your first poster on the

2112
01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:05,840
Speaker 1: wall was what Ben Roethlisberger.

2113
01:54:06,439 --> 01:54:09,080
Speaker 6: Troy Paul Malu. He was my favorite player growing up.

2114
01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:11,720
Speaker 2: Fair enough, and I listen. Unpopular to say here, Nick,

2115
01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:15,320
Speaker 2: but it was an interception against Peyton Manning in the playoffs,

2116
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:18,160
Speaker 2: but they overturned it. But nonetheless, all right, Nick, I

2117
01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:19,040
Speaker 2: appreciate the time.

2118
01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:19,320
Speaker 3: Man.

2119
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:22,760
Speaker 1: We may try to grab you again, maybe either just

2120
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:24,800
Speaker 1: before or just after. I know you're going to be busy,

2121
01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:27,599
Speaker 1: but certainly Merry Christmas to you, and appreciate the time

2122
01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:29,280
Speaker 1: and the insights about Alabama today.

2123
01:54:30,280 --> 01:54:30,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2124
01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:32,800
Speaker 6: Great chat with you, Mary Christmas. I'm a good rush

2125
01:54:32,480 --> 01:54:33,360
Speaker 6: your weekend.

2126
01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:35,760
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Nick Kelly joining us from ail dot com.

2127
01:54:35,800 --> 01:54:37,080
Speaker 1: I'm telling you Birmingham's cool.

2128
01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:38,600
Speaker 2: Now.

2129
01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:40,280
Speaker 1: I did feel a little bit old there when he

2130
01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:42,000
Speaker 1: said that the year he was born with some Randy

2131
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:45,520
Speaker 1: Moss was a rookie. Randy Moss's rookie year. That Thanksgiving

2132
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:48,080
Speaker 1: night game he had against Dallas.

2133
01:54:48,120 --> 01:54:50,800
Speaker 2: He was unbelievable. That was kind of his coming out.

2134
01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody knew about him because of the Florida State,

2135
01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:56,000
Speaker 1: Notre Dame and then Marshall stuff. But he was so

2136
01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:59,320
Speaker 1: I mean literally, you know, freak right, I mean, a

2137
01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:02,320
Speaker 1: freak athlete and all of it. I just saw that

2138
01:55:02,440 --> 01:55:05,320
Speaker 1: Randy Moss, by the way, rang the bell, meaning that

2139
01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 1: he is complete with his cancer treatments, which is good news, certainly.

2140
01:55:12,240 --> 01:55:15,000
Speaker 1: Eddie's sport. First sports poster on your wall when you

2141
01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:15,960
Speaker 1: were a kid was who.

2142
01:55:17,280 --> 01:55:18,600
Speaker 3: I can't even remember.

2143
01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:25,680
Speaker 1: Again, I'm gonna go, this guy is going to be

2144
01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:30,320
Speaker 1: your two young for this Barry Larkin that was before you, right, Yeah.

2145
01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:33,880
Speaker 3: I didn't really have posters. I was ever to make

2146
01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:35,600
Speaker 3: poster kid slash guy.

2147
01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:36,920
Speaker 2: Did you collect baseball cards?

2148
01:55:37,600 --> 01:55:40,360
Speaker 3: Not really? I didn't collect cards either jerseys.

2149
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:40,960
Speaker 5: No.

2150
01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:42,320
Speaker 2: Did you follow sports?

2151
01:55:42,480 --> 01:55:46,200
Speaker 1: I did your favorite athlete when you were let me

2152
01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:55,760
Speaker 1: guess when you were eight? Sean Casey No Joey Vada, No,

2153
01:55:58,880 --> 01:56:00,160
Speaker 1: am I on the right team?

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01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:02,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure you're on the right teams. Yeah. The

2155
01:56:02,840 --> 01:56:08,760
Speaker 3: Reds all right, hit me with it, Edwin in Cornacione, Okay,

2156
01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:09,360
Speaker 3: fair enough.

2157
01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:12,800
Speaker 1: I mean the name alone was cool, right, Yeah, and

2158
01:56:13,360 --> 01:56:14,880
Speaker 1: you never knew when there was going to be, you know,

2159
01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:16,360
Speaker 1: like some big home run hit.

2160
01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:20,360
Speaker 3: But I also loved Brandon Phillips.

2161
01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:22,839
Speaker 2: That was another one. Yeah, I forgot about Brandon Phillips.

2162
01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:24,360
Speaker 2: That kind of goes with my all.

2163
01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:25,000
Speaker 3: Time favorite RD.

2164
01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:27,240
Speaker 1: Brandon Phillips is kind He was kind of the Kenny

2165
01:56:27,240 --> 01:56:30,600
Speaker 1: Moore of the Reds, right, Yeah, like the guy that

2166
01:56:32,040 --> 01:56:33,680
Speaker 1: you know, was kind of the plucky guy that you

2167
01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:35,320
Speaker 1: didn't think much of it when he was acquired and

2168
01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:36,840
Speaker 1: then his time went on, You're like, man, this guy's

2169
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:37,720
Speaker 1: really a good player.

2170
01:56:37,840 --> 01:56:40,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. And he always had like flashy plays.

2171
01:56:40,800 --> 01:56:43,680
Speaker 2: He was definitely flashy. Oh yeah, no question. He's going

2172
01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:45,920
Speaker 2: in the Reds Hall of Fame this year. Did you

2173
01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:47,280
Speaker 2: say we did get ahold of Casey?

2174
01:56:47,440 --> 01:56:47,720
Speaker 3: Yes?

2175
01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:49,760
Speaker 2: What time is that going to take place? Eight minutes?

2176
01:56:50,200 --> 01:56:53,640
Speaker 1: Casey Valier, who is the now He's the director of

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01:56:53,800 --> 01:56:58,960
Speaker 1: Radio Coordination and Broadcast intra band media Relation.

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01:56:58,880 --> 01:56:59,560
Speaker 2: For the Colts.

2179
01:56:59,640 --> 01:57:00,600
Speaker 3: Yes, something like that.

2180
01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:04,120
Speaker 2: He's the Graham Pooba, Is that right?

2181
01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:06,400
Speaker 3: Well, I think Matt is the grand Pooba.

2182
01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:10,640
Speaker 2: I don't know though. Casey's the one coordinating. Yeah, that

2183
01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:14,040
Speaker 2: just goes where Casey tells him to go. Casey coordinates

2184
01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:16,600
Speaker 2: all the radios over there, turns them all and gets

2185
01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:18,600
Speaker 2: them all on the right disal right station, the whole

2186
01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:19,200
Speaker 2: deal right.

2187
01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:22,160
Speaker 1: Speaking of that, By the way, Colt's Happy Hour coming

2188
01:57:22,240 --> 01:57:25,000
Speaker 1: up today at five point thirty. John will be in

2189
01:57:25,120 --> 01:57:28,240
Speaker 1: with us, but coming up for the crossover at three

2190
01:57:28,280 --> 01:57:29,920
Speaker 1: o'clock we'll find out what he's got lined up on

2191
01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:31,640
Speaker 1: his program. He's been in here for a while today.

2192
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:34,640
Speaker 1: I noticed him earlier in the building. Sunday one o'clock.

2193
01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:37,320
Speaker 1: It is the Colts Jags. The pregame getting underway at

2194
01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:41,240
Speaker 1: ten o'clock in the morning, and the ride to kick

2195
01:57:41,240 --> 01:57:44,120
Speaker 1: off at nine am. So a full day of Colts'

2196
01:57:44,480 --> 01:57:47,520
Speaker 1: stuff to talk about coming up on Sunday. Big news

2197
01:57:47,520 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 1: today in terms of who is in and who is out.

2198
01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:54,280
Speaker 1: DeForest Buckner, that's the big story and we're going to

2199
01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:58,360
Speaker 1: get into that with Casey. Shane Steichen announcing today that

2200
01:57:58,400 --> 01:58:01,040
Speaker 1: DeForest Buckner had a setback with his neck and as

2201
01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:04,280
Speaker 1: a result, he will not play for the remainder of

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01:58:04,400 --> 01:58:09,720
Speaker 1: the season for the Colts. Also, the injury report from

2203
01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:13,720
Speaker 1: today those that Tanner Bordolini is not practicing. Correct, Eddy

2204
01:58:14,200 --> 01:58:18,320
Speaker 1: he is out with that concussion. Drew Ogletree did not

2205
01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:21,240
Speaker 1: practice today. Correct, he is out with a neck injury.

2206
01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:23,040
Speaker 1: Anthony Gould dealing.

2207
01:58:22,760 --> 01:58:25,960
Speaker 3: With a flint issue. He's out for Sunday. And JT

2208
01:58:26,560 --> 01:58:31,120
Speaker 3: tooy moolillou to mo allow bleak injury out.

2209
01:58:31,480 --> 01:58:36,080
Speaker 2: JT to toy moo allou to mol alow, Yeah, tooy

2210
01:58:36,160 --> 01:58:36,600
Speaker 2: moo allaow.

2211
01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:40,360
Speaker 1: It's funny that I can do auto racing play by

2212
01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:44,280
Speaker 1: play without blinking with some of the names that I've

2213
01:58:44,280 --> 01:58:46,320
Speaker 1: had to do over the years with that and never

2214
01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:48,440
Speaker 1: trip it up. But when I know going into it

2215
01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:52,560
Speaker 1: that I've got somebody, it trips me up. Yeah, all right,

2216
01:58:52,600 --> 01:58:57,400
Speaker 1: DeForest Buckner out? What's that mean? Casey Valier joins us.

2217
01:58:57,440 --> 01:59:02,720
Speaker 1: We'll discuss next. It's Friday, bottom of the two o'clock hour.

2218
01:59:03,560 --> 01:59:06,160
Speaker 1: Over the course of the sports season, we bring you

2219
01:59:06,240 --> 01:59:08,720
Speaker 1: a Franciscan health feel good good for the Hart Friday,

2220
01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:11,680
Speaker 1: a story of we told you a couple of weeks

2221
01:59:11,680 --> 01:59:15,240
Speaker 1: ago about a volleyball player, one of the best high

2222
01:59:15,240 --> 01:59:19,160
Speaker 1: school players in the state that found herself in a

2223
01:59:19,200 --> 01:59:24,280
Speaker 1: coma with an unexpected illness, bought our way back, got.

2224
01:59:24,040 --> 01:59:25,600
Speaker 2: EYEU into the Sweet sixteen.

2225
01:59:25,640 --> 01:59:29,920
Speaker 1: This year in NCAA Volleyball, we've told stories over the

2226
01:59:29,960 --> 01:59:32,600
Speaker 1: course of the year about those that are getting an

2227
01:59:32,640 --> 01:59:39,240
Speaker 1: opportunity through special Olympics or other such form and stories

2228
01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:41,040
Speaker 1: that make you feel good about the right side of

2229
01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:43,040
Speaker 1: sports or the right side of life. And we're going

2230
01:59:43,120 --> 01:59:44,960
Speaker 1: to continue doing so for next year. I am so

2231
01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:48,280
Speaker 1: happy that Franciscan Health gives me the platform each and

2232
01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:50,640
Speaker 1: every week to do that. You know, last night we

2233
01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:52,680
Speaker 1: went to a movie. I saw that Neil Diamond. It's

2234
01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:56,280
Speaker 1: not a Neil Diamond biopic, but a movie about a

2235
01:59:56,320 --> 01:59:59,880
Speaker 1: couple from Milwaukee based on a true story that overcame

2236
02:00:00,160 --> 02:00:03,400
Speaker 1: lot as part of the Neil Diamond tribute band, and

2237
02:00:06,520 --> 02:00:09,480
Speaker 1: the character no spoiler alert here, but one of the

2238
02:00:09,560 --> 02:00:15,160
Speaker 1: characters in the movie has heart issues. And I actually

2239
02:00:15,160 --> 02:00:16,560
Speaker 1: said to Shannon at one point, I go that this

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02:00:16,640 --> 02:00:18,960
Speaker 1: is really difficult for me to watch, and I've never

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02:00:19,000 --> 02:00:19,720
Speaker 1: felt that way.

2242
02:00:19,840 --> 02:00:20,600
Speaker 2: I don't know why.

2243
02:00:20,760 --> 02:00:25,120
Speaker 1: Last night, maybe because it was Christmas, was it resonated

2244
02:00:25,160 --> 02:00:27,320
Speaker 1: with me so much. But I'm so thankful that Franciscan

2245
02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:29,880
Speaker 1: gives us the opportunity to share with people the fact

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02:00:29,880 --> 02:00:32,480
Speaker 1: that the number one heart program in Indiana in cardiology

2247
02:00:32,520 --> 02:00:35,200
Speaker 1: by health grades, number one in Indiana for interventional coordinary

2248
02:00:35,280 --> 02:00:39,720
Speaker 1: care and major cardiac surgery is Franciscan Health and they

2249
02:00:39,760 --> 02:00:42,000
Speaker 1: do the forty nine dollars heart scan, just forty nine

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02:00:42,040 --> 02:00:44,800
Speaker 1: dollars a forty nine dollars heart scan where you can

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02:00:44,840 --> 02:00:47,520
Speaker 1: pay out a pocket you get a free heart health

2252
02:00:47,600 --> 02:00:50,960
Speaker 1: risk with that. It is non invasive, so simple, and

2253
02:00:51,080 --> 02:00:52,160
Speaker 1: it is making a difference.

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02:00:52,200 --> 02:00:52,480
Speaker 2: Folks.

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02:00:52,520 --> 02:00:55,440
Speaker 1: I'm telling you this effort that we're doing for Franciscan

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02:00:55,840 --> 02:00:58,680
Speaker 1: and what Franciscan is doing for people in terms of

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02:00:58,720 --> 02:01:00,800
Speaker 1: people finding out that they need to get in that

2258
02:01:00,920 --> 02:01:05,960
Speaker 1: system for proper heart health, and it is That is

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02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:08,560
Speaker 1: the feel good story right there. The fact that this year,

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02:01:08,680 --> 02:01:12,640
Speaker 1: this campaign has made a difference, even just for one person,

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02:01:13,240 --> 02:01:15,080
Speaker 1: that is so important to me. And the fact that

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02:01:15,120 --> 02:01:17,400
Speaker 1: we're going to continue it for next year, and we're

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02:01:17,440 --> 02:01:20,120
Speaker 1: also going to next year focus at least once a

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02:01:20,160 --> 02:01:23,720
Speaker 1: month on a story as it relates to women's sports,

2265
02:01:23,800 --> 02:01:28,440
Speaker 1: because women and heart disease also. That is an area

2266
02:01:28,480 --> 02:01:30,560
Speaker 1: that is an increased concern and we want to get

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02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:32,600
Speaker 1: that word out and we're going to do that in

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02:01:32,640 --> 02:01:34,800
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. I do have a pretty cool story

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02:01:35,120 --> 02:01:37,560
Speaker 1: I'll share in just a couple of minutes. But before

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02:01:37,600 --> 02:01:42,640
Speaker 1: I do so, Casey Evalier is the director of radio.

2271
02:01:43,520 --> 02:01:46,800
Speaker 1: I think he's the director of radio placement for the Colts.

2272
02:01:46,800 --> 02:01:48,320
Speaker 1: We'll find out his exact title in just a second.

2273
02:01:48,440 --> 02:01:51,640
Speaker 1: Going to join us, but pre and postgame host, pregame host,

2274
02:01:51,800 --> 02:01:54,720
Speaker 1: an in game host, I mean for the Colts radio network,

2275
02:01:54,760 --> 02:01:56,720
Speaker 1: going to join us just a minute. I wanted to

2276
02:01:56,760 --> 02:02:01,560
Speaker 1: read this right now text message, Hey, DeForest Buckner being

2277
02:02:01,640 --> 02:02:04,040
Speaker 1: out and needing next surgery means what I've said all along,

2278
02:02:04,080 --> 02:02:06,480
Speaker 1: it was a bad trade. You don't trade the thirteenth

2279
02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:08,160
Speaker 1: pick in the draft for a D lineman when you

2280
02:02:08,240 --> 02:02:11,120
Speaker 1: needed a quarterback, a D lineman who will never play

2281
02:02:11,120 --> 02:02:14,360
Speaker 1: a playoff game at Lucas Soil Stadium. That from Paul Callahan.

2282
02:02:15,640 --> 02:02:20,880
Speaker 1: Paul Callahan point that out. And Buckner's been a fabulous player.

2283
02:02:21,280 --> 02:02:24,160
Speaker 1: He's been everything you would want as a teammate. He's

2284
02:02:24,200 --> 02:02:26,640
Speaker 1: been everything you want as a contributor. But the next

2285
02:02:26,840 --> 02:02:31,080
Speaker 1: issue now and Shane Stike and announcing earlier today that

2286
02:02:31,160 --> 02:02:33,600
Speaker 1: he will not return this season.

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02:02:34,400 --> 02:02:35,200
Speaker 2: Casey joins us.

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02:02:35,200 --> 02:02:38,840
Speaker 1: Now, Casey, before we get into the specifics, because I

2289
02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:40,760
Speaker 1: know that you're a man that wears many hats. Now,

2290
02:02:40,760 --> 02:02:42,560
Speaker 1: you don't wear any hats that are as big as eddies,

2291
02:02:42,560 --> 02:02:47,080
Speaker 1: but you wear many hats. Your actual title with the Colts, if.

2292
02:02:46,920 --> 02:02:48,480
Speaker 2: You will, is what I'm going to write this down

2293
02:02:48,480 --> 02:02:49,120
Speaker 2: so I get it right.

2294
02:02:49,720 --> 02:02:52,360
Speaker 5: I am the coordinator of radio production.

2295
02:02:52,760 --> 02:02:54,640
Speaker 2: Okay, coordinator of radio production.

2296
02:02:54,880 --> 02:02:55,080
Speaker 4: Now.

2297
02:02:55,120 --> 02:02:58,160
Speaker 2: The other thing is this, I've heard this, and I

2298
02:02:58,280 --> 02:03:02,360
Speaker 2: try to edgehorn and taught me this, he said, buddy,

2299
02:03:02,480 --> 02:03:04,000
Speaker 2: and he had his arm around me. Buddy.

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02:03:04,440 --> 02:03:06,480
Speaker 1: When you talk to somebody and you hear different ways

2301
02:03:06,520 --> 02:03:09,000
Speaker 1: our last name is pronounced, ask them how they introduced

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02:03:09,040 --> 02:03:12,960
Speaker 1: themselves at parties. So your last name, Casey, because I've

2303
02:03:13,000 --> 02:03:16,400
Speaker 1: heard it two different ways on the Colts radio broadcast,

2304
02:03:16,480 --> 02:03:18,920
Speaker 1: of which you are the coordinator of production. Your last

2305
02:03:18,960 --> 02:03:21,480
Speaker 1: name production when you introduce it at parties.

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02:03:21,840 --> 02:03:28,280
Speaker 2: Valier Valier val Ye, so not Valier Valier Valier.

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02:03:28,440 --> 02:03:31,880
Speaker 5: Now I have gone by numerous different ways, and I

2308
02:03:31,920 --> 02:03:35,120
Speaker 5: am not picky about it because I know that we're

2309
02:03:35,120 --> 02:03:38,120
Speaker 5: all Indiana. We're all Hoosiers at heart, and we say

2310
02:03:38,200 --> 02:03:40,560
Speaker 5: things up strange. And I have family down in southern

2311
02:03:40,640 --> 02:03:43,360
Speaker 5: Indiana who have never been able to say my name right.

2312
02:03:43,440 --> 02:03:45,240
Speaker 5: So I don't care how it is said.

2313
02:03:45,680 --> 02:03:49,400
Speaker 2: But Valier, how do how do your family in southern Indiana?

2314
02:03:49,440 --> 02:03:50,080
Speaker 2: How do they say it?

2315
02:03:50,600 --> 02:03:50,840
Speaker 4: Well?

2316
02:03:50,960 --> 02:03:56,240
Speaker 5: Value is is a common that's a common pronunciation. All

2317
02:03:56,280 --> 02:03:58,280
Speaker 5: your kid with all your kid, you.

2318
02:03:58,240 --> 02:04:03,480
Speaker 1: Know, let's begin with this in terms of the news

2319
02:04:03,520 --> 02:04:06,800
Speaker 1: today from Shanestikeen on to Forrest Buckner. Did he elaborate

2320
02:04:06,840 --> 02:04:13,320
Speaker 1: Shanesteikeen on when this setback may have taken place and furthermore,

2321
02:04:14,320 --> 02:04:17,320
Speaker 1: what it might mean long term for DeForest Buckner?

2322
02:04:17,800 --> 02:04:21,080
Speaker 5: So he didn't elaborate on when. It's essentially, you know,

2323
02:04:21,240 --> 02:04:24,080
Speaker 5: after the game, he was, you know, he was kind

2324
02:04:24,080 --> 02:04:27,360
Speaker 5: of going through, you know, maybe the recap of how

2325
02:04:27,400 --> 02:04:29,400
Speaker 5: he played and talking with some of the docs and

2326
02:04:29,400 --> 02:04:31,720
Speaker 5: that's when they were kind of you know, discovering. So

2327
02:04:31,720 --> 02:04:34,320
Speaker 5: I don't know if there was a specific play or not,

2328
02:04:35,480 --> 02:04:37,520
Speaker 5: but maybe it was just you know, the culmination of

2329
02:04:37,560 --> 02:04:40,120
Speaker 5: after the game the way he felt it didn't it

2330
02:04:40,160 --> 02:04:43,880
Speaker 5: didn't feel right for him. And as far as long

2331
02:04:44,000 --> 02:04:47,520
Speaker 5: term goes, there's really no you know, there's nothing has

2332
02:04:47,560 --> 02:04:51,480
Speaker 5: been said at that point right now, the anticipation is

2333
02:04:51,480 --> 02:04:54,200
Speaker 5: is that he has surgery next week, our procedure done

2334
02:04:54,240 --> 02:04:57,600
Speaker 5: next week, and that ultimately he should be ready to

2335
02:04:57,600 --> 02:04:59,960
Speaker 5: go by by the time the season starts next year.

2336
02:05:00,120 --> 02:05:02,879
Speaker 5: That was, you know, the very early in the stages

2337
02:05:02,920 --> 02:05:04,960
Speaker 5: of all that. So we don't have a whole bunch

2338
02:05:05,000 --> 02:05:07,280
Speaker 5: of you know, concrete information, but that is kind of

2339
02:05:07,280 --> 02:05:10,080
Speaker 5: the way they're approaching this as of right now, is

2340
02:05:10,080 --> 02:05:12,280
Speaker 5: that they'll have a procedure done next week and then

2341
02:05:12,320 --> 02:05:13,880
Speaker 5: he should be ready to go for next year.

2342
02:05:14,240 --> 02:05:14,600
Speaker 2: Casey.

2343
02:05:14,760 --> 02:05:19,880
Speaker 1: In terms of this Sunday, if and I know it's

2344
02:05:19,880 --> 02:05:22,160
Speaker 1: a big if and maybe it's a dangerous thing to

2345
02:05:22,600 --> 02:05:24,840
Speaker 1: talk in ifs and you're an employee, I mean, I

2346
02:05:24,880 --> 02:05:25,440
Speaker 1: don't want to be.

2347
02:05:25,400 --> 02:05:26,360
Speaker 2: In a bad spot here.

2348
02:05:26,400 --> 02:05:29,640
Speaker 1: But if we're if we're discussing this as two fans, okay,

2349
02:05:29,880 --> 02:05:37,920
Speaker 1: or educated fans, if Houston is to win tomorrow, and

2350
02:05:37,960 --> 02:05:40,160
Speaker 1: that means going into the game, that the Colts are

2351
02:05:40,280 --> 02:05:42,640
Speaker 1: aware that it is a game that has no playoff

2352
02:05:42,680 --> 02:05:45,920
Speaker 1: implication for them, right Philip rivers still start.

2353
02:05:46,720 --> 02:05:50,200
Speaker 5: Yes, So that has been discussed you know, this week,

2354
02:05:50,280 --> 02:05:54,240
Speaker 5: and mainly the reason is because you know, you would

2355
02:05:54,240 --> 02:05:57,560
Speaker 5: do a game plan, you prepare, you practice all week

2356
02:05:57,920 --> 02:06:00,600
Speaker 5: with Philip being the guy, and they don't think that

2357
02:06:00,640 --> 02:06:04,480
Speaker 5: would be you know enough, It would be a disservice

2358
02:06:04,560 --> 02:06:07,040
Speaker 5: to Riley Leonard if they were to tell him, because

2359
02:06:07,080 --> 02:06:09,200
Speaker 5: the game I think kicks off tomorrow at four point thirty,

2360
02:06:09,280 --> 02:06:12,840
Speaker 5: so around eight o'clock locally would be when that game

2361
02:06:12,960 --> 02:06:15,760
Speaker 5: is probably over tomorrow night. So to then all of

2362
02:06:15,760 --> 02:06:18,280
Speaker 5: a sudden kind of change what you've done all week

2363
02:06:18,360 --> 02:06:21,120
Speaker 5: your game plan, to say Riley Leonard is going to

2364
02:06:21,160 --> 02:06:23,240
Speaker 5: start on Sunday, I think that's a disservice to Riley

2365
02:06:23,240 --> 02:06:25,520
Speaker 5: and it would put him in a really tough, you

2366
02:06:25,560 --> 02:06:29,400
Speaker 5: know situation. So right now it sounds like, regardless of

2367
02:06:29,480 --> 02:06:32,760
Speaker 5: winter loss with Houston, it will be Philip Rivers on Sunday.

2368
02:06:33,080 --> 02:06:35,400
Speaker 1: And then I guess we will, you know, we'll wait

2369
02:06:35,400 --> 02:06:37,680
Speaker 1: another week to figure out after that. Let me let

2370
02:06:37,680 --> 02:06:40,600
Speaker 1: me here's what I said earlier, Casey, and I want

2371
02:06:40,600 --> 02:06:42,480
Speaker 1: you to tell me if you think I'm literally the

2372
02:06:42,480 --> 02:06:45,560
Speaker 1: only man in Indianapolis that feels this way, right, I

2373
02:06:45,600 --> 02:06:49,000
Speaker 1: mean it might be me and my bloodstained volleyball that

2374
02:06:49,040 --> 02:06:49,800
Speaker 1: I'm talking.

2375
02:06:49,560 --> 02:06:51,879
Speaker 2: To with this, okay, because I'm alone on an island.

2376
02:06:53,520 --> 02:06:56,840
Speaker 1: I have started to think more about this and thought

2377
02:06:56,840 --> 02:07:00,480
Speaker 1: about the fact, and to be fair to Anthony Richardson,

2378
02:07:00,600 --> 02:07:05,760
Speaker 1: I will say, from a health standpoint, if Richardson, but

2379
02:07:06,760 --> 02:07:09,200
Speaker 1: when I really look at next year, I believe their

2380
02:07:09,240 --> 02:07:12,280
Speaker 1: best option at quarterback next year is going to be

2381
02:07:13,360 --> 02:07:16,640
Speaker 1: to re sign on probably a two year deal Daniel Jones,

2382
02:07:16,760 --> 02:07:19,800
Speaker 1: partially because that's going to be less expensive than it

2383
02:07:20,000 --> 02:07:23,480
Speaker 1: was if Jones right now was having continuing a Sam

2384
02:07:23,560 --> 02:07:26,320
Speaker 1: Darnold type renaissance that he was on his way towards.

2385
02:07:26,880 --> 02:07:30,720
Speaker 1: But if you bring back Daniel Jones next year, you're

2386
02:07:30,760 --> 02:07:34,720
Speaker 1: going to need potentially a cushion for him for the

2387
02:07:34,760 --> 02:07:38,920
Speaker 1: first couple of games until you can just in case,

2388
02:07:39,080 --> 02:07:42,440
Speaker 1: in case that Achilles is not ready to go. I

2389
02:07:42,480 --> 02:07:45,800
Speaker 1: would not rule out the possibility because I saw Philip

2390
02:07:45,840 --> 02:07:48,360
Speaker 1: Rivers saying after the game on the field, how good

2391
02:07:48,360 --> 02:07:51,440
Speaker 1: he felt, how much he enjoyed it, that they bring

2392
02:07:51,560 --> 02:07:55,560
Speaker 1: him back for one year, simply to start the car

2393
02:07:56,000 --> 02:07:58,680
Speaker 1: and keep it warm on the parade and pace slap

2394
02:07:58,720 --> 02:08:02,040
Speaker 1: before Daniel Jones then hot than hop Senate, I want

2395
02:08:02,080 --> 02:08:04,000
Speaker 1: you to tell me if I'm alone on an island

2396
02:08:04,040 --> 02:08:06,880
Speaker 1: with that thought moving forward, you.

2397
02:08:06,800 --> 02:08:11,560
Speaker 5: Know I don't think you're alone. I think as of

2398
02:08:11,680 --> 02:08:14,800
Speaker 5: right now, I think everybody is taking this pretty day

2399
02:08:14,840 --> 02:08:18,480
Speaker 5: by day. But I think there is something to the

2400
02:08:18,520 --> 02:08:22,440
Speaker 5: fact that Philip looked completely different last week than he

2401
02:08:22,440 --> 02:08:24,440
Speaker 5: did in that first week again Seattle. I know they

2402
02:08:24,480 --> 02:08:26,720
Speaker 5: said it's game plan specific and all of that, but

2403
02:08:26,760 --> 02:08:29,560
Speaker 5: I think everybody would agree that he looked a little

2404
02:08:29,560 --> 02:08:32,560
Speaker 5: bit more like the Philip Rivers we had got accustomed

2405
02:08:32,560 --> 02:08:35,360
Speaker 5: to towards the end of his career. And if Philip

2406
02:08:35,440 --> 02:08:37,480
Speaker 5: Rivers is on, you know, is he if he's making

2407
02:08:37,520 --> 02:08:41,200
Speaker 5: statements about how well he feels. I don't know necessarily

2408
02:08:41,240 --> 02:08:45,480
Speaker 5: that you can completely rule that out. I do think

2409
02:08:45,560 --> 02:08:49,760
Speaker 5: that the idea of bringing Daniel Jones back, prior to

2410
02:08:50,040 --> 02:08:53,240
Speaker 5: the even the you know, the fractured fibula that was

2411
02:08:53,280 --> 02:08:56,240
Speaker 5: reported and then you talk about the Achilles injury, I

2412
02:08:56,240 --> 02:08:58,440
Speaker 5: think you know, all around the building that was kind

2413
02:08:58,440 --> 02:09:00,960
Speaker 5: of the thought that Daniel Jones was looking like the

2414
02:09:01,000 --> 02:09:03,160
Speaker 5: guy that you would bring back. And I still think

2415
02:09:03,520 --> 02:09:06,800
Speaker 5: you would definitely entertain that because of everything that you

2416
02:09:06,840 --> 02:09:08,720
Speaker 5: know you're going to be seeing. You don't have the

2417
02:09:08,720 --> 02:09:11,480
Speaker 5: first round picks, you can't you know, necessarily go get

2418
02:09:11,520 --> 02:09:15,240
Speaker 5: your quarterback in the draft that you know is typically

2419
02:09:15,240 --> 02:09:18,160
Speaker 5: taken as a franchise guy. If you look at what

2420
02:09:18,200 --> 02:09:20,480
Speaker 5: the free agency pool is, I don't really know what

2421
02:09:20,520 --> 02:09:22,520
Speaker 5: it looks like, but I know it's not super robust

2422
02:09:22,560 --> 02:09:25,640
Speaker 5: as far as starting quarterbacks go. So Daniel Jones might

2423
02:09:25,720 --> 02:09:29,320
Speaker 5: ultimately be the best option because you've got familiarity with him,

2424
02:09:29,320 --> 02:09:31,120
Speaker 5: he's been in the building. You do want to see

2425
02:09:31,120 --> 02:09:33,160
Speaker 5: how that Achilles is going to you know how long

2426
02:09:33,200 --> 02:09:34,880
Speaker 5: it's going to take for him to get back to

2427
02:09:35,440 --> 02:09:38,440
Speaker 5: at least a semblance of what the offense is going

2428
02:09:38,480 --> 02:09:40,680
Speaker 5: to look like with him there. But I don't know

2429
02:09:40,760 --> 02:09:43,200
Speaker 5: necessarily that you're all on an island by yourself with

2430
02:09:43,240 --> 02:09:46,520
Speaker 5: the Philip Rivers thing, just because of one the relationship

2431
02:09:46,560 --> 02:09:49,840
Speaker 5: he has with Shane Steichen. He knows this offense because

2432
02:09:50,040 --> 02:09:53,000
Speaker 5: he essentially created this offense when he was with the Chargers.

2433
02:09:53,240 --> 02:09:55,760
Speaker 5: So all of that, the learning curve, it's completely out

2434
02:09:55,760 --> 02:09:57,600
Speaker 5: the window. You don't have to worry about any of that.

2435
02:09:58,000 --> 02:10:00,440
Speaker 5: Clearly we're seeing that. I mean last week, I don't

2436
02:10:00,440 --> 02:10:02,600
Speaker 5: know necessarily if he was making checks to the line

2437
02:10:02,640 --> 02:10:04,960
Speaker 5: of scrimmage, but he was sure active at the line

2438
02:10:05,000 --> 02:10:07,640
Speaker 5: of scrimmage looking over the defense and good putting guys

2439
02:10:07,640 --> 02:10:11,040
Speaker 5: in the situations. So he has picked that up pretty quickly.

2440
02:10:11,120 --> 02:10:13,640
Speaker 5: So if the body says he feels right, and it's

2441
02:10:13,720 --> 02:10:16,520
Speaker 5: kind of that stop gap before Daniel Jones is fully

2442
02:10:16,560 --> 02:10:19,480
Speaker 5: able to get back, I don't know necessarily, that's something

2443
02:10:19,480 --> 02:10:20,240
Speaker 5: you don't entertain.

2444
02:10:20,920 --> 02:10:23,600
Speaker 2: Casey Valier is my guest, Did I say Valier? Did

2445
02:10:23,600 --> 02:10:24,240
Speaker 2: I say that correct?

2446
02:10:24,600 --> 02:10:24,760
Speaker 6: Now?

2447
02:10:24,840 --> 02:10:26,160
Speaker 2: Is the L? Do I really?

2448
02:10:26,200 --> 02:10:26,280
Speaker 1: Do?

2449
02:10:26,360 --> 02:10:28,640
Speaker 2: I really hit the L? Is it more Valier or

2450
02:10:28,760 --> 02:10:31,000
Speaker 2: Valier Valie? Yeah?

2451
02:10:31,040 --> 02:10:32,880
Speaker 5: You hit that yell and then and then you hit

2452
02:10:32,880 --> 02:10:34,440
Speaker 5: the ya.

2453
02:10:34,160 --> 02:10:39,520
Speaker 2: The ya, Casey Valier, you know, I mean.

2454
02:10:39,680 --> 02:10:41,720
Speaker 5: So I'm used to telling, you know, some of the

2455
02:10:41,800 --> 02:10:45,440
Speaker 5: voice guys over there at Urban One how to pronounce it,

2456
02:10:45,480 --> 02:10:48,960
Speaker 5: and it's you got to emphasize the ya. So, I mean, honestly,

2457
02:10:48,960 --> 02:10:51,200
Speaker 5: I've never even thought about it the first The first

2458
02:10:51,200 --> 02:10:53,200
Speaker 5: way is you know Vallier, I don't mind that either.

2459
02:10:53,240 --> 02:10:55,160
Speaker 5: So what about this we're adding that to it?

2460
02:10:55,200 --> 02:11:00,480
Speaker 2: How about Casey Casey Valley? How's that's that's the better

2461
02:11:00,560 --> 02:11:01,680
Speaker 2: version of the AA? Right?

2462
02:11:02,840 --> 02:11:04,360
Speaker 5: That would be the better version of the A. I

2463
02:11:04,400 --> 02:11:06,080
Speaker 5: don't know if I like the better version of the A.

2464
02:11:06,200 --> 02:11:07,960
Speaker 2: There, Jake, okay, fair enough?

2465
02:11:09,000 --> 02:11:12,680
Speaker 1: When obviously Colts and Jaggs coming up on Sunday. It

2466
02:11:12,760 --> 02:11:15,040
Speaker 1: is the home finale. It is the penultimate game of

2467
02:11:15,080 --> 02:11:17,520
Speaker 1: the regular season for the Colts. We'll see if that

2468
02:11:17,600 --> 02:11:20,840
Speaker 1: extends beyond that. There's still mathematic possibility of the playoffs

2469
02:11:21,200 --> 02:11:25,240
Speaker 1: that are there. The offensive line Casey you know, now

2470
02:11:25,240 --> 02:11:28,560
Speaker 1: we know Tanner borderlini out. We obviously know that, Braden Smith,

2471
02:11:28,600 --> 02:11:30,160
Speaker 1: you know there have been a number of injuries on

2472
02:11:30,200 --> 02:11:33,640
Speaker 1: the offensive line. I'm curious from your standpoint, as you

2473
02:11:33,720 --> 02:11:36,760
Speaker 1: do pregame stuff, that means that you've got to read

2474
02:11:36,760 --> 02:11:40,280
Speaker 1: off injury report for each and every game, including the opposition.

2475
02:11:40,800 --> 02:11:43,800
Speaker 1: We focus here in Indianapolis on the Colts. From what

2476
02:11:43,880 --> 02:11:46,800
Speaker 1: you can tell, the amount of attrition that say, the

2477
02:11:46,800 --> 02:11:49,959
Speaker 1: Colts have within the depth and or within the trenches

2478
02:11:50,040 --> 02:11:53,160
Speaker 1: and having to go into their depth. Does that seem

2479
02:11:53,240 --> 02:11:56,760
Speaker 1: to be to you the norm when you talk about

2480
02:11:56,760 --> 02:12:00,160
Speaker 1: it from other franchises and the injury report list as

2481
02:12:00,200 --> 02:12:02,040
Speaker 1: you get a chance to look at it from other teams,

2482
02:12:02,440 --> 02:12:05,400
Speaker 1: or is it of concern to Indianapolis more so than

2483
02:12:05,440 --> 02:12:06,240
Speaker 1: you see elsewhere.

2484
02:12:06,720 --> 02:12:09,240
Speaker 5: Well, actually, I would say for the most part, outside

2485
02:12:09,280 --> 02:12:11,120
Speaker 5: of the last couple of weeks, the Colts have been

2486
02:12:11,160 --> 02:12:15,640
Speaker 5: relatively healthy on the offensive line, probably compared to other teams. Now,

2487
02:12:15,920 --> 02:12:18,200
Speaker 5: if you look at what Jacksonville is dealing with this week,

2488
02:12:18,240 --> 02:12:20,640
Speaker 5: they have three offensive linemen who didn't practice this week

2489
02:12:20,680 --> 02:12:22,920
Speaker 5: as well, so they're dealing with their own kind of thing.

2490
02:12:23,000 --> 02:12:25,920
Speaker 5: So I think especially on you know, both sides of

2491
02:12:25,960 --> 02:12:28,240
Speaker 5: the line, typically that's where you're going to see a

2492
02:12:28,240 --> 02:12:31,880
Speaker 5: lot more of those injuries. I think because I mean, Jake,

2493
02:12:31,920 --> 02:12:34,200
Speaker 5: you've seen it. I mean it's it's essentially it's a

2494
02:12:34,200 --> 02:12:36,840
Speaker 5: car crash every time you snap the football between these guys,

2495
02:12:36,880 --> 02:12:38,680
Speaker 5: I mean, here are going right.

2496
02:12:38,720 --> 02:12:42,800
Speaker 8: It's not ant So when you when you think about

2497
02:12:42,840 --> 02:12:45,320
Speaker 8: it from those terms, I think ultimately, you know, with

2498
02:12:45,320 --> 02:12:48,040
Speaker 8: with Bernard Reyman him missing just one game with the

2499
02:12:48,040 --> 02:12:49,960
Speaker 8: elbow injury, we thought it could be worse.

2500
02:12:50,280 --> 02:12:52,040
Speaker 5: So it looks like him getting back that is a

2501
02:12:52,080 --> 02:12:55,720
Speaker 5: positive sign. You mentioned Braden Smith, but outside of Brayden Smith,

2502
02:12:56,120 --> 02:12:59,040
Speaker 5: Mackenzalve has missed one game. Tanner BORDERLINI this will be

2503
02:12:59,120 --> 02:13:01,960
Speaker 5: just his first games. So they really haven't had a

2504
02:13:02,000 --> 02:13:04,840
Speaker 5: whole bunch of injuries this year, which I think is

2505
02:13:04,880 --> 02:13:08,000
Speaker 5: actually different compared to the norm because I think you're

2506
02:13:08,120 --> 02:13:12,120
Speaker 5: used to seeing nine to ten different offensive line starting

2507
02:13:12,160 --> 02:13:15,240
Speaker 5: combinations throughout a given year, and the Colts aren't at

2508
02:13:15,240 --> 02:13:18,240
Speaker 5: that number this year, which is different from years past.

2509
02:13:18,440 --> 02:13:21,960
Speaker 1: Casey, we will be listening for obviously the pregame show

2510
02:13:22,120 --> 02:13:25,320
Speaker 1: as well, Colts Jaggs coming up on Sunday, Colts Happy.

2511
02:13:25,320 --> 02:13:28,760
Speaker 1: How we're getting underway Friday at that's today obviously at

2512
02:13:28,800 --> 02:13:30,760
Speaker 1: five thirty it feels like a Monday, but today at

2513
02:13:30,760 --> 02:13:34,520
Speaker 1: five thirty and then Sunday one o'clock kick pregame ten am,

2514
02:13:35,280 --> 02:13:37,520
Speaker 1: the road to kickoff getting underway at nine o'clock.

2515
02:13:37,520 --> 02:13:39,640
Speaker 2: So all the coverage, Casey appreciated.

2516
02:13:39,160 --> 02:13:42,080
Speaker 5: All right always, Jake, Thanks man, Hi, Casey.

2517
02:13:41,880 --> 02:13:45,480
Speaker 2: Valier joining us here on the Java House Peel and

2518
02:13:45,480 --> 02:13:46,640
Speaker 2: poor guest line. Real quick.

2519
02:13:46,760 --> 02:13:50,280
Speaker 1: I mentioned thank you Eddie since it is a feel good,

2520
02:13:50,280 --> 02:13:52,720
Speaker 1: good for the heart Friday, even though we're towards the

2521
02:13:52,800 --> 02:13:54,400
Speaker 1: end of the year. Here, I did see a very

2522
02:13:54,440 --> 02:13:56,880
Speaker 1: cool story about the fact that this year is the

2523
02:13:56,920 --> 02:14:01,000
Speaker 1: fifty year celebration and anniversary if you will, for Rob

2524
02:14:01,080 --> 02:14:05,800
Speaker 1: Parsons and Diane Parsons and they live in Cardiff, United Kingdom. Jake,

2525
02:14:06,080 --> 02:14:10,360
Speaker 1: why fifty anniversary of what? Fifty year anniversary of what

2526
02:14:11,760 --> 02:14:14,440
Speaker 1: it was? Fifty years ago during the holiday season that

2527
02:14:14,440 --> 02:14:17,680
Speaker 1: they got to knock on the door and Rob opened

2528
02:14:17,680 --> 02:14:21,800
Speaker 1: the door, and standing before him on the porch was

2529
02:14:21,840 --> 02:14:24,080
Speaker 1: a guy named Ronnie that he'd grown up with, and

2530
02:14:24,120 --> 02:14:26,160
Speaker 1: all he was ever told was that Ronnie was just

2531
02:14:26,440 --> 02:14:30,080
Speaker 1: quote a little bit off, a little bit different, talked

2532
02:14:30,120 --> 02:14:33,520
Speaker 1: a little bit different, kind of a shy guy. And

2533
02:14:33,560 --> 02:14:37,880
Speaker 1: he said, Hey, Ronnie, what's going on? And Ronnie said,

2534
02:14:38,800 --> 02:14:43,760
Speaker 1: can I come in? Okay, So they invited him in

2535
02:14:43,800 --> 02:14:46,480
Speaker 1: the house. And when they invited him in the house,

2536
02:14:46,760 --> 02:14:51,480
Speaker 1: Ronnie in his kind of difficult way of expressing himself

2537
02:14:51,480 --> 02:14:54,480
Speaker 1: and communicating because he was autistic, even before we really

2538
02:14:54,560 --> 02:15:00,200
Speaker 1: knew what that diagnosis was. That's the ailment that he

2539
02:15:00,360 --> 02:15:04,040
Speaker 1: was dealt with and or that he was dealt and

2540
02:15:04,160 --> 02:15:08,240
Speaker 1: was dealing with. And at any rate, what they learned

2541
02:15:08,400 --> 02:15:11,400
Speaker 1: is that Ronnie had found himself just through life in

2542
02:15:11,440 --> 02:15:13,760
Speaker 1: a situation where he had kind of been bounced from

2543
02:15:13,760 --> 02:15:16,000
Speaker 1: place to place. And here it was on the holidays,

2544
02:15:16,520 --> 02:15:19,280
Speaker 1: and it was the weather was not great. He was hungry,

2545
02:15:19,760 --> 02:15:21,840
Speaker 1: and he knew that Rob lived there and that they

2546
02:15:21,840 --> 02:15:23,440
Speaker 1: had gone to school together. So he knocked on the

2547
02:15:23,480 --> 02:15:26,920
Speaker 1: door and simply said can I come in? And he

2548
02:15:27,080 --> 02:15:31,160
Speaker 1: just recently passed away, did Ronnie. But Ronnie did so

2549
02:15:32,160 --> 02:15:34,960
Speaker 1: after having come into their house that day, and Rob

2550
02:15:34,960 --> 02:15:39,080
Speaker 1: and Diane never saw him leave because they took him

2551
02:15:39,080 --> 02:15:42,280
Speaker 1: in as a member of their own family for fifty years.

2552
02:15:42,960 --> 02:15:48,040
Speaker 1: He was there when Rob found himself ill and they

2553
02:15:48,040 --> 02:15:50,240
Speaker 1: had young children and Diane needed help around the house.

2554
02:15:50,280 --> 02:15:53,280
Speaker 1: It was Ronnie that stepped in and was helping out

2555
02:15:53,320 --> 02:15:55,760
Speaker 1: and was delivering bottles and was helping with the laundry.

2556
02:15:56,000 --> 02:15:59,080
Speaker 1: And he wasn't able to always communicate verbally, but he

2557
02:15:59,160 --> 02:16:01,760
Speaker 1: communicated to the look in his eyes. And the one

2558
02:16:01,880 --> 02:16:04,360
Speaker 1: thing that he was able to communicate at one point

2559
02:16:04,600 --> 02:16:07,240
Speaker 1: was when they felt like maybe it was time that Ronnie,

2560
02:16:07,280 --> 02:16:10,000
Speaker 1: after having been there for years and helped out with

2561
02:16:10,040 --> 02:16:11,880
Speaker 1: their kids, maybe it was time for Ronnie to be

2562
02:16:11,920 --> 02:16:14,320
Speaker 1: off on his own. And when they went in to

2563
02:16:14,360 --> 02:16:15,880
Speaker 1: talk to him about it, he looked at him and

2564
02:16:15,960 --> 02:16:20,720
Speaker 1: simply said, did I do something wrong? And they said, no,

2565
02:16:20,880 --> 02:16:24,240
Speaker 1: you actually didn't. And that's why when we said, yes,

2566
02:16:24,280 --> 02:16:26,320
Speaker 1: you can come in, we're here to tell you that

2567
02:16:26,400 --> 02:16:28,960
Speaker 1: you can stay in. Even though it had been twenty

2568
02:16:28,960 --> 02:16:32,000
Speaker 1: five years at that point, and Ronnie lived with Robin

2569
02:16:32,040 --> 02:16:35,160
Speaker 1: Diane for fifty years and when he passed away, they

2570
02:16:35,240 --> 02:16:38,760
Speaker 1: realized that what they lost was a part of their family.

2571
02:16:39,360 --> 02:16:42,320
Speaker 1: And that's because at the time when it's most important,

2572
02:16:42,640 --> 02:16:45,840
Speaker 1: they opened their door simply to find who was on

2573
02:16:45,879 --> 02:16:48,600
Speaker 1: the porch, but then ended up opening up their home

2574
02:16:49,280 --> 02:16:52,040
Speaker 1: to somebody who just simply needed a place to come

2575
02:16:52,080 --> 02:16:55,360
Speaker 1: in and wanted to make sure that they hadn't done

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Speaker 1: anything wrong.

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Asking you to let people into your house during the holidays,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that and have them live with you.

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Speaker 1: But when you see somebody that might seem a little

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Speaker 1: bit off, might seem a little bit different, think about

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Speaker 1: the fact that you never know that that person might

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Speaker 1: be wondering if they simply had done something wrong, and

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Speaker 1: maybe it's time to simply tell them, no, you didn't

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Speaker 1: and just do a simple, even the smallest gesture of

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Speaker 1: kindness to let them know that in fact, you didn't

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Speaker 1: do anything wrong, You've been doing it right, and.

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Speaker 2: Reward them for it. John is here. I just saw

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Speaker 2: him walking around.

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Speaker 1: We'll do the crossover brought to you by the good

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Speaker 1: is the website three one seven, three five three twenty

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Speaker 2: Johnny be Good is here. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 2: it is the crossover brought to you by the good

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Speaker 2: guys that love heating an air. John Merry Christmas. Do

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Speaker 2: you have a good holiday? I had a good holiday.

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Speaker 9: I went to terre Hold on Chris actually Bloomfield to

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Speaker 9: Lenton to Sullivan to taro Hold.

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Speaker 2: On Christmas Eve, I saw the Sullivan Jim.

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Speaker 9: How about that nineteen twenty seven awesome gymnasium. I didn't

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Speaker 9: get a chance to get in, but I've been in.

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Speaker 2: I was in it.

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Speaker 9: I think the last time I was in, it was

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Speaker 9: like fifteen degrees below zero outside and the parents had

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Speaker 9: to keep their cars running as we played.

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Speaker 5: Nice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so what's lined up on the big show? We

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Speaker 1: know the DeForest Buckner news.

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Speaker 9: We yeah, we'll do that and we'll see just how

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Speaker 9: much we're going to see a Sauce Gardner. I guess

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Speaker 9: coming up on Sunday, Joeli Erickson joins us at four.

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Speaker 3: Wells is going to be here.

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Speaker 9: I haven't heard from Fish yet. Have you heard from Fish?

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Speaker 9: We'll see about Don coming up a little bit later on.

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Speaker 9: He may be off with the holidays, and I use

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Speaker 9: basketball team off and awaiting the Rose Bowl. But Mike Duraco, ESPN,

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Speaker 9: ESPN dot Com, Bob Lovell, so load it up and

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Speaker 9: off at five thirty. How was your Christmas?

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Speaker 2: It was good.

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Speaker 9: You have a bunch of people you didn't know there, No.

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Speaker 2: That we did that Thanksgiving, not Christmas though, but it

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Speaker 2: was good.

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Speaker 1: And then back in the saddle today knowing that we

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Speaker 1: had the game coming up on Sunday. Slippery Noodle, by

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Speaker 1: the way, I'll be there pregame tailgate on Sunday looking

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Speaker 1: for everybody. Then John is up next, Colts Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: five thirty. We'll hand it over to John and we'll

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Speaker 1: do it next here as we roll along, have a

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Speaker 1: great weekend.

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Speaker 2: See on Sunday, everybody here on the fan.